Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein

Barney Harford, board director at United Airlines; Victor Gustaf Gao of The Carlyle Group; and Thomas Evans, former CAIO at Lucid Motors, join the Boardroom Governance Summit to discuss adaptive governance in an era of AI disruption. They explore how boards can anticipate second- and third-order effects of AI, how private equity approaches value creation and decision-making, the evolving role of the CAIO, cybersecurity, and CEO succession in a changing market.

Sue Siegel, former Chief Innovation Officer of GE and an experienced public company director, joined the Boardroom Governance Summit 2026 in Healdsburg, California, for a discussion on innovation and life sciences. She discusses AI in healthcare, precision medicine, biotech funding, shareholder activism, U.S.-China tensions, corporate venture capital, and how boards can govern innovation in a rapidly changing environment.

Michael Camuñez, CEO and co-founder of Monarch Global Strategies, joins the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss geopolitics, U.S.-Mexico relations, energy, higher education, board diversity, and director independence. He also explains why boards may be facing a “courage recession” and why good governance sometimes requires challenging consensus.

James D. White, experienced CEO, board chair, and director, joins the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss what makes boards work. We cover CEO-chair dynamics, working with founders, board culture and refreshment, lessons from turnarounds and IPOs, director tenure, and how AI is changing the skills boards need.

Leo Strine, Of Counsel at Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz and previously Chief Justice of the Delaware Supreme Court and Chancellor of the Delaware Court of Chancery, joined the Boardroom Governance Summit 2026 in Healdsburg, California, for a fireside chat keynote on August 26, 2026. He discusses AI, Delaware corporate law, public benefit corporations, private markets, corporate responsibility, and why directors should use human intelligence before relying on artificial intelligence.

In the third episode of our Boardroom Governance Summit series, Sabastian Niles, President and Chief Legal Officer at Salesforce, and Jackie Liu, partner at Morrison & Foerster and a board member at CEVA, discuss board leadership at the pace of change. Recorded in Healdsburg, California, on August 27, 2026.

Ryan Nowicki Stewart, co-founder and CEO of Pennant AI, joins the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss how AI is changing proxy voting, shareholder engagement, and institutional investor stewardship. We also discuss proxy advisors, Y Combinator, founder control, the convergence of public and private markets, emerging governance structures at companies like OpenAI and Anthropic, and why human judgment remains critical as investors adopt AI-powered governance tools.

Stavros Gadinis, Professor of Law at UC Berkeley and author of Corporate Ordering: How Corporations Navigate Social Conflict, joins the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss how companies make rules, AI governance at leading companies such as Microsoft, OpenAI and Anthropic, corporate decision-making, monitoring and accountability, the role of the general counsel, and how boards can navigate social and technological conflict.

Yvonne Wassenaar and Alla Whitston discuss how boards can oversee AI, strengthen data and cyber governance, build flexibility into AI architecture, and evaluate workforce, investment, and value-creation tradeoffs as the technology evolves. Recorded at the inaugural Boardroom Governance Summit in Healdsburg, California, on August 27, 2026.

Karen Francis DeGolia and Penny Herscher discuss how boards can approach CEO succession as an ongoing process, develop internal candidates, manage founder and activist dynamics, and rethink leadership needs in an era of AI and rapid change. Recorded at the inaugural Boardroom Governance Summit in Healdsburg, California, on August 27, 2026.

Raffaela Rein, CEO and founder of BoardLens, joins Evan to discuss how AI can help board members prepare better, ask sharper questions, and engage more deeply in strategy. They also explore AI risks, private-market governance, and how AI may change the way boards work.

Marc Huffman, CEO of OnBoard, joins the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss AI in the boardroom, director use of AI, and how AI may change the information gap between management and directors. This episode also marks the launch of the Boardroom Governance YouTube channel.

Shannon Nash, COO and CFO of Vibrant Planet, Partner at Alpha, and board member at NetScout Systems, SoFi Bank, and Lazy Dog Restaurants, joins the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss boards, AI agents, human judgment, cybersecurity, regulated and private company boards, risk resilience, escalation, and how directors can ask better questions about AI governance.

Sandra Gobert, Executive Director of GUBERNA, joins the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss European corporate governance, board education, family firms, control structures, relationship agreements, state ownership, stakeholder governance, board reviews, founder control, Europe’s competitiveness, and why board dynamics matter.

Karen Francis and Penny Herscher return to the Boardroom Governance Podcast for a joint conversation on AI governance, the creation of The Chairs Circle as a peer forum for board and committee chairs, data center politics, CEO succession, founders versus boards, EVs, China’s rise, chips and geopolitics, and boards in a fractured world.

Mayree Clark and Linda Riefler join the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss Leading-Edge Stewardship, board effectiveness, long-term value creation, crisis decision-making, CEO relationships, founder power, private equity boards, underperforming directors, cross-border governance, and what it takes to be a great steward in the boardroom.

Marie Bafus and Wendy Grasso of Fenwick join the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss AI oversight, Caremark duties, mission-critical risk, board minutes, AI washing, disclosure, confidentiality, privilege, AI usage policies, and how boards can use AI responsibly.

Terry Johnson, partner at WilmerHale and Co-Chair of the firm’s Sports & Gaming Practice, returns to discuss sports governance, gaming, family businesses, and family offices, including the sports investment boom, league ownership models, betting and integrity, women’s sports, and college sports revenue sharing.

Keith Giarman, Managing Partner of the Private Equity Practice at DHR Global, and Tony Abate, experienced board chair, director, investor, and operating executive, join the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss private equity boards, turnaround governance, board effectiveness, board agendas, AI and board talent, underestimated governance risks, and the difference between founder-led and board-led companies.

Throughout her twenty years as a corporate director, Emily Liggett has served on 18 public, private and non-profit boards. She has served as board chair, chair of Nom/Gov committees and on Audit and Comp committees. She currently serves on the boards of Ultra Clean Technology and Materion Corporation. She also serves as Lecturer at Stanford GSB, where she teaches board leadership. We discuss board matters, CEO mistakes, AI governance, innovation, oversight, and teaching the next generation of governance leaders.

Greg Gretsch, Founding Partner and Managing Director of Jackson Square Ventures, returns to the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss the AI supercycle, venture capital, SaaS disruption, startup costs, private markets, IPOs, data centers, regulation, and how boards should think about AI strategy.

Laurie Yoler, venture capital investor at Playground Global, former board member at Tesla and Zoox, and a director or advisor on more than 25 boards across public companies, startups, and nonprofits, joins the Boardroom Governance Podcast to discuss company building, AI governance, private markets, cybersecurity, geopolitics, and courage in the boardroom. She currently serves on the boards of Church & Dwight and the NACD Northern California Chapter.

Marie Oh Huber discusses governance lessons from her leadership roles at eBay and Agilent Technologies, including shareholder activism, CEO and board dynamics, and succession planning. The conversation also explores how boards should navigate AI, geopolitical risk, energy constraints, and the broader challenges of leadership and trust in a rapidly changing business environment.

Eddie Ramos discusses how AI, private markets, and geopolitics are reshaping investing and corporate governance. The conversation explores tokenization, audit committee oversight of AI, and why boards remain under prepared for the pace of technological change.

Steve Lipin, the founder and CEO of Gladstone Place Partners, discusses how corporate governance has evolved through the lens of communications, investor relations, and crisis management. The conversation explores shareholder activism, M&A dynamics, and the growing impact of cybersecurity and AI on boardroom decision-making.

Benjamin Means discusses the unique governance challenges of family-controlled companies, drawing on his book Principles of Family Business Law. The conversation explores shareholder oppression, succession planning, fiduciary duties, and how boards can navigate the overlap between family, ownership, and management.

Eric Ries, author of The Lean Startup and founder of the Long-Term Stock Exchange, joins the podcast to discuss his new book Incorruptible. We explore why so many governance systems fail to support long-term thinking, the concept of "financial gravity," and what genuinely reform-minded governance could look like, from AI governance, public benefit corporations, to "mission-locked constellations."

Professor Benjamin Edwards discusses the rise of Nevada in the reincorporation debate and why more companies are reconsidering Delaware. The conversation explores founder control, litigation risk, SB21, Nevada’s business courts, and what shifting incorporation choices mean for boards and investors.

Joelle Emerson, CEO and co-founder of Paradigm, discusses why company culture should be treated as a core governance issue and how boards should think about leadership, AI-driven workforce change, and the evolving politics of workplace culture.

Former Delaware Chief Justice Leo Strine returns to the podcast for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of corporate law, shifts in Delaware governance, shareholder rights, AI companies, and the ethical responsibilities of directors in a rapidly changing political and technological landscape.

In this milestone Episode 200, Betsy Atkins, one of the most experienced directors in the U.S., shares insights from decades of board service. She has served on more than 38 public company boards and through 17 IPOs, in addition to numerous PE and VC-backed company boards. She currently serves on the boards of Wynn Las Vegas, GoPuff, and the Google Cloud Advisory Board.

Columbia Business School professor Michael Ewens joins the podcast to unpack what data reveals about startup board dynamics, founder power, and investor influence. We also discuss the current exit landscape, IPOs, private equity, and the future role of boards in an AI-driven economy.

Jennifer Ceran is a seasoned finance executive and board member whose career spans treasury leadership, the CFO role, and public and private company board service. Jennifer currently serves on the boards of NerdWallet, Wyze, Riskified, Klaviyo, Flock Safety, and Mesh Payments.

Jeff Epstein discusses why effective boards focus their time on decisions not yet made, drawing on his experience as a former public company CFO, board member at Autodesk, AvePoint, Okta, and Twilio (previously at Kaiser Permanente and Booking Holdings), and operating partner at Bessemer Venture Partners, where he leads Bessemer’s CFO Council and works closely with portfolio company CEOs and CFOs to share best practices.

In this annual year-end episode, Evan Epstein and Joe Grundfest reflect on the major governance and market developments of 2025, from IPOs and AI to Delaware law and executive compensation. They also offer clear-eyed predictions on the trends boards should be watching as they head into 2026.

David Berger is a partner at Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati and the President of the American College of Governance Counsel. We dive into some of the most consequential issues facing directors today, including AI ethics and governance, dual-class share structures, and the emergence of new governance structures in technology companies. We also discuss whether we are in an AI bubble, the shifting dynamics of private markets, Delaware’s governance challenges, and the political forces now shaping boardroom decision-making.

Richard Blake is a partner at Wilson Sonsini and the leader of the firm’s public companies practice. He is one of the lead authors of the 2025 Silicon Valley 150 Corporate Governance Report, an annual study tracking governance trends among leading technology and life sciences companies. We discuss the key findings from the 2025 report, including notable shifts in DEI disclosure, evolving approaches to ESG, and how companies are responding to an increasingly complex state and federal regulatory landscape.

Michelle Leder is the founder and editor-in-chief of footnoted.com, a source for uncovering important information hidden deep in SEC filings, and a longtime voice for transparency and accountability in financial disclosures. Michelle and I dive into how footnoted started, and why scrutinizing SEC filings, especially the rarely-read footnotes and after-hours “Friday Night Dump” disclosures, is relevant for boards, investors, and governance professionals.

Erik Lie is the Amelia Tippie Chair in Finance and Professor at the Tippie College of Business at the University of Iowa. His new book, Catching Cheats: Everyday Forensics to Unmask Business Fraud, offers a compelling look at how forensic economics and data-driven analysis can help identify wrongdoing that remains hidden in plain sight. We talk about a broad range of governance and fraud-related issues, beginning with the challenges of private-market data, the evolving responsibilities of directors in fraud detection, and real-world lessons from the Bernie Madoff case and other historic white-collar scandals.

Sue Siegel is a highly accomplished executive, investor, and board member who has been at the forefront of innovation across life sciences, healthcare, and technology for more than three decades. She currently serves on the boards of Illumina, Align Technology, Nevro, The Engine (built by MIT), and the Kaiser Family Foundation, and has served on more than twenty boards over the course of her career.

Karen Page is a General Partner and Board Partner at B Capital, a global multi-stage venture firm founded by Eduardo Saverin and Raj Ganguly that partners with Boston Consulting Group to help scale high-growth startups. Karen brings decades of experience as an operator, investor, and board member across the technology and venture ecosystem. We discuss her career journey and path into VC. Karen shares insights into her investment focus at B Capital and reflects on how governance has evolved across early- and growth-stage companies.

Joele Frank, the founder and managing partner of her eponymous firm, Joele Frank, is one of the most respected names in strategic communications, having advised companies and boards through some of the most high-profile corporate crises, mergers, and proxy fights of the past three decades. Anne Chapman, managing director at Joele Frank, brings deep expertise in corporate governance and investor engagement, with a focus on advising boards and management teams on complex shareholder matters.

Stephen Bainbridge is the William D. Warren Distinguished Professor of Law at UCLA School of Law. We discuss a range of timely and thought-provoking topics, beginning with his perspective on the evolving discourse around corporate law. We explore the “DExit” phenomenon and the implications of Delaware's SB21. We also discuss and compare the rise of Texas and Nevada as business-friendly incorporation alternatives. We then turn to broader questions about governance in a shifting regulatory and political environment, including the rise of government intervention, the role of PBCs in AI, and a reconsideration of ESG and stakeholder governance in the current climate.

Brad Feld is a veteran venture capital investor, co-founder of Foundry and Techstars, and the co-author of Startup Boards, among many other books. We discuss his personal journey, from his early life and entry into VC during the internet boom, to co-founding Techstars and helping build hundreds of startups and their boards. Brad shares insights from Startup Boards and reflects on the importance of board dynamics, effective composition, and the evolving expectations of independent directors.

In this special episode, I talk with Steven Wolfe Pereira, the founder and CEO of Alpha. We cover a wide range of topics at the intersection of capital markets, AI, and governance. We discuss IPOs, valuations, and the health of today’s markets, as well as the tension between private and public company growth. We also examine the pressures boards and executives face around performance, accountability, and compensation structures.

Teresa Briggs serves on the boards of DocuSign, ServiceNow, Snowflake and Warby Parker. She is a member of the audit committee for each company and is the audit committee chair of ServiceNow, DocuSign, and Warby Parker. After a 37-year career with Deloitte LLP, Teresa retired in 2019. At Deloitte, she was the lead partner for some of the organization’s leading companies, including Apple Inc., and held several leadership positions including Vice Chair―West Region, San Francisco and Silicon Valley managing partner, and served on the board of directors of Deloitte USA LLP. An established thought leader, Teresa created Deloitte’s onBoarding Academy, a board readiness program, and Deloitte’s Women on Boards program which brought together over 100 female corporate directors.

Jonathan Foster is an experienced corporate director, investment banker, and expert witness in corporate litigation, and the author of the new book "On Boards: The Modern Playbook for Corporate Governance." He has served on more than 50 boards, including Fortune 500 companies, private companies and companies involved in restructurings.

Larry Cunningham is the Director of the John L. Weinberg Center for Corporate Governance at the University of Delaware, and a leading scholar, author, and advisor on corporate governance and board matters. We discuss the 25th anniversary of the Weinberg Center, including Larry’s discovery of John Weinberg’s 1948 Princeton thesis, which has inspired a forthcoming book and an October 9 symposium hosted by the Center. Larry reflects on the continued relevance of historical governance debates and how they inform today’s challenges, including Delaware’s evolving position as the nation’s corporate law leader. We also talk about Charlie Munger’s and Warren Buffett’s enduring influence and the future of Berkshire Hathaway.

Tina Rosenfeld is a corporate director, advisor, and educator with deep experience in international governance and strategy. Born in Germany and based in Chile, Tina has worked across Europe and Latin America, serving on boards of family businesses, startups, and publicly traded companies, while also mentoring the next generation of leaders.

Steven Wolfe Pereira founded Alpha to solve a critical problem: most boards are governing AI transformation without the frameworks, intelligence, or peer networks they need to make sound fiduciary decisions. Steven currently serves as an independent board director at the Latino Community Foundation, Save the Children, and Whalar.

Erik Gerding is a partner at Freshfields. He advises clients on securities regulation, financial markets and corporate governance. Until the end of 2024, Erik served as the SEC’s Director of the Division of Corporation Finance.

Jack Lazar has more than 30 years of Silicon Valley experience with a focus on finance and operations. He has served in executive leadership roles at GoPro, Qualcomm, Atheros, NetRatings, Apptitude, and Electronics for Imaging. Jack is currently on the boards of Astera Labs (ALAB), Box (BOX), GlobalFoundries (GFS), and Resideo (REZI). He also consults with a variety of private companies, including Tonal, where he is chair of the board.

Walker Newell and Lenin Lopez are SVPs at Woodruff Sawyer, a national insurance brokerage and consulting firm specializing in management liability and corporate governance. We begin with an overview of Woodruff Sawyer and the importance of D&O insurance, then dive into key governance trends—such as the “Delaware Exit” or “DExit” phenomenon and the growing interest in alternative incorporation states like Texas and Nevada. We also discuss Delaware’s SB21, the IPO and SPAC environment, and emerging developments in securities class action litigation—not only in public companies but increasingly across the private markets as well.

In this special short and solo episode, I reflect on five years of the Boardroom Governance Podcast and Newsletter. I revisit the very first edition launched during the pandemic, share lessons from more than 175 episodes, and mark another milestone from leading the Center for Business Law at UC Law SF and launching the VC-Backed Board Academy (VCBA). I also look ahead to what is next for the governance community, the Boardroom Governance Summit, and invite you to help shape its future.

This special episode was recorded live at the Stanford Graduate School of Business on May 29th, where I moderated a conversation with award-winning journalist and author Karen Hao. Her new book, Empire of AI, offers a gripping inside look at OpenAI and the global race for artificial intelligence supremacy. We discussed the origins and evolution of OpenAI, including its initial nonprofit structure, the influential roles played by Sam Altman and Elon Musk, and the dramatic shift toward a for-profit model. We explored critical governance and control issues, analyzed the controversial concept of AI Empires, and unpacked the boardroom drama surrounding leadership disputes and investor dynamics after Sam Altman’s ouster. Karen shared insights into ethical considerations in AI development, compared AI advancements between the U.S. and China, and discussed the urgent need for thoughtful regulation. Finally, we touched on the powerful roles of community activism and offered recommendations for startups navigating the complex landscape of AI governance. Thanks again to Professor Anat Admati, Tina Mondragon, and my student Celine Lee Vendler from Stanford's Corporations and Society Initiative (CASI) for the invitation, and for letting me post this recording on my podcast series. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can find all the show notes on the website boardroom-governance.com, and please feel free to subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This episode is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Michal Lev-Ram is a veteran journalist with deep ties to Silicon Valley. She shares her perspective on the current tech landscape in the midst of the AI boom. We also explore geopolitics, particularly developments in the Middle East, and the growing politicization of corporate America. Michal and I also discuss the tragic murder of Bob Lee, which she covered in depth in an article for Esquire, and reflect on the balance between creativity and accountability in today’s fast-changing tech environment. If you enjoy this conversation, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing the podcast. You can also support the show by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com.This episode is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Alex Edmans, Professor of Finance at London Business School, is one of the leading voices in corporate finance and responsible business. He’s the author of May Contain Lies and Grow the Pie, and has written extensively on purpose, performance, and the evolving role of business in society. He also advises policymakers, boards, and asset managers around the world. In this episode, we discuss the importance of directors critically evaluating the data and narratives presented to them. Alex explores common cognitive traps—such as confirmation bias and black-and-white thinking—and underscores the value of diverse perspectives and a culture of constructive dissent in boardrooms. If you enjoy this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also support the podcast by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com. This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Rick Horvath is a partner at Dechert LLP based in San Francisco. He focuses his practice on corporate governance matters. We explore recent developments in Delaware law, with particular attention to SB21, which introduces significant changes related to controlling shareholder transactions and stockholder information rights. Rick provides historical context, explains the evolving landscape of corporate governance, and offers insights into how the legislation may impact directors, shareholders, and future governance practices. If you enjoy this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also support the podcast by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com. This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Roy Shapira is a Professor of Law at Reichman University in Israel focused on reputation, regulation, and corporate governance. We explore his recent paper on the European Union's Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive (CS3D) and its implications for U.S. corporate directors, particularly in relation to human rights and environmental obligations. Roy highlights the contrasts between the proactive regulatory environment in Europe and the growing opposition to ESG in the U.S., addressing the legal risks and potential oversight liabilities American directors may face under these new standards. We also examine the impact of recent amendments in Delaware law on inspection rights and the ensuing accountability for directors, alongside geopolitical factors shaping governance strategies. The episode concludes with insights on trends in board composition and the complexities of navigating corporate culture in today's complex environment. If you enjoy this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also support the podcast by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Robin Feldman is a Professor of Law at UC Law San Francisco, where she also serves as Director of the Center for Innovation and founding Director of the newly launched AI Law and Innovation Institute. She is a nationally recognized expert on law and technology, with influential scholarship spanning patents, pharmaceuticals, antitrust, and AI. We discuss the intersection of corporate governance and AI, including the ethical challenges facing boards, how to build trust in AI systems, and the broader implications of AI for society. Robin shares her insights into antitrust concerns arising from AI platforms, the geopolitical race for AI dominance, and how regulatory frameworks—both in the U.S. and globally—are beginning to take shape. We also touch on California’s emerging leadership in AI regulation, the use of AI in financial markets, and what board members need to understand as they navigate this complex and fast-evolving space. If you enjoy this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also support the podcast by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Amy Rojik is managing partner of corporate governance at BDO USA, and director and founder of the BDO Center for Corporate Governance. We discuss current trends in governance, including how boards are adapting to a more dynamic risk environment, the increased polarization over ESG, and other stakeholder matters. We also explore some of the most pressing challenges in CEO succession and compensation, as well as the role of shareholder activism and engagement in shaping board agendas. Looking ahead, Amy shares her thoughts on future governance challenges and the ongoing evolution of board structures to meet them. If you enjoy this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also support the podcast by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com. This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Emily Melton is a co-founder and Managing Partner at Threshold Ventures, a Silicon Valley-based venture capital firm. We discuss her personal and professional journey through venture capital, from her early experiences to the founding of Threshold Ventures. Emily shares insights on the evolution of the venture industry and the mechanics behind successful venture investing. We also dive deep into the dynamics of VC-backed boards, exploring the strategic and oversight roles of investors, founders, and the crucial role of independent directors. We also address the question of diversity within the VC governance landscape. Finally, Emily offers her perspective on navigating the rapidly evolving AI landscape, highlighting both opportunities and governance challenges for boards and management teams alike. If you enjoy this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also support the podcast by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com. This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Joe Hurd is a Silicon Valley-based technology executive and experienced public company director. Joe is an Operating Partner at SOSV, a global venture capital firm, and serves as a non-executive director on the boards of Trustpilot Group, Hays, and Lloyd’s of London. We cover his executive career in both business and government service, and how those experiences have shaped his understanding of technology and business. Joe also shares his experiences navigating board service, including the challenges and opportunities he’s faced in the boardrooms of both UK and US companies. We discuss the evolving dynamics of DEI and ESG in corporate governance and how boards are adapting to increasing political and regulatory pressures. He also offers his perspective on the rise of AI and its impact on business strategy and governance. We explore how boards are evaluating performance, managing employee engagement (particularly in the UK context), and preparing for future challenges in an unpredictable business environment. If you enjoy this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing it on social media. You can also support the podcast by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com. This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Jorge Titinger is the former CEO of SGI and Verigy and a current board member with over 30 years of experience in the high-tech industry, including leadership roles in the semiconductor equipment and computer sectors. We begin with Jorge’s early life and athletic career, exploring how his competitive mindset shaped his leadership style and transition to the corporate boardroom. Our discussion covers board service across different company types, the role of diversity in governance, and the distinctions between coaching and board membership, along with the unique challenges of founder-led companies. We then explore the impact of AI on business, the rise of Public Benefit Corporations, and how these models are influencing corporate purpose. Finally, we discuss the future of work and trust, how organizations can adapt to a changing business environment, and Jorge’s reflections on leadership and governance. If you enjoy this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing it on social media. You can also support the podcast by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com

David Chun is the Founder & CEO of Equilar, a leading provider of executive intelligence solutions for board and executive recruitment, compensation, and governance strategies. We discuss the state of board diversity, the current backlash against DEI and ESG, and evolving board refreshment strategies. Our conversation also explores trends in executive compensation, the rise and fall of SPACs, and governance in private equity-backed companies. Beyond the boardroom, we address the growing influence—and disruption—of Silicon Valley in Washington, D.C., the evolving dynamics of California’s business landscape, and the impact of AI on governance. Finally, we examine the backlash against Delaware, including Elon Musk’s high-profile compensation case at Tesla, and broader geopolitical challenges, particularly those involving China. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, or share it on social media. And don’t forget to stay updated by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Rick Alexander is the CEO of Shareholder Commons, an independent, non-profit organization that addresses social and environmental issues from the perspective of shareholders who diversify their investments to optimize risk and return. He is also a leading expert in public benefit corporations. In this conversation, we explore the rise of PBCs and their growing role in new AI companies, particularly as venture capital pours into AI. We discuss OpenAI’s transition to a PBC, the implications of super majority voting structures, and the ongoing debate between staying private or going public. We also dive into the backlash against ESG initiatives, Delaware’s evolving corporate landscape, and the McRitchie vs. Zuckerberg case, which raises important questions about directors’ fiduciary duties. Throughout, we examine the balance between shareholder profit and broader societal impact, a crucial theme in today’s governance landscape. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, or share it on social media. And don’t forget to stay updated by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com. This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Jonathan Goodman is a vice Chair and member of the board of Deloitte Canada, where he leads the firm’s CEO and Boardroom programs, including Deloitte Canada’s Podium Club for Directors. He is also Global Chair and former global Managing Partner of Monitor Deloitte. Jonathan brings a wealth of experience at the intersection of strategy, governance and CEO leadership. We dive into boardroom strategy and risk management, exploring the top strategic issues boards should focus on in 2025, from geopolitics and technological innovations to disruptions and the evolving future of talent. We also compare governance approaches between private and public companies and examine the critical role of culture in shaping strategy. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

I’m joined by Jeff Thomas, EVP, Chief Revenue Officer, and Global Head of Listings at Nasdaq. This is our second conversation—our first was back in Episode 46 (in October of 2021), where you can hear more about his personal and professional background. If you haven’t heard it yet, I encourage you to check it out. In this episode, we focus on the state of public markets in 2025, making this a great companion to Episode 157 with Tom Callahan, CEO of Nasdaq Private Market, where we covered the state of private markets. I truly appreciate your support of the podcast. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, or share it on social media. You can also stay updated by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Nora Denzel is a distinguished Silicon Valley technology executive with extensive leadership experience. She serves as the Lead Independent Director and Chair of the NomGov Committee at AMD, while also serving on the boards of Gen (NASDAQ: GEN), SUSE S.A., and NACD. In this episode, we dive into key topics shaping technology governance and boardroom leadership, including: 1) Insights from the 2024 NACD Blue Ribbon Commission on Technology Leadership in the Boardroom: Driving Trust and Value, co-chaired by Nora; 2) The evolving role of technology and AI governance in the boardroom; 3) Board composition and the importance of technology expertise; 4) Regulatory risks associated with AI; and 5) The intersection of strategy and technology governance. Thank you for tuning in—I greatly value your support! If you enjoy the podcast, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing it with your network. For more insights and to support this podcast, please subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com. This episode is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Joe Grundfest is the William A. Franke Professor of Law and Business Emeritus at Stanford Law School and Senior Faculty at the Rock Center for Corporate Governance. In this episode, we cover: 1. The Political Landscape of Corporate Governance 2. The SEC's New Agenda – including crypto, regulatory changes, and the future of ESG and DEI 3. The Impact of DOGE on Government Efficiency 4. Delaware’s Corporate Landscape 5. The Rise of AI and New Corporate Structures As is tradition, we also discuss: 1. The biggest winner and loser in business in 2024 2. The biggest business surprise from last year 3. The best and worst corporate governance trends of 2024 4. Key governance trends to watch in 2025 Thank you for tuning in—I deeply appreciate your support of this podcast! If you enjoy the show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing it on social media. You can also contribute by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com.

Ben Joseloff, a partner at Cravath, Swaine & Moore and former White House and U.S. Treasury Department official, served as Lead Counsel for the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). In this episode, we examine how CFIUS safeguards U.S. national security by reviewing foreign investments. We discuss significant CFIUS cases, emerging trends in transaction reviews, and the implications of upcoming regulations on outbound investments and cryptocurrency. Ben emphasizes the need for corporate leaders to align strategies with national security objectives, highlighting how corporate governance and geopolitical considerations increasingly intersect. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

David Berger, a partner at Wilson Sonsini and the President of the American College of Governance Counsel. We dive into the rapidly shifting landscape of corporate governance—from post-election policy changes to the evolving role of AI, corporate purpose, and ESG in shaping boardroom priorities. We examine Delaware’s ongoing legal challenges, explore the current state of the markets, and consider how figures like Elon Musk are influencing government efficiency. We also unpack emerging governance models—especially how public benefit corporations (PBCs) fit into the new wave of AI leaders—along with the latest IPO, and the top governance trends from 2024. Finally, we examine the geopolitical risks reshaping global governance and consider what to watch for in 2025. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

My guest today is Richard Blake, a partner at Wilson Sonsini and the leader of the firm's public companies’ practice. In this episode, we discuss the 2024 Silicon Valley 150 Corporate Governance Report, comparing it to last year’s report, which we covered in Episode 126 from February 2024. We examine how the report has evolved and explore the diversity in governance practices across various tiers of companies. We cover a wide range of topics, from activism to board structures, ESG, and clawback policies of SV150 companies. We also discuss the challenge to Delaware status as the favored corporate home, the role of private ordering in shaping governance, and we explore trends from 2024 and what to watch out for in 2025 If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

My guest today is Tom Callahan, the CEO and Manager of the board of managers of Nasdaq Private Market (NPM), a secondary market trading venue for issuers, brokers, shareholders, and prospective investors of private company stock. In 2021, NPM was spun-off of Nasdaq to become its own, independent company receiving strategic investments from coalition of banks. In our conversation, we discuss his experiences on Wall Street during the 1990s, the impact of the JOBS Act on private markets, and the challenges private companies face regarding governance and liquidity. Tom highlights how NPM is improving data accessibility and efficiency, while also addressing the balance between fostering innovation and ensuring transparency. The conversation concludes with Tom reflecting on the future of private company secondary markets. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute by subscribing to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Drew Shagrin and David Chekroun are the co-founders and co-directors of the Institute of Corporate Governance at ESCP (École Supérieure de Commerce de Paris) Business School. Our conversation explores key contrasts between U.S., French, and broader European corporate governance practices. We discuss stakeholder dynamics, regulatory approaches to ESG, and boardroom diversity. Additionally, we examine distinctive governance features in France, such as the governance of state-owned enterprises (SOEs) and employee representation on boards. We also address the transformative impact of AI on corporate governance and explore innovative models like the Entreprise à Mission and Public Benefit Corporations, highlighting the growing emphasis on balancing profit with social responsibility. Finally, Drew and David offer personal reflections and experiences, providing valuable insights into the ever-evolving landscape of corporate governance. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute and subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Wolfe Tone is the leader of Deloitte Private for the US and globally, and Heather Gates is the national Emerging Growth Company (EGC) business leader for Deloitte, overseeing the firm’s EGC, Private Equity, and Deloitte Private Audit & Assurance teams. We dive into governance practices in privately-held businesses, covering closely held corporations, LLCs, family-owned enterprises, and VC- and PE-backed companies. Additionally, we explore insights from Deloitte’s 2024 Private Company Outlook Survey, the role of independent directors, and the evolving landscape of ESG and cybersecurity. Finally, we discuss the rise of public benefit corporation structures in AI companies, board-driven talent management, and trust as a core tenet of governance. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Valeria Café is the CEO of the Brazilian Institute of Corporate Governance (IBGC), Brazil's foremost organization dedicated to promoting corporate governance excellence. Fresh off my keynote at IBGC’s 25th Annual Summit in São Paulo, Valeria and I explore her inspiring journey, the mission and impact of IBGC, and the key takeaways from the summit. We also unpack the latest governance trends shaping Brazil, including ESG, geopolitics, board dynamics, innovation, anti-corruption, and integrity challenges in the boardroom. Don't miss this insightful conversation on governance from one of Brazil’s most influential leaders. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Barry Lawson Williams is a retired director who has served on the boards of 14 public companies. Since 2012, Barry has dedicated himself to promoting diversity in corporate boardrooms and mentoring Black professionals. Widely regarded as an icon in the Black corporate board community, he has led several impactful board-related projects. Our conversation explores his journey through corporate boards, his significant board-related projects, and his insights on board committee work. We also discuss the origin and evolution of the BCBR Program at Santa Clara University, the impact of California's board diversity laws, and the challenges of navigating the current political landscape. Ultimately, we address what he considers the most pressing issue in corporate governance today: board refreshment.

This episode features Dennis Lanham—the Sr Assistant Dean of Exec Ed and Executive Director of the Silicon Valley Executive Center at Santa Clara University—and BCBR alumni Zain Oke, Vice President at AAA and board member, and Dianna Jones, Director of Legal Compliance at Uber and board member. We dive into the origins, mission, and focus of the Black Corporate Board Readiness (BCBR) program at Santa Clara University, exploring the progress it has made and the challenges Black board directors face in today's corporate climate. Our discussion covers the evolution of board diversity, including the impact of California's SB-826 and AB-979 legislation. We also navigate the complexities of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) and DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) challenges, offering valuable recommendations for executives considering joining corporate boards. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Maggie Wilderotter is a seasoned executive and board member with extensive experience leading both Fortune 500 companies and startups. She currently serves on the boards of Fortinet, Costco, and Sana Biotechnology, and she is the Chairwoman of DocuSign. She has held significant leadership roles, including serving as the CEO of Frontier Communications from 2004 to 2015. Impressively, she has served on 56 corporate boards—36 public and 20 private companies—and acts as a senior advisor to many private equity and venture capital-backed companies and firms. In our discussion, we talk about her remarkable board career, explore the differences between serving on public and private companies, and gain her insights on boardroom leadership. We also address topics like boardroom education, strategic oversight, and the attributes of great directors. Stay tuned for an enlightening conversation with one of the most experienced directors in corporate America. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Peter Gleason is the President and CEO of the National Association of Corporate Directors (NACD). In this podcast, we talk about the results of board practices and oversight surveys conducted by NACD on technology oversight, CEO succession planning, board leadership succession, and board reporting. We also discuss some of NACD’s Blue Ribbon Commission Reports on culture as the foundation (2023), and technology oversight (2024). We then address the upcoming NACD Annual Summit in Washington DC, and navigating geopolitical and increased politicization in the boardroom. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Cedric Bru is CEO of Taulia, a fintech provider of working capital management solutions headquartered in SF, CA. In March of 2022, Taulia became part of SAP. We talk about his management and board journey, from large tech companies to startups, and the exit strategy behind the acquisition of Taulia by SAP. We also dive into boardroom dynamics, the impact of AI in business, geopolitics, and the current economic landscape. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

In this episode, I sit down with Yvonne Wassenaar, a seasoned Silicon Valley C-level executive and board member with experience across public, private equity-backed, and venture-backed companies. She currently serves on the boards of Forrester, Rubrik, Arista Networks, JFrog, Alation, Braze, and InfoBlox. She also serves on the boards of Harvey Mudd College and UCLA Anderson's Easton Technology Management Center. Our conversation dives into her executive career and board journey, explores the dynamics of different types of boards, and tackles the pressing 'stay private vs. go public' debate. We also dive into the AI boom, cybersecurity in an increasingly digital world, the impact of geopolitics, and the evolving landscape of ESG. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Javier Saade is Managing Partner of Impact Master Holdings, Venture Partner at Fenway Summer, Operating Partner at Presidio Investors, Chairman of the Board at GP Funding, Inc., Board Member of VCheck and Global Tech Acquisition Corp. (NASDAQ: GTAC), CNBC Contributor, Executive Fellow at Harvard Business School, and host of the podcast Top of the Game. Our conversation covers a wide range of topics, from capital formation to IPOs, with a focus on the critical role played by capital allocators like venture capitalists and private equity investors. We also explore the current AI boom and its potential bubble, the impact of the Small Business Administration, industrial policies, and the vital importance of board diversity. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

In this episode, I sit down with Carol Hansell, a Senior Partner at Hansell LLP and a member of the Hansell McLaughlin Advisory Group in Canada. With over 30 years of experience, Carol has advised boards, management teams, institutional shareholders, and regulators on legal and governance challenges. We explore her vast experience in board and legal affairs, the focus of her current firm, and best practices for boards. Our discussion covers some of the latest governance trends, including ESG, the influence of institutional investors, and shareholder activism in Canada. Additionally, we explore the impact of geopolitics, cybersecurity, and AI in the boardroom. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

From across the pond, join me for a conversation with Oliver Cummings, CEO of Nurole and host of the "Enter the Boardroom" podcast. With Nurole's impressive track record of 1,000 annual board placements and a global network of 65,000 members, Oliver brings valuable insights from the UK on board dynamics. In this episode, we explore: 1) The art of standing out in the board search process 2) Key traits of successful board members 3) The rise of specialized directors 4) Differences between UK and US board dynamics 5) Board culture, evaluations, and the challenges of adding value as a director Oliver also shares stories and lessons from his podcast, featuring wisdom from top CEOs, founders, chairs, and other board leaders. Whether you're a seasoned director or aspiring to join your first board, this episode offers thoughtful insights and advice to elevate your boardroom performance. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Join us for an insightful conversation with Thompson Paine, head of business operations at Anthropic, one of the leading AI companies in San Francisco. Our discussion explores the dynamic intersection of US-China relations, Silicon Valley's startup ecosystem, and AI's transformative role in technology and society. Discover Anthropic's mission and societal impact as we describe its unique structure: a public benefit corporation (PBC) coupled with a long-term benefit trust (LTBT). We also tackle pressing topics such as the private vs. public market debate, and San Francisco's evolving role as a global tech hub. Don't miss this thought-provoking episode that bridges technology, business, and global affairs. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Natasha Allen is a partner at Foley & Lardner in Silicon Valley, serving as Co-Chair for Artificial Intelligence, Co-Chair of the Venture Capital Committee, and a member of the Venture Capital, M&A, and Transactions Practices. In this episode, we explore the risks and opportunities of AI, focusing on its regulatory landscape. We also discuss the state of startups and venture capital in Silicon Valley, including IPO and M&A activity, and examine how antitrust and national security concerns have influenced dealmaking. Additionally, we discuss the dynamics between private and public markets, the impact of geopolitics, diversity challenges, and the increasing politicization of ESG and DEI in the boardroom. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

This episode features an insightful conversation with Tyler Schulz, the Theranos whistleblower, offering a unique perspective on fraud and startup governance in Silicon Valley. We explore: 1) Tyler's background and journey at Theranos, 2) the company's internal culture and wider Silicon Valley practices, 3) corporate fraud, board responsibilities, and investor FOMO, and 4) legal challenges for whistleblowers and the SEC whistleblower process. This discussion provides valuable insights into startup culture, corporate ethics, and the complexities of exposing misconduct in the tech industry. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Ilya Strebulaev is the David S. Lobel Professor of Private Equity and Professor of Finance at the Stanford Graduate School of Business, where he also serves as the Director of the Venture Capital Initiative. Ilya is an expert in corporate finance, venture capital and private equity, corporate innovation, innovation ecosystems, and financial decision-making. In this episode, we focus on his new book "Venture Mindset: How to Make Smarter Bets and Achieve Extraordinary Growth" with specific insights for board members. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Greg LaBlanc is a Lecturer and Distinguished Teaching Fellow at Berkeley, Stanford, HEC Paris and other prestigious institutions. Greg teaches a wide range of subjects, including finance, strategy, law, innovation, data science, and digital transformation. He is also the host of the podcast Unsiloed. Our discussion delves into the era of AI and tech valuations, the evolution of corporate governance models, including variations in VC and PE, and the dynamics between private and public markets. We also explore the Elon Musk compensation litigation, Delaware vs Texas, and the influence of super CEOs. Finally, we tackle the geopolitical landscape, including the concepts of decoupling or derisking with China, and their significance for emerging markets. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Jennifer Dulski is a Silicon Valley-based executive and board member. She is currently CEO and founder of Rising Team, a team performance platform that helps companies increase engagement and scale leadership development. She also currently serves as the Lead Independent Director of Arcadia, a climate tech company. Her previous board experience includes serving on three public company boards: Weight Watchers, TEGNA, and Move (until its acquisition by NewsCorp). We discuss her board journey, boardroom diversity initiatives, and alternative corporate structures such as non-profit and PBCs. We also address the rise of AI, board dynamics and evaluations, and navigating DEI and ESG in the boardroom. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Sonita Lontoh is an independent director of Sunrun, the largest consumer solar-and-battery-as-a-service company in the U.S., and of TrueBlue, a workforce solutions company that connected ~2 million people to work in the past 3 years. Previously, she had a ~30 year executive career at the intersection of innovation, climate/sustainability and digital transformation with companies such as HP, Siemens, and PG&E, and at other venture-backed startups. We discuss the NACD Blue Ribbon Commission Report on board culture, where she served as a commissioner, the increasing politicization of the boardroom, and the impact of geopolitics in the boardroom. We also address the risks and opportunities of AI and its potential impact in the workforce. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Coco Brown is the Founder and CEO of Athena Alliance, a company helping to position top 10% of executive women for advancement and board opportunities. We discuss the origin story of Athena, its transition from non-profit to for-profit, and its focus on supporting women for boardroom placements and other executive roles. We also examine how board service varies in companies with differing capital structures (i.e. public, PE, VC, ESOPs and more), Athena's board readiness course, and the impact of AI in the board and economy generally. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Greg Gretsch is Founding Partner and Managing Director of Jackson Square Ventures, an early-stage VC firm based in San Francisco that invests in software businesses. In this episode, we discuss his entrepreneurial journey in Silicon Valley, both as a founder and an investor. We also explore power dynamics in founder-investor relationships, shifting governance norms (including distinctions between VC, PE, and public companies), and how equity compensation in tech companies has evolved in the last 25 years. We also talk about the evolution of private markets including liquidity alternatives from secondary markets, plus the rise of AI as a new technology platform shift. In addition, we talk about his investment in Cornershop, a leading online grocery provider focused originally on Latin America (acquired by Uber). If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Patrick Gadson is the Co-Head of Vinson & Elkins’ Shareholder Activism practice, which advises public companies in competitive proxy solicitations, strategic investor relations, and corporate governance. We address the evolving dynamics of shareholder activism, the impact of universal proxy rules, and ESG activism (separating E vs S campaigns, as in Exxon and Starbucks). We also talk about differences in activist campaigns in large, mid, and small caps, and how boards should prepare for them. In addition, we address the role of institutional investors and proxy advisors in contested situations. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Leah Solivan is a General Partner at Fuel Capital, a venture capital firm. Prior to that, she was the founder, CEO and Executive Chair at TaskRabbit. Leah scaled the company to 44 cities and raised more than $50 million. In 2017, TaskRabbit was acquired by IKEA. We discuss her journey at TaskRabbit, with a special emphasis on her board experience. We address board composition, scaling, and CEO succession. We also talk about her transition to startup investing, and her thoughts about board service in public companies, and boardroom diversity generally. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Jeff Saviano is the EY Emerging Technology Strategy & Governance Leader. He advises corporate boards, C-suite executives, and senior government officials on the risks, opportunities, and policy/governance implications emanating from innovative technology, with an emphasis on artificial intelligence and Web3. In this episode, we talk about what is probably the hottest topic in corporate governance circles: AI ethics and governance, including board oversight, board committee structure, and board expertise. We also cover AI regulatory oversight in the US and internationally, the OpenAI board fiasco, and some of the novel entity structures used by leading AI companies. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.

Amy Banse is a Venture Partner at Mosaic General Partnership, a VC firm based in SF Bay Area. She has over 30 years of experience starting, investing in, and building businesses at Comcast and as a board member on numerous public and private companies, including Adobe, Clorox, On Running and Lennar Corporation. In this episode we talk about her time leading Comcast Ventures and the evolution of Corporate Venture Capital. We also cover her experience as a director of public and private companies, including distinctions between these types of companies. We also address challenging governance matters, AI as the new new thing, DEI, plus the current state of SF and women sports. If you like this show, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, or sharing this podcast on social media. You can also contribute as a Patron on the link patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod or you can subscribe to the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at evanepstein.substack.com This podcast is sponsored by the American College of Governance Counsel.