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Chat With Traders

Kevin Avery

Chat With Traders is your key to the minds of trading's elite performers. Start listening to learn how a diverse mix of traders went from zero to hero, how they successfully trade markets today, and get their best tips 'n pointers for profitable performance, plus much more. Note: You are responsible for your own trading decisions—this is not financial advice.

340 - 332 · Steve Nison - The Man Who Introduced Candlestick Charting to the West
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  • 340 - 332 · Steve Nison - The Man Who Introduced Candlestick Charting to the West

    Steve Nison came to Wall Street as a technical analyst in the late 1980s, discovered an obscure Japanese charting methodology, and spent years translating rare texts to introduce candlestick charting to the Western world.Through his landmark research, bestselling books, and institutional training at major firms like Merrill Lynch and Daiwa Securities, Steve opened the eyes of global investors to the power of price action and market psychology. Today, candlestick charts are the universal standard across virtually every financial trading platform in the world.In this conversation, Steve pulls back the curtain on how candlesticks first arrived in the West, sharing the cultural and military roots of candlestick patterns, market psychology, and his foundational Trading Triad framework. In this episode, we explore:• How Steve Nison introduced Japanese candlestick charting to the Western world• Discovering candlesticks at Merrill Lynch through a Japanese broker and early Bloomberg charts• Translating 13+ rare Japanese books and working with Japanese technical organizationsy• Why candlesticks complement rather than replace traditional Western technical analysis• The mechanics behind his "Trading Triad" approach• Steve’s reflection on how candlesticks became the global charting standard• Advice for the next generation of traders pulling up candlestick charts today About Steve Nison:Steve Nison, CMT, is the founder and president of Candlecharts.com and is widely regarded as the authority who introduced Japanese candlestick charting to the Western world. He authored the landmark classic Japanese Candlestick Charting Techniques, which has been translated into 21 languages and fundamentally changed technical analysis across global financial markets. Over his 30+ year career, Steve has advised top institutional financial firms including Fidelity, J.P. Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, NYSE, and NASDAQ market makers and has presented by request at the World Bank and the Federal Reserve. Links + Resources:Get Free Candlestick Resources, a Free Consultation Call, and a $20 Gift towards your first program: https://www.candlecharts.com/welcomeWebsite: https://www.candlecharts.comX (Twitter): https://x.com/candlecharts Sponsor of Chat With Traders Podcast:Trade The Pool: http://www.tradethepool.com Time Stamps:Please note: Exact times will vary depending on current ads. 00:00 The Pioneer Who Brought Candlesticks to the West 07:42 A Japanese Broker and a Chart Book 08:35 Translating Rare Japanese Texts & Working with Japanese Analysts 10:22 Making Recommendations Based on Candles 13:46 Why Were You the First? 15:02 Military and Cultural History Behind Candlesticks 19:08 The Story Behind Discovering Price Windows 22:19 Everybody's Using Candlesticks 25:39 Dealing with Institutional Clients 28:14 The Lucky Number Three 31:19 Common Misconceptions Traders Have About Candlestick Patterns 32:36 The Trading Triad 36:34 An Ounce of Emotion Can Be Worth a Pound of Facts 41:01 Reflecting on the Global Shift to Candlestick Charting 41:55 Essential Advice for the Next Generation of Traders 42:48 Where to Learn More About Steve Nison & Candlecharts Trading Disclaimer: Trading in the financial markets involves a risk of loss. Podcast episodes and other content produced by Chat With Traders are for informational or educational purposes only and do not constitute trading or investment recommendations or advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Wed, 16 Sep 2026
  • 339 - 331 · Jeff Holden - How Top Prop Traders Find and Scale Their Edge

    Jeff Holden was once a kid watching his father get laid off during a department cut, realizing early on that he never wanted to be at the mercy of unpredictable market shifts, he wanted full control over his own destiny. Today, as the Head of Trader Development at SMB Capital, Jeff has transformed that drive into a career of identifying, recruiting, and mentoring prop traders into multi-million dollar, seven- and eight-figure performers. After starting as an independent trader working to find his own way, Jeff built his philosophy around structure, baseline consistency, and rigorous risk allocation. Rather than relying on guesswork or emotional "gut feelings," Jeff developed actionable frameworks like the "ASET" protocol to help traders systematically identify edge, manage risk, and scale capital. In this conversation, Jeff pulls back the curtain on how top-tier prop traders are actually built from the ground up. He breaks down the mechanics of price action and tape reading, why scalping serves as the ultimate baseline foundation, and how traders can bridge the gap between steady baseline income and aggressively swinging the bat on high-conviction A+ setups. In this episode, we explore:• How Jeff Holden develops high-performing 7- and 8-figure prop traders at SMB Capital• Jeff’s personal backstory and how a childhood lesson in market volatility shaped his trading philosophy• Why beginner and developing traders must focus on building a consistent baseline strategy first• The "ASET" Protocol: Allocation, Stop, Entry, and Target framework explained• Matching your individual personality and trading psychology to the right archetype and strategy• Jeff’s perspective on trading discipline, daily report cards, and long-term risk management About Jeff Holden:Jeff Holden is the Head of Trader Development at SMB Capital, one of the world's premier proprietary trading firms. Having started his career as an independent trader working to find his own way in the markets, Jeff now specializes in identifying talent, building desk playbooks, and guiding developing traders along the path to consistent, seven- and eight-figure profitability. He is known for his structured, data-driven approach to risk allocation, tape reading, and team trading dynamics. Links + Resources: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-holden-357a1b31a/SMB Capital Website: https://www.smbtraining.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@smbcapitalX (Twitter): https://x.com/smbcapital Sponsor of Chat With Traders Podcast:Trade The Pool: http://www.tradethepool.com Time Stamps:Please note: Exact times will vary depending on current ads.00:00 How Top Prop Traders Find and Scale Their Edge04:05 A Bunch of Nerds Excited About Trading08:42 The Formula for a Trading Career: Baseline Strategies + A+ Setups 14:11 How Not to Approach Trading17:02 Consistency First: The 4-Month Consistency Rule19:55 How Jeff Started Trading & Why SMB Starts Traders with Scalping25:15 Deconstructing the “Bella Scalp”30:33 Price Action Scalping vs. Tape Scalping36:48 Is There a Point in Time a Trade Can Be Adjusted? 40:08 The ASET Protocol: Allocation, Stop, Entry, and Target Breakdown54:00 At What Point Do You Shut Your Computer Down?59:22 Do the Work and Analyze What's Happening in the Market01:11:21 The 3 Archetypes of Traders and Their Internal Self-Talk01:16:01 Commonalities of Traders' Personalities?01:18:38 Traits Jeff is Looking for in Traders01:21:53 Passion is Overrated in Trading01:24:18 Community Trading vs. Team Trading 01:28:56 The Single Greatest Thing That Developing Traders Need to Get Right01:32:04 Where to Follow Jeff Holden & SMB Capital Trading Disclaimer: Trading in the financial markets involves a risk of loss. Podcast episodes and other content produced by Chat With Traders are for informational or educational purposes only and do not constitute trading or investment recommendations or advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Wed, 02 Sep 2026
  • 338 - 330 · Steve Quirk - From Chicago Pit Trader to Robinhood Exec

    Steve Quirk began his career in 1987 on the fast-paced trading floors of Chicago, surviving the historic market crash that wiped out $1.7 trillion worldwide.From navigating open-outcry pits where a trader's word was their bond, Steve transitioned into market technology, helping build landmark tools at thinkorswim and leading trading strategy initiatives at TD Ameritrade. Today, as Chief Brokerage Officer at Robinhood, he sits at the intersection of retail investing, market structure, and financial innovation, shaping products for millions of retail investors.In this conversation, Steve shares key lessons from decades in the markets, the evolution of retail trading technology, and how removing friction like the Pattern Day Trader rule is unlocking the next era of retail investing. In this episode, we explore:• Steve’s early days in the Chicago trading pits in 1987• Why decisive decision-making and accepting being wrong 50% of the time is crucial• The transition from floor trading to building technology at thinkorswim• How Robinhood levels the playing field for retail investors and opens up global access• Managing risks: framing the absolute worst-case scenario before taking a trade• The impact of removing the Pattern Day Trader (PDT) rule for retail traders About Steve Quirk:Steve Quirk is Chief Brokerage Officer at Robinhood Markets. With over 35 years of financial markets experience, he previously led trading strategy at TD Ameritrade, developed innovative trading tools for thinkorswim®, and created the TD Ameritrade U program. Steve started his career in 1987 in the Chicago open-outcry pits across the CME and CBOE, and is a frequent market commentator featured on CNBC, Fox Business, and The Wall Street Journal. Links + Resources:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-quirk-56148a22/X (Twitter): https://x.com/SteveQuirk_ Sponsor of Chat With Traders Podcast:Trade The Pool: http://www.tradethepool.com Time Stamps:Please note: Exact times will vary depending on current ads. 00:00 From Chicago Pit Trader to Robinhood Exec 02:57 What Pulled You to the Market? 07:17 Trading Pits Are More Organized Than They Appear 11:51 Transitioning to Creating Technology for Retail Trading 19:01 Leveling the Playing Field for Retail Traders 21:10 Giving People What They Want 24:45 Did You Fall in Love with Scaling Robinhood Like You Did with Trading? 29:48 What Robinhood Is Doing to Teach 32:12 Early Mistakes in Trading 34:31 Advice to People from Robinhood CBO 36:44 What's Your Next Product Going to Be? 40:24 What Is the PDT Rule? 43:23 What Is a Memory That Came to Mind in Your Trading Career? 45:16 Is There Anything in Your Life That Changed Your Line of Thinking? 46:22 Your Piece of Advice to Your Younger Self 46:57 Where Can Traders Find You? Trading Disclaimer: Trading in the financial markets involves a risk of loss. Podcast episodes and other content produced by Chat With Traders are for informational or educational purposes only and do not constitute trading or investment recommendations or advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Wed, 19 Aug 2026
  • 337 - 329 · Peter Brandt - How a 50-Year Veteran Thinks About Risk Management

    Peter Brandt entered the commodity trading business in 1976 with ContiCommodity Services, survived years of market shifts, and turned a passion for price action into a legendary career spanning over 50 years as one of the world's premier classical chartists.After starting with Conti handling large institutional accounts like Campbell Soup Company and Homestake Mining, Peter went on to found Factor Trading Co., Inc. (now Factor LLC) in 1980 to trade proprietary capital. Author of the classic Diary of a Professional Commodity Trader and featured in Jack Schwager’s Unknown Market Wizards, Peter has spent over five decades navigating inflationary booms, market crashes, and the transition from open-outcry pits to electronic markets. Today, his edge is built on process, discipline, and classical charting principles that have stood the test of time.In this conversation, Peter pulls back the curtain on his five-decade journey, sharing the specific principles that have allowed him to navigate the markets for half a century. He breaks down why high win rates are a myth, how he caps risk at 60–70 basis points per trade, and how he transitioned from searching for quick wins to building a career as a master craftsman in speculation. In this episode, we explore:• Peter Brandt’s 50+ year journey from advertising to commodity pits and Factor Trading• Why high win rates are a myth and how the 80/20 Pareto Principle applies to trading profits• How Peter limits risk to 60–70 basis points per trade and why he never pyramids positions• Why he shuns indicators and diagonal trend lines in favor of horizontal classical patterns• Why the real edge comes from risk management and emotional control, not chart patterns• Peter's advice for the next generation on craft, capital preservation, and longevity About Peter Brandt:Peter L. Brandt entered the commodity trading business in 1976 with ContiCommodity Services, a division of Continental Grain Company. In 1980, he founded Factor Trading Co., Inc. (now Factor LLC), trading proprietary capital across forex, futures, fixed income, and equity markets. Over his career, he has managed trading activities for major institutional clients, including Commodities Corporation of Princeton, NJ.Peter is the author of Trading Commodity Futures with Classical Chart Patterns (1990) and Diary of a Professional Commodity Trader (2011), which held Amazon's #1 trading rank for 27 weeks. Featured in Jack Schwager's Unknown Market Wizards and named among the 30 most influential people in finance by Barry Ritholtz in 2011, Peter is widely recognized as one of the world's foremost authorities on classical chart analysis. Links + Resources:X (Twitter): https://x.com/PeterLBrandtWebsite: https://www.peterlbrandt.com/ Sponsor of Chat With Traders Podcast:Trade The Pool: http://www.tradethepool.com Time Stamps:Please note: Exact times will vary depending on current ads. 00:00 How a 50-Year Veteran Thinks About Risk Management05:42 Wanting a Career from Trading09:42 Taking 5 Years to Be Profitable15:20 Don't Quit Your Day Job to Trade Until You Have a Proven Track Record22:30 Cut Losses Short and Let My Winning Trades Run27:00 Understand the Risk and the Probability31:00 20% of My Trades Account for at Least 80% of My Total Profits36:08 Sizing Is Really Important and It Is the Reason Why a Lot of Novices Blow Out43:00 Removing Yourself from the Equation48:30 I Don't Believe in Optimization Where You Have a Set of Rules52:50 I Like Horizontal and Continuation Patterns54:38 I Don't Believe in Indicators Because They're Just Derivatives of Price1:00:00 Technical Analysis: Charts Resonated with Who I Am1:03:20 The Time Frame I Trade1:07:00 How Important It Is to Identify How You Trade1:09:15 Having a Mentor1:14:50 What Are You Most Proud of in Your Career01:20:09 I Enter Every Trade Assuming It's Going to Be a Loser01:26:05 Become a Craftsman of Trading01:33:48 You Can’t Go Broke Taking Small Profits, But You Will Go Broke Taking Large Losses01:35:40 Peter's Takeaway He Leaves to the Next Generation of Traders01:36:14 Where Can Traders Find You Trading Disclaimer:Trading in the financial markets involves a risk of loss. Podcast episodes and other content produced by Chat With Traders are for informational or educational purposes only and do not constitute trading or investment recommendations or advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Wed, 05 Aug 2026
  • 336 - 152: Kory Hoang – A Beginners Foray Into (Part-Time) Systematic Trading

    Kory Hoang is not a veteran trader—he’s not someone who has been doing this 10-20 years. He’s someone who has been doing this for only a few years, yet he’s begun to make decent gains on his trading capital. Kory is also not a full-time trader …well, at the time of recording this—a few weeks ago—he wasn’t! Kory was a private equity analyst for Pitchbook, who traded on the side. But he’s since informed me that he’s handed in his notice and taken the leap to focus on trading (plus a couple startup projects). In terms of how he trades; Kory is a retail systematic trader. He’s running numerous algorithmic strategies, which he’s developed (all of which are fairly simple). These run on various ETFs, ETNs and even some cryptocurrencies. During our chat, we cover quite a bit; but mostly his journey and how he’s progressed to this point! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Thu, 30 Nov 2017
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