The Rabbit Hole

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0.30 – Welcome – discussion about Garry’s trip to Cobram Estate - Garry now an expert on Olive Oil - Eric Bana, Dylan Buckley, Brendon Fevola all went along - Nick Riewoldt hosted 12.00 – The plane trip - There was an incident at the Essendon airport – Tim worried for Garry! 16.00 – Flying interstate to footy games for broadcasts - MMM used to get their own chartered flight - Huddo jumped in with MMM one day as his wife was in labour! 18.00 – The Chimp Empire - A show that Garry and Tim are watching on Netflix 23.00 – Chat about tyres and cars 28.00 – Big Bills House - Garry’s story about The Footy Show, where they did the ‘Big Bills House’ skit - Warwick Capper entered – Garry had to impersonate him 35.00 – Sam’s gift to Garry for his 40th - They went to Vegas – Sam kept a diary and gave it to Garry when they got home 40.00 – FARMING, for Kubota - Starting a fire - Process of collecting wood - Garry nearly burnt down the Mornington Peninsula national park - Have a fire safety plan 45.00 – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes, for TJM - Do you dress to impress? - Charlotte Hornets value going down for not getting pick #1

0.30 – Tim went to a funeral yesterday - If Tim passes before Garry, Tim is happy to allocate a 10 minute spot for Garry at the funeral - Wants Garry to start sombre and heavy, but then bring them home with a big laugh at the end - Garry says it’s one of the great signs of respect to go to a funeral 9.00 – Garry’s neighbours - The lady downstairs is a pianist - She plays at 9:30pm – too late for Garry 10.45 – How many ‘besties’ do you have? - Tim says it started big, but now about 3 - If you can get through life with 3 or 4, you’ve done well 14.00 – Moods - Garry and Tim know each other’s moods well 23.00 – Garry story re: staying at Ian Dicker’s place in Aspen with Hutchy 30.00 – Massages - Tim has often seen a masseuse since playing footy 38.00 – Mark Cuban re: NBA players checking their phone at half time - Played audio from a TED Talk interview he did 46.00 – Stories about coaches - Denis Pagan, Slug Jordan 47.00 – Famring, for Kubota - Update on Garry’s mower 50.00 – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes - Robert De Niro has his seventh child at 79 years of age - Blue Wiggle wants to buy the Wests Tigers - Jacob Van Rooyen tribunal

1 minute – Stories about Dwayne Russell The way he tests his mic before on air for Fox Footy And the caffeine he consumes during a match 4 minutes – Cologne Tim is trying a new cologne today Leaving reviews for items you’ve brought (cologne, clothing) 11 minutes – Ferreting The excitement of it – not a kid in the world that wouldn’t enjoy it 12 minutes – Tim’s enjoyment for matchmaking shows Farmer Wants A Wife, Indian Match Maker, MAFS 17 minutes – Using Google to fix things Garry used it to help fix his chainshaw 20 minutes – ‘All Modesty Aside’ Tim told the story about his Escort Cup goal, leaping over the pack 27 minutes – Tim re: junior trip to Ireland Coached by Don Scott Spoke about Don Scott’s old school coaching tactics The double agent in the side – an Irish man who gave all their tactics to the Irish team 38 minutes – Farming, for Kubota Tim’s leaking dam 45 – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes, for TJM The MET Gala Giannis Antetokounmpo re: success or failed season Measuring success Anthony Albanese and Kyle Sandilands wedding

1 minute – Checking Tyres 5 minutes – Tim’s job at a servo in Dimboola Favourite hamburger fillings 14 minutes – Tim’s chat with a cab driver 18 minutes – When Garry’s dad won 1st division in 1986 Harry Beitzel presented the $1.5million cheque Garry got the nickname ‘dollars’ They went to Disneyland to celebrate 22 minutes – Garry’s trip to Gallipoli Went with a few Essendon players Jobe Watson was one of them, but he slept the whole time! 27 minutes – Tim’s trip to the UK with Jobe Went to a Chelsea match with their Chairman, Ken Bates 36 minutes – Nick Kyrgios drink ‘Alive’ 38 minutes – When Garry met Muhammad Ali All Garry could say was ‘I love you’ Muhammad Ali sent a signed book to Garry 45 minutes – Chat about Ryan Reynolds and Wrexham 52 minutes – Farming for Kubota Chat about ducks 54 minutes – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes for TJM Barry Humphries passing

2 mins: Brazilian butt lifts 4 mins: Abuse from the crowd Playing at FF wasn’t ideal, because you could hear everything the cheersquad would say 6 mins: Garry told a story about when Gary Ablett Snr knocked him out Lyon had no idea what happened, but he played out the rest of the game Ablett Snr confessed to it, even though he was found to have no case to answer He had found God and confessed, got 3 weeks 13 mins: Tim re: tribunal The players would sit in the same waiting room and work out their stories before they went in There was a players’ code – broken by David Polkinghorne Tim re: being reported for hitting Greg Healy and Tony Liberatore 18 mins: Garry re: being reported Reported once for a jumper punch And reported twice for abusing an umpiring 23 mins: Tim funny story about time he met Barry Humphries – followed by Dame Edna 30 mins: The selfish nature of sport Played audio of JR Smith re: being a better rounded person 37 mins: International Rules stories Dog on the field ‘Probably our best player’ 39 mins: Farming, for Kubota Cutting down a tree Can Garry/Tim compared their dams 44 mins: Quick Fire Rabbit Holes Loved Gather Round Vegemite 100 years old

Start – Welcome – chat about Tyres and Tyrepower Do you check your tyres often? Garry has his car serviced regularly 3 mins – Gather Round Tim hasn’t travelled for footy for over 5 years – it’s been a while for Garry too Used to travel every week Tim stories about travelling – used to have premium VIP service 16 mins – The Truth newspaper 21 mins – Old Man Crawf Chat about a Footy Show skit 30 minutes – Bomber from the Bush Recapped some of the best bits Tim re: The Sun newspaper photoshoot (front page) Sheedy taking over as coach Playing with Paul Vander Haar 41 minutes – Farming, for Kubota Woodsplitting 47 minutes – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes The Masters iPhone tip

1 min – Easter this weekend Hot Crossed Buns – Garry has never had one 5 minutes – Garry’s Telstra issue Had a problem after missing one bill (in 25 years!), because he got a new credit card 10 minutes – Re-capping Tim’s doco/interview – Bomber from the Bush Interview with Sandy Roberts Played some audio from the doco 15 minutes – Joseph Gutnik days at Melbourne 1996 – Melbourne/Hawks merger situation – Garry and the players were told the club wouldn’t exist past 1996 The final match of the year vs. Hawks – the ‘merger game’ – Hawks won by 1 point Vote in September, horrible time Garry felt like Melbourne were selling their soul – but the only options were to merge, or to get Gutnik in 1997 – Gutnik essentially sacks Neil Balme on air (Meloburne radio) – three weeks later Balme was gone Garry strong that the president can’t go sacking the coach at half time of a match The week after Neil Balme was sacked, Garry played (had missed the season injured) – it was Greg Hutchison’s first game as coach Garry had a huge crack in the rooms at a board member that made an off the cuff comment about Garry’s injury payments 44 minutes – Farming, for Kubota Dealing with Kangaroos on the farm How do you control them? 50 minutes – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes LIV vs PGA – for the Masters Garry’s time at the Grand Prix Played a clip from AIR – the movie about Sonny Vaccaro, Phil Knight, Michael Jordan Donald Trump situation

1 minute – Chat about hair How often do you get a haircut? Why Tim hasn’t completely shaved his hair off 3 minutes – Planning a holiday for later in the year When is the best time to take leave Last year they had a holiday at the same place, same time… But Tim thinks it’s better to go somewhere different so they don’t have the same stories 7 minutes – Grand Prix this weekend Garry told the story about his time in the celebrity race Who else was in the race – Richard Wilkins, Daley Thompson, Thomas Muster, Kristy Hinze, Steve Price The week leading up – lots of practice, a few prangs but when they arrive the next day the car was ready to go again Garry finished third – it was completely nerve-wracking 22 minutes – Played audio of Garry with Dipper in 1995 Garry was out with concussion – told a story about his experience with temporary amnesia 32 minutes – Clothing and fashion Tim’s interest in fashion Garry loves Lululemon Tim likes wearing Cashmere in winter – Buck Mason 40 minutes – Farming segment for Kubota 50 minutes – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes Wangaratta Magpies lose their premiership. Tim told the story about the time he forgot Greg Hutchison’s name (caretaker Melbourne coach)

1 minute – Morning routine for Breakfast radio Tim spoke about his 4:48am alarm How to wake yourself up properly – even during the day – wash your face with cold water How many coffees per day is too many? 10 minutes – Is Luke Beveridge’s teeth fair game? Gaz says he has been involved with that sort of thing previously, so he doesn’t want to preach – but it was uncomfortable to watch Beveridge wasn’t brought along with the gag 14 minutes – Ch 9 vs Ch 7 news Tim doesn’t like being in the story, doesn’t like the tacky clickbait TJ’s clip for Ch 7 – Tim doesn’t want to add fuel to the fire Discussion on how competitive the news world is 17 minutes – Garry’s round 1 Busy working each day Fox Footy broadcast from studio on Friday night, because on Friday they were in a spot which is usually for wheelchair access 21 minutes – On The Couch How do you sort through agenda? 23 minutes – SOS not going into Carlton’s rooms Garry and Tim didn’t have an issue with it Had a wider chat about connection to a football club, even if there’s a falling out Garry told a story about an incident he had with Joseph Gutnik after 1999 25 minutes – Politics Luke Darcy friendship with Peter Dutton Chat about politics – Tim says he was indirectly approached years ago Tim was the Chairman of Community Crime and Safety prevention board Tim story re: tour of Pentridge, in a cell with Julian Knight 37 minutes – The Footy Show story from Garry Mark ‘Chopper’ Read on the Footy Show when Garry was on the panel (Eddie hosting) Chopper wanted to write a kids book with Garry! 39 minutes – Acting – Garry and Tim’s experiences in plays House of Bulger – when the Rock appeared alongside Garry 48 minutes – Quick Fire Rabbit Holes – for TJM Scams – Tim has an ‘activation word’ in his family if they are in need Fisherman at a busy beach – Garry saw it on holidays at Jervis Bay. A guy fishing in the middle of everyone Why are Finnish people the happiest in the world? 53 minutes – Farming, for Kubota Look after your equipment

THE RABBIT HOLE – for Tyrepower 1 minute – intro and welcome Previewed some of the potential topics today Head down the Rabbit Hole, for TJM 4 minutes – Garry’s raspy voice Extra voiceover work for new AFL video game Garry did it a couple of years ago, but the change this year is they needed to put non-binary commentary in as well Gus Gould did it for the NRL, but didn’t get through it all – went to his car and didn’t come back! 9 minutes – Excitement for round 1 Tim’s first memory of loving the game – watching 1966 Grand Final in his great auntie’s living room Gaz used to follow his dad everywhere, as he was coach of the local footy team Gaz told a story how his dad introduced him to John Kennedy Gaz used to be the mascot for his old man’s team – used to go to the coin toss with him each week – at Mortlake, Portland and Kyabram Tim re: listening to the footy on the radio as a kid Reflecting on country footy – growing up and watching it each Saturday afternoon 23 minutes – Tim on his debut – round 6, 1977 Tim explained how he was drafted – got the letter from the Bombers at 15 years of age, slept with it and read it everyday Says he shouldn’t have been played at the age of 15 35 minutes – Gaz on how he was recruited to Melbourne On his debut – on Easter weekend. Everything shut on Good Friday and he was in agony with a sore back, couldn’t get it sorted from club doctors 38 minutes – Re-capped Garry’s Saddam Hussain story Played 4 grabs from Garry’s stint on the Today Show and dissected each of them 44 minutes – Farming, for Kubota Chainsaw stories Dangerous to chainsaw on your own 48 minutes – 5 Rabbit Holes – quick fire topics Oscars fashion Breastfeeding in the courtroom Submarines Gary Lineker Ricky Ponting’s $20m house purchase

1 MIN Post footy career moves Garry’s studying history in finance Sales Rep dreams, lawnmowing realities 4 MIN Offers – if Garry ever auditioned or interviewed for a role during/post footy Garry was approached by 2 people for some modelling shots, he had to pay $350 to get it done Tim auditioned for a few things – an international ad. Thought he had the gig sewn up, showed up to the shoot and there was a line out the door. Had to pose with his arm out of the truck door in a blue tradie singlet Also auditioned for Man Oh Man host 9 MIN The story of how Garry was filling in hosting the Today Show in 2003 just before Christmas, and the day just happened to be the one that Saddam Hussein was captured Was hosting the Sunday Footy Show, doing some Any Given Sunday and appearing on The Footy Show Was approached by David Gingell, said to Garry come up to Sydney and do the Today Show. Quiet period heading into Christmas, have some fun. Garry initially said no, but was turned around Channel 9 flew him up Business, nice hotel on the rocks Was watching a movie in bed when the news ticker came up, BREAKING NEWS, SADDAM HUSSEIN CAPTURED, TUNE IN TO THE TODAY SHOW TOMORROW FOR THE LATEST The biggest story of the century has broken, he thought Sam Newman had called the hotel and pranked him Garry’s phone call to the producer the night before, tried to get out of the gig 16 MIN Thought they would pivot him to a sports host gig, he walks in at 3AM and it’s a madhouse. Sits down to makeup, a research girl drops a ream of A4 paper on his desk, says ‘that’s your auto-cue and ins and outs’ “I’ve never read an auto-cue in my life!” John Howard , current Prime Minister was in the building “We now cross to Garry Lyon, who is with Australia’s head of counter terrorism" Never felt more nervous or out of place in his entire life 20 MIN A couple of quotes from articles criticising Garry’s performance   25 MIN Is there a job in the media that you want to do? The pinnacle, the dream gig? Garry interviewing Deontay Wilder at the Super Bowl 29 MIN Are you happy? Tim listened to a podcast on happiness, the boys chat about it existentially. Tim spoke about getting happiness from making pizza dough and making the pizza 33 MIN What makes you happy? Garry is happy when he’s on his farm Tim is happy driving across his property on the Gator, with Brando bounding along behind him Is Brando a good looking dog? Garry says his eyes scare him We might talk dogs next week on the Rabbit Hole 38 MIN Quick whip around a few topics MCG surface chat Ja Morant Dolphins NRL and Munster finger break 41 MIN Farming chat for Kubota 43 min Tim’s obsession with SBS movies Tim says it’s because he got subtitles, and he was partially deaf so he could understand what is going on Finds the stories a bit better Garry thinks its for ulterior motives Tim makes a cup of tea when it gets to that part, he is not interested in it Favourite movie talk – Tim is Shawshank, Garry is Bravehart

1 minute – Headlines last week! The Footy Show story Garry has a bone to pick with Tim about buying coffees 3 minutes – Tim spoke about his weekend looking after grandkids 5 minutes – Garry on the trip to Cathedral “There is no one that makes me laugh more than him” – Garry re: Sam Newman Sam turned up with golf clubs under his arm for the chopper, no golf bag. All to save space on the chopper with weight 9 – minutes Tim’s commentary of a game Garry played in back in 1992 15 minutes – Old Media Stories Recapped Garry’s Footy Show story last week And Tim told a story about when he was offered the role to host Getaway… And how he landed the role with channel 7 With 6 rounds to go in 2000, he told the Saints he was done with coaching… Told Grant Thomas… Left the Saints without a job to go to and Ch 7 called him to have his old job back He was told by Ch 7 that his footy credibility was shot, so he couldn’t work on their footy coverage – instead he read the sport on the weekends (but they paid him more) 22 minutes – George Samios in studio How Tim and George came to know each other How George started on SEN Breakfast, how it all came about Discussed different regions in Australia A good hitting zone for decent wine is $20-40… But you can get the odd good one for $10 Wolf Blass Red Label Shiraz Grenache is just $8 but George rates it… The Grenache is far better quality than what is usually in a cheap bottle “Food, people and wine” is what keeps George happy There are some good cask wines – and better for sustainability Cellars – a lot of people do it for the wrong reasons (to show off) and they fill it with average wines just to make it look big 46 minutes – Kubota Farming segment

The Rabbit Hole – for Tyrepower 1 minute – Intro and explanation for the change of name of the podcast 4 minutes – Told a couple of stories about their parents and their medication 9 minutes – Charles Barkley chat Audio from ‘All The Smoke’ podcast about his daughter not liking sport/basketball 12 minutes – Parents and sport Tim says he didn’t really push Jobe into playing sports Tim told a funny story about Jobe’s first junior game, didn’t get near the footy – the only aggression he showed for the day was in the back seat of the car feuding with his sisters! One of the great parts of being a parent is seeing your kids play and enjoy sport Gaz coached his kids footy teams and loved it, favourite part of the week 16 minutes – Roles in media Tim says everyone wants to host, but it’s not in everyone’s skillset Charles Barkley being pursued to be a host, but Tim isn’t sure that’s for him Garry told a story about when Ch 7 approached him for Live and Kicking in 1999 – The Footy Show Harvey Silver invited him, Jason Dunstall, Billy Brownless and Doug Hawkins for lunch to pitch Live and Kicking to them, to go on Channel 7 28 minutes – Discussion about social media Garry isn’t big on it Tim has one because Ch 7 suggested it to him one day Garry went to TLA this week and they said they could line him up with products for his house renovation, if he uses social media to help promote it Garry asking if he should use Instagram to get the products? 34 minutes – FARMING CHAT – For Kubota Garry and Tim will document the issues, challenges and projects on their farms Today’s issue is in relation to rabbits on the farm Discussed their veggie gardens 40 minutes – General chat Tim has new glasses Jack Ginnivan story Nick Kyrgios new drink brand – Alive 4 field umpires in the AFL this year

Garry and Tim's weekly podcast - episode 1. Discussion includes their summer holiday, restaurant and dinner etiquette, an in depth discussion with Tim about the Bombers and recent articles where he was mentioned, the Herald Sun top 40 Power list and how Tim got the nickname 'Whispy'.