Fierce Conversations with Toby

Prison took comfort.
Certainty.
Privacy.
Control.
Time.

But it also stripped life down to its barest truths.

In this episode of Fierce Conversations, I reflect on the unexpected things that emerged inside the hardest season of my life — perspective, resilience, deep human connection, and a new understanding of what truly matters.

This isn’t a story about glorifying prison.

It’s a conversation about what happens when everything familiar falls away… and who we become in the aftermath.

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Some moments don’t end when they happen. They echo. They divide a life into before and after.

In this episode of Fierce Conversations with Toby, Toby revisits one of the most painful and defining fractures of her story—the split between who she was, who the world believed her to be, and the woman she would eventually become.

Through raw reflection and hard-earned wisdom, this conversation explores identity, shame, reinvention, survival, and the complicated process of learning to live truthfully after everything falls apart.

This is not just a conversation about breaking.
It’s a conversation about what happens next.

✨ Topics explored in this episode:
• Personal transformation
• The emotional aftermath of public failure
• Reinvention and second chances
• Shame, identity, and healing
• The courage to rebuild

If this episode resonates with you, subscribe, share, and join the conversation.

#FierceConversations #TobyDorr #PersonalTransformation #SecondChances #Resilience #Healing #Storytelling #BreakFree #LiveTrue

I wasn’t going to read the comments.
But I did.

What I found wasn’t just judgment—it was something deeper.

In this episode, I reflect on what happens when we come face to face with the stories people tell about us—and what shifts when we stop taking them personally.

There is a moment in every life that changes everything.

A rupture. A decision. A loss. A truth that can’t be unlearned.

But what we don’t talk about enough is what comes after.

After the moment passes.

After the adrenaline fades.

After the world keeps moving as if nothing happened.

Twenty years ago, Toby Dorr escaped prison — a moment that forever divided her life into before and after. But this episode isn’t about the escape itself. It’s about what came next: truth, accountability, healing, and discovering freedom in unexpected places.This reflection marks the 20th anniversary of February 12, 2006 — a day that reshaped everything and ultimately led to advocacy, storytelling, and the creation of the Fierce Grace Movement.Short reflections. Real stories. Fierce conversations.This is Fierce Conversations — where silence breaks.Explore the podcast

Where truth gets a microphone — and silence doesn’t get the last word.

Fierce Conversations with Toby is a podcast for stories that refuse to stay buried. Hosted by author and advocate Toby Dorr, each episode offers a quiet but unflinching reflection on truth-telling, resilience, and what it means to live with conviction after everything changes.

This is not a podcast of soundbites or spectacle. It’s a space for presence. For witness. For conversations that go where fear would rather not tread.

Some episodes are deeply personal. Others hold space for collective reckoning, forgiveness, remembrance, and becoming. All of them are rooted in honesty — spoken slowly, with room for silence to matter.

If you’re here to listen, reflect, heal, or simply sit with a voice that doesn’t rush past the hard parts, you’re welcome here.

Because some stories don’t need to be louder.
They just need to be told.

Fierce Conversations with Toby isn’t just a podcast — it’s a movement of voices that refuse to be silenced. Hosted by author and change-maker Toby Dorr, each episode dives deep into raw truths, second chances, and the power of resilience.

Here, you’ll find unfiltered stories of struggle and triumph, moments of grace in the midst of chaos, and conversations that rise stronger even when the world tries to shut them down. With authenticity at the core, Toby and her guests spark dialogue that heals, ignites, and inspires.

This is the podcast they couldn’t cancel. Because bold voices can’t be silenced — and the fiercest stories are the ones that keep rising.

Change doesn’t happen overnight. But progress is progress, no matter how small. Take a moment today to celebrate those small wins—every step forward counts. Whether it’s completing a task or making a decision, honor your journey and recognize the growth in each day.

Fear is a natural feeling, but it doesn’t have to control us. Letting go of fear is about making peace with uncertainty. Trust that you have the resilience to handle whatever comes your way. Let fear be the fuel that drives you forward instead of the anchor that holds you back.

Self-belief is the foundation of everything you do. You have everything you need inside you right now. No one else has your unique combination of gifts, strengths, and experiences. Trust yourself. Believe that you are ready for the next chapter.

Courage isn’t always about grand gestures—it’s built in the small, everyday steps we take toward change. In this episode of Fierce Bits, we explore how embracing small acts of bravery can lead to powerful transformation. Whether it’s speaking up, stepping forward, or simply refusing to give up, every moment of courage matters. Because real change starts with one bold step at a time.

In this episode of Fierce Bits, we dive into the transformative power of choice. Change starts with a mindset shift, and the first step is recognizing that you have the power to choose your path. It’s easy to feel stuck in the face of uncertainty, but today, we’re embracing the idea that your next step is yours to decide. We’ll explore how small choices can lead to big transformations and how shifting your mindset can open doors to new possibilities. Tune in to reclaim your power and start making choices that align with the future you want to create.

What wisdom would you share with the person you once were? In this Life-Changing Questions episode of Fierce Bits, we pause to reflect on the lessons, love, and encouragement we’d offer our younger selves. What would you say? And more importantly—are you listening to that advice now?

Join us for a moment of reflection and self-compassion. 💭💫 #FierceBits #LifeChangingQuestions #WisdomWithin

When you're in the middle of a struggle, it's easy to feel stuck or defeated. But what if this challenge isn’t just an obstacle—it’s a stepping stone? In this Life-Changing Questions episode of Fierce Bits, we explore how adversity can shape, strengthen, and prepare you for something greater than you ever imagined.

Take a moment to shift your perspective and discover the hidden growth within your challenges. 🌿💫 #FierceBits #LifeChangingQuestions #GrowthThroughAdversity

Life moves fast, but have you paused to ask yourself: What truly matters most to me? And more importantly—Am I living in alignment with it? In this short yet powerful Fierce Bits episode, we invite you to reflect on your values, priorities, and the small (or big) shifts that could bring you closer to a life that feels authentic and fulfilling.

Take a deep breath, tune in, and let this moment of reflection guide your next step. 💫 

Fear holds us back from the life we’re meant to live. In this short but powerful Fierce Bits episode, Toby challenges you to ask yourself: What would you do if you weren’t afraid? When we strip away fear, we uncover our deepest desires and boldest dreams. Take a moment to reflect—what’s waiting for you on the other side of fear?

One quiet act of defiance changed the course of history. On December 1, 1955, Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on a segregated bus in Montgomery, Alabama. Her quiet strength ignited the Montgomery Bus Boycott, sparking a movement that challenged racial injustice and reshaped the fight for civil rights. This Fierce Bit honors Rosa Parks’ unwavering courage and the power of one moment to inspire change.

Harriet Tubman risked everything for freedom—not just her own, but for countless others. Escaping slavery was only the beginning; she returned again and again, guiding over 70 enslaved people to safety through the Underground Railroad. With unwavering faith and fearless determination, she defied the odds and became a beacon of hope. This Fierce Bit honors her extraordinary bravery and the legacy of liberation she left behind.

In this Fierce Flashbacks episode, we take a hard look at the fight for criminal justice reform—unraveling the injustices, the systemic failures, and the voices demanding change. Through past conversations with advocates, formerly incarcerated individuals, and legal experts, we explore the cracks in the system and the movements working to create a fairer, more humane approach to justice.

From sentencing disparities to prison conditions, and wrongful convictions to second chances, this episode revisits powerful moments that shine a light on what needs to change—and how we can be part of that transformation.

Because justice isn't just a concept—it’s a fight worth having.

For nearly three decades, the Berlin Wall stood as a symbol of division and oppression. But on November 9, 1989, the courage of ordinary people demanding freedom shattered that barrier. As protests grew and pressure mounted, the wall finally fell, marking the end of the Cold War and a powerful victory for unity. This Fierce Bit honors the resilience of those who dared to dream of a world without walls.

At just 15 years old, Malala Yousafzai stood up to the Taliban’s oppressive rule in Pakistan, refusing to be silenced in her fight for girls’ education. Even after surviving an assassination attempt, she continued her advocacy, becoming the youngest Nobel Peace Prize laureate. Her courage reminds us that one voice can spark global change. This Fierce Bit honors Malala’s unwavering determination to ensure that every girl has the right to learn.

On August 28, 1963, over 250,000 people gathered in Washington, D.C., to demand civil rights, justice, and equality. This historic march became a defining moment in the fight for freedom, culminating in Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s iconic "I Have a Dream" speech. Their courage in the face of injustice changed history. This Fierce Bit honors their bravery and reminds us that collective action has the power to transform the world.

Fierce Bits is a production of Fierce Conversations with Toby. Sparks of Inspiration, Under a Minute.

Today, A Sequoia's Strength: Standing the Test of Time

Sequoias stand tall for centuries because they intertwine their roots with others. Strength doesn't come from standing alone; it comes from connection.

Ferce Bits is a production of Fierce Conversations with Toby. Sparks of Inspiration, Under a Minute.

Today, A Butterfly's Transformation: Growth Through Change.

The caterpillar's world ends in the cocoon, but that's where transformation begins. Growth often feels like the end, but it's really the start of something beautiful.

Fierce Bits is a production of Fierce Conversations with Toby. Sparks of Inspiration, Under a Minute.

Today, The Adaptability of a River: Carving its Path Through Rock.

Rivers don't resist obstacles -- they flow around them wearing them down over time. Life's challenges aren't barriers but opportunities to find your flow.

Join us for this special episode of Fierce Flashbacks, where we spotlight authors sharing the stories behind their books. From the inspiration that sparked their creativity to the challenges they faced along the way, these storytellers take us behind the scenes of their writing journeys. Discover the passion and purpose that brought their words to life.

Fierce Bits is a production of Fierce Conversations with Toby. Sparks of Inspiration, Under a Minute.

Today, A Hummingbird's Journey: Small but Mighty. Hummingbirds are tiny, yet they travel thousands of miles on sheer determination. You don't need to be big to make a big impact -- just determined.

Fierce Bits is a production of Fierce Conversations with Toby. Sparks of Inspiration, Under a Minute. Today, the Resilience of Trees. After a storm, a broken tree may seem lifeless, but with time, new leaves sprout. Like the tree, we too can regrow, stronger than before. Resilience isn't about avoiding the storm; it's about thriving after it.

“The past is a foreign country…”

In this Fierce Bit, we explore L.P. Hartley’s thought-provoking first line from The Go-Between. It’s a reminder that while we can’t relive the past, we can reflect on its lessons. What does this line inspire in you about your own journey?

“All children, except one, grow up.”

In today’s Fierce Bit, J.M. Barrie’s wistful line from Peter Pan reminds us of the fleeting magic of childhood. Explore how this opening invites us to carry the wonder and imagination of youth into every stage of life. A little spark of nostalgia and hope!

“Call me Ishmael.”

This Fierce Bit unpacks the simplicity and mystery of Herman Melville’s opening to Moby-Dick. Learn how these three words invite us into a profound journey and remind us that even the simplest beginnings can lead to transformation.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…”

Charles Dickens' famous words from A Tale of Two Cities resonate through the ages. This Fierce Bit uncovers how duality shapes our lives and how growth often springs from the tension between opposites. Tune in for a spark of insight!

In this powerful episode of Fierce Conversations, we revisit heartfelt moments that explore the unbreakable bond between love and resilience. Through personal stories and deep reflections, we uncover how love—whether for others or oneself—can become a wellspring of strength during life’s most challenging seasons.

From enduring heartbreak to discovering the courage to rebuild, this episode celebrates the beauty of human connection and the resilience it inspires. Tune in for a journey of vulnerability, empowerment, and the transformative power of love.

“It is a truth universally acknowledged…”

Today’s Fierce Bit dives into Jane Austen’s iconic opening from Pride and Prejudice. Discover how this single line challenges societal norms and invites us to question the 'truths' we often take for granted. A moment of irony, wit, and timeless wisdom—all in under a minute!

My guest, Rosalyn Rourke, MSW, has worked as a psychotherapist for over 30 years, specializing in trauma resilience, body dysmorphia, and imagined unworthiness (shame). After the unexpected death of her daughter, Melissa, Rosalyn experienced what many would call a Spiritual Awakening. This led her to write the bestselling memoir and non-dual fable When Wisdom Arrives: From Imagined Unworthiness to Freedom. The book delves into her journey of releasing profound grief, body dysmorphia, mother-daughter struggles, and imagined unworthiness.

Candace Newman is an author, artist, teacher, and aromatherapy licensed massage therapist.  Her book, Your Inner River of Peace: Ten Messages of Love, is a Guide for building a deep, loving relationship with Your own Inner River of Peace. Her life experiences with the Messages, along with the Four Themes pave the way. Her Touch With Oils® work is based on Ten Principles and Ten Motions of Stillness. They support this devotion.

www.TouchWithOilsInstitute.com  

Erica Richmond is the author of three books including: Pixie and the Bees, a whimsical tale about learning to trust yourself while living with an invisible illness; Pixie and the Fox, a story about remembering that you get to decide you are; and The Mail Art Stories Project: Mail Art in the Time of Covid-19, a collection of mail art from around the world that chronicles the Covid-19 pandemic.

Through her business Open Sky Stories, Erica leads a variety of workshops and speaking engagements which focus on creative unblocking, the importance of sharing our stories, and overcoming our inner critic.

Erica lives in Peterborough, Ontario finding joy and beauty in her messy and imperfect life. Follow her on social media @OpenSkyStories and visit her website: openskystories.ca

Website: https://openskystories.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/openskystories/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/openskystories

Originally from the VA/DC/MD area, Audrey is a devoted mother of two adult children, a proud
grandmother of three, and the widow of former Army Lieutenant James Harrell. Audrey's
personal interests include traveling, spending time with family, and rehabbing houses. In 2012,
she founded Built by Her, a real estate investment company that established an apprenticeship
program to help incarcerated women acquire skilled trades in the construction industry.
In 2021, Audrey relocated with her husband to St. Paul, Minnesota and currently serves as the
Executive Director of Hope House - St. Croix Valley, an adult foster care home.

Audrey's career spans over 20 years, during which she has held senior-level positions in management, fundraising, strategic planning, and program development across various nonprofits and governmental agencies in the U.S.

Audrey has worked with women bringing forth life as a birth doula and families experiencing a
loss of life as a Grief Coach and Family Mediator. Audrey believes that her journey is part of a
larger plan. Her commitment to improving the lives of others, especially those in need, is a
testament to her dedication and compassionate nature. Audrey Harrell continues to inspire
through her leadership, community involvement, and unwavering faith in her mission to serve
and uplift those around her.

Priscilla Coleman Jenkins’ mission is accomplished through her non-profit organization, Overcomers Journey Through Scriptural Prayers Ministries. The purpose is to foster hope and healing through her YouTube Channel, virtual and in-person-songs, scriptural prayers, and book readings at community events, nursing homes, hospice hospitals and local churches. Priscilla’s books are the resource used for this purpose.

Priscilla Coleman Jenkins is a retired music educator, singer, composer, YouTuber, and author of six books about her experiences of faith and God’s love. Priscilla’s first book, “An Overcomers’ Journey from the Effects of Abuse Through Scriptural Prayers” is her autobiography that describes abuses and social isolation from an early age through young adulthood to a turbulent marriage for twenty-five years.

The effects of her life manifested into suicidal thoughts, severe depression, PTSD, and an eating disorder. After divorce at age fifty she began the process of breakthrough from the past with application and diligent meditation of the word of God. Her autobiography includes a self-help section for the reader. The book has provided hope and healing in nursing homes, detention centers, prisons in Maryland, West Virginia and California. It also has been a resource for Women's Conferences, Bible Studies and personal use in Japan, Germany and throughout the United States.

Find her on social media:
@overcomersjourneythroughscript
Or on her website:
https://www.overcomerthroughprayer.org

Susan Mathews is a mother, author, speaker, and co-founder of Love Without Reason. Love Without Reason is a nonprofit that works to fight human trafficking, prevent it and end it before it starts. The organization was birthed through the journey of her first child, Philip.

After obtaining her undergraduate degrees in chemistry and nursing, she went on to get her Master of Science in Nursing and served for over twenty years in the healthcare industry from CNA to Nurse to Family Nurse Practitioner.

She is the wife of Santhosh Mathews, and mother to Philip, Sara and Caleb. Her experiences with her children inspired her first book, "A Mother's Heart," sharing the daily struggles of parents of "normal" children and those with special needs. She and Philip wrote "If Philip Can, You Can Too" and she published it posthumously for Philip. It became an Amazon best seller in its category.

Raising a child with multiple craniofacial differences to excel against all the medical odds and graduate from high school is a story she shares around the globe. Grieving the loss of a child, picking up the mantle of his dream, and driving her surviving children forward is a challenge she inspires in her audience. She has traveled to countries from Sweden to South Africa, sharing her story, motivating her audience in faith, and relaying the joy that can come after grief. In 2014, she laid down her stethoscope and picked up the spear to fight human trafficking and set captives free, physically and spiritually, through the work of Love Without Reason.

info@lovewithoutreason.org l

ovewithoutreason.org

Serene Singh is a Rhodes Scholar at the University of Oxford pursuing a Doctoral degree in Criminology. Singh completed her postgraduate studies in Public Policy as the youngest student in Oxford’s global cohort of 100+ individuals. A Truman Scholar, Fulbright recipient, and an alumnus of the University of Colorado, Singh graduated with summa cum laude honors in Political Science and Journalism degrees and attained a minor in Leadership Studies.

Her work towards women’s empowerment also led her to create The Serenity Project 501c3 nonprofit to give confidence and self-love tools to women survivors, write a best-selling children’s book named The Queen Machine for young girls to develop confidence, win Victoria Secret’s GRL PWR campaign (women’s empowerment award), become a Diana Award recipient (UK’s highest humanitarian award) perform a keynote at university’s like Yale and California State Channel Islands, and serve as a Dalai Lama Fellow, US Selected Swiss Embassy Global Changemaker, and most recently, become a 2024-2025 John Lewis Fellow.

Her other hobbies include teaching students public speaking professionally with 3P Speech, painting, snowboarding, and videography. Singh plans to advance her passion for public service to one day serve on the United States Supreme Court.

Shamayne Olivia is an author, a motivational speaker and a difference maker Shamayne's authentic message guides women on a path towards personal and professional growth by fostering a renewed sense of passion, purpose, and confidence. Her workshop empowers women with the essential tools to get unstuck and move beyond the behaviors and patterns preventing them from realizing their full potential.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00: 6;24;] I just one thing about that situation is after he and I did the divorce and we went on our separate paths and we found our, we found what was best for us. He was killed in an accident four years after that.

[00:12:35] And I had a dream, Toby, it came to me in a dream. And, dreams are special to me, but I only have them occasionally where they speak to me. And this one spoke to me on a level that I had never had before. So I was dreaming that I was going for a walk with a coworker. I worked in corporate America, and we used to walk on our breaks and things like that.

[00:14:02] And I was sitting there and I when I looked into the mirror, I felt a warmth wash over me and it said, I heard these words in my head, and it said you were going to teach women to find shoes for their journey. And I was I immediately knew that was going to be my mission, my calling.

[00:25:17] And it was important for me to understand who my support group is and who are the people that I needed boundaries with. Because I had let a lot of people into my life that were not helping me. They were bringing me down or not encouraging. And, it was not good for my life.

[00:32:43] Well, this is going to be something I when when I first thought about this question, because this was one that you had mentioned that you might ask me, I did some thinking on it and I was trying to think of all those words that inspire people. And the one that came to me just this morning because, that's how a lot of things come to me is right when I need them. My word is women.

[guest bio] Shamayne’s transformational journey started with a simple question, “Who am I?” He decades-long quest to reclaim her identity led to profound insights and realizations that are the foundation of her business, Shoes that Fit Her Soul, LLC. Links mentioned in this episode:

 [guest]

https://www.instagram.com/shamayneolivia/ 

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Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Kristin Caruso is a writer, editor, and researcher. She has a background in public relations and print journalism. Before Kristin joined Gaming Historian (hosted by her husband, Norman Caruso), she was an award-winning columnist and reporter. Kristin has a bachelor's degree in communications from Simmons College. Previously, she co-hosted the “Let's Go to Court” podcast. Currently, Kristin and Norm are co-hosts of An Ole Timey Podcast.

Head to https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby to find all video interviews!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:07:11] Writers often struggle with giving up control of their work to others.

[00:09:47] An email was sent asking to join the novel critique group with a memoir, and it was agreed that it was fine. The chapter shared was so gripping that it was hard to believe it was nonfiction.

[00:23:40] learned the most about writing and interviewing from Kristin’s high school journalism teacher, Susan Massey.

[00:25:21] People not from the Midwest often assume that everyone there knows each other, but it’s actually a big place.

[00:25:35] Kansas City has a small-town feel where it seems like everyone knows everyone.

About Kristin Caruso:

Kristin Caruso co-hosts An Old Timey Podcast. The show allows Kristin to justify her late-night deep dives into art heists, royal drama and old timey mysteries. She is a writer, a mutt enthusiast, and is only occasionally inappropriate. 

Links mentioned in this episode:

Kristin Caruso:

An Ole Timey Podcast:

https://linktr.ee/OldTimeyPodcast

https://www.youtube.com/@GamingHistorian

https://www.instagram.com/kristinpittscaruso/

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

As a Reality existential therapist, Jacqueline Stuckey shares with her patients the "choices" they indeed have to improve their lives but may not realize it. She also helps patients assess how they understand their existence in this life. Jackie’s background is in drug and alcohol counseling. Sometimes all you might need is an ear to listen to your most intimate of moments. That’s where she comes in. 

Head to https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby to find all video interviews!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:02:46] I wanted to stop (drinking), but I didn't know how because I was surrounded by people who drank and nobody was interested in stopping and I couldn't get advice.

[00:05:26] I was in a domestic violence situation. So, I'm a survivor. That was hard to deal with. So, I was in two situations. I married two men who were know violent. And not only that, but they were also addicts. The second husband was an addict, and it kept setting me back. Every time he would use, you know, he would run away from the house. He would steal from the house, steal from me. I was working on my undergraduate at the time. And it's very difficult to go to school when you don't know where your husband is, or if he's dead or alive.

[00:08:12] It was God who heard my cry when I was drinking and down. I didn't know how to stop; no earthly measures could help me. So I remember praying one night, uh, actually it was one day for God to take my life because I just couldn't continue on that way.

[00:16:25] I wanted to be a counselor. I wanted to give back. And so, because she made the enrollment process so comfortable for me, it seems like God just opened the doors for me.

[00:23:10] It hides in the dark and it tells you can't talk to anybody about these things. But you can. And once you start talking about shame, when you expose it, but of course you must have a safe space to do it. Then, as you said, the healing can begin.

[00:29:35] People shouldn't be afraid to talk about tough, scary, unpleasant issues.

About Jacqueline Stuckey:

In her stunning memoir, Restoring the Southpaw: Abused Stalked Restored,

Jacqueline Stuckey shares that regardless of a life dominated by parental and partner mental and physical abuse, teen pregnancies, addiction, phobias, and anxiety, she came back from the brink of desperation, renewed her strength, and reclaimed a positive productive life beyond her wildest dreams. 

She restored her life.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Jacqueline Stuckey:

Jackie’s book on Amazon:

https://a.co/d/7Zafn8i

https://www.facebook.com/jackie.m.stuckey

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Katrina Butler is a certified social impact consultant and a restorative justice facilitator. She is also the author of a book written for children of incarcerated parents. Katrina is a resilient woman who transforms life’s adversities into opportunities that inspire others. She believes in paying it forward by advocating for second chances, trauma-informed care, alternative sentencing and giving voice to those individuals let down by society.

Head to https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby to find all video interviews!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Some of our fierce topics today:

[02:30] I was one (incarcerated parent) that was not lucky enough to have regular visits from my children, or even regular phone calls from my children because they had to take care of themselves. When I left, my 18-year-old daughter got custody of my three younger underage children and they were just trying to make it through life the same way I was on the inside.

[05:58] (My book) I took it from my lived experience, but it was just put in my heart to make the character a little boy and him losing his father. So it's about the initial shock of a child losing their parent. The mother is upset. He's saying how his house is just so quiet now, void of the father's presence. He doesn't want to play with his friends. And then in talking to one of his close friends, he finds she has a secret too.

[09:13] I left them at a very important part of their life. I missed my youngest daughter's graduation and that hurt me. Especially when I heard her during a phone conversation. She says, Mom, I never thought my graduation would be this way… And yeah, they are incarcerated in their own prison as well with dealing with their own emotions trying to figure things out without the parent there.

[00:10:32] trauma comes out in bits and pieces here and there as things happen or things are triggered.

[00:12:32] I took my very last check and incorporated my business, Different Souls of One Accord. I got the website, the logo, and it's been existing since. And I am a social impact, project consultant company where I collaborate with different nonprofits and I help build programs that focus on things that I believe will be instrumental to the successful re-entry for individuals. I also provide legal services for men on the inside as well.

[00:13:26] I use my lived experience to build programs, the infrastructure for programs that I know will communicate and speak the same language and support those coming home.

[00:19:54] It's okay to stand up and say, you know what, this doesn't feel good. This doesn't work for me. And you don't have to be ugly or rude about it.

About Katrina Butler:

Katrina Butler’s unwavering commitment to advocacy is deeply rooted in her strong spiritual beliefs. With the support of her network, family and close friends, she continues to uphold and promote her principles with integrity, compassion, and determination. Katrina firmly believes in the power of truth and the importance of acknowledging one’s roots. She is known to live by the words, “Never forget where you came from and stand on your truth no matter what.” It is only when we stand on our truth that we can foster personal growth and work toward the betterment of humanity.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Katrina Butler:

https://www.differentsouls1accord.com/

www.sofarsoclose.org

So far, So close: Children Coping with the Incarceration of their Loved Ones by Katrina McCutchen Butler

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Bex Gunn considers herself a nomad. She’s lived in 8 different states and seems to be able to find herself at home in just about any social circle. Music, tattooing, and poetry are the hobbies she’s most passionate about. But her biggest purpose is helping people through the human experience, with love and kindness.

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[02:45] The hardest decision that I ever had to make was leaving my kids behind because I was in active addiction and I had to leave the state because I couldn't stop using.

[14:45] Therapy is what helped me. And the reason I think that is because everybody that I know who has a form of addiction has an underlying mental illness that's not being treated. And I think that's, where we're failing as a society is because we're looking at mental illness and addiction as two separate things.

[20:38] People who are incarcerated need some sort of advocate for their basic human rights - to be treated like human beings.

[00:25:52] They're breeding recidivism just to make money. And, I don't think they're doing it just inside the correctional system. I think it's inside the judicial system too, because every time you take an inmate from El Paso County jail, (yeah, I'm calling them out) - every time they take an inmate from El Paso County Jail over to the courthouse, they get $100.

[00:29:50] I mean, honestly, it's like our country has gotten so big and full of itself that we've decided who gets to be human beings and who doesn't. And that's really disappointing.

[00:35:30] Accountability is super important, and it took a long time for me to get to that point where I was like, oh, I did this. I'm responsible for that because the only thing I can control, the only emotions and behaviors I can control is me. And so, I need to make sure that I control that because, like you said, if I'm putting out like anger and negative energy and vibrations, that actually attracts those kind of vibrations towards you.

[00:40:45] And you're really only living half of a life. You're not unlocked because you're still holding stuff in for yourself and you gotta get rid of that. You gotta shed that part of your life so you can build a new one. I've lived like eight lives in this lifetime.

About Bex Gunn

Bex Gunn is a unique individual, rich with wisdom from life’s lessons. A conversation with her will open your eyes. Here’s one of my favorite Bex quotes, “music is what feelings sound like.”

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Alexa Bigwarfe is a USA Today best-selling author and the founder and CEO of Write|Publish|Sell, a company dedicated to helping authors professionally self-publish and market their books. Her courses and training focus on author platform growth and creative ways to market books, especially for those who know nothing about marketing. She is also the founder and host of the Women in Publishing Summit and owns two publishing houses. In her spare time, she writes RomComs, usually set in Paris, France.

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[09:48] You can't run from it. I mean, trust me, I tried and one of my scenarios was I just kept myself as busy as I didn't realize that I was doing it, but until years of therapy showed me this, but I just kept myself so busy and just adding more and more and more. And, you know, stuffing it all down.

[12:58] When the event is super, super traumatic, it's really hard to find gratitude.

[16:59]But one of the things that it's ironic, God places people in your life that you just need to know, about a year and a half before she transferred and, became the commander of our organization, her 20 year old was killed in an accident. And, she had also lost a baby at birth. Even though I had left the military by this point in time, we stayed in touch. She was just a beacon of light for me.

[00:18:16] I have been very rich when it comes to finding people who have mentored me and helped me through different pieces of this journey, and I'm just, I'm so grateful to them, and so I try to also give that back to other people whenever the opportunity arises.

[00:24:05] I chose to not stay stuck where I was. And that was really scary because when you've lost a child, it's very hard to stop grieving because you feel like you're afraid that you may forget them or that you're doing a disservice. I named my first company after her Kat Biggie Press and it's kept her very, very present in everything that I do.

About Alexa Bigwarfe:

Alexa Bigwarfe is the founder of Kat Biggie Press, Write-Publish-Sell, and the Women In Publishing annual Summit.

Over the last decade she’s helped thousands of authors through webinars, conferences, coaching, and services. Her team learns from and improves, honing skills as experts in the publishing and book marketing world, with every project they touch.

Alexa is passionate about her role as an author advocate.

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https://writepublishsell.com/

https://womeninpublishingsummit.com/

https://katbiggiepress.com/

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In this episode, Michael Thompson discusses his writing path which began at the age of 13. Learn how one teacher’s attempt to devalue his doodling led to his creative mentor.

I pop into my local Barnes and Noble bookstore several times a month just to feel surrounded by books. When my trip happens to be on a weekend, I often come across local authors signing their books. A few weeks ago, I met Michael Thompson who told me, “Oh, I just sold the last copy of my book.”

I congratulated him and discovered that he has quite the writing story to tell and invited him to be on my podcast. I think you’ll delight in his journey as an author!

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[02:07] Becoming a full-time author is kind of a scary decision. It’s not exactly a traditional job and you wear a lot of hats. 

[03:54] I was always creating from a very, very young age, and I was always drawing in class and creating all kinds of different characters. Epic battles were filling the margins of my notebooks. I couldn't help myself. And some of my teachers didn't like that.

[04:36] It was at summer school that I met the greatest teacher that I'd ever had, Mr. A. He said, “we're going to make our own comic book”. And that was the first assignment. My mom contacted the principal and had me transferred into his class for the fourth grade. And it was there that I created Chicken Boy, my first ever character.

[07:48] I loved reading my stories with my grandfather, and he had a great voice. And I always really enjoyed writing something just so I could hear him read it to me in his voice.

[08:57] My grandpa passed away when I was in the middle of college. And the book hadn't come out yet. And I had just kind of a placeholder name for the currency. It was like, you know, kind of like your classic gold doubloon type looking thing. And I just called them pieces and I didn't know what to call them yet, but I wanted something unique. When it came time to do those final polishing up edits. I still needed a name for the currency. And I found a stack of my grandfather's edits and in his handwriting, he had circled that placeholder and I think he meant to write silver or something, but he abbreviated it SIV, S I V. So I named the little treasure pieces Siv.

[33:05] I love the research process of these books. I call it the real-world tether. Each story has this root in reality or in real-world legends. So if you happen to search any of the creatures that Winslow sees on his voyages, you'll be, really excited to see it's like a whole bunch of old newspaper articles detailing other people's alleged encounters with those same myths.

About Michael Thompson:

Michael Thompson is an award-winning author and illustrator from Northern Virginia. He began his career at thirteen with the publication of his action-packed Chicken Boy series. His debut YA portal fantasy novel, World of the Orb, earned international acclaim in the Feathered Quill Book Awards alongside his sea adventure novel, Winslow Hoffner's Incredible Encounters.

Michael continues to produce immersive stories across multiple genres while sharing the theme of plunging ordinary characters into extraordinary situations, with emphases on adventure, humor, and heart. 

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If you want to see life as an opportunity, meet Michael!

https://www.michaelthompsonbooks.com

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My guest today is my husband. Christian Dorr. While listeners may find it interesting to hear his perspective on my story, he has a powerful story of his own!  When I got out of prison, I had no intentions of ever getting married again. I was done with men, done with all the whole mess. I was just going to live my own little quiet life and then in walks Christian Dorr. And it became apparent that living a quiet life wasn’t in the cards for me. Chris is my biggest fan. 

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[03:08] Every part of my story has always been with one foot out the door. My future was always a confusing arc. There was no way to predict where my next step was going to take me.

[12:13] I took some nosedives along the way, got mixed up in drugs and alcohol for several years, and it destroyed a lot of my character and my will to live. It took me a long time, maybe 20 years to recover from just a couple of years of severe drug abuse.

[13:23] God stepped in at a point where I was so desperate, 38 cents in my pocket, about ready to die and didn't care if I did. And he changed everything. That story is one that it would take another few episodes of our podcast to explain, but ultimately God healed me nearly overnight.

[22:13] I don't remember where I read it somewhere about an old man, he fears no one. He lives his life day to day with his heart on his sleeve, and will say whatever is on his mind, because there's nothing to lose, because when you get to be old, you start realizing that every minute of every day is just, it's all borrowed time.

[00:52:36] John Manard was everything I expected. I talked to him on the phone, read his entire courtroom transcript, and had insight from my wife, who was an ex-lover and friend of his. He lived up to all of what I expected. He was charming, handsome, polite, and respectful. I needed him to know and you to know that I'm not afraid of John Manard, your history, or the event and you going on the run together for a 12-day vacation in Tennessee. There's nothing to be afraid of here.

About Christian Dorr:

Boston-Born and Maine-raised, Christian Dorr worked his dad’s commercial blueberry farm until joining the US Navy, which took him to exotic places as well as naval combat in Desert Storm aboard an aircraft carrier in 1991.  After the Navy, Chris worked on a commercial scallop dragger off the coast of Maine.  Chris claims to be the fastest scallop shucker on the East Coast, but substance abuse and a troubled marriage forced changes in Chris’ life.  He accepted Christian principles in 1995 and listens to God’s direction to this day. As a field service engineer for Intel, Chris traveled to Japan, Korea, Ireland, Israel and many more. Today, Chris supports and shares Toby’s vision to end wrongful and indiscriminate imprisonment imposed by an archaic law known as Felony Murder.

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http://christiandorr.com/

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William, my oldest son is 33 years old. He's autistic, blind, and non-verbal. I decided to do a marathon and when I told William, he wanted to participate. My daughter joined in and it became a family affair. We had to push William in a wheelchair because he’s blind and it would be too difficult to lead him. Most of the race seemed to be uphill. But we finished!

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[04:25] It was as if God had said “I'm going to send you some earth angels to come alongside you”. There were at least eight to twelve people who helped us up those hills. Pushed William up the hill. And one woman's name was Grace and she stayed with us the whole race.

[06:24] My daughter and a few of the people that she had met, cause she's a socialite. So she met plenty of people going up that Hill. And she sent help my way, “if you see a woman in a yellow sweatshirt, that's my mom.”

[08:05] And let me tell you something that was the best experience of that entire walk with all these different people. There was no competition because you got to understand that when you're doing a race, you're also getting timed. So everyone forgot about their time and helped us. I could do nothing but thank the Lord and just realize how much he is in my life.

[00:11:35] Discovering at 18 months old that William was autistic took me by surprise, and it took my husband by surprise. And, um, the one thing I really loved about our, our marriage and he's passed away. He just was a little cutie. And they said, you know, he's nonverbal. He's autistic. And I thought, okay. All right. Well, let's just go from here. And so we did all the things that every, uh, parent does when they find out they have a special needs child. But William's the one that led me. He, he really, he's the one that really showed me what he was willing to do and what he was not willing to do.

[00:14:40] Don't feel sorry for me. I think you have to look at how someone responds. I got a loving son.

About Karen Mitchell Grant:

Karen Grant is a Life Empowerment Coach, with Master’ Degrees in Conflict Management and Business Administration. After retiring from her management position as a Registered Nurse Karen began pursuing her passion, working with women. Nicknamed the Encourager that is what you will often find her doing. Karen loves to encourage women to know who they are and what they are capable of becoming. Karen believes in sharing her faith with others. Karen enjoys walking and training for 5K and 10K races with her two adult children. In 2024 she plans on running her first half-marathon.

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https://www.instagram.com/coaching_change_with_karen/

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Caroline Parody: Piano

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Trigger warning/disclaimer: This episode contains discussions about child abuse, divorce, and personal trauma, including personal experiences and journeys. The content may be emotionally intense and could be triggering for some individuals. If you find these discussions distressing, it may be advisable to skip this episode or listen with caution. Remember to prioritize your mental and emotional well-being.

Bathsheba Tolbert encourages women through inspiration, motivation and in building a sisterhood community!

Born the year before the major earthquake in California her dad said, “you should have told us you were coming. You were shaking everything up. You've been shaking everything up ever since.”

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[00:05:03] Step back out of the emotion of it, of the devastation and say, how can I grow from this? Because I don't want to be bitter. I don't want to destroy me. I don't want to be the victim in this, even though in a sense I, we were, but how can I grow from it?

[00:05:32] I believe vulnerability is a growing block. It's a block that you need in your life in order to step into who you are. You can't really become Bathsheba, Toby. You can't become that person unless you allow yourself to see where you're at, how that affected you, and be able to step into your next step of purpose.

[00:08:11] The things, the bad, horrible catastrophes in our lives, are here to help others. I mean, that's the only way I can be and, and see that because if I don't see it that way, the things that happen, I'm like, I would be the most. dreadful, bitter person, you know, you wouldn't even want to look at me cause it's just not worth all of that. I think it makes us grow into the beautiful people that we are. Scarred, flawed.

[00:11:22] I started journaling. I started writing them. What am I feeling? Why am I feeling it really delving in? What was that trigger for me? And the more I wrote, then I began to speak it, Oh, okay, this is why I am behaving this way, because. All of these other things, I became more aware and it's scary. Honestly, that first time of writing down those thoughts, I cried every single night.

[00:26:43] Before I tell you who's Bathsheba, I'll say this. I was born the year right before the major earthquake in California. And a month later I was born and my dad said, you should have told us you were coming. You were shaking everything up. You've been shaking everything up ever since.

About Bathesheba Tolbert:

Many people have been through hard times in life, and each one is an opportunity for growth and transformation. Not only can we become stronger through hard times, but our tough experiences can help us find ways to encourage those around us.

Bathsheba Tolbert is passionate about helping people heal and grow through vulnerability. She has her own story of overcoming adversity and helping countless others to embrace their broken sides and find strength in their vulnerability. Bathsheba is also a musician, singer, and mental health advocate with an extensive following who started singing professionally on national television at 21.

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Bathesheba Tolbert:

https://linktr.ee/TheRealBathSheba

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Trigger warning/disclaimer: This episode contains discussions about death, including personal experiences and journeys. The content may be emotionally intense and could be triggering for some individuals. If you find these discussions distressing, it may be advisable to skip this episode or listen with caution. Remember to prioritize your mental and emotional well-being.

“And so she (our daughter Anna who was nearly her college graduation) signed off her Facebook that morning with four words, “getting near the end.” That evening there was a knock on the door and two men dressed in black were standing there. It was the coroner and a deputy sheriff. That was their uniform. I didn't know who they were. I thought they were police. I thought they were fundraising…”

-       Cathy Harvey, creator of “from Cathy's Heart”, memoir author, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversation with Toby.

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 [11:32] Your daughter was riding her bike on Highway 45 and was hit by a car and killed.

[14:13] And I thought about the girls. They got on the bus this morning with a mom and they got off without one.

[20:31] We forgive him.

[23:48] But then we had the funeral, and then the next day, it's like the dust settles. Everybody goes home, and it's quiet, and the company went home, and Stephen's in the basement working on the computer, and I heard that still small voice say, call the mom. Call her right now and tell her it’s okay to have a happy mother’s day.

[23:48] But then we had the funeral, and then the next day,it's like the dust settles. Everybody goes home, and it's quiet, and the company went home, and Stephen's in the basement working on the computer, and I heard that still small voice say, call the mom. Call her right now and tell her it’s okay to have a happy mother’s day.

[00:36:05] We just had so much compassion for them because the Saturday after Anna was killed, my husband and I had a conversation and we concluded that they had the harder burden to bear. Their son killed a single mom of two little girls.

[00:47:37] And (the judge) said, “Your attorneys have explained to me the meeting and the letters you wrote. And in all my years on the bench, I have never heard of forgiveness. You have restored my enthusiasm for my job.”

About Cathy Harvey:

Cathy Harvey’s adult daughter Anna was riding her bike home from college. Only 2 miles from home, she was on gravel biking against traffic, when a driver got distracted and hit her almost head on. Anna’s daughters were 7 and 10 years old. It was Anna’s birthday. She was 4 classes away from finishing her college degree.

Her face went through the passenger side windshield. Some accounts say she died instantly, another said 15 minutes. A woman stopped and held her hand while she died. A truck driver stopped and said he was a first responder, and told the woman could leave if she liked, he’d take over. He warned her this would be hard. The woman stayed.

Anna’s family did not retaliate with hatred or revenge. They forgave the driver and even became friends with the driver’s entire family, sharing vacations and holidays together.

At the time this episode is released, it will be 11 years since the accident.

Cathy journaled most of the journey. Together, Cathy and the driver’s mother have been speaking about this experience to groups all over the country.

Cathy is working on a memoir. Cathy’s website is titled 

from Cathy's Heart

purpose. forgiveness. friendship. hope.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Cathy Harvey:

https://cathyharveypurpose.life/

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The symbol of the artichoke has great meaning for Judy in her teaching and writing. As she works with families, she sees that frequently only the outer edges are exposed, which can be prickly and sometimes bitter to the taste. But, as you expose the artichoke - and people - to warmth, caring, and time, gradually the leaves begin to open and expose the real treasure–the heart.

Judy has written more than 20 books, and hundreds of articles and speaks internationally on family, parenting, and relationship issues, including communication, encouragement, and end-of-life.

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[05:30] My main passion has always been gathering stories. One of the things we found with the Montana Storykeepers is that when we allowed someone to tell their story, an end-of-life story, their pain went down. Their transition was so much easier, and I do think that people don't fear death, they fear being forgotten.

[07:37] My book is not how to write a memoir, but why you should and helping you narrow down into that particular pearl on a strand pearls. So you don’t get overwhelmed by the whole necklace.

[11:34] So my favorite color is red, and it's very powerful and a little story … When my mom was in a hospice unit, assisted living, I would wear bright red lipstick and I would always kiss her on her forehead. So, every CNA, every doctor, every cleaner that came in thought, “Oh, she is well loved. Somebody's in here. I better take good care of her.”

[15:43] I was walking to the mailbox with my 15-year-old, he's now 40. And he started telling me something and I said, “Andy, stop. I have listened to problems all day long. Go for a walk”. And he touched my arm, which in our family is a signal. ‘This is important to me’. He said, “Who do you want me to tell my problems to?” And I went in the next day and quit.

About Judy Helm Wright:

Judy is a life educator, family coach, and keynote speaker who has written more than 20 books, hundreds of articles and speaks internationally on family, parenting and relationship issues, including communication, encouragement, and end of life. She also focuses on personal issues like anxiety, depression, confidence, and self-esteem and works with many small and large organizations–from Head Start to child care resource centers.

Judy is a certified Pet Grief Coach who takes pride in her work with Animal Human Connection. She has written extensively on the topic of grieving and offers guidance, counseling, and communal sharing for many grief clients.

Artichoke Press is not Judy’s only self-starter project. Judy has owned and managed numerous small businesses. She and her husband Dwain, alongside their six children and foster kids, worked family businesses in order to teach them Responsibility, Respect & Resiliency.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Judy Helm Wright:

https://artichokepress.com/

http://memoirlifestorywriting.com/

Judy’s Book:

https://gracepointpublishing.com/bookstore/books-cards/write-your-family-story-leaving-a-living-legacy/

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“It isn't that I had it all figured out, it's that I just focused on the next right step.”

 - Charli Hoffman, CEO of Time Hackers Unite, Founder of Sparkle Warriors Book Club, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

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Some of our fierce topics today:

[04:58] At 13, I came home from school one day and my mom had put all of my stuff in garbage bags on the porch and locked the house and told me I didn't live there anymore.

[06:39] Books were my salvation.

[07:49] I was in so many unsafe situations, but I could make someone laugh.

[10:11] There's great value in putting yourself in situations where you're not the smartest person in the room.

[20:09] It isn't that I had it all figured out, it's that I just focused on the next right step, just the next right step…

About Charli Hoffman:

“I’m a Clarity Coach & Meditation Teacher as well as a survivor of sex trafficking, homelessness, child abuse, and domestic violence. I’m also an adoptee and suicide survivor living with cPTSD, anxiety, chronic illness & ADHD. I teach people about designing a life where they can thrive no matter their trauma, capacity, and background.”

Charli (they/them) is a non-binary queer Clarity Coach, Meditation Teacher, Speaker and International Book Club Host. They are the CEO of Time Hackers Unite, a community of humans committed to exploring their relationships with our only nonrenewable resource: TIME, and the Founder of Sparkle Warriors Book Club which supports over 500 humans on their personal growth journeys.

They have reached over 250,000 people on TikTok teaching tips to navigate humanity while healing from chronic stress and trauma. They have an intuitive gift for asking questions; value psychological safety and personal integrity; and help ambitious humans to get clear and confident in their voice & direction so they can bring their dreams to life.

Charli's goal is to help to eradicate hunger & homelessness through the education and empowerment of their fellow humans and in the creation of a life skills university.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Charli Hoffman:

https://www.facebook.com/timehackersunite

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

“And the point is, you can do it. You have more strength than you think you do. You can go through these tough situations. You move through that adversity, and you move through those struggles. And you keep going.” 

Head to https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby to find all video interviews!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Some of our fierce topics today:

 [03:28] It shouldn't be called breaking up, because that implies a quick break. It's more like a taffy pull.

[04:50] I discovered a female court of writers in the late 17th century.

[09:31] Crazy David was my boyfriend who faked his own death and then showed up at my house in the middle of the night a couple weeks later. 

[13:22] I was cocktail waitressing in LA at the world-famous Palomino Club and I waited on Manuel (designer to the stars) and we fell in love and got married and had a baby.

[17:19] But it felt if I didn’t leave him I would get cancer and die – it was such a toxic unhealthy moment.

Susan Godwin is a fervent educator, writer, and freelance artist whose world has always been steeped in books, from Harold and the Purple Crayon; she couldn’t resist drawing on her bedroom wall, no matter how many reprimands; to her first job as a library book mender in her Shaker Heights High School basement to teaching English at the prestigious University School of Nashville. A former Oxford scholar, Godwin has received writing awards from the University of Michigan, Middle Tennessee State University, and Bread Loaf School of English. Though writing is her true passion, she is also a visual artist working primarily in oils and pastels. Her home is outside of Nashville, in Dickson, TN, on the banks of a winding Tennessee river, in a hayloft renovated by her sweet, sexy husband, Tony; with help from their rotty, Roady! 

Links mentioned in this episode:

Susan J. Godwin:

https://susanjgodwin.com

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

“And the point is, you can do it. You have more strength than you think you do. You can go through these tough situations. You move through that adversity, and you move through those struggles. And you keep going.”

-       Pat Black-Gould, Ph.D., clinical psychologist award-winning children’s book author, fiction author, playwright, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

Head to https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby to find all video interviews!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Some of our fierce topics today:

[09:19] The Paperclip project, is a teacher’s desire to show her students just how big a number is.

[11:43] Turning a children’s book into a ballet performance…

[13:04]Creating a staged production with a dramatic reading of the book, an artistic collage, music and dance.

[14:42] Pat discusses her work as a prison psychologist and discusses the problems faced by those who never had a mentor figure to look up to. 

About Pat Black-Gould, Ph.d:

Pat Black-Gould, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist and an award-winning children’s book author, fiction author, and playwright. Her children’s book The Crystal Beads, Lalka’s Journey, tells the story of a hidden child of the Holocaust. The book is the recipient of the Moonbeam Children’s Book Award, the Northern Lights Book Award, and the Vinnie Ream Award. Pat is currently turning her book into a stage performance featuring dance and music composed specifically for her work.

Pat and co-author Steve Hardiman will publish their first novel in 2024. All The Broken Angels is a coming-of-age story set during the Vietnam War era.

As a psychologist, Pat has worked on an inpatient Deaf unit and, along with co-author Dr. Neil Glickman, published in the field of mental health and Cultural Deafness.   Pat has also worked as a neuropsychologist and a forensic psychologist in an inpatient forensic unit and at a men’s state correctional prison, working primarily with maximum security level inmates.

In addition, Pat worked for the Veteran’s Administration with a special focus on Vietnam Veterans. She was also the coordinator for the LGBTQ+ veteran population. 

In her early career, Pat was a director and playwright in professional theater and ran a summer stock theater company and a murder mystery theater company. 

Links mentioned in this episode:

Pat Black-Gould:

https://www.patblackgould.com/

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Head to https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby to find all video interviews!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

“The women of Framingham (Prison) sought a way out and their struggles gave them dignity. I could hear their voices speaking out of the darkness.”

 - Jean Trounstine, author, activist, professor emerita at Middlesex Community College in Lowell, Massachusetts, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

Some of our fierce topics today:

[02:57] I began working with people in prison and, it changed me, it turned me into a prison activist, and it turned me into a writer.

[04:50] If my students tackled Shakespeare, a writer they thought beyond reach, they would also be learning to take on what was most difficult in life.

[30:33] My new book is called Mother Love and it's a book of short stories about ten different women whose child killed someone.

[38:35] Poetry comes to you when you need to say something that comes so deep from the heart that you can't say it unless you do it in a poem. 

More about Jean Trounstine and her work:

Jean Trounstine

I prefer to talk about how I became an activist, working in a prison, writing books to change things. 

I have written 6 and write currently as well for the Boston Institute for Nonprofit Journalism.

Shakespeare Behind Bars

I believed that if my students tackled Shakespeare, a writer they thought beyond reach, they would also be learning to take on what was most difficult in life.

The women yearned for change and growth.

Eventually the program took on a philosophy: art has the power to redeem lives.

I came to realize that most women in prison are not dangerous. What characterizes them more than anything else is their heartache. Instead of frightening me they seemed lost, with tragic lives.

I knew nothing of the fellowship that exists in prison. Women inmates seek relationships, thrive on it.

It is this prison community that sustains women who do time. It is this community that taught me to value the prisoner’s lives, to like and respect them, and to understand that they are more than news stories tucked away on a back page in our local papers.

While it is true that prison is a repressive environment, the one who offers hope in the classroom has the potential to effect change.

The women of Framingham sought a way out, and their struggles gave them dignity.

I could hear their voices… speaking out of the darkness.

Boy With a Knife

The United States was a county that set controversial boundaries where childhood ended and adulthood began in terms of criminal responsibility. Until 2005, the US was the only nation that still sanctioned the death penalty for youth.

These boys and girls, barely having earned their driver’s license, too young to vote, too young to legally buy alcohol or cigarettes, are locked away with adult men and women. This in spite of the fact that 90 percent of juveniles, even those convicted of murder, grow out of criminal behavior as they age.

Putting young people in state prisons essentially silences them.

Sending juveniles to adult prisons doesn’t make us safer.

The international standard for incarceration of juveniles for the most serious crimes is ten or fifteen years prior to parole eligibility.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Jean Trounstine:

https://www.concordfreepress.com/request-a-book-motherlove

https://www.jeantrounstine.com/

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/ 

“For eight years, I was ashamed of my story. I learned that my story is freeing. Other people need to know that in telling their own story you can take your power back. And it takes away the power of those who are holding your story against you. Don't be the person others believe you should be just because you're a felon. 

I am enough. And so are you.”

-        Tanaine Jenkins, best-selling author, TedX Speaker, Director of The Florida Safety Coalition, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby 

Head to https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby to find all video interviews!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Some of our fierce topics today:

[03:49] Sentences don’t end when you get out of prison…

[08:43] I believed what society said about me. But when you change your mindset, everything changes.

[10:59] A person that fails to plan, plans to fail.

[13:52] The children of incarcerated parents need just as much help as their parents do.

[18:01] I help others through the process so they never have to feel like they are not enough.

About Tanaine Jenkins:

After giving 10 years of her life to the Florida Department of Corrections, Tanaine Jenkins has dedicated her voice to shining a light on the Second Sentence that Returning Citizens face once they are released from confinement. Tanaine is the best-selling author of From Prison to President: 7 Ways to Succeed in Your Second Chance, the President of Everything I Am LLC, the CEO of The Loc’d Line, a member of the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition Policy Council, and a 2022 TEDx Jacksonville speaker. She has also been featured in Forbes, on the CW Channel and PBS. Through her company, Everything I Am, Tanaine has helped hundreds of returning citizens and justice involved individuals find their 'Why' and learn the power of self-forgiveness.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Tanaine Jenkins:

https://www.tanainejenkins.com/

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

“I feel like it's gotten to the point where we're so scared of crossing a boundary that we just say nothing.”

-        Hannah Rumsey, developmental editor & writing coach for Sara Connell Coaching, Inc., creator and host of the podcast “Friends Missing Friends”, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Find the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Hannah Rumsey talks with those who have experienced the death of friends, grief experts, and more, to normalize the complex grief of losing a friend in a world that often doesn’t understand. “I lost a dear friend several years ago. Now, my goal is to create a loving community of people who know what it’s like to grieve a friend. It’s a specific, unique type of loss, and I think it’s important that we come together and talk about it. If you’re grieving or missing a friend, I’m here for you. I understand.”

About Hannah Rumsey:

Hannah studied Creative Writing at VCU and Northwestern University and has a Certificate in Editing from the University of Washington. In her spare time, she loves podcasting, watching movies (and complaining about how the book was better), filmmaking, and all things comedy. She lives in Chicago, IL. 

Some of our fierce topics today:

[05:52] Hannah’s podcast is about the beautiful relationship between friends.

[09:04 ]Learn how her friend composed her podcast theme song.

[13:59] None of us can avoid death. It's just beautiful that you provide an outlet for such a difficult and ignored topic. Nobody wants to talk about death, but when I listen to your podcast, I hear beautiful stories that inspire me.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Hannah Rumsey

https://www.friendsmissingfriends.com/

https://www.hannahrumsey.com/

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/ 

Head to https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby to find all video interviews!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Natasha Dasher is on a life mission to help Returning Citizens realize their true potential. She is an appointed Commissioner for Returning Citizens and Re-Entry Affairs and the co-chair of the DC Democratic Caucus for Returning Citizens.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[7:38] Natasha started the ButterFly village to help children deal with social media and the stigma of having an incarcerated parent whose case is in the news.

[14:07] Choosing not to be a victim by taking ownership of your poor decisions.

[19:14] The power of community.

[27:42] The importance of a re-entry plan begins the first day you’re incarcerated.

[43:31] The freedom of owning the remote.

Links mentioned in this episode:

MORCA (Mayor’s Office on Returning Citizen Affairs) https://communityaffairs.dc.gov/morca

The Butterfly Village https://thebflyvillage.com/

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Find all interviews at https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

In this episode, Brittany Means discusses her new memoir, Hell If We Don’t Change Our Ways.

About Brittany Means:

Brittany Means is a writer and editor living in Albuquerque, NM. A graduate of Iowa's MFA Nonfiction Writing Program, Means has worked with Inara Verzemnieks and Kiese Laymon. She has received several awards for her work, including the Magdalena Award, the Herodotus Award, and the Grace Paley Fellowship at Under the Volcano.

Notes from Toby: 

I have long been a fan of Jeannette Walls. Her memoir Glass Castle gave me permission to tell my own crazy story. Today, I’m lucky enough to live within an hour’s drive of Jeannette and so I’ve been able to connect with her at several book events. A few months ago, Jeannette posted on Facebook a photo of her with a young college student, and shared the story that many years ago Jeannette was speaking at a college when a girl came up to her for a photo and shared that she wanted to be an author also. Today, that woman, Brittany Means, just published an amazing memoir. Jeannette reached out to me and said, “Toby, I think Brittany could be one of your fierce women!” I immediately scheduled her interview. Of course, I also bought the memoir – and you should too! Another powerful life story by a talented woman author!

Key Topics and Time Stamps:

[6:57] What did putting your story out into the world feel like?

[10:24] Who has been your most important mentor?

[18:58] Brittany talks about the adjustment from being homeless to being a college student.

Links: 

If you want to be empowered in your life, listen to Brittany!

https://www.brittanymeans.com

https://www.brittanymeans.com/book

https://www.instagram.com/brittanymeansit/

Support Fierce Conversations with Toby:

Toby Dorr:

https://www.patreon.com/fierceconversations

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https://linktr.ee/tobydorrbooks

https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby

https://www.instagram.com/tobydorr/

https://www.facebook.com/TobyDorrAuthor

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GP Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/ 

Head to https://www.youtube.com/@fierceconversationswithtoby to find all video interviews!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

http://www.bfa-ministry.org/

Gina Hanna founded Beauty for Ashes Ministry with her husband Derk in 2009. Their vision was to drastically reduce recidivism in prisons across the United States by providing a biblically based Christ-centered program for prisoners and ex-offenders. Her vision for the ministry came from her own personal struggle with drug addiction which led to her incarceration in 1998. Through her journey to true freedom and healing, she discovered her life’s mission and now uses her story to help and encourage.  Beauty for Ashes provides programming in prisons in Missouri and Kansas as well as operates a residential recovery center for women, Shielded by Faith Recovery.

Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

When we know the hard choice is right, in a way, it's not hard because we can't not do it.

-        Kimberly Braun, TEDx speaker, bestselling author, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

Join us as Kimberly Braun shares her extraordinary life journey with us. Kimberly discusses her challenging decision to join a monastery at the age of 24, becoming a cloistered nun, and the emotional difficulty of leaving the monastery after ten and a half years. She recounts a profound spiritual experience that led her to question her vows, ultimately receiving permission from the Pope to leave. Kimberly also reflects on the transition back to the secular world, the overwhelming noise and technological changes, and the emotional challenges of reintegrating with her family. Together, we will learn about the transformative power of healing.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:05] Introduction

[1:57] Joining the Monastery 

Kimberly discusses the hardest decision she ever had to make, which was joining the monastery at the age of 24. 

[06:59] Leaving the Monastery and Inner Illumination

Kimberly shares the moment of inner illumination in her hermitage in August of the year 2000, leading to her decision to leave the monastery after 10 and a half years.

[20:58] Changes in Childhood and Parental Busyness

Reflecting on the differences in childhood experiences, emphasizing a shift in parental availability and busyness.

[23:10] Mentors and Spiritual Exploration

Kimberly’s perspective on mentorship, including finding wisdom in various people and spiritual experiences.

[24:15] - Discovering Self Summit

Introduction to Kimberly Braun's online summit, "Discovering Self," with details about the summit's format, contributors, and the broad theme of self-discovery applicable to all individuals.

[33:06] - Overcoming Challenges and Kimberly’s new book Miracles in the Naked Light.

About Kimberly Braun:

Kimberly Braun, impelled from earliest childhood experiences, has spent over a decade as a monastic nun exploring the path of Presence. With a master’s in theology, she lives to inspire others to connect to, and live from, Divine Love at their center.

She is a TEDx speaker and former meditation faculty at the renowned Omega Institute. Kimberly’s communication skills ignite transformation on all levels serving others to lives of greater freedom and joy.

Kimberly also has three books currently in publication, Love Calls: Insights of a Former Carmelite Nun, Beloved Found: Poems from the Source, and her latest release Miracles in the Naked Light: The Extraordinary Life in Every Moment.

Curious by nature, deeper questions have been a big part of Kimberly's life from those moments forward. And these deeper questions lead her presently to believe that Source/Spirit/Life Force are within our very center (figuratively.) Yes, in this LOVE, people live and move and have their being.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Kimberly Braun and Toby Dorr will both be speaking at the Discovering Self Summit  (hosted by Kimberly), happening virtually Friday January 5th through Sunday January 7th. Find out more and get your tickets here!

Kimberly Braun:

Website  

All Books by Kimberly Braun on Amazon  

Miracles in the Naked Light Audiobook

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

 Trigger warning/disclaimer:

This episode contains discussions about cancer, including personal experiences and journeys. The content may be emotionally intense and could be triggering for individuals who have had personal experiences with cancer or are sensitive to health-related topics. If you find these discussions distressing, it may be advisable to skip this episode or listen with caution. Remember to prioritize your mental and emotional well-being.

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

“Even before my oncologist told me “You don't have cancer anymore”, I had to learn how to thrive.

Once I focused on doing things that I love to do, and reading, and being in the sun, and living, and smiling, and laughing... a month and a half, two months later, my doctor's like, 'There's nothing there.’”          

-       Tekquiree Spencer, cancer thriver, actress, filmmaker, host and creator of the Thrive Beyond Cancer Summit, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:00] Introduction: Tekquiree Spencer discusses her background, the Thrive Beyond Cancer Summit, and her work as a wellness advocate.

[02:11] A Difficult Decision: The hardest decision Tekquiree had to make, related to her cancer diagnosis and treatment choices.

[04:54] Impact of Cancer Diagnosis: Being diagnosed with stage 4 inflammatory breast cancer, including Tekquiree’s emotional experiences and challenges.

[14:21] Trauma Leading to Positive Change: Tekquiree reflects on her cancer diagnosis as a traumatic event that led to positive change, shaping her perspective on life, purpose, and the importance of community support.

[19:41] The Birth of a Healer: Tekquiree on her son Jace was born three weeks after her Stage IV Inflammatory Breast Cancer diagnosis and discussing the special significance of his name, which means "healer."

[21:45] Brand and Programs: The brands of Tekquiree, including the nonprofit Thrive Beyond Cancer, her company Thrive by Tekquiree, and her role as a wellness advocate.

[26:04] Life after Cancer: The impact of cancer on Tekquiree’s life and the importance of living fully, being less afraid, and embracing the call to thrive.

About Tekquiree Spencer:

Tekquiree Spencer, actress, filmmaker, wellness coach, advocate, host and creator of the Thrive Beyond Cancer Summit, and a cancer thriver, faced a pivotal moment in life at the age of 34. Pregnant with her son Jace, whose name signifies healer, she received a Stage IV Inflammatory Breast Cancer diagnosis. Miraculously, by the grace of God, she not only welcomed a healthy baby boy but also achieved healing four months later. Tekquiree attributes her recovery to a combination of faith in God, unwavering community support, and a comprehensive approach that merged holistic and conventional medicine.

For those facing their own struggles, Tekquiree extends a comforting message: you are not alone. Someone has traversed a similar path before you, ready to provide guidance. There exists a supportive community eager to embrace, love, inspire, and instill hope. Regardless of the burdens one carries—be it feelings of isolation, fatigue, unheard voices, or overwhelming fear—every moment is a precious gift.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Tekquiree Spencer:

Thrive Beyond Cancer

Tekquiree's Website

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/ 

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

"The lost art of what's been going on is people have forgotten how to have a conversation and how to say, 'Can I help you?'"

 - Laura Spetter, 14-year Air Force veteran and today’s guest along with Geoff Spetter, a 21-year Army veteran, on “Fierce Conversations with Toby”

In this episode of “Fierce Conversations with Toby,” we dive deep into the world of veterans' support with guests Geoff and Laura Spetter, both military veterans with compelling stories and a shared commitment to making a difference. Geoff reflects on his journey from being a forward observer for field artillery to transitioning into the IT world, and how it led him to co-host "The Veterans Show" on WCBM. Laura shares her passion for helping veterans navigate the complexities of the VA system. Together, they emphasize the significance of building a strong veteran community, bridging gaps in healthcare and employment opportunities, and inspiring individuals to join their mission of support. This heartfelt and informative conversation offers valuable insights into the challenges veterans face and the power of collaboration and compassion in improving their lives.

Toby Dorr, our host and creator, is married to a Navy veteran, the step-mother of another Navy veteran, and the sister to a Marines and Army veteran. Happy Veteran's Day and thank you all for your service. “Fierce Conversations with Toby” proudly supports our veterans.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:00] Introduction.

[04:03] The Veterans Show: Laura and Geoff shares insights into co-hosting "The Veterans Show" on WCBM, a platform for veterans to share their stories and experiences.

[6:10] Challenges Faced by Veterans: veterans' struggle with navigating VA systems, the sharing of their experiences, the need for greater awareness of their plight, and their difficulties reintegrating into society.

[09:13] The Struggle for Veterans' Healthcare: touching on the unmet expectations of veterans regarding medical care after writing a "blank check" for their country, the complexities and challenges of the VA system, and the need for improved medical care without excessive bureaucracy and medication reliance.

[19:35] Inconsistencies in Veterans' Benefits Across States: the lost art of human interaction in the digital age and the mission to create a community that makes a positive impact, with a whimsical mention of a bird-feeding habit.

[26:38] The Power of Courage, Trust, and Fierce Conversations: the power of words and meaningful conversations, emphasizing the importance of addressing difficult topics openly and honestly

[28:32] Outro.

About Laura and Geoff Spetter:

Laura, an Air Force veteran, served for 14 years as a personalist, excelling in regulations and assisting others. Geoff, a U.S. Army veteran, served for nearly 21 years, with the first seven years as a forward observer for field artillery. He later transitioned to an IT career in 2003 after losing his hearing. Both share a strong connection to the military and its importance in their lives.

You can hear Geoff and Laura every Saturday at 1800 – 1900/6 PM – 7 PM (Eastern) as they host “The Veteran's Show” on WCBM 680, Baltimore's Talk Radio.

Laura and Geoff’s mission is to end veteran suicide.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Geoff and Laura Spetter:

Listen live to “The Veteran’s Show”

Email Laura and Geoff: veterans.show@gmail.com

Call-In Line for “The Veteran’s Show”: 800-922-6680
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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

“A road can always be found between two hearts.”

-        Leslie Ahmadi, language coach, cross-cultural/diversity consultant, author of the upcoming book Road Between Two Hearts: A Black American Bride Discovers Iran, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:05] Introduction to the Podcast: Understanding how different cultures, races, and countries can come together to create an extended family.

[01:05] Discussing Favorite Color: Toby and Leslie discuss Leslie's favorite color, brown, and how it became her favorite due to it complementing her complexion. 

[08:24] Leslie's Memoir: Leslie talks about her upcoming memoir titled Road Between Two Hearts: A Black American Bride Discovers Iran.

[21:11] Returning to the USA: Leslie shares her difficult decision to return to the United States from Iran and how it impacted her family, including her husband and children. 

[26:05] Persian Culture: not being aware of certain customs and how a lack of awareness can lead to misunderstandings.

[27:21] Living with Extended Family: Leslie’s experience of living in Iran and staying with her husband's family before moving into their own house. 

[28:44] Living in a Multi-Generational Family: Toby and Leslie discuss their shared experience of living in multi-generational families. 

[30:05] Leslie Ahmadi Offers Advice on Cross-Cultural Relationships: the importance of understanding one's own values and recognizing cultural differences. 

About Leslie Ahmadi:

Long before she could speak another language or have a sophisticated discussion on “cross-cultural relations,” Leslie Powell, an African American child from Connecticut, was fascinated by the glimpses of other worlds surrounding her. By the time she was four, she had staged her first imaginary flamenco dance, mastered half a dozen imaginary foreign languages, and traveled to countless made-up foreign lands. Her favorite recording artist was Harry Belafonte, known for his colorful collection of folk songs from across the world. 

She studied Latin and Spanish in school, traveled to Italy, Spain, and Mexico in her secondary and post-secondary years, and embarked on a career as a language instructor of Spanish and English as a Second Language. While pursuing a Ph. D. in foreign language and culture education at The Ohio State University (1987), she met her future husband Mahmoud, a doctoral student in agronomy and gentleman from Iran who would eventually redirect her path from “established Spanish professor in America” to “adventurer in the Middle East.”  After four years of living and working with him as an English language professor and coach in Iran, Leslie’s own cultural experience had profoundly affected her.  She realized then that, upon her family’s return to the States, she would no longer be content with teaching language alone.  Instead, she would actively pursue the career of a cross-cultural educator, trainer and consultant.  She also knew that a book of her cross-cultural adventures was already brewing inside her.

After being hired as “Director of Spanish for the Professions” at her alma mater The Ohio State University, her post led her to several other opportunities to present on cross-cultural issues both domestically and abroad.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Lesli Ahmadi:

Website

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Welcome to Fierce Conversations with Toby—where stories of struggle, strength, and transformation take center stage. I’m Toby Dorr, and I believe that every conversation has the power to change lives. Here, we dive deep into the raw, unfiltered moments that shape us, challenge us, and ultimately, set us free. From personal reflections to compelling interviews, join me on a journey of fierce honesty, courageous healing, and bold transformations. Let’s turn pain into power and conversations into catalysts for change.

Watch the video here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:42] -   choose the second definition (of fierce) showing a heartfelt and powerful intensity.

[1:25] - The average person can make a difference and be part of righting a wrong.

[2:05] - I am not a small talk kind of woman.

[2:35] - My life's mission is to empower women, leading them to embrace the hard things in their lives and break free from whatever prison confines them.

About Your Host, Toby Dorr:

Toby Dorr is a transformational speaker, best-selling author, and the courageous voice behind Fierce Conversations with Toby. Known for her powerful journey from incarceration to inspiration, Toby’s story is one of radical redemption and fierce determination. Through her memoir, Living with Conviction, her poetry collection, and her transformative workbooks in The Unleashed Series, Toby guides others on a path of deep introspection and personal change. She brings her lived experience and fierce grace to every episode, creating a space for honest, impactful conversations that challenge, heal, and inspire. Toby’s mission is to help women break free from their past and reclaim their lives, one fierce conversation at a time.

Learn more about Toby:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Watch the video interview here!  

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

“I have a weekly conversation with my mentees. We do once a month face to face. And it really makes a difference.

People know that you care.”

 - Marla Smith, Christian care provider, clinical researcher, mentor for the Welcome Home Reentry Program and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:05] Introduction to the podcast and guest Marla Smith.

[02:17] Marla's early life crossroads and personal growth.

[03:24] Marla's decision to pursue a master's degree in Christian counseling.

[06:05] Marla's experience as a volunteer and being named Volunteer of the Year.

[11:10] The challenges faced by women reentering society after incarceration.

[17:14] The importance of successful reintegration into society.

[17:33] Early support for individuals reentering society.

[18:05] The role of mentoring and support programs in reentry.

[19:20] Challenges faced by individuals upon release from prison.

[21:05] The value of group meetings and peer support for formerly incarcerated women.

[24:05] The "Fearfully and Wonderfully Made Ministry" and its mission to educate young girls about puberty and their bodies.

[29:03] Outro to this episode.

About Marla Smith:

A mother and grandmother, Marla Smith also provides Christian Care and performs clinical research. As part of Catholic Charities’ Welcome Home Reentry Program Marla mentors previously incarcerated women. Additionally, through her Fearfully and Wonderfully Made ministry, Marla educates young girls about puberty with a special emphasis on their bodies as they prepare for menstruation.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Marla Smith:

Website

____________________________________

Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Content warning: This episode discusses the journey of one our guests to recovery with an eating disorder. While this episode, and all episodes of Fierce Conversations with Toby, are designed to facilitate healing for all, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Everything happens for a reason. And five years from now, you'll look back and finally understand that very reason. It's not happening to you, it's happening for you. It will all be okay in the end. And if it's not okay now, then it's not the end."

- Amanda Plasse, today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

Lisa Plasse and her daughter, Amanda Plasse, open up about their journey through Amanda's mental health challenges, particularly her battle with an eating disorder. Lisa describes the rollercoaster of emotions and treatments Amanda went through over 18 months, leading to a transformative experience with dialectical behavior therapy (DBT). Amanda shares her future aspirations of graduating with a psychology degree, attending grad school for social work, and ultimately establishing a comprehensive treatment center to address multiple aspects of mental health in one place. Their conversation underscores the importance of open dialogue, reducing stigma, and holistic support systems, providing valuable insights for listeners facing similar challenges.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:00] Introduction to Amanda and Her Journey

[07:15] Discussion of Amanda's Eating Disorder

[12:20] Recognizing Signs of Mental Stress in Young Adults

[15:50] Amanda's Decision to Share Her Story on Social Media

[20:22] Amanda's Social Media Post

[29:10] How Society Can Reduce the Stigma Surrounding Eating Disorders

[29:18] Reducing Stigma Around Eating Disorders

[35:10] Amanda's Future Goals

About Amanda Plasse:

Amanda Plasse is going to be a junior this fall at Montclair State University studying psychology. After graduation, she plans to continue onto grad school in order to become a therapist. Her ultimate goal is to eventually return back to school to receive her PhD in psychology and open up her own treatment center that treats various mental illnesses.

Currently, she is a Crisis Counselor with the Crisis Text Line. She is also a Recovery Caseworker with the Red Cross, providing resources and speaking with clients who have recently experienced a natural disaster. Finally, she works at Illuminate ABA as a behavior technician working with children with autism.

She has been diagnosed with multiple mental illnesses and has been to several treatment centers and hospitals herself. Her hope is that she can help as many people as she can who are struggling because she knows what it's like to truly live with a mental illness.

About Lisa Plasse:

Lisa Plasse is the owner, director, and flute and voice teacher of From the Top Music Studio in Midland Park, NJ, which offers instrumental and vocal lessons. In addition to her work at From the Top, she is also an applied vocal lessons instructor at Columbia University and has produced and directed many musicals, theater workshops, and concert performances. Lisa also composed and played the flute for the theme song for Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Blog post 1 by Lisa Plasse about her daughter Amanda Plasse

Blog post 2 by Lisa Plasse about her daughter Amanda Plasse
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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Contennt warning: This episode discusses death, including the death of a fellow inmate by execution because of the death penalty and the death of our guests husband to cancer. While this episode, and all episodes of Fierce Conversations with Toby, are designed to facilitate healing for all, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

“I would have never done the things I did when I got home. Never. If it weren't for what I had learned and the people I had met there [in prison].”

 - Lisa Nordike, today’s guest, former cellmate with Toby Dorr, and the real “George” from the bestselling memoir Living With Conviction

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:00] Introduction and Guest Introduction

[03:02] Discussing Time Spent in Prison

[07:16] Taking in Foster Children

[10:20] Educational and Career Paths of Foster Children

[13:11] Bonding and Friendships in Prison

[14:38] Remembering Friends Who Passed Away

[17:19] Lisa's Execution and Coping

[18:05] Recalling Light Moments in Prison

[21:12] Lisa's Philanthropic Efforts and Love for Kids

[25:00] Outro

About Lisa Nordike:

Lisa was one of Toby's closest friends inside prison and was a major character in her memoir Living With Conviction, where she was known as “George”. After Lisa served her prison sentence, she took in a dozen foster teenagers whose parents were incarcerated. Lisa is proof that it is possible to rebuild your life and even become a beacon of hope to others.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Lisa Nordike:

Lisa does not have a public profile, but contact can be made through Toby at toby@tobydorr.com.
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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Content warning:

This episode discusses the healing journey of Moira Dadd after experiencing childhood abandonment, stays in multiple orphanages, and the death of her mother by suicide. While this podcast is intended to facilitate healing and hold space for all, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

“I kept saying no to my inner critic. No, no. Thank you. Thank you so much for taking care of me. I don't need you anymore.

I imagine tussling with them sometimes, but I'm a superhero now. No, no, no. Retire." 

- Moira Dadd, international bestselling author of the memoir Cherishing Me: Letters to a Motherless Child and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

In this episode, Moira and Toby embark on a profound conversation that touches on the delicate process of healing your inner child. Join us as we explore the power of forgiveness, both to others and to self, and how it has the potential to reshape your world and free you from the chains of the past. Moira's journey is an inspiring testament to the transformation that becomes possible when we confront our inner wounds and learn to forgive.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:05] Introduction and Guest Introduction

 [01:06] Favorite Color and its Significance

 [02:02] Crossroads and Seeking Help

 [03:26] Early Life in Foster Homes and Orphanage

 [06:26] Importance of the Grieving Process

 [15:50] Moving from Doing to Being

 [21:57] Reprogramming Negative Childhood Experiences and Embracing Ones Inner Child

 [24:27] Fear of Failure and Fear of Success

 [28:14] Embracing the Concept of "I Am Enough".

 [31:53] Writing a Healing Memoir

 [34:16] Gaining Gifts from Challenging Childhood Experiences

 [35:56] Conclusion and Encouragement for Personal Growth

About Moira Dadd

Moira and her husband, Graham, a retired ordained Minister in the United Reformed Church, enjoy a busy and fulfilling life on the south coast of England. She has been blessed with three sons, two stepdaughters, their wonderful spouses and ten gorgeous grandchildren. Having suffered a profoundly painful and traumatic childhood through losing her mother to suicide in infancy, she spent several years in an orphanage followed by ten years with her sister in an abusive family before making her own way in the world, which she has indeed accomplished with aplomb!

She is a trained Hypnotherapist and Master Practitioner of NLP and created a thriving private therapy practice which continues to this day. She gained her diploma in humanistic counselling in 2004, quickly followed by her certificate in education teaching diploma. She then embarked on her master’s degree in transpersonal arts and practice where she graduated with distinction in 2007. Her training continued in Sensorimotor Trauma Psychotherapy and Lifespan Integration. She has also been a volunteer facilitator of bereavement support groups for Cruse Bereavement for over ten years. Her therapeutic practices are beautifully complemented by her work as a funeral and wedding celebrant. She continues her journey of growth, healing, and service to others.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Moira Dadd:

Books and Audiobook

Website

Instagram

Facebook

____________________________________

Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

"Sometimes you can be significant by being insignificant... 

We all have it within us to make a difference. You don't have to be wealthy. You don't have to be famous. You don't have to have a title." 

 - Toby Dorr, host of and the interviewee on today’s episode of Fierce Conversations with Toby

Special behind-the-scenes episode! Join Toby Dorr, host of Fierce Conversations with Toby, and Mark Packard, producer of Fierce Conversations with Toby, as they dive deep into the inspiring stories that make their podcast shine. Discover what drives their passions and ignites their guests' stories. Let's uncover the heart behind the mic!

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:00] Introduction to Mark Packard

[01:02] Importance of Listener Perception in Podcast Production

[01:51] Role of Music and Sound Mixing in Podcasts

[02:07] Favorite Podcast Episodes

[07:09] Defining "Fierce Conversations"

[10:14] Book Discovery and Libraries

[19:39] Audio Books and Changing Preferences

[20:51] Embracing Risks and Playing It Safe

[21:29] Speaking Up and Advocacy

[24:15] Humanizing and Advocating for Prisoners

[30:56] The Power of Difficult Conversations

[43:01] Inspiring and Empowering Women

[48:10] Outro

About Mark Packard:

As the director and producer of Number Three Productions, Mark is intent on building procedures and techniques that transcend the confines of traditional distribution models. With a pioneering spirit, he leads the charge in creating a new creator economy of shared resources, forever reshaping our landscape. Mark is always looking for an opportunity to amplify voices and disrupt the world.

Recognized as a podcasting luminary, Mark has produced three captivating hiphop EPs, curated nine engaging podcasts, composed eight podcast theme songs, and brought nine enchanting audiobooks to life. His remarkable contributions have garnered acclaim, earning him consecutive nominations as Podcast Hero of the Year at the Publisher Podcast Awards, alongside esteemed creators from Marvel, Amazon, and Penguin Random House.

Links mentioned in this episode:

The Fierce Conversations Team

Mark Packard:

Number Three Productions Website

Podcasts mentioned (links are for the YouTube episodes): 

You Might Go to Prison with Justin Brooks

Doing Things That Scare You with Catherine Bell

Uncovering Grief's Beauty with Wendy Elle

The Art of Living and Loving with Kathryn C. Boxill

They Wanted Justice with Chris, Cliff, Charles, and Tim

"Off Leash", Toby's Interview on the "Criminal" podcast (audio podcast link)

Requesting books from your local library:

How to Request a Book at Your Local Library through Libby

How to Request a Book at Your Local Library through Hoopla (Click on "Title Requests")

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Embracing Resilience: Ali Freeman's Inspiring Journey of Healing Through Art

Content warning:

This episode discusses the healing journey of Ali Freeman after the miscarriage of her daughter Morrison, as well as discussions of the loss of Toby’s daughter, Emily. While this podcast is intended to facilitate healing and hold space for all, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.

“I think it's just believing in yourself.

If something makes you feel good and makes you feel happy, then do it. 

Don't stop.”

 - Ali Freeman, inspirational artist and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

Embracing the complexity of love and the hardships of loss, Ali Freeman's journey reveals the raw emotions life can bring. For her, the creek has become a sanctuary of happiness. Each cracked glass piece she discovers serves as a poignant reminder of Morrison, the daughter she lost through miscarriage. The jagged edges of the glass mirror the pain and the void left in her heart even before meeting her daughter face to face.

Yet, in the midst of brokenness, Ali's artistry weaves together these shattered fragments with other discarded pieces, giving birth to stunning creations. In the darkness, her art shines like a beacon of hope, illuminating the path to healing. A beautiful testament to resilience, these artworks become gentle reminders of the peace that overflows into joy, as the tapestry of life unfolds before our eyes.

Some of our fierce topics today:

About Ali Freeman

Hi, I'm Ali Freeman creator of Eclectic Ali Design.

I moved to Columbia, Missouri about 10 years ago. My husband and I began taking weekly walks along the local creeks. I quickly fell in love with the peacefulness the creeks offered. With each trip, I began to grow quite a collection of beautiful, raw creek glass - pieces that had laid untouched for many years. 

One day, I was shown a rock portrait in a magazine and I instantly became inspired to create portraits of my own with my unique creek treasures.

And thus...Eclectic Ali Design began. These handpicked pieces are lovingly designed into eclectic pieces of art.  The materials I use range from creek glass, rocks, driftwood, recycled tumbled glass, pottery, Polish pottery and other artistic mediums.

My promise is to add new life to the pieces that have been left behind. Hopefully my art will tell your story and bring happiness to your home.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Ali Freeman:

Website

____________________________________

Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Sisterhood Behind Bars: The Unbreakable Bonds of Women in Prison

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

"Don't ever give up. Don't ever, ever, ever, give up.

I could not see a life this beautiful when I was dealing with the legal process or even when I was a young single mother... whatever hardship you may be going through, it holds the seeds to the beautiful future, to the best version of yourself." 

- Portia Louder, author of the memoir “Living Louder”, trauma and addiction mentor, public speaker, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Some of our fierce topics today:

 [00:00] - Introduction to the podcast episode and guest, Portia Louder.

[00:59] - Discussion about Portia's favorite color and what it tells about her.

[1:58] - Crossroads in Portia's life that pushed her in a different direction: Portia's decision to change her life in prison and the empowerment she gained.

[03:47] - Avoiding pain and facing it, the importance of self-awareness and reflection.

[4:04] - Using time in prison productively and valuing personal growth.

[7:48] - The cost of keeping secrets and the power of openly admitting mistakes.

[11:32] - Portia's work in helping incarcerated women and writing content for prisons.

[14:56] - Moving past denial and embracing personal growth and change.

[17:31] Helping incarcerated individuals find their power and move past victimhood.

[19:56] - Evaluating life after prison and finding fulfillment in personal growth and experiences.

[22:54] - Discussing self-discovery and embracing one's true self.

[25:00] - Understanding self-forgiveness as a journey.

[26:02] - Examining the impact of mistakes on others and allowing them to express their pain.

[27:08] - Highlighting the sisterhood and camaraderie experienced in women's prison.

[30:54] - Addressing the challenges of reintegrating into society after prison.

[33:24] - Encouraging resilience and embracing the potential for a better future.

[34:27] Outro.

About Portia Louder:

Portia Louder photographed weddings for a while until an opportunity to flip real estate caught her attention. But then she somewhat naively committed mortgage fraud in 2011. Indicted, Portia spent four and a half years in federal prison. Today, she speaks openly about her mistakes and what it took to move past them. Portia gained a new perspective and currently teaches empowerment skills to at-risk youth, mentors women struggling with trauma and addiction, and writes and speaks about her experiences publicly. What a perfect trainwreck to discuss fiercely!

Portia’s memoir, Living Louder, A Compassionate Journey Through Federal Prison, is an account of compassion, faith and enduring friendships discovered in federal prison.

Links mentioned in this episode:

By clicking on the links here, we may earn some additional revenue that directly supports this podcast. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Portia Louder:

Book

Website

LinkedIn

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

From Zoom Calls to Lifelong Bonds: Unleashing the Power of Connection

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Content warning:

Mentioning and brief discussion of the death of one of our guest’s 5-year-old son. While this podcast is intended to facilitate healing and hold space for all, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.

“The six of us met when we were randomly assigned to an author pod, a space to encourage each other's writing journeys.

 We've never stopped.

It's been two years now, and we've created a community that lifts each other up, encourages, and holds us accountable for our goals.

But, more importantly, we've become sisters.”

­ - Toby Dorr, host, on the creation and evolution of the Author Pod “Woman, Rise!”

Join us on an extraordinary journey as six women tell the story of finding friendship, inspiration, and lasting bonds in a writing workshop. From virtual meetups to a getaway in Maine, their story is a testament to the transformative power of connection. Delve into the profound impact of their soul-binding support network and discover how these remarkable relationships can enrich your own life.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[0:00] Introduction and welcoming the Woman, Rise! Authors.

[1:00] Everyone’s favorite colors and what that says about them.

[7:53] The story of the start of the Author Pod (fiercely titled “Woman, Rise!”).

[9:43] What Leslie loves and finds special about all the authors in the Woman, Rise! Author Pod.

[13:27] Everyone’s thoughts from when they first started meeting and then what it's come to mean to them.

[26:06] A crossroads in the life of each member of the pod and how that pushed them in a different direction.

[43:46] Anything else from the Author Pod?

[58:54] Outro from Toby Dorr.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Leslie Ahmadi Website

Kathryn C. Boxill Website   

Wendy Elle Website

Marilynn James Website 

Lisa Plasse Website 

____________________________________

Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Check out the video of this interview here!

“Allow yourself to feel.

To grieve.

To mourn. Oftentimes with life, people wanna keep moving.

We have our responsibilities, but in the midst of that you should be comfortable to be able to

process those feelings and deal with how you're feeling and grieve in real time.”

 - Kathryn C. Boxill of BeDoLove, LLC, today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[0:00] Intro.

[01:00] Kathryn’s favorite color, and why.

[02:50] The crossroads in Kathryn’s life that led her in a different direction.

[05:19] The importance of sisterhood, brotherhood, and a support network.

[06:39] How having a working and supporting partner holds you accountable.

[08:27] The myth and the legend of Pop (Kathryn’s father).

[10:10] How Pop dealt with his cancer diagnosis and the inspirational journey that followed.

[12:34] The beauty and significance of being there for a loved one during their final moments.

[17:13] How the caregiving experience changed Kathryn's life.

[21:22] Exploring ways to honor and appreciate those we have lost.

[24:37] You need to feel the emotions.

[26:38] How Kathryn moved through and with the hardship of losing Pop during Covid.

[29:44] How does Kathryn keep Pop involved in her life?

[33:19] A little bit more about Kathryn’s tagline "Be. Do. Love.”

[36:13] The importance of asking someone how they are truly doing.

[39:28] Outro.

 
About Kathryn C. Boxill

 Kathryn C. Boxill is an extraordinary being on a mission to inspire and contribute to the world through her unique journey of self-discovery. As a writer and blogger, she embraces her gift of expression and shares her inner spiritual thoughts, poetry, and culinary adventures with her audience. Her blog, "BeDoLove," is a testament to her commitment to living her life's purpose.

Driven by her thirst for learning and personal growth, Kathryn believes that life's ultimate purpose is to "Be" all that one can be, create joy and peace through meaningful actions, and spread unconditional love. She is passionate about empowering others to embrace love as the driving force in their lives, allowing them to experience fulfillment and genuine connection.

Kathryn's blog is a reflection of her open and adventurous spirit, as she explores new experiences and cherishes the beauty of the world we live in. With a belief in falling in love with life repeatedly, she encourages her readers to step out of their comfort zones and embrace the magic of living out their dreams and desires.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Kathryn C. Boxill:

Website

Instagram

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Books and Audiobook

Website 

Patreon

YouTube

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Facebook

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“I think that that's one of the overlooked traits that we have as an entire community is that we tend to not listen.

And I think that if we take time, take a minute to sit back and actually listen to what the community is asking for,

then we can better serve them.”

 - Frederick Johnson, therapist, barber, founder of DiverisfyU, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby. 

Some of our fierce topics today: 

0:00 Intro

2:13 A switch from illegal activity on the streets to joining the military.

4:18 Serving historically excluded populations as a mental health therapist.

6:11 One word: discipline.

7:38 About DiversifyU.

8:53 Being a barber and a therapist at the same time.

10:40 Frederick’s creation of Fase Barber Initiative (FBI).

12:18 Soothing the anger in our communities by listening.

14:39 Working as a school-based therapist and the changes being made by Frederick’s work.

17:07 Frederick’s upcoming book, More Black People Should Be Eaten by Sharks.

19:34 How to help support DiversifyU and Frederick’s other endeavors.

22:04 Final thoughts and outro.

About Frederick Johnson:

Frederick Johnson is a therapist with 25 years of experience providing services for youth, families, veterans, and the unsheltered. He is also a combat veteran, having served in Operation Iraqi Freedom as a Supply Sergeant with his Army Ranger Unit. Throughout his career, Fred has always been drawn to create innovative methods and programs focused on serving historically excluded and low SES populations. DiverisfyU is a capacity-building firm specializing in program development and culturally sensitive curriculum encouraging out-of-the-box thinking and creative alternatives. It also provides timely and affordable school counseling services to students in need, with the goal of increasing academics, mental health, and the overall well-being of the students. Additionally, Fred currently works as a school-based therapist, providing intensive services and teaching social-emotional learning (SEL) classes.

Born and raised in Chicago, Fred attended high school and college in Iowa. A linebacker for the 1995 RC Cola Bowl National Junior College Championship, he was inducted to the Iowa Lakes Hall of Fame in 2015. He holds a Bachelor of Arts in Public Administration and a Master of Public Administration (MPA) with an emphasis on nonprofit management from Upper Iowa University. Post military, he moved to Kansas City with his wife Hanna and two children, Darian and Marion, and completed his Master of Arts (MA) in Counseling from Midwestern Baptist Seminary. In his free time, you may find Fred cutting hair in his barbershop, bowling in national tournaments, crafting the perfect jerk salmon in his smoker, and writing his first book, More Black People Should Be Eaten by Sharks.  

Links mentioned in this episode:

Frederick Johnson:

Website

Facebook

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube<

Check out the video of this interview here!

“Your perspective is a superpower that you have in your pocket at all times.

And it doesn't matter what level of situation you're in, whatever you can control or what you can't control around you, whether you like it or you don't, that perspective is the one thing that's pretty unchanging,

so long as you're aware of it.”

 - Carly Fahey-Dima, Communication Manager, Culture Manager, and CFO (Chief Fun Officer) of GracePoint Publishing and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Some of our fierce topics today:

0:00 Intro

1:30 The crossroad in Carly’s life that pushed her to make a difficult decision.

2:53 Life is about going through these difficult things and coming out on the other side.

3:20 Carly’s crazy story about being wrongfully arrested at 15.

7:30 What kept Carly going through this turbulent time.

8:25 Perspective is our superpower.

9:33 A different decision in juvenile hall.

14:30 After Carly went home.

19:20 The verdict.

25:36 Carly reclaiming herself.

26:55 Final thoughts and outro.

About Carly Fahey-Dima

Carly is a lifelong lover of words, writing, and storytelling. Having graduated with her bachelor’s degree in Creative Writing and a minor in Sociology, Carly fell in love with combining her passion for writing with her love for understanding people. Carly is responsible for many of the communications authors and clients receive from GracePoint and prides herself in being someone they can come to to get the answers they need. In addition to her communications responsibilities, Carly has been appointed as the “Manager of Fun” for GracePoint and always likes to find a way to get the team to celebrate a random national holiday or gather for some trivia. When she isn’t at work doing the job she loves she is hiking, cooking soup, crocheting, training for her next half marathon, playing video games with her boyfriend Wilson, or snuggling with her fur babies, Aldo and Soup.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Carly Fahey-Dima:

Sign up for the weekly GracePoint Publishing newsletter, written by Carly, to dive more into her creative musings.

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Books and Audiobook

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Patreon

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Facebook

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Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Check out the video of this interview here!

“I kept going at it and the best thing of it all is that my band director said to me, you know what?

I see the determination.

You can't give up.”

 - Lisa Plasse, composer of The Fierce Conversations with Toby theme song and today’s guest, on her first experience with the flute – which took Lisa 7 months of practicing to even create a sound.

Make sure to listen and watch to the end where Lisa does a live flute performance during the outro to today’s episode!

Some of our fierce topics today:

00:00 Intro

03:37 Not giving up and not walking away from something that's challenging.

05:53 Journaling and the therapy the process gives.

07:45 The process for creating the theme song for Fierce Conversations with Toby.

10:42 The part of music that fills Lisa’s soul the most.

31:21 Lisa plays the flute part of the theme song for Fierce Conversations with Toby during the outro.

Lisa Plasse is the owner, director, and flute and voice teacher of From the Top Music Studio in Midland Park, NJ, which offers instrumental and vocal lessons. In addition to her work at From the Top, she is also an applied vocal lessons instructor at Columbia University and has produced and directed many musicals, theater workshops, and concert performances.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Lisa Plasse:

Lisa Plasse Website

From the Top Music Studio

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Check out the video of this interview here!

“If a movie was made about your life, who would play the lead role?” 
This classic conversation-starter question was actually answered for Toby Dorr! For Toby, the face of the lead role was Catherine Bell when she played Toby in the Lifetime movie Jailbreak Lovers. Since Jailbreak Lovers was created from public news stories and without consultation from Toby, the cast was not allowed to speak with Toby during the filming and production. Join Toby and Catherine as they talk about what it felt like for Toby to have someone showcase the story of the biggest turning point in her life in a movie… and not have any control over what was said. See the time stamps below for other topics covered in today’s interview! 

Catherine Bell is an actress and a model and has starred in multiple films and TV shows including The Good Witch, JAG, Army Wives, Bruce Almighty, and Lifetime’s Jailbreak Lovers (Toby’s story). In addition to Catherine’s screen career, she is also the co-founder of EVR Beauty and a supervisor with Criminon, "an international, non-profit organization dedicated to criminal rehabilitation and reform."

Links mentioned in this episode:

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Catherine Bell:

Criminon

EVR Beauty Retinol and Collagen Cream

EVR Beauty Website
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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Timestamps

(0:00-1:44) Introduction and welcoming Catherine Bell.

(1:44-3:13) Catherine, you’re a firm believer in doing things that scare you. What’s the scariest thing you’ve ever done and would you do it again?

(3:13-5:28) A bit about Criminon, the non-profit organization Catherine does work for.  

(5:28-6:22) What Catherine ponders when considering new roles.

(6:22-7:52) Catherine’s approach to the personas she portrays when acting.

(7:52-11:02) The way Catherine figured out how to play Toby in Jailbreak Lovers without ever getting to talk to Toby and how Toby felt Catherine portrayed her in the movie.

(11:02-12:12) What Catherine has learned about Toby after playing her and Toby’s most cringey moment when watching the movie with her family.

(12:12-12:48) Catherine is known for portraying strong women. Are there any roles she hasn’t played yet that she would like to? 

(12:48-14:55) Toby shares stories about fierce women who are not talked about or as well-known but should be.

(14:55-17:11) Catherine and EVR Beauty.

(17:11-18:38) Catherine’s life lesson that has carried her through the hard times.

(18:38-19:40) Catherine saying Fierce Conversations with Toby in Farsi.

(19:40-21:50) Wrapping up, thank you to Catherine, and outro.

Check out the video of this interview here!

Chris Turner. Clifton Yarborough. Charles Turner. Timothy Catlett.

Our guests today spent 30+ years behind bars, being a number and not a name. We made sure their names are right at the very beginning to honor Chris, Cliff, Charles, and Tim as human beings who were never just numbers.

The Catherine Fuller murder occurred in Washington, D.C. in 1984. During the trial, eight boys were tried (4 of which are our guests today), wrongfully convicted, and sentenced to about 30 years in prison each. Their story came to light in Tom Dybdahl’s new book When Innocence Is Not Enough. Tom was interviewed in the last episode, YouTube video interview here.

Tom summed up their story this way:

“The men – boys, mostly, when it all began – were just guys from the 8th and H NE neighborhood in D.C. They had limited education and experience and resources… But each of them had a core of basic honesty. Under immense pressure, day after day after day, that core never cracked.

They were offered leniency in exchange for statements of guilt… But they hadn’t done the crime, so they wouldn’t say otherwise.

They did not want mercy. They wanted justice. They got neither. Yet they endured. They never sold their integrity for their freedom.”

Having served their full sentences, Chris, Cliff, Charles, and Tim share with us their journey through prison, how they found the courage and strength to endure, and how they’ve created new lives after prison. 

Links mentioned in this episode:

Guests:

Mayor's Office on Returning Citizen Affairs

Free Minds Book Club & Writing Workshop

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Content Warning:  This episode contains brief descriptions of violence, including sexual violence involved in the 1984 Catherine Fuller case.

Check out the video of this interview here!

“What’s at stake when prosecutors conceal evidence—and what we can do about it.”

 - From the description of the book When Innocence Is Not Enough: Hidden Evidence and the Failed Promise of the Brady Rule, written by today’s guest, Thomas L. Dybdahl.

Through stories of real criminal cases in which justice wasn’t served, Tom’s book and the discussions in this interview may outrage you. 

I hope it does. Let’s take our anger and our outrage and use it together to change our broken justice system.

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Thomas L. Dybdahl:

Book

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Content warning:

This episode contains dialogue that includes mentions of the death of our guest’s 5-year-old son. While this interview is intended to facilitate healing and hold space for all that have been affected by loss, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.

Check out the video of this interview here!

Wendy Elle’s precious five-year-old son died instantly when the plane he was on, piloted by his father, crashed in the woods. Through this unimaginable tragedy, Wendy has been able to find a way to choose the beauty in the flaws and the perfection in her mistakes. She has witnessed both the ordinary and extraordinary on the inevitable roller-coaster of life.

Wendy is currently writing her first book which is becoming her chance to share her survival skills and her smiles. Between writing books, playing with her dog Ralph who requires all of her attention (all of the time), completing her “Fish Shed Cottage” in Nova Scotia, and endeavoring to upgrade a prestigious winery at Niagara-on-the-Lake, Wendy managed to find the time to engage in a Fierce Conversation with Toby. Come along with us as we learn with Wendy and Toby how to Uncover Grief's Beauty.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Wendy Elle:

Instagram

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Check out the video of this interview here!

Two groups of people face the perilous path called reentry: astronauts and inmates. 

Our guest today is Carla Anderson, a reentry coordinator for a national nonprofit in Washington, D.C. Through her impactful work, Carla helps inmates to rise above societal prejudice, return to their families, and overcome the difficulties of starting over as they reenter the world after their release from prison. Inmates may not be reentering from the silent and cold vacuum of space, but an inmate’s reentry is not all that different from that of an astronaut.

In addition to her work as a reentry coordinator, Carla also ministers to inmates as co-vice president of the Jail and Prison Ministry of Alfred Street Baptist Church in Alexandria, VA., serves as Justice Ambassador with Prison Fellowship headquartered in Lansdowne, VA, and speaks as a voice of inmates to legislators about prison policy, process, and implementation. Carla now resides in Frederick County, VA with her life partner, Harold, and their rescue dog, Cardi.

One in twenty Americans do time. Whether you know someone who’s been to prison or you’ve already been on Carla’s and Toby’s side of entering into prison, we hope you find solidarity and hope in today’s Fierce Conversation with Toby.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Carla Anderson:

Email

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Check out the video of this episode here!

George Floyd. Derek Chauvin. Bill Cosby. Kyle Rittenhouse. Vicky White. Today’s guest, Laura Collins, has been there for all of them.

Laura reported from Minneapolis following the death of George Floyd and the ensuing unrest, and then returned for Derek Chauvin’s trial. She was in the courtroom during Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse’s trial. During the Bill Cosby trials she spoke with many of his accusers. She also interviewed the now infamous juror number 50 following the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. 

Toby and Laura first met when Laura was covering the tragic story of Vicky White, as Toby’s story and experience with breaking an inmate out of prison had a similar start – but a strikingly different outcome.

Born in Scotland, Laura Collins is an Emmy Award winning investigative journalist and has reported from around the globe for the United Kingdom’s largest media outlets. She also traveled extensively to bring us word of the COVID-19 pandemic. Today, Laura regularly contributes from the Big Apple as the Chief Investigative Reporter for the Daily Mail (a British newspaper and news website with a daily online readership of 4 million people)

Join us to learn how Laura balances the power of journalism with the fulfillment of life while bearing witness to these monumental events.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Laura Collins:

Kate Moss Book

Twitter

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Check out the video of this interview here!

An eye-opening look into our broken justice system, one where innocence may not protect you from incarceration — or even the death penalty.

Today’s guest is Justin Brooks, the Director and Co-Founder of the California Innocence Project, an organization that has secured the release of dozens of innocent people who otherwise may have spent the rest of their lives wrongfully incarcerated. Justin was also portrayed by Academy Award nominated actor Greg Kinnear in the feature film, Brian Banks. Justin’s new book, You Might Go to Prison, Even Though You’re Innocent, is an inside examination of our “justice” system that just might change your life.

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Justin Brooks:

Book

Website

California Innocence Project

Hamburger Video Mentioned Today 

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Toby Dorr:

Patreon

Books and Audiobook

Website  

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/