Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

One of the slept-on SNL greats!

This week, Dana and David are talking about David’s visa adventures, working with Maya Rudolph, and the Michigan Senate race. Also, fake crying, Buzzing Around, and the news of the week.

Jeff Arcuri joins David and Dana this week to talk about doing comedy in the round, crowd work, and his new Netflix special “Nice to Meet You”. Also, the guys compare “mailbox money”, wonder if the pottery scene in Ghost is sexual, and Jeff explains why you should search for his special by his last name and not “Jeff”.

This week David and Dana talk through David’s travel woes, the Fauci trial, and they pitch a sitcom for Greta Thunberg. Also, The Turtle Club gets a remix, Buzzing Around, and the news of the week.

From out of the Mediterranean Sea, Natasha Lyonne joins the guys from Spain this week to talk about Fred Armisen’s drum solos, working with Coleman Domingo on season 3 of Euphoria, and her new movie Klara and the Sun. Also, being a child actress on Pee-wee's Playhouse, who should be the next James Bond, and producing Russian Doll alongside Amy Poehler.

This one was so good (and long) that we needed 2 parts.

This week, Dana and David are talking about Andrew Dice Clay, the LA sinkhole, and Shane Gillis’ record breaking show in Philadelphia. Also, Dana’s review of The Odyssey, AI scams, and getting birthday flowers from Lorne.

Jake Johnson joins Dana and David this week to talk about doing comedy with Ed Harris, his experience with New Girl guest star Jon Lovitz, and his new movie The Dink. Also, Chris Farley, Phil Hartman, and remembering back when old people were old.

Part 1 of a 2-parter with Rob coming to David's house!

This week, David met Gene Simmons at the Burbank airport, Dana saw Backrooms, and they both consider whether or not they caught World Cup fever. Also, Mick Jagger, Buzzing Around, and the news of the week.

Luke Wilson joins David and Dana this week to talk about childhood nicknames, Nick Swardson’s appendix, and his new Netflix show with Will Ferrell, Hawk. Also, Bill Maher’s fascination with Dana’s marriage, getting stuck on an elevator with Wes Anderson, and the lasting influence of Idiocracy.

Remember when Dana's neighbor and Hollywood stud John Corbett came on the show?

This week, Dana & David discuss the US Mens team’s collapse, the controversy surrounding the Odyssey, and playing “nice guys” in movies. Also, why Dana wasn’t at Taylor and Travis’ wedding, Buzzing Around, and the news of the week.

The guys are joined by Jim Jefferies to talk famous Aussies, drinking and drugs, singing opera, buggery, Village People, and much more.

This week Dana & David are talking about the World Cup, James Bond, and how Dana is the co-star to his hair. Also, Dana’s horse had a baby, Buzzing Around, and the news of the week.

Nathan Lane joins Dana and David this week to reminisce with Dana about their time with Mickey Rooney, working with Christopher Walken on Mouse Hunt, and his current run as Willy Loman in Death of a Salesman on Broadway. Also, Dana hates plays, Only Murders in the Building, and starring in The Nutcracker 3D with Elle Fanning.

We loved having this SNL great on so much that we needed to listen again!

Theo Von joins the guys this week to talk all about Busboys, Little House on the Prairie, and singing with Ella Langley at Stagecoach. Also, meeting Kate Hudson at the Netflix is a Joke brunch, sitting between David and Dennis Miller at a UFC fight, and thinking that Joe Dirt was a documentary.

Edward Norton joins Dana and David this week to talk about Adam Sandler, Seth Rogen’s improv, and his new movie The Invite. Also, getting stoned with Brad Pitt at the Venice Film Festival, why the Hulk’s pants always turned purple, and being directed by Olivia Wilde.

Resurfacing a memorable episode we did with this icon!

This week, Dana and David cover everything from Timothée Chalamet celebrating with the Knicks, to Scatman Crothers’ weed. Also, Elon’s a trillionaire, Buzzing Around, and the news of the week.

David and Dana have Jim Downey back on the podcast this week to talk about One Battle After Another, being officemates with Bill Murray, and the new documentary about him, Downey Wrote That. Also, the most potent writing staff he ever worked with, Eddie Murphy’s first year on SNL, and Casey Kasem.

This was a fun one with a modern day SNL legend!

This week, David & Dana are talking about David’s joke bombing at The Improv, Taylor Swift, and the Knicks wild comeback in Game 4 of the NBA Finals. Also, the LA Mayoral race, Buzzing Around, and the stories of the week.

David and Dana have Josh Duhamel joining them this week to talk everything from Ransom Canyon to getting dating advice from James Caan on the set of Vegas. Also, getting his big break on Win a Date with Tad Hamilton, directing Nick Swardson on Buddy Games, and working with Shia Labeouf on the Transformers movies.

This week, David and Dana cover the NBA finals, whether or not Baby Yoda is getting too old, and when David met the cast of Obsession. Also, the LA mayoral election, Buzzing Around, and the week’s news.

Hannah Berner joins the guys this week to talk about working with Amy Poehler on a new show, whether or not Giggly Squad has guests, and her new Hulu special “None of My Business”. They also swap Shane Gillis stories, mix up The Rock with Chris Rock, and cover Hannah’s transition from Summer House to stand-up.

Bringing this special episode back to life with media mogul, sports savant, and SNL superfan Bill Simmons.

David and Dana cover Dana’s Summer cut, David’s Vegas show with Nikki Glaser, and soft rock podcasting. Plus, Dana doesn’t know where the original Garth wig is, Scooby News, and Don Jr’s wedding.

Kevin Nealon joins the guys to talk about golfing with Norm MacDonald, not wanting to know what Lin-Manuel Miranda thinks of him, and his new special, Loose in the Crotch. Also, AI Co-Writers, Hanz & Franz's insecurities, and asking Julian Lennon who his favorite Beatle is.

Remeber when Dan Aykroyd came to David's house to record this episode?

The guys talk about David’s time at the Ronda Rousey v Gina Carano fight, in which he exchanged numbers with Jon Bones Jones, and had his view obstructed by Michael Irvin. They also cover season 51 of SNL, Buzzing Around, and the news of the week!

The guys catch up with Brendan Fraser to talk about life after winning an Oscar, working with Chris Farley on Airheads, and becoming Dwight D. Eisenhower for his new movie, Pressure. They also cover the highly anticipated fourth Mummy movie, why the third one was set in China, and how he used to purposefully fall out of his chair during auditions.

Bringing back this episode with a true SNL legend!

David and Dana discuss The Roast of Kevin Hart, Spencer Pratt’s Airstream, and David recaps Euphoria while Dana wonders if he should have done more nudity in his career. Also, animal sounds, Buzzing Around, and the news of the week.

David and Dana were LIVE at the Orpheum Theater with special guest, Chris Rock. They trade Michael Jackson stories, remember going to McDonalds with Michael Jordan, and Chris looks back on the first time he met Adam Sandler. The also discuss how he almost got to record the voice for Donkey in the Shrek movies, and why Tupac didn't like Chris.

The guys discuss Mike Tyson, the hantavirus, and golfing with Andrew Santino and Bert Kreischer. They also cover their live show with Chris Rock for the Netflix is a Joke Festival, and go over the news of the week.

Hank Azaria joins the guys to discuss the Simpsons, why he never auditioned for SNL, and taking acting classes alongside Brad Pitt and Sharon Stone. They also swap Christopher Walken stories, marvel at Conan O’Brien’s rise from Simpsons writer to talk show host, and dissect how Moe Szyslak is a perfect combination of young Al Pacino and Bruce Springsteen.

Resurfacing this episode with comedy legend Judd Apatow!

Dana and David discuss the Desert Warrior box office numbers, manifestos, and Dana’s recent trip to New Orleans Jazz Fest. Also, Simone Biles and the cost of glam, plus Buzzing Around, and the news of the day.

Adam Scott joins the guys to talk about his nightmare Coachella experience—especially after Justin Bieber’s concert—along with his love of “Church Chat” and the origins of Severance. He shares stories about Christopher Walken and why making he just wants to make him proud, reflects on Rob Lowe’s good looks, and Step Brothers. Plus, they dive into their shared love of U2 and his upcoming horror film Hokum.

Let’s revisit gnarly injuries, a life-changing video game, and Police Academy 4 with Tony Hawk. *Note: this interview was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike took effect.

The guys swap R-rated jokes they’ve been pitched mid-flight, preview their upcoming Netflix Is a Joke appearance (get tickets), and break down David’s run-in with the Shuffler Ghost. Plus: Buzzing Around and news, including the Prom Principal and Dana’s secret life exposed.

Mark Normand joins Dana and David to discuss David’s appearance on the We Might Be Drunk podcast, being compared to Norm Macdonald, and building momentum from a breakout special to a new release on Netflix. He shares insights on sustaining a career in comedy and refining material on a daily basis. They also cover his takes on the moon, Lizzo, and Katy Perry, along with a tour of his office, before wrapping up with a discussion on what makes classic comedy films endure.

Let’s revisit women on SNL, Pat, and religion with Julia Sweeney. *Note: this interview was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike took effect in 2023.

Dana and David open with new material and a look at jokes that didn’t land before diving into Coachella. They share their thoughts on Justin Bieber’s performance and the controversy surrounding Sabrina Carpenter. They also weigh in on Katy Perry vs. Ruby Rose before moving into drunk college stories, a new round of Buzzing Around, and the latest news.

What can’t Zach Braff do? Seriously—he directs his own T-Mobile commercials, and today he joins Dana and David for a hilarious convo. They dive into Zach’s love of The Church Lady, what it was like having dinner with Spade and Howard Stern, and David drops an all-time story: which one of Zach’s close friends did he once have a threesome with??? Plus, Zach reflects on his journey—from making a pilot with Gwyneth Paltrow at just 14, to starring alongside Natalie Portman in Garden State, to what hosting SNL is really like. They also get into how Scrubs found new life without feeling like nostalgia bait, and why Zach and Donald Faison remain one of the great on-screen duos.

Busboys premieres later this week and the guys learn that it’s going head-to-head with the new Lorne documentary. David also shares travel stories with Keanu Reeves and makes sure to clear up some details on his Tiger Woods golf story. Then the guys talk NASA conspiracies, cockroaches as fashion, and a parrot in a submarine.

Dana and David are joined by the always unfiltered and outrageously funny Tim Dillon. They revisit Tim’s time working with David on Lights Out, dive into his experiences on Euphoria, Joker 2, and the upcoming Bus Boys before they get into his thoughts on Meghan Markle. From there, things take a turn—covering everything from the draft and politics to financial advice you definitely shouldn’t follow. Tim also reflects on how The Dana Carvey Show influenced his comedy, and makes the case that McDonald's might keep you alive into your hundreds.

Dana and David are back—and apparently, they’re Webby-nominated?! The guys react to being up for a Comedy Podcast award. They also dive into Bus Boys and Outcome updates, get into a spirited Voter ID debate, and try to figure out who the real fool of April is. Plus—wait… are we actually going back to the moon?! Webby Awards voting open through April 16: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/shows/comedy

Ringo Starr joins for a wide-ranging conversation that blends music history, storytelling, and pure joy. They reflect on his time with The Beatles and shares never-before-heard stories behind iconic tracks like “Come Together” and “Strawberry Fields Forever.” He dives into his intuitive drumming style, why he “never plays the same thing twice,” and how some of the band’s most legendary moments came together by accident. Plus, Ringo talks about his new album Long, Long Road, working with T-Bone, and why country, blues, and Motown continue to shape his sound.

Let’s revisit good times with Chris Farley, Tracy Morgan impressions, and addiction with Jay Mohr.

Welcome to episode #???… who cares! The guys kick things off by debating just how tough they really are—and whether they could survive a fight with THE Jack Reacher. From there, they dive into the origins of Evel Knievel, the sad story of the OnlyFans CEO dying, and the big question: did Spade break up with Kelly Osbourne? Plus, Dana and David react to SNL UK and The Bachelorette controversy, break down a list of cities with the most STDs, and kick off the Busboys press tour.

Bill O’Reilly drops in with an important message: his latest book was written for The Church Lady. Then, Bill and the guys discuss working for yourself vs. the corporate grind, how TV (and journalism) changed in the digital age, and what comedians are allowed to joke about now. Bill also reacts to Dana’s Biden impression, weighs in on SNL’s current vibe, dishes stories about Dennis Miller and Norm Macdonald, explains why Billy Joel inexplicably loves him, and shares a few thoughts on Gavin Newsom, AI, and—casually—how to end the Ukraine war. Through it all, Bill proves something no one saw coming: he’s way funnier than you think.

Let's revisit political correctness, Farley reflections, and a Triumph roast with Robert Smigel.

Dana unleashes a new Johnny Carson bit, David explains Heated Rivalry (way too late), and the guys discuss NIL in college sports, golfing with Travis Kelce, 2 of David's new projects, baby Jon Lovitz and so much more.

Adam Friedland crashes the “Old Boys Club” and immediately starts showering the guys with compliments. From there it’s a stories of Rob Schneider, Jerry Seinfeld, and a shared appreciation for Sarah Sherman. The conversation drifts into Adam’s hidden talents and Jewish jokes that crush with audiences. Things briefly get philosophical about confronting politicians on podcasts and whether comedians should be treated like modern-day thinkers. Naturally, the episode returns to safer territory with the most important cultural debate of our time: Grown Ups vs. Grown Ups 2.

Let’s revisit trying standup, kissing in acting class, and hosting SNL with Bryan Cranston.

The endlessly multi hyphenate Lake Bell joins Dana and David to unpack the mysterious origins of her name, dive into the art of voice acting (including working with Dana on The Secret Life of Pets), pull back the curtain on how award shows and after-parties actually work, and talk about her latest HBO series, The Chair Company.

Let’s revisit Tony Robbin's birthday, bombing on cruise ships, and a chaotic SNL audition with Kyle Dunnigan.

Dana Carvey returns to The David Spade Show to recap life on the road with David — including a possible pink eye incident. The two dive into their latest movie pitch for Jason Statham’s next action hit, The Goiter and attempt to solve the mysterious Jim Carrey conspiracy circulating online. They also revisit an SNL sketch that never made it to air, weigh in on current headlines like tensions with Iran and California’s crime, and unleash another chaotic edition of Buzzing Around. Plus, the news stories get even stranger: Lamar Odom’s legendary cocaine summers, and Amanda Seyfried’s prosthetic… what exactly?

Tim Meadows is back with the guys to talk about the movie that unexpectedly revived his career — Mean Girls — and his new CBS series DMV, where he stars alongside fellow SNL alum Molly Kearney. He also spills on the absurd Adam Sandler group text chains and reflects on working with the late, great Chris Farley. Nostalgia, chaos, and classic Meadows — all in one episode.

Let’s revisit leaving SNL, Trump hosting, and teeth acting with Cecily Strong.

Dana and David return to argue about how to properly describe each other, what time dinner should actually be, and deliver this week’s hottest takes — from tax tips to fitness advice. Then they pivot to the “serious stuff”: Bill Gates and Deepak Chopra reacting to the Epstein Files, the State of the Union, dating strategies, and the definitive guide to washing your underwear in a hotel coffee maker.

It’s triple D today: Denis, David, and Dana. That’s right—Denis Leary, aka Conan O’Brien’s comedy cousin, joins the pod to reminisce about the Boston comedy scene of the ’80s, including his time at Emerson College’s Comedy Workshop. Denis gets into why he never did Saturday Night Live—even though he would’ve landed there during the guys’ era—and reflects on his iconic film roles, including Demolition Man, plus what it was like golfing with Sylvester Stallone.

Let’s revisit problems with the law, Richard Pryor stories, and the original SNL days with Garrett Morris.

Dana gives David his flowers for landing an Esquire feature and crushing an encore at the Comedy Store. Then things take a turn — breaking news, emergencies, and a “special guest” who clears it all up… with a little help from some Bill Burr impressions. Plus: Buzzing Around, the worst stadium names ever, nightmare carnival rides, and the dangers of live streaming.

Pearl Jam frontman Eddie Vedder joins the guys to reflect on the early Seattle grunge scene, his first Saturday Night Live appearance in 1991 with David Spade, and how he pulled off the unheard-of feat of performing three songs in one night. He draws surprising parallels between music and stand-up comedy before diving into his new Netflix documentary on epidermolysis bullosa, Matter of Time. The conversation wraps with stories about his “cameo” in Hugh Jackman’s Song Sung Blue and how Martin Short once convinced him to quit smoking.

Let’s revisit Lorne's analysis, impression inspiration, and evolving on the show with Chloe Fineman.

Dana and David return to crack the mystery of the sweater Marcello Hernandez snagged at New York Magazine’s SNL 50th anniversary photo shoot (yes, the one with Dana). From there, they dive into their VERY late Super Bowl hot takes before jumping into another hilarious round of Buzzing Around. They wrap things up with some news… and trust us, you’ll want the subtitles on for this episode. It’ll all make sense once you hit play.

Let's revisit SNL experience and technique, career decision-making, and a magical Paul McCartney moment with Paul Rudd.

Dana and David are back—this time confronting the undeniable truth that they may have the worst shoe game in all of comedy. From there, they debate who’s had more emails: Epstein or Dana. Plus, David shares an INSANE Chris Farley story, on-set tales involving Keanu Reeves, and Buzzing Around makes its return. Things heat up fast during the news, so buckle up.

Fresh off presenting at the Grammys, Marcello Hernández (aka SNL’s Domingo) joins the guys in studio. He shares what it was like chatting backstage with Queen Latifah, his love for Olivia Dean’s music, and how surreal the whole Grammys experience was. Then it’s all Saturday Night Live: the origins of Domingo, how Marcello landed his first sketch, and the biggest on-air bomb he and Dana ever shared. They also get into whether Marcello texts with Lorne Michaels and who could possibly take over when he retires. Plus, the guys get a Spanish lesson for the ages.

Let’s revisit Hollywood parties, dating, and her special with Chelsea Handler.

Dana and David are back rocking their wildest hair yet. David kicks things off with golfing stories alongside Jon Lovitz, receiving a CRAZY drunk midnight text, and witnessing the biggest French loaf he’s ever seen on television (it’ll make sense once you tune in). Dana then dives into recent revelations around AI and Sydney Sweeney’s new underwear line, Syrn, before they jump into the news with riveting stories like why escort demand is skyrocketing. And FINALLY, they decide what Fly On The Wall fans should officially be called.

The guys welcome Bert Kreischer into the studio. They cover Dana’s unhinged diet, how to drink like Bert without wrecking your next day, and how young Bert cleverly locked in job security at comedy clubs before anyone knew his name. Bert also breaks down his rules for recording a comedy special and what it actually means to “hack” comedy. And in perhaps the most important reveal of all—Bert explains how his dad knew Pete Davidson not because of SNL… but for a very different reason. You’ll want to hear that part.

Let’s revisit hilarity and chaos with Chevy Chase (and family).

Dana and David react to the Oscar nominations before weighing in on Davos, Trump, and Greenland—because why not? From there, they go full inside baseball: their upcoming Netflix Is a Joke show, the real impact of test screenings on movies, the biggest laughs Tommy Boy got initially versus what audiences ended up loving, and why Jordan Peele quit acting altogether. Plus, other news along the way.

The guys jump in with the hard-hitting questions right away—like Jimmy Kimmel’s daily routine and whether he still goes to the mall—before spiraling into a whirlwind of celebrity stories and late-night lore. From debating the truth behind Kate Beckinsale’s infamous egg story to unpacking theories about 31 Atlas, tracing how Oprah inadvertently helped create The Man Show, arguing about ghosts, and exploring the future of AI, this episode has it all.

We revisit the pioneer of podcasting who interviewed Neil Young, Springsteen, and Robin Williams, and did a scene alongside Robert De Niro. It’s our chat with Marc Maron.

Dana and David waste no time diving into awards season—starting with the most important question of all: were the reigning champions of iHeart’s Best Comedy Podcast nominated again this year… or not? The answer remains murky, despite what The Hollywood Reporter claims. From there, they break down the Golden Globes and how hard Nikki Glaser crushed it, which jokes David tried to sneak into the show. Also, the guys debate whether walking up stairs is exercise or not. And best of all, Joe Dirt lives! You’ll have to listen to find out what that means.

The guys welcome Mr. Wonderful himself—Kevin O’Leary—fresh off his first major acting role in Josh Safdie’s Marty Supreme. Kevin breaks down why he wanted to do more than just spank Timothée Chalamet’s butt in the film (alternate ending, anyone?), how the now-iconic vampire line came to be, and what surprised him most about stepping onto a movie set. Plus, he reflects on his years of Shark Tank, what it’s really like hanging out with Mark Cuban and Barbara Corcoran, and drops some business wisdom that goes completely over Dana and David’s heads.

Dana and David jump on to celebrate Dana’s 43rd wedding anniversary—but let’s be honest, the real milestone is ANOTHER deep dive into Housemaid, now that David has finally seen it. From there, the guys mark the one-year anniversary of the LA fires and ask the big question: where did all the money actually go? Along the way: audition survival tips, why Love Island: Moon would be the greatest reality show ever, their very official takes on modern art, and news!

Dana and David welcome Teri Hatcher for a candid, funny cruise through it all: she tells the wild story of tagging along to a Love Boat audition—and booking the role over her best friend—shares what she splurged on when the money finally hit, and opens up about dating and how she’s finding her way into comedy. Teri explains how Lois & Clark made acting feel like a real career, drops stories from hosting SNL and leading Desperate Housewives, and—true to form—jokes about feeling like a “hick,” having an “average vagina,” and why her boobs are “real and spectacular” (even if Jerry Seinfeld isn’t convinced).

Dana and David kick off the new year with bold predictions for 2026 and a rundown of their favorite movies from 2025. Along the way, David vents about Amazon, the guys react to the latest headlines—including George Clooney becoming a French citizen, the infamous swag gag, and how their skiing adventures somehow went viral (???). Dana’s infamous cutouts are back, the guys explain why money is no longer an issue, and the chaos is dialed all the way up. Packed with sound effects, side tangents, and plenty of laughs, this episode kicks off the year in true Dana & David fashion.

Let’s revisit a fun conversation with Larry David.

Let’s revisit iconic lines, life philosophies, and Hans and Franz with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Let’s revisit hosting nerves, playing arenas, and addiction with John Mulaney.

David’s sick, but the conversation doesn’t miss a beat. He and Dana talk about the one thing that’ll get you through Christmas, becoming your best self, and the best advice their dads ever gave them. They also reminisce about Rob Reiner, cover some news, and oh, and Dana brings PROPS!

The guys revisit a love of male comedians, hosting SNL at 7, and cinematic soulmates with Drew Barrymore.

Dana and David welcome Paul Feig for a dapper deep-dive through comedy history. Paul and David relive their audition grind—including a Tales from the Crypt saga—before Paul breaks down why he traded stand-up for the director’s chair. He revisits one of his early gigs directing The Office, then shares stories from Bridesmaids and Ghostbusters. Plus he adds in some sharp SNL and comedy commentary.

Dana and David kick things off with the big stuff: the potential Netflix–Warner Bros. merger—and the very bold text David sent Ted Sarandos about it. Then they sit down with director-producer Dan Farah to unpack his hit documentary The Age of Disclosure, the SXSW standout that went on to become Amazon Prime Video’s highest-grossing documentary ever. Farah walks the guys through the filmmaking process, the questions that still linger, and which films—like Close Encounters and The Abyss—surprisingly get the phenomenon right. And don’t miss the lively “Buzzing Around” segment after the interview. (You can check out Dan's doc at https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Age-of-Disclosure/0NVVP9AVUZEJKG9CJC4RQE9J27).

Let's revisit the bad boys of SNL and heat vs fame with Chris Rock.

Dana and David discuss how it’s time to bring back Christmas trees before discussing movies - like the history of Avatar, Wicked, and secret stories from the set of The Wizard Of Oz. Then, it’s time for an AI themed Buzzing Around segment with some news of Kim Kardashian and the Olsen twins to top it all off.

Actor Billy Crudup joins Dana and David for a lively conversation about his expansive stage and screen career — from unforgettable theater experiences (including a few horror stories) to the highs of live performance. They dig into his edgy role on The Morning Show and his upcoming film Jay Kelly (starring alongside Adam Sandler and George Clooney). Plus, the trio takes a detour to unpack the meaning of the American Dream and debate the best Westerns ever made — no, not the hotel chain.

Let’s revisit the soft-core porn art department, The Town, and the SNL 3-timers club with Jon Hamm.

Dana and David deliver a fun heaping of laughs in this post Thanksgiving special with boring stories from the road, reviews of stuff they’ve been watching, a brand new Buzzing Around segment, and why Arizona banned porn… Plus, a quick round of news.

Let's revisit memories of John Belushi, athletes hosting SNL, and risky jokes with Al Franken.