Our Americana

In Retrospective 3, Josh discusses how 24 harrowing hours changed his life and the course of True Crime Bullsh**. He discusses how an incident re-shaped his vision for the first episode of the podcast, and his view on true crime and its darkness. Plus, the impact of that first episode on listeners, and the impact of those listeners on Josh.

10th Anniversary Retreat
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TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands
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TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica
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Retrospective 2 takes us to the origin of the investigation; where Josh's interest in storytelling evolved into his obsession of needing to know everything. And it started in a surprising place: a bound book of correspondence between two teenage girls and their landlord. What started as comedic found writing, became a mystery that people could not let go. And as Josh made his way through it, while working on TCB, he learned about investigations and their repercussions.

This is parts one and two of The Karen & Ellen Letters, Josh's first full-fledged investigation.

10th Anniversary Retreat
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TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands
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TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica
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Cast:
Sara Stapleton as Karen
Sara Kitcher as Ellen
Jeff Powell as Mark
Matt Peelen as Rob

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To celebrate 10 years in podcasting, we're spending the summer going back in time and both highlighting key episodes and telling the stories behind them; you’ll get new behind-the-scenes information about what was happening in life, in various investigations, and in the world that impacted these important episodes and their podcasts. You’ll learn how Josh started podcasting, how he started investigating Israel Keyes, some hilarious and terrifying stories from the road, and some really vulnerable and personal stories.

We start our first retrospective at, duh, the beginning. Josh shares how both his podcasting journey and Keyes obsession began. He discusses his time in Seattle and on the Olympic Peninsula, how he ended up on the East Coast, his first deep-dive investigation (not Keyes) and how that led to his second (Keyes).

And this kicks off an early episode of his very first show, Our Americana, entitled Van Life. 

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A high desert ghost town is revitalized as an unincorporated, off-the-grid artists' community. In this ungoverned, un-policed town of 219, law enforcement consists of a self-appointed, five-person Intervention and Safety Team. This town and its governing by volunteerism will change the way you think about law enforcement, guns, ethics, and their impact on community.

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This week's guests:

Connie Mayhew: Connie owns and operates Madrid's one and only roadside attraction, a donation-based photo park.

Mike T: Mike is the self-appointed head of a volunteer security team, in a town with no police.

Our Americana is produced & hosted by Josh Hallmark.

Featured Music:
Dave Depper - Perspective;
Charles Atlas - Demus;
Nowhere Home - Happy The Playground Chimes;
Alex Fitch - Secret Place

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This episode concludes the story of Luna the Whale and his time in Gold River. The town comes together to save Luna, and the town struggles in the wake of his absence and the lessons learned.

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This week's guests:
Jamie James: Jamie is a member of the Mowachaht / Muchalaht First Nation tribe. He became Luna's caretaker and closest friend in Gold River.

Donna Schneider: Donna was a chef on the Uchuck, a regional cruise ship based in Gold River. Donna was one of the first people to encounter Luna and, against all odds, developed a friendship with the orphaned whale.

Eugene Amos: Eugene is also a member of the Mowachaht / Muchalaht First Nation tribe. He moved to Gold River after the passing of his grandmother and almost immediately encountered another tragedy. But through a strange prophecy and the arrival of Luna, his views of the world and his relationships changed.

Michael Parfit & Suzanne Chisholm: Michael and Suzanne were sent to Gold River, by Smithsonian, to cover the story of Luna. They stayed on through multiple attempts at rescuing and relocating him, and later turned Luna's story into a documentary, The Whale. www.thewhale.com

Our Americana is produced & hosted by Josh Hallmark.

Featured Music:
Dave Depper - Perspective;
Cloudjumper - Orca;
Lee Rosevere - Shimmering;
Dexter Britain - The Stars Are Out;
Phillipp Weigl - The Scent of Cedars;
El Perro del Mar - From The Valley To The Stars
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In the season two premiere we head to rural Berkshire County, where the coalescence of agriculture, city weekenders, and a regional currency helped create and spread the farm-to-table movement.

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Guests:
Alice Maggio: Alice is the Local Currency Program Director at the Schumacher Center for New Economics, where she is further developing Berkshire County’s own local currency, BerkShares. www.berkshare.org

Andy Pruhenski & Abby Webster: Abby and Andy are Berkshires natives and own and operate a housewares store in downtown Great Barrington, One Mercantile. www.sett.onemercantile.com

Featured Music:
Dave Depper - Perspective;
Keshco - Waterback;
Podington Bear - Golden Hour;
Zachary Wilson - Depths of Heaven
Music available at: www.freemusicarchive.com

What happens when the town you live in, your home, your culture, your community, becomes a trend? And then, what happens when people declare that trend dead? This week we go to the tiny West Texas art mecca, in the middle of nowhere, to find out.

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This week's guests:
John Patrick |
John is a co-founder of Communitie Marfa. He and his partner create sustainable art and apparel. John is passionate about art, and the integrity of art.

LeAna & Glen Clifton |
LeAna & Glen have lived in Marfa since 2007. They moved there from South Africa, by way of Austin, to start their family and a porcelain jewelry business.

Brit Webb |
Brit is an 88 year old Marfa staple; he's lived there for over 72 years. He pre-dates Donald Judd. We talked about the history of the town, adaptation to the constant of change, and the best pieces of his life well-lived.

Featured Music:
Dave Depper - Perspective;
The Fucked Up Beat - Where Is Everybody/Marfa Ghost Lights;
Hank Hobson - Trip Across The Country;
MUTE - Thru The Dusty Clouds;
Josh Woodward - Gravity;
Will Bangs - Putting Up With The Bullshit
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This week we head to a small and sleepy island town, that somehow exists in quiet isolation in the shadow of New York City.

In this episode, you'll meet a New York mother who wanted her kids to have the free and easy childhood she had in 1970s Oregon; the man who saved his family home by turning his father's hoarding into a business of selling nostalgia; and a young man who has used his political career to help revitalize the island he grew up on.

But just as I was about to finish the episode, something happened. A community came together to help save one of their own, in the most touching way.

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This week's guests:
Jessica Wolk-Stanley
Jessica is an illustrator and the creative dynamo behind The Friendly Robot Studio, headquartered on City Island in the Bronx. She and hard-working robots specialize in fun and silly illustrations for the children's and teenage market. If you ask very nicely though, she also does character design, caricatures, hand-lettering, comics, logos and even maps.

Dan Treiber
Dan is a City Island native; a clam-digger. He turned his father's hoarding habit into an industry of selling nostalgia, first at the Brooklyn Flea, and then eventually to a storefront on City Island Avenue. He used this business venture, Dan's Parents' House, to buy the house he grew up in. And then to buy the building his store is in: a historic building on the island, which he is now restoring. Dan is at the forefront of the movement to turn City Island into a tourist destination.

John Doyle
John has lived on City Island for twenty five years, since he was five. It was there that John first became involved in civic justice, organizing protests against the surge in Iraq and forums to support living wage jobs for college workers. John has been involved in politics ever since, and is now considered the unofficial mayor of City Island. He's currently running for City Council.

Rabia Graney
Rabia is a retired nurse and has lived on City Island for close to twenty years. She is an active member of the City Islanders & Friends Facebook group, which led to her taking the lead in the search and coordination of services for Jen.

Featured Music:
Dave Depper - Perspective;
Modern Language - The Reprise;
Lee Rosevere - Let's Start At The Beginning;
Lee Rosevere - Looking Back;
Michael Howard - Child Come Home;
Alex Fitch - We Call This Home;
Aaron Mist - Whales Inside;
Alexandre Navarro - Dust v1
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Deep in the Santa Cruz mountains is a cluster of towns...

San Lorenzo Valley is an area where people believe in bigfoot, where they believe that ghosts haunt the woods, where during the 70s and 80s close to a dozen serial killers buried bodies and found victims. It's a place where people believe a spaceship is buried under the mountain, which creates electromagnetic abnormalities. And despite all these weird things, it's a loving place with a strong community, where people look out for each other.

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This week's guests:

Kenn Sugiyama
Kenn and I have been friends since I was eighteen. He was one of my first gay friends, and we've shared a rather sordid history, including being scammed by the same con artist. When I was twenty, Kenn and I spent a weekend at the Brookdale Lodge, a notorious haunted hotel with a scandalous and mysterious history. In this episode we try to remember through the years and some mind-altering substances what exactly happened that strange, strange night.

Maryanne Porter
Maryanne is the founder and lead paranormal investigator of the Santa Cruz Ghost Hunters. She is also the author of Haunted Santa Cruz, which is being released by Arcadia Publishing in mid-September. We chatted about her explorations of the San Lorenzo Valley and why its community is so eccentric and accepting.

Lisa Robinson
Lisa and her family have lived in Boulder Creek since 1990. She is the board president for the San Lorenzo Valley Historical Museum. She is also the Volunteer Collections Manager at the San Lorenzo Valley Museum and volunteers at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, and at the Genealogy Room of the Santa Cruz County Library. She is a member of the Santa Cruz Museum of Art and History (MAH) Landmark Committee, and is the chair of the Santa Cruz MAH Publications Committee. Her other interests include miniature model building, genealogy, local archaeology and all forms of digital media development. She is a member of the National Association of Miniature Enthusiasts (NAME).

Michael Rugg
Michael is the founder and operator of the Bigfoot Discovery Project & Museum. He is a former digital artist, who worked with Apple and Atari throughout the 80s and 90s. His first bigfoot sighting was as a teen, and he has been collecting information and artifacts ever since.

Meghan Costella
Meghan is a health care coordinator who recently relocated from the San Lorenzo Valley to Washington state. She was also my best friend in high school. I spent much of my high school and early college careers torturing and terrifying her by dragging her around Brookdale and the Brookdale Lodge. This podcast interview was the first time we'd talked in over fifteen years.

Our Americana is produced & hosted by Josh Hallmark.

Featured Music:
Dave Depper - Perspective;
Future Islands - Inch of Dust;
Podington Bear - Morning Mist;
Maps and Diagrams - Last Train Home;
Duke Ellington - Washington Wobble;
David Szesztay - Romance;
Aaron Mist - Whales Inside;
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Morgantown is a place that defies expectations. Nestled in the lush, green foothills of the Appalachians, is the town that is home to West Virginia University, a large coal-mining population, and West Virginia's oldest gay bar. Against all odds, this gay bar, Vice Versa, has become the center of Morgantown's thriving and connected community. This week we talk to three "sisters" who refuse to be silenced.

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Guests:

Asra Nomani - A former reporter for the Wall Street Journal, and the author of “Standing Alone: An American Woman’s Struggle for the Soul of Islam.” Asra was recently the subject of the PBS documentary, "The Mosque in Morgantown" and lead the Pearl Project, a faculty-student investigation into the murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

Christina B. Morgan - A Morgantown native and the drag host at Vice Versa, West Virginia's oldest gay bar.

Ari May Lilli - A twenty year old trans girl who has documented her entire transition through a video blog on YouTube.

Our Americana is hosted by Josh Hallmark.

Music by: Dave Depper, Will Bangs, Alex Fitch, Dr. Turtle, Podington Bear, and David Szesztay

On the peninsula of a peninsula, in the northwest of the Northwest, there is a town whose citizens pride themselves on being masters of trade; and that trade is less commodity and more currency. Some call it Busytown, others refer to it as Lynchian; and in many ways, it's where this podcast began.

Today we head to Port Townsend, and tell stories of tazing deer, a boat race to Alaska, a family who dresses as superheroes, feasting on roadkill, and me slowly losing my mind in a cabin in the woods.

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Our Americana is hosted by Josh Hallmark

This week's guests: Erica Dirksen, Matthew Nienow, and Xep Campbell

Music by: Dave Depper, Will Bangs, Alex Fitch, Podington Bear, and DR

The island of ponies... and food trucks.

Chincoteague is a small island off the coast of Virginia that is inhabited by wild ponies. You may remember the book "Misty of Chincoteague" - Yeah, that Chincoteague.

In this episode I chat with 3 pairs of Millennials (all of whom are foodies): A couple who runs a gourmet doughnut truck, sisters-in-law who recently arrived on the island and are still trying to find their footing there, and best friends who have spent most of their lives on Chincoteague. We talk about the food trucks craze, the importance of your local mailman, and, of course, those ponies.

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This week's guests:

Brea Reeves & Ben Wang
www.sandyponydonut.com

Rosie & Kate Moot
http://www.picotaqueria.com/

Laura Davis & Morgan Ross
http://tideandthyme.com/

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Music: Perspective by Dave Depper; I'll Miss You by Will Bangs; Serenity by Podington Bear; Starling by Podington Bear; Pink Blossoms by Podington Bear; Sepia by Podington Bear; Wavy Glass by Podington Bear; Daydreamer by Podington Bear; Stars Are Out by Podington Bear

It seemed only right that the first episode of Our Americana's podcast be about Petoskey. It was our favorite stop on the trip, and a place we've come to speak of us our own personal eden: that place you hope to end up.

In the premiere episode I chat with five Millennials, who have recently moved (or returned) to small town Petoskey, about what it was like leaving the big city for a small and rural town. We discuss the perks and challenges of small town living, dissect the paradigm shift of young people returning to small towns, and try to figure out what makes Petoskey such a magical place. Plus, lots of Gilmore Girls references.

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This week's guests:

Zoe Marshall-Rashid, 32
Zoe grew up in Petoskey and recently moved back after living in San Francisco, New York, and Mexico. Upon her return, she opened a dance studio in town: www.ZoeDance.net |

Kalin Sheick, 28
Kalin grew up outside of Detroit, traveling to Petoskey every summer as a child. Last year she and her husband decided to make Petoskey home. Kalin runs a boutique floral design studio from her lavender farm: www.stemsandsprigs.com |

Katie Potts, 23
Katie just decided to return home after finishing college in Chicago. She opened a cheese shop in downtown last October, where she's been making a name for herself as Petoskey's resident cheese monger: www.PetoskeyCheese.com |

Danielle Charles, 32
After graduating from Petoskey High School, Danielle lived in Seattle, Boulder, Vermont, and even England, before deciding Petoskey was truly where she belonged. She and her husband now own a very hip coffee shop in downtown Petoskey, where Andrew and I spent many mornings: www.DripworksCoffee.com |

Tracy Thomson, 31
Tracy had already performed ballet and modern dance all over the world when he decided that small town life was what made him happiest. He returned to his hometown, despite being anxious that he couldn't make a relationship or his career work there. Since his arrival, he's married the man of his dreams and started a successful career in event planning. //

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Music: Perspective by Dave Depper; I'll Miss You by Will Bangs; Secret Place by Alex Fitch; I'm So Glad You Exist by Will Bangs; Pretty Build by Podington Bear; Sincerely Yours by Podington Bear

A man ahead of his time, built an entire town around the timber industry. A century later, the town is building itself around and in support of a local nuisance. Finding comedy in stress, it turns out, has been a decades-long tradition in Longview, Washington. Plus, the best way to survive a volcano eruption; and how fun, industry, and ecology can thrive in symbiosis.

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Written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark Research by Vanessa York

Guest: Patrick KubinMusic by Borrtex, Podington Bear, Broke for Free, Cheribum / Courtesy of Free Music Archive

A four-person support group, for parents of children with autism, inspires an entire community to become Canada's first Autism-Friendly Town.

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Written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark Guests: Joan Chaisson, Cathy Lomond, Cindy Goudie-LaPolla, Wanda Merrigan, Candace Matthews

Featuring "Welcome Home, Son" by Radical Face
Other music by Lee Rosevere, Borrtex, Scott Holmes, Chris Zabriskie / Courtesy of Free Music Archive

In this collaboration with The Story Behind podcast, we explore the story behind Roadside Attractions. We take a look at how three Roadside Attractions have impacted and been impacted by community: including the world's largest beagle, the world's (former) largest cherry pie pan, and the Unclaimed Baggage Center (a museum of lost luggage).

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Written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark & Emily Prokop

Music by Utidur, Mike Durek, and Ryan Andersen / Courtesy of Free Music Archive

When a rural town's only high school is in jeopardy, the community comes together to change it in some very radical ways. And then the school, in turn, changes the community.

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Written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark

Music by Jon Luc Hefferman, Kai Engel, Mike Durek, Squire Tuck, Broke for Free, David Hilowitz, and Lee Rosevere / Courtesy of Free Music Archive

A tornado forever changes the rural town of Greensburg in the most unexpected way. And we separate ideas and movements from the constraints of politics.

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Written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Research Assistance by Torey Griffith

Music by Saito, Chris Zabriskie, Kai Engel, David Mumford, Lee Rosevere, Idmonster / Courtesy of Free Music Archive

A rural town, known as The Troll Capital of the World, unites over the attempted banning of a book reading and its very close-to-home consequences.

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Written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Research by Vanessa York, Nicola Jezequel, Shannon DeFilippas, Jennifer Menges

Guests: JoEllen Graber, Amy Lyle, and Sarah
Library recordings from: Carly Fisher, Jane Burns, and Julie Plotkin

Featuring "Legend of the Wild Horse" by Emily Haines & The Soft Skeleton
Other music by Lee Rosevere, Borrtex, Ketsa, Derek Clegg, Chris Zabriskie / Courtesy of Free Music Archive

We head to South Florida to take a very candid look at the struggles of drug addiction and recovery through the lens of a listener.

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Music by: El Perro del Mar, Chris Zabriskie, Lee Rosevere, and Freya Ridings

Hot off the heels of #VanLife, we stick to the open road and explore American Roadside Attractions. Manatees, vacuums, Big Fish, and some listener stories.

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Music by: Drake Stafford, Broke For Free, Three Chain Links, Maxim Kornyshev, Will Bangs, and Cloudjumper

Josh catches up with the four #VanLifers who he chatted with last July. Jennifer and Josh talk about the privilege of experience. Alex finds solace and liberation in a disconnected life. And we find out whether Giddi and Jace made it back out onto the road after having their baby.


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Seth tries to uncover how exactly the epidemics began and continue to occur. Jesse comes through recovery and starts the long road to creating a new life for himself. Holli, once a beacon for hope in Austin, struggles with the intersections of religion, media, and welfare; and then ultimately loses hope, herself.


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We pause the story in Austin, to talk more personally about HIV.

Music by Chris Zabriskie & Luke Pigott.


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In a small, rural Indiana town, what started as a drug epidemic became an HIV crisis. Government, religion, public health, the community, and the media coalesce in their various attempts to help a town in peril.

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In a town with no radio or cellular waves, with no wifi or cable, life is wonderfully quiet. We examine our strange relationships with technology and meet a woman who suffers from electromagnetic sensitivity so bad, she spent a year living in a Faraday cage.

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In a rural Iowa town rooted in Transcendental Meditation and home to the microcommunity movement, community-building and intention have been redefined.

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A northern Minnesota town, struggling to find its economic identity, gets a little help from an unlikely resident and his uncanny routine. Plus, turtle racing.


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In 2001, the small town of Gold River was adopted by a baby orca. Over the next five years, Luna the Whale would both unite and spark debate amongst the previously segregated town. And he would put this isolated Vancouver Island community on the map and at the forefront of an even bigger conversation about what happens when conservation and humanity collide.

Guests:
Donna Schneider
Eugene Amos
Michael Parfit
Suzanne Chisholm

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Music:
Dave Depper - Perspective;
Lee Rosevere - Watching Whales on the Moon;
Cloudjumper - Orca;
Sergey Cheremisinov - Forgotten Stars;
Aaron Mist - Wait for Me;
Aaron Mist - Whales Inside
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Our Americana listener Adrienne walks us through her hometown. We talk about how tragedy shaped her, politics and conversation in North Carolina, and life in a town full of memories. Plus, a song about bears.

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Our Americana is produced & hosted by Josh Hallmark.

Featured Music:
Rho - Long Drive Home;
Scott Holmes - Childhood Memories;
Luke Pigott - Mourning Breathing;
Ballpen - The Hometown Dream;
Podington Bear - Clouds Pass Softly Deux;
Podington Bear - Little Do;
Podington Bear - Sunset Stroll;
Adrianna Krikl - Know Where
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In 2013, hundred dollar bills started mysteriously appearing throughout Salem, Oregon; in diaper boxes, tip cups, people's cars. This is the story of the mysterious person hiding them, and how their generosity became contagious.

This week's guests:
Heather Martin, JoAnn Culbertson, and Rob Whelan

Our Americana is produced & hosted by Josh Hallmark.
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Sponsor Our Americana at www.patreon.com/ouramericana -or- www.ouramericanapodcast.com

Special thanks to Night Cadet for the use of their song "Seaside."

Other Featured Music:
Dave Depper - Perspective;
Will Bangs - The Soft Glow of Christmas Lights;
David Szesztay - Take Care;
Dave Depper - Acoustic 2;
Will Bangs - You Make My Heart Sing So Loud;
Dave Depper - Wholesome 1;
Josh Woodward - Thanks for Coming (Instrumental);
Steve Combs - Thank You (Remix)
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It's how this whole thing started. When we set off on the open road that May evening, we knew our lives were about to change; we had no idea exactly how. We had no idea exactly how much, how wonderfully; how it would take us to right here, right now.

#VanLife is, of course, bigger than just us and our travels. And so, I reached out to some of our fellow roadtrippers to see how life on the road has changed them and their perspective on America.

And, just like with any great roadtrip, some music for the ride.

This week's Insta-guests:

Alex @agirlandhervan
Jace & Giddi @wheninvan
Jennifer @treeoftravel

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Featured Music:
Dave Depper - Perspective;
Terry Jackson - A Portion of Foxes;
The Impossebulls - Road Warriors;
Westy Reflector - The Long Road Ahead;
The Bowmans - On The Road;
Rho - Shady Ridge Row;
Josh Woodward - Follow The Road;
Jack Kotz - I'm The Only Road You Know;
Ze Trigueiros - Big Road Of Burravoe;
Will Bangs - I'm So Glad You Exist;
spinningmerkaba - The Stars Look Different

Music available at: www.freemusicarchive.com