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Welcome to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast. Dwayne has navigated the business world for over 35 years, owning close to 30 businesses in 12 distinct industries. Today, entrepreneurship often seems more about glitz, glamour, and a celebrity venture. On this podcast, Dwayne collaborates with overlooked but accomplished entrepreneurs, delving into their journeys of forging exceptional enterprises. Join them as they share their personal journeys, lessons learned, and strategies that keep them moving forward. Let’s celebrate the true essence of entrepreneurship and inspire the next wave of business trailblazers.
- 167 - 164. Leading with Vision | Brian Scudamore
In 1994, five years into running his junk removal business, Brian Scudamore called all 11 employees into a morning meeting, apologized for letting them down, and fired every one of them. He went from five trucks to one. What he built next started with a single page describing a future nobody else could see yet.
In this episode:
Why Brian's grandparents' San Francisco surplus store was robbed only twice in 20 years while neighbouring shops were hit almost weeklyThe 1994 reset: owning the failure ("it was all on me") and rebuilding around the right peopleThe "painted picture": a one-page, double-sided vision written in present tense, and how the 1998 version's goal of the top 30 metros came down to 28 of 30 with 90 days leftHow a failed 1997 summer franchise model, the only two years the business lost money, led to year-round franchisingThe five-minute sheet-of-paper exercise Brian uses to pull his leadership team out of a dark momentHow one question about a dream trip got former COO Cameron Herold to picture a visionAudio Timestamps:
00:00 - Vision Sets Direction
00:29 - Podcast Intro Guest Bio
02:05 - Entrepreneurial Roots
03:12 - Grandparents Respect Lesson
06:31 - Wisdom Over Time
10:12 - Impact Over Status
13:08 - Firing Everyone Reset
16:38 - Hiring For Culture Fit
18:51 - Shared Vision Leadership
22:36 - Painted Picture Framework
25:49 - Owning Failure Learning
27:04 - Clarity Drives Scale
28:13 - Painted Picture Defined
29:55 - Vision That Unites Teams
30:31 - Scaling Vision Across Companies
32:48 - Making Vision A Ritual
34:58 - Never Lower The Bar
37:17 - Courage To Pivot
40:02 - Willing To Fail Lessons
45:48 - Possibility As A Mindset
47:32 - Teaching Vivid Vision
51:04 - Questions Drive Innovation
53:26 - Closing And Next Episode
Guest Bio:
Serial entrepreneur, Dragons’ Den investor, and author Brian Scudamore has always taken the road less travelled. At just 19 years old, he pioneered the industry of professional junk removal with 1-800-GOT-JUNK?, turning a chore people avoid into an exceptional customer service experience. Then he scaled that success into two more home-service brands, WOW 1 DAY PAINTING and Shack Shine, under theO2E Brands banner.
Resources mentioned:
Brian’s Books - WTF: Willing to Fail and BYOB: Build Your Own Business Be Your Own BossVivid Vision book by Cameron HeroldStart With Why book by Simon SinekConnect with Brian Scudamore
https://www.linkedin.com/in/scudamore/
https://www.instagram.com/brianscudamore
https://www.facebook.com/bscudamore/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpQVYv5YMEqKZd5u7ANifYA
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 04 Nov 2026 - 55min - 166 - 163. The Power of a Trusted Circle | The Honey Badgers
Seventeen years ago, four strangers decided to build something almost no one commits to: a mastermind group that outlasts the businesses, marriages, and identities its members walk in with. In Part 2, Dwayne sits back down with three of the four, Curt Cronin, Michael Grandjean, and Sam Hazledine (missing Keiron McCammon)to unpack what actually kept the group alive that long, and what it cost them to get there.
In this episode:
Why Curt distinguishes a mentor ("shape me in their likeness"), a coach ("hold a container and ask me questions"), and a consultant ("give me the answer") as three completely different relationships and why conflating them causes frictionSam's case for why "in business, generally speaking, the coaches are not the ones who are successful at business" and what that selection bias means for anyone hiring oneCurt's math on the actual hours he has left with his teenage daughter based on their current visiting cadence, and how that number changed how he shows up for herWhy Sam believes selection, who's in the room, matters more than structure, using the analogy that "date night doesn't work if you're married to the wrong person"The origin story: how Curt, Michael, and Sam actually formed the group after meeting through Tony Robbins' Platinum Partners program, and why Tony himself turned down an invite to joinMichael's take on the single biggest shift that took the group from well-meaning to effective: bringing in real structure and prepEpisode Timestamps:
00:00 Mentorship Mindset
00:35 Podcast Intro
01:38 Creating Your Reality
04:21 Beyond Tactics to Mindset
07:14 Accountability and Growth
10:03 Aligned Vision Matters
15:21 Belief and Creation
21:27 Finding Great Mentors
25:12 Mentor vs Coach
28:52 Coaching Limits in Business
30:51 Curiosity Over Assumptions
34:12 Resetting Miscommunication
36:29 Courageous Conversations at Work
38:51 Building Trust With Windshield Time
39:58 Starting a Mastermind Group
41:22 Structure Prep and Standards
43:36 Finding the Right People
47:00 Origin Story and Commitment
51:50 Speaking to the Fifth Person
52:54 Parting Shots and Farewell
59:50 Podcast Outro and Disclaimer
LINKS TO PREVIOUS EPISODES:
https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/5-beyond-achievement-unlocking-fulfillment-with-dr-sam-hazledine/
https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/121-collapse-courage-and-comeback-with-michael-grandjean/
Follow The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for more conversations like this one, and catch Part 1 of this mastermind episode if you haven't yet.
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 28 Oct 2026 - 1h 00min - 165 - 162. Beyond Advice | The Honey Badgers
Seventeen years, six men, and one rule: no advice allowed. On this panel, three members of Dwayne Kerrigan's mastermind group, the "Honey Badgers", pull back the curtain on the framework that's carried them through startups, exits, burnout, and grief, and explain why the group that changes them most is the one that refuses to tell them what to do.
In this episode:
Curt Cronin breaks down "dynamic subordination," the Navy SEAL handoff principle the group uses to know who leads and who steps back in a crisisSam Hazledine explains why "nature abhors a vacuum" is the real reason humans default to giving advice, and why it usually backfiresMichael Grandjean opens up about losing everything and the one thing that got him through it: learning to forgive himselfDwayne and the group unpack the "event, meaning, emotion, behavior, result" chain and how the stories we attach to events quietly run our livesSam introduces the idea of becoming a "mindful steward" instead of a "benevolent dictator" as a business scalesThe group previews Dwayne's upcoming Founders Council program, built on the same gestalt-style mentorship modelAbout the guests: Curt Cronin is a former U.S. Navy SEAL turned entrepreneur and a founding member of the Honey Badgers mastermind group. Michael Grandjean spent 30 years in construction for the Department of Defense and the U.S. government before rebuilding his career after a period of significant personal and financial loss. Sam Hazledine is a physician based in New Zealand and founder of a medical staffing, technology, and research business. All three have been meeting with Dwayne Kerrigan as part of the same mastermind group for 17 years.
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 Brotherhood Origins
01:10 Meet The Honey Badgers
02:06 Sam Hazledine Introduction
03:19 Mike Grandjean and Curt Cronin Introductions
05:04 How the Mastermind Group Formed
07:07 Why the Group Works
10:06 Beyond Advice Gestalt Feedback
16:05 Trust and Safe Space
20:07 Dynamic Subordination Explained
23:21 Scaling Leadership Mindful Steward
28:53 Enough More and Seasons
31:41 Stuck In The Middle
32:16 Paying The Price
33:34 Forgive Yourself
35:14 Pain Versus Suffering
38:25 Blind Spots And Truth
42:26 Power Of Story
49:38 Intimacy And Proximity
54:31 Mastermind Framework
58:31 Proximity Is Power
01:02:57 Closing And Next Week
Follow The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for Part 2 of this conversation, and find Curt Cronin, Michael Grandjean, and Sam Hazledine's own episodes in the show's back catalog.
Links to Previous Episodes:
https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/5-beyond-achievement-unlocking-fulfillment-with-dr-sam-hazledine/
https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/121-collapse-courage-and-comeback-with-michael-grandjean/
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 21 Oct 2026 - 1h 04min - 164 - 161. Scaling FlyGuys with Operational Excellence | FlyGuys CEO Joe Stough
FlyGuys CEO Joe Stough returns for Part 2 of this conversation on scaling technology companies through operational excellence, culture, and AI.
Joe breaks down the four-element operational excellence management system he built plus the cultural foundation of the golden rule and iron sharpens iron and explains how the company's AI data infrastructure platform now serves seven industries through one configurable pipeline.
If you're building a company that needs to scale past its current ceiling, this episode is a playbook.
In this episode:
Joe walks through FlyGuys' four-element Operational Excellence Management System (OEMS) — leadership, individual development, incident learning, and continuous improvement — built on a fifth "element zero": culture.He unpacks FlyGuys' five cultural principles: the golden rule, iron sharpens iron, goal zero, raving fans, and one for all and all for one.Joe details the Waitr acquisition that used almost all of the company's post-SPAC cash within two weeks of going public — a transaction later written down by $190 million.He explains how FlyGuys' AI data infrastructure platform now serves seven verticals (construction, solar, asset management, agriculture, public safety, insurance, and telecom) through one configurable pipeline.Joe shares his networking philosophy — prioritizing "vision alignment" over job titles, including the mid-level ExxonMobil manager who opened the door to a multi-year enterprise contract.He gives direct advice for business owners bringing AI into their operations: don't skip the architecture expertise, and pair AI orchestration with real industry knowledge.Episode Time Stamps:
00:00 Iron Sharpens Iron Culture
00:28 Podcast Intro and Recap
01:29 Scaling Lessons and AI Risks
03:21 Pricing and Org Costs Trap
06:47 Operational Excellence Foundation
10:15 Mapping the Process Day One
13:33 Defects and Incident Learning
15:12 Customer Journey Method
18:53 Culture Principles Element Zero
24:55 OEMS Elements Breakdown
28:20 How It Became Intentional
30:43 Can OE Reduce Failures
32:46 Waitr Acquisition Mistake
37:16 Waitr Deal Fallout
38:56 Mentor Sam Smolik
41:17 Networking Beyond Titles
44:05 Vision Alignment Story
47:43 Risk and Diversification
53:22 Platform for Complexity
57:20 Vertical Workflow Examples
01:04:56 Agentic AI and Scaling
01:12:48 Final Scaling Playbook
01:18:32 Closing and Where to Find
Resources Mentioned:
Interpersonal Technology: The Art and Science of Personal and Professional Effectiveness by James A. Gwaltney (Author)
The Power of Goal ZERO: A Practical Leadership Guide for Achieving Superior Performance by Sam Smolik (Author)
The Daily Pursuit of Excellence: The 4 Keys to Achieving Superior Performance by Sam Smolik (Author)
About Joe Stough: Joe Stough is CEO of FlyGuys, an AI data infrastructure platform serving industries including construction, solar, agriculture, insurance, and public safety. He previously served as President and COO of Waitr, and earlier built Impact, an operational excellence and safety management software adopted by ExxonMobil, Chevron, Total, and Koch Industries. Stough sits on the board of directors of Ducks Unlimited alongside his mentor Sam Smolik, author of Daily Pursuit of Excellence and Goal Zero, whose influence shaped FlyGuys' operational excellence system.
Connect with Joe Stough:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-stough/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/flyguys.io/
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 14 Oct 2026 - 1h 20min - 163 - 160. Building an Intentional Culture | FlyGuys CEO Joe Stough
Joe Stough built a piece of software that ExxonMobil, Shell, and ConocoPhillips ran their worldwide safety operations on and he says none of it would have worked without a psychological framework he almost let disappear along with the mentor who created it. In this episode, he traces the throughline of intentional culture across three very different companies.
In this episode:
How Joe's early experience running Dynamic Systems International shaped the fundamentals he built his next company, Syntex, on — starting with hiring a lawyer on day oneThe Interpersonal Technology framework — eight personality styles built on Carl Jung's archetypes — that Joe credits for turning daily blowups with his first CFO into a working partnershipHow Joe's Impact software went from one language in one country to twenty-four languages in a hundred and eighty countries in a single year, landing ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil, and Shell as worldwide clients within six monthsSelling Syntex to IHS in 2010 in an all-cash deal — and being pulled back to the office six months into "retirement"Why Joe took over teaching the Interpersonal Technology program himself after his mentor, Dr. James Gwaltney, passed away in 2016How FlyGuys runs an "Uberized" marketplace of over 22,000 drone pilots delivering data instead of rides or foodTime Stamps:
00:00 Intentional Culture Mindset
00:40 Podcast Welcome and Guest Intro
04:58 FlyGuys Business Model Explained
09:00 From Syntex to Waitr to FlyGuys
14:40 Early Failure Lessons Learned
20:09 Finding Mentors and First Investor
25:22 Interpersonal Technology Origin Story
31:25 Eight Personality Styles Overview
35:36 Thinking vs Feeling
36:17 Choicing and Dreaming Spectrum
37:12 Organizer vs Presenter Styles
38:06 Building Teams and Culture
39:38 Hiring for Strength Balance
40:50 Mentor Legacy and IP Story
48:47 Culture as Career Thread
52:35 Syntex Sale and Return
54:23 Global Data and Safety Index
01:00:20 Waitr Origin and Hypergrowth
01:04:53 Scaling Lessons and Replatforming
01:06:56 Wrap Up and Next Episode
About Joe Stough: Joe Stough is CEO of FlyGuys: a drone data collection company operating an Uberized marketplace with more than 22,000 pilots across the U.S. He founded Syntex in 1995, building the Impact software platform into what became a dominant operational excellence system used by companies including ExxonMobil, Shell, and ConocoPhillips, before selling the company in 2010. He later served as President and COO of Waitr, taking the food delivery company public on Nasdaq via SPAC in 2018. Joe now holds the intellectual property rights to the Interpersonal Technology framework and personally teaches it to leadership teams; he has been featured in Forbes, Fortune, and Entrepreneur Magazine, and sits on the board of Ducks Unlimited.
Connect: Follow The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for Part 2 of this conversation, and connect with Joe Stough and FlyGuys to learn more about the Interpersonal Technology program.
Connect with Joe Stough:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-stough/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/flyguys.io/
Resources Mentioned:
Interpersonal Technology: The Art and Science of Personal and Professional Effectiveness by James A. Gwaltney (Author)
The Power of Goal ZERO: A Practical Leadership Guide for Achieving Superior Performance by Sam Smolik (Author)
The Daily Pursuit of Excellence: The 4 Keys to Achieving Superior Performance by Sam Smolik (Author)
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 07 Oct 2026 - 1h 08min - 162 - 159. The Space Between Fear & Action | Michelle “Mace” Curran
At 500 knots each, two F-16s point straight at each other with less than a second to react, one of them upside down. That's the moment Michelle "Mace" Curran walks Dwayne through in Part 2 of this conversation, and it's just the entry point into a masterclass on what she calls "the space between": the pause between feeling fear and deciding what to do with it.
In this episode:
The near head-on collision during a Thunderbirds training pass, closing at roughly 1,000 mph, missing by what she believes was inches and the split-second decision-making that got both pilots through itWhy Michelle earned her call sign "Mace" (Mach at Circle Entry) by accidentally breaking the sound barrier on her second flight in Japan, and how she turned it into a badge of honorThe physical disruptor, wiggling her toes, that a flight instructor taught her to break out of over-control and hypervigilance, and the neuroscience behind why it worksWhy the Thunderbirds' hiring process (40 applicants, 3 spots, a 12-officer interview panel) weighs personality, composure, and preparation over raw technical skillHer "bubble" routine in her third year with the Thunderbirds, strict self-care boundaries that helped her show up better in a public-facing roleWhy she sees fear as a signal, not a stop sign, and how that reframe applies as much to a hard business call as it does to flying a fighter jetTime Stamps:
00:00 Competence Over Noise
00:33 Welcome Michelle “Mace” Curran
01:32 Imposter Syndrome Pivot
02:53 Bravery And Fear Reframed
07:20 The Space Between
12:03 Near Miss Decision Making
14:54 Physical Disruptors Tool
21:56 Fear Signals In The Body
23:29 High Performance Discipline
29:01 Hiring For Team Traits
33:39 Thunderbirds Selection Process
36:20 Prep Under Pressure
37:13 Working Interview Signals
38:32 Downtime Reveals Drive
39:31 Bias and Perception Checks
41:15 Women in Fighter Aviation
47:13 Media Noise and Unity
50:58 Leading for Bigger Impact
54:56 Self Care for Performance
59:06 Where to Find Michelle
01:00:09 Call Sign and Failure Lessons
01:04:19 Final Thanks
Michelle "Mace" Curran is a former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot who flew as a Thunderbirds lead solo and trained the incoming opposing solo pilot during her tenure on the team. Over a 13-year military career she flew combat missions and instrument approaches in extreme conditions, including a station in Misawa, Japan. She is now a keynote speaker and author of the children's book Upside Down Dreams and its sequel centered on fighter pilot call signs, and has written a book exploring fear and decision-making under pressure. She also runs corporate workshops and speaks widely on high performance, fear, and leadership.
Connect with Michelle
Website: https://macecurran.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mace_curran
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/macecurran/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/macecurran/
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 30 Sep 2026 - 1h 05min - 161 - 158. Fighter Pilot to Founder | Michelle "Mace" Curran
She's the second woman in history to fly lead solo for the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds and she still describes her early years in a fighter squadron as "classic imposter syndrome." Michelle "Mace" Curran spent years running from failure before she realized what was actually driving her forward, and in this conversation with Dwayne Kerrigan, she pulls back the curtain on the debrief culture that rebuilt her confidence — and the messy, control-freak transition from single-seat cockpit to solo entrepreneur.
In this episode:
How a moment in the bookstore at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum led, four years later, to Michelle's children's book What's Your Call Sign?Why Michelle calls her first Air Force assignment "classic imposter syndrome" — and how she learned to tell the difference between being pulled toward a goal and running from failureInside the Air Force flight debrief: how "root cause" and a single "lesson learned" sentence turn every flight — successful or not — into a team-wide teaching momentWhat changed when Michelle transferred to a reserve squadron in Texas right after it had debriefed a near-catastrophic mishapWhy leaving the military for entrepreneurship exposed her as, in her words, "a control freak," and what she's doing to build a real team instead of running her business like a one-person cockpitHow hitting the USA Today bestseller list with her book The Flip Side actually coincided with a dip in speaking bookings — and the lesson she took from itTime Stamps:
00:00 Imposter Syndrome
00:24 Welcome
00:55 Meet Michelle “Mace” Curran
02:39 Why Kids Books
05:24 From Wisconsin To Jets
06:53 Advice For Parents
09:10 Pull Versus Push
14:48 Japan Pressure Cooker
18:39 Reputation And Legacy
21:25 Finding Your Team Role
23:35 Learning From Mishaps
26:32 Fighter Pilot Debriefs
31:32 Debrief Cadence Matters
32:40 Feedback Without Fear
34:36 Stacking the Odds
36:17 Solo Entrepreneur Shock
39:17 Delegation and Control
43:56 Trust Systems Not People
48:45 Building SOPs and CRM
52:17 Book Launch Reality Check
56:30 Entrepreneurship Fear and Freedom
58:49 Closing and Listener Takeaways
Michelle "Mace" Curran is a former U.S. Air Force F-16 fighter who flew as the fifth woman and second woman ever to fly lead solo with the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds. She left active duty in 2022 after 13 years of service and founded Upside Down Dreams, a speaking, training, and education company. She is the author of three books, including the national bestseller The Flip Side, along with two children's books, Upside Down Dreams and What's Your Call Sign?
Resources mentioned:
The Flip Side (book)Upside Down Dreams (children's book)What's Your Call Sign? (children's book)Follow The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for Part 2 of this conversation, and find more from Michelle "Mace" Curran.
Connect with Michelle
Website: https://macecurran.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mace_curran
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/macecurran/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/macecurran/
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 23 Sep 2026 - 1h 00min - 160 - 157. Spark of Trust | Keiron McCammon
On this episode, Dwayne sits down with Keiron McCammon, host of Spark of Trust podcast, to unpack why that show exists in the first place. It starts with a wrong answer: Keiron went looking for what broke in 2022, blamed social media, and found something underneath it. Trust didn't collapse all at once, it broke in three acts over six decades: first our communities, then our institutions, then our information environment, each one stacking on the last, so no single fix, founder, or organization can repair it alone. Over the next hour and a half, Dwayne and Keiron dig into that unraveling, and why the honest response isn't a solution, it's a signal.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Welcome Keiron McCammon - Spark of Trust Podcast
01:36 Why Trust Matters
02:57 Tech Optimism to Disillusion
05:06 From Misinformation to Trust
06:14 Three Acts of Trust
09:54 Spark of Trust Mission
13:47 Community Pillar Questions
17:04 Neya
24:08 Institutions and Business Trust
30:27 Why Small Business Wins
34:20 Earning Trust Locally
35:19 Reimagining Broken Institutions
37:48 Community Care Lost
41:13 New Models in Healthcare
42:51 Building Trustworthy News
45:11 Tech Accelerates Misinformation
48:08 Internet of Humans
51:12 Trustworthy AI and Fiduciary Duty
57:26 Agents Bots and Identity
01:02:07 Optimism and Network Building
01:04:48 Podcast as Information Network
01:08:28 Dream Guests and Mission
01:09:32 From Listeners to Action
01:12:32 Building Trust Communities
01:18:36 Capital and Trust Tech
01:20:20 Mission-Proof Business Models
01:26:20 Honesty Builds Trust
01:28:02 Character and Consumer Power
01:31:53 Closing Reflections
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Connect with Spark of Trust
https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust
https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust
https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/
https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008
https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 16 Sep 2026 - 1h 21min - 159 - 156. Psychedelics, Ego & Success Hangover with Kelsey Kitsch
Canada's top female entrepreneur two years running, flying between magazine covers and global stages and privately rocking on the floor with the door locked. Kelsey Kitsch, former CEO of Mind Cure and author of Success Hangover, sits down with Dwayne to unpack the ego that built her empire, the psychedelic experience that dismantled it, and what she found once the striving finally stopped.
Content Warning:This episode discusses psychedelics from personal experience. Dwayne and Kelsey explicitly state they are not promoting psychedelics. If you choose to explore this topic, please do thorough research, consult a medical professional, and ensure proper facilitation and integration support.This content is for informational purposes only.
This episode also touches on mental health and suicidal ideation. If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 — the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline — available 24/7 in both the US and Canada.
In this episode:
The three conditions Kelsey uses to unlock curiosity and better ideas, novelty, motion, and high emotion, drawn from researcher Mary Helen Immordino-Yang's workWhy Kelsey builds weekly goals instead of long-term SMART goals, and how her brother Trent Kitch's annual "goal card" shaped that thinkingThe battle between her "ego self" and "soul self" that played out over four hours in her first guided psychedelic experience and what was waiting on the other sideA breakdown of psychedelic experience levels, from psilocybin and MDMA to ayahuasca, San Pedro, mescaline, and 5-MeO-DMT, and what "set, setting, and sacrament" actually meanWhy Dwayne points listeners toward Dr. Dispenza's breathwork program as a non-psychedelic starting point, and the Othership app Kelsey usesThe reframe that closes the episode: "We can only feel loved in proportion to how much we're seen, and we can only be seen in proportion to how much we show people of ourselves."Time Stamps:
00:00 Psychedelic Safety Disclaimer
00:42 Mett Kelsey Kitsch
03:30 Reinvention in a Changing World
05:13 Curiosity as a Career Compass
08:23 Play Framework for Creativity
16:34 Pattern Interrupts and Choice
19:48 Expectations Goals and Targets
30:23 Funeral Mindset and Daily Meaning
33:44 Opening Up About Psychedelics
35:32 Hustle Identity
36:31 Success Yet Empty
37:54 First Guided Journey
38:52 Sufficiency After Silence
41:15 Safety And Legality
42:22 Psychedelic Levels
44:44 Set Setting Integration
48:29 Breathwork Alternative
51:20 Beyond Woo Woo
59:39 Curiosity Over Protocol
01:03:10 Operating System Reset
01:04:58 Ego Versus Soul
01:10:04 Seen To Be Loved
01:13:01 Closing Remarks
About Kelsey Kitsch: Kelsey Kitsch is a Canadian entrepreneur recognized as the country's top female entrepreneur two years in a row and named to Canadian Business' Top 25 Under 35 and the Dell Women's Entrepreneur Network's Top 200 Globally. She started in construction at 15 in her father's business, later becoming President of Belvedere Place Development before founding Spark Play. She is the author of Success Hangover, delivered the TED Talk "Play Is the New PhD," and previously served as CEO of Mind Cure, a psychedelic-focused mental health company. She is now the founder of Paramont Love, focused on intimacy intelligence.
Resources mentioned:
Book: Success Hangover by Kelsey KitschTED Talk: "Play Is the New PhD" by Kelsey KitschConnect with Kelsey Kitsch:
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Wed, 09 Sep 2026 - 1h 08min - 158 - 155. Curiosity, Play & the Art of Reinvention with Kelsey Kitsch
Kelsey Kitsch was Canada's number one female entrepreneur two years in a row. She was on the cover of magazines, speaking at global economic forums, and building multimillion-dollar companies. She was also sitting on the floor of her locked office, in the darkest period of her life, wondering why none of it felt like anything. In Part 1 of this conversation, she and Dwayne explore what happens when the life you built no longer fits — and what it takes to build a new one from the inside out.
In this episode:
The three-factor brain state that produces your best ideas — novelty, motion, and high emotion — drawn from Mary Helen Imordino-Yang's research, and why Kelsey's most creative moments happen driving fast with the windows down in a place she doesn't knowWhy most people set goals wrong: Kelsey's case for short-term weekly goals anchored to a long-term direction, and why the deeper question isn't "what do I want to achieve?" but "who do I want to be when I get there?"Kelsey's experience with guided psychedelic therapy — the four-hour ego vs. soul battle she audio-taped during her first journey, and what it felt like to experience sufficiency for the first time: just being, without striving or driving or winningWhy woo-woo is a category problem, not an evidence problem — and how Kelsey frames breathwork and psychedelics the same way: repeatable patterns that produce consistent results, regardless of whether the mechanism is fully explained yetThe Othership breathwork app and Dr. Joe Dispenza's Marco Island program as non-invasive entry points for anyone curious about expanded states but not ready for psychedelicsThe single most important insight Kelsey has learned about love and being human: we can only feel loved in proportion to how much we're seen, and we can only be seen in proportion to how much we show of ourselves.Content Warning:This episode discusses psychedelics from personal experience. Dwayne and Kelsey explicitly state they are not promoting psychedelics. If you choose to explore this topic, please do thorough research, consult a medical professional, and ensure proper facilitation and integration support.This content is for informational purposes only.
This episode also touches on mental health and suicidal ideation. If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 — the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline — available 24/7 in both the US and Canada.
Episode Highlights (audio):
00:00 - Psychedelic Safety Disclaimer
00:42 - Podcast Intro
01:13 - Meet Kelsey Kitsch
03:28 - Reinvention in a Changing World
05:13 - Staying Curious to Pivot
08:23 - Creativity Formula - Three Factors
16:34 - Pattern Interrupts and Choice
19:48 - Expectations Goals and the Golf Metaphor
25:16 - Identity Driven Targets and Daily Intentions
30:23 - Mortality Mindset and Showing Up Fully
33:43 - Opening the Psychedelics Conversation
34:32 - Driven to Deliver
36:31 - Success Yet In Crisis
37:54 - First Guided Journey
38:52 - Quiet Mind Breakthrough
41:15 - Safety and Legality
42:22 - Psychedelic Levels 101
44:44 - Set Setting Integration
48:29 - Breathwork Alternative
51:20 - Debunking Woo Woo
57:15 - Curiosity Beyond Protocols and Unknowns
01:04:58 - Ego vs Soul Battle
01:10:04 - Seen Known Loved
01:13:01 - Closing and Disclaimers
Resources mentioned:
Success Hangover — Kelsey Kitsch’s bookTED Talk: Play Is the New PhD — Kelsey KitschMINDCURE — psychedelic drug research company Kelsey co-foundedOvercoming Adversity: A Journey to Self-Alignment and Impactful Entrepreneurship with Sophia Plank
Part 2: Finding Balance: The Intersection of Self-Reflection and Business Growth with Sophia Plank
About Kelsey Kitsch:
Kelsey Kitsch is a Canadian entrepreneur, author, and founder who was twice named Canada's top female entrepreneur by PROFIT and Chatelaine. She built and led multiple multimillion-dollar companies including Belvedere Place Development, co-founded MINDCURE (a psychedelic drug research company), and is now the founder of Paramount Love (https://paramountlove.com/), focused on intimacy intelligence. She is the author of Success Hangover(published as Kelsey Ramsden) and has given a TED Talk titled Play Is the New PhD.
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Wed, 02 Sep 2026 - 1h 14min - 157 - 154. Sound, Trust & Starting Again with Kate Bradley Chernis
Kate Bradley Chernis spent over a decade figuring out how to use sound to make strangers feel like friends. At Sirius/XM, she was building 200-layer audio files for 30-second commercials. Next, she was infusing radio theory into a generative AI platform before most people knew what generative AI was. Now at Backline EQ, she's using the same instinct, that sound tells you things a transcript never could, to engineer human connection at scale. This conversation covers all of it: the neuroscience, the pivots, and the parts of the journey she rarely shares out loud.
In this episode:
The theater of the mind and why it's the foundation of trust: when your brain constructs the story rather than receiving it passively, it taps into nostalgia, memory, and emotion — the three keystones of why we buy, connect, and believeWhy your eyes lie but your ears don't — Kate's case that sound is the most honest and hardest-to-trick human sense, and what that means for AI tools that rely entirely on transcriptsThe "rules of radio" Kate embedded into Lately's AI — word choices like "remember" versus "don't forget" that trigger different emotional responses, drawn from her training in the neuroscience of music and parasocial connectionHow Backline EQ outperformed the Microsoft/IBM/Google industry-standard language model (MFCC) by 70% in measuring team fit — using voice patterns alone, without transcriptionKate's vulnerable disclosure about a difficult period in her life after eleven years building a company and how her mother's reminder that she was a prodigy at six became the unexpected anchor that helped her begin againThe investor who finally told her to stop inventing something new and just make existing technology better and how that single pivot made everything easier for the first time in over a decadeContent Warning:This episode includes a brief discussion of suicidal ideation. The conversation is handled with care and context, but we want our listeners to be prepared.
If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 — the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline — available 24/7 in both the US and Canada.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Podcast Welcome and Content Warning
00:17 - Sound Design Obsession
01:20 - Meet Kate Bradley Chernis
03:32 - Kinder Egg Smuggling Story
04:13 - From Radio to AI
05:56 - Theater of the Mind
10:23 - Why Sound Builds Trust
12:36 - Building Lately Secret Sauce
15:23 - Voice Control and Trust
21:18 - Staying Human in AI
28:58 - Leaving XM and Starting Up
34:27 - Early Genius, Confidence and Reinvention
36:26 - Self Love and Authenticity
38:38 - Imposter Syndrome Scale
39:15 - Resume Exercise for Confidence
42:29 - Trusting Your Gut
44:10 - Loneliness and Standing Up
47:05 - Entrepreneurship Lessons
52:05 - Rebuilding The Village
56:19 - Backline EQ Pivot
01:01:37 - Patterns and the Bridge
01:06:49 - Collecting Data the Hard Way
01:09:56 - Sound As A Force
01:11:22 - Return on Collisions
01:13:20 - Saying No and Self Care
01:16:57 - Closing Thanks and Outro
Resources mentioned:
This Is Your Brain on Music — Daniel LevitinThe Art of the Start — Guy KawasakiBackline EQ Live Conversations — Kate's audio salons, every other Thursday at 2:00 PM EasternMFCC (Mel-frequency cepstral coefficients) — industry language model standard Kate's technology was benchmarked againstQuotes:
“Your eyes lie. They can lie to you, but sound doesn't.” - Kate Bradley Chernis
“Often people will focus so much on their life condition rather than, "No, I'm here for a reason. I just need to maybe alter the blueprint." That doesn't mean lower your expectations, it just may mean shift your standards. Shift the way you're gonna get there, timeline, trajectory.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“You have to start measuring. You have to start collecting data.” - Kate Bradley Chernis
“I can make people I can't see feel like they belong. It's more than that. I can make you feel like with a conversation that is either as powerful or more powerful than if we were eye to eye in real life. That's how transcendent sound is. There's a magic there that is, well, it's magical. It's fantastical.” - Kate Bradley Chernis
“Entrepreneurship's f***ing hard. This is a gladiator sport. And there is no substitute for the constant and never-ending courage that you need to have inside this, this arena.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
About Kate Bradley Chernis:
Kate Bradley Chernis is an early Generative AI visionary who co-founded the first closed-data, proprietary machine learning and natural language processing platform in 2014. She is the co-founder and CEO of the Backline Network, which uses curated audio-only salons to capture real-time conversational dynamics and convert them into AI that predicts and engineers group chemistry at scale. Before her career in AI, Kate spent over a decade as a rock 'n' roll radio DJ, serving 20 million listeners daily as Music Director and on-air host at Sirius/XM. An early prototype of her technology delivered Walmart a 130% ROI year-over-year for three years.
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/katebradley
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Wed, 26 Aug 2026 - 1h 18min - 156 - 153. Vision, Entrepreneurship and Purposeful Growth with Mark Bradley (Re-release)
What happens when the business you built becomes too dependent on you to keep growing?
Mark Bradley, Founder and Chairman of LeanScaper and author of the newly released The Landscaper’s Operating System: Build a Landscape Company That Runs Without You, joins Dwayne Kerrigan for Part Two of a conversation about one of the most important transitions an entrepreneur can make: moving from being the person who runs everything to becoming the leader who builds a company capable of running without them.
Mark draws on decades of experience building, scaling, and evolving businesses to break down the disciplines that separate growth from sustainable scale. He shares why strong systems and processes matter, how a CEO’s role must change as the company grows, and why the ability to prioritize, protect your time, and develop capable people becomes increasingly critical at every stage.
The conversation also gets into Mark’s relentless approach to learning — seeking out experts, asking better questions, openly measuring progress, and refusing to let past success become a reason to stop improving. For Mark, better businesses are built by leaders willing to continuously evolve themselves alongside the organization.
That philosophy has shaped each chapter of his career. Mark scaled TBG Landscape from a backyard operation into one of North America’s Top 100 landscape contractors before co-founding LMN in 2009, creating the business-management software he wished had existed while running his own company.
Today, he is continuing that mission through LeanScaper, helping landscape business owners build stronger operations, better teams, greater profitability, and businesses that no longer rely on the owner to solve every problem.
His new book, The Landscaper’s Operating System, takes that mission even further, distilling decades of hard-earned lessons into a framework for owners who want to step out of the bottleneck and build a company designed to perform beyond them.
If you are trying to scale a business, lead at a higher level, or create something that does not require your constant involvement to succeed, this is a conversation worth revisiting.
You can access Mark's book here: https://book.leanscaper.com/
Time Stamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[01:24] Preframing the Landscape Industry
[02:15] Creating Software for the Landscape Industry
[10:22] Asking for Mentorship and Luck
[13:53] Mental Shifts in Transitioning to Software
[17:40] Overcoming Personal Overwhelm
[19:22] Impact of Personal Goals on Business Success
[21:57] Journey to Losing 140lbs
[24:05] Advice to Younger Self
[29:26] Initiating Landscape Management Network (LMN)
[37:13] Keys to Business Success
[43:00] Innovating Your Business Model
[50:50] The Importance of Being Feedback-Oriented
[53:25] The Role of Progress in Success
[1:01:45] Scaling from 1M to 30M in Revenue
[1:11:36] A Day in the Life of a CEO
[1:18:00] Thanks and Connecting with Mark Bradley
[1:20:08] Closing Remarks and Disclaimer
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Wed, 19 Aug 2026 - 1h 18min - 155 - 152. Mission-driven Success: Integrity and Industry Disruption with Mark Bradley (Re-release)
What does it take to build a business that is profitable, principled, and strong enough to scale?
Mark Bradley, Founder and Chairman of LeanScaper and author of the newly released The Landscaper’s Operating System: Build a Landscape Company That Runs Without You, joins Dwayne Kerrigan for Part One of a wide-ranging conversation on the decisions, disciplines, and operating principles that helped shape his career.
Mark’s path was anything but conventional. After leaving the nuclear industry, he entered landscaping and began building what would eventually become TBG Landscape, growing it from a backyard operation into one of North America’s Top 100 landscape contractors. Along the way, he developed a distinctly operator-driven approach to business — one built around understanding the numbers, choosing the right customers, investing in great people, and refusing to compromise on the standards required to build something sustainable.
In this conversation, Mark explains why not every customer is a good customer, why strong businesses need healthy margins, and why paying exceptional employees exceptionally well can become a competitive advantage rather than a cost to control. He also breaks down the importance of clear goals, disciplined budgeting, job costing, and measuring productivity so that business decisions are driven by facts rather than instinct.
At the heart of Mark’s philosophy is a simple idea: a better business should create better outcomes for everyone involved. Better customers create healthier margins. Healthier margins allow you to invest in better people. Better people deliver better work. And when the entire system is aligned, growth becomes far more sustainable.
That operating mindset eventually led Mark to co-found LMN in 2009 after recognizing that the business-management software his own landscape company needed simply did not exist. What began as a solution to an internal problem grew into technology used throughout the landscape industry.
Today, Mark continues that mission through LeanScaper, helping landscape business owners strengthen their operations, improve profitability, build more capable teams, and create businesses that are less dependent on the owner.
His new book, The Landscaper’s Operating System, brings together decades of those lessons into a practical framework for owners who want to build stronger companies with greater clarity, discipline, and independence.
If you are building a company and want to understand the fundamentals beneath sustainable growth — the customers you choose, the people you hire, the numbers you measure, and the standards you refuse to compromise — this conversation is a powerful place to start.
You can access Mark's book FREE here:https://book.leanscaper.com/
Time Stamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[00:35] Mark Bradley: TBG Landscaping Journey
[01:38] Starting a Business: Mark's Story
[07:34] Acquiring First Customers: Strategies
[13:17] Business Evolution: Landscaping Today
[14:03] Replicating Business Success: Insights
[18:41] Targeting Ideal Customers
[23:59] Maximizing Revenue Per Hour
[27:15[ Mindset: Abundance vs Scarcity
[29:33] Financial Management: Budgeting Tips
[32:55] Crafting a Solid Business Plan
[37:00] Preserving Company Culture During Growth
[42:10] Leadership's Role in Business Success
[46:06] Setting Strategic Business Goals
[47:53] Implementing Goals Across Your Team
[51:39] Earning Based on Results: A Business Philosophy
[54:54] Transition from Landscaping to Software Development
[57:20] Emphasizing the Role of Education in Business
[1:00:18] Entering the Software Industry: A New Venture
[1:06:48] Mindset Shifts for Software Business Success
[1:07:27] Announcement: 2 Part Podcast Series
[1:07:54] Future Podcast Topics Discussion
[1:09:00] Finding Industry Mentors
[1:10:33] Youthful Entrepreneurship: Learning the Ropes
[1:12:12] Tailoring Advice to Fit Your Business
[1:13:55] Closing Remarks and Contact Information
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Wed, 12 Aug 2026 - 1h 10min - 154 - 151. Exactly What To Say with Phil M. Jones (Re-release)
This episode is a re-release and features Phil M. Jones, a successful entrepreneur and speaker, who brings to light the significance of mastering pivotal conversational moments in sales and customer service for business success. Join us as we delve into strategies for overcoming and preventing customer objections, understanding decision-making processes, and enhancing customer journeys in diverse industries. We explore the necessity of identifying critical moments in a customer's journey, tailoring compensation to motivate sales teams, and the impact of mindset on professional growth. Phil provides practical advice on setting targets, using direct rewards, and resources for further learning in sales and business strategy.
An entrepreneurial success story and founder of 5 multimillion dollar companies, Phil M Jones is a strategic Advisor to pioneering leaders of the world’s biggest brands. The author of 7 best-selling books including the “Exactly” Book Series with over 2 million copies sold, he is the Producer of the “Most Listened To” Audiobook of all time and Innovator of the highly coveted “How to Persuade” audible production. To date, more than 800 different industries, across 59 countries and 5 continents, have benefited from his input. Phil recently joined a long list of global leaders who serve in residence at High Point University’s Access to Innovators Program. The program at HPU connects students with industry leaders for networking and mentorship opportunities. He joins Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak, Netflix Co-Founder Marc Randolph and many others.
For more info on Phil M. Jones; https://www.philmjones.com/ or https://exactlywhattosay.com/
Check Out Phil’s Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Phil-M-Jones/author/B0097DKWP4?qid=1510658902&sr=8-1&ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true
Timestamps:
[00:00] Introduction
[00:38] Phil Jones Background
[05:02] "Exactly What to Say" Overview
[08:32] Mastering the Art of Asking
[13:41] Effective Communication Strategies
[18:01] Achieving Results vs. Being Right
[24:30] Traits of Successful Salespeople
[28:43] Enhancing Customer Experience
[31:45] Sales Training Fundamentals
[32:35] Mastering Product Knowledge
[37:15] Developing Sales Skills
[39:45] Cultivating the Right Attitude
[41:01] Ideal Sales Training Schedule
[49:15] Encapsulating Excellence in Sales
[51:30] Embracing Discomfort in Sales Training
[1:02:05] Critical Business Moments
[1:20:58] Preventing Sales Objections
[1:40:30] Connecting with Phil M Jones
[1:42:25] Outro
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Business of Doing Business are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Business of Doing Business is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 05 Aug 2026 - 1h 37min - 153 - 150. Gold, Oil, and the Cycle Nobody's Watching with Andrew Pancholi
Andrew Pancholi doesn't hedge his calls. In Part 2 of his conversation with Dwayne Kerrigan, the cycles analyst behind Market Timing Report lays out exactly where he thinks gold and oil are headed next — the kind of specific, put-your-name-on-it targets most analysts avoid — plus the one year already circled on his calendar for the next real market correction, and why the pullbacks along the way are buying opportunities, not warning signs. Using research that traces back nearly a century, Andy breaks down which years tend to run hot, which tend to break, and the one he's watching most closely right now. Dwayne and Andy also dig into digital currency, BRICS, and whether replacing the US dollar would really just be a way to wipe out national debt — and Andy shares how a historical pattern tied to the Dust Bowl era points toward a coming boom in grain and commodity markets.
Episode Time Stamps:
00:00 Cycles Love Or Hate
00:22 Welcome Back Andrew Pancholi
01:23 Digital Currency Questions
03:40 Crypto Value And BRICS
05:06 AI Bots and Cycle Speed
07:01 NFTs Bitcoin and Scrutiny
09:55 Debt Reset and History
11:41 Future Of Money Risks
14:50 Market Timing Report
18:28 Risk Management Trading Edge
24:00 Market Outlook and Year Cycles
31:10 Gold Oil and Commodity Boom
34:22 Mississippi Grain Crunch
36:08 Gold Cycles Explained
36:53 Why Cycles Matter
40:54 Gold Targets and Pullbacks
42:56 Cycles vs Technicals
45:45 AI and Modern Warfare
53:13 Using AI for Research
58:14 Upside of AI Progress
01:01:28 Detaching From Tech
01:02:46 Where to Find Andrew
01:04:21 Final Takeaways and Wrap
Guest bio: Andrew Pancholi is the founder and CEO of The Market Timing Report, a global macro research service used by professional investors and portfolio managers to identify risk windows and periods of asymmetric opportunity. For over 40 years, he has forecast turning points in markets including the S&P 500, gold, oil, and Bitcoin using time cycle analysis built on the methods of W.D. Gann, Edward Dewey, and Ralph Elliott. He is co-author of the bestselling book Zero Hour with Harry S. Dent Jr. and a board member of the Foundation for the Study of Cycles. Before market timing, Andrew spent decades as a senior pilot for a major flag carrier airline, including roles as Training Captain and Training Standards Captain.
Resources mentioned:
Find Andrew Pancholi's daily cycle updates and forecasts at www.markettimingreport.com or on YouTube at Market Timing Report https://www.youtube.com/@markettimingreport
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewpancholi/
https://www.facebook.com/markettimingcyclesanalysis/
Instagram @andrew.pancholi
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Wed, 29 Jul 2026 - 1h 07min - 152 - 149: Andrew Pancholi: What History Tells Us About Right Now
In January 1981, American hostages were released from Iran within hours of Reagan's inauguration. Forty-five years later — to within 30 hours — Andrew Pancholi told his subscribers an Iran conflict was about to begin. He was right. This is not luck. It’s mathematics — and in this conversation with Dwayne Kerrigan, Andrew breaks down exactly how cycle analysis works, what it's telling us about real estate, geopolitics, and the global economy right now, and what business owners and investors should be doing with that information.
In Part 1 of this episode:
The 18.6-year real estate cycle: why we are currently at the same position in the cycle as 2007 — just before the Global Financial Crisis — and what the smart money did last time, and what to do nowThe 100-year pandemic cycle — how Spanish flu, cholera, and COVID all followed the same pattern, and why Andrew saw COVID comingThe 90-year geopolitical cycle: how the polarization, rise of nationalism, anti-immigration sentiment, and challenges to global order we're seeing now mirror the 1930s decade almost exactly — including the economic conditions that led to the rise of fascismThe 250-year empire cycle — America at a tipping point, the petrodollar's quiet expiry, and China's strategic expansion while the West was distractedWhy Andrew predicted the Israel-Iran conflict to within 30 hours — the convergence of a 45-year cycle, a 90-year cycle, and a 36-year cycle, and why Netanyahu's personal history from the 1976 Entebbe raid has driven his policy decisions in Gaza and LebanonThe AI boom through the lens of cycles — why every major boom is fueled by new technology, and whether the return on investment can justify what's going in.Note:This conversation is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice. Please consult a qualified financial professional before making any investment decisions.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Hidden Patterns Teaser
00:30 - Podcast Intro Setup
01:03 - Meet Andrew Pancholi
04:39 - Why Cycles Matter
07:06 - Real Estate Cycle
08:44 - Big Cycles 2029 Risk
12:15 - What Should We Do
15:38 - Seven Year Life Cycles
19:43 - Forecasting Iran Conflict
24:25 - Pandemic Cycle Evidence
29:29 - Boom Signals And Technology
35:45 - Real Estate Action Steps
40:09 - Timing the Property Cycle
41:38 - Strategy Over FOMO
43:25 - Cycle Experts and Herd Signals
45:53 - Geopolitics in 90 Years
48:44 - The 250 Year Empire Shift
58:11 - Petrodollar and BRICS Challenge
01:06:21 - China’s Resource Playbook
01:11:38 - War Outlook Russia Ukraine Taiwan
01:15:31 - What to Watch Next
01:18:01 - Wrap Up and Disclaimers
Resources mentioned:
Zero Hour — book by Andrew Pancholi and Harry S. Dent Jr.The Secret Life of Real Estate and Banking — book by Philip AndersonThe Secret Wealth Advantage — book by Akhil PatelThe Art of War — book by Sun TzuThe Market Timing Report — markettimingreport.comQuotes:
“The minute you start a conflict, a physical conflict, you have lost the war.” - Andrew Pancholi
“The markets are an indication of the psychology of the world. That's the way I've always been trained and always looked at it, is that it is gonna give you what the psychology of the world is looking at things from a economic standpoint.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ If you don't have to buy, keep saving, 'cause the chances are the house prices will come down, and then when we get to about 2031, 2032, that might be a good time to start looking.” - Andrew Pancholi
“ Religious texts, philosophical texts, they all hide mathematical patterns within them. There is something secret hidden away. I mean, it's an open secret if you go and study it, but there are some patterns and years, certain mathematical patterns that do repeat in the bigger picture.” - Andrew Pancholi
“ I put the, uh, message out on the Thursday evening to our subscribers saying, "This is gonna kick off, uh, I believe on tomorrow or, or Saturday," and it actually happened on Saturday. So depending on where you are in the world, it was maximum 30 hours out.” - Andrew Pancholi
Andrew Pancholiis the founder and CEO of The Market Timing Report, a global macro research service used by professional investors, portfolio managers, and family offices to identify risk windows and periods of asymmetric opportunity. For over 40 years, he has forecast turning points in markets including the S&P 500, gold, oil, and Bitcoin using time cycle analysis built on the methods of W.D. Gann, Edward Dewey, and Ralph Elliott. He is co-author of the bestselling book Zero Hour with Harry S. Dent Jr. and a board member of the Foundation for the Study of Cycles. Before market timing, Andrew spent decades as a senior pilot for a major flag carrier airline, including roles as Training Captain and Training Standards Captain.
Connect with Andrew Pancholi:https://andrewpancholi.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewpancholi/
The Market Timing Report — markettimingreport.com
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Wed, 22 Jul 2026 - 1h 19min - 151 - 148: Brian Will: Don't Sell to Private Equity Without This
Most business owners think getting a call from private equity is the finish line. Brian Willsays that's exactly when you're most at risk. In Part 2, Brian delivers the frameworks that took him three exits and decades of hard lessons to build — from the five keys to success (which are also the five keys to failure) to what private equity firms will do to your earn-out if you're not paying attention.
In this episode:
The five keys to success — and why every single one is also a key to failure Why your business is not your product — it's the business inside the business: marketing, data, systems, and the ability to put any product through a machine that finds customers and converts them The private equity playbook most sellers never see coming: how an $80 million deal became $60 million, why earn-out structures based on EBITDA are almost always a trap, and why you must never let a PE firm take over your accounting Brian's AI workflow — three screens, three AI models (Gemini, ChatGPT, and Claude, which he calls Jake, Elwood, and Jeff), and the one prompt he uses to make sure they challenge him Why you should stop chasing advice from billionaires — and find someone exactly ten steps ahead of you, fresh out of the game, who's made mistakes at your level recently enough to still remember what they felt like Living Forever AI: Brian's current startup building interactive AI twins for personal legacy, professional use, and homeschooling — and why he's bootstrapping it while competitors have raised $20 million.Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Escape the Commodity Trap
00:30 - Podcast Intro and Setup
01:30 - Five Keys to Success
01:50 - Key One Strong: Why
02:25 - Keys Two and Three
04:38 - Key Four: Check Ego
05:25 - Key Five: Master P&L
07:33 - KPIs and Pattern Forecasting
09:54 - Pricing and Testing
13:14 - Business Is a Data Game
14:59 - AI for Financial Analysis
16:49 - Living Forever AI Twins
20:37 - Experience Meets AI
23:56 - AI Jobs and Media Fear
29:36 - Why Start at 60
31:07 - Proving It Again
31:52 - Builder Not Manager
32:43 - Exit Strategy Reality
34:51 - Private Equity Earnouts
39:43 - How PE Rollups Work
44:02 - Structuring Safer Earnouts
45:44 - Post Acquisition Lessons
49:52 - Business Beyond Product
55:28 - Using AI As Advisors
57:52 - Stop Chasing Billionaires
01:00:49 - Final Advice And Wrap
Resources mentioned:
Dropout Multimillionaire, No: The Psychology of Sales and Negotiations, The Invisible Multimillionaire, I Give the Dumb Kids Hope — Brian Will's books Living Forever AI — Brian Will's current company:https://livingforeverai.com/ brianwillmedia.com — Brian Will's website ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude — Brian's three AI models, running simultaneously for business planning and analysis The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People — Stephen CoveyQuotes:
“ If you are a commodity business, the only way for you to win is to chase pricing down to the bottom until you can't make money.” - Brian Will
“ I did a company, literally 32 marketing channels, and when I did the analysis, nine of those channels were unprofitable. Nine. And they represented 20% of their spend, their marketing spend.” - Brian Will
“ And at some point, I started questioning me. I've been doing this consulting thing and telling people what to do for 20 years. I wonder if I actually know what I'm talking about.” - Brian Will
“ Wherever you feel, you know, some angst around something, and this could be anywhere in your life, I think it's really important that you lean into it and realize that that angst is, is not there for you to pull back from anything. It's actually for you to lean into something, and there's something that you don't yet know.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ Stop chasing the advice of billionaires, because they can't help you.” - Brian Will
About Brian Will:
Brian Will is a serial entrepreneur, two-time Wall Street Journal bestselling author, and business consultant who has founded or co-founded ten companies across four industries, with combined valuations exceeding half a billion dollars. He is a two-time TEDx speaker and the author of four books including Dropout Multimillionaire and No: The Psychology of Sales and Negotiations. Currently, Brian is the CEO of Living Forever AI and runs a coaching and consulting practice helping entrepreneurs master the core metrics, sales systems, and processes that drive sustainable growth.
Connect with Brian Will: https://brianwillmedia.com/
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 15 Jul 2026 - 1h 04min - 150 - 147: From Dropout to Multimillionaire: Brian Will's Success Formula
Brian Willhas owned 10 companies across five industries, made three exits worth over $500 million, and written four books — including two Wall Street Journal bestsellers. None of it was handed to him and the odds were very much against him. In this conversation with Dwayne Kerrigan, Brian unpacks the frameworks behind his success: the personal filter, the success ladder, and the $80 million decision he almost said no to.
In this episode:
The "I'm in" moment: Brian's business partner Steve asked him to borrow $66,000 more after nine months of zero revenue and $500,000 in losses — Brian's accountant, CMO, and COO all quit before he finally said yes, and the company sold for $80 million just 18 months later Why "failure leads to success" is a myth Brian calls out directly — it's learning from failure that leads to success, and most people skip that step entirely The success ladder framework: Brian started at step zero with no education, no backing, and no mentors — and why the only two ways to climb are to learn every painful lesson yourself or find someone who's already done it The personal filter concept: everything you've ever heard, read, and experienced creates a subconscious filter that accepts or rejects new information — and why people who seem to have the Midas touch aren't lucky, their brain just knows how to recognize success How Brian's abusive childhood created what he calls the "anger box" — and how that same fuel, once controlled, became his most powerful sales and leadership tool Why three years of counseling after his divorce was the moment he realized the only person he was still trying to prove anything to was himselfEpisode Highlights:
00:00 - Keep Moving Forward
00:15 - Podcast Intro
00:47 - Meet Brian Will
02:53 - Dumb Kids Hope Story
04:40 - Military Discipline Lessons
08:30 - Abuse, Anger, and Trauma
12:28 - Anger Box Control
13:35 - Learning From Failure
17:04 - Mentorship Strategy
17:59 - Steve and the Big Bet
19:40 - All In Decision
20:38 - Breakthrough and Exit
22:36 - Ego Surrender and Trust
26:46 - Vulnerability and Divorce
32:20 - Drowning Mind in Books
34:30 - Who Steve Was
35:27 - Equity Swap Origin Story
39:23 - Email Marketing Gold Rush
41:10 - Success Filter Framework
46:05 - Wrap Up and Next Episode
Resources mentioned:
I Give the Dumb Kids Hope, Dropout Multimillionaire, No: The Psychology of Sales and Negotiations,and The Invisible Multimillionaire — Brian Will’s books How to Win Friends and Influence People — Dale Carnegie book Master Key to Riches — Napoleon Hill book The E-Myth Revisited — Michael Gerber book Blink — Malcolm Gladwell book Rich Dad Poor Dad — Robert Kiyosaki book Living Forever AI — Brian Will's current company: https://livingforeverai.com/Quotes:
“ Failure does not lead to success, ever, never, ever, ever. Learning from failure leads to success, and that's the thing that a lot of people don't do, especially in business.” - Brian Will
“ In 60 days, we hit our first offer. We did $6 million, then 20, then 30, and then sold the company for $80 million 18 months later.” - Brian Will
“ The only person that still thinks, or in my case, still thought that I was that kid laying in the yard crying after I got beat up by my stepdad was me. I was the guy that I did, I had to prove something to.” - Brian Will
“ Failure will be inevitable at some point, and learning is optional." - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ It's your personal filter that will determine whether you succeed or fail in life.” - Brian Will
“ Most of the time, they quit right before they're about to make a breakthrough. That's just a fact.” - Brian Will
About Brian Will:
Brian Will is a serial entrepreneur, two-time Wall Street Journal bestselling author, and business consultant who has founded or co-founded ten companies across four industries, with combined valuations exceeding half a billion dollars. He is a two-time TEDx speaker and the author of four books including Dropout Multimillionaire and No: The Psychology of Sales and Negotiations. Currently, Brian is the CEO of Living Forever AI and runs a coaching and consulting practice helping entrepreneurs master the core metrics, sales systems, and processes that drive sustainable growth.
Connect with Brian Will: https://brianwillmedia.com/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 08 Jul 2026 - 47min - 149 - 146: Why AI Empowers Entrepreneurs More Than Anyone with Sean Barry
Sean Barry's team used to spend six months building a feature. Now they build it in two to three weeks.
In Part 2, Sean and Dwayne move from the AI transformation inside LeanScaper to the bigger picture: what the software industry looks like in twelve months, why autonomous cars and AI adoption are fundamentally different problems, and what it actually means to participate in this change rather than spectate.
In this episode:
Why the software industry is facing a potential 50-80% company turnover in the next 12-18 months — and why it's simultaneously the best time to be a consumer of technology and the most terrifying time to be building it The voice and ambient AI future that Sean sees arriving in the next 12 months: screens shrinking from 98% of the interface to 60%, then 20%, as conversational AI replaces the need to navigate software at all Why AI adoption is fundamentally different from autonomous car adoption — when the choice is 150 hours of your time versus 5 hours with AI, it's not a choice your employer gives you, it's a choice that gets made for you How AI can lift wages across entire workforces by removing waste from businesses — Sean's case that the real gift of AI isn't productivity, it's the ability to pay people more Sean's closing philosophy on AI and empathy: the sentiment is largely negative because people aren't participating, and the antidote isn't optimism — it's getting informed, then helping others do the sameStart building your identity with Dwayne’s Identity Framework created for the LeanScaper Conference: https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/identity-framework/
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Be Informed About AI
00:25 - Podcast Intro
01:26 - Shipping Faster With AI
05:55 - Producing What Was Impossible
09:52 - Keeping Pace With Change
11:01 - AI’s Growth Curve
12:11 - Voice First Interfaces
16:54 - Future Of Software SaaS
21:16 - Build Vs Buy For SMBs
25:23 - Leverage Expertise With AI
27:31 - Does It Ever Normalize
31:12 - Autonomous cars
35:35 - Removing Waste Raising Wages
37:32 - Robotics And Scarcity
42:16 - How We Treat AI
46:12 - Participate With Empathy
51:12 - Closing And Disclaimers
Resources mentioned:
LeanScaper — AI operating system for the landscape industry Lana — LeanScaper's AI agent Mark Bradley — founder and chairman of LeanScaper Claude Code — referenced by Dwayne as the platform he used for his planned 10-week AI course for his staff and their families Lovable — referenced as a tool enabling small business owners to build their own apps Eleven Labs / Cartesia — referenced in context of voice AI development OpenClaw agents and Jarvis — referenced by Dwayne in context of his own AI setup Tesla / Waymo — referenced in autonomous vehicle comparison Anthropic — referenced re: recursive self-improvement blog post released day of recording Paul Akers’s episode on The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast — referenced regarding eliminating business waste: Episode 135: The Lean Maniac: Paul Akers on Eliminating WasteQuotes:
“ This isn't a choice. Like, people who think this is a choice aren't paying attention. Back to what I said before, this happens either to you or with you.” - Sean Barry
“ What we accomplished in that two, three weeks would have taken us six months.” - Sean Barry
“ I honestly think it's normalizing already, and I have a wonderful wife who, who grounds me in these things because as well I'm like, "Man, if we're not go, go, go, like, we're gonna be left behind." And her very nuanced understanding of people, way better than I have, is like change takes time and people need time.” - Sean Barry
“ Nobody likes uncertainty, but that's where all the growth lies, is in your uncomfort.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ We can help an industry transform the lives of its entire workforce because we can take all of the waste out, and then all of a sudden there's enough money to really pay people well.” - Sean Barry
About Sean Barry:
Sean Barry is the Chief Product Officer at LeanScaper, an AI operating system and business community built specifically for the landscape and snow contracting industry. He brings nearly two decades of product and digital leadership experience, including almost four years at LMN (Landscape Management Network) — the landscape industry's leading business management platform — where he rose from SVP of Product to Chief Product Officer. Before entering the green industry, Sean spent 14 years at Laughlin Constable, a Milwaukee-based agency, where he built his career from Lead Engineer to SVP of Digital, Account and Innovation. He is currently at the forefront of applying AI to real-world business operations for contractors.
Connect with Sean Barry: https://leanscaper.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sbarry/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 01 Jul 2026 - 52min - 148 - 145: Sean Barry: AI Is Happening To You or With You
In January, 95% of the code Sean Barry's team wrote was written by hand. Six months later, that number is 2%. Sean isn't predicting what AI will do to your industry — he's living it, building it, and losing sleep over it.
In this conversation with Dwayne Kerrigan, Sean Barry - the Chief Product Officer of LeanScaper - shares what the AI transformation actually looks like from the inside: the grief, the identity crisis, the compounding flywheel effect, and the window that's closing faster than most people realize.
In this episode:
Why most small to mid-sized businesses can't implement AI on their own — and what LeanScaper is doing about it for the landscape industryThe compounding flywheel effect: why companies that embrace AI now may be uncatchable by competitors who wait six monthsThe emotional journey Sean's team went through when AI fundamentally changed their jobs overnight — and what's on the other sideWhy the most powerful AI asset in your business might already be sitting in a drawer somewhereThe one thing Sean tells every business owner who doesn't know where to startWhy the resistance to AI — in boardrooms, on campuses, and inside teams — all traces back to the same root causeStart building your identity with Dwayne’s Identity Framework created for the LeanScaper Conference: https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/identity-framework/
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - AI Pace Shift
00:27 - Podcast Intro
00:59 - Meet Sean Barry
03:33 - LeanScaper Explained
04:33 - DIY AI Struggle
08:28 - Jobs Fear vs Abundance
14:46- Human Connection Premium
17:08 - Mindset, Education, and Retraining
25:57 - How to Start Using AI
30:36 - SOPs as Superpower
36:00 - Uncatchable Flywheel
43:43 - Grief and Identity Shift
53:26 - What Changed Since January
58:14 - New Team Workflow Rebuilt
01:00:51 - Wrap Up and Stay Tuned for Next Episode
Resources mentioned:
LeanScaper — AI operating system for the landscape industryLMN (Landscape Management Network) — landscape industry business management softwareMark Bradley — Chairman and founder of LeanScaperLana — LeanScaper's AI agentChatGPT — referenced as starting point for AI adoptionClaude / Anthropic — cited as the inflection point in AI coding capability that changed everything in late 2024Claude Code — referenced as coding toolCodex — referenced as AI coding resourceGitHub Copilot / Microsoft Copilot — referenced in context of AI coding historyFigma — referenced as design tool being replaced by AI-assisted codingOpenClaw agents — referenced by Dwayne as agents running in his own setupQuotes:
“ Your choice is not whether or not this happens, your choice is whether it happens with you or to you, and that's the choice you get to make.” - Sean Barry
“ In January, ninety-five, ninety-eight percent of the code we would write was written by hand, and today, two percent. Yeah, that's six months.” - Sean Barry
“ Take next week off and stop doing your day job, and then spend forty hours learning AI and diving into ChatGPT, Codex, Claude. Figure out what you want. Dive in, there's tons of education. You just ask AI how to use it. Then the next week, that time will pay back. You will have moved yourself so far in that forty hours that you will get that time back the next week.” - Sean Barry
"You'll be uncatchable by people who don't." - Sean Barry
“ I think 95% of small to mid-sized businesses don't have the time nor resources to go accomplish that. So I think we're at the exciting point in what we're trying to do is, is take all that power and then do all the heavy lifting for landscape contractors so they can just turn it on and use it and not need to go figure out how to put it all together.” - Sean Barry
About Sean Barry:
Sean Barry is the Chief Product Officer at LeanScaper, an AI operating system and business community built specifically for the landscape and snow contracting industry. He brings nearly two decades of product and digital leadership experience, including almost four years at LMN (Landscape Management Network) — the landscape industry's leading business management platform — where he rose from SVP of Product to Chief Product Officer. Before entering the green industry, Sean spent 14 years at Laughlin Constable, a Milwaukee-based agency, where he built his career from Lead Engineer to SVP of Digital, Account and Innovation. He is currently at the forefront of applying AI to real-world business operations for contractors.
Connect with Sean Barry: https://leanscaper.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sbarry/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 24 Jun 2026 - 1h 02min - 147 - 144: Sleep Is the Currency of Attention with Dr. Breus
Most people treat sleep like something that happens to them. Dr. Michael Breus, aka The Sleep Doctor, treats it like a system — one that can be built, optimized, and recovered no matter how badly you've abused it.
In Part 2, Dwayne and Dr. Breus move from theory into full practice: the single morning habit that regulates your entire sleep schedule, the truth about supplements and peptides, and why a 78-year-old entrepreneur taking four different drugs to get through the day became drug-free in two weeks and now more productive than his staff can handle.
In this episode:
The one rule that regulates your entire sleep schedule The three-15s morning routine: 15 deep breaths, 15 ounces of water, and 15 minutes of direct sunlight within 20 minutes of waking — and why vitamin D is a circadian pacemaker The supplement framework most people get completely wrong Dr. Breus's unambiguous position on peptides: lab-use-only compounds are being injected by people who have no idea what the 10 or 20-year consequences are, and the only thing he's ever found that he cannot fix without medication or intervention is physical pain and major mental health issues How Dr. Breus accidentally became The Sleep Doctor: rejected from his first-choice sports psychology program, he sold himself into a sleep track, fell in love with clinical sleep medicine, and never looked back — "You change somebody's sleep, you change their life."Discover Your Chronotype - Take The Quiz:https://sleepdoctor.com/pages/dr-breus-podcast-dwayne-kerrigan
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Sleep Boosts Everything
00:22 - Podcast Welcome
01:24 - Wake Time Consistency
01:41 - Melatonin Timer Explained
03:12 - Minimum Sleep Safety
04:54 - Sleep Quality For Performance
06:41 - Exercise And Cooling Hacks
10:53 - Home Sleep Testing
14:51 - Sauna Timing And Cold Plunge
19:06 - Blue Light and Screen Stimulus
22:05 - Morning Sun Routine
23:51 - Supplements vs Bloodwork
27:50 - Magnesium Types And Research
30:24 - Avoid Over Supplementing
33:01 - Eight Hours Myth
34:42 - Modern Sleep Basics
35:40 - Kids and Teen Sleep
38:36 - What Good Sleep Feels Like
39:44 - Depression Meds and REM
45:29 - Entrepreneur Sleep Debt
49:39 - Peptides Sleep Shortcuts
54:36 - Sleeping Pills and Tapering
01:00:21 - Sleep Doctor Origin Story
01:04:03 - Sleep and Purpose
01:05:48 - Final Takeaways and Goodbye
Resources mentioned:
Take the Original Chronotype Quiz | SleepDoctor.com Sleep Doctor At Home Sleep Test (SleepDoctor.com)The Sleep Doctor At-Home Sleep Test provides clinical-level sleep analysis from the comfort of your own bed. Using two simple sensors and a connected app, users receive personalized results reviewed by a licensed provider in under a week.
Orion Sleep — mattress topper for temperature regulation Eight Sleep — mattress topper referenced as comparable product ChiliPAD — referenced as comparable cooling product Full Script — Supplement Management & Lab Testing Platform Andrew Huberman — referenced in context of the apigenin/magnesium threonate sleep stack Dan Sullivan / Strategic Coach — case study referenced with permission Laird Hamilton and Gabby Reece — referenced in context of sauna/cold plunge performance campQuotes:
“ Everything you do, you do better with a good night's sleep. Everything. There's not a single biological function that you don't do better when you sleep.” - Dr. Michael Breus
“ 25% of the people that show up on my doorstep, I have them go do blood work. As soon as we fix the deficiencies, they're done. They're gone. They don't need anything. But here's the funny part. Nobody has a deficiency in ashwagandha, right? Nobody has a deficiency in passionflower, right? Nobody.” - Dr. Michael Breus
“ God's delays are not God's denials. You know, you thought you wanted to be this, and you were pursuing this expectation or this hope or this dream, but then what you really found was your true purpose.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Wake up at the same time seven days a week. Notice I didn't say go to bed at the same time. I said wake up at the same time.” - Dr. Michael Breus
“ Sleep is the currency of attention. You cannot pay attention to anything if you're not well-slept. ADD, ADHD gets worse when you're not well-slept. You can't focus. Everything depe- this is why sleep is so fundamental to life, is because it's, it literally dictates what you look at, what you focus on, and where you spend your time. It's all comes from whether or not you got a good night's rest.” - Dr. Michael Breus
Dr. Michael Breus, Ph.D., is a double board-certified Clinical Psychologist and Clinical Sleep Specialist, and one of only 168 psychologists in the world to have passed the Sleep Medicine Boards without attending medical school. Known as The Sleep Doctor, he is the founder of sleepdoctor.com, was named the Top Sleep Specialist in California by Reader’s Digest, and one of the 10 most influential people in sleep, and is the author of several books including The Power of When and Sleep, Drink, Breathe: Wellness is Too Complicated. He has appeared on Oprah, CNN, The Today Show, and The Dr. Oz Show more than 40 times, and lectures globally for organizations including YPO and Tony Robbins' Unleash the Power Within.
Connect with Dr. Michael Breus:
YouTube: Sleep Doctor
Instagram: Sleep Doctor (@thesleepdoctor)
Take the Original Chronotype Quiz | SleepDoctor.com
Sleep Doctor At Home Sleep Test (SleepDoctor.com)
The Sleep Doctor At-Home Sleep Test provides clinical-level sleep analysis from the comfort of your own bed. Using two simple sensors and a connected app, users receive personalized results reviewed by a licensed provider in under a week.
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 17 Jun 2026 - 1h 09min - 146 - 143: Sleep Smarter: The Science of When with Dr. Michael Breus
You've been told to get eight hours of sleep your whole life. Dr. Michael Breus — The Sleep Doctor— says that's not only wrong, it may be making things worse. In this conversation with Dwayne Kerrigan, one of the world's foremost sleep specialists breaks down the science of when to sleep, when to drink caffeine, when to workout, and why most people's sleep problems aren't about how much they sleep — they're about when.
In this episode:
The four chronotypes — Lion, Bear, Wolf, and Dolphin — and why knowing yours could reduce your total sleep while dramatically improving quality; plus why 55% of the population are Bears, and what that means for your nine-to-five schedule The 90-minute caffeine rule: how adrenaline and cortisol make caffeine useless for the first 90 minutes after waking, and when to stop caffeine entirely to protect your sleep The biology of the 1:00–3:00 AM wake-up: every human on Earth wakes up in this window due to a cortisol spike — and Dr. Breus's four-step protocol for getting back to sleep, including the four-seven-eight breathing technique developed by Dr. Andrew Weil for Navy snipers Why alcohol destroys Stage 3 and 4 deep sleep — the physical restoration stage where the brain's glymphatic system flushes beta amyloid and tau proteins linked to Alzheimer's disease — and the exact wine-with-dinner timing strategy that lets you drink without wrecking your sleep Sleep tracking devices: why none of them are accurate for measuring sleep stages, why rings outperform wristbands, why you should only review your tracker data once a week, and how to use trend analysis rather than nightly numbers Dr. Breus's personal disclosure: he has moderate obstructive sleep apnea and stops breathing 26 times an hour — and why he wants every listener to stop avoiding sleep testing out of fearDiscover Your Chronotype - Take The Quiz:https://sleepdoctor.com/pages/dr-breus-podcast-dwayne-kerrigan
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Entrepreneurs Sleep Differently
00:33 - Welcome and Guest Introduction
01:06 - Tony Robbins Connection
03:17 - Meet Dr Michael Breus
05:05 - Middle of Night Awakenings
07:40 - Understanding Chronotypes
11:31 - The Lion Chronotype
12:47 - The Bear Chronotype
13:18 - The Wolf Chronotype
14:23 - The Dolphin Chronotype
18:07 - Bad Sleep Habits
20:39 - Morning Workouts and Cortisol
22:27 - Perfect Time for Sex
25:20 - Understanding Cortisol
26:37 - Why We Wake at 3AM
28:57 - Don't Go Pee
30:52 - Don't Look at the Clock
31:43 - Four Seven Eight Breathing
34:59 - Getting Out of Bed
36:28 - Stay Positive
38:06 - Breathing Technique Recap
38:51 - Breathing Techniques Really Work
42:50 - Alcohol and Sleep Quality
46:47 - Caffeine Timing Guidelines
49:49 - Cannabis and Sleep
51:39 - Understanding Sleep Stages
54:29 - Sleep Cycles Explained
56:11 - Sleep Tracking Devices
01:00:08 - Choosing the Right Tracker
01:04:18 - Heart Rate Variability
01:07:17 - Quality Over Quantity
01:08:46 - Sleep Apnea and Testing
01:12:12 - Finding Your Sleep Need
01:12:36 - Closing Thoughts and Stay Tuned for Part 2
Resources mentioned:
Several of Dr. Michael Breus’ books – The Power of When, Energize!, The Sleep Doctor's Diet Plan, Good Night, andSleep, Drink, Breathe Four-seven-eight breathing technique — developed by Dr. Andrew Weil Muse headband — brainwave monitoring headband for sleep and meditation Oura Ring — sleep tracking ring Whoop Strap — activity and sleep tracker Apple Watch — sleep tracking The Happy Ring from Happy Sleep — FDA-approved ring for sleep studies Tony Robbins’s book Unleash the Power WithinQuotes:
“Eight hours is a myth, man. So many people try to force themselves to get... The math doesn't even work. Like, the right number of cycles doesn't even end up at eight hours.” - Dr. Michael Breus
“ I really, honestly, legitimately feel like I've dumbed myself down a little bit when it comes to, when it comes to my, like, abuse of sleep over the years.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“To be clear, dude, you are your best doctor. When you wake up in the morning, if you feel good, you feel good. Like, you slept well.” - Dr. Michael Breus
“ The first liquid that crosses your lips every morning should not, I repeat, not be caffeinated.” - Dr. Michael Breus
“ Stop thinking about hours. This is a quality game, not a quantity game. If you get six and a half hours of good quality sleep- As a sleep doctor, I am much more interested than if you get eight hours of crappy sleep.” - Dr. Michael Breus
Dr. Michael Breus, Ph.D., is a double board-certified Clinical Psychologist and Clinical Sleep Specialist, and one of only 168 psychologists in the world to have passed the Sleep Medicine Boards without attending medical school. Known as The Sleep Doctor, he is the founder of sleepdoctor.com, was named the Top Sleep Specialist in California by Reader’s Digest, and one of the 10 most influential people in sleep. He is the author of several books including The Power of When and Sleep, Drink, Breathe: Wellness is Too Complicated,and has appeared on Oprah, CNN, The Today Show, and The Dr. Oz Show more than 40 times, and lectures globally for organizations including YPO and Tony Robbins' Unleash the Power Within.
Connect with Dr. Michael Breus:
YouTube: Sleep Doctor
Instagram: Sleep Doctor (@thesleepdoctor)
Take the Original Chronotype Quiz | SleepDoctor.com
Sleep Doctor At Home Sleep Test (SleepDoctor.com)
The Sleep Doctor At-Home Sleep Test provides clinical-level sleep analysis from the comfort of your own bed. Using two simple sensors and a connected app, users receive personalized results reviewed by a licensed provider in under a week.
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 10 Jun 2026 - 1h 14min - 145 - 142: Don't Mistake Being Busy for Being Productive
Nobody jumps out of bed wanting to do a bad job. So why does the day fall apart by lunch? In this episode, Dwayne Kerrigan breaks down the actual mechanics of high-performance productivity — not the philosophy, not the mindset pep talk, but the specific rituals, systems, and daily habits that determine whether your week produces results or just burns time.
In this episode:
The Time Management Matrix — originally developed by Franklin Covey, which Dwayne taught for 35 years — and why the only quadrant that actually moves your life forward is Q2: things that are important but not urgent, including planning, training, creative thinking, and relationship buildingWhy weekly planning and solitude is the single most important hour of the week — what Dwayne looks at during that block, how he structures it, and why if you miss it consistently, everything else breaks downHow Dwayne uses a color-coded identity calendar — each role in his life assigned a color, from Chairman to Love Slave — so that every time block is set with intention, not just task completionThe AI accountability system: Dwayne sends his planned week and his actual week to an AI agent named Jarvis, who measures his efficiency against his seven-year mission and purpose — and tells him when he's gotten sucked into operationsThe 30-to-60-second rule for managing in-the-moment interruptions: handle it now if it takes under a minute, or put it on the task list immediately and review every two to three hoursWhy perfection is a fool's game — Dwayne's case for defining "good enough" before you start, launching at that standard, and building a continuous improvement process rather than waiting for perfect.Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Progress Over Perfect
00:28 - Podcast Introduction
01:05 - Productivity Not Time
02:44 - Roles And Identities
03:44 - Mindset State And Why
04:56 - Strategy Culture Habits
06:47 - Health Vitality Long Game
08:32 - Vision Plan Action Framework
11:33 - Weekly Planning Solitude
16:07 - Time Management Matrix
23:18 - Plan Your Week In Practice
24:41 - Daily Planning
29:09 - Handle Interruptions Fast
30:33 - Email Tasks
34:06 - Inbox Overload Fixes
35:39 - Stop Chasing Shiny Objects
36:39 - Eat The Frog First
37:35 - Perfection Blocks Progress
38:56 - Get Resourceful Ask Help
40:09 - Break Tunnel Vision
41:29 - Identity Based Weekly Planning
43:08 - AI Accountability Feedback
45:00 - Guardrails And Honest Feedback
46:42 - Daily Execution Rituals
49:46 - Urgent Versus Important Explained
55:51 - Stop Unneeded Meetings
57:17 - Prioritize Across Roles
59:59 - Why Breaks Feel Hard
01:05:23 - Calendaring To Reduce Stress
01:09:17 - Wrap Up And Disclaimers
Resources mentioned:
FranklinCovey Time Matrix, Plan and software (Dwayne's current task management tool)The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People — book by Stephen CoveyExactly What to Say — book by Phil Jones2 Second Lean — book by Paul AkersByron Katie’s four questions framework — "Is it true? Is it absolutely true?"Video text messaging - Todd Hartley and Paul Akers referencedWaking Up app — Sam Harris meditation appTony Robbins — six human needs framework referencedKeith Cunningham — "Progress is not only measured by yards gained, but sometimes by yards not lost"Quotes:
“Don't mistake being busy for producing results” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ Lose two hours of your day out of an eight-hour day, it adds up to a 20% of your day all of a sudden disappears. Well, factor that out over the year, you've got 20% of your year that you've not been working at directing yourself to a target.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“The difference between excitement and fear is just the label that we put on it. Physically and physiologically, it's kind of the same experience in our body, but we put a label on fear versus excitement.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ The biggest problem that we make is we let perfect get in the way of progress. We've gotta identify what is good. And I'm not saying lower your standards, but what I am saying is we can get stuck on perfection or our need for certainty, and we have what I call failure to launch syndrome.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ We often overestimate what we can accomplish in a year and we underestimate what we can accomplish in a decade.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 03 Jun 2026 - 1h 17min - 144 - 141: Kyle Scheele: The Five Things Every Idea Needs
Kyle Scheele went from 17 TikTok followers to a million in 25 hours — not because he had a strategy, but because he finally stopped waiting for the right time and posted the video. In Part 2, he and Dwayne walk through the five things every idea needs to make it into the world, why AI is a sycophancy machine that will confidently tell you exactly what you want to hear, and why creativity is a team sport — and always has been.
In Part 2 of this episode:
The five things every idea needs — a chance, a home, a time and place, a bodyguard, and a crew — and the specific, practical way each one applies inside a business or organization Why Kyle went from 17 followers to a million on TikTok in 25 hours: a one-minute video about photoshopping his dad's tilted head in a family portrait, and the James Joyce principle that explains why the most particular stories become the most universal The chemical company story: a PhD chemist had known for years that her company's product would work perfectly in another industry — and never said anything, because no one asked Why AI is good at the "I" and the "A" of the idea cycle (inspiration and action) but can't do discovery or evolution — because those require taste, distaste, and skin in the game that no algorithm has How fear of running out of money drove Kyle's entire entrepreneurial career — and why that fear, managed well, doesn't make you play small, it makes you play smart.Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Creativity Needs Others
00:32 - Podcast Intro and Setup
01:30 - Give Ideas a Chance
04:44 - Ideas Need a Home
07:20 - Systems That Invite Ideas
11:56 - Launch Now Not Perfect
13:20 - TikTok Breakthrough Story
21:06 - Protect Ideas with Bodyguards
27:23 - Ideas Need a Crew
29:25 - Creativity Needs a Crew
30:50 - Viking Funeral Origin Story
33:03 - Fear of Regret as Fuel
35:05 - Calculated Risks Over Gambling
37:08 - Strategic Projects and Social Media
42:22 - The Idea Cycle Framework
45:35 - Where AI Helps and Misses
51:08 - AI as a Tool and Its Tradeoffs
55:02 - Creativity Beyond Business
56:44 - Applying Creativity Tools to Life
01:01:10 - Final Thanks and Wrap Up
Resources mentioned:
Several books (for adults and childen) referenced written by Kyle, can be found here: https://kylescheele.com/Books TED Talk: How to Find a Wonderful Idea — OK Go, on creativity and discovery Vivian Maier — street photographer whose work was discovered posthumously Tony Robbins — Business Mastery referenced by Dwayne ChatGPT / AI — referenced throughoutQuotes:
“ I always say creativity is a team sport because life is a team sport. You are not designed to do any of this stuff on your own, and even if you did, what would be the point of it all?” - Kyle Scheele
“ On my third video, I went from 17 followers to a million followers, and that changed the course of my business, my trajectory, my life. It opened so many doors for me, and that all happened off a video that I almost didn't post because I almost didn't post any of them because I was waiting for the right time and the right place. “ - Kyle Scheele
“ Give everyone notebooks on your team. Just give them a pocket notebook and go, "Hey, here's the things I want you to start looking for. This week, here's a focus.” - Kyle Scheele
“ The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw (quoted by Kyle Scheele)
“ If you're not innovating, you're dying, and that is just the truth.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
About Kyle Scheele: Kyle is an author, speaker, and creativity expert known for turning bold ideas into unforgettable results — from hosting a Viking funeral for the regrets of 21,000 people to launching the world's first fake marathon. With more than 750 keynotes delivered in all 50 states, Kyle combines humor, sharp insights, and real-world experimentation to help organizations unlock creativity and innovation at scale. He has worked with teams at Walmart, Deloitte, Fidelity, and Chick-fil-A, and his work has been featured in WIRED, The Washington Post, Fast Company, and Yahoo!. His books include We Put a Man on the Moon, How to Host a Viking Funeral, A Pizza With Everything On It, and A Sunday With Everything On It.
Connect with Kyle Scheele:https://kylescheele.com/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 27 May 2026 - 1h 02min - 143 - 140: Why Every Person Is Creative with Kyle Scheele
Most people think creativity is something you either have or you don't — a gift, a gene, a mysterious lightning bolt that strikes a chosen few. Kyle Scheelehas spent his career dismantling that belief, and in this conversation he makes the case that creativity isn't magic at all. It's problem-solving. And everyone already does it, every single day.
In Part 1 of this episode:
Why your brain is not a truth-seeking machine — it's a belief justification machine: give it the belief "I'm not creative" and it will spend the rest of your life finding evidence to prove you rightKyle's spontaneous ideation theory — the creativity myth he compares to the 17th century scientific belief that dirty rags and wheat kernels spontaneously generated mice, and why most people's understanding of where ideas come from is just as wrongThe coffee shop moment that defined Kyle's career: his friend Isaac told him, "most people come in here, talk about an idea, and the next time you hear about it, it's just an idea again — you come in two days later editing the footage"How Kyle went from broke high schooler selling "Osteoporosis is bad to the bone" T-shirts out of the school lunch room to getting a line into Urban Outfitters in his first year of college — and what that early experience installed in him about figuring things outWhy 70% of the time, when companies give their teams the bandwidth to explore a challenge internally, the answer is already there — it's just inside the head of someone who hasn't been asked yet (Harvard Business Review, cited on stage)Content Warning: This episode includes a brief discussion of childhood suicidal ideation. Kyle shares openly about his experience as a child feeling isolated in school and experiencing dark thoughts, before a friendship changed his perspective. The conversation is handled with care and context, but we want our listeners to be prepared.
If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 — the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline — available 24/7 in both the US and Canada.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Creativity as Problem Solving
00:36 - Podcast Welcome and Guest Intro
03:24 - Turning Ideas Into Action
06:33 - Early Hustle T Shirt Business
11:40 - Belief Systems Block Creativity
15:27 - Ambition Versus Contentment
20:59 - No Right or Wrong in Ideas
25:06 - AI Limits and Skin in Game
26:46 - School Struggles and Finding Belonging
28:44 - It Only Takes One Person To Make An Impact
29:36 - Creative Kid Origins
30:12 - Student Council Confidence
31:45 - Baby Steps Momentum
32:15 - Window Of Possibility
33:45 - Vision Into Action
35:08 - Fuel Creativity Thrives Within Constraints
36:49 - Recovering Curiosity
39:34 - Questioning Limiting Beliefs
44:15 - Everyone Is Creative
45:41 - Claiming Artist Identity
48:29 - Business Needs Crystal Clear Goals
51:12 - Creativity As Problem Solving
52:39 - Unlocking Team Innovation
57:27 - Closing Remarks and Stay Tuned For Part 2
Resources mentioned:
Several books (for adults and childen) referenced written by Kyle, can be found here: https://kylescheele.com/BooksHarvard Business Review study on internal innovationHeather Moyse — Olympic athlete referenced by Dwayne re: chunking goalsSpontaneous generation theory / Francesco Redi experiments — referenced in context of the creativity mythOrbis Medicinae — Jan Baptist van Helmont, referenced in context of spontaneous generationSteve Jobs interview — paraphrased by Kyle re: everything in the world being made by people no smarter than youLeanScaper Operations Intensive — conference where Dwayne first saw Kyle speakQuotes:
“ What you might consider might be right or wrong is really based on what's the possibility of it happening, and then it'll only be judged when you look back on it in history.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ If you don't get clear on that goal, it's hard to know where to go.” - Kyle Scheele
“ Creativity is just problem-solving. Every idea is the solution to some problem.” - Kyle Scheele
"If it never gets any better than this, what a life. But I think it can get better than this." - Kyle Scheele
About Kyle Scheele: Kyle Scheele is an author, speaker, and creativity expert known for turning bold ideas into unforgettable results — from hosting a Viking funeral for the regrets of 21,000 people to launching the world's first fake marathon. With more than 750 keynotes delivered in all 50 states, Kyle combines humor, sharp insights, and real-world experimentation to help organizations unlock creativity and innovation at scale. He has worked with teams at Walmart, Deloitte, Fidelity, and Chick-fil-A, and his work has been featured in WIRED, The Washington Post, Fast Company, and Yahoo!. His books include We Put a Man on the Moon, How to Host a Viking Funeral, A Pizza With Everything On It, and A Sunday With Everything On It.
Connect with Kyle Scheele:https://kylescheele.com/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 20 May 2026 - 59min - 142 - 139: Passion, Purpose, and the Next Step with Kyle & Brent Pease
InPart 2, Kyle and Brent Peasego beyond the race course and into the harder terrain — the screaming match in a New York City taxi after a broken wheelchair nearly ended their marathon, the board member who called every morning during school drop-off, and what it actually takes to build an organization that can run without you.
This is where the mission meets the mechanics, and where two brothers figure out how to grow up together in public.
In this episode:
How Kyle and Brent built the Kyle Pease Foundation from scratch — including the nine months it took to help their very first family, the decision to race at least once a month to create visibility, and how they've grown from six events in 2013 to 64 events across 14 states last year The New York City Marathon story: the wheelchair broke mid-race, Brent spent an hour trying to fix it with help from the NYPD, and eventually told Kyle he was done — and what Kyle said back that got them across the finish line Brent's framework for hiring in a nonprofit: passion for the mission matters more than fit for the role, and for every non-disabled hire, he wants to add another employee with a disability doing real work — not stuffing envelopes The Dick Hoyt lesson — the father behind the famous push-assist duo called Brent before the 2018 IRONMAN World Championship and gave him these words of advice: "just keep pushing the pedals" How Kyle became the athlete-coach he is today: years of sitting on the sidelines, listening to adults talk, and watching his brother compete gave him an observer's precision that most coaches never developSupport the Kyle Pease Foundation Dwayne is matching donations — up to $5,000 total. Every dollar counts twice right now: 👉 Donate here:https://kyle-pease-foundation-inc.networkforgood.com/events/99987-the-dwayne-kerrigan-podcast
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Purpose Meets Passion
00:22 - Podcast Intro And Setup
01:25 - Priorities And Time Juggling
03:13 - Scaling A Mission Nonprofit
05:52 - Mentors And Running It Like Business
08:51 - Spreading The Mission Through Racing
12:42 - Measuring Impact And Growth
14:25 - Adaptive Equipment And Inclusion
19:00 - Speaking And Education Programs
21:58 - Kona Gear Innovation
24:46 - When Things Break And Tempers Flare
28:26 - Brotherhood Evolved
29:00 - Humanity in Relationships
30:44 - Keep Pushing Pedals
33:47 - Fiercely Experience It
34:12 - Hawaii Cutoff Heartbreak
35:51 - Still Growing Forward
37:33 - Family Balance and Kids
39:17 - Twin Brother Dynamics
41:16 - Parenting and Inclusion
44:43 - Kyle as Coach
49:20 - Scaling Beyond Racing
53:06 - Volunteer and Donation Match
55:51 - Closing Thanks and Disclaimers
Resources mentioned:
Beyond the Finish — Kyle and Brent Pease’s book The Kyle Pease Foundation — kylepeasefoundation.org TED Talk: The Way We Think About Charity Is Dead Wrong — Dan Pallotta The Hoyt family — Dick and Rick Hoyt, pioneer push-assist racing duo Field of Dreams — film referenced by Kyle and Brent Tony Robbins — referenced by Dwayne: "emotion is motion" Alvin Law — thalidomide survivor and speaker referenced by Dwayne IRONMAN World Championship, Kona, HawaiiQuotes:
“ It does not have to be something that we fiercely protect. You know, it's something that we can all fiercely experience.” - Brent Pease
“ I think that we're still growing. We're still evolving. When you stop growing, that's when you need to walk away from whatever you’re doing.” - Kyle Pease
“It got the point where I basically just looked at him. I was like, dude, I'm done. I'm out. This isn't us. I dunno what we're doing. And Kyle said, well, you can quit, but I'm gonna finish.” - Brent Pease
"These small lessons inside of our relationships that teach us about humanity — a lot of times what's missing in the world, and you guys are sharing it through stories like that, which I think is supremely powerful.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ Because finding people who love what the mission is, like, that's more critical to me than finding the person who fits the exact role. Because if you have somebody who loves what you do and believes in it - a true believer if you will - then they're gonna be able to lean into whatever the task is and grow because they're willing to do it for the people that we serve.” - Brent Pease
About Kyle and Brent Pease:Kyle Pease is a six-time IRONMAN finisher and co-founder of The Kyle Pease Foundation (KPF), born with cerebral palsy and widely regarded as one of the most compelling voices on disability inclusion in the country. Brent Pease is an endurance athlete, coach, and Executive Director of KPF, who has raced alongside Kyle in over 100 events including six IRONMAN triathlons.
Together they made history as the first push-assist brother team to complete the IRONMAN World Championship in Kona in 2018, and have since helped raise well over $10 million in support of athletes with disabilities.
Connect with the Kyle Pease Foundation: https://kylepeasefoundation.org/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan:
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 13 May 2026 - 57min - 141 - 138: Brotherhood, Resilience & the Ironman with Kyle & Brent Pease
Kyle and Brent Pease have completed more than 100 races together — including two IRONMAN World Championships in Kona, Hawaii — and in 2024 they broke the push-assist course record with a finish time of 14 hours, 8 minutes, and 3 seconds.
Kyle, born with cerebral palsy, is the coach, the motivator, and the athlete who has to be the most positive force in the world for 15 hours straight while his brother, Brent, pushes him across 140.6 miles. What looks like a sports story from the outside is something much harder to categorize: a 15-year study in resilience, gratitude, and what it actually means to show up when both of you want to quit.
In Part 1 of their conversation:
How Brent and Kyle broke the push-assist course record at the 2024 IRONMAN World Championship in Kona, Hawaii — and what 15 years of racing together has taught themWhy Brent says true balance is an illusion — and how he and Kyle define "all in" as the real unit of energy management, shifting fully between Ironman training, family, and the foundation depending on the season Kyle's framework for getting out of dark moments: prayer, music, visualization, and the discipline of reducing the time between a hard moment and a shift in perspective What the foundation's inclusive employment program looks like on the ground How racing together has taught both brothers to say "I'm not okay" — and why that vulnerability has become one of their greatest competitive and leadership advantagesSupport the Kyle Pease Foundation Dwayne is matching donations — up to $5,000 total. Every dollar counts twice right now - Donate here 👉https://kyle-pease-foundation-inc.networkforgood.com/events/99987-the-dwayne-kerrigan-podcast
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Get Out Your Own Way
00:39 - Podcast Welcome
02:29 - Meet Kyle and Brent
04:00 - Ironman Explained
05:50 - Why They Race - Mindset
08:45 - Kyle Positivity Tools
10:12 - Show Up Anyway
13:29 - Dark Days Tools
17:34 - Brent One Step Focus
21:25 - Gratitude in the Body
24:36 - Process Over Outcome
27:44 - Kyle Coaching Brent
31:32 - Brotherhood and Empathy
34:02 - Vulnerability and Faith
41:13 - Business vs Ironman
44:26 - Closing and Subscribe
Resources mentioned:
Beyond the Finish — Kyle and Brent Pease's book The Kyle Pease Foundation (KPF) — kylepeasefoundation.org IRONMAN World Championship Kennesaw State University — Kyle's alma mater Florida State University — Brent's alma mater Tony Robbins — referenced by Dwayne in context of emotional states and the "figure eight"Quotes:
“ Although you don't know what I go through on a daily basis, it is a struggle, right? I choose to look at my life as I get to do this, I don’t have to do this.” - Kyle Pease
“ I would say the hardest thing is that real balance is an illusion. You know, people talk about balance all the time. True balance is knowing when to be all in and what to be all in on.” - Brent Pease
“Ironman isn't for everybody. I mean, less than 1% of triathletes set foot on the Ironman in Hawaii. Kyle's done it twice.” - Brent Pease
"I look at it as an opportunity to showcase my ability rather than my disability." - Kyle Pease
“ I’ve gotten better and better over the years to say, I'm not okay. This doesn't feel good. You know, this is hard.” - Brent Pease
“The mind leaves the relationship before, you know, the physical body leaves the relationship.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ Can you get in the water and just start swimming? Can you do that much? Because you might feel better if you start.” - Brent Pease
About Kyle and Brent Pease:Kyle Pease is a six-time IRONMAN finisher and co-founder of The Kyle Pease Foundation (KPF), born with cerebral palsy and widely regarded as one of the most compelling voices on disability inclusion in the country. Brent Pease is an endurance athlete, coach, and Executive Director of KPF, who has raced alongside Kyle in over 100 events including six IRONMAN triathlons.
Together they made history as the first push-assist brother team to complete the IRONMAN World Championship in Kona in 2018, and have since helped raise well over $10 million in support of athletes with disabilities.
Connect with the Kyle Pease Foundation: https://kylepeasefoundation.org/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 06 May 2026 - 46min - 140 - 137: Building High Performance Teams with Dwayne Kerrigan
What separates average teams from truly high-performing ones?
In this episode, Dwayne Kerrigan breaks down the real mechanics of building high performance teams — from hiring A-players to creating a culture of accountability, coaching, and continuous improvement.
Backed by real-world experience across decades in business, Dwayne walks through the systems, frameworks, and leadership mindset shifts required to build teams that don’t just function but thrive.
You’ll learn why most hiring processes fail, how to identify true A-players, and why the behavior you tolerate ultimately becomes your company’s standard. Dwayne also dives deep into onboarding, coaching, culture, and the hidden psychological patterns that impact performance — including ego, storytelling, and leadership blind spots.
This is not theory, this is a practical blueprint for leaders who want better results through better people.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Ego And Needs
00:39 - Podcast Introduction
01:11 - Why Teams Matter
03:03 - AI And Future Workforce
04:32 - Role Clarity First
06:17 - Interview Intensity
08:58 - Hiring Process Steps
13:58 - Scorecards And Evaluation
16:08 - Compensation And Bonuses
19:19 - Onboarding With Outcomes
22:46 - Episodic Engagement Coaching
26:12 - Culture Standards
28:53 - Measure And Document SOPs
31:19 - My Style Document
35:32 - Hunting For A Players
36:52 - Traits Of High Performers
41:52 - Culture Skill Matrix
43:19 - Developing B Players
44:52 - Coaching Low Culture Talent
46:18 - Managing C Players Fast
48:14 - Story Meaning Behavior Model
52:17 - Standards Above the Line
54:42 - Four Culture Principles
57:06 - Team Dysfunctions Breakdown
01:00:44 - Q&A Backbenching and Ego
01:09:18 - Accountability Without Morale Loss
01:14:16 - Moving Players Up the Chart
01:18:00 - Leadership Growth and Triggers
01:20:57 - Recognizing Base Hits
01:24:06 - Closing and Disclaimers
Key Takeaways:
The Behavior You Tolerate Becomes the StandardHiring A-Players Starts With ClarityAlways Be RecruitingOnboarding Is a Competitive AdvantageCoaching Is Not OptionalMeasure EverythingMost Team Problems Are PsychologicalA, B, and C Players Require Different StrategiesResources Mentioned:
Phil Jones – Exactly What to SayRich Divinney – The AttributesPatrick Lencioni – The Five Dysfunctions of a TeamTony Robbins – Human Needs & Triad FrameworkByron Katie – Loving What IsKeith Cunningham – Business MentorshipReferenced Episodes (The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast):
Phil Jones episode(sales, communication, and training insights) https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/27-exactly-what-to-say-with-phil-m-jones/Rich Divinney episode (attributes + performance under pressure) https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/16-transition-tactics-and-building-high-performance-teams-with-former-navy-seal-rich-diviney/Emma Murray episode (performance mindset + A/B game thinking) https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/61-breaking-the-b-game-loop-how-top-performers-master-their-mindset-with-emma-murray/Also these Emma Murray episodes:
https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/the-mindset-secret-to-crushing-your-b-game-with-emma-murray/https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/127-skillset-vs-mindset-the-real-performance-equation-with-emma-murray/https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/128-critique-over-criticism-emma-murray-on-learning-faster-under-pressure/Quotes:
“Everything we do, we do to meet our needs.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“The behavior that you allow in your presence becomes the standards.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ Keep it simple. Stupid complexity is the enemy of execution.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“The chains of habit are too light to be felt until they’re too heavy to be broken.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Anything you monitor will get better.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Progress equals fulfillment.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Don’t adjust your standards to meet someone’s mediocrity.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 29 Apr 2026 - 1h 25min - 139 - 136: Stop Solving Your Team's Problems with Paul Akers
Most business owners think AI and new technology will fix what's broken in their company. Paul Akers disagrees — and he's been inside factories with 10,000 employees on every continent to back it up.
In Part 2 of this conversation, Paul and Dwayne go deeper into the mechanics of Lean culture, and why the secret to happiness and business success might be the same thing.
In this episode:
Paul's three-word formula for rolling out Lean in any organization without blowing up the culture: slow, consistent, and self-selectionThe 30-minute challenge: instead of solving an employee's problem on the spot, Paul gives them 30 minutes to come up with three solutions on their own — and why that single shift changes everything about how a team operatesWhy Lean is not a burden — it's pure joy: when every tool is where it belongs, every process flows, and people aren't waiting on you to fix things, the business stops grinding and starts movingPaul's take on AI and technology: they are accelerants to a well-run company, not a substitute for oneEpisode Highlights:
00:00 - Technology Not The Answer
00:17 - Podcast Intro And Setup
01:20 - Change Only When Ready
01:58 - Burn The Ships Commitment
03:05 - Slow Consistent Self Selection
04:11 - The Bob Conversation
06:17 - Labor Laws And Firing Customers
07:14 - Communicate With Video
09:11 - Lean Should Feel Fun
10:28 - Tools And Process Thinking
13:00 - Progress Equals Happiness
13:33 - Gemba Walkthrough Basics
15:22 - Teach People To Solve Problems
17:30 - Meetings Are Mostly Waste
20:19 - No Departments Just Lean
21:25 - What Gemba Really Means
22:56 - Job Sites And Lean Visits
25:21 - Action This Day - Winston Churchill
28:43 - Capture Lists And Proximity
31:04 - Text Expanders For Flow
32:23 - Instant App Sharing
32:54 - Flow With Text Expanders
34:10 - Avoiding Overproduction
34:32 - What Slow Really Means
36:02 - Lean Health Basics
38:47 Lean Life Happiness Map
40:36 - Filling Knowledge Gaps
42:34 - One Improvement Daily
44:34 - AI As An Accelerant
46:31 - Simple Finance Systems
49:07 - Lean Culture At Home
52:43 - Japan Mission Requirements
54:25 - Hiring For Humility
56:24 - Lean Is Fun Closing
58:23 - Where To Find Paul
59:59 - Podcast Wrap Up
Resources mentioned:
2 Second Lean — Paul AkersLean Health, Lean Travel, Lean Life, Banish Sloppiness — Paul AkersToyota Production System (TPS)Kaizen foam — referenced tool for visual process organization5 Whys — Japanese problem-solving method referencedTraining Within Industry (TWI) — referenced frameworkGetting Things Done— book by David AllenFastCap YouTube channel — https://www.youtube.com/user/fastcaptvQuotes:
“ The answer to having a great company is not to focus on technology or focus on AI. Those are tools that are accelerants to a well run company. You still have to have a well run, well organized company with well-trained people.” - Paul Akers
“ I almost don't know what's going on in my company anymore. It's, it's so, they're, they're so far ahead.” - Paul Akers
“ I met a lot of my needs of significance and certainty by solving people's problems for them.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ Slow, consistent and self-select. Self-select. The people that don't wanna do this will self-select out.” - Paul Akers
“ People are depressed, because nothing's changing. And matter of fact, they're in decline. This Lean thing, this idea of continuous improvement is like the secret to life.” - Paul Akers
About Paul Akers:Paul Akers is the founder and president of FastCap, a product development company specializing in woodworking tools and hardware for professional builders, started in his garage in 1997. FastCap now has thousands of distributors in over 40 countries and launches 20–30 innovative products per year. Paul is the author of 2 Second Lean — now available in 15 languages and a Shingo Institute award winner — along with many additional books. He has won Seattle Business Magazine's Business Executive of the Year and spoken in over 34 countries.
Connect with Paul Akers: https://paulakers.net/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 22 Apr 2026 - 1h 01min - 138 - 135: The Lean Maniac: Paul Akers on Eliminating Waste
Paul Akers started FastCap in his garage with no MBA, no funding, and one simple conviction: fix what bugs you. Today FastCap ships over 2,000 products to more than 40 countries, and runs on a philosophy so simple it fits in two words — eliminate waste.
In Part 1 of this conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan sits down with Paul to unpack the Lean methodology that made it all possible, and why it has nothing to do with manufacturing.
In this episode:
Paul breaks down the eight wastes of Lean thinking — overproduction, transportation, inventory, defects, over-processing, wasted motion, customer waiting, and wasting human potential — using a Costco toilet paper run as the most memorable example you'll ever hearWhy Paul calls himself a "Lean maniac", not a lean practitioner: "How do I improve this? And how do I make it easier for everyone around me?" — the two questions that drive every decision at FastCapThe communication standard Paul holds his entire organization to: no one should ever have to ask you a question twice, and why every back-and-forth email chain is a symptom of a deeper waste problemHow FastCap documents every single process — from cleaning a toilet to setting up a $250,000 injection molding machine — using eight-step visual SOPs, QR codes, and unlisted YouTube videos that any employee can access instantlyWhy Paul starts every Lean implementation the same way, regardless of company size: the bathroom. And why every visitor to FastCap — including presidents of major corporations — cleans the bathroom before they're allowed a tourThe mindset Paul refuses to argue with: if you're not ready to change, he's not interested in convincing you — and why that boundary is itself a Lean principleEpisode Highlights:
00:00 - No Questions Twice
00:22 - Podcast Welcome
00:54 - Meet Paul Akers
04:37 - FastCap Origin Story
08:31 - Lean Gospel Mindset
10:34 - Lean Maniac Defined
13:42 - Eight Wastes Explained
17:03 - Small Daily Improvements
20:10 - Hunger and Underdogs
28:31 - Lean History Lesson
31:36 - Toyota Just In Time
34:15 - Skeptic to Believer
35:25 - Lean Is People First
36:33 - Stop The Line Mindset
38:00 - Three Habits Of Toyota
40:46 - Morning Meetings
42:45 - Dialogue Not Monologue
43:26 - Keynote Agenda And Culture
48:03 - Defects And Kanban Flow
51:56 - One Hour Before Work Pays
53:59 - Ego And Leadership Growth
57:08 - How To Start
01:03:16 - Standard Work And QR Training
01:07:30 - Who Actually Changes
01:08:22 - Wrap Up And Disclaimers
Resources mentioned:
2 Second Lean — Paul AkersLean Health, Lean Travel, Lean Life, Banish Sloppiness — Paul AkersThe Amezawa Legacy — Paul AkersLean the Gospel Dressed Up in a Business Suit — Paul Akers (in progress at time of recording)Out of the Crisis — Dr. W. Edwards DemingToyota Production System (TPS)FastCap — Paul Akers' companyBob Taylor / Taylor Guitars — referenced as Paul's early mentorTraining Within Industry (TWI) — referenced frameworkFastCap YouTube channel — https://www.youtube.com/user/fastcaptvQuotes:
"I have no time whatsoever to convince you of common sense. Zero." - Paul Akers
“ I read Dick and Jane like 10 times when I had to read it in front of the class. I had to read it over and over and over again and memorize it so I didn't screw it up when I read in front of the class.” - Paul Akers
“ But there's one thing that I've kind of realized in life is that the reason why we don't have something in our life is because of the story that we're telling ourselves.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Everything I look at, I'm always thinking, how do I improve? How do I increase the quality and reduce the burden on me and the people around me? So I want everything to be. Easy for everyone. No struggle in flow.” - Paul Akers
“ No one should ever ask you a question twice. If you communicate to someone, your communication should be so clear that when you say it and the words come out of your mouth, they go, I understand exactly what you want.” - Paul Akers
About Paul Akers:Paul Akers is the founder and president of FastCap, a product development company specializing in woodworking tools and hardware for professional builders, started in his garage in 1997. FastCap now has thousands of distributors in over 40 countries and launches 20–30 innovative products per year. Paul is the author of 2 Second Lean — now available in 15 languages and a Shingo Institute award winner — along with many additional books including Lean Health, Lean Travel, and Lean Life. He has won Seattle Business Magazine's Business Executive of the Year and spoken in over 34 countries.
Connect with Paul Akers: https://paulakers.net/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 15 Apr 2026 - 1h 09min - 137 - 134: Leadership Without Heroics: Part 2 with Dwayne Kerrigan
Most entrepreneurs think the next stage of their business requires a better strategy. Dwayne Kerrigan disagrees. In Part 2 of his live keynote at the LeanScaper Operations Intensive in Cape Coral, Florida, he makes the case that what's actually required is a different identity — and that without that shift, no system, tool, or team will get you where you're trying to go.
In this episode:
Dwayne walks through his personal identity chart — from the "warrior" and "general" identities that ran his life for years, to the consciously designed identities he operates from today, including the Chairman, the Profit Seeker, and the Peak Performance Coach Why the Serenity Prayer became one of the most powerful business tools Dwayne ever learned — and how distinguishing what you can and can't control transformed his leadership at 32 years old, running an $18M business with 300 employees A live identity creation exercise: how to write your own eulogy for a specific business role, and why that process is the starting point for becoming who your business needs you to be The eight stages of the entrepreneur and the business lifecycle — and why understanding exactly where you are in both is critical to knowing which identity needs to show up The four economic seasons (spring, summer, fall, winter) and why Dwayne believes the landscaping industry is currently sitting somewhere between late fall and early winter 40 years of lessons learned — distilled into the principles that have shaped how Dwayne builds, leads, and recoversEpisode Highlights:
00:00 - Tsunami Of Change
00:27 - Podcast Mission
00:59 - Internal Vs External
02:07 - Serenity Prayer Lesson
03:42 - Identity Chart Origins
04:32 - From Warrior To General
06:10 - Purpose And Marriage
07:47 - Building New Identities
08:48 - Chairman Identity Script
09:50 - Language And Questions
12:38 - Borrowing Role Models
13:41 - Post Fight Debrief
14:40 - Create Your Identity
16:48 - Write Your Eulogy
17:46 - Visualization And Realism
19:01 - Do The Work
19:48 - Physiology Guidelines
20:15 - Physiology and Rituals
20:57 - Energy and Emotions
22:00 - Identity Agent Tool
23:53 - Daily Identity Editing
24:56 - Future Shock and Adaptation
26:22 - Economic Seasons Framework
27:58 - Entrepreneur Stages
29:13 - Business Lifecycle Reality
31:33 - Shift Identity in 3D
31:56 - Courage and Deep Thinking
34:57 - Lessons Learned Log
37:19 - Hard Won Business Rules
40:19 - Final Fear and Farewell
Resources Mentioned:
Think and Grow Rich — Napoleon Hill Stephen Covey — The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, Covey Institute Keith Cunningham — referenced as the "Rich Dad" in Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad Tony Robbins — Date With Destiny, UPW seminars Identity framework AI agent — available at The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast: https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/identity-framework/Quotes:
“You can either be right or you can be rich, but you can't be both.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“I did this for my wife through a lot of pain and self suffering, I had to get to the point where the general just couldn't run the show anymore because it was just not sustainable.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“You don't experience the life that you live. You're experiencing the life that you focus on.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“ My greatest fear in life is on my final day to meet the man that I could have been.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 08 Apr 2026 - 42min - 136 - 133: Leadership Without Heroics: Part 1 with Dwayne Kerrigan
Most entrepreneurs don't burn out because the business gets too hard — they burn out because they never stopped being the operator. In this keynote, recorded live at the LeanScaper Operations Intensive in Cape Coral, Florida, Dwayne Kerrigan makes the case that the real battle isn't strategic, it's psychological. Until you understand the most powerful force in the human condition, no framework, system, or tool will save you.
In this episode:
Dwayne breaks down the operator's mindset vs. the owner's mindset — and why operators get tired while owners get rich Why your purpose has to be large enough to keep you out of "the tyranny of how" — the trap that pulls owners back into the weeds The identity principle Dwayne calls the single most important lesson from 10+ years at Tony Robbins' side: the most powerful force in the human condition is to remain congruent with how we identify ourselves The event–meaning–emotion–behavior chain, and how changing the meaning you attach to an event changes your results How physiology, language, and focus (the triad) function as your meaning-making filter — and how to use them to access empowering states more consistentlyEpisode Highlights:
00:00 - Purpose Over How
00:27 - Podcast Welcome
00:59 - Event Introduction
02:53 - Dwayne Takes Stage
04:12 - Finding The Why
05:40 - Mentors And Lessons
08:58 - Business Root Causes
11:55 - Operator Vs Owner
14:48 - Core Values And Purpose
19:37 - Identity Drives Action
21:20 - Bus Fight Identity Shift
24:14 - Reframing a Past Bully
25:17 - Identity and No Negotiation
25:51 - Procrastination Becomes Identity
27:47 - Event Meaning Emotion Loop
31:34 - The Triad Explained
32:45 - Physiology Power Positions
36:31 - Energy Thermostat and Mirroring
40:47 - Language Questions Shape Reality
45:21 - Focus Habits and Meaning
47:49 - Closing Thanks and Disclaimer
Resources Mentioned:
The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People — Stephen Covey Keith Cunningham — referenced as the "Rich Dad" in Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad Tony Robbins — Platinum Partners immersion program Simon Sinek — referenced in the context of finding your why John Grinder — creator of NLP, mirroring and matching technique LMN (Landscape Management Network) — referenced by Dwayne and Mark BradleyQuotes:
“Taking your passion and turning it into a business is usually not a good wealth strategy.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“If you stand like this for 10 minutes a day, it will increase your testosterone 20%. You can look this up. This is true 20%. It'll increase your testosterone. If you stand like this, it will reduce your cortisol from anywhere from 23 to 25% and it will increase the odds of you being able to make a decision by 33%.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“I'm in the ground and I'm down there and I'm like, and I remember thinking, and through the course of this whole thing, this whole event, is that I am never, ever going to get beaten up again.
"From that day forward, I started working out…” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“The most powerful force in the human condition is to remain congruent with how we identify ourselves.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Change the meaning, change the emotion, change your life.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Operators get tired and owners get rich.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 01 Apr 2026 - 49min - 135 - 132: Forgiveness, Betrayal, and the Cost of Success with Adel Sayegh
In Part 2 of this powerful conversation on The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, Adel Sayegh shares the deeper chapters of his entrepreneurial journey — including betrayal in business, a life-threatening health crisis, and the resilience required to rebuild both physically and professionally.
After helping grow a company from the ground up to more than 1,200 employees, Adel watched it eventually go public for billions of dollars without receiving anything himself. For many people, an experience like that could lead to lasting bitterness. Instead, Adel chose a different path — one rooted in forgiveness and perspective.
But the challenges didn’t stop there.
Adel also opens up about facing a serious illness that forced him to confront his own mortality and rethink what success truly means. Through that experience, he rebuilt his health, refocused his priorities, and ultimately emerged stronger than before.
Today, Adel reflects on how adversity — whether in business, health, or life — can become the foundation for growth. His story is a powerful reminder that success isn’t just about wealth or status, but about resilience, forgiveness, and the ability to keep moving forward even after life’s most difficult setbacks.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Opening quote on forgiveness and harboring hatred
00:25 - Show intro and welcome back to Part 2
01:28 - Building a global security empire and the China partnership betrayal
03:58 - How RFID technology revolutionized retail loss prevention
06:10 - Facial recognition's secret use in catching shoplifters
09:08 - GPS chips in pharmaceutical bottles to track stolen opioids
10:45 - The Ring camera Super Bowl commercial backlash
14:22 - Microchip technology debate - child safety vs. privacy
20:15 - Diagnosed with pancreatic cancer at 49 while at the peak of success
42:38 - Surviving the night when doctors said he wouldn't - and his wife's unconditional love
46:50 - Discovering the company was embezzled while fighting for his life
1:06:18 - Choosing forgiveness over prosecution and finding peace
1:12:10 - From discipline-driven to commitment-driven; a philosophical shift on purpose
1:17:00 - The Unbroken Foundation mission to end child trafficking
1:29:15 - Closing prayer and final words of encouragement
Key Takeaways:
- True peace is impossible while holding onto hatred or resentment.Forgiveness is often more about healing yourself than the other person.Building a global company requires persistence, trust, and innovation.Financial success alone does not guarantee fulfillment or peace.Perspective and resilience help transform betrayal into growth.
Quotes:
“You can't have a hundred percent peace if you are harboring hatred on anyone.” - Adel Sayegh
“I don't approve what they do.” - Adel Sayegh
“I don't have them in my life, but I've forgave them because that was also medicine for me.” - Adel Sayegh
“ I never even dreamed of, you know, growing up a little kid immigrant from Jordan that I would have, the lifestyle that I would have.” - Adel Sayegh
“On a marketing level that’s about as bad as the Bud Light commercial.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Your story is unbelievable. You are an example of evolution and grace and commitment to the values and beliefs and faith that you have.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Adel Sayegh’s story is one of grit, grace, and perseverance. From humble beginnings in his garage, he built a company that reached a $1 billion valuation. A Marine Corps veteran and pancreatic cancer survivor, Adel has overcome tremendous adversity, shaping his mission to use every challenge as a platform to serve others. His unwavering faith in God has been the cornerstone of his journey, grounding him through both triumphs and storms. Today, Adel speaks to entrepreneurs, leaders, and dreamers, challenging them to rise above adversity, pursue excellence, and live with purpose. His message of resilience, faith, and hope leaves a lasting imprint on audiences, calling them to embrace challenges as opportunities and build a legacy that outlives them.
Connect with Adel Sayegh:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adel-sayegh-06109a9/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan:
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 25 Mar 2026 - 1h 31min - 134 - 131: Lose Everything, Build Again: Adel Sayegh on Resilience, Faith & Reinvention
In this deeply personal conversation, Adel Sayegh joins Dwayne Kerrigan to share Part 1 of his story of losing everything — financially, professionally, and emotionally — and the lessons that followed.
Adel opens up about the moment when the life he had built suddenly collapsed. The house, the car, the career, and the identity that came with success were all gone. What followed was one of the most defining moments of his life: facing fear, uncertainty, and the realization that everything he once believed about stability and success could disappear overnight.
But this story is not about loss — it’s about resilience.
Adel reflects on how faith, humility, and the support of his wife helped him rebuild from the ground up. He explains how identity often becomes tied to status and material success, and why losing those things forced him to rediscover who he really was.
This episode is a powerful reminder that adversity is not the end of the story. Often, it’s the beginning of the one that matters most.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 - Opening: Finding meaning and purpose in life's challenges
00:31 - Introduction to Adel Sayegh's remarkable journey of resilience
01:27 - Growing up in poverty in Jordan during the 1967 war
5:14 - Starting with childhood: The foundation of character
9:37 - The watermelon truck story: Early entrepreneurial lessons
12:06 - Life in a one-room house with 11 family members
16:23 - Zimbabwe lesson: True happiness vs material wealth
22:44 - Hit by a car at age 5: Experiencing hatred and survival
26:22 - Joining the Marines: Brotherhood and pushing beyond limits
33:20 - MetLife success: Youngest manager making $250K at 28
57:30 - The OJ Simpson moment: Vision for surveillance technology
1:05:52 - Rock bottom: Losing the house and filing bankruptcy
1:07:30 - Wife's ultimate sacrifice: Offering her jewelry to save the dream
1:09:02 - The turnaround: Business takes off and light at end of tunnel
Key Takeaways:
- Success can become dangerously tied to identity and statusLosing everything can reveal who you truly areSupport from loved ones can anchor you during crisisResilience is built through hardship, not comfortFaith and perspective can reshape how we view failureStarting over requires humility and courageTrue strength comes from facing adversity head-on
Quotes:
“I was vulnerable because for the first time in my life I just, I thought I had it all figured out and now I don’t.” - Adel Sayegh
“I just lost everything. I lost my house, I lost my job, I lost my car, I lost my identity.” - Adel Sayegh
“Now fear said, what? What if this doesn’t work out? What if this isn’t going anywhere?” - Adel Sayegh
“Businesses is a series of relationships and one of the biggest relationships that we have is with ourself.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Your story is unbelievable. It’s an unshakeable journey of overcoming obstacles.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Adel Sayegh’s story is one of grit, grace, and perseverance. From humble beginnings in his garage, he built a company that reached a $1 billion valuation. A Marine Corps veteran and pancreatic cancer survivor, Adel has overcome tremendous adversity, shaping his mission to use every challenge as a platform to serve others. His unwavering faith in God has been the cornerstone of his journey, grounding him through both triumphs and storms. Today, Adel speaks to entrepreneurs, leaders, and dreamers, challenging them to rise above adversity, pursue excellence, and live with purpose. His message of resilience, faith, and hope leaves a lasting imprint on audiences, calling them to embrace challenges as opportunities and build a legacy that outlives them.
Connect with Adel Sayegh:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adel-sayegh-06109a9/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan:
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 18 Mar 2026 - 1h 13min - 133 - 130: Leadership, Ownership & Winning the Cup with Brad May
In this powerful episode, Brad May returns for Part 2 of a raw and honest conversation about leadership, resilience, identity, and what it truly takes to win at the highest level.
Brad reflects on being traded multiple times during his NHL career, adapting to new teams, and learning how to integrate into different locker rooms without disrupting culture. He shares the emotional journey of winning the Stanley Cup with the Anaheim Ducks — and why celebrating that moment with his family meant more than the trophy itself.
The conversation expands beyond hockey into business leadership. Brad breaks down why coaches are “salesmen,” why clarity of vision is essential, and why delegation without interference builds trust. He unpacks the difference between playing not to lose versus playing to win — and why excuses quietly erode culture.
At its core, this episode is about ownership. Ownership of performance. Ownership of mistakes. Ownership of mindset.
As Brad says, there is no “try.” You either do or you don’t.
Episode Highlights:
0:00 - Mindset over body: eliminating "try" and taking ownership
0:34 - Welcome and introduction to part two of the episode
1:31 - Adapting to seven different NHL teams and building new relationships
6:00 - Winning the 2007 Stanley Cup with Anaheim after 16-year career
7:50 - Scott Niedermeyer's perspective on being lucky to share the Cup with family
11:04 - What makes a good coach: selling a system and getting buy-in
13:49 - Comparing coaching styles: Mark Crawford vs Ted Nolan vs Randy Carlisle
15:30 - Ted Nolan's simple advice: "Just play left wing" analogy
17:31 - Randy Carlisle's relentless work ethic and pursuit of excellence
21:28 - Why some players leave the game bitter and unfulfilled
25:08 - Identity after hockey: from "I used to be" to "I am a hockey player"
30:28 - Eliminating excuses: "You either do or you don't"
33:28 - Leadership lesson from Brian Burke: delegating responsibility to coaches
55:38 - Playing to win vs playing not to lose: the power of identifying your goal
58:38 - The bar speech that united the team and families to win together
Key Takeaways:
- Leaders must communicate crystal-clear goals (short, medium, and long term).Identity loss can derail high performers after retirement or career shifts.Playing to “not lose” creates hesitation; playing to win creates momentum.Ownership beats excuses — every time.Leaders must reflect on whether failure was execution or lack of resources.Energy, clarity, and consistency win over time.You must declare what you want — silence guarantees nothing.
Resources Mentioned:
- The Secret (law of attraction concept)Tony Robbins – mindset principle referencedNIL (Name, Image, Likeness) era in NCAA athleticsCold plunge discipline practiceBillions (TV show reference for executive coaching concept)
Notable Quotes:
- “Your mind is in charge. Doesn’t matter what your body feels, just do it.” - Brad May“It’s okay if you’re not successful, but own it and learn from it and let’s go. Let’s keep moving.” - Brad May“The moment that a coach compromises his values, he's not the same guy and he's probably not as good.” - Brad May“A coach is just a salesman. He needs 25 guys to buy in.” - Brad May“You gotta enjoy the small wins.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“There's just some people, some leaders, who are just not having the hard enough conversations.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“You also have to have people around you that are willing to say - hey, you're being either too easy or too hard. Like you just, you have to have a team around you to help you identify as a leader.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Guest Bio:
Brad May is a former NHL forward whose 19-year career spanned more than 1,000 regular-season games across the league. He is a Stanley Cup champion, winning with the Anaheim Ducks in 2007, and remains a recognizable figure in hockey history for his 1993 overtime playoff goal against Boston, remembered by fans as the iconic “May Day” moment.
Following his retirement from professional hockey in 2010, May transitioned into broadcasting, working as an NHL analyst with CBC, Rogers Sportsnet, and AT&T SportsNet, where his candid, player-first perspective made him a natural presence on air. In 2024, May entered a new chapter off the ice, joining NFP as a Client Executive, where he works with businesses and individuals on insurance and risk management.
Guest Social Links:
Instagram: www.instagram.com/maydayhockey
LinkedIn: ca.linkedin.com/in/brad-may-24228662
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 11 Mar 2026 - 1h 02min - 132 - 129: Character Over Talent: Brad May on Grit, Goals, and Integrity
In this episode of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, former NHL veteran Brad May joins Dwayne for candid conversation about leadership, grit, and longevity — on and off the ice.
Brad reflects on his 19-year NHL career, what separated players who made it from those who didn’t, and why mental fortitude mattered more than raw talent. From locker room lessons and team dynamics to integrity in business and life, Brad shares the foundational principles that shaped his journey: set achievable goals, outwork the competition, do the right thing — even when no one is watching.
He speaks openly about fear, discipline, evolving training methods, investing in himself, and the power of speaking goals into existence. Whether you’re building a business, leading a team, or chasing a dream, this conversation is a masterclass in character, culture, and consistency.
Episode Highlights:
0:00 - Opening: The power of achievable goals and how success begets success
2:10 - Amazing Race experience: A month of uninterrupted father-daughter bonding
8:13 - Ken May's integrity story: Choosing ethics over extra commission in real estate
13:36 - Playing 1,041 NHL games: The 5% club and what it takes to last 19 years
14:47 - The Miracle on Ice: Herb Brooks' leadership and the power of divide and conquer
21:36 - Training evolution: What Brad wishes he knew then vs. what athletes know now
27:54 - Nathan McKinnon's training: Heavy lifting before games to wake up the nervous system
33:28 - Building championship teams: The right mix of leaders, followers, convicts, and dreamers
39:04 - Locker room lesson: When Pat LaFontaine taught Brad about playing smart vs. playing hard
49:35 - The power of manifestation: Speaking your goals into existence
58:13 - "You can't get blood from a rock": Brad's mental fortitude superpower
1:02:03 - Parenting reflection: Being too soft on the next generation vs. learning through adversity
Key Takeaways:
- Success is the realization of a predetermined goalAchievable goals create momentum and compound winsLongevity requires discipline beyond talentMental fortitude is a competitive advantageYou cannot succeed alone — success is collectiveSpeak goals into existence and back them with action
Resources Mentioned:
- The Secret (law of attraction concept)Miracle on Ice (1980 U.S. Olympic Hockey Team story)Herb Brooks leadership modelJournaling & written goal-setting
Quotes:
- “Set your goals, achievable goals, and you do that on a regular basis and you're gonna get to where you're going.” - Brad May “The definition of success is the realization of a predetermined goal.” - Brad May“You can’t get blood from a rock.” - Brad May“Leadership shows up in a lot of different ways.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“The strongest force in the human psyche is to remain congruent with how we identify ourselves.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Brad May is a former NHL forward whose 19-year career spanned more than 1,000 regular-season games across the league. He is a Stanley Cup champion, winning with the Anaheim Ducks in 2007, and remains a recognizable figure in hockey history for his 1993 overtime playoff goal against Boston, remembered by fans as the iconic “May Day” moment.
Following his retirement from professional hockey in 2010, May transitioned into broadcasting, working as an NHL analyst with CBC, Rogers Sportsnet, and AT&T SportsNet, where his candid, player-first perspective made him a natural presence on air. In 2024, May entered a new chapter off the ice, joining NFP as a Client Executive, where he works with businesses and individuals on insurance and risk management.
Links
Instagram: www.instagram.com/maydayhockey
LinkedIn: ca.linkedin.com/in/brad-may-24228662
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 04 Mar 2026 - 1h 05min - 131 - 128: Critique Over Criticism: Emma Murray on Learning Faster Under Pressure
In Part 2 of this conversation, Emma Murray and Dwayne Kerrigan move from awareness into practical performance tools. Emma introduces one of the most powerful distinctions in high performance: critique versus criticism.
She explains why self-criticism is a survival response that quietly destroys confidence, slows learning, and locks people into repeated mistakes. Through examples from elite sport, sales, leadership, parenting, and everyday life, Emma breaks down how to review performance by examining the entire process — thoughts, feelings, actions, and results — rather than attacking outcomes or identity.
The conversation also dives into fear-based leadership, tunnel vision, stress responses, and why people perform worse when they feel watched, pressured, or unsafe. Emma shares actionable techniques to regain presence under pressure, including breath, body awareness, and “small focus” anchors that keep the mind out of fight-or-flight. This episode equips leaders, entrepreneurs, and performers with a repeatable framework for learning faster, leading better, and performing consistently — even when stakes are high.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 – Emma on self-kindness under pressure and stopping the internal threat response
01:00 – Dwayne intro + framing Part 2: turning attention and mindset into action
02:00 – Critique over criticism: how thoughts drive feelings, actions, and results
03:30 – Outcome focus vs process focus and why pressure hijacks performance
05:05 – How to critique the entire performance process (thinking, feeling, doing)
06:40 – Turning failure into growth by extracting the right lessons
08:00 – Why quarterly reviews fail and daily reflection matters
09:45 – Coaching teams beyond checklists and task correction
11:25 – A-game vs B-game language and building awareness in teams
13:40 – Leaders, fear, control, and psychological safety
15:30 – Running toward outcomes vs accessing creativity and big-picture thinking
17:30 – The “flashlight of attention” metaphor for leaders and parents
19:40 – Stress responses, presence, and anchoring attention (breath, feet, listening)
22:00 – Training attention as a performance muscle
25:45 – Stress cycles, recovery, and sustainable performance
29:10 – Introduction to the Closed Eye Process and presence training
32:00 – Deep dive: critiquing vs criticizing explained step-by-step
36:30 – Survival wiring, subconscious files, and performance memory
39:30 – The CHIMP brain, danger signals, and slipping into B-game
42:30 – Small controllable focus as the pathway back to A-game
Key Takeaways:
- Critique examines process, not personal worthThoughts drive feelings, feelings drive actions, actions drive resultsGrowth comes from extracting learnings — not from failure aloneFear narrows focus and creates tunnel visionSmall, controllable focus prevents fight-or-flightConnection reduces fear and restores execution
Quotes:
“Failure does not give you growth if you are not actually eliciting the lessons from it.” - Emma Murray
“Feet on floor, bum on chair … Bring your attention to your feet, your bum, your breath … those things are gonna anchor you back into the present moment” - Emma Murray
“When all this fails, use your breath” - Emma Murray
“The human mind cannot carry two thoughts simultaneously.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Resources Mentioned
- Critique Over Criticism FrameworkA-Game / B-Game Performance ModelCHIMP Paradox – Dr. Steve PetersClosed-Eye Process
Emma is sought-after by ASX 100 corporations, executives, and the education sector for her unique High Performance Mindfulness practice that drives sustainable improvements in performance, by providing the skills and tools that enable participants to bring their 'A-Game' to high-pressure moments.
Website: https://www.emmamurray.com.au/
Instagram: www.instagram.com/highperformancemindfulness
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/em.murray.mindcoach/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/high-performance-mindfulness/
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 25 Feb 2026 - 46min - 130 - 127: Skillset vs Mindset: The Real Performance Equation with Emma Murray
Performance mindset coach Emma Murray returns to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast to break down why even highly capable people struggle under pressure - and how to fix it.
Emma explains that humans are not wired to perform at their best in business, sport, or life - we’re wired for survival. When pressure hits, our attention naturally drifts to fear, loss, and outcomes we can’t control, pulling us out of the present moment. Through powerful examples from golf, sales, leadership, parenting, and elite sport, Emma shows how performance collapses the moment attention leaves the task.
Together, Dwayne and Emma unpack the difference between skillset and mindset, why elite performers win through attention regulation, and how “chunking down” - narrowing focus to something small, controllable, and strength-based - restores clarity, confidence, and execution.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 – Emma opens by explaining why humans are wired for survival, not greatness.
01:00 – Dwayne introduces Emma and frames the conversation around skillset, mindset, and attention.
03:30 – Emma explains why attention patterns are universal across sport, business, and life.
06:00 – Golf example: how attention drifts under pressure and breaks execution.
08:30 – Skillset vs mindset explained using the “boxes within boxes” analogy.
11:00 – Scott McLaughlin story and consistency through mindset regulation.
13:30 – Expectations, execution, and why lowering outcomes is the wrong solution.
16:00 – Survival wiring: fear of loss vs fear of missing gain.
18:30 – Sales leadership example and why people avoid known next steps.
21:00 – Horse riding comeback story and gratitude removing danger thinking.
23:30 – Freeze response explained and attention leaving the arena.
26:00 – Why leaders can’t fix fear with cheerleading or pressure.
28:30 – Catching attention drift and recognizing A-game vs B-game signals.
31:30 – Small focus strategies for golf, sales, and presentations.
34:30 – Breath as the fastest way to regulate attention and mindset.
38:30 – Process focus vs outcome focus and competitive advantage.
41:30 – Post-execution review introduced: critique over criticism.
44:30 – Bonus segment setup: “Chunking Down” as a performance tool.
47:30 – Chunking down explained with leadership, sales, and riding examples.
Key Takeaways:
- Humans are wired for survival, not peak performancePressure pulls attention away from the present momentSkillset lives inside mindset — mindset determines deliveryOutcomes and comparison destabilize performanceSmall, controllable focus creates safety and clarityBreath is the fastest way to regulate attentionElite performers anchor attention on process, not resultsPerformance improves when danger is removed from the mind
Quotes:
“We are not wired to be great in competition or to be great in sales or business, or even a great friend for that matter, or a great parent. We are just wired for survival.” - Emma Murray
Big stuff, big goals, big expectations, small focus.” - Emma Murray
“If you are stepping into that moment with your attention on the process, you've already got a massive competitive advantage.” - Emma Murray
“Control is an illusion” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Resources Mentioned
- Traditional Mindfulness (adapted by Emma Murray)Chunking Down TechniqueClosed-Eye Processes (mentioned as bonus content)
Emma is sought-after by ASX 100 corporations, executives, and the education sector for her unique High Performance Mindfulness practice that drives sustainable improvements in performance, by providing the skills and tools that enable participants to bring their 'A-Game' to high-pressure moments.
Website: https://www.emmamurray.com.au/
Instagram: www.instagram.com/highperformancemindfulness
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/em.murray.mindcoach/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/high-performance-mindfulness/
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 18 Feb 2026 - 55min - 129 - Bonus Episode - Love Is A Daily Practice
In this special bonus episode recorded ahead of their full mindset conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan and Emma Murray reflect on a deeply personal topic: relationships.
As Valentine’s Day approaches, they explore how intimate relationships often absorb the stress, pressure, and emotional buildup from the outside world. Dwayne shares candidly about his own growth — recognizing how habitual reactions, unmet needs, and old internal stories can surface at home if they’re not processed throughout the day. Emma adds insight into how unconscious patterns, primary questions, and survival wiring shape the way we show up with those we love most.
Together, they discuss raising standards inside the relationship, practicing conscious awareness, meeting your partner’s needs without expectation, and replacing self-judgment with grace. This short but powerful conversation reframes love not as grand gestures, but as attention, awareness, and intentional daily behavior.
Episode Highlights:
0:00 - Introduction: Valentine's Day as a renewal for relationships
0:27 - Viewing Valentine's Day as a time for awareness and meeting needs
1:23 - Why we release stress on loved ones instead of during the day
2:41 - Holding different standards for work vs. intimate relationships
3:43 - The importance of awareness in meeting your partner's needs
4:34 - Breaking habitual negative response patterns in relationships
5:11 - How relationship quality affects every area of life
5:38 - "Chains of habit are too light to be felt until too heavy to be broken"
6:06 - Treating your partner with conscious awareness
7:14 - Focusing on relationship growth: reading, podcasts, and learning
7:53 - Enjoying the process instead of fixating on an end state
8:30 - Getting addicted to lighting up your partner
9:10 - Managing anger and identifying emotional triggers
9:52 - Using Byron Katie's four questions to examine stories we tell ourselves
10:12 - Taking responsibility instead of projecting onto your partner
10:30 - We're all learning - giving yourself and your partner grace
11:54 - Appreciating yourself for being imperfect
Key Takeaways:
- We often release built-up stress on the people we love mostAwareness creates choice inside intimate momentsLove grows when we actively meet one another’s needsSelf-reflection prevents projectionGrace and ownership dissolve conflict faster than blameRelationships are built through process, not perfectionConscious love is practiced — not automatic
Quotes:
- “There’s nothing better in this world and nothing makes life feel greater than having an amazing relationship that is just full of love and abundance when it is going and operating at its peak level.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“ I didn't hold myself to the same standard inside the intimate relationship as I did in my professional life.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“If things are not good in your relationship, they’re not good anywhere you go.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“I think our relationships are very based on just habitual responses.” - Emma Murray“Our relationship is the core of our existence here.” - Emma Murray“The excitement of treating your person that you love most with such conscious awareness.” - Emma Murray
Resources Mentioned
- Loving What Is - Byron KatiePrimary Question Framework (personal development concept referenced)10,000 Hours Principle (mastery concept referenced)
Emma is sought-after by ASX 100 corporations, executives, and the education sector for her unique High Performance Mindfulness practice that drives sustainable improvements in performance, by providing the skills and tools that enable participants to bring their 'A-Game' to high-pressure moments.
Website: https://www.emmamurray.com.au/
Instagram: www.instagram.com/highperformancemindfulness
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/em.murray.mindcoach/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/high-performance-mindfulness/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Sat, 14 Feb 2026 - 12min - 128 - 126: The Real Work Behind AI Implementation with Sarah Jeanneault
In Part 2 of this in-depth conversation, Sarah Jeanneault and Dwayne Kerrigan tackle one of the most misunderstood topics in modern business: AI implementation without foundational process.
Drawing from Sarah’s background in education, finance, trading psychology, and her current role at ProcedureFlow, the discussion reframes AI not as a silver bullet—but as an amplifier of whatever already exists inside an organization. Together, they explore why many companies are failing to see ROI from AI investments, how skipping SOPs and governance creates chaos, and why leaders must slow down before they scale up.
Using powerful metaphors—from sourdough baking to mountain biking—Sarah explains why meaningful AI adoption requires patience, critical thinking, and uncomfortable conversations. The episode also expands into leadership, parenting, culture-building, and the human elements AI will never replace: empathy, judgment, and connection. This is a grounded, honest conversation for leaders who want to use AI responsibly—without gambling their business on hype.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 – Sarah introduces AI implementation using a sourdough recipe analogy
01:00 – Dwayne welcomes listeners and frames Part 2
02:00 – Imposter syndrome, fear, and language we use to protect ourselves
05:00 – Growth mindset and the “10 more steps” principle
08:00 – Parenting, resilience, and building long-term capability
12:00 – Leadership, culture, and why hard conversations matter
16:00 – Why AI investments often fail to produce ROI
20:00 – SOPs, governance, and backing the bus up
25:00 – Customer experience, AI chatbots, and human frustration
30:00 – Agentic AI, avatars, and future customer service models
35:00 – Why AI is already here and cannot be undone
40:00 – Doom scrolling, humanity, and preserving curiosity
46:00 – Data collection as preparation—not prediction
53:00 – Visual flows and simplifying complex knowledge
59:00 – AI timelines, human choice, and optionality
01:05:00 – Where AI helps—and where it shouldn’t replace humans
01:10:00 – Final reflections and resources
Key Takeaways:
- AI amplifies broken systems, it doesn’t fix themSOPs, processes, and governance must come before automationROI fails when AI is implemented for optics instead of outcomesProcess clarity enables both humans and AI to perform betterNot every industry, or company, is ready for AI at the same paceData collection today enables smarter AI decisions tomorrowAI should augment human judgment, not replace itThe future still belongs to human connection, empathy, and choice
Resources Mentioned:
- ProcedureFlow – Enterprise knowledge management platform - https://procedureflow.com/
Notable Quotes:
- “The only difference between a dream and a goal is a timeline.” - Sarah Jeanneault “I want people to think about implementation of ai, like you're following a recipe for something that's really tricky to cook.” - Sarah Jeanneault “ If you are willing to go 10 steps of uncertainty when you feel like you really need to stop, but you're gonna push for 10 more seconds, you are going to get so much further ahead of somebody else.” - Sarah Jeanneault “ Anything worthwhile is hard. If it's not, it's probably not worthwhile.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“ The real meaning behind imposter syndrome is, you know, am I enough?” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Sarah Jeanneault is the Vice President of Marketing at ProcedureFlow, where she’s helping redefine customer experience in the age of AI. With over 20 years of leadership across fintech, wealth management, and brokerage services, Sarah is an award-winning executive, speaker, and founder who brings both personal passion and professional expertise to the table.
In 2023, she was recognized as one of the Top 10 Women Leaders in Finance in the U.S. Known for her dynamic mix of strategic vision and human-centered leadership, Sarah believes lasting success comes from having a goal, a dream, and the determination to pursue it—along with a willingness to keep learning and growing.
Links
LinkedIn:https://ca.linkedin.com/in/iam-sarah-potter
Website: https://procedureflow.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Procedureflow
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/procedureflow
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 11 Feb 2026 - 1h 12min - 127 - 125: Financial Literacy, Education Gaps, and Reinventing Yourself with Sarah Jeanneault
In this wide-ranging conversation, Sarah Jeanneault shares her unconventional journey from struggling with math in school to becoming a respected leader in fintech, trading education, and enterprise knowledge management. She and Dwayne Kerrigan explore the deep gaps in financial literacy, why traditional education often fails to prepare people for real-world decision-making, and how learning truly begins after formal schooling ends.
Sarah explains how she applied adult learning theory to teach herself trading, why psychology matters more than numbers in the markets, and how curiosity, pattern recognition, and humility shaped her success. The discussion expands into the future of education, AI’s role in learning, entrepreneurship, identity shifts after business exits, and the emotional reality of leadership transitions. This episode is a thoughtful examination of growth, risk, and why continuous learning is the most valuable skill anyone can develop.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 – Sarah opens by naming the gap in real-world financial literacy.
02:00 – Dwayne introduces Sarah and frames the episode around learning and reinvention.
05:00 – Sarah shares struggling with math and early assumptions about intelligence.
09:00 – Losing her best friend and questioning the direction of her life.
14:00 – Discovering trading and applying adult learning theory to self-education.
18:00 – Why financial literacy is rarely taught despite its life-long impact.
23:00 – Breaking down trading basics and removing unnecessary complexity.
28:00 – Psychology, emotion, and why ego derails good financial decisions.
33:00 – Risk, uncertainty, and learning to sit with discomfort.
38:00 – Podcasts, curiosity, and self-directed learning as modern education.
44:00 – Continuous learning as the foundation of entrepreneurship and leadership.
49:00 – Gamifying learning to build confidence and consistency over time.
54:00 – Building community through transparency and shared learning.
59:00 – Scaling education-driven businesses and teaching at scale.
64:00 – Identity shifts after acquisitions and redefining success.
69:00 – Leadership, disagreement, and creating psychologically safe teams.
74:00 – AI, critical thinking, and the future of learning.
79:00 – Personal growth, reinvention, and staying curious long-term.
84:00 – Reflections on learning, humility, and what truly creates confidence.
88:00 – Closing thoughts, gratitude, and setting up Part 2.
Key Takeaways:
- Financial literacy is rarely taught, yet deeply shapes life decisions.Learning accelerates when curiosity replaces fear of being “bad at math.”Real education often begins after formal schooling ends.Trading and business are driven as much by psychology as by data.Growth comes from pattern recognition, experimentation, and reflection.Entrepreneurship requires comfort with uncertainty and identity shifts.AI will amplify learning — but only if critical thinking is prioritized.Strong leaders create environments where disagreement is encouraged.Sustainable success comes from continuous learning and reinvention.
Resources Mentioned:
- ProcedureFlow – Enterprise knowledge management platform - https://procedureflow.com/CNBC – Financial markets media reference
Notable Quotes:
- “ There really isn't a lot of real financial literacy. We really don't talk about - what do you do with money?” - Sarah Jeanneault ”But what I don't want anyone to believe is that tomorrow you can make a million dollars in the S&P because that is not true. There's no lottery ticket to this journey.” - Sarah Jeanneault“ I think I'm most proud of doing quite well in finance … someone who really struggled in school with math.” - Sarah Jeanneault“Stocks go up, sideways, or down — that’s it.” - Sarah Jeanneault“If you think you're gonna go from education, whatever it is, university, high school, wherever you go, and then learning stops, like go start your own business and try not to learn.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“I would say that one of the key components to the most successful people that we've had on the show … the key component that they have threaded through there is they’re learners” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Sarah Jeanneault is the Vice President of Marketing at ProcedureFlow, where she’s helping redefine customer experience in the age of AI. With over 20 years of leadership across fintech, wealth management, and brokerage services, Sarah is an award-winning executive, speaker, and founder who brings both personal passion and professional expertise to the table.
In 2023, she was recognized as one of the Top 10 Women Leaders in Finance in the U.S. Known for her dynamic mix of strategic vision and human-centered leadership, Sarah believes lasting success comes from having a goal, a dream, and the determination to pursue it—along with a willingness to keep learning and growing.
Links
LinkedIn:https://ca.linkedin.com/in/iam-sarah-potter
Website: https://procedureflow.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Procedureflow
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/procedureflow
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 04 Feb 2026 - 1h 25min - 126 - 124: Commitment When It’s Not Fun with Robyn Benincasa
In Part 2 of this powerful conversation, Robyn Benincasa returns to go deeper on one of the most misunderstood elements of leadership: commitment when motivation fades. Drawing from decades of adventure racing, firefighting, and nonprofit leadership, Robyn explains why elite teams don’t wait to feel ready — they move forward anyway.
Together with Dwayne Kerrigan, Robyn unpacks the difference between confidence and ego, why standing still is often more dangerous than moving imperfectly, and how innovation only emerges when teams focus on how to win, not how to avoid losing. Through unforgettable stories involving Steve Gurney, creative rule-bending, and suffering with grace, she illustrates how forward momentum unlocks answers that planning alone never will.
The conversation culminates with a deep dive into Project Athena, the nonprofit Robyn founded to help survivors of medical and traumatic setbacks reclaim identity, confidence, and purpose through team-based endurance adventures. This episode is a masterclass in leadership under pressure, culture design, and why the ability to suffer well — together — is a competitive advantage in business and in life.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
00:00 – Robyn explains commitment through action, not emotion.
02:00 – Dwayne connects mentorship, influence, and leadership responsibility.
05:00 – Why being willing to be a beginner fuels innovation.
07:30 – Failure, repetition, and learning through action.
10:30 – Why preparation paralysis keeps people stuck.
13:30 – Emotions, discipline, and not letting feelings run your life.
16:00 – “Winning is that way” and the mindset shift that sparks innovation.
18:30 – Steve Gurney stories and thinking inside the rules vs. white space.
22:00 – Team selection, culture fit, and suffering equally.
26:00 – Ego vs. confidence and rotating leadership by strength.
30:00 – Why top-down leadership fails in complex environments.
34:00 – Relinquishing ego to avoid slowing the entire team down.
38:00 – Project Athena’s mission and creating comeback identities.
43:00 – How shared suffering builds lifelong trust and leadership.
48:00 – “Excellent suffering” and using adversity as an advantage.
52:00 – Robyn’s six hip surgeries and redefining resilience.
54:00 – Where to find Robyn, Project Athena, and closing reflections.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Commitment is demonstrated by action, not emotion. Feelings can inform decisions, but they should never rule them. Forward momentum creates clarity; standing still creates fear. Innovation comes from operating in the white space. Helping others is the healthiest outlet for ego. Identity is shaped by comeback stories, not setbacks.
NOTABLE QUOTES:
“ I show my commitment to my goals by what I do, regardless of how I feel.” - Robyn Benincasa
“ Commitment starts when the fun stops, right? I mean, you're not actually showing your commitment until shit's not fun anymore.” - Robyn Benincasa
“There’s a difference between confidence and ego” - Robyn Benincasa
“ Anybody can sail a ship in calm waters, but when the shit hits the fan, where are you? - Dwayne Kerrigan
RESOURCES MENTIONED:
- Project Athena – projectathena.org RobynBenincasa.com – leadership resources, blog, free TEAMWORK PDF TEAMWORK Framework (Robyn Benincasa) Steve Gurney – adventure racing innovation examples Adventure Racing World Championships Project Athena Adventures (San Diego Coast Walk, Grand Canyon Rim-to-Rim-to-Rim, Keys to Recovery, Zion Traverse)
As a two-time World Champion Adventure racer, San Diego Firefighter, and CNN Hero, Robyn Benincasa knows a thing or two about creating Human Synergy, or as she puts it, “That magic that allows ordinary people to accomplish extraordinary things together.” Through harrowing experiences in places like the jungles of Borneo and the Himalayan peaks, Robyn has studied the good, the bad, and the not-so-pretty of Extreme Teamwork. Her refreshing and unique techniques build and foster impactful, inspired teams that succeed against all odds and turn setbacks into comebacks.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynbenincasa/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RobynBenincasa
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RobynBenincasaSpeaker
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robynbenincasa/
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 28 Jan 2026 - 55min - 125 - 123: Teamwork, Purpose, and Leaving Ego at the Start Line with Robyn Benincasa
Dwayne Kerrigan sits down with world-class endurance athlete, firefighter, nonprofit founder, and keynote speaker Robyn Benincasa to unpack what truly separates great teams from the rest.
Drawing from decades of extreme adventure racing, Robyn shares how elite teams win not by being the most talented, but by being the most committed to each other. She introduces her powerful TEAMWORK framework, revealing why total commitment, empathy, adversity management, mutual respect, and relinquishing ego are the real competitive advantages—whether you’re racing through jungles or leading a modern organization.
Through unforgettable stories—including hallucinations after days without sleep, tying boats together to beat world champions, and redefining leadership mid-race—Robyn shows how purpose, preparation, creativity, and shared ownership create cultures that don’t just survive pressure… they win because of it.
This episode is a masterclass in leadership, resilience, and building teams that operate as one heart, one mind, especially when the stakes are high and the path forward is uncertain.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
00:00 – Robyn opens with the defining trait of elite teammates: leaving ego at the start line.
01:00 – Dwayne formally introduces Robyn and outlines her extraordinary background.
03:00 – Robyn shares discovering kayaking after hip surgery and focusing on what she could do.
06:30 – Why progress toward a meaningful goal is what makes humans feel alive.
10:30 – Competing to explore personal limits rather than seeking validation or approval.
14:00 – Why great teams care more about each other than themselves.
18:00 – How Robyn accidentally became a speaker after Fast Company’s “Extreme Teamwork”
21:30 – The importance of leaving ego behind and accepting help to win as a team.
25:30 – The “Steve Gurney Missile” story and choosing to race to win instead of not lose.
30:00 – Creativity, calculated risk, and living in your strengths under pressure.
34:30 – Relinquishing ego, rotating leadership, and leading based on strengths—not titles.
39:00 – Hallucinations, extreme fatigue, and supporting teammates through suffering.
42:00 – Kinetic leadership and adapting leadership styles to what the team needs.
45:30 – Purpose, coaching influence, and how early mentors shaped Robyn’s drive.
50:30 – Innovation, self-awareness, and evolving by leaning into strengths.
56:00– Finding a greater purpose in business.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- Winning teams prioritize commitment to each other, not individual performance. Progress toward a meaningful goal is what makes humans feel alive. Creativity and innovation emerge when teams operate from trust and purpose. Leadership should rotate based on strengths, not titles or tenure. Accepting help is not a weakness, it’s how teams move faster and farther. Great leaders show people how amazing they are, not how amazing the leader is.
NOTABLE QUOTES:
“ I feel weird when I don't have a goal. I get my juju, I get my energy from progress.” - Robyn Benincasa
“ I think humans really feel alive when they're progressing towards a goal.” - Robyn Benincasa
“Winning is that way.” - Robyn Benincasa
”You don't inspire people by showing them how amazing you are, you inspire people by showing them how amazing they are.” - Robyn Benincasa
“ In business, if you're not innovating, you're, you're dying.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
RESOURCES MENTIONED:
- Project Athena (founded by Robyn Benincasa) Fast Company Magazine – Extreme Teamwork feature Adventure Racing World Championships Guinness World Records (endurance paddling) TEAMWORK framework (Total Commitment, Empathy, Adversity Management, Mutual Respect, We-thinking, Ownership, Relinquishment of ego) Daniel Goleman – Emotional Intelligence (leadership styles reference)
As a two-time World Champion Adventure racer, San Diego Firefighter, and CNN Hero, Robyn Benincasa knows a thing or two about creating Human Synergy, or as she puts it, “That magic that allows ordinary people to accomplish extraordinary things together.” Through harrowing experiences in places like the jungles of Borneo and the Himalayan peaks, Robyn has studied the good, the bad, and the not-so-pretty of Extreme Teamwork. Her refreshing and unique techniques build and foster impactful, inspired teams that succeed against all odds and turn setbacks into comebacks.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynbenincasa/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RobynBenincasa
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RobynBenincasaSpeaker
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robynbenincasa/
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 21 Jan 2026 - 1h 00min - 124 - 122: Forgiving Yourself and Rebuilding After Failure with Michael Grandjean
In Part 2 of this conversation, Michael Grandjean shares the emotional and psychological turning point that allowed him to rebuild his life and career after profound loss. From a raw moment of self-forgiveness in the mountains of Morocco to the daily discipline of “kicking the can,” Michael walks through the mindset shifts, rituals, and relentless patience required to climb out of depression, debt, and despair.
Together with Dwayne Kerrigan, this episode explores the role of brotherhood, leverage, honest self-reflection, and creating a compelling new story when the old one no longer serves you. This is a masterclass in resilience, identity rebuilding, and what it truly takes to come back stronger — with wisdom, humility, and purpose.
Episode Highlights:
00:00 – Michael opens with the realization that self-forgiveness was required to move forward.
01:00 – Episode introduction and framing this as Part 2 of Michael’s comeback story.
02:00 – The Morocco mastermind trip and being forced to confront the truth.
05:00 – Emotional breakthrough on the mountain and the decision to rebuild.
07:30 – Creating the Three Ps: plan, persistence, and patience.
09:00 – “Kick the can” explained and committing to daily forward movement.
12:00 – Brotherhood, accountability, and why we’re not meant to do life alone.
16:00 – Letting go of guilt, disappointment, and the need for self-forgiveness.
20:00 – Depression, isolation, and breaking life down to “just get through today.”
24:00 – Writing the plan on a whiteboard and becoming resourceful again.
30:00 – Changing the internal story to create a compelling future.
36:00 – Writing goals again, paying off debt, and getting back to zero.
42:00 – Daily mantras, rituals, and retraining the mind.
48:00 – Shifting from hourly work to profit-based consulting and rebuilding cash flow.
01:01:00 – Final reflections, where to find Michael, and the podcast disclaimer.
Key Takeaways:
- Self-forgiveness is a prerequisite for real forward movement.Progress is built daily through patience, persistence, and simple actions.You cannot rebuild alone - community and accountability matter.Changing your internal story changes your future trajectory.Rituals, mantras, and physiology are tools for rewiring the mind.
Resources Mentioned:
- Checkmate: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1365025640684229 Tony Robbins – Date With DestinyMastermindPersonal goal-setting and written planning practicesDaily mantras and meditation ritualsWhiteboard strategic planning
Notable Quotes:
- “The past is the past. The past doesn't equal the future.” - Michael Grandjean“You have to change your story … If you’re living in a shitty story, you’re going to stay in a shitty story.” - Michael Grandjean ”When you're in the bottom you can't see the top. And that's the hardest part of trying to figure out how to get out of it.” - Michael Grandjean “We are not meant to walk through this world alone. Humanity is not meant to walk through this world alone.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“Luck is labour under correct knowledge” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Michael Grandjean is a serial entrepreneur whose journey from Navy corpsman to construction industry leader exemplifies the American spirit of perseverance and reinvention. His story isn't just about building businesses, it's about getting back up, learning from failure, and proving that resilience isn't just surviving the fall, but using it as a foundation for what comes next.
Links:
Website: itsmissioncritical.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/big.mikeg
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgrandjean
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 14 Jan 2026 - 1h 02min - 123 - 121: Collapse, Courage, and Comeback with Michael Grandjean
In this candid and powerful conversation, Michael Grandjean joins Dwayne Kerrigan to share the real story behind his rise, collapse, and rebuilding as an entrepreneur who led with heart—and paid a steep price for it.
From early service as a volunteer firefighter and Navy corpsman to building a $25M remediation company, Michael reflects on the leadership blind spots that quietly dismantled his business: avoiding confrontation, ignoring early warning signs, and letting emotion override structure and accountability.
He opens up about losing everything, the humility required to face hard truths, and the moment that changed his trajectory—the realization that even at checkmate, the king still has one more move. This episode is a raw masterclass in leadership self-awareness, responsibility, and what it truly takes to rebuild when everything falls apart.
Episode Highlights:
01:15 — Dwayne introduces Michael and some of his background
03:00 — Framing the conversation: collapse, comeback, and leadership through adversity
05:00 — Early life experiences that shaped Michael’s instinct to serve and protect others
08:00 — How learning-by-doing in the military built confidence, skill, and leadership
12:00 — The missed Naval Academy opportunity and how a single point changed his life path
16:00 — Discovering the root of his need to “fix everything” through early childhood memory
20:00 — How that identity became both a leadership strength and a business liability
24:00 — From couch-surfing to starting his first company with borrowed money
28:00 — Explosive growth: scaling from zero to $25M and building teams that drove success
35:00 — Hiring high-accountability leaders and why standards matter more than likability
42:00 — The beginning of complacency and losing focus after reaching the “top”
48:00 — Major projects fail, millions lost, and the cost of avoiding confrontation
55:00 — Hard truths: personal blind spots, delayed decisions, and leadership responsibility
01:05:00 — The emotional bottom, rebuilding identity, and the realization that “the king still has one more move”
01:20:00 — Final reflections on honesty, courage, accountability, and choosing to move forward
Key Takeaways:
- Leading with heart is powerful, but without boundaries it becomes expensive.Relationships, not brands, carry small and mid-sized businesses.SOPs, structure, and accountability protect leaders from their blind spots.Complacency quietly erodes even successful companies.Leaders must be honest with themselves before they can fix anything else.Even at your lowest point, you still have one more move.
Resources Mentioned:
- Checkmate: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1365025640684229 Tony Robbins – Date With DestinyAwaken the Giant Within (Tony Robbins)Mastermind
Notable Quotes:
- “The king still has one more move” - Michael Grandjean“When people show you who they are, believe it.” - Michael Grandjean“The thing that you said that probably is the most important is, absolutely positively being honest with yourself.” - Michael Grandjean“You don't have to be a $20 million business or a 50 or a hundred million dollars business to be successful. That's not the definition of success.” - Dwayne Kerrigan“There's not a single rich dude, I don't know, that wouldn't give all his money for having health.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Michael Grandjean is a serial entrepreneur whose journey from Navy corpsman to construction industry leader exemplifies the American spirit of perseverance and reinvention. His story isn't just about building businesses, it's about getting back up, learning from failure, and proving that resilience isn't just surviving the fall, but using it as a foundation for what comes next.
Links:
Website: itsmissioncritical.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/big.mikeg
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelgrandjean
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 07 Jan 2026 - 1h 24min - 122 - 120: Leadership Under Fire
Part Two of the Best Of 2025 series brings together some of the most impactful leadership, mindset, and business insights shared on The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast this year. This curated collection highlights defining moments from seasoned executives, founders, and operators who have navigated growth, failure, succession, identity shifts, and reinvention at every stage of their careers.
Across these clips, listeners hear honest reflections on making unpopular but necessary decisions, balancing intensity with elegance in leadership, evolving career horizons, and knowing when to step forward—or step aside. The episode explores entrepreneurial thinking inside both startups and large organizations, the power of conviction over persuasion, and why great leadership is rooted in process, accountability, and self-awareness rather than blame.
This Best Of episode also dives into legacy thinking: building multi-generational companies, transitioning leadership roles, redefining success beyond ego, and discovering fulfillment through contribution rather than achievement alone. From mindset and marketing to succession planning and service-driven purpose, Part Two captures the wisdom that emerges only through lived experience.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
00:34 - Introduction
2:53- France Margaret Bélanger
05:13 - Ron Tite
06:50 - Jason Castellan
09:54 - Karl Tabbakh
13:15 - Jeni Hott
16:26 - Swish Goswami
17:55 - Mark Bradley
19:36 - Jim Ritter
21:51 - Irfan Rajabali
24:43 - Rod Khleif
27:18 - Vaneli Martinov
31:50 - Scott Clary
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
*Conviction gives leaders the courage to act when approval is uncertain.
*Strong leaders balance intensity with elegance, standards with emotional control.
*Career growth should widen future opportunities, not narrow them.
*Identity and ego can quietly sabotage fulfillment if left unchecked.
*Sustainable success requires planning for succession long before it feels necessary.
*Authority and clarity outperform persuasion and desperation in marketing and leadership.
*Happiness comes from progress, contribution, and growth—not from hitting a single goal.
NOTABLE QUOTES:
“You should never achieve a big goal without having other goals lined up behind it” - Rod Khleif
“What gives you the courage to make those tough decisions … you have the conviction that it’s the right decision ultimately” - France Margaret Bélanger
“I see a problem, I think deeply about it, and I come up with a solution, and act on it” - Swish Goswami
“When I’m no longer being challenged as a leader, this is where I think ok, what should I be doing next?” - Karl Tabbakh
“I’ve got a solution that works and I know it’s here for them. That conviction comes through as leadership.” - Jeni Hott
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 31 Dec 2025 - 34min - 121 - 119: Mindset Shifts That Changed Everything
This Best Of episode of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast brings together some of the most powerful, human, and perspective-shifting moments from recent conversations—highlighting the inner work that fuels resilience, fulfillment, and sustainable success.
Across these standout clips, Dwayne and his guests explore the quiet transformations that happen beneath the surface: reframing everyday frustrations into gratitude, redefining identity after loss or transition, and understanding how meaning—not circumstances—shapes our experience of life and leadership.
Listeners will hear deeply personal reflections on illness, sobriety, scarcity and abundance, self-belief, and the courage required to evolve beyond old identities. From learning to “get from” experiences instead of merely getting through them, to recognizing that progress creates happiness and balance—not extremes—creates longevity, this episode weaves together the wisdom that resonates long after the moment passes.
This Best Of collection serves as both a reminder and a reset: fulfillment isn’t waiting at a destination. It’s found in the journey, in presence, perspective, and the daily choices that shape who we become.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
0:00:32 - Introduction
03:22 - Jessica Janzen
05:52 - Master Co
09:34 - Molly Bloom
12:02 - Tod Melnyk
15:10 - Emily Williams
16:56 - Mara Dorne
19:33 - Alvin Brown
22:55 - Jaime McKenna
25:52 - Rich Diviney
29:09 - John Karpov
31:16 - Alan Stein Jr.
34:04 - Heather Moyse
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
Perspective can transform frustration into gratitude.Identity drives behavior; what you place after “I am” shapes your choices.You are not your thoughts, emotions, or circumstances — you are the observer of them.Growth comes from introspection and learning from experiences, not just getting through them.Failure becomes lighter when reframed as information, not identity.Sustainable high performance requires balance, not extremes.The journey itself—not the destination—is where fulfillment lives.NOTABLE QUOTES:
“We find certainty in some of the smallest things, and that certainty is what gives us purpose.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“You’re not the emotion. It was created by you.” - Master Co
“If you don’t get from an experience, you’re bound to repeat it over and over again.” - Alvin Brown
“Let go of things and trust the process” - Emily Brown
“When you feel good on the inside, you look good on the outside, you perform better” - Mara Dorne
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 24 Dec 2025 - 38min - 120 - 118: Your Questions Answered: Leadership, Mindset & Decision-Making
In this special Q&A leadership session, Dwayne Kerrigan brings forward one of his most personal and powerful teachings yet—an unfiltered look at problem-solving, decision-making, emotional mastery, strategic planning, and the rituals that shape high-performance leaders.
Responding to 51 listener questions, Dwayne breaks down the “three pillars of progress,” the psychological layers of every problem, why decision-making is a muscle, and how fear, uncertainty, and overwhelm quietly sabotage performance.
He shares the exact rituals he has used for decades—from weekly solitude planning to identity-based scheduling—and the transformative practice he credits with changing his life: think time.
This episode is a masterclass in intentional living and high-performance leadership, blending mindset, structure, neuroscience, and real-world business wisdom. If you’re navigating fast-moving environments, leading teams, or trying to build a more purposeful life, this conversation gives you a proven roadmap forward.
Key Takeaways:
Decision-making is a muscle—if you don’t practice small decisions with process and ritual, big decisions will always overwhelm you.Your focus determines your emotional life—the meaning you attach to events shapes long-term joy or suffering.Rituals create identity and outcomes—weekly solitude planning, think time, and identity-based scheduling produce clarity and momentum.Strategic thinking requires cadence—yearly visioning, quarterly reviews, weekly planning, and daily recalibration.AI will disrupt faster than expected—leaders must systemize processes now to survive the shift.Self-love, vulnerability, and forgiveness are essential ingredients for emotional mastery and better decision-making.Quotes:
“Decision making is a muscle .. and it's a skill set. And often times where we struggle is this area of making the tough and difficult decisions.”
“What you ritualized in practice in private is rewarded in public.”
“The business side of things should be a game. I mean, it should be fun most of the time.”
"What is going to make you a happier and more joyful person, is attaching a different meaning to the events that happen in your life.”
Resources Mentioned:
Tony Robbins – “Three Pillars of Progress,” Date With Destiny program, life-planning philosophy
Stephen Covey – prioritization framework (A/B/C method)
Waking Up App (Sam Harris) – meditation and mindfulness
ChatGPT (Teams) – referenced as part of Dwayne’s business infrastructure
SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) – foundational to AI-based workflow agents
Identity-based scheduling – Dwayne’s personal system (Chairman, Husband, Father, Student, etc.)
Audio Timestamps:
00:00 – How meaning, not outcomes, determines happiness and fulfillment.
01:00 – Welcome, context for the live Q&A format, and session overview.
02:00 – Framing the biggest listener questions around decisions, problems, and leadership.
03:00 – The three pillars of progress and why focusing on problems makes them grow.
05:00 – The three levels of a problem: external, internal, and psychological.
07:00 – Why fear, uncertainty, and overwhelm stop people from making decisions.
09:00 – Decision-making as a muscle and the importance of rituals for small decisions.
12:00 – Managing overwhelm through physiology, breathing, and better questions.
16:00 – Focus, meaning, and how emotional patterns shape leadership behavior.
23:00 – Strategic thinking rituals: yearly visioning, quarterly reviews, and weekly planning.
30:00 – Identity-based scheduling and prioritizing what truly matters.
37:00 – Think time as a leadership superpower and how to train your mind.
43:00 – Accountability, scorecards, and building high-performance teams.
47:00 – Thriving in fast-moving environments through cadence, communication, and clarity.
53:00 – AI, SOPs, and preparing organizations for rapid technological change.
01:00:00 – Gamification, morning rituals, and energizing daily performance.
01:05:00 – Shifting from goal-setting to road mapping and intentional living.
01:08:00 – Awareness, vulnerability, self-love, and forgiveness as leadership foundations.
01:12:00 – Final reflections, gratitude, and invitation for feedback.
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 17 Dec 2025 - 1h 14min - 119 - 117: Innovate or Become Invisible: Scott Clary on the Content Shift Reshaping Business
In Part Two of this high-impact conversation, Dwayne continues his deep dive with global business strategist and Success Story Podcast host Scott Clary, who breaks down exactly why attention is the foundational currency of modern business — and why companies that fail to adapt will be overtaken by those who move quickly with media, content, and AI.
Scott unpacks the psychology of why leaders resist content, the identity fear behind “not wanting to suck,” and how legacy businesses risk losing everything because they’re still marketing for 2005 while technology is sprinting into 2025.
Dwayne and Scott explore real-world examples—from lawn-care companies to B2B manufacturers to billion-dollar firms—and show how even the most “unsexy” industries can dominate simply by capturing attention and building trust at scale.
The conversation expands into AI disruption, the collapse of traditional SEO, the rise of generative search, modern buyer behavior, shortening sales cycles through content, and the undeniable compounding power of personal brand.
This episode is a wake-up call to business owners everywhere: adapt now, or be replaced by those who do.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 – Media equals attention and attention drives every business outcome.
02:00 – The real starting point for content: sucking at first and learning through repetition.
04:30 – Scott unpacks why universal business principles apply to content creation.
06:00 – Identity, fear, and why business owners avoid content creation.
07:00 – The widening gap between tech adopters and those still resisting digital change.
09:00 – Legacy vs. legitimacy: content won’t damage your reputation, but irrelevance will.
11:00 – Content isn't just video - newsletters, audio, and niche education all count.
13:00 – Niche creators winning with “unsexy” businesses.
17:00 – Example content strategies.
20:00 – Why Scott studies fast-growing creators - not the biggest creators.
23:00 – The explosive business outcomes possible when you master content (“not a 1x or 2x”).
27:00 – Why even billion-dollar CEOs must build trust through media.
33:00 – How content accelerates B2B sales cycles and increases closing ratios.
37:00 – Generative search is replacing Google.
43:00 – Scott breaks down the KPI stack: retention, shares, watch time, and qualified leads.
48:00 – Essential tools: ChatGPT, Claude, Opus Pro, CapCut, etc., and what they’re best for.
50:00 – Hiring global talent.
56:00 – The coming AI household-assistant revolution.
01:02:00 – SEO collapse and the rise of creator-driven education and media networks.
01:08:00 – Entrepreneurs have already done hard things - this is simply the next one.
01:10:00 – Passion is the outcome of mastery, not the prerequisite.
01:11:00 – How older leaders can partner with younger digital natives.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Attention is the gateway to trust, and trust drives every buying decision.Content doesn’t mean dancing online; it means choosing a medium you can stick with.AI and generative search are rewriting SEO overnight.Content massively increases sales velocity and close rates.Small businesses have the most to gain from adopting a media strategy.Entrepreneurship is staying alive long enough for your strategy to work.QUOTES:
"Media is attention. From the beginning of time, attention and influence is what drives people to make decisions." - Scott Clary
" Entrepreneurship is a game of staying alive as long as possible until it works." - Scott Clary
" I've always found that like you, you become passionate through mastery, through success, through figuring things out." - Scott Clary
" People tie their identity to their business and if they try to go and do content and it sucks, it's a reflection that they suck and they don't want to put themselves out there." - Dwayne Kerrigan
" I believe that people shift through the power of story. I think it's the greatest way for us to learn because it allows us to put ourselves into other people's shoes." - Dwayne Kerrigan
RESOURCES MENTIONED
ChatGPT (OpenAI) – ideation, scripting, research assistance.Claude (Anthropic) – content development and refinement.Opus Pro – turns long-form video into short-form clips.CapCut – simple editing tool for social video.Substack – newsletters and niche written content.Beehiiv – newsletter growth platform.Upwork – for finding global editors and creators (Scott’s preferred starting point).HubSpot – case study for shifting from SEO to media networks.Gary Vaynerchuk / VaynerMedia – example of media-first business building.Alex Hormozi – example of massive content-driven product launches.Scott Clary is a dynamic entrepreneur, investor, and author. He hosts the Success Story podcast, where he has candid conversations with some of the most prolific business & thought leaders in the world.
Links:
Website: https://www.scottdclary.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/scottdclary Podcast: https://www.successstorypodcast.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scottdclarypage/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottdclary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottdclaryConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 10 Dec 2025 - 1h 13min - 118 - 116: Attention Over Time Builds Trust: Scott Clary's Playbook for Modern Entrepreneurship
In this conversation, Dwayne sits down with entrepreneur and creator Scott Clary, host of the Success Story Podcast with 30M+ downloads. Scott opens up about his unlikely path from a government-family upbringing to becoming a media-first entrepreneur, the early exposure that ignited his drive, and why curiosity and tenacity can outperform almost anything.
Scott walks through how small companies create the best “entrepreneurial classrooms,” why every creator should think like a founder, and how success hinges on defining your personal North Star before you start sprinting. The episode dives deep into AI disruption, content strategy, internal vs. external locus of control, personal branding, and how businesses of every size can prepare for the next wave of transformation.
Scott offers tactical clarity on building a media-first business, testing content efficiently, disrupting yourself before the market does, and why attention—sustained over time—is the most valuable commercial asset any entrepreneur can build.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
03:53 - Scott's telecom background
08:22 - How working at a small company provides exposure to all aspects of business
14:27 - The importance of curiosity as a foundational entrepreneurial skill
17:25 - Warning: Be careful what you pursue - success requires understanding your true goals
23:25 - Finding your North Star: Be rigid in goals but flexible in execution
28:10 - Identifying what energizes you through trial and error
32:33 - Building a business while working full-time: The side hustle strategy
38:15 - How AI is disrupting businesses and the need for constant self-disruption
43:15 - The four types of leverage: Capital, technology, people, and media
51:00 - The power of AI to make individuals 10-100x more productive
01:06:30 - Internal vs external locus of control and taking ownership
01:13:30 - Content creation strategy: Testing ideas at scale on forgiving platforms
01:27:26 - How media and AI are already transforming traditional industries like restaurants
KEY TAKEAWAYS
- Define your North Star before you start running
Many people pursue success without clarity on what they actually want — a lifestyle business, a scalable company, privacy, or fame. If you have tenacity and skill, you’ll eventually succeed… so make sure you're climbing the right mountain.
- Curiosity is the foundation of career acceleration
Scott attributes almost everything in his career to relentless curiosity — the willingness to ask questions, learn widely, and self-educate.
- AI won’t replace people but people who use AI will replace people who don’t
The companies thriving in this era are disrupting themselves before someone else does. Every role can be up-leveled 10x–100x with the right tools and mindset.
- Media is the ultimate leverage
Capital, technology, people… and media. If you don’t build a personal or company brand, someone in your industry eventually will — and they will take market share.
- Content is business R&D
Social content is the best testing ground for messaging. Use it to refine your voice, validate ideas, influence sales scripts, and improve marketing before spending ad dollars.
- Attention over time creates trust
The companies, creators, and leaders who show up consistently earn trust — which compounds into opportunity.
- Internal locus of control is a superpower
Entrepreneurs who take ownership — good or bad — create their own luck and navigate volatility more effectively.
QUOTES
From Scott Clary:
“If you have the right skill set and you have the right tenacity, whatever you go after, you will find a way to become successful at that thing.” “Be rigid in where you want to end up, but very flexible in how you get there.” “Attention over time builds trust.” “The best employees are entrepreneurs, just in a different season of their life.” “If you don’t disrupt yourself, someone else will come along and take your lunch.”From Dwayne Kerrigan:
“Every bad idea I’ve ever had started with a good idea at the time.” “Be careful what you wish for because you might actually get it.” “Pros get paid to practice.”Scott Clary is a dynamic entrepreneur, investor, and author. He hosts the Success Story podcast, where he has candid conversations with some of the most prolific business & thought leaders in the world.
Links:
Website: https://www.scottdclary.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/scottdclary Podcast: https://www.successstorypodcast.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scottdclarypage/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottdclary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottdclaryConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 03 Dec 2025 - 1h 25min - 117 - 115: Elegant Strength: The Executive Mindset Behind France Margaret Bélanger’s Success
In Part 2 of this conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan and France Margaret Bélanger, President of Sports & Entertainment for the Montreal Canadiens, go deep into the personal side of leadership, discussing courage, conviction, and composure.
France Margaret shares how calm strength and self-awareness guide her through high-stakes decisions, what she’s learned about emotional control in negotiation, and why courage means making the right choice even when it’s unpopular. Together, she and Dwayne explore what it truly means to lead with heart, to face criticism with elegance, and to never let labels define who you are.
Whether you’re leading a team, a business, or your own personal evolution, authenticity, self-mastery, and grace under pressure are key.
Episode Highlights
00:00 – Making the right decision even when it’s unpopular.
03:00 – Balancing intensity with standards.
05:00 – Lessons from France’s father.
07:00 – The power of calm, and why letting anger take over gives control to others.
09:00 – France on staying poised as a woman in leadership without labeling herself.
11:00 – When to walk away from conflict and preserve professionalism.
12:00 – The balance between courage, compassion, and tolerance for “the gray.”
15:00 – Political parallels, and why real leadership requires vision and unity.
17:00 – Inside the Canadiens rebuild.
25:00 – Leadership lessons from rebuilding a legacy brand under scrutiny.
33:00 – How Jeff Molson’s bold decisions shaped new success.
41:00 – France recounts how she stepped into leadership unexpectedly.
47:00 – Dwayne connects France’s story to business owners everywhere.
49:00 – Navigating gender in business.
57:00 – “No excuses.” Dwayne and France on identity, congruence, and living your values.
01:05:00 – Closing reflections on family, legacy, and leading with heart.
Notable Quotes
"The minute that you, France, is getting mad or angry or whatever, you lost. Might as well give up right now because this other person that managed to get you in that position, won." - France Margaret Bélanger
" Hopefully we do things elegantly, right. Firmly, with determination, but elegantly." - France Margaret Bélanger
"You show up as who you are, and that's what people will know about you, and that's what people will talk about you. You gotta be authentic and honest to who you are" - France Margaret Bélanger
" It's the ultimate control. If somebody can influence your emotion into, especially into anger, you're done. They are now in control of you." - Dwayne Kerrigan
“The most powerful force in the human psyche is to remain congruent with how you identify yourself.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Key Takeaways
- Control Your Emotions: The moment you react in anger, you lose your influence.Elegance Wins: Deliver hard messages with composure and respect.Authenticity Over Labels: Show up as yourself; skill and preparation speak louder than gender.Rebuilding Takes Vision and Grit:True progress comes from honest assessment and bold change.Stay Grounded in Values: Your identity and integrity are your anchors under pressure.
Resources Mentioned
The Rebuild – Behind-the-scenes documentary series on the Montreal CanadiensJeff Molson, Jeff Gorton, Kent Hughes, and Martin St. Louis – leadership and culture case studyNHL Board of Governors and Executive Inclusion CouncilFrance Margaret Bélanger is President, Sports and Entertainment at Groupe CH since 2020, which includes the Montreal Canadiens, the Laval Rocket, evenko and L’Équipe Spectra. She joined the organization in 2013 as Senior Vice-President and Chief Legal Officer, and has held several executive positions over the years.France Margaret is the first woman to sit on the Executive Committee of the Montreal Canadiens in the club’s 104-year history and also the first woman to lead the organization.
Links:
Website: https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/team/france-margaret-belanger LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/france-margaret-belanger-833b6b41Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/canadiensmtl Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/canadiensmtl/?hl=fr Spectra: https://www.instagram.com/spectramusique/?hl=frEvenko: https://www.instagram.com/evenko/?hl=frConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 26 Nov 2025 - 57min - 116 - 114: Resilience, Leadership, and the Power of Getting It Done with France Margaret Bélanger
In this episode of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, France Margaret Bélanger, President of Sports and Entertainment for the Montreal Canadiens, shares her extraordinary journey from corporate law to leading one of Canada’s most iconic sports and entertainment organizations.
France shares how she transitioned from a partner at Stikeman Elliott to the front office of the Canadiens, what she’s learned about negotiation, culture, and leadership, and how she balances motherhood, resilience, and professional excellence in a high-pressure industry. France’s stories of her family, her team, and her leadership philosophy will resonate deeply with anyone striving to lead with both courage and compassion.
Key Takeaways
1. Preparation Creates Confidence. Knowing your material and your mission lets you show up calm, credible, and composed.
2. Listening Wins Negotiations. Speak less, observe more. Real insight comes from awareness, not control.
3. Surround Yourself with Excellence. Great leaders aren’t afraid to hire people smarter than themselves.
4. Culture Is the Standard You Set. When “getting it done” becomes cultural DNA, excellence follows naturally.
5. Grace and Grit Can Co-Exist. Authentic leadership balances empathy with accountability.
Quotes
“If you talk all the time, you don’t have time to listen.” - France Margaret Bélanger
“I prefer a mistake to an excuse. A mistake is a mistake.” - France Margaret Bélanger
“Know your outcome, stack experience, and surround yourself with the best.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“Fear shows up as easy. Nobody likes the label fear, but that’s what it is. And fear shows up as an excuse.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
France Margaret Bélanger is President, Sports and Entertainment at Groupe CH since 2020, which includes the Montreal Canadiens, the Laval Rocket, evenko and L’Équipe Spectra. She joined the organization in 2013 as Senior Vice-President and Chief Legal Officer, and has held several executive positions over the years.France Margaret is the first woman to sit on the Executive Committee of the Montreal Canadiens in the club’s 104-year history and also the first woman to lead the organization.
Links:
Website: https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/team/france-margaret-belanger LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/france-margaret-belanger-833b6b41Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/canadiensmtl Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/canadiensmtl/?hl=fr Spectra: https://www.instagram.com/spectramusique/?hl=frEvenko: https://www.instagram.com/evenko/?hl=frConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 19 Nov 2025 - 1h 15min - 115 - 113: The Future of Brand Storytelling: Ron Tite on Aligning What You Think, Do, and Say
In Part 2 of his conversation with Dwayne Kerrigan, creative powerhouse Ron Tite dives deep into the execution side of belief-driven business. Ron breaks down how great companies find alignment with what they think, do, and say - and why most fail when they overthink, overreact, or chase the next shiny thing.
This episode explores how to balance creativity with discipline, lead with integrity, and build brands that truly earn trust. Ron’s frameworks and real-world examples (from Dell to Wealthsimple) will reshape how you think about growth, culture, and storytelling in your own business and career.
Highlights:
00:00 – Your brand isn’t just a color palette
04:15 – Balancing structure with innovation
10:40 – Aligning through recruiting, training, and compensation
13:15 – The short-term trap of chasing sales and ignoring foundations
16:00 – Ron shares a personal story that reframes purpose and perspective
22:00 – Breaking down what makes a great brand
28:15 – The Dell origin story and how storytelling drives strategy and culture
32:40 – Applying the Think. Do. Say. formula to everyday decision making
35:00 – Identifying and removing your own barriers through honest self-reflection
Key Takeaways:
- Your Brand Isn’t Just An Aesthetic - True brands align their belief, behavior, and communication - not just colors and logos.Balance Creativity with Consistency - You need both the “concept car” for innovation and the “assembly line” for profit.Culture Must Reflect Belief - If you believe in collaboration or honesty, it has to exist inside your organization too.Tell Future Stories - Vision isn’t a statement, it’s a story of where you’re going and how you’ll get there.Face the Hard Truths - Leaders must ask the obvious questions and own their barriers to growth.
Quotes:
“ A great brand has a core purpose, a fundamental belief that's behind it.” - Ron Tite
“ If you're all concept car, and all ideas, and all innovation, you go bankrupt. If you're all execution, you're all assembly line, you become irrelevant.” - Ron Tite
“Advertising is really just a tax on people who don’t have a great product.” - Ron Tite
“I’ve seen so many business owners torpedo their business because they wanted something new and flashier.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Resources Mentioned:
Everyone’s An Artist - Or At Least They Should Be - by Ron TiteThink Do Say - by Ron TiteThe Purpose of Purpose - by Ron TiteCase Studies: Wealthsimple, Dell Computers, Church+State AgencyRon Tite is an entrepreneur, speaker, and best-selling author. He has been a creative director for some of the world’s most respected brands including Air France, DoorDash, Evian, Google, Intel, Microsoft, and Volvo. He’s the founder and chief strategy officer of Church+State, co-founder of advertising holding company Group 219, and an investor/ advisor to Wavy, the culture OS for distributed teams. He’s the best-selling author of 3 books: Everyone’s An Artist - Or At Least They Should Be (HarperCollins, 2016), Think Do Say (Page Two, 2019), and The Purpose of Purpose (Page Two, 2025).
Links:
Website: https://rontite.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574805686652
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rontite
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rontite
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rontite/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rontite
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 12 Nov 2025 - 37min - 114 - 112. The Real Reason Belief Drives Profit with Ron Tite
On this episode of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, Dwayne is joined by Ron Tite - award-winning creative director, author, comedian, and founder of Church+State - for a conversation that unpacks the real meaning of purpose in business.
Ron has spent decades helping global brands like Google, Walmart, and Microsoft align what they believe with how they grow. In this candid conversation, he explains why most companies get their purpose wrong, how to articulate what truly drives your business, and why belief - not branding - is the foundation of sustainable success.
Ron shares tangible frameworks straight from his latest book, The Purpose of Purpose, and shows how every entrepreneur can stop chasing trends and start building a company rooted in integrity, clarity, and long-term impact.
Highlights:
00:00 –Three-line purpose formula
01:00 – Introduction
03:15 – On balancing creativity and business
06:10 – Lessons from Best Buy’s leadership
08:40 – What business’ can learn from artists
10:15 – Sacrificing ideals leads to a loss of integrity
15:00 – Belief helps drive what you sell and how you grow
19:00 – The five modern business constituents
27:00 – Ron expands on his three-line formula
29:00 – The Savannah Bananas example: reinventing baseball by redefining the rules
35:30 – Vision is good, purpose is better
Key Takeaways:
- Purpose Is Practical, Not Promotional - It’s not about charity statements, it’s about aligning belief with how you make money.Focus on the Ecosystem - Shareholders, customers, employees, suppliers, and communities all define modern success.Stop Copying Competitors - Innovation begins when you stop painting “pink” just because everyone else does.Belief Drives Growth - Purpose clarifies where your next product, hire, and customer come from.Integrity Over Imitation - The moment you sacrifice your ideals for sales, you lose both.
Quotes:
“Purpose is a fundamental belief that drives what you sell and how you grow.” - Ron Tite
“A belief and a purpose is strategically linked to where you make your money.” - Ron Tite
“The second I sacrifice my ideals and my pursuit of what I think is true, to match up with your desire and what you want to buy, I have lost all my integrity and I have no more business.” - Ron Tite
“Business people can get in their head, and there’s that saying - once you’re in your head, you’re dead.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
Resources Mentioned:
Everyone’s An Artist - Or At Least They Should Be - by Ron TiteThink Do Say - by Ron TiteThe Purpose of Purpose - by Ron TiteSavannah Bananas (Jesse Cole) case studyRon Tite is an entrepreneur, speaker, and best-selling author. He has been a creative director for some of the world’s most respected brands including Air France, DoorDash, Evian, Google, Intel, Microsoft, and Volvo. He’s the founder and chief strategy officer of Church+State, co-founder of advertising holding company Group 219, and an investor/ advisor to Wavy, the culture OS for distributed teams. He’s the best-selling author of 3 books: Everyone’s An Artist - Or At Least They Should Be (HarperCollins, 2016), Think Do Say (Page Two, 2019), and The Purpose of Purpose (Page Two, 2025).
Links:
Website: https://rontite.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574805686652
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rontite
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rontite
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rontite/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rontite
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 05 Nov 2025 - 41min - 113 - 111. Grace, Grit, and Growth with Mara Dorne
In Part 2 of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast with Mara Dorne, the conversation goes beyond business and into the mindset that helped create her success.
Mara opens up about living with anxiety, navigating “mom guilt”, and the personal sacrifices involved in becoming successful. Authenticity has been a major key for Mara, who has learned over time what it takes to thrive without losing yourself. Her transparency and humor will inspire you to embrace your truth and imperfections, and lead with both power and compassion.
Episode Highlights
00:00 – “Progress brings happiness.”
01:15 – “Look good, feel good, do good.” How inner confidence fuels outer success.
05:30 – Energy equals productivity — lessons from Tony Robbins on physiology and focus.
09:30 – The truth about mom guilt, mom shaming, and giving yourself grace.
17:00 – Setting boundaries and choosing family over constant business travel.
21:30 – “People like you when you’re authentic.” Leadership lessons from letting go of ego.
31:15 – Owning her anxiety — how Mara turned fear into focus and vulnerability into power.
43:00 – “Pain is inevitable, but suffering is optional.” Choosing resilience and self-love.
49:30 – “You’re not going to be everybody’s cup of tea — and that’s okay.”
Key Takeaways:
- Progress Creates Purpose Growth — even small — fuels happiness. Stagnation fuels frustration.Grace Over GuiltWorking moms and entrepreneurs alike must stop striving for perfection. Give yourself permission to be human.Anxiety Can Be PowerInstead of resisting fear, Mara reframes it as heightened awareness — a tool for empathy and performance.Authenticity Wins Success feels better when you stop performing for approval and start living in alignment.Feminine Energy Is Strength Nurturing, empathy, intuition — these aren’t weaknesses. They’re leadership advantages.Boundaries Build Balance Saying “no” with intention creates space for what truly matters — family, health, and peace of mind.
Notable Quotes:
“There is absolute guilt. I’m the mom at the football meet in heels, on the phone, juggling everything. But at some point, you’ve got to give yourself grace.” Mara Dorne
“You’re not going to be everybody’s cup of tea — and that’s okay. Peel back the layer and be who you want to be.” Mara Dorne
“Being a woman is a superpower. It really is a superpower, especially in sales, because men like to talk to women and women like to talk to women.” Mara Dorne
“We’re all going to experience pain. But what you don’t have to experience is suffering. You don’t have to suffer.” Dwayne Kerrigan
Mara is a self-made millionaire, best-selling author, public speaker, and award winning BILF ('Boss I'd Like to Follow') who built a remarkable career in a male-dominated industry. As a top leader at a Fortune 500 subsidiary, she made history by exceeding $1 billion in sales before turning 40. Beyond her corporate achievements, Mara is passionate about mentoring and has guided over 1,500 health insurance agents nationwide, with a particular focus on empowering female entrepreneurs.
Links:
Website: https://maradorne.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheDorneRegion
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mara.dorne
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maradorne/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maradorne/
BILF Podcast: https://maradorne.com/bilf-podcast/
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 29 Oct 2025 - 54min - 112 - 110. From Broke to a Billion: Building a Sales Empire with Mara Dorne
Mara Dorne, self-made millionaire and top leader at a Fortune 500 subsidiary, joins The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast this week to share her insights and wisdom in all things business. Mara has built a remarkable career in a male-dominated industry. She made history when she exceeded $1 billion in sales before turning 40, so she knows a thing or two about the formula for success.
In Part One of their discussion, Mara opens up to Dwayne about her resilience, rebuilding from scratch, and how finding her WHY changed everything. They unpack everything from the changing sales landscape in a post-COVID world, to the non-negotiables of leadership, recruiting, and mindset.
If you agree that business, and life, should be about pursuing purpose and passion, not paycheques, this episode is for you!
Highlights:
00:00 – Mara opens with her mantra: “A.B.C. – Always Be Closing.”
02:10 – From broke to a billion: Mara’s journey to leading 1,500 agents.
05:45 – Why remote work kills culture — and why energy drives sales.
10:15 – Insights from Tony Robbins and Patrick Bet-David on adapting to change.
12:10 – “Work-life balance is a theory — it doesn’t exist for go-getters.”
16:30 – Always be recruiting: how to build growth through referrals and social media.
21:15 – Bob Proctor’s influence and the role of personal development in leadership.
33:00 – “Scared money don’t make money” — how to invest wisely during downturns.
42:45 – The moment everything changed: from broke to $92K in six months.
56:30 – “When you look good, you feel good. When you feel good, you do good.”
Key Takeaways
- Recruit Your Way Out of a Slump -Growth solves almost every sales problem. When in doubt, fill your pipeline with new energy and new people.Structure Equals Success -Freedom without accountability is failure. Even independent agents need rules, rhythm, and standards.Invest in Your Business—Smartly“Scared money don’t make money,” but blind spending isn’t strategy. Inspect every process before you invest.Confidence Is Built, Not Born Confidence grows through preparation, discipline, and mastering your craft—especially when no one’s watching.Culture Is the Competitive EdgeIn-office synergy, shared goals, and consistent communication drive long-term retention and results.Own Your Mistakes, Lead from the FrontThe fastest way to rebuild momentum is to get back in the trenches and show your team what leadership looks like.
Mara is a self-made millionaire, best-selling author, public speaker, and award winning BILF ('Boss I'd Like to Follow') who built a remarkable career in a male-dominated industry. As a top leader at a Fortune 500 subsidiary, she made history by exceeding $1 billion in sales before turning 40. Beyond her corporate achievements, Mara is passionate about mentoring and has guided over 1,500 health insurance agents nationwide, with a particular focus on empowering female entrepreneurs.
Links:
Website: https://maradorne.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheDorneRegion
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mara.dorne
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maradorne/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maradorne/
BILF Podcast: https://maradorne.com/bilf-podcast/
Quotes:
“ABC, always be closing. It’s a constant conversation. I’m telling everybody that I know in my life works in this, even my ex-husband and my husband—it’s crazy. And why wouldn’t you want to offer that to somebody if you’re doing well with it and you know that there is uncapped income potential, unlimited growth, you can be your own boss, you’re in business for yourself, not by yourself.” Mara Dorne
“Scared money don’t make money. I learned that very early on.” Mara Dorne
“Inspect what you expect. And if you don’t do that—because sometimes you think they got it—they don’t got it.” Mara Dorne
“It’s an unbelievable story of necessity. When things are that desperate—and you know, necessity is the mother of all skill, as they say—you just have to find a way.” Dwayne Kerrigan
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 22 Oct 2025 - 1h 00min - 111 - 109. Building Beyond Survival: How John Karpov Turned Scarcity into Scalable Success
In Part 2 of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast with John Karpov, founder and CEO of Action Home Services, Dwayne and John go even deeper into the mindset and systems behind Action Home Services(AHS), a leading landscaping and exterior construction company serving Toronto and the Greater Toronto Area.
From almost losing his residency to scaling an $8M business while facing deportation, John shares how he built structure, leadership, and culture around his immigrant grit. He opens up about redefining fulfillment, transitioning from survival mode to leadership, and how relentless personal growth became the cornerstone of his company’s 50% year-over-year growth.
John reveals his leadership playbook — from reading 2 books a month to building over 1,000 SOPs and investing $1.5Min professional development for his team — and how staying humble, hungry, and human is what keeps him grounded through every phase of growth.
If Part 1 was about survival, this episode is about scaling — with purpose, structure, and soul.
Listen to Part 1 HERE
Watch Part 1 HERE
Timestamps
[00:00:00] — Dwayne opens with: “You can only run a business so long by running the fastest.”
[00:01:00] — John’s incredible story of his wife’s visa approval and their shared “never give up” destiny.
[00:05:00] — The immigration battle: how they nearly lost everything waiting for permanent residency.
[00:07:30] — The miracle timing that let them stay in Canada and the lessons learned living on the edge.
[00:10:00] — Reinvesting every dollar into the business while facing uncertainty.
[00:13:00] — Scaling to $10M+ before age 25 — and not feeling like it’s an accomplishment.
[00:17:00] — Dwayne and John explore scarcity versus hunger — and how the immigrant mindset fuels drive.
[00:19:00] — John on never feeling “done” and why fulfillment comes from helping others succeed.
[00:22:30] — The breakthrough realization: happiness is in the journey, not the destination.
[00:26:00] — Daily fulfillment rituals: reading, training, and prioritizing sleep.
[00:29:00] — Building structure and delegation into the company’s DNA — leadership by design.
[00:31:00] — Creating organizational charts, head of departments, and scaling through people.
[00:35:30] — Learning to lead through education: 100+ conferences and a book club culture.
[00:38:00] — Investing $1.5M in personal and professional development and $40K in books.
[00:41:00] — Company reading list and rewards program: from “Unreasonable Hospitality” to “Good to Great.”
[00:45:00] — John’s transparent leadership: open-book finances, KPI education, and growth accountability.
[00:49:00] — Over 1,000 SOPs: how structure scales culture.
[00:53:00] — Turning every mistake into a process and every error into a lesson.
[00:56:00] — The ROI of structure: new managers finally saying, “I love that it’s organized.”
[00:58:00] — Why immigrants often make exceptional employees — grit meets gratitude.
[01:00:30] — Dwayne’s reflection on the power of sacrifice and the immigrant spirit.
[01:02:00] — John’s final advice: “If you need my help with your business, I’ll be there for you.”
Key Takeaways
Fulfillment is built, not found. True happiness comes from impact and presence, not milestones.Structure creates freedom. You can’t scale chaos — systems and SOPs build sustainability.Growth requires humility. John and his team read, learn, and attend conferences relentlessly.Teach what you learn. John trains his team to think like business owners — not just employees.Leadership is service. Real fulfillment comes from helping others grow beyond their limits.Resources Mentioned
Books:
Unreasonable Hospitality by Will GuidaraHow to Win with Accountability by Mike EvansGood to Great by Jim CollinsThe Mountain Is You by Brianna WiestThe Great Game of Business by Jack StackReferenced Concepts:
The E-Myth Revisited by Michael Gerber (on entrepreneurial seizure)Kaizen Methodology — continuous improvementOpen-Book Management — teaching employees to understand financialsQuotes:
“You can only run a business for so long by running it through the mechanism of running the fastest. That usually ends up being the small entrepreneur way, and then you can't grow beyond that.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“I think sometimes the worst thing that we could rely on is this need for certainty where everything fits in a box and everything is going to be great, and we have this absolute certainty and that just doesn't exist in life.” - Dwayne Kerrigan
“The amount of change and breakthroughs I go through every year is remarkable. My mindset shifts every single year.” — John Karpov
“Fulfillment comes from impacting other people’s lives. When my team buys homes and grows, that’s when I feel truly successful.” — John Karpov
“The real destination is the journey. Happiness isn’t five years from now — it’s today.” — John Karpov
“Every mistake creates an SOP. Every error becomes a lesson. That’s how we grow.” — John Karpov
Links:
Website: actionhomeservices.caFacebook: facebook.com/ActionHomeServicesTorontoInstagram: instagram.com/actionhomeservicesLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/action-home-services-gtaConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 15 Oct 2025 - 1h 03min - 110 - 108. From Rock Bottom to a $20 Million Business: The Relentless Journey of John Karpov
At just 17 years old, John Karpov immigrated alone from Kazakhstan to Canada, barely speaking English and with no safety net. When a scam wiped out his savings and left him contemplating suicide, one phone call saved his life, and set off a chain of events that would redefine what grit and perseverance look like.
In this powerful conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan sits down with John to unpack how he went from a desperate student to the founder of Action Home Services, a multimillion-dollar landscape construction company. John shares how he learned English, mastered sales by necessity, and built a thriving business one door knock at a time.
This is a masterclass in resilience, risk, and the immigrant mindset that fuels unstoppable entrepreneurs.
Timestamps
00:00 - John reflects on fear, scarcity, and the pain that still drives him 11 years later.
01:00 - Dwayne introduces John Karpov, founder of Action Home Services.
03:00 - John’s early life in Kazakhstan and decision to immigrate to Canada at 17.
05:00 - Struggling to understand North American English and adapting to culture shock.
06:00 - Losing his financial support — and falling victim to a fraud that wiped out his savings.
08:00 - A near-suicidal moment and the phone call that changed everything.
10:00 - Finding a commission-only job selling driveway sealing — and having no clue what it was.
15:00 - Knocking doors for 8 hours with no sales — until a breakthrough changes everything.
17:30 - A confrontation, courage, and earning $400 in a day — more than a month’s pay back home.
19:00 - What kept him from giving up — the mindset shift from failure to relentless drive.
23:00 - Outworking everyone and learning the power of necessity.
25:00 - Starting his first business with no money, no truck, no driver’s license — and no experience.
31:00 - Working 60 hours a week while in college — the early years of survival.
34:00 - Transition from driveway sealing to landscaping and scaling beyond himself.
38:00 - Dwayne and John break down the principles of sales: activity, energy, and hunger.
41:30 - The scarcity mindset that still lingers — and how fear drives discipline.
47:00 - Risk, safety, and how to protect a growing business through systems and liquidity.
53:00 - Building systems, crews, and leadership while finishing college.
1:03:00 - Growing past chaos: when your living-room floor becomes your job-scheduling system.
1:07:00 - Bringing his wife into the business — and the promise to be home by 5 p.m.
1:13:00 - Her immigration story — and how persistence beat three rejections.
1:14:00 - Dwayne’s closing reflections: from scarcity to abundance — and what’s coming in Part 2.
Key Takeaways
- Necessity builds resilience. When failure isn’t an option, resourcefulness becomes instinct.Work ethic beats experience. John outworked everyone — before he even knew what he was selling.Systems are survival. Growth without process leads to chaos (and lost contracts under the carpet).Scarcity can ignite hunger — but abundance sustains growth. Learning when to move from survival mode to strategy is essential.Leadership evolves. From door-to-door hustler to CEO, John learned that empowering others fuels exponential scale.
Quotes:
“The moment I start knocking those doors, the flame inside of me started, and I just knew I cannot give up. I need to actually get back on track. I cannot fail my parents because they gave me this opportunity to come in.” John Karpov
“For me, grow, it's in my DNA, like it's in my blood. I would never stop growing.” John Karpov
“I think it is still a scarcity that somebody can take it away, that it still could be over, and it still could turn totally different. The pain which I had, it's probably still didn't heal for, and it's been 11 years, so I don't think I'm fully over it.” John Karpov
“It’s amazing to me, like even when you just explained it like that, I kept on thinking: people who don’t have a business think, ‘oh, you did a million in revenue, you’ve gotta be making big money,’ and you go, no — your parameters around not being broke were, I had rent and I had food, and everything else was going back into the business. That’s the life of an entrepreneur.” Dwayne Kerrigan
John is President of Action Home Services (AHS), a leading landscaping and exterior construction company serving Toronto and the Greater Toronto Area. Since founding AHS in 2015, John has grown the business from a small driveway sealing service into one of the GTA’s premier full-service landscaping and outdoor design firms. Under his leadership, the company has become known for its craftsmanship, reliability, and innovative outdoor solutions, specializing in interlocking, landscaping, pool installations, decks, fences, and complete backyard transformations. John’s commitment to quality and customer satisfaction has earned AHS multiple awards and a trusted reputation across the region.
Links:
Website: actionhomeservices.caFacebook: facebook.com/ActionHomeServicesTorontoInstagram: instagram.com/actionhomeservicesLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/action-home-services-gtaConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 08 Oct 2025 - 1h 15min - 109 - 107. Innovation at Any Age: Jim Ritter on 3D Printing, Risk, and Reinvention
In Part 2 of this inspiring conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan sits down again with Jim Ritter, founder of Printed Farms and builder of the world’s largest 3D-printed building. Jim shares not only the technical and economic realities of 3D-printed housing but also the mindset shifts, calculated risks, and reinventions that have defined his remarkable journey.
From navigating lawsuits and seizing unique niches, to pivoting from horses to housing in his sixties, Jim embodies the belief that innovation has no age limit. Along the way, he draws lessons from history, technology, and personal trial-and-error—reminding us that small, consistent actions and adaptability are the true engines of progress.
Whether you’re in construction, entrepreneurship, or simply seeking inspiration for your own reinvention, this episode offers both practical takeaways and timeless wisdom.
Timestamps
00:00 – “If you say you can or you say you can’t, you’ll be true in both.”
01:00 – Why this conversation is about more than building—it’s about innovation and mindset
02:00 – Economics of 3D printing: materials, labor, and early success stories
06:00 – Finding niches through setbacks: lawsuits, loopholes, and launching into 3D printing at 64
08:00 – Innovation vs. practicality: why things must work before they can scale
10:00 – Stories of invention: dishwashers, electric cars, and how adoption really happens
13:00 – Global housing crisis and opportunities for 3D printing
17:00 – Pivoting when plans fail: keeping ventures “plastic” and adaptable
21:00 – The value of small, consistent changes that compound over time
25:00 – Looking back at unexpected career pivots across decades
29:00 – Why career reinvention is vital—and more possible now than ever
33:00 – Risk, mitigation, and the realities of jumping into new ventures
36:00 – Construction + tech: opportunities for the next generation
40:00 – Financing, risk tolerance, and who’s ready for entrepreneurship
41:00 – Mindset: “If you say you can or you say you can’t, you’ll be true in both.”
46:00 – Printing on Mars? Future frontiers in construction and robotics
49:00 – Translation tech, AI, and accelerating innovation
52:00 – Why this is the greatest time in history to be alive
54:00 – Closing: entrepreneurship, courage, and embracing innovation at any stage
Notable Quotes
“If you say you can or you say you can’t, it will be true.” – Jim Ritter“Ride the wave you’re on, not the one you want.” – Jim Ritter“Small changes consistently done over time bring the biggest results.” – DK\“Practicality is the key to life. It has to work.” – Jim Ritter“Innovation has no age limit—you can reinvent yourself at 60 or 70 and still make a difference.” – Dwayne KerriganKey Takeaways
- Innovation Isn’t Age-Bound – Jim jumped into 3D printing at 64, proving reinvention is always possible.Calculated Risk Matters – Pair bold ideas with strategies to mitigate downside.Practicality Over Hype – True innovation must work in the field before it can scale.Small Changes Compound – Success often comes from consistent, minor adjustments over time.Adoption Takes Time – Like dishwashers or electric cars, groundbreaking ideas need supporting systems before they go mainstream.Entrepreneurship Is Essential – Innovation thrives when individuals are willing to take risks, pivot, and solve real-world problems.
Resources & Mentions
Printed Farms – Website | Instagram | YouTubeClay Street Project – Early 3D-printed home success story in FloridaLargest 3D-Printed Building – 11,000 sq. ft. agricultural facility in Wellington, FLBoston Dynamics – Robotics innovations pushing construction and military applicationsConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 01 Oct 2025 - 55min - 108 - 106. 3D Printing the Future: Innovation & Housing with Jim Ritter
In this episode of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, Dwayne sits down with Jim Ritter, founder of Printed Farms and the man behind the world’s largest 3D-printed building. Jim’s story is one of relentless innovation—pivoting industries later in life, solving real-world housing problems, and challenging outdated construction methods with cutting-edge robotics and 3D printing technology.
From the challenges of curing concrete in extreme heat to the economics of large-scale printing, Jim reveals what it really takes to make 3D-printed housing viable. He explains the logistical nightmares of early machines, why cement isn’t the perfect print material, and how his team has built a new system to solve industry problems.
This is more than a conversation about construction—it’s about innovation, adaptability, and the future of housing.
Timestamps
00:00 – The cost of bright ideas: what you don’t know can hurt you
01:00 – Meet Jim Ritter, founder of Printed Farms, and his late-career pivot into 3D printing
02:00 – Why curing time makes or breaks a 3D-printed wall
05:00 – The myths of “printing a house in a day” and the real economics
07:30 – Shell costs, square footage, and learning from first projects
10:00 – Logistical nightmares of early machines and moving heavy equipment
13:00 – Why robotics and 3D printing matter in solving global housing shortages
16:00 – A simple breakdown: how 3D printing a house actually works
20:00 – Pouring beams, columns, and integrating trades in one process
24:00 – Why stronger, smarter structures are critical for climate resilience
27:00 – Innovation always starts small—3D printing’s parallels to early tech adoption
32:00 – Safety, silos, and the hidden dangers of construction work
36:00 – Old machines vs. new mobility: why hoses and pumps kill efficiency
42:00 – Cutting material waste and rethinking the economics of building
47:00 – Reinventing mixers and achieving consistent quality
52:00 – Training the future workforce: print operators, not laborers
58:00 – Economics, labor shortages, and why machines are the future of building
01:02:00 – Permitting, insurance, and how 3D printing fits into existing systems
01:05:00 – Closing thoughts: innovation is not optional—it’s survival
Jim Ritter is a lifelong horseman, entrepreneur, and innovator. After decades competing internationally in show jumping and developing equestrian properties in the U.S. and Sweden, he turned his focus to real estate and advanced construction. In 2019, he founded Printed Farms, the company behind Florida’s first permitted 3D-printed home and the world’s largest 3D concrete printed building. Today, Jim continues to pioneer new patented printing systems through his latest venture, CASPER, shaping the future of construction technology.
Notable Quotes
“It’s what you don’t know that hurts you the most. If you know something and you don’t mitigate for it, well then you’re just stupid.” – Jim Ritter“Innovation always starts small, and then it catches on. That’s how every industry evolves.” – Dwayne Kerrigan“We need structures that can withstand climate events. We can’t stop them, but we can build smarter.” – Jim RitterKey Takeaways
- 3D Printing is Not a Gimmick – It’s about solving real housing shortages with scalable, resilient solutions.Economics Matter More Than Hype – Printing walls in a day is possible, but the real costs lie in logistics, labor, and setup.Innovation Meets Necessity – Climate change, labor shortages, and housing demand are driving the adoption of robotics.Early-Stage Industry – With fewer than 500 printed houses worldwide, the sector is still young—but poised for explosive growth.
Resources & Mentions
Printed Farms – Jim Ritter’s company pioneering 3D-printed concrete structures.Clay Street Project – One of the first fully permitted 3D-printed homes in Florida.Largest 3D-Printed Building – 11,000 sq. ft. structure in Wellington, Florida.Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer
The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. The podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional before making any decisions based on the content.
Sat, 27 Sep 2025 - 1h 06min - 107 - 105. Coaching, Scaling and AI Disruption with Tod Melnyk COO of Dan Martell's Martell Media
In this powerhouse second half of Dwayne Kerrigan’s conversation with Tod Melnyk, COO of Martell Media, the focus turns to the bold, disruptive goal of making 90% of their workflow AI-driven by the end of the year. Tod opens up about leadership transitions, the importance of shadowing for accelerated learning, and the framework behind their coaching programs that keep entrepreneurs accountable through five daily non-negotiables.
From integrating life and business to running calendar audits that reveal where time really goes, Tod shares the behind-the-scenes playbook of how Martell Media scales with intention, precision, and AI-powered execution.
If you’re a business owner wondering how to embrace AI without losing the human touch—or how to structure your calendar and team to unlock exponential growth—this episode is for you.
Timestamps
00:00 – Why 90% of workflow should be done by AI (and what that really means for jobs)
02:00 – Leadership lessons from stepping into responsibility at Dan Martell Media
03:30 – The #1 piece of advice for CEOs when onboarding key hires
05:00 – Shadowing as the fastest way to transfer culture and context
07:00 – Building Dan Martell’s brand: business content + personal integration
09:00 – Balance vs. integration: why separating business and personal doesn’t work
12:00 – The 5 Daily Non-Negotiables
16:00 – Group coaching frameworks and events at Dan Martell Media
17:30 – The AI Adoption Summit and Martell Ventures’ incubation of AI tools
20:00 – How prompt engineering + execution drive real results
22:00 – Using AI for scorecards, insights, and leadership team accountability
26:00 – Why businesses that don’t adopt AI face a bleak future
32:00 – Calendar audits: how to reclaim time and identify blind spots
36:00 – A day in the life: Tod’s 4 AM mornings, workouts, and time-blocked schedule
41:00 – The critical role of executive assistants in scaling beyond yourself
44:30 – Feedback, accountability, and the power of collaborative leadership
46:00 – Parting advice: dream big, be kind, and have fun
Notable Quotes
“I want 90% of your workflow done by AI. Not to replace you—but to amplify you as a human.” – Tod Melnyk
“The single best way to get someone up to speed is to have them shadow you for 30 days. Every meeting. Every conversation.” – Tod Melnyk
“If you’re not using AI in your business, it’s not going to be pretty.” – Tod Melnyk
“Five daily non-negotiables: workout, three posts on camera, review your goals, read 10 pages, and reach out to five people every day.” – Tod Melnyk
“What gets scheduled is what gets done.” – Dwayne Kerrigan
“Dream big. Be kind. Go have some fun.” – Tod Melnyk
Key Takeaways & Resources
AI as Amplifier, Not Replacement: Businesses should aim to automate routine workflows, freeing humans to do higher-value, creative work.Shadowing Matters: Allowing new hires to shadow leaders for 30+ days accelerates alignment, context, and performance.Integration Over Balance: Design a business that integrates life, relationships, and values—rather than separating them.Five Daily Non-Negotiables: Practical, high-accountability habits for building confidence, presence, and discipline.Calendar Audits: Regular reviews reveal wasted time and ensure alignment with top priorities.Executive Assistants as Force Multipliers: A talented EA doesn’t just manage logistics—they amplify your productivity and hold you accountable.AI Adoption is Non-Negotiable: Businesses that delay will struggle against competitors who move faster, smarter, and leaner.Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer
The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 17 Sep 2025 - 48min - 106 - 104. Culture, Growth, and Hard Truths with Martell Media’s COO Tod Melnyk
In this episode of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, Dwayne sits down with Tod Melnyk, COO of Martell Media. Martell Media is the powerhouse company behind bestselling author Dan Martell's high-impact content and coaching ecosystem. Together, Dwayne and Tod explore what it really takes to scale a business while staying true to culture and values.
Tod shares his journey from the brewing industry to running operations at one of the fastest-growing media companies in North America. Together, Dwayne and Tod break down:
Why one-on-ones and quarterly check-ins are non-negotiables.How Dan Martell Media uses its three core values—Build the People, Be the Example, and Simple Scales—to grow globally while keeping culture intact.Why discipline can be both a strength and a weakness in leadership.The pivotal role of self-belief and internal work in becoming a stronger leader.The handoff process between visionary founders and strong integrators that unlocks true scale.Packed with real-world leadership lessons, this episode is a masterclass in operational excellence, culture building, and personal growth.
Timestamps
00:00 – 02:30 | Intro: Dwayne welcomes Tod and frames Dan Martell Media’s mission.
03:00 – 06:30 | Why building people comes before building business.
07:00 – 11:30 | The structure of one-on-ones, quarterly check-ins, and the 5-15 tool.
12:00 – 15:30 | Culture and core values at Martell Media: Build the People, Be the Example, Simple Scales.
18:00 – 22:00 | Kind warriors: balancing high performance with empathy.
23:00 – 28:30 | Tod’s leadership evolution: from hard-driving sales manager to authentic, self-aware leader.
29:00 – 34:30 | Going internal: how self-belief and reflection shift everything.
36:00 – 39:00 | The upside—and downside—of discipline.
41:00 – 45:30 | Scaling through others: why leaders must default to outcomes, not inputs.
47:00 – 49:30 | Common roadblocks leaders face when scaling: delegation, systems, and leadership.
50:00 – 55:30 | Visionary vs. Integrator: how Tod and Dan divide roles to scale.
57:00 – 58:30 | Closing thoughts & teaser for Part 2.
Notable Quotes
“Build the people, because the people build the business.” – Tod Melnyk“You’ve got to be good to get on the team. You’ve got to be great to stay on the team.” – Tod MelnykResources & Mentions
Book: Buy Back Your Time by Dan MartellBook: Worthy by Jamie Kern LimaBook: Rocket Fuel by Gino Wickman & Mark C. WintersFrameworks Referenced: EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System), Visionary vs. IntegratorKey Takeaways
Culture is everything. Core values—Build the People, Be the Example, Simple Scales—drive hiring, retention, and performance.One-on-ones and quarterly reviews are vital to aligning goals, uncovering obstacles, and fostering accountability.Outcomes over inputs. Hold people accountable to results, not just activities.Leadership evolves. Authenticity, empathy, and self-belief matter more than hard-driving tactics alone.Delegation and trust are the keys to scaling beyond founder-driven businesses.Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 10 Sep 2025 - 58min - 105 - 103. Beyond Billions: Jason Castellan on Leadership, Legacy, and Canada’s Future
In Part 2 of his inspiring conversation with Dwayne Kerrigan, Jason Castellan, Co-Founder & CEO of Skyline Group of Companies, goes beyond the growth story to share his philosophy on leadership, risk, and building a multi-generational business.
Jason opens up about succession planning, why staying people-focused is Skyline’s greatest advantage, and how he balances growth with responsibility to over 1,000 employees and 6,000 investors. He also provides candid insights on Canada’s economic headwinds, the housing crisis, energy infrastructure, and the future of clean energy.
This episode is not just about real estate—it’s about resilience, responsibility, and redefining what it means to lead with integrity.
Timestamps
00:00 – Believing in yourself & taking risks when young
01:30 – What separates Skyline from its peers
05:00 – Succession, leadership, and the “piss and vinegar” test
09:00 – Building a multi-generational business
13:30 – The obligation of leading thousands of employees and investors
16:00 – Canada’s economic headwinds & the housing affordability crisis
20:00 – Lessons from the U.S. & why Canada needs a wake-up call
23:00 – Bureaucracy, red tape, and the need for real solutions in housing
29:00 – AI, energy demand, and Skyline’s role in future infrastructure
33:00 – Solar, biogas, and battery storage as scalable solutions
39:00 – Evaluating risk: from speculation to disciplined growth
44:00 – Advice to young entrepreneurs on risk-taking
46:00 – Staying grounded: Jason’s unchanging values despite growth
49:00 – The power of face-to-face relationships in a digital-first world
50:00 – Closing reflections on legacy, integrity, and inspiring the next generation
Notable Quotes
“When you lose your piss and vinegar, get out of the way.” – advice Jason received from a mentor“We gave up on saying we’re in the bricks and mortar business a long time ago. We’re in the people business.” – Jason Castellan“Take all the risk when you’re young. At 21, you can recover. At 65, you may not.” – Jason Castellan“It takes 25 years to build a reputation and 25 minutes to lose it.” – Jason Castellan“Face-to-face bonds are stickier and last longer than any digital connection.” – Jason CastellanResources & Mentions
Skyline Group of Companies → SkylineSkyline Apartment REIT → Learn moreSkyline Industrial REIT → Learn moreSkyline Retail REIT → Learn moreSkyline Clean Energy Fund → Learn moreKey Takeaways
- Leadership evolves, values don’t – stay true to your integrity as the business grows.Succession is not retirement – restructure roles but never retire from purpose.People are the business – investors, employees, and community matter more than assets.Face-to-face relationships still win – especially in an increasingly digital world.Canada must wake up – red tape, underutilized resources, and lack of competitiveness are holding the country back.Energy is the next frontier – scalable solutions like solar, biogas, and battery storage are key to powering AI and future growth.
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 03 Sep 2025 - 52min - 104 - 102. From Small-Town Roots to $9 Billion in Assets: Jason Castellan’s Journey with Skyline
In this powerful first part of a two-part conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan sits down with longtime friend and business leader Jason Castellan, Co-Founder & CEO of Skyline Group of Companies.
Jason shares how growing up in small-town Walkerton, Ontario, instilled humility, resilience, and a relentless work ethic that carried him from hockey rinks and hayfields to co-founding one of Canada’s most respected real estate investment firms.
From his first student rental at the University of Guelph to overseeing $9 billion in assets under management and 1,000 employees, Jason pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to scale a business: financing hacks, the importance of partnerships, knowing when to let go, and why trust and relationships are more valuable than capital.
This episode is a masterclass in grit, community-driven leadership, and building wealth with integrity.
Timestamps
00:00 – The myth of the straight path in business & near-bankruptcy moments
01:30 – Introducing Jason Castellan & Skyline’s $9B journey
04:00 – Lessons from Walkerton: humility, farming roots & mentorship
07:00 – Childhood, hockey dreams, and how sports shaped his competitiveness
13:00 – The first student rental at Guelph and early entrepreneurial lessons
15:30 – Scaling to 52 houses: financing, sweat equity & creative problem-solving
21:00 – Financing strategies: trust, relationships, and building a social network
27:00 – Building your own legend: why life outside business matters
30:00 – Person vs. story: what investors really buy
33:00 – Facing doubt, trust, and learning to scale through partnerships
39:00 – Business battles, resilience, and “one more round” perseverance
42:30 – Experience creates strategy: when to let go & hire experts
46:00 – Leveraging talent: how Skyline attracted top-tier leaders
50:00 – Roadshows, raising capital & building Skyline’s REIT structure
55:00 – Closing thoughts: responsibility, growth, and investor trust
Notable Quotes
“Build your legend. Be more than just a businessperson—have stories, have character, have a life that’s interesting to share.” – Jason Castellan“Face-to-face relationships are the currency of real estate—and of business.” – Jason Castellan“I wouldn’t have a fraction of what I have today if it wasn’t for partners.” – Jason CastellanResources & Mentions
Skyline Group of Companies → SkylineSkyline Apartment REIT → Learn moreSkyline Industrial REIT → Learn moreSkyline Retail REIT → Learn moreSkyline Clean Energy Fund → Learn moreKey Takeaways
- Business is never a straight line – resilience and adaptability are everything.Partnerships can multiply success – sweat + equity = scale.Stay interesting – your life outside business helps you connect and build relationships.Leverage talent – bringing in experts early allows sustainable growth.Resilience is learned – like hockey, business teaches you to get over losses quickly and move on.
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 27 Aug 2025 - 57min - 103 - 101. Turning Pain into Purpose with Alvin Brown
In this deeply personal second half of their conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan and Alvin Brown explore the power of unconditional love, the legacy of strong relationships, and how to face unimaginable loss with grace.
Alvin shares the philosophies and daily disciplines that helped him navigate the devastating passing of his son, Cammie, after a courageous battle with cancer. From being a “lighthouse in the storm” for his family, to building a life with no regrets, Alvin reveals how preparation, consistency, and living intentionally can carry you through life’s hardest moments.
This episode is raw, vulnerable, and full of wisdom on parenting, relationships, and turning pain into purpose.
Timestamps
00:00 – The meaning of life: “Who will cry when you die?”
01:00 – Recap of Part 1 and the “one decision away” philosophy
02:00 – The good wolf/bad wolf parable and the danger of shame
05:00 – Parenting with love, freedom, and minimal shaming
06:30 – The role of unconditional love and the lack of strong male role models
10:00 – Lessons from disappointing mentors
14:00 – How unconditional love from his mom shaped Alvin’s resilience
18:00 – Avoiding mistakes of past male role models in marriage and parenting
20:00 – The blow of losing Cammie and how preparation meets tragedy
23:00 – Building life around family to avoid future regrets
26:00 – Cammie’s rare cancer diagnosis and courageous fight
32:00 – No regrets: being there for every moment
36:00 – Processing grief without suffering
40:00 – Earning love and respect daily
43:00 – Late-night talks with Cammie about fear and life
46:00 – Disassociating from the disease to focus on the person
48:00 – Creating stability and predictability during chaos
52:00 – Rituals, habits, and consistency as anchors
54:00 – Turning pain into purpose through Cammie’s foundation
57:00 – The unexpected generosity and support from friends and community
58:30 – The impact of being present in your children’s lives
1:00:00 – Life lessons: courage, clarity, commitment, and consistency
1:03:00 – Closing reflections on living a life with no regrets
Notable Quotes
“I can’t fail—my mom’s always got my back.” – Alvin Brown“Be the lighthouse in the storm.” – Alvin Brown“Love and respect aren’t given; they’re earned every day.” – Alvin Brown“I’m going through grief, but I’m not suffering—because I have no regrets.” – Alvin Brown“Life consistently requires courage—to live and to die.” – Alvin Brown“I want to be sad that I’ll miss you, not sad that you didn’t live.” – Alvin BrownValuable Resources & Takeaways
- Feed the Right Wolf – Focus on nurturing the behaviors and thoughts that align with your values.Avoid Shame-Based Parenting – Love and encouragement produce more change than guilt.Unconditional Love as a Foundation – Creates the resilience to take risks and recover from failure.Preparation is Key – In crisis, you default to your level of training and discipline.Life Design – Build work around your life, not the other way around, to prevent future regrets.Predictability in Chaos – Habits and routines create stability during life’s storms.Turn Pain into Purpose – Channel grief into meaningful projects, causes, and legacy work.Four Pillars of Mastery – Clarity, Courage, Commitment, Consistency.Measure Life by Impact – Focus on relationships, presence, and contribution over material success.
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Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 20 Aug 2025 - 1h 06min - 102 - 100. One Decision Away: Resilience, Curiosity & Building a Life of Purpose with Alvin Brown
In this powerful 100th episode, Dwayne Kerrigan sits down with long-time friend and high-performance coach Alvin Brown to explore the mindset, resilience, and relentless curiosity that transformed Alvin’s life. From his early days as a Jamaican immigrant living in poverty, to his evolution as an elite therapist for world-class athletes, Alvin shares the turning points, challenges, and mindset shifts that fueled his journey.
They dive deep into the value of sport as a springboard for confidence and self-worth, the discipline of constant learning, and the life-changing power of creating space between stimulus and response. Packed with raw honesty and hard-earned wisdom, this episode is a masterclass in perseverance, personal mastery, and living intentionally.
Timestamps
00:00 – “Don’t get through it, get from it” – Alvin’s core life philosophy
01:00 – Dwayne introduces Alvin Brown and their 25+ year friendship
02:00 – Alvin’s immigration from Jamaica and early years in poverty
04:30 – Resilience born from cultural shifts and adversity
05:30 – Becoming one of the top massage therapists and constant learning
06:30 – Building The Centre for Healing and Peak Performance & writing his book
07:00 – Role modeling long-term relationships and perseverance
09:00 – Alvin’s early ambitions in wrestling, martial arts, and boxing
13:30 – Lessons from sport: confidence, belief, and self-worth
15:30 – The Olympic dream as legitimacy and identity
18:00 – The chance encounter in Cuba that led to a career in therapy
20:00 – Going from a “D for diploma” student to top marks in massage school
22:00 – Stacking skills: nutrition, acupuncture, energy work, osteopathy
30:00 – The importance of energy, intention, and integrative health
31:00 – Overcoming the “no degree” weakness and earning a psychology degree
33:00 – Studying NLP and the lifelong practice of mindset mastery
35:00 – Curiosity as a driver and eliminating perceived weaknesses
40:30 – One decision away – pivotal moments in parenting and relationships
45:00 – Creating space between stimulus and response to make better decisions
51:00 – The role of introspection and honest mentorship
55:00 – Lessons in ego, business building, and staying true to your gifts
59:30 – Why asking “why” matters – and when it doesn’t
1:02:00 – Understanding that “greatness” is different for everyone
1:03:00 – Preview of Part 2: handling loss and becoming a lighthouse for others
Notable Quotes
“Don’t get through it, get from it.” – Alvin Brown“You’re always one decision away from turning up or turning down the trajectory of your life.” – Alvin Brown“Sport gave me confidence, belief, and self-worth—and that became my springboard.” – Alvin Brown“The space between stimulus and response is where mastery lives.” – Alvin Brown“I don’t seek to be smart; I seek to be wise.” – Alvin Brown“Sometimes you’re driving the right vehicle on the wrong road.” – Dwayne KerriganValuable Resources & Takeaways
- The Power of Sport – Organized sports teach goal-setting, resilience, teamwork, and how to come back from loss.Stack Your Skills – Keep adding complementary knowledge (nutrition, energy work, mindset training) to create a unique expertise.Mindset Over Mechanics – True health and success require aligning the mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual.Introspection as a Tool – Use reflection to uncover patterns, eliminate limiting narratives, and avoid repeating mistakes.Space Before Action – Train yourself to pause between stimulus and response to make thoughtful, intentional choices.Ego Check in Business – Be honest about whether you’re a business builder or an income producer—and build accordingly.Redefining Greatness – Your version of “peak performance” doesn’t have to match anyone else’s.
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 13 Aug 2025 - 1h 05min - 101 - 99. The Champion Mindset: Thriving with Heather Moyse
Four-time Olympian, two-time gold medalist, World Rugby Hall of Famer and high-performance coach Heather Moyse returns to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for a transformative conversation on sustainable success. In this energizing episode, Heather and Dwayne explore what it really means to thrive—from corporate burnout and high performance to the true essence of recovery, clarity, and fulfillment.
Heather breaks down her signature “Podium Process”—a framework for shifting from autopilot to intentional mastery. With humour, honesty, and Olympic-level insight, she shares how to move from societal expectations to personal values, how to reframe setbacks, and how to redefine balance on your own terms.
This isn’t just about peak performance. It’s about purpose-driven living—without sacrificing your wellbeing.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Welcome back, Heather Moyse
01:30 – What Heather’s been working on: new keynotes and multiple book ideas
04:00 – Introducing “The Champion Mindset” and what sets it apart
06:45 – Mindset shifts: thriving > extreme productivity
09:15 – Corporate vs. athletic performance parallels
11:00 – Heather’s “Podium Process”: Dream, Plan, Pursue, Perform
13:30 – Self-sabotage and moving through internal blocks
17:00 – Recovery ≠ rest: the burnout epidemic explained
19:15 – Micro, Meso & Macro Recovery in sport and business
22:00 – Why “one step back, two steps forward” is a strategic power move
27:00 – Root Why vs. Surface Goals: questions that clarify your true path
33:00 – Gender differences in burnout and balance
38:00 – Self-sabotage, people-pleasing, and the fear of judgment
42:00 – Why clarity requires disconnection from the noise
45:30 – Heather’s own mindfulness & recovery practices
51:00 – What propels forward movement and momentum
55:00 – From High Performance to Mastery (Dwayne’s mindset shift)
57:30 – Final thoughts + where to connect with Heather
Notable Quotes:
“People don’t need to feel guilt and shame for not doing all the things social media tells us to do.” — Heather Moyse
“Burnout isn’t from too much work—it’s from too little recovery.” — Heather Moyse
“You can’t feel fulfilled when you’re living a life aligned with someone else’s values.” — Heather Moyse
“We’re more committed to recharging our phones than ourselves.” — Heather Moyse
Resources & Mentions:
Heather Moyse Website https://www.heathermoyse.com/Book: Redefining Realistic by Heather MoyseInstagram: @heathermoyseListen to Heather’s first episode on the Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast:https://open.spotify.com/episode/5Uw17Z9M6WXq8H5LmFBy9Y?si=32ySJBUWTSm-XyqtO9GlQw
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7cHwtyjwQ1LC3dgJA8W48k?si=OOtCOvU2QIeIfRVuemh2lw
Key Takeaways:
High performance is not sustainable without intentional recovery built into your system.The Podium Process (Dream → Plan → Pursue → Perform) is a customizable roadmap for fulfillment.Clarity requires space—true insight only comes when you step back from the noise.Reframing setbacks is a skill—one that separates people who grow from those who stall.Thriving ≠ doing more. It means aligning with your values, your energy, and your purpose.Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 06 Aug 2025 - 1h 00min - 100 - 98. Molly Bloom’s Redemption: From Federal Felon to Oscars Night
In this powerful second installment, Molly Bloom takes us from her lowest point—convicted felon, millions in debt, and under FBI indictment—to the surprising turn that led her back into the spotlight. She shares how the same athletic grit that carried her down Olympic slopes helped her weather mob threats and a RICO case, and ultimately propelled her into publishing a memoir and partnering with Aaron Sorkin to bring Molly’s Game to the big screen. Along the way, Molly reveals the hard lessons of maintaining integrity under pressure, the freedom found in losing everything, and the resilience required to rewrite your own story. She also opens up about balancing motherhood with newfound opportunities, her unlikely journey through Hollywood, and the personal triumph of starting a family against all odds.
Timestamps
00:00 – Rock Bottom Reveal: From poker queen to convicted felon in millions of debt
01:00 – Athletic Grit, Part II: How Olympic lessons powered Molly’s comeback
02:30 – Motherhood vs. Ambition: Battling mom-guilt, building your support “village,” finding stillness
07:00 – Rewriting the Rulebook: From burnout to a recovery toolkit of meditation, rest & self-compassion
10:00 – Integrity Under Fire: Turning down the easy plea and standing by your values
12:00 – The Mob, the Gun, the Mirror: Surviving extortion and confronting your moral drift
16:00 – Indictment & Advocacy: Choosing transparency with federal prosecutors over plea-bargain fame
20:00 – Betting on a Story: From a 10-copy book launch to winning Aaron Sorkin’s Hollywood trust
24:00 – From Courtroom to Red Carpet: The surreal leap from sentencing hearing to Oscar buzz
28:00 – True Jackpot: Family: Defying 1% IVF odds to welcome daughter Fiona
33:00 – Closing Hand: Your Next Chapter: Molly’s challenge to turn every setback into a comeback
Notable Quotes
“I just remember making a promise to the universe: I will never abandon my values, my family, or myself ever again.” Molly Bloom
“If you’re unwilling to take another bold risk after a bad beat, you’ll stay right where you are.” Molly Bloom
“There’s a freedom in losing everything—because then you can’t be anyone but who you really are.” Molly Bloom
“I met Aaron Sorkin by betting on the best horse in Hollywood, even when my own book had sold ten copies.” Molly Bloom
Valuable Resources
Molly’s Game (Aaron Sorkin, 2017) & Molly’s Game memoir by Molly Bloom
Key Takeaways
- Integrity Pays Dividends: Choosing values over easy outs—even under federal indictment—builds lifelong credibility.Leverage Athletic Grit: The discipline that wins races can also power comebacks after personal and professional collapse.Build Your Village: Sustainable success requires support: mentors, family, hired help, and radical self-care.Own Your Story: When life derails you, the only way forward is to become the author of your own narrative.Bet on Yourself: Even if your first “hand” flops (book sales, legal battles), bold risks can unlock game-changing opportunities.Redefine the Jackpot: True victory lies not in money or fame, but in resilience, relationships, and the chance to start anew.
Tune in for more wisdom from Molly’s journey—and get ready to play your next hand with courage and conviction.
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 30 Jul 2025 - 1h 05min - 99 - 97. Dealing Life’s Hand: Molly Bloom on Mindset & Comebacks
In this riveting first installment, Dwayne sits down with Molly Bloom, they trace her journey from a straight-A student and elite mogul skier—who overcame major spinal surgery—to California, where an identity crisis set her on an unexpected path into the world of high-stakes underground poker. Along the way, Molly reflects on the powerful roles family dynamics, honesty, and courage have played in her life. She shares how the pivotal “20 Seconds of Courage” mindset transformed her decision-making, and reveals how meticulous attention to sensory details and genuine empathy— “effective presence”—became the secret sauce that elevated her from server to sought-after host of billionaire poker tables. Molly also imparts hard-won lessons in resilience, parenting, and emotional intelligence, including techniques like cognitive reappraisal and value inventories that anyone can apply to amplify personal and professional success.
Time Stamps:
00:00 – Opening Hand: From Olympic Moguls to Underground Poker
01:30 – The Truth Deal: Scoliosis Surgery, Law School & Reclaiming Honesty
04:00 – Identity All-In: Chasing Warmth After a Career-Defining Fall
07:00 – First Hand Played: How “Tip Molly” Became the Table’s Secret Weapon
09:30 – Family Face-Off: Lessons from a Stern Father & Compassionate Mother
13:00 – Parenting Like a Pro: Building Resilience in Your Kids
19:00 – The 20-Second Bet: A Simple Hack for Courageous Action
23:00 – Rock-Bottom Royal Flush: Freedom Found in Failure
25:30 – Service Mastery: Elevating the Guest Experience at Billionaire Tables
30:00 – Emotional Footprint: The Art of “Effective Presence”
36:00 – Empathy Unlocked: Navigating Easy vs. Hard Connections
41:30 – Sensory High-Stakes: Designing Unforgettable, Multi-Sense Experiences
49:00 – Outsider’s Edge: Creativity & Loyalty from the Poker Fringe
54:00 – Part 2 Tease: Scaling Empires, Legal Battles & Reinvention
Notable Quotes
“If you’re asking how I went from a straight-A student and elite athlete to running an underground crime syndicate, yeah, there’s some causes and conditions there.” Molly Bloom
“People are going to forget what you said and what you did. They’re not going to forget the way you made them feel.” Dwayne Kerrigan
“20 seconds of courage. That’s all it takes to send the email that changes your career.” Molly Bloon
Valuable Resources
Film & Memoir: Molly’s Game (movie by Aaron Sorkin) & Molly’s Game memoir by Molly BloomEmotional Intelligence: Daniel Goleman’s Emotional Intelligence; research on the “emotional footprint” meta-analysisMindfulness & Reappraisal: Byron Katie’s Loving What Is; practice journals for cognitive reappraisal (“What else could this mean?”)Risk & Courage: Brené Brown’s work on vulnerability; prompts for “20 seconds of courage” challengesKey Takeaways
- Inventory Your Values:Write down who you want to be, how you want to treat people, and then audit your behavior regularly.Practice 20 Seconds of Courage:Before fear spins you out, commit just 20 seconds to take the leap—send the ask, make the call, pitch the idea.Cultivate Effective Presence:Focus on the emotional footprint you leave: genuine curiosity, empathetic listening (“listening to discover”), and small acts of service.Use Cognitive Reappraisal:When conflict arises, reframe instantly (“What else could this mean?”) to defuse negativity and maintain inner calm.Design for All Senses:In any client-facing situation—from podcasts to boardrooms—mind lighting, sound, scent, and novelty to create immersive, memorable experiences.Balance Empathy & Boundaries:Exercise “easy empathy” with those like you, and “hard empathy” with those you profoundly disagree with—listen without immediate judgment.
Tune in next week for Part 2, where Molly unpacks the rise and fall of her poker empire, her legal odyssey, and the next evolution of identity beyond the high-stakes tables.
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Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 23 Jul 2025 - 1h 03min - 98 - 96. Hustle with Heart: Inside the Operational Mindset of Vaneli Martinov
In this unfiltered second half of their conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan and Vaneli Martinov dive deeper into the mindset, systems, and soul behind exceptional operations leadership.
Vaneli—EVP of Operations for the world-renowned Wellington International—opens up about what it really means to lead from the front lines: managing 500+ seasonal staff, navigating crisis in real-time, and mentoring a team while raising a family.
From hiring with heart to dealing with "energy vampires," from picking up trash alongside the CEO to gamifying motivation in a 16-week event sprint, this episode is a masterclass in human-centered leadership.
She doesn’t hold back on the pressures, pivots, and personal sacrifices that come with the job—but also shares the mindset shifts, values, and rituals that keep her grounded and inspired.
Timestamps:
00:00 – The true nature of operations: structure in chaos
01:30 – From intern to executive: building your network with humility
04:15 – Work ethic, boundaries & the generational shift in expectations
07:00 – AI, the future of education, and what’s changing fast
10:00 – Adapting to AI: how Vaneli's team is preparing
12:00 – Company counselor: when leadership means emotional availability
15:00 – Empowering your team instead of enabling dependency
17:30 – Spotting energy drainers and culture mismatches
18:30 – What it actually takes to get fired by Vanelli
20:00 – Why most problems are rooted in miscommunication, not incompetence
21:00 – Building better onboarding, systems, and structure
23:00 – Hiring 600+ people in 3 months: inside the chaos
24:30 – Culture, compensation & the shift from scrambling to stability
25:45 – How gamification, incentives & recognition drive retention
28:00 – When your CEO leads by example (and picks up trash)
30:00 – Leadership on the ground vs. from the tower
33:00 – What Saturday nights with 10,000 people look like
35:00 – Vanelli’s operational bumper sticker: Hustle, pivot, repeat
37:00 – Fear vs. courage in leadership
39:00 – How motherhood redefined her priorities and definition of fear
42:30 – Business as a gladiator sport—and a spiritual journey
44:00 – Why leadership reflection is crucial for sustainable growth
45:30 – How to get in touch with Vaneli
Key Takeaways & Resources:
1. Leadership Is Emotional Labor
Vaneli embraces the role of “company counselor,” knowing that guiding people through emotional and professional bottlenecks is part of her value—but she’s also learned to set boundaries to avoid burnout.
2. Hiring 500+ Staff? Culture Is the Glue
They’ve moved from scrambling to stability through better pay, returning managers, incentive programs, and weekly recognition rituals. Culture wins over resumes.
3. Operations = Chaos + Calm
You can plan all you want, but execution is where the real work begins. Flexibility and adaptability are key to thriving in operations.
4. Don’t Confuse Fear with Failure
Vaneli explores the difference between being fearless and being courageous. She still feels fear—but leads with action anyway.
5. Modern Leadership = On-the-Ground Leadership
Their CEO leads by example, works beside the crew, and gets real-time feedback from front-line staff. Leadership isn’t about distance—it’s about presence.
6. AI Is Coming for Admin—Not Empathy
While they’re just starting to adopt AI tools, Vaneli acknowledges its potential for operations—but believes people will always be at the core of execution.
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 16 Jul 2025 - 48min - 97 - 95. Leading with Grace: Vaneli Martinov on Mastering Chaos and Building Legacy
What does it take to run 500 events across 16 weeks and still make it home for bedtime stories? In this powerhouse episode, Dwayne Kerrigan sits down with Vaneli Martinov, Executive Vice President of Operations for the world-renowned Wellington International.
Vaneli opens up about the reality behind high-performance leadership—juggling relentless operations, motherhood, and building a career from the ground up. From her early days as an intern at the most expensive golf club in the world to project-managing $200M developments, her story is a masterclass in grit, grace, and grounded leadership.
You’ll learn how she balances chaos with calm, leads massive teams with empathy, and why being the "swan on the surface, but paddling like hell underneath" is one of her greatest strengths.
Timestamps:
00:00 – The Swan Mentality: Grace above, chaos below
01:10 – Meet Vaneli Martinov
03:00 – Managing 500 events in 16 weeks
05:45 – Operational teardown + seasonal rebuilds
07:00 – Balancing career, marriage & motherhood
08:45 – Living in fight-or-flight: Thriving in chaos
10:00 – Hustling her way from intern to executive
14:45 – Saying yes before you’re ready
17:00 – Early career lessons in elite service & proactivity
21:00 – Building trust through “nothing is beneath me” leadership
23:00 – Predictive thinking vs reactive firefighting
26:00 – Scaling up from operations grunt to strategic executive
29:00 – 80–100 hour weeks: Was it worth it?
31:00 – Redefining hustle with purpose and family in mind
35:00 – The truth about toxic relationships and healthy ambition
38:00 – The hidden challenges of being a woman in male-dominated leadership
44:30 – How Vaneli leads with feminine strength and authenticity
48:00 – Modeling the right leadership style through lived experience
52:00 – Networking with purpose vs performative connection
Key Takeaways & Resources:
1. Say Yes Before You’re Ready
Vaneli’s career is built on courageous action—even when she didn’t feel ready. She leaned into the unknown and learned through doing.
2. Leadership Is Earned Through Action
She models respect by showing up in the trenches. From hauling trash to handling investors, no job is beneath her—and that credibility compounds.
3. Early Career: Hustle + Humility Wins
What set her apart wasn’t grades—it was drive. Her advice to young professionals? Show up curious, proactive, and willing to do anything.
4. Learn to Anticipate, Not Just React
Whether managing elite clientele or massive operations, success lies in predicting needs and solving problems before they arise.
5. Redefining Feminine Leadership
Vaneli rejected the “bulldog boss” stereotype and leaned into emotional intelligence, empathy, and warmth—without sacrificing strength.
6. Balance Isn’t Static—It’s Intentional
As a wife, mother, and exec, she’s constantly pivoting. Her north star? Show up with positivity, and choose grace over perfection.
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 09 Jul 2025 - 57min - 96 - 94. Moving Horizons: How to Lead with Trust, Build Resilient Teams with Rich Diviney
In Part 2 of this masterclass conversation, former Navy SEAL and leadership architect Rich Diviney returns to go deeper into the strategies behind his new book The Masters of Uncertainty—and delivers real, actionable frameworks for leaders who want to scale, perform, and lead better under pressure.
Dwayne and Rich explore how to literally reduce fear using a neuroscience-backed process called Moving Horizons, how to train your brain to handle chaos like a SEAL, and how to architect team trust with the 4 C’s of Trust framework. From building high-performance cultures to instilling behavior-based identity in teams, this episode is packed with takeaways for any business owner, leader, or parent navigating complexity.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro to Moving Horizons: Why the brain craves certainty
02:00 – The DPO framework: Duration, Pathway, Outcome
05:30 – Real-world example: SEAL training and horizon-setting
07:00 – Using cold plunges to practice focus under stress
09:00 – Coaching children using horizon-picking
11:30 – The neuroscience of dopamine, motivation, and why we quit
13:00 – How to shift your horizon in real time
15:30 – Eliminating fear by narrowing focus
18:00 – Learning to appreciate the moment without losing performance
21:00 – Can Moving Horizons help with mental health?
24:00 – Fear as a risk assessment tool (not something to eliminate)
26:00 – Why Part 3 of the book is a surprise gift for entrepreneurs
27:30 – Dynamic Subordination: The new leadership model
29:30 – Creating trust: The 4 Cs (Competence, Consistency, Character, Compassion)
34:00 – How most companies fall short on trust
37:30 – Building character and compassion in your culture
40:00 – Behavior = the bridge to trust
42:30 – Culture values vs. culture behaviors
44:30 – How to rewrite company values using “I Am” statements
48:00 – Mapping core attributes to job behaviors
50:00 – Redefining success as the exploration of human potential
53:00 – Final thoughts: You're not too busy, you’re stuck in certainty
Notable Quotes:
“Fear is not the enemy. It’s a risk assessment tool. The goal is not to eliminate fear—but to work with it.” – Rich Diviney
“If you’re too busy, it’s probably because you’re hiding in certainty. That’s the enemy of scale.” – Dwayne Kerrigan
“Our goal in life is to use life to explore our potential. That’s the real definition of success.” – Rich Diviney
“You can’t make anyone trust you. All you can do is behave in a way that earns it.” – Rich Diviney
Tools & Resources:
Rich Diviney’s assessment & attributes work: www.theattributes.comAssessment tool use promo codeKERRIGAN15: https://hub.theattributes.com/The Masters of Uncertainty – https://learn.theattributes.com/mastering-uncertaintyThe Attributes Book (2021) – foundational read on human performance“Moving Horizons” method – how to reduce fear through micro-goalsThe 4 Cs of Trust Framework: Competence, Consistency, Character, CompassionCulture Architecture with “I Am” StatementsDopamine and Motivation: How to manage goal-setting energyActionable Takeaways:
- Use “Moving Horizons” to reduce overwhelm→ Set micro-goals with a defined Duration, Pathway, and Outcome (DPO).Teach your team how to lead themselves→ Empower them to focus, shift responsibility fluidly, and trust each other.Map values to behaviors, not buzzwords→ Example: “Show others you care” = specific behaviors like thank-yous and peer recognition.Run a Trust Audit using the 4 Cs→ Where is your team strong—and where are you under-investing?Culture is a team identity→ If you don’t define your culture, your team will do it for you—and you may not like the result.
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 02 Jul 2025 - 56min - 95 - 93. The Masters of Uncertainty with Rich Diviney
In this powerful first installment of a two-part conversation, former Navy SEAL commander and performance expert Rich Diviney returns to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast to discuss his groundbreaking new book, The Masters of Uncertainty.
With decades of leadership inside one of the world’s most elite military units, Rich unpacks how we can all perform better under pressure, lead with clarity in chaos, and transform anxiety into purposeful action.
Dwayne and Rich dive into the neuroscience behind fear, the underestimated power of identity, and the simple yet potent tools you can use to build teams that scale with integrity. Whether you're a business owner, leader, or high performer—this episode is a masterclass in navigating the unknown with confidence and precision.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Welcome back Rich Diviney
02:00 – Why The Masters of Uncertainty had to be written
05:40 – The book format that turns ideas into tools
07:00 – Life after SEALs: Business, family, and building with purpose
11:30 – Humans first: Common ground in conflict zones
13:30 – The irony of great leadership: Make yourself obsolete
16:00 – From Navy SEALs to CEO: The universal language of leadership
18:10 – The language of performance and the power of attributes
20:00 – Scaling wisely: Patience vs. pressure in entrepreneurship
26:00 – The psychology of transition & identity
33:00 – “I AM” statements and their impact on behavior
37:00 – Why we freeze, panic, or procrastinate
40:00 – The science of fear: Uncertainty + Anxiety
48:00 – The “Physiological Sigh” and open-gaze breathing
53:00 – Cold plunges, breathwork, and nervous system mastery
57:00 – Teaser: What to expect in Part 2
Notable Quotes:
“Leadership is about creating the environment where your team can outrun you.” – Rich Diviney
“When the shit hits the fan, personality goes out the window. That’s when attributes take over.” – Rich Diviney
“True confidence is knowing that when uncertainty hits, I’ll figure it out—and I’m okay.” – Rich Diviney
“Most people are not aware of how driven they are by the need for certainty. That’s what holds them back.” – Dwayne Kerrigan
Resources & Tools Mentioned:
Rich Diviney’s assessment & attributes work: www.theattributes.comAssessment tool use promo codeKERRIGAN15: https://hub.theattributes.com/The Masters of Uncertainty – https://learn.theattributes.com/mastering-uncertaintyThe Attributes Book (2021) – foundational read on human performancePhysiological Sigh (breathwork tool) – Explained in Andrew Huberman’s workOpen-gaze technique – A tool for reducing autonomic arousal instantlyTop Takeaways for Business Leaders:
- Uncertainty + Anxiety = Fear→ Break the cycle by managing one or both.The Identity Shift Matters→ Retire old “I AM” statements that no longer serve you. Choose new ones consciously.Breath and Vision Are Performance Tools→ Use the “physiological sigh” and panoramic vision to reset your nervous system.Attributes > Personality in Stress→ Know how your team shows up under pressure, not just how they act when it’s easy.Great Leadership is Scalable→ Teach a language of performance so others can lead with the same clarity and impact.
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 25 Jun 2025 - 59min - 94 - 92. The Future Is Now: AI, Risk, and Building with Purpose with Swish Goswami (Part 2)
In this dynamic Part 2 episode, entrepreneur and growth strategist Swish Goswami returns to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast to explore the cutting edge of AI, data ethics, and leading with intention in an unpredictable world.
From the growing tension between privacy and innovation to the responsibility of the next generation of creators, Swish unpacks what it takes to thrive in a digital-first era. He also shares actionable strategies for collecting first-party data, using no-code tools to transform customer engagement, and building authentic, future-ready relationships.
It’s a sharp, forward-looking conversation at the intersection of modern marketing, entrepreneurial resilience, and tech-powered growth.
Timestamp Guide:
[00:00–03:00] The AI surveillance debate: Is our phone listening—and what happens next?
[03:00–07:00] How platforms track behavior, listen for cues, and sell targeted access
[07:00–10:00] Why North America lags in privacy laws & what GDPR gets right
[10:00–14:00] Marketing in the age of AI: personalization, data, and trust
[14:00–19:00] Loyalty programs, event-driven marketing & digital rewards for restaurants
[19:00–22:00] Replit & no-code AI platforms: Building smarter, faster, and cheaper
[22:00–26:00] Gamifying customer experiences and building public-facing leaderboards
[26:00–30:00] AI optimism vs. AI caution: The parental dilemma in a post-ChatGPT world
[30:00–35:00] The responsibility of Gen Z and what it really means to take initiative
[35:00–38:00] Entrepreneurial mindset tips for teens and why network is everything
[38:00–42:00] First-principle thinking, Sunday planning rituals & high-performance habits
[42:00–47:00] What stops most people? Risk, fear, failure—and how to reframe them
[47:00–50:00] Constant motion: why failing fast and often is a sign you’re doing it right
Notable Quotes:
“AI is going to replace repetitive roles—but your ability to think critically, build relationships, and act fast? That’s the real differentiator.” – Swish Goswami
“Marketing isn’t about shouting louder. It’s about building a feedback loop between trust, value, and relevance.” – Swish Goswami
Featured Resources & Tools:
Replit – No-code AI platform for loyalty cards, gamification, and business apps: https://replit.comTypeform (AI Survey Builder) – https://www.typeform.comGoogle Veo 3 (Video Gen) – AI video generation tool for onboarding & content11 Labs (AI Voice Cloning) – Hyper-realistic audio generation: https://elevenlabs.ioGleam.io (Giveaway Engine) – Smart sweepstakes & lead generation platform: https://gleam.ioGDPR Overview – The global gold standard in data protection: https://gdpr.euKey Takeaways:
Businesses should start collecting first-party data now—email, SMS, and engagement tracking are the foundation of future-proof marketing.Use no-code platforms like Replit to build loyalty systems, gamify customer behavior, and enhance user experiences—fast.AI can be both an enabler and a threat—leaders must balance innovation with responsibility, especially when it comes to youth and data privacy.Gen Z has unprecedented tools—Swish urges young people to take action and build something they care about.Your mindset around risk, failure, and action determines how far you go. Stay in motion. Think critically. Don’t wait for permission.Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 18 Jun 2025 - 51min - 93 - 91. Swish Goswami on Future-Proof Marketing & Modern Entrepreneurship
In this powerhouse Part 1 conversation, Dwayne Kerrigan sits down with Swish Goswami—serial entrepreneur, public speaker, and Head of Growth at Parallel Studios—to uncover what it really takes to build, scale, and sell companies in today’s hyper-evolving landscape.
From co-founding the data-forward tech company Surf (acquired in 2025), to leading global growth for sci-fi gaming empire Parallel Studios, Swish shares deeply candid insights on strategic marketing, leadership evolution, the future of AI in games, and building community-led brands that scale with trust. Whether you're a startup founder, a growth strategist, or simply obsessed with the intersection of tech, storytelling, and data—you’ll walk away with a new framework for action.
Timestamp Breakdown:
[00:00–02:00] Swish’s philosophy on uncertainty and embracing the mystery of life
[02:00–06:00] From public speaking to startup exits—Swish’s journey and intro to Parallel
[06:00–10:00] What is Parallel Studios? The origin story, universe building, and IP strategy
[10:00–14:00] Building a multi-platform franchise from comics to games to film
[14:00–18:00] Growth mindset: From objective-first to understanding user behavior
[18:00–22:00] The Parallel marketing playbook: giveaways, influencers, events, ads
[22:00–26:00] Cutting channels that don’t convert + redefining what “working” really means
[26:00–30:00] Vanity metrics vs. business results and why Swish cut all outsourced agencies
[30:00–35:00] Hiring freelancers, testing AI tools, and doing the gritty work yourself
[35:00–38:00] The untapped power of word-of-mouth and referral marketing
[38:00–45:00] Data ethics, transparency, and the revolutionary Surf browser extension
[45:00–50:00] Turning data into customer value without crossing privacy lines
[50:00–51:00] Preview of Part 2: AI tools, risk-taking, and scaling smart in a shifting economy
Notable Quotes:
“You don’t have to be everywhere. Do it yourself first—even if you fail, you’ll understand what it takes.” – Swish Goswami
“Marketing starts with a clear objective. Work backwards. Understand your user. Then choose your channels.” – Swish Goswami
“PR won’t convert on its own. But what can you do with PR? That’s the strategy.” – Swish Goswami
“The beauty of life is mystery. If there was a button that told me what I’d be doing at 40, I’d never press it.” – Swish Goswami
Resources & Mentions:
Parallel Studios – Explore the sci-fi universe built on original IP, comics, and gamingThe Young Entrepreneur – Co-authored by Swish Goswami Pangea – Hire vetted marketing freelancers and contractors AppsFlyer – Mobile attribution platform used for tracking campaignsGetLeverage.com & Fiverr – Tools for scaling with freelance supportKey Takeaways:
Great marketing doesn’t start with channels—it starts with understanding your user and working backwards from your business goals.Word of mouth and grassroots engagement are still unmatched for long-term traction.Don’t fall for vanity metrics. Test, measure real results, and cut ruthlessly what doesn’t work.Community feedback is gold—but it’s your job to decide how and when to listen.Data is powerful, but transparency, consent, and compensation are the future of ethical data use.Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 11 Jun 2025 - 51min - 92 - 90. From Chaos to Clarity: Master Co’s Process for Real Peace and Power
In the final installment of our powerful 3-part series, Dwayne welcomes back world-renowned energy healer and spiritual teacher Master Stephen Co for a transformative conversation designed to help high-performing professionals reclaim calm, clarity, and control—especially in the face of emotional chaos.
This episode is not just a conversation. It’s a clinic.
Master Co walks listeners through a step-by-step energetic technique to move from turmoil to stillness, including live guided visualizations and the Screen Technique—an easy-to-follow method to dissolve emotional patterns, cravings, and even chronic self-doubt.
Whether you’re navigating business pressure, burnout, personal pain, or simply seeking peace, this episode equips you with practical tools to clear emotional clutter, access stillness, and take back your power.
Timestamps
00:00 – Why most people stay stuck in emotional pain
02:30 – From chaos to calmness: The 4-stage energetic process
07:45 – Identity traps: How thoughts and emotions become “you”
10:00 – “I am angry” vs. “I feel angry”: Why language matters
15:45 – Confession, color therapy, and violet fire
17:20 – The “Screen Technique” demonstration
24:45 – Visualizing your new reality with the Golden Screen
29:00 – Observing the mind: Meditation for finding the Self
35:00 – Who is the observer? A guided experience
41:00 – Applying the process in everyday emotional triggers
43:00 – How to begin forgiving yourself
46:00 – Addiction, repeated patterns, and the importance of help
50:00 – A powerful real-life story: Dwayne’s son, emergency healing, and immediate pain relief
51:45 – Where to learn more about Pranic Healing
Notable Quotes
“You are not punished for your anger. You’re punished by your anger.”
“Whatever comes after the word ‘I am’ becomes your identity—be careful with it.”
“Observe the one who is observing. That’s where your real power lives.”
“You created your thoughts and emotions—so you have the power to dissolve them.”
“Energy goes where your attention flows. What are you feeding today?”
Resources & Takeaways
The Screen Technique
Free Meditations & Energy Tools
Explore guided practices: https://masterco.org
Learn More About Pranic Healing
Find a practitioner or training: https://pranichealing.com
Recommended Book: Your Hands Can Heal You by Master Co & Dr. Eric B. Robins
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 04 Jun 2025 - 53min - 91 - 89. Master the Moment: From Stress to Stillness with Master Co Part 2
In Part 2 of this profoundly moving conversation, Dwayne sits down again with Master Stephen Co—one of the most influential spiritual teachers in Dwayne's life—for a powerful discussion that stretches beyond business and deep into self-awareness, spiritual discipline, and energetic mastery.
Master Co guides listeners through a short but transformative meditation, unpacks the mechanics of stress and healing through the lens of pranic energy, and explains how stillness—not just calmness—is the true gateway to mastering your reactions, relationships, and results in life and business. This is more than a conversation—it’s a shift in perspective.
Timestamps & Highlights:
[00:01:00] – Why you must listen to Part 1 before diving in
[00:02:15] – How stress anchors into your energy system and where it lives
[00:05:10] – The power and purpose of violet light in healing
[00:08:15] – Meditation is not concentration—here’s the difference
[00:13:00] – Guided 2-minute meditation for experiencing stillness
[00:19:30] – What it means to meditate and remain awake (and why that matters in business)
[00:23:15] – Dwayne shares his real-world transformation through energy work
[00:25:00] – You are the thinker—not the thought
[00:29:30] – Are we just nothingness? The spiritual physics behind your true identity
[00:33:00] – What reincarnation teaches about learning through the body
[00:36:45] – Master Co’s mind-blowing take on the ego, and training your emotional horses
[00:42:30] – The “three questions” Buddhist practice you can apply in business today
[00:45:30] – The ripple effect of healing in leadership and life
[00:48:10] – The ultimate bottom line: “Being a good person will always make you come out on top.”
Notable Quotes:
“You are not your body, not your thoughts, not your emotions. You are the creator of them.” – Master Co
“The more time I spend in the stillness, the more I realize I get to choose what I create.” – Master Co
“Being a good person is the manifestation of the ‘I’ controlling the three horses—body, thoughts, emotions.” – Master Co
Key Takeaways & Resources:
Guided Meditation: Experience Master Co’s 2-minute “space between the breath” meditation (13:00 mark) to center your awarenessSelf-Mastery Framework: Identify your true self as the creator of thoughts and emotions—not the passenger of themThe Three-Question Method: Ask:- What am I feeling/thinking?Why am I feeling/thinking this?What should be my next thought?
Energy Anatomy: Understand how emotional energies lodge in specific chakras and how to clear them using breath and visualizationPractical Spirituality for Business: Learn how daily spiritual hygiene leads to better leadership, calmer decisions, and intentional relationshipsShare the Ripple:
This is the episode you share when someone you know is stuck in stress, seeking clarity, or struggling to lead with grace. Forward it. Post it. Let them hear it.
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 28 May 2025 - 50min - 90 - 88. The Energy Advantage: Awaken the Power of Your Soul with Master Co
In this of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, Dwayne sits down with Master Stephen Co—engineer-turned-global-energy-healer—to discuss how ancient energy healing practices like Pranic Healing® can unlock peak performance, faster recovery, emotional balance, and even business success.
Dwayne shares intimate stories of miraculous healing, including a shredded ACL recovery in just five days—no surgery required. Together, they challenge skeptics, unpack the science behind energy work, and offer a practical path for the pragmatic leader. Whether you’re a high-achiever looking for an edge or simply seeking to reconnect with your intuition, this episode will stretch your mind and shift your energy.
This is the conversation that changed Dwayne’s life. It might just change yours, too.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 | Welcome + Why Master Co is one of Dwayne’s top influences
02:00 | From engineer to healer: Master Co’s origin story
06:30 | Everything is energy: defining prana, chi, and life force
09:30 | The healing that started it all—his wife’s broken hip
12:50 | “Life will give you what you’re willing to settle for.”
16:00 | Dwayne’s miracle ACL healing story
19:30 | Master Co on skeptical beginnings and the power of repetition
22:00 | A live demo: How to feel energy between your hands
27:30 | Dwayne’s first energetic “push” moment in Hawaii
30:00 | Types of energy: Earth, air, spiritual—how to use each one
33:00 | Why healthy skepticism is essential in spiritual work
36:30 | From side hustle to global teacher: The business side of healing
41:00 | How we block our own healing (and success)
45:00 | Releasing stored emotional pain in the energy body
47:30 | Empowerment vs. dependency: teaching people to heal themselves
49:00 | Teaser for Part 2: It gets deeper—bring your boots
NOTABLE QUOTES
“Life will give you what you’re willing to settle for.” – Master Co
“Healing isn’t a miracle—it’s a method. And everyone can learn it.” – Master Co
“My emotional home used to be anger. Energy work reconnected me to my soul.” – Dwayne Kerrigan
RESOURCES & MENTIONS
Master Co’s Books:
Your Hands Can Heal YouThe Power of Pranahttps://www.masterco.org/KEY TAKEAWAYS FOR BUSINESS LEADERS
Peak performance starts with your energy field. Learn how unblocking emotional and physical energy translates to more clarity, leadership, and connection in your business.Healing isn’t woo—it’s repeatable. Like a recipe, Pranic Healing offers step-by-step protocols grounded in logic and years of results.Your greatest resource is within. Don’t outsource your well-being. Learn to self-regulate, self-heal, and stay energetically aligned.Service creates prosperity. “As you focus on serving others, your own needs will be met.” This principle applies in healing and business.Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 21 May 2025 - 50min - 89 - 87. Real Estate, Recessions, and Smart Investing with Jaime McKenna
In this powerhouse follow-up episode, Jaime McKenna, President at Fengate Real Estate, returns to unpack the intersection of leadership, housing economics, and strategic foresight in times of uncertainty. She candidly reflects on navigating imposter syndrome, the true nature of financial literacy, and the real estate crisis threatening Canada’s future. From affordable housing and capital flow challenges to why boring businesses often win — this episode delivers practical, hard-earned wisdom for young professionals, seasoned investors, and business owners alike.
Timestamps:
00:00 — Opening quote: The master in the art of living
01:45 — The power of purpose and leading in male-dominated industries
03:00 — Battling imposter syndrome and the myth of the perfect path
05:30 — Why flexibility and awareness win in uncertain times
07:00 — Moving forward in a spin cycle of rhetoric and judgment
10:00 — Capital tightness and real estate development under pressure
12:45 — Canada’s looming housing catastrophe: What’s ahead
16:00 — Why Fengate shifted from condos to high-rise rental apartments
18:45 — Gen Z & Millennials: Renting by choice, not failure
22:00 — Real estate vs. luxury consumption: A Chanel purse lesson
26:30 — Three levels of housing reform Canada urgently needs
29:00 — The broken municipal approval system and hidden costs
33:00 — Is now the time to buy condos? The case for discounted inventory
39:00 — Investing strategies: Seniors housing, data centers, industrial space
42:00 — Apartment cap rates explained — and how to win with vanilla investments
49:00 — Renovate vs. build: When spiffing up isn’t worth the risk
53:00 — How tariffs and global instability are reshaping the market
56:30 — The danger of complacency and Canada’s productivity dilemma
1:03:00 — Is a majority government the only way forward?
1:09:00 — The final word on resilience, leadership, and gratitude for the journey
Notable Quotes:
“Courage doesn’t mean you know you’ll be right — it means you act anyway.”
— Dwayne Kerrigan
“The goal isn’t to eliminate problems. The goal is to upgrade the quality of your problems.”
— Dwayne Kerrigan
“Every square of adversity is a part of the quilt of your life.”
— Jaime McKenna
Key Takeaways & Resources:
Adaptability Over Strength: In today’s market, it’s not survival of the fittest — it’s survival of the most flexible.Imposter Syndrome Is Universal: Even top executives question their path. Keep building, one block at a time.Now is the Window: With capital tight and developers frozen, long-term thinkers can seize undervalued condo opportunities.Housing: From Crisis to Catastrophe: Supply is frozen while demand climbs. The next 3–5 years may be pivotal.Boring Wins: Apartments and industrial space may lack flash but offer stability and strategic growth.Real Estate ≠ Quick Cash: Real value lies in patience, planning, and resisting shiny object syndrome.Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 14 May 2025 - 1h 12min - 88 - 86. The Art of Living, Leading, and Letting Go with Jaime McKenna
In this deeply candid and inspiring Part 1 of their conversation, Dwayne sits down with Jaime McKenna — President of Real Estate at Fengate Asset Management — for a raw, no-filter look at what it takes to go from near-poverty to managing billions. Jaime shares the deeply personal story of losing everything in her university years, climbing out of debt, overcoming imposter syndrome, and redefining leadership in a high-stakes, male-dominated industry. If you’ve ever doubted your path or wondered how top leaders push forward through fear, shame, and uncertainty — this is your episode.
Timestamps:
00:00 — Why Jaime shares her story: The power of shedding shame
02:00 — A breakdown of Jaime’s career and early hardships
05:00 — The root of her humility and difficulty with compliments
09:30 — How fear of scarcity became fuel for her success
14:30 — Tuna cans, $7 haircuts & the truth behind survival mode
18:00 — Baby steps, big vision: The method behind her comeback
23:00 — Creating vision when no one else is coaching you
26:00 — Studying for a CPA with VHS tapes & Swiss Chalet
30:00 — Why discipline is the real secret weapon (not motivation)
34:00 — Work-life integration, not balance
38:00 — Vulnerability and the power of human leadership
44:00 — What Jaime looks for when building elite teams
50:00 — Leadership through transitions and letting people go
55:00 — Be nice, be direct: How to lead with both heart and clarity
1:03:00 — Real workaholism vs. the art of joyful, purposeful work
1:08:00 — The power of breathwork and managing internal pressure
1:18:00 — Jaime’s battle with anxiety after the loss of her mom
1:28:00 — Rebuilding mentally, emotionally, and spiritually
1:35:00 — Rewriting identity, leading with heart, and shedding the labels
Notable Quotes:
“That fear of having nothing never left me — and it still drives me today.” — Jaime McKenna
“If you’re not uncomfortable, you’re not growing. That’s your cue to step up.” — Jaime McKenna
“Discipline isn’t punishment. It’s a gift. It’s how I get my freedom.” — Jaime McKenna
Key Takeaways & Resources:
Jaime’s story shows that a successful life and career can be built without family wealth or connections — but it takes relentless discipline.Massive transformation begins with small, consistent steps — not instant miracles.Jaime outworked, out-disciplined, and outlasted many who may have started with more.The most effective leaders are those willing to show their human side.Jaime’s breakdown after her mother’s death led to a breakthrough that reshaped her approach to leadership.Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 07 May 2025 - 1h 40min - 87 - 85. From Economic Uncertainty to Strategic Opportunity with Karl Tabbakh
In Part 2 of this candid global conversation, Karl Tabbakh returns to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast to pull back the curtain on the economic uncertainty that’s gripping both Canada and the U.S.—and what business leaders need to do about it.
Dwayne and Karl dissect the real cost of tariffs, the psychological divide between the “haves” and “have nots,” and what a future recession could mean for Canadian competitiveness. They challenge leaders to rethink productivity, wealth distribution, and their own growth mindset in a time of instability.
From political coalitions to personal responsibility, Karl doesn’t hold back. If you’re in business today, this episode is your compass in the chaos.
Timestamps
[00:01:00] – The danger of coalitions and the question of democratic representation
[00:04:30] – Program creation vs. program funding: Canada’s economic blind spot
[00:08:30] – Do we have the GDP to fund the lifestyle we promise?
[00:10:00] – Why Canada’s mindset around growth is dangerously passive
[00:13:30] – Who really pays the tariffs—and why they’re hidden taxes
[00:17:30] – Are tariffs a strategy or political theatre? Dissecting Trump’s leverage
[00:24:00] – The “Somewheres” vs. “Nowheres”: Stephen Harper’s cultural divide explained
[00:27:00] – The information echo chamber: Why we don’t see disruption coming
[00:29:00] – Education, taxation, and why we must fix the divide
[00:36:00] – Capitalism’s existential threat: What happens when the system loses balance
[00:43:30] – CEO pay, productivity, and compensation in a modern economy
[00:48:00] – Catching a falling knife: Should you invest in uncertain times?
[00:52:00] – When clarity returns, capital will too: Preparing for the rebound
[00:57:00] – The world is better than you think—but you have to choose that lens
[00:59:00] – Final message: Educate yourself. Lead with purpose. Elevate others.
About Karl Tabbakh
Karl Tabbakh is a lawyer, a business leader and a strategic advisor with over 20 years of international business experience. Karl’s expertise is sought after to advise corporations, directors and business executives on a range of strategic issues and transactions both domestically and globally. He is a partner at McCarthy Tétrault LLP with a focus on M&A and private equity and serves on the firm’s Senior Leadership Team as National Leader, Markets and International Business. He was appointed by the Government of Canada as Chairman of Invest in Canada, Canada’s agency responsible for promoting, attracting and facilitating global foreign direct investments into Canada. He previously served as Chair of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce and was on the Board of directors of the Canada Arab Business Council. Karl is a regular speaker on matters of governance, global investment and mergers and acquisitions. In addition to his career in Canada, Karl spent eight years in the Middle East and four years in London, UK, where he developed a solid international network and gained an understanding of international business and investments. An active community leader, Karl supports and leverages his network to benefit many non-profit and local community service organizations, including as member of the Centraide/United Way campaign. Born in Syria, Karl immigrated with his parents to Canada at age 10. He holds an LLB from Osgoode Hall Law School in Toronto, a BCL from the Université de Montréal and a B.Comm from Université Laval in Québec City. Karl is fluent in French, English, and Arabic.
Notable Quotes
“Imposing a tariff isn’t tax revenue. It’s a tax on your people. And I don’t think Canadians can bear more taxation.” — Karl Tabbakh
“Business leaders now need a new set of skills they didn’t think they’d need. Understanding geopolitics is no longer optional.” — Karl Tabbakh
“We’re not in the good old days—but we are in the best time in history. The challenge is seeing it through the noise.” — Karl Tabbakh
“Growth lives in uncertainty. As business leaders, we need to stop looking for safety and start preparing for opportunity.” — Dwayne Kerrigan
“You can’t catch a falling knife. But you can be ready for when it hits the floor.” — Karl Tabbakh
Key Takeaways & Resources
1. Tariffs Are Hidden Taxes on the People
Don’t be fooled—tariffs may sound like strategy, but they land hardest on end users. Inflationary effects and economic drag are real.
2. Program Spending Without Productivity Is a Dangerous Illusion
Canada must generate more wealth before it promises more social services. Creating programs is easy. Funding them is the hard part.
3. The Somewhere vs. Nowhere Divide Is Widening
Karl shares Stephen Harper’s “Two Canadas” concept. Global elites share more in common with each other than with their neighbors. That gap threatens unity and trust.
4. Business Leaders Must Think Politically—Now
Today’s leaders need to track geopolitics, elections, and economic policy the way they track revenue and operations. Your business is no longer immune.
5. Recession Risks Are Real—But So Is Opportunity
Capital is sitting on the sidelines. Prepare now with strong balance sheets, smart partnerships, and scenario planning. Be ready to move when clarity returns.
6. We’re Living in the Best Time in History—Despite the Headlines
Perspective is everything. Health, connectivity, longevity, and access to knowledge have never been better. But fear sells more than facts.
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 30 Apr 2025 - 1h 01min - 86 - 84. Business in an Uncertain World: A Candid Conversation with Karl Tabbakh
In one of the most urgent and eye-opening conversation, Dwayne sits down with Karl Tabbakh—top Canadian business strategist, international dealmaker, and former chair of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce—to unpack the global forces redefining the rules of business, politics, and leadership.
Together, they explore what rising geopolitical tension, fractured trade alliances, and shifting world orders mean for entrepreneurs, CEOs, and decision-makers across North America. With experience advising on multi-billion-dollar cross-border transactions and leading strategic investments in Canada and the Middle East, Karl offers a rare lens into how to stay sharp—and sane—in chaotic times.
This is part one of a two-part conversation filled with powerful insights on resilience, globalism, and the responsibilities of leadership in the modern era.
Timestamps
[00:02:45] – Why Karl was the first person Dwayne thought of for this global conversation
[00:05:20] – Karl’s career snapshot: from billion-dollar deals to chairing Invest in Canada
[00:09:45] – A five-year vision framework for career growth and avoiding professional stagnation
[00:13:00] – Why global exposure isn't just travel—it’s transformational for decision-making
[00:17:30] – The danger of only seeing the world through a North American lens
[00:21:00] – Are we ignoring the signs of World War III? The breakdown of the post-WWII order
[00:25:30] – What the markets are really saying about uncertainty and leadership
[00:33:45] – Are nations acting out of fear, or a thirst for certainty?
[00:40:00] – Why Canada must rethink its overreliance on one trade partner
[00:52:00] – The hard truth about energy, natural gas, and global climate equity
[01:03:00] – The upcoming Canadian election: What voters need to be asking
[01:11:00] – Vision, will, and resources: Three pillars for Canada’s next leader
[01:15:00] – Final thoughts: Canada’s opportunity to punch above its weight again
About Karl
Karl Tabbakh is a lawyer, a business leader and a strategic advisor with over 20 years of international business experience. Karl’s expertise is sought after to advise corporations, directors and business executives on a range of strategic issues and transactions both domestically and globally. He is a partner at McCarthy Tétrault LLP with a focus on M&A and private equity and serves on the firm’s Senior Leadership Team as National Leader, Markets and International Business. He was appointed by the Government of Canada as Chairman of Invest in Canada, Canada’s agency responsible for promoting, attracting and facilitating global foreign direct investments into Canada. He previously served as Chair of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce and was on the Board of directors of the Canada Arab Business Council. Karl is a regular speaker on matters of governance, global investment and mergers and acquisitions. In addition to his career in Canada, Karl spent eight years in the Middle East and four years in London, UK, where he developed a solid international network and gained an understanding of international business and investments. An active community leader, Karl supports and leverages his network to benefit many non-profit and local community service organizations, including as member of the Centraide/United Way campaign. Born in Syria, Karl immigrated with his parents to Canada at age 10. He holds an LLB from Osgoode Hall Law School in Toronto, a BCL from the Université de Montréal and a B.Comm from Université Laval in Québec City. Karl is fluent in French, English, and Arabic.
Notable Quotes
“If World War III starts, historians will look at this moment and say: all the signs were there.” – Karl Tabbakh
“Business is a series of relationships. The same principles that heal marriages can heal nations.” – Dwayne Kerrigan
“We’re not saying there will be war. We’re saying the rules are changing—and business can’t afford to ignore that.” – Karl Tabbakh
“The future belongs to those who can see the world through more than one lens.” – Karl Tabbakh
Key Takeaways & Resources
1. Five-Year Framework for Career Clarity
Discussions on view your professional growth in 3–5 year increments. If you're not growing or being challenged, it may be time to pivot.
2. Global Perspective is a Strategic Advantage
Living, not just traveling, in different cultures gives professionals the multi-angle lens needed for today’s complex challenges.
3. A Shifting World Order Demands Adaptation
Post-WWII rules of sovereignty and treaty-based certainty are being challenged. Businesses relying on geopolitical stability must rethink their risk.
4. Energy Policy Must Balance Morality and Realism
Karl challenges ideological energy policy, urging a globalist view that supports cleaner transitions for developing nations.
6. Voters Must Demand Vision, Not Just Opposition
As Canada approaches an election, the critical question isn’t who can stand up to Trump—but who can chart a sustainable, strategic path forward.
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 23 Apr 2025 - 1h 16min - 85 - 83. Digital Traffic Mastery: Jeni Hott on Building Systems & Freedom-First Business Models
In this bonus Q and A, Jeni Hott sits down with longtime friends to unpack the evolution of online entrepreneurship—from the early days of AOL chat rooms to today's AI-powered marketing tools. Jeni breaks down the four major business models she’s worked in, why she avoids ads (still!), and how she builds evergreen, automated systems that run themselves for months at a time.
She shares how she chooses which ideas to pursue, why traffic is everything, and how she’s used the same core strategies for over two decades across wildly different businesses—from art to education to (soon) a day-trading firm. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by options or unsure how to structure your online presence, this episode is your roadmap to clarity and freedom.
Learn more https://brilliantetc.com/
Timestamps:
00:00 – Jeni crashes the podcast with surprise insights!
01:00 – Kim Burke asks: How has Jeni’s revenue model evolved?
02:30 – The 4 Online Business Models and why Jeni avoids some of them
04:00 – 100M+ organic blog visits and never using paid ads
05:30 – “Set it and rest” marketing: Why Jeni loves YouTube, blogging & Pinterest
07:00 – Don’t do what they say you “have” to do—unless it’s aligned
08:30 – How Jeni decides what businesses or models to pursue
10:00 – From selling seeds on AOL to building automated funnels
12:00 – Capture → Engage → Convert: Timeless strategy in any era
14:00 – The surprising risk Jeni always checks before starting something new
16:00 – Revenue always comes from products, not just traffic
18:00 – Why learning how to capture attention is the skill that multiplies everything
19:30 – Dwayne’s unexpected pivot to podcasting and building online reach
21:00 – Why you don’t need to know what you’re doing to start
23:00 – Jeni’s crash-course in learning how to coach 80 people at once
25:00 – Real leverage: getting paid to practice and having skin in the game
26:30 – The power of mindset, fast feedback loops, and action over perfection
28:00 – Google vs. Instagram vs. Facebook: Which traffic platforms do what?
29:30 – Blogging strategy: Pillar posts vs. supporting content
31:00 – Why over-optimizing for SEO can hurt performance
33:00 – Turn your profiles into funnels and lead people step-by-step
35:00 – Subtle marketing psychology: name placement, repetition, familiarity
36:30 – The rising role of instinct-driven selling (especially among women entrepreneurs)
38:00 – Men vs. women in marketing: how coaching and communication differ
39:00 – Wrap-up and reflections on the podcast’s ripple effect
Notable Quotes:
"You never have to do anything you don’t want to do to build a successful business."
"Everything I do is based on one question: Can I set this up and not touch it for 3–4 months?"
"It’s never the product—it’s how you get people in front of the product."
"You don’t need to know everything to start. You’ll learn faster after you begin."
"Confused people don’t buy. Lead them step by step with clear direction."
Mindset & Decision Filters:
Ask yourself:Do I actually want to do this?Will it serve people?Can I automate and step away from it?Will it increase stress or peace in my life?Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 16 Apr 2025 - 39min - 84 - 82. High-Converting Simplicity: Jeni Hott on Marketing Mindset, Funnels, and Future-Proofing with AI
In Part 2 of this powerful series, Jeni Hott and host Dwayne Kerrigan dive deep into the mindset and mechanics behind magnetic marketing. Jeni unpacks why traditional strategies fail, how to simplify your sales funnel, and how to shift from desperation to authority in your messaging. She breaks down the types of social media posts that actually convert, explains her timeline-based client targeting strategy, and shares how to create a "content vault" that makes your marketing repeatable and scalable.
Jeni also addresses the rise of AI and how business owners can use ChatGPT and custom GPTs to build systems, streamline operations, and reclaim their time—without losing their personal touch.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Marketing from angst vs. marketing from leadership
02:30 – Understanding "objection posts" and sales page content
05:00 – FAB (Features, Advantages, Benefits) and storytelling in marketing
07:30 – Jeni’s “client timeline” strategy vs. the traditional avatar model
10:00 – The power of targeting tipping points for high-converting offers
12:00 – Why you don’t need to convince when you're speaking with conviction
13:30 – Building a content vault to reflect customer buying moments
15:00 – Creating a seasonal content calendar that predicts conversions
16:30 – Should a VA or OBM manage your social content? Yes—if trained well
18:30 – The danger of hiring without understanding the basics
20:00 – The Time Rich program and its holistic business foundations
23:30 – Embracing social media instead of avoiding it
26:00 – Staying in your lane and not chasing online trends
29:00 – Avoiding distractions: Focus on purpose, not reaction
31:00 – AI tools: ChatGPT, Poe, custom GPTs & what's coming next
35:00 – Household bots & humanoid robotics on the near horizon
38:00 – How to create a custom GPT tailored to your business
42:00 – AI learning and the “unconscious competence” advantage
45:00 – Singularity and AI as human evolution, not a threat
47:00 – Algorithm hacks vs. adding true value to your audience
50:00 – Using engagement posts to boost algorithm reach
53:00 – How to analyze comments and reels with ChatGPT
55:30 – Scraping content and training AI on what’s working
58:00 – 6 key post types and why simplicity wins in content strategy
01:01:00 – Final thoughts: embrace, optimize, empower your team
Notable Quotes:
"You don’t need to convince when you come from conviction. That’s when magic happens."
"Most people aren’t your ideal client—they’re just not far enough along the timeline yet."
"Complexity is the enemy of execution. Simplify, then scale."
"AI is not going away. You don’t need to master it overnight, but you do need to start."
"Your people can’t help you scale unless you empower them with knowledge and tools."
Valuable Resources & Takeaways:
Core Post Types Jeni Recommends:
Value PostsObjection PostsStory PostsEngagement PostsProblem Awareness PostsAI Tools Mentioned:
ChatGPT – Jeni’s favorite tool for custom GPT creation and business system building Poe – Alternate AI tool used by many entrepreneursCustom GPTs – Can be trained to match your brand voice, content style, and business needsKate Nash's Free Training – Great for building your own GPTsVoice-to-Text & Prompting – Use spoken inputs to streamline and accelerate AI useBusiness Programs:
Time Rich – Jeni’s holistic program for building scalable, passive income businessesSmart Success Facebook Group – For live Q&A, free trainings, and community supportBig Concepts to Implement:
Build a vault of high-performing posts based on real engagementSpeak to tipping points, not just demographicsScrape comments and analyze content with ChatGPTBuild a content calendar tied to seasonal conversionsHire for competence, but lead with understandingStay focused on serving, not keeping up with trendsUse AI to train assistants, create content, and plan strategyConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Website: http://www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 09 Apr 2025 - 1h 06min - 83 - 81. Legacy, Leadership & Letting Go: Jeni Hott on Mindset, AI, and Meaningful Entrepreneurship
In this deeply inspiring and wide-ranging episode, Dwayne sits down with digital pioneer and serial entrepreneur Jeni Hott. What starts as a casual catch-up unfolds into a powerful conversation about life transitions, emotional intelligence, mindset mastery, and the future of business. Jeni shares her spontaneous decision to uproot her life, her son’s incredible generosity, and the legacy we leave behind—not just in business, but in how we live. They also dive into leadership identity shifts, how to handle negativity in business, and why embracing AI is not optional but essential.
Whether you're a new entrepreneur or a seasoned leader navigating uncertainty, this episode is packed with wisdom, heart, and actionable insight.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Opening remarks and the chaos of moving
02:00 – Jeni’s health scare and the wake-up call from the universe
04:00 – Giving everything away: a touching story of legacy and generosity
06:30 – Joy in everyday moments and the theme of intentional kindness
09:00 – Why business is always about relationships
10:30 – Introducing Jeni: Her trailblazing blogging success and career highlights
12:00 – From nursing to naturopathic doctorate to entrepreneurship
13:30 – The underestimated power of mindset in business
15:00 – Scarcity vs abundance: where business owners get stuck
17:00 – The identity shift from entrepreneur to leader
21:30 – What defines a true leader and how to grow into it
24:00 – Releasing limiting beliefs: The Sedona Method & Hale Dwoskin
28:00 – Observing vs suppressing emotion in entrepreneurship
30:00 – Waking Up app by Sam Harris & third-party mindfulness tools
32:00 – Business mindset vs strategy: finding balance
33:30 – Entering the AI Era: Why business owners must adapt
36:00 – Breaking down AI in simple terms (ChatGPT, GPTs, LLMs)
42:00 – Creating your own company-specific GPT (custom AI tools)
48:00 – Instructional designers & the future of team training
53:00 – How to simplify your operations with AI + training systems
56:00 – Hiring a VA and the stages of team evolution
1:01:00 – Keeping it lean: How Jeni ran a 7-figure business with minimal staff
Notable Quotes:
“Legacy is when you pass on that mission, that purpose, and that generosity. That’s what life is really about.”
“If it doesn’t feel good, it’s probably not true. Most of your limiting beliefs are just your brain trying to keep you comfortable.”
“Every entrepreneur hits that point where they must decide: will I be the bottleneck or the breakthrough?”
“AI isn’t replacing you—it’s extending your potential.”
“You don’t need a massive team to be massively successful. You need systems that work.”
Valuable Resources & Takeaways:
Mindset Tools:
The Sedona Method (Hale Dwoskin)Waking Up app (Sam Harris)"Do the Work" App (Marie Hayes)AI & Business Tools:
ChatGPT & Custom GPTsInstructional Design Support: Kate NashOBM & VA Hiring: MaryRose Speed’s VA AcademyOnline Business Structure: Time Rich Program by Jeni HottConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 - 1h 28min - 82 - 80. Unbreakable: Surviving the Fall, Rising Stronger with Emily Williams
In Part 2 of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast with Emily Williams, we continue the gripping story of her fall and her inspiring rise. After leaving a toxic relationship, Emily found herself homeless. Through the depths of addiction, she reached a turning point—choosing sobriety and a fresh start. This episode delves into the hard truths of addiction, the power of structured recovery, and the mental strength required to rebuild a shattered life. Just when she thought she had overcome the hardest challenges, a devastating accident left her with a broken neck—the same injury that paralyzed Christopher Reeve. Against all odds, Emily survived and, through sheer determination, found her way back to the sport she loves.
Her story is one of resilience, personal accountability, and the unwavering belief that even from the lowest points, we can rise again.
Timestamps:
[00:00:00] – Introduction and recap of Part 1
[00:02:00] – Homelessness and living in psychosis after leaving her relationship
[00:04:00] – Arrested while in a delusional state and the shocking credit card charges
[00:06:00] – Voices in her head: The terrifying psychosis fueled by addiction
[00:08:00] – The transition from a mental hospital to rehab
[00:10:00] – Sober living: The structure that saved her life
[00:13:00] – Learning responsibility, humility, and discipline in sobriety
[00:17:00] – Managing expectations, avoiding victim mentality, and taking ownership
[00:20:00] – The importance of purpose and self-belief in recovery
[00:23:00] – The accident: A near-fatal fall that broke her neck
[00:27:00] – Learning to navigate sobriety while managing severe pain
[00:30:00] – Facing judgment and proving herself again in the equestrian world
[00:35:00] – Teaching, coaching, and rediscovering her passion for horses
[00:40:00] – Handling criticism and learning not to care about what others think
[00:45:00] – Finding gratitude, purpose, and a new outlook on life
[00:47:00] – Where to find Emily and how to reach out for help
Notable Quotes:
"I had hit rock bottom so many times, I didn’t even realize how far I had fallen." – Emily Williams
"I wasn’t just struggling with addiction—I was battling my own mind." – Emily Williams
"You can’t fix a problem until you stop running from it." – Emily Williams
"No one chose to put drugs in me but me. No one kept me in a bad relationship but me. I had to take responsibility for my own choices." – Emily Williams
"I thought my life was over, but then I realized I had been given another chance to write a new story." – Emily Williams
Mental Health & Addiction Support:
SAMHSA’s National Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP or www.samhsa.govNational Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI): www.nami.orgAlcoholics Anonymous (AA) & Narcotics Anonymous (NA): www.aa.org | www.na.orgFollow & Connect with Emily Williams: Instagram: @therealemilywilliams
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 26 Mar 2025 - 49min - 81 - 79. Riding High, Falling Hard, Rising Strong: Emily Williams’ Story of Loss, Addiction, and Redemption
In this deeply moving episode, Dwayne sits down with Emily Williams to explore her remarkable story. Once a rising star in the equestrian world, Emily's life took a devastating turn following the loss of her mother. Battling grief, addiction, and an abusive relationship, she faced homelessness and despair before making a courageous decision to reclaim her life. This candid conversation delves into the emotional depths of her struggles, the impact of shame and guilt, and the strength it takes to rebuild. Listeners will gain insight into addiction, loss, resilience, and the importance of self-awareness in overcoming personal battles. Emily's story is a powerful testament to the human spirit's ability to rise, fall, and rise again.
Timestamps:
[00:00:00] – Introduction to the episode and guest, Emily Williams
[00:01:30] –Dwayne shares how he discovered Emily’s story
[00:03:00] – The connection between business, relationships, and personal struggles
[00:06:00] – Emily’s early success: A prodigy in the equestrian world
[00:08:00] – The loss of her mother and the emotional impact
[00:10:00] – The beginning of addiction: Partying, Adderall, and grief-driven rebellion
[00:14:00] – The transition from discipline to self-destruction
[00:17:00] – Losing responsibility and how it accelerates addiction
[00:22:00] – Dropping out of school and falling into the party lifestyle
[00:25:00] – Shame, guilt, and feeling undeserving of redemption
[00:32:00] – A toxic relationship: Drug use, manipulation, and emotional control
[00:39:00] – The descent into meth use and how it rewires the brain
[00:42:00] – The breaking point: Walking away from addiction and an abusive relationship
[00:47:00] – Narcissism, control, and the power of saying ‘no’
[00:48:30] – Teaser for next week’s continuation of Emily’s journey
Notable Quotes:
"Sometimes the most challenging situations are what we learn the most from." – Emily Williams"I felt so small… I had to lie to myself to be okay with who I was, but I wasn’t okay." – Emily WilliamsResources & Mentions:
Books: The Coddling of the American Mind – Jonathan Haidt & Greg LukianoffMental Health & Addiction Support:National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA): www.drugabuse.govSAMHSA’s National Helpline: www.samhsa.gov or call 1-800-662-HELPNarcotics Anonymous (NA): www.na.orgConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 19 Mar 2025 - 49min - 80 - 78. The Power of Joy: Perspective, Purpose, and Pushing Forward with Jessica Janzen (Part 2)
In this powerful continuation of our conversation with Jessica Janzen, author of Bring the Joy, we dive deeper into the transformational power of perspective, purpose, and resilience. Jessica shares deeply personal stories about finding gratitude in everyday struggles, embracing life's "nudges," and how shifting our mindset can unlock joy—even in our darkest moments. We discuss how to reframe challenges, the importance of energy management, and the impact of small, intentional actions. Jessica also offers insight into personal growth, mental health, and the balance between ambition and presence. If you're seeking to cultivate more joy in your life or help others do the same, this episode is a must-listen!
Timestamps:
[00:00:00] – Introduction & Recap of Part 1
[00:01:00] – Overcoming resistance to joy and reframing daily struggles
[00:02:30] – The dishwasher story: Perspective shift from burden to blessing
[00:05:00] – The power of certainty and how small moments shape our purpose
[00:08:00] – Following nudges
[00:12:00] – Faith, purpose, and the role of free will in shaping our experiences
[00:14:00] – Society’s obsession with immediacy vs. the power of consistency
[00:16:00] – Transforming grief into purpose: Love for Lewiston Foundation
[00:19:00] – The energy we bring: The impact of our presence on those around us
[00:22:00] – Supporting others through hardship: The power of simply being there
[00:24:00] – Strategies for recharging your battery: Emotional, spiritual, mental, and physical health
[00:29:00] – Small disciplines that build a foundation for joy
[00:32:00] – The danger of “should-ing” yourself and learning to say no
[00:36:00] – Thought patterns, rewiring the brain, and the science of manifestation
[00:42:00] – Finding joy in the present moment rather than chasing the next milestone
[00:47:00] – The impact of expectations and judgment on our ability to experience joy
[00:52:00] – How to identify and shift your primary question for a more joyful life
[00:56:00] – What’s it like to be on the other side of me? A powerful self-awareness question from Ryan Leak
[01:01:00] – Final reflections and Jessica’s resources for finding joy
[01:02:30] – How to connect with Jessica and support her work
Notable Quotes:
🔹 "You might not be able to change your circumstances, but you can change the outcome and what it looks like." – Jessica Janzen
🔹 "Joy doesn’t just arrive. It’s the combination of small choices and habits stacked over time." – Jessica Janzen
🔹 "We’ve over-romanticized purpose. What if your purpose is just to be kind because that’s what someone else needs?" – Jessica Janzen
🔹 "If you have the ability to move your body, do it. Someone in a hospital would give anything to walk to the end of the block." – Jessica Janzen
🔹 "What you resist most in others is what you have yet to accept in yourself." – Dwayne Kerrigan
🔹 "If this is all I get, I want to live a chapter worth rereading." – Jessica Janzen
🔹 "What’s it like to be on the other side of me?" – Ryan Leak (shared by Jessica)
Resources Mentioned:
📚 Bring the Joy – Jessica Janzen (Available on Amazon & Goodreads)
📚 Atlas of the Heart – Brené Brown
📚 Mind Magic: The Neuroscience of Manifestation – Dr. James Doty
📚 Level Up – Ryan Leak
📲 Instagram: @thejessicajanzen
🎗️ Love for Lewiston Foundation
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Wed, 12 Mar 2025 - 1h 03min - 79 - 77. Bring the Joy with Jessica Janzen
In this deeply moving and insightful episode of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, host Dwayne Kerrigan sits down with Jessica Janzen, a speaker, author, philanthropist, and coach who has dedicated her life to bringing the joy. Jessica shares her extraordinary journey of resilience—from experiencing bullying and battling mental health struggles to facing the heartbreaking loss of her son, Lewiston, to spinal muscular atrophy.
Despite unimaginable pain, Jessica embraced a mindset shift that led her to create the Love for Lewiston Foundation, raise over $3 million for research and support, and become a beacon of joy for others. Through this candid conversation, she and Dwayne explore the power of perspective, the importance of mental and physical health, and how choosing joy—even in the darkest times—can transform lives.
Join us as Jessica offers practical steps on how to build a life filled with meaning, connection, and purpose, whether in business or in personal life. Don’t press pause on this one—this episode is packed with invaluable wisdom that can truly change the way you approach challenges.
Timestamps & Key Moments:
[00:00:00] – Jessica’s philosophy: “Instead of a pity party, we had a dance party.”.
[00:05:00] – Jessica’s journey: From struggling in school to building an impact-driven life.
[00:09:00] – The moment everything changed: Lewiston’s diagnosis and Jessica’s decision to “bring the joy.”
[00:14:00] – Lessons in perspective: The profound realization that movement and health are gifts.
[00:18:00] – Rewriting your story: How Jessica reinvented herself after years of feeling like she didn’t belong.
[00:25:00] – The power of energy: How showing up authentically transforms connections and opportunities.
[00:30:00] – The role of fitness in mental and emotional well-being.
[00:37:00] – Serving others: How helping someone else can shift your entire mindset.
[00:42:00] – The battle with negative thoughts: How our brains search for evidence and how to train them differently.
[00:50:00] – One powerful question to change your mindset before bed: "What worked today?"
[00:54:00] – Finding purpose in the smallest things—why joy is often found in the ordinary.
[01:00:00] – Final thoughts: The importance of perspective and gratitude in business and life.
Notable Quotes:
“It takes just as much time to see the good as it does to see the bad.” – Jessica Janzen
“If you feel like you don’t belong, start showing up as the person you want to be around.” – Jessica Janzen
Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
📖 Jessica Janzen’s Book – Bring the Joy https://a.co/d/d9P4u75
📚 Book Recommendation
Change Your Brain Every Day by Dr. Daniel Amen https://a.co/d/3XWVP1N
Leveling Up by Ryan Leak https://a.co/d/3XWVP1N
🏥 Jessica’s Nonprofit – Love for Lewiston Foundation (Supporting SMA research and families) https://www.loveforlewiston.com/
If you found value in this episode, please share it with someone who could benefit from Jessica’s incredible story. Subscribe to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for Part 2 of this conversation, where we’ll dive even deeper into the ways joy can fuel success in business and life.
🎧 Listen next week for Part 2!
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 05 Mar 2025 - 1h 02min - 78 - 76. The Next Play Mentality with Alan Stein Jr.
In Part 2 of our conversation with Alan Stein Jr., we take a deep dive into elite performance principles that apply to business, sports, and life. Alan shares the three key pillars of success—mastering fundamentals, balancing confidence with humility, and focusing on the process over outcome. He also introduces the "Next Play Mentality", a game-changing mindset that helps high performers stay locked in, bounce back from setbacks, and consistently improve.
If you're struggling with execution, overcomplicating success, or letting past failures hold you back, this episode is packed with practical takeaways to help you move forward and level up.
Timestamps & Key Topics:
[00:00:00] Setting Big Goals Without Fear of Failure
Alan shares why he sets ambitious goals and is okay with missing themHow to reframe failure as a learning opportunity[00:02:00] The 3 Pillars of High Performance
1️Mastering the Fundamentals – Why the best never get bored with the basics
2️Confidence + Humility – Earn confidence through preparation, but stay coachable
3️Process Over Outcome – Stop obsessing over goals; focus on small daily actions
[00:06:00] Complexity Undermines Execution
Why making things too complicated leads to inactionHow simplifying habits (like a 15-minute walk) can lead to massive transformation[00:12:00] Why People Struggle to Execute Simple Actions
The comparison trap—why people set unrealistic goalsHow society sells complexity and why the basics aren’t monetizable[00:19:00] Want to Be Great? Do the Verb!
The difference between wanting success and doing the work"If you want to be an author, you have to write."[00:32:00] The "Next Play Mentality"
How elite athletes forget mistakes instantly and focus on executionWhy carrying negativity from past failures hurts future performanceHow business leaders and entrepreneurs can apply this to sales, leadership, and daily decisions[00:37:00] Next Play on a Macro Level: Life Transitions
Applying the next play mindset to career shifts, relationships, and setbacksMoving forward after adversity rather than dwelling on what’s lost[00:41:00] Final Thoughts & How to Connect with Alan
Why listening is the most underrated skill in business & relationshipsAlan shares how to reach out to him directlyKey Takeaways:
Simplicity wins. Complexity kills execution—the best stick to the basics.
Earn your confidence. Keep your humility. Preparation and self-discipline create real belief in yourself.
Focus on the process. Small daily actions lead to long-term success.
Next play. Stop dwelling on failures—focus on the next action that moves you forward.
Want to be great? Do the work. Success isn’t about wanting it, it’s about doing it consistently.
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 26 Feb 2025 - 42min - 77 - 75. Raise Your Game with Alan Stein Jr.
In this episode of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, Dwayne Kerrigan welcomes Alan Stein Jr., a former basketball performance coach turned corporate keynote speaker and author. Alan shares powerful insights from his journey, including lessons learned from working with elite athletes like Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, and Steph Curry, and how those lessons apply to business and life.
Alan and Dwayne dive deep into overcoming limiting beliefs, developing an abundance mindset, and shifting perspectives on failure. Alan also discusses his "new operating system" for success, blending confidence with humility, and why focusing on the fundamentals is key to high performance. Whether you're an entrepreneur, leader, or someone seeking personal growth, this episode offers actionable insights to elevate your game.
Timestamps & Key Discussion Points:
[00:00:00] – Introduction & Setting the Stage
Alan’s approach to setting lofty goals without fear of failureDwayne introduces Alan Stein Jr. and his impressive background[00:04:00] – The Power of Gratitude & Perspective
Alan reflects on his journey and why he believes his best days are aheadThe importance of constantly evolving in business and life[00:09:00] – Shifting from a Success Mindset to a Fulfillment Mindset
The transition from external validation to internal fulfillmentDefining success through quality of life, not just financial metrics[00:14:00] – Breaking Free from an Old Operating System
Alan's past struggles with a scarcity mindset, self-doubt, and limiting beliefsHow changing his approach to failure and setbacks changed his trajectory[00:22:00] – Scarcity vs. Abundance Mindset
The importance of surrounding yourself with the right peopleHow to cultivate an abundant mindset in business and personal life[00:30:00] – The Power of Curating Your Information Diet
How social media algorithms reflect your mindset and habitsTips for controlling your media consumption to improve mental health[00:39:00] – Lessons from Elite Athletes: The 3 Pillars of Success
- Mastering the Fundamentals – Why the best never get bored with the basicsBalancing Confidence & Humility – How great performers stay coachableProcess Over Outcome – The importance of focusing on small, daily actions
[00:43:00] – Closing Thoughts & Final Advice
How small mindset shifts can create massive long-term impactThe ripple effect of personal growth on those around youKey Takeaways:
- Reframe Failure as Growth – Instead of fearing failure, treat it as a learning opportunity.Develop an Abundance Mindset – Avoid limiting beliefs and surround yourself with people who uplift and inspire.Success is Built on Fundamentals – Whether in sports, business, or life, mastering the basics is the foundation of excellence.Focus on the Process, Not Just the Goal – Achievements come from consistently executing small, high-impact actions.Control Your Inputs – What you consume (books, social media, conversations) directly influences your mindset and success.
"The best never get bored with the basics." – Alan Stein Jr.
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 19 Feb 2025 - 44min - 76 - 74. From House Hacking to Mindset Mastery: Advanced Real Estate Investment Strategies
In this second part of the conversation with Rod Khleif, the discussion dives deeper into specific real estate investment strategies, the power of mindset in overcoming setbacks, and the importance of self-reflection in personal growth. Rod shares detailed insights about wholesaling, house hacking, and how young investors can get started in real estate. He also opens up about his personal journey of overcoming limiting beliefs and the specific steps he took to rebuild after losing $50 million in 2008.
Key Takeaways
- Entry strategies for young investors include wholesaling, house hacking, and starting with multi-unit propertiesThe importance of treating real estate investments as a business, not just property ownershipUnderstanding market research and demographics when choosing investment locationsThe power of conscious self-reflection in overcoming limiting beliefsSpecific steps for rebuilding after major setbacks: goal setting, decisive action, and gratitudeThe value of celebrating small wins and acknowledging progressUnderstanding the differences between residential and commercial financing
Timestamps
[00:00:00] - Introduction and discussion of first-time property investment
[00:01:00] - Explanation of wholesaling in real estate
[00:03:00] - Discussion of house hacking strategies
[00:06:00] - Market research and location selection tips
[00:09:00] - Property type considerations and investment strategy
[00:12:00] - Wealth building strategies through real estate
[00:15:00] - Rod's personal story of meeting the host
[00:17:00] - Discussion of mindset and overcoming obstacles
[00:20:00] - Deep dive into limiting beliefs and their origins
[00:24:00] - The importance of gratitude and self-reflection
[00:27:00] - Impact of limiting beliefs on business and personal life
[00:29:00] - Lessons learned from the 2008 crash
[00:34:00] - Final thoughts and contact information
Notable Quote
"If you can think as an investor on your first home and start your investment career, man, that's the way to go." - Rod Khleif
"Life is about meaning. It doesn't matter what happens to you. Two people can have the same seemingly horrific event happen to them, and one comes out stronger, and another one comes out destroyed." - Rod Khleif
"If you're not growing, you are dying. Period. If you're plateaued, you're dying. You need to be growing." - Rod Khleif
"You need to drag it [limiting beliefs] out into the daylight when it pops up. You need to consciously look at it. And if you do, you'll recognize that it's BS." - Rod Khleif
Resources Mentioned
RodsLinks.com - Hub for all resourceshttps://rodkhleif.com/Rod's Virtual Bootcamp (Code: RODFRIEND)Recommended Research Websites:bestplaces.netdatausa.iocitydata.comcensus.govBook Reference: "Think and Grow Rich" by Napoleon HillBook Reference: "The Richest Man in Babylon"Rod's Podcast: "Lifetime Cashflow through Real Estate Investing"Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 12 Feb 2025 - 37min - 75 - 73. Building Wealth Through Multifamily Real Estate: Lessons from Rod Khleif
In this episode, Dwayne sits down with Rod Khleif, a Dutch immigrant turned real estate mogul who has owned over 2,000 houses and thousands of apartment units. Rod shares his journey from humble beginnings to massive success, including losing $50 million in 2008 and rebuilding his empire. He provides valuable insights into multifamily real estate investing, the importance of mindset, and why giving back has been crucial to his success. The conversation covers everything from technical aspects of real estate investing to the psychological elements of success.
Learn more at https://rodkhleif.com/ and https://rodkhleif.com/links/
Key Takeaways
- Success is 80-90% mindset and psychologyMultifamily properties are valued based on net income, making them potentially more profitable than single-family homesDue diligence is critical - investigate thoroughly before investingReal estate investing is a team sport - different roles include analytics, relationship building, and asset managementEducation and mentorship are crucial - avoid "dabbling" in real estateCurrent market conditions (high interest rates, adjustable rate debt) are creating opportunities in multifamily real estateGiving back and creating value for others leads to greater success
Timestamps
[00:00:00] - Introduction and Rod's advice on investment education
[00:01:00] - Host introduction and welcoming Rod Khleif
[00:02:00] - Rod's background as a Dutch immigrant
[00:03:00] - Early real estate experience and mother's influence
[00:04:00] - Introduction to mindset importance and career progression
[00:05:00] - Discussion of 2008 losses and podcast success
[00:06:00] - Story about success, depression, and finding meaning
[00:08:00] - Discussion of charitable work and fulfillment
[00:14:00] - Information about Rod's bootcamp and resources
[00:22:00] - Discussion of real estate tax benefits and valuation
[00:27:00] - Explanation of cap rates and property classifications
[00:31:00] - Detailed coverage of due diligence process
[00:35:00] - Current market opportunities and challenges
[00:38:00] - Team roles in multifamily real estate [00:41:00] - Discussion of mentorship and education programs
[00:44:00] - Advice for young people entering real estate – learn more in Part 2 next week
Notable Quote
"Power moves to those who serve. When you have a sincere desire to help other people grow, power, you know, that's the way God or the universe, whatever you believe, that's how it works." - Rod Khleif
"Don't squander your money. Don't put your hard earned money into something unless you've done some basic due diligence about it." - Rod Khleif
"Sometimes the best deal is the one you don't do." - Rod Khleif
"There's a reason 90 percent of the world's millionaires either made their money in real estate or invested in real estate." - Rod Khleif
"If you're not giving back in some fashion, if you do give back in some fashion, you're happily achieving." - Rod Khleif
"We've been taught to achieve to be happy. Like we shouldn't be happy until we've achieved, but if you're not giving back in some fashion, if you do give back in some fashion, you're happily achieving." - Rod Khleif
Resources Mentioned
RodsLinks.com - Free resources and booksRod's Bootcamp (Code: RODFRIEND for $97 admission)Goal Setting WorkshopRod's Warrior Program (1,800+ members worldwide)Book: "How to Create Lifetime Cashflows in Multifamily Properties"Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-kerrigan-998113281/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedwaynekerriganpodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwaynekerriganpodcast/
Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 05 Feb 2025 - 47min - 74 - 72. From Vision to Exit: Business Growth and Sale Strategies with Mark Bradley
In this powerful episode, serial entrepreneur Mark Bradley shares his journey from tradesman to successful business owner, discussing the psychological aspects of selling a business, the importance of purpose, and strategic approaches to business growth and exit planning.
Episode Timeline
Introduction and Early Insights (00:00 - 05:00)
00:00 - Opening reflection on business growth and learning00:13 - Host Dwayne Kerrigan's introduction01:00 - Discussion on business metrics and simplification02:00 - The importance of business budgeting04:00 - Mark's background and entrepreneurial journeyBusiness Evolution and Growth (05:00 - 12:00)
05:00 - Discussion of personal growth in business07:00 - The importance of vision and goal setting08:00 - Finding mentors and building teams10:00 - Leadership philosophy and team building11:00 - The "C students hire A students" perspectiveBusiness Sale Experience (12:00 - 20:00)
12:00 - Psychological preparation for selling a business13:00 - Managing purpose post-sale15:00 - Dealing with team transitions17:00 - Finding the right buyer and CEO19:00 - Maintaining community connections post-saleStrategic Business Exit Planning (20:00 - 30:00)
20:00 - Common mistakes in business sales22:00 - Prioritizing stakeholders during sale24:00 - Private equity considerations27:00 - Discussion of earnouts and deal structures29:00 - Employee stock options as exit strategyMarket Trends and Opportunities (30:00 - 39:00)
30:00 - Private equity market evolution32:00 - Technology enablement in small businesses34:00 - Growth through acquisition strategies36:00 - Value creation through business combination38:00 - Final thoughts and episode wrap-upKey Takeaways
Business Fundamentals
The importance of understanding business metrics and budgetingSimplifying complex business concepts for better managementBuilding a strong financial foundation through systematic approachesGrowth Strategy
Creating clear vision and goals for business developmentThe value of finding and learning from mentorsImportance of building strong teams and delegating effectivelyExit Planning
Psychological preparation for business saleMaintaining purpose and direction post-saleConsidering all stakeholders in exit strategyEmployee stock options as alternative to private equityAcquisition Strategy
Understanding business valuation multiplesOpportunities in combining smaller businessesStrategic growth through acquisitionTechnology enablement as value driverLeadership Insights
Building purposeful business relationshipsCreating value through team developmentMaintaining mission alignment during transitionsBalancing financial and human aspects of businessAbout Mark Bradley
Mark Bradley is a successful entrepreneur who built and sold both a landscape company and a software business. Starting with just basic equipment, he grew his landscape business significantly before developing software solutions that eventually became a successful standalone company. His approach combines practical business experience with innovative technology solutions.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-bradley-lmn/
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 29 Jan 2025 - 39min - 73 - 71. Building and Selling a Successful Business with Mark Bradley
In this insightful episode, entrepreneur Mark Bradley shares his journey from running a landscaping business to developing and selling a successful software company. Learn about implementing balanced scorecards, preparing businesses for sale, and leveraging technology for operational excellence.
Episode Timeline
Introduction and Background (00:00 - 03:17)
00:00 - Episode introduction and balanced scorecard overview00:13 - Welcome00:46 - Introduction of guest Mark Bradley01:33 - Year in review discussion02:31 - Initial discussion about business sale experienceBuilding a Software Business (03:18 - 14:40)
03:18 - Journey from landscaping to software development05:56 - Key strategies for optimizing business valueDiscussion of scaling challenges and solutionsImportance of systematic growth approachesTechnology and Business Optimization (14:41 - 30:36)
14:41 - Technology's role in modern business operationsImplementation of digital solutionsFuture trends in business technologyIntegration of balanced scorecard methodologyStrategic Insights and Recommendations (30:37 - 40:11)
30:37 - Practical advice for small business ownersDiscussion of operational efficiencyTips for business value optimization40:11 - Closing thoughts and episode wrap-upKey Takeaways
Balanced Scorecard Implementation
Importance of measuring both financial and non-financial metricsIntegration of customer satisfaction metricsEmployee development and growth trackingOperational efficiency measurementsBusiness Sale Preparation
Strategic steps for maximizing business valueDocumentation and process standardizationImportant metrics buyers look forTiming considerations for saleTechnology Integration
Role of software in business optimizationDigital transformation strategiesOperational efficiency through technologyFuture technology trendsCustomer Experience Optimization
Measuring and improving customer satisfactionBuilding sustainable customer relationshipsBalance between efficiency and service qualityBusiness Growth Strategies
Scaling operations effectivelyBuilding valuable business assetsEmployee development importanceSustainable growth practicesAbout Mark Bradley
Mark Bradley is a serial entrepreneur who successfully transitioned from owning a landscaping business to developing and selling a software company. His software solution, originally designed for his landscaping business, grew into a successful standalone venture, demonstrating his ability to identify market needs and scale solutions effectively.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-bradley-lmn/
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Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 22 Jan 2025 - 41min - 72 - 70. Building a Scalable Business Machine: Lessons from a 12-Year Fastest Growing Company Winner
In this episode, Dwayne continues the conversation with Irfan Rajabali, a seasoned entrepreneur with a rich history of growth and success. They explore key entrepreneurial concepts such as continuous assessment and feedback loops, the importance of loving the process, internal and external alignment, handling business growth, and making strategic decisions. Irfan shares invaluable insights into maintaining family harmony in business, managing stress, and prioritizing reinvestment in the business for long-term success. The conversation underscores the importance of preparing for unforeseen challenges, staying nimble, and cultivating a passion for solving problems.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction and Business Evaluation
00:37 Meet Your Host: Dwayne Kerrigan
01:12 The Fun and Passion in Business
01:50 The Reality of Entrepreneurship
05:53 Balancing Work and Personal Life
07:21 The Importance of Mentorship
08:51 Aligning with Customers
10:10 Providing Additional Care
22:49 Internal Feedback and Continuous Improvement
34:27 Identifying the Real Problem: Process vs. People
35:32 Handling Business Downtime: Advice and Reflections
36:15 Transitioning Roles: From Operations to Strategy
41:32 Family Business Dynamics: Communication and Roles
47:27 Financial Discipline and Decision Making
53:25 Navigating Business Growth and Risks
57:21 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Key Takeaways
Focus on building systems and processes that can scale, rather than relying on individual heroicsReinvest profits back into the business rather than taking early distributionsMaintain a substantial war chest to weather economic downturnsCreate feedback loops between external customer needs and internal operationsMake quick but calculated decisions, avoiding analysis paralysisPrioritize process improvement over blame when mistakes happenNotable Quotes
"I fundamentally don't believe that when I hear it, but I hear that a lot because people are looking for some magical bean to pop up and say, Hey, perfect business."
"You control your effort and you control your attitude. When you leave my door, those two things are in your control."
"The first mistake is on us and it's just a process. There's no reason to get upset. Stay calm and let's just review."
"We look at our business on a horizon that's 10 years from now... Can shit hit the fan between now and 10 years? Yes. And we better be prepared."
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 15 Jan 2025 - 1h 06min - 71 - 69. Building a 12-Time Fastest Growing Company with Irfan Rajabali
In this podcast episode, Dwayne interviews Irfan Rajabali, from EB Box Company, about his journey from a corporate role to leading a family-owned business that became one of Canada's fastest-growing companies for 12 years in a row without a traditional sales team or a modern website. The discussion delves into key aspects of entrepreneurship, such as identifying market gaps, providing additional value, focusing on customer needs, and building scalable processes and teams. Rajabali shares insightful strategies for managing crises, emphasizing consistency, and continuously investing in technology and people to sustain growth. This episode offers an in-depth look at practical steps and mindset shifts necessary for business success, providing invaluable lessons for aspiring entrepreneurs and business owners.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:32 Meet Irfan Rajabali
02:26 Journey into the Family Business
05:13 Navigating the 2008 Financial Crisis
05:55 Focusing on the Food Sector
06:32 Delivering Value to Clients
09:37 Early Challenges and Consistency
16:50 Evaluating Risk and Reward
21:55 The Importance of Industry Size and Scalability
30:31 Organic Growth and Client Relationships
38:16 The Importance of Quality and Technology in Business
38:57 Unpacking the Success of a Sales-less Company
40:00 Transitioning to the Food Packaging Industry
41:15 Understanding Customer Needs and Optimizing Production
43:08 The Impact of Crisis on Business Strategy
44:45 Building a Customer-Centric Business Model
45:47 Scaling the Business: Processes and Teams
56:26 Investing in Technology and Equipment
01:07:51 The Entrepreneurial Journey and Business Philosophy
Key Takeaways
• The importance of identifying market gaps and delivering consistent value
• How to transition from a corporate career to running a family business
• Strategies for scaling a business without a traditional sales team
• The power of reinvesting profits for long-term growth
• Building a customer-centric business model in the packaging industry
Strategic Business Growth
Crisis-Driven Decision Making
Used the 2008 financial crisis as an opportunity to identify market needsRecognized that food industry remained stable during economic downturnsFocused on solving specific customer pain points in food packagingValue Creation Formula
Identified and filled gaps in service and deliveryMaintained 20% spare production capacity to handle urgent customer needsFocused on delivering all three elements: price, quality, and serviceCustomer-Centric Approach
Built direct relationships with customers as the business ownerProvided personal cell phone number to ensure immediate responseCreated systems to support consistent service deliveryScaling Methodology
Focused on removing internal bottlenecks before external growthInvested in technology and equipment that adds customer valueBuilt robust processes before expanding customer baseNotable Quotes
"Ultimately entrepreneurship, at least in my journey, was about showing up, about having some consistency, about understanding that problem and the values that existed."
"The box in and of itself is somewhat of a commodity. It was about delivering that value that allowed them to accept orders, to allow them to react to changes in the market that allowed them to grow."
"Being an entrepreneur is probably the most expensive MBA he could have paid for."
"I remember telling my wife, I'm going to close my eyes, put my head down and work at this till I'm 40."
"If you continue to do it and with your customer in mind and focused on the value that you were trying to create, the money sort of will come."
Business Growth Framework
- Crisis/Fear → DecisionSearch for the GapFill the GapProvide Customer CertaintyFocus Business on Singular PurposeBuild Machine to Scale:
Build TeamsIdentify ProcessesRemove BottlenecksAutomate Where PossibleMonitor Customer TransactionsContinuously Iterate and ImproveConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Wed, 08 Jan 2025 - 1h 16min - 70 - Looking Back and Looking Forward Part 4: Mind and Self Mastery and Leadership Evolution
As we stand at the threshold of a new year, what separates those who merely succeed from those who truly excel? How do we master ourselves before attempting to lead others?
Welcome to part 4 of our special series, in this section we're exploring the connection between self-mastery and leadership evolution - insights that couldn't be more timely as we look toward the year ahead.
First off, we'll explore the art of mind and self-mastery. At a time when many of us are setting resolutions and planning for the future, you'll hear from experts and practitioners who've discovered that true power comes not from controlling our environment, but from mastering our internal world. From understanding the three pillars of creation - thoughts, emotions, and actions - to developing real self-awareness, these conversations reveal practical wisdom for moving beyond reactivity to intentional response.
Mind and Self Mastery
Billy BeckEmma MurrayHeather MoyseDwayne KerriganDr Greg WellsJon ThurstonNow let’s explore leadership evolution. As organizations and teams plan for a new year of challenges and opportunities, our guests share raw insights about their evolution from technical experts to true leaders, revealing how vulnerability becomes strength, how mission focus shapes team dynamics, and why the best leaders never stop growing themselves first.
These conversations weave together to reveal a fundamental truth that's especially relevant as we begin a new chapter: you can't lead others until you can lead yourself. Whether you're working on personal growth or leading teams through change in the year ahead, these insights will challenge you to think differently about mastery, leadership, and the journey of continuous growth.
Leadership Evolution
Carrie KishRich DivinneyDr. Tim ReynoldsCraig NixonMatt ShearerStu SaundersPhil M JonesVictoria TheriaultDwayne KerriganConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Tue, 31 Dec 2024 - 31min - 69 - Looking Back and Looking Forward Part 3: Scale and Systems
What separates businesses that successfully scale from those that plateau? How do you build systems that drive growth without losing the entrepreneurial spirit that made you successful in the first place?
Welcome to part 3 of our series where we're looking at the art and science of scaling businesses and building effective systems.
Today, you'll hear from entrepreneurs who've navigated the challenging journey from small operations to thriving enterprises. They share raw insights about the pivotal moments that demanded evolution - from washing dishes in tiny storefronts to leading teams of hundreds, from creating their first documented processes to building sophisticated operational systems.
We'll explore why clarity is king in business, how to maintain focus while scaling, and why the best leaders know when to step away from driving the bus to start directing traffic instead. Whether you're considering your first expansion or leading a growing enterprise, these conversations reveal the critical elements that separate successful scaling from costly chaos.
You'll discover practical wisdom about building accountability, creating effective sales processes, and maintaining the delicate balance between systems and entrepreneurial flexibility. Our guests share both their triumphs and hard-learned lessons about what it really takes to build a business that can grow beyond its founder.
Let's dive into these transformative stories of scale and systematic success..."
Scale and Systems
Rebecca WolfeDr Sam HazledineDwayne KerriganCharlie KerriganPhil M JonesNeil CuggyMark BradleyBrooke BishopTodd HartleyConnect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Mon, 30 Dec 2024 - 31min - 68 - Looking Back and Looking Forward Part 2: Purpose and Contribution, Holistic Success, Innovation & Adaptation
What drives truly meaningful success? How do we find purpose in a world of constant change? And what does it take to make a lasting impact?
Part 2 is a special compilation episode of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast where we're bringing together the most powerful insights from our conversations about purpose, holistic success, adaptation and innovation.
First, we explore purpose and contribution. You'll hear from guests who've discovered that true purpose often isn't about finding some grand mission - it's about making progress, helping others, and having something that genuinely sets your soul on fire. From overcoming trauma to discovering meaning through service, these conversations reveal how purpose emerges when we stop searching and start contributing.
Purpose and Contribution
Mark BradleyCurt CroninRachel MintzDwayne KerriganNext we dive into what holistic success really looks like. Our guests challenge the traditional models of achievement, sharing how they've learned to balance ambition with relationships, career with well-being, and personal growth with professional success. You'll hear practical wisdom about moving from scarcity to abundance, developing powerful rituals for growth, and creating excellence across all domains of life - not just business.
Holistic Success
Angie GreenshieldsBrian MullinsDwayne KerriganCurt CroninJawad MianJeff RobertiFinally, we'll explore innovation and adaptation in a rapidly changing world. Our guests share insights about designing life on your own terms, navigating uncertainty, and making an impact while staying true to your values. You'll hear from leaders who've learned to see patterns in chaos, embrace change as opportunity, and light the way for others through authentic leadership.
Innovation & Adaptation
Jeni HottAndrew PancholiJoey ColemanVictoria TheriualtPatrick CeresnaLoren LehavThese conversations cut through the noise to reveal timeless principles for meaningful success. Whether you're questioning your purpose, seeking more balanced achievement, or ready to innovate in a changing world, these insights will challenge you to think differently about what's possible.
Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan
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Website: www.dwaynekerrigan.com
Disclaimer The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.
Fri, 27 Dec 2024 - 28min
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