Office Drama

Creators got CANCELED for attending an AI brand trip...and we're finally addressing it. 🫣Today, I have the privilege of hosting Megan Lieu (data science + tech creator) on Office Drama to uncover what really went down on that trip and what it was actually like as a creator "getting canceled".I've worked professionally in Trust & Safety. I'm passionate about tech ethics, creator industries, and how we all should work together. And I really hope we can actually have constructive conversations on this platform that may push cultural, product, and policy changes for the better.It's very daunting as a female creator to address a situation like this, so I hope we can show up with empathy, curiosity, and constructive dialogue together. 🫶 Thank you for always making me feel safe to speak up.In this ep, we talk about:→ what actually happened on the brand trip→ the video Megan posted and the moment she realized it was going sideways→ how the press reaches out when they already know the angle they want→ why this trip hit a nerve when other AI brand trips didn't→ why the women creators took the brunt of the backlash→ how brands and creators should actually give each other feedback→ where tech creators sit between Silicon Valley's echo chamber and everyone else→ Find Megan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganlieuSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shihOD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.podtiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

test See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Half of 2026 is officially over... and I've never felt this behind in my career. 😅In today's episode of Office Drama, I'm doing my mid-year review out loud: what went wrong, what I'm scared of, and the 6 commitments I'm making so December-me doesn't have to go through the same existential disappointment.Today, we talk about:→ Why I felt so behind at the half-year mark of 2026→ The motherhood penalty: how does it impact your career? 👀→ A mutual creator who lost 10,000 followers overnight after announcing her pregnancy→ "Would you rather be pregnant or successful?" and why I don't want to choose!→ My 6 commitments I want us to try for the rest of 2026 Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment!𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Thank You to Our Sponsors!✹ Storyblocks: unlimited stock footage, music, and SFX for creators → https://storyblocks.com/officedramaWe've heard time and time again about the burnt out tech employee who quits a stable job to chase the dream. This time we're exploring the reverse!Daniel "Tafo" Lee has lived more careers than I can count on two hands. JPL engineer, coach to Melee god Mang0, Yahoo Esports show host, CLG General Manager, the internet's Tetris teacher, Web3 economist, Andreessen Horowitz, and now, at 37, starting over in big tech. He's no stranger to the creator economy and his honest take on who should actually pursue it might save you five years of your life.In this ep, we talk about:→ how he coached a Melee god while working full time at NASA JPL→ the ultimatum from his wife that finally made him quit and move to Esports→ why 90% of streamers won't make it, and why minimum wage might be the better option→ betting on yourself at 37: relearning how to code from scratch in the AI era→ and how becoming a dad made him reevaluate the value of his timeThis episode is for anyone who's ever been told to follow their passion and quietly wondered if that advice is a trap. Tafo is proof that the real flex isn't dying on one hill but maybe knowing when to walk away towards the next one.→ Find Tafo:https://www.instagram.com/tafokintshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellee912https://x.com/tafokintsSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Nobody tells you that when you get cast on MasterChef, you get to choose three people to fly out as your friends and family. Jaime (  @igumdrop  ) chose Aria (  @AriaSaki  ) , Kimi (  @AngelsKimi  ) and I, and we spent a week on set with NO phones, 7AM call times, and a front-row seat to watching her cook on the biggest stage of her life.In this ep, we talk about:→ why Jaime almost went alone→ the mandolin accident that didn't make it to air→ what Gordon Ramsay is ACTUALLY like→ the moment Aria destroyed a MasterChef contestant→ what traditional TV gets right that creators don't→ why chasing perfection as a creator isn't sustainable→ the narratives that get rewritten about women in gaming and streaming→ Find Jaime:https://www.youtube.com/@igumdrophttps://www.twitch.tv/igumdrophttps://www.instagram.com/igumdrop/https://www.tiktok.com/@igumdrop→ Find Aria:https://www.youtube.com/@AriaSakihttps://www.twitch.tv/ariasakihttps://www.instagram.com/ariasaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@ariasaki→ Find Kimi:https://www.youtube.com/@AngelsASMRhttps://www.youtube.com/@AngelsKimihttps://www.twitch.tv/angelskimi/https://www.instagram.com/angelskimi/https://www.instagram.com/gentleflamestudio/https://www.tiktok.com/@angelskimiiA huge thank you to the MasterChef production team for letting us share these stories!#MasterChef #MasterChefGlobalGauntlet @MasterChefonFOX @FOXTV @FoodClubFOXSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Over the past decade, Jaime (@iGumdrop) has built a 2M+ following, founded her own successful clothing brand, dropped out of college to pursue streaming, and now she's on the cast of Season 16 of MasterChef!In this week's episode of Office Drama, we get into the version of the story you don't see on TV.In this ep, we talk about:→ why she almost said no to MasterChef→ what it's like to be on the cast of MasterChef→ the insane reality TV background check nobody warns you about→ what Gordon Ramsay is ACTUALLY like in person→ the roti canai controversy→ the truth about agents, managers, and the people you work with as a creator→ why "the interview never matters" and what she actually hires on→ how she skipped the 5-year plan and went straight to a deathbed planThis episode is for anyone who's ever been underestimated, boxed into one version of themselves, or scared to take the leap because they might look like a fool. Jaime is one of the most earnest, chaotic, hilarious people I know, and watching her bet on herself, publicly, after ten years of quietly putting in the work is exactly the kind of story I started this show to tell.→ Find Jaime:https://www.youtube.com/@igumdrophttps://www.twitch.tv/igumdrophttps://www.instagram.com/igumdrop/https://www.tiktok.com/@igumdropA huge thank you to the MasterChef production team for letting us share these stories!#MasterChef #MasterChefGlobalGauntlet@MasterChefonFOX @FOXTV @FoodClubFOXSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsThank You to Our Sponsors!✹ Storyblocks: unlimited stock footage, music, and SFX for creators → storyblocks.com/officedrama✹ Quince: luxury-quality essentials without the markup → quince.com/officedramaIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rosie Nguyen is the Head of Creators at Suno, the world's leading AI music company. Before that she co-founded Fanhouse, joined Cantina, and went viral more times than I can count. She's bright, passionate, and comes into this episode with so many wild stories and experiences.In this ep, we talk about:→ growing up on food stamps and supporting immigrant parents→ getting demoted at her own company, then watching it get sold behind her back→ the phone call that saved her life→ going viral again and again and the attention that brings online→ why her current era makes her prouder than raising $20 million ever didThis one is for anyone who's ever been underestimated, flattened into one dimension, or had to rebuild from zero. Rosie is one of the most earnest and hilarious people I know, and this convo originally went almost THREE hours.→ Find Rosie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasminericegirl/Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sophia is one of my best friends, the officiant of my wedding, and one of the most cracked marketers I know. She's led campaigns at Airbnb, Databricks, and ElevenLabs. She won Best Dance Film at the LA Film Awards. She's also going through her biggest plot twist yet: leaving tech to pursue her art. Full time. For good. 🙂‍↕️In this episode, we talk about:→ why AI will never replace storytelling, taste, and human connection→ her honest take on the job market, what 20-somethings are getting wrong, and what a great interview actually looks like→ how she faced being belittled in by an interim CMO who said they need someone "more senior" when she led the campaign all alongThis one is for anyone who has done everything right and still felt like they were playing it too safe. Sophia is the most elegant proof I know that the pivot you're scared of might be the one you were always supposed to make.→ Find Sophia: https://www.instagram.com/sophianoel_Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's been ~2 years since I've been laid off from my dream job at @Discord, and the most COMMON question you've asked me is: "Have you matched or beaten your tech salary after becoming a creator?"I never liked this question because it's sincerely not apples to apples. I also dislike it when creators say "I made my corporate salary in 1 brand deal!!" Because there are SO many nuances, caveats, tradeoffs, and financial implications when choosing between both paths. But I finally break that down in today's episode of Office Drama.Today, we get UNFILTERED and talk about:→ How I overcame feeling like a failure after getting laid off→ How I felt comparing myself to friends in tech/corporate→ Whether my creator salary matched or beat my tech salary 👀→ How pregnancy and family planning impacts everything→ How I actually figured out how to pivot my career (with my Life PRD)I really don't think these conversations can fit into a 1 min short form video or a 10 min YouTube video, so I hope you enjoy this real, brutally honest breakdown of what it was like going from tech to content to media.p.s. please excuse the lighting changes in this one! 🫶My Vision Board + Template 👇https://www.figma.com/community/file/1462690089129320366/2025-vision-board-by-chloe-shih-chloe-shihSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~Special shoutout to Drama Llama Emily Huang for supporting Office Drama on Patreon! 🦙𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I've seen a pattern of senior ICs deciding to quit to bet on themselves, but we rarely get to see what it took to get there.Julia Fei, Sr. Data Scientist at Notion (and my dear creator friend), just made her decision to leave her dream job to pursue something she's always been curious about. But it was a calculated, deliberate decision that she spent years preparing for.In this week's episode of Office Drama, we reveal the inner drama of Julia's thought process and the conversations she's had navigating the transition.In this ep, we talk about:→ why Julia quit Notion when she genuinely loved her team, her manager, and her job→ how to know if you're actually growing or just getting comfortable→ why "stability" is a scam→ the double life of being a creator in tech→ how to build a financial runway for the leap before you're ready to take it→ and how to know when it's finally time to take a risk on yourselfThis episode is for anyone who has done everything right and still felt like they were playing it too safe. Julia is one of the most calculated, self-aware people I know and watching her finally bet on herself after years of preparation is exactly the kind of story I started this show to tell.→ Find Julia:https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliafei/https://www.youtube.com/@juliafeihttps://www.instagram.com/julia.fei/https://www.tiktok.com/@julia.feiSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~Special shoutout to Drama Llama Emily Huang for supporting Office Drama on Patreon! 🦙𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon→ https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan&utm_content=copyLink✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

My old Discord work bestie just got promoted *twice* in one year and I needed to know how he did it without losing himself in the process. Tobi Bisiriyu is a Product Design Manager at Discord and he's one of those rare people who is genuinely great at his job, actually likes it, and still makes work the least interesting thing about him. He cosplays, he goes to anime conventions, he walks one hour every day without exception, and he has a philosophy about life that I think more people in tech need to hear.In this ep, we talk about:→ Why looking competent is actually what's holding junior designers back→ the "contract you write for yourself" and how to know if you're breaching it→ why middle management is actually a "death" trap→ say yes to the scary thing...before you talk yourself out of it.→ being greedy "with integrity" and why it's good to want it all→ and why getting a four in life matters more than getting one at workThis episode is for anyone who is good at their job but wonders if there's a version of success that doesn't require you to give everything else up. Tobi is one of the most intentional people I've ever worked with and somehow he got even more thoughtful since we last worked together.→ Find Tobi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobibisiriyuSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's been about 2 years and 3 mo since I was infamously laid off from my dream product manager job at Discord. And today, I finally sit with my old manager to talk about life after layoffs. Derek Yang is now a Principal Product Manager at Roblox, and before that he was at YouTube, Twitch, Yik Yak, Facebook, and Discord where he was also my last ever corporate manager. In this ep, we talk about: → What it actually means to "make it" in tech (spoiler: he still doesn't think he has)→ the performance review that humbled him and forever changed → how he approaches his career→ why working hard is not enough and what actually gets you recognized→ what he gave up becoming a new dad→ and why sustainability is his whole era right nowThis episode is for anyone who has ever put their whole heart into their work and still felt like it wasn't enough. Derek is one of the most thoughtful people I know and I learned something new about him even after years of friendship.→ Find Derek on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dereklyangSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.com𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to my new show, Office Drama, where we sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We interview people across tech, media, and entertainment. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment called "Coworker Confessions" where you can anonymously submit your work drama, stories, and situations for a second opinion. ➔ Submit here: https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsCheck out Office Drama every Monday at 8am PT on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts! If you like what you see and want to support the show, follow, comment, and rate 5 stars!! ⭐️ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

hii jomies!this is our ill-fated "fail episode." last year eric and i spent literally five hours on a sunday trying to film an episode about work resentment and burnout and every single take just sucked. we tried THREE times and failed every single time.but we had some really good nuggets in there so we chopped it up and pulled out the best parts for you guys. it's kind of a hodgepodge of segments but honestly some of my fave convos came out of it! we talk about someone reaching out to me asking for advice on whistleblowing, dealing with power tripping managers, the weird guilt of going independent, and why we push ourselves so damn hard when we could actually just chill.this episode is proof that not every recording session is a banger and sometimes you just gotta take the L and move on. but also!! the conversations were still valuable and i didn't want them to just... rot. thank u for listening and for being part of this community, it means everything to uslove,chlo & eric See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today, we're taking you for a ride through season 2! this season had some of our favorite moments ever, some really fun guests, reflective moments, and a whole lot of chaos we didn't see coming.here are all our favorite moments in one place. thank you for being here for all of it, jomies... we love you!– chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today, we're taking you back to season 1, where it all started!season 1 gave us SO much. here are all our favorite moments in one place. thank you for being there from the beginning jomies, we love you!– chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today, jomo is coming to an end. we get into what jomo has meant to us, why we're closing this chapter, and what's coming next. what a ride it's been! jomies, thank you sincerely for your support through the years... we couldn't have done it without ya! love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today is all about failure. what it actually means, how to handle it, and why your relationship with it will determine how far you go.we get into the difference between failing in your 20s vs. your 30s, what it means to keep swinging for the home run every single time, and why AI is making hard work feel suddenly very fragile.if you catch L's and never know what to do with them... this one's for you.love, chloe & eric 💌p.s. we're so sorry about the wide cam being out of focus this episode! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today is all about family. the kind you're born into, the kind you build, and what it actually looks like to grow up, work, and create alongside the people who know you best. we sit down with RJ and Jalin Siu to talk about sibling dynamics, their content journey, creative dreams, and what it takes to turn your family into your team. if you've ever wondered what it would be like to do life with your siblings by your side... this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today is all about how to manufacture luck in your career and why it's less about chance and more about the moves you make *before* the moment arrives. we get into the five key ingredients to luck, the behaviors that kill it, and how to stay motivated when you're doing everything right and nothing seems to be working yet. if you feel like things aren't always going your way... this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today is all about dating when you're a successful, ambitious woman... and why it's so much harder than it should be.kristin has some of the most insane dating lore we've ever heard. we're talking breakup contracts, rough conversations around net worth, a hawaii date that turned into a job interview, and so much more. it gets crazy. if you're someone who's ambitious and has ever wondered why the green flags always seem to fade... this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today is all about the "millennial career crisis" — what it is, why so many of us are in it, and what we're actually supposed to do about it.we talked about the "dream" we were sold growing up, the moment you realize the corporate ladder might not be going anywhere good, and how to start building something that actually fits your life instead.if you've ever sat at your desk thinking "wait… is this just it?" — this one's for you.– chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today is all about vision boards, life quests, and two very different people trying to figure out what they actually want from the next year (or two). I show up with a full framework,and Eric shows up with his "vibes" and a two-year quest. We are not the same. If you've ever stared down a new year feeling the pressure to have it all figured out, or wondered what it looks like to actually build a life that feels like yours — this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

this is our first real reflection of the current state of our 30s: friendship, comparison, dating, career.today, we talk about: • Why friendships feel deeper (and harder earned) in your 30s• The weird tension between success and comparison• Being ready to date again + reminiscing on old flames 🔥• Getting invited into “big rooms”… and still questioning everything• Our answers to the question: "are we actually happier now in our 30s?" love,chlo & eric See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today, we unpack the dark side of ambition - what happens when you tie your self-worth to success, why reaching milestones doesn't always bring relief, and our complicated feelings about burnout when we've technically "made it". If you've ever thought "when I get there, I'll finally be happy," this one's for you. this was a moment when I learned about the term "toxic gratitude" where you feel you're not allowed to complain and you should be grateful for the job or position you have. we just quietly suppress our struggles and then we implode by binging manhwa 😳- chlo & eric See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today is all about unpacking modern career life, side hustles, personal branding, burnout, and why we’re all so tired.is building a personal brand even a real thing? are side hustles empowering - or dystopian - and should you focus more on building something or marketing yourself~we get real about the cost of the grind and how to romanticize your own life despite all the struggle- hope you enjoy this honest conversation about career chaos 🤍 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tech pm turned creator making videos on career, personal growth, and life in your 20s/30s. 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictwayco-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances @trykarat 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod∙ spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/0sJAtVorz8TsYDzzyM04cq?si=9c913d3e0f2947be∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Both Eric and I are collapsing at the same time. 💀 The grass is always seems greener. Leaving corporate and doing your own thing is sincerely not sunshine and rainbows. Today, we talk about our inner rage, burnout, leadership expectations, being chronically let down, and the impossible transition from IC → manager → founder → creator. You're catching me in a deep spiral from work, hiring, creative overload as a one-woman team. Eric is going through his own burnout, loneliness, and existential crises as a startup founder. But I think we'll somehow get through this. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

today is all about unpacking modern dating, attraction, identity, and energy ft. our very own professional cutie pie jaime / @igumdrop !! in this episode, we cover:1) Jaime decoding how dating actually works (energy, connection, 7 seduction types, and why creators date differently)2) Chloe trying to give dating advice despite having no current dating experience 🫠3) Eric navigating male dating psychology, timing, vulnerability, and self-worth we explore how people connect today, knowing that we're all just so tired of checklists, tactics, and swiping. hope you enjoy this heartfelt chit chat about love! - chloe & eric𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictwayco-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances @trykarat 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tech pm turned creator making videos on career, personal growth, and life in your 20s/30s. 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod∙ spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/0sJAtVorz8TsYDzzyM04cq?si=9c913d3e0f2947be∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com#jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today, we're unpacking all the angsty stuff about burnout, success, insecurity, and friendship.The entire episode runs on two parallel arcs:1. Chloe hitting 1 million followers and dealing with the fallout2. Eric trying to keep up emotionally, creatively, and personallyWe discuss how friendships evolve when one friend takes off career-wise, how to stay emotionally grounded, and how to stay connected despite chaos.This is sincerely my favorite episode so far. It's incredibly nuanced, a scary conversation to have, and such an interesting behind-the-scenes deep talk of our inner worlds. Hope you enjoy! love,chloe + eric𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tech pm turned creator making videos on career, personal growth, and life in your 20s/30s. 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com#jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today is about all networking, introversion, power dynamics, and how relationships actually form in professional spaces - especially when you *hate* networking, but know it matters. Both Eric and I have wildly different personalities navigating the same high-power ecosystems, from Cannes Lions to Vidcon, and we get into what it really feels like to move through rooms full of important people, big egos, and invisible social rules.We talk about:✨ how to exist in elite spaces without burning out✨ introvert exhaustion & social hangovers✨ imposter syndrome in rooms you “don’t belong” in✨ the cringe of self-promotion✨ and the tension between being really good at what you do… and being seen for itIf networking has ever made you feel awkward, small, or like you’re playing a game you never learned the rules to - you’re not alone.Sometimes we walk into rooms that weren’t built for us.But we still have to decide how we show up anyway. 💌𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictwayco-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tech pm turned creator making videos on career, personal growth, and life in your 20s/30s. 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚0:00 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com#jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome back to SEASON 2 of the Joy of Missing Out podcast! After a 1 year hiatus, we are finally back. Tysm for your patience. We also did receive plenty of angy comments about why we didn't come back in 2025 😅 but just remember, it's just us doing it from my living room o___o (yes, this is Chloe). Podcasting looks so chill, but the production ops is a monster to do right. I also changed careers, joined a new agency, got married, worked a BUNCH, and tried to produce this pod. I vowed to myself that if it wasn't good, it's not going out. I finally think it's ready to release! Eric and I decided to kick off the first episode with THE WEDDING ✨ This episode is about my wild, overwhelming year (wedding, career explosion, burnout) and Eric's personal chaos (broken foot, heartbreak, startup pressure, loneliness). ChatGPT says: Together, Eric and Chloe talk about friendship under pressure, how distance tests connection, and what it means to come back together after a year that nearly broke both of us. (HAHA wow so dramatic) Hope you enjoy our S2 premiere! Love, Chloe & Eric𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictwayco-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tech pm turned creator making videos on career, personal growth, and life in your 20s/30s. 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com#jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Try Kittl today! → https://www.kittl.com/create?&utm_medium=collaboration&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=chloeshih_22474512833_1 You can use our code JOMOPODYT for 25% off the first month or year of any paid plan (for new users only!) This is goodbye. For now. In this episode we answer your burning questions including: why we're stopping JOMO, what our future plans are, and how is Eric's romantic life going? As Eric said this isn't a period, this is a semicolon. We'll see you again for season 2 :) 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv ∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 Eric is Chloe's biggest fan 3:21 find my iphone coming in clutch 4:33 you're the unstable one 7:36 it's fires after fires 8:18 why we are ending jomo 11:14 WE'RE 12TH ON SPOTIFY BUSINESS PODCASTS WOOT WOOT 14:18 lauDIY during Eric's house into a home 15:33 a girl entered Eric's house and did not run away in fear 16:06 1. Is Eric back on his boo thang hunt? 17:50 first they were NPC friends 22:40 she's sitting there looking at 🐓🐓🐓 24:30 he KISSED her!!! 28:34 is Chloe feeling the jomo? 31:50 no Captain Eric :( 36:30 just vibing with some pickleball 39:15 Eric put on an A+ event 42:00 wonderous package ideas 45:08 showing face means so much 47:45 2. When's the next season starting? 48:34 3. What's the general direction for season 2? 51:19 4. What would we be doing during the break? 52:30 5. What were your favorite/least favorite episodes? 54:42 6. Do you have any plans for a meetup? 58:14 7. Can you give advice for people in their 20s? 59:09 *8. How do you become confident and overcome self-doubt? 59:48 find your weapon and abuse the f*** out of it 1:05:55 9. How do you balance being yourself and being professional? 1:08:45 we like Eric today 1:09:14 10. What made you ultimately decide to go to the creative route? 1:10:19 11. Any advice for someone trying to balance content with a 9-5? 1:12:38 12. What have you discovered about yourself/each other while doing JOMO? 1:16:24 One last goodbye :( 1:19:43 we'll still be around, so stay in touch!! JOMO out! 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Try Kittl today! → https://www.kittl.com/create?&utm_medium=collaboration&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=chloeshih_22474512833_1 You can use our code JOMOPODYT for 25% off the first month or year of any paid plan (for new users only!) What's the difference between networking and clout chasing? A lot of times you want to meet cool people. But then you get accused of clout chasing. Even though the two things have different intentions, from the outside they can look the same. It's a tricky thing to balance. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv ∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 not the reddit clout chaser accusation 3:36 fake relationships for clout exist 7:15 haters are just projecting 9:28 Chloe in a content house? 12:05 nobody is big enough to be an a**hole 14:17 Kira's got called a clout chaser by her ex's friend 17:13 go network but don't pretend it's for friendship 20:55 chloe loves the community :) 24:25 you SHOULD surround yourself with people better than you 25:59 it's not a bad thing to meet cool people 27:11 unconditional love isn't real 29:00 conditional love is a good thing 31:55 unconditional love is reserved for family (some instances no) 35:35 the concept of grace 37:33 epigenetics mans 39:37 we call out behavior, not people 41:54 if you want a lasting relationship, don't ask for favors 43:54 Jomies in the wild tell us your background! 44:24 this is one of Eric's favorite podcast episodes! 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Going into office can be tiring, but with an office crush it can make you look forward to going to work! With 43% of people married to someone they worked with, your future partner might just be awaiting you there (it's pretty statistically probable!) Some statistics about workplace romances according to Forbes: -43% have married someone they worked with -40% have cheated on their current partner with a coworker -50% report flirting with their co-workers (https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/workplace-romance-statistics/) Try Kittl today! https://www.kittl.com/create?&utm_medium=collaboration&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=chloeshih_22474512833_1 You can use our code JOMOPODYT for 25% off the first month or year of any paid plan (for new users only) 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv ∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 taking EXTRA good care of the daughter 0:45 we're not doing this forever 2:29 DON'T wear this to work 3:40 you gotta flirt to convert 4:44 what did we wear to work 6:49 men discriminate against hair colors 8:09 might find your new boo at work ;) 11:56 Eric's secret to pulling the ladies 12:26 Chloe got cheated on in the workplace 15:12 cheating is more common than you think 18:55 have you ever had a crush on your manager? 21:22 don't s*** where you eat 24:14 the ugly reality of office romances 27:02 Chloe's red hair makes a debut 31:33 it's hard being a girl 34:26 someone's trying to get promoted... to son in law 42:25 THIS is how you win a girl over 46:30 competence is sexy 49:00 he said WHAT?!? 52:02 would eric swipe on kira??? 55:20 can notice when someone is aesthetically not hideous 59:20 how Chloe would rizz up her office crush 1:02:37 the hunger games romance version 1:05:58 good thing Kira isn't a man 1:08:40 ANIME JOMO 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In a time characterized by the prominence social media, Gen Z have been socialized significantly different from previous generations. This may be the reason for their work ethic that Chloe has struggled to work with during her team building endeavors. On the other hand Eric has had only positive experiences, but is this the exception or the rule? 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv ∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 They said what?? 0:55 crying on the toilet 4:04 Chloe was on the grind 6:32 What's the biggest mental block 9:50 don't be TOO mindful or demure 11:36 mental blocks are easier to see in others 14:46 just fighting demons at 3 am 17:42 overcoming depression with My Little Pony 20:00 JOMO won best podcast award!! :O 24:47 if jomo wasn't jomo 26:08 Chloe's exploring the VC world 29:52 What does Eric do as an advisor? 33:17 when you have influence, people come to you 36:30 Is investing worth it? 40:47 Let him cook!! 42:16 working with Gen Z is a nightmare 47:00 but is it really a Gen Z thing? 50:20 love the younger gen, as coworkers maybe not so much... 53:13 empowerment in the wrong environment can be bad 55:30 please share your advice about working with Gen Z!! 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Cheaters sucks. Finding out you've been cheated on even after it's all over still sucks— which is exactly what happened to Chloe. This leads to the conversation of how does one see multiple people? Even if you're single just trying to get to know people it can feel like you're betraying everyone involved. These things can feel even more stressful as we age and relationships get more serious. Aging can be terrifying, but it's out of our control so the only thing we can do is live our lives to the fullest. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv ∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 Third time's the charm... 2:30 laurDIY fixing Eric up, goodbye furnitureless days 7:00 is your wife Chloe Shih??? 9:10 Chloe got cheated on and ERIC FIGURES IT OUT 10:31 and she KNEW the girl 13:32 Eric's a normie 16:09 is cheating a deal breaker? 17:54 guys, you need to learn to breakdance 19:00 seeing multiple people is weird 21:40 how do you meet a significant other? 22:40 don't s*** where you eat 25:33 don't date bait 27:53 staying safe by staying on the apps 29:12 not so vanilla afterall 34:45 sometimes you gotta follow your heart 35:54 creator happy hour! 37:20 can't keep up with the youngins' energy 39:20 with age comes wisdom 41:47 age defines the era of your life 43:45 aging is terrifying 47:27 everyone ages 49:27 everyone is a reincarnation of you 51:12 fear of impending doom 51:52 Is Eric going to ask that girl out? 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From corporate life in our 20s to working in the creator space, we’ve learned a lot from our experiences. This is what we wish we’d known before reaching our 30s. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv ∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 we gotta go!! 0:57 Chloe joined the sock gang 2:11 living the life you want 4:14 just f***ing do it 6:52 I like your face 9:22 pickleball partners on tinder? not euphemism 13:47 maybe I have ADHD  17:32 the reality of "I'm Single. Again."  21:32 Chloe slides into the DMs 24:34 exclusive patreon content... free Eric 28:05 be unafraid to fail 29:53 you don't have to say yes 31:15 managers can make/break your career 33:38 build a great sense of self 35:28 read Designing Your Life 37:32 don't compare your bts to someone's highlight reel 38:17 the grass is greener where you water it 38:43 therapy is really lit 41:36 being alone is not lonely 43:26 love yourself 46:45 choose the f***s you're willing to give out 48:00 question everything and build a b***s*** meter 49:19 negotiate the heck out of your salary 50:02 don't be afraid of money  51:52 how you do anything is how you do everything 52:54 the grind is not the only game to play 53:59 no one is going to give a s*** about your career, you gotta fully own it 54:23 get out of victim mentality  57:23 you are the average of the top five influences around you 58:34 nobody really cares 59:04 just assume you have talent  1:00:35 play the infinite game 1:03:16 it's never an overnight success 1:03:40 health is wealth 1:04:25 how to find the "One" 1:05:57 learn to let go 1:07:16 it may not be your fault, but it is your responsibility  1:07:45 know your "why" 1:09:14 being busy is a trap 1:10:18 not one but TEN lessons 1:13:19 nobody knows s*** 1:13:59 you don't suck 1:14:42 you get to make a choice 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

So a lot has happened since we last met... like Eric met THE Biden. As you can tell it was a crazy week for Eric as he traveled across several states and met lots of people including Fred Liu and the Mr.Beast team. Meanwhile Chloe was having an emotional journey rather than a physical one. There's lots of lessons learned this week, including some great advice from Jimmy and Jaime about handling self-hatred and hiring in the creator space. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv ∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 Biden wants to be a content creator?? 0:22 shirtless Eric 0:52 our intrusive thoughts available on patreon 2:13 end this debate: jomillionaire vs jomo angel 3:25 let the man rot 7:04 you need to act like you're the s*** 8:58 Eric cried in some dude's basement 11:33 the 1/3 rule for relationships 14:35 the mysterious Coxsackie car 17:10 Eric butchers Korean 18:18 buddy got neutered :( 20:24 Chloe is an extreme J 23:06 Eric meets Fred Liu and gives him a book 26:00 some man has good real estate and BAM billboard 27:49 meeting the POTUS 31:45 Eric became a hand model 34:23 friendship core memories 36:40 4 hour road trip for a 50% chance with the Mr.Beast team 39:45 Eric stayed up late to read a manhwa with a reincarnated hot man 44:20 doing the community a service 47:10 Chloe was going through it 50:29 Advice #1 you need to let go of negative energy 54:27 Advice #2 you need to change your perspective 55:16 Advice #3 be the hero of your life, not the victim 58:39 Why constrain yourself for your own story? 1:03:33 we love jaime aka igumdrop 1:05:09 we also love adrian aka omgadrian 1:06:37 hiring tip #1: gauging for grit 1:07:49 hiring tip #2: believe in the mission 1:09:46 lots of creators at the jackpot screening 1:12:52 what are Eric’s pickleball skills REALLY like? 1:14:10 Chloe’s locked in on 30 lessons at 30 1:16:44 getting our lives where they need to be 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Nobody likes to be wrong. Feedback is always difficult whether it be on the giving or receiving side. This week’s episode is a heartfelt one as we share our experiences receiving feedback in our corporate jobs and now giving feedback as the bosses in our creative endeavors. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ Eric Wei (⁠ @trykarat ⁠) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(⁠ @chloeshih ⁠) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv ∙ patreon → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 fake feedback 1:06 shark socks 2:19 A LOT has happened 3:27 we had a fire 6:00 patreon launched! 8:02 eric reflecting on being maidenless 13:08 how to be the TOP of the industry 16:28 not a lot of people can do this 18:53 what content really means 20:24 teamwork makes the dream work 22:18 a manager is useless without their team 26:50 eric made a mistake 29:30 chloe gave her friend a B- 32:12 the feedback Google gave Chloe 33:02 importance of ownership 37:23 building a work style + when your style clashes 40:52 rationale is valuable! 42:04 responsibility vs fault 44:18 chloe loves clubs, eric? not so much... 45:56 valuable feedback #1: perspective 48:56 valuable feedback #2: best practices for YOU 51:30 corporate buzzwords 52:30 chloe has ~conviction~ 53:27 we all have our weakness, like showering 54:43 eric got chills from chloe's feedback 58:54 chloe taught her friends taxes 1:02:08 giving brutally honest feedback for success 1:05:00 sharing feedback with your own feelings 1:07:07 trust when working with friends 1:08:37 chloe and eric’s good days 1:09:44 unsolicited feedback from strangers❌ 1:11:30 don’t do the s*** sandwich 1:12:30 eric still gets scared of feedback 1:15:20 What's something you’re trying to get better at? 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's episode is going to be a judgy one because we are ranking everyone and every situation you can encounter in the tech world. From the person who never has their camera on to the LinkedIn influencers we've seen our fair share of them. We are joined by Chloe's husbando, Kevin, to add the software engineer POV. In our rankings we are not holding back and giving our brutally honest thoughts. From jail to invited to pickleball to a jomie we got all the tiers covered. Get nice and cozy because this is gonna be a wild ride. P.S. the patreon is officially launched🥳 → https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ Eric Wei ( @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod/ ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 the Chloe, Kevin echochamber 0:44 patreon launched! 5:21 Chloe’s husbando with the swe pov 6:35 tier list explained 9:44 disclaimer: no vanilla wholesome today 11:12 never has their camera on 13:35 way too into boba 14:28 dyes their hair blue or purple 15:34 engineer who wants a farm 16:38 has massive imposter syndrome 18:35 works in mobile gaming 19:39 exec that won't get a real mic 22:16 Berkeley EECS grads 24:53 mental health leave post on LinkedIn 26:00 Koolaid drinkers 27:13 doesn't have a bedframe 29:03 omakase and niku guy 29:57 Canadians/Waterloo 31:17 probably working a 2nd job 32:14 still uses firefox 33:11 always snow boarding 34:04 engineers that think ur flirting with them 34:59 sends long message at 5 pm on a Friday 36:06 dual monitor, mech keyboard, ergo desk + chair set up 36:54 the type that posts on Blind 37:38 says they're poor but makes 6 figs 38:34 really, really into coffee 39:40 staff engineer who "has no filter" 41:10 gets into office at 7 am 42:05 VCs 43:04 lowkey nepo baby 43:35 white tesla drivers 44:42 PM turned startup founder 46:21 HR 47:27 diversity hire 48:48 LinkedIn influencers 49:32 startup CEO that keeps pivoting 50:18 extreme biohacker 51:53 new grads 52:25 Forbes 30U30 lister 54:27 "hi" with no follow up 55:33 slack s***poster 56:05 RPMs 57:00 interns 57:42 bootcamp engineers 58:27 only promotion projects 59:13 ladder climbers 59:58 brings their dog to the office 1:00:20 wanna go rock climbing 1:00:53 "tech jobs that make 6 figure" creators 1:02:18 hosts board game nights 1:02:50 weebs 1:03:38 sold 2 startups and now "consults" 1:04:34 only works at FAANG 1:04:42 doesn't work on a real desk or chair 1:05:59 swipes in for lunch and leaves 1:06:16 only wears free tech shirts 1:06:56 the aquihires 1:07:20 SF techies 1:09:08 LA techies 1:10:12 Seattle techies 1:10:20 NY techies 1:10:33 engineer with a really loud keyboard 1:11:21 has a photo of Elon on their desk 1:11:49 Tahoe trip planner 1:12:16 wears patagonia vests & chinos 1:12:25 guy who always complains about dating 1:14:02 crypto bros 1:14:18 looks like a recruiter, is a recruiter 1:14:58 DIML techtokers 1:15:58 MBA grad name dropper 1:16:02 PM/design GF + SE boyfriend 1:17:10 Dr. Fei-Fei Li 1:17:36 Daddy Zuck 1:18:20 Sheryl Sandberg 1:18:39 Daddy Jensen 1:19:30 Elon Musk 1:22:08 disclaimer: all for funsies 1:23:25 JOMO out 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

so...eric's back on the market. any takers? 👀 jk, but maybe? 🙄 today, eric wanted a lil pow-wow where we talk about our hearts. it's a whole episode around breakups - the good, the bad, and the ugly. and we have our very own recurring guest, kira, back on this special episode!! also kira is finally back online! you can find her at: Kira Lee: https://www.instagram.com/michellekiralee/ 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Kristin Davis 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 uh, are we toxic? 0:44 up until 5 am 2:38 kira is now online! ig: michellekiralee 3:17 our exes are watching this pod 4:25 our breakups history 5:58 eric's single now :'( 8:22 chloe's breakups history 16:18 kira's breakups history 23:49 eric's recent breakup 25:26 eric's breakups history 27:11 eric's faithfulness being tested 28:55 when do you commit? 30:55 "in-yeon", which is "fate" in korean 33:58 is eric ready to commit? 34:35 korea's declining birth rate 38:22 an open debate on having kids 44:10 our parent's relationships 46:22 how kira handles fights with her boyfriend 48:22 how eric's parents impacts him 49:19 money makes you powerless 49:43 the women in chloe's family are built different 52:28 eric's realization on who he dates 53:09 chloe's learnings from her breakups 57:11 kira's learnings from her breakups 1:00:00 eric's learnings from his breakups 1:02:54 is eric ready TO DATE?! :o 1:04:29 what eric's looking for in a *girlfriend* 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

last week's episode was about the *art* of networking - how to get INTO the group. this week is about how you get kicked OUT of one. it's social faux pas, what NOT to do, and what gives us the ick. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠@trykarat) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(@chloeshih) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Lucas Falkavage and Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ youtube → https://www.youtube.com/@jomopod ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 no queen, you slay! 0:45 the truth about our patreon... 2:23 eric's filthy toes 3:02 horseback riding with the BOYZ 7:29 feeling better about building this startup 9:30 being with people we don't like 10:04 chloe's events w/ Asian Founders Network and Beacons 11:16 eric pinging chloe's discord manager 11:45 chloe fumbled at beacons dinner 13:32 chloe's hosting lenalemon and stellachuu 14:18 the mystery of grandma 15:42 chloe's mental breakdown 16:50 so there was this creepy tech guy... 20:22 kicking people out + setting boundaries 21:51 doing reference checks on the creep 22:59 I just found out he did that... 23:49 when you don't like your friend's friend 27:40 what's socially NOT ok? 29:00 what gets you BANNED 30:13 who's +1 are they?! 31:43 the emperor has no clothes 34:02 they snuck in and used us, wtf? 36:05 the attachment style theory 39:01 your problem is my problem 40:18 resolving conflicts w family (daddy chill!) 42:31 resolving conflicts in relationships 44:48 chloe left her nonprofit 46:11 stanford's touchy feely learnings 49:25 the feedback given to eric 51:04 what to do with fringe friends you don't like 53:02 social faux pas! 57:03 how to pass the vibe check 1:01:51 story: chloe's mentor 1:04:01 people talk... 1:05:41 takeaways: u gotta be a hater 1:06:46 a study on cutting off your family 1:09:28 don't lie See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

“It’s all about who you know.” We’re constantly told to go out there and network, to the point where we feel like we can’t miss a single event. And the million dollar question: what if you're an introvert? From our years in corporate and now the content space, we've been to our fair share of networking events and picked up a few tips along the way. This episode is a dump of the stories, the L's, and insider tips we've gathered on the art of networking. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠  @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(  @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 intro 0:46 ultra premium rare skin Chloe unlocked 3:00 Eric’s Karat party at Vidcon 4:42 Colin & Samir shoutout 6:36 burnout at events 9:51 Vidcon networking highlights 12:11 Eric’s missed panel 16:15 dinner with a mega millionaire 20:55 algorithms to optimize health 22:12 what’s a hot girl walk? 25:50 networking as an introvert 26:34 Eric and Chloe’s MBTI test results 28:08 networking when you don’t know anyone 31:40 how to secure people’s contact info 34:09 how Eric networks 36:13 Chloe’s go-to networking question 38:39 what’s the dream? 44:36 are they a work friend or friend friend? 49:11 Eric’s cold outreach secrets🤫 54:13 who Eric wants to meet next 55:35 who Chloe wants to meet next 57:48 the truth about successful people 59:30 know who to stay away from 1:05:59 feeling FOMO with networking 1:08:53 givers and takers 1:11:25 Jomie meetup?? 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #friendship #adultfriendship See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Friends - everyone needs them, but why are real ones so hard to find? Spoiler alert: it doesn't get easier once you're an adult. In fact it gets even more complicated once you throw work, spouses, and everyone doing their own thing into the mix. Episode 8 is about the best and worst parts of friendship, from the toxicity and cliques to the people you meet who make all of the drama worthwhile. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠  @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(  @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 repressed memories 0:36 Chloe is injured 2:06 Eric’s new friends 3:03 Eric’s crazy ig stories 4:45 not having a friend group ft. eric’s kitty socks 6:53 abusive best friends 9:08 the Bay Area clique 10:39 when did Chloe make her first best friend 11:57 Chloe’s high school and college bullies 16:09 Chloe’s a$$hole roommate 22:43 SF housing drama 28:42 there’s no good definition of friendship 31:33 Eric’s struggle making friends 35:50 Eric couldn’t find roommates at Harvard 37:34 Chloe’s old high school crush 42:27 let’s talk about adult friendships 44:51 deciding how people slot into your life. How close are we? 49:50 Chloe’s friendship bar 52:08 Chloe’s highkey sus mentor 56:15 reference checking friends 57:08 criteria for making friends 1:00:44 when business changes friendships 1:03:02 have you ever been a groomsman/woman? 1:05:34 the complications of work friendships 1:07:47 this toxic coworker had a big crush on Chloe 1:12:39 can men and women be friends? 1:14:50 being pressured to constantly hang out 1:17:57 what Chloe appreciates about Eric 1:19:38 what Eric appreciates about Chloe 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #friendship #adultfriendship See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Nothing we do feels like enough. It’s easy to look at someone’s accomplishments on paper and think they have it all...but Episode 7 is all about the mental tax that comes with constantly striving for that next accomplishment. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠  @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 How to do a *proper* hi five 1:05 life updates - Taiwan, college reunion, writing a life PRD 4:21 Chloe’s course launched… and she has a hater 9:08 Chloe’s act of kindness 11:03 the life of being online 12:01 Eric’s recent acts of kindness 13:52 Eric as a college student 16:17 what is Harvard’s reunion like? 19:45 Chloe not included in networking conversations 24:07 feeling small 29:56 Chloe has *clout* 31:33 Chloe hosted her own Gold House Gala 36:16 the sacrifices of putting “business success” first 38:23 living in scarcity 39:37 wanting to feel heard 41:13 ya hate to see it! 44:09 do you want to change and let go? 45:49 infinite halfway theory 48:22 first impressions of Chloe 50:16 does wanting to change come from insecurity? 52:35 Chloe’s insecurities about being feminine enough 56:56 Eric’s crazy EDC travels 1:01:40 how much Chloe’s course made in sales 1:07:51 reflections 1:10:32 a bonus 🪰 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #careeradvice See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Full-time content or back to tech...what about neither? Chloe has been defining her own path, which along the way has led her to sign a huge contract with a Taiwanese ed-tech company and contemplate launching her own TV show. Similarly, Eric's involvement in both business and content has him going from VC pitch meetings to hanging out in the Sway House with some of the world's biggest influencers. What is that lifestyle like, and is it really worth it? 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.com/invite/eKZEx42R 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 uwu and meet buddy 1:23 why was Chloe in Taiwan 3:37 Chloe’s product course! 5:32 why Kevin had to fly to Taiwan  6:51 Chloe’s family reunion  11:06 being a full time creator - is it profitable? Worth it? 13:16 why Chloe doesn’t want to do just tech or content 15:45 what are you gonna do then? 18:30 jUsT sTarT a cOmpAnY 20:55 what Chloe really cares about 26:53 content is too grabby 28:53 it only takes Eric 15 mins to do this?? 32:22 what do we call Chloe’s path 33:10 star studded pickleball tournament 36:39 the mentor who changed Chloe’s life 41:23 Chloe and Eric’s takes on how to actually find a mentor 45:13 awkward networking stories 49:32 why you have to be self promotional 51:10 eric’s experience at sway house 52:26 how content complements Eric’s entrepreneurship 59:00 taiwanese slang M3Ⓜ️3️⃣ 1:01:21 creators are tired 1:07:14 familial duties - parents, chloe junior 1:11:56 JOMO out 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #careeradvice See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

“Should I leave my 9-5 to do content?” We’ve all had that thought, and Chloe actually made it happen. But is content really as glamorous as it seems? Chloe and Eric dive into the good, the bad, and the ugly of some of today's most enticing career paths: tech, startups, and content. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠  @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(  @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/chloeshih 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 sick and tired of it all 2:46 did eric get shadow banned? 4:06 learned helplessness 5:46 chloe spends HOW many hours a week on content? 9:09 chloe has the urge to go back to corporate 1048 is content less fun as a full time creator? 11:51 how to design your life 13:14 how being 30 affects your body 15:35 the three paths - content is a side hoe 17:56 the most interesting people are not online 20:13 PM is NOT a chill job 24:03 what’s so hard about deciding life paths 27:30 do CEOs have to be good at managing people 29:13 should creators have smaller teams? 33:00 is YouTube still worth it? 35:08 how to make the most out of your PM job 39:23 feeling unimpactful as a PM 40:47 I just wanna be salary man 42:32 creators don’t get to work on the business side 44:50 chloe’s crazy grind schedule 49:11 does chloe want to start her own company? 51:18 eric’s career advice for chloe 53:35 how eric deals with burnout 54:40 eric & chloe’s plans for the next few weeks 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #careeradvice See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In Part 2 of our steamiest episode yet - what's it really like to date successful people? Do men like it when women are smarter than them? Should the man in a relationship pay more? Chloe and Eric are joined by a friend to discuss everything related to love and dating in your 30s. 𝙎𝙋𝙄𝘾𝙀 𝙇𝙀𝙑𝙀𝙇: 🌶️🌶️🌶️ 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito Disclaimer: This episode features an open and honest discussion about our diverse dating journeys. We understand that some viewpoints may differ from your own, and we fully respect that. Our aim is to create a space for a variety of perspectives rooted in real experiences. Please remember that the content of this podcast is not intended as advice. Instead, we hope it highlights the complexity of dating and love. 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ youtube → www.youtube.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/chloeshih 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 welcome to pt 2! 0:48 what it’s like to date founders 3:02 are founders more likely to cheat? 4:22 the problems with men wanting validation 5:40 was dating in 30s different for eric 6:36 why dating in 30s gets harder for women 8:42 how eric “screens” potential gfs 9:27 why eric doesn’t want kids 10:45 the most forward chloe has ever been 12:57 eric’s consulting rizz 13:43 do guys like when girls are smarter 15:49 how do you know he wants to be more than friends 17:36 definite dealbreakers 18:36 GREEN flags 22:11 being gaslit into open relationships 26:36 improve yourself to attract better people in your life 29:10 why open relationships don’t work long term 31:37 when are you ready to get married 33:06 how eric views marriage 34:55 should men pay for more 41:40 how much $$ do you need to live comfortably in LA 45:09 being a housewife 46:15 favorite romantic tropes 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #dating #relationships #love See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Do women really care about height? Should you date friends? How do you know when someone is the *one*? Chloe and Eric are joined by a friend to discuss everything related to love and dating in your 30s. There's much to cover, so much so that the episode is broken into two parts. Stay tuned for Part 2 coming next Tuesday! 𝙎𝙋𝙄𝘾𝙀 𝙇𝙀𝙑𝙀𝙇: 🌶️🌶️🌶️ 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ⁠ ) - IG: / erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 (⁠ @chloeshih ⁠ ) IG: / chloe.shih tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → / jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → / jomopod ∙ youtube → / @jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 protein chips (and more protein chips) 0:55 introducing our guest! 1:56 one way open relationships 4:20 why have an open relationship 5:40 facing public opinion on open relationships 7:52 would chloe have an open relationship 9:24 how kevin pulled chloe with NO experience 12:30 being tricked into a date 13:48 chloe and kevin’s first date 14:58 overlooking nice guys 16:06 do sf women think too highly of themselves? 18:24 when chloe *finally* fell for kevin 21:45 is it a red flag when they don’t have experience? 23:50 when do you commit to someone? 27:00 dealbreakers 28:18 why did chloe feel confident in her choice in kevin 30:20 simps. 32:00 why eric doesn’t date friends 34:44 eric’s accidental date w an older guy 36:30 why guys full send in dating 38:50 eric’s hinge profile glow up 41:08 does height really matter 43:11 eric’s wildest LA dating story 44:06 why eric fell for his gf 45:56 eric’s history of exes 48:22 hoe phases 49:53 100% certified magic trick for pulling ;) 54:05 stay tuned for pt 2! 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #dating #relationships #love See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Chloe and Eric both left the corporate world for their own pursuits. But it's hard to ignore the elephant in the room: where does money fit into the equation? The JOMO hosts compare their finances from back when they worked corporate jobs, to today as a full-time creator (Chloe) and startup founder (Eric). This is an honest conversation about how money affects relationships and careers in your 20s and 30s — some major 🍵 is spilled! 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ⁠ ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 (⁠ @chloeshih ⁠ ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ youtube → www.youtube.com/@jomopod 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 eric & chloe catch up 5:48 money in relationships 11:14 when did you first start making a lot of money 14:56 when being money driven stops you from doing other things 17:13 are startups *actually* lucrative 20:00 why chloe went into content 29:08 chloe's married life finances 32:09 eric's finances across relationships 37:00 onlyfans 40:00 how having kids changes finances 46:46 the corporate ladder 52:01 how chloe worked her way up 1:00:14 paying for others 1:01:50 chloe's dilemma 1:06:22 how chloe makes money as a creator 1:10:33 getting pregnant🤰🏻 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When Chloe got laid off this year, she accidentally went viral and reached over 20m+ views online. This spawned a lot of unexpected things - from getting lots of new opportunities to being retweeted into oblivion. It was truly an atypical layoff experience, but was also the catalyst for Chloe and Eric to finally record this pod. Hope you enjoy the very first episode of JOMO with Chloe and Eric! Note: This episode was recorded In February 2024, so some information might be outdated. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 ( @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ( @chloeshih  ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify ∙ youtube → www.youtube.com/@jomopod ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 our silly lil intro 0:25 eric's intro of chloe 7:53 chloe's intro of eric 11:58 what JOMO pod is about 13:39 eric's weekend 18:42 chloe's weekend 20:10 going viral for getting laid off 20:27 getting hate 21:10 going viral in the news 22:13 hate on blind 23:41 eric's take on the hate + layoffs 26:11 new doors opening after the layoffs 28:51 eric's dramatic career w mckinsey, blackstone, facebook 32:31 some weird friend group drama 34:57 lawyering up (getting bullied by an entertainment co) 38:11 creators talking sh*t about chloe 40:40 eric's take on ppl talking sh*t 41:42 was the layoff a good thing? 43:03 dangers of making your life your content 45:55 being shameless going in on content + asking for favors 47:37 pet peeves when ppl ask for favors 50:06 chloe's first impression of eric 52:43 eric's first impression of chloe 57:32 hope u liked this 👉👈 🥺 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to Office Drama!𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tech product manager making educational videos to elevate your career and life! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.