The Pug and Copp Boxing Show: A show about Boxing

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Mike and Lance recap the Mayweather-Paul hug-a-thon, and Mike details his time at the exhibition. Was it a mistake to buy this dog and pony show? What's next for Mayweather? Will he face off against Logan's brother, Jake? On the topic of the latter Paul brother, Jake, himself, responds to questions from Mike and others prior to Sunday's fight. Lastly, the duo preview Stevenson-Nakathila.

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Mike and Lance wrap up their preview of Sunday's Floyd Mayweather-Logan Paul exhibition fight by discussing if novelty fights are here to stay. Plus, Logan, himself, speaks on his upcoming fight.

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Mike and Lance step back into the podcast ring to kibbitz over Devin Haney's victory versus Jorge Linares. Did Haney silence his critics? What's next? Is Ryan Garcia an eventual opponent? Nonito Donaire aka The Filipino Flash illustrated his Hall of Fame candidacy in, yet again, another win. The guys beg the question if Donaire is a first-ballot Hall of Famer. Afterward, Mike details his time in Miami around Floyd Mayweather before jumping to a conversation with Mayweather, himself.

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Mike and Lance welcome future Hall of Fame boxer, Nonito Donaire, to the podcast to discuss his upcoming fight against Nordine Oubaali. Plus, Mike promises he's going to "school" Lance in pound for pound rankings as the duo list today's top fighters.

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Mike and Lance react to Josh Taylor topping Jose Ramirez to become a four-belt undisputed champion. What's next for the 30-year-old belt collector? Is a date with Terence Crawford inevitable? Pug then welcomes Devin Haney to the podcast. Haney previews his Saturday night fight versus Jorge LInares, discusses if he wants Teofimo Lopez next, and more. Pug and Copp respond to Pacquioa-Spence and predict who will win, and, will this be Pacquioa's last go-around? Lastly, Fury-Wilder III is set.

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Mike and Lance follow the rapidly unwinding threads of the Tyson Fury-Anthony Joshua mega-fight to the source so to explain what's led to a generational bout being in jeopardy. Why is this colossal heavyweight clash, which seemed like a given earlier in the week, at risk of falling apart? Will Fury be forced to fight Wilder? If possible, will Fury pay step-aside money to the 35-year-old so that he and AJ can slug it out? Where does Joshua fit in all of this? Why did he claim Fury was a "fraud"? Will he be forced into a mandatory? Is there a chance all these heavyweight showcases could happen this year? Mike begs all these questions to Fury, himself, in an on-site interview. The guys preview a soon-to-be stellar fight between Jose Ramirez and Josh Taylor. Why does it seem there's so little promotion of this fight? Should Ramirez triumph, how will he chisel his name into boxing history? And lastly, who will win?! Plus, Triller's Ryan Kavanaugh on Paul-Mayweather, and the Ivan Redkach embarrassment ends.

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Mike and Lance preview Saturday's Luis Nery-Brandon Figueroa showdown. So...umm...million-dollar question, who will win? Showtime Sports president Stephen Espinoza joins the program to preview Showtime's slate of bouts. Which clashes stand out to the trio? Can we please get a Benavidez-Charlo battle? Why don't we have a Benavidez-Charlo battle??! Espinoza shares his insight in Mayweather-Paul, and discusses Showtime's future plans.

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Mike, doing his best Jon Lovitz 'Rat Race' impression driving cross-country from Arlington to Miami, and Lance breakdown Saturday's mesmerizing Canelo-Billy Joe Saunders fight. The guys chat about the hype leading up to the fight, their scorecards, Canelo's Popeye uppercut that forced Saunders to toss in the towel, and Saunders' status after his surgery to repair a severe orbital bone fracture. Will BJS retire? Will Canelo and Eddie Hearn's partnership continue? Who will fight the pound-for-pound king next? Canelo ceaselessly claimed he's coming for Caleb Plant, so who better to talk about a potential matchup against boxing's current monarch than Plant, himself? Does Plant foresee a deal being made to fight Alvarez? Why does Plant it's "disrespectful" to compare him to BJS? Is Canelo's wealth of fighting experience a concern to Plant? How would that bout be promoted, and why is self-belief so vital to Plant? Lastly, the couplet chitchat about JoJo-Fortuna/Zurdo-Barrera.

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Mike, reporting from AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, and Lance...from home...preview Saturday's Canelo-Billy Joe Saunders showdown. Not much needs to be said here except: who ya got? Plus, Mike's 1-on-1 convo with Eddie Hearn discussing his bounce back from the pandemic; Fury-Joshua, could it be announced on Saturday; and, obviously, his thoughts on Canelo-BJS.

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Lance welcomes DAZN analyst, one-half of the 'JABS with Mannix and Mora' show, and former light middleweight champion, Sergio Mora, to the podcast. Lance and Sergio preview Saturday's blockbuster Canelo-Billy Joe Saunders war. Does BJS have a puncher's chance to win? What will the Brit need to do to prevail? What are some deficiencies in his game Canelo can exploit? Lance joins the pound-for-pound king, himself, Canelo Alvarez, to preview Saturday's glove gauntlet. After, Lance and Sergio predict Saturday's outcome before reflecting on last Saturday's heavyweight fight between Andy Ruiz Jr. and Chris Arreola. What's next for Ruiz, Arreola? Plus, Fury-Joshua thoughts; Paul-Mayweather insight, and Felix Verdejo charged with kidnapping resulting in death, among other charges.

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Mike and Lance recap Edgar Berlanga's win by unanimous decision over Demond Nicholson. Though Berlanga's first-round KO streak stops at 16, he demonstrated his immense talent, who could be next to fight one of boxing's fastest rising stars? The guys touch on Navarette-Diaz and Pacquioa-Crawford negotiations "dead in the water". Lance sits down with Chris Arreola to preview Saturday's heavyweight contest against Andy Ruiz Jr.

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Back from his dank-filled Triller broadcast, MIke describes his experience working with Snoop Dogg, Pete Davidson, Oscar De La Hoya, and more. He and Lance reflect on Jake Paul's first-round knockout of Ben Askren and discuss the social media tumult regarding a fixed fight. The guys also discuss Triller's next boxing bonanza with Lopez-Kambosas as well as Floyd Mayweather-Logan Paul's exhibition is tentatively set for June 5th, which is news that Mike broke. Where could the fight be hosted? What are the stipulations? Eddie Hearn struck a massive deal with DAZN, but what happens next with Sky Sports boxing broadcasts? Undefeated knockout icon Edgar Berlanga joins the guys to preview his fight against Demond Nicholson.

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Mike and Lance revisit Jaron "Boots" Ennis' Saturday night KO of Sergy Lipinets, and discuss the 23-year-old on-the-cusp star's future plans. The guys stay true to the 147-pound motif and rank their top-10 welterweights. Three-time world champion Demetrius "Boo Boo" Andrade joins the podcast to help preview his upcoming showdown against Liam Williams (10:00). Boo Boo outlines what it will take to score a premiere fight; explains why other prodigious fighters avoid him; if he'd be willing to move up in weight class to ink a headlining bout, and if the words "Benevidez-Andrade" are sweet-sounding. Pug and Copp analyze Joe Smith Jr.'s, the newest light heavyweight champion, win over Maxim Vlasov (31:00). Plus, is there anyone Jamie Munguia could fight, and Conor Benn impresses.

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Mike and Lance welcome Triller Chief Boxing Officer Peter Kahn to the podcast to discuss Triller's foray into boxing, its influencers and legends fights, what's next for the company, how Lopez-Kambosos purse bid went down, and so much more. The guys also pick winners for Ennis-Lipinets and Smith Jr.-Vlasov.

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 & Garcia-Fortuna w/ Jaron "Boots" EnnisAfter a career-defining sixth-round TKO, Jamel Herring's future prospects suddenly look a lot brighter and, certainly, more interesting. Mike and Lance educate us on Herring's monumental win over Carl Frampton and discuss his next move (1:30). Mike lists his top 130-pound fighters, which Lance grades (6:30). And, Pug and Copp react to a precocious Shakhram Giyasov and other up-and-coming undercard fighters (15:30). Jaron "Boots" Ennis then hops on the line to preview duel, slated for this weekend, versus Sergey Lipinets (19:00). What can we expect from Boots on Saturday? Boots describes growing up in Philadelphia and how his upbringing shaped him into the fighter he is today. Plus, how important is getting a stoppage? Mike and Lance discuss Ryan Garcia-Javier Fortuna, and some Oscar De La Hoya-DAZN news (42:30).

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Opening Day, earthquakes, and boxing, what more can you ask for from a podcast? Mike and Lance, well, Lance mostly, soak up Opening Day action and discuss Lance's time in San Diego at Canelo's gym. His biggest takeaway from watching the pound-for-pound king up close? Andy Ruiz Jr. The duo discusses Ruiz's weight loss and work ethic (3:30). The guys then preview Carl Frampton-Jamel Herring (7:15) before inviting in Herring, himself, to breakdown Saturday's fight (11:15). Herring shares his admiration for Frampton, what Saturday's deciding factor might be, Tim Bradley's criticism, Shakur Stevenson's comments, and Herring's driving ambition (15:00). Pug and Copp then react to another potential fight in the works, Manny Pacquiao-Terence Crawford (42:00). The pair also kibbitz about more possible exhibition fights, and look ahead to M.J. Akhmadaliev-Ryosuke Iwasa.

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In the 100th episode of The Pug and Copp Boxing Show, the guys rave about two Saturday throwdowns, Ngannou-Miocic (would Ngannou be the greatest boxing heavyweight?) and Whyte-Povetkin (2:00). Mike and Lance dissect Dillian Whyte's revenge fight and discuss his next step. Could it be a date with Deontay Wilder (10:00)? Plus, Povetkin didn't look right. One of the best young 130 pounders, Shakur Stevenson, then joins the podcast to share his thoughts about his upcoming mandatory against Jeremiah Nakathila (16:00). When will Stevenson earn his shot against a big-named fighter? Is Top Rank failing him or does he believe in his promoter? Who would be his dream fight? The guys consider Top Rank's effort level when deciding Stevenson's matchups (36:15). Lastly, Oscar De La Hoya is decidedly making a return to the ring (42:00).

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Mike and Lance discuss Canelo-Saunders pre-sale success and fan attendance. Former two-division champion Carl Frampton then joins the guys to discuss his upcoming fight against Jamel Herring. Frampton also reveals his intention to retire should he lose to Herring. What will it take for 'The Jackal' to win and what does his future hold? The guys also preview Whyte-Povetkin, and detail why Top Rank is "blowing it" with Shakur Stevenson.

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One of boxing's fastest rising stars, Vergil Ortiz, retained that epithet by defeating Maurice Hooker in a seventh-round knockout (1:00). What's next for the 22-year-old phenom, and what about his victory impressed Mike and Lance most? Should he and Terence Crawford fight next? If not, then why? What's next for Artur Beterbeiv after the 36-year-old's 'W' over Adam Deines (10:00)? Mike and Lance then welcome in heavyweight contender, Dillian Whyte, who breaks down his upcoming contest versus Alexander Povetkin (14:30). Whyte discusses pressing for a rematch against Povetkin shortly after his loss in August; a potential Andy Ruiz/Deontay Wilder clash; who the best heavyweight in boxing is, and his new look (17:00). Plus, Whyte describes how "huge" it is to be on Gibraltar currency and his experience managing fighters (35:00). Lastly, Mike and Lance preview Saturday's bout, themselves, and react to Gervonta Davis controversy (46:30).

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Mike and Lance look ahead to Vergil Ortiz Jr.-Maurice Hooker's weekend matchup (:30) before welcoming on Ortiz's promoter, and 11-time boxing world champion, Oscar De La Hoya (5:30). De La Hoya describes Ortiz's maturation as a fighter, and what to expect from the 22-year-old rising star against Hooker. He also details Ryan Garcia's development, and Golden Boy Promotion's evolution (9:30). The trio also discuss De La Hoya's relationship with Canelo; which one issue in boxing he'd like to fix, and if he'll make a return to the ring (15:00). Pug and Copp close the show previewing Beterbiev-Deines (29:00).

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Fresh off Saturday's Fight of the Year candidate in Estrada-Chocolatito II, Mike and Lance react to the split decision outcome and discuss each fighter's future. But, before then, Pug and Copp rift off Fury-Joshua signing a two-fight deal (:30). How does this influence the fight's timeline, and how close are both parties to finalizing their first bout? What's holding up an agreement? Estrada-Chocolatito II was must-watch TV, as the fighters exchanged well over 2,000 punches. Despite a resounding consensus suggesting a draw, why was Carlos Sucre's scorecard heavily skewed towards Estrada (7:45)? Are fights embroiled in controversy now more than ever? Does it distract from the quality of fights? Where do Estrada and Chocolatito go from here, and where does Chocolatito fall in Mike and Lance's pound-for-pound list? Lance welcomes undefeated welterweight, Virgil Ortiz, to the podcast to discuss his upcoming fight against Maurice Hooker (18:30). Ortiz explains the root of his confidence; his new management; a potential Terence Crawford clash, and more! Lastly, guys predict Ortiz-Hooker's outcome; share their thoughts on Benavidez's win, and remember Marvelous Marvin Hagler (38:15).

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Estrada-Chocolatito II, a fight Mike and Lance are both anxiously waiting for, has the guys asking themselves, "is Juan Francisco Estrada" a shoo-in for the HOF (:30)? The guys preview the fight altogether and discuss the legacy of each fighter. Former super middleweight champion, David Benavidez, joins the show to discuss his upcoming bout against Ronald Ellis; wanting to fight Canelo; his enmity towards Caleb Plant, and more (10:30). The duo dig into other boxing news, like Haney-Linares and if Fury-Joshua is "imminent" (27:30)?

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Mike and Lance welcome vice president of boxing operations for Ring City USA Sam Katkovski to the show. Katkovski shares his insight into matchmaking, the hurdles of organizing a fight, and more (5:30). He also discusses Serhii Bohachuk vs. Brandon Adams in Puerto Rico; the adversity women boxers are facing finding platforms and matchmakers as well as Regis Prograis, whom Katkovski manages, eyeing the winner of Taylor-Ramirez (17:30). Plus, Mike and Lance further detail the arduous climb of women boxers today (28:00).

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Canelo Alvarez hardly strained himself versus Avni Yıldırım, making May 8th's highly anticipated Billy Joe Saunder's clash even more interesting for Canelo fans. Mike and Lance look ahead to May's throwdown and discuss BJS's chances of beating Canelo (1:00). Two-belt welterweight champion Jose Ramirez joins Pug and Copp via Zoom to preview his May 22nd unification fight against Josh Taylor (8:00). To Ramirez, could this potentially be the Fight of the Year? What has training been like during the pandemic and does Taylor's southpaw style pose a threat (14:30)? The guys touch on various odds and ends including, Teofimo Lopez-Top Rank fallout; Andy Ruiz-Chris Arreola, and more (38:30).

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Unified lightweight world champion Teofimo Lopez joins Pug and Copp in wake of Triller winning the Lopez-Kambosas purse bid.

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Boxing's pound-for-pound king, Canelo Alvarez, is welcomed by Pug and Copp on today's show. Before Canelo joins the show, Mike and Lance preview his upcoming bout against Avni Yıldırım and discuss the odds and undercard. Canelo explains why he fights as often as he does and then shares his thoughts on fighting in Miami (8:30). After, Canelo delivers his thoughts on his impending fight with Billy Joe Saunders and shares what his intentions are with Caleb Plant (12:30). If Canelo could tackle one issue in boxing, what would it be? Plus, how will he use his promoter's license, is a future fight against GGG possible, and what weakness of Callum Smith did Canelo's team exploit (21:00)? Lastly, Pug and Copp weigh in on if Eddy Reynoso is a shoo-in for Trainer of the Year.

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NEW WBC super featherweight champion Oscar Valdez joins Pug and Copp to discuss his potential Knockout of the Year of Miguel Berchelt. But, before the newly anointed champ breaks down his win, Mike and Lance react to Valdez's victory and what it means moving forward for the 30-year-old. Also, where does Berchelt go from here, and was it prudent for referee Russell Mora to stop the fight sooner? Valdez then shares how being discipline influenced his win. Also, the new champ dispenses his thoughts on his training, his reaction when Berchelt was KO'd, if Shakur Stevenson is next, and Eddy Reynoso's brilliance. Lastly, Pug and Copp evaluate Adrien Broner's future after a dicey victory and a look at Berlanga-Nicholson/Navarstte-Diaz, plus Teofimo's purse bid has, once again, been rescheduled.

Rundown:

(:30) We eat crow...it needs some hot sauce

(9:30) New WBC super featherweight champ Oscar Valdez joins the show

(17:00) Valdez on his knockout, Eddy Reynoso & Shakur Stevenson

(25:30) Broner's win; Berlanga-Nicholson & Teofimo's purse bid

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Strap in for a fantastic show with legendary boxing promoter, Bob Arum. Before Arum joins, Mike and Lance preview Miguel Berchelt-Oscar Valdez, and discuss Adrien Broner-Jovanie Santiago's weight limit change. Pug, Copp, and Arum examine the Mexico v. Mexico showdown on ESPN. Is comparing the possible showcase Berchelt-Valdezmay may offer to Barrera-Morales I fair? The trio zero in on the odds for the fight, and will a Valdez win dispel any notion of underachieving? What's the latest on Herring-Frampton, and will the MIddle East soon be a nexus for boxing action? With a stacked 130-pound division, how will matchmaking work? Plus, Taylor-Ramierz; Teofimo Lopez's purse bid, and Fury-Joshua. Lastly, Pug and Copp answer a pair of mailbag questions.

Rundown:

(1:00) Berchelt-Valdez preview; Haney-Linares & Broner weight

(11:00) Bob Arum joins P&C

(21:30) Herring-Frampton

(26:30) Teofimo purse bid; Taylor-Ramirez & Fury-Joshua

(38:45) Mailbag Qs

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News is a fluttering! Mike and Lance react to an action-packed weekend, starting with JoJo Diaz missing weight. Though staving off Shavkat Rakhimov to a draw, what's the next step for the 28-year-old boxer? Brian Castano's unanimous decision over Patrick Teixeira opens the door for a 154-pound showdown between the former and, most likely, Jermell Charlo. Who would win that bout? Tenderfoot 22-year-old Mauricio Lara clocked Josh Warrington, earning the latter his first professional loss via TKO. What do the guys make of the upset? Where do Lara and, particularly, Warrington go from here? Next, former four-division world champion Adrien Broner joins the podcast. Broner previews his upcoming glove gauntlet against Jovanie Santiago. Plus, Broner opens up about his past, his next chapter, and the Manny Pacquiao fight. Lastly, Pug and Copp examine Saturday's undercard and discuss Broner's future.

Rundown:

(2:00) Diaz misses weight & 130-pound title

(7:30) Castano v. Charlo?

(14:00) Warrington takes first loss

(19:45) Adrien Broner joins the podcast

(33:45) Undercard preview + what's next for Broner?

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Note: Our interview with Smith Jr. was recorded before Thursday's fight postponement announcement. Still, please enjoy the pod. And make sure to compliment Mike on his turtlenecks and Lance on his infinite optimism on Twitter.

Pug and Copp kick off the episode discussing Joe Smith Jr.-Maxim Vlasov, a battle for the vacant WBO light heavyweight title. The guys examine the Xs and Os and keys to the fight. Are everyone's Ryan Garcia-Manny Pacquiao dreams dead? Smith Jr. then joins the podcast to preview his title clash against Vlasov. What strategy must he execute to win? What did he learn from fighting Dmitry Bivol, Jesse Hart and Eleider Alvarez? How did his humble beginnings as a construction worker shape him into the fighter he is today? And what is his lasting memory from knocking out Bernard Hopkins? Mike and Lance ponder Smith and Vlaslov's future, and explore the stacked light heavyweight division. Lastly, we answer your questions, including: Josh Warrington vacating the IBF belt; Kinahan, MTK and morality and what's the latest on Deontay Wilder?

Rundown:

(1:00) Smith Jr.-Vlasov preview + Garcia-Pacquiao terminated?

(9:00) Joe Smith Jr. joins the show

(15:00) Competitive fights; growth as boxer; Hopkins memory

(25:00) Prodigious light heavyweight division

(28:15) Listener mailbag

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In a loaded February brimming with exciting fights, Mike and Lance dive into Saturday's DAZN card featuring Joseph "JoJo" Diaz-Shavkatdzhon Rakhimov and Patrick Teixeira-Brian Castano as co-mains. The duo focus in on Diaz's ascension, and where he falls in the 130-pound pecking order. Then, Diaz, himself, joins Pug and Copp to preview his first title defense versus . Diaz also provides insight into his mindset after his 2018 loss to Gary Russell Jr.; the ongoing drama with Tevin Farmer; joining MTK and its lawsuit; Rakhimov controversy and more. Pug and Copp cap finish today's show by discussing the 130-pound landscape, and analyzing odds for DAZN's card.

Rundown:

(1:00) Diaz-Rakhimov; Teixeira-Castano

(5:30) JoJo Diaz joins the show

(10:30) Diaz on Rakhimov, Farmer & MTK

(20:15) Rakhimov controversy

(28:00) Weekend bets

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Mike welcomes WBO super-middleweight champion Billy Joe Saunders to discuss his monumental fight against Canelo Alvarez. Does the 31-year-old champion feel more prepared for Canelo after a year of waiting? Will a fighter of Canelo's caliber force Saunders to rise to the occasion (5:30)? Is comparing Callum Smith's chances against Canelo to Saunders fair (9:30)? The Englishman then opens up about his friendship with Tyson Fury (11:15) before speaking out about his willingness to "live in Hell" in order to defeat the world's pound for pound champ (15:00). Lastly, how will Saunders' Southpaw style manage against Canelo, and what's his relationship like with Daniel Kinahan (17:15)?

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Mike and Lance discuss the potential fallout of Conor McGregor's loss to Dustin Poirier, and what it means for fighters like Ryan Garcia and Manny Pacquiao. After, the guys welcome undefeated, WBC lightweight champion Devin Haney to the podcast to chat about his...monkey?! Haney also shares his thoughts on Ryan Garcia's early January win, building his brand, working with Eddie Hearn and what's next for himself. Lastly, Pug and Copp converse about Stephen Fulton's victory over Angelo Leo, a call for David Benavidez-Caleb Plant and more.

Rundown:

(:45) McGregor fallout

(8:00) Devin Haney joins the show

(13:30) Fortuna; Garcia; Brand building; Hearn and more

(24:00) Fulton-Leo reaction; give us Benevidez-Plant

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In a sport overflowing with young talent, Lance identifies his top-25 boxers under the age of 25 with the help of Mike. Who on Lance's list is overrated, underrated and what ranking does Mike take offense to? The guys are then joined by sports promoter and managing director of Matchroom Sports, Eddie Hearn. Hearn details his business relationship with Canelo Alvarez; Miami as an untapped boxing market; Anthony Joshua v. Tyson Fury; belts and future fights. To wrap, Mike and Lance jive about Sergey Kovalev's future, and react to a Crawford-Spence update.

Rundown:

(:45) 25 under 25

(11:00) Eddie Hearn joins P&C: Miami market + Canelo

(16:45) Joshua-Fury

(23:30) Belts

(30:00) US schedule & more

(35:15) Kovalev future

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Mike and Lance greet 22-year-old boxing phenom, Ryan Garcia, to the program (1:15). Garcia revisits his win over Luke Campbell, a victory that secured him the interim WBC lightweight title. What does bearing a title mean to him, and how about dispelling any doubts about his ability? Garcia explains his position on curating fights and furthering his, and others', careers (6:45). Is Gervonta "Tank" Davis in Garcia's crosshairs? What roadblocks, if any, serve as obstacles in a potential Davis fight, and, hypothetically, at what point would he move on from a fight with Davis (11:30)? What is the current state of Garcia and promoter, Oscar De La Hoya's, relationship (14:15)? The trio discuss the young star's rapidly increasing notoriety and how he's trying to find balance in his work and personal life (16:45). Are there too many belts in the sport? Garcia believes so (22:00). Plus, Garcia speaks on his relationship with Canelo Alvarez (26:00). Pug and Copp sink their teeth into Vergil Ortiz Jr. and Maurice Hooker's agreement to fight, and more before wrapping up today's show (28:30).

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Mike and Lance react to another Ryan Garcia knockout, this time of Luke Campbell, arguably Garcia's biggest-named win to date (:30). What does the KO mean for Garcia's future? Who will the undefeated Campbell tackle next? Undisputed lightweight champion of the world Teofimo Lopez then joins P&C to discuss his title and Garcia's win (6:30). Lopez discusses his possible mandatory bout against George Kambosos, and what a fight on international soil would mean for his brand (11:45). The trio react to Lomachenko's comments about the validity of Lopez's win (16:15) before Lopez ranks the top lightweights. Plus, the 23-year-old speaks on his confidence, betting on himself, learning through adversity and who'd he like to challenge next (19:00). Pug and Copp finish the show discussing the 135 lbs weight class and what to expect from them in 2021 and beyond (34:15).

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Mike and Lance are back and amped for Luke Campbell and Ryan Garcia to ring in the new year with a prime time fight (1:00). Will Garcia's inexperience against top-tier opponents show against Campbell? And will the 33-year-old Campbell shake off last year's loss to Vasyl Lomachenko, and rise to the occasion to defeat one of the sport's brightest, young stars? Campbell, himself, answers those questions as he joins Pug and Copp (6:00). Plus, has Campbell really not seen any film of Garcia (20:00)? The guys preview another bout featuring one of the game's rising stars, Kosei Tanaka, a three-weight world champion, as he faces off against the established Kazuto Ioka (24:45). Lastly, Mike and Lance announce The Athletic's pick for the Fighter of the Year honors (27:45).

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Mike and Lance react to Canelo Alvarez's convincing win over Callum Smith to unify supper middleweight titles. Is Canelo, without a doubt, the best boxer in the world currently? Who do we want to see fight the champion next?

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Mike and Lance examine Saturday's Anthony Joshua-Kubrat Pulev bout, and ponder if Joshua-Fury is what's next on the menu (:30). Could the WBO and president Paco Valcarcel throw a wrench in fans' daydream of Joshua-Fury? What's the likelihood Oleksandr Usyk earns a mandatory fight against AJ (6:45)? The guys preview Canelo-Smith and toss around the thought of Canelo-GGG III should boxing's pound-for-pound king prevail this weekend (11:00). Super-middleweight champion Callum Smith joins the program to share his thoughts on his upcoming battle against Canelo Alvarez (18:30). How does Smith feel being the fight's underdog? What does this matchup mean to the 30-year-old, whose brother, Liam, fell at the hands of Canelo four years ago? What would the reception from the UK audience be should he and Billy Joe Saunders trade blows (27:00)? Plus, what does Smith think of Canelo not shying away from challenging competition, much like himself? The gents applaud Edgar Berlanga's incredible streak and more before wrapping up the show (34:30).

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One of the sport's heaviest hitters, Anthony Joshua, joins today's show! Mike and Lance share their thoughts on Joshua's upcoming fight against Kubrat Pulev, and what they expect from their bout (1:00). Joshua, himself, breaks down Pulev's style and dishes on what he expects from 39-year-old Bulgarian (6:30). What did Joshua learn from his clashes against Andy Ruiz (10:15)? Did his loss to Ruiz ultimately help him improve his fight preparation? What thought, if any, does he have on Deontay Wilder's baseless accusations towards Tyson Fury (11:30)? Plus, what are Joshua's thoughts on elevating his stardom even further as his career progresses, and what's his friendship with Wladimir Klitschko been like (13:00)? The guys cover Errol Spence Jr.'s win over Danny Garcia, and if Terence Crawford is next for Spence Jr. (21:15). Where does Spence Jr. fall on Pug and Copp's pound-for-pound standings? Lastly, the duo chat about Mayweather-Paul (34:00).

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Mike and Lance react to what a, surprisingly, entertaining Tyson-Jones Jr. exhibition fight (1:00). What can promoters and networks learn from this, by all accounts, successful fight? Despite the seething screeds from Twitter-goers, particularly those in the boxing community, Jake Paul did, and has done, a great job promoting himself and his brand (5:00). Could we see more celebrity/influencer fights like this in the future? Former 140-pound and welterweight champion Danny Garcia stops by to preview his upcoming fight against Errol Spence Jr. (16:00). What does Garcia expect out of Spence, and is he surprised that Spence chose him as his first opponent since his car accident? Does Garcia consider himself a lock for the Hall of Fame if he defeats Spence? The guys cap off the show discussing Dubois-Joyce upset, the atrocious Rosado-Jacobs "fight" and Claressa Shields prepares for the MMA (27:00).

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Mike Coppinger and Lance Pugmire welcome former welterweight champion and Ring City USA analyst Shawn Porter to discuss the latest boxing news, including Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr.'s upcoming exhibition fight (1:00); the future of heavyweight (7:00); Porter's first foray into an the analyst chair (11:30); what are the prospects of fighting Terence Crawford (14:30) and the triumvirate preview Errol Spence Jr.-Danny Garcia (17:00). Pug and Copp also tackle Jacobs-Rosado, GGG news, Ryan Garia-Luke Campbell and Texas hypocrisy (23:00).

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Mike and Lance react to breaking news of Canelo Alvarez and Callum Smith finalizing a deal to fight each other on December 19th on DAZN (1:00). Just how momentous is Canelo's return for boxing? Is this an ideal matchup for both fighters? How big of a win is this for DAZN and Eddie Hearn? Can Smith shake off his recent string of tepid fights and rise to the occasion? Unified welterweight champion, Errol Spence Jr, joins Pug and Copp to preview his upcoming scrum against Danny Garcia (9:45). Is Spence surprised by Bob Arum's recent pointed comments directed at him? How optimistic is he in his return following last year's injurious car wreck? When did Spence realize he was ready to lace his gloves up against Garcia? Is there a chance of a Canelo, Pacquiao and/or Crawford fight in the future, and has Spence's lease on life changed since his accident? Mike and Lance review Terence Crawford-Kell Brook and react to the Joshua Franco-Andrew Moloney madness (35:15).

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Mike and Lance sort through an avalanche of boxing news, including Canelo Alvarez potentially returning to DAZN (1:30). Who would trade blows with Canelo should their relationship mend? Could Wilder-Fury III really happen? Pug and Copp converse about Deontay Wilder and his representation's intention to force Tyson Fury into a trilogy (5:30). Former IBF welterweight champion, Kell Brook, jumps on Zoom with the guys to chat about his upcoming fisticuff with Terence Crawford (10:30). How confident is Brook ahead of Saturday's clash, and how close, ability-wise, is the 34-year-old to when he beat Shawn Porter in 2014 (12:45)? Does Brook regret fighting GGG (15:30), and is he aware of the doubt surrounding his chance at victory (20:00)? Plus, is Brook concerned about the loyalty of his long-time promoter, Eddie Hearn (23:15)? Copp and Pug react to some of Brook's comments and ponder what Crawford would do if he wins (25:15). The guys cap off today's show by responding to Luke Campbell's positive Covid-19 test, Devin Haney's uninspired win over Gamboa and Alexander Flores scrutiny by CSAC (31:45).

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Canelo Alvarez and Golden Boy's marriage is coming to an end. Mike Coppinger and Lance Pugmire breakdown the separation and what's next for Canelo.

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Pug and Copp welcome WBC lightweight title-holder Devin Haney to today's show (1:30). The triumvirate talk about Haney's upcoming bout against Yuriorkis Gamboa, and whether a knockout improves Haney's stature, especially when discussing Gervonta Davis. What does Haney think about the competition at 135-pounds and the "Four Horsemen" at this weight class (3:30)? What happened to the Gary Russell Jr. fight (5:30)? Haney attempts to elaborate on the confusion circulating around WBC and its franchises (7:45). What is his relationship with Floyd Mayweather like (14:15), and what's the pecking order at 135-pounds (15:15)? Mike and Lance revisit Saturday's showdown between Gervonta Davis and Leo Santa Cruz (18:15). What's next for both fighters? The guys tour Saturday's undercard, including Regis Prograis' swift KO and even swifter return home to witness the birth of his third child (22:30). Naoya Inoue is the real deal, but where does he stack up in pound-for-pound (28:45)? Oleksandr Usyk escaped with a win over Dereck Chisora (35:15). Plus, what's going on with Deontay Wilder and his baseless accusations towards fighters (39:00)?

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Mike Coppinger and Lance Pugmire react to Gervonta Davis' dazzling victory over Leo Santa Cruz in six rounds.

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Another contender for Fight of the Year in the form of Estrada-Cuadras deserves a deeper dive from Mike and Lance (1:00). The duo praise Juan Francisco Estrada in his TKO of Carlos Cuadras, who, himself, fought well, and gaze into the future at Chocolatito-Estrada II, which may be a squabble featuring two future hall of famers. Mike details what he saw from Lipinets-Clayton in their clash for the IBF interim welterweight title (8:00). Will Leo Santa Cruz pull off the upset over Gervonta Davis? Lance certainly believes so (10:00). Why will the 32-year-old come away victorious? Is there a secret to his potential success? How will he tackle Davis? 27-year-old rising star, Naoya Inoue, is set to make a splash in the U.S. against Jason Moloney at the MGM (16:30). Will Inoue finally make waves state-side? Could Moloney spoil the Japanese boxer's coming out party? Pug and Copp top off today's show previewing Usyk-Chisora (24:00).

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In this jumbo edition of Pug and Copp, the titular hosts react to Teofimo Lopez's wild victory over Vasiliy Lomachenko (:30). What does this victory mean for Lopez, and what about the loss for Lomachenko? What was said after the fight (9:00)? What can we glean from the promising ratings (15:30)? Plus, Mike and Lance share their updated pound-for-pound rankings after Lopez-Lomachenko (18:30). Next, the guys welcome WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman to the program to discuss this past weekend's blockbuster bout (22:00). Sulaiman and Mike debate the worth and level of pellucidity of franchise champions (23:15), and Sulaiman elaborates of Lopez's authority as a franchise champion (27:30). Is there a chance the franchise champion designation will be reevaluated because of apparent confusion (30:00)? What's the future of judging? The trio talk enhancing scorekeeping following an egregious tally by a judge in Saturday's fight (34:15). Sulaiman details the advent of WBC's new 224-pound weight division (40:30). What purpose does this new class serve? Who could we potentially see featured in this strata, and, again, is this another wrinkle that will confuse fans rather than amp them up?

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Before welcoming 130-pound champion, Leo Santa Cruz, to the program, Mike and Lance react to the fated third act of the Deonte Wilder-Tyson Fury saga crumbling before the boxing world, as scheduling conflicts belabored a fight date and sparked irritation (1:00). What's next for both Wilder and Fury? Who are some possible opponents the rearing-to-go Fury could face? Santa Cruz then joins the program to discuss his upcoming fight with Gervonta Davis, his relationship with Al Hayman and his father's, Jose, health (12:30). Copp and Pug tie up a loose end on their way out: analyzing the looming Teofimo Lopez-Vasyl Lomachenko punching parade (25:30).

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Pug and Copp welcome the 140-pound, 31-year-old, Jose Zepeda, who delivered a closing-time punch to Ivan Baranchyk on Saturday for, potentially, the best knockout of the year (1:00). Zepeda shares his state of mind while being knocked down before landing the decisive strike. What fight does he believe to be inspiring (5:15)? Zepeda chronicles the aftermath of the bout, including he and Baranchyk's trip to the hospital (6:30) before detailing how he nearly retired back in 2015 (8:15). The southpaw reflects on his loss to Jose Ramirez a year go (9:15), and who's next on Zepeda's radar (12:00)? After parting with last Saturday's victor, Mike and Lance discuss WBO potentially stripping Jose Ramirez of his title while Jack Catterall remains an overdue mandatory (16:15). The duo preview upcoming bouts including Gervonta Davis vs. Leo Santa Cruz, which moved from October 24 to Halloween in San Antonio and has permitted a limited amount of live spectators (25:00). Before closing today's show, Navarette v. Villa thoughts, Wilder-Fury III hold up, and Dubois-Joyce date.

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Mike and Lance react to Saturday's mammoth-sized Charlo pay per view doubleheader (1:00). Just how impressive were Jermall and Jermell's wins over Derevyanchenko and Rosario, respectively? What's next for the up-and-coming stars? Fans and reporters, alike, were further indulged by stupendous undercard scraps between John Riel Casimero and Duke Micah for the WBO bantamweight title, and Luis Nery's gutsy unanimous decision over Aaron Alameda for the WBC super bantamweight belt (7:00). Lance recalls last weekend's call with an apoplectic Bob Arum, who was railing against Josh Taylor's mandatory against Apinun Khongsong in which the latter of the two fighters was dropped in one hit (10:15). The guys discuss mandatories and how they can be improved. Super middleweight prosepect, Edgar Berlanga, who has 14-consecutive first-round knockouts, join Pug and Copp to discuss his astonishing streak as well as his future, overcoming adversity, his upcoming bout against Lanell Bellows, last Saturday's PPV and more (14:30). Before clocking out, the duo discuss the agreed-upon Terence Crawford-Kell Brook fight (25:45). Could Brook make this a fight or is this another run of the mill outing for Crawford? Plus, a quick look at Jose Zepeda-Ivan Baranchyk on ESPN Plus (29:15).

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Mike and Lance gather to react to breaking news of Canelo Alvarez being offered upwards of $20 million per fight. What does this mean for one of the sport's biggest stars? Where does Golden Boy and Oscar De La Hoya sit in all of this? Was this a smart move by DAZN?

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Pug and Copp welcome WBC 154-pound champion Jermell Charlo to preview Saturday's pay per view spectacular (1:00). Charlo assesses his upcoming headline fight versus Jeison Rosario, and breaks down his 25-year-old opponent's boxing style. Charlo describes the depth of his career before speaking his mind about his first foray into pay per view (5:00). Charlo explains his feelings about boxing on the same night as his brother, Jermall, and their overall growth (6:45). How much attention will Jermell give his brother's bout (10:00)? Is this Jermall's toughest task to date? Plus, the enjoyment of battling at 154-pounds (12:15). Mike and Lance preview Saturday's undercards, including Nery-Alameda (13:30) and Casimero-Micah (18:00). Is the cost of Showtime's PPV extravaganza too much (21:30)? The guys revisit Lubin-Gausha and Dana White's comments about Showtime (26:15). To wrap it up, a Canelo update, exploring Teófimo López's Q&A, Usyk-Chisora confirmed (28:30).

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Mike and Lance graph the biggest news in the boxing world, Canelo Alvarez files a lawsuit against Oscar De La Hoya ,Golden Boy and DAZN after their strife finally boiled over (:30). Kurt Emhoff, sports and entertainment attorney at Kasowitz, Benson & Torres, joins P&C to further elaborate on Canelo's lawsuit (12:30). The trio talk about the language in Canelo's contract with DAZN as well as whether Emhoff would allow a client to sign a deal without knowing the full extent of the terms (14:30). How long will Canelo be sidelined (21:00)? Is it fair to expect a counter suit (24:30)? Pug and Copp finish off today's show discussing Mean Machine-Zewski; Lubin-Gausha; Charlo pay per view price and Whyte-Povetkin (30:00).

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Super middleweight champion Billy Joe Saunders joins Mike and Lance on today's show! The trio talk everything under the sun, including waiting on Canelo and his continued drama with DAZN; the possibility of squaring off against Callum Smith; his friendship with Tyson Fury and relationship with MTK Global, and the likelihood of a Demetrius Andrade bout. Afterwards, Mike and Lance dive into the minutia of Canelo and DAZN's contention before gabbing over Top Rank's schedule. Lastly, a look at NBC's return to boxing and the Jamel Herring controversy.

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Unified light-welterweight champion, Josh Taylor, joins Mike and Lance on today's show (:30). Taylor shares his thoughts on the outcome of Jose Ramirez and Viktor Postol's bout, and what he was able to glean from the fight. Will an eventual clash with Ramirez be a coming out party for him in the states (3:30)? Would Taylor apply the same approach he used to defeat Regis Prograis against Ramirez (7:30)? Is a move to 147 pounds in his future (11:00)? Taylor then addresses last year's incident at a bar in Scotland (12:00) before discussing what he'd like to display for audiences who aren't as familiar with him (15:30). After their chat with Taylor, Mike and Lance share their impressions of the Ramirez-Postol clash (18:30). Following his convincing win over Greg Venetti, could Erislandy Lara step in front of Jarrett Hurd, Julian Williams, etc. for the winner of Charlo-Rosario (26:00)? Lastly, the guys impart their thoughts about Herring-Oquendo (31:15).

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Welcome back to another edition of the Pug and Copp Boxing Show! Mike and Lance breakdown Povetkin's massive, knockout uppercut levied against Whyte (1:00). What were the guys' impressions from one of the first major fights since February? What will it take for Whyte to work himself back into title contention (4:45)? What ripple effects were created from Joe Smith Jr.'s victory over Eleider Álvarez (10:00)? The guys preview a significant title fight between José Ramírez and Viktor Postol (15:00) before inviting Ramírez, himself, onto the show to speak on his upcoming bout (19:15). Ramírez reveals his frustration working through three training camps in order to prepare for this match up, which had been postponed twice before because of the pandemic (20:00). What's Ramírez's strategy against Postol (24:00), and what does the film say about him (27:45)? Is the expectation to challenge Josh Taylor after (29:00), and would fighting Terence Crawford be a career-defining fight (31:00)? Mike and Lance wrap the show by discussing Erislandy Lara and what value his duel against Greg Vendetti carries (35:00), plus PBC main event outlook (38:00).

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In today's loaded episode, Mike and Lance examine a set of can't-miss bouts, the first of their kind since February, in Whyte-Povetkin, and Alvarez-Smith on ESPN (1:15). Will Whyte get Fury-Wilder winner by winning? Does Alvarez next get Artur Beterbiev, and who’s supposed to fight September 25th in Russia? It appears Canelo Alvarez may have his next fight set, though not of his own volition; the WBC has “ordered” the 30-year-old world champion to fight Avni Yildirim for the vacant 168 belt formerly belonging to David Benavidez (13:45). Can the WBC order Canelo to do anything now that he has Franchise status, and when will canelo fight given the behind-the-scenes battle with DAZN? The guys then welcome 2017 Trainer of the Year and mentor to Errol Spence Jr. and Jermell Charlo, Derrick James, to the program (18:45). James details Spence Jr.'s recovery and training since a late 2019 car wreck left him with various injuries. What conversations were had between James and Spence Jr. when deciding to fight Danny Garcia (21:15)? Is the best and, maybe, only way to gauge Spence Jr.'s progress since his accident is by him fighting in the ring (24:45)? What does being the main event on September 26th mean to Jermell Charlo, and what are the keys to his match up against Jeison Rosario (27:15)? Mike and Lance put a bow on today's show by discussing Loma-Lopez on ESPN (34:15).

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PBC formally announced their rest-of-year schedule recently, nudging Mike and Lance to dive into the four months worth of matches (:30). What, if anything, is lacking in the schedule? Which fight already has the guys excited? Former HBO marketing executive and host of the 'Fistianados Podcast', Evan Rutkowski, then joins the program to posit his expectations for upcoming pay per view bouts (14:00). Lastly, Mike and Lance pen their takeaways from Jamal James' victory (31:15).

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Lance and Mike welcome Showtime Sports President Stephen Espinoza to today's show. The trio start by diving into the Paulie Malignaggi controversy and Showtime parting ways with the 39-year-old ex-boxer turned commentator (:45). After, the group reacts to Showtime's first televised fight since the beginning wave of Covid-19 stuck the U.S. (2:45). Does FOX executive Bill Wagner's comments about the broadcast company's extensive access to PBC content hold water (5:45)? What was said between Espinoza and Al Haymond when discussing Showtime's boxing schedule (9:15)? Is Showtime leery about returning to pay per view amid the financial strain stemming from Coronavirus (13:00)? How vested is Showtime in expanding their boxing content (23:15)? Did ESPN's underwhelming ratings hurt boxing (24:15)? How would Espinoza manage the Canelo Alvarez/DAZN friction (27:15), and will Fury/Wilder III reach the same heights the previous fights did (29:30)? Mike and Lance conclude today's show by canvassing the Errol Spence Jr.-Danny Garcia bout that has been finalized for November 21st (31:30).

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Mike and Lance welcome three-time world champion Gervonta Davis to the show (:30). The trio discuss Davis' pay per view debut; his expectations for the impending Leo Santa Cruz bout (1:30); his upbringing in Baltimore and how it's shaped him into a role model (3:15); potential fight locations and his sense of the atmosphere without fans (6:30); the surplus of talent at 135 lbs and who he believes are the most technically gifted fighters aside from himself (11:15), and the task of dropping to 130 lbs (17:15). Mike and Lance cover Showtime's schedule, and breakdown the listed fights (18:45) before providing an update on Loma-Lopez (29:15). The guys wrap up today's show by chatting Tyson-Jones Jr., Vergil Ortiz and an updated FOX Sports schedule (33:30).  

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Welcome to another edition of the Pug and Copp Boxing Show! Mike and Lance deliberate who will fight Canelo Alvarez and, if the likely choice, Callum Smith, can't agree to terms to scrap, what other boxers could Alvarez square off against (:30)? What's delaying the Vasyl Lomachenko v. Teófimo López tussle (6:30)? How good is Vergil Ortiz really (10:30)? Is Oscar Valdez's versus Miguel Berchelt within the realm of possibility (15:15)? Plus, who could replace Julio Cesar Martinez on August 15th (20:00), and the guys discuss Nevada electing to conceal purse sheets going forward (22:45).

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Mike and Lance react to news broke by Mike that Jermall Charlo and Sergiy Derevyanchenko are in the process of finalizing a fight (:30). What can we expect from the bout, and who can we expect Canelo to dance with (6:00)? Charlo, the WBC middleweight champion of the world, joins the guys to discuss Derevyanchenko (7:10), responding to criticism (8:30), coming up with his twin brother, Jermell (9:45), the potential of fighting at 168 lbs (13:45) and how far off is a Canelo fight (16:15)? The guys wrap today's show by tacking the growing rift between Ryan Garcia and Golden Boy Promotions (19:15).

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With the option of challenging either Canelo Álvarez or Jermall Charlo, who will Serhiy Derevyanchenko choose (:30)? Mike and Lance deliberate whether this could be a monumental opportunity for Charlo to silence critics regarding his tepid resume (4:15). And, should Derevyanchenko agree to clash with Charlo, who does Canelo fight (9:25)? Who should Ryan Garcia square off against next, Luke Campbell or Emanuel Tagoe (and where would this leave Devin Haney -- 15:00)? The guys react to DAZN's schedule (21:15), and Top Rank continues to compile awful rankings and crippling cancellations (25:00).

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The one-two punch of Mike and Lance react to Mike's report of Jarrell Miller testing positive for a performance enhancing substance (:45). If it's confirmed that the 31-year-old doped yet again, should he face a lifetime ban (3:45)? The guys broach how testing should be managed to mitigate/avoid potential instances like this one in the future (8:00). Promoters Eddie Hearn and Lou DiBella's discourse over the canceled Amanda Serrano/Katie Taylor mega-fight, recently spilled into the public space. Should Serrano have continued to pursue the brawl, and was Hearn in the wrong for threatening legal action against Serrano if she appeared on Telemundo's series, "Exatlón" (14:15)? Is there a world in which this relationship is mended (18:15)? Lastly, a brief preview to Jorge Linares versus Javier Fortuna is coupled with lauding the corral of talent at 130 to 140-pounds (22:45).

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Mike and Lance give context to the discord between Regis Prograis and Maurice Hooker (:20) before inviting former junior welterweight champion of the world, Prograis, onto the program (7:50). Prograis shares why he denounced Hooker's invite to fisticuffs at 147 pounds and chimes in on the latter's "lack of discipline" (10:45). The 31-year-old fighter also contemplates waiting for his chance to challenge for a belt at 140 pounds (14:45); could the Hooker bout be salvaged (17:00); what experienced was gained from the Josh Taylor fight (19:00), and Prograis delivers a message on P&C to Hooker and his trainer, Brian 'Bomac' McIntyre (21:30). Lance and Mike canvass the welterweight scene (23:15), discuss the chances of Manny Pacquaio v. Mikey Garcia; taking into consideration Pacquaio's duties as senator during the pandemic (29:45), and the the Ryan Garcia/Golden Boy saga continues (32:00).

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Lance and Mike talk about Ryan Garcia publicly fighting with Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions over a big discrepancy in salary for his next fight, Canelo’s ongoing discussions with DAZN regarding his next opponent, Regis Prograis vs. Maurice Hooker currently on hold, Fury-Wilder 3 likely to happen on December 19, and more.

Then, WBO Featherweight champion Shakur Stevenson joins the show following his impressive win over Felix Caraballo to discuss “the bubble” experience, his ideal weightclass, potential fights with Miguel Berchelt and Ryan Garcia, comparisons to Floyd Mayweather, why he feels he’ll be the #1 pound-for-pound fighter five years from now, and more.

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Lance and Mike welcome Top Rank President Todd deBoef to the show to discuss the biggest challenges in bringing boxing back, starting with the Shakur Stevenson-Felix Caraballo card tonight, Shakur’s potential star power, setting up a “bubble” to keep everyone, including Bob Arum, safe and healthy on site for the fights, Fury-Wilder 3, Dana White’s approach to fighter pay, and much more.

First, the guys talk about Canelo’s search for a new opponent with potential options including Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Caleb Plant, Anthony Durrell, Jamie Munguia, David Lemieux, Billy Joe Saunders, and others, as well as Anthony Joshua’s knee injury and how it could affect his fall bout with Kubrat Pulev.

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Lance and Mike are joined by four of boxing’s premier managers, Keith Connolly, Guadalupe Valencia, Sam Katkovski, and Peter Kahn, to discuss the state of the sport amidst the coronavirus pandemic, potential returns to the ring, and much more.

First, the reigning Manager of the Year, Keith Connolly, discusses what he believes will be the biggest change coming out of quarantine, negotiations in the Covid era, the future of DAZN, what could be next for some of his fighters, including Danny Jacobs, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, and Adam Kownacki, and more.

Next, Guadalupe Valencia talks about the issues with getting guys back into the ring, a possible July 4 return date for Ryan Garcia, as well as his potential stardom, how being a lawyer and being bilingual has helped him as a manager, Jessie Vargas’s plans, and more.

Then, Churchill Boxing’s Sam Katkovski discusses working with director Peter Berg, and how being able to leverage connections in Hollywood has changed things for him, Regis Prograis vs. Maurice Hooker, dealing with a number of different promoters, the potential for a “market correction” in fighter pay going forward, everything being part of the job description for a manager, and more.

Finally, Peter Kahn joins the show and talks about the the most common question he’s getting from his fighters right now, cultivating real relationships with his roster of clients, an anecdote about when he was wronged by a boxer he used to work with, zany requests he gets from fighters, feeling honored to work with Xander Zayas, setting expectations, Don King, and more.

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Lance and Mike welcome the head of Matchroom Boxing, Eddie Hearn, to discuss a wide range of topics including his desire to create impressive visuals for boxing’s inevitable return without spectators, using the return from quarantine as a catalyst for making high value matchups, Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua, Canelo Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders, Manny Pacquiao vs. Mikey Garcia, entering the golden era of women’s boxing with the likes of Katie Taylor, Amanda Serrano, Cecilia Braekhus, and Jessica McCaskill, how he’s adjusted to the pause in his extremely busy schedule, and more. Plus, Eddie’s thoughts on Dana White and his comments about Eddie on last week’s episode.

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Lance and Mike are joined by UFC President Dana White to discuss the successful return of combat sports on Saturday night at UFC 249, dealing with the criticism he received while trying to put the event together safely, the steps needed to fix boxing, and Eddie Hearn as the man to potentially make it happen, Stephen Espinoza, Oscar De La Hoya, Donald Trump, and much more.  

Plus, the guys wrap up the show with their thoughts on Dana’s comments, as well as give some updates on fights to look forward to like Gervonta Davis vs. Leo Santa Cruz.

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Lance and Mike welcome longtime boxing promoter Lou DiBella to the show and discuss how he’s dealing with the uncertainty of the moment during the coronavirus pandemic, what a return to the ring will look like for fighters, which fights will make sense out of the gate, options for recreating the live crowd atmosphere in the absence of fans, the concept of remote judging, his thoughts on WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman’s coronavirus protocol suggestions, Dana White and the UFC leading combat sports back to action on May 9, whether a Tyson Fury-Anthony Joshua fight makes sense before a Tyson Fury-Deontay Wilder trilogy bout or not, his Hall of Fame induction, and more.

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Lance and Mike are joined by the four-division world title holder and 1990s Fighter of the Decade, the great Roy Jones Jr., to discuss a variety of topics including how he’s dealing with the current coronavirus shutdown, which current boxers impress him the most, how close he came to fighting Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield back in the day, his greatest career regret, lessons he learned from Muhammad Ali, his toughest opponent, his relationship with Vladimir Putin, and much more.

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Legendary promoter Bob Arum joins Lance and Mike to discuss a wide range of topics including his relationship with marijuana since the 1960s, his decision to never retire, the successful airing of classic Top Rank bouts on ESPN, planning a return to boxing with two to three shows a week beginning in June, Dana White’s “cowboy” approach to bringing MMA back, potential lasting effects of the pandemic, Fury-Wilder 3, working with Don King, and much more.

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Lance and Mike are joined by trainer Abel Sanchez to break down the Canelo Alvarez-Gennady Golovkin rivalry, from his perspective as Triple G’s longtime trainer, as well as discuss the possibility of a trilogy bout between the two fighters, how he thinks it might go without his involvement, the complexities of returning to boxing events once the coronavirus pandemic finally subsides, and much more.

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Lance and Mike sit down to discuss Dana White’s decision-making regarding UFC 249 and beyond, attempting to circumvent the very regulations Lorenzo Fertitta promised to run towards in the sport’s early days, potential superstardom for Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia, who are doing a great job building their rivalry on social media, the catastrophic effect the coronavirus shutdown could have on Las Vegas, a possible Errol Spence-Danny Garcia bout, and much more.

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First, Lance and Mike go over Mike’s ranking of the top middleweights in boxing and discuss whether the top dog in the division, Canelo Alvarez, will ever fight at 160 pounds again.

Plus, the guys talk about how they were each initially drawn to the sport, a realistic timeframe for boxing to return from its coronavirus pause, if Deontay Wilder is helped by his trilogy bout with Tyson Fury getting pushed to October, DAZN’s subscription-based model putting them in precarious situation without live fights, Bill Joe Saunders’s controversial video, and more.

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Lance and Mike deep dive into the decision-making behind The Athletic Boxing’s pound-for-pound rankings, voted on by both guys, along with fellow writers Rafe Bartholomew and Sarah Shephard. Plus, at the top of the show, Lance give some insight into Manny Pacquiao’s efforts to help his people in the Philippines during the coronavirus outbreak.

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Lance and Mike detail the fights being cancelled, postponed, or delayed due to the rapid spread of the coronavirus across the United States and around the globe, the effects on training camps, and the decisions fighters are making during this uncertain time.

Then, the guys discuss Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin agreeing to a trilogy fight, whether it’s the most important fight of the year or not, which weight the fight will take place at, who they’re picking, and much more.

And, the guys remember Roger Mayweather, Floyd’s uncle, who passed away this week at the age of 58 to close out the show.

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Lance and Mike sit down at the Churchill Boxing Club in Santa Monica, California and discuss the impact coronavirus might have on upcoming boxing events, including Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Teofimo Lopez, and others being planned for this summer and beyond.

Plus, the guys talk about Robert Helenius’s big upset over Adam Kownacki this past weekend, a lack of scheduled fights featuring welterweights like Terence Crawford, Shawn Porter, Manny Pacquiao, and Keith Thurman, Shakur Stevenson vs. Miguel Marriaga, Canelo Alvarez and DAZN’s new global app, and more.

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Lance and Mike recap a big weekend in Dallas on one of DAZN's best cards of the year, including the return of Roman “Chocolatito” Gonzalez and what it could mean for the 115-pound division, as well as Mikey Garcia's decision over Jessie Vargas in the main event and the possibility of a mega fight between Garcia and Manny Pacquiao in July.Plus, the guys compare their Top-15 heavyweight rankings, preview some upcoming fights including Anthony Joshua's upcoming bout with Kubrat Pulev, discuss the status of Tyson Fury's trilogy fight with Deontay Wilder, and the latest on negotiations between Canelo and Billy Joe Saunders.Subscribe to The Athletic and save 40% on your annual subscription when you visit http://theathletic.com/pugandcopp

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Lance and Mike recap a huge night for boxing as Tyson Fury dominated his way to a seventh round stoppage of Deontay Wilder in their highly-anticipated rematch, and discuss Fury’s flawlessly executed attack-first strategy, Wilder potentially dismissing Mark Breland in an attempt to revamp his style going into a likely summer trilogy bout, as the Bronze Bomber exercised his rematch clause, and much more.

Plus, the guys look ahead to this weekend’s stacked DAZN card, headlined by Mikey Garcia and Jessie Vargas, and also featuring Chocolatiti’s return against Kal Yafai, as well as Canelo’s next opponent being either Callum Smith or Bill Joe Saunders.

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Lance and Mike are on the ground in Las Vegas for one of the year’s most highly anticipated fights, the rematch between Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury, and are joined by Super Middleweight champion Caleb Plant and ESPN’s Mark Kriegel to preview the bout, and much more.

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Lance and Mike take a look back at DAZN’s Super Bowl Card and give their thoughts on an exciting set of fights including Jojo Diaz Jr.’s victory over Tevin Farmer, Murodjon Akhmadaliev’s split decision win over Danny Roman, Demetrius Andrade defeating Luke Keeler via TKO, as well as Jake Paul stopping AnEssonGib a little over two minutes into round one.

Plus, the guys preview this weekend’s Gary Russell Jr. vs. King Tug title fight and discuss Gervonta Davis getting arrested for battery of his ex-girlfriend in Florida, Canelo Alvarez potentially fighting Billy Joe Saunders or Callum Smith next, Chocolatito vs. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai in March at MSG, and more.

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Lance and Mike discuss Thursday night’s Demetrius Andrade vs. Luke Keeler card on DAZN, including Jake Paul vs. AnEssonGib in the co-feature and Tevin Farmer vs. Jojo Diaz, and Daniel Roman vs. Murodjon Akhmedaliev on the undercard. Plus, a quick Danny Garcia-Ivan Redkach recap, and the guys talk about Jarrell Miller signing with Top Rank, Naoya Inoue vs. Nonito Donaire being named the BWAA 2019 Fight of the Year, Andy Ruiz leaving Manny Robles, possibly for Teddy Atlas, Javier Fortuna and Luke Campbell getting booked with Devin Haney on the shelf following shoulder surgery, Canelo’s next opponent potentially being Ryota Murata, and more.

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Lance and Mike discuss this coming weekend’s Danny Garcia vs. Ivan Redkach bout, Jeison Rosario’s upset win over Julian Williams this past weekend, Eleider Alvarez’s brutal knockout of Michael Seals, the recently added, second Los Angeles Wilder-Fury press conference, a potential Jermall Charlo-Sergiy Derevyanchenko middleweight title fight, Conor McGregor’s name being mentioned by Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, and Bob Arum, welterweight matchmaking, DAZN’s Super Bowl weekend card, and much more.

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Pug and Copp break down the Deontay Wilder-Tyson Fury 2 press conference, who won the day, where this fight ranks in Heavyweight history, and what to expect in the lead-up to their February 22 rematch. Plus, recent PBC signings, Canelo Alvarez’s next fight will likely be against Billy Joe Saunders, recapping Claressa Shields’s win over Ivana Habazin and what could be next for her, Joe Smith Jr’s domination over Jesse Hart, Jaime Munguia’s performance against Gary O’Sullivan, looking ahead to Eleider Alvarez vs. Michael Seals, Josh Taylor signing with Top Rank, and more.

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Lance and Mike are back on the first episode of the new year to discuss a trio of upcoming fights including Jesse Hart vs. Joe Smith, Jr., Ivana Habazin vs. Claressa Shields, and Gary O’Sullivan vs. Jaime Munguia, all set to take place this coming weekend. Plus, the guys talk about Terrence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. going back-and-forth on Twitter, Gilberto Ramirez missing in action, why this is the right time for a Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao rematch, looking ahead to the 2020 schedule, and more.

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Lance and Mike break down Jermell Charlo’s TKO of Tony Harrison to regain his WBC Super Welterweight title, a wild win for Efe Ajagba over Iago Kiladze on the undercard, the Danial Jacobs-Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. fiasco, Errol Spence Jr.’s outlook for 2020, and Gervonta Davis vs. Yuriorkis Gamboa to close out the year. Plus, the guys give out their 2019 awards for Fight of the Year, Fighter of the Year, KO of the Year, Trainer of the Year, Upset of the Year, and Best Rivalry of the Year.

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Lance and Mike record from Los Angeles at the Mikey Garcia-Jessie Vargas press conference, ahead of their scheduled February 29 fight. First, Jessie Vargas discusses how his fight against Mikey Garcia came together, his thoughts on how the fight will play out, and why he believes he can score an upset on fight night. Then, Eddie Hearn talks about Mikey Garcia-Jessie Vargas, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Daniel Jacobs, Bob Arum’s cirticism, NSAC, drug testing, DAZN, and much more. After that, Regis Prograis discusses potentially fighting Mikey Garcia down the line, a Maurice Hooker bout, his outlook for 2020, and more. Finally, Mikey Garcia talks about being very motivated following his loss to Errol Spence Jr., his thought process on taking a fight against Jessie Vargas at 147lbs., a potential Manny Pacquiao matchup, buying himself a car for his 32nd birthday, and more.

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Lance and Mike recap Anthony Joshua’s victory over Andy Ruiz and give their thoughts on how the fight played out, the potential for a trilogy bout, and the megafight that would be Joshua vs. Wilder. Then, the guys discuss Crawford vs. Mean Machine, Crawford’s need to fight elite talent for the sake of his legacy, and Tiofemo Lopez vs. Richard Commey. Plus, Lance sits down with Top Rank CEO Bob Arum days after his 88th birthday to discuss the Terence Crawford vs. Mean Machine fight, future matchups for Crawford, Tiofemo Lopez vs. Richard Commey, promoting the Deontay Wilder-Tyson Fury rematch, Michael Conlan’s next fight, and much more.

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Mike is joined by sports promoter and Matchroom Boxing managing director Eddie Hearn in a cab on the way to the Andy Ruiz-Anthony Joshua 2 press conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia to discuss how he put together the Clash On The Dunes rematch, how this fight could be different than the first one, Anthony Joshua’s mindset going into the bout, and much more. 

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Lance and Mike talk about their own personal paths covering the sport of boxing over the last ten years and take a look back at some of the best fights, fighters, stories, and moments from the past decade in the boxing world, while taking a look at the decade to come.

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Lance and Mike preview the much-anticipated rematch between Deontay Wilder and Luis Ortiz and give their thoughts on how the fight will play out, the potential Wilder-Fury rematch hanging in the balance, and much more, including audio of Deontay Wilder discussing the matchup, giving his thoughts on Luis Ortiz’s preparation for the fight, and where he feels his legacy stands at this point. Plus, the guys break down Saturday night’s undercard featuring Leo Santa Cruz vs. Miguel Flores, Brandon Figueroa vs. Julio Ceja, and Luis Nery vs. Emmanuel Rodriguez, and discuss Devin Haney’s upcoming shoulder surgery, Caleb Plant’s next title defense against Alfredo Angulo, Sergey Kovalev’s excuses about the Canelo Alvarez fight, and much more.

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Lance and Mike discuss KSI-Logan Paul 2 and assess the reaction from fans and the media following the event. Plus, breaking down Devin Haney’s performance on the undercard, his next fight against Javier Fortuna, and a possible matchup with Ryan Garcia down the road, the need for Gervonta Davis to take a step up in competition in 2020, the silence surrounding Errol Spence Jr’s health, Wilder-Ortiz II, Showtime’s future, or lack thereof, in the boxing business, and Mike breaks news of a likely Jojo Diaz-Tevin Farmer fight during the show. 

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Lance and Mike record from the MGM Grand in Las Vegas to break down the Canelo Alvarez-Sergey Kovalev WBO Light Heavyweight title fight and make their predictions, as well as discuss the tension between Canelo and Oscar De La Hoya heading into the bout. Then, former two-time champion Jessie Vargas joins the show to give his perspective on the fight and how moving up in weight may affect Canelo’s performance. Later, DAZN executive Joe Markowski talks to the guys about the slate of upcoming fights on DAZN starting with Canelo-Kovalev and continuing with Logan Paul-KSI and Ruiz-Joshua 2. Plus, the guys discuss Ryan Garcia vs. Romero Duno and the rest of Canelo-Kovalev undercard, recap the Josh Taylor-Regis Prograis fight, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. evading a VADA test, and look ahead to Jermell Charlo vs. Tony Harrison II and Gervonta Davis vs. Yuriorkis Gamboa.

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Lance is joined by special co-host Logan Paul at Wild Card Boxing Club to discuss his rematch with KSI at the Staples Center on November 9, how his misstep in Japan led to becoming a new person dedicated to learning the sport of boxing, whether the YouTube generation will gravitate to boxing or not, and much more. Plus, Jake Paul reveals he’s in talks with Eddie Hearn for a match in December or January, and their trainer Shannon Briggs says Logan Paul will be in a Heavyweight title fight within four years.

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