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- 606 - "Don't Build for Pakistan?" - How He Made $1 Million ARR Doing the Opposite ft. Syed Sair Ali | PodcastTBT
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Is building software for Pakistani businesses an impossible game, or are founders just targeting the wrong problems? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I sit down with Syed Sair Ali, co-founder of Blink, to break down how his company built a restaurant tech stack powering over 500 brands and 2,000 stores across 5 countries—hitting a massive $1M ARR milestone and reaching profitability in Pakistan.
While the global tech scene debates whether "SaaS is dead," the local market is desperate for foundational "systems of record." Sair details the harsh reality of restaurant operations: stopping counter cash theft, managing complex FBR/PRA tax integrations, bypassing 30% aggregator commissions with direct online ordering, and why giants like Cheezious and Imtiaz eventually outgrow basic apps. If you want to understand how real B2B software gets sold to traditional Pakistani business owners, watch this until the end.
Wed, 21 Oct 2026 - 53min - 605 - Why LUMS Graduates Get Hired Faster Than You (The "Packaging" Secret) ft. Farhan Ali Raza | TBT Podcast
Do you need a degree from an elite university to land a job at a Silicon Valley startup, or can open-source code be your global passport? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I sit down with Farhan Ali Raza, a software engineer from Bahawalnagar who became a core contributor to Django, built Django Bolt (1,700+ GitHub stars), and now works as an open-source engineer at Reflex (a 2023 YC startup)—all while sitting in South Punjab.
Context: Farhan’s story completely shatters local location and university biases. We dive deep into how he used Google Summer of Code and GitHub to prove his skills globally, the harsh reality of software engineering jobs in the age of AI, and why junior developers need to move beyond simple "coding" and focus on product architecture and domain expertise. If you're a young Pakistani dev feeling stuck or overwhelmed by the future of tech, you need to watch this until the end!
Intro: Overcoming Local Bias & Meeting Farhan Ali Raza
Growing Up in Bahawalnagar & Starting with Programming
Cracking Open Source: How Farhan Got Into Django & GSoC
Building Django Bolt & Racking Up 1,700 GitHub Stars
Landing a Job at a YC Startup (Reflex) From a Small Town
Is Coding Dead? How AI is Automating Junior Developer Roles
The Shift from "Workhorse" Coding to Product Thinking
Overcoming Imposter Syndrome & Packaging Your Skills Globally
Outro & Final Advice for Pakistani CS Students
Tue, 20 Oct 2026 - 36min - 604 - How AI is "Hacking" the Pakistan Stock Exchange (No More WhatsApp Tips) ft Shayan Baig | TBT Podcast
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Are software engineering degrees becoming obsolete? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I sit down with Shayan Baig, an Electrical Engineer turned Fintech founder, who built AlphaGen Pro—a comprehensive AI research platform for the Pakistan Stock Exchange (PSX)—in just 5 months with absolutely ZERO coding experience.
For decades, the PSX has been chaotic, driven by random "tips" and shady WhatsApp groups. Shayan explains how he used AI tools like Claude, ChatGPT, and Gemini to translate his 8 years of finance experience into a fully functional SaaS product that tracks macroeconomics, geopolitics, sector rotation, and technical trends. We also dive into Model Context Protocol (MCP) integrations and why the "SaaS is dead" narrative is completely wrong. Instead of reinventing the wheel and burning API tokens, smart builders will use MCP to connect powerful SaaS platforms directly to their own AI agents. If you want to see the real power of "Domain Expertise" in the age of AI, watch this until the end!
Intro: Why Non-Technical Domain Experts Are Winning in AI
From Electrical Engineering to the Pakistan Stock Exchange
The Problem with PSX: Why Trading on "WhatsApp Tips" Fails
How to Build a SaaS in 5 Months Without Knowing How to Code
AlphaGen Pro Demo: Turning Geopolitics & News into Stock Data
Web Scraping is Dead: How AI Agents Fetch Financial Data
What is MCP? (Model Context Protocol) & The Future of SaaS
Why "SaaS is Dead" is a Myth (The Applet Model)
The Value of Constructive Feedback vs. Pakistani Toxicity
Outro: Are You Investing in the PSX?
Mon, 19 Oct 2026 - 37min - 603 - How a 19-Year-Old Bootstrapped a Food Startup Without VC Money ft. Hasan Haji |TBT Podcast
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Can a 20-year-old university dropout solve Karachi's massive food waste problem while helping people get high-end restaurant meals for 70% off? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I sit down with Hassan Haji, founder and CEO of Food Loot, a bootstrapped surplus-food marketplace operating in Karachi.
While most founders wait for millions in venture capital, Hassan chose a different path—funding his startup entirely through his own high school hustles, freelance coding projects, and sheer grit. We discuss the economics of food waste, how local restaurants throw away hundreds of fresh meals daily, partnering with third-party WhatsApp delivery networks, and why he decided to pause his degree at King's College London to build in Pakistan. If you want a raw, unscripted look at a young, boot-strapped founder building from scratch, watch this until the end.
Fri, 16 Oct 2026 - 36min - 602 - How a 20-Year-Old Student Used AI to Buy a 1 Crore Car (True Story) ft. Mustafa Hanif | TBT Podcast
Are software engineering skills becoming obsolete, or is a massive new goldmine opening up for people with real-world business experience? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I sit down with Mustafa Hanif, co-founder and CTO of WeTarseel AI, a FAST-NUCES graduate with 15 years of tech experience who decided to build an omni-channel AI CRM right here from Pakistan.
Context: While everyone is busy doomscrolling about AI taking over jobs, Mustafa shares how his lean team built an AI system handling WhatsApp, Instagram, and voice notes in Urdu and English—scaling to over 200 enterprise clients across the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan. We break down the shift from generic software development to AI services, why traditional coding is being replaced by prompt architecture, and how a non-technical person or domain expert can use tools like Grokbot and Claude to automate boring traditional businesses. If you want to stop fearing AI and start capturing value in the upcoming intelligence cycle, watch this until the end.
Timestamps:
Intro: The AI Builder Series & Meeting Mustafa Hanif
From FAST-NUCES to Dubai Tech: The Journey to WeTarseel AI
What is WeTarseel? Building an Omni-Channel AI CRM for WhatsApp
Solving the Urdu Language Barrier with AI Voice Notes & Gemini
Going Global: Acquiring 200+ Enterprise Clients in the Middle East
The New Goldmine: Why AI "Services" Beat Traditional SaaS
Actionable Advice for Students: How to Use Grokbot to Automate Businesses
The Death of Traditional Coding vs. The Rise of Domain Experts
Outro & Final Thoughts on the Future of AI in Pakistan
Thu, 15 Oct 2026 - 33min - 601 - The Easiest Way to Move to Europe as a Pakistani Freelancer ft. Reyhan Khan | TBT Podcast
Are AI and automation going to kill the Pakistani remote work dream, or is this the biggest opportunity to earn in dollars? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I sit down with Reyhan Khan, founder of Recruiter GTM, who went from earning Rs. 25,000 at the Islamabad Airport to making $8,000/month as a remote systems integrator and eventually moving to Lisbon, Portugal.We dive deep into the reality of the global job market, why AI isn't going to replace you (but someone using AI will), and the exact skills you need to become irreplaceable to foreign clients. Rehan shares his unfiltered thoughts on why Pakistani freelancers often fail to scale, the "careless mistakes" holding us back, and how to stop sending terrible "Hi Sir" outreach messages. Finally, we break down the reality of moving to Europe on Digital Nomad visas (Portugal D8 and Spain) and how you can legally relocate your family while working remotely.Timestamps:Intro: The Anxiety Around AI and Remote JobsReyhan’s Journey: From Rs. 25,000 in Pindi to UpworkBuilding Recruiter GTM & Helping 250+ Pakistanis Get Remote JobsIs AI Killing the Recruitment Industry?How Reyhan Scaled His Income from $4/Hour to $8,000/MonthThe Biggest Mistakes Pakistani Freelancers Make (Stop Sending "Hi Sir")Why "Context Engineering" is the New Highly Paid SkillHow to Move to Europe: Portugal D8 & Spain Digital Nomad Visas ExplainedOutro & Final ThoughtsWed, 14 Oct 2026 - 42min - 600 - I Dropped Out of A-Levels. Here’s How I Built an EV App Using AI in 5 Months. ft. Fahad Hassan | TBT
https://muzamilhasan.com/podcast/applyAre electric vehicles actually taking over Pakistan, or are drivers suffering from severe "range anxiety"? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I sit down with Fahad Hassan, a self-taught developer who dropped out of A-Levels, spent a decade freelancing on Upwork, and used AI to build "ChargePK"—Pakistan’s premier EV charging aggregator app—in just 5 months.While everyone is busy chasing speculative crypto coins or generic AI hype, Fahad focused on a real, physical problem: helping EV owners find chargers, check live availability, and plan trips across cities. We discuss how he built an omni-platform app (iOS, Android, CarPlay, Watch) entirely solo using AI, the brutal realities of Pakistan's early-stage EV infrastructure, and why building "boring" utility apps for local industries is where the real money is. If you want to see what practical, AI-aided software development looks like in the trenches of Pakistan, watch this until the end.Intro: The EV Wave in Pakistan & Meeting Fahad HassanDropping Out of A-Levels to Start Coding in 2012The Birth of ChargePK: Solving Personal "Range Anxiety"Building Solo: How AI Cut Multi-Platform App Development to 5 MonthsUX & Design First: Why Pakistani Apps Usually Look TerribleThe Reality of EV Infrastructure in Pakistan (Lahore to Karachi)Monetization & B2B Partnerships: Working with Charging StationsWhy Local Utility Apps Beat Speculative Tech HypeOutro & How to Test/Give Feedback on ChargePK
Tue, 13 Oct 2026 - 34min - 599 - The Hidden Elite Funding Pakistan’s AI & Data Center Boom ft. Aly Fahd | TBT Podcast
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Is the era of "free VC money" over, or is Pakistan's tech ecosystem finally maturing? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I sit down with Ali Fahad, Founder and CEO of PakLaunch, to decode the shifting dynamics of global capital, AI data centers, and why overseas Pakistanis are aggressively investing back home.
While the mainstream media focuses on political instability, a massive shift is happening behind closed doors. From local family offices funding Silicon Valley AI startups to businessmen using Pakistan to bypass US-China tariffs, the macroeconomic reality of the region is changing. We discuss the upcoming PakLaunch Unconference in New York, the rise of unapologetic Gen-Z nationalism in the diaspora, and how Pakistan can realistically position itself as a top 10 global tech ecosystem by 2030. If you want to understand where the smart money is moving, you need to watch this.
Timestamps: (Note: Adjust exact minute markers to match your final video timeline)
Intro: Navigating Geopolitics, Tech & Startups
What is PakLaunch? The New York Unconference Explained
The End of "Free Money" & The Maturation of Pakistani Startups
Geopolitics: Why Overseas Pakistanis Are Looking Back Home
Gen-Z Diaspora & The Rise of Unapologetic Nationalism
Why Are We Begging for US Dollars? (Local Wealth Steps Up)
Earning Trust: Why Due Diligence is Failing in Pakistan
AI, Global Recessions, and the Future of Pakistani Jobs
The AI Data Center Boom: Saudi, US, and Chinese Investments
Looking East: Why Pakistan Must Pivot to China & ASEAN
The Loophole: Bypassing US-China Tariffs Through Pakistan
Pakistan 2030 Outlook: Can We Become a Top 10 Tech Ecosystem?
Mon, 12 Oct 2026 - 48min - 598 - Don't Complain About Jobs: How 1 Tweet Changed This 25-Year-Old’s Life | Raheel Siddiqui
Are AI tools taking your jobs, or are you just not building fast enough? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, I sit down with 25-year-old developer Raheel Siddiqui, the creator of pakistangov.online.After seeing the US launch a central AI hub for government services (america.gov), Raheel used Claude and his coding skills to build a Pakistani equivalent in just 30 minutes! Running on $0 infrastructure, the site blew up on Twitter, pulling in over 30,000 users and even catching the attention of the IT Minister. We discuss how students can survive the AI wave, the power of building "taste" in product design, and why taking action is the only way to win in the new economy. Plus, we dive into Raheel's journey of solo traveling the world as a digital nomad.Timestamps:Intro: The America.gov Launch & Wishing for Better Tech in PakistanMeet Raheel Siddiqui & The Birth of pakistangov.onlineGoing Viral: Handling 30,000 Users on a $0 BudgetJob Offers, Investors, and the IT Minister Reaching OutRaheel’s Journey: From Usman Institute of Technology to Global NomadAdvice for CS Students: Is Coding Dead Because of AI?Why Building "Taste" and Great UX is More Important Than CodeThe "Backdoor Strategy" for Landing International JobsFinding B2B Software Opportunities Within PakistanSolo Traveling Southeast Asia as a Digital Nomad (Chiang Mai)Outro: Are You Excited or Scared of the AI Revolution?
Wed, 07 Oct 2026 - 45min - 597 - Why Airlift Failed But This Tech Startup Became Profitable | Maha Shahzad | TBT Podcast
How did a Pakistani mobility startup achieve profitability in a sector that destroyed giants like Airlift, Uber, and Swvl? In this episode of the Thought Behind Things podcast, Maha from Bus Karo returns to share the untold reality of surviving Pakistan’s brutal public transport graveyard amidst skyrocketing fuel prices.While the tech ecosystem celebrates funding rounds, we are taking a hard look at the macro-economic nightmare of running a real, operational business in Pakistan. Maha breaks down the absurd reality of the country's taxation system—where unprofitable startups are forced to use foreign VC money just to pay 70% withholding taxes to the government. We also dive into the harsh economics of Electric Vehicles (EVs) for public transport, the lack of working capital from local banks, and why building a business in Pakistan right now is strictly for "masochists." If you want an unfiltered, unscripted look into the true cost of solving Pakistan's biggest systemic problems, watch this until the end.Timestamps: (Note: Adjust the exact minute markers to match your final video timeline)Intro: The Startup Graveyard (Airlift, Swvl) & A Rare Success StoryHow Bus Karo Reached Profitability Amidst a Fuel CrisisThe Real Numbers: 1.5 Million Bookings & 30,000 Daily UsersWhy Govt Fuel Subsidies Completely Ignore the Poorest CommutersWill Electric Buses (EVs) Actually Work in Pakistan? (The Real Math)The Cost of ICE vs. EV Buses: Who Pays the Delta?Why Investors Stopped Funding Non-AI StartupsThe 70% Tax Trap: Paying Government Taxes with Foreign VC MoneyWhy Pakistani Banks Refuse to Lend to StartupsCorporate Jugaad, Fraud, and the Broken Mobility Ecosystem"Don't Build in Pakistan Unless You're a Masochist"
Tue, 06 Oct 2026 - 45min - 596 - He Predicted the Crypto Crash 5 Years Ago. (Here is What Happens Next) ft. Ahmad Manzoor | TBT Podcast
Is the internet dying? With AI bots and "slop" projected to make up 99% of web traffic, the need for verified, authentic data has never been more critical. In this episode, Ahmad Manzoor returns to the Thought Behind Things podcast to reveal how Blockchain is secretly fixing the AI data crisis, the evolution of NADRA's digital identity system, and what the global push for Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) means for Pakistan's economy.
Five years ago, we warned you about the crypto and NFT bubble. Today, the hype is dead, but the underlying technology is quietly transforming the global financial system. We break down the shift from speculative coins to real-world applications like Digital Public Infrastructure (DPI) and tokenized real estate. More importantly, we debate the terrifying reality of the "cashless society"—how the transition to digital currencies could lead to an authoritarian surveillance state where your financial liberty is completely monitored. Forget the tech buzzwords; this is how the macro-economy is fundamentally changing.
Tue, 08 Sep 2026 - 1h 01min - 595 - How an FSc Student Used "Free Work" to Charge $2,500 for SaaS Animations ft. Badar Munir | TBT Podcast
Can a beginner with zero technical background actually make thousands of dollars using AI? In this episode of Thought Behind Things, I sit down with Badar Munir, founder of Aghaaz and one of Pakistan's top AI educators, to break down the exact roadmaps, workflows, and client acquisition strategies working right now.
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From building apps using tools like Cursor and Lovable to executing ruthless LinkedIn and X outreach that lands high-ticket clients, Badar shares how he scaled his training platform to over 15,000 students. We dive into the real-world shift from simple AI automation to "product-led services," why a founder mindset beats chasing shiny objects, and how to position yourself to win in the post-AI job market.Sat, 29 Aug 2026 - 1h 16min - 594 - The Sugar Mafia: The Biggest Financial Scam in Pakistan's History | Dil ki Baat
Why is Pakistan growing a crop that causes diabetes, consumes 17% of our water, and brings in zero dollars? In this episode of Dil Ki Baat, I expose the dark reality of Pakistan's Sugar Mafia, the elite political families controlling the agriculture sector, and why the salaried class is forced to foot the bill while billionaires pay almost zero tax.Article 1: https://weeklycuttingedge.com/cotton-to-cane-how-sugar-barons-hijacked-pakistans-agricultural-future/Article 2: https://tribune.com.pk/story/2610094/sindh-opposes-immediate-sugar-deregulationThis episode is sponsored by Taptap Send.Download Taptap Send using the following link: https://taptapsend.onelink.me/LrabUse code 'MUZAMILPK' for a first time bonusJoin the Inner Circle, my weekly letter on AI, building, and being early to what's coming:https://muzamilhasan.com/inner-circleRead the thesis, the one idea behind everything I'm building:https://muzamilhasan.com/thesisMy website:https://muzamilhasan.comFollowing up on our AI Data Center series, we take a hard look at the real reason Pakistan is facing a water and economic crisis. On the TBT Podcast, we don't just complain about inflation; we break down the macro-economics behind it. Today, we uncover how 94% of Pakistan's water is swallowed by outdated farming, why the government bans imported sugar (Rs. 60/kg) to sell you local sugar at Rs. 150/kg, and how the shift from cotton to sugarcane is destroying our export economy. If you want to understand how elite capture, colonial-era regulations, and political mafias are keeping Pakistan poor, you need to watch this until the end. Deregulation is the only way out.
Thu, 27 Aug 2026 - 34min - 593 - They Are Lying About Pakistan's Water Crisis (It’s Not What You Think) | Dil ki Baat
Will AI data centers really drink all of Pakistan's water? In this episode of Dil Ki Baat, I break down the viral myths surrounding water scarcity in Pakistan and reveal the shocking truth about where our water actually goes. From the reality of agricultural water waste to the controversial need to price water, we explore the macroeconomic facts you need to know.
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On the TBT Podcast, we look past the sensational headlines to understand the macro-economic realities of technology and resources. Recently, there's been an uproar claiming that new AI data centers in Pakistan will cause severe water shortages. Today, I dive deep into the data to show why data centers will use less than 0.01% of our water, while 94% is consumed by outdated agricultural practices. We discuss the critical need to price water to prevent an impending crisis, why corporate farming exports are actually exporting our subsidized water, and how understanding these dynamics is essential for our survival. If we don't act now, we'll be fighting over water in a few short years.
Wed, 26 Aug 2026 - 44min - 592 - Stop Buying Real Estate "Files" (Do THIS with Rs. 10,000 Instead) ft. Muhammad Ejaz | TBT Podcast
The rupee just keeps devaluing, and I've felt it personally: my own net worth was cut
in half the last time it moved from 170 to 320. So this episode is about the one legal,
regulated way I've found to fight back. Mohammad Ijaz runs one of Pakistan's largest
REIT (real estate investment trust) platforms, including Dolmen Mall, and he breaks
down how you can own a real, income-generating stake in commercial property starting at
roughly Rs 10 a unit, fully regulated by the SECP, none of the "file" trading that's
made a small number of people rich while leaving construction unfinished.
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We get into how REIT dividends and yields actually work (one Dolmen property's rental
yield has climbed from 10% to close to 30%), why Pakistan's mortgage market barely
exists, and a genuinely absurd example: a tax rule that expired and now turns a routine
property transfer into a 24 billion rupee mistake, for a transaction where the owners
receive not one extra rupee.
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Wed, 19 Aug 2026 - 1h 16min - 591 - How Pakistan gets China-level AI in 10 years | Dil ki Baat
Last episode I argued Pakistan must build sovereign AI. This episode is the accounting: the real numbers on where the world's compute is, how far behind Pakistan actually is, and a year-by-year plan that gets us to 5 gigawatts in 10 years without breaking the economy.
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The scoreboard today: America runs roughly 25 gigawatts of data center compute, China around 32, India about 1.5. Pakistan sits near 8.5 megawatts. By 2030 America is projected to reach 80 gigawatts and India 5. Data centers already consume more electricity than entire industrialized nations, and that demand doubles in about five years. The last time a general-purpose technology reshaped the world this way, the subcontinent went from a third of world GDP to a fraction of a percent, and we were somebody's colony by the end of it.
Per citizen, the gap is brutal: America has about 800 times the compute per person that Pakistan does. The honest benchmark is China's level per million people, and matching it means Pakistan needs about 5 gigawatts within 10 years. At today's frontier prices, roughly 40 billion dollars per gigawatt, that sounds like 200 billion, half our GDP. But nobody builds it in one year. Start with 50 megawatts in year one, about a billion dollars, double from there, cross 1 gigawatt by year five, and the compounding path lands at 5 gigawatts by year ten for closer to 120 billion, because prices keep falling and local build is cheaper.
And the money exists. We spend 16 billion dollars a year importing oil, 160 billion a decade. Four billion a year on palm oil. Two and a half billion on cars, one and a half on phones, six on non-essential luxury imports, and billions more leave as capital flight. The difference is consumption versus investment: one disappears, the other compounds. The IT industry should move first, build the data centers, sell the tokens, own the stack, instead of becoming the next textile sector. Builders set the terms. Renters accept them.
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Mon, 17 Aug 2026 - 23min - 590 - 466 | Zayaan Bawany: I Wanted To Sell DRY FRUITS In Pakistan After Coming Back From The UK! | TBT
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In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Zayaan Bawanay, the Co-Founder & CEO of TicketWala, Pakistan’s largest entertainment marketplace redefining how events, concerts, and live experiences are built.
From selling his own birthday tickets to running a company with 95% market share, Zayaan shares the wild journey of turning a scrappy blog into the country’s fastest-growing entertainment startup.
We uncover:
How TicketWala became Pakistan’s biggest event platformThe early days with zero tech knowledge Building credibility through small events during COVIDManaging payments, logistics, and large-scale entry systemsWhy Pakistan can’t yet host global-level concertsWhy Pakistani artists are more famous in India than PakistanThe risk-averse mindset of event stakeholdersSocials:
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Wed, 15 Oct 2025 - 1h 53min - 589 - Data centers can fix Pakistan's electricity bills | Dil ki Baat
Half the world is building sovereign AI. In this episode I defend the claim with data: what Saudi Arabia, the UAE, the EU, Japan, India and Indonesia are each spending, why Pakistan's electricity problem is actually the case FOR local data centers, and the three-layer stack Pakistan must own.
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In the last two episodes I argued that whatever Pakistan lacks, it imports and rents in dollars, and that intelligence is about to explode as an economic input. The cynical comments came, so this episode answers with numbers. Sovereign AI, the term Jensen Huang popularized, means a nation produces its own intelligence: its own hardware, its own models, its own applications, run by its own people. India has committed over a billion dollars and 34,000 GPUs. The UAE built Falcon and committed five gigawatts of AI data centers, with one already commissioned, in a country with almost no water. Saudi Arabia's PIF-owned Humain is targeting two gigawatts by 2030 at an estimated 77 billion dollars. The EU is putting 20 billion euros into five AI gigafactories to, in their own words, reduce dependence on non-European suppliers. Even the richest club of nations is scared of renting.
The model most relevant to Pakistan is Indonesia: no 50 billion dollar announcement, just a telecom and a tech company partnering with NVIDIA, plus Sahabat AI trained on their own languages. Pakistan owns the application layer already. The model layer is now forkable thanks to Chinese open-weight models. The hardware layer is where investment must go, timed for after the current hardware bubble deflates, the way local phone assembly cut the dollar cost of a handset from 200 dollars to 50.
And the electricity objection has it backwards. Pakistan's problem is not too little power, it is too little demand: roughly 46 gigawatts of capacity against a 20 to 22 gigawatt summer peak and a 7 gigawatt winter floor, with 2 to 2.5 trillion rupees a year, roughly 7 billion dollars, going to capacity payments for plants we do not use. A data center is the perfect customer: single buyer, 24/7 offtake, no distribution or recovery cost, paid for by profitable inference. The government's 2,000 megawatt allocation for AI data centers is welcome, but there should be no subsidies, and the government should stay out of building. This is the private sector's opportunity, starting with the IT industry whose real revenues are far larger than the declared 5 billion dollars.
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Sun, 16 Aug 2026 - 39min - 588 - A NUST degree pays Rs 15,000. This skill paid $3,000 ft. M. Tanveer Nandla | TBT Podcast
Tanveer Nadla, founder and CEO of iSkills, has taught more than 20,000 students in Pakistan. We talk about the 86 dollars that started his journey, the first batch of 54 students he says are mostly crorepatis today, and why he believes SEO and digital skills matter more, not less, in the AI era.
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Tanveer Nadla started with $86 from Google AdSense in 2008, sitting in a Multan hostel with unreliable internet. Today he runs iSkills, Pakistan's most accountable digital skills training program, having trained over 20,000 students, many from small cities like Muzaffargarh and Rajanpur. More than 60 percent of his first batch are now multi-millionaires in rupees, earning dollars online.
This episode covers Tanveer's journey from self-taught SEO in 2006 to building a learning system that combines live training, AI-powered dashboards, and relentless student follow-up. He explains why university degrees alone leave graduates unemployed, how iSkills integrates quick-win skills like Etsy selling alongside deep SEO training, and why empathy, not just curriculum, drives results. His trainers are former students who now earn millions but teach for free to pay it back.
We discuss client acquisition beyond Upwork, the role of LinkedIn and Meta ads, and why accountability matters more than content quality. Tanveer also shares his AI integration roadmap and his belief that digital skills are the only realistic path for Pakistan's youth. If you want to understand how structured, local-language training with real follow-through changes lives in tier-two cities, this conversation delivers.
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Fri, 14 Aug 2026 - 1h 44min - 587 - The Netflix subscription that would crash Pakistan's economy | Dil ki Baat
Why Pakistan must build local AI infrastructure now, before dollar-pegged intelligence makes it unaffordable for 220 million people.This episode is sponsored by Taptap Send.Download Taptap Send using the following link: https://taptapsend.onelink.me/LrabUse code 'MUZAMILPK' for a first time bonusJoin the Inner Circle, my weekly letter on AI, building, and being early to what's coming:https://muzamilhasan.com/inner-circleRead the thesis, the one idea behind everything I'm building:https://muzamilhasan.com/thesisMy website:https://muzamilhasan.comThis episode walks through a thought experiment: what happens if 100 million Pakistanis buy a Netflix subscription at 1,000 rupees per month. The answer is economic collapse. Not because people cannot afford 1,000 rupees, but because Netflix converts every rupee to dollars and sends it abroad. At scale, that is 4.3 billion dollars annually, roughly 13 percent of Pakistan's net export earnings. The dollar would spike, purchasing power would fall, and the subscription would price itself out.The same bottleneck applies to artificial intelligence. AI runs on tokens, which today are priced in dollars and processed abroad. If Pakistan does not build local data centers running open source models, we will dollarize intelligence the way we dollarized energy with IPPs in the 1990s. Every AI-powered app, every education tool, every business automation will drain dollars at scale, and the masses will be priced out before they gain access.Muzamil argues Pakistan has abundant energy, raw materials, and labor. The missing variable has always been intelligence. AI is about to make intelligence abundant globally. If we localize the infrastructure now, we can deploy it in rupees, create local jobs, and let 220 million people use it without dollar constraints. If we do not, sovereign AI becomes a luxury, and Pakistan repeats the IPP trap with the next industrial revolution.Instagram: https://instagram.com/muzamilhasanLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan#SovereignAI #PakistanEconomy #ArtificialIntelligence #DataCenters #DollarCrisis
Thu, 13 Aug 2026 - 24min - 586 - They Are Lying to You About Pakistan’s New AI Data Centers | Dil ki Baat
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Will the new Sky47 AI Data Center drink all of Pakistan's water and destroy our power grid? In this episode of Dil Ki Baat, [FIX THIS SENTENCE — your paste scrambled it. Suggested: I break down the panic that erupted across Pakistan and expose the actual math behind data center water consumption.] From solving our crippling grid capacity payments to building Sovereign AI, this is why local data centers are a matter of national security.
On this Dil Ki Baat episode, we look past the sensational headlines to understand the macro-economic realities of technology. Recently, the launch of the Sky47 Data Center in Capital Smart City sparked outrage online, with educated Pakistanis claiming it will cause severe water and electricity shortages. Today, I am breaking down the first principles of AI infrastructure. We explore why Pakistan's 1/3rd grid utilization makes us the perfect candidate to export AI compute (tokens), why the water usage is literally 0.01%, and why building Sovereign AI is as critical today as the nuclear program was in the 1970s. If we don't build our own data centers, we face a new era of digital colonization.
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Wed, 12 Aug 2026 - 26min - 585 - The End of Chatbots: Why "Agentic OS" is the Next Trillion-Dollar AI Race
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Fri, 07 Aug 2026 - 1h 04min - 584 - AI is Destroying Entry-Level Jobs (Stop Buying Courses) | TBT Podcast
Is AI actually destroying the job market for fresh graduates? In this episode, Ghalib Hasam returns to the podcast to break down the harsh reality of the post-AI job market, why the traditional "Apply Now" button is dead, and exactly how to use cold outreach to land high-paying remote US jobs from Pakistan.
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On the TBT Podcast, we constantly explore how macroeconomic shifts and technological revolutions impact our lives. Today, we go beyond the theory. I share my vulnerable, real-time journey of moving to America, leaving my comfortable life in Pakistan behind, and getting brutally rejected while doing door-to-door sales for my AI automation business. If you want to survive the upcoming economic shifts and dollarize your income, you need to kill your ego, stop buying useless courses, and learn how to build real international leverage.
Thu, 06 Aug 2026 - 1h 20min - 583 - I Cloned My Brain with AI (And Now It Runs My Entire Business) | Dil ki Baat
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How do you move past the AI hype cycle and actually build something real? In this update, I break down exactly how I used Claude Code, Google Gemini, and autonomous AI agents to build a "Second Brain" that runs my business 24/7. From automating my YouTube comment replies to having a team of AI agents code an entire operating system from scratch, this is what the future of work looks like.
On the TBT Podcast, we talk a lot about the changing macroeconomic landscape and technology adoption. While Pakistan is rapidly waking up to the AI revolution, the real value isn't in just using chatbots - it's in deploying autonomous agents to solve real-world problems. Today, I’m showing you the unpolished, behind-the-scenes reality of building an AI automation agency, including getting humbled while trying to sell these systems door-to-door to small businesses in America.
Chapters:
Intro: AI Adoption in Pakistan & Escaping the Hype Cycle
How I Transcribed 550 Podcast Episodes for FREE (Gemini API)
Building My "Second Brain" (Inspired by Andrej Karpathy)
Automating YouTube Comments with an AI Clone of Myself
From Loops to Headless Agents: Hiring an AI CMO & SEO Team
Graph Engineering: My Agents Built a Software Platform By Themselves!
Arc Recon: Scraping Maps to Score Local Business Leads
Door-to-Door Sales in America: Getting Rejected & Humbled
Virtual Machines & Deploying AI Systems for Clients
Live Tracking My Company Stats
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Tue, 04 Aug 2026 - 56min - 582 - Why did Mufti Taqi Usmani declare cryptocurrency haram? ft Qanit Khalilullah | TBT Podcast
Kanit Khalilullah explains why Pakistan's debt-based banking system is a bigger trap than cryptocurrency, and how full reserve banking could eliminate domestic debt.
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Kanit Khalilullah returns to explain the real crisis behind Pakistan's economy: fractional reserve banking. While Mufti Taqi Usmani's recent fatwa against cryptocurrency made headlines, the elephant in the room is how commercial banks create money out of thin air through debt, inflating the currency supply by 50% in just three years.
Pakistan's domestic debt has ballooned from 5 trillion to 55 trillion rupees in 15 years. Every month, the government borrows 500 billion rupees from banks and immediately pays it back as interest, feeding a cycle that now consumes 60% of tax revenue. By 2032, debt payments will eat 93% of the federal budget. Kanit argues that full reserve banking, where the state controls money creation, could eliminate domestic debt, end inflation, and restore economic stability.
This is not theoretical. His book, Breaking the Trap of Debt, Inflation, Interest, and Poverty, has been reviewed by 20 economists and bankers, including the deputy chairman of Faysal Bank and Arif Habib. The solution exists. The question is whether Pakistan's policymakers, military leadership, and religious scholars will confront the system that benefits a few at the expense of 250 million people.
Chapters:
0:00 Mufti Taqi Usmani's cryptocurrency fatwa and the real debate
5:10 Why Bitcoin is not currency but speculation
11:35 Bitcoin as a hedge against dollar liquidity
15:47 Gold standard vs fractional reserve banking
20:00 How Pakistan's debt jumped 31 to 46 trillion in 3 years
28:58 93% of federal budget will go to debt by 2032
1:06:24 The book that could end Pakistan's debt trap
1:08:35 Have policymakers, army, or clergy responded?
1:14:27 Islamic banking's cosmetic wrappers on the same system
1:18:11 DG Budgets Pakistan Army's 2032 debt projection
1:22:04 Next steps: advocacy, courts, and awareness
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Fri, 31 Jul 2026 - 1h 24min - 581 - How Hafiz Ahmed built a million-dollar Amazon business from zero ft. Hafiz Ahmed | TBT Podcast
Hafiz Ahmed shares his journey from a UK warehouse packer to building a million-dollar Amazon FBA business, then losing it overnight and rebuilding in Pakistan.
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Hafiz Ahmed built a £600,000 Amazon FBA business from a £300 starting investment, then lost it all overnight when his partner locked him out. In this conversation, he walks through his entire journey: leaving rural Bahawalpur for the UK on a student visa, working 18-hour shifts in Amazon warehouses and gas stations, spotting the opportunity to sell on Amazon himself, and scaling one product (a V-pillow) to 1,500 orders a day. He explains how he came back to Pakistan, restarted with zero capital, and built multiple income streams in e-commerce, trading, and services.
We talk about what actually works on Amazon in 2025, how AI is changing e-commerce workflows, why personal branding matters more than ads, and what the next 25 years look like for Pakistanis earning in dollars. Hafiz also shares the fraud he faced, the lessons he learned, and why he believes anyone with domain knowledge can use AI to 10x their output. If you're in e-commerce, thinking about Amazon FBA, or trying to figure out how to earn in dollars from Pakistan, this is the conversation.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction: Hafiz Ahmed's journey and why we're talking now
2:15 Early life in Bahawalpur and moving to Lahore
4:32 Going to the UK on a student visa with no plan to study
8:16 From warehouse packer to Amazon seller: the first product
13:13 What a V-pillow is and how one product built a house in Lahore
16:49 Losing the £600k business overnight: partner fraud
19:39 Restarting from zero in Pakistan in 2017
20:26 How Sunny Ali and Saqib Azhar brought me back into Amazon
22:35 What I'm doing now: products, services, and multiple income streams
25:29 Amazon margins explained: why million-dollar sales don't mean profit
46:00 Why I moved to the US and what changed
1:05:00 Personal branding vs paid ads: what actually compounds
1:25:58 How AI is changing e-commerce and who benefits most
1:34:47 What I see for Pakistan in 2050 and why dollar income matters
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Tue, 28 Jul 2026 - 1h 40min - 580 - The Dark Reality of AI: Why You Won't Be Able to Afford the Future ft. Ahmad Awais | TBT Podcast
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The world of software engineering is changing faster than we realize, and the AI tools we are building might be leading us into a massive financial bubble.
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, Muzamil sits down with Ahmad Awais, the founder and CEO of Command Code, to uncover the reality of the global AI race. Ahmad shares his incredible journey from an electrical engineering student in Multan to an award-winning open-source developer who contributed to the NASA Mars Ingenuity Helicopter mission.
We do a deep dive into the underlying tokenomics of AI models, why API inference costs are artificially inflated, and how open-source platforms are fundamentally disrupting the monopolies of Silicon Valley tech giants. Ahmad also sheds light on his frontier coding agent, Command Code, and the lack of branding and community support for Pakistani builders on the global stage.
If you want to understand the true cost of the AI boom, how developers are adapting, and what the future of software looks like, you cannot afford to miss this conversation.
Topics Covered:
Ahmad's unconventional path from Multan to Silicon Valley
• The truth behind AI tokenomics and API inference costs
• Why the current AI landscape resembles the dot-com bubble
• How open-source models are challenging closed ecosystems
• The branding problem for Pakistani tech talent on the global stage
• How Command Code is making coding agents accessible to the next billion developers
Mon, 27 Jul 2026 - 1h 34min - 579 - STOP What You Are Doing and Learn Claude Code NOW! (Before It's Too Late)
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I spent the last 8 years entirely away from coding, dealing with imposter syndrome and fearing that software engineers were going to leave the rest of us behind in the AI era. But over the last two weeks, my mind has been completely blown.
In just 5 days, working alone, I built a fully functional platform that would have easily cost me $30,000 to $40,000 and taken months of back-and-forth with a traditional software house. And I did it all without writing a single line of code myself.
In this video, I am pulling back the curtain on the true power of AI for non-technical domain experts. If you know how your industry works - whether you are a creator, a doctor, or a lawyer - you now have the ultimate advantage because the middleman is dead.
In this video, we cover:
• The AI Brain: How I indexed 7.5 MILLION spoken words from my YouTube channel to create an automated content machine.
• The Replit vs. Claude Code Truth: Why I accidentally burned $500 in 4 days, and the 3-hour process I used (with Gemini's help) to move everything to Claude Code.
• The End of Software Engineers?: Why a domain expert talking to an AI can build a better product in 5 days than an engineer can in 50 days.
• The Wealth Bubble: Why you need to stop acting broke, invest $20 in your tools, and capture this massive opportunity before the bubble bursts.
• The Reveal: A live screen-share of the exact platform I built with zero technical background.
The "Utopia vs. Dystopia" debate is a distraction. The real opportunity is in combining these tools to solve real-world problems. You cannot afford to miss this cycle!
Let me know in the comments: Are you actively building with tools like Claude Code, or are you still stuck in the "free" chatbot world? What is your use case? Let's discuss!
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Thu, 02 Jul 2026 - 55min - 578 - 523 | The Secret Plan to Dismantle the US Empire (It's Already Happening) | TBT
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The Hidden System Controlling the World (And How It Ends) | Simon Dixon on Thought Behind Things
The world is changing faster than we can comprehend, and the narratives we're being fed by the media are just theatrics. In this explosive episode of Thought Behind Things, Muzamil sits down with geopolitical and financial analyst Simon Dixon to uncover the hidden power dynamics shaping our future.
Simon breaks down how the world is truly run by transnational capital and the Financial Industrial Complex—and why the American Empire is intentionally being asset-stripped to usher in a new multipolar world order. From the covert operations that fuel the Military Industrial Complex to the hidden reasons behind the conflicts in the Middle East, this conversation will completely shatter your understanding of global politics.
We also dive deep into Pakistan's crucial role in this transition, why the AI stock market boom is a massive wealth extraction scheme, and why holding your own Bitcoin keys is the only way to escape the incoming global surveillance state.
If you want to understand the real reasons behind global wars, inflation, and the shifting power from West to East, you cannot afford to miss this.
Topics Covered:
The secret history of Transnational Capital (From the Dutch Empire to the US)
The Financial, Military, and Technical Industrial Complexes
Why the US is intentionally losing its grip on the world
The truth about the Middle East conflicts and the Gulf States' master plan
Pakistan's unique leverage in the new Multipolar World Order
How China built a financial fortress the West cannot penetrate
The AI bubble, SpaceX, and the incoming stock market crash
Why Wall Street is trying to steal your Bitcoin (and how to protect it)
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Tue, 30 Jun 2026 - 1h 57min - 577 - How to Get Rich in the Next 10 Years: The Space Tech Roadmap
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AI is disrupting the job market, but the biggest wealth transfer of our generation isn't just happening on Earth - it’s happening in Space. 🚀
For decades, we thought the Space industry was just for government agencies like NASA or PhD-level rocket scientists. But just like the IT boom of the 90s and 2000s, the Space Economy is undergoing a massive deflation in costs. SpaceX's reusable rockets are driving the cost of sending payloads to orbit from thousands of dollars down to $1500/kg, and eventually to $10/kg.
What does this mean for you? It means a projected $6 Trillion industry by 2050. It means zero-gravity manufacturing, orbital data centers, commercial space stations, and lunar bases are becoming an economic reality.
In this video, we break away from the "doom and gloom" anxiety-selling on social media to focus on genuine, high-growth opportunities. We discuss why engineering (Mechanical, Electrical, Mechatronics, Materials) is far from dead, how the "SpaceX Mafia" is funding the next wave of startups, and how students and professionals from Pakistan, India, and beyond can position themselves for this massive technological shift.
Stop panicking about the future. Let's prepare for it.
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Sat, 20 Jun 2026 - 44min - 576 - SpaceX vs AI Bubble: The Greatest Stock Market Crash is Coming
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Elon Musk just became the world's first trillionaire, and SpaceX’s IPO shattered records with a $2 Trillion valuation. But is this the dawn of a new space economy, or the most elaborate financial trap in history?
In this video, we unpack the harsh reality behind the SpaceX IPO that Wall Street doesn't want you to see. While the headlines scream about innovation, the numbers tell a different story: SpaceX is currently sitting on a massive $5 Billion loss against $18 Billion in revenue. We break down the exact price-to-earnings (P/E) ratios and compare SpaceX’s fundamentals to tech giants like Nvidia, Apple, and TSMC to show you why this valuation is dangerously inflated.
For Pakistani investors, tech freelancers, and businessmen, it is easy to get caught up in the FOMO and "double Shah" schemes. But we are connecting the dots to reveal the hidden agenda:
• How the SpaceX IPO is actually a massive bailout for elite investors stuck in the X (Twitter) and xAI acquisitions.
• The unprecedented financial engineering, including NASDAQ bypassing its 1-year price discovery rule to just 15 days.
• How 30% of the initial stock float is targeting retail investors to use them as exit liquidity while insiders quietly dump their shares.
• The engineering reality behind Elon's promise to build "AI Data Centers in Space".
Stop chasing the short-term pumps and dumps. Learn how to disconnect the tech innovation from the financial noise, avoid the upcoming market crash, and position yourself for genuine, long-term wealth creation over the next 20 years.
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Tue, 16 Jun 2026 - 59min - 575 - Pakistani Freelancer: Stop Bringing Dollars Directly to Your Bank!
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Most hardworking people in Pakistan are trapped in a cycle of paying heavy, unoptimized taxes while watching the country's wealthiest elites drive luxury cars and legally report almost zero taxable income. The truth is, the rich aren't necessarily cheating the system - they just understand how corporate structuring and legal optimization actually work.
In this episode of Dil Ki Baat, we break down exactly how you can shift out of a high-anxiety, cash-only mindset and start playing the global wealth game. Whether you are a salaried corporate professional trying to lower your tax bracket, a freelancer earning in dollars, or an entrepreneur looking to structure a Dubai HoldCo - this video is your survival guide to navigating the FBR system and expanding your horizons as a global citizen.
Plus, stay tuned until the end for a raw behind-the-scenes update on my personal AI-led single-person SaaS business build using Replit, and how a world-class designer completely roasted my website!
📌 What You Will Learn:
The "Elites" vs. The Middle Class: Why the average salary class in Pakistan pays more tax than billionaires, and the legal optimization structures keeping the rich ahead.
The Salaried Class Blueprint: How to legally lower your taxable income using medical receipts, certified systematic donations, and corporate pension or mutual funds.
The Contractor Strategy: How to talk to your employer about transitioning from a formal employee to an independent contractor under a sole proprietorship to radically drop your tax rate.
The Ultimate Freelancer & Remote Worker Hack: Why bringing foreign revenue straight into personal bank accounts is a massive mistake, and how setting up a family payroll or a Dubai HoldCo protects your hard-earned dollars.
Global Mobility & Mindset: Why breaking out of your local comfort zone and exploring digital nomad visas (like Malaysia or Thailand) will skyrocket your personal and spiritual growth.
Fri, 12 Jun 2026 - 39min - 574 - 522 | How to Land a Remote US Tech Job From Pakistan (Without a Degree) | TBT
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The Service Industry is Dying: What Pakistani Freelancers Must Do Next | Asaad MahmoodThe global services industry is going through a massive, undeniable shift. Old models of selling basic tasks are becoming redundant, and AI is rapidly automating mechanical work. So, how do you survive and actually scale your income in this new reality?
In this episode of Thought Behind Things , we sit down with Asaad Mahmood, a UI/UX designer and expert vetted Upwork talent who has generated over $2 million in revenue. Asaad shares his journey of landing a full-time job at a major open-source company (Mattermost) right out of O-levels , and breaks down exactly how the nature of global remote work is changing.
We do a deep dive into why selling "outputs" (like a simple thumbnail design) is a race to the bottom , and how transitioning to selling high-value "outcomes" is the only way forward. Asaad also shares his two-engine framework for becoming undeniably good at your craft and building a digital footprint that attracts premium global clients.
Whether you are a designer, developer, or agency owner, this conversation is a masterclass in positioning yourself for the global market.
Tue, 09 Jun 2026 - 52min - 573 - Meezan Bank’s 55 Crore CEO & The Illusion of "Islamic" Finance
The upcoming national budget is scheduled to be announced on June 10, and the writing is on the wall: an extremely tough year dictated by IMF pressure is ahead. In this breakdown, we strip away the political narratives to examine the brutal first principles of Pakistan's macroeconomics and tax structures.
This isn't just about the necessity of raising the tax-to-GDP ratio; it’s about the massive inequity in who pays. We are looking at a system designed to endlessly squeeze the salaried class while entirely shielding rent-seekers, the sugar mafia, and massive undocumented retail sectors. We critically analyze PASHA's recent maneuver to throw independent digital remote workers under the bus simply because legacy IT staff augmentation models are collapsing under the efficiency of AI.
Additionally, we dissect the systemic contradictions in energy and transition policies—specifically, the logic of taxing solar adoption and hybrid/electric vehicles when reducing oil imports is a critical macroeconomic necessity. Finally, we look at the reality of institutional wealth building in Pakistan, using the 55 crore annual compensation of Meezan Bank's CEO as a case study in how record profitability is actually generated through government debt spreads rather than genuine economic value creation.
It is time to stop expecting the system to fix itself and start understanding how to legally and strategically optimize your own wealth and taxes in a hostile economic environment.
Sat, 06 Jun 2026 - 45min - 572 - 521 | ChatGPT Predicts the Top 5 Industries for the Next 25 Years | TBT
As part of our continuous exploration into the future of work, we dive deep into the ultimate final frontier: the space economy. What does a real 25-year roadmap look like for sustainable space stations, asteroid mining, and human settlement?
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Welcome back to a brand-new episode of Thought Behind Things. As part of our comprehensive look into technological evolution, today we shift our focus from AI automation to a completely different type of macroeconomic transformation: the emergence of the commercial space industry.
Using first-principles thinking, we unpack a highly realistic 25-year roadmap. We look at what happens when the International Space Station officially retires, how the private sector is stepping in to launch independent space networks, and how upcoming initiatives are shifting the definition of the modern professional. From planetary geology and space-based architecture to specialized logistics, the upcoming cosmic ecosystem is set to generate thousands of specialized, high-value global careers.
Today, I am joined by Hassan Mohsin, a 22-year-old astrophysics graduate and research student at the International Institute for Astronautical Sciences. Hassan shares his firsthand experience training for suborbital flight simulations, testing space suits, and running science payloads in zero gravity—all while navigating the global market under a primary Pakistani passport.
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Fri, 05 Jun 2026 - 59min - 571 - The "YouTubification" of Software: AI's Trillion-Dollar Shift
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In this video, I break down the "YouTubification of Software" and how AI platforms like Replit and Cursor are eliminating the need for traditional venture capital and massive engineering teams. You no longer need to be a technical expert to build a product; through "vibe coding," anyone can translate a problem statement into a functional app overnight. I also share how I automated my own repeatable client tasks in just one night using Replit, despite not writing code for 10 years. The future belongs to those who focus on business outcomes and community problem-solving, not just technical outputs.
Wed, 03 Jun 2026 - 34min - 570 - 520 | How to Land a US Remote Job from Pakistan (Step-by-Step) Ft Ghalib Hassam | TBT
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The global market doesn't care about your local degree; it cares about your skills. Today, we break down exactly how to pivot into the international remote workforce and start earning in dollars.
Welcome back to another episode of Thought Behind Things. Today, I sit down with Ghalib Hassam, Head of Content at Darkroom, to deconstruct his journey from an engineering background into leading marketing for a global agency. We discuss the realities of the job market, the exact LinkedIn and personal branding strategies needed to land international remote roles, and how to leverage AI tools to supercharge your productivity.
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Fri, 29 May 2026 - 1h 02min - 569 - Stop Panicking About AI: What History Teaches Us About Tech Booms
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In this episode, we sit down for an honest, raw, and authentic conversation about the current state of Artificial Intelligence. Right now, there is a massive mismatch between two competing narratives: one claiming AI is an overhyped bubble with crazy valuations that cannot sustain itself, and the other predicting it will completely change the world, bring universal basic income, and leave everyone jobless.
We dive deep into the history of financial and technological bubbles to make sense of the noise and the current "attention economy". From the railway boom of the 1850s that revolutionized transport but bankrupted companies , the technological frenzy of the 1920s that preceded the Great Depression , to the Dot-Com bubble of 2001 , history shows us a clear pattern. While short-term hype often leads to a market crash, the underlying technologies—like electricity, the internet, and now AI—fundamentally change how we live and generate massive long-term wealth for those who focus on real value.
If you are feeling the anxiety and FOMO around AI, trying to frantically build products to get rich quick, this video is for you. We discuss why you need to ignore the internet noise, stop listening to the "finance bros" selling fear, and instead focus on how AI will increase productivity over the next 20 to 30 years of your career.
Mon, 25 May 2026 - 34min - 568 - Why China’s Free AI Strategy Could Change Everything
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Why is China giving away its most advanced artificial intelligence for free, and what does it mean for the future of the global economy?
In this episode of Dil ki Baat, we go beyond the standard sci-fi narratives to analyze the massive geopolitical and economic rivalry between the United States and China over the future of AI. While Western tech giants like OpenAI and Anthropic burn billions of dollars subsidizing compute costs to lock users into expensive, dollar-based subscription models, China is taking a radically different approach. By releasing highly capable, open-weight models like DeepSeek and Qwen completely for free, China isn't just competing in tech—they are systematically commoditizing digital intelligence to choke the American financial stronghold.
We break down the first principles of this global order transformation. What happens to the Silicon Valley business model when world-class AI becomes free? More importantly, how does this shift create a massive opportunity for the Global South? We explore how local businesses and developers can leverage this open-source revolution to build local infrastructure, escape high API token costs, and achieve true "intelligence sovereignty."
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Sat, 23 May 2026 - 36min - 567 - Is AI A Trap? The Geopolitical Reality No One Is Talking About
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In this episode of "Dil Ki Baat", Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi uncovers the stark geopolitical reality hiding beneath the mainstream AI hype. While the world focuses on chatbots and billionaire "tech bros", the hyper-acceleration of artificial intelligence and robotics is actually an existential race against time for the Western world.
Facing a mounting sovereign debt crisis, the United States and Europe have only a decade left to successfully commoditize intelligence and labor. If they succeed, their reliance on the Global South will drop to zero, effectively killing the old world order.
What does this massive structural rewiring mean for a country like Pakistan? We dive deep into the macroeconomic equations driving civilization, the danger of relying on fading Western markets, and why Pakistan must urgently build trade corridors with Central Asia, the Middle East, Russia, and China.
Key Takeaways:
The AI Illusion: Mainstream AI hype acts as a smokescreen for global power restructuring.
The West's Crisis: The developed world is utilizing AI to offset a severe shortage of domestic labor and intelligence.
Economic Impact: The US debt crisis is directly forcing a shift from globalized trade to localized, automated production.
Pakistan's Survival: Survival requires abandoning an American-centric worldview and embracing regional integration.
The 10-Year Window: The Global South has roughly a decade to invest in critical intelligence and education before the West locks down its technological dominance.
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Fri, 22 May 2026 - 36min - 566 - 519 | aunching Pakistan's First Giga Factory! Can EVEE Scooters Replace Honda CD 70? | TBT
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In this episode of Thought Behind Things, Muzamil Hasan sits down with Saad Farrukh, CEO of Evee Scooters, to discuss the booming Electric Vehicle (EV) market in Pakistan. With petrol prices constantly rising, is it finally time to ditch your conventional bike and switch to an electric scooter?
We dive deep into the real economics of owning an EV bike versus a Honda 70, exploring the massive fuel savings, the ongoing debate between Graphene and Lithium-ion batteries, and what the future holds for EV localization in Pakistan. Saad also shares exciting news about launching Pakistan's very first EV Giga Factory, with a massive capacity of 300,000 units, and the entry of Chinese manufacturers aiming to build components locally.
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Sat, 16 May 2026 - 45min - 565 - 518 | Exposing Pakistan’s Tech Bubble: VC Frauds & AI Disruption | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi sits down with Mutaher Khan, founder of Data Darbar and business columnist, to expose the harsh realities of Pakistan's startup and IT sectors. They discuss the controversial collapse of major startups like Airlift, uncovering how underlying operational issues and inflated expectations from venture capitalists damaged the ecosystem. The conversation also tackles the massive shift brought on by Artificial Intelligence. Will AI destroy Pakistan's IT services export market, or is there a massive upside? Mutaher argues that while generic IT jobs are at risk, non-tech professionals like lawyers and accountants can use AI to build highly profitable micro-agencies.
Key Topics Discussed:
The dark reality of IT sector scams in Lahore, including identity and social security fraud.
Why Pakistani business journalism fails to cover major startup failures and relies on click-driven PR.
The role of VCs in setting unrealistic growth expectations for founders in an unstable economy.
How AI could potentially disrupt Pakistan's tech exports and knowledge work economy.
The massive wealth opportunity in building specialized, AI-powered micro-agencies with extreme per-employee revenue.
Why established business groups like Fatima Group and Jazz are finally shifting towards export-focused tech services.
Fri, 15 May 2026 - 1h 02min - 564 - 517 | Zardari System & 28th Amendment: Is the PPP Empire on Fire? | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi sits down with prominent radio host and Raftaar panelist Adeel Azhar to uncover the harsh realities of Pakistan's economy. While the government boasts about reaching a $450 billion GDP and nearing 4% growth , we expose the massive disconnect between official statistics and the brutal ground reality for everyday citizens.
We dive deep into how the state is squeezing the public through aggressive taxation, including a staggering 1.2 trillion rupee Petroleum Development Levy that is breaking the backs of the middle class. Adeel also warns about terrifying new wealth extraction methods on the horizon, predicting that the government will inevitably target the middle class with new taxes on residential solar setups and Electric Vehicles (EVs).
Furthermore, we unpack the political chaos driving this economic crisis. We analyze the PML-N's current standing and waning influence in Punjab , as well as the PPP's controversial administrative grip over Karachi and rural Sindh. Finally, we discuss the complete collapse of local and foreign investor confidence, exploring why restoring credibility in Pakistan might fundamentally require bringing Imran Khan back into the political discourse.
Key Topics Covered:
• Why the government's recent GDP growth numbers might be hiding a much darker economic reality.
• How the state's failure to broaden the tax base is leading to the complete destruction of the salaried middle class.
• The upcoming threats to energy sovereignty, including potential satellite-monitored taxes on home solar panels.
• The political reality of Karachi, the consequences of the 18th Amendment, and the PPP's "system".
• Why the youth are completely disillusioned with the current political elite and why Gen Z's emotional attachment to the country is fading.
• The necessity of Imran Khan's return to the political playing field to restore national stability and investment credibility.
Let me know in the comments below: How are you protecting your savings right now, and do you think the government will actually put a tax on solar?
Thu, 14 May 2026 - 1h 40min - 563 - 516 | Exposing Pakistan’s Tech Bubble: VC Frauds & AI Disruption | TBT
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In this episode of Thought Behind Things, Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi sits down with Daniyal Siddiqui to uncover the real economics of renewable energy. Daniyal is the founder and CEO of DS Group of companies. His company is the largest solar provider for the industrial sector, having deployed over 780 megawatts of solar and installed systems in over 1400 homes across Pakistan.
With petrol prices increasing and electricity subsidies ending, we discuss whether solar is the best guaranteed return on investment today. Daniyal breaks down the staggering drop in solar panel prices from 35 cents a watt to just 12 cents. We also tackle the massive controversy surrounding NEPRA's shift from net metering to net billing.
Furthermore, we explore the explosive future of battery technology. We compare the current lithium-ion market to the highly anticipated sodium-ion batteries, which promise up to 10,000 charge cycles and massive cost reductions. Daniyal explains that utilizing a battery currently costs between 14.5 to 15 rupees per unit without factoring in financial models. Finally, we dive into long-term solutions for Pakistan's power grid, including the potential privatization of DISCOs and the revolutionary concept of community micro-grids.
Key Topics Covered:
• The current state and economics of the solar industry in Pakistan.
• How a 1 megawatt industrial solar plant currently costs around 75 million PKR to set up.
• The impact of the government imposing a 10% sales tax on solar equipment.
• Why residential customers can expect an ROI of about four to four-and-a-half years on battery-less solutions.
• How the net billing policy changes the buying rate to the national average of 11 to 12 rupees.
• The truth behind China's dominance in the solar and battery supply chain.
• Why the Combined Trade Bilateral Market Mechanism (CTBCM) or "wheeling" will change energy buying by 2028.
Let us know in the comments: Do you have solar at home, and what are you doing with your cash savings during this high inflation?
Tue, 12 May 2026 - 1h 05min - 562 - Rs. 415 Petrol Scam: Why The Government Is Robbing You Blind
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Petrol prices have hit Rs. 415, and the blame game is everywhere. Is it really the IMF and international markets, or is there a bigger tax game at play?
Welcome back to another episode of Dil Ki Baat. In today's video, we do a data-driven breakdown of the recent fuel price hikes in Pakistan. We look past the populist narratives to uncover the actual ex-factory price of oil, the heavy government levies, and how the NFC Award might be secretly influencing your petrol bill. More importantly, we discuss the dropping remittances from the Middle East and provide actionable solutions (like solar and EVs) to help you escape this dollarized inflation trap.
Intro & The "Tax to GDP" Narrative
The Real Breakdown of the Rs. 415 Petrol Price
Is the IMF Really Forcing This? (The 80 Rs Levy Explained)
Why the Government Needs to Destroy Demand
The Failure of Strategic Oil Reserves
Taxing the Public vs. Taxing the Elite
The NFC Award Conspiracy: A Federal vs. Provincial War
Middle East Tourism & Remittance Drops
Actionable Solutions: Solar, EVs, and Protecting Your Wealth
Outro
Mon, 11 May 2026 - 30min - 561 - Your Electricity Is About To Get More Expensive!
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In today’s episode of Dil Ki Baat, I’m taking a contrarian stand on a news piece that has everyone talking: Pakistan’s agreement with the IMF to end electricity subsidies for consumers using under 200 units by 2026.
While the popular narrative calls this an "attack on the poor," I explain why moving toward a free market is not only economically essential but also aligned with Islamic principles of commerce. We dive deep into:
• The inefficiency of artificial price controls.
• How "blanket subsidies" are often exploited by the middle and upper-middle class.
• The "Elite Capture" by local IPPs and industrialists who enjoy guaranteed dollar-pegged returns.
• A Sahih Hadith on price fixing that we should have been taught in school.
It’s time we stop looking for short-term "feel-good" fixes and start addressing the actual bottom-line problem: Energy.
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Sat, 09 May 2026 - 21min - 560 - Pakistan’s Real Estate Pump is Coming (Time to Get Rich?)
The Federal Constitutional Court just struck down Section 7E, ending the tax on second and third properties. While the real estate sector celebrates, is this actually a win for Pakistan, or just another cycle of the real estate "Choona"?
In this episode of Dil Ki Baat, I am taking an "Urta Teer" to explain the macroeconomic reality behind this ruling. We break down the disparity between the heavily taxed salaried class and the tax-exempt real estate elite, the concept of "exit liquidity," and why I foresee a massive pump and dump cycle coming to the property market right as the IMF agreements proceed.
If you are thinking of parking your hard-earned cash in an unproductive plot to double your money, you need to watch this first.
Let me know your philosophy and logic in the comments below!
Chapters:
The Section 7E Verdict & The Real Estate Celebration
What Exactly Was the Finance Act 2022 (Section 7E)?
The Problem with Hoarding Unproductive Land
Islamic Finance, Wealth Hoarding & Productivity
The Approaching Real Estate "Pump and Dump"
Why the Elite Desperately Need Exit Liquidity
Tax Disparity: The Salaried Class vs. The Real Estate Sector
How Finance Capitalism Actually Runs Pakistan
Fri, 08 May 2026 - 27min - 559 - Why Pakistan's Economy Keeps Losing (and how to fix it)
Sign Up For My Personal Brand Consultancy: https://www.muzamilhasan.com/My Instagram: https://instagram.com/muzamilhasanMy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Why is the global economic order shifting, and where does Pakistan stand in the transition to a multipolar world?To understand true sovereignty, you must look past GDP figures and analyze the four indigenous pillars of an economy: Energy, Labor, Intelligence, and Raw Materials. In this deep dive, we compare the foundational data of the USA, China, India, and Pakistan. The numbers reveal a stark reality about who actually controls global supply chains, why America’s labor shortage is an existential threat, and how China is dominating the physical economy.We also break down the critical bottleneck of "Intelligence"—and why Artificial Intelligence is the only way developing nations can leapfrog the traditional economic cycle.The 4 Variables of a Sovereign EconomyPillar 1: Energy (Why USA is Half of China)Pakistan's Energy Crisis & True CapacityPillar 2: Labor & The Demographic ThreatPillar 3: Intelligence (Human vs AI)Brain Drain & The Cost of IgnorancePillar 4: Raw Materials (Coal, Steel & Rare Earth)Why Pakistan Lacks True SovereigntyHow AI Will Fix the Global Intelligence Bottleneck
Thu, 07 May 2026 - 41min - 558 - 515 | Why Pakistan's Hybrid System is Failing | Yasir Ahmed | TBT
Are the days of external patronage for Pakistan over? In this episode of Thought Behind Things, Muzamil Hasan Zaidi sits down with brilliant political analyst Yasir Ahmed Sumro to decode the changing world order and its direct impact on Pakistan's political economy.
Yasir breaks down why the US and Middle Eastern states can no longer afford to fund Pakistan's rent-seeking elite, why traditional political parties like PTI, PML-N, and PPP are becoming irrelevant, and what the looming "pajama of accountability" means for the future of the hybrid regime. If you want to understand the real geopolitical puzzle happening in Islamabad and across Pakistan, this is a must-watch.
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⏱️ Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro & The Changing Global World Order
3:20 - America's Struggles & the Rise of China
10:15 - Pakistan's DNA & History as a 'Gun for Hire'
16:40 - The End of Arab & US "Free Money"
24:10 - Future of the Hybrid Regime
32:00 - Imran Khan, PML-N, and the PPP's Dilemma
41:30 - The 'Pajama of Accountability' & Total Control
50:00 - Will the Judicial System Roll Back?
55:45 - 2030 Predictions: Chaos or Solution?
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Wed, 06 May 2026 - 1h 07min - 557 - How China is Destroying the Middle East's Oil Monopoly
In this episode of "Dil Ki Baat," we dive deep into the geopolitical shift of Cold War 2.0 and how energy supply chains are reshaping the entire world. With China controlling 80% of the solar supply chain and 77% of lithium-ion battery production, the traditional dominance of oil-rich Middle Eastern countries is under massive threat.We discuss the revolutionary new sodium-ion battery technology announced by CATL, which boasts a 40-year lifespan, 15,000 charging cycles, and requires a fraction of the cost of lithium-ion, threatening to completely decentralize energy markets. Finally, we explore what this transition means for developing nations like Pakistan, warning against outdated investments like the $10 Billion Saudi refinery, and questioning whether the region should align with Western fossil fuel dependencies or China's renewable energy future.My Instagram: https://instagram.com/muzamilhasanMy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Fri, 01 May 2026 - 29min - 556 - Real Reason Behind the US Iran War: Energy, Pipelines & New World Order
Assalam o Alaikum! Welcome back to another episode of Dil Ki Baat. In today's video, we decode the massive geopolitical shifts happening around us. While many believe the US-Iran conflict is purely ideological, the truth is deeply rooted in energy, oil pipelines, and global economic survival.In this episode, we discuss:The Hidden Agendas of War: How energy pipelines fueled conflicts in Syria, Ukraine (Nord Stream), Libya, and Iraq.The Power of Energy: Why controlling oil and gas equals controlling the global economy, and how the US built its superpower status through early oil industrialization.The Renewable Revolution: How China is taking over the world order by capturing 80% of the solar panel market and 77% of the battery market.The Middle East Crisis: Why Saudi Arabia and the UAE are desperately diversifying their economies (NEOM, sports, tourism) as the era of "peak oil" approaches.The Tipping Point: Analyzing academic reports that prove solar energy is now vastly cheaper than fossil fuels, threatening 13 million oil and gas jobs.Pakistan’s New Role: How Pakistan is opening new trade routes with Iran and Central Asia, defying historical pressures, and signaling the rise of a New World Order.If you want to understand why things are changing so rapidly and what it means for the future, make sure to watch until the end! Let me know your thoughts in the comments.My Instagram: https://instagram.com/muzamilhasanMy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and the US-Iran Conflict00:55 The Role of Energy in Global Conflicts02:00 Historical Precedents: Ukraine, Libya, and Iraq04:02 The Future of Energy and Geopolitics05:21 The Evolution of the Global Energy Market06:41 The Rise of Renewable Energy07:55 China's Dominance and Global Restructuring09:46 The Pivot Towards Tech and Renewable Adoption10:54 Academic Insights on Energy Transition12:47 The Tipping Point for Fossil Fuels14:01 The Economics of Clean Tech vs. Oil and Gas15:09 The Impact on Global Geopolitics and the Middle East17:09 Conclusion: A Changing World Order
Thu, 30 Apr 2026 - 23min - 555 - Why Science Made Me More Spiritual, Not Less.
In this very raw and personal episode of Dil Ki Baat, I’m opening up about my spiritual journey. Growing up in a conservative Pakistani household, religion always felt like a transaction—just collecting "Jannat points." This frustration pushed me towards agnosticism and questioning everything.But eventually, studying evolutionary computing, simulation theory, and science didn't pull me further from the Creator; it actually brought me closer to Him. Here is my story of unlearning cultural dogmas, fighting the human Ego, and finding true spirituality outside the boundaries of organized religion.Let me know your thoughts in the comments. Have you ever gone through a phase of questioning your faith?My Instagram: https://instagram.com/muzamilhasanMy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Chapters:Intro & Disclaimer (Why this is hard to talk about)Organized Religion vs. True SpiritualityGrowing up Conservative & The "Jannat Points" SystemWhy I became Liberal / Agnostic in High SchoolHow Science & Evolutionary Computing Changed My MindAre we living in a Simulation created by God?The Ultimate Human Test: Fighting the EgoMy current framework: Balancing Deen and Duniya#DilKiBaat #MuzamilHasan #SpiritualJourney #ReligionAndScience #ThoughtBehindThings
Wed, 29 Apr 2026 - 46min - 554 - Global Crisis is Coming | Here's My Real Preparation Plan
We are entering an era of massive global realignment. Between geopolitical conflicts, sovereign debt crises, and the AI bubble, the next four to five years are going to be incredibly turbulent. Here is why I am stepping back from the "hustle culture" and changing how I live my life.In this episode of Dil Ki Baat, we dive deep into the uncomfortable reality of the changing global order. Social media often sells a "get rich quick" fantasy, but the macroeconomic indicators—from the Japanese Yen carry trade to US-China tensions—tell a very different story.I discuss why I no longer have the appetite for massive risks, why the global economy is facing a severe reality check, and why now is the time to look inwards, protect your peace, and invest in your family and relationships rather than vanity metrics.
Mon, 27 Apr 2026 - 41min - 553 - De-Dollarization Just Hit Pakistan's Economy
Why is the very institution (FATF) that threatened to blacklist Pakistan over crypto and money laundering now pushing for the rapid regulation of stablecoins and virtual assets?In this episode of Dil Ki Baat, we connect the dots between local Pakistani news and massive global macroeconomic shifts. We explore how the US sovereign debt crisis and the trend of "de-dollarization" (driven by China and BRICS) have forced Western financial capital to create artificial demand for the US Dollar through stablecoins like USDC and USDT.We also break down the reality of Pakistan's $30 Billion Hawala/Hundi market, the vested interests of the local elite in Middle Eastern real estate, and why the global financial reset means capital controls in Pakistan are inevitably coming to an end. This isn't a conspiracy theory—it's the reality of how global finance dictates local policy.Timestamps:Introduction: Why is Pakistan suddenly legalizing Crypto?The reality of Pakistan's $30 Billion Hawala/Hundi MarketWhy the local elite rely on UAE infrastructureThe Global Shift: Why FATF flipped its stance on Virtual AssetsThe US Sovereign Debt Crisis & De-Dollarization explained"The Genius Act": How Stablecoins (USDC/USDT) fund US Treasury BondsWhy Western Capital wants to buy Pakistani Assets at a discountReal World Asset Tokenization (PIVARA) vs. Industrial CapitalismThe end of Capital Controls & the clash with the old Elite systemConclusion: How to prepare for the financialization of PakistanTBT’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil TBT’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings TBT Clips: https://youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips Muzamil's Instagram: https://instagram.com/muzamilhasan Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Fri, 24 Apr 2026 - 27min - 552 - 514 | We Finally Built “PayPal” for Pakistan | Moiz Jangda | TBT
Checkout PocketMoney: https://www.pocketmoney.globalThe financial reset is happening, and the way we move money is changing forever. For years, Pakistani freelancers, remote workers, and businesses have struggled with capital controls, blocked accounts on Payoneer, and the nightmare of spending USD on basic global services like Facebook ads or software subscriptions.In this episode of Thought Behind Things, I sit down with Moiz Jangda, Founder and CEO of Pocket Money. We discuss how they are building the rails for a "PayPal-like" experience for Pakistan, allowing users to legally hold US-domiciled dollar accounts, spend globally with a Visa debit card without extreme FX markups, and bypass the legacy friction of international remittance.We also dive into the macroeconomic impact of capital controls, the reality of the hawala market, integrating stablecoins (USDC/USDT) into the background of consumer finance, and how the State Bank of Pakistan is viewing the digitization of the economy.TBT’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil TBT’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings TBT Clips: https://youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips Muzamil's Instagram: https://instagram.com/muzamilhasan Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Thu, 23 Apr 2026 - 54min - 551 - 513 | Current Oil Prices Are Fake! Severe Economic Recession Is Coming | TBT
The numbers on the screen are lying to you. While global news shows oil hovering around $80, the physical reality is painting a terrifying picture for import-dependent economies.In episode 511 of Thought Behind Things, I sit down with Global Energy Market Analyst Osama Rizvi to decode the massive disconnect between paper and physical energy markets. We uncover why Pakistan is actually paying a $35+ premium on fuel and how the unpublicized closure of the Strait of Hormuz is quietly strangling global trade.This isn't just about fuel: it's about survival. From mysterious refinery fires worldwide to a staggering 500-million-barrel global supply deficit , we explore the "long durée" of this economic crisis and why it is setting the stage for a severe food security disaster driven by skyrocketing urea prices.In this episode, we cover:• The Paper vs. Physical Market Gap: Why the screen price is $80 but the actual dated Brent spot price has hit $145-$150.• The Silent Supply Shock: Unreported disruptions and fires hitting major energy sites in Russia, India, and the US.• Pakistan’s Fertilizer Timebomb: How Urea prices jumping from $377 to $691 will crush local food security.• The Geopolitical Chessboard: Pakistan’s role as a neutral negotiator and why the US has a narrative incentive to keep paper oil prices artificially low .• The Way Out: Why rapid EV adoption and emerging Sodium-Ion battery technology might be our only long-term survival strategy against perpetual energy shocks.Let me know your thoughts in the comments - how do you see this global shift impacting our daily lives?
Wed, 22 Apr 2026 - 52min - 550 - My Stance on Pakistan, Imran Khan & The Global Reset
I took a break to relocate to the US and build a one-person AI-led business. Today, it's just you and me. Let's talk about the hard transition, local LLMs, and why my views on Pakistan's politics (and Imran Khan) have evolved.Welcome back to a special one-on-one episode. Over the past year, I’ve been navigating a massive transition—moving from Dubai to the US, setting up a new home base in Atlanta, and completely immersing myself in the world of Artificial Intelligence.In this video, I address why I disappeared, the reality of evolving your opinions when presented with new data, and the behind-the-scenes struggles of relocating a family. I also break down my blueprint for building a $1M AI business using local LLMs and tools like OpenClaw, and why I’m stepping away from the toxic polarization of Pakistani politics while acknowledging the realities of our foreign policy."Dil Ki Baat" is officially back. Shorter, data-backed, and purpose-driven.🔗 Follow my AI Business Building Journey on Instagram: https://instagram.com/muzamilhasan🎙️ Listen to the Thought Behind Things Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0PnNhyIDDe3klZkkIqwNQR
Thu, 16 Apr 2026 - 22min - 549 - 512 | ISLAMIC FINANCE: Why Your Money is Fake & The Coming Debt Crash | TBT
DOWNLOAD THE BOOK FOR FREE: https://prize.org.pk/Welcome back to another episode of Thought Behind Things!While the world is distracted by AI revolutions and geopolitical wars, a massive 100-year monetary reset is quietly unfolding globally. Today, we sit down with Kaanit Khalilullah, author of Breaking the Trap, to critically dismantle the modern banking system and understand why the global debt machine is reaching its breaking point.We go far beyond basic definitions of interest (Riba) and dive deep into the actual mechanics of how banks create money out of thin air, why sovereign debt is crushing developing economies, and what a radical transition away from fractional reserve banking actually looks like.In this highly critical discussion, we cover:The Ray Dalio Warning: Why the global debt cycle has reached a point of no return and what the upcoming monetary reset means for your savings.The Illusion of Money: How commercial banks create 95% of the money in the system, and why the cash in your checking account is essentially an illusion.The Pain of Transition: I push back hard on the realities of shifting to a "100% Full Reserve" system. What happens to businesses when multi-million rupee credit lines vanish overnight?The Shadow Economy: Learning from China and Turkey—why drying up bank liquidity often leads to unregulated loan sharks and short-term economic pain.Stablecoins & The GENESIS Act: Is the US already initiating a monetary reset by enforcing full reserves on digital currencies?Let us know in the comments below: Do you think a 100% reserve banking system is practically implementable in a country of 250 million people, or is the pain of transition too high? Read Kaanit's book and bring your toughest critiques for Round 2!
Wed, 15 Apr 2026 - 1h 29min - 548 - 511 | Why World War 3 is Inevitable (And China is Weaker Than It Looks) | TBT
Welcome back to another episode of Thought Behind Things!Today, we sit down with Farooq Tirmizi, the former Managing Editor for Profit Magazine and one of the most astute, data-driven financial analysts covering the Pakistani market. While the headlines focus on doom and gloom, Farooq breaks down why the private sector has quietly initiated a massive structural transformation, building what he calls "The Bull Case for Pakistan."In this highly critical and nuanced episode, we decode the paradoxes of the current economy and the terrifying global shifts on the horizon.We cover:The "Energy Abundance" Paradox: Why Pakistan actually generates too much electricity, how the solar revolution is fundamentally changing the grid, and why heavy industry is finally becoming viable.The Death of the Cash Economy: Analyzing the explosive data showing mobile banking transactions officially surpassing ATM cash withdrawals—and what this means for the end of the undocumented, rent-seeking elite.The Bottom-Up Industrial Shift: Why legacy family businesses are hesitating to deploy capital, while aggressive new players are scaling from basic assembly to heavy manufacturing (like copper and aluminum).The Looming US-China War: Farooq's chilling warning about why a global conflict is closer than we think, how a blockade of the Strait of Malacca could choke global supply chains, and what it means for Chinese investments in Pakistan.Regional Connectivity vs. Regional Spoilers: We analyze the recent Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline developments, the illusion of Central Asian trade corridors, and the very real threat of a renewed India-Pakistan conflict driven by internal political pressures.Let us know in the comments below: Do you buy the "Bull Case" for Pakistan's digital and energy future? Or do the geopolitical threats outweigh the domestic progress?
Tue, 14 Apr 2026 - 1h 19min - 547 - 510 | How Pakistan Stopped WW3: The Islamabad Accord, 'Middle Power' Status | Ali Khizar | TBT
Welcome back to another episode of Thought Behind Things! After doing the last five episodes in English, we are bringing things back to our usual style of Urdu based on our local audience's feedback. Today, we sit down with one of Pakistan’s top economic minds and journalists, Ali Khizar, to decode the massive geopolitical shifts happening right now. With global analysts warning that the world is on the verge of World War III, all eyes are currently on the peace talks and the "Islamabad Accord" taking place in Pakistan. In this episode, we cover:The Global Stage: How Pakistan took on a mature, middle-party role to broker negotiations between the US and Iran, stepping up when the world needed stability. The "Middle Power" Era: We discuss the emergence of Pakistan as a "Middle Power" and how a strong military posture has allowed the country to project influence in a changing global order. Regional Economic Integration: If sanctions on Iran are lifted, what does it mean for Pakistan's energy crisis, trade corridors, and stability in Balochistan? The End of the Rent-Seeking Elite? A critical look at Pakistan's elite who historically parked their wealth in the UAE, and why the shifting geopolitical alliances might close those doors forever. The Threat of Spoilers: We analyze the worst-case scenarios, including what happens if the ceasefire fails, the impact on global oil prices, and how external players might try to spoil the peace. Internal Cohesion: Why Pakistan must solve its internal political friction and move past traditional political dynasties to truly capitalize on this global win. Let us know in the comments below: What are your expectations for the Islamabad Accord? Do you think Pakistan can leverage this diplomatic victory for long-term economic growth?
Fri, 10 Apr 2026 - 1h 07min - 546 - 509 | The New World Order: Pakistan's Rise as a "Middle Power" | Faisal Aftab | TBT
In this highly anticipated episode, Faisal Aftab returns to the show to break down the rapidly shifting geopolitical and geo-economic landscape. We explore the massive global transition happening between the old military-industrial complex and the rising financial-technology complex. Faisal explains the concept of a new "middle power" emerging between the major empires, potentially aligning countries like Pakistan, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia into a powerful new bloc.
We also dive deep into Pakistan's economic future. We discuss how the aggressive push for digital payments and cashless systems will eventually force the undocumented "black economy" into the tax net, potentially unlocking massive GDP growth similar to India's trajectory post-demonetization. Finally, we explore the critical concept of AI sovereignty and discuss "Sky 47," a state-of-the-art sovereign cloud data center being built right here in Pakistan.
Thu, 09 Apr 2026 - 1h 38min - 545 - 508 | The Islamabad Accord: What the US-Iran Peace Means for Pakistan's Economy | Yusuf M Farooq | TBT
In this episode, we unpack the unprecedented macroeconomic and geopolitical shift following Pakistan’s successful brokering of a ceasefire between the US and Iran. With global markets reacting instantly—Bitcoin surging, US stock futures climbing, and crude oil crashing below $100—Yusuf M. Farooq breaks down exactly what this means for the Pakistani economy and local investors.
We analyze the immediate market relief and discuss whether this signals a permanent shift or a temporary pause in regional instability. The conversation transitions into a critical look at Pakistan's deeper structural issues: the severe lack of infrastructure development in Karachi versus the North, the urgent need for agricultural deregulation, and the misallocation of capital in the power sector. Finally, we explore the silver lining of the recent 5G spectrum auction and how improved internet infrastructure is uniquely positioning Pakistan for an IT and BPO export boom.
Wed, 08 Apr 2026 - 53min - 544 - 507 | The $200 Oil Shock: Is Pakistan's Economy Facing Armageddon? | Abdul Rehman Najam | TBT
In this episode, we break down the severe economic implications of the global oil shock and what it means for Pakistan's immediate future. Abdul Rehman Najam joins the show to provide a critical analysis of current macroeconomic indicators, comparing today's crisis to historical events like the 1990 Gulf War. We analyze whether the worst of the demand destruction is already priced into the market, the reality of a potential currency devaluation if foreign reserves drop below $10 billion, and the specific impacts on industries reliant on diesel and local refining. Finally, we cut through the noise to deliver actionable insights on how to navigate the Pakistan Stock Exchange (PSX) during periods of extreme volatility.
Tue, 07 Apr 2026 - 1h 07min - 543 - 506 | Dollar to 350? The $4.8B Debt Trap & Pakistan’s Economic Reset | Laeeq Ahmed | TBT
Pakistan is officially repaying its $3.5 billion debt to the UAE while the dollar begins its violent search for parity at 350 PKR. We are standing at a critical juncture: an oil shock, a forex shock, and a regional war are colliding simultaneously. Is this a short-term knee-jerk reaction, or are the systemic foundations of our economy finally resetting?In this episode, Laeeq (Founder & CEO of Sarmaaya) joins me to break down the "bust-flatline-bust" reality of the Pakistani markets. We discuss why the stock market plummeted from 190,000 to 150,000 points, the inevitability of a 22.5% dollar devaluation, and why the government’s removal of subsidies is actually a signal of a strengthening state. We also explore the massive transition into Solar and EVs (BYD vs. Tesla), the local lithium-ion battery revolution, and why Pakistan must pivot from a consumption-led economy to an export-led engine to survive the next five years.
Mon, 06 Apr 2026 - 51min - 542 - 505 | Is World War 3 Already Here? Iran, Israel, and the End of the UN | Yasir Abbas | TBT
Fuel prices in Pakistan have hit a historic high of 400 rupees. While the public is rightfully outraged, the brutal reality is that the state has no buffers, no reserves, and no choice. But this is just the tip of the iceberg. As supply chains for plastics, aluminum, and helium go offline globally, we are entering Phase 1 of a massive economic shift that will redefine the next six months. Are you prepared for what comes next?In this episode, we sit down with Yasir Abbas, a PhD researcher at the University of Manchester and former advisor on Law and Public Policy. We go deep into the multifaceted nature of the Iran-Israel conflict, exploring whether we are truly on the brink of World War III or if we are witnessing a new era of "unilateralism" where international institutions like the UN have been ruptured beyond repair.
Fri, 03 Apr 2026 - 53min - 541 - 504 | America is Fading, Europe is a "Theme Park": The Multipolar Reality | TBT
Welcome back to Thought Behind Things. The global supply chain is experiencing a synchronized heart attack. With the Middle East conflict threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz, 20% of global oil and 50% of the world's urea are effectively offline. For decades, our survival strategy has been neutrality—but neutrality is a luxury you can only afford in a unipolar world, and that world is dead. It is only a matter of time before emerging markets are forced to choose a side.In this episode, Javed Hasan (Former Chairman of the Economic Advisory Group) dismantles the structural hubris of the state. We discuss the myth of the "China Model," why the exact same 10 conglomerates have controlled the local economy for 40 years, and how the West is rapidly turning into a "Disneyland" tourist center while China builds the AI-driven industrial factories of the future. Finally, we break down the grim reality of the "Bust-Flatline-Bust" cycle, and why recent pushes to deregulate real estate might just be the elite searching for exit liquidity before the crash.
Thu, 02 Apr 2026 - 1h 01min - 540 - 503 | The AI Arms Race: Is Pakistan Building a Tech Engine or a Digital Sweatshop? | TBT
Welcome back to the next era of Thought Behind Things. The world is fracturing into a multipolar reality, a global financial reset is looming, and AI is triggering the most violent capital reallocation in human history. The era of the zero-interest-rate tech boom is dead; the AI efficiency purge is here. If we don’t understand the mechanics of these changes, we will be structurally locked out of the new global economy.In this episode, Dr. Naveed Iftikhar (Co-founder of atomcamp and former Governance Specialist at the Ministry of Finance) breaks down the brutal realities of building an AI-first workforce in an emerging market. We discuss the paradox of mandating AI training for civil servants when the state struggles with basic infrastructure, the mathematics of a sovereign default, and the harsh truth about who actually wins and loses in the next 5 years of tech automation.
Thu, 02 Apr 2026 - 1h 13min - 539 - 502 | AI is Dumbing Us Down? The Real Fix for Pakistan’s Education Crisis | TBT Podcast
The global landscape is shifting rapidly with the rise of AI, yet Pakistan’s education system remains stuck in rote memorization. How do we prepare our youth for a post-AI world?In this episode, we sit down with Kamil Majeed, CEO and Principal of Nordic International School, to unpack the flaws in our educational framework. We discuss his experiences transitioning from LUMS to UCL, the stark differences between the UK and Pakistani academic approaches, and why values, critical thinking, and work ethic are the only things that will separate extraordinary talent from the rest in the future. We also tackle the growing concern of AI making us intellectually lazy and how the private sector can step up to solve the massive education deficit.
Wed, 01 Apr 2026 - 56min - 538 - 501 | Education is Broken in Pakistan, Here's What's Coming Next | Dr Habib Bokhari | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we dive deep into the rapidly changing landscape of education and technology in Pakistan. Joined by Dr. Habib Bukhari, former Vice Chancellor of Kohsar University, we explore the impact of AI on the service industry, the importance of "STEM" education, and why the traditional "degree-only" approach is no longer enough for the global market.Whether you’re a freelancer worried about AI disruption or a tech enthusiast looking for the next big thing in robotics and bio-economy, this conversation provides a roadmap for the next 25 years.
Wed, 01 Apr 2026 - 1h 02min - 537 - Daraz: Pakistan’s BIGGEST Ecommerce Marketplace Ft. Managing Director Daraz | 501 | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit with Ehsan Saya, Managing Director of Daraz, the leader behind Pakistan’s largest e-commerce platform and one of the most complex logistics and technology operations in the region.
From a childhood shaped by constant relocation to becoming Managing Director at a very young age, Ehsan shares what it takes to build trust at national scale, empower small sellers, and operate an ecosystem with over 100,000 active sellers and millions of daily users. He opens up about leadership, credibility, automation, and how Daraz quietly built South Asia’s most advanced fulfillment infrastructure.
What We Discuss:
Becoming Managing Director at a young age and earning credibility in leadershipHow Daraz scaled to millions of daily users and 100,000+ sellersEnabling local manufacturing instead of importsBuilding Amazon-level fulfillment, warehousing, and automation in PakistanCommunity-driven growth, 11.11 sales, and future Daraz OriginalsA long-term view of Pakistan’s economy and e-commerce in 2050Socials:
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Thu, 01 Jan 1970 - 1h 48min - 536 - 500 | Beyond the Recipe: Mental Health, Identity & Building a Food Community Ft. Danial | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit with Muhammad Danial, the creator who unintentionally turned simple kitchen experiments into one of Pakistan’s most engaging food communities. From growing up as a quiet kid dealing with OCD, to finding confidence through a camera, to balancing the pressure of online fame with the weight of personal identity, Danial shares the untold story behind his rise.
What We Discuss:
Danial’s journey into content and the life experiences that shaped himHow mental health and identity influenced his creative pathBuilding a loyal food community and navigating sudden visibilityBalancing family expectations, education, and career choicesHis evolving relationship with food, business, and long-term purposeThe mindset guiding his growth, spirituality, and future visionA candid, inside look at how a young creator is navigating identity, mental health, and sudden digital success, and a long-term path in Pakistan today.
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Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Fri, 12 Dec 2025 - 1h 19min - 535 - 499 | Inside Daari Mooch: From Beard Oil to a $3M Brand in Pakistan Ft. Ibrahim Shaukat | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit with Ibrahim Shaukat, the founder, who turned Daari Mooch from a small beard-oil experiment into one of Pakistan’s most recognized grooming brands.
From building products in a market that didn’t exist, to opening their own salon, to navigating Pakistan’s unpredictable retail landscape, Ibrahim breaks down the real story behind Daari Mooch’s rise.
What We Discuss:
How Daari Mooch began and what clicked with customersPakistan’s shift from old-school barbers to modern salonsWhy salons rarely grow beyond one branchDaari Mooch’s approach to online vs offline expansionThe opportunity in Tier-2 marketsIbrahim’s long-term take on Pakistan’s directionA grounded, inside look at how a local brand can grow in Pakistan, and what it actually takes to survive, adapt, and scale here.
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Thu, 11 Dec 2025 - 1h 39min - 534 - 498 | Studying Abroad Is The BEST Investment For Your Kids? Ft. Obaid Arshad | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we speak with Obaid Arshad, Founder & CEO of Gingko Retail, Pakistan’s biggest ecommerce operating platform and the largest order aggregator in the country.
We Explore:
Less than 1% of Pakistan’s commerce has moved onlineHow Gingko Retail became Pakistan’s largest ecommerce enabler214+ merchants using the platformIPO plans for the futureWhy Pakistanis needs global exposureAnd why Pakistan might become unliveable in 25 years due to climate riskThis episode is a deep-dive into Pakistan’s ecommerce backbone, the systems behind scaling retail digitally, and what the future of this industry looks like.
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Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Wed, 10 Dec 2025 - 1h 51min - 533 - 497 | The West Sold Us a Lie — Pakistan Is the Real Opportunity | Ft. Asfandyar Waraich | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with a rapidly growing digital creator to unpack his journey from childhood struggles and losing his father at a young age to building a full-time career in online content creation
From early exposure abroad to returning home, he explains why social media gave him more earning power than settling for a corporate job — and why algorithm understanding matters more than talent or luck.
In This Episode:
Moving abroad and choosing not to settleLosing a parent in teenage years & emotional resilienceWhy returning home created better income upsideThe psychology behind going viral and platform discoveryUnderstanding algorithms, niches, and customer attentionTV celebrity fame vs social media creator fameWhy creators become stagnant & how to stay relevantThe late-night show gap and the future of entertainmentAnd how content, celebrity, and platforms evolve over the next 25 yearThis episode is a first-hand look into a creator’s business model, understanding virality, creator economics, and how the entertainment industry is being reshaped by short-form platforms forever.
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Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
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Publisher: Talha Shaikh
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Tue, 09 Dec 2025 - 1h 52min - 532 - 496 | A Marketplace To BUY & SELL Softwares!! Ft. Shane & Adnan | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Shane and Adnan, founders of Software Finder — a global marketplace for buying and selling software, like an OLX for software buyers.
With 350+ employees across 4 countries and more than 250,000 targeted monthly visitors, Software Finder has quietly become one of Pakistan’s most successful B2B platforms without hype, foreign celebrity founders, or Silicon Valley experience.
In This Episode:
The story of building Software FinderWhy couples building startups must sacrifice comfortDecline of SEO traffic and the rise of AI searchScaling 350+ employees and 250 digital marketersThe future of software marketplaces & enterprise SaaS buyingAnd what Pakistan needs to succeed in a post-AI worldThis episode is a first-hand look into Pakistan’s fastest-growing SaaS marketplace, its digital marketing engine, and how AI is reshaping search, discovery, and software buying forever.
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Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
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Mon, 08 Dec 2025 - 1h 53min - 531 - 495 | Pakistan’s BIGGEST Startup Success Story: vyro.ai Ft. Ahmed Abubakar | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Ahmed Abubakar, Founder of Imagine Art - a Pakistan-built GenAI creative suite used by millions worldwide and competing for #1–#2 positions in global design app charts, right next to Canva. Today, Imagine does $30M+ ARR, with a major portion of revenue coming from the US and international markets - proving that world-class AI products can be built from Pakistan.
We Explore:
Early life, education, and family sacrificesBuilding Imagine and scaling GenAI to millionsWhy Pakistani app & gaming industry is bigger than India’sMonetization, profitability & $30M ARRESOPs, stock options & talent philosophyFuture of AI models, creativity, disruption & user context mappingMoving to the US, global talent, and Pakistan’s role in 2050Socials:
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Fri, 05 Dec 2025 - 2h 26min - 530 - 494 | Delivery Riders Are Barely Surviving!! Ft.Umer Munawar | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Umer Munawar, Co-Founder of SmartLane, one of Pakistan’s fastest-growing logistics aggregation platforms.
Umer shares how he exited Finja and jumped straight into solving Pakistan’s most chaotic industry - e-commerce logistics. From integrating 31 courier companies, to processing thousands of parcels, to raising $2.3 million, this episode breaks down what really happens behind the scenes in Pakistan’s delivery ecosystem.
We discuss:
Why e-commerce is the easiest business todayWhy logistics is brutally hard with razor-thin marginsHow SmartLane aggregates every major courierWhy delivery riders earn so littleWhy Pakistan’s logistic pricing is totally unrealisticThe future of debt funding, blockchain, & capital accessAnd what Pakistan could look like by 2050A deep-dive into e-commerce, logistics, fintech, and the future of business in Pakistan.
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Thu, 04 Dec 2025 - 1h 56min - 529 - 493 | AI Race Starts At ZERO For BOTH Pakistan & India!! Ft. Nayab Babar | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Nayab Babar, Chief Investment Officer at the Pakistan Startup Fund, the man shaping how capital flows into Pakistan’s next generation of startups.
Nayab shares how Warcraft strategy games trained his problem-solving mindset, how his perspective on racism changed, and why he believes exposure not arguments fixes prejudice.
Nayab also explains why:
Pakistan & India have the same starting line in AIYou won’t be replaced by AI, but by people USING AIWestern media’s “free speech” narrative is deeply hypocriticalNICs are broken and need complete rebuildingBrain drain isn’t always a bad thingThis is one of the most honest conversations on Pakistan’s tech reality, global competition, and the mindset shift needed for the next decade.
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Nayab's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayab-babar-cfa/
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Wed, 03 Dec 2025 - 2h 15min - 528 - 492 | We Manage 800 Employees Selling JUST Donuts!! Ft. Rayyan Sohail | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Rayyan, the entrepreneur behind one of Pakistan’s fastest-growing food brands - OD.
From a disciplined childhood in madrassah to running his father’s company at a young age, Rayyan’s journey is a mix of family pressure, resilience, and a deep desire to build something of his own. He shares how he transformed a family business, shifted from textiles to food, burned through cash in restaurants, sold his company, and then partnered with the same buyers to build OD into a national franchise.
We explore:
Growing up as the first-born Cash flow, failures & the reality of the restaurant businessScaling OD, acquiring it back & running a franchise-only modelLocation strategy, operations, and how to build a food business that lastsThe future of Pakistani brands and Pakistan in 2050A deep dive into business, leadership, family pressure, and the journey of building modern Pakistani brands.
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TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Rayyan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rayyansohail/
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Mon, 01 Dec 2025 - 2h 00min - 527 - 491 | Salesflo Founder: AI Will DESTROY Pakistan’s Freelancing Boom!! | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Yasir Suleman Memon, Founder & CEO of Salesflo, one of Pakistan’s biggest enterprise SaaS companies, now used globally across multiple markets.
We explore:
Why second-tier Pakistani cities never developedHow AI is reversing Pakistan’s freelancing boomWhy Pakistani founders lack “IPO hunger”Why startups MUST list publicly to retain talentWhy government will NOT fix anything and private enterprise mustSocials:
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TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Yasir's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yasirsmemon/
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Fri, 28 Nov 2025 - 2h 13min - 525 - 488 | How Much Money Is REALLY in Sports in Pakistan? | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by the founder of Game Sports Management, one of Pakistan’s few companies trying to turn athletes into real commercial brands.
From managing Wasim Akram to building a full sports business, he shares the why Pakistan’s athletes never grow, why our sports ecosystem is broken, and how countries like India turned every sport into a billion-dollar industry while Pakistan stayed stuck.
We explore:
Why the 2008 crash pushed him into sportsHow working with Wasim Akram changed everythingWhy Pakistan has no real system for athlete brandingWhy Indian stars become global icons but Pakistan’s don’tHow Pakistan’s sports industry can explode by 2050A conversation on the future of sports, talent management, personal brand, and the business behind athletes.
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TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Arsalan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arsalanhydershah/
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Mon, 24 Nov 2025 - 1h 48min - 524 - 485 | ALETHIA AI Founder: We Made Muzamil’s AI Avatar & Asked WHO HE’D VOTE FOR!! | TBT
CHECK OUT MY AI AVATAR: https://muzamil.alethia.ai/
In this episode, we sit down with Arif Khan, Founder & CEO of ALETHIA AI, the global startup building real-time interactive AI agents, with a major part of the technology being developed in Pakistan.
We Explore:
Creating AI versions of real peopleHow Muzamil’s own AI avatar was trainedUsing AI for education, government services, counselling, and digital accessWhat the post-AI world will look likeAnd why energy scarcity might become the biggest challenge of the AI boomA deep, honest, and mind-bending conversation about AI, identity, misuse, and the future of knowledge.
Socials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Arif's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikhan/
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Wed, 19 Nov 2025 - 1h 56min - 523 - 484 | Ziyad Parekh: RAAST Will Change Every Online Payment in Pakistan!! | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Ziyad Parekh, Co-Founder & CEO of Safepay, one of Pakistan’s most exciting fintech startups and a Y-Combinator backed startup.
Ziyad shares how he went from Karachi to New York and why he left everything to return home and build Pakistan’s version of Stripe. We uncover how Safepay survived being taken to zero overnight, how they rebuilt with grit, and why they now process volumes comparable to giants like HBL.
We Explore:
VISA/Mastercard charging Rs. 30 per transactionGetting Investment From StripeKarachi's Poor infrastructure How RAAST might change everythingAnd what the future of digital payments will look likeSocials:
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TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Ziyad's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ziyad-parekh/
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Mon, 17 Nov 2025 - 2h 20min - 522 - 483| Khazanay Founder: I Met Sam Altman & He Loved Our Startup | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Usman Saleem, Co-Founder & CEO of Khazanay, Pakistan’s biggest used sneaker and thrift brand.
Usman shares his journey from losing his father at an early age, working graphic design jobs for just ₨8,000 a month, to building one of Pakistan’s most disruptive retail startups.
We talk about:
How Khazanay sold its first pair of shoesMeeting Sam Altman at Y CombinatorHow they refurbish branded sneakersTapping into leftover clothing Khazanay’s scale & GrowthLong-term growth, Islamic finance, and Pakistan’s 2050 outlookSocials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Usman's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mhdusmansaleem/
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Thu, 13 Nov 2025 - 1h 28min - 521 - 482 | Manto Founder: Pakistan’s Fashion Brands Don’t Make MONEY!! | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Salman Parekh, Founder of Manto, Pakistan’s most distinct fashion brand redefining local identity through design, storytelling, and craftsmanship. From launching limited hand-drawn collections to sustaining a premium yet local brand in a low-growth economy.
We explore:
How Manto built its own supply chain & scaled sustainablyWhy Pakistani fashion is stuck in a cash cycleThe real cost of building exclusivity & identityWhy Manto avoids mass production to stay premiumWhat the fashion scene could look like by 2050Socials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Salman's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maansals/
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Mon, 10 Nov 2025 - 2h 09min - 520 - 481 | Maha Shahzad: We’re Doing 6.5 MILLION Dollars Revenue ANNUALLY!! | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Maha Shahzad, the founder & CEO of Buscaro — Pakistan’s first tech-enabled bus-sharing startup that’s making everyday commuting safer, smarter, and more affordable for thousands of Pakistanis.
From doing odd jobs to fund her education, to building a profitable transport startup without a degree, Maha’s story is pure resilience. She shares how her experiences at Careem, Foodpanda, and SWVL shaped her understanding of Pakistan’s mobility problems — and how a confusing global model inspired her to build something truly local.
We Explore:
How SWVL’s confusing model failed to connect with Pakistani commutersThe story behind Buscaro and how it was born during the downturnHow she raised her first investor cheque and built a profitable startupBuscaro’s 6.5 million-dollars annual revenue and 70-member teamHow the platform ensures safety for women & school childrenMaha also opens up about investor trust after 2022, navigating bias as a young female founder, and her long-term vision for Pakistan’s urban mobility.
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TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Maha's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maha-shahzad-88878b220/
Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Mon, 03 Nov 2025 - 1h 38min - 519 - 480 | Jerjees Seja: Ary launching ZAP to DESTROY Netflix! | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Jerjees Seja, CEO of ARY Digital Network, one of Pakistan’s most iconic media leaders. From shaping the country’s TV and drama landscape to building ARY into a powerhouse of entertainment, Jerjees shares his journey of transforming Pakistan’s media industry.
We discuss:
How Pakistan’s private TV revolution beganThe economics behind news, dramas, and entertainment ProductionWhy premium Pakistani content is now free on YouTubeWhy global giants like Netflix don’t invest in PakistanThe future of OTT and local streaming platformsWhy filmmaking still isn’t profitable hereThe evolving audience behavior and the road to 2050Socials:
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TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Jerjees's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerjeesseja/
Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Fri, 31 Oct 2025 - 1h 58min - 518 - 478 | 40 Branches in 7 Cities But Do Pakistanis Take Loans Seriously? Ft. Arif Lakhani | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Arif Lakhani, Co-Founder of QistBazaar, Pakistan’s fastest-growing fintech platform making anything, from bikes to fridges, available on easy installments.
We explore:
How QistBazaar gives access to credit without traditional bankingWhy 90% of startup funding never enters Pakistan’s economyAre easy installments driving consumerism and debt?The rise of Pakistan’s emerging middle class and fintech revolutionIPO dreams, PSX’s broken perception, and what real innovation looks likeSocials:
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TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Arif's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariflakhani
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Wed, 29 Oct 2025 - 1h 45min - 515 - 475 | Myco Founder: SPORTSMEN BLAME FANS For Not Watching Sports! | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.org
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Umair Masoom Usmani, the Founder of Myco, a rapidly growing OTT and creator-monetization platform redefining how people consume, fund, and earn from content across emerging markets.
After leaving Dubai’s corporate comfort, Umair built one of Pakistan’s fastest-scaling digital ventures with 30M+ registered users, exclusive Premier League streaming rights, and operations across Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Egypt.
We explore:
Why Umair left “too-good-to-be-true” job in Dubai to start MycoHow the global media system is broken and what Myco is fixingThe $25 million raised in equity & debt fundingWhy creators don’t make money and how Myco plans to change thatThe future of sports, digital content, and monetization in PakistanSocials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Umair's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/umair-masoom-usmani-b12ab025/
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Fri, 24 Oct 2025 - 1h 59min - 514 - 474 | Scents N Stories CEO: We Have 40+ OUTLETS Across PAKISTAN! | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.org
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Saad Afridi, the Founder & CEO of Scents N Stories, Pakistan’s leading fragrance brand with over 40 outlets, 300+ employees, and one of the top 5 players in the country’s perfume market.
From starting with men’s grooming products to building a nationwide perfume empire, Saad shares the story of how Scents N Stories grew from a small e-commerce experiment into Pakistan’s most recognizable fragrance brand.
We explore:
Moving from beard grooming to online perfume salesBuilding 40+ outlets across Pakistan using e-commerce dataWhy Pakistan’s perfume market is more advanced than Indonesia & BangladeshLocal manufacturing vs import, and how they keep costs lowWhy luxury perfumes cost 30x more than theirsSocials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Saad's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/msaadafridi/
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Wed, 22 Oct 2025 - 2h 06min - 513 - 473 | Saad Riaz: How Kickstart Became Pakistan’s LARGEST Coworking Space | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.org
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Saad Riaz, Co-Founder of Kickstart Pakistan, the country’s one of the largest coworking network powering thousands of professionals and businesses every day.
Saad opens up about how Kickstart survived Pakistan’s toughest economic years, scaled sustainably, and redefined what “workspace” really means.
We explore:
How Kickstart's coworking model actually makes moneyWhy Kickstart doesn’t prefer to work with unstable startupsRenting vs Coworking — Which gives better yields for landlords?Why employee retention is about value, not just salaryWhy experience design is everything for the next generationSocials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Saad's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saad-riaz-/
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Mon, 20 Oct 2025 - 1h 35min - 512 - 467 | Dipitt Founder: We Export To 33 COUNTRIES From Pakistan!! | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.org
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Syed Zeeshan Haider, the Founder and Director of Dipitt, Pakistan’s No.1 sauce brand exporting to over 33 countries worldwide.
A LUMS graduate and engineer by training, Zeeshan began his career managing top tobacco brands before making a life-changing decision, leaving the industry to build something that aligned with his values. What started as a local food experiment is now a globally recognized Pakistani FMCG brand known for its elegant design and high quality.
We explore:
Zeeshan’s early career managing 3 tobacco brandsWhy he quit selling cigarettes for his daughterThe transition from restaurants to DipittDistribution, partnerships, and brand buildingScaling from local shelves to export marketsSocials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Zeeshan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/syed-zeeshan-haider-4b341916/
Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Sat, 18 Oct 2025 - 1h 38min - 510 - 465 | DAYYAN: Lost 10,000 INDIAN Followers In ONE Day!! | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Dayyan, a young, super-talented and rising stand-up comedian and content creator known for his sharp wit and humor.
From small open mics to sold-out shows, Dayyan shares his unfiltered journey through Pakistan’s evolving stand-up scene, the struggles, the experiments, and the state of comedy in a sensitive country like Pakistan.
We uncover:
His early comedy experiments at Laugh Out LoungeWhat it’s really like performing live in PakistanWhy Pakistani comedy isn’t growing as fast as it shouldThe cultural, creative, and commercial barriers comedians faceSocials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Dayyan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dayyan_ki_chussain/
Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Mon, 13 Oct 2025 - 1h 38min - 509 - 464 | KTrade Chairman: BlackRock Invests In Pakistan Via KTrade!! | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.org
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Ali Farid Khawaja, Chairman of KTrade Securities, Pakistan’s leading investment platform enabling thousands of Pakistanis to invest smartly and become part of the country’s growing capital markets.
With a global background in finance and technology, having worked at UBS, Berenberg, SafeCharge, and Autonomous Research, Ali shares how he’s bridging the gap between the Pakistani stock market and local investors.
We uncover:
How KTrade became Pakistan’s first large-scale retail investment platformWhy only 0.2% of Pakistanis invest in stocks todayWhy millions are trading crypto and forex instead of building real wealthHow KTrade hit $6 million in daily trading volume and continues to grow KTrade’s Saudi expansionThe potential for 30 million+ Pakistanis to become investorsWhy a bull run in Pakistan might already have begunSocials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Ali's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alifaridkhwaja/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Fri, 10 Oct 2025 - 1h 42min - 508 - 463 | Sannan Saleh: Leaving Paramount Studio For Pakistan… | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Sannan Saleh, a filmmaker, storyteller, and creative producer who’s worked with global giants like Comedy Central in Los Angeles before returning to Pakistan. Sannan shares an unfiltered look at the real state of Pakistan’s entertainment industry, its creative challenges, and the opportunities AI now brings.
We explore:
How his journey from Duke to LA shaped his creative mindsetWhat made him leave a stable career in the U.S. to return to PakistanWhy content distribution is easier than ever How Pakistani TV channels are afraid to take creative risksWhy boomer producers are out of touch with Gen Z audiencesWhy Pakistan doesn’t have a talent problem, it has a direction problemThe elitism in filmmaking and why cinema must be made for everyoneHow AI tools will slash production costs and change creativity foreverAn unapologetically honest conversation about filmmaking, creativity, and the evolving mindset of Pakistan’s new generation of storytellers.
Socials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Sannan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sannansaleh/
Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Wed, 08 Oct 2025 - 1h 38min - 507 - 462 | From Androon Lahore to the Limelight Ft. Sikandar & Moiz Nawaz | TBT
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Sikandar Nawaz and Moiz Nawaz - two multi-talented brothers who’ve carved their own creative paths in Pakistan’s evolving entertainment industry.
From Bhatti Gate to the big screen, the Nawaz brothers share an honest, heartfelt conversation about their journey - from madrassah life and acting struggles to music, content creation, and the pressures of public life.
We explore:
Sikandar’s childhood and madrassah experiences shaped his creative drive
Moiz’s transition from music to television
Why criticism from relatives can either break or build your confidence
The harsh truth about drama industry payments and structures
How they learned acting without formal training and found their breakthrough
Why ego and lack of collaboration hold back Pakistan’s creator economy
Their take on Pakistan in 2050 and what real success looks like
A deep, emotional, and often humorous dive into what it means to stay authentic in the face of fame, expectations, and constant change.
Socials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Sikandar's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sikandarnawazz
Moiz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moizzz_nawazzz
Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Mon, 06 Oct 2025 - 1h 47min - 506 - 461 | How To Export From Pakistan The World For Just 1$ Per Parcel Ft Arif Iqbal | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.org
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Arif Iqbal, the Co-Founder & CEO of LAAM, a fashion-tech startup transforming how South Asian brands scale globally through technology and logistics.
With a stellar background as an engineering leader at Facebook, Microsoft, Pinterest, and eBay, Arif shares how LAAM is building Pakistan’s Shopify-alternative helping thousands of local brands reach global audiences while solving the #1 reason most Pakistani ecommerce ventures fail: logistics.
We uncover:
Why LAAM is not a fashion company, but a tech & logistics companyHow LAAM enables 48-hour local delivery & 5-day global shippingWhy most Pakistani ecommerce startups fail — and how LAAM solves thatThe $5M+ raised and LAAM’s journey with Endeavor GlobalHow Octane, LAAM’s backend engine, is bypassing Shopify limitationsWith the ambition to become Pakistan’s next tech unicorn, Arif shares his long-term vision of turning LAAM into the Amazon of South Asia — and a homegrown global success story.
Socials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Arif's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arifiqbal/
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Fri, 03 Oct 2025 - 1h 25min - 505 - 460 | Abbas Bukhari: Comedy Can’t Be Learned - You’re BORN With It! | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor:https://pakistan.endeavor.org
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Abbas Raza Bukhari, a rising stand-up comedian, storyteller, and content creator of Pakistan’s digital comedy scene.From hating Instagram and never planning to create content to building a loyal audience through relatable, family-friendly humor, Abbas walks us through his journey of creative self-discovery, content burnout, and what comedy truly means.
We uncover:
Why Abbas believes abusive comedy doesn’t work in PakistanThe ego trap of social media content creationWhy comedians in Pakistan aren’t connectedHow his wife pushed him into content creationSocials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Abbas's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbassbukharii/
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at:Daftarkhwan: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Wed, 01 Oct 2025 - 1h 53min - 504 - 459 | WeWork Collapsed? Are Pakistani Coworking Spaces NEXT? Ft. CEO Colabs Omar Shah | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.org
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Omar Shah, the Co-Founder & CEO of COLABS, Pakistan’s leading coworking space platform with over $5M in funding.
From his early days at Abraaj Capital to building a workspace empire in Pakistan, Omar breaks down the real challenges of scaling startups, building brand credibility, and attracting global investment in Pakistan’s high-risk economy.
We uncover:
Why most Pakistani startups fail to scaleThe truth behind WeWork’s collapseColabs’ expansion into the Middle EastThe business mindset gap between India & PakistanAnd the harsh truth: "Pakistan was overselling coworking"Socials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Omar's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/osshah/
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Special thanks to COLABS for providing us with the studio space.
You can find out more about them at:COLABS: https://www.colabs.pk
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Mon, 29 Sep 2025 - 1h 37min - 503 - 458 | Breaking into Pakistan’s 6 Billion Dollar Apparel Market Ft. Muneeb Zafar | TBT
Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.org
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Muneeb Zafar, founder of Fitted, one of Pakistan’s fastest-growing men’s fashion brands. From starting without retail stores to building a strong D2C presence through quality fabrics and bold aesthetics, Muneeb shares how he built a sustainable business in a cash-burning fashion industry.
We dive into:
The origin story behind FittedHow to build a brand without big capitalSourcing quality fabric locally in PakistanChallenges of retail vs onlineCAC, marketing strategy, and automationIf you’ve ever dreamed of starting your own brand, or are curious about the reality of building a fashion startup in Pakistan — this episode is for you.
Socials:
TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/
TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil
TBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings
TBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips
Muzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/
Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/
Muneeb's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muneebzafar1
Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan
Credits:
Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar
Publisher: Talha Shaikh
Editor: Jawad Sajid
Fri, 26 Sep 2025 - 1h 53min
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