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Charity Therapy

Jess Birken, MNM, JD

What if you could hang out with experienced nonprofit professionals and ask them your burning questions about the day-to-day life of nonprofits? What if you could take their wisdom and bring it back to your organization, for free? That's what we do on Charity Therapy. Hosted by Jess Birken - owner and lawyer at Birken Law Office. Every episode is an in-depth look at how to run a nonprofit, from fundraising to IRS woes to people problems and more! Our goal is to empower nonprofits to achieve your mission by doing things right.

174 - 173: Let It Go! | What Happens to the Money When a Nonprofit Closes?
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  • 174 - 173: Let It Go! | What Happens to the Money When a Nonprofit Closes?

    When a nonprofit closes its doors, it opens up a bunch of questions. What happens to the mission? Are there other organizations or groups doing this work? And a big one – what do we do with everything that's left over?

    No individual gets to keep the money or assets leftover when a nonprofit dissolves. So what happens now, and how do you honor everything your organization stood for?

    Meghan and I tackle a bittersweet listener question from an executive director who chose to close a nonprofit with dignity rather than run it into the ground. Now they're sitting on a substantial amount of leftover funds, ready to play Fairy Godmother.

    Real Listener Question:

    "Our nonprofit is dissolving, and I want to be a good steward of the leftover funds. I worked with an attorney to dissolve properly and now I'm ready to give away a substantial amount. How do I choose who to give the money to? Do I give a big gift to a few orgs or smaller amounts to many? What would you do?"

    Meghan and I dig into what the law actually requires when a nonprofit dissolves, why this ED already knows the answer, and why the paralysis they're feeling has a lot more to do with grief than with grant strategy.

    What You'll Learn:

    The legal requirements you need to follow in a nonprofit dissolution Why a bigger gift to fewer orgs makes a far greater impact What you actually need to check before giving Why over-vetting the successor organization is a common hurdle to dissolving nonprofits What makes that final gift ACTUALLY difficult (and it's not the reason you think)

    Bottom line: There is no perfect formula that will make the end of a nonprofit hurt less. Do your due diligence, give the best gift you can, and let yourself grieve.

    Resources from this Episode

    Previous Episode: https://birkenlaw.com/charity-therapy-podcast/ct172-board-basics-by-a-teenager Episode Transcript: https://birkenlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/CT_Ep173_Transcript.pdf

    Connect with Us

    Jess Birken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessbirken/ Meghan Heitkamp: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghan-heitkamp-829254115/

    Listen & Engage

    Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Music Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts: Click "Ratings and Reviews" then "Write a Review" Send us your nonprofit questions: https://birkenlaw.com/podcast/#podcast-story

    Stay Connected

    Sign up for the Birken Law Email list: https://birkenlaw.com/signup/ Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter
    Thu, 17 Sep 2026 - 15min
  • 173 - 172: Nonprofit PTSD | Nonprofit Board Basics, Explained by a Teenager

    What happens when you ask a 14 year-old to give advice to a bunch of board members who can't get along? Well, sometimes your local teenager might just give you the BEST take on the situation.

    I'm joined by a very special guest this episode: my kid, Max. We start with a crash course on what a nonprofit board is, why board members are volunteers, and what the typical officer titles really mean. Then Max puts on his guest expert hat and helps me untangle a board drama that's threatening to sink an entire organization.

    Real Listener Questions:

    Becoming a volunteer at my nonprofit requires a majority board vote, and becoming a full board member requires a unanimous vote. Now our president is trying to impose veto power so he can overturn our votes if he disagrees. Other board members and I think he's trying to become a dictator instead of a leader. How do I make him understand he doesn't own the nonprofit and doesn't get to call all the shots?

    Max and I dig into what's really going on here, why veto power isn't how healthy boards work, and why the answer to almost every board conflict comes back to one thing: communication.

    What You'll Learn:

    What a nonprofit board is and why members are unpaid volunteers Why volunteer status comes with legal liability protection What the president, treasurer, and secretary actually do How to handle board recruitment through policy instead of power plays Why community and togetherness are what keep an all-volunteer org alive

    Bottom line: You can't hammer your will through a board with veto power and expect the organization to survive. Communication, being heard, and a real sense of community are what keep a nonprofit standing. And sometimes a teenager can see that more clearly than anyone.

    Resources from this Episode

    Previous Episode: https://birkenlaw.com/charity-therapy-podcast/ct171-fundraising-myths-patrick-kirby Episode Transcript: https://birkenlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/CT_Ep172_Transcript.pdf

    Connect with Us

    Jess Birken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessbirken/

    Listen & Engage

    Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Music Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts: Click "Ratings and Reviews" then "Write a Review" Send us your nonprofit questions: https://birkenlaw.com/podcast/#podcast-story

    Stay Connected

    Sign up for the Birken Law Email list: https://birkenlaw.com/signup/ Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter
    Thu, 03 Sep 2026 - 20min
  • 172 - 171: You Don't Need Some Guy on a Yacht | Ditching the Fundraising Myths with Patrick Kirby

    Fundraising doesn't have to be intimidating, jargon-filled, or a total drag.

    I'm joined by Patrick Kirby, the nonprofit and fundraising consultant behind Do Good Better Consulting and a self-described human exclamation mark. Patrick brings so much energy and joy to fundraising that it's genuinely contagious. We tackle three listener questions, bust some persistent fundraising myths, and Patrick goes on a rant that you will not want to miss.

    Real Listener Questions:

    What do you do when your software is getting in the way of your marketing? How do you keep the faith when what you're trying just isn't working?

    Patrick and I dig into what actually drives donations, why software is never the silver bullet, and why losing a program that made you almost no money might be the best thing that ever happened to your fundraising.

    What You'll Learn:

    Why "this is the way we've always done it" kills good ideas before they start How to be purposeful with your calls to action instead of always asking for money Why a CRM helps but won't magically fix your fundraising for you How to keep your motivation up when donor outreach feels like a grind Why a thank-you voicemail counts as a real, meaningful touchpoint How to make your fundraising about the donor and the community you serve

    Bottom line: You're doing more impact than you think. Let the old ways go, focus on great stories and real relationships, and remember that you're part of the solution to problems the government can't fix on its own.

    Resources from this Episode

    Check out Do Good Better Consulting: https://www.dogoodbetterconsulting.com Previous Episode: https://birkenlaw.com/charity-therapy-podcast/ct170-fire-your-board/ Episode Transcript: https://birkenlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/CT_Ep171_Transcript.pdf

    Connect with Us

    Jess Birken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessbirken/ Patrick Kirby: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fundraisingdad/

    Listen & Engage

    Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Music Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts: Click "Ratings and Reviews" then "Write a Review" Send us your nonprofit questions: https://birkenlaw.com/podcast/#podcast-story

    Stay Connected

    Sign up for the Birken Law Email list: https://birkenlaw.com/signup/ Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter
    Thu, 20 Aug 2026 - 25min
  • 171 - 170: Shots Fired! | Can a Nonprofit Fire Its Own Board?

    What if you could just... skip the whole "having a board of directors" part of running a nonprofit? Turns out, you're not the only one who've thought about it!

    We all know every nonprofit pro has quietly wondered at some point whether they really need a board at all. This week's listener question puts that quiet part out loud, and we dig into what's really going on when a board goes off the rails.

    Real Listener Question:

    "I work for a small business league and our whole board is useless. They do nothing to help us but keep finding random projects for us to do. The directors all say they're too busy for their normal board duties. My ED and I are wondering if there's a way to get all the board members to just sign away their roles so we don't have to have a board at all. Can we do that?"

    Meghan and I break down what a board is actually supposed to do, why some people join boards for reasons that have nothing to do with the mission, and why "let's just get rid of them" is a fantasy (even though the underlying frustration is very real).

    What You'll Learn:

    What the core job of every nonprofit board actually is Why some boards drift into micromanaging staff and how it happens Why "signing away" board roles isn't a legal option (sorry!) What to do when board members treat staff like their personal assistants Why board and staff relationships are hard for every nonprofit When it's time to bring in outside training for your board

    Bottom line: It's completely normal to be frustrated with your board. You're not alone. But the answer isn't getting rid of them. It's figuring out what your board is actually there to do and getting them back on track.

    Resources from this Episode

    Previous Episode: https://birkenlaw.com/charity-therapy-podcast/ct169-nonprofit-retirement-christopher-tipper/ Episode Transcript: https://birkenlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/CT_Ep170_Transcript.pdf

    Connect with Us

    Jess Birken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessbirken/ Meghan Heitkamp: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghan-heitkamp-829254115/

    Listen & Engage

    Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Music Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts: Click "Ratings and Reviews" then "Write a Review" Send us your nonprofit questions: https://birkenlaw.com/podcast/#podcast-story

    Stay Connected

    Sign up for the Birken Law Email list: https://birkenlaw.com/signup/ Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter
    Thu, 06 Aug 2026 - 15min
  • 170 - 169: Different Flavors, Same Ice Cream | How Can a Nonprofit Organization Offer Retirement Benefits? with Christopher Tipper

    Your nonprofit is doing well, but you're worried you'll lose good employees if you don't offer retirement benefits. You've heard of a 401(k), but is that the right move?

    I'm joined by Christopher Tipper of Hunter Benefits Consulting Group to break down retirement benefit options for small nonprofits. Christopher helps us wade through the alphabet soup of 403(b)s, 401(k)s, and simple IRAs.

    Real Listener Question:

    "I'm an Executive Director of a small org, and I've been advocating to my board that it's time to offer more benefits, including a 401(k). I realize it's a selfish ask since I'd benefit too, but I think it would help us recruit and retain good people. I started researching and I'm already in over my head. How do I even begin?"

    Christopher and I walk through the retirement plan options that actually make sense for small nonprofits, why the 401(k) isn't always the best fit, and what the ED needs to know before pitching this to their board.

    What You'll Learn:

    What retirement plan options nonprofits can consider and which ones actually make sense Why a simple IRA might be the easiest and cheapest option for small orgs What a 403(b) is and why only 501(c)(3) organizations can offer one Why the "highly compensated employee" definition is not what you think it is What compliance really costs and what to budget per eligible employee Why AI is genuinely dangerous for retirement plan advice

    Bottom line: If you're the ED asking whether it's a conflict of interest to advocate for retirement benefits, stop worrying. The board decides. Your job is to make the case, not to feel guilty about being included.

    Resources from this Episode

    Learn about Christopher Tipper's firm at https://hunterbenefits.com/ Watch Christopher's videos: https://www.youtube.com/@Hunter_Benefits Previous Episode: https://birkenlaw.com/charity-therapy-podcast/ct168-flat-org-structre-pablo-otaola Episode Transcript: https://birkenlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/CT169_Transcript.pdf

    Connect with Us

    Jess Birken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessbirken/ Christopher Tipper: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophertipper/

    Listen & Engage

    Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Music Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts: Click "Ratings and Reviews" then "Write a Review" Send us your nonprofit questions: https://birkenlaw.com/podcast/#podcast-story

    Stay Connected

    Sign up for the Birken Law Email list: https://birkenlaw.com/signup/ Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter
    Thu, 23 Jul 2026 - 25min
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