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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Jordan Long on this week’s episode of Built 4 More. Jordan is the International President of Disciple Christian Motorcycle Club, the world’s largest Christian motorcycle club, and owns Crazy Eights Customs in St. Augustine, Florida.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Jordan Long on this week’s episode of Built 4 More. Jordan is the International President of Disciple Christian Motorcycle Club, the world’s largest Christian motorcycle club, and owns Crazy Eights Customs in St. Augustine, Florida.

If you or someone you love is struggling with thoughts of suicide, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.

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Chapters

00:00 Meet Jordan Long

05:07 Raised by His Grandparents on Two Wheels

08:44 The Christian Who Wouldn’t Leave Him Alone

11:54 13 Days Awake and a 2am Message

17:58 If God Nudges You, Make the Call

36:28 Saved but Still Struggling

41:04 What Jesus Did After Peter Failed Him

46:18 The Four Disciplines That Change Men

56:06 From Prospect to International President

1:22:13 If You Want to Lead, Serve Harder

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Josh Howerton on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Josh is the senior pastor of Lakepointe Church in Rockwall, Texas and hosts the Live Free podcast.

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Chapters

00:00 The Episode That Stopped His Workout

01:47 Five Revivals, Fifty Years Apart

06:56 How It Feels to Be an Overnight Success

09:45 The Church of 125 That Started All of This

12:04 Eight Months of Panic Attacks

17:01 Leaving a Church He Planned to Retire At

34:42 The Only Pastor COVID Was Good For

48:19 The Night the Internet Came for Him

50:15 So Tonight We Feast

1:26:56 Fear Is Not a Personality

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Tim Timberlake on this week’s episode of Built 4 More. Tim is the pastor of Celebration Church in Jacksonville, Florida, and cohosts the Street Preachers podcast with Phillip Anthony Mitchell.

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Chapters:

00:00 Back Together Again

05:17 Two Pastors on the Same Team

23:13 Teaching What You Still Struggle With

27:15 Where to Start With a New Believer

30:26 Why You Never Feel Like Enough

40:42 Should Christian Families Do Halloween?

46:19 Can the Devil Hear Your Prayers?

56:57 Criticism Behind the Tour 1:05:12 When People Question Your Motives

1:17:37 Loving Your Wife Through a Diagnosis

1:25:40 What It Means to Be the Head of Your Home

1:32:19 When Every Sermon Feels Heavy

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Kevin Malone, former general manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers and now Senior Advisor on Human Trafficking at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. They talk about how Kevin went from an MLB general manager to what he is doing today, the online threats targeting teenagers, and the conversation every parent needs to have before the enemy gets there first.If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988.FOLLOW BUILT 4 MOREWebsite: https://built4morepod.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepodYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@built4morepodCHAPTERS00:00 A Baseball Lifer Walks In06:22 What the Climb Cost at Home21:55 Why He Didn't Retire to the Golf Course29:04 I Gave You Your Son Back34:01 The Online Threats Coming for Your Kids42:02 The Foster Care Crisis55:39 You Can't Fight the Devil in the Dark1:18:13 The Phone Stays Out of the Bedroom

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Shayne Boyle, better known as Insane Shayne, on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Shayne has millions of followers from making videos catching marshmallows in his mouth, playing full tackle basketball with guys twice his size, being on America's Got Talent, touring with Dude Perfect, and now takes his crew to youth groups and churches across the country.

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Chapters

00:00 Meet Insane Shayne

00:38 From College Football to Catching Marshmallows

06:27 The Grape Tapes and a Million Views

08:38 Telling Your Dad You Want to Be a YouTuber

11:36 The Career Advice Dude Perfect Ignored

14:32 Choose Better Heroes for Your Kids

22:34 Shock Collar Free Throws and Other Bad Ideas

31:45 What Can I Do for the Kingdom If I'm Not a Preacher?

33:32 Pay Attention to Your Weird Talents

38:46 How His Faith Actually Grew

49:46 How to Know If It's Really God Speaking

50:04 Why Paul Would Be the Worst Counselor

1:00:50 If You Hide From Dad, You Don't Get the Gospel

1:14:47 If It's From God, You Can't Stop It

1:19:23 You Can Be a Christian Who Makes Content

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with New York Times bestselling author Charles Martin on this week’s episode of Built 4 More. Charles walked on at Georgia Tech until a broken vertebra ended the football dream he shared with his dad. He waited hours to make the call. His dad’s answer: “If I leave right now, I can be there by supper.”

Years later, Charles turned down a six-figure job to pursue writing, while his wife Christy stood with him through 86 rejection letters. He tells those stories, shares how he and Joby began writing books together, and talks about the question behind his new book, *The Reason for Jesus*: Do you know God as your Father? This episode is about what happens when your identity falls apart, what it costs to follow a calling, and why Jesus came to make the Father known.

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CHAPTERS

0:00 Meet Charles Martin

1:52 Walking on at Georgia Tech

7:15 The hit that ended the football dream

10:17 “I can be there by supper”

15:15 When your son’s game becomes your identity

24:52 What happened at Saturated

33:16 Why Charles started writing at 15

39:53 A six-figure offer and a novel in a drawer

46:58 Rejection number 86

55:02 Why Charles almost said no to writing with Joby

1:07:42 “Do you think of Me as your Father?”

1:11:02 What changed when Charles prayed “Abba”

1:13:41 Why Jesus came

1:19:29 How Joby and Charles write books together

1:37:15 What the Father showed Charles about his own heart

1:39:51 No condemnation and nothing can separate you from His love

1:41:36 You are a son or daughter first

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Shane Winnings, the CEO of Promise Keepers, on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Before he led a national men's ministry, Shane was an Army officer and jumpmaster, then a police officer in one of the most violent stretches of Washington State.

He has been shot at in war, and the thing that scared him most was walking up to a stranger to talk about Jesus. This episode is about where that fear comes from, why it hits Christians who are brave everywhere else, and the simple rule that finally beat it.

CHAPTERS

(0:00) Army officer, cop, and now the man running Promise Keepers

(2:18) The night on his bed and one sentence from God

(5:23) Quitting the badge with a pregnant wife, funded in 19 days

(8:05) Shot at in war, still scared of a stranger in a park

(9:35) The stranger you're avoiding might have prayed last night

(13:17) Joby's 14,000 foot jump with a team of Navy SEALs

(19:47) Why reps kill fear in every arena

(22:50) You cannot argue anyone into heaven

(34:30) Never apologize for the anointing

(48:43) The past that Romans 8 never mentions

(52:39) Where's the line between the pulpit and politics?

(1:11:21) Would Jesus abdicate his role as a citizen?

(1:23:58) The night Charlie Kirk died, from this studio

(1:32:35) You can hate his values. He is still a person.

(1:38:43) Demons are discipling your kids 30 feet away

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down and work through the questions you have been sending in, plus how the merch drop is going to run.

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Chapters:

2:09 The Big Announcement

4:30 Saturated Is Coming

10:14 Learning to Follow Jesus as a Grown Man

15:53 God's Will Is About Who You're Becoming

21:18 Six Baptisms on an Elk Hunt

23:42 Is Money the Root of All Evil?

37:52 Sin Less, Feel Worse

42:34 The Rooms You Don't Let God Into

44:29 How to Fight Addiction

58:36 Is It Wrong to Make Money in Ministry?

1:05:56 Is Online Church Enough?

1:09:49 Why You Don't Feel Close to God

1:24:09 Football Season Is Here

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Dr. Joel Muddamalle on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Joel is the Director of Theology and Research at Proverbs 31 Ministries, cohost of Therapy and Theology alongside Lysa TerKeurst, and author of The Unseen Battle.

Before any of that, Joel was a Bible software salesman at the peak of his career, traveling 150,000 miles a year while his marriage quietly fell apart. His oldest son started hiding his travel bag because he knew dad would leave when it came out.

Joel, Joby, and Denny talk about the reality of spiritual warfare and why the enemy's tactics are more subtle than most people expect. Joel breaks down the ancient pattern of temptation through what we see, what we desire, and what we take, and how that same pattern shows up today through addiction, pornography, AI, entertainment, and comfort. They get into what it means to give the enemy a foothold, what is actually discipling you and your kids, why feelings cannot be the authority over Scripture, how to test the words God told me, and why ordinary obedience in the smallest task matters more than chasing outcomes.

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down to answer listener questions.

If you have a question for a future episode, drop it in the comments.

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Chapters:

02:17 – I'm Saved. Why Do I Still Feel Guilty?

08:49 – How to Find Your Spiritual Gift

12:39 – How to Build a Real Connection With God

17:44 – Who You Hang Around Matters

21:29 – What Full Surrender Actually Looks Like

26:16 – If You Won't Wake Up for It, You Don't Want It

30:26 – How to Explain Jesus to a Nonbeliever

33:29 – Communicating Needs Without Nagging

36:00 – Vulnerability in Marriage

42:37 – How to Choose a Home Church

49:17 – Is Gambling a Sin or Just Dumb?

55:24 – Could Jesus Have Sinned?

01:02:27 – The Most Important Trait of Biblical Manhood

01:05:26 – Can Women Be Pastors?

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Super Bowl champion Brady Russell of the Seattle Seahawks.

Brady grew up in church, led FCA in high school, and knew all the right answers. But looking back, he realized there was a major difference between knowing about Jesus and actually knowing Him.

Brady walks through the seasons when God’s plan made little sense in the moment. At Colorado, he had every reason to leave, but while praying he felt God tell him to “be where your feet are.” What followed was one of the hardest seasons of his life, and Brady began wondering if he had heard God wrong. It was only later that he saw what God had been doing through him the entire time.

Joby, Denny, and Brady talk about trusting God when you cannot see the outcome, why obedience often comes before understanding, how to recognize God’s faithfulness in hindsight, and what it looks like to follow Jesus when the people around you do not. Brady shares why he prayed for a platform as a kid, only to discover that his greatest platform would not be fame or attention. It would be the relationships right in front of him.

Today, Brady is using that platform to disciple other NFL players, lead Bible studies, and live out a faith that can be seen in the way he works, leads, and serves. It is a conversation about being faithful where God has placed you and trusting that no season is wasted when He is the one leading you.

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Dr. Jeremiah Johnston, New York Times bestselling author of The Jesus Discoveries, president of the Christian Thinkers Society, and one of the world's leading scholars on the resurrection of Jesus. He earned his PhD at Oxford studying the resurrection.

Jeremiah did not just talk about the evidence. He put it on the table. The oldest fragment of the New Testament. A replica of the whip that took a third of Jesus's blood. A crown of thorns cut in Jerusalem the week before, from the same tree the Ark of the Covenant was built from. Coins of every man who tried to kill Jesus. And a real first century crucifixion nail, bent and rusted from use, that left Denny speechless. Then he walks through the physics of the Shroud of Turin: an image one fifth the width of a human hair, created by 34 billion watts of energy in a fraction of a billionth of a second, that science still cannot replicate.

Joby, Denny, and Jeremiah talk about how we have 5,800 manuscripts of the New Testament, the miraculous healing of Jeremiah's son Abel, why you are the pastor of your home, why faith was never meant to be faith in faith, and the moment a box marked Crown of Thorns showed up on Denny’s doorstep.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Dr. Jeremiah Johnston

09:33 – Is the Bible Just a Copy of a Copy

10:43 – Holding the Oldest Fragment of the New Testament

19:11 – We Don't Have Faith in Faith

21:06 – How the Manuscripts Were Actually Written

30:53 – We Only Have 26 Days of Jesus's Life

35:33 – The Whip That Took a Third of His Blood

40:47 – The Ark of the Covenant Connection

45:43 – Why We Don't Take Sin Seriously

52:30 – Psalm 22 Was Written Before Crucifixion Existed

53:17 – Holding a Real Crucifixion Nail

1:05:52 – Coins of Every Man Who Tried to Kill Jesus

1:13:14 – Growing Up in Church vs Knowing Why You Believe

1:20:35 – Shroud of Turin

1:24:38 – The Morning of April 5, AD 33

1:34:11 – A PhD in the Resurrection at Oxford

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Edwin Martin on this week’s episode of Built 4 More.

At 20 years old, Edwin was hiding a four year gambling addiction that nearly cost him his life. He was borrowing money he couldn’t repay, carrying debts no one knew about, and placing bets from the church pew while claiming to follow Jesus.

It ended with Edwin alone on his bathroom floor, ready to take his own life. He prayed one desperate prayer: “God, if You are real, reveal Yourself.” Ten seconds later, his best friend unexpectedly texted him three words: “I love you.” That text interrupted Edwin’s darkest moment, and the friend who sent it would eventually lead him to Christ.

Five years later, Edwin is an endurance athlete using every mile to point people toward hope. He recently ran 133.2 miles on a treadmill for 24 hours straight at a 10:49 minute per mile pace to raise money for suicide prevention. Months earlier, he ran across the entire state of South Carolina to support families battling cancer.

Joby, Denny, and Edwin talk about the gambling epidemic hiding in plain sight, how sports betting is being engineered to keep people hooked, the difference between Jesus plus something and Jesus alone, why the enemy doesn’t care how he hooks you, and what can happen when you obey a nudge from God. They also discuss fitness without fulfillment, stewarding your body as an act of worship, and The Ship, which is Edwin’s mission to mentor fatherless boys.

If you have ever hidden a struggle behind a smile or wondered whether your story can still be redeemed, this conversation is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 Meet Edwin Martin

00:24 Running 133 Miles in 24 Hours

02:08 Running Across South Carolina

02:55 The Transformation Photo

06:05 Why Edwin Runs for Suicide Prevention

06:23 The Gambling Addiction Nobody Knew About

06:53 The Text That Saved His Life

07:45 Sports Betting’s Hidden Cost

08:54 How to Know When You Have a Problem

10:27 You Can Bet on Anything Now

12:49 Is Jesus Really Enough?

13:08 The Enemy Doesn’t Care How He Hooks You

14:43 Why Monday Night Football Exists

17:07 They’re Engineering Your Brain

18:56 The Friend Who Led Edwin to Christ

21:34 Why He Walked Away From the Navy SEALs

22:16 The Text That Changed His Path

23:07 When God Tells You to Text Someone

24:55 The Hardest Text Joby Ever Sent

27:33 Three Phone Calls That Saved Three Lives

31:11 A Message for Anyone in a Dark Place

32:11 The Messages That Keep Coming

33:24 The Biggest Struggles Facing His Generation

35:58 Fitness Without Fulfillment

37:00 Running Is Just the Vehicle

38:04 The Greyhound Chasing a Fake Rabbit

40:48 The Antidote Nobody Wants to Hear

45:04 Can Working Out Glorify God?

47:26 Work Is Worship

48:06 Joby’s 30-Pound Comeback

51:19 Love God With All Your Strength

54:53 Seized by a Greater Affection

59:35 You Only Have One Life

1:01:04 Jesus Plus Something Isn’t Jesus

1:01:44 The Ship: Mentoring Fatherless Boys

1:03:41 Who Will Pick Up Your Mat?

1:10:18 No More Casual Christianity

1:12:54 Your Story Isn’t Over

1:15:10 Project Savior Outdoors

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Liam Coen on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Liam was a four-year starting quarterback at UMass where he still holds multiple school passing records. He spent nearly a decade grinding through small Northeast programs  Brown, Rhode Island, and Maine, writing handwritten letters and knocking on every NFL door he could find, until one relationship finally got him in with Sean McVay and the Rams. A few years later he's the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and in year one he took a franchise that had been going nowhere and led it to 13 wins and a division championship.

But long before any of that, Liam walked through the hardest thing of his life. He opens up about losing his mother, Beth after  a four year battle with Lyme disease while he was in college and his dad was in the hospital. He talks honestly about burying that grief for a decade, the way it eventually crept up and started to eat at him, the mental health toll of pretending he was fine, and how a real relationship with Jesus finally brought him grace, forgiveness, and healing.

Joby, Denny, and Liam talk about authenticity and why players "sniff out a fraud" instantly, the permission to fail that unlocked Trevor Lawrence, why he deleted all of his social media, the difference between a hero and a warrior, why "balance doesn't exist," what Travis Hunter really brings to the locker room, and what it looks like to stop trying to be someone else and become who God actually made you.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Coach Liam Coen

04:36 – Why He Fell in Love With Jacksonville

07:11 – How He Turned the Jaguars Around

09:48 – Did He Know Trevor Could Be This?

10:19 – Watching Trevor Lawrence as a Freshman

13:17 – "Go Be You": Unlocking Trevor

15:28 – The Permission to Fail

18:21 – Why He Stopped Trying to Be Other Coaches

20:17 – The Houston Collapse

21:12 – Hero vs. Warrior: The Meeting That Turned the Season

24:59 – The Youngest Staff in NFL History

27:24 – "Do I Belong Here?"

30:25 – The Night He Knew He Belonged

32:39 – What Sean McVay Taught Him About People

33:32 – Tony Boselli and the Standard

35:18 – The Travis Hunter Trade

35:44 – The Real Travis Hunter

39:34 – From UMass QB to NFL Head Coach

40:38 – How He Went From Maine to the Rams

46:37 – "We'll Play Anybody, Anywhere, Anytime"

49:22 – The Pressure of High Expectations

51:56 – Losing His Mom

55:07 – The Trauma He Buried for 10 Years

55:50 – How Faith Brought Him Grace and Forgiveness

59:05 – The Cleats and the Holy Spirit

1:00:38 – The Myth of "There"

1:01:28 – The Question That Made Him Quit Social Media

1:03:26 – Why Balance Doesn't Exist

1:05:48 – Family Days and Putting People First

1:08:22 – Why He's Grateful to Coach in Jacksonville

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pro Football Hall of Famer Tony Boselli on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Tony was one of the most dominant left tackles to ever play the game. The first draft pick in Jacksonville Jaguars history, the best in the world at what he did. Then, at thirty years old and at the top of his game, a shoulder injury ended all of it. In an instant, the one thing he was great at was gone, and Tony was left away from everyone he knew, depressed, angry at God, and asking the question that leveled him: who am I without football?

Tony shares what those years actually did to him. Being told his shoulder would never work again at the peak of his career. Lying in bed as a grown man wondering where God's protection went. The morning he realized four little kids and a wife were watching to see what kind of man he would be. And the thought that finally broke it open, if God had told him at eighteen that he would get USC, the NFL, a Hall of Fame career, and then have it all taken at thirty, would he still have said yes?

Joby, Denny, and Tony talk about identity, the battle with control, why success never actually tells you who you are, learning to count it all joy in the middle of suffering, and the Bible study that started with a handful of Jaguars players in 1996 and grew into a church. Tony also opens up about his role as Executive Vice President of Football Operations, why his entire job comes down to one sentence, making other people successful, and what it really looks like to finally stop trying to be God.

If you have ever built your whole identity on the thing you are best at, this conversation is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Tony Boselli

02:22 – Three Strangers, One Standard

04:15 – You Can Be Talented and Still Get Cut

07:10 – Why Shad Khan Hired Us

08:18 – The Executive Assistant Who Became a GM

11:32 – "My Only Job Is to Make Them Successful"

12:16 – Humility Is a Posture, Not a Personality

14:29 – One Ego Can Burn the Whole Thing Down

15:53 – The Houston Game and the Ghost of "Old Jacksonville"

21:09 – The Meeting That Turned the Season

21:57 – Eight Straight Wins and a New Offense

26:24 – The Offensive Line Is a Picture of the Gospel

31:33 – What Tom Coughlin Taught Him

39:32 – "We Get Paid More Than We Deserve"

41:53 – The Injury That Ended His Career

43:19 – His Wife Became His Rock

46:08 – The Thing You're Stressed About Was Once Your Prayer

48:16 – Trying to Be God Will Wreck You

50:18 – Consider It Pure Joy

52:07 – Learning to Enjoy the Suffering

59:53 – "I'd Be Lying If I Said I Don't Like Being a Hall of Famer"

1:00:17 – What He Values More Than the Gold Jacket

1:03:05 – The Bible Study That Became a Church

1:13:34 – "Dad, I Got Saved"

1:20:00 – Why Broadcasting Left Him Empty

1:25:44 – David in the Pasture: Preparation, Not Punishment

1:31:47 – "The More My Guys Are With You, the Less Likely They Are to Go to Jail"

1:35:29 – Crisis Is a Terrible Calendar

1:37:36 – We've Never Been Their Age in This Age

1:44:32 – Why the Draft Is the Most Misunderstood Event in Sports

1:54:30 – The Man Behind the Hall of Famer

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Super Bowl champion and former NFL punter Steve Weatherford on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Steve spent ten years in the NFL, won a Super Bowl, made the cover of Men's Health, and became known as the fittest man in professional football. From the outside, he had everything. On the inside, he was addicted to pain pills, trapped in pornography, and standing at a window at two in the morning after the biggest win of his life wondering why he felt nothing at all.

Steve shares the story he rarely tells. Being cut in a locker room at twenty five years old and having to ask the groundskeeper for a ride. Hearing a street preacher through a hotel window seventeen floors up saying the exact words he needed. Being abused as a child by a Christian teacher and spending the next twenty four years trying to prove he was enough. And the night in a circus tent in the desert when everything finally broke open.

Joby, Denny, and Steve talk about identity, addiction, the lie that achievement will finally fill the hole, confession and healing in marriage, why encouragement makes you a leader, and what it actually looks like to be transformed instead of just informed.

If you have ever chased something believing it would finally make you enough, this conversation is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Steve Weatherford

01:20 – Cut in the Locker Room

04:50 – The Street Preacher Outside the Window

07:10 – Jacksonville and the Jeep on Beach Boulevard

12:50 – Ten Years in the NFL as an Undrafted Free Agent

13:10 – "Winning the Super Bowl Was the Most Depressing Night of My Life"

15:15 – The Goals He Wrote Down at Fourteen

15:20 – The Abuse That Made Him Question If God Was Real

16:35 – The Night He Won It All and Felt Nothing

17:25 – The Greyhound and the Fake Rabbit

22:30 – Pills, Porn, and the Life Nobody Saw

24:20 – Leaving His Wife and Kids

25:05 – Walking Into Church for the First Time in Twenty Years

28:00 – The Burden Board

29:10 – The Man Who Led Him to Christ at Eleven

32:25 – His Son Gives His Life to Jesus

36:00 – The Deceitfulness of Sin

41:30 – From Competition to Completion

48:40 – Working For Victory vs From Victory

55:35 – Fighting the Devil in the Dark

57:45 – Confession, Marriage, and Healing

1:02:00 – Why Discipline Could Not Save Him

1:05:20 – Identity Comes First

1:13:30 – The Game Film in Heaven

1:26:35 – What Surprises Him Now

1:32:45 – Change Your Inputs

1:40:30 – Get in the Dust of the Right Men

1:44:40 – "I Got This" Is the Most Dangerous Thing a Man Can Say

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with actor, filmmaker, and former police officer Jim Klock on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Before Jim ever stepped onto a Hollywood set, he spent a decade serving as a police officer and undercover narcotics detective. He loved the job, but God began calling him somewhere he never expected. What followed was a journey of faith that took him from the streets of Virginia to some of the biggest productions in Hollywood.

Jim shares how a late-night security shift led him to Christ, why he walked away from a career he loved, and how God opened doors that eventually led him to work alongside some of the biggest names in the film industry. But more than anything, this conversation is about learning to trust God's calling, choosing humility over recognition, and using every opportunity to encourage the people around you.

Joby, Denny, and Jim discuss the difference between passion and purpose, what it's really like to be a Christian in Hollywood, the danger of pride, why encouragement matters, leadership, identity, and what success actually looks like when your life is centered on Christ.

If you've ever wrestled with stepping into God's calling or wondered if He's asking you to leave what's comfortable for something greater, this conversation is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Jim Klock

01:25 – From Drama Student to Police Officer

04:25 – The Night Jim Gave His Life to Christ

07:55 – Undercover Narcotics & Finding His Calling

11:45 – Leaving the Career He Loved

16:20 – Passion vs. God's Assignment

22:45 – Faith Requires Action

27:30 – From Cop to Hollywood

33:45 – Is Hollywood Really Anti-Christian?

39:15 – Keanu Reeves & Humility

43:00 – The Power of Encouragement

47:00 – Sharing Your Faith in Hollywood

50:00 – Changing Hollywood's Culture

56:30 – Success, Identity & Purpose

1:07:10 – Playing Villains Without Losing Yourself

1:12:00 – Giving People More Grace

1:17:00 – Transactional vs. Transformational Leadership

1:24:00 – Fame, Validation & Identity

1:29:45 – What Success Really Looks Like

1:38:00 – The Roles That Changed Jim's Life

1:49:50 – Building Healthy Culture on Set

1:57:00 – Leadership, Teamwork & Hollywood

2:02:45 – The Film That Meant the Most

2:05:20 – Final Thoughts

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Green Beret John Wayne Walding on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Born on the Fourth of July and named after the Western legend, John Wayne Walding lost his right leg in the Battle of Shok Valley, one of the most intense firefights since Vietnam. He tied it off with a tourniquet and kept fighting for hours until every one of his brothers made it off the mountain alive.

But the war was only the beginning. John woke up the next morning with one leg and a choice: be a victim or be a victor. He chose to never quit. He ran the Boston Marathon on a hand cycle, became the first amputee to requalify as a Green Beret sniper, got 14 years sober, and surrendered his life to Christ. In this conversation he shares the warrior mindset that carried him off that mountain and now drives his faith, and the conviction he lives by every single day: I owe it to the fallen to live well.

This is a raw and powerful conversation about courage, identity, and what it actually costs to be free. Joby, Denny, and John Wayne dig into the true story of the Battle of Shok Valley, the faith of America's founders 250 years after the Revolution, why God never calls anyone to easy, why struggle is good, spiritual warfare and the tactics of the enemy, and the difference between earning grace and walking worthy of it.

If you have ever felt like your hardest season was the end of your story, this one is for you.

This week on Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down alone. Just the two of them answering listener questions.

They open on what may be the most common question in the inbox. What do you do after baptism when you find yourself back in the same sin you thought you left behind. Joby walks through the difference between conviction and condemnation, the three tenses of salvation, and why the instinct to clean yourself up before coming back to God is the exact opposite of what God actually wants from you.

The conversation moves through some of the heaviest questions you have asked. Discerning God's calling on your life versus your own ambition. Carrying the burden of leading a family when the world feels heavier than it used to. Supporting a husband struggling with his identity. Loving a family member fighting suicidal thoughts. Raising an athlete without putting a weight on them they were never meant to carry. Talking to the friend who says they want to believe but cannot get there. What it actually looks like to tithe when every dollar feels accounted for.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Josh Turner on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Josh is a pastor, the founder of the 10:10 Project, and the father of Riley, a 19-year-old with a rare genetic disorder who has had 33 surgeries, sleeps on a ventilator, and just graduated high school.

When Riley was born, three doctors walked into the hospital room and told Josh and his wife Becca she would live a year and they would have to decide when to let her go. Riley is now 19, preaches across the country, and one day told her dad to stop praying for her healing because God made her this way on purpose.

In this conversation, Josh opens up about walking through suffering publicly, why he stopped asking God why, what NT Wright told him that changed everything, and the morning he lost a friend in ministry that led him to start the 10:10 Project. Joby and Denny dig into burnout, why 42 percent of pastors want to leave the ministry, the danger of success, and what it actually looks like to build rhythms that keep you healthy for the long haul.

This is one of the most honest conversations we've had on Built 4 More about suffering, faith, and what God does when you can't figure out why.

Learn more about the 10:10 Project: 1010project.com

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Ruslan KD on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Ruslan came to America as an Armenian refugee, found Jesus in Southern California, and built one of the most recognizable voices covering Christian content. He started as a rapper, became a commentator, wrote a book on godly ambition, and now hosts the Bless God conference.

This conversation is about what happens when the algorithm starts doing the job the local church was meant to do. Ruslan gets honest about his own turn away from the tear down content that built his platform, why the stuff that goes viral is often the worst thing for your soul, and why nobody actually gets discipled through a screen. From there the three of them dig into godly ambition versus selfish ambition, why contentment is the launchpad and not the finish line, what it looks like to love God with your body and not just your mind, and how wisdom usually shows up as restraint when the whole culture is begging you to react.

It is one of the more layered conversations we have had on the show, and it will make you rethink the content you consume and the life you are actually building.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Drew Parker on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Drew Parker is one of the most successful songwriters in country music. He wrote Homemade for Jake Owen, Stay Country or Die Trying for Blake Shelton, and Doing This for Luke Combs, a song that earned a Grammy nomination for Best Country Song. Four number one songs. Stadium tours. The Grand Ole Opry. A weekend on stage with Willie Nelson. By every measure, he had made it.

But Drew had been a believer his whole life, and at the very top of his career he could not shake the feeling that something was missing. He had chased the dream all the way from a small town in Georgia to Nashville, and it still was not enough. So he prayed and asked God to make it clear what he was supposed to do next. Days later his manager called him shaking. A skeptic who had never had a kind word for faith. He said he had been waking up in the middle of the night hearing that Drew was supposed to sing songs about Jesus.

Drew walked away from his record deal at the peak of his career. He put out his testimony in a song called Blame Jesus. He is still writing country music, but now he is using the same gift to point people to Christ.

In this conversation Drew opens up about the emptiness of chasing success, what it actually costs to follow Jesus, surrendering a dream he spent his whole life building, and how God was chasing him the entire time.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Matt Chandler on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Matt is the lead pastor of The Village Church in Texas and has spent more than two decades as one of the most listened to pastors in the country.

Most of us were sold a version of faith that goes straight up and to the right. Follow Jesus, and life gets cleaner, easier, better. Matt's new book Becoming Like Jesus tells the truth instead. The Christian life is a coil of highs and lows, and every low is still moving you forward. The seasons that feel like failure are usually the seasons God is using to form you.

In this conversation, Joby, Denny, and Matt get into why you sin less and feel worse the longer you walk with Jesus, why we run from God when we should be running to Him, how lesser loves quietly steal our hunger for the things that matter, and why isolation is one of the enemy's most effective weapons against men. Matt also opens up about his brain cancer diagnosis and what suffering taught him about the goodness of God.

If your faith feels stuck, or you have wondered whether a hard season means you are doing something wrong, this one is for you.

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Tim Timberlake on this week’s episode of Built 4 More.

Tim Timberlake is a pastor, communicator, and leader at Celebration Church in Jacksonville, Florida. In this conversation, Tim opens up about the pain that shaped his life, from walking through his father’s cancer diagnosis as a young boy, running from God, getting shot at 16 years old, and eventually having a dream that changed the direction of his life forever.

Tim talks about what it means to suffer well, how pain can build humility, character, and godly integrity, and why the fruit God produces through suffering is not just for you, but for the people around you.

The conversation also goes deep on leadership, criticism, and what it looks like to keep your hands and heart clean when you are being attacked. Tim shares how he navigated one of the most painful church transitions imaginable, why he refused to clap back, and why he believes you cannot let pain, frustration, or public opinion speak for you.

They also talk about the idols of comfort and the fear of man, the character it takes to lead well, the importance of suffering with your eyes fixed on Jesus, and why the decisions you make are ultimately making you.

The guys also get into football, the Jacksonville Jaguars, Travis Hunter’s baptism, what culture really means inside a locker room, and how God can use influence, pain, leadership, and obedience for something much bigger than yourself.

If you are walking through pain, criticism, leadership pressure, spiritual warfare, or a season you never would have chosen, this episode is for you.

In this episode of Built 4 More, Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin sit down with Garrett Gross. Garrett is an ex MMA fighter, gym owner, father, and one of the most unlikely men to be doing what he's doing today.For 15 years, Garrett competed as a professional MMA fighter while losing a fight off the mat that had nothing to do with the sport. He tried to fix it, but kept falling. He started to wonder if this was just who he was.Then one morning everything changed. Not because of a program or a plan. Just a parking lot, a quiet moment, and a God who had been working in his life long before Garrett was ready to admit it.Three years later, Garrett is running an MMA gym in small town Illinois that's become an actual mission field. Men are showing up and encountering Christ. A weekly Bible study is forming the kind of community most churches struggle to build, and he's leveraging the way God wired him to reach people the church was never going to reach on its own.Whether you're in the middle of your own fight or trying to figure out what God is doing with the pieces of your past this one will speak directly to where you are.

For the first time, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson bring their wives into the studio. Gretchen Martin and Angie Thompson sit down to answer questions submitted by listeners on marriage, motherhood, ministry, and everything in between. Joby and Gretchen have been married 26 years. Denny and Angie have been married 28. Between them they've planted a church, built a quarterback training business, raised four kids, and walked through seasons that nothing about looked like the plan.In this episode, Gretchen gives the behind the scenes of building The Church of Eleven22 from the ground up. And Angie gives the behind the scenes of Denny building one of the premiere quarterback training businesses in the country.The conversation goes deep on what the Bible actually says about submission and respect. Why secrets are exhausting. What it looks like to pray out loud over your spouse. And the "do over" hack that changed the way Joby and Gretchen work through conflict.

Scott Hanson has one of the most recognizable jobs in American sports. As the host of NFL Red Zone, he speaks to more people on Sunday than almost anyone on the planet. More Americans will spend time watching NFL football this weekend than they will sitting in a church. Scott knows that better than anyone.But behind the highlight reels and the touchdown calls was a guy who had made his career his god and still could not shake the feeling that something was missing.In this episode, Scott sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson and opens up about hitting the lowest point of his life at 25 years old, when a broken relationship cost him everything he thought he had. His personal life. His professional life. All of it at once.What happened next started with a random trip to Blockbuster Video, a movie about Jesus, and a football coach in Springfield, Illinois who refused to be ashamed of the name of Jesus on a Friday night. Scott had no idea that coach's faithfulness was about to change his life forever.The conversation also goes deep on what God is doing through the NFL right now, why young men are turning back to faith, and what it actually looks like to be salt and light when 10 million people are watching.

Rich Froning is the most decorated athlete in CrossFit history. 4 individual titles. Multiple team championships. A legacy that the sport has never seen before and may never see again. But behind all of it was a guy who kept winning and kept wondering why it wasn't enough.

In this episode, Rich sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson and opens up about what it actually felt like to be the best in the world. The obsession it took to get there. The emptiness that followed every gold medal. And the moment faith stopped being something he grew up around and became something he actually lived.

Rich also shares the story of how he and his wife walked through years of unexplained infertility, how God used a pregnancy clinic in Cookville, Tennessee to bring them their first daughter, and how that one moment changed the entire direction of his life. All three of his kids are adopted. None of it was the plan. All of it was God.

The conversation also goes deep on what Rich is building now. A men's discipleship group out of his barn on Saturday mornings. A faith driven gym culture that doesn't apologize for the name of Jesus. And what it looks like to trade competing for yourself for something that actually lasts.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with David Nasser on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

David Nasser was born in Iran and lived through the 1979 Islamic Revolution as a child. His family escaped with nothing, eventually landing in small town Alabama as refugees during one of the most anti-Iranian moments in American history. He was bullied, outcasted, and had no plan, until a friend invited him to church from the passenger seat of a car at midnight.

What happened next is one of the most remarkable stories of God's sovereignty you will ever hear.

David opens up about what it actually looks like to grow up as the enemy in your own country and then become the enemy in your new one and how God was holding him through all of it without him knowing.

The conversation also goes deep on what God is doing in Iran right now. The underground church there is the fastest growing church in the world, and David breaks down what that actually means, what it costs the people living it, and why this moment in history may be the greatest open door for the gospel the Middle East has ever seen.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Tim Tebow on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Tim Tebow is one of the most decorated college football players in history. Heisman Trophy winner, two national championships, first round NFL draft pick, and he has been one of the most publicly outspoken Christians in the history of American sports.

Tim opens up about what it actually looks like to keep Christ on the throne when bitterness creeps in and your plans do not go the way you expected.

The conversation also goes deep on the fight Tim has given his life to outside of football. Right now more than 50 million people are being trafficked globally and more than 400 million children will be exploited or sexually abused this year alone. Tim breaks down what the Renewed Hope Act is, why Congress needs to move faster, and what every single person listening can do right now to help. He also gets into how to protect your own children from threats most parents do not even know exist.

Tim also walks through his new book If The Tree Could Speak, how it came to him in the middle of the night, and why the perspective of the cross itself might be the most powerful entry point into the gospel you have never considered.

If The Tree Could Speak: https://timtebow.com/tree/

In this episode of Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down for a powerful and unfiltered Q and A covering some of the most real questions people wrestle with in their faith and everyday life. From wondering if you are truly hearing God’s voice to feeling the pressure of parenting and questioning if you are getting it right, this conversation goes straight at the things many people think but do not always say out loud. Joby and Denny unpack what the Bible actually says about hearing from God, why it can feel confusing at times, and how faith is often less about waiting for a perfect answer and more about trusting God with your next step.

They also dive into the weight many parents carry to raise their kids the right way and why your mistakes do not disqualify you. In fact, some of the most powerful lessons your kids will learn come from watching you own your failures, repent, and keep going. This episode also challenges the idea that you need to have everything figured out before you move forward and reminds you that God has already given you more direction than you think. When you feel stuck, unsure, or disconnected, the answer is not always more clarity but more obedience with what is right in front of you.

If you have ever felt like God is silent, struggled to make a decision, or questioned whether you are doing enough in your faith, this episode will meet you right where you are. It is honest, practical, and rooted in truth, reminding you that you were made for more and that following Jesus does not require perfection, just surrender and a willingness to take the next step.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with 7x New York Times bestselling author Jon Gordon on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Jon Gordon didn't set out to become a bestselling author. He set out to survive. After losing his job, taking a second mortgage on his home, and maxing out $20,000 in credit cards to open a Moe's Southwest Grill in Jacksonville, Florida, he was crumbling from the inside out.

What followed was one of the most unlikely faith journeys you'll ever hear. A new ager and Buddhist meditator who cried out to God in desperation, saw a literal roadside sign that said "Jesus is the Answer," and had a Buddhist energy healer accidentally explain the gospel to him in a way that finally made everything click.

Jon opens up about the season where he was failing as a husband and father and what happened when he finally surrendered that to Jesus. He talks about the walk of gratitude that started his transformation, how his faith completely rebuilt his marriage, his family, and his calling, and why he considers God the author of every book he has ever written.

The conversation goes deep on leadership and culture too. Jon shares what happened when he spent six hours with Jaguars head coach Liam Coen building the culture that fueled Jacksonville's turnaround this season, why the best leaders in the world never stop taking notes, and the one mindset shift that separates leaders who perform under pressure from those who don't.

In this episode of Built 4 More, Devin Lloyd sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson for a powerful conversation about faith, identity, and purpose just hours after signing with the Carolina Panthers in NFL free agency. Devin shares what it was like navigating the emotional roller coaster of free agency, leaving the Jacksonville Jaguars after four seasons, and stepping into a new chapter of his career in the NFL.

They discuss the pressure that comes with professional sports, the highs and lows of competing at the highest level, and how Devin learned to anchor his identity in Christ rather than in football or performance.

The conversation dives into Devin’s journey from college football at University of Utah to becoming a first round NFL draft pick and one of the top linebackers in the league. Devin explains the mindset required to play linebacker in the NFL, the discipline and preparation that separate great players from good ones, and how film study, nutrition, consistency, and daily habits shape success on and off the field. He also shares the story of how injuries and adversity early in his career pushed him to deepen his relationship with Jesus and ultimately changed the way he views competition, leadership, and life.

Throughout the episode, the conversation turns to what it truly means to live with purpose, how faith brings clarity and freedom from the opinions of others, and why understanding God’s approval allows you to play and live with confidence. Devin talks about gratitude, humility, leadership in the locker room, and the importance of surrounding yourself with people who help you grow spiritually and personally. If you are searching for purpose, dealing with pressure, or trying to understand how faith and success intersect, this conversation will challenge and encourage you to see your life through a bigger perspective.

Pastor Joby Martin, Denny Thompson, and Joshua Broome dive into a wide range of questions about faith, purpose, identity, and what it means to follow Jesus in real life.

This conversation explores some of the deeper questions many people wrestle with in their spiritual journey. Topics include trusting God when the future feels unclear, navigating seasons where God feels silent, and learning how to make wise decisions when you do not feel certain about the next step. The episode also looks at the role of faith in everyday life and how believers can continue growing spiritually through different seasons.

The discussion also touches on discipleship, relationships, leadership, and the importance of surrounding yourself with people who help strengthen your walk with Christ. It explores how identity in Jesus shapes the way we live, the way we make decisions, and the way we pursue purpose.

Throughout the episode, the conversation centers on practical Christian living and how faith influences areas like calling, personal growth, sharing your faith with others, and developing a deeper relationship with God.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Joshua Broome for a conversation about forgiveness identity and what it actually means to be free from your past. Joshua shares how growing up without a relationship with his father led him on a lifelong pursuit of affirmation acceptance and approval. That pursuit slowly shaped the decisions he made and the direction his life took as he chased performance success and validation in an effort to feel like he was enough. Over time what began as a search for identity turned into a life defined by shame as the things he had done became the lens through which he saw himself.

Together they talk about how shame convinces us that what we have done is who we are and how that belief keeps us stuck in cycles of striving condemnation and isolation. This episode explores why so many people struggle to believe they are actually forgiven even after hearing the gospel and how condemnation can continue to shape our identity long after our sin has been paid for. Pastor Joby and Denny unpack the difference between behavior modification and heart transformation and explain why real freedom begins when we stop trying to earn approval and start living from the identity we have already been given in Christ.

Joshua shares how the renewing of his mind through Scripture discipleship and community allowed him to understand that forgiveness is not just about avoiding punishment but about being made new. They discuss why confession leads to healing how loneliness fuels addiction and why the finished work of Jesus means our past is not something we have to manage hide or overcome on our own. This conversation is about redemption grace and the truth that in Christ your past is no longer held against you. Because of the cross forgiveness is not a future promise but a present reality and your identity is no longer defined by what you have done but by what Jesus has done for you.

In this episode of the Built 4 More Podcast, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson answer one of the most common questions we receive: How do you know if you are living in God’s calling? And what if your job does not feel “spiritual” at all?

From welders to pastors, quarterback trainers, and business owners, this conversation dives into the truth that your calling is not reserved for a stage. It is lived out in the everyday work God has entrusted to you. Pastor Joby explains why chasing “passion” can actually be misleading, how the skills God has given you are meant to be stewarded for His glory, and why doing excellent work in any field can be sacred when it is done unto the Lord. Whether you are struggling with identity in your job, feeling discontent in your current season, or wondering if there is something more you are meant to do, this episode offers clarity on the difference between Godly ambition and selfish ambition and how to move forward in obedience without abandoning responsibility.

They also unpack how seasons of preparation are never wasted, why God often uses the ordinary to prepare us for the extraordinary, and how your desires may begin to change as your mind is renewed through Scripture and community. You will hear how launching this podcast has challenged Denny’s own faith and forced him to move from being someone who simply listens to the Word to someone who lives it out daily.

Plus, the conversation shifts into marriage and what it really means to honor the covenant you made with God and your spouse, how forgiveness and grace are essential to lasting relationships, and why love is less about feelings and more about commitment, sacrifice, and daily work. From learning to lead your family while still pursuing what God has put on your heart, to navigating big life decisions in unity, this episode provides practical wisdom for men who want to live faithfully at work and at home.

If you have ever felt confused about purpose, stuck between provision and passion, or afraid that you might miss what God is calling you to next, this conversation is for you.

Your calling might be closer than you think.

At 12 years old, Jake Olson woke up from surgery knowing he would never see again. After battling cancer for most of his childhood, doctors had run out of options. Removing his remaining eye was the only way to save his life. In an instant, everything changed. He went from being a normal middle school kid who loved sports to learning how to read Braille, relearn how to socialize, and figure out how to live in a world he could no longer see. But what happened next is what makes his story unforgettable. Jake made a decision in that moment that most people never make he refused to become a victim of his circumstances. Instead of letting blindness take the life he loved from him, he chose to fight for it.

After losing his sight, Jake made a promise to himself that blindness wasn’t going to rob him of the things he loved. Years later, that promise would lead him back onto the football field, first as a high school player, and eventually as a walk-on long snapper at USC. Despite being completely blind, Jake earned the trust of his coaches and teammates and went on to take the snap in a Division 1 college football game, something he once believed would only be possible if he kept his eyesight. What once looked like the end of his story became the beginning of a purpose far greater than he could have imagined.

This conversation is about adversity, identity, and the reality that every person faces a moment where they have to choose whether they will live resentful… or fight on. Jake shares how gratitude became his first step out of victimhood, how hardship can either make you bitter or build your faith, and why circumstances don’t have the power to define the life you’re capable of living. If you’ve ever felt stuck, discouraged, or defined by something that happened to you, this episode will challenge the way you think about what’s actually possible with the life you’ve been given and remind you that even when life doesn’t go according to plan, your story is far from over.

In this episode of Built 4 More, Dylan Mandell joins Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson for a powerful and hope filled conversation about unwavering faith and a life fully surrendered to God.

Dylan faced cancer four times, but his story is not one of doubt or drifting faith. It is a testimony of a young man whose confidence in God only deepened through suffering. Pain did not cause him to question God’s goodness. It revealed it. Each battle stripped away self reliance and strengthened his trust in God.

This episode explores what it looks like to live with unshakable hope, to believe God’s promises without needing clarity, and to walk forward knowing that purpose is often formed through hardship. They talk about identity in Christ, the power of surrender, and why suffering does not stop God’s plan but often sharpens it.

This is an encouraging and faith filled reminder that God is present in every trial, that endurance produces strength, and that a life anchored in Christ can stand firm no matter how many storms come.

If you are facing adversity, walking through pain, or needing a reminder that real faith does not waver when life gets hard, this episode will strengthen you.

Denny and Joby sit down for a raw Q&A on faith, work, leadership, and what it actually looks like to follow Jesus when life is demanding and you keep falling short.

They talk about calling and career, why failure doesn’t disqualify you, and why repentance and responsibility are non-negotiable for growth.

They go straight at leadership, coaching, fatherhood, influence, and integrity, why competence matters, why serving people beats using them, and why you can’t lead anyone where you’re not willing to go yourself.

They address sin, scars, discipline, culture, politics, and discernment with clarity and conviction, calling men to stop drifting, stop blaming, and start owning their lives.

This episode is about daily obedience, choosing the harder path, being present where your feet are, and trusting God with the results.

If you’re frustrated with yourself but still hungry to grow, this conversation will hit home.

Ty Kelly joins Built 4 More for a real conversation about faith, family, identity, and what it looks like to lead when life gets heavy. Ty is a Jacksonville local who went from being a baseball phenom where the game became his identity, to building a massive social media platform by making people laugh, and then learning the hard way that attention can’t be the thing that drives you. He opens up about marrying his high school sweetheart, raising three kids, and how God used parenting to make grace real to him, not performance based religion, but a deeper understanding of what it means to be loved by the Father.Ty also shares the most difficult season of their marriage when his wife Haley faced major preventative surgeries due to a genetic cancer risk, and what it required of him as a husband, a dad, and a man who finally had to admit he could not do it on his own. The episode gets into the pressure of social media, the desire to be liked, the reality of being attacked online, and how those moments exposed what he was building his identity on. More than anything, Ty keeps coming back to the same point: the platform most people are praying for is usually already right in front of them, in their home, their marriage, their kids, and their day to day faithfulness. If you’re chasing purpose, wrestling with identity, or trying to become the man God is calling you to be right where you are, this one will hit.

In this episode of Built 4 More, Lysa TerKeurst sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson for a raw and honest conversation about pain, betrayal, faith, and trusting God when life does not turn out the way you planned. Lysa opens up about walking through deep personal adversity, seasons of heartbreak, and the tension of loving God while wrestling with unanswered questions. This is not surface level encouragement. It is about what faith really looks like when disappointment hits close to home.

The conversation dives into how to keep your heart soft when you have every reason to shut down, how to lead yourself through grief without letting bitterness take root, and why healing often takes longer than we want it to. Lysa shares hard earned wisdom on boundaries, obedience, forgiveness, and what it means to stay anchored in truth when emotions are loud and circumstances feel overwhelming.

Together, they unpack how adversity exposes what we truly believe about God, how to walk through pain without letting it define you, and why faithfulness in the middle of the struggle matters more than having everything figured out. This episode is for anyone navigating loss, broken trust, or a season where the future feels unclear. If you are trying to hold on to your faith while carrying real hurt, this conversation will meet you where you are and point you forward.

In this episode, we sit down with Rebecca Maxwell for a powerful conversation on Jesus and mental health and why real growth requires both faith and intentional healing.

Rebecca shares what led her into ministry and family therapy, how God shaped her calling, and the role she played in building The Church of Eleven22 Kids Ministry. We talk about why Christian therapy, rooted in a biblical worldview, helps people develop the tools needed to grow, lead, and live with purpose, not just cope.

This conversation challenges the fear around therapy and reframes it as a process of transformation. We explore why healing often requires going back to the past in order to move forward, how identity and worth must be rooted in Christ rather than performance, and why continued growth and change are essential to a healthy life of faith.

Rebecca also explains how the 12 steps of AA apply to every person, not just those in recovery, and how they point us toward freedom, joy, and dependence on Christ instead of circumstances or people.

If your life feels overly shaped by outcomes, expectations, or other people, this episode is an invitation to step into lasting transformation spiritually, mentally, and emotionally.

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Built 4 More is back with Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin for a raw, honest conversation about real faith, real growth, and real change. This episode dives deep into the sin, repen, repeat cycle and why remorse alone never leads to freedom. Pastor Joby breaks down what biblical repentance actually means, how your mind gets renewed, and why wisdom, boundaries, and accountability matter if you want lasting transformation.

The conversation expands into leadership at home, parenting talented kids without turning their gift into their identity, and why discipline and discomfort are often the tools God uses to shape strong men and families. They also talk about what happens in your darkest moments, how taking responsibility changes everything, and why isolation is one of the most dangerous lies men believe.

If you’ve been feeling stuck, numb, frustrated with surface level faith, or unsure what God is doing in your life right now, this episode brings clarity, conviction, and direction. This is about becoming who God designed you to be, leading well, and living with purpose instead of drifting.

Dr. Matt Carter, pastor, church planter, and now part of the teaching team at The Church of Eleven22, joins Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin for a powerful conversation on what it truly costs to carry responsibility. From discipling Colt McCoy through a Heisman run at Texas to planting one of the fastest growing churches in the country, Matt’s story is one of calling, surrender, and learning the hard way that success always comes with weight. He opens up about his time building The Austin Stone from scratch, the growth, the pressure, and the unseen spiritual toll that comes with leading something big for God. Then he shares the moment everything changed, a 99% heart blockage that forced him to slow down, reevaluate his purpose, and finally let go of being “the guy.”

This episode dives deep into the difference between confidence and dependence, between a quarterback’s mindset and a pastor’s calling. Matt and Joby talk about how leadership isn’t about control, it’s about obedience. They break down how to build teams that raise the lid instead of holding it, how to live in rhythms that fill instead of drain, and how to keep your soul healthy when the responsibility feels heavier than you imagined. The conversation turns toward faith, Christmas, and the reminder that even when life doesn’t go as planned, God’s still in control, just like He was when He chose a teenage girl in Nazareth to carry the Savior of the world.

If you’ve ever felt the pressure of leading, building, or providing, this episode will hit home. It’s about surrendering your plans, trusting God’s hand in the middle of the unknown, and remembering that real strength is found in dependence, not in doing it all yourself.

In this episode, we sit down with DR Meadows for a wide ranging conversation that moves between fatherhood, leadership, and life as a Savannah Bananas. DR Meadows reflects on what it means to be present as a father while navigating demanding seasons of work, life, and responsibility, sharing honest insight into how priorities shift when family comes first.

We also recap the Savannah Bananas season and the culture that has made the team one of the most compelling stories in sports. From the joy and pressure of the spotlight to what’s happening behind the scenes, DR Meadows talks what made this season special and what it taught him about teamwork, humility, and consistency.

This conversation goes deeper than baseball. It’s about showing up, leading well, and understanding that success is ultimately measured by who you are at home and how you invest in the people who matter most. Whether you’re a parent, a sports fan, or someone trying to balance ambition with purpose, this episode offers perspective that sticks with you long after it ends.

Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin sit down for a real conversation about football, marriage, leadership, and the identity that holds a man together. They start with the intensity of the college football season and the unexpected storylines from the playoff race, but the episode quickly shifts into the deeper places where most men actually live. Denny opens up about the season when his marriage was essentially over and how God used suffering, honesty, confession, and spiritual clarity to rebuild something stronger than before. Joby unpacks why most marriages break at the level of identity, why men so often focus on what they are not getting instead of who they are becoming, and why the triangle picture of husband wife and Jesus changes everything about how a home functions.They talk about what it means to lead with service, not entitlement, and how gratitude from a wife fuels a man in a way nothing else can. They discuss the spiritual reality that identity comes before activity and why men perform better and love better when they know who they are in Christ. The conversation moves through parenting, family rhythms, homeschooling decisions, work pressure, the myth of balance, and the truth about intensity and rest. Both share stories of failure, growth, and the clarity that comes when you stop fighting for approval and start living from the approval God has already given.This episode is for the man who wants to win at work and at home without losing himself in the process. It is for anyone who has ever felt the pressure to perform, the weight of leadership, or the tension between the grind and the relationships that matter most. It is honest, practical, and rooted in the belief that men are called to more and built for more.

Rece Davis sits down with Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin for one of the most personal and meaningful conversations of his career. The ESPN College GameDay host opens up about the family roots, character, and convictions that shaped him long before he ever stepped onto a broadcast set. He reflects on the early sacrifices, the unexpected doors that opened, and the steady foundation that kept him grounded as he grew into one of the most respected voices in sports.

In this episode, Rece shares how his journey through ESPN has been more than a professional climb. It has been a continual commitment to staying present as a husband and father while navigating an industry that rarely slows down. He speaks honestly about the challenges of balancing national visibility with the responsibility of leading his home well, and how the principles instilled in him early on have carried him through seasons of pressure, travel, and intense public demand.

Rece also pulls back the curtain on some of his favorite College GameDay memories, from moments with Nick Saban and legendary coaches to behind the scenes stories with the on air team that has become a second family. He talks about what truly anchors him off camera, the deeper calling that shapes his decisions, and the perspective he has gained from decades of living with conviction, humility, and gratitude.

This episode offers a rare and refreshing look at the man behind one of sports media’s most trusted voices, delivering a conversation filled with wisdom, humor, and heart. If you have ever wondered what drives Rece Davis beyond the lights, the stadiums, and the broadcasts, this is the story that reveals it.

Join Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin as they sit down with Brad Nortman. Brad is a former Carolina Panthers punter, Wisconsin Badgers standout, ESPN Madison host, and devoted father.

In this episode, Brad opens up about his journey from college football to the NFL, the moment he got drafted, and how his time in Carolina shaped him both on and off the field. He shares hilarious and powerful stories from his Wisconsin days, his transition into broadcasting, and the unexpected path that led him to ESPN Madison.

Brad also walks through the deeply personal side of his life such as adopting children, becoming a father, and building a home rooted in faith, discipline, and intentional leadership.

This conversation is packed with wisdom, real-life lessons, and the type of honesty that defines what it means to be Built 4 More.

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Baltimore Orioles pitcher Tyler Wells sits down with Built 4 More to talk openly about loss, injury, identity, fatherhood, pressure, prayer, and the moment God completely redirected his life.

In this conversation, Tyler shares the parts of his story most fans never hear, losing his mom at four years old, the defining game after his grandmother passed, the loneliness of the minor leagues, the anxiety of the big leagues, and the unexpected injury that God used to reshape his marriage, faith, and purpose.

Tyler also breaks down the mindset behind pitching, the shift from reliever to starter, the mental battles athletes rarely discuss, and how becoming a father changed everything about the way he sees baseball.

This episode is raw, honest, and centered on what matters most: faith, character, and calling.

When a UFC Hall of Famer and an NFL quarterback sit down to talk about faith, pain, and redemption, you get more than a sports interview. You get a rescue story.

In this powerful Built 4 More episode, Matt Corral opens up about isolation, identity, and the moment everything shifted, when Vitor Belfort stepped in as a brother, mentor, and disciple and led him to Christ. What started as a 7 am workout turned into a walk with Jesus, accountability, and a new purpose.

Vitor, one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time, shares the part of his story most people don’t know: the fear, the temptation, the emptiness of fame, and the moment God moved him from “me” to “we.” Pastor Joby Martin brings biblical clarity, why pain and suffering form perseverance; why transformation is “be transformed by the renewal of your mind” why the fruit of the Spirit can’t be manufactured, only produced by abiding in Jesus.

This is a conversation about identity, manhood, discipline, and hope, for anyone who’s ever felt like they blew their shot, or had everything and still felt empty. If you’re an athlete, a coach, a dad, or just a man who knows you were Built for More, this one is for you.

Matt Corral finally opens up about everything. The pressure, the pain, and the purpose behind his journey from five-star high school phenom to NFL quarterback to walking away from the New England Patriots with no plan and no peace. In this unfiltered interview, the former Ole Miss star and Carolina Panthers draft pick sits down with Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin to talk through the parts of his story he’s never told publicly: the headlines that followed him since high school, the injuries that derailed his draft stock, the media stories that twisted the truth, and the silent mental-health battle that nearly ended everything.

Matt shares how UFC legend Vitor Belfort stepped in at just the right moment, training him physically while discipling him spiritually and how that encounter introduced him to real faith, grace, and the freedom that changed his entire life. He walks through the moment he saw Bill Belichick on his way out of the Patriots facility, what it felt like to hit rock bottom, how therapy and Scripture started to rebuild him from the inside out, and why he now sees his career as a tool in God’s hands instead of an identity.

Pastor Joby breaks down how fear and control cripple men, how faith produces action, and how grace transforms even the toughest stories. This conversation is raw, redemptive, and full of moments that will leave you reflecting on your own purpose. If you’ve ever battled anxiety, shame, or identity tied to performance, this one will hit home.

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David Pollack, Georgia Bulldog legend and former ESPN analyst, joins the Built 4 More Podcast for one of the most powerful conversations yet. In this episode, David opens up about the moments that shaped his faith, his family, and his purpose far beyond the football field.

He shares the inside story of his career-defining play at Georgia, the injury that ended his NFL career, and the transformation that followed. David also reflects on how Coach Mark Richt helped lead him to Christ, what he learned when everything he built was stripped away, and how his wife’s brain cancer diagnosis became a testimony of faith, healing, and strength.

This conversation goes beyond stats and headlines. It’s about what it means to walk through pain, surrender control, and lead your family with faith when life doesn’t go as planned. From the locker room to the living room, David’s honesty and conviction reveal the kind of leadership that’s built to last.

Hosted by Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson, Built 4 More shares stories of faith, leadership, and purpose from athletes and coaches who are living it out every day.

Subscribe for more faith-driven conversations with leaders, coaches, and athletes who are building something that lasts.

Most NFL careers last three years. Tyler Shatley made it eleven.

Undrafted. Overlooked. Undeniably consistent.

Tyler has been in the trenches of the NFL for more than a decade  through regime changes, new quarterbacks, coaching overhauls, and a lifetime of hits that would’ve broken most men. But through it all, he’s stayed grounded in his purpose, his discipline, and his belief that how you live matters more than how you play.

In this conversation, Denny Thompson and Joby Martin sit down with Tyler to unpack what it really takes to last in the league how he found strength through years of uncertainty, what the locker room has taught him about leadership and integrity, and what he’s learned about success, family, and staying faithful when no one’s watching.

This isn’t just about football.

It’s about the kind of mindset that lasts.

Masculinity isn’t toxic. It’s just been twisted. In this episode, Pastor Joby and Denny sit down to talk about what it actually means to be a man and why Joby’s new book Stand Firm and Act Like Men: Becoming the Man You Were Created to Be Instead of Who the World Says You Are is a much needed message in a culture that’s confused about manhood.

They talk about the real things: why so many men feel lost, how culture has diluted strength, and what the Bible actually says about being a man. Not the loudest guy in the room. Not a watered down version of leadership. But a man who’s grounded, surrendered, and built for more.

Pastor Joby shares what led him to write the book, why 1 Corinthians 16:13 hits so hard today, and how we can raise up a generation of men who know who they are and who they belong to.

Order Joby Martin’s new book here: https://jobymartin.com/books/stand-firm

What really happens when an NFL player gets cut, claimed, and has to move cities in 24 hours? Former Jacksonville Jaguars linebacker Chad Muma sits down with Denny Thompson and Joby Martin to share the inside story of his sudden move to the Indianapolis Colts, the emotions of getting released, and the lessons learned on and off the field.

Chad opens up about the moment he was told to “bring in your iPad,” the whirlwind of leaving Jacksonville overnight, and the challenge of starting fresh in a new city. He talks about the support of his wife during one of the hardest days of his career, the reality of battling type 1 diabetes as a pro athlete, and how setbacks have shaped him into the man he is today.

This is more than a football story. It’s a look at identity, perseverance, and what it takes to keep moving forward when the game changes. Whether you’re a Jags fan, Colts fan, or just love real conversations with athletes, this episode is a powerful reminder that the NFL is about more than highlight reels.

Kyle Thompson is the founder of Undaunted Life, a movement built to equip men to push back darkness by forging spiritual, mental, and physical resilience.

What started in a closet studio has become one of the boldest platforms speaking into faith, masculinity, and culture today.

In this episode, Kyle shares his story, from training in jiu-jitsu and navigating career changes to launching a brand built on biblical values and stepping fully into his calling. He talks about the early days of Undaunted Life, why men in the Church are struggling, and how we recover strength that’s rooted in truth.

We dive into controversial topics like the loss of masculinity, standing firm in today’s culture, and what it means to be resilient in a world that wants you to be weak. Kyle also shares stories from behind the mic, including his experience with Phil Robertson and others who have shaped his voice and mission.

This is a call to wake up, lead boldly, and build something that lasts. Kyle Thompson is Built 4 More and he’s raising the bar for men everywhere.

Maurice Williams knows what it means to lead on and off the field. From playing for the Jacksonville Jaguars to becoming their team chaplain, and now serving as the head coach at Providence High School, Maurice’s story is marked by more than football, it’s marked by faithfulness.

In this episode, he shares what it was like to play in Jacksonville, how he was called into ministry while still in the league, and why he believes coaching is one of the most powerful platforms for the Gospel. Whether it’s inside an NFL locker room or a high school weight room, Maurice is helping young men become who God created them to be.

This conversation covers leadership, identity, the pressures athletes face, and how to stay grounded when the world says your worth is based on performance. It’s about using your influence well, showing up for the next generation, and remembering Who you’re doing it for.

Maurice Williams is Built 4 More and he’s building others for more, too.

When life hits hard, through injuries, setbacks, guilt, or pressure, how do you hold onto joy that doesn’t shake?

In this episode of Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson break down the difference between happiness and lasting joy, and how it’s possible to walk through trials with peace, purpose, and resilience.

They unpack what true discipleship looks like in everyday life, how generosity brings freedom, and why the people you surround yourself with can either drain you or help carry you.

Through lessons from the NFL, their own families, and honest conversations about comparison, leadership, and pain, this episode is a reminder that real joy doesn’t come from what you have, but who you're anchored to.

If you’ve ever asked, “How do I find joy when life falls apart?”, this one’s for you.

You’ve seen him go viral tackling massive gators in the streets of Florida, but there’s a whole lot more to Mike Dragich than the alligator wrangler title.

In this episode, Mike shares his story, how he went from serving as a Marine and fighting in MMA cages to becoming Florida’s most recognized alligator trapper. But beneath the viral clips and adrenaline is a man who’s been through so much more. After being shot and nearly losing his life, everything changed. He experienced a miraculous healing, surrendered his life to Jesus, and found a mission greater than survival.

Today, Mike is the founder of Project Savior Outdoors, a nonprofit fighting PTSD and veteran suicide by connecting warriors with the outdoors and the true freedom that only comes through Christ.

We talk about his wildest gator encounters, his childhood, how trauma led to transformation, the weight of losing fellow Marines, and why he’ll never stop pointing others to the hope that saved him.

Colt McCoy’s story is one of talent, toughness, and total surrender. From a small town in West Texas to becoming one of the most decorated quarterbacks in University of Texas history, Colt’s football legacy speaks for itself. But this episode is about more than stats and stadiums, it’s about the faith that shaped him, the family he chose to prioritize, and the quiet strength it takes to walk away from the game you love.

After 14 years in the NFL, Colt shares the story behind his retirement, the injury that led him there, and why he turned down coaching offers to be more present as a husband and father. He opens up about being discipled in college, how God "wrecked him" in the best way at age 20, and what it means to build a business and a life anchored in biblical truth.

From locker rooms to boardrooms, Colt McCoy is still leading and he is still Built 4 More.

Luke Parker’s journey has been anything but ordinary. From college baseball to national attention on The Bachelorette, he went from chasing a dream to being thrown into the spotlight, and the fire that came with it. Criticized, misunderstood, and labeled, Luke could’ve let the world define him. Instead, he let it refine him.

In this episode, Luke opens up about the pressure of fame, the weight of public backlash, and the faith that carried him through it all. He shares what it was like to walk through that season with conviction, how God used it to shape who he is today, and what life looks like now as a husband, father, and CrossFit competitor.

This conversation is raw, honest, and packed with truth, for anyone who's been through the fire and wondered if there was more on the other side. Because when your identity is anchored in Christ, the world doesn't get the final say.

Luke Parker is Built 4 More and God’s not done with his story yet.

Dave Campo’s coaching career has spanned over four decades, from high school sidelines to college stadiums to the heart of the NFL. Best known for his time with the Dallas Cowboys during one of the most iconic eras in football, Campo served as both defensive coordinator and head coach, helping lead teams to Super Bowl victories and through seasons of tough transition.

But what defines Coach Campo isn’t just the wins, it’s the wisdom that’s come from a lifetime in the game. In this episode, he reflects on the relationships from the beginning, the pressure, the leadership lessons, and the moments most people never see. He shares stories from inside some of the greatest organizations, what it really takes to lead at the highest level, and how life, family, faith, and character, has always mattered more than the scoreboard.

This isn’t just about football. It’s about legacy, resilience, and staying grounded no matter how big the stage. Whether you’re a coach, a player, or someone chasing greatness in your own life, you’ll want to hear this.

Logan Cooke’s story is rooted in small town Mississippi, growing up hunting, crafting turkey calls in college, and dreaming of Saturdays in the SEC. That dream became a reality when he landed at Mississippi State, but it didn’t stop there. Now, as the longtime punter for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Logan has proven time and time again that he’s their guy.

In this episode, Logan sits down to share his full journey, from not knowing what the next step would be to NFL moments that still feel surreal. He talks about the lessons the woods taught him, what it meant to play in the SEC, and how staying grounded in faith and family helped shape him as a man, a player, and a father.

Spencer Danielson’s journey to head coach of Boise State wasn’t handed to him, it was built through faith, grit, and a calling bigger than football. After joining the program as a graduate assistant, he worked his way up through the ranks with relentless energy, humility, and a deep conviction to lead the right way. Now as the head coach, he’s not just focused on wins, he’s focused on building men, shaping culture, and keeping Christ at the center of it all.

In this episode, Coach Danielson shares what it means to bring faith into the locker room, how his role as a husband and father shapes how he leads, and why staying grounded in the little things matters most. It’s a conversation about identity, pressure, purpose, and the quiet moments that reveal what you’re really made

Mike Brown was never the most recruited, never the most talked about, but he was always the one who outworked everyone in the room. From Grand Rapids, Michigan, to Miami of Ohio, to earning his spot in the NFL as an undrafted free agent, Mike’s story is built on grit, discipline, and a deeper purpose.

He shares what it was like being a defensive back in a linebacker’s body, constantly having to prove he belonged. He opens up about the pressure to be perfect, the mindset it takes to keep pushing when things get hard, and how every decision comes back to one thing, bettering his family and giving his mom the life she deserves.

Now in the league, Mike isn’t slowing down. He’s working even harder, staying ready for every opportunity.

This episode is for anyone who’s been counted out, had to fight for every inch, and still keeps showing up. You don’t have to be the most talented. You just have to be willing to do the work.

Ike Boettger’s football story is anything but ordinary. Born and raised in Iowa, he started his football career as a quarterback before eventually transforming into an NFL offensive lineman, a rare switch that speaks to his grit and adaptability. But his path wasn’t easy. From going undrafted to fighting through major injuries and roster changes, Ike has had every reason to quit, but never did.

In this conversation, Ike opens up about the physical and mental toll of the league, how he stays locked in when everything around him changes, and what keeps him grounded off the field as a husband and father.

We dive into how he’s managed to stay consistent in a world that often values convenience over conviction, and why, as long as he feels called to play, he’ll keep showing up with purpose.

This is a story about toughness, staying true to who you are, and building something that lasts beyond the game.

DR Meadows had just finished his final baseball game, hang up the cleats, and no idea what would come next. Two weeks later, he got the call that would change his life. That call came from the Savannah Bananas.

Now known as “center fielder who backflips”, DR is a fan favorite with one of the most viral teams in baseball.

In this episode, he shares his full story, growing up in small town Georgia, navigating the ups and downs of baseball, and what it felt like to go from almost walking away from the game to becoming part of something bigger than he ever imagined.

We talk about the early days of the Savannah Bananas, how DR’s energy and joy for the game set him apart, and why timing matters more than talent sometimes. It’s a story about being open to the unexpected, and how the best things in life often come after the biggest unknowns.

Carter Bradley joins Built 4 More to talk about the quiet grind, the unseen moments, and what it really means to trust God with the unknown. A coach’s kid who was never coached by his dad, Carter carved his own path, through Toledo, South Alabama, and now onto the Las Vegas Raiders.

After going undrafted, Carter signed with the Raiders, started on the practice squad, and eventually earned his spot on the active roster. Now, as he prepares for what the next NFL season may hold, he opens up about the process, what it’s teaching him about faith, identity, and resilience.

He reflects on key moments from college ball, what it’s like playing in the MAC, why the transfer portal became a pivotal point in his spiritual life, and how he learned to love football for what it is, not just for what it brings. Carter also shares what draft prep really looks like, the mindset it takes to stay ready, and which rookies he believes are about to shock the world.

This episode is for anyone who’s waiting on what’s next, working in the shadows, or learning how to pray like it depends on God and work like it depends on you.

In Episode 14 of Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down for a real, honest conversation about life, faith, and calling. No guests this time, just two guys reflecting on what they’ve learned through past episodes, the questions that have stuck with them, and how they’re walking through real-life challenges today.They unpack the pressures of leading well, staying rooted in identity, navigating marriage, raising a family, and trusting God in the process. This episode is about showing up, even when it’s hard. About leading with integrity. About being built 4 more.If you’re a man of faith trying to live with purpose, this conversation is for you.Subscribe for more weekly episodes on faith, leadership, identity, and what it truly means to be Built 4 More.

In this powerful episode of Built 4 More, NFL quarterback Nate Peterman joins Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin for an honest conversation about faith, adversity, and what it truly means to lead with integrity, on and off the field.Nathan shares the highs and lows of his journey, from growing up a preacher’s kid to starting in the SEC, transferring to Pitt, and eventually making it to the NFL. He reflects on some of the most difficult moments of his career, including a painful NFL debut and the mental toll that followed. Through it all, he remained anchored in his faith, supported by the steady presence of his wife, his dad, and mentors like Derek Carr.This episode is a reminder that true success isn’t defined by stats or headlines, but by perseverance, character, and trusting God’s plan even when it doesn’t make sense. If you’ve ever felt like you’re carrying more than you can handle or questioning what’s next, Nathan’s story will speak directly to you.

Webb Simpson has seen it all, major wins, career pressure, losses & stress, but what grounds him isn’t golf. Webb gets real about what it looks like to live a life built on faith, not fame. 

"I can’t imagine doing this without knowing I’m loved by Jesus."

He opens up about parenting, the shifting landscape of professional golf, and how the hardest moments often bring the deepest growth. Whether you've found your faith early or you’re still figuring it out, Webb’s story will hit home.

Justin James won the World Long Drive Championship with a 435-yard shot and thought everything would change. But when the phone didn’t ring and the spotlight faded, he was left asking: Is this really it?

In this episode of the Built 4 More Podcast, Justin opens up about chasing titles, carrying pressure, and learning that identity isn’t found in winning.

This isn’t just a story about golf. It’s about what happens when you stop chasing approval and start living like everything has already been taken care of.

Patric Young had the kind of career most athletes dream of, Florida Gator standout, pro ball, a future in the game.

Then everything changed.

In this episode, Patric sits down with us to talk about growing up in basketball, what Florida meant to him, and how a single moment forced him to see life through a completely different lens.

He opens up about identity, surrender, and how faith has carried him through the hardest season of his life.

And through it all, he’ still leading, and still saying, “God’s got this.”

This conversation is real, honest, and one we’re proud to share.

This episode isn’t about stats or highlight reels. It’s about what happens when your dream costs you more than you expected. When the pressure to perform replaces your identity.

In this episode of the Built 4 More Podcast, Super Bowl champion and 10-year NFL veteran Josh Wells joins Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin for a powerful conversation about faith, identity, and resilience.

Josh shares what it was like going undrafted, fighting year after year to stay in the league, and the moment he gave his life to Christ, only to suffer a major injury the next day. He talks candidly about pain, doubt, and the long process of becoming a man grounded in something greater than football.

If you’ve ever wondered what’s on the other side of disappointment… if you’ve ever questioned your calling or felt crushed by the weight of your own goals… this episode will speak directly to you.

Jeff Kopp thought he had it all mapped out. Play in the NFL, retire, and move on. But God had a different plan.

Jeff sits down with Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin to walk through his story: from linebacker in the NFL to leading a prison ministry, becoming a pastor, and now serving as a detective in the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office gang unit.

He opens up about getting cut from the league, wrestling with identity, and learning how to trust God’s direction even when the next step didn’t make sense. What started as disappointment became calling. What looked like failure became faith in action. Jeff’s story is raw, real, and full of reminders that God’s plan often takes us where we never expected.

If you’ve ever faced a season of transition, or wondered if God could still use your story, this episode will challenge and encourage you. This is a conversation about leadership, service, and faith when the road ahead is unclear.

Carson Beck opens up for the first time since his season-ending injury and transferring from Georgia to Miami.

The former Georgia quarterback reflects on his time leading one of college football’s most dominant programs. He talks about the challenges of stepping into a high-pressure role, what it was like navigating the highs and lows of the season, and how his injury forced him to reset both physically and mentally.

Now at Miami, Carson shares his mindset heading into this next chapter, the lessons he’s taking with him, and what drives him as a leader on and off the field.

This episode dives into the real side of college football, the decisions, the pressure, the growth, and the work that happens when no one’s watching.

We’re sitting down with Chicago Bears quarterback Austin Reed to talk about what it’s really like coming from the underdog position filled with setbacks, pressure, and trusting God even when the path doesn’t make sense.

Austin opens up about being overlooked early in his career, fighting for a shot at college football, and stepping into the unknown on draft day. He shares the emotions, doubts, and mental battles that come with chasing something bigger than yourself and how faith and family have been the foundation through it all.

This conversation is about more than football. It’s about staying true to who you are when everything around you pushes you to change. It’s about leadership that looks more like service than spotlight. It’s about realizing that real growth doesn’t happen when everything is easy but when you’re willing to get uncomfortable and trust the process.

Austin also shares how marriage and community have helped keep him grounded, why setbacks have taught him more than success ever could, and what it means to find your identity beyond the game.

From Michigan State to Auburn, Payton Thorne’s journey has been anything but easy. He’s led two major programs, faced the highs and lows of big-time college football, and now he’s stepping into a whole new challenge, the NFL Draft process.

In this episode of Built 4 More, Payton opens up about how the rise of NIL has changed college football, what it’s like handling the pressure of big expectations, and how faith and family have kept him grounded through it all.

He also shares how playing multiple sports growing up shaped the way he competes today, the lessons he’s carried with him from each chapter of his life, and why staying true to who you are matters most when everything around you keeps shifting.

This conversation goes beyond football. It’s about trusting God’s plan, staying steady through the unknown, and focusing on the things that actually last when everything else moves fast.

From Gainesville to the NFL, Anthony Richardson’s journey has been defined by resilience, faith, and an unwavering commitment to being the best version of himself. After leading the Florida Gators and being selected 4th overall in the 2023 NFL Draft, he stepped into the league with immense expectations. But his story goes beyond football.

In this episode, Anthony shares what it takes to overcome adversity, handle outside pressure, stay authentic, and lead with faith. He opens up about the challenges of stepping into a NFL quarterback role, the lessons he’s learned through injuries and setbacks, and how trusting God’s plan keeps him grounded.

Anthony’s drive isn’t just about winning—it’s about being a leader, inspiring others, and using his platform for something bigger than himself. This is an inside look at what fuels one of the most exciting young quarterbacks in the NFL.

Brock Purdy’s story isn’t just about football - it’s about faith, patience, and wisdom beyond his years. Brock was overlooked in his college recruitment, drafted last in 2022 as "Mr. Irrelevant," and he was never expected to lead an NFL team. But when his moment came he stepped in with confidence, composure, and unwavering faith, proving that leadership isn’t about status—it’s about who you are when the pressure is on.Now, after leading the San Francisco 49ers to a Super Bowl, Brock continues to inspire both on and off the field. In this conversation, Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin dive deep with Brock on what it means to lead with faith, handle adversity, and trust God’s timing—even when things don’t go as planned.Brock shares how he stays grounded, the wisdom he’s gained through challenges, and why faith has been his anchor in football and in life. He leads his team not just with skill, but with a deep sense of purpose, humility, and belief that God’s plan is bigger than any moment.If you love football, faith, and stories of patience, perseverance, and purpose, this episode is for you.

On this episode of Built 4 More, we’re joined by one of the most respected voices in football—Kirk Herbstreit. As the longtime analyst for ESPN’s College GameDay, a former Ohio State quarterback, and a fixture in the world of college football, Kirk has spent decades breaking down the game at the highest level. But beyond football, he’s also a husband, father, and man of faith, leading with purpose on and off the field.In this conversation,

Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin go beyond the game to talk with Kirk about faith, fatherhood, leadership, and the moments that have defined his journey. He shares personal stories from his career, the values that have shaped him, and what it takes to stay at the top in an ever-changing industry—all while balancing life as a husband, dad, and yes, a devoted golden retriever owner.

If you’re passionate about faith, sports, leadership, and life, this episode is packed with insights, inspiration, and a few great behind-the-scenes stories you won’t want to miss.

Where Faith, Sports, Leadership & Life Collide

Welcome to Built 4 More—the podcast that goes beyond the highlights and headlines to explore what it truly takes to lead, succeed, and grow. Hosted by Denny Thompson, one of the nation’s top quarterback trainers, and Pastor Joby Martin, founder of The Church of Eleven22, this show brings together faith, sports, leadership, and life in powerful conversations that inspire and challenge listeners to step into their purpose.

Featuring elite athletes, top coaches, business leaders, and game-changers, Built 4 More dives deep into faith, resilience, leadership, and the mindset needed to achieve greatness. This podcast is designed for those who refuse to settle and are built for something bigger.

Expect real talk, actionable insights, and inspiring stories from those who have pushed past obstacles to reach new heights—on and off the field. From unlocking mental toughness to embracing faith as a driving force, Built 4 More equips you with the tools to chase your calling with confidence.