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Power House

Power House

HousingWire

The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire's Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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  • 429 - What 2008 taught a billion-dollar lender

    Kevin Rodman spent 24 years at Morgan Stanley, rising from bond trader to partner overseeing mortgage operations as the system came apart in 2008. What separated the survivors from the casualties, he says, was culture and discipline, and a refusal to let one superstar desk run the firm off a cliff. Those lessons now sit at the core of ABL Asset Based Lending, the private lender he helped build into a billion-dollar platform for new construction, fix and flip, and DSCR loans. In this episode, Rodman walks Zeb through ABL's growth from a 2010 post-crash startup to a national platform serving seasoned infill builders, the hard reset that followed when DSCR volume doubled and service times slipped, and how AI is already reshaping the mortgage factory. His read on the next decade: the lenders who win will pair durable capital with modern tech and a culture where everyone thinks like an owner. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Kevin Rodman's LinkedIn Asset Based Lending Buy one, get one FREE tickets to the Mortgage Banking Summit on October 1st Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

    Thu, 17 Sep 2026
  • 428 - Logan Mohtashami's housing market framework, explained

    Logan Mohtashami built his housing market framework out of frustration with online “doom porn.” In this episode, HousingWire's lead analyst walks Zeb Lowe through how it actually works: why the 10-year yield and mortgage spreads matter more than the Fed funds rate, which labor data he watches first, and how he reads purchase apps, pending sales, inventory, and price cuts to judge pricing power. He also makes the case that today's market is structurally healthier than the 2000s bubble, thanks in part to 2005 bankruptcy reform and post-2010 QM rules. Plus, what he's watching for the rest of the year: the Fed's hawk-dove split, labor resilience, and oil risk out of the Strait of Hormuz. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Logan Mohtashami's LinkedIn Buy one, get one FREE tickets to the Mortgage Banking Summit on October 1st Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

    Tue, 15 Sep 2026
  • 427 - Building in the ashes: Land Gorilla is rewiring construction lending

    In this episode of the Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Sean Faries, founder and CEO of Land Gorilla, a company that’s become a quiet force behind construction loan management across the country. Sean walks us through what makes construction lending fundamentally different from a traditional purchase or refi, explaining that you’re really underwriting a future home that doesn’t exist yet. It’s not just credit, income, and assets—you’re evaluating builders, budgets, plans, inspections, draw schedules, lien risk, and the emotional roller coaster between borrower and builder. Sean also opens up about the origin story of Land Gorilla, which started in the aftermath of the financial crisis when he lost his home, lost a business, and moved back in with his parents. After even getting turned down for a “safe” job because he didn’t have a degree, he turned to doing draw inspections himself just to get by. That gritty, boots‑on‑the‑ground work slowly evolved into a SaaS platform at a time when “SaaS” wasn’t even a mainstream term, and while the rest of the industry pulled back from construction lending, he stayed in the space, learning its pain points in depth. We dig into the stigma that still hangs over construction loans and why, in Sean’s view, construction lending is absolutely not for every lender. It demands true product ownership, passionate leadership, and a willingness to invest in a program that won’t run itself. Sean breaks down the delicate dynamic between lender, builder, and borrower—the “throuple” as we joke about it—and why lenders must keep their primary duty anchored to the borrower while managing performance‑based relationships with builders, not risky referral-driven ones. He also talks about where AI is already transforming the space, from internal productivity to productized tools like Land Gorilla’s X‑ray, and how better data and visibility might help the market self‑correct faster on supply and risk than it did in past cycles. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Sean Faries' LinkedIn Land Gorilla Buy one, get one FREE tickets to the Mortgage Banking Summit on October 1st Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

    Thu, 10 Sep 2026
  • 426 - Deepfakes, deed fraud and the new risks of homeownership

    Fraud isn’t just a closing risk. It’s a housing affordability problem. On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Chris Morton, CEO of American Land Title Association, to unpack the growing threat of wire fraud, deed fraud, seller impersonation and AI-powered scams—and the costs those risks ultimately create for homeowners and lenders. Morton also weighs in on Fannie Mae’s title insurance waiver efforts, why refinances aren’t necessarily as low-risk as they appear, and the work title professionals do behind the scenes to protect property rights and transactions. As AI makes fraud increasingly sophisticated, the conversation explores an emerging arms race between technology and human judgment—and why secure transactions are fundamental to making homeownership sustainable and affordable. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Chris Morton's LinkedIn American Land Title Association Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

    Thu, 03 Sep 2026
  • 425 - Abdel Khawatmi pt. 2. Systems create scale. Relationships create the business.

    In Part 2, Abdel Khawatmi moves beyond the technology and explains what he’s ultimately building with it: a business that creates more room for relationships. From more than 700 YouTube videos and 250 podcast episodes to hyper-local market updates, Abdel explains how consistency became a competitive advantage. He also breaks down what he refuses to delegate, his PROF framework for originators and why direct communication with clients and referral partners remains firmly in his hands. The conversation ultimately becomes less about AI and more about scale: building teams, developing other producers and creating a culture where technology handles more of the work without removing the human relationships that actually drive the business. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Abdel Khawatmi’s LinkedIn PRMG Got Mortgages Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

    Thu, 27 Aug 2026
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