Pursuing the Muse

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse; today I’m catching up with Nick Dittmeier of Nick Dittmeier and the Saw Dusters, as well as, talking to bassist Shelley Anderson a bonafide Sawduster herself.

Nick is a veteran of the show from season one who is currently on a "relentless" tour supporting his new album, Apparition, which has already taken the band from the Midwest to Europe and back again.

Stick around as we discuss the mysterious internet-bot origin of his crazy album art, why Nick decided to "retire" from drinking to become a better band leader, and the his comparisons of European and American audiences.

Side note, Nick and the band have never sounded better than they did at Broken Hearts. I have seen this band many times. They are a rock and roll powerhouse that you should not miss when they come to your town.

Conversation with Nick will be followed by a chat with Shelley. Stay tuned

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00:00 - Intro: Episode Teaser and Welcome

02:11 - Interview Welcome & Supporting Apparition on the Road

03:20 - American vs. European Audiences & Guitar Attention Spans

04:55 - The Bot-Generated Album Art Mystery

06:55 - The Autobiographical Origins of "Apparition"

07:50 - Sobriety: Being the "Captain of the Ship"

10:20 - The "Moneyball" Mindset & Having a Short Memory

12:50 - Splicing the Opener: "Reckless" and "Revenge"

14:00 - The Complex Amalgamation behind "Black Dad White Mom"

17:15 - Modified Telecaster Tones & Hybrid Picking Style

20:20 - Prolific Songwriting & The Modern Cost of Album Releases

23:10 - Glimmers of Optimism in "Running Away"

24:45 - The Road Ahead & Rebranding Social Media Handles

26:15 - Meet Bassist Shelly Anderson & Switching to Bass

28:00 - Bass Influences: From Kim Deal to PJ Harvey

29:05 - 20 Years of Mastering: From Country Stars to Rock Royalty

30:50 - Joining via Instagram DM & Translating Phone Voice Memos

33:00 - Rhythm Chemistry: Comparing Josh vs. Chase on Drums

34:30 - Power Trio Dynamics: "Two for the Price of One"

35:50 - Outro

Welcome back to Pursuing the Muse. Today, we sit down with Texas singer-songwriter Thomas Csorba. Based in Dallas, Csorba is a modern master of Americana who documents the emotional realities of domestic life and fatherhood on his brand new record, "Tender Country"

Stay tuned as we discuss: Why his new album is already in my top four records of the year, his fascinating "Mirror versus Window" theory of artistry, and how getting a day job helped him finally redefine what it means to really hit the big time. 

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00:00:00 – Intro

00:02:04 – Welcome: Tender Country makes the "Final Four" best records of the year

00:02:57 – Defining Tender Country: Honesty, fatherhood, and pushing against "shock factor" culture

00:05:07 – Artistic Philosophy: Being a "Mirror" versus a "Window" for the listener

00:06:28 – Redefining success and reconciling life on the road with family

00:08:16 – Releasing the Pressure Valve: How getting a day job shifted Csorba's perspective

00:10:30 – Studio Textures: Evoking Stevie Wonder with the Clavinet on "Homemade Margaritas"

00:11:46 – "Bigger Wheels" and capturing the universal truth of watching children grow up

00:12:31 – Turtlebox Records: Partnering with the "Yeti of Speakers" for their debut release

00:15:20 – Songwriting Craft: Instruments, co-writing with Brian Douglas Phillips, and the influence of Emily Dickinson

00:16:35 – "Bigger Than Your Hat": Reworking the "cowboy's blessing" and Harry Nilsson

00:19:13 – Discipline and Accountability: The pros and cons of co-writing

00:20:09 – Willie Nelson lullabies, Texas songwriters, and a deep dive into Tony Rice

00:22:12 – Balancing "Clever" vs. "Authentic": When puns work and when they distract from the heart

00:24:40 – The Editing Process: The "first draft" philosophy and constant tweaking in the studio

00:26:40 – The Life of a Song: Why records are snapshots rather than final versions

00:28:14 – Covering "Little Green Apples": Tradition, shared community, and an "attitude of gratitude"

00:31:09 – THow dying to oneself leads to better art and a better household

00:33:40 – An oil-painting wife, unimpressed kids, and the mundane as sacred

00:35:29 – Family Update: Two boys and a baby girl on the way

00:36:31 – Solo acoustic runs, "lean and mean" touring, and collaborating with David Ramirez

00:38:23 – Thinking in albums, concept records, and new songs

00:41:42 – Outro and Contact Information

Welcome back to Pursuing the Muse. Joining us today is Nashville’s Sophie Gault an east coast raised songwriter and guitarist celebrated for her aggressive playing style and a commitment to uncompromising honesty.

Stay tuned as we discuss the single comment from her manager that redefined her sound, the eight-hour marathon session that captured lightning in a bottle, and why she considers the act of songwriting a form of magical therapy.

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00:00 Intro

01:46 - Tom welcomes Nashville recording artist Sophie Gault to Pursuing the Muse

02:11 - Unhinged as a "Lifeline": How the record helped Tom navigate a blizzard

03:33 - Defining "Unhinged": A comment from her manager at The Underdog leads to a new musical direction

04:42 - Song Inspiration: "Outlaw Cruises," gambling, and the blues influence on the title track

05:44 - The Triple Threat: Balancing the roles of guitarist, singer, and songwriter

06:46 - Early Beginnings: Quitting piano lessons at eight and begging for a guitar at twelve

07:17 - Musical Evolution: From Green Day's power chords to the blues of Bonnie Raitt

08:32 - Capturing Energy: Selecting the right session players to make a song "breathe"

09:41 - Creative Shorthand: Using "Snakes in Space" to communicate musical vibes

12:41 - Independent Struggles: The financial and mental toll of the modern music business

14:57 - Studio Atmosphere: Imagining a late-night bar environment within a sterile studio

16:31 - Lightning in a Bottle: The "Butterfly Effect" of recording live-to-tape sessions

17:10 - Lyrical Themes: Exploring heartbreak, anger, and "parking lot vengeance"

20:19 - "Chestnut Street": A college literature class song finally finds its home

21:11 - The Art of the Cover: Finding the truth inside the songs of Robert Johnson and Buck Owens

25:20 - Touring Realities: Full-band runs, Sirius XM airplay, and the Yorkville Law Office

27:17 - Geographic Influence: The journey from Maryland’s Eastern Shore to the Catskills and Nashville

29:09 - Texas "Holy Land": The appeal of Austin and the influence of Gurf Morlix

33:00 - The "Broken Things" Concept: Nashville band culture and the inspiration of Julie Miller

40:02 - Songwriting as Therapy: Digging deep for brutal honesty and the "magical" transformation of experience

41:51 - "Gems from the Sky": Songs like "Over and Out" that write themselves in fifteen minutes

42:50 - Breaking Stigma: Writing "Christmas in the Psych Ward" and navigating Bipolar Mania

46:39 - "Stowaway": Using cruise ship metaphors to capture unbidden feelings

51:18 - Writing on the Road: Avoiding creative blocks while traveling

52:18 - Road Gratitude: Finding joy in the early morning coffee and the next destination

54:32 - Old Souls and Social Media: Why Sophie identifies as more than a TikToker

55:24 - Outro & Contact Information

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse. Today we’re joined by Nathan Evans Fox, a musician whose brand of country blends Appalachian roots with deep empathy. 

Stay tuned as we discuss the raw emotion of Nathan becoming a father while losing his own in the same year. We’ll also explore his inventive "rewilding" of the banjo and hear all about his beautiful new album, Heirloom, out now, Pick it up today.

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00:00 – Intro and Theme

02:02 – Welcome: Nathan Evans Fox on the "exhaustion of dadhood"

02:44 – Introducing the new album, Heirloom

03:24 – The risk and vulnerability of autobiographical songwriting

04:11 – Vocal dynamics and the raw emotion of "I Know The End"

04:58 – The central theme: Becoming a father while losing a father

05:06 – Exploring personal, political, and systemic inheritances

06:00 – Making the album a literal heirloom through a structural "loop"

09:01 – The "nine-month panic attack" of bringing a child into the world

10:02 – Perspectival shifts from abstract "what ifs" to concrete history

10:59 – Biblical Jubilee and the hope for social liberation

13:05 – The Banjo: A tool for losing religion and marking cultural location

15:03 – Avoiding nostalgia and "stomp and holler hell"

16:18 – Inventive textures: Bowing, muting, and synth-style banjo

17:19 – The "cursed" noise solo on the track "Race Car"

18:21 – Banjo virtuosity vs. the "pocket and vibe" of songwriting

19:45 – The "Chris Knight" edge of the song "Meanness"

20:20 – Pushing creative boundaries and avoiding the "worship music" sound

22:12 – Collaborating with producer Zachary Hamilton

23:46 – A look at the contemporary Kentucky country scene

24:43 – Sequencing the record: A-sides, B-sides, and viral transitions

26:43 – "Thinking About Quitting": A scary cry for help

28:54 – "Sevendust": Insecticide as a metaphor for poisonous love

33:48 – Reimagining the nuclear family as a rehearsal space for solidarity

35:10 – The professional empath: Lessons from hospital chaplaincy

37:05 – When empathy isn't enough: The need for systemic solidarity

38:43 – Music as medicine and the "blue-collar" understanding of songs

40:24 – Metabolizing pain into agency and change

41:46 – Planting seeds and being "good compost" for the future

42:51 – Nurturing real hope vs. "the cheap shit"

44:52 – Upcoming tour dates and record release shows

45:47 – The "used car salesman" reality of the 2026 music industry

48:43 – Rewilding Country Music: Killing the monocrop of mainstream values

50:45 – Radicalizing the merch table with Zines and Okra seeds

55:47 – Musical influences: The AI-proof genius of Roger Miller

57:05 – Autobiographical boundaries and the influence of David Bazan

59:19 – The heartbreak of Wasted Love and the "composting" of a career

01:05:21 – Closing thoughts on authenticity and "no cosplay" country

01:07:04 – Outro and Contact Information

Welcome again to Pursuing the Muse! Today we are joined by Ed Jurdi and Gordy Quist, the frontmen and primary songwriters of the Austin-based Band of Heathens, who are celebrating twenty years of making great music.

Stick around to hear how their song craft has evolved over the years. Learn how Hurricane grew into a platinum monster. And find out which band member played linebacker in college.

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00:00 - Theme and Intro

02:14 - Welcoming Ed Jurdi and Gordy Quist

02:50 - Celebrating 20 Years: From the Momo’s Residency to Country Sides

04:22 - Improving the Craft: Dedication to Songwriting in Middle Age

05:27 - The "Problem Solving" Nature of the Songwriting Puzzle

07:02 - Waiting for Inspiration vs. The Discipline of Showing Up

09:15 - Keeping the Creative "Antenna" Up

11:44 - Inviting Inspiration: How Literature, Film, and Other Art Fuel Ideas

13:24 - Patterns of Creation: Starting with Titles, Guitar Hooks, or Stream of Consciousness

15:20 - Remote Collaboration and Trusting Each Other's Instincts

17:45 - Early Roots: The Original Lineup and the "Side Project" at Momo’s

19:51 - The Liberation of Shared Frontman Duties

21:45 - Common Aesthetics as the Key to Band Longevity

22:47 - The Legend of Colin Brooks: From Rocker to Fly Fishing Guide

24:47 - Full Circle Moments: Reconnecting on Stage with Old Friends

26:24 - The Good Time Supper Club: Building a Digital "Second Family"

27:41 - The Dartmouth Connection: Gordy and Trevor’s Past as College Football Players

28:51 - From the Gridiron to the Stage: Translating Linebacker Tenacity to Music

31:10 - Bull Riding Trivia: The Biblical and Texas Imagery of "Eight More Seconds"

32:33 - The Finishing School: Running a Private Creative Clubhouse in Austin

33:41 - BOH Records: The Business of Staying Independent

35:50 - Why They Turned Down Major Label Deals and Kept Their Rights

37:39 - "Hurricane": The Accidental Journey of a Platinum Monster

38:37 - Reinterpreting Levon Helm: Dark Themes and Gulf Coast Imagery

40:55 - The "Slow Burn": How "Hurricane" Went Viral Without Industry Muscle

42:27 - Hayes & The Heathens: Collaborating for the Pure Fun of It

47:22 - Learning Lyric Obsession and Word-Level Detail from Hayes Carll

51:25 - Simple Things: Capturing the Hard-Won Optimism of the Post-Pandemic Spirit

53:11 - "Sprints" and "Pods": The Strange Logistics of Recording During Lockdown

56:01 - The Narrative Arc of Country Sides: Mirroring the Band's 20-Year Journey

59:34 - Connecting with the Band: Patreon, Good Time Supper Club, and Social Media

01:00:58 - Outro & Closing Remarks

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse. Today we feature Warner Hodges, an Americana pioneer who rose from childhood drumming in USO country bands to defining the cowpunk sound with Jason and the Scorchers. He's also played alongside Dan Baird and Homemade Sin, as well as, the Bluefields. Now he's fronting the Warner E Hodges Band and not missing a beat. In this episode, Warner reveals why his wife actually hopes he dies out there on stage. The blunt advice he received from Dan Baird about the need for more guitar pedals, and the accidental and hilarious origin of the title to his new album, Absolutely. Pick that record up today!

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• 00:00:00 - Introduction and song clips

• 00:02:02 - Tom Compton welcomes Warner Hodges to Pursuing the Muse

• 00:02:28 - Transitioning from Sideman to Lead Frontman

• 00:04:51 - "I Hope You Die Out There": Perspectives on Road Life

• 00:05:41 - Early Musical Roots: Playing Drums in the Family Country Band

• 00:08:55 - From Drums to Guitar: The Impact of Seeing AC/DC

• 00:10:56 - Rehearsals vs. Pedals: Hard Truths from Dan Baird

• 00:13:31 - The Attitude of Punk and the Impact of the Sex Pistols

• 00:14:47 - Meeting Jason Ringenberg and Forming the Scorchers

• 00:17:36 - Defining "Cowpunk" and "Volume-Based Americana"

• 00:18:54 - Touring the Southeast with the Ramones and R.E.M.

• 00:22:38 - Sobriety and Reclaiming the Gift of Music

• 00:27:50 - The Evolution of Guitar Style and Nashville Chops

• 00:32:14 - The Physics and History of the 360-Degree Guitar Flip

• 00:35:13 - Connecting with the Georgia Satellites

• 00:37:25 - Joining Homemade Sin and Performing Satellites Classics

• 00:40:50 - "A Rock Band Inside a Jazz Head": Improvised Setlists

• 00:43:31 - Producing "Rollercoaster" and Trusting Joe Blanton’s Ear

• 00:45:29 - Collaborative Songwriting Dynamics

• 00:50:41 - The "Absolutely" Album and the Supersuckers Connection

• 00:53:27 - The Bluefields and Jimmy Page Aspirations

• 00:56:13 - Outro and Closing Remark

Today's guest is Nate Sipe, a founding member of the legendary Minnesota string band pert near Sandstone, who has been a staple of the Midwestern roots scene for over twenty years. As a multi-instrumentalist and co-curator of the Blue Ox Music Festival, Nate offers a unique look at the pipe dream of a lifelong career in music. In this episode, Nate reveals the origin of the band's name, discusses the urgent role of musicians as ambassadors for a traumatized Minneapolis, and shares how he stumbles into his best melodic hooks by simply noodling on new instruments. And much more.

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• 00:00 - Theme and introduction

• 01:59 - Tom welcomes Nate Sipe to Pursuing the Muse

• 02:31 - Celebrating "Pert Near" 20 Years as a Band

• 04:07 - Song Inspiration: "Pipe Dream" and Touring Realities

• 06:14 - The Collaborative Songwriting and Studio Process

• 08:28 - The Origin of the "Pert Near Sandstone" Band Name

• 11:29 - Nate Sipe’s Journey as a Multi-Instrumentalist

• 15:34 - Finding Hooks through "Noodling" and Stumbling

• 18:08 - Recording "Shooting Star" with Family Heirlooms

• 19:42 - "Grace": Addressing Homelessness and Urban Life

• 22:23 - Reflections on the Minneapolis Community and Trauma

• 25:24 - Being an "Ambassador" for Minneapolis on the Road

• 29:26 - Curation and Origins of the Blue Ox Music Festival

• 32:50 - The Growth and Vibe of the Blue Ox Community

• 35:55 - Musical Influences: From Grunge to Leo Kottke

• 41:32 - Composing for Theater and Film (Ishmael)

• 48:17 - Upcoming Tours and the "Road to Blue Ox"

• 51:30 - Insights from Hosting the Blue Ox Podcast

• 55:08 - Blue Ox 2026 Logistics and Camping

• 57:41 - Outro & Final Remarks

Welcome back to Pursuing the Muse! I’m your host, Tom Compton

Today, we are exploring the intersection of faith and melody with Father James Wallace. He's a native of Winnetka, Illinois and a trained canon lawyer, Father James serves as pastor in the archdiocese of Chicago and a professor at Mundelein Seminary

Today we'll be discussing how your favorite rock songs can be seen through a spiritual lens, why explicitly contemporary christian songs can sometimes fall flat, and the ancient debate between Saint Augustine and Thomas Aquinas on whether music is a divine gift or a potential danger.

Let’s jump on in or as James Hetfield might say, "jump in the fire".

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00:00:00 - Show introduction

00:02:06 - Intro: Tom Compton welcomes Father James Wallace

00:03:25 - Catholic Priesthood and Credentials

00:04:12 - Finding God in Secular Music

00:05:36 - Lynyrd Skynyrd’s "Simple Man" as messenger

00:10:59 - Romantic Poetry and the Song of Songs

00:13:58 - Elvis Presley: Secular Love Songs for the Lord

00:15:27 - Bob Marley, the Trinity, and the Blessed Mother

00:18:37 - Saint Augustine’s "De Musica"

00:22:57 - Scriptural Roots of Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix

00:24:25 - Toby Keith’s "I Love This Bar" Church Metaphor

00:26:14 - Thomas Aquinas and the Danger of Music

00:27:32 - The Grateful Dead: Authenticity and Idolatry

00:32:07 - Silence, Rest, and the Journey to God

00:35:40 - Finding Spirituality in Metallica

00:41:03 - The Metallica Ticket Lottery and Mosh Pit

00:43:38 - Deepening the Worship Experience in the Mass

00:47:26 - Objectivity in Beauty and Modern Art

00:50:00 - Lyrical Quality and Judas Priest

00:51:52 - Final Reflections: Reminding us of the Good and Beautiful

00:53:06 - Outro

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse. This episode we're exploring bridging the world of music and the teachings of the Buddha. Our guest today is a retired Buddhist monk whose background includes being a college music major and a musician in the US Navy. His search for life's answers led him to the Thai Forest Buddhist tradition in the lineage of Bhikkhu Buddhadasa. In this episode, we'll reveal why stardom often creates more problems than it solves. We'll discover how complex music is built on simple repetition. And we'll learn why life can be better enjoyed once you put down the script that's handed to you.

This is part 1 of a 3 part exploration of the spirituality in music. 

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Dhammarato talk transcripts: https://dhammarato.com/

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00:00:00 – Intro

00:01:56 – Welcome: Tom Compton welcomes retired monk Dhammarato

00:03:46 – Musical Roots: From playing for Red Skelton’s fans to studying fine arts at USC

00:05:18 – High Fidelity in the Navy: Recording in professional labs and transitioning toward computer science

00:08:04 – Searching for the Cure: Moving from clinical psychology to finding Goenka in India and Buddhadasa in Thailand

00:10:47 – The Retirement Hobby: Managing a global online sangha and publishing new books on the path

00:14:29 – Symptom Relief vs. Cure: Comparing modern psychotherapy to the Buddha’s actual solution for mental disease

00:15:50 – Defining the Dhamma: Prioritizing happiness in the present moment over future rewards

00:16:38 – The Illusion of Stardom: Why Hollywood success often leads to disaster rather than satisfaction

00:19:08 – Historical Hardships: Examining the difficult lives of legends like Mozart, Chopin, and Gershwin

00:20:43 – The Value of the Moment: Understanding that music's true worth exists only while it is being played

00:21:37 – Practicing the Mind vs. the Instrument: How a happy camper finds more joy in Chopsticks than a struggling pro finds in an Etude

00:25:45 – The Remorse of the Gambler: Analyzing how "loser's mentalities" and sadness dominate popular songwriting

00:27:57 – Uplifting the Tune: The need for more wholesome, celebratory music like "Joy to the World"

00:30:31 – Culture and Tone: How societal mentality, from post-war joy to modern rowdiness, reflects in musical genres

00:32:45 – Therapeutic Notes: Using songs like "Margaritaville" to own mistakes and develop a "Don't Worry, Be Happy" mindset

00:37:43 – The Simplicity of the One Thing: Debunking the Western "no pain, no gain" approach to meditation and sitting in pain

00:39:33 – Stripping the Infiltration: Moving past Hindu-influenced beliefs in reincarnation to live in one's own improved opinion of the world

00:41:01 – Shakespeare’s Stage: Putting down the "childhood script" to see the world as a hilarious comedy

00:43:11 – From Victim to Winner: Breaking the habit of dependency and victimhood to develop a "can-do" attitude

00:45:10 – Simple Success: Why finding inner happiness reduces the need for "shopaholic" behaviors and spending

00:46:25 – Looking for Love in Adulation: Nurturing oneself as a best friend rather than seeking validation from a crowd

00:48:38 – Finding the Sangha: Accessing Dhammarato’s 2,000+ videos and Discord community

00:54:19 – Success as a Mind State: How creating a habit of wholesome thoughts changes internal and external reality

00:57:41 – The Architecture of Sound: How Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony proves complexity is just repetition and variation of simplicity

01:01:01 – Defining Dharma: Understanding the "full body of everything" as the natural world

01:01:40 – Pursuing Openness: Re-envisioning "the Muse" as a flow of Dhamma through a prepared mind

01:05:04 – Outro: Closing remarks and final gratitude

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse; I’m your host, Tom Compton. Today, we’re joined by Henry Conlon, a Nashville-based artist originally from Long Island whose baritone voiced songs are helping him make a name for himself in the music world.

Stay tuned as we discuss surviving an ice storm, the whirlwind experience of recording full albums in just two days, and the real-life newspaper obituary that inspired his meticulously crafted song, "Flowers for Josephine". 

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Pursuing the Muse: Henry Conlon Conversation Summary

00:00 – Intro

02:08 – Tom Compton welcomes Henry Conlon to Pursuing the Muse

02:21 – Surviving the Nashville Ice Storm

03:34 – Growing up on Long Island and the Northeast circuit

04:42 – Early musical beginnings: From piano to summer camp guitar

05:53 – The choice to write originals over covers

07:32 – Guitar style and influences: John Prine, The Replacements, and Bob Dylan

09:01 – Moving to Nashville: From Stella Blues to the Music City "graduating class"

11:15 – The Belmont University songwriting and music business experience

13:24 – Learning the recording process and the Nashville "Singles" culture

16:37 – A prolific 2025: Releasing 25 songs in 18 months

18:22 – Song spotlight: The "lonely poet" world of "Wild Dreams"

21:07 – Experimenting with tempo: Turning slow acoustic pieces into driving rock songs

25:02 – Writing without an instrument: Songcraft via voice memos and morning commutes

26:52 – The story arc of the American Wild record

29:52 – Defining the "American Wild": From the Utah desert to the musical frontier

32:23 – The Muse: Writing for his wife, Emily

34:45 – "Flowers for Josephine": Researching a 70-year Chicago love story

41:21 – Setting parameters vs. finding the "click" in songwriting

45:49 – Collaborating with producer Paul Ebersold

47:54 – Live-tracking methodology: Capturing the "human experience" in the studio

53:41 – Meeting Robert Earl Keen at a Nashville guitar store

56:41 – Life on the road: Opening for a legend across the country

01:00:09 – The Business Side: Wearing the hats of manager, booking agent, and roadie

01:03:48 – Where to find Henry Conlon and digital platforms

01:05:02 – Future goals: The 2026 record and upcoming live projects

01:06:33 – Outro & Closing Remarks

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse! Today, we are joined by a very special returning guest, Jon Danforth. An Arkansas native now living in Dallas, Jon is here to discuss his brand new LP, Natural State—a rootsy, nostalgic project six years in the making. Listen in as we discuss the 'bacon and birds' inspiration behind the lead single, how a 'weed bouquet' led to a life-changing confession of love, and the chilling true event that inspired the record's darkest track. And much more!

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• 00:00 – Intro and theme music.

• 01:51 – Tom Compton welcomes Jon Danforth back to the show.

• 00:02 – Discussion of Danforth’s third LP, Natural State.

• 02:50 – The six-year songwriting timeline and studio process.

• 04:00 – Exploring themes of nostalgia and calling back seasons of life.

• 04:54 – The double meaning behind the title Natural State.

• 05:54 – Track breakdown: "Kingfisher" and memories of Pinnacle Mountain.

• 07:00 – Recurring themes of slowing down and living in the moment.

• 07:54 – "Tall Grass": A slice-of-life song inspired by a Dallas backyard.

• 09:42 – "Rest of My Life": A semi-fictionalized story about Jon’s wife.

• 11:20 – "Eureka": Finding childlike wonder in Eureka Springs with his daughter.

• 14:45 – Incorporating new instruments: Banjo and Fiddle.

• 15:33 – The decision to chase a "folky, rootsy" record.

• 17:26 – "Hot Springs Blues": Healing waters and breakup songs.

• 19:12 – Creating an "old school saloon" vibe with piano and banjo.

• 20:07 – The history of the Ohio Club and Hot Springs gangsters.

• 20:51 – "Morgan Mountain": Co-writing with his sister, Amy.

• 22:38 – The German meaning of "Morgan" and themes of tomorrow.

• 23:47 – The challenges and learning curve of collaborative songwriting.

• 27:15 – Songwriting vs. Poetry.

• 28:17 – Lead Single: "Arkansas Sunrise" and capturing the "personal universal".

• 32:15 – The "Bacon and Birds" inspiration.

• 33:07 – "Two Rivers Park": A literal description of a "keeper moment".

• 34:08 – The story of the "weed bouquet".

• 35:44 – "Devil in the Den": A dark turn based on a true event.

• 36:45 – Balancing darkness and light in album sequencing.

• 38:43 – "The Springs": Spiritual transcendence and baptism imagery.

• 41:04 – Connecting physical healing waters to spiritual restoration.

• 42:07 – Discussion on the relationship between healing and escapism.

• 44:05 – Maintaining simplicity without becoming "corny".

• 47:28 – Rejecting the "commodity" of fast music for the "scenic route" of art.

• 50:09 – "Hunting" for the next project while releasing the current one.

• 52:16 – Natural State as a tribute to place.

• 54:06 – Jon Danforth: Unofficial ambassador for Arkansas Tourism.

• 57:23 – Memories of Bo’s Barbecue and local legends.

• 58:14 – Future plans for regional shows and touring.

• 59:11 – Outro: Where to find Jon Danforth and MySpace nostalgia

Welcome back to Pursuing the Muse. Today, we’re joined by Gary Landess, frontman of the Chicago-based dirty blues rock quartet Gatorwater. Known for their slithering slide guitar and a rhythm section that thumps like a creature emerging from the swamp, the band recently released their heavy new album, Hydrophonic. In this episode, Gary reveals how a warped, unplayable guitar accidentally launched his signature slide style, the mystery of the real-life "Illinois Cowboy" and his spurs, and the family racing boat legacy that inspired the track "Ora Hula Ballroom". And much more...

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• 00:00 - Intro

• 02:02 - Welcoming Gary Landess, frontman of Gatorwater.

• 02:27 - Hydrophonic release

• 02:58 - The "Old New" Album

• 04:15 - Shirk Studios:

• 05:17 - Potions and Elixirs

• 08:03 - Independent Release Strategy

• 09:40 - Banking Music

• 11:54 - Meet the Band: bassist Donovan Foote, harmonica Peter Beck, and drummer Olivia Beatty.

• 13:23 - Collaborative Songwriting

• 16:54 - Vocals and "Growls"

• 22:36 - AI and the Future

• 23:35 - The "Titanic Green" Resonator

• 27:39 - Baritone Experimentation

• 30:23 - From Drums to Guitar

• 34:24 - "Faking It Till You Make It"

• 39:25 - Musical Gateways

• 42:25 - Defining the Sound

• 43:54 - Modern Influence

• 47:53 - "Illinois Cowboy"

• 50:31 - "Ora Hula Ballroom"

• 58:00 - Streaming Realities

• 58:40 - Tales from Phyllis’

• 59:40 - Outro & Contact Info

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse. Today, we are joined by the legendary Justin Warfield. From signing a solo deal at sixteen on Quincy Jones’s label to his global success with She Wants Revenge, Justin has spent thirty years navigating diverse genres. 

Stick around as we discuss how Beastie Boys made it safe for him to be a 'total weirdo' in early hip-hop, the 'perfect storm' involving Lady Gaga that gave his hit 'Tear You Apart' a massive second life, and the 'Willy Wonka' factory experience of the 90s London music scene.

Justin has a new album out called "Deathrock Devotionals" under the band name Warfield. 

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• 00:00:00 - Intro

• 00:02:44 - Starting at 16 accidental career and mentorship in composition.

• 00:03:41 - The Quincy Jones Connection

• 00:04:51 - Architect of Trip-Hop?

• 00:07:09 - "Nashville Skyline" Meets Hip-Hop

• 00:09:04 - Freedom to be a "Weirdo"

• 00:10:20 - The "Perfect Storm" of 1988/89

• 00:13:29 - Transition to London

• 00:14:18 - Willy Wonka’s Factory

• 00:16:19 - Cycle of Mentorship

• 00:19:25 - Alternative Evolution

• 00:21:18 - "Growing Up in Public"

• 00:22:17 - Birth of She Wants Revenge

• 00:26:37 - A 20-Year Partnership

• 00:27:51 - How Lady Gaga personally championed "Tear You Apart" for American Horror Story.

• 00:28:44 - The WARFIELD Project

• 00:32:43 - Solo Autonomy: creative freedom of recording alone versus the collaborative

• 00:34:59 - "All the Fun" Mission Statement

• 00:38:06 - Songwriting Deep Dive: Reworking "If the World Starts Crashing Down Tonight"

• 00:41:35 - Trusting First Instincts

• 00:44:31 - Collaborative Process: How Thomas Froggatt and Spencer Rollins add "curveballs"

• 00:48:15 - Live Interpretation

• 00:49:08 - Mixtape Generation

• 00:50:25 - Vulnerability in "A Love So Bold"

• 00:52:23 - Looking Ahead

• 00:54:23 - Outro & Contact: Instagram and Bandsintown

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse. This go round we have Mark Guarino, a veteran journalist for the Washington Post and ABC News, and author of the award-winning music history book, Country and Midwestern. 

We discuss how Chicago’s role in country and folk history is like an independent research lab. While Nashville became the high-profile factory producing the finished "products" for the mass market, Chicago was the experimental space where the formulas were first discovered, tested, and pushed into weird, new directions away from corporate oversight. Mark's extensive stories reveal a rich century of Chicago's music evolution. 

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• 00:00:54 – Intro: Tom Compton welcomes Mark Guarino

• 00:02:07 – Huskies Pride: Reminiscing about high school days and ill-fated track team experiences.

• 00:05:32 – A Decade of Discovery: The ten-year journey of writing Country and Midwestern

• 00:07:44 – Human-Centric History: Why focusing on the stories of people is the key

• 00:10:01 – The Unique 1990s: the luck of being a journalist in the right place at the right time.

• 00:12:12 – An "Injustice" Rectified

• 00:13:12 – WLS National Barn Dance

• 00:15:33 – "Hillbilly Heaven" in Uptown

• 00:20:05 – Stories of Resistance

• 00:22:14 – The Gate of Horn

• 00:24:29 – Bob Gibson’s Dark Side

• 00:28:06 – Old Town School of Folk Music

• 00:32:48 – McCarthyism & The FBI

• 00:37:08 – The Prine Connection

• 00:38:35 – Bob Dylan Deemed Unworthy.

• 00:42:44 – A Living Legacy: the University of Chicago Folk Festival

• 00:45:15 – From the Will the Circle Be Unbroken resurgence to the modern popularity of Bluegrass.

• 00:47:55 – The Spirit of Collaboration

• 00:53:44 – 2025 Favorite Releases

• 00:57:17 – Van Morrison’s Deep Cuts

• 01:03:05 – Closing superlatives

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse. This week we’re diving into the wonderful new album, Clams Casino, with the artist who created it, Brian Dunne.

Brian is a singer-songwriter based in New York. He’s known for combining rock and roll with raw, literate self-examination, and he is also a member of the supergroup Fantastic Cat.

Stick around as Brian discusses the core conflict of his working-class characters having to choose whether to "sell out or move out", how he produced the album at home, sometimes keeping the "lower quality audio" from original demos to preserve the song’s soul, and why he believes that professional songwriting discipline is like "going fishing" every day.

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• 00:01:56 - Intro: Tom Compton welcomes Brian Dunne and praises Clams Casino

• 00:03:10 - The concept of Clams Casino as the aftermath of the previous album

• 00:04:10 - The central theme of the record: Examining personal and public issues through the lens of class and working-class roots

• 00:06:15 - The two main characters and the core conflict: whether to "sell out or move out".

• 00:07:14 - Discussing songs that explore the duality of letting a dream die, contrasting the pain with the "sweet relief of letting something go"

• 00:08:17 - Solo performance feedback

• 00:10:08 - Fantastic Cat: How the "super group of sorts"came together, and plans

• 00:12:39 - Production shift: Adopting a new process for Clams Casino by prioritizing the "pure" intention and "soul"

• 00:14:34 - Using "lower quality audio" demo tracks to achieve an authentic balance,.

• 00:15:30 - The "ears" and collaborators who helped refine the record, including Ken Yates, Dan Rohan, Ben Tali, and Don D’Lego.

• 00:17:12 - Brian Dunne played about 90% of the instruments on the album

• 00:18:11 - Using his humble New York home studio

• 00:21:10 - The title Clams Casino: It is a bygone red-sauce menu item that symbolizes working-class aspiration, class pride, and shame

• 00:25:33 - Vocal style and influences

• 00:27:51 - Guitar influences: Mike Campbell and Robbie Robertson

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Welcome to Pursuing the Muse. Today we welcome Atlanta musician Elijah Johnston, winner of the 2022 Vic Chesnutt Songwriter of the Year Award.

His new album, Stupid Soul, blends lush Americana, power pop, and 90s alternative sounds, earning praise for its diversity. Elijah's most recent release is the holiday song "The Joy in Everything".

Hear Elijah discuss how recording Stupid Soul became "more scrambled than initially planned, why he tackled Bruce Springsteen’s "Valentine's Day" with a "modernized shot in the arm", and why he actively avoids an "arms race of who can out personal each other" in songwriting

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• 00:01:52 - Intro

• 00:02:23 - Discussion of the diverse, hard-to-categorize nature of Stupid Soul.

• 00:03:15 - The recording process for Stupid Soul becoming "more scrambled" despite aiming for cohesion.

• 00:04:34 - The evolution toward a looser style

• 00:05:45 - Catchiness of the song "Ideas" and positive reception

• 00:07:57 - Translating the sonically dense album tracks into strong live arrangements

• 00:10:02 - Awareness of which songs have the necessary structure to shine in solo acoustic versus full-band settings.

• 00:11:00 - Performing the complex vocal arrangements of "Baby Bands" live.

• 00:13:29 - Attention to album sequencing

• 00:14:41 - The choice of "Leonard" as the album opener

• 00:19:35 - Prioritizing universal themes and "ecstatic truth" over transcribing diary entries.

• 00:23:48 - Covering Bruce Springsteen's "Valentine's Day"

• 00:29:53 - Winning the 2022 Vic Chesnutt Songwriter of the Year Award.

• 00:31:42 - The historical significance of Athens, GA

• 00:35:05 - Early musical goals focused on songwriting and melody

• 00:39:51 - The spontaneous studio decision that turned an electric guitar song into an acoustic, folky track.

• 00:43:40 - Sequencing the album closer, "Football Season," as a simple, climactic loop back to the start

• 00:47:22 - Using the horror movie title "I Know What You Did Last Summer" metaphorically to explore the dramatic emotions of young people

• 00:52:40 - Songwriting process is generally Melody first, followed by finding words that fit

• 00:57:21 - The practice of repurposing strong song sections

• 00:58:09 - Recording strategy involves strict budgeting and entering the studio avoiding wasting time.

• 01:00:32 - Relying on the Apple Voice Memo app to capture raw ideas

• 01:01:49 - The history and camaraderie of the core musical crew.

• 01:05:45 - Plans for the next album

• 01:07:45 - The goal of making every section of a song the "catchy part"

• 01:09:06 - Outro & Upcoming dates, including South by Southwest in Austin

Today on Pursuing the Muse, we are in conversation with Nashville native, Gabe Lee!

Gabe is an award-winning songwriter, recently named Saving Country Music’s 2023 Album of the Year winner for Drink The River. Known for crafting songs that blend country, folk, and rock, Lee is celebrated as a versatile performer and profound storyteller.

Stay tuned to hear Gabe reveal the working title of his next album. He details the unique experience of recording it in a haunted mansion in West Virginia. And he explains why heartbreak is an incredible motivator for any songwriter. So without further Adie

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• 00:02:00 - Intro: Tom Compton welcomes Gabe Lee

• 00:03:07 - New Single "Wedding Song"

• 00:03:39 - The Intense Record Release Cycle

• 00:06:01 - Creative Freedom Between Albums

• 00:06:48 - Upcoming Record Tone

• 00:07:56 - Independent Production

• 00:08:35 - A Grungier Sound

• 00:09:26 - Producing Solo

• 00:10:37 - Working Title: "Brittle County": seemingly strong things can shatter, and seemingly brittle things can be strong

• 00:12:35 - Unique Recording Process: Recording eleven songs in a haunted mansion

• 00:13:37 - Chemistry vs. Session Musicians

• 00:16:59 - Songwriting Origins: Starting songwriting in high school/middle school, channeling emotions and heartbreak

• 00:19:07 - Finding His Voice

• 00:21:13 - The Leap to Drink the River

• 00:23:45 - The Sonic Thread: voice and the thread of storytelling maintain cohesion

• 00:26:29 - Affection for Bluegrass

• 00:27:32 - Songs Work in Both Worlds

• 00:29:28 - Developing Originality

• 00:32:09 - The Influence of John Prine

• 00:36:10 - Collaboration with King Margo

• 00:39:04 - Economics of Touring

• 00:43:58 - Musician Networks

• 00:45:02 - The Nashville Proving Ground

• 00:50:50 - The Art of Sequencing

• 00:52:30 - The Emotional Back Half of Drink the River

• 00:54:19 - Drink the River Theme

• 00:56:38 - The Empathy of Storytelling

• 01:02:37 - The Central Message: The title track, "Drink the River"

• 01:04:55 - Opening Up to Co-Writing

• 01:07:59 - Brian Elmquist Collaboration

• 01:08:57 - Outro & Continued Touring

Welcome back to Pursuing the Muse! Jon Nolan is back for his second appearance on the podcast. We are diving deep into his fantastic new album, Slow Cooker.

Jon hails from Newmarket, New Hampshire, aka "Shoe Town". He is a seasoned musician, having co-fronted Say ZuZu with Cliff Murphy as well as taking the reigns with his own band, Good Company. 

Stay tuned as Jon reveals the raw, emotional story behind the track "Someone's in the driveway," inspired by an end-of-life request from an old acquaintance. You'll also learn how his wintertime music series sparked the album's title, Slow Cooker, which encourages slowing down and taking time. And learn about what the Omnichord actually is.

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• 00:01:48 - Intro: Tom welcomes Jon Nolan back

• 00:03:22 - Slow Cooker Origin

• 00:06:03 - Recording Location

• 00:07:11 - Slow Cooker Sessions

• 00:09:28 - Creative Process jealously guarding the joy of playing

• 00:14:05 - The Story Behind "Someone's in the driveway"

• 00:18:18 - Newmarket History

• 00:21:43 - The Cinematic Album

• 00:28:55 - "Sea Glass" and the Omnichord

• 00:34:08 - Slow Cooker Themes

• 00:40:02 - Emotional Core

• 00:44:06 - Shifting Moods

• 00:50:54 - Bass in the Pocket

• 00:52:19 - "Sweat and Blood"

• 00:56:30 - Gear Details

• 00:59:10 - The closing track

• 01:07:11 - Support and Touring

• 01:12:20 - The Importance of Community

• 01:17:53 - Slow Cooker Sessions (Detailed)

Welcome back to Pursuing the Muse. I’m Tom Compton, and today we’re talking the recent vinyl release of the Yayhoos two albums with half the members of the band: Terry Anderson and Eric Ambel. The Yayhoos are a roots-rock supergroup, featuring former Georgia Satellites frontman Dan Baird, Eric Ambel of The Del-Lords, Terry Anderson of the Olympic Ass Kickin Team and bassist extradoinaire Keith Christopher. They are known for their loud, unapologetically ragged rock sound. 

Coming up you'll hear the chaotic story of recording their debut album, Fear Not the Obvious, live to eight-track in a North Carolina barn; learn how Eric coaxed Keith's stream of consciousness lyrics into a finished song and find out why attending a Yayhoos show was arguably one of the most fun things you could ever do.

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• 00:00:00 - Show intro

• 00:02:18 - Intro: Tom Compton welcomes Terry Anderson and Eric Ambel of the Yayhoos

• 00:03:09 - The impetus for releasing the two great albums on vinyl.

• 00:04:14 - Explanation of acquiring the Bloodshot assets and what led to the vinyl release.

• 00:05:39 - Eric Ambel discusses finding the analog tapes for both records and the remastering

• 00:07:01 - Discussion of the mastering challenges of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska

• 00:09:20 - Differences in mastering for vinyl versus CD

• 00:10:59 - Terry Anderson shares his enthusiasm for the new vinyl sound

• 00:12:11 - The origin story of the Yayhoos begins: early songwriting sessions

• 00:14:04 - Discussion of the band forming after Keith Christopher was brought in and early recordings on a cassette four-track

• 00:15:15 - The band formed as a co-op after tour support was pulled, leading them to play songs off all members' solo records.

• 00:17:13 - How the band used a "development deal" to record the first album at Terry's dad's barn

• 00:19:30 - Recording and songwriting process for the first album

• 00:22:12 - The creation of Keith Christopher’s song "For Crying Out Loud" using mumbled vocal takes.

• 00:24:40 - The release of Fear Not the Obvious in 2001, coinciding with September 11th.

• 00:27:55 - The surreal experience of playing a gig just days after 9/11

• 00:31:19 - The story behind the song "Frozen Head," which appears on all members' solo records

• 00:33:05 - The infectious energy and fun of The Yayhoos' live shows, including "crick dancing"

• 00:35:45 - Recalling a memorable gig in Spain

• 00:39:51 - How the band self-released their second album, Put the Hammer Down

• 00:40:40 - The band's highly collaborative songwriting process and how they pitched in to help each other

• 00:46:41 - Eric describes the dulcimer/dulcitar instrument used on "Right as Rain"

• 00:50:24 - Terry’s favorite aspects of playing with Eric

• 00:51:43 - Eric’s favorite aspects of playing with Terry

• 00:53:02 - Terry shares the recent loss of three years of his songwriting notes

• 00:55:36 - Eric discusses his collaboration with renowned studio designer Wes Lachot

• 01:00:32 - Eric mentions a popular video walkthrough of his studio on YouTube

• 01:07:11 - Terry's favorite gig memory: playing the Roskilde Festival in Denmark

• 01:09:37 - Discussion of the Outlaw Country Cruise

• 01:11:55 - Final encouragement to purchase the vinyl reissues before they sell out.

• 01:13:00 - Eric promotes his website and Instagram (which includes cat pictures).

Welcome back to Pursuing the Muse! I’m Tom Compton, and we are kicking off season four strong with a special guest, welcoming Grammy Award-winning musician, songwriter, and producer Buick Audra. 

She's a Nashville resident, her fourth solo record, ADULT CHILD, is a strikingly personal concept album released in June 2025. She is also the guitarist and primary songwriter in the melodic heavy duo, Friendship Commanders, who just released their album BEAR this fall.

Buick dives deep into the strikingly personal Adult Child album, telling us the profound meaning behind the refrain, "Can I slow it down". You’ll hear reflections on working with legendary Steve Albini. And she shares how performing the cappella song "Losing My Courage" completely silences even the loudest rock venue.

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• 00:02:06 - Intro and Adult Child

• 00:03:33 - Album Themes and Production

• 00:06:02 - "The Worst People Win"'s timely nature

• 00:07:08 - Inherited Patterns

• 00:09:43 - Solo Electric Performance

• 00:10:52 - The Honesty of "Yellow"

• 00:13:51 - Resilience in "One Step Close Up"

• 00:16:52 - Grief and Expectation in "Birthdays and Bullshit"

• 00:19:05 - The Power of A Cappella

• 00:22:30 - Estrangement and Poetry

• 00:29:33 - Thesis of the Record

• 00:37:01 - Grammy Recognition

• 00:46:18 - Songwriting Process

• 00:49:32 - Friendship CommandersOverview

• 01:01:06 - Working with Steve Albini

• 01:05:35 - Future Projects

We're shutting down season three with a return of two of the season's great guests, Mike Delevante and Tim Fitzgerald. We're inventing a new genre of Chicago Nash Jazz Rock. Listen in for talk of singing harmonies, playing overseas, Hammond organs and all that AI can't replicate.

The show notes have fact checked that Sha Na Na did perform at the Woodstock festival as claimed by Mike Delevante.

Get Mike's new record, "September Days" at his website: https://mikedelevante.com

Get Tim's Wes Montgomery steeped release "Full House" at his website: https://timfitzgeraldmusic.com

And Subscribe to Tom's substack at: https://rehydraters.substack.com

This week, Pursuing the Muse declares "The thrill is not gone" because we're thrilled to feature blues phenom D.K. Harrell.

At just 27, this Award-winning guitarist and vocalist is recognized as a leading light of the younger generation of blues artists. His new Alligator Records debut album, Talkin' Heavy, showcases his powerful original songs and unique sound, cementing his place among leading voices in blues.

In our conversation, D.K. reveals how B.B. King literally taught him to talk when he was two years old, his commitment to writing modern, original blues lyrics that move beyond stereotypes, and his passion for delivering high-energy, authentic live shows that connect personally with audiences. Listen in!

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• 02:11 - Intro: Tom Compton welcomes DK Harrell to Pursuing the Muse.

• 02:26 - "Talkin' Heavy" Album Debut

• 03:15 - Song Inspiration "Into the Room"

• 04:15 - Collaborating with Kid Anderson

• 06:48 - Original Songwriting Approach

• 08:56 - Guitar Tones and Influences

• 13:56 - Early Musical Beginnings

• 16:41 - Vocal Development and Priorities

• 24:30 - First Instruments & Guitar Journey

• 31:49 - B.B. King's Influence on Guitar Playing

• 33:46 - Live Performance Philosophy

• 37:57 - Signature Moves & Authenticity

• 46:46 - Audience Appreciation

• 50:36 - Uniqueness of DK Harrell's Sound

• 52:34 - The Future of Blues

• 58:29 - Hardship and Blues as Life

• 01:01:18 - Honesty and Audience Connection

• 01:04:02 - Outro & Contact Information

This week, Pursuing the Muse is excited to feature Scottish-born, Texas-raised, and Nashville-based country singer-songwriter Callum Kerr. Beyond his music, Callum is an accomplished actor, having starred in 13 films and TV series, including hit Netflix shows like Virgin River and One Piece. He's just released his debut EP, 'Roots Under Me'.

In our chat, Callum shares about his Grand Ole Opry debut, the unique experience of recording his album's vocals in South Africa, and how his acting career sparked his serious pursuit of country music. Listen in for an insightful conversation!

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• 00:02:13: Debut EP Release and Grand Ole Opry Experience

• 00:04:01: Songs Performed and "Used to Love This Town"

• 00:06:29: Musical Journey and Influences

• 00:12:52: Geographic Influences on Songwriting & Remote Recording

• 00:17:55: Perspectives on AI in Music

• 00:22:02: Impact of Fatherhood

• 00:23:59: Early Music Start and Songwriting Development

• 00:26:08: Solo vs. Co-writing and EP Theme

• 00:32:53: Origins of "Silver Lining"

• 00:34:06: Working with Producers David and Dann Huff

• 00:39:12: Future of the Music Industry & Social Media Strategy

• 00:41:33: Touring Plans and Upcoming Acting Project

• 00:44:56: Finding Callum Kerr's Music

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse!

Today, we're joined by Lucy Kaplansky, a New York folk singer-songwriter who took a detour as a psychologist, before returning to music with acclaimed solo albums and supergroups such as Cry Cry Cry.

Lucy and I discuss her new career retrospective album, "The Lucy Story," her unique songwriting process, co-writing with her husband, and the emotional impact of songs like "Last Days of Summer" and "Ten Year Night".

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• 00:02:30 - Intro

• 00:02:50 - Songwriting Beginnings & Detour:

• 00:05:03 - New Album: "The Lucy Story"

• 00:06:19 - "Last Days of Summer" & "I Know Why the River Runs"

• 00:07:06 - Psychology's Influence on Songwriting

• 00:08:09 - Working in Supergroups (Cry Cry Cry & Red Horse)

• 00:10:50 - Geographic Challenges in Group Projects

• 00:12:15 - Perspective on AI in Music

• 00:14:50 - New York as a Folk Mecca

• 00:17:22 - Shift to Self-Releasing Music

• 00:22:19 - Business Acumen & Tools

• 00:24:32 - Co-writing with Husband Rick Litvin

• 00:26:26 - Vocal Development and Maintenance

• 00:30:19 - Father's Influence

• 00:34:48 - Songwriter Influences & Process

• 00:39:07 - "Last Days of Summer" & Its Impact

• 00:41:25 - Audience Reactions to Specific Songs

• 00:43:19 - "Every Single Day"

• 00:44:48 - Finding Lucy

This week on Pursuing the Muse we're joined by the talented Jessica Willis Fisher.

Jessica is a Nashville based singer-songwriter and fiddle player. She has an acclaimed new album out now called "Blooming" which is the follow up to her debut "Brand New Day". She is also the author of the powerful memoir, "Unspeakable", which chronicles the domestic abuse of her childhood.

In our conversation, we discuss her unique artistic journey, the profound inspirations behind her music, and how she uses her voice to speak truth and help others.  

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• 00:02:03 - Intro & Chicago Roots

• 00:04:19 - New Album "Blooming" Release

• 00:06:00 - Backstory & Memoir "Unspeakable"

• 00:08:50 - "Brand New Day" (Survival) vs. "Blooming" (Thriving)

• 00:09:49 - Optimism Tempered by Realism

• 00:12:51 - Societal Triggers & "Flower in a Sidewalk Crack"

• 00:14:29 - Embracing Vulnerability & Openness

• 00:18:52 - "Healing" & "Dogwood" Songwriting Insights

• 00:23:51 - Recording Process & Studio Musicians

• 00:30:13 - Creative Freedom vs. Family Band Control

• 00:36:52 - Trauma and "Sadie"

• 00:40:24 - Music as a Life Saver & Reclaiming Her Voice

• 00:42:42 - 60th Grand Ole Opry Performance

• 00:43:38 - Memoir "Unspeakable" & Opry Significance

• 00:48:57 - Advocacy and Ongoing Healing

• 00:54:16 - Self-Discovery Through Songwriting

• 00:56:38 - Evolving Relationship with Music

• 01:03:02 - Live Performances & Industry Navigation

• 01:06:32 - Current Collaborations & Touring

• 01:08:39 - Artistic Philosophy & Irish Heritage

• 01:14:37 - "The Fox" & Fiddle Influences

• 01:19:52 - Finding Jessica Willis Fisher Online

Welcome to Pursuing the Muse! Today, we're excited to bring you an in-depth conversation with a true master of the blues, the legendary Larry McCray. Get ready to dive deep into his musical journey and the creative process behind his compelling new album.

Larry McCray is an acclaimed American blues guitarist, singer, and songwriter, originally from Magnolia, Arkansas. He learned guitar from his older sister, Clara, and was heavily influenced by the "three Kings" (B.B., Freddie, and Albert), developing a unique style that brings a fresh perspective to the blues. His latest album, "Heartbreak City" showcases his commitment to keeping the blues current while staying true to its roots.

In this episode, Larry shares how he crafts new rhythms and chord changes to make the blues accessible to a wider audience, revealing the diverse faces of the genre. He recounts fascinating stories from his extensive career, including his experiences knowing and touring with blues giants like Albert King and B.B. King. Larry also offers his candid perspective on the importance of emotional truth in blues vocals for younger musicians, emphasizing the need to "get ugly" when singing the blues. Don't miss this chance to hear directly from an artist who continues to pour his heart into every note, proving that the blues is very much alive and evolving

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Learn more about Larry here:

https://larrymccrayofficial.com/

https://www.instagram.com/officiallarrymccray/

https://www.facebook.com/@OfficialLarryMcCray/

https://www.youtube.com/@officiallarrymccray

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• 00:01:41 - Intro and initial reaction to "Heartbreak City"

• 00:02:53 - The diverse nature of "Heartbreak City" and the varied faces of the blues

• 00:03:34 - Larry recounts his early inspiration and start playing guitar in Arkansas

• 00:05:15 - Discussion of his move to Michigan in 1972

• 00:06:17 - His sister's role in teaching him guitar and his early learning of the Jimmy Reed shuffle and copying B.B. King

• 00:07:30 - Larry reflects on the Albert King influence in his solos

• 00:10:07 - Larry's approach to songwriting and his motivation to put his own signature on the blues

• 00:14:52 - The unique dynamic of playing with his brother Steve on drums

• 00:16:32 - How Larry connected with Joe Bonamassa

• 00:18:24 - Recording locations like Ocean Way and Sunset Studio

• 00:20:44 - His consistent approach to blues music over 30 years

• 00:21:51 - Other contemporary blues musicians he respects

• 00:22:42 - His criticism for younger blues musicians regarding the vocal emotion

• 00:25:24 - Acknowledgment of Bobby Blue Bland

• 00:27:27 - Larry's extensive experience touring and meeting many of his blues heroes

• 00:29:08 - A funny story about B.B. King backstage

• 00:34:05 - Larry reflects on maintaining his vibrancy and passion at 65

• 00:35:01 - His natural singing ability since childhood, without formal vocal exercises

• 00:36:44 - Future touring plans

• 00:38:23 - The evolution of his songwriting

• 00:39:01 - The positive vibe of "Heartbreak City"

• 00:41:38 - The album's "home cooking" feel

• 00:42:21 - His approach to guitar solos

• 00:45:52 - His songwriting process

• 00:47:55 - His focus on originality in songwriting

• 00:48:50 - Capturing musical ideas using his phone and archiving unused songs for future projects

• 00:51:11 - The album's lack of a specific theme

• 00:53:51 - Larry's advice for young musicians

• 00:54:57 - Closing remarks

Get ready for a deep dive into the mind of Dustin Lowman! In the latest episode of Pursuing the Muse, Tom Compton sits down with singer-songwriter Dustin Lowman to discuss his captivating album, "Invulnerable,".

Dustin Lowman is a singer-songwriter residing in the greater New York City area, drawing inspiration from masters like Bob Dylan. He released his album "Invulnerable" in late 2024, following EPs such as "Carnivalesque" and "Folk Songs". Lowman views songwriting as an inner sanctum where he converts the chaos from life into something constructive

In the interview, Dustin shares the fascinating concept behind the album's title and goes deep on several of the tracks. He elaborates on his innate draw to creative writing from a young age and how he began songwriting around age 15. He describes the value of the "insecure voice". There's also chat about Bob Dylan and Dustin's use of comedy.

This episode offers a rare glimpse into the creative process of a talented songwriter who truly lives his art.

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Learn more about Dustin here:

https://dustinlowman.com/

https://www.instagram.com/dustinlowmanmusic/

https://www.facebook.com/DustinLowmanMusic/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0EXIhje91Ic2bnsbk_skXg

https://onwriting.substack.com/

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• 00:01:52 - Intro to Dustin Lowman

• 00:02:05 - Meaning behind the album title "Invulnerable"

• 00:04:25 - Xppreciation for the album

• 00:06:18 - Inspiration for "Lucky Stars"

• 00:07:42 - Early beginnings as a songwriter

• 00:09:42 - Learning guitar and obsessively writing and studying songs

• 00:10:49 - Desire to perform

• 00:12:03 - Performing felt intuitive

• 00:12:55 - Differences in performing solo acoustic vs. with a band

• 00:14:20 - Challenges and realities of playing with a band

• 00:16:13 - Dustin Lowman's journey from Connecticut to Brooklyn

• 00:18:43 - Songwriting as a "sanctum"

• 00:21:06 - The role of validation

• 00:23:55 - The value of insecurity in creativity

• 00:25:35 - Inspiration for "A Little Green Left"

• 00:28:02 - Deep connection to Bob Dylan

• 00:30:39 - Dylan's tangible influence on Lowman's songwriting

• 00:33:04 - Thoughts on the Bob Dylan biopic

• 00:38:16 - Origin of "Hangover Cure"

• 00:40:49 - "Searching for My Twin"

• 00:42:29 - Comedy and wit

• 00:45:42 - Discusses his wide range of comedic influences

• 00:48:38 - Upcoming projects and ways to follow

• 00:49:55 - Lowman's Substack, "On Writing,"

• 00:50:31 - Closing remarks

Pursuing the Muse is back. This episode, we're featuring jazz guitar virtuoso Tim Fitzgerald. Tim and Tom go way back, so Tom can vouch for the fact that Tim's journey is incredible. He transitioned from studying physics to music mastery, learning the rules and how to break them from Barry Harris and Rodney Jones. Tim's now a scholar of Wes Montgomery and has released the acclaimed 'Full House' album, which reimagines Wes's iconic solos. Stay tuned for an inspiring conversation.

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Find out more about Tim Fitzgerald:

https://www.timfitzgeraldmusic.com

https://timfitzgerald.bandcamp.com/

https://www.instagram.com/timfitzgeraldmusic

https://www.facebook.com/timfitzgeraldmusic

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00:01:43 - Intro

00:02:23 - On humor and improv

00:03:41 - The "no rim shots" rule. (Bowser DID attend Juliard!)

00:05:23 - Post-high school journey and early music aspirations

00:09:53 - Life-changing teachers: Barry Harris

00:13:04 - The cool demeanor of Jimmy Lovelace

00:14:37 - Life-changing teachers: Rodney Jones

00:19:27 - Tim Fitzgerald as an educator

00:22:46 - Discovering Wes Montgomery

00:25:00 - Wes Montgomery's commercial success and CTI period

00:27:50 - The influential "Jazz 625" video

00:30:41 - Rodney Jones's serendipitous role in the video's release

00:33:05 - Transcribing Wes Montgomery and book creation

00:38:36 - The "Full House" album concept

00:42:03 - Future recording plans and the challenges of the Hammond B-3

00:47:57 - The connection between music and dance

01:03:09 - International touring and audience reactions

01:09:33 - Improvisation as a dynamic conversation

01:14:51 - Cultivating an individual sound

01:16:48 - Comparison of Fitzgerald and Montgomery's styles

01:18:57 - The importance of personality in music

01:20:06 - Joe Satriani and Eddie Van Halen: A parallel to personal interpretation

01:21:46 - Concluding remarks

In this episode we're fortunate to have Nashville musician Mike Delevante join us. His new album, September Days, is in contention for record of the year. It boasts a timeless quality with jangly 12 string electric guitars and it offers a deeply personal feel. Notably, this marks Mike's first album of entirely self-written songs. It's a significant solo debut after years of making music with his older brother in the Delevantes. Get ready to delve into the creative journey behind Mike's remarkable new record, September Days.

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Find out more about Mike:

https://mikedelevante.com/

https://mikedelevante.bandcamp.com/album/september-days

https://orcd.co/mdseptdays

https://instagram.com/michaeldelevante

https://www.youtube.com/@mikedelevante

Https://facebook.com/mikedelevante

https://bsky.app/profile/delevante.bsky.social

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00:01:52 - Intro: Tom Compton welcomes Mike Delevante to Pursuing the Muse.

00:02:05 - September Days new album released

00:02:58 - Early Musical Journey & Songwriting

00:05:50 - Professional Deals & Hiatus

00:07:03 - Solo Songwriting Emergence

00:08:18 - Brother's Support & Sibling Dynamics

00:10:50 - Songwriting Floodgates Opening

00:12:30 - Personal Songwriting Process

00:14:22 - Album's Vulnerability & Timeless Sound

00:16:32 - September Days Title & Seasonal Themes

00:21:21 - "Adeline" Inspiration

00:22:38 - Music and Evoked Memories

00:25:40 - Meeting Garry Tallent

00:29:43 - Enduring Collaboration with Tallent

00:36:56 - Working with Producer Joe Pisapia

00:39:56 - Guitar Arrangements & Recording Approach

00:41:49 - Vocal Recording & Joe Pisapia's Encouragement

00:46:16 - Previous Mixing Deal & Graphic Design Background

00:52:22 - "The Rain Never Came" Theme

00:56:16 - "When You're Around" Meaning & Album Mood

01:00:10 - Emerging Hindsight Themes

01:03:26 - Songwriting Evolution During Recording

01:06:08 - Drummers & Recording Techniques

01:11:19 - Confidence from Recording Process

01:14:50 - Record Label & Guy Clark Foundation

01:17:33 - Album Availability

01:20:11 - New Jersey Roots & High School Influence

01:25:56 - Social Media Presence

01:31:35 - Closing Remarks: new record length podcast episode

Pursuing the Muse theme song "Neon Rails" by Joel Corelitz

In this episode, host Tom Compton talks with Eric Ambel, who truly embodies the word versatile in his work as a musician, producer, and even venue owner at one point. Eric says his many musical roles enhance each other. With a career spanning decades, Eric Ambel was a founding member of iconic bands like Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, The Del Lords and the Yayhoos. 25 years ago, Eric co-founded Cowboy Technical Services, a recording studio which has flourished, finding him to be highly sought after for his production skills. In this episode, we delve into his deep insights as a wearer of many hats. We'll discuss the creative process behind songs like Judas Kiss, his current work with Sarah Borges, and much, much more.

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Find out more about Eric Ambel:

https://www.ericambel.com

https://www.cowboytechnicalservices.com

https://www.instagram.com/the_ericambel

https://www.facebook.com/roscoenyc

https://www.youtube.com/@roscoenyc

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00:02:27 - Intro: Tom Compton welcomes Eric Ambel to Pursuing the Muse.

00:03:01 - Early Musical Journey & Late Songwriting Realization

00:05:00 - The Synergy of Musical Roles

00:06:23 - Midwest Rock Scene in the 70s

00:07:48 - From Small Town to Musical Path

00:08:49 - Pioneering Cowpunk in Wyoming

00:09:57 - From Laramie to Los Angeles

00:11:31 - Band Name Evolution

00:12:07 - Hollywood Club Circuit

00:12:48 - Joining Joan Jett & the Blackhearts

00:16:41 - Post-Jett Transition & Move to NYC

00:19:23 - The Genesis of The Del-Lords

00:21:28 - The Del Lords' Four-Frontman Vision

00:23:13 - Songwriting Dynamics & Credits

00:24:54 - Personal Songwriting & Home Recording

00:25:00 - Producing Career & Cowboy Technical Services

00:27:16 - The Evolution of "Judas Kiss"

00:30:10 - The Del Lords' Initial Split

00:31:33 - Joining Steve Earle's Dukes

00:38:38 - Steve Earle's Unique Songwriting & Recording Approach

00:35:50 - Songwriting Insights from Steve Earle

00:39:47 - The Formation of The Yayhoos

00:43:05 - Recording "Fear Not the Obvious" & Vinyl Release

00:45:20 - "Baby, I Love You" & "Slither" Placement

00:49:37 - Producer's Niche & Collaborations

00:50:52 - Songwriting with Sarah Borges

00:54:57 - Sarah Borges' Fearless Songwriting

00:57:50 - "Here Come My Love" from the Lakeside Album

00:59:59 - The Del Lords Reunion & Producing "Elvis Club"

01:03:39 - The Unfinished Del Lords Record

01:05:01 - Upcoming Production Projects

01:06:46 - Audio Movers & Remote Mixing Innovation

01:10:55 - "Song Guys" & Production Philosophy

01:13:54 - Where to Connect with Eric Ambel: Eric can be found at ericambel.com, Cowboy Technical's website (cowboytechnicalservices.com), and on Instagram (@the_ericambel) for updates, including "cat pictures and food pictures and, guitar pictures".

01:15:14 - Nostalgic Return to Fontana & Lake Geneva

01:16:23 - Fond Memories of Fontana

01:16:52 - Closing Remarks

Pursuing the Muse theme song "Neon Rails" by Joel Corelitz

Pursuing the Muse is back for season 3! In this episode, host Tom Compton sits down with singer-songwriter Jon Muq, whose debut album, Flying Away, was widely acclaimed. On Jon's journey from Uganda to Texas, Jon learned to craft vital, joyful songs that are very much needed in our world today. The discussion explores his new single "Hear My Voice" and the creation of his album, produced by Dan Auerbach. Jon shares profound insights into his optimistic worldview and unique approach to challenges, which fuels the celebration present in his music. He also talks about plans for a second album, as well as upcoming tours. Tune in to explore Jon Muq's captivating story and discover the soul behind his inspiring sound.

Find out more about Jon Muq:

https://jonmuq.com/

https://jonmuq.bandcamp.com/

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCONhA-kQkZF1jtViuhHMZbw

https://www.instagram.com/jonmuq/

https://www.facebook.com/Jonmuq/

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00:01:41 Introduction by Tom Compton, welcoming Jon Muq.

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00:02:19 Tom praises Jon Muq's album "Flying Away" as his favorite of 2024 and highlights his "happy songs".

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00:02:40 Jon's origins in Uganda, East Africa, currently in Austin, Texas.

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00:03:12 Discussion of when Jon started writing songs, beginning at age 15.

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00:03:38 Story of writing his first English song from a love letter for a friend.

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00:04:46 Jon's journey to Austin, starting with singing for homeless children in Kampala.

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00:05:46 Video of him singing online leads to connection with Norwegian Cruise Line.

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00:06:48 Passengers provided song recommendations, helping him build his list.

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00:08:08 After the cruise, opportunity arises at a refugee home in Austin.

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00:09:41 Initially, Jon had fear about writing his own English songs

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00:10:14 The couple he lived with inspired him to gain confidence and write more songs, leading to about 50 songs.

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00:11:09 Jon's songwriting process

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00:12:32 Discussion of his album "Flying Away" and its one-year anniversary.

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00:12:48 How Dan Auerbach discovered Jon.

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00:15:07 The album's recording process

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00:15:54 Writing "Hello Sunshine" inspiration

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00:17:41 Jon sometimes loses song ideas if he doesn't capture them quickly

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00:19:15 The vibrancy of his songs' source.

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00:19:15 Jon plans a second album

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00:20:28 His new single "Hear My Voice".

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00:23:03 The song's original title

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00:24:08 "Flying Away" features one cover.

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00:25:35 The recording studio vibe

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00:26:05 Upcoming tours.

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00:27:34 "Run Away" discussion.

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00:29:21 Jon's family.

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00:31:12 "Shake Shake" discussion.

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00:33:57 How Jon prefers to record albums.

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00:34:25 Audience response conversation.

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00:36:49 Jon discusses his song "Butterflies," written five years ago.

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00:39:34 When Jon thinks in his native language.

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00:40:55 Jon finds talks musical inspirations.

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00:43:56 processing American cultural differences.

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00:46:08 What songwriting is about for Jon.

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00:47:42 Jon's approach to situations

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00:49:14 What Jon's songs capture and communicate.

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00:50:19 Jon's parting advice

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00:50:50 Final farewells.

Pursuing the Muse theme song: "Neon Rails" by Joel Corelitz