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Jocko Podcast

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Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.

946 - 560: Leadership Is A Skill. Train It. With Jamie Cochran.
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  • 946 - 560: Leadership Is A Skill. Train It. With Jamie Cochran.

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    Jamie Cochran breaks down real-world leadership lessons from Echelon Front clients and organizations. They discuss overcoming resistance, merging cultures, developing leaders, taking ownership without doing everything yourself, and why leadership is a skill that must be continuously practiced.



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    Wed, 30 Sep 2026
  • 945 - Jocko Underground: The Reality When Your Boss Sucks and You Don't Respect Him At All.

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    00:40 — How do I respect a leader I don’t respect or trust?

    15:21 — How do I solve problems aggressively without being out of control?

    27:22 — Should I keep pursuing more responsibility if it’s making work stressful?

    38:55 — How do I stay calm when my kids are melting down?

    54:38 — How important is competing in Jiu-Jitsu, and is it worth the injury risk?



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    Mon, 28 Sep 2026
  • 944 - 559: Turning Unimaginable Loss Into Purpose. The Legacy of Marc Lee. With Debbie Mama Lee

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    Twenty years after Navy SEAL Marc Lee was killed in Ramadi, his mother Debbie “Mama Lee” Lee joins Jocko and Echo to reflect on grief, faith, brotherhood, and the legacy Marc left behind. They discuss the work of America’s Mighty Warriors, helping veterans heal from the invisible wounds of war, supporting Gold Star families, and turning unimaginable loss into a mission to help others.


    00:00 – 20 Years Since Mark Lee’s Death

    Mama Lee reflects on losing Mark, faith, grief, and the extraordinary legacy that has grown from his sacrifice.

    14:40 – Mama Lee Returns

    Debbie Lee joins Jocko and Echo to reflect on the Task Unit Bruiser reunion and seeing Mark’s teammates together again after 20 years.

    25:12 – Brotherhood Forged in Ramadi

    Remembering fallen teammates, reconnecting with old friends, and why staying connected to the people who shared the experience matters.

    35:22 – Random Acts of Kindness

    How Mark’s final message inspired America’s Mighty Warriors to provide immediate help to veterans, military families, and others in crisis.

    39:30 – Choosing to Keep Fighting Through Grief

    Mama Lee describes the devastation of losing a child and the decision to turn that pain into purpose and service.

    45:28 – You Won’t Feel Like This Forever

    Jocko and Mama Lee discuss the overwhelming nature of grief, losing control of your emotions, and learning to ride the wave until you can move forward.

    1:00:35 – Get It Out of Your Head

    Why talking, writing, sharing stories, and connecting with others can help process pain instead of allowing it to grow darker inside.

    1:12:40 – Healing the Invisible Wounds of War

    Mama Lee explains Helping Heroes Heal, traumatic brain injuries, blast exposure, sleep problems, suicide, and the veterans whose lives have been changed through treatment.

    1:26:00 – Helping Veterans and Gold Star Families Heal

    The retreats, treatment programs, and plans for a dedicated facility designed to bring veterans and families together while supporting their recovery.

    1:31:14 – Gold Star Families and the Power of Helping Others

    Mama Lee discusses retreats for Gold Star parents and families, while Jocko reflects on how even a small act of kindness can completely change someone’s outlook.



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    Wed, 23 Sep 2026
  • 943 - 558: What We Can Learn From John Spencer Almost Dying 20 Times.

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    Urban warfare expert and retired Army officer John Spencer returns to share stories from 20 Times I Almost Died, from Ranger School and Iraq to Ukraine, Gaza, and some incredibly close calls. Along the way, John and Jocko break down leadership, intuition, modern warfare, resilience, and the importance of developing a personal code to live by.

    00:00 – John Spencer: 20 Times I Almost Died

    02:53 – Kashmir: India, Pakistan & Modern Warfare

    05:10 – Lebanon, Hezbollah & the Changing Battlefield

    11:17 – Ukraine, Drones & the Future of War

    15:54 – Inside a Hamas Tunnel Under Gaza

    24:43 – Iraq: Common Sense, Orders & Leadership

    39:08 – The IED Trap: Trusting Your Intuition

    45:28 – “Pepper”: The Fight That Cost John His Ear

    1:08:27 – The “Sopranos of Baghdad” & Humility

    1:29:02 – Ukraine, Bucha & the Will to Resist

    1:38:00 – Ranger School: “You Can Always Quit Tomorrow”

    1:44:03 – The Best Ranger Competition & a 40-Foot Fall

    1:55:48 – Iraq: A Deadly Humvee Crash & Duty

    2:01:31 – Azerbaijan’s Special Forces & the Battle of Shusha

    2:11:08 – Going Full Rambo as an OPFOR Soldier

    2:16:01 – The Mission to Capture Saddam Hussein

    2:27:05 – The Current Situation in Gaza

    2:42:38 – Who Are You? Building a Code to Live By

    2:53:21 – Closing Thoughts With John Spencer

    2:54:19 – Jocko & Echo Closing / Supporters



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    Wed, 16 Sep 2026
  • 942 - Jocko Underground: This is How to be a Dependable Warrior.

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    How to be a dependable warrior.

    At what point does being ultra competitive become a weakness?

    How to mentally get back on track in life.

    How to kick the remaining vices in your life.

    How to guide a 3 year old in life.



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    Mon, 14 Sep 2026
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