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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares Part 1 of "Corrections" to the 1956 movie, "The Ten Commandments." Christians and others watch that TV movie each year on Resurrection Sunday (aka "Easter"), even though the topic of the movie is actually NOT about the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Mark Henkel had watched this movie back on April 3, 1994, and recently again on March 31, 2024. This podcast Episode #316 was released on April 3, 2024 - exactly 30 years after he had watched the movie back on April 3, 1994. Starting this multi-part mini-series, Mark Henkel also teases that these corrections do specifically connect to the movement of Christian Polygamy which led to the overall movement of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel begins the coming 7th year of weekly episodes of this podcast. Since the actual 6th Year Anniversary of March 21, 2024, this episode formally begins this next year of episodes. Mark Henkel shares some sincerely personal information, references some of the ongoing subtopics that will continue, and invites listeners to share ideas that could be addressed in future episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel personally celebrates the milestone of 6 years of weekly episodes of this podcast. The podcast’s first episode premiered on March 21, 2018. Mark Henkel also celebrates the new 1 year anniversary since the podcast transformed from archiving his numerous past media interviews into being directly-spoken tools for history, teaching, lessons-learned, personal details, and more.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the 4th of the 6 Questions that the Supreme Court of the United States addressed in (this Part 5 of this multi-part mini-series regarding) Reynolds v. United States Decision of 1878. That "Question 4" to be determined by the Supreme Court in the case, asked, "4. Was the testimony of Amelia Jane Schofield, given at a former trial for the same offence, but under another indictment, improperly admitted in evidence?” This is the episode that asks all listeners to "Imagine a world where your wife or husband -against their will- could be compelled to testify against YOU for marrying YOU!"

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the RECAP of Questions #1, #2, and #3 of the 6 Questions that the Supreme Court of the United States addressed in (this RECAP 123 of this multi-part mini-series regarding) Reynolds v. United States Decision of 1878. By having this consolidated understanding of the first half of the 6 Questions, listeners will be hereby more prepared to contemplate the next 3 Questions to be shared in future coming podcast episodes.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the 3nd of the 6 Questions that the Supreme Court of the United States addressed in (this Part 4 of this multi-part mini-series regarding)Reynolds v. United States Decision of 1878. That "Question 3" to be determined by the Supreme Court in the case, asked, “3. Were the challenges of certain other jurors by the government improperly sustained?” Chief Justice Waite's response continued yet again with the same clever nuanced word-game, applying a double-standard in hypocrisy that revealed the Court's bias.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the 2nd of the 6 Questions that the Supreme Court of the United States addressed in (this Part 3 of this multi-part mini-series regarding) Reynolds v. United States Decision of 1878. That "Question 2" to be determined by the Supreme Court in the case, asked, “2. Were the challenges of certain petit jurors by the accused improperly overruled?” Chief Justice Waite's response continued with the same clever nuanced word-game that he had already started with "Question 1" and that he would still take even further as he later addressed the remaining questions.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares how a TOILET made a truly Happy Valentines Day for a precious wife and his whole family. With storytelling style, Mark Henkel shares how he and his family will always remember this happy memory as the "Year of The Toilet" on Valentine's Day 2024. Listeners will also learn of a tactic that the government uses to bypass the Constitution that poses a "terror for polygamists." Without revealing anything that could be perceived as breaking any law against polygamy, this episode also reveals a deeper and more personal insight into Mark Henkel's deep love for a wife and for his whole family. Happy Valentines Day 2024, the "Year of the Toilet!"

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the 1st of the 6 Questions that the Supreme Court of the United States addressed in (this Part 2 of this multi-part mini-series regarding) Reynolds v. United States Decision of 1878. That "Question 1" to be determined by the Supreme Court in the case, asked, "1. Was the indictment bad because found by a grand jury of less than sixteen persons?" Chief Justice Waite's response opened the overall decision with a clever nuanced game that he would take further as he later addressed the remaining questions.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel provides the INTRO (as Part 1) to new multi-part mini-series of the Reynolds v. United States Decision by the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) in 1878. In previous episodes, Mark Henkel has shared Step 1, Step 2, and "The INTERIM" of the originating 4 steps of the "Government Subterfuge of Anti-Polygamy Laws." For this Step 3, "SCOTUS Decision: Reynolds v. United States of 1878," Mark Henkel will share all of Step 3 as a multi-part mini-series of several podcast episodes. In this Part 1 / INTRO episode here, Mark Henkel shares the specific"6 questions" that the 1878 SCOTUS was asked to address in the case. To be more fully prepared for this mini-series, listeners will want to have first listened to Episode #306 (the last previous one) for the RECAP.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares a RECAP of recent past episodes of the larger mini-series, "Government Subterfuge of Anti-Polygamy Laws." He refers to Episodes #297, 298 (Step 1), 299 (Step 2), and 301 (The INTERIM). Mark Henkel explains that sharing Step 3 will require more comprehensive information. He explains that he will thus create a multi-part mini-series (within this larger mini-series) for detailing Step 3, to be identified as "SCOTUS Decision: Reynold v. United States of 1878." That coming mini-series will be concluded with a "WRAP-UP" episode before then sharing Step 4. Listeners will find this episode as a helpful resource for finding the previous information in this larger series of the originating 4 Steps of the "Government Subterfuge of Anti-Polygamy Laws."

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel explains why the two terms,"poly-monogamy" and "democracy," are similar in their juxtapositions of meanings - when they are right to use and when they are not. Mark Henkel teaches how America is based on "democracy" in DESCRIPTION but is not "A democracy" in APPLICATION. Mark Henkel then shows how the same contrast applies to "poly-monogamy" in regard to polygamy. Although brief, this episode offers much deeper insight and information than many listeners might have otherwise expected.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel explains why the implosion of the family on the "Sister Wives" TV show was NOT a "failure of polygamy." Despite anti-polygamists trying to propagandize that false notion, Mark Henkel not only shows that calling it a "failure of polygamy" is a lie, but he succinctly and directly shows why. Quoting himself from what he said on Polygamy Day ® 23, Mark Henkel lists out the three key events that provided foresight of the family's inevitable falling apart. Pro-polygamists will find this episode as a useful resource and important tool for proving this point and showing what kind of failure it actually and only proves. Anti-polygamists, if they allow themselves, will surely be educated with a deeper understanding.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares his personal stories, showing how difficult and tragic the Year 2023 had been for his family. Mark Henkel both finds and inspires hope as he welcomes the coming Year 2024 and wishes all a Happy New Year. Connecting this Episode #303 of January 3, 2024, to the episodes of the previous year 2023, listeners may learn and understand what Mark Henkel was personally going through at the times when various episodes of this podcast were created and posted. Some who listen to this episode might find it both inspiring ad well as insightful about the National Polygamy Advocate, himself.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares a new celebration/wrap-up of the 22 books he read over the previous year -the books that the National Polygamy Advocate read in 2023. When anti-polygamists try to use a commonly-tried smear-tactic that attempts to suggest that pro-polygamists – or Mark Henkel, himself - are supposedly “uninformed, uneducated, or just downright stupid,” this Episode #302 demonstrates for all listeners (including such anti-polygamists) that such a smear-tactic is now evidentiarily, clearly, and provably false.“But wait! There’s more!” How so? Activists, supporters, and all listeners will certainly both find that answer and find a benefit by listening through to the end of this Episode #302 of December 27, 2023.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the INTERIM, defined as the period between The Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act of 1862and the Supreme Court Decision of Reynolds v. United States of 1878. This episode begins with the history of US government through that period and then concludes with the rise of the new religion in the 1800s of what is commonly known as "the Mormons." Understanding this INTERIM provides listeners with the essential context of the period: from when the first anti-polygamy law was passed to when the Supreme Court later first affirmed it, all via the government subterfuge. Many listeners are apt to find this episode more enjoyably educational about the relevant history than they might have otherwise expected.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel celebrates this 300th weekly episode of the National Polygamy Advocate™PODCAST. Mark Henkel explains how, starting from March 21, 2018, the podcast initially began as an archive for history of the past media interviews he has given for UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Since previously celebrating the 5th Year Anniversary earlier in March 2023, Mark Henkel explains how the podcast then started airing weekly episodes in which he shares and speaks directly about related UCAP polygamy issues. Listeners will enjoy both this episode and celebrating this historic new milestone too.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the "STEP 2" of the 4 Steps of the Government Subterfuge that created Anti-Polygamy Laws in the United States in the 1800s. Continuing the educational sharing from the previous two episodes, this Episode #299 teaches about the very first anti-polygamy law, the “Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act of 1862.” Activists, supporters, listeners, and even anti-polygamy apologists will be apt to want to listen (and re-listen) to this episode (and mini-series of episodes) more than once.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the "STEP 1" of the Government Subterfuge that created Anti-Polygamy Laws in the 1800s. Back in the previous episode (Episode #297), Mark Henkel had introduced the 4 origins -the "4 Steps"- that established the anti-polygamy laws in the United States. For this current episode here (Episode #298), Mark Henkel provides the background and details of that first step. Mark Henkel uncovers that "Step 1" of the longer-term strategic process by which the US Federal Government cleverly, deceptively, and knowingly bypassed the Constitution to bring about the tyranny of such otherwise anti-Constitutional laws. First-time listeners might find it helpful to first listen to the previous Episode #297 as a more generic background and preparatory summary preceding this episode here. Indeed, this Episode #298 here is so chock full of important, relevant political history of the era (even in addition to the primary matter of anti-polygamy laws) that many listeners might find themselves learning a number of surprising facts which they might likely have never been taught before. Supporters will learn a three-word phrase to never forget how the government achieved this exposed subterfuge. Activists, supporters, listeners, and even anti-polygamy apologists will be apt to find this episode to be genuinely significant, credible, and informative enough to which most people will want to listen (and re-listen) more than once.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares how the US' anti-polygamy laws were NEVER pro-woman. Mark Henkel runs through a concise history-timeline from the original Republican Party presidents, to the Democrat vs. Whig Party presidents, to the Democrat vs NEW Republican Party presidents. Mark Henkel details the first party plank, passed laws, and Supreme Court decisions that criminalized UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, in the United States. Mark Henkel pulls all these facts of history together that combine to prove the startling yet inescapable conclusion of this podcast episode's title. Listeners may find this Episode #297 as an important resource for refuting a commonly used false claim made by anti-polygamists.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares a number of the assertions that anti-polygamists use against defenders of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. By listing out some of these notions in this brief Episode #296, Mark Henkel opens up topics for future episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares and re-summarizes the HOW & WHO questions in this sub-series on persuading anti-polygamists. The previous episode (Episodes #294 of November 1, 2023) presented Part 1. The past 10 episodes before that (Episodes #284 - #293, from August 23 - October 25, 2023) may be understood as being divided into 2 parts. Part 1 comprise the first 4 episodes of the ten; and, Part 2 comprises the final 6 episodes of the ten. For Part 2 here, in this Episode #295, Mark Henkel shows how the fifth episode provides the "HOW" and the sixth through tenth episodes provide the "WHO" in this approach to persuading anti-polygamists to allow UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Listeners will additionally benefit from listening (or listening again) to the previous 11 episodes, whether for deeper context or for a quick refresher of the lessons presented.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares and re-summarizes the WHAT & WHY questions in this sub-series on persuading anti-polygamists. The previous 10 episodes (Episodes #284 - #293, from August 23 - October 25, 2023) may be divided into 2 parts. The first 4 episodes of the ten comprise Part 1; and, the final 6 episodes of the ten comprise Part 2. For Part 1, in this Episode #294, Mark Henkel shows how the first 3 episodes provide the "WHAT" and the fourth episode provides the "WHY" in this approach to persuading anti-polygamists to allow UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Listeners will additionally benefit from listening (or re-listening) to the previous 10 episodes, whether for deeper context or for a quick refresher of the lessons presented.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel answers the question, "Who will this even persuade? The Libertarians.” This Episode #293 shows how to help Libertarians self-persuade themselves to allow UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Mark Henkel shares how to help such Libertarians maintain their Cognitive Consistency by recognizing that their supporting UCAP will be also absolutely aligned with their own “more important, higher-level contextual beliefs.” Mark Henkel shows how Libertarians tend to believe 2, if not 3, of the Liberals’ (listed) beliefs, to also believe 2, if not 3, of the Conservatives’ (listed) beliefs, and to oppose “victimless crimes” of “Potheads & Prostitutes.” Listeners will certainly obtain value from listening (or re-listening) to the previous 9 episodes, whether for deeper context or for a quick refresher of the lessons presented.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelanswers the question, "Who will this even persuade? The Christians.” This Episode #292 shows how to help Christians self-persuade themselves to allow UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Without going into the voluminously numerous Bible-citations, Mark Henkel instead shares how to help such Christians maintain their Cognitive Consistency by recognizing that their supporting UCAP will be also absolutely aligned with their own “more important, higher-level contextual beliefs” as well as with their even higher level values as Christians. This episode shares how and when to respond to various Christians with the following three questions. "Are you calling Jesus, even God the Father, as perverts?" “You would not want to blaspheme the Holy Ghost, would you?” “You would not want to be an idolator, would you?” Listeners will additionally benefit from listening (or re-listening) to the previous 8 episodes, whether for deeper context or for a quick refresher of the lessons presented.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel answers the question, "Who will this even persuade? The Conservatives.” This Episode #291 shows how to help political “Conservatives” self-persuade themselves to allow UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Mark Henkel shares how to help such Conservatives maintain their Cognitive Consistency by recognizing that their supporting UCAP will be also absolutely aligned with their own “more important, higher-level contextual beliefs.” Listeners will additionally benefit from listening (or re-listening) to the previous 7 episodes, whether for deeper context or for a quick refresher of the lessons presented.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel answers the question, "Who will this even persuade? The Liberals.” This Episode #290 shows how to help political “Liberals” self-persuade themselves to allow UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Mark Henkel shares how to help such Liberals maintain their Cognitive Consistency by recognizing that their supporting UCAP will be also absolutely aligned with their own “more important, higher-level contextual beliefs.” Listeners will additionally benefit from listening (or re-listening) to the previous 6 episodes, whether for deeper context or for a quick refresher of the lessons presented.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel answers the "WHO?"question about persuading anti-polygamists and/or "One Man One Woman" (OMOW) supporters to stop disallowing UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Namely, "Who will this even persuade?" Relying upon the previous 5 podcast episodes, this Episode #289 begins the answer to the question - as a prelude to the next coming episodes that will each address specific groups of anti-polygamists or others who are not yet supporters of UCAP polygamy. Listeners will additionally find value in listening (or re-listening) to the previous 5 episodes, whether for greater context or for a simple refresher of the lessons shared.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelanswers the "HOW?" question about persuading anti-polygamists and/or "One Man One Woman" (OMOW) supporters to allow UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. This directly follows the previous podcast Episode which answered the question, "Why should I even care?" In this subsequent episode, Mark Henkel shares and shows that, before we ask "Who will this even persuade?" we must first know the answer to the question, "How do we persuade them?" Listeners will likely also benefit from listening (or re-listening) to the previous four episodes, either for greater context or for a simple refresher of the lessons shared.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel summarizes "The Destructive Perils of One Man One Woman.” Anti-polygamists often ask the question, "Why should I even care?" Mark Henkel provides activists and supporters with the meaningful, powerful, and persuasive answer. Sourced from the previous three podcast episodes of "The Story of 10 Men & 10 Women," "Marital Marxism," and "The Era of Dumbed Down Males," Mark Henkel shares how activists and supporters can learn to show others why such others do care if they do care about women, men, and society. Listeners seeking to learn how to share this meaningful answer will likely want to refresh their memories and want to listen to this episode and the previous three podcast episodes more than once.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the details of our current "Era of Dumbed Down Males."  This episode continues the theme from the two previous podcast episodes about the "10 Man & 10 Women"story and “Marital Marxism.”  From abandoned single moms to “playas” to “baby daddies,” from jokes about marriage to quoting Oscar Wilde, addressing terms from “Toxic Masculinity” to “Beta Males,” and more, Mark Henkel shows how these kinds of things over the last century and a half has led to men becoming so afraid of marriage, giving us this current era.  Mark Henkel shows how the Polygamy Rights Win-Win Solution can actually help to incentivize men to want to become better men for the women to choose, as he calls for us to end our “Era of Dumbed Down Males.”

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Ep#285 - Published: Aug. 30, 2023

National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares why One Man One Woman (OMOW) is what he calls, “Marital Marxism.” Mark Henkel explains the ideology of Karl Marx, the 19th century writer who wrote “The Communist Manifesto.” Mark Henkel explains that Marxism is the ideology of re-distribution, the foundation of socialism and communism. Building on the previous Episode #284 of August 23, 2023, with his “Story of the 10 Men and 10 Women,” Mark Henkel shows in this Episode #285 of August 30, 2023, how OMOW is a re-distribution of the better women to the jerk-men, disincentivizing all men from even trying to become better men for the women to choose.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares his famous sound-bite story of "The 10 Men and 10 Women."  This story exposes the unwitting hypocrisy of anti-polygamists who oppose UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, while saying they support Women’s Choice.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares how August 19 became the trademark-protected Polygamy Day ®. Mark Henkel tells the story of how the first "Polygamy Day" began in 2001, how the Polygamy Day, Inc. corporation was established in 2002, and how the trademark was registered in 2007. Mark Henkel details how the fact of the first celebration occurring in 2001 made it easy to identify it as "Polygamy Day 1" and to label each subsequent year by the last number of the respective year. For example, the celebration in 2023 is "Polygamy Day 23." Mark Henkel tells how Polygamy Day ® originated among activist members of the TruthBearer.org organization and transformed into an expansion to include any form of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, to also celebrate. While providing the history of Polygamy Day ®, this Episode #283 also quietly demonstrates the subtle leadership that went into making this very special annual celebration both possible and protected. Listeners are asked, "What will you do to celebrate the NEXT Polygamy Day ®?"

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares and declares, "What Is Unfair," as a response to the repeated culturally indoctrinated assertion that mistakenly suggests a falsehood that supposedly "polygamy is unfair." Mark Henkel uses an entertaining storytelling dialog style to show how the opposite is true, revealing really, "What Is Unfair." Activists and supporters will want to use/share the link for this podcast episode when encountering this false assertion made by anyone else not yet supportive of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel celebrates 100 hours of audio-content posted to this podcast over the last five-plus years. Mark Henkel explains how he uses this episode as a citable-resource for activists and supporters to use when answering any questions asked by others about this podcast. He also cites the average time-lengths of episodes and related statistics. Although this Episode #281 here is a shorter one, Mark Henkel shares how other episodes have been almost 3 hours long. Supportive listeners and general researchers are likely to enjoy learning about this quick information about the podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel, finishing a series of the previous 3 episodes, shares what he had to learn & grow, SO FAR, through the beginning of the 2020s for the modern polygamy rights movement for unrelated consenting adults. Mark Henkel tells of the pandemic he calls “Covid1984” and both shares & honors two close, helpful, and dear polygamous friends who had passed away. Mark Henkel explains how he became a serous reader of non-fiction books (to self-determine how he qualitatively wants to write his own books) and shares how he expanded his topics of keynote speeches even beyond UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, to increase his public speaking skills for the movement. After noting the change in direction of this podcast to involve his speaking directly to listeners, Mark Henkel observes that, with this Episode #280, this podcast has just crossed the milestone of over 100 hours of audio-content. Happily acknowledging how much he has clearly had to learn & grow over the decades, Mark Henkel concludes the 4-episode mini-series, sharing his enthusiasm and anticipation for whatever else he is going learn & grow for the rest of the 2020s ahead.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel, continuing a series of the previous two podcast episodes, shares what he had to learn and grow throughout the 2010s decade for the modern polygamy rights movement for unrelated consenting adults. Mark Henkel tells of how he had to learn and grow to become a professional-level Public Speaker, a privacy-protector for supporters, a manager of the problematic tech giant sites, a podcast-uploader, and a person ever-keeping hope under disappointment. In this longer, comprehensive Episode #279, Mark Henkel shares what he did to learn and grow his public skills that even led to his being asked to professionally present a keynote about polygamy at Yale, the challenges of the "tech giants" interfering in getting a messages seen and heard on the internet, and the Supreme Court cases that should have otherwise been helpful for polygamy rights for UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Listeners will genuinely discover much more in this episode than they might otherwise anticipate. As Mark Henkel keeps repeating in this brief series, for the dedicated work of fighting for our freedom, there is much he had to learn and grow.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel, continuing a new series of new podcast episodes, shares what he personally had to learn and to grow throughout the years of the 2000s decade for the modern polygamy rights movement for unrelated consenting adults. With the Standard of Love-not-Force bringing healing and growth, the decade of the 2000s started with much hope. Mark Henkel shares his history-storytelling about Y2K, Web 2.0, Polygamy Day ®, being on Pat Robertson's "700 Club" TV program, and how the tech giants of Google, Yahoo, and Facebook brought a more disappointing end to that decade. Mark Henkel lists his role throughout the 2000s, including being a Trademark mini-expert, a Webhosting Server owner, a Writer and Rhetorician, a Media Talking Head, a Legal "expert" (while not an attorney), and able to grow beyond serving Christian Polygamy to also becoming the overall National Polygamy Advocate. From all this, Mark Henkel still had more to learn and grow in the next decades to come.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel,starting a new series of new podcast episodes, shares what he personally had to learn and to grow throughout the years of the modern polygamy rights movement for unrelated consenting adults. In this Episode #277, the first installment in the series, Mark Henkel shares what he to learn and grow in the decade of the 1990s. Finding that the idea of “prohibiting polygamy” is nowhere in the Bible and finding that the words, “marriage” and “polygamy” are nowhere in the US Constitution, Mark Henkel understood that he had to study both the Bible and the Constitution intensely in order to present and help teach others to present the issue to the public. Mark Henkel lists his role throughout the 1990s, including being and becoming an intense student, a newspaper publisher, a home-church pastor, a webmaster, a teacher, and a leader on the national -even international- stage. And all that was just the beginning.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares the reasons why Polyamory is Not Polygamy. Adding to the list of word-definitions he has shared in recent episodes of this podcast, Mark Henkel adds this new word, “Polyamory,” to that list. Mark Henkel refers to word etymologies, shows what Polyamory is, how it is different from Polygamy, and ends with a memorable soundbite metaphor to make it easy to always remember the difference between Polyamory and Polygamy.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares a number of milestones - all occurring on June 26th - throughout the history of the modern movement of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, which was made possible first by the beginning of Christian Polygamy. Mark Henkel reveals his own personal story of how everything all began for him on June 26, 1993, and how that date both changed his life and confirmed his life. Listeners will find this Episode both uniquely informative and inspiringly insightful for acknowledging and celebrating the 30 years from June 26, 1993, through June 26, 2023.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares and explains the difference between HONEST POLYGAMY vs DISHONEST BIGAMY. Mark Henkel demonstrates how the Standard of Love-Not-Force and the self-identification of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, delineate the valid definition of HONEST POLYGAMY. Mark Henkel then shares how an example from a movie in 1996, titled, “Frequent Flier,” provides a perfect example of the deception and cruelty of DISHONEST BIGAMY. Mark Henkel then shows how DISHONEST BIGAMY could reasonably be treated as either a crime or as a tort. This episode provides the final difference between the meanings of the words POLYGAMY and BIGAMY, as demonstrated from the difference between HONEST POLYGAMY vs DISHONEST BIGAMY.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares how the meaning of the word BIGAMYis different from the word POLYGAMY. He corrects the common misunderstanding that suggests the following untrue mis-definitions: "Bigamy is marrying two wives and polygamy is marrying more than two wives." Citing the specific BIGAMY statute from his own State of Maine, Mark Henkel guides the listener through the ramifications of the law. He also reveals and explains how the “purports clause” even criminalizes free speech for honest polygamists in UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Listeners should find that this episode not only continues forward from the recent episodes of providing education regarding specific terminology, but it also does so in a fun, entertaining, and yet fully serious presentation style.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares how the Polygamy Rights "Victory Lap" was robbed by Covid1984. In this Episode #272, Mark Henkel shares a historic milestone that occurred in bigamy law. Using his storytelling style, Mark Henkel tells of what he calls "Covid1984," teaches how federal government (under both Presidents Trump and Biden) failed its duty under Article 4 Section 4 of the US Constitution (which Mark Henkel quotes), references what he calls the "government murder" of George Floyd, and explains why he spells the word "PolicE" in way that listeners will not soon forget. (Yes, he makes it clear that he certainly supports police for protecting innocents from real crime.) Mark Henkel explains why the new bigamy legal milestone is so important while also quoting the Utah State Constitution. Mark Henkel shows how these events robbed the polygamy rights movement for UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, from being able to have a "media victory lap" to further fight for freedom. From such storytelling of these events, listeners will find this episode to be loaded with information and education.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel shares why he is not the "NationalPOLYGYNYAdvocate." In this Episode #271, Mark Henkel teaches the meanings of the words, Polygamy, Polyandry, and Polygyny. After that, he shares the three reasons why he is NOT the "National POLYGYNYAdvocate." Listeners will find this episode as both educational and fun.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel - who created the word, "Polygadolatry," to define a a serious problem - shares why he chose to spell it with the letter "A" after the letter "G," instead of using the letter "I." With humorous background of ongoing debates of how to pronounce ".GIF" and "polygyny," Mark Henkel humorously shares the final, funny, and fun reason why "Polygadolatry" is spelled that way. Regardless of polygamy advocacy, anyone anywhere who has ever participated in either of those other debates will likely also find this podcast Episode #270 to be educational as well as both, funny and fun.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel teaches against the perils of "Polygadolatry" as he shares the history of the early polygamy movement from the 1990s. In the previous episode of this podcast, Mark Henkel provided three primary reasons why he is the National Polygamy Advocate, not the National Polygamist. As a follow up, here, Mark Henkel shares the 4th reason, one which applies to all three of the previous reasons. Mark Henkel shares how Polygadolatry appeared as a problematic phenomenon in the 1990s with a couple criminal cult leaders that hurt wives as well as foolish husbands, devastated families, and threatened to destroy the young movement for all genuinely normal pro-polygamists. Mark Henkel passionately teaches “Polygadolatry is wrong on every level,” that “we are all equals as human beings,” and that no "practicing polygamist" should ever be viewed as “superior” to any non-practicing pro-polygamy families or supporters. For those seeking to get inside-information and direct education about the early years of the Christian Polygamy movement and the overall larger movement of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, this Episode #269 is another important “must hear.”

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel directly shares why the meaning of “National Polygamy ADVOCATE” ™ does NOT mean “National POLYGAMIST.  Mark Henkel provides three primary reasons, empowering every genuine supporter seeking to successfully persuade others to allow freedom for families in UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy.  He shows how this movement is NOT a “cult of personality,” that it is a movement of rhetoric & principles, and that any sincere supporter of these UCAP rhetoric and principles is indeed qualified to advocate for polygamy.  He concludes that the brand name, “National Polygamy Advocate,” has always been about setting an example for all such supporters. Mark Henkel wraps this episode up with a surprising addition: teasing a prelude for the next coming Episode (#269) in this podcast.  This Episode #268 here is a “must hear” for any UCAP polygamy supporter seeking to persuade others.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel directly shares the answer to the question, “Why is He the National Polygamy Advocate ™?  Was he elected to the role?  What does the name even mean?  Mark Henkel answers the question as he explains the past dangers for advocating polygamy back in the 1990s and 2020s, the need to correct and inform what he identifies as the “Manufactured News Corporations,”how no other non-Mormon, normal, non-criminal proponent was willing to step up for Christian Polygamy and the larger overall movement of UCAP (Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy), and how he lives by a principle he labels as “Leadership Leads.”   This podcast Episode #267 succinctly informs listeners with the specific answer to the title question.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel directly shares his personal story, on the 30th Anniversary, of how the Waco Massacre had transformed him into an Iconoclast, on April 19, 1993.  This is the true story of what Mark Henkel observed and witnessed of the events from the “news purports” regarding the Branch Davidians when the US government willingly made up a lie in order to self-justify deliberately mass murdering almost 80 US citizens, including women, children, and babies.  Mark Henkel explains how “Waco was my ‘Kent State;’" and, he explains how he had come to know of that earlier "Kent State" event from 1970.  In this episode, Mark Henkel references songs by Neil Young and Lynyrd Skynyrd (and even sings brief lyrics!) as he makes relevant side commentary about Neil Young’s rejection of freedom and free speech in 2022. From this truly unique story, listeners will gain a truly deep understanding of how and why Mark Henkel became an Iconoclast, and how that explains how and why he came to be the National Polygamy Advocate… and more.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel asks and answers the question, “Is the National Polygamy Advocate a TOOL?”  With chuckling yet confident self-deprecating humor, he even humorously asks, “Am I a TOOL?”  With this Episode #265, Mark Henkel provides a concise history of the movement of both Christian Polygamy and the larger overall movement of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy.  He more specifically details how resources were developed to help people further spread the word of the argumentations and of the movements.  And Mark Henkel concludes the episode with both a chuckle and an encouragement to all friends, supporters, listeners, and sharers.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel directly shares how this podcast had been improved from its beginning and early development. The previous two episodes respectively shared how this podcast first BEGAN on March 21, 2018, and was further DEVELOPED by June 26, 2018. In this Episode #264, Mark Henkel explains the third special software had to be obtained, how much time was and is involved in producing each episode, why the improvements caused numerous episodes over the previous year (in 2022) to be divided into shorter parts, and more. The combination of the previous two episodes (#262 and #263) and this episode here (#264) answers the questions of how this podcast was BEGUN, further DEVELOPED, and subsequently IMPROVED.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkeldirectly shares how this podcast developed after it had begun on March 21, 2018. The previous episode shared how the podcast BEGAN; this episode shares how it DEVELOPED after that beginning. In this Episode #263, Mark Henkel explains what happened after the first three episodes, what kind of new software had to be obtained, how the bumpers were added to each episode, how the podcast was formally announced to the public on June 26, 2018, and more. In next week's Episode #264, Mark Henkel continues the story, sharing the technical aspects of how the podcast proceeded from that original development.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel, in a storytelling manner, directly shares how this podcast began. As this Episode #262 begins the 6th year of the National Polygamy Advocate ™ Podcast, Mark Henkel explains what led up to the decision to start podcasting. He also reveals the initial difficulties that had to be overcome in order to produce and post the very first Episode #1 on March 21, 2018. In next week's Episode #263, Mark Henkel continues the story of how the podcast proceeded from that auspicious beginning.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel personally celebrates the milestone of 261 weekly episodes of this podcast - Part 2.  In this Part 2, Mark Henkel continues to talk directly to the listeners. Celebrating that so many of his past media interviews have now been archived for history, Mark Henkel offers an extensive list of specific possibilities for future podcast episode topics.  Also, once again, Mark Henkel invites listeners to let him know what topics they would like to hear him speak about.  As next week's episode will begin the 6th year of new podcast episodes, this episode is the final part of this 2-part celebration.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel personally celebrates the milestone of 260 weekly episodes of this podcast - Part 1.  In this Part 1, Mark Henkel talks directly to the listeners. Celebrating that so many of his past media interviews have now been archived for history, Mark Henkel perceives and ponders that perhaps this is now the time to add some different topical content and archiving, all relating to UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Mark Henkel thanks supporters and listeners, invites listeners to send in AUDIO Messages, and emphasizes, "I would love to hear what YOU think, what YOU would like for me to do with upcoming podcast episodes." Mark Henkel also assures listeners that, in the upcoming Part 2 of this celebration (in the next podcast episode), he will "list out more specific and various possibilities for future podcast episode topics."

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Kirsten Fenswick of The Incubator of FOX TV Studios, on August 29, 2007 - Part 4  The producer was looking for polygamous families to produce a documentary.  Prior to the interview, Mark Henkel had informed the producer that past situations with FOX had caused families in UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, to distrust it as a "Manufactured News Corporation."  The producer had started the interview off by making a couple mistakes right away - including starting it by making a "Circus Act Request" ("C.A.R.") that causes further problems regarding UCAP families' distrust of FOX (as being no different than other manufactured news corporations).  Mark Henkel tried to offer her explanatory corrections to help her to move beyond false stereotypes.  Mark Henkel detailed, "The media only wants to talk about, and put circus acts of actual practicing families on display, only so that people can go 'Ooh' and 'Ahh.'  And at the end of the day, they say, "Oh they're weird and I'm not going to support them!" rather than have the rhetorical debate..." Mark Henkel pleaded:"We need the ability and the allowance to make our case to the public without the circus act because the circus act never works, and always allows the media in control of the circus act display to manipulate it according to its own designs, make their fat paychecks, and leave the families to suffer when it's done." The producer did not understand that Mark Henkel was explaining the temporary challenge that she and he would have to overcome and resolve so that they could go further in the project."  Instead, the producer quickly seemed irritated and brought the discussion to a premature close.  Mark Henkel simply re-iterated his actual point, "I'm telling you where we're coming from."This is the final Part of this particular interview.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Kirsten Fenswick of The Incubator of FOX TV Studios, on August 29, 2007 - Part 3.  The producer was looking for polygamous families to produce a documentary.  Prior to the interview, Mark Henkel had informed the producer that past situations with FOX had caused families in UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, to distrust it as a "Manufactured News Corporation."  As she made what Mark Henkel identified as a "Circus Act Request" ("C.A.R."), the producer then defaulted to Mormon Polygamy.  Again, Mark Henkel corrected her to move beyond stereotype.  Finally, Mark Henkel Henkel explained the problem, “Putting a family on display, like a creature under glass or behind a zoo cage, is nothing more than a 'Circus Act' to make people go 'Oo and Ah!' – and at the end of the day, never changes political opinion for us.”  The final, remaining part of this interview will be aired in the next coming episode of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Kirsten Fenswick of The Incubator of FOX TV Studios, on August 29, 2007 - Part 2.  The producer was looking for polygamous families to produce a documentary.  Prior to the interview, Mark Henkel had educated the producer that past experiences with FOX had caused families in UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, to distrust it as a "Manufactured News Corporation."  As she made what Mark Henkel would call her "Circus Act Request" ("C.A.R."), the producer said that she was hoping to connect with some small "community of polygamists." She did, though, clarify that she was not looking for people from Colorado City or the specific members of the FLDS" (i.e., Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints) who live there. Even though she seemed possibly positive, the producer's use of the false stereotype term of "community of polygamists" alarmed Mark Henkel's attention, particularly as this was coming from the "un-trusted" FOX TV Studios. The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Kirsten Fenswickof The Incubator of FOX TV Studios, on August 29, 2007 - Part 1.  The producer was looking for polygamous families to produce a documentary.  For over a week prior to actually being able to reach the producer, Mark Henkel had called the producer to no avail.  In her initial media request, she explained that "The Incubator" is where her company prepares ideas (and more) at FOX TV Studiosfor documentaries, etc.  In email correspondence prior to reaching her on the phone, Mark Henkel forewarned her how FOX had previously not been positive, honest, or trustworthy and that she would have to overcome some resulting distrust that families in UCAP (Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy) have toward that media corporation.  In this Part 1, the producer rationalized that she could not speak for what others at FOX have done, yet she hoped to "open a dialog."  Right off the bat, she made it clear that she was making what Mark Henkel had always labeled as a "Circus Act Request" ("C.A.R.").  She directly stated, "What we want to do is a documentary or series with preferably a small community of polygamists."The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Elizabeth Ranzfor UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 16, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage. In this last and final Part 16 segment, Mark Henkel ended his point about letting UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, to be able to motivate "jerk-men" to be better men for the women to choose. Mark Henkel concluded, "You'll hear the argument, 'Then all the jerk-men are going to go without.'  Hey! It's called, American Free Market. Let them grow up and then they'll have a reason to grow up, and then you end up with equilibrium anyway." This episode is the final part of this interview.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 15, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage. In this Part 15 segment, Mark Henkel used his renowned “mathematics example” – that you (as any math student) first learn numbers, then you learn to add, then to multiply and divide, then algebra, then you learn on up to geometry up to trigonometry up to calculus. Mark Henkel compared the same process to learning husband skills, that any man who would be a polygamist would have to learn more, to grow up, and to genuinely care for the women. Mark Henkel concluded, “Those who are demanding ‘one man, one woman’ (OMOW), it’s like those who only know how to multiply and divide are trying to criminalize those who are capable of calculus.” The remaining final part of this interview will be aired in the next coming episode of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 14, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 14 segment, Mark Henkel points out.  The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 13, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 13 segment, Mark Henkel points out the insanity of having society littered with abandoned single moms due to "marriage-phobic males and playa baby-daddies" and yet making it a crime for polygamous men who adamantly want the responsibility of marriage.  Mark Henkel uses his renowned "10 men and 10 women" soundbite to demonstrate two things: (1) OMOW, One Man One Woman, oppresses and deprives women the choice of better men, and (2) allowing women the free choice of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, incentivizes lesser men to grow up and to start becoming better men for the women to choose.  Mark Henkel ends this Part 13 with explaining why he identifies OMOW as "Marital Socialism" or "Marital Marxism," as being the Marxist cry of, "One for each so that each may have one!  The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 12, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 12 segment, Mark Henkel returned to make sure that one crucially important point was understood about UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy.  Marki Henkel explained that any man who wants to be a polygamist can only successfully do so as a caring, nurturing husband.  After making the writer chuckle with the good logic of his argument, Mark Henkel concluded, "Dr. Joyce Brothers said in ’94 [Dec. 22, 1994], ‘I would rather be the third wife of a good man than the only wife of a jerk.’" The writer positively affirmed, “No, that’s just good sense right there.”  The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 11, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 11 segment, the writer re-phrased a re-iteration of her main question, "Why do you think that gay marriage is so much easier for people to accept than polygamy?" Henkel pulled no punches, saying, “The media.”  Mark Henkel detailed how the media has taken control for the previous 30 years.  "You have to use the language that they allow you, or they won't let you get published or they won't let you get heard. ...You have to use [the term] 'traditional marriage' to relate to 'one man, one woman' as opposed to [the term] 'marriage controllers.'  So there is an Orwellian doublethink of language control in the media."  Mark Henkel concluded that the media has "overwhelmingly pushed it and pushed it and pushed that agenda for the last 30 years to the point that there are now a generation of people that have grown up being promoted it and fully accepting it."  Listeners will note that this comment about media pushing ideology and controlling language was stated in 2009, before the following decade of the next "new thing" called "social media" controlling what people are allowed to even see or hear under the misnomer of “censorship for protecting from misinformation.” The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 10, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 10 segment, the Mark Henkel provided insights into how difficult it is for Christians to face the reality that the "one man, one woman" (OMOW) doctrine is simply not in the Bible.  Mark Henkel also explained how the internet (to that point in history, before social media took over) had made it possible for the other Christians to see that they are not alone in seeing this, and that that is how the movement was able to grow with its different forms. He concluded, "You have to define polygamy based on the paradigm, of who's doing it, and how they're doing it, and why they're doing it, and not based on stereotypical misinformation." The writer responded by exclaiming, "Yeah!"  The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz forUCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 9, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diegowas seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 9 segment, the writer asked who Mark Henkel thought was the strongest opposition to UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, and their goal of freedom.  He began his reply by explaining how it takes liberal arguments to persuade liberals and conservative arguments to persuade conservatives - especially Christian conservatives.  Citing a quote from George Orwell's book, "1984,” Mark Henkel empathetically understood the psychological challenge for Christians when they are faced with this startling dilemma of having to realize that all the great Christians they knew in their life were wrong about polygamy and the Catholic-invented OMOW (one man, one woman) doctrine. Using the metaphor from the book by Hans Christian Andersen, Mark Henkel concluded his point, especially about OMOW doctrine, "The Emperor has no clothes. It isnotin the Bible."  The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 8, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 8 segment, Mark Henkel observed that the battle between supporters of “one man, one woman” (OMOW) and same sex marriage (SSM) “is only going to get worse and worse.” Noting that neither side will stop or give up, Mark Henkel stated that that those who call themselves “conservatives” would eventually have to realize that they are being marriage controllers “for big government” and that that would bring them to embrace “The Polygamy Rights Win-Win Solution.”  Mark Henkel also detailed how conservatives embracing the win-win solution would be similar to the historic statement that equally applies: “Only Nixon could go to China.” Mark Henkel noted that the win-win solution would bring “equality for all” to those who call themselves “liberals” too – noting that everyone would win; everyone would have freedom.  Three times in three different ways, Mark Henkel said, “Americans will therefore thank polygamists for ending the marriage debate” with this win-win solution. The writer positively affirmed, “Ye-e-sss, Definitely!”  The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranzfor UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 7, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage. In this Part 7 segment, the writer asked Mark Henkel if his previous replies meant that he also supported polyandry (one woman, many husbands). Mark Henkel first explained that polyandry is not supported Biblically. Using his renowned "seed and garden" soundbite analogy, Mark Henkel then explained how, anthropologically (due to the natures of most men and women, and to what he called "libido match"), most people do not make the choice of polyandry.  Mark Henkel wrapped up his point by concluding what he called is "really the heart of the matter: It doesn't matter whether I support what somebody else chooses or imagines. When government is limited, everybody has freedom."The writer enthusiastically exclaimed, “Well, that makes a lot of sense!”The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 6, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 6 segment, the writer asked, “So you WOULD be in favor of same sex marriage?” Mark Henkel explained that they simply have a right to an imagination and to contract with whomever they choose as consenting adults.  Providing further clarity, Mark Henkel detailed how it does not matter whether one personally or religiously supports or does not support same sex marriage when government has no authority to license, define, or control the contractual arrangements of consenting adults anyway.  The writer enthusiastically exclaimed, “Very interesting!”  The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz forUCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 5, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diegowas seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 5 segment, the writer asked whether the fight for rights for unrelated consenting adult polygamy was either a religious issue or a civil rights issue.  Mark Henkel showed how it is both and matters to both.  After providing many powerful soundbites on the issue, Mark Henkel concluded, “Government has no business controlling religious doctrines OR the contractual arrangements of consenting adults.” The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 4, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage. In this Part 4 segment, Mark Henkel answered the question of the difference between Muslim Polygamy and Christian Polygamy.  In doing so, Mark Henkel detailed the standard of “love-not-force.” The writer exclaimed, “That’s a very good point,”and she later positively laughed with Mark Henkel’s humor. The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 3, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 3 segment, Mark Henkel explained how the new movement of Christian Polygamy arose, based on evangelical Christians deeply studying the Bible (as "sola scriptura") and therteby coming to see how polygamy was absolutely never declared to be a in anywhere in the Scriptures.  He then explained how that new Christian Polygamy movement made it possible for the even larger movement for Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy (UCAP).  Regarding Christian Polygamy, Mark Henkel quickly listed some of the key arguments and examples of polygamist heroes from the Bible, even how Jesus Christ told a parable that described Himself as a Polygamist Bridegroom.  The writer even positively jumped in to note how she had learned that one of the famous Biblical polygamists had had hundreds of wives.  Mark Henkel confirmed that she was referring to King Solomon.  While certainly not exhaustive, this Part 3 of this interview provides a helpful, quick rundown of these exegetical argumentations from the Bible about polygamy.  The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Elizabeth Ranzfor UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 2, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage." The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 2 segment, Mark Henkel explained how the US Supreme Court's 1878 Reynolds v. United States court precedent was actually anti-Mormon rather than anti-polygamy.  He also used repeated hjis famous sound-bite of how "a neutral noun is not modified by a smissing adjective," using the sunny day vs. rainy day analogy.  Mark Henkel explained how the media, in order to generate ad-revenues, are more about manufacturing stories  than reporting actual news. The writer repsonded, "That's a very good point."The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Elizabeth Ranz for UCSD, on May 28, 2009, Part 1, for an essay she was writing, "Polygamy in Contradistinction to Gay Marriage."  The student writer from University of California San Diego was seeking to learn how and why polygamy was not having the same level of political popularity as same sex marriage.  In this Part 1 segment of the positive, educational interview, in order to build a foundation for his set of comprehensive answers to that main question, Mark Henkel opened by detailing the US Supreme Court's decision of Reynolds V. United States in 1878.  He established four background points under which he would make his arguments.  Anti-polygamy laws are unconstitutional in the States under the Tenth Amendment. The Reynolds case was only affirming an 1862 law where the federal government is only allowed authority under the "jurisdictional management" clause for non-State territories (Article 4, Section, 3, Paragraph 2).  Would-be conservatives fall into hypocrisy to rely on that case under which "those 1878 liberal activist judges" concocted a nationwide precedent using a law that was limited only to non-State territories. For this Part 1 segment, Mark Henkel concluded his opening foundation, "The Reynolds case can not survive under a State's challenge to it. If a State was to allow polygamy, the federal anti-polygamy case of Reynolds would absolutely crumble in a heartbeat." The remaining parts of this interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 15 (the final one) of the second post-interview.  It all stems from an article that the writer had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January, 2008. After the article had contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, Mark Henkel requested of the writer to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008, to which she agreed. They both also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which was conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the fifteenth part of that second discussion - the last and final episode of the post-interviews with this writer.  Mark Henkel re-iterated how had been trying to protect the writer’s credibility.   He had done everything he could to help her make an accurate and non-hostile article.  Unfortunately, the writer still chose to “edit” her article in a still-unacceptable - some might even say, passive aggressively hostile - manner.  Since 2008, Mark Henkel patiently gave the writer an obviously-significant amount of time to correct herself in this matter: he waited over 14 years before letting this true story be revealed to the public with this podcast in 2022.  Yet, as Mark Henkel explained at the conclusion of this episode, massive events (which would occur soon afterward in the Spring/Summer of 2008) fully vindicated every action and every reason why everything that Mark Henkel had said and done with this writer were absolutely…“of necessity.”

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdanifor Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 14 (the next-to-last one) of the second post-interview.  It all stems from an article that the writer had written as a student for the Columbia News Service,from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January, 2008. After the article had contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, Mark Henkel requested of the writer to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008; and, she agreed. They both also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the fourteenth part of that second discussion.   This Part 14 segment is a very short episode (on purpose), as Mark Henkel re-iterated the problem of the writer's article misrepresenting polygamy, as preparation for the conclusion of all of the 15 parts of this post-interview. That last and final remaining part of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episode of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 13 of the second post-interview.  It all stems from an article that the writer had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January, 2008. After the article had contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, Mark Henkel requested of the writer to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008.  She agreed. The two also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the thirteenth part of that second discussion.   In this Part 13 segment, Mark Henkel explained that, if the writer was still going to incolude two irrelevant sites, she should add the details that identify those facts about their irrelevance.  The writer was more focused on saying, "Next point?"  The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 12 of the second post-interview.  It all stems from an article that the writer had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January, 2008. After the article had contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, Mark Henkel requested of the writer to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008.  She agreed. The two also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the twelfth part of that second discussion.   In this Part 12 segment, Mark Henkel explained why the writer was undermining her credibility by listing other non-credible polygamy personals sites. He also explained the "Hobson's Choice" that the writer was imposing on him regarding the one and only polygamy personals website with verified real single women advertising in it. The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 11 of the second post-interview - and it is aery short one, relative to other episodes of this podcast.  The reason for the shortness of this episode is two-fold.  First, it shows how insulting the writer presented herself as she rudely went from "Next" to "Next" in her processing of point corrections.  Second, it demonstrates an issue that had become a problem at that time: a force polygamist who was undermining the movement (with his force polygamy views) by labelling himself with a title of "Pastor" in order to pretend that he had more credibility than he possessed, so that manufactured news corporations would falsely quote him as if he was a qualified representative of the Christian Polygamy movement (which he was not).  It all stems from an article that the writer had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January, 2008. After the article had contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, Mark Henkel requested of the writer to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008.  She agreed. The two also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. Although rather brief (on purpose), this episode is the eleventh part of that second discussion. The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdanifor Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 10 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January, 2008. After the article had contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, Mark Henkel requested of the writer to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008 - to which she agreed. The two also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the tenth part of that second discussion. In this Part 10 segment, Mark Henkel clarified a reference that had been attributed to a deputy sheriff.  Mark Henkel noted that that man was only familiar with Mormon Polygamy and that the man knew nothing about any other forms of UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy.  The writer declared, "Next!"  The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service,on March 4, 2008. This is Part 9 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So, the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the nineth part of that second discussion. In this Part 9 segment, the writer sarcastically asserted, “Ok, what are your other points. Let’s go!” After a calm pause, Mark Henkel began; he proceeded by making a correction to a statement from the writer’s article that claimed that "taking multiple wives is essential for them." Mark Henkel explained that, while it might be so for the couple being mentioned at that part of the article, it is not representative of other Christian Polygamists or of Christian Polygamy in general."Essential... is not an accurate statement." The writer claimed that someone from another site had said it too (the same person whom she had previously labelled as “Pastor”).  As they had already discussed the issues about that person as a source, Mark Henkel again noted how that person was "utterly uncredible" and that that man's websites had already been ignored by the movement.  Rather than learn from this mistake, though, the writer instead retorted, "Well, you will have to take that up with" (that man, by name). Mark Henkel declared, "I don't understand why you're protecting your elevation of a person who's uncredible. This is hurting you." the remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdanifor Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 8 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So, the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the eighth part of that second discussion. In this Part 8 segment, the writer repeatedly pretended,"I am listening to you, Mark."  As her actions and choices revealed that her actions were not matching up with the pretended assertion, Mark Henkel exposed that outright gaslighting by continuing to repeat, "I am pleading wiith you to listen, but you're not listening."  She instead gaslighted as if such pleading was somehow an act of "insulting" her. Over-confident, the writer declared permission to Mark Henkel to "post this on the internet." Realizing that the gaslighting was not working on Mark Henkel, the writer eventually asked, "Are we done?"  Mark Henkel repeated that they had not even begun to address the matter. With hostile sarcasm, the writer concluded, "Right. Ok."  The discussion did continue, however. The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service,on March 4, 2008. This is Part 7 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So, the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the seventh part of that second discussion. In this Part 7 segment, the writer continued to pretend she was being kind while she was instead, as Mark Henkel again said to her, "You're stepping on me." Mark Henkel continued to try to give her the education on the topic, yet the writer refused to listen while pretending she was doing so. As the writer claimed, "This is ridiculous," Mark Henkel immediately affirmed, "ItISridiculous." The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdanifor Columbia News Service,on March 4, 2008. This is Part 6 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service,from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So, the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the sixth part of that second discussion. In this Part 6 segment, Mark repeatedly clarified that, not one thing but, a number of different things had happened over the course of 2006 and 2007 which were all contributory to the growth of the movement, of his organization’s membership, and of its website’s hits. The writer kept trying to suggest the growth was exclusively connected to the Warren Jeffs capture in August of 2006. Mark Henkel explained that additional factors from HBO’s “Big Love” in Spring of 2006, the Holm case going to the Supreme Court in January 2007, Season Two of “Big Love” in Spring of 2007, and more were also additional contributory portions to his reference to the movement’s growth as of Summer 2007 - not 2006.  The movement’s growth was not connected to Warren Jeffs, as her article had previously seemed to imply. Mark Henkel concluded, “That’s why I am not being semantical. It really is important.” The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time byZehra Mamdanifor Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 5 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have a second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the fifth part of that second discussion.  In this Part 5 segment, Mark noted how the writer’s article had got specific details incorrect. He differentiated the issue of experts from the “committee called ‘they,’” that the growth of 2Wives.com or his organization’s membership was not connected to the criminal Warren Jeffs, and how 2007 is not 2006.  The writer accepted these corrections, concluding,“Fine.” The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time byZehra Mamdani for Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008. This is Part 4 of the second post-interview. It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year. The article contained many negativities to be corrected. So the writer agreed to Mark Henkel’s request to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008. She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008. This episode is the fourth part of that second discussion.  In this Part 4 segment, Mark Henkel noted how the writer was "stepping on" him for continuously repeating that she was going to remove both mentions of "sister site"and "2Wives.com" from an edited version of the article. Mark Henkel repeatedly told her that it was only the "sister site" reference, not the other reference to "2Wives.com," that needed to be removed. The writer passive aggressively continued to act as if that meant both references. Mark Henkel explained how he was trying to help her keep her credibility and then he expressed why he was getting frustrated - to which the writer took 8 solid seconds of silence before saying, "Are you ready to move forward now?"Mark Henkel replied, "The question is, Are you?"Mark Henkel explained that that specific issue was not resolved, and that solving it was how to move forward. The writer finally acquiesced and said that she would only take out the "sister site" reference alone, even saying it three times. The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdanifor Columbia News Service, on March 4, 2008.  This is Part 3 of the second post-interview.  It follows after an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year.  As the article contained many negativities to be corrected, the writer agreed to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008.  She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008.  This episode is the third part of that second discussion.   In this Part 3 segment, the writer began asking whether Mark Henkel wanted to be taken out of the article.  She asked the same “question” regarding the mention of the 2Wives.com website.  Mark Henkel repeatedly explained that it was only the “sister site”reference but not the actual 2Wives.com site that needed to be removed.  The writer continued to say both terms would be removed while also asking for Mark Henkel to go through the article “point by point” for correction.  As she continued to play this psychological mind-game, the writer claimed that Mark Henkel was “veering off-topic” and supposedly trying to argue with her (when she was the one causing the argument), and she pretended that she was trying to supposedly “get this story right.”  She repeated, “You keep spinning. You keep spinning.”  Mark Henkel was never caught by the passive aggressiveness or mind-game.  To get her attention, Mark Henkel even stopped and slowly counted out loud from one to ten.  He then said very slowly and calmly, “Listen to me, please.  You are talking to the National Polygamy Advocate. I have the knowledge to help you do this right. Listen to me, please.”  Because she was a student, Mark Henkel explained that he was trying to help her to protect her.  He also let her know, “One way or another, these facts are going to be told about this report.” He was simply trying to help her “get the story right.” (These facts are only being made public for the very first time with this podcast in the year 2022 – which is 14 years after these events happened.) In the end of this Part 3 segment, the writer asserted that she was supposedly not stepping on Mark Henkel. Yet, she still did it again, right away.  Mark Henkel concluded,“And that’s how you’re stepping on it.”  The remaining parts of the second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdanion March 4, 2008, following an article she had written as a student for the Columbia News Service, from interviews she had conducted with Mark Henkel earlier in January of that year.  (This is Part 2 of that second post-interview.)  Because the article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, the writer agreed to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008.  She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008.  This episode is the second part of the second discussion.  In this segment, the writer had begun to demonstrate that she was not all that positive toward Mark Henkel after all, responding to Mark Henkel’s professional expertise with statements such as “I don’t know that” – such an assertion which no unbiased journalist would ever make back to any interviewee.  For confirmations, the writer repeated back to Mark Henkel the exact opposite of what he had previously told her.  Mark Henkel said that it was not what he had said and admitted to her, “I’m tired of re-explaining that.”  She responded, “Do you want to be taken out of the article?” She followed up such tactics by saying that she supposedly “did not want to argue” even though she was doing just that.  Mark Henkel asked, “Listen to me…. Please hear me.”  In the end of this segment, Mark Henkel repeated his positive intent, “I'm trying to help you here, and you're arguing with me - which is bizarre to me.” The remaining parts of that second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed a second time by Zehra Mamdani on March 4, 2008, for an article she would write as a student for the Columbia News Service.  (This is Part 1 of that second post-interview.)  After interviewing Mark Henkel in January of that year, the writer subsequently published an article on February 19, 2008, distributed to many other news sources.  Because the article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected, the writer agreed to conduct an initial post-interview on February 26, 2008.  She and Mark Henkel also agreed to have second post-interview later, which they conducted on March 4, 2008.  This episode is the first part of the second discussion. This second post-interview opened with the writer addressing how another writer had chopped up her article which she said was “unjournalistic.” Following with mutual agreement with Mark Henkel on that point, the writer then proceeded to ask Mark Henkel to identify points in her article that were specifically inaccurate.  At one point, she asked a question in such a way that Mark Henkel had to point out that she had “asked the question backwards” - that it was"reverse stated." As he clarified that specificity, she laughed.  Addressing a line she had written in the article about how long the movement of Christian Polygamy had been progressing, she tried to suggest that she was, technically, not inaccurate. As Mark Henkel pointed out, the movement had specifically begun on July 4, 1994 – which was almost 14 years since the time of that second post-interview, not the 12 years as she had mistakenly reported.  He then noted how it was important to specify the marking date of July 4, 1994, because other journalists and writers could mis-use her less-than-accurate statement to repeat it – just like she had complained a writer had done with her article already. The remaining parts of that second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdani for an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 5.  After interviewing Mark Henkel in the previous month, the writer subsequently published an article on February 19, 2008, distributed to many other news sources.  Mark Henkel and the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults were blind-sided: the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected.  This episode is the fifth and final part of the first discussion in which Mark Henkel sought to help the writer make needed corrections.  The writer and Mark Henkel both agreed to have another discussion days later; that second post-interview will be aired in the next coming episodes of this podcast.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdanifor an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 4.  After interviewing Mark Henkel in the previous month, the writer subsequently published an article on February 19, 2008, distributed to many other news sources.  Mark Henkel and the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults awere blind-sided: the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected.  This episode is the fourth part of the discussion in which Mark Henkel sought to help the writer make needed corrections.  In this episode, Mark Henkel addressed the problem of the article elevating two topical non-authorities, all of which poses a threat to the movement of unrelated consenting adult polygamy (UCAP).  One of the ones so elevated had even been quoted using Mark Henkel's own unique style of terminology.  The writer replied that that shows that the gentleman "reads your stuff" and TruthBearer.org. The problem, Mark Henkel explained, is "that he's being elevated when he's irrelevant." Bringing this Part4 of the podcast to a close, Mark Henkel concluded, "I have no problem with him being quiet.  But I have a problem when he is being elevated - because of the threat he poses to our movement, as the anti-polygamists use him as a poster boy to say that 'force polgamy' is (supposedly) what we're about." Mark Henkel has always made it emphatically clear that that is not what the movement has ever been about.
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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdanifor an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 3. After interviewing in the previous month, the writer subsequently published an article on February 19, 2008, distributed to many other news sources. Blind-siding the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults as well as Mark Henkel himself, the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected. This episode is the third part of the discussion in which Mark Henkel sought to help the writer make needed corrections. In this episode, Mark Henkel even provided contrast that he had recently undertaken a positive project for a major television news magazine show, about which he would not yet name drop at that time (until after it aired); it was the show, "John Stossel Special on 20/20," which aired on ABC in July 18, 2008. As for her own article, the writer was self-convinced that she thought that supposedly "neutral" readers would not see what she had written as negative. Mark Henkel explained how too many of the manufactured news corporations"won't cut us any slack." The writer exclaimed with seemingly-sounded surprise, "You don't think this article was cutting you slack? Oh man!" That assertion only revealed how much she did not understand. Mark Henkel explained how "we have to be abso-positively perfect. There is nothing that can said or mis-quoted because then it gets used as a justification for the next thing I've got to defend, it becomes the next issue." Mark Henkel then brought up (from the writer's article) "that horrendous sentence"that suggested that normal healthy UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, supposedly "has a reputation for underage marriage and domestic violence." Concluding this Part 3 of the podcast, Mark Henkel vehemently declared against that untruth, "No such thing. We have no such reputation for that."

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdani for an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 2.  After interviewing in the previous month, Mark Henkel, the writer subsequently published an article, "Polygamists Hit the Web in Search of 'Sister Wives'" on February 19, 2008, that was also picked up by many other news sources. Blind-siding the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adults as well as Mark Henkel himself, the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected. This episode is the second part of the discussion in which Mark Henkel sought to help the writer make needed corrections. The writer stated her opinion that she did not think neutral readers would find things negatively. Mark Henkel noted how anti-polygamists routinely look to twist things that he has said. He explained that it was important to correct for accuracy because (as he concluded this Part 2): "I know the attacks I get."This episode in the podcast provides Part 2 of that lengthy telephone post-interview.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkel was post-interviewed by Zehra Mamdani for an article she wrote as a student for the Columbia News Service, on February 26, 2008 - Part 1.  Earlier, in January, 2008, the writer had a media request for that article she wanted to write. The subsequent interviews seemed to go positively. Her article, "Polygamists Hit the Web in Search of 'Sister Wives'" was posted on February 19, 2008, and it was picked up by many other news sources.  Blind-siding the National Polygamy Rights Movement for Unrelated Consenting Adultsas well as Mark Henkel himself, the writer's article contained many negativities that needed to be corrected.  This episode is the first part of the discussion in which Mark Henkel sought to help the writer make needed corrections.  Mark Henkel explained how the media routinely has lied about UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy, and how that was why polygamists (and he) had to routinely be on the defensive against such untruths and misrepresentations. In this Part 1 of the longer post-interview, it had become clear that the writer's editor had purposely guided the writer to inject negativities in order to supposedly "create balance." Mark Henkel noted how that would compare to how history would condemn a concept of some journalist in the 1960s interviewing Martin Luther King Jr. about good and positive inter-racial marriage and then adding parts to their article about anecdotally some African American criminal men abusing Caucasian women, and then calling it supposedly "adding balance."  This episode in the podcast provides Part 1 of that lengthy telephone post-interview.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Melinda Morrison, for the Oprah Winfrey Show, on March 21, 2008. This is Part 2 of 2 parts. The producer was making a "circus act request." Over the prior years, the Oprah Winfrey Show had aired a number of episodes about "the dark side of polygamy." Each time, Mark Henkel had routinely reached out professionally to the show to clarify that those spots were damaging to UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy.   The producer was insistent that their show was so great, even pretending the extreme exaggeration that they supposedly got "hundreds of thousands of letters" from fans thanking them.  No matter how sincerely Mark Henkel tried to help the producer understand, the producer refused to hear it; she began using passive aggressive tactics to suggest false accusations about Mark Henkel.  Mark Henkel kindly pled to be heard, "We are saying, and you can choose to deny it if you want, but we are saying that your particular show has done damage to us. But we would like to see an opportunity for a bridge to be built there.  My trying to express that to you, that you have done damage to our lives - as a show, maybe not you, personally.  As a show, you have done damage to the very safety of our lives. And we are trying to be able to rectify that. That is what we need to be able to help you understand; and, then we can go forward and families will be more willing to trust you. That's what I'm saying. There is a hurdle that you have self-created as a show, and we would like to be able to get past that."  Rather than be kindhearted and understanding about that, the producer held fast to the perceived gaslighting, next claiming that she did not think that their show "is the right fit for you guys."  Later, she even went so far as to pretend that she had to "keep calming" Mark Henkel down.  At that point, Mark Henkel calmly chuckled at the perceived gaslighting again and then he gently said, "I guess we are, unfortunately, near the end of this conversation."  Less than 2 weeks after this interview, law enforcement raided the convicted criminal Warren Jeffs' FLDS community in Texas on April 3, 2008, taking over 400 children away.  Mark Henkel had always opposed that criminal and expressed how much that normal UCAP families opposed Warren Jeffs and opposed the crimes he committed.  The leading news cycle for months afterward was consistently about falsely stereotyping the false message as if polygamy was supposedly represented by those criminals.  Hence, families in Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy (UCAP) were passionately relieved that nothing had been done or was even going to be done with the Oprah Winfrey Show because of this interview on March 21, 2008.  By this interview and the way in which Mark Henkel successfully addressed the perceived gaslighting, UCAP polygamists had successfully dodged a bullet.

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National Polygamy Advocate ™ Mark Henkelwas interviewed by Melinda Morrison, for the Oprah Winfrey Show, on March 21, 2008. This is Part 1 of 2 parts. The producer was making a "circus act request," wanting open cameras to be used on families in their own homes. Bypassing the media request ticket system, the producer had directly called a confidential number to Mark Henkel. When she was asked about it, her unwillingness to be open about how her company had received the telephone number led to a perception of her gaslighting from the start. The Oprah Winfrey Show had aired previous episodes about "the dark side of polygamy" and Mark Henkel had regularly reached out professionally to the show to clarify that those spots were damaging to UCAP, Unrelated Consenting Adult Polygamy. Mark Henkel tried to help the producer understand, but the producer instead chose to insist that their show had been positive, and then she began what was perceived as even more gaslighting. Rather than hear Mark Henkel out and thereby learn how her show could heal the damage to UCAP polygamists caused by Oprah Winfrey's past shows (in order to then work together), the producer instead chose to falsely accuse him of being an "angry person." Considering how the FBI raid of the FLDS occurred less than 2 weeks later in Texas on April 3, 2008, UCAP polygamists were passionately relieved that nothing had been done or was going to be done with the Oprah Winfrey Show because of this interview.  This Part 1 of 2 ends with Mark Henkel explaining how it is so dangerous for any meida to have portrayed and to then-still portray UCAP families as "the secret world of polygamy." What happened after that will be aired in the next episode of this podcast.

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