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No Bras Required

Meghan Retseck & Patti Johnston

No Bras Required is your permission slip to let it all hang out - literally and figuratively. Hosted by business owners, moms, and besties Patti and Meghan, this podcast is where business, family, and messy real life collide. From dance studio drama and parenting fails to those "I cannot believe that just happened" moments, nothing is off-limits. You'll get practical tips, hilarious stories, and the kind of honest conversation you'd have with your girlfriends over coffee… or tequila. So pour yourself a drink, toss your bra on the floor, and tune in every Friday for a big-sister style chat that reminds you you're not alone in the juggle.

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  • 54 - 53. The Anniversary Episode Part 2.

    We thought we were going to finish our anniversary recap in one episode.

    Spoiler alert: we did not.

    Because apparently Patti and Meghan have 17 talking points, approximately zero ability to stay on topic, and far too much to say about heating pads, leadership, parenting, vacuums and getting older.

    So welcome to Part Two of our anniversary episode.

    This week, we're looking back at some of the conversations that made us laugh, cry, think, panic before hitting publish, and occasionally wonder whether we'd accidentally cancelled our own podcast.

    We also get into one particular Reel that went a LOT further than we ever expected. What started as a little leadership gold nugget about asking your team, "Why are you asking me this?", turned into a much bigger conversation about leadership, assumptions, internet opinions, and the fact that apparently people can decide your entire personality based on 60 seconds of video.

    And honestly? There was a lot to learn from that.

    Then we disappear down the parenting rabbit hole, because obviously we do.

    We talk about what we thought motherhood would be versus what it actually became, the parts of parenting our brains have conveniently deleted, watching our kids leave home, and the strange new world of empty nests, quieter houses and eating Kit Kats for dinner because, well, we're adults and we can do whatever we want.

    We also have a very important conversation about getting older and becoming the people we used to make fun of.

    Comfortable shoes? Suddenly fascinating.

    Sleep? Extremely important.

    Parking? Weirdly important.

    Thermostats? A serious matter.

    Vacuums? Don't even get us started.

    And finally, we confess a few things from the CEO chair, including what we wish we'd known about leadership ten years ago, the mistakes we've both made, and the lesson that sometimes you can believe deeply in someone's potential while still recognizing that they aren't the right person for the role.

    This episode covers: The podcast episodes that made us laugh, cry and think Why the "Permission to Pivot" and "Gift of Ordinary Days" conversations still stick with us The viral leadership clip that got people talking Why asking "Why are you asking me this?" can actually be a leadership question, not a judgment What motherhood looked like in our heads versus what it actually became The strange emotional shift when your kids start leaving home Why May-cember needs to be a thing, and why September deserves its own ridiculous name The things we suddenly care about now that we're older, including soft pants, comfortable shoes and cooling car seats What we wish we'd known about leadership ten years ago Learning to trust your gut, especially when something isn't working Why we've learned to put safeguards around our belief in people The hiring lessons we learned the hard way

    And yes...

    We're doing a Part Three.

    Because apparently we still haven't made it through the list.

    If you've been listening for a while, we'd love to know which episode has been your favourite so far.

    And if you're newer around here, this is your sign to go back and have a little podcast binge. We've got plenty of conversations waiting for you.

    Find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube, and come hang out with us for the next episode.

    Coffee or tequila. You know the drill.

    Fri, 18 Sep 2026 - 1h 08min
  • 53 - 52. The Anniversary Episode Part 1: 52 Episodes. Zero Bras. A LOT of Opinions.

    🎉 ONE YEAR. FIFTY EPISODES. ZERO BRAS REQUIRED.

    Well, friends... somehow we made it.

    One whole year of No Bras Required.

    Fifty episodes of business chats, parenting chaos, marriage complaints, menopause moments, leadership lessons, Costco love, questionable segues and enough unsolicited advice to keep us talking for approximately another 47 years.

    Honestly, when we hit record on episode one, we had absolutely no idea what this little podcast would become.

    We just knew two things:

      Patti and Meghan had a lot to say. Someone, somewhere, might need to hear it.

    And apparently... you did.

    In this first part of our anniversary celebration, we're looking back at where this whole thing started, what we've gotten right, what we've definitely gotten wrong, the conversations we never expected to have publicly and the moments that made us realise, "Oh wow, people are actually listening to us."

    We revisit everything from the origin story of No Bras Required, to parenting teenagers, rescuing our kids too much, annoying husbands who breathe incorrectly, menopause rage, the invisible workload of women and the shocking realisation that comfortable shoes are now a personality trait.

    We also talk about why this podcast has never fit neatly into one category.

    Because neither do we.

    We're business owners. We're mums. We're wives. We're friends. We're educators. We're navigating grief, aging parents, launching kids into adulthood, changing bodies, changing businesses and all the messy bits of real life in between.

    And honestly?

    That's kind of the whole point.

    This podcast was never supposed to be polished perfection. It's supposed to feel like sitting down with two girlfriends in soft pants, coffee or tequila nearby, laughing about life and occasionally saying the thing everyone else is thinking but doesn't want to say out loud.

    So grab your drink of choice and come celebrate with us.

    Because this is only Part One... and trust us, we still have plenty to talk about.

    IN THIS EPISODE, WE TALK ABOUT: 🎉 Celebrating one year and 50 episodes of No Bras Required 👯‍♀️ How the podcast name came to be and why it instantly felt like us 🎙️ What we thought this podcast would become... and why we intentionally didn't put it in a box 💬 The messages from listeners that remind us why these conversations matter 😂 What we've gotten right, including never being able to stay on one topic ⏰ What we've gotten wrong, mainly our complete inability to set a timer 🧠 The invisible workload women carry and why we need more grace for each other 💍 Marriage, annoying husbands, dishwasher arguments and seasons of romance 🛟 Why rescuing everyone isn't actually helping them 👩‍👧 Parenting teenagers and letting our kids learn how to adult 👵 The many things we're officially too old for, including uncomfortable jeans and standing at concerts ❤️ The deeper conversations we never expected to have about grief, death, parenting, mental health, money and identity 🎧 Why No Bras Required will probably never fit into one neat little category... and why we're perfectly okay with that

    And don't worry, friends.

    We're not done reflecting yet.

    Part Two is coming next week, and we're diving even further into the viral moments, parenting, May-December and all the ways we've become the people we used to make fun of.

    So stay tuned.

    And as always...

    Bras are optional. Soft pants are strongly encouraged.

    Fri, 11 Sep 2026 - 1h 08min
  • 52 - 51. The September Reset for Mamas, CEOs, and Empty Nesters

    September has arrived, and apparently everyone is supposed to magically have their life together.

    Backpacks? Packed.

    Lunchboxes? Somewhere.

    Dance schedules? Hopefully.

    Business plan? Definitely.

    Emotional stability? Let's not get carried away.

    In this episode of No Bras Required, Patti and Meghan are talking about the absolute juggle that is September, especially when you're a mum, a business owner, or both.

    They chat about the chaos of back-to-school spending, becoming the family taxi service again, the mental load that changes as your kids get older, and the strange mix of pride and sadness that comes with sending your kids off into the world.

    For Patti and Meghan, this September feels particularly different. Their kids are growing up, some have left home, and they're both discovering what this next season of motherhood actually looks like.

    And then there's the business side.

    September isn't just a fresh start for the kids. For many studio owners, it's the real beginning of the business year. It's time to get the team back into rhythm, execute the plans you made months ago, communicate clearly with families, and resist the temptation to try to do absolutely everything yourself.

    Basically, it's a lot.

    But underneath all the chaos is a really lovely reminder: sometimes the thing we're grieving is also the thing we worked so hard to create.

    In this episode, we chat about: Why September can feel even more chaotic than December. The back-to-school juggle, including the never-ending expense of getting kids ready. The invisible mental load that changes as our children grow. The strange combination of relief, worry and freedom when your kids start driving. Why September is actually the start of the business year for many dance studios. The importance of planning your year ahead instead of constantly reacting. How good communication can make a huge difference to your studio families. Why parents need information in both big-picture and bite-sized formats. The emotional reality of becoming an empty nester. Learning that you can be incredibly proud of your kids while still grieving the version of motherhood that's changing. Rediscovering yourself, your relationship and your freedom when the kids need you differently. And, naturally, the possibility of puppies. The big takeaway

    You don't have to choose between being excited about what's next and feeling sad about what's changing.

    Both can be true.

    Your kids can grow up, leave home and need you less in the everyday sense, while still needing your advice, your recipes, your support and, apparently, your homemade food.

    And maybe this next season gets to be about you, too.

    Fri, 04 Sep 2026 - 49min
  • 51 - 50. Stop Rescuing and Start Helping

    There's a sentence every business owner has said at least 500 times:

    "It would just be easier if I did it myself."

    And honestly? Sometimes it WOULD be easier.

    But if you keep jumping in to fix every problem, answer every question and rescue your team whenever something goes sideways, you're not actually helping them grow. You're teaching them that when things get hard, Mum Boss will come and sort it out.

    In this episode, Patti and Meghan get into the difference between helping and rescuing, why leaders accidentally create dependence in their teams, and why giving people the opportunity to struggle, make mistakes and figure things out is one of the best things you can do for them.

    They also get into the very human side of leadership, including assuming positive intent, having uncomfortable conversations, dealing with employee frustrations, and remembering that it's not personal.

    And yes, there are stories involving mice, bodily fluids, a preschool recital pooper and a very unfortunate accidental text message. Because apparently this is what leadership looks like sometimes.

    In this episode, we chat about: The difference between helping an employee and rescuing them Why answering every problem with a solution can actually hold your team back How asking better questions can help employees learn to think for themselves Why being open to someone else's way of doing things can make you a better leader How rescuing your team turns you into the bottleneck in your own business Why employees and leaders can easily misunderstand each other's roles The importance of assuming positive intent Why communication gaps often get filled with negative assumptions Creating a safe environment where your team can admit when they've messed up How to build independence, confidence and loyalty in your team Knowing when something needs to come up the leadership ladder And the very important question: Would you rather deal with puke or a loose tooth? A little challenge for you

    The next time someone on your team brings you a problem, don't immediately solve it.

    Try answering with a question:

    "What have you tried?"

    "Where are you stuck?"

    "What solutions do you have?"

    "What do you think we should do?"

    You might be surprised by what happens when you give people the space to figure things out.

    And remember...

    Great leaders don't create followers, they create more leaders.

    Fri, 28 Aug 2026 - 52min
  • 50 - 49. Your Ego Is Sitting In the CEO Chair

    There are some leadership conversations that feel a little bit like holding a mirror up to yourself.

    This is one of them.

    This week, Patti and Meghan are getting very honest about the uncomfortable truths of leadership, especially when your ego starts sitting in the CEO chair.

    Because sometimes, the problem isn't your staff.

    Sometimes... it's you.

    If your team needs your approval for every tiny decision, if you're constantly jumping in with "Never mind, I'll just do it," or if you need your idea to win every time, it might be time to take a good, hard look at how you're leading.

    And before you get defensive, remember, Patti and Meghan are saying this with plenty of lived experience and a healthy dose of "we've absolutely made these mistakes too."

    This episode is about learning to lead people based on what they actually need, rather than what makes you feel most comfortable.

    In this episode, we chat about: 🚩 The signs your ego might be running your business, including micromanaging, needing to win and struggling to let other people make decisions. Why you should hire people who are better than you at the things you aren't great at, rather than feeling threatened by them. Different leadership styles, and why great leaders know when to be directive, collaborative or completely hands-off. Why talking less and listening more can completely change your team culture. How to spot the people who naturally step up as leaders, while making sure you don't burn out the same key players by leaning on them for everything. When your business has outgrown an employee's role, and why that doesn't automatically mean someone has failed. The uncomfortable truth about hiring friends, family and former students, and why the rose-coloured glasses have to come off when you're making business decisions. Why behaviour is a language, and why you need to pay attention when someone's actions don't match their words. The difference between "I have to be right" and "I have to get it right." And one simple question you can ask an employee this week: "What's one thing I could do that would help you do your job better?" Your leadership challenge this week

    Ask one person on your team:

    "What's one thing I could do that would help you do your job better?"

    And then comes the really hard part.

    Don't defend yourself. Don't explain. Don't justify. Just listen.

    You might be surprised by what you hear.

    And if you're wondering whether you're actually leading your team or accidentally rescuing, micromanaging or holding them back, send Patti and Meghan a message. They might just give you the Meghan and Patti version, complete with the sassy answer and the HR-appropriate one.

    Fri, 21 Aug 2026 - 1h 08min
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