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Music Maps Podcast

Music Maps Podcast

Rock n Roll Book Club

Each episode we use a place as a jumping off point for a conversation about music - anywhere from the obvious to the obscure.


Join us as we build our music map of the world.


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142 - Wham in China with Simon Napier-Bell
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  • 142 - Wham in China with Simon Napier-Bell

    This week we are joined by legendary music impresario Simon Napier-Beill to tell use about how he got Wham into China in 1985 for a groundbreaking trip.


    Simon’s book about the trip I’m Coming To Take You To Lunch is out now in the UK & across the US.


    Simon & his co-manager Jazz Summers are trying to break Wham in America much quicker than the conventional wisdom. It had previously taken an act 6 years to get to stadium shows but George Michael is insistent they must achieve this within 2 years.


    With that in mind Simon sets about landing the group a gig in China which will create enough publicity & media attention to break the band in the US.


    Making 13 trips to China in the lead up & the story is as much a tale of espionage as the work of a music manager, featuring spies, dignitaries & more.


    Queen nearly got there first but Simon makes sure Wham are favoured by the Chinese government & eventually gets the go ahead after many expensive lunches with government ministers & officials.


    The gig is announced immediately before anyone can change their mind, with only 18 days to organise the trip.


    A deal is agreed whereby a cassette is given away with each ticket, with Chinese language versions of Wham tracks on Side A & the original on Side B. This serves the purpose of flooding the marketplace with there music as cassettes were heavily bootlegged in local markets in China in the 1980s.


    The trip is expected to cost £500,000 & Simon approaches the bands label CBS to foot the bill, they agree providing a documentary/concert film is also filmed, allowing the label to release a document of the trip.


    This increases the cost to the best part of £1m when legendary director Lindsay Anderson is chosen & insists on multiple top of the line film crews.


    George Michael initially changes his mind about the trip but is persuaded to travel as the band travel to Bejing with hundreds of journalists, photographers, camera crews & other media.


    Anderson proves a difficult choice when his behaviour becomes increasingly cantankerous & he dislikes the country & holds Andrew Ridgeley & George Michael in contempt.


    The concert itself goes off without a hitch although the audience is arranged carefully by the Chinese government with the quieter government officials seated at the front & the actual fans of Wham toward the back in the upstairs.


    A second concert takes place in Canton, which with its ties to Hong Kong is much more open to western culture.


    Simon enquires after the fact about the royalties on the several hundred thousand records Wham sold in China throughout & as a result of their visit. He is informed payment cannot be made in cash so he takes 6000 bicycles in lieu.


    Director Lindsay Anderson is fired upon returning to London after George & Andrew label his finished film ‘boring’.


    The trip to China achieves its desired result as Wham are suddenly household names in the US as a result of the wall to wall media coverage & are able to book a stadium tour across the country in the aftermath.


    It takes anything from 5 to 40 hours to prepare each episode of Music Maps - if you’d like to make a contribution to help us cover the costs & time of producing these episodes for you, you can do so at this link: ko-fi.com/musicmaps


    It is hugely important for us to get positive reviews & star ratings - if you have enjoyed Music Maps & can spare the time to do either we would hugely appreciate it.


    You can see our upcoming live events here: https://rocknrollbookclub.co.uk/events


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    Hosted, Produced & Edited by Simon Cardwell

    Music by Andy Maxwell

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    Mon, 02 Nov 2026 - 1h 08min
  • 141 - Paul Simon - Graceland with Ashley Kahn

    This week we hear the story of the classic Graceland by Paul Simon.


    It started with a cassette titled Gumboots: Accordion Jive Hits, Volume II, which is given to Paul Simon in the Summer of 1984.


    He plays it on drive to Montauk, New York where he is renovating a house with his then wife Carrie Fisher.


    Paul Simon is coming off the 1983 album Hearts & Bones & was looking for a new direction in some respects.


    He makes the decision to travel to South Africa in order to make this music as authentically as possible.


    Arriving at Ovation Studios in the summer Johannesburg in the summer of 1985 the process of making the record begins.


    The record is completed back in the US with the African musicians travelling to finish the record.


    The final tracklisting features appearances by Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Linda Ronstadt, the Everly Brothers & more.


    The cover artwork is a late-15th-century Ethiopian painting of St George on horseback found in an exhibition catalogue from the Peabody Essex Museum.


    The record was a slow burn success & its only after winning Best Album at the 1987 Grammy Awards that a new video for You Can Call Me Al is commissioned featuring Chevy Chase.


    The subsequent tour is very expensive to put together but proves hugely popular.


    Graceland has sold approximately 16 million copies to date & its influence has been hailed by Joe Strummer, Peter Gabriel, Ezra Koenig & more.


    It takes anything from 5 to 40 hours to prepare each episode of Music Maps - if you’d like to make a contribution to help us cover the costs & time of producing these episodes for you, you can do so at this link: ko-fi.com/musicmaps


    It is hugely important for us to get positive reviews & star ratings - if you have enjoyed Music Maps & can spare the time to do either we would hugely appreciate it.


    You can see our upcoming live events here: https://rocknrollbookclub.co.uk/events


    Instagram: @rocknrollbookclube17


    X: @simonmusicmaps


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    Hosted, Produced & Edited by Simon Cardwell

    Music by Andy Maxwell

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    Mon, 26 Oct 2026 - 57min
  • 140 - Gary Stewart, Nashville & The Texas Honky Tonks with Jimmy McDonough

    Jimmy McDonough joins us this week to tell us about his new book Gary Stewart: I Am From The Honky Tonks.


    The book is available in the UK & also in the US.


    While not a household name Gary Stewart became a hugely influential singer described as ‘too country for country and too rock for rock’.


    Jimmy developed a relationship with the Stewart family over a long period, enabling this book to come to fruition.


    Jerry Lee lewis was a key influence on Gary in his younger years & the Allman Brothers Band became a significant influence as he grew older.


    Gary Stewart was born in Kentucky before the family relocated to Fort Pierce, Florida.


    His route into the music business came as a songwriter in Nashville, before signing a solo deal with RCA Records, where he achieved a number of country hits including a number 1 with "She's Actin' Single (I'm Drinkin' Doubles)".


    Some of his more rock oriented material did not sit well with RCA & his relationship with the label began to fracture.


    His later years were patchy filled with memorable gigs but also some questionable decisions.


    Gary Stewart passed away in 2003 & his ashes were scattered outside the Texas Honky Tonk he had been due to play that night.


    His influence was proven as names including Waylon Jennings, Dwight Yoakam, Sturgill Simpson & Willie Nelson went onto name check him over the years.


    It takes anything from 5 to 40 hours to prepare each episode of Music Maps - if you’d like to make a contribution to help us cover the costs & time of producing these episodes for you, you can do so at this link: ko-fi.com/musicmaps


    It is hugely important for us to get positive reviews & star ratings - if you have enjoyed Music Maps & can spare the time to do either we would hugely appreciate it.


    You can see our upcoming live events here: https://rocknrollbookclub.co.uk/events


    Instagram: @rocknrollbookclube17


    X: @simonmusicmaps


    Facebook: E17rockbookclub


    Hosted, Produced & Edited by Simon Cardwell

    Music by Andy Maxwell

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    Mon, 19 Oct 2026 - 42min
  • 139 - The Farm with Roy Boulter

    Roy Boulter joins us to talk about his time in The Farm & also his new film Algorithm Party starring PJ Smith, which marks Roy’s directorial debut.


    The idea came from a football game, Roy’s band The Farm had played an informal football game on Fridays in Birkenhead for over 20 years. One day PJ Smith turned up to play & Roy later found out.


    Algorithm Party was filmed in St. Georges Hall in Liverpool, features mucis by fellow Farm member Steve Grimes & is out now.


    Roy also tells us about his time writing for Brookside & Eastenders, his career in film & documentary working with the likes of Terence Davies, building a wicker man for The Coral, making a Beatles documentary with Mark Lewisohn & meeting Yoko Ono.


    He also toured with the Justice Tonight band with Mick Jones playing The Clash songs to raise awareness for the Hillsbrough campaign.


    In 1987 Roy joined The Farm as their new drummer. The band had originally had more of. Punk sound but with the help of producer Terry Farley they change their sound, closer to what becomes known as baggy.


    The Happy Mondays become a key band in The Farm’s story & another key ingredient is the Channel 4 documentary A Short Film About Chillin’ about the bands trip to Ibiza.


    We hear how close Bill Drummond ever was to managing The Farm.


    A cover of the Monkee’s I’m Not Your Steppin’ Stone nearly becomes a hit but its Groovy Train which becomes the breakthrough.


    All Together Now follows & becomes a hit around the world. The track has a long afterlife being featured in football coverage, in Hollywood movies & famously as the 1995 Everton FA Cup final song.


    Suggs, Paul Heaton & other play a part in the production of the Spartacus album which goes to number 1.


    If you have enjoyed Music Maps please subscribe for more. We would also hugely appreciate a review or star rating.


    It takes anything from 5 to 40 hours to prepare each episode of Music Maps - if you’d like to make a contribution to help us cover the costs & time of producing these episodes for you, you can do so at this link: ko-fi.com/musicmaps


    You can see our upcoming live events here: https://rocknrollbookclub.co.uk/live/


    Instagram: @rocknrollbookclube17


    X: @simonmusicmaps


    Facebook: E17rockbookclub


    Hosted, Produced & Edited by Simon Cardwell

    Music by Andy Maxwell

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Mon, 12 Oct 2026 - 55min
  • 138 - The Early Days of The Jam + Rick Buckler Tribute with Steve Brookes & Holly Buckler

    This week we present an episode in 2 parts - in part 1 we welcome Holly Buckler daughter of The Jam drummer Rick Buckler.


    Holly has organised a tribute gig to her Dad who passed away in February 2025. The gig will take place at Woking Theatre on October 12th 2026 & you can buy any remaining tickets here.


    The gig is in aid of the Same Beare Hospice in Woking.


    The lineup includes: A Band Called Malice, Steve Brookes (founding member of The Jam), The Highliners, Pretty Green, Instrumental support from Stuart Prosser (Style Council, trumpet player), Steve Grainger (Played on Culture Club Album, saxophonist), Jody Smith (Worked with Van Morrison, Nigel Price and Bill Shanley, keyboard player)


    Stories and memories from: Dennis Munday - Polydor Record Label, Peter Wilson - The Jam Producer, Bill Smith - Album / Sleeve designer for The Jam, Luke Morgan (The Highliners) - Life after The Jam


    Exhibition pieces from About The Young Idea Exhibition in the foyer on arrival and during the interval. Some pieces have never been displayed publicly before!


    Holly tells us about her plans for the gig & who will be there on the night, how the tribute concert came together, growing up with a former member of The Jam for a Dad & more.


    We are also joined by founder member of The Jam, Steve Brookes.


    Steve met a young Paul Weller at Shearwater School after moving to Woking in the early 70s. The pair became close & Steve spent a lot of time at the Weller family home on Stanley Road.


    They began to play some lunchtime gigs at school & this was soon followed by their first gig at Woking Working Mens Club.


    They were originally joined by Dave Waller & Neil Harris to round out the lineup before Rick Buckler joined as drummer.


    Rick was perhaps more into heavier music at the time, but liked the fact the band had gigs & appeared to be on an upward trajectory.


    Bruce Foxton has similar thoughts when he joined originally on guitar, with Paul Weller still on bass, before swapping roles shortly after.


    A very early Jam track, Takin’ My Love later appeared as a B Side to the debut single In The City a few years later. Although it sounded drastically different in its original guise as the band had not yet taken in harder punk influences later important in defining their sound.


    Paul was still quite shy at this early stage, with Steve taking on more of a frontman role in the very early days of The Jam.


    Notable gigs take place with a residency at Michael’s in Woking.


    Steve Brookes left The Jam in 1975 as he wanted to keep more of a Beatles influenced sound whereas Paul has begun to take in harder influences including Dr. Feelgood & the Sex Pistols.


    If you have enjoyed Music Maps please subscribe, like or leave a review or a comment.


    It takes anything from 5 to 40 hours to prepare each episode of Music Maps - if you’d like to make a contribution to help us cover the costs & time of producing these episodes for you, you can do so at this link: ko-fi.com/musicmaps


    You can see our upcoming live events here: https://rocknrollbookclub.co.uk/live/


    Instagram: @rocknrollbookclube17


    X: @simonmusicmaps


    Facebook: E17rockbookclub


    Hosted, Produced & Edited by Simon Cardwell

    Music by Andy Maxwell

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Mon, 05 Oct 2026 - 47min
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