The Marketing Millennials

What if the most underrated Marketing channel isn't a new platform, but the independent creators your audience already trusts? Dan Robbins, Head of Brand Sponsorships at Substack, has spent his career building ad businesses from scratch. He started in measurement at Nielsen, then launched ads at Roku in the early days of streaming, and later did the same at PayPal and Venmo. He even taught a course on the economics of advertising at Cornell. Now he's bringing brands like Balenciaga, Uber, T-Mobile, and Rare Beauty onto Substack. And, Dan breaks down Substack's three new sponsorship formats. Unlocks let a brand open up a paywalled post. Upgrades give readers a free month of a paid subscription, like Rare Beauty did for World Mental Health Day. The Masthead gives brands a curated destination on the Substack homepage and app without having to launch their own publication. Plus, Dan explains why launching your own brand newsletter is quietly one of the biggest mistakes brands make on the platform. His advice is to join the party where it already is instead of throwing your own. He also explains why creators should keep full creative control, and how Substack is using brand lift studies with Kantar to prove these sponsorships actually move awareness, consideration, and intent. If you're a Marketer who wants to reach audiences where trust is moving from institutions to individuals, this is the episode for you. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Follow Dan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drobbins2/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Kelli Hurley, VP, Head of Content and Podcast Partnership Sales at SiriusXM, sits between brands and podcast creators on every deal. She calls the job a combo of diplomacy and psychological warfare. Before SiriusXM, Kelli helped build the Westwood One Podcast Network, so she’s watched creator Marketing grow from simple host reads into video, social, and live events. She tells us where a brand should put its 1st podcast dollars when it has SOME budget (but not TV budget), why some creator briefs can kill a deal before it starts, and the 1 measurement problem the whole industry STILL hasn’t cracked. Plus, the Marketing hill she’d die on, and why it changes how you should think about brand safety. If you’re a Marketer who wants to make creator partnerships actually pay off, this episode is for YOU. If you got something out of this one, hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that’s built for scale, quality, and measurable results. Learn more about the largest addressable audio ecosystem at siriusxmmedia.com/daniel Follow Kelli: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kellihurley Follow Daniel: YouTube: youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

Check out the new Bathroom Break podcast with Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray on Apple and Spotify. ㅤ Follow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray’s newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights. ㅤ LinkedIn posts that look almost identical are getting 8,000 impressions one day and 80,000 the next. Instagram has dropped its years of resistance to long-form video. And more inboxes now let AI decide what people actually read. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray work out which of these shifts should change how you market, and they settle once and for all whether bottle service makes you a tool. ㅤ Best Moments: (02:58) Jay stopped liking his own posts from company pages, and reach went up (06:09) Why Instagram may be a much easier growth play than YouTube (06:49) How brands can tease a launch and keep viewers on Instagram for the full reveal (07:49) The first 200 characters of live text are email’s new North Star (08:50) Image-heavy emails are invisible to AI summaries (09:32) Why AI agents could make email matter more than ever

B2B social isn’t broken…most brands are just playing it wrong. Daniel sits down with Chris Cunningham, founding member of ClickUp and the brain behind one of the most recognizable B2B social strategies today. Chris breaks down how ClickUp went from a scrappy pivot to a content powerhouse by betting early on creators, comedy, and consistency, even when everyone said B2B social wouldn’t work. From building an internal creator team to launching multiple niche media pages, Chris shares the exact operating system ClickUp uses to generate millions of organic impressions every month. You’ll also learn: Why B2B brands should copy B2C trends before they’re “acceptable” How ClickUp runs its weekly content machine from ideation to publishing Why creator-led pages and employee-generated content are the future of B2B marketing If you’re trying to build a brand people actually talk about (not just ads people scroll past), this episode is for you. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Follow Chris: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisclickup/⁠ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/⁠ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: ⁠https://themarketingmillennials.com/⁠ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: ⁠https://workweek.com/

Why does every brand suddenly look the same? Anthony Reeves, author of Eat the Donkey and former brand and creative leader at Amazon, Kohler, LVMH, and WPP, has a theory, and it starts with "optimization." If using the same AI tools and the same data as your competitors leads to the same results, how do you stand out? Anthony breaks down why friction might be the key. Plus, the one data point that makes or breaks a creative brief, how to tell productive friction from plain old bureaucracy, and the McLaren rebrand that has Daniel fired up. If you’re a Marketer who wants to build a brand that stands out instead of blending in, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Enjoying the show? Hit follow and leave us a rating. It helps more Marketers find the pod. Follow Anthony:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyreeves/Website: https://www.anthonyreeves.co Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Is your multicultural Marketing just a diverse cast and a translated script?Briana Méndez, Associate Director of Audience Insights and Strategy at SiriusXM Media, helps brands get past that.She’s a Puerto Rican kid from the Florida suburbs who got her start at Remezcla, and now she helps brands understand 250 million listeners without flattening them into 1 demographic box. Because if you talk to everyone, you talk to no one.She shares what happened when SiriusXM Media and the agency Alma tested in-culture audio creative (who it worked on might surprise you), and what Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl show proved about going all in on cultural specificity.Plus, why Gen Z men are swapping music for podcasts, and the “Feel Core” trend that could change where your ads should run.If you’re a Marketer who wants to reach multicultural audiences without shoving people in a box, this episode is for YOU.Enjoyed this one? Hit follow and leave us a rating. It helps more people find the show.Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that’s built for scale, quality, and measurable results. Learn more about the largest addressable audio ecosystem at https://www.siriusxmmedia.com/daniel ⁠Culture Trends Report⁠ ⁠Insights⁠ Follow Briana:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianamendez/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Budgets are tight heading into the holidays, so a plain “20% off” feels weaker than it might another year. Jay Schwedelson shares the offer framing that wins when people are watching every dollar, and Daniel Murray makes the case for pitching your product as a must-have 2027 budget line. They also call out the AEO “experts” selling snake oil and explain why your year-old posts still deserve a pinned comment. Plus a Halloween costume brainstorm and a Harry Potter quiz that doesn't go well for Jay.Best Moments: (03:29) Why “costs less than 2 lattes” beats a discount when budgets are tight(04:26) Turning holiday wishlists into a B2B “add this to your budget” pitch(06:23) The commenter you should always pin, and why you shouldn’t set it and forget it(08:28) Why paying someone to “get you into AI” is a red flag(10:37) The incognito test to run before you trust any AI visibility results(12:31) A Masked Singer pitch for Marketingland, with Jay as judge

Amanda Natividad, VP of Marketing at SparkToro and the Marketer who coined "zero-click content," is back for round 2 to talk about taste.Everyone says great Marketing takes taste, or that taste is the moat against AI. Nobody explains where it comes from. Amanda and Daniel dig into how you build it, and how you prove a post is working when there's no click to track (and the platforms are burying your links anyway). Plus, why you should reverse engineer the comment you want before you hit post, and the hidden cost of publishing just to hit a quota. If you're a Marketer who wants to make content people love to share, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Enjoyed this one? Hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show, and it makes my day. Follow Amanda:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandanatSparkToro: https://sparktoro.com Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Blake Erickson, Co-Founder of Scaling.com and co-author of The Science of Scaling, says 10x growth is easier than 2x. Daniel wanted to know why. Blake went from missionary work in Peru, to building a 400-rep door-to-door sales company, to helping founders scale. He breaks down what an "impossible goal "looks like for a Marketing team, and how to tell if you're the one slowing everything down. Plus, where AI moves the needle (and where it's just building cool stuff nobody needs), and his answer to the one A player vs. twenty B players debate. If you're a Marketer who wants to scale your channel without just throwing more budget at it, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Enjoyed this one? Hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show, and it makes my day. Follow Blake: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/blake-erickson-756b54168/ Website: https://scaling.com Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

By kickoff, sports fans already know what they’re buying. If you only show up during the game, you missed your window. Adam Marks, Sports Sales Director at SiriusXM Media, helps brands reach fans in high-attention moments AROUND the game: sports talk, podcasts, streaming, and live events. He’s a 14-year Pandora and SiriusXM vet, a proud (and lonely) Ravens fan, and once launched SiriusXM’s Masters program from his bedroom with a 103 fever.He explains why the best time to reach fans is Monday morning in the car, not Sunday on the couch. He also shares how brands without $50M for a league deal can still own an NFL season, and a story about a no-laptops brainstorm that turned one QSR into one of SiriusXM’s biggest advertisers. If you’re a Marketer who wants in on big sports moments without a Super Bowl-sized budget, this episode is for YOU. If you liked this one, hit follow and leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show.Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that’s built for scale, quality, and measurable results. Learn more about the largest addressable audio ecosystem at https://www.siriusxmmedia.com/danielFollow Adam: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adammarks2/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Pumping out AI-written filler content could be quietly tanking your site. Daniel explains Google’s new spam update, which flags websites full of low-quality AI content, and why a few strong pieces with real stats beat 200 keyword articles. Jay shares Ahrefs data showing that pages not updated in a year are two times less likely to be cited by AI, and that adding schema made no difference across 1,900 pages. He also explains why listicles are the format AI pulls from most. AI search is acting like the 1995 internet right now: lazy, hungry for fresh content, and drawn to simple formats. If you’re a Marketer who wants to show up in AI answers without getting penalized by Google, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Wait a minute - are you still sending ad traffic to your homepage? Val Riley, VP of Marketing at Unbounce, says Google's noticed, and your landing page might be the reason your ads stop showing up. Val got into Marketing because her writing set her apart, and she was an Unbounce customer at her last 3 companies before she ever worked there. She and Daniel get into what Google's ad quality updates mean for your landing pages, and why changing even a single word per channel can pay off more than a full rebuild would. Plus, the hill Val is willing to die on for every Marketing team (and why most companies won't pay for it). If you're a Marketer who wants landing pages that convert, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ This episode originally aired October 29, 2025. If this one saves you from running one more bad homepage ad, hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Val:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerie-riley-marketer/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

If Gen Z is on your media plan and Roblox isn’t, Stephanie Latham, VP of Global Brand Partnerships and Advertising at Roblox, has some news for you: that math isn't mathing. Stephanie helped build what social advertising looks like at Meta. Now she’s doing it again, on a platform where users spend almost 3 hours a day playing, building, and hanging out with friends. She breaks down the 3 smartest ways brands can show up on Roblox, which 1 to test first, and why teams willing to hand creators the keys tend to win (surprise, surprise). Plus, she tackles the safety question every Marketer (and parent) asks 1st, and how Fenty Beauty turned a Roblox experience into a product you can literally buy at Sephora. If you’re a Marketer who wants to reach Gen Z where they’re spending their free time, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Enjoying the pod? Hit follow and leave us a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Stephanie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanielatham/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What does your brand SOUND like? (Yep, it has a sound, whether you picked 1 or not.) Steve Keller is the Sonic Strategy Director at Studio Resonate, SiriusXM Media's audio-first creative consultancy. He's also one of the world's top experts on "sonic strategy": helping brands blend art & science to make audio ads and sonic identities that stick. Today on the pod, he shares what an audio ad has to nail in the first few seconds, and the most underused brand asset in Marketing.Plus, how the music playing in a store can change what shoppers buy, and why Steve wants you eating dinner with earplugs in. If you're a Marketer who wants audio ads and a brand sound people remember, this episode is for YOU. If this one has you rethinking your brand's sound, hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that's built for scale, quality, and measurable results. Learn more about the largest addressable audio ecosystem at https://www.siriusxmmedia.com/daniel Follow Steve: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevekeller1/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

From now through January, four words decide whether people open your email: outlook, trends, prediction and forecast. Jay explains why everyone wants to know what’s coming and why these words belong in every subject line, webinar title and offer right now. He also shares the content format that pairs with them: an AI-built 2027 calendar for your industry, gated to grow your list, which sees over a 75% lift from October through January. Daniel adds year-end roundups of your best content and your own 2027 predictions. Then they get into the AI tools they actually use. Daniel quietly had Lovable reverse engineer a prompt so he could rebuild a website section in Claude. Jay swears by Wispr Flow for dictation and Gamma for building decks in seconds. They also explain why being scared to share your data with AI is the real risk, and how Meta’s Muse caught Jay paying for NBA League Pass twice without being asked. If you’re a Marketer who wants to own Q4 content, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What if your ads are only driving 10% of your sales? Sorin Patilinet, Global Marketing Effectiveness Lead at PepsiCo, says most Marketers are measuring the smallest lever they've got. This engineer-turned-Marketer spent 13 years building the Marketing effectiveness practice at Mars before bringing his measurement obsession to PepsiCo. He also literally wrote the book on it.He and Daniel get into why measurement should never start with your data (what??) and what testing hundreds of ads on real brains will reveal about your creative. Plus, why Sorin doesn't trust surveys and the one metric he'd track over engagement. If you're a Marketer who wants to prove your Marketing actually drives sales, this episode is for YOU. If this one changes how you look at your dashboard, hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ This episode originally aired November 14, 2025. Follow Sorin:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patilinet/Website: https://marketing-effectiveness.com/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What if your next product launch is already going viral on TikTok...before your product even exists? Katelyn Stokes, Marketing Director at Maruchan, uses social listening to find out. She breaks down how a fan hack starring Flamin' Hot Cheetos became a PepsiCo collab, and the very intentional story behind the name Saucy Noods. Plus, why they send a small team everywhere from Coachella to Comic-Con, what fans tell you IRL that they'd never post online, and the one thing Maruchan will NEVER use AI for. If you're a Marketer who wants to turn social chatter into products people actually buy, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ If this 1 hit, follow the show and leave a quick rating. It's the easiest way to help more Marketers find us. Follow Katelyn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katelynstokes/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

Q4 inboxes and feeds are about to get crowded, and last quarter's tactics might not be enough to stand out. Jay and Daniel trade the subject line plays they're betting on right now. Daniel puts a specific number like 7, 5, or 8 (never a round 10) at the front of his subject lines, and he mixes lowercase with a single all-caps word. Jay capitalizes the entire first word, like NEW, and opens with the offer in brackets. He also moves emojis to the middle or end of the subject line, or bookends them in the preheader, because a leading emoji causes problems for screen readers. They also break down LinkedIn's new collaborative posts, which push one post into up to five feeds (including company pages) without counting as sponsored. Then they get into why Instagram's new AI agents in Edits are worth using now but could turn everyone's feed into a wall of sameness later. Daniel's workaround is to test new hooks with trial reels so they reach non-followers first. The bigger lesson is that when a platform launches a new feature, you should lean in early, because that's when it gets the most distribution. If you're a Marketer who wants more opens and more reach heading into Q4, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:https://workweek.com/

Is it really alllll about follower count when it comes to B2B influencer marketing? It’s not. It’s more about who’s following you, than how many.  Vin Matano, Founder of Creatorbuzz, talks about how B2B influencer marketing programs can change brands if used correctly AND strategically. From building a full-funnel strategy to choosing the right creators, it can be the tool your brand needs to scale.  Plus, what does a good creator brief actually look like? What makes LinkedIn content stand out? How do you incorporate events IRL into your strategy? Some things may surprise you.  Whether you’re a Marketer at a B2B company or someone who wants to know more about B2B influencer marketing, this is the episode for you.  Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Follow Vin: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinmatano/⁠ Follow Daniel: YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing⁠ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: ⁠www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials⁠ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: ⁠www.workweek.com

How do you get an entire Super Bowl stadium to sing along to your ad? Peter Giorgi, SVP, Creative Excellence and Brand Experience at Rocket, figured it out...2 weeks before kickoff. After his time at Airbnb and the agency Crispin Porter + Bogusky, Peter helped Rocket stop selling mortgage rates and start selling homeownership, and he and Daniel get into why that idea was just sitting there for the taking in the first place. Plus, a live TV risk that could have fallen completely flat, what happened when Rocket listed an NBA arena on Redfin (and a tornado rolled in), and why a great ad doesn't need a blockbuster budget. And his Marketing hill to die on? Let's just say AI won't love it.If you're a Marketer who wants to build brand campaigns people actually feel, this episode is for YOU. Hit follow and leave a rating if this one has you humming Country Roads. It helps more Marketers find the show.-- Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that's built for scale, quality, and measurable results. Learn more about the largest addressable audio ecosystem at ⁠⁠https://www.siriusxmmedia.com/daniel⁠⁠ --Follow Peter: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petergiorgi/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit www.workweek.com

Marketers are quietly sleeping on one of the biggest data sets out there: prediction markets. Jay explains how Kalshi and Polymarket work like a giant survey on almost any topic, except people are putting real money behind their answers, which makes the results unusually accurate. He also shares the exact prompt to use in ChatGPT, Claude, or Gemini. Tell it your audience, have it search Kalshi and Polymarket for five active, non-political, non-sports markets that signal what that audience will care about in the next 3 to 12 months, then ask for content ideas. He also explains why you should never try to dig through those sites yourself. Daniel explains why now is the perfect time to publish forward-looking 2027 content, and how prediction data lets you pair thought leadership with real numbers you can link out to. The bigger idea is that surveys capture what people say, while money shows what they actually think, so always follow the money. If you're a Marketer who wants to get ahead of what your audience cares about next, this episode is for YOU. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Should your AI agents have job titles? Today, Daniel, Kris Rudeegraap, Co-CEO of Sendoso, and Jessica Vose, Head of Marketing at Kana, debate the best way to build AI Marketing agents: role-based digital colleagues or one Marketing operating layer that connects everything. Kris shares how Sendoso went from hundreds of invisible automations to agents with managers and performance reviews, and why building them was actually the easiest part. Plus, Jessica breaks down where the Marketer stays in the loop, the 2 use cases CMOs, AI leaders, and data leaders all agree on, and why Marketing needs a seat at the table before someone else picks your AI stack.If you're a Marketer who wants to build AI agents that actually work, this episode is for YOU. Enjoyed this one? Follow the show and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find us (and honestly makes my whole week). -- Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that's built for scale, quality, and measurable results. Learn more about the largest addressable audio ecosystem at ⁠⁠https://www.siriusxmmedia.com/daniel⁠⁠ --Follow Kris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rudeegraap/ Follow Jessica: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicapettusvose/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

How do you take a brand born in LA and make New Yorkers feel like it was made just for them? Jena Wolfe, VP of Marketing at Goop Kitchen (https://www.goopkitchen.com), has figured it out. Jena started out writing restaurant listings for a New York magazine, spent almost 15 years running her own creative agencies, and is now Goop Kitchen's first-ever VP of Marketing (and her first time on the brand side). Since joining, she's taken the brand from California to New York and opened its very first dine-in location in Del Mar. Daniel and Jena talk about how Goop Kitchen decides what's sacred to the brand, why the menu didn't change one bit for New York, and why the launch campaign cast local icons like the New York Liberty's Jonquel Jones and PR legend Kelly Cutrone instead of chasing the most famous names in the city. Plus, how to pick your moments with a celebrity founder like Gwyneth Paltrow, what changes when a delivery-first brand finally gets a physical space, and the one lesson about local Marketing Jena wishes she'd learned sooner. And her Marketing hill to die on? Take the big, scary swings...because when they pay off, they REALLY pay off. If you're a Marketer who wants to scale a brand without watering it down, this episode is for YOU. -- Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that's built for scale, quality, and measurable results. Learn more about the largest addressable audio ecosystem at ⁠https://www.siriusxmmedia.com/daniel⁠ -- Follow Jena on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenawolfe/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials

Your landing page is probably leaking visitors, and the fixes are smaller than you think. Jay and Daniel break down how to increase conversions on those pages and offer pages, from the fields you force people to fill out to the button nobody can find. Plus, why every extra must-fill field silently costs you registrants, where to put social proof so it actually does something, and the 1 thing on your page that sends 30% of visitors running for the exit. Plus, a HEATED debate about airplane hygiene and the birth of Jay's new favorite word. If you're a Marketer who wants more conversions without building anything new, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying Bathroom Break? Follow the show, leave us a rating, and we'll see you at the next one. --- Follow Jay: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/⁠ Do This, Not That Podcast: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/podcast Follow Daniel: YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing⁠ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:⁠https://themarketingmillennials.com/⁠ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:⁠https://workweek.com/

If likes don't matter anymore, how do you measure organic social? How do you find great social creators BEFORE they blow up? How do you make a Super Bowl ad about uh, intimate men's grooming, when you can't say "balls" on TV?? Jori Evans, Director of Social at Manscaped, has figured out the answers to a lot of mysteries, and she joined the pod to share her wisdom. Originally aired in January, this episode has everything from how MANSCAPED ran their viral campaigns like "Face Pics vs. D*** Pics," how meme culture drives brand conversions, and what it's like threading the needle between your bold brand voice and STRICT network TV standards...especially if you're hitting the airwaves on the Super Bowl for the first time. If you're a Marketer who wants to build organic social that actually breaks through, this episode is for YOU. Hit follow and leave a rating if this one made you laugh and think. It helps more Marketers find the show. Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that's built for scale, quality, and measurable results. Learn more about the largest addressable audio ecosystem at https://www.siriusxmmedia.com/daniel Follow Jori:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jori-evans/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials

Want a reason to be optimistic about the future of Marketing jobs? Duarte Garrido, Co-Founder of DOJO AI, makes a pretty great case for why great Marketers are about to matter more than ever. He ran Marketing for over a decade at giants like Coca-Cola and Sky, then set out to rebuild the broken Martech stack from scratch. He and Daniel talk about the difference between automation and intelligence, why Duarte can smell AI copy from 10 miles away, and why he says everything AI touches becomes a commodity...except this 1 thing it still can't do. If you're a Marketer who wants to use AI without turning your work into slop, this episode is for YOU. Hit follow and leave a rating if this one got your brain going. It helps more Marketers find the show. -- Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that's built for scale, quality, and measurable results. Learn more about the largest addressable audio ecosystem at https://www.siriusxmmedia.com/daniel -- Follow Duarte: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/duartegarrido/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials

AI summaries pull an average of just 29 words from your email, so every word in that window counts. Jay's formula for the first 150 to 200 characters is action plus product plus deadline, things like "Shop 40% off all Nike running shoes through Sunday at midnight" or "Register for the 2027 HR compliance briefing by Friday," and testing it is driving a 19% increase in click through rates. Bullet points matter even more: bulleted content gets pulled into AI summaries 77% of the time in Gmail, 84% in Apple Mail, and 92% in Microsoft Copilot. Daniel argues Marketing headlines need to evolve too, since vague hooks like "this is crazy" lose their punch once AI strips away the context. He and Jay also unpack a MediaPost survey showing over 70% of people are comfortable with AI scanning their inbox for deals and recommendations, though Daniel notes businesses are far warier about AI reading emails with internal strategy. The bigger idea: email Marketing is being rebuilt around what AI can actually read, and the prettiest template loses if it's not structured to get pulled into a summary. If you want the exact formulas and formatting Marketers are using to win in AI summaries right now, this is the episode for you. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:https://workweek.com/

After years of digital everything, audiences are craving something real again…and Haley Janisch knows exactly how to deliver it. As the Head of Creator Community at Kit, Haley has built experiences like Craft and Commerce and Kit Studios that connect creators beyond the screen. In this episode, Haley joins Tamara to unpack the art and strategy behind unforgettable events. They explore why offline connection matters more than ever, how to design experiences that stick in people’s minds, and the small details that make a huge difference. You’ll also hear the story behind ConvertKit’s Taylor Swift–themed studios, why vulnerability creates stronger communities, and how smart marketers should rethink the ROI of events. If you’ve ever wondered how to build moments people can feel (not just attend) this episode is your blueprint. Follow Haley: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haley-janicek/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

How do you land on a name when you're staring down fifty thousand options, and none of them feel right? Katie Miserany, Chief Communications Officer and Global Head of Marketing at SurveyMonkey, just led the naming and go-to-market for Launchpad, SurveyMonkey's new suite of market research tools built for Marketers with zero research background. Katie joined the company on the communications side, worked her way up to Chief of Staff, and took over the newly combined Marketing and Communications function about a year ago. And, Katie breaks down the six-step framework her team used to name Launchpad, why they started with a brief instead of a brainstorm, and how deciding who the product was NOT for (professional researchers who could build it themselves in SurveyMonkey) sharpened the name, the positioning, and the entire go-to-market. She also walks through how the internal debate between "SurveyMonkey Launch" and "SurveyMonkey Methods" got settled, not by whoever had the loudest opinion in the room, but by 4,500 survey responses. Plus, Katie tells the story of SurveyMonkey's 2021 rebrand attempt, when the company tried to shake its "silly" name to look more enterprise ready, and why the new CEO reversed that decision in 2023 and leaned back into the brand equity everyone already knew. Her take: with buyers asking ChatGPT and Claude about you before they ever search your name, brand and storytelling matter more now, not less. If you're a Marketer who's tired of guessing whether your next name, headline, or campaign will land, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Katie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katie-miserany/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

AI is already reading your emails before your subscribers do, and if you're not writing for it, your message might not make it to the inbox at all. Jay breaks down "live text," the actual HTML text in your email that AI tools like Gmail summaries and Microsoft Copilot scan to build inbox previews and rewrite preheaders. Copilot alone just hit 30 million paid users, up 10 million in a single month, so this isn't a niche problem. Jay's rule: the first 150 characters of your email need to carry your most important, most specific information (webinar details, offer terms, whatever the ask is) because that's the window AI summaries pull from. Images and JPEGs don't count, and alt text doesn't count as live text either, no matter what you've been told. He predicts that within six months, half of all preheaders will be AI generated instead of whatever Marketers actually wrote. Daniel adds that the preheader isn't dead, it's just unreliable now. His fix: write your opening body copy so it echoes what you'd want the preheader to say, so if AI does pull from it, the message still lands the way you intended. He also flags that this isn't just an email problem. The same summarization behavior is starting to show up in text messages, and Marketers need to start thinking about how their SMS gets condensed too. The bigger idea: the prettiest, most designed email templates are losing right now. If AI can't read the words inside your design, it doesn't matter how good it looks. Email Marketing is quietly reverting to a text-first format, closer to how it worked 10 to 15 years ago. If you want your emails to survive the next wave of inbox AI, this is the episode for you. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:https://workweek.com/

Mark Jung, Founder at Known and LinkedIn growth expert, joins the podcast to break down how to win on LinkedIn in 2026, from the new positive-signal-only feed, the LLM-trained algorithm, to the bio changes nobody is talking about. Listen to find out how your bio now matters more than your follower count, and how a brand-new creator with 50 followers can get the reach of someone with 50,000. Plus, get the link, hook, and posting moves Mark and Daniel use, and what cohort seeding is (and why it's choosing who sees your content). If your LinkedIn reach has dropped, your content performance feels inconsistent, or you're just tired of guessing what works, this episode is for you. Follow the show and drop a rating if this one leveled up your LinkedIn. It helps more people find us. [This episode originally aired in January 2026] Follow Mark: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markpjung/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials

A logo on a jersey doesn't cut it anymore. So, how do the best brands decide if a sports sponsorship deal is worth the money? Daniel sits down with a panel that's seen every side of the deal: Sam Kilgore of Sponsor United, Marquise Watts (Who's worked with Under Armor, Adidas, & the Minnesota Timberwolves), Chris Lobono of Athlete Driven Worldwide, and Elliot Christiansen of Cleveland Construction.They get into why "the logo slap" is dying and what's replacing it, how brands move at the speed of culture (see Levi's cutout logo and the Heinz tape at the World Cup), and the real way to measure ROI when only 28% of fans can name a jersey patch. Plus Marquise's rule for every deal he touches: all money ain't good money.If you're a Marketer who wants to make sponsorships actually pay off, this episode is for YOU. Hit follow and leave us a rating if you're into it, it helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing

There's a way to pull the most viral posts in your niche in about 10 seconds. But a lot of Marketers don't know it exists.In this Bathroom Break, Jay and Daniel break down how to mine X (formerly Twitter) for viral content you can actually use. Daniel shares the exact Grok prompt he uses to surface trending posts from the last 48 hours. Jay walks through X's advanced search, and the "min_faves" trick that filters for only the posts hitting your engagement threshold. Then they go deeper: filtering by retweets, comments, date ranges, and media type to see exactly which hooks are landing. Plus: a lost loafer mystery, a linen shirt betrayal, and Jay's full descent into his "embarrassing loser phase."If you're a Marketer who wants a repeatable way to find what content actually works, this episode is for YOU.Enjoying Bathroom Break? Follow the show and drop a review, Daniel reads every one and it makes his whole day.Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Adam McQueen of Klue built an entire in-house media network, the Compete Network, to prove B2B brands (and their content) don't have to be boring.He sits down with guest host Tamara Grominsky on why people follow people, not brands, and how to make B2B content people actually want to watch.Plus the "plumbing" that keeps a lean team shipping, and the "trophy room" trick Adam uses to prove ROI when there's no clean dollar figure.If you're a Marketer who wants to turn content into entertainment that drives real pipeline, this episode is for YOU.Enjoying the pod? Follow The Marketing Millennials and leave us a rating, it helps more Marketers find the show.Enjoying the pod? Follow and drop us a rating, it genuinely helps more Marketers find the show.Follow Adam:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mcqueen/Follow Tamara:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials

Is SEO dead? Ross Simmonds, CEO & Founder of Foundation Marketing, says that's the wrong fight. In today's episode, Ross breaks down AI search, AEO, and how to get your brand cited by ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity. He also asks the real question: what happens AFTER you publish.Also: why Reddit is STILL the most underrated channel in Marketing, how to measure your AI visibility (from share of voice, to referral traffic, and the "how did you hear about us" trick), and the 1 silo problem invisibly killing most marketing teams.If you're a Marketer who wants to get found in AI search without drowning in content slop, this episode is for YOU.Enjoying the pod? Follow and drop us a rating, it genuinely helps more Marketers find the show.Follow Ross:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosssimmonds/Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials

Are there Marketing "best practices" costing you signups? (Yes.) Jay and Daniel call out 2 email tactics that are officially dying: double opt-in + requiring a work email to access your content. Jay breaks down the data on how double opt-in loses you 30 to 40% of your list AND spikes spam complaints. Daniel makes the case for personal emails over business ones (and why gating content behind a work address tanks conversions and retargeting). Plus, a Bob the Builder origin story, 1 demoralizing dorm dresser, and why a kid's toy needs 10 tools you probably don't own.If you're a Marketer who wants to stop following rules that hurt your list, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying Bathroom Break? Follow the show and leave us a review, Daniel reads every single one and it genuinely makes his day.Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

What happens when customers stop visiting your website and start buying straight from an AI chat?Ryan Gavin, CMO at Slack (part of Salesforce), joins Daniel to break down how AI agents are rewriting the Marketing playbook, from lead routing to content QA to the agent first internet.Plus: how 1 engineering agent saved a quarter of a million hours, how Ryan's team grades every piece of content with AI before it ever hits his inbox, and how every Marketer can shift gears from manual "doer" to strategic orchestrator.If you're a Marketer who wants to future proof your team for an AI and agent first world, this episode is for YOU.Hit follow and leave us a rating if you're loving the pod. It helps more Marketers find us.Follow Ryan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gavin-seattle/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

If execution is cheap now, what should Marketers really be getting paid for?Marvin Chow runs Marketing for Search, Gemini, and AI at Google, and he says the hire of the year is a Marketing engineer: a Marketer who thinks like a systems architect (not a project manager. Love you, project managers.).He breaks down the "barbell" reshaping every Marketing team, why taste and judgment are suddenly the premium skills, and how to actually show up in AI search as SEO, AEO, and GEO collapse into one. Plus, his brand bank rule and the AI sparring trick that puts Ogilvy and Olivia Pope on your board of directors.If you're a Marketer who wants to future-proof your role in the age of AI, this episode is for YOU.Hit follow and leave a rating if this one gave you something to steal. It helps more Marketers find the show.Follow Marvin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therealmarvin/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Did you notice? The copy-paste era just ended. Jay and Daniel break down the "AI watch out era": Claude and ChatGPT are now baking watermarks into the text and images they generate, so your AI content can get spotted the second it goes live. Also: why this might actually be good news if you can make original work, why Claude just became a 1st-draft tool instead of a shortcut, and the Canva and screenshot moves Jay swears are still sailing past the detectors. (Plus beignet-related powdered sugar chaos and a cautionary tale about boarding a flight without your travel buddy.)If you're a Marketer who wants to keep using AI without getting dinged for it, this episode is for YOU.Follow Jay:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Andrew LeRay, Director of Brand Marketing at NWSL, is trying to close the gap between people who instantly recognize those four letters and people who still ask what they stand for.He breaks down where building a brand for a sports league is different than building 1 for a product, how the players become the brand, and how a Call Her Daddy cameo and a hydration partnership with Alex Cooper's Unwell became one of the league's biggest growth unlocks.Plus what changes when you go from a 150-year legacy brand like MLB to a self-described challenger brand only 3 years into its current era, and the Marketing hill Andrew will die on.If you're a Marketer who wants to build something people actually recognize, this episode is for YOU.Hit follow and drop us a rating if this one lands. It genuinely helps us book bigger guests.Follow Andrew: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewleray/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What if your whole Marketing plan was really just 1 big math problem?Amanda Cole, CMO at Bloomreach, breaks down pipeline math: how to start with a revenue number and work backwards to the win rate, budget, and headcount that'll get you there.Plus, why she plans off median win rate instead of the average, and why she splits targets when a vertical converts seven points lower than the core.She and Daniel also get into how pipeline math turns a tense sales negotiation into a calm one. (Want 10x coverage? Here's what it costs you in reps you can't hire.)Finally, she makes the case that briefs don't matter anymore, why she handed her CEO direct access to the data and stopped writing reports (including the AI stack behind it all).If you're a Marketer who wants to tie every dollar you spend back to revenue, this episode is for YOU.Hit follow and drop us a rating if this one lands. It genuinely helps us book bigger guests.Follow Amanda:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandajoycole/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

It's July, but the smart money is already building content for 2027. You have about 60 days before the window opens, and the good news is, you probably have most of what you need to get started now. Jay and Daniel break down the exact content to have ready before October hits, why calendars are the format that gets consumed the most in Q4, how to remix content you already have instead of starting from scratch, and why adding 2027 recency signals to your resources page gets you pulled into AI answers before your competitors. If you're a Marketer who wants to prime their pipeline before 2027, this episode is for YOU. Hit play, then follow the show and leave a comment. It helps more than you'd think. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Email isn’t dead. But most Marketers are measuring it the wrong way. Daniel sits down with Naomi West, Senior Product Marketing Manager at Customer.io, to break down what actually makes a “good” email and why beautiful design, open rates, and fancy templates aren’t the metrics you should be obsessing over. From why web design trends fall apart inside the inbox, to why text-based emails often outperform heavily designed ones, Naomi unpacks the myths that are holding email marketers back. They also dive into lifecycle strategy, event-triggered emails, working with engineers, testing frameworks that actually produce statistically significant results, and why communication skills might matter more than any tool you use. If you’re an email marketer who wants to move beyond templates and start driving real engagement and conversions, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Naomi: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomiwest1000/⁠ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/⁠ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: ⁠www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials⁠ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: ⁠www.workweek.com

Every school is on social media. Almost none of them have built anything like what MIT has. Daniel sits down with Jenny Fowler, Director of Social Media Strategy at MIT and author of a book on organic social media, to break down the playbook behind growing the university's following to more than 7 million people across platforms, entirely organic, in a category most brands would consider one of the hardest to win. Jenny walks through her six M framework (mission, message, medium, management, metrics, monitoring) and why "medium," picking the one platform you can actually dominate, is the piece most brands skip first. She also explains why she refuses to chase algorithm changes, staying the course on strategy even when the numbers dip, because reacting to every shift means the algorithm never actually learns your audience. Plus, Jenny breaks down her "dream team" structure for a social department (a director, a manager, and specialist creators instead of platform experts), why social needs to sit at director or VP level to survive internal pressure, and how she stress tests every post for how it could get misread or trolled before it ever goes live. If you're a Marketer who wants a real playbook for building community instead of just a following, this is the episode for you. Follow Jenny:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennylifowler/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

We moved on to Instagram, TikTok, and LinkedIn. Meanwhile, the original mother of all social media platforms is low-key turning into one of the best, cheapest channels to reach your audience.Yep, we're talking about FACEBOOK.Jay and Daniel break down why Facebook is worth another look, and what's working there right now. They get into Facebook groups as the 1 community play that still delivers (and why Meta's new Forums app signals where the platform is headed), how brands like Dad Gang use groups for launches and product testing, and why Facebook gives them the lowest cost per registration and the highest show-up rate for B2B events.If you're a Marketer who wants underpriced attention and a channel your competitors are skipping, this episode is for YOU. Hit play, then follow the show and drop a rating. It helps more than you'd think. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Eric Zenz, VP of Product Management at Salesforce, leads Agentforce Marketing, and he's here to explain what an AI agent should really be doing for Marketers.Plus, why 75% of Marketers have adopted AI but their output hasn't moved an inch, and the 1 thing that separates a useless agent from an outstanding one. And finally, the AI hill Eric will die on (spoiler: it comes down to your data).If you're a Marketer who wants to understand how AI agents actually fit into your team, this episode is for YOU.Do me a favor: follow The Marketing Millennials and leave a rating. Takes ten seconds and helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Eric: LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/ericzenz/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

How do you make plain water feel like a $300 fragrance?Allison Cullman, SVP of Marketing at Hint Water, joins Daniel to break down a campaign that turned hydration into pure desire (and why it worked). She explains why wellness got exhausting for consumers, so Hint stopped selling zero sugar and zero calories and started selling to emotions.Plus the brand's first OnlyFans page, placements from Love Island to Esther Perel, and why building future demand beats chasing the sale in front of you. If you're a Marketer who wants to take a bolder brand swing, this episode is for YOU.Do yourself a favor and hit follow so you never miss an episode, and drop us a rating while you're at it. It genuinely helps.Follow Allison: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allison-cullman-03829731/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Your best content ideas and warmest leads are already sitting in data you forgot you had. Jay and Daniel break down "AI ingestion": feeding transcripts, LinkedIn exports, and CRM data into tools like Claude so your AI actually knows your business and stays up-to-date. Daniel shares his exact prompt for turning one podcast transcript into clips, hooks, and subject lines that get watched past three seconds. Jay reveals the LinkedIn data trick that exports every connection, DM, and comment, then ranks who to reach out to first. Plus why your tools need an API connection or you'll fall behind. If you're a Marketer who wants to squeeze more content and more leads out of data you already own, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying Bathroom Break? Follow the show and drop us a rating, it genuinely helps more Marketers find us. Now go follow The Marketing Millennials. Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/ Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/

What if you managed AI agents like employees? Brandon Metcalf, CEO and Founder of Asymbl, built a hybrid workforce of humans and digital workers doing exactly that.Brandon talks to Daniel about how he treats AI agents like new hires, names and job descriptions included. Plus: the human SDR who got so good at managing an agent he got promoted to AE and closed 11 deals his first month. And how Asymbl hired 100 people in 100 days, out of 17,000 applications...with one single human recruiter.If you're a Marketer who wants to understand how AI agents and humans actually work together, this episode is for YOU.Enjoying the pod? Give us a follow and drop a rating, it helps more Marketers find the show.Follow Brandon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/metcalf/Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Most brands would kill for the loyalty Stretch Zone gets from members who show up two or three times a week…and it all started with a category that didn't exist yet. Daniel sits down with Lindsey McFadden, CMO of Stretch Zone, to break down how she grew the brand from 60 locations to 425, with zero closures, ever. Lindsey walks through why "your first stretch is free" became the backbone of the entire acquisition strategy, and how you educate a market into a habit that didn't exist before you built it. Lindsey shares how Stretch Zone keeps hundreds of franchise owners rowing in the same direction with playbooks so simple she calls them "Fisher Price easy," one page campaign briefs, and a real estate team that heat maps every territory before a franchise agreement is ever signed. Plus, Lindsey explains why AI front desk agents are quietly failing her franchisees (one generated an ad with a leg bent completely backwards), and why her Marketing hill to die on is simple: AI's not gonna run your business for you. If you want to understand how to scale a brand across hundreds of locations without losing what makes it work, this is the episode for you. Follow Lindsey: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lindsey-mcfadden-mba Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

Your subject lines might be too clean, too correct, and too polished to actually get opened. Jay and Daniel go through their favorite subject line tactics, and most of them break every "best practice" rule you've ever heard. Daniel swears by emojis, unfinished sentences that trail off with ellipses, and odd numbers like 7, 9, or 13 instead of round ones. He also calls out his audience directly in the subject line ("For Marketers who...") and says it crushes every time he uses it. Jay counters with what he calls "un-AI" subject lines: intentionally long subject lines (100+ characters) that fill the whole line and get cut off on purpose, ellipses at the start of a subject line instead of the end (a 15% lift in open rates), and skipping capitalization entirely. His logic: if AI would never suggest it, it probably stands out. They also get into serialized numbering (numbering your newsletter editions so people notice when they miss one and go back to read it) and "vault content," repackaging your best existing content as a locked offer people have to unlock. The bigger idea: the goal isn't to write a "correct" subject line, it's to write one that doesn't look like everyone else's. If it looks like AI could've written it, it probably won't get opened. If you want subject line tactics that actually move open rates instead of just following best practices, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

Phil Treagus-Evans, Co-Founder and CEO of Giraffe Social, is not anti-AI (he uses it every day). He’s anti-LAZY AI. You know, the copy-pasted slop currently flooding your feed. So how do you dial up your human-ness…and build trust in the process? Phil and Daniel talk about why people trust people and not brands, how to turn your own team into your highest-performing Marketing channel, and the 1 metric he says matters most even though you can't actually measure it. Plus, how boring Marketing is secretly the riskiest. If you're a Marketer who wants to cut through the AI noise and keep people at the center, this episode is for YOU. --- Follow Phil: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/phil-treagus-evans & check out his book, Human First Marketing --- Enjoying the pod? Do Daniel a favor and hit follow, then leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. 🎧 Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Paul Reiss dropped out of college to build Protein Pints, and then scaled it from 1 store to 15,000 in just three years. His strategy: deliberately pumping the brakes on Marketing so the brand wouldn't blow up before it could actually deliver. Paul and Daniel get into why going viral too early can sink a young brand, how to know when to hold back versus hit the gas, and the 1 question he says every product has to answer before you scale it. If you're a Marketer or founder who wants to know when to market and when to wait, this episode is for YOU! Enjoying the pod? Do Daniel a favor and hit follow, then leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: ⁠www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials⁠ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: ⁠www.workweek.com⁠ --- Follow Paul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-reiss-7060381b7/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing

Most of what you're measuring in email Marketing is noise, and the signals that actually predict pipeline are hiding in places you're probably not even looking. Daniel breaks down why every email needs a honeypot link, an invisible link that only bots click, so you can strip out fake engagement before you ever look at your real numbers. He also makes the case for tracking every CTA separately, since the people who click a button at the bottom of an email are reading more of it and often move faster to pipeline than people who click the first thing at the top. He also talks about using AI to track reply rates and pull specific language out of replies to build first party data, and points out that replies quietly boost your email deliverability too. Jay adds a list of intent signals most teams ignore completely: an emoji reaction during a webinar, any interaction with a chatbot no matter what someone types, and more than 10 seconds spent on a pricing page. He says shoppers who click a bottom CTA show a noticeably higher lifetime value, and that these small, easy to miss actions should put someone on a VIP list because they predict who actually buys faster than a standard open or click ever will. The bigger idea here is a shift from counting activity to counting intent. Opens and clicks only tell you someone showed up. Replies, chatbot use, and CTA position tell you who is actually paying attention and close to buying. If you're a Marketer who is done guessing which leads are real, this is the episode for you. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

Alex Rynne has spent 10 years inside LinkedIn as a Senior Content Marketing Manager. She and Daniel talk about what's working on the platform in 2026, why most B2B brands are boring when they don't have to be, and why the "post just to post" habit is drowning everyone in a sea of sameness. Plus: the content format Alex ranks #1 (it's probably not the one you post most), the 20/80 rule her team swears by, and the LinkedIn move that quietly turned her side videos into top converters. If you're a Marketer who wants to actually grow on LinkedIn instead of shouting into the void, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying the pod? Do Daniel a favor and hit follow, then leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Alex: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrarynne/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Kelly Cheng, CMO at Goldcast, joins Daniel to talk trust, mind share, and how B2B Marketing can break through when the internet is drowning in AI slop. In a feed full of AI avatars and synthetic everything, the stuff that actually earns trust is the stuff AI can't manufacture. What breaks through in a feed full of AI content, and how do you scale it without turning into slop yourself? Kelly and Daniel get into why buyers' shortlists are shrinking even as their options explode, the one thing AI still can't fake (hint: it starts with a T), and the "lazy Marketer" trap that's quietly wrecking teams. If you're a Marketer trying to win mind share and build real trust in the age of AI, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying the pod? Do Daniel a favor and hit follow, then leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Kelly: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyhcheng/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

If you're making budget decisions based on how each channel looks on its own, you're working with an incomplete picture. Daniel breaks down why blended CAC should be the number your whole operation runs against. Blended CAC is your total marketing spend divided by total customers acquired across every channel. It gives you room to invest in longer-term channels without panicking when one silo looks off, and it stops you from killing channels that are quietly lifting conversions everywhere else. Jay admits he runs everything in silos, channel by channel, and uses that to shift budget toward whatever's performing. Daniel pushes back: you need both. The blended number is your north star. The silos are your diagnostic tool. When blended CAC starts creeping up, that's when you go channel by channel to figure out what's wrong. The bigger idea: attribution will always make some channels look better than they are. Blended CAC cuts through that and shows you the real cost of growing your business. If you want a smarter way to manage your Marketing budget, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

When AI can spit out infinite content for free, is yelling into the void actually a losing game? In this LIVE panel, Daniel sits down with two experienced Marketers with strong opinions about what to do. Debbie Millman is a designer, author, and educator who founded the world's first ever Master's program in Branding at SVA. She's also hosted the podcast Design Matters for 21 years and is a Harvard Fellow. Christina Bottis is a CMO with 20+ years in B2B Marketing who has built brand at pretty much every size and stage of company. In this episode, taped live, they get into what "breaking through" actually means, because it’s not volume. It's A+ content, real consistency, and a strategy that makes you behave differently from your competitors (not just a fancier plan). Debbie also talks about brand as "manufactured meaning" and why our reptilian brains are wired to hate every rebrand on sight. Plus the big 1: when everyone can generate everything, what's the new scarce resource? The panel makes the case for taste, ingenuity, and originality, and why the Marketer who keeps building real fundamentals (instead of outsourcing them all to AI) becomes the most valuable person in the room. Also in this episode is a script for how to defend the value of brand - from showing short AND long-term wins, to moving fast without skipping your ICP foundations, and why your audience wants to hear from the real people behind the brand, not the brand itself. If you're a Marketer who wants to learn how to build a brand that cuts through in the AI era, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Debbie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahmillman/ Follow Christina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinabottis/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing⁠ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: ⁠www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials⁠ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: ⁠www.workweek.com

What if your most "customer-obsessed Marketing” is built on stuff your customers don't actually do? Molly Strawn-Carreño is Director of Brand Growth at AYTM, and she's spent years getting researchers and Marketers to finally speak the same language. She sits down with Daniel to break down what real market research looks like now that AI is in every Marketer's toolkit. They dig into the “Say-Do Gap,” aka the canyon between what people tell you (like in a survey) vs what they actually purchase (like, organic strawberries for the kids, very much NOT-organic broccoli for the husband). Molly shares how to word your questions so people give you the truth instead of an aspirational highlight reel. Plus she calls out exactly where AI earns its keep in research (chewing through mountains of historic data, narrowing 50 options down to 3) and where AI face-plants (predicting the next weird trend, because no model saw tinned fish charcuterie boards coming). And she lays out the Marketing hill she'll die on: Marketing and sales have to work together, and good Marketers own the entire customer lifecycle, not just the second a lead converts. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Molly: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/molly-strawn Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Most Marketers are using AI to generate. The ones winning right now are using it to interrogate. Jay breaks down a two-minute tactic he's been running with clients: go to all five major LLMs (ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Copilot, and Grok) and ask each one for the top 50 questions people are asking about your product or service. Then cross-reference the outputs to find what shows up on every platform. Those overlapping questions are your go-to-market. Your blog titles, your podcast topics, your offer angles, your webinar hooks — all of it, handed to you by the market itself. Daniel adds his own layer: before you let AI anywhere near your copy, write it yourself first. Then feed it in and ask AI to critique it through the lens of the greatest copywriters and strategists who ever lived. What would the legends say about your hook? Your offer? Your opening line? That's how you use AI as a refinement partner instead of a crutch — and the difference in output is night and day. The bigger idea: AI isn't the shortcut most Marketers think it is. Used right, it's the smartest pressure test in the room. If you want AI prompts that actually change what you ship, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit:www.workweek.com

Online marketing is changing every day. Are you keeping up with it? Amy Porterfield is an online marketing expert, consultant, and podcast host. Dedicated to helping people scale through email marketing, content creation, and even entrepreneurship, Amy has been in the biz for almost two decades... It’s changed a LOT.  The key to keeping up? Personalization strategies. It may seem simple, but it’s super effective: it drives customer loyalty and creates trust. Creating a personalized experience at any touchpoint makes customers feel like you know exactly what they need.  Also, having a large following doesn’t always equate to large sales. There’s a lot of noise on the internet, and it’s getting even noisier. How can you turn those followers into paying customers?  And, podcasting is the backbone of Amy’s business. When you create a podcast, you have the opportunity to integrate it with your other platforms. It’s a huge asset to building your brand.  If you’re a marketer who wants to scale BIG this year, this is the episode for you.  Follow Amy: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyporterfield/⁠ Follow Daniel: YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing⁠ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: ⁠www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials⁠ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: ⁠www.workweek.com

What does it take to market a restaurant that tells its guests there's nothing to see here? Milo Frank, Senior Director of Marketing at H Wood Group, has spent over a decade building one of the most recognizable hospitality brands in the country, home to Delilah, The Nice Guy, and a whole lot of surprises no one saw coming. And Milo breaks down how H Wood approaches launching in a new market, from scouting 15 to 20 venues in 48 hours to identifying the right local crowd before a single door opens. Plus, why the brand's no photos policy and unannounced performances aren't just vibes, they're a deliberate Marketing strategy built around FOMO, word of mouth, and making people feel like they're in on something nobody else knows about. If you're a Marketer who wants to learn how to build buzz, own a market, and turn hospitality into a growth engine, this is the episode for you. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Milo: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/milofrank/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Everyone's talking about AI slop. But is it really an AI problem, or is it a tool problem? Adam Creeger, CTO at Slate, and Michael Horton, co-founder and CEO, have seen this from every angle, from Meta's video feed to the social media managers creating content on the fly for major brands. And their take is refreshingly honest: most tools right now just aren't built for professionals who actually care about quality. And they break down the 80/20 framework for AI content creation, why AI should handle the tedious 80% so you can spend more time perfecting the last 20% that actually makes content stand out. Plus, why brand guardrails in AI aren't about limiting creativity, they're more like a GPS that lets you take the scenic route and still find your way back. If you're a Marketer who wants to use AI to create better content without sacrificing your brand voice, this is the episode for you. Slate is the one stop content creation platform for social media teams. With AI assisted video and image editing, branding, and collaboration all in one platform. No more switching between 10 different tools. Slate is built for how social teams actually work. Click here for more.  Follow Michael: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhorton1/ Follow Adam: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcreeger/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

If you're making Marketing decisions based on your email open rates and click numbers, you might be working with completely made up data. Jay and Daniel break down the bot problem that's quietly inflating every metric in your ESP, and why those garbage scores are exactly why your BDRs and SDRs hate the leads they're getting. Daniel explains why his newsletter uses a honeypot link at the top just to measure how much bot activity is happening, and why clicks should never be the end goal anyway. They also make the case for zero click content and no agenda Marketing: giving your audience real value without asking for anything in return, so when they are finally ready to buy, you are the first brand they think of. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Don’t listen to everything you hear…in the AI age, SEO is NOT dead. It’s just expanding.  Guest Mike Witham of 97th Floor Agency breaks down what it all means. Some people thought AI would kill SEO, but the truth is that SEO isn’t going anywhere. We just have to learn how to partner with AI to optimize search, especially when it comes to showing up in AI summaries. Marketers have to adapt to new search rules, plus AEO and GEO capabilities.  What’s the difference between using AI and using a search engine to find information? The key is keywords: while people are searching via AI in an experimental way, SEO thrives on keywords. You have to make sure you’re optimizing for that to drive traffic. Should you ask AI for sources? And if you do, will it provide credible ones? Plus, we’re in the age of chatbots and relevancy. What are some good tools to make sure your chatbots are not only giving relevant information, but accurate information, too? If you’re looking to level up your SEO knowledge and anticipate what’s going on with AI, AEO/GEO, this is the episode for YOU.  Follow Mike: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-o-witham/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What if the best AI tools in the world still can't replace a great Marketer? Reza, Co-founder and CEO of Motion, has spent over a decade at the intersection of creative and performance Marketing, and his take on AI is one you don't hear enough: the goal isn't to let AI find your edge. It's to eliminate the tech advantage so the best Marketers win. And, he breaks down how Motion is building AI infrastructure that does all the heavy lifting behind the scenes, from pre-watching thousands of ad creatives to giving every customer their own dedicated virtual machine, so Marketers can stop tinkering with tools and get back to the thing that actually drives results. Plus, Reza explains why the creative strategist role is quietly becoming the most important role in Marketing, and how the best ones aren't just running ads…they're influencing the direction of the entire business. If you're a Marketer who wants to understand where creative strategy is headed in the age of AI, this is the episode for you. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Reza: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reza-khadjavi-46802918/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What’s actually breaking through on social right now? Daniel sits down with Samantha Yehle, who has spent years helping brands navigate the ever changing world of content, social media, and Digital Marketing. As a Brand and Social Media Consultant, she has seen firsthand what separates brands that get ignored from brands that earn attention. She shares why social media has become the new homepage for brands, how Marketers can build better content instincts, and why creativity and taste matter more than ever in a world flooded with AI generated content. She also breaks down the biggest mistakes companies make when building social teams…and how your personal content could be a brand indicator.  Whether you're building a brand, growing a career in Marketing, or trying to figure out what actually works online today, this episode offers a practical look at the skills and strategies that matter most. Slate is the one stop content creation platform for social media teams. With AI assisted video and image editing, branding, and collaboration all in one platform. No more switching between 10 different tools. Slate is built for how social teams actually work. Click here for more.  Follow Samantha: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthabensimonyehle/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Are you leaving conversions on the table by playing it too safe with email? Jay makes the case for sending two emails in a single day - he backs it up with data showing conversion and sign up rates jump over 35% when you pair an urgency send in the morning with a scarcity send in the afternoon or evening.  Daniel adds why text message reminders are a massively underused tool for getting people to actually show up, and why the right people staying on your list matters way more than keeping your unsubscribe rate pretty. They also get into one of the most important mindset shifts in Marketing: your audience is not paying as much attention to you as you think. If you’re a Marketer looking to change up your strategy right away, this is the episode for you.  Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

What happens when a skincare brand founded before social media becomes one of TikTok’s biggest beauty success stories? Ryan Roth grew up around Peter Thomas Roth Clinical Skin Care, but when he joined the family business, he saw a new opportunity. Instead of relying on traditional beauty marketing, he helped build a modern influencer engine that turned viral moments into lasting growth.  From a TikTok video that saved a product from discontinuation to launching one of the brand’s fastest-growing channels through TikTok Shop, Ryan shares how social media transformed a 30-year-old skincare company. He also reveals why his 101-year-old grandmother became one of the brand’s most beloved creators and why the most successful campaigns often come from the people you least expect. Whether you’re new to influencer Marketing or looking to change your strategy, this episode is for YOU.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Ryan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-roth-7b4820146/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

How do you market the biggest sporting event on Earth? For Bettina Garibaldi, Chief Marketing & Communications Officer for the FIFA World Cup 2026 New York/New Jersey Host Committee, the answer goes far beyond advertising. It’s about uniting communities, coordinating thousands of stakeholders, and creating experiences that millions of people will remember for the rest of their lives. After more than two decades leading global campaigns for brands like P&G, Unilever, Pfizer, and Gillette, Bettina stepped into what she calls a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity: helping bring the FIFA World Cup to North America. She shares how marketing sits at the center of everything, from fan engagement and city storytelling to transportation, public safety, tourism, and local business participation. She also reveals why the best marketing often happens behind the scenes, long before fans ever arrive at the stadium. Whether you're a Marketer, sports fan, business leader, this episode is for YOU.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Bettina: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bettina-garibaldi/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What does it actually look like to build a personal brand when you're just someone who works in Marketing and wants to show up online? In this special episode, Daniel sits down with Carmen Vicente, Content and Social Lead at Slate, to discuss what it takes to build visibility in today's marketing landscape. Carmen shares her journey from spending more than a decade in the beer industry to making a leap into tech, why she views personal branding as career insurance rather than self-promotion, and how Marketers can start creating content without feeling like influencers. Plus, Carmen breaks down how she's using AI to streamline content creation, analyze performance, and even stress-test posts before they go live. This episode is about the flywheel of trust: how posting creates credibility, credibility creates reach, and reach creates opportunity for the brand you work for. Slate is the one stop content creation platform for social media teams. With AI assisted video and image editing, branding, and collaboration all in one platform. No more switching between 10 different tools. Slate is built for how social teams actually work. Click here for more.  Follow Carmen: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmen-vicente/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

You already have VIPs in your database. You're just not treating them that way. Jay and Daniel break down the segments most Marketers completely overlook, and why the people already showing high-intent signals are often more valuable than the customers you already closed.  Jay lays out the behaviors that should automatically flag someone as a VIP: repeat website visits, multiple email clicks, product video views. None of that is accidental, and none of it should be treated like a regular contact.  Daniel makes the case for pain point segmentation and why lifetime value of your audience deserves just as much attention as lifetime value of your customers.  If you’re a Marketer looking to work smarter, not harder, this is the episode for you.  Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

What happens when a green owl, a handful of improv rules, and zero fear collide? You get Duolingo, the internet’s most unhinged, hilarious, and effective brand. Zaria Parvez is the creative force behind that chaos. As Duolingo’s first-ever social media hire, she helped grow the brand from 50,000 to over 16 million followers, turning a dusty owl costume in the office into one of the most recognizable (and meme-worthy) characters on the planet. She opens up about how she built a culture of creativity rooted in improv, boldness, and trust. She shares how her team turned social media into the heartbeat of the brand and why “fear is the most expensive mistake” in Marketing. You’ll learn: -The wild origin story behind Death by Duo, the campaign that hit 1.7 billion impressions with no paid ads. -How Zaria uses improv comedy principles to fuel creativity, collaboration, and confidence. -Why giving social teams approval power and autonomy is the key to moving at the speed of culture. Whether you’re a Marketer, creator, or someone who just loves a good brand story, this episode will change the way you think about creativity online. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Zaria: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaria-parvez-645983140/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials

For years, Marketers have known newsletter advertising works…but proving it has been nearly impossible. Daniel sits down with Adam Ryan, CEO of Workweek to discuss Workweek's new Partner Platform and why it could change how B2B marketers measure newsletter performance forever. They break down why traditional metrics like opens and clicks are often misleading, how bot traffic has distorted reporting, and why many Marketers have been under-crediting newsletters for years. Adam explains how Workweek is connecting newsletter engagement directly to CRM systems, helping marketers finally see the impact newsletters have on pipeline, revenue, and account engagement. And, a handful of decision-makers from the right accounts can be far more valuable than thousands of anonymous clicks. How can you make that happen right off the bat? If you’re a Marketer who wants to learn more about ABM, brand marketing, creator-led advertising, attribution challenges, and why the future of B2B marketing is about knowing who engaged, this is the episode for you.   Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Adam: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamtryan/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

The future of Marketing? It starts with being social-first.  In this special episode, Daniel sits down with Eric Stark, Co-founder of Slate and former NFL social media leader, to break down why every modern brand needs a social-first content strategy. Eric shares his journey from managing digital and social content at the NFL and the San Francisco 49ers to building Slate,  a content creation platform designed specifically for social teams. They dive into: - Why social teams are becoming in-house media companies - How organic social should validate paid marketing campaigns - The rise of serialized content and creator-led brand marketing And, the title of Social Media Manager is becoming outdated…they reveal what to use instead.  This episode is packed with actionable insights for marketers, creators, and brand leaders looking to build content strategies that actually perform TODAY. Slate is the one stop content creation platform for social media teams. With AI assisted video and image editing, branding, and collaboration all in one platform. No more switching between 10 different tools. Slate is built for how social teams actually work. Click here for more.  Follow Eric: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericdstark/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Are your webinars actually driving pipeline or are you just checking a box? Jay and Daniel break down the small mistakes that tank webinar performance and the easy fixes that make a real difference.  Jay explains why a specific, curiosity-driven title beats a fluffy, descriptive one every time, and why two reminder emails on the day of your event is not too many. Daniel makes the case for serializing your webinars on a consistent schedule so your audience starts treating them like a show, not a one-off event. And, why do live attendees convert to pipeline at 400% higher rates than on-demand viewers? Jay gives an explanation.  If you’re looking for quick ways to improve your webinars and live virtual events, this is the episode for YOU.  Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Patagonia isn’t just scaling mountains. They’re scaling through affiliate strategy.  This episode’s guest, Cricket Treanor, went from the sales floor to HQ’s Affiliate Marketing and Ecom team. When it comes to partnerships, they’re thinking outside the box: cash back with Rakuten, listicles of the “best jackets”, and speaking out about social issues, to name a few. What should you do as a brand when you don’t lean heavily into loyalty and deals?  And, Cricket debunks some misconceptions about the affiliate space. It’s more than just loyalty, it’s actually about brand awareness. Affiliates aren’t taking sales away from other channels. Where do they fit into the marketing funnel?  Plus, Patagonia is more than just selling products, they’re aiming to bring environmental awareness and sustainability efforts to their audience. How does the buy-back program contribute to Marketing strategy? In a world of overconsumption, how do you get customers excited about new products when overconsumption contradicts the brand mission? If you’re a Marketer who wants to learn more about how partnerships, affiliate strategy, and digital marketing all play a role in scaling, this is the episode for you.   Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Cricket: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cricket-treanor-836515114/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Most insurance brands look the same, sound the same, and spend billions on ads to prove it. Amica decided to do the opposite. Daniel sits down with Tory Pachis (Executive Vice President & CMO of Amica Insurance) to break down how a 119-year-old, referral-only mutual insurer went from 2% unaided brand awareness to 70%…and why a jersey patch on the Boston Celtics was just the beginning. Tory shares how Amica built a sports marketing strategy around values alignment, not logo slaps, and why the Jason Tatum "Back to Zero" campaign became one of the most authentic brand stories in insurance. They get into why humor isn't the only tool in the insurance advertising toolbox, how to make the case for brand investment to a skeptical CFO, and what happens when your star athlete tears his Achilles the night after you sign the deal. They also dig into how Amica is thinking about AI and LLMs, and why a loyal customer base full of organic Reddit and Trustpilot reviews might be their biggest unfair advantage as search evolves. If you want to understand how challenger brands build modern relevance without abandoning their heritage, this episode is for you. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at wrike.com/tmm Follow Tory:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tory-pachis-7106064/ Follow Daniel:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured  Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Should you keep your Marketing running on holidays, or hit pause and wait for a better day? Jay and Daniel make the case for keeping the engine going, and back it up with actual tactics.  Jay breaks down how to mine holiday auto-reply emails for retargeting gold and why long form content tends to perform especially well when people finally have time to read. Daniel explains why consistency beats timing every time, and why skipping one holiday post is how the skipping habit starts. They also get into what is happening with the LinkedIn algorithm right now, why posts are taking 24 to 48 hours to pick up steam, and why that actually works in your favor when everyone else goes quiet on a holiday. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Have a dog? If you’re a Millennial or Gen Z, there’s a good chance you’re already owning your first pet. But do you have pet insurance? According to statistics, you probably don’t.  This episode’s guest, Trey Ferro, is in the business of making sure you and your pet are insured. From unexpected vet visits to making sure your pup is fully vaccinated, pet insurance can help you have peace of mind. But how do you market such a “complicated” product? The answer is personalization.  And, just how important is a good CTA? Trey reveals the double digit number difference between a good CTA and a bad one.  If you’re a Marketer who wants to learn more about Marketing tougher and more unique products, this is the episode for you.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Trey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trey-ferro-320240141/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Does everyone on your revenue team actually agree on who your ideal customer is? Daniel sits down with Hailey McDonald, the new VP of Revenue Marketing at Sprout Social, on day one of her new role. They get into one of the most expensive mistakes in B2B Marketing: building campaigns before your ICP is truly locked in across every team. Hailey breaks down why most companies are doing ABM in name only, how to tell within five minutes that a team's ICP is broken, and why getting Marketing, sales, CS, and rev ops aligned on a single definition is the foundation everything else is built on. She also explains the difference between ICP and total addressable market, and how pipeline hitting while revenue misses is one of the clearest signals something is off with your targeting. Daniel makes the case that personalization at scale is really just personality at scale, and why the brands that stay consistent with their messaging even under pressure are the ones that win long term. Plus, Hailey's marketing hill she would die on: you can't have demand without brand. If you’re looking to actually understand and identify who your audience is, this episode is for you.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Hailey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haymcdee/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Is your June Marketing strategy ready for one of the wildest months in recent memory? Jay and Daniel break down three major forces hitting the calendar at the same time. Jay explains why the second half of June through the second week of July is one of the worst performing stretches of the year for webinar attendance, B2B content downloads, and high-ticket consumer products, and why you need to plan around it now. Daniel makes the case for leaning into the FIFA World Cup with soccer-themed email copy and subject lines, whether you're a local brand or a global one. And Jay breaks down why Prime Day lifts all Marketing, not just Amazon sellers, including why people spend about 15% more time in their inboxes during that window. If you’re looking for a plan for June, this is the episode for you.  Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

AI tools are everywhere right now, but most marketing teams still have no clear strategy for how to actually use them effectively. Daniel sits down with Christine Royston, CMO of Wrike, to talk about what it really looks like to build an AI-powered marketing organization. Christine shares how Wrike built an internal AI-powered content hub that dramatically sped up SEO, email, and content production workflows while helping teams scale output without sacrificing quality. They also dive into how to measure real AI ROI in Marketing, why broken workflows should never be automated, and the framework for deciding when to build vs. buy AI tools.  If you’re trying to understand how marketing teams should actually be implementing AI beyond the hype, this episode is for YOU.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Christine: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christineroyston/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

How does a 125-year-old brand still manage to feel fresh?  Daniel talks with Dawn Hedgepeth, a Marketing Strategist who has previously worked with consumer brands like Unilever and Hanes. She shares her unfiltered take on modern Marketing, brand love, and the art of staying relevant. From once dreaming of becoming a lawyer to now leading marketing for one of the most iconic brands in the world, Dawn reflects on two decades of lessons in curiosity, creativity, and change. She dives into how Hanes continues to evolve - from influencer collabs and TikTok Shop to uncovering real consumer insights that drive product improvement.  Plus, how do you keep a 125-year-old brand meaningful? Dawn reveals how using empathy and curiosity are the basis of every good Marketing campaign. If you’ve ever wondered how to build brands with good bases and a great mission, this episode is for you. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Dawn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawn-hedgepeth/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Is your LinkedIn content getting buried in the feed?  Jay and Daniel are breaking down the sneaky, low-key tactics that are actually moving the needle on LinkedIn right now. Jay shares the embarrassingly simple trick he's been using for months: saving his own posts and sending them to a handful of people right after publishing. Daniel breaks down why the 800x999 image ratio is the secret weapon for dominating the LinkedIn feed and why your scroll time (and engagement) skyrockets when you use it. They also get into why LinkedIn automation tools are a hard no, why the platform will blacklist you without warning, and why Instagram is a completely different story when it comes to tools like ManyChat. If you’re posting on LinkedIn and need a boost, this episode is for you.  If you want quick wins in social and paid right now, this episode is all about spotting the signals and moving before everyone else does. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Influencer marketing isn’t just for DTC anymore, and Sarah Adam is here to prove it.  As the force behind Wix’s growing B2B influencer strategy, Sarah shares how she built a program from scratch to scale, working with hundreds of creators across LinkedIn, Instagram, TikTok, and more. And, there’s something that most B2B marketers get wrong about influencer campaigns, why a good brief should actually be brief, and how to think about cost-per-view in an opaque market where creators set the rules.  Plus, we find out how Wix measures success, selects creators, balances creative freedom with brand guardrails, and manages long-term partnerships…all without over-engineering or over-scripting. Whether you’re an influencer marketer looking for some new strategies or working on your first creator campaign, this is the episode for you. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/1sarahadam/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

The playbook for building a sports team just changed…and most brands aren’t thinking big enough. Daniel sits down with Kimberly Veale (SVP of Marketing & Communications, Portland Fire; ex-Golden State Warriors & Valkyries) to break down what it actually takes to build a fanbase before a single game is played. Kimberly shares a behind-the-scenes look at how modern Sports Marketing works, from selling out season tickets pre-launch to turning a team into a full-fledged lifestyle brand. She explains why women’s sports fans behave differently, how merch becomes a leading indicator of demand, and why culture, community, and storytelling matter more than ever. They dive into what most brands get wrong when entering women’s sports: relying on outdated playbooks instead of building authentic connections. Kimberly also breaks down real examples about how the best teams create moments that fans actually care about. If you want to understand the future of Sports Marketing, community-driven brands, and why “social followers” might be the most overrated metric in marketing, this episode is for you. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at wrike.com/tmm Follow Kimberly: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberlyveale/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

The platforms just told you exactly what they care about…are you paying attention? In this episode of Bathroom Break, Jay and Daniel break down two major updates from LinkedIn and Instagram that Marketers should be jumping on immediately. Jay explains why LinkedIn’s new off-platform event ads are a game changer for driving webinar registrations and lowering costs, especially if you adopt early before competition increases. Daniel dives into Instagram’s latest shift toward shareability and skip rate, and why the first two seconds of your content now matter more than ever. They walk through how to audit your content for skip rate, improve hooks, and optimize for shares so your posts get more distribution. They also explain a key insight most marketers miss: when platforms roll out new features, they reward early adopters, giving you a temporary advantage if you act fast. If you want quick wins in social and paid right now, this episode is all about spotting the signals and moving before everyone else does. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

What happens when a Microsoft Marketer takes TikTok-style humor to LinkedIn?  Viral growth, 35K+ followers, and a whole new playbook for B2B content. Daniel sits down with Heike Young, former content leader at Microsoft, Salesforce veteran, and one of LinkedIn’s most recognizable creators. Heike has built an engaged audience by proving that professional content doesn’t have to be boring. Heike opens up about her journey: from editing For Dummies books and running social at Salesforce, to reinventing herself as a LinkedIn video creator who blends humor, relatability, and practical insights. You’ll hear: - Why low-fidelity, authentic content often outperforms polished, high-budget productions. - How to bring humor and personality into B2B without losing credibility.  The step-by-step playbook for individuals who want to build their personal brand on LinkedIn. If you’re planning on scaling your B2B brand through social content, this is the episode for you.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at⁠ wrike.com/tmm Follow Heike: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heikeyoung/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

The bar for good content just got higher…and most brands aren’t ready. Daniel sits down with Jack Appleby (Founder of Future Social, ex-Beats by Dre, Verizon, Microsoft, Twitch) to break down what’s actually changing in social media AND what still separates great brands from everyone else. With 15+ years in social, Jack shares a candid look at how the industry has evolved - from the early days of “figuring it out” to today’s AI-powered content explosion - and why most brands are getting strategy completely wrong. They dive into the biggest misconception in social right now: confusing content with strategy. While everyone is chasing trends and pumping out posts, the brands that win are the ones building real emotional connections, original ideas, and repeatable creative systems. Jack also shares real campaign breakdowns (including ones from Dunkin and Adobe) to show how the best brands turn simple ideas into viral, high-impact content. If you want to build a brand that actually stands out on social in 2026, this episode gives you the blueprint. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at wrike.com/tmm Follow Jack: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackappleby/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

If you’re only using one AI tool, you’re already behind. Jay and Daniel break down how Marketers should actually be using AI right now and why relying on just ChatGPT isn’t enough anymore. They dive into new capabilities across platforms, including ChatGPT’s updated image generation, and why Claude’s “skills” feature can save hours by acting like a reusable prompt system for your brand voice, paid media, and more. They also explain how different tools dominate in different areas, from Gemini’s deep integration with Google Ads and Workspace to Claude’s superior writing and connectors. What’s the real advantage of using AI tools? The real advantage comes from using tools together, not picking sides. If you want to stay competitive in marketing, this episode is a guide to building your AI stack and actually using it day to day. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

Most people think LinkedIn growth comes from posting more. They’re wrong. Daniel joins Marketing, Demystified with Jenn Mancusi to break down the real playbook for growing on LinkedIn in 2026 and why most founders and brands are missing the biggest opportunity sitting right in front of them. From why comments might be more powerful than posts, to how the algorithm actually decides what gets seen, this conversation goes deep into the tactics that drive real reach, engagement, and business results, not just vanity metrics. Daniel also shares how to use LinkedIn as a true growth channel by focusing on audience-first content, repeatable ideas, and shareability, plus why most people fail because they treat LinkedIn like a “post and ghost” platform instead of actually being social. If you’re trying to grow a personal brand, drive B2B demand, or turn LinkedIn into a real acquisition channel, this episode is for YOU.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at wrike.com/tmm Follow Jenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-mancusi/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Why do so many marketing strategies fall flat? What separates the brands that scale from those that stall? In this episode, Daniel sits down with Erik Huberman, founder and CEO of Hawke Media, a Marketing agency that’s worked with over 6,000 brands and built one of the largest Marketing analytics engines in the space. Erik breaks down the biggest mistakes companies make, from misjudging ROAS to underestimating the power of brand trust and consistent nurturing. Plus, why isn’t a great product enough? Erik tells us why AND gives a crash course in how to share your value in just 5-7 words.  Whether you’re new to Marketing or a seasoned vet, this is the episode for you.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at http://wrike.com/tmm Follow Erik: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikhuberman/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Most marketers track clicks…but almost nobody is using them correctly. Jay and Daniel break down how to turn click data into one of the most powerful tools in your marketing stack. From building high-intent audiences to improving segmentation, they explain why clicks should be treated as a signal, not just a metric. They cover how to create retargeting audiences from click activity, why tagging clicks by topic unlocks smarter campaigns, and how to filter out low-quality or misleading clicks so you’re not optimizing based on bad data.  Jay also shares a simple (and slightly controversial) way to estimate bot click inflation and why your reported metrics might not be as accurate as you think. If you want to get more value out of the traffic you already have, this episode shows you how to make your clicks actually count. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

While everyone fights over Meta and Google…smart brands are going offline. In this episode, Daniel sits down with Olivia Oshry, CMO of the Out of Home Advertising Association of America (OAAA), to break down why billboards, out-of-home, and real-world media are booming again and why most brands are still underutilizing them. Olivia shares her journey from digital-first companies like AOL to betting big on out-of-home, and explains why the pendulum is swinging away from pure performance marketing toward a more balanced, brand-first strategy. They dive into why out-of-home works so well in today’s AI-driven, hyper-digital world and why she calls it “the human medium.” They also unpack why attention matters more than impressions, how Gen Z discovers brands differently, and why great creative (not just spend)is what separates campaigns that get ignored from ones that go viral. If you’re wondering how to break through rising CAC and creative fatigue, this episode will change how you think about media mix and where your brand should show up next. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at wrike.com/tmm Follow Olivia: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-oshry-82189356/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What does it take to run Marketing for multiple global brands at once without losing creativity or performance? Daniel sits down with Natalie Wills, SVP of Marketing & Creative at Expedia Group, to break down how she leads Marketing across Hotels.com, Expedia, and Vrbo…all at the same time. Natalie shares her unconventional path into Marketing (from economics to global brand leadership), and then dives into the real strategy behind Expedia’s latest campaigns, including how mascots like “Bellboy” drive memorability in a crowded market and why bringing back nostalgic brand assets can outperform starting from scratch. And, why do most companies still get brand vs. performance Marketing completely wrong? Natalie and Daniel discuss.  If you’re scaling a brand, managing multiple products, or trying to balance creativity with performance, this is the episode for you. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at wrike.com/tmm Follow Natalie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliealisonwills/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Are you posting on Instagram and just hoping for the best? Jay and Daniel break down some of the most underused Instagram tactics that Marketers should be paying attention to right now. Daniel explains why Instagram's Trial Reels feature is a game-changer for creators and brands who want to test content before it hits their main feed, and how the platform's built-in analytics can tell you exactly where your audience is dropping off. They also get into what Adam Mosseri actually said about sharing posts to your story (and whether Jay buys it), why posting as a Reel instead of a static image gives you a better shot at reaching non-followers, and the engagement story trick Daniel uses to warm up his audience before posting. If you’re flying blind on Instagram and want a plan, this episode is for you. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/

What does it really take to launch a product that actually sells, not just looks good on a marketing plan? For this special episode, Daniel brings on a very special guest: Ari Murray (Chief Digital Officer of Salt & Stone, founder of Go-To-Millions, and his wife) to break down the real playbook behind high-performing product launches. Ari walks through how she approaches launches from the inside: why timing is often the biggest lever, how to structure drops to create urgency (and why fake urgency kills trust), and what most brands get wrong when introducing new SKUs.  And, Ari also shares how to think about media mix at different budget levels, why momentum is everything in marketing, and when to aggressively scale vs. pull back. If you're launching a product, planning a big campaign, or trying to turn Marketing into a growth engine, this episode is for you. Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at wrike.com/tmm Follow Ari: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arimurray/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Marketing is easy to understand as a Marketer, duh. But to other departments (like Finance, Ops, Sales, etc.), it can be hard to get them to understand WHY your company needs Marketing.  Enter: Steve Stano, a Marketing leader in the financial services space. Sure, not everyone is a Marketer, but he’s here to break down how you can get everyone on board, in the loop, and up to date about what Marketing can do.  What does data have to do with it? Turns out, data should be the reason you do anything. You need the numbers to back it up. And as Marketers, it’s our job to paint the picture so others understand why we do things.  Plus, what’s smarter ABM? We talk about how account-based marketing tactics are evolving based on buying signals and behavior. Whether you’re a Marketer at a large company or at a startup, this is the episode for you.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at wrike.com/tmm⁠ Follow Steve: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestano/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com