Pivot Podcast

Colin Kaepernick joins Ryan, Channing and Fred for one of his most personal and revealing conversations yet. A decade after he took a knee and changed the conversation around athletes, race, protest and power, Colin is telling the story behind the story in his new memoir, The Perilous Fight. From growing up as a Black child adopted into a white family, to the experiences and misconceptions that shaped him long before he ever stepped onto an NFL field… from becoming a star quarterback with the San Francisco 49ers and reaching the Super Bowl, to the decision to protest during the national anthem and everything that followed. Colin opens up about what people have gotten wrong about his journey, what actually led him to kneel, the fallout with the NFL, the years of questions surrounding his career, and the moments behind the headlines that he says have never fully been told. He also gets candid about his relationship with Jay-Z, their conversations surrounding the NFL and Roc Nation, and why that relationship became complicated. And then there’s the part of Colin’s story that exists beyond football and activism: fatherhood, family, identity, purpose and the man he has become today. A conversation about childhood, race, football, sacrifice, power, relationships, fatherhood, misconceptions, and what it means to stand on what you believe—even when the world decides to define you for itself. Full video playing now on Netflix. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"When one door closes, another opens and if it doesn't, kick it down until it does." Ryan Clark Football season is back, we kicked off week 1 launching our own kick off with our new Sports Studio show as Ryan, Channing and Fred share their journey of resilience, redirection and shaking up the industry. It's a lesson in rebuilding and turning let down into opportunity and the guys share how they pulled off mission impossible efforts to kick off the football season in a new pivotal way. The guys reflect with raw emotion, thoughtfulness and share the highs and lows of the process rooted in brotherhood to get to where we are now. Leading right into College football season kick off and RC's LSU Tigers coming out strong, Lane Kiffen's leadership, Arch Manning the future, top ranked colleges and the support of HBCU teams. Giving their insights and locker room takes while having fun talking off the field like RC's Hyrox adventure, Chan's sports-parenting and Freddy T's reflection on life as we get into a new season of life. Also, the guys applaud Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese quieting the unnecessary noise as WNBA season is underway. Full video episode out now on Netflix. And Check out our new Sports Show on Mondays at 2pm est on The Pivot YouTube Channel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"I’m a peace with my career. I had nothing else to prove. "Clay Matthews Clay Matthews is back — and he’s giving us the story behind the story, joining Ryan, Channing and Fred to talk all the changes big and small in life. From USC to the NFL, Super Bowl champion, defensive force and one of the most recognizable linebackers of his generation, Clay Matthews sits down for a conversation about the journey that made him — on and off the field. After hanging low for years after retiring, Clay opens up about his rise from USC to Green Bay, winning a Super Bowl, building a defensive legacy and what it really took to compete at the highest level of football. The Super Bowl play to upset the Pittsburgh Steelers is a defining moment in his career but also a painful one for Ryan to revisit as it was his team on the losing end. But this conversation goes beyond the stats, sacks and championships. He gets honest about why he stepped away from the game for so long, what life after football has looked like, and finding purpose outside of the sport that defined so much of his life. And perhaps most importantly, Clay talks about being a dad and coaching his kids in flag football — bringing the same standards of accountability, discipline and respect that were demanded of him throughout his own career. What does it mean to hold your kids to a high standard while still letting them find their own path? We also get into Clay’s next chapter, including his work with Netflix, his evolving role in entertainment and the hilarious viral headlines surrounding his “new look” that had everyone doing a double take this week. Partnering with Caesar's Sportsbook, Clay gave everyone a run for his money when he appeared in public for the first time in years with an enhanced maxxed out look that had the world buzzing if it was really him...shortly after he announced his partnership with Caesar's and how the Sportsbook and app have had some "work done" just as he did to launch this next chapter. This is Clay Matthews beyond the helmet — the competitor, the father, the storyteller, and the man who has figured out the right balance between football and family. Full video episode now streaming on Netflix. The Pivot Podcast a partner of Caesar's Sportsbook. Please play responsibly. Must be 21+ and physically present in AZ, CO, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MA,MI, MS, MO, NV, NJ, NY, NC, OH, ON, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY, Washington, DC or Puerto Rico. Know When To Stop Before You Start®. Gambling Problem? CO, IL, KY, MD, MI, MS, MO, NJ, TN, WV, WY, KS (Affiliated with Kansas Crossing Casino), ME (Licensed through the Mi’kmaq Nation, Penobscot Nation, and Houlton Band of Maliseet Indians, federally recognized tribes located in the State of Maine), NC (Licensed through Tribal Casino Gaming Enterprise), PA (Affiliated with Harrah's Philadelphia): If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) or MD: Visit mdgamblinghelp.org (http://mdgamblinghelp.org/) or WV: Visit 1800gambler.net (http://1800gambler.net/); AZ: Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP; IN: Call 1-800-9-WITH-IT; IA: Call 1-800-BETSOFF; OH, VA, LA (Licensed through Horseshoe Bossier City),Washington, DC (OLG Class A licensed operator): Call 1-800-MY-RESET; NV:Call 1-800-522-4700; ON: Visit connexontario.ca (http://connexontario.ca/) or call 1-866-531-2600 or text CONNEX to 247247; Puerto Rico: Call 1-800-981-0023; llame a la línea PAS de ASSMCA 1-800-981-0023. ©2026, Caesars Entertainment. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or Call 1-800-MY-RESETMA: Call 1-800-327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (http://gamblinghelplinema.org/) NY: Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

'Be so good they cant ignore it." Fred Warner The San Francisco 49ers star joins The Pivot to talk about the journey, adversity, and mindset behind becoming the leader of one of the league’s toughest defenses. Going from having Super Bowl MVP locked up to losing the game, Warner opens up about chasing the Lombardi, the lessons that came from falling short, battling back from injury, and what it takes mentally and physically to return to the field at the highest level. He gets real about his family, the people who keep him grounded, and the responsibility that comes with being a leader in the 49ers locker room. He also breaks down the transition to a new defensive coordinator in Raheem Morris, what changes on the field, and how he plans to set the tone for the next chapter of San Francisco football. This is Fred Warner beyond the helmet — his journey, his setbacks, his family, his leadership, and his relentless pursuit of a championship. Check out the full episode streaming now on Netflix. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Charlie Baker on the Future of College Sports What happens when college sports becomes one of the biggest business, political and cultural battlegrounds in America? On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Charlie Baker, NCAA President and former Massachusetts governor, joins the conversation for a wide-ranging discussion about the rapidly changing world of college athletics. Baker breaks down the chaos surrounding the NCAA, the evolving NIL landscape, the future of college football, and what the next era of the student-athlete experience could look like. He also opens up about LSU and the controversy surrounding NFL players going back to college and how it affects the identity of college sports and how much financial implications are coming from NIL and transfer portal. The conversation goes beyond football, with Baker discussing the explosive growth of women’s sports, the opportunities and challenges facing women athletes, and how college athletics can continue building momentum across the country. And because college sports and politics are increasingly intertwined, Baker weighs in on the role of politics in college athletics, the pressures facing universities and the NCAA, and where the line should be drawn between government, institutions and sports. From NIL and conference realignment to football, women’s sports, LSU, politics and the future of the NCAA, this is a candid conversation about an industry undergoing one of the biggest transformations in its history. The rules are changing. The money is changing. The power is shifting. And Charlie Baker is at the center of it all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“The hardest fight is life, another man doesn’t scare me.” Conor Benn In a powerful and eye-opening conversation, the guys sit with Conor Benn for one of his most honest and vulnerable conversations yet. The son of British boxing legend Nigel Benn, Conor grew up carrying a family name that came with enormous expectations. But behind the undefeated record, the spotlight, and the pressure to live up to his father’s legacy was a young man fighting battles that had nothing to do with boxing. In an emotional and vulnerable moment, Conor opens up about his journey through suspension, the scrutiny and isolation that followed, and reaching a point where the weight of everything became so overwhelming that he contemplated taking his own life. He shares what brought him back from that place, how he began to find himself beyond boxing, and the people and experiences that ultimately helped save his life. He shares how there is no such thing as fear and that his perspective on fighting has changed realizing getting in the ring is nothing compared to what he’s endured.  Now, with his upcoming fight against Ryan Garcia, Conor talks about what this next chapter means to him — not just as a fighter, but as a man. He discusses redemption, purpose, mental strength, what he has learned from the darkest moments of his life, and where he sees his career and life going from here. This is more than a boxing conversation. It’s a story about falling apart, finding yourself, saving your life, and discovering what you’re truly fighting for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“The league is about getting better, if you don’t, you are out.” -Malik Willis As NFL training camp officially wraps, now it’s time to see how some of the new faces in new places approach the 2026 season. We had the privilege of sitting with one of the break out stars over the past couple years who is getting his chance to be back leading a team.  Miami’s quarterback, Malik Willis, joins The Pivot for a wide-ranging conversation about the journey that has shaped him both on and off the football field — from growing up with the foundation of good parents, finding his way through college football, and eventually making his way from Tennessee to Green Bay and now Miami. Willis opens up about the highs, setbacks, lessons, and growth that have come with chasing his dream of becoming an NFL quarterback. He reflects on his college path, the experiences that helped shape his game and his mindset, and the people who kept him grounded along the way. Now entering a new chapter as the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins, Willis talks about the expectations that come with getting his opportunity to lead an NFL franchise. He discusses adjusting to a new team, a new city, and a new head coach, while embracing the responsibility and pressure that comes with being the guy under center. His bond with Coach Jeff Hafley has helped him grow into the leader the team needs especially with a young roster, specifically at wide receiver. But beyond football, the conversation gives a glimpse into the person behind the helmet. Known for his relaxed demeanor and calm presence, Willis talks about staying true to himself while navigating the noise, expectations, and scrutiny that come with playing quarterback at the highest level. From Tennessee to Green Bay to Miami, Malik Willis’ story is one of perseverance, patience, family, growth, and believing in yourself when the path doesn’t always go according to plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“The entire team is bought in to Ben Johnson’s winning ways.” Coltson Loveland  As we are getting close to wrapping our training camp tour, we caught up with Chicago Bears’ first-round pick who sits with Ryan and Channing for an honest, fun and wide-ranging conversation about his rise from a small-town young buck in Idaho to becoming one of the biggest names in college football at Michigan — and now, one of the NFL’s most intriguing playmakers. Colston takes us behind the scenes of the journey, the sacrifices and the moments that shaped him along the way. From Idaho hometown hero to winning a National Championship at Michigan with Jim Harbaugh to being selected as a first round draft pick to Chicago Bears. His name is rising quickly to the top of the NFL, he talks about feeding off the energy from Ben Johnson, the dawg mentality of his quarterback Caleb Williams and being apart of a roster determined to win at all costs.  He recounts last season’s comebacks, his career high performance, the heated rivalry between Green Bay, Bears’ playoff run and the expectations the team has instilled on themselves to chase a Lombardi trophy this season.  Colston gives his perspective on Johnson’s offensive mind, his coaching style and why players are excited about what he’s building in Chicago. He talks about Caleb’s unique ability to make plays that seemingly shouldn’t be possible, what it’s like developing chemistry with him and why the Bears’ offense has so much potential. Chicago and the NFL world has already embraced Colston — and apparently, so have the ladies As he acknowledges the attention that comes with being a young NFL star, his growing fan base and what it’s like adjusting to life in the spotlight while still continuing to prove himself on the field. To Colston, It's bigger than the draft status, the attention or the hype...It’s about his goals in the NFL, what he wants to accomplish in Chicago and the mindset required to bring championships to the city. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Be at your best when your best is needed." Jonathan Taylor As the Pivot Training Camp tour hits Indianapolis, one of the league's best Running Backs Jonathan Taylor sits with the guys for an in-depth conversation about his football journey—from his early days at Salem High School in New Jersey to his dominant college career at Wisconsin to becoming one of the NFL’s premier running backs with the Indianapolis Colts...JT's transcendent path is one everyone can learn from. Taylor opens up on making it to the league, the work behind becoming one of the most productive backs in football, and what it means to earn a new deal and continue building his legacy in Indianapolis. JT talks about the legends at his position before him, what it was like having Philip Rivers around and gives an inside-look into this year's roster filled with young proven talent. He also discusses his relationship with Colts head coach Shane Steichen, the Irsay family, and the people inside the organization who have helped shape his career. He gives his respect to the other top Backs in the league from Bijan to Derrick Henry to Saquon, even revealing what him and Saquon had in common long before their NFL days...Beyond the numbers, Taylor talks about leadership, accountability, handling adversity, and setting the standard for a team that wants to win. He also breaks down what it will take for the Colts to make the playoffs—what needs to come together inside the locker room, the consistency required throughout the season, and the mindset it takes to make a real postseason run. What does it take to be one of the best? How does he approach the responsibility that comes with being a leader? And what does winning mean to him at this stage of his career? A candid conversation with one of the NFL’s elite about the journey that got him here—and the mindset, leadership and commitment it will take to get the Colts where they want to go. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Going against Ceedee and GP is prepping me for what I need to be at my best." Caleb Downs  On the road, hitting all the Training Camps and had to make it to Oxnard to check out the rookie sensation- Caleb Downs who joins us for a conversation during his first NFL training camp with the Dallas Cowboys, stepping into the league as a first-round pick with expectations already sky-high. Caleb opens up about making the transition from college football to the NFL, the pressure that comes with being a highly touted first-rounder, and what it means to now wear the Cowboys star. He talks about going against elite teammates like CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens every day at practice, learning what separates NFL players, and the intensity of competing against the best in the world. He opens up on his immediate bond with Defensive Coordinator Christian Parker and what he sees in his new coach that can take the defense to the next level. The conversation also goes back to his championship-winning college career, his time playing for Nick Saban, and the lessons he took from one of football's greatest coaches. Caleb reflects on playing alongside stars like Jeremiah Smith, the competitive mindset that helped him win at the college level, and how those experiences prepared him for Sundays in the NFL. He shares how the upsets and losses are just as important as the wins in maintaining a championship mindset. Caleb tells the guys that since he was young, he's studied some of the greatest athletes from Kobe Bryant to Tom Brady to Michael Jordan not because of their skill set but because of their habits and uses his findings in his everyday life. Caleb also gets personal about family, the pride of following those who came before him, and what it means to have a brother already playing in the NFL while continuing a football legacy of his own. From winning in college to earning his place in Dallas, Caleb Downs gives The Pivot an inside look at the mindset, expectations and family foundation behind one of football's rising young stars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As our NFL Training Camp tour continues, we stop in H Town to sit with a big part of the league's top tier defense with one of the leaders, Linebacker, Azeez Al-Shaair, who sits with us for an honest conversation about the journey that shaped him—his upbringing, family, faith, and the adversity he had to overcome to reach the NFL and stay in the league. Azeez opens up about his path to football, the obstacles he faced along the way, being one of eight children raised by a single mother, and the mindset that helped him turn challenges into motivation. He gets candid about his NFL career, his identity and religion, the intensity of playing defense, and the moments that tested him both on and off the field. The conversation also dives into the controversial hit on Trevor Lawrence, the aftermath and lessons that came from it...he doesn't hold back on the realization of how he quickly became judged by the world for that one moment and how it affected him mentally and on the field. With head coach DeMeco Ryans being one of his early supporters from their time in San Francisco, he shares how Coach was one of the people who helped him through his darkest time and bring him full circle picking him as one of the leaders on the Texans defense, demonstrating what it takes to play with emotion while maintaining discipline and perspective. This is a conversation about more than football—it’s about faith, resilience, identity, adversity, and the relentless pursuit of becoming the person you’re meant to be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sitting with one of the most interesting and energized leaders in football, Liam Coen chops it up with the fellas during training camp for an honest conversation about his rise through the coaching ranks, the people who shaped him, and the lessons he’s carrying into his second year in Jacksonville. Taking a 4-13 team to 13-4 in his first year as head coach is quite the feat but it also comes with high expectations in year two. Coen opens up on his approach, how he plans to capitalize on veteran talent and utilize young playmakers in every game-plan.  Coen takes us through the viral moments of his first year, on and off the field, and gives us an inside look into his journey from college football to the NFL, the success he found in Tampa Bay working with Baker Mayfield, and the impact of learning under Sean McVay. He opens up about his coaching philosophy, the evolution of his career, the one regret that haunts him still and how those experiences have prepared him for his opportunity to lead the Jaguars. He also gets personal, talking about his close relationship with his dad, the role family has played throughout his journey, and the sacrifices behind becoming an NFL head coach. With Trevor Lawrence and a young Jaguars team entering a pivotal season, Coen discusses his expectations, the identity he wants to build, what he sees in his team, and what it will take to take the team to the next level. A conversation about the journey, family, mentorship, leadership, and the pressure and opportunity that comes with building something from the ground up.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I cannot sit on the sideline.”Travis Hunter  Couldn’t come to Duuval and not talk to our guy Travis Hunter!! We were able to catch him for a few minutes on his off day while he was at the facility with his family and we had to ask him all the things everyone wants to know and put truth to the headlines and rumors that constantly surround this young star.  Heading into his second year with the Jacksonville Jaguars, Travis keeps it real with us about life on and off the field. Coming off an injury, He opens up about his determination to continue playing both sides of the ball, the physical and mental demands that come with it, and the expectations surrounding one of football’s most unique young playmakers. Ryan and Channing push back on all the snaps he takes and being a Hall of Famer at one position is tough let alone trying to compete at two! But Travis makes it clear and lets the guys know what drives him to be out there for both! Travis’ bond with Trevor Lawrence is what keeps him grounded and confident on the field as well as the respect and brotherhood he has with his teammates on both sides of the ball, although they have labeled him with a “cheat code” nickname… He reflects on becoming a dad, balancing family and football, and navigating the pressure to live up to the hype while continuing to grow into the player and person he wants to be. The growth and perspective this young man has at such a young age is truly remarkable.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"It's a new beginning for us." Minkah Fitzpatrick and Adonai Mitchell As the Pivot Training Camp tour continues, we hit the Big Apple, where we sit down with Minkah Fitzpatrick and Adonai Mitchell to preview the season ahead with the NY Jets, and reflect on the hard roads that brought them to this moment. Two players. Two very different journeys. One shared mindset: keep going, keep growing, and embrace the opportunity in front of you. From adversity and setbacks to finding their way to New York, Minkah and Adonai open up about the moments that tested them, shaped them, and ultimately helped define who they are today. Now, with training camp underway, the focus shifts to what comes next: earning it, building something together, and making an impact when it matters most. For Minkah, Nine years. Three stops. One journey that brings him back home. His transparency is on full display as he talks growing up in New Jersey to going to Miami as a first round pick to becoming a cornerstone of Steelers defense in 2019 and building a nine-year career defined by adversity, evolution, and excellence, Minkah has seen it all. Now, he returns to familiar territory to begin a new chapter with the Jets — and perhaps the most meaningful one yet. His respect for Coach Aaron Glenn and leading the young roster which is Minkah's focus. Adonai Mitchell brings the Jets a big, athletic X receiver with downfield speed and the ability to win one-on-one matchups. His time in Indianapolis ended after a costly focus mistake, fumbling at the goal line on what would have been a 75-yard touchdown against the Rams...but he responded well after the trade, showing flashes of the talent that made him a second-round pick. In New York, Mitchell gives the offense another explosive weapon opposite Garrett Wilson, and confidence in Geno Smith to be able to turn those flashes into consistent production. This isn't just a training camp stop talking preseason...It’s a conversation about resilience, purpose, pressure, and the power of a pivot. The journey brought them to this point, and now, it’s time to see where it takes them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I work twice as hard to never become complacent.”Drake London As our Pivot Training Camp tour continues, we hit the A to sit with Drake London as a new NFL season begins and camp ramps up with bigger expectations than ever. The Atlanta Falcons star wide receiver opens up about entering a pivotal year, adjusting to a new coaching staff, and embracing the pressure that comes with a major contract and becoming one of the league's top playmakers. Beyond football, Drake shares the personal milestones shaping this chapter of his life, including his recent engagement, the values instilled by his family, and how his upbringing continues to influence the way he leads on and off the field. He also reflects honestly on mistakes he's made along the way, the lessons they've taught him, and why accountability has become one of his greatest strengths. In a candid conversation with Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor, Drake discusses what he still has to prove, the expectations surrounding the Falcons, and the mindset driving him toward the best season of his career. It's a conversation about growth, maturity, pressure, and purpose from one of the NFL's brightest young stars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"I'm not letting anyone stand in the way of me feeding my family." Jeffery Simmons One of our favorite times of year as we kick off The Pivot's NFL Training camp tour and we started our journey in Music City, with a team singing praises for their new coach, new logo and a new mindset...Ryan, Channing, and Fred sit down with one of the league's most dominant defensive forces, Jeffrey Simmons. The All Pro Defensive Tackle has achieved ultimate individual success in his eight year career but is still chasing that team goal, to win together. From overcoming unimaginable adversity to becoming a first-round draft pick and one of the NFL's premier defensive tackles, Simmons reflects on the journey that shaped him on and off the field. He also opens up about moving beyond the rumors and stigma that followed one mistake in high school, sharing how he rebuilt his reputation through accountability, perseverance, and years of proving himself both as a man and as a player. The conversation dives into the challenge of consistently performing at an elite level while playing on teams that have struggled to win, and what continues to fuel his drive every time he steps on the field. Simmons also discusses the excitement surrounding elite quarterback Cam Ward, why he believes Ward's talent and leadership can help change the trajectory of the franchise, and what it's been like embracing a new era under the Titans' new coaching regime, including the impact of veteran defensive mind Robert Saleh. He also talks about how he's been impressed with Rookie wideout Carnell Tate and what his speed and talents bring to the offensive unit. He doesn't shy away from the emotional side of football either, sharing what it was like watching former Titans head coach Mike Vrabel reach the Super Bowl after spending so many years together in Tennessee, and why that moment of watching his friend play in that game was bittersweet and brought on a sense of what could have been. It's an honest conversation about resilience, redemption, loyalty, leadership, and the relentless pursuit of greatness—on a team still searching for its breakthrough. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After ringing the Nasdaq bell, Jake Paul is putting the world on notice once again that he is shaking up the sports and business world with his latest knock out move. Jake and Most Valuable Promotions co-founder Nakisa Bidarian join The Pivot Podcast fresh off the blockbuster announcement of their merger with the PFL alongside CEO John Martin. In a wide-ranging conversation, Jake opens up about the mindset that's fueled his rise—from the "delusional confidence" that helped him bet on himself to building one of the biggest brands in sports and entertainment. He and Nakisa break down their vision for changing combat sports, protecting fighters, creating new opportunities, and why they believe they can compete with the UFC. Jake also reflects on his boxing journey, the critics who have motivated him every step of the way, and why proving doubters wrong continues to drive him. He even shares why he believes he could have played slot receiver in the NFL, while opening up about his long-term goals of building generational wealth, starting a family, and creating a legacy that extends far beyond the ring. It's an honest conversation about ambition, disruption, business, and what it takes to keep betting on yourself when the world says you can't. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Showing our brother's love by highlighting their commitment to young people on and off the field using their own life experiences to make an impact. In a special partnership with the NFL and the MEAC Football Conference- Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder and Fred Taylor sit with star head coaches DeSean Jackson, Michael Vick, Chennis Berry, Trei Oliver, Ted White, Damon Wilson and more to preview the upcoming 2026 college football season. Everything from Xs and Os, to expectations on how these coach's are mentoring and preparing young athletes for next level. This was filmed and recorded by ESPN for distribution on multiple platforms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Without great critics, you’ve had no great successes.” Ryan Clark  Today's episode hits close to home, and is personal for us but also powerful. We always ask our guests what is their biggest Pivot, and now we are asking Ryan to share his after the past few days of things transpiring with the way they have. On Monday July 20, 2026, Ryan was let go from ESPN while on air, mid show of NFL Live...from that moment on it's been a rollercoaster of emotions, and events as the news began to travel around the sports world but Ryan has remained quiet as he's processed the news and appreciated the outpour of support. Fred and Channing sit with Ryan for a deeply personal conversation, the guys discuss what happened, if there were signs, how it TRULY went down and the aftermath of what it all means. Only how he can do, Ryan puts words to perspective from the past decade of work, specifically the past year, and sets the record straight on what really transpired with certain instances that other media continues to point out. With ESPN having the Super Bowl this season, the decision comes at an unusual time and shocking move to many...but did RC see it coming? Doing what our platform does best, the guys create a space for the vulnerability of the situation, Ryan's reflection, the emotional side, cultural impact and asks if Ryan has anything he wishes he would have done differently that may have changed the end result. Extremely personal discussion, that's raw, authentic and true to who we are as men. We appreciate you Pivot Family for rocking with us and for the unconditional support that allows our platform to be what it is today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Judge me at the end of it all.” Dana White  Dana White is back on The Pivot, and nothing is off limits. One of the most polarizing and realest conversations we've had ever.... From the biggest headlines surrounding the UFC to the future of boxing, Dana sits down for one of his most candid conversations yet. He addresses the recent controversies that have put him at the center of public debate, including the viral Michelle Obama comment, his appearance at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, and why he believes freedom of speech matters now more than ever. The conversation also dives into the historic UFC event planned at the White House, his vision for reshaping the boxing business, the latest on Conor McGregor, and what it takes to lead one of the biggest sports organizations in the world while navigating constant scrutiny. Beyond the business of fighting, Dana opens up about mental health, managing stress, personal growth, and the mindset that's helped him thrive through decades of pressure, criticism, and success. Raw, unfiltered, and packed with stories you've never heard before, this is Dana White as you've never seen him—only on The Pivot Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I am the face of boxing.” Boots Ennis  Fresh off cementing himself as one of boxing's elite, undefeated world champion Jaron "Boots" Ennis joins The Pivot Podcast for an honest conversation that led him down a road of perfection with a 36-0 record and 32 Knockouts.  He may be a quiet guy but once that switch is flipped, Boots goes to another level and is not someone to mess with. From growing up in one of boxing's most respected families to carrying on his family's legacy as a world champion, Boots opens up about the discipline, sacrifices, and mindset required to reach the top. He shares why respect isn't given to in boxing—it's earned every time you step into the ring—and explains why proving himself has always mattered more than chasing popularity. Boots also gives his perspective on the state of boxing today, what separates champions from contenders, and the challenges of building a legacy in a new era of the sport. The Philadelphia superstar reflects on the fighters who inspired his journey, including Floyd Mayweather and Mike Tyson, and discusses the lessons and skills he took from watching greatness. With confidence, humility, and an unwavering belief in his abilities, Boots reveals what continues to drive him as he pursues undisputed status and boxing immortality. Now at the top of the sport, Boots' target is getting bigger as he responds to recent criticism and call-outs from other fighters, including Terrance Bud Crawford who says would come out of retirement to face him.   This is a conversation about legacy, family, respect, and the relentless pursuit of greatness—one you won't want to miss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Would I have allowed fear to steal my destiny?" Ryan Clark  A Friday episode of The Pivot Podcast with the fellas. Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder kick back for a classic Friday conversation, catching up on life, sports, and everything in between. The trio opens with heartfelt thoughts on Chris Johnson's ALS diagnosis, reflecting on the football brotherhood and the importance of supporting those who have given so much to the game. They also have an honest conversation about the fear of CTE—the reality that comes with playing football at the highest level. While they acknowledge the risks every player accepts, all three agree that, knowing everything they know today, they still wouldn't change a thing about the game that shaped their lives. The conversation shifts to the NBA as they debate the buzz surrounding a potential Jaylen Brown trade and what it says about today's business of sports. From there, the guys dive into a bigger question: What truly defines a great leader? Whether it's in the locker room, on the field, or in everyday life, they share the qualities they believe separate good leaders from great ones. With July marking the halfway point of the year, Ryan, Fred, and Channing each open up about the personal goals, habits, and areas they're focused on improving during the second half of 2026. Ryan also shares stories from attending Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift's wedding, giving the guys plenty to laugh about as they react in true Pivot fashion. It's thoughtful, hilarious, honest, and everything people enjoy about the locker room feel of the guys simply talking about life. No guests—just The Pivot doing what it does best. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Even a dog can wag its tail when it passes you on the street." Howard H White In this colorful episode of The Pivot Podcast, we have. the privilege of sitting with the legendary Howard H White, Nike executive, Jordan Brand ambassador, master storyteller, and one of the most influential figures in sports culture. H shares his remarkable journey from humble beginnings to becoming one of the most respected leaders at Nike and the Jordan Brand. He opens up about the pivotal moments that shaped his career, the obstacles he overcame, and the mindset that helped him turn purpose into impact. The conversation dives into his lifelong relationships with some of the biggest names in sports, including Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Derek Jeter, Charles Barkley, Serena Williams and countless other athletes and leaders who have helped shape generations both on and off the court. Howard offers a rare behind-the-scenes perspective on the trust, loyalty, and leadership that define those relationships. He shares personal experiences and never-heard-before stories of having a front row seat to the greatest athletes in history. More than a conversation about sports and sneakers, this episode is packed with timeless lessons on leadership, resilience, faith, mentorship, and building a legacy that extends far beyond personal success. This is a masterclass in character from a man who has spent decades inspiring some of the world's greatest athletes—and proving that the most powerful legacy isn't what you accomplish, but who you help along the way. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“In life, you have to do the things that scare you.” Kam Patterson Kam Patterson, comedian and Hollywood star, sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for an honest conversation about his metaphoric rise in comedy and the lessons that shaped him along the way. Kam opens up about growing up, finding his voice through stand-up, and the invaluable advice his father gave him that continues to guide his life and career. He reflects on the mistakes he's made, the pressure that comes with sudden success, and the challenges of staying authentic while navigating the entertainment industry. The conversation dives into Kam's breakout moments on Kill Tony, his experiences around Saturday Night Live, and the challenges he faced trying to adapt his comedic style to formats like Weekend Update. He shares how those struggles pushed him to grow as a performer and better understand his voice as a comedian. Despite recent backlash his mentor Tony Hinchcliffe has received from the black community, Kam shares a different side of working with the comedian who he credits for changing his life in ways he can’t explain.   Kam also discusses making the leap into acting and what it's been like working alongside Kevin Hart on his upcoming movie, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the opportunities and responsibilities that come with expansion, discussing the transition from stand-up stages to the big screen. Filled with humor, honesty, and insight, this episode is a powerful conversation about resilience, self-belief, embracing challenges, and trusting the process even when the path forward isn't always clear. From family and failure to fame and finding purpose, Kam delivers a candid, hilarious, and inspiring look at the journey behind one of comedy's fastest-rising stars. This is a conversation about perseverance, growth, and betting on yourself when nobody else sees the vision. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I was a rare commodity.” Champ Bailey  Hall of Fame cornerback Champ Bailey joins Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor for a conversation that goes far beyond football. Widely regarded as one of the greatest defensive backs to ever play the game, Champ reflects on the mindset, preparation, and discipline that helped build his legendary career. From his early days in the NFL to becoming a shutdown corner who rarely allowed quarterbacks to challenge him, he opens up about what made him different and the standards he held himself to every time he stepped on the field.  Revealing one of the hardest experiences Champ went through, he shares the tough reality of learning business, that sometimes no matter how good you are at something, if you aren't a decision maker's pick, you won't be given the chance for success. He takes us inside one of the biggest trades in NFL history, recounting his move from Washington to Denver and how that moment reshaped the trajectory of his career. He also revisits his remarkable 2006 season, when he reached the peak of his powers and cemented his reputation as one of football's most feared defenders. He also weighs in on comparisons to fellow all-time great Darrelle Revis, offering his perspective on the debate and what separates elite cornerbacks from the rest. The conversation wouldn't be complete without reliving one of the most iconic plays of his career — the unforgettable 99-yard interception return against New England. Champ gives a play-by-play breakdown of what he saw, what he was thinking, and how close he came to finishing the touchdown that fans still talk about today. We have some good laughs as he takes us inside what was going through his mind running down the field before he was brought down.  Now a father, Champ shares how life and leadership have evolved off the field, discussing family, fatherhood, and the lessons football taught him that he carries into raising his children.  From humble beginnings in Georgia to Canton, Ohio, Champ Bailey's story is one of talent, sacrifice, and perseverance, as he reflects on the self-belief that took him from a small-town athlete with big NFL dreams to one of the most dominant cornerbacks the game has ever seen...sharing invaluable advice for the next generation of athletes and the conversation is truly a masterclass in greatness from one of the game's all-time legends. Don't miss this unforgettable Pivot with Champ Bailey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Who says you can't win on a losing hand?" Kane Brown The Pivot takes Nashville...Country superstar Kane Brown joins The Pivot for one of his most candid conversations yet, opening up about the unlikely path that took him from posting videos on social media during work breaks to becoming one of the biggest names in country music. Sitting down with Ryan, Channing and Fred, Kane reflects on the challenges of breaking into a genre where he often feels overlooked, he shares how his determination, faith and family values help him navigate obstacles, racial encounters and industry skepticism along the way. Despite chart-topping success, sold-out arenas and countless accolades, Kane explains why he's never fully satisfied and continues chasing the next level. From battling self-doubt, loneliness that comes with success and mental health struggles of navigating fame, the conversation hits all levels. The conversation dives deep into his life off the stage—from recording music with his wife and building a family together to embracing the role of fatherhood and finding purpose beyond fame. Kane also opens up about the frustrating pattern of being passed over during awards season, how criticism became fuel, and why gratitude and ambition can coexist. A lifelong Georgia football fan, Kane shares stories about his friendships with some of the biggest names in sports, including Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce, offering a glimpse into the relationships he's built far beyond the music world. From viral videos and self-belief to family, legacy and the pursuit of greatness, Kane Brown delivers an honest look at success, sacrifice and the question he's still trying to answer: When you've reached the top, what does the finish line really look like? This is a conversation about resilience, identity, purpose and the relentless drive to keep pushing forward—even when the world says you've already made it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“This isn’t Little League, there’s no rule we all have to line up and shake hands.” Ryan Clark  Special Friday Pivot as we prepare to spend the coming days doing what we do! Father's Day is supposed to be about celebrating dads—but in pure Channing fashion, He marks it as the dumbest holiday on the calendar! We get into why he feels that way and talking so much more as Chan, Fred and Ryan start the convo fired up about a legendary summer of sports heating up— with underdogs becoming icons, Knicks championship unifying the city that doesn’t sleep, and the World Cup action kicking off being everything it’s promised to be!  Checking out FIFA favorite on the pitch to the growing conversation around Victor Wembanyama, respect among competitors, and where sportsmanship fits in today's game. The conversation takes a turn as the guys discuss the things we struggle to tell our families and the people closest to us, the emotions we carry in silence, and why vulnerability remains one of the hardest challenges for men. The guys reflect on the passing of their fellow teammate and friend Aldon Smith, the pressures athletes face long after the cameras stop rolling, and why mental health conversations need to move beyond headlines and hashtags.  And as we head into the weekend of Dad’s, Ryan, Channing, and Fred chat fatherhood, family, and the realities of being the men their kids count on. Channing gets personal about his father's impact on his life and the funny memories they made together in his final days.  From laughs and locker-room stories to honest conversations about grief, family, purpose, and fatherhood, this is one of those episodes that reminds you why The Pivot is more than a sports podcast—it's three men trying to make sense of life in real time. Pivot Family...comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“16 years in the NBA and 70% of my career, I played depressed. “-JR Smith In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, former NBA champion and basketball icon JR Smith sits down for one of his most candid conversations yet. From his rise as a high school phenom to a 16-year NBA career, JR reflects on the highs, lows, and lessons that shaped his journey. He opens up about playing on the biggest stage alongside LeBron James, competing in multiple NBA Finals, and what it meant to win an NBA Championship. Beyond the highlights and headlines, JR shares the personal battles he faced with mental health, the pressure of fame, and navigating life under constant public scrutiny. JR also revisits one of the most questionable and talked about moments of his career—the infamous NBA Finals play that became a defining headline of his legacy—sharing what was going through his mind, how he handled the backlash, and the lessons he learned from a mistake that nearly altered basketball history. JR also discusses some of the darkest moments of his life, including time spent in jail, the devastating loss of a close friend, and how those experiences changed his perspective forever. He speaks honestly about fatherhood, the challenges and rewards of parenting, and the responsibility of being a role model for his family. Now in a new chapter of life, JR reflects on personal growth, finding purpose beyond basketball, and the mindset that continues to drive him forward. This is a raw, honest, and inspiring conversation about resilience, redemption, and discovering who you are when the game is no longer the center of your world. Don't miss this powerful episode of The Pivot with JR Smith. Pivot Family...comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Everything Gets Answered In Season 5..."Mekai Curtis On this Friday special of The Pivot Podcast, we sit down with actor Mekai Curtis, the breakout star of Raising Kanan, for an inspiring conversation about perseverance, family, and the journey to becoming one of television's most compelling leading men as part of Powerbook III's hit drama series. Mekai reflects on his early days as a child actor on Disney Channel, the sacrifices his family made to support his dreams, and how his parents' unwavering belief gave him the confidence to pursue a career in Hollywood. He opens up about the challenges of growing up in the entertainment industry, finding his identity as an actor, and the lessons that shaped him along the way. The conversation dives into his starring role as Kanan Stark in Raising Kanan, including the pressure of carrying a hit series, the show's massive success, and what it's been like collaborating with executive producer 50 Cent and an accomplished cast and creative team. Mekai shares behind-the-scenes stories, discusses the relationships he's built with his fellow actors, and reveals how he prepares for one of television's most complex characters. With Season 5 marking the final chapter of Raising Kanan, Mekai reflects on the show's legacy, the emotional process of saying goodbye, and what he hopes fans take away from Kanan's journey. He promises that cliffhangers will be answered and the show will make viewers live and breathe every scene. He also discusses the importance of balancing real life with the darker realities of the character he portrays and how he protects his mental and emotional well-being while bringing Kanan to life. From Disney Channel to leading one of the biggest dramas on television, Mekai Curtis' story is one of faith, hard work, family support, and staying true to yourself. This is a conversation you won't want to miss. Pivot Family...comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Regardless of what people think of me, I know who I am & let my play talk for me.” Trae Young  Some conversations hit right on time and this is one of them- we sit down with NBA star Trae Young for one of his most personal and revealing episodes yet, peeling back the layers of one of sports' most misunderstood stars. From Oklahoma roots to growing up under the guidance of his father and navigating the pressures that came with being a basketball prodigy, Trae opens up about the journey that shaped him into one of the league's most polarizing and electrifying players. He reflects on draft night, being traded moments after being selected, and how that blockbuster deal fueled the chip on his shoulder from day one. Trae shares stories from his high school days competing alongside future NBA stars Jalen Brunson and De'Aaron Fox, the doubts he faced throughout his career, and the motivation he found every time critics counted him out. He revisits his unforgettable playoff battles in New York, embracing the infamous "F*** You Trae Young" chants at Madison Square Garden and turning hostility into fuel. The conversation also takes a deeper look at his years in Atlanta—the highs, the heartbreaks, and the magical run to the Eastern Conference Finals that changed the trajectory of his career. Trae reflects on falling short of reaching the NBA Finals, the lessons learned from adversity, and what it meant to carry a franchise's expectations. Setting the record straight, Trae opens up for the first time on how the move to the Wizards became a reality and the misconceptions around his departure from the Hawks, a city that he called home for so long.  Now entering a new chapter following his move from Atlanta to Washington, Trae discusses leaving behind the city that drafted him, embracing a fresh opportunity with a hungry group of young players and the legacy he hopes to build moving forward. He takes us inside his circle, to understand more just why and how the trade came together. In an emotional moment, Trae reflects on the bond with his younger brother, the urge to protect him every step of the way and how he works to make sure his career doesn’t cast a shadow on the future he’s creating. Raw, honest, and insightful, this episode reveals the man behind the headlines as Trae opens up about family, criticism, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of greatness. Pivot Family...comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“If we are teammates working towards same goal, how do we grow apart?”-Channing Crowder  A Friday with the fellas as Ryan, Channing and Fred unpack the blockbuster headlines in sports this week from AJ Brown to Myles Garrett to Odell Beckham Jr to rising star Jared Verse, discussing how each situation could reshape NFL teams, locker rooms, and championship expectations. The Rams going all in, Patriots and Eagles are all the talk and OBJ reunites with his old team to see if the veteran star can shake up the Big Apple once again. From the gridiron to the hardwood, the guys shifts gears to share their thoughts on the NBA Finals, the biggest storylines, the pressure moments, and which players are built for the spotlight when everything is on the line. They make their picks and give respect to both Knicks and Spurs stars for one of the best championship match ups we've seen in years. As always, the conversation goes far beyond sports, as the trio gets real about the things that run them hot, talk why resilience matters when life gets tough, and how success often comes down to refusing to quit when everything points to giving up. They also explore a reality every athlete—and every person—eventually faces: sometimes people grow apart. Whether it's teammates, friends, or family, they discuss how relationships evolve and what it takes to navigate change without losing yourself. With Jay Z popping back out, dropping some new verses- the guys reflect on when legends age out and when to know it's time. Football, basketball, life lessons, laughs, and unfiltered perspective—it's another can't-miss episode of The Pivot Podcast. Pivot Family...comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"My story isn't a basketball story, it's a life story." Greg Oden On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, we sit down with former No. 1 overall NBA Draft pick Greg Oden for one of the most honest and powerful conversations of his life. For years, Greg Oden's name has been tied to one word: "bust." Drafted ahead of future MVP and NBA champion Kevin Durant in 2007, Oden became the subject of endless debates about what could have been. But as Durant himself has said, Greg was never truly given a chance—his career was derailed by injuries before the basketball world ever got to see what he could become. In this raw and revealing conversation, Greg reflects on the pressure of being the No. 1 pick, the weight of expectations, and the frustration of seeing his legacy defined by circumstances beyond his control. From his rise as a high school phenom and Ohio State star to the devastating injuries that robbed him of years on the court, Greg shares the emotional and physical battles that shaped his journey. Parts of this conversation bare all as Greg's transparency truly brings his pain and passion to the forefront. He opens up about his time with the Portland Trail Blazers, the criticism and scrutiny that followed him throughout his career, and what it was like earning a second chance with the Miami Heat and reaching the NBA Finals alongside some of the game's biggest names from Lebron James to Dwayne. Wade to Chris Bosh. Beyond basketball, Greg discusses his struggles with mental health, depression, addiction, self-worth, and the challenges of rebuilding his life after the game. He speaks candidly about regrets, losing loved ones, what ifs , public perception, and the process of finding peace with a career that never unfolded the way anyone expected. This episode isn't about what Greg Oden wasn't. It's about who he is, what he endured, and how he found the strength to keep moving forward when the world had already written his story for him. Greg's new chapter is leading as a dedicated father, mentor, college advisor and also filmmaker, with his feature film "Bust" getting ready to release. A powerful conversation about resilience, perspective, redemption, and one of basketball's greatest "what ifs." Pivot Family...comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Men put a mask to hide what appears to be weak to the world.”-Jason Wilson  On this powerful episode of The Pivot Podcast, the guys sit down with bestselling author, martial arts master, mentor, and transformational leader Jason Wilson for a raw and inspiring conversation about manhood, healing, and emotional strength. Known for his groundbreaking work helping boys and men navigate trauma, masculinity, and mental health, Jason opens up about the life experiences that shaped his mission and the impact of his Detroit-based youth development program. From the discipline of martial arts to the vulnerability required for true healing, Jason shares how he’s helping redefine what strength looks like for men today. The conversation dives into his bestselling books, his mentorship philosophy, the emotional struggles many men silently carry, and why healing—not hiding—is the path to becoming whole. With honesty, wisdom, and hard-earned perspective, Jason challenges outdated ideas of masculinity and offers a blueprint for resilience, accountability, and emotional freedom. This one hits deep and truly instrumental on many levels, especially with family values—this is a conversation every man, parent, coach, and leader needs to hear. Pivot Family...comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Champions do daily what everyone does occasionally.”-Kenny Smith  NBA champion, award-winning analyst, and basketball icon Kenny “The Jet” Smith joins The Pivot for a layered conversation about basketball, brotherhood, family, and legacy. From his early days at the University of North Carolina playing under legendary coach Dean Smith to winning back-to-back NBA championships with the Houston Rockets, Kenny reflects on the defining moments that shaped his career and his life. Kenny opens up about competing during the Michael Jordan era and shares stories about his longtime relationship with MJ, what made him different, and how that generation transformed basketball forever. He reveals never-told-before stories of college shenanigans, ultimate confidence and being touted the 6th overall pick yet still having animosity towards a certain someone in Chicago. The conversation also jumps into the chemistry and chaos behind the scenes of the award-winning Inside the NBA, as Kenny reveals what it’s really like working alongside Shaquille O’Neal, Charles Barkley, and Ernie Johnson on one of the most beloved shows in sports television. He opens up about how the show became one of the most influential programs in sports television and why authenticity has always mattered most as it's given an extra voice to new media like podcasts. Beyond basketball, Kenny gets candid about fatherhood, marriage, relationships, personal growth, and navigating life in the spotlight while staying grounded through family. The crew also talks about the current state of the NBA, the rise of Victor Wembanyama, today’s superstars, the evolution of the game, and what the future of basketball looks like moving forward. Kenny doubles down on his official prediction for who will win the 2026 NBA Finals in a conversation filled with laughs, wisdom, untold stories, and real perspective that only that locker room can deliver. Pivot Family...comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"I spent a lot of time and pain trying to hide things from everyone." Thomas Davis On this episode of the The Pivot Podcast, former NFL linebacker Thomas Davis Sr. sits down for one of his most raw and emotional conversations yet. From a childhood shaped by adversity to becoming an All-American at University of Georgia and a cornerstone of the Carolina Panthers defense, Thomas opens up about the journey behind the success fans thought they knew. He reflects on battling through three devastating ACL tears in the same knee, defying every expectation to return to the field and eventually becoming one of the most respected leaders in the NFL. Thomas also shares what it was like playing alongside Luke Kuechly, building one of football’s most feared defenses, and helping lead Carolina to the Super Bowl. He shares the one time he regrets not listening to Luke and the Lombardi it possibly cost him and his team. But beyond the accolades and highlight reels, Thomas speaks candidly about the darker chapters of his life — his dependence on painkillers during his playing career, the physical and emotional toll football took on him, and the personal consequences that followed after retirement. In a deeply vulnerable discussion, he addresses his divorce, the estranged relationship with some of his children, and the struggle to rediscover himself after the game ended. This is a conversation about resilience, accountability, pain, healing, and what happens when the cheers stop and real life begins. Powerful one, Pivot Family...comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“It is a privilege to go see what’s possible.” Allyson Felix  The saying goes, pressure is privilege and on this episode of The Pivot Podcast, the guys sit down with Olympic legend Allyson Felix for one of the most honest and inspiring conversations. From becoming the most decorated track and field athlete in Olympic history to chasing an unprecedented comeback at 40 to defying odds in motherhood, Allyson opens up about the mindset, sacrifice, and resilience that continue to drive her. She reflects on the difference between failure and success, why mental health became just as important as physical performance, and how some of her hardest moments shaped her greatest victories. Allyson also shares the deeply personal story of her troubled pregnancy, the life-threatening complications she faced, and how motherhood completely transformed her perspective on sport, business, and purpose. The conversation dives into her groundbreaking stance against Nike over maternity protections for female athletes — a decision that sparked industry-wide change and empowered women across sports to use their voices unapologetically. Beyond the track, Allyson talks about building businesses alongside her brother, creating opportunities beyond athletics, and what the future looks like after competition. This episode is about legacy, courage, reinvention, and proving that greatness doesn’t stop with medals — it evolves with purpose. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"If I could have played against Michael Jordan everyday, I would have because I am a competitor." John Starks With NBA playoffs heating up, the New York Knicks look to be a favorite in the East and the city of New York is buzzing with the same type of energy that rivaled that of the 90s teams. And who better to talk about this type of pressure than a man who lived and breathed it. Former NBA All-Star and legend John Starks joins The Pivot Podcast for a raw and inspiring conversation about perseverance, pressure, and proving doubters wrong. Starks opens up about his difficult upbringing and troubled youth, sharing the challenges that shaped the relentless mentality he carried throughout his basketball journey. From going undrafted to becoming one of the most electrifying players in the NBA, he reflects on the grit it took to earn his place in the league and etched in history books. The former New York Knicks fan favorite revisits the intensity of 1990s basketball, the culture surrounding the Knicks during their fierce rivalries, and the unforgettable moments that defined his career — including “The Dunk” over Chicago and the highs and heartbreaks of deep playoff battles. A fierce competitor, Starks talks about the 90s rivalries, facing Michael Jordan and the pure physicality of the sport that makes the game so different back then to now. He opens up about his infamous game seven collapse, the devastation he suffered after that loss and the hurt carried with him for letting his team and city down. Although a fan favorite with no blame cast on him, Starks tried to block it all out and shares what it took to get him out of the emotional rut to be himself again on the court. Despite never getting a chance to redeem himself at a championship title. Starks speaks candidly about overcoming criticism, handling pressure in New York, and what his journey represents for overlooked athletes chasing impossible dreams. Getting into the NBA today, Starks gives his perspective on some of the young stars dominating the court, why SGA is making waves and shares why he thinks this NY team is the one to beat, revealing a conversation he had with Jalen Brunson on Knicks culture. Throughout the conversation, the guys and Starks dive into legacy, resilience, mental toughness, and the impact he continues to have on generations of basketball fans and players who see his story as proof that determination can outwork talent when opportunity finally arrives. He opens up on his youth, how his poor choices off the court could have derailed his career and how his brother saved him by pushing him back on the path of basketball away from the streets. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I was afraid being a mom would hold me back then it became my greatest strength."- Laura Rutledge A Pivotal conversation as we celebrate Mother’s Day and all the amazing women who impact lives daily. We welcome Emmy Award-Winning sports television host, Laura Rutledge, for a raw and inspiring conversation about the journey behind the success. Before becoming one of the most recognizable faces in sports media, Laura was on a path that she never thought would end up landing her a sideline view of sports’ biggest arenas from NFL to College Football to The Masters. In a deeply personal revelation, Laura opens up about the sacrifices, grief, fear of losing her career after becoming a mom, and the relentless work it takes to show up for both family and purpose. A powerful reminder that strength isn’t just what you achieve — it’s what you overcome. Laura shares the emotional decision of becoming a mother while fearing it could slow down — or even ruin — the career she worked so hard to build. Reflecting on her recent years, she opens up about the real fear and even disappointment of finding out about her first pregnancy and how that single experience changed her mindset and course of life forever. She talks candidly about balancing ambition with family, overcoming doubt, handling loss, and redefining success beyond titles and television. Laura explains the  support of her long-time husband, breaking the mold and attacking life differently than most couples, Laura opens up on the challenges of having a high profile career, while trying to raise kids away from the spotlight and stay true to her roots. Although her younger years were shaped by a competitive nature- performing ballet overseas, winning Miss Florida in 2012 and developing a deep love of Gator pride attending Florida University, Laura discovered her true calling and the love of her in life, in an unexpected turn. Laura opens up about meeting her husband, Josh early in life and building a relationship while navigating the uncertainty of a rising career in sports broadcasting. She reflects on breaking into a male-dominated industry, earning respect in sports media, and the pressure that came with constantly proving herself on the biggest stages. This is a powerful conversation about ambition, sacrifice, motherhood, love, and pure authenticity you don’t want to miss. And from our Pivot Family to yours-Happy Mother's Day to all the women out there who consistently show up with unconditional love and praying for those who may be missing their moms today, we see you and send you strength. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Do you want to be right or do you want to win? I want to win.” -Will Packer When Will Packer pulls up to The Pivot Podcast, the conversation goes far beyond Hollywood headlines, combining sports and business to one of the most entertaining yet educational episodes we've had. Will unpacks the real story behind his rise—from grinding it out as a young mind at at HBCU to becoming one of the most powerful producers in the game. He shares how he built a billion-dollar film resume from the ground up, turning bold ideas into box office hits while navigating an industry that rarely hands out opportunities. But this isn’t just about success. Packer gets candid about the missteps, the pressure of managing money and expectations, and the moments where everything could have fallen apart. From producing cultural staples to learning hard lessons about risk, partnerships, and perseverance, his journey is a masterclass in betting on yourself—even when the odds say otherwise. From navigating Hollywood’s gatekeepers to creating opportunities where none existed, his path is paved with resilience, ownership, and vision as we unpack the wins, losses, and the pivots in between—and what it really takes to turn ambition into a lasting legacy. He reflects on hits like Girls Trip, Ride Along, Think Like a Man, and Stomp the Yard to life—films that didn’t just perform well, but became cultural movements. Along the way, he’s collaborated with some of the biggest names in Hollywood, including Kevin Hart, Ice Cube, Queen Latifah, Tiffany Haddish, and the late Paul Walker. On day one of filming Takers, Will had to step in and defuse a tense moment when Paul nearly walked off set—quickly navigating the pressure to keep the production on track. It became a test of leadership, showing how staying composed and solutions-focused can turn a potential setback into a moment of trust and respect. Filled with inside stories, lessons and advice on staying at the top, this episode is about building confidence as a muscle, taking big leaps, and overcoming rejection in order to get doors to finally open, Will is unguarded and uses humor to share some of his most impactful moments to allow us to see a side of him we haven't before, hoping his story inspires and ignites a fire in others. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“It’s never easy to relive near death experiences.”-Army Sgt. Randy Adams As May starts, Mental Health Awareness Month, this conversation highlights the importance of confronting trauma, seeking support, and finding hope even in life’s darkest moments. From the streets of Chicago to the frontlines of Afghanistan, Randy Adams has lived a life marked by conflict, courage, and ultimately, transformation. In this powerful episode of The Pivot Podcast, Randy opens up about his early years growing up in a tough environment where survival often meant learning how to fight—both physically and mentally. Searching for purpose, he enlisted in the military, a decision that would take him across the world into the heart of war. Randy shares the realities of combat in Afghanistan, the brotherhood forged in battle, and the life-altering moment that changed everything—an unexpected battle that left him with devastating injuries, leading to sepsis damaging the tissues in his face and forcing life-saving surgery to remove severely compromised portions of his face. This traumatic experience forever changed Randy physically and mentally, suffering so much loss. But what could have been the end of his story became the turning point. Facing unimaginable loss and a long road to recovery, Randy dives into the emotional and psychological aftermath of his injuries, including the struggle to rediscover his identity. He opens up about the darkness he felt and what was the one thing that kept him from ending his life when he thought disappearing was the only option. Through faith, resilience, and a refusal to give up, Randy found a new mission. While still strategizing and fulfilling military obligations, Randy shares his heartbreak and tragic story serving as a motivational Christian speaker, using his journey to inspire others to overcome adversity and find purpose in pain. This episode is a raw and honest conversation about trauma, faith, redemption, and what it truly means to pivot when life takes everything from you. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Do you want to be right or do you want to be interesting?” Yahya Abdul-Mateen II In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, we sit down with Yahya Abdul-Mateen II for a candid and inspiring conversation about the road that led him to becoming one of Hollywood’s most compelling actors. Full of energy, spunk and true authenticity, Yahya lets his guard down with Ryan, Channing and Fred- revealing a side of deep pain that has led to difficult healing as well as giving us a glimpse into the traits that make him one of film industry's most sought-after leading men. Yahya opens up about his childhood, sharing what it was like growing up from Louisiana to Oakland and how his upbringing and community helped shape his voice, work ethic, and backbone in creativity. He takes us behind the scenes of his unconventional journey into acting—from his aspirations of architecture and building to taking a leap of faith into acting classes and fully committing to the craft. Yahya reflects on the risks he took, the doubts he faced, and the defining moments that pushed him forward, offering insight into the discipline it took to break into a competitive industry. The conversation also dives into his standout roles across major hit projects like Aquaman, The Trial of the Chicago 7, and Watchmen—the latter earning him critical acclaim and an Emmy Award. Yahya shares how he approaches complex characters and prepares for emotionally demanding performances, giving listeners a deeper understanding of his creative process. A highlight of the conversation is his discussion of stepping into his latest role, starring as John Creasy in Netflix's new series Man on Fire, famously portrayed by Denzel Washington. Yahya explains how he honors the legacy of the performance while making the role his own—bringing a fresh perspective, new emotional layers, and a distinct physical presence that reflects his personal interpretation. He goes on to share that choosing to be interesting is more impactful than being right, which is a philosophy that he has used to separate himself from others in his craft. Grounded, thoughtful, and refreshingly honest, Yahya gives us a deeper look at the mindset, resilience, and purpose behind his rise—making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in creativity, reinvention, and chasing purpose beyond comfort. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“That is the one regret I have of my time playing in New York.”-Patrick Ewing In this powerful episode of The Pivot Podcast, NBA legend Patrick Ewing sits down for a candid and reflective conversation about the journey that shaped his life and career. This one hits differently as the Hall of Famer, who rarely shares, opens up on all the highs and lows with transparency, emotion and even a touch of humor.  From his early upbringing and path to basketball greatness, Ewing opens up about the discipline, challenges, and mindset that carried him from humble beginnings to becoming a dominant force at Georgetown to NBA legend. Grounded by the sacrifice of his parents, Patrick Ewing praises his family's move to the United States from Jamaica and how it not only saved his life but paved the way for him to live his dream. He revisits his iconic college years, where he helped turn Georgetown into a national powerhouse, and shares what it meant to play under the legendary John Thompson. Ewing opens up on his pivotal moment being selected as the NBA's first overall pick to New York and how he became the cornerstone of the Knicks best years and adjusted to Big Apple fame—embracing the pressure of the bright lights, the physicality of 90s basketball, and the responsibility of leading a franchise hungry for a championship. The conversation doesn’t shy away from the toughest on-court battles and heated rivalries. Ewing reflects on intense matchups against Michael Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon, offering insight into what made those rivalries so challenging and memorable. He speaks honestly about coming close to an NBA title but never quite securing one, and how that reality has shaped his perspective over time. He also gets into the truth behind his once rocky relationship with his former coach Pat Riley and his gratitude for Jeff Van Gundy. Whether you are a sports fan or love a success story rooted in family and hard work, this will connect with you as we take a trip down memory lane through one of the most infamous times in all of sports, classic moments forever etched in our mind, and inside stories from some of the greatest basketball games and athletes to ever play, told from the perspective of an absolute legend. How Ewing views his impact on the game, what he hopes people remember, and how he’s found peace with both the triumphs and the unfinished business of his career is one of the more honest, thoughtful, and deeply human conversations we've had that goes far beyond basketball. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Playing for Real Madrid, it’s the biggest stage in sports, the pressure is a privilege."- Aurélien Tchouaméni The Pivot goes international! Getting ready for World Cup action, we tapped in with a man who's had success and defeat at the highest level of the sport while juggling all that life brings with it and he sits with us to give an inside-glimpse of what it's like to be apart of the most famous sports franchise in the world! On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Real Madrid star, Aurélien Tchouaméni opens up like never before about life at the top of world football. The Real Madrid midfielder reflects on what it means to wear one of the heaviest shirts in sports, the constant pressure to perform, and how he’s adapting to sky-high expectations both on and off the pitch. Tchouaméni explains the rollercoaster of highs and lows that come with global success and how he navigates the pressures, never allowing himself to feel the brunt of the boos or carried away with the cheers. He shares experiences of how he manages to stay focused on the pitch despite the noise outside team walls. In a deeply personal and emotional moment, Tchouaméni opens up about the racism experienced, specifically the incident with his teammate Vinícius Júnior and how it affected all of them, but says it was Vini's leadership and voice that guided them through the difficult time, kept them playing when many wanted to walk off...and in a moment of truth, Aurelien reveals those inner discussions his teammates had about that what ifs and the honest reality of racism that exists. The star midfielder also speaks candidly about representing the France national team, the pride that comes with it, and the heartbreak of the 2022 FIFA World Cup Final—including the emotional weight of missing his penalty kick in one of football’s biggest moments. He shares how hard the loss was, being overwhelmed with disappointment but found a way to move forward taking those lessons into every phase of his life, impacting him as a man and the way he approaches the game forever. Tchouaméni dives into current contract talks and what his future could look like in Madrid, while also sharing a more personal side—touching on his relationship, viral moments, maintaining balance, and staying grounded amid global fame. He breaks down the financials of the sport and how it differs from American football, and that most young players start earning thousands to play at ten years old. His excitement for the NFL and studying the history and current players has turned him into an avid fan of American Football, recently spending time with Running Back Bijan Robinson who visited them in Spain as well as exchanged messages with Tom Brady.   Looking ahead, Tchouaméni discusses redemption, growth, and his mindset as he prepares for the 2026 FIFA World Cup and what it means to be representing his country. This episode is a raw, insightful conversation about resilience, identity, and what it truly takes to compete at the highest level. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I had to go through the fire to be exactly who I’m supposed to be.”- Trick Williams In this special pre-WrestleMania episode of The Pivot Podcast, WWE Superstar Trick Williams pulls up in his lemon pepper steppers showing out for Ryan, Channing and Fred in a powerful, wide-ranging conversation that goes far beyond the ring, giving a rare glimpse of the same flair and energy that has captivated million around the world. Trick shocks us all sharing a full circle moment, from when he was a young boy having a run-in with Fred to sitting across from him now and how that impacted him forever. He opens up about his journey from the football field—where he played under legendary coach Steve Spurrier—to finding his true calling in professional wrestling, and how that athletic foundation shaped his mindset and work ethic in WWE. Trick dives into the importance of bringing culture, authenticity, and charisma to sports entertainment, explaining how he’s helping redefine what it means to be a modern superstar. He breaks down how his signature chant, “Whoop That Trick,” organically caught fire with fans and evolved into a full-blown WWE phenomenon—turning arenas electric, call-and-response moments that showcase his undeniable connection with the crowd. He even reflects on a surreal co-sign moment with Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson —an unforgettable stamp of respect that signaled Trick’s arrival on the big stage. As he reflects on his upbringing and the deep influence of his family, especially his mother, Trick attributes his mom's strength and guidance key into molding him into the man he is today. The conversation also touches on love and partnership, as Trick shares insight into his relationship with his fiancée, who’s also a wrestler, and how they balance ambition, support, and the grind of the business together. With WrestleMania this week, Trick speaks candidly about the biggest matches of his career ahead, the pressure, the opportunity, and the legacy he’s determined to build. The true epitome of the word Pivot, Trick's compelling story is a lesson to all, that even when one door closes, never be afraid to kick another one down, because doing the unimaginable might end up being your true calling all along. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"We are all sacrificing something." Craig Melvin Today Show co-host, Craig Melvin sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for a powerful and deeply personal conversation about purpose, perseverance, and perspective. From his early days growing up in South Carolina to becoming a trusted voice as a face of morning television, Craig reflects on the defining moments that shaped both his career and character. Relaxed and with transparency, Craig gives us a rare look back on his childhood, the lessons he learned from his mom and how his complicated relationship with his father led to one of the biggest and most impactful pivots in his life. His father's transformation from addiction into growth through love, hardship, and understanding helped redefine their relationship over time, and that journey ultimately inspired him to write his book. He speaks about vulnerability, forgiveness, and what it means to break cycles and evolve. Inside his life off-camera—Craig shares insights into his marriage, the realities of parenting, true sacrifice and the constant balancing act between ambition and presence. The guys share their stories of raising a family with humility, gratitude and exchange funny father moments that they normally wouldn't say aloud! Discussing the pressures and privileges of being a national TV host, Craig reveals how he's maintained his identity, the tough balancing act and what built the tight-knit bond between his Today Show family, giving us a glimpse into Savannah Guthrie's strength and how her return is truly a beacon of hope for all. Craig also speaks about turning personal loss into purpose, honoring his late brother by becoming an advocate for awareness around Colon cancer, using his platform to encourage early screening and potentially save lives, he even gets Ryan, Fred and Channing to agree to getting colonoscopy's as part of a bigger push for men to do so. Turning a life theme into his newest project, Craig shares how his new show Glass Half Full explores the stories and mindsets of athletes, entertainers, entrepreneurs and personalities through deep conversation over time, peeling back layers we never knew existed. Reflecting on legacy, future goals, and the impact he hopes to leave—not just in media, but within his own family, this episode is a thoughtful, honest exploration of growth, identity, and the power of showing up—both professionally and personally. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I feel like God had his hands on me because I shouldn’t be alive.” On this powerful episode of the The Pivot Podcast, the hosts sit down with Grammy-winning artist Lecrae for a raw and inspiring conversation about transformation, faith, and purpose. Lecrae opens up about his turbulent upbringing, sharing how a tough past filled with instability and street influences shaped his early identity. He reflects on the lessons he learned from the streets—both the survival instincts and the emotional scars—and how those experiences ultimately pushed him to search for something deeper. That search led him to Christian music, where he found not only faith, but a calling that would redefine his life. Lecrae also dives into his evolution as an artist, discussing the challenges of balancing authenticity, faith, and mainstream success in today’s music industry. From building a groundbreaking career in Christian hip-hop to using his platform to inspire and uplift others, he shares the mindset and mission that keep him grounded. From his musical hits to working in the studio with some of music's top artists, Lecrae carved a niche for him that has led to high success and a global impact.  At its core, this conversation is about growth, redemption, and purpose—highlighting Lecrae’s goal to bridge worlds, impact lives, and prove that your past doesn’t have to define your future. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You Asked, We Answered: Sports, Growth & Hard Truths It's a Good Friday for sure, on this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan, Channing and Fred are tapping in with the fans and answering some of the realest questions out there—about sports, life, and the moments that shape who you become. The guys dive into one of the biggest debates in today’s game: is NIL changing college sports for better or worse? From locker room perspective to long-term impact, they break down what today’s athletes are gaining, the root of it all—and what might be getting lost along the way. Then it gets personal. The crew reflects on the one decision that changed the trajectory of their lives, and why those defining moments don’t always feel big when you’re in them yet turn out to be life changing. The guys also talk about the importance of having a Plan B—when to pivot, when to stay down, and how to recognize the difference. The guys reflect and look at the people who inspired them early on—the role models, idols, and real-life examples that helped shape their mindset both on and off the field, the answers of who's on that list might surprise you! And of course, we weigh in on the situation surrounding Jaden Ivey, offering perspective on pressure, expectations, and navigating the spotlight when the world is watching. It’s honest, unfiltered, and straight from the heart—just how you expect it. Pivot Family, You asked. We answered. Thank you for rocking with us and keep the comments coming, don't forget to like and subcribe too! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“There’s a difference between earning and building wealth.” Rich Kleiman In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, business mogul Rich Kleiman sits down for a candid and compelling conversation about his unconventional path from small-time bookie to one of the most influential figures in sports and business. With honesty and sharp insight, Kleiman reflects on the pivotal moments that shaped his journey—lessons learned on the streets, the risks he took early on, and how those experiences laid the groundwork for his future as a dealmaker and entrepreneur. A central part of the conversation highlights his long-standing partnership with NBA superstar Kevin Durant. Kleiman offers a behind-the-scenes look at how their relationship grew from friendship into a powerful business alliance, including the creation of Thirty Five Ventures and their approach to investing, branding, and storytelling. Kleiman dives deep into his evolution as a business strategist, detailing how he built a reputation rooted in trust, loyalty, and vision. From lessons learned through shadowing Jay Z to what the streets taught him the hard way, Rich shares the vision behind co-founding Boardroom, the media and investment platform redefining how athletes and fans engage with the business of sports, culture, and entertainment. Throughout the conversation, Kleiman touches on his work across industries—from media and tech to sports and philanthropy—revealing the key mindset that has helped him navigate high-stakes environments and build lasting impact. This is a story about reinvention, resilience, and recognizing opportunity where others might not. It’s an insightful listen for anyone interested in entrepreneurship, partnership, and the business of turning passion into power. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“He said what he said!” Channing Crowder  Another Friday with the fellas, and we are keeping it real as it comes! In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor dive headfirst into the growing tension between media narratives and athlete realities—where competition doesn’t just stay on the field, but spills into headlines, hot takes, and heated exchanges. The guys unpack what happens when sports and media collide in a war of words, questioning whether loyalty still holds value in an era driven by viral moments and attention economics. Is integrity being sacrificed for clicks? And more importantly, how do athletes and analysts alike stop chasing acceptance in spaces that thrive on controversy? They break down the ongoing friction between Cam Newton and Stephen A. Smith, offering perspective on accountability, respect, and the blurred lines between critique and personal attack while RC opens up on his views being dragged into it. The conversation expands to Dan Orlovsky’s recent criticisms and the debate surrounding leadership and performance expectations at the quarterback position—including the Fernando Mendoza vs. Ty Simpson No. 1 QB discussion. Channing agrees with Dan O while Fred feels that this 2026 QB NFL Draft class is weaker than recent ones. Switching gears to NBA and basketball talk, the crew reflects on Victor Wembanyama’s unique presence in the league—his confidence, individuality, and whether his global background gives him an edge in navigating pressure without the weight of American sports culture norms or fandom of players like Lebron. The guys are fired up by Wemby' swag and echo his MVP chatter. Rounding out the episode, the guys take a moment to acknowledge J. Cole’s message about authenticity and self-awareness, tying it back to the broader theme of staying grounded in truth while the world demands performance. We also spoke about acceptance, finding worth in achievement and what is the standard we value our success at. It’s a raw, honest, and thought-provoking episode about identity, accountability, and the cost of being real in a system built for noise. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I regret none of it, I lived the best of both worlds.” Jeezy We couldn't hide the excitement on this one, sitting with the man behind the soundtrack of our young adult lives...In this powerful episode of The Pivot Podcast, Jeezy pulls up for a raw and reflective conversation about the journey that shaped him—from the pressures and grind of Atlanta’s streets to becoming a defining voice in hip hop culture. He opens up about the evolution of his music, how his mindset shifted over the years, and what it really means to bet on yourself when the odds aren’t in your favor. Jeezy speaks candidly about carrying the weight of being a culture icon, the responsibility that comes with it, and how Atlanta’s influence helped mold not just his sound, but an entire era of music. The guys go deep into his phases of life, the transition of growth in his albums, using music as his message to culture, betting on himself when all else fails and taking risks despite being advised not to.  Beyond the spotlight, he dives into personal battles with depression, offering a rare look at the emotional challenges behind the success. Jeezy also reflects on a pivotal moment in his life—being arrested—and how that experience became a turning point that forced him to reassess his path and ultimately change the trajectory of his life.  Ofcourse, we have our laughs and lighter moments, when Channing calls him out on owing him money from the days of his music influencing his car purchases and the amount of money spent in strip clubs as well as the catalyst that pushed him back into the studio away from the outside noise.  The conversation also explores his growth as a father and the realities of co-parenting, highlighting the importance of maturity, communication, and legacy. Jeezy reflects on his long-standing bond with Jay-Z, sharing insights into their mutual respect and what he’s learned from one of the game’s greats. To top it off, he talks about his new Las Vegas residency and what this next chapter represents—not just as an artist, but as a man continuing to evolve while creating an experience for people to truly reflect on the longevity of music, message and motivation. This episode is about resilience, reinvention, and the power of staying true to your vision—no matter where you start. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Here’s why people love to air out their dirty laundry in public.”-Channing Crowder  It's a Friday back with your favorite fellas, Ryan, Channing and Fred chop it up covering a lot of topics from sports madness to public accountability to relationships to all the click bait topics trending... Online feuds and podcast bickering continues as people feel like they can say anything with conviction, we break down the latest with Kenyon Martin calling out disrespect while Chad "Ocho" Johnson stands on business to his co-hosts. More and more we learn the power of athlete owned platforms with Maxx Crosby speaking out on what REALLY went down with the Ravens being another example. Ryan shares his own experience with the situation as Channing and Fred give their perspective on the business of the league. Russell Wilson gets mixed feedback on his role in his stepson Future's life after taking him on a college visit, but the guys don't hold back on what's really at the core of this chatter with a surprise take from Channing and RC issuing a long overdue apology. Freddy T wants to know why everyone feels it's ok to film and share all private matters as the guys go deeper into family business no longer being inside discussions leading into dynamic of relationships changing... And of course we tee up a few relationship trending stories to our "Tell you how it is" expert as Channing cuts right to the root of these topics and shares his own story of what it took for his wife to finally look his way before they started dating haha! Also big shout out to women sports for March's biggest victory with the WNBA's new CBA deal as we go inside to talk about the massive increases in almost every aspect which truly reflects the value and progress. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“You don’t know what grace is, until you are in need of it.” Devon Franklin Lights, Camera, Faith- we get a behind the scenes look into the story of Devon Franklin, producer, bestselling author, husband, preacher, and purpose-driven leader for one of the most reflective conversations we've had on The Pivot Podcast. His story is proof that success isn’t just about achievement—it’s about alignment, growth, and the courage to start over when life changes direction. From Hollywood success to personal setbacks and rediscovering joy, Devon brings powerful lessons on resilience, purpose, and trusting the process. It’s a raw, inspiring discussion about letting go, betting on yourself, and having the courage to pivot into the next chapter of your life. He speaks about his gratitude for Will Smith's role in his life as well as being confident enough to take the risk of leaving a "safe" powerhouse film company to pursue his own passion of filmmaking driven by passion and purpose over position. From developing major studio hits to producing faith-inspired films for mainstream audiences, Devon's career is on the rise with no signs of slowing down. Personally, Devon talks openly about the grief, self-reflection, and healing that followed his very public divorce from Meagan Good—sharing how the experience forced him to redefine love, identity, and expectations. He opens up about heartbreak, healing, and what it really takes to move forward when the life you planned suddenly changes. But this conversation isn’t just about loss—it’s about taking chances again. Devon shares how he found the courage to believe in love again, why faith and vulnerability are essential to growth, how embracing uncertainty can lead you exactly where you’re meant to be and to always trust that life can still unfold in beautiful ways after disappointment. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"We know as the players grow, the league grows and vice versa, so we aren't settling for anything less than we've earned." Breanna Stewart March celebrates all the amazing women out there and we were pumped to sit down with one of the greatest female athletes of this generation who isn't just a legend on the court, but a superstar in all aspects! Basketball royalty Breanna Stewart joins The Pivot Podcast for a powerful conversation about leadership, legacy, and the future of women’s basketball. Fresh off winning a championship in Unrivaled Basketball, a league Stewart and her former teammate Napheesa Collier created, Breanna is preparing to etch her legacy in stone even more as she is at the forefront of a historical moment for the WNBA. Breanna opens up about her role in helping shape the WNBA’s next collective bargaining agreement and why this is critical for the league’s continued growth. She shares insight into how players are pushing for improved salaries, revenue sharing, better working conditions, and long-term sustainability as the popularity of women’s basketball reaches new heights. The foundation was built from strong women like herself, Sue Bird, Diana Taurasi to the new energy of Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Aja Wilson and Paige Bueckers...Women's sports is drawing millions of viewers worldwide. Stewart also discusses the vision behind the new Unrivaled league and why creating more opportunities for WNBA players during the offseason was so important. She explains how the league is designed to keep elite players competing in the United States while giving them greater ownership, financial opportunities, and a stronger voice in the business side of the sport. With more eyes on the sport than ever, the challenge to get it right is one of the most defining opportunities in her career. The conversation also reflects on Stewart's iconic journey—from becoming one of the greatest players in UConn history with four National Championships to winning three WNBA titles to MVP honors to the privilege of playing and winning gold for her country with Team USA . She talks about the pressure that came with being a generational talent, how those expectations shaped her competitive mindset, and what she hopes her legacy will be as the women’s game continues to evolve. Off the court, Stewart shares how motherhood and marriage have changed her perspective on life and basketball. She speaks candidly about balancing family with the demands of being a professional athlete, how becoming a mom has influenced her leadership, and the importance of building a future where the next generation of players—and young girls watching—have more opportunities than ever before. No stranger to using her platform for change, Stewart is a powerful voice in cultural and society issues as well as an advocate for women of sexual abuse. From the young girl who learned competition the hard way to now on the front lines advocating for the growth of women’s sports, Breanna Stewart continues to push the game forward while competing at the highest level. It’s a powerful discussion about impact, ownership, and using your platform to change the game. Pivot Family! Please comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to hear it all! Hot Topics Covered: WNBA Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) negotiations The vision behind the Unrivaled basketball league UConn dominance and college basketball legacy Winning WNBA championships and MVPs Leadership in women’s basketball Motherhood, marriage, and life off the court Representing Team USA and Olympic success Building the future of women’s sports Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"I produced some badass fights for UFC...and they were waiting for me to lose."- Demetrious Johnson On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, the guys sit down with one of the most technically brilliant fighters in combat sports history, Demetrious “Mighty Mouse” Johnson. Widely considered one of the greatest flyweights of all time, Johnson opens up about the journey that shaped him — from a difficult childhood to becoming a global MMA icon to the disappointment of never having the fight platform he earned. Johnson reflects on growing up with a deaf mother and the responsibility and resilience that came with it. Not meeting his biological father until later in life, Demetrious' mom and sister were always at forefront of his choices, as he worked to turn his aggression and frustration into championship wrestling and competition skills. He shares how those early experiences forged the discipline and mindset that would later define his career. The conversation dives into the highs and lows of his time in the UFC, the challenges he faced during turbulent moments in the promotion, and the pivotal decision that led him to continue his legacy on the global stage of MMA. Beyond championships and highlight-reel finishes, Johnson talks about what the sport has meant to him and the mark he hopes to leave behind. He discusses the evolution of mixed martial arts, his role in elevating the flyweight division, and how he wants to be remembered by the next generation of fighters. A complicated and often misunderstood relationship with Dana White led to Demetrious being a part of history, as the first trade in MMA with Ben Askren going to the UFC while DJ landed in a different MMA platform. Ryan goes in-depth about the elite skill set that defined DJ's career, how he ranks amongst the top MMA fighters and how his legacy is remembered. Outside the cage, the conversation turns personal. Johnson opens up about fatherhood, marriage, and the balance between being a world-class athlete and a present husband and dad. It’s a candid and thoughtful look at the man behind “Mighty Mouse,” his values, and the legacy he’s building both inside and outside the cage as well as raising children with transparency and exposing them to the harsh realties of culture, race and social issues facing the world now. A powerful conversation about perseverance, humility, and greatness you don't want to miss...Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I see it as a tragedy and a cautionary tale, just think of what it could’ve been.” Ryan Clark  Friday back with the fellas as Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor and Channing Crowder kick off March Madness and NFL's Free Agency frenzy for an unfiltered conversation where the mics seem hotter than normal...no guests—just the three guys giving fiery takes about everything happening right now in sports, culture and life. Taking a moment to talk about another young life lost to soon and why mental health is such a hard road to navigate in today's world. The conversation pivots into the wild world of podcast beefs and social media drama from 50 Cent to TI as the hosts give their honest takes on how the podcast game has changed media and why there is no standard of checks and balances. And it's Freddy T with the jaw dropping 50 Cent take. With the NFL Draft approaching and Free Agency about to shake up the league, Ryan responds to an old media clip resurfacing from 6 years ago— about his 2020 Kyler Murray projection—Chan laughs that people act like it was a new clip and is more caught up with Ryan's look from 2020 than what he said! The guys chat the biggest headlines coming out of the 2026 NFL Combine, talking about the pressure young prospects face, unfair criticisms and how media narratives can shape careers before they even begin. Getting into culture talk, crossover with sports, and how athletes and entertainers both deal with public scrutiny. They reflect on the ups and downs of life, not knowing what someone is really living with as the deeper story of Lamar Odom's addiction is revealed in a recent new documentary which opens up the discussion on what could have been for star athletes if they didn't have off the court and off the field distractions, as Channing shares his own experiences with it. Of course, it wouldn’t be The Pivot without some real-life scenarios to react to as Ryan, Channing and Fred get into a funny debate about splitting the bill on a date gone wrong—you already know what Channing is chiming in with! It’s a raw, funny, and honest conversation about sports, life, relationships, and navigating fame— the kind of unfiltered dialogue that makes The Pivot one of the most authentic podcasts in the game. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"I never try to come back the same player as the year before, I'm always looking to change something." Trent Williams Often the world sees professional athletes as invincible superheroes but what people don't see are the silent battles fought away from the field that can forever change someone. In this powerful episode of The Pivot Podcast, the guys sit down with All-Pro left tackle Trent Williams for a raw and reflective conversation about his remarkable 17-year NFL journey and what kept him focused and grounded during dark times. With recent NFL rumors swirling around Trent's future and the 49ers salary hit, the guys get right into his off-season mentality and what the road ahead looks like. From his early days establishing himself as one of the league’s most dominant linemen to becoming a cornerstone of the San Francisco 49ers, Trent opens up about the evolution of his game, the mindset required to protect quarterbacks at the highest level, and what it truly takes to sustain excellence in the trenches for nearly two decades. He also shares the deeply personal story of his cancer diagnosis — a life-altering moment that reshaped his perspective on football, family, and faith. Trent speaks candidly about fear, resilience, and how surviving that battle strengthened him both as a man and as a leader in the locker room. The conversation dives into what it’s like blocking for dynamic playmaker Christian McCaffrey, the art of creating space for one of the NFL’s most versatile weapons, and how the 49ers’ offensive system maximizes talent. Trent gives rare insight into the brilliance of head coach Kyle Shanahan, breaking down why Shanahan’s scheme is so difficult to defend and what makes him one of the true offensive geniuses in the game today. The guys also talk about Trent's Super Bowl experience and how he went into a dark place after losing the big game to the Chiefs. From Pro Bowl dominance to personal adversity, leadership, legacy, and what the future holds, this episode is a masterclass in perseverance and greatness from one of the best to ever do it. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I don’t care about backlash or any comments because In life you are going to be the hammer or the nail, I’m the hammer.” John Brown We've been waiting on this one, especially Channing who met his match in someone who is even more unapologetic than he is about approaching life, his family and his backlash. On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, we sit down with John Brown — former Mr. Universe, strategic coach, podcaster and father of NFL star Amon-Ra St. Brown — for a powerful conversation about parenting with purpose and raising professional athletes from the ground up. His parenting groundwork is built on being number one and not teaching kids to compete, but to dominate by any means necessary, always outworking and outplaying your competition. Ryan, Fred and Chan push back on this style, asking questions that get a quick and fiery response. Known for his disciplined, no-excuses approach to training and life, John Brown shares how his background in elite bodybuilding shaped the structure, mindset, and daily standards inside his household. From homeschooling and intense training sessions to language lessons and early morning workouts, he breaks down the intentional system he built to prepare his sons for excellence — not just in football, but in life. John is very confident with his style as he shares the philosophy behind raising self-motivated, high-performing kids, how structure and routine build long-term confidence, the way of teaching discipline without crushing individuality and the difference between talent and preparation, His life story — from competitive bodybuilding to building a family legacy More than a sports conversation, this episode dives deep into a rare form of love, family bonds, accountability, and what it truly takes to raise professionals in today’s world. Whether you’re a parent, coach, or young athlete, this discussion offers a blueprint for developing resilience, work ethic, and generational greatness. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I had to give up a whole childhood to be what I became.” Andre Ward With boxing headlines shaking up the sports world from big names retiring, to legends returning to fights drawing millions of views, we had to get some insight and who better to give us perspective than one of the greatest to ever do it. ..Andre Ward sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for more than just a conversation about championships — it's a conversation of resilience, discipline, and evolution. In this powerful episode of The Pivot Podcast, the undefeated two-division world champion opens up about the journey from Oakland’s toughest neighborhoods to Olympic gold and becoming one of boxing’s pound-for-pound greats. Ward reflects on the sacrifices behind the spotlight, the mental warfare of elite competition, and what it really took to retire on top. But this isn’t just about belts and legacy. Andre speaks candidly about his childhood, navigating instability at home, witnessing addiction up close, and how those early experiences shaped both his edge and his empathy. Sharing the deeply personal moments that exposed him to life or death experiences, Andre reveals the promise he made that turned his life around, leading him down a new path, one paved by faith. From his experiences, He dives deep into mental health — the pressures of perfection, the identity crisis that can follow retirement, and the importance of faith, structure, and accountability in sustaining long-term success. The conversation also explores fatherhood and parenting, with Ward sharing how breaking generational cycles became one of his greatest motivations. He discusses leadership inside his home, raising disciplined children in a distracted world, and redefining strength beyond the ring. From addiction and adversity to championships and clarity, this episode is about transformation. Andre Ward doesn’t just talk about pivoting — he embodies it. A raw, honest, and inspiring discussion about purpose, pain, and what it means to win in life long after the final bell. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“We all signed up for the criticism, and will to take a bullet for our team, that’s our job.” Bryce Young Fresh off a breakout playoff run with the Carolina Panthers, former No. 1 overall pick Bryce Young sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for a deeply personal and one of his most reflective conversations yet. Bryce opens up about the pressure of being selected first overall in the NFL Draft, the early adversity he faced adjusting to the speed and complexity of the NFL as a business, and how criticism fueled his growth rather than defined him. From learning how to command a locker room to embracing failure as part of development, Bryce shares the pivotal moments that shaped his evolution from highly touted prospect to playoff quarterback. From a long drive Bryce never envisioned making to the lessons the rough roads taught him, the guys talk about the complexity of Dave Canales' play calling, Bryce's unique bond with Xavier Legette, support from Cam Newton and how the Panther faithful can be hard to navigate but worth the privilege of being the team leader. He also discusses the mental side of the game — staying grounded amid expectations, blocking out outside noise, and building resilience during tough stretches. The conversation dives into leadership, faith, preparation habits, and what it truly means to “earn it” at the highest level. Sharing a close bond with CJ Stroud, Bryce talks about CJ's strength and talent will put him back on track ignoring the noise of this past season. Honest, thoughtful, and poised beyond his years, Bryce reflects on what the playoff run taught him about trust, accountability, and belief — not just in football, but in himself. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Human beings are the only puzzle I can’t figure out.” Aldis Hodge On this powerful episode of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor sit down with actor, producer, and master watchmaker Aldis Hodge for one of their most raw and revealing conversations yet. Hodge opens up about being raised by a single mother whose strength and sacrifice shaped his work ethic and sense of responsibility from an early age. Growing up in an area where the presence of the KKK was real and racial tension wasn’t just history—it was lived experience—he reflects on how those early encounters with hate forged both resilience and purpose. Rather than shrink, he found his voice. A passionate, unapologetic Black voice grounded in truth, excellence, and accountability. Best known for his roles in Straight Outta Compton, Hidden Figures, One Night in Miami, Hawkman in Black Adam, and currently the lead in Prime Video series Cross, Hodge shares the pressure of portraying cultural icons and superheroes alike. He discusses the responsibility that comes with representing real stories and real communities—and how he channels personal experience into every performance. Beyond Hollywood, Aldis speaks about fatherhood and how being a proud girl dad reshaped his definition of success. Legacy is no longer just about career accolades—it’s about what he models at home, the protection he provides, and the standard he sets for the next generation. In a deeply personal moment, Aldis lets us in on a powerful exchange between him and his wife that has forever changed and guided him. He also dives into his passion for puzzles and engineering, explaining how building his own watch brand is rooted in ownership, precision, and creating generational wealth. Drawing powerful parallels between elite athletes and elite artists, Hodge breaks down why mastery demands hard work, sacrifice, and the courage to pivot toward purpose. This episode is about perseverance through adversity, using your platform with intention, and building a legacy that stands taller than the obstacles meant to break you. Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“They would have had to cut my foot off before I didn’t play in Super Bowl.” Nick Emmanwori  They say Defense wins championships, and the Seattle Seahawks backed that statement up with one of the fiercest units! Keeping up Pivot tradition, we travled to the home of the world champions post Super Bowl to sit down with Nick Emmanwori, the Seattle Seahawks’ rookie safety who defied the odds and finished his first NFL season on top of the league. Nick takes us inside an unforgettable year — from his Nigerian roots to being selected as the 35th overall pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, to becoming an anchor of Seattle’s defense and a key contributor to their championship run.  We get into the biggest question looming Super Bowl week when a video of Nick surfaced not being able to walk as he opens up on the ankle injury scare heard round the football world as he shares missing the biggest game of his life was never an option and what he did to push through the unknown to stay locked in mentally and physically to help his team win the Lombardi. He takes Ryan, Channing and Fred into the locker room mentality to paint a picture of what Seattle truly built the past year and why he trusts a repeat is not off the table, recognizing all the pieces that need too fall in place to go back to back. Beyond the big game, we dive deep into the ups and downs of his rookie campaign, falling to the second round of draft and rebounding with the early-season growth that earned him Defensive Rookie of the Year buzz and how he battled adversity to find his confidence on the biggest stages. Relying on veteran leadership, Seattle's locker room bonded together on a mission to never let outside noise affect the team goal which created the NFL's No. 1 ranked defense, known as the "Dark side". He opens up about his bond with head coach Mike Macdonald and what he had to do to soak in all of the football knowledge to adapt to X & O schemes that elevated his play. Nick also opens up about the bond with Sam Darnold, whose own redemption arc culminated in a sturdy Super Bowl performance — proving that heart and leadership can outweigh the critics. The guys reflect on resilience, leadership, and the lessons learned in a season that none of his team will ever forget. And we couldn't not ask about the women in his life, from his mom's viral interview Super Bowl week to Dawn Stalely wearing his jersey to his girlfriend, Raven Johnson's unconditional support...this conversation covers it all. From draft dreams to the Lombardi Trophy, this is the inside story of a rookie who refused to be ordinary and a team that rewrote the championship narrative. Pivot Family, please like, comment and subscribe- we love hearing and interacting with you all to see what resonates with you most! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“There's something sort of romantic about losing everything and going back to zero.” Garry Vee Continuing to champion a winning mindset after Super Bowl week, We sit down with serial entrepreneur, investor, cultural icon and friend of The Pivot Gary Vaynerchuk, better known to the world as Gary Vee. From immigrating to the U.S. as a kid and transforming his family’s liquor store into a multimillion-dollar business, to building VaynerMedia and becoming one of the most influential voices in entrepreneurship, Gary’s journey is all about betting on yourself and embracing the long game. Gary dives right in on the do's and don'ts of navigating everyday life, offering research and guidance whether you are someone who feels stuck, looking for the next thing or experiencing self-doubt, he shares something for everyone in this conversation by making complex ideas seem relatable and breaking down what's hold someone back. He breaks down the fears associated with AI and how, electricity, something we couldn't live without now, was once feared that same way. Gary gets real about taking chances before you’re ready, the fears that still drive him, and why self-awareness is the ultimate competitive advantage. He breaks down what most people get wrong about success, money, and happiness, and why patience, humility, and execution matter more than hype. The conversation also dives into emerging business and media trends, where attention is really going in 2026, and how creators, athletes, and entrepreneurs can stay ahead without burning out. Plus, Gary connects his passion for sports to leadership, ownership, and legacy—and explains why athletes are perfectly positioned to dominate the business world if they play it right. This is a masterclass in mindset, risk, and evolution from someone who’s lived every chapter and has a willingness to share information hoping to make an impact. Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I take the blame on defense, we thought we earned it but it was a young mindset.” Jared Verse We love sports because it's all about the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat, but for the athletes who play the game, it's all the moments in between that truly impact one's journey and mindset. Heading into Super Bowl weekend,  we look ahead to the big game with one of the most dominant young players in the NFL, LA Rams Jared Verse — the 2024 Defensive Rookie of the Year and one of the league's most disruptive young edge rushers. Jared joins The Pivot Podcast for a deep-dive into the chess match called professional football. The young star breaks down how film study, technique, and a relentless motor have helped him terrorize NFL quarterbacks, rack up pressures and tackles for loss, and evolve into a true game-changer for the Rams’ defense.  We get into LA's last two season endings in heartbreak loss, going inside the mindset after his team's NFC Championship loss in Seattle as Jared opens up in a reflective and humbling tone about what went wrong, who's to blame and how to recover mentally from the disappointment. He talks about his MVP quarterback Matthew Stafford, leadership from Sean McVay and special advice from Aaron Donald that has changed his approach to the game. In opening up about this loss that still stings, and how this feeling will fuel his offseason preparation — from extra hours in the lab to the mindset tweaks that separate good defenders from great ones. Plus, he shares what it’s like to learn from and compete with the best: the time he challenged Aaron Donald to a brutal one-on-one workout, came out the other side exhausted but inspired, and walked away with lessons on grit, fourth-quarter toughness, and the habits of elite defenders.  Jared also talks about the defensive stars he studies, the moves and counters he’s adding to his repertoire, and how guys like Donald, Myles Garrett, Micah Parsons, TJ Watt and others helped shape his approach — even facing San Fran's Trent Williams on his welcome to the NFL moment and how it woke him up to another level. He also shares his thoughts on his former college teammate Keon Coleman's struggles in Buffalo and what he thinks will come of it all. From film breakdowns to mental insight to edge rushing philosophy, teammate dynamics, and how the greats build a game against the very best — this is one of the most personal, candid reflections of a top athlete opening up on the highs and lows of playing sports at an elite level. Pivot Family, thank you for rocking with us, we love hearing from you, please hit subscribe, like, and comment! Keep this thing rolling! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Super Bowl week is about the culmination of blood, sweat and tears with the best teams going at it and crowning a new NFL champion. This episode is a conversation with someone who knows a lot about what it takes to be at the top of a sport and the will to win at all costs...retiring with a perfect 42-0 boxing record, Terrance "Bud" Crawford joins The Pivot for a powerful, reflective conversation about legacy, purpose, and what comes next. Without hesitation, Bud tells Ryan that fight night between two top boxers is bigger and more pressure than the Super Bowl and explains why he sees it as such. Describing his journey in detail and how he defied the odds as a kid from the streets of Omaha to the mountaintop of boxing 🥊 Bud opens up about his decision to step away from the ring, revisiting a career defined by record-breaking fights, historic championships, and defying the odds to become an undisputed world champion. He speaks with honesty how he didn't have all the same opportunities as the big names in the sport yet he prevailed as the best to do it in his era. He is the first male in the modern four-belt era to become an undisputed world champion in three different weight divisions and highly regarded as one of the top pound-for-pound fighters in the history of the sport- with his win over Canelo Álvarez widely seen as a defining achievement and one of boxing’s signature performances. Bud breaks down the mindset that carried him through adversity, the moments that shaped him as a fighter, and the pride he takes in representing his city and his people at the highest level. Beyond the belts and accolades, Bud talks fatherhood, growth, and why family has always been his true north. He also shares why he believes boxing is in good hands, offering respect and insight on the next generation ready to carry the sport forward. Channing asks if there is a number that could get him to return to the ring, and his answer is surprising but also extremely telling of who he is as a man. This conversation is an exploration of greatness, resilience, and a life built with intention showing that anything is possible. Whether you’re a boxing diehard or a fan of real stories about perseverance and purpose, this is an episode you don’t want to miss. Pivot Family, don't forget to comment, like and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pivot Family! Your favorite trio is back talking all of sports' big stories and breaking down the hottest headlines. Super Bowl week is finally set with the Seattle Seahawks and New England Patriots back in the big dance! But that wasn't the biggest NFL news of the week, as a leak from Canton reveals Bill Belichick did not make the Hall of Fame as a first ballot and we talk about the fall out, what this means for Belichick and what it says about those involved in the process, is it personal? The long standing Pro Bowl has always been a way to recognize the league's elite, but has it become a popularity contest more than a football honor? The guys discuss after the sports world reacts to Shedeur Sanders being named as one of the AFC quarterbacks, which Fred raises the question, how did he get ahead of Trevor Lawrence who was a MVP finalist? The league's eight head coaching vacancies are almost all filled and another year of no minority hirings, it's a process of hiring the best person for the job and we go in depth about Ryan being seen as a strong candidate to lead a team. College football is changing more and more as teams are putting in place a fine policy for missing practices and team events, we talk about how Deion Sanders implemented this system at Colorado and why the NCAA landscape has become so cloudy. We also talk about Tracy Morgan's recent encounter with a person he once knew who used to bully him as a kid, the guys share their experiences and how even as adults, it's hard to process sometimes. Pivot Family don't forget to comment, like and subscribe to stay up to date on all our latest conversations, and we really do love hearing from you, keep letting us know what you think! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I’m going to be the best basketball player I can ever be and I’m also going to be the best father that I can ever be.” Boston Celtics superstar Jayson Tatum sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for a raw, wide-ranging conversation that goes far beyond the headlines and boxscore. Tatum opens up about battling through injury, the moment he nearly walked away from the game, and the mental toll that comes with carrying expectations at the highest level. Recently returning to the court for rehab and light work, the 6x time NBA All Star and World Champion opens up on how the last year has been the toughest in his life, admitting self-doubt, questioning his will to heal and contemplating his return this season. Winning a title with Celtics etched his name in Boston royalty, although the high expectations still move him to chase the legends who've come before him while his focus remains on getting back to a championship. Jayson was upfront about working through past growing pains with Jaylen Brown, the pressures of being a face of the NBA and the three words Joe Mazzulla whispered to him during the biggest moments of their Championship run. A self-proclaimed mama's boy, he shares a deep understanding of sacrifice, hard work and how growing up with little motivated him being raised by a single mom but candidly he opens up on why he values the relationship with his father differently but still a bond he appreciates. With the anniversary of Kobe Bryant's passing, Jayson Tatum reveals how he was inspired by the icon and modeled his life based on certain experiences and explains why he is completely appalled with anyone questioning Kobe's contributions to the game. He reflects on representing Team USA in 2024 on the Olympic stage, what that experience taught him, his true in-the-moment feelings with Steve Kerr and how it reshaped his perspective as a leader but also as a man. From embracing the weight of Boston’s historic legacy to navigating fatherhood while still chasing greatness, Tatum shares how his humble beginnings continue to ground him. Honest, reflective, and powerful—this is Jayson Tatum like you’ve never heard him before. Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we value hearing from you and appreciate your support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“We are about proving ourselves right, not proving others wrong.” Marcus Jones  Super Bowl dreams are on the line. Before stepping onto the field for the AFC Championship, All-Pro Marcus Jones joins The Pivot Podcast for a raw, wide-ranging conversation about pressure, preparation, and purpose. Marcus breaks down what it really takes to perform when everything’s at stake—mentally, physically, and emotionally. From his journey to this moment, to the mindset he’s carrying into the biggest game of his career, nothing is off limits. He talks leadership, resilience, staying locked in through the noise, and what fuels him when the lights are brightest. Making history for the Patriots with an interception returned for a touchdown to help lead his team over the Houston Texans to land in the AFC championship, Marcus shares what it's like being underestimated as a defense, even calling out RC on his picks against them in a friendly banter egged on by Channing ofcourse! The guys talk about Cardi B's super fandom, Stefon Diggs' unique leadership qualities and how it's been building a team-first mentality under Coach Vrabel vs his rookie year lessons learned from Coach Belichick. Growing up in a military family that moved around, Marcus has had discipline at the core of everything he does as well as a family-first mentality, appreciating the sacrifices his father made for him and says becoming a young father himself, was pivotal, as he never wants to fail his son, who was recently diagnosed with Autism. This is more than football—it’s about belief, sacrifice, and showing up when it matters most. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button! We love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Money and Fame is loud, jail was quiet." Sebastian Telfair former NBA star No truer meaning of the word Pivot then the rise and fall of success, money and fame to hit rock bottom, accept the consequences and figure out how to move forward. In his first conversation since being released from prison, former NBA guard Sebastian Telfair joins The Pivot for a raw, honest, and long-awaited conversation. Once one of the most hyped prospects in basketball history, Sebastian made headlines as a teenager—gracing the cover of SLAM Magazine alongside LeBron James and becoming the symbol of New York City basketball before ever playing an NBA game. He opens up about the highs of making it to the league straight out of high school—and the lows that followed, including the choices that led to his time behind bars. Once celebrated for his basketball talent and condemned for his mistakes, Sebastian Telfair is now facing the hardest opponent of all: himself. A couple weeks after being out of jail, Sebastian addresses the legal trouble that led to his sentence, taking full responsibility for his actions and reflecting on the consequences that changed his life. Being at Fort Dix Federal Correctional Institution, same place Sean Combs (P Diddy) is serving his time, he chats about thier encounter and lessons that come with freedom. Now on the other side, he shares what prison taught him, how it reshaped his perspective, and what redemption, growth, and purpose look like today. Once a teenage phenom turned NBA pro, Sebastian Telfair’s story is a reminder that talent opens doors—but choices decide the outcome. Drafted straight out of high school, Telfair opens up about the pressure that came with early fame, the expectations he carried, and why his NBA career never fully reached the heights many predicted. He speaks candidly about decisions on and off the court, navigating the league at a young age, and how distractions, environment, and accountability played a role in his journey. This is more than a basketball story—it’s a conversation about hype, hardship, accountability, and what it really means to pivot when life forces you to. Real talk. Real lessons. Real growth. You don’t want to miss this one. Pivot Family, please like, subscribe and comment, we love hearing from you and your support keeps us going! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Chicago is a gritty city, we need intensity like that from Caleb and Ben Johnson.” Mojo Brookzz Chicago comedian In a special episode of football and comedy, The Pivot Podcast welcomes Chicago comedian Mojo Brookzz a rising star known for his sharp wit, real-life storytelling, and unapologetic humor—plus an unwavering love for his hometown and the Chicago Bears. Mojo breaks down his journey from grinding on Chicago stages to his rapid rise in comedy, sharing what it really takes to build momentum, stay authentic, and keep betting on yourself. The conversation goes beyond comedy as Mojo talks being a die-hard Bears fan, the excitement around the team’s current success, and what it means to finally see Chicago football trending in the right direction. He shares why the city is rallying behind Quarterback Caleb Williams and head coach Ben Johnson, how their mentality and execution has ignited not just the fanbase but the city. He also shouts out the Chicago greats who influenced his mindset and creativity, from legendary athletes to hometown icons who set the standard for excellence. Mojo opens up about navigating fame, staying grounded, and pivoting through life with humor, loyalty, and purpose. The conversation dives into the realities of the comedy grind, navigating setbacks, staying true to your voice, and how Chicago’s culture helped shape Mojo’s comedic perspective. We even explore the impact of family support, especially a father's acceptance and how that can be the one defining factor in the course of life. This is an episode about betting on yourself, finding your lane, and pivoting through life with humor and purpose. Pivot Family, please comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you and your support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Self Motivation- If you want different for yourself, you gotta do different for yourself. If I can’t control anything else in this world, I can control my ways and my actions, so I’ll start there.” Method Man Hip-hop icon, actor, and cultural legend Method Man joins The Pivot for a powerful conversation that goes beyond music and making movies. From his rise as a founding member of the Wu-Tang Clan to building longevity across music, film, and television, Method Man breaks down the mindset, discipline, and pivots that shaped his journey. He opens up about navigating fame, protecting his craft, fatherhood, and the lessons learned from setbacks and success. With trademark authenticity and wisdom, Meth delivers gems on evolution, ownership, and staying true to yourself while adapting to change. He lets us in on some never-heard-before stories from studio sessions with Mary J, to bond with Snoop to final words with Tupac to relationship with Biggie...Method Man shares his experiences from a decorated life to the dark parts we didn't see. This episode is raw, reflective, and inspiring — a masterclass on growth, resilience, and redefining legacy. You don’t want to miss this one Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love to hear from ya! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on The Pivot Podcast, we’re joined by one of the NFL’s most dominant edge rushers — Brian Burns. Coming off a record-breaking season with the New York Giants, where he racked up 16.5 sacks — second most in the NFL behind Myles Garrett, Brian opens up about the defining moments of his career and the evolution of his game. He reflects on leaving the Carolina Panthers, what that transition meant personally and professionally, and how embracing change pushed him to another level. Brian opens up on his personal experience on the NFL being a business and no matter how many times you hear it, you don't truly know until you've gone through it and the impact of leaving a city he thought would be his career-home. Despite a record-setting year for Burns, the team success of Giants is something that weighs on him and is committed to turning his focus to building off the positives and has high hopes for what a new coach will add to the organization. From key veteran leadership to the electric play of quarterback Jaxon Dart, Brian believes New York's future is bright because of Dart's confidence, the skill level of offensive weapons, and young bulls like Adbul Carter being a fierce competitor with strong years ahead. Brian also gets candid about family, the role they’ve played in keeping him grounded, and how perspective off the field fuels excellence on it. From navigating expectations in a new city to discussing the future of the Giants, leadership, and legacy, this conversation goes far beyond stats and highlights. And of course, the guys have some laughs, as Channing knows Brian from the time he was a young boy living in south Florida as they exchange some stories of how Brian remembers Channing from back then haha. And that spirited love continues to now as Channing gets on him about having grown man hobbies vs the anime collection he boasts. This is an honest, insightful look into the mindset of an elite competitor — one who understands that growth, sacrifice, and purpose are just as important as production. Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you and appreciate the support always! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Chasing greatness is grieving the person you once were.” Tyriq Withers Ryan, Channing and Fred chop it up with Tyriq Withers, a rising actor making his mark in Hollywood, for an honest conversation about perseverance, processing grief, risk taking and how his journey is proof that purpose doesn’t always follow a straight line and what's meant to be will always be. The conversation starts off with a fun story of Tyriq, a Jacksonville native, sharing how his childhood idol was a FAMILIAR guest speaker he had as a kid in elementary school... one guess? And you already know Chan and RC had a field day with the age jokes of Freddy T being that guy 20+ years ago! A die-hard Jaguars fan excited for the playoffs, he also opens up on the special meaning behind wearing a custom made "144" Shedeur Sanders jersey and how the bible verse he had imprinted on the sleeve changed his thought process. Yes, his love of sports starts long ago and before stepping in front of the camera, Tyriq's first love was football as he walked on to Florida State where he was part of the Seminole team (along with Dalvin Cook and Derwin James) that won an Orange Bowl in 2016. Ball was his life and taught him discipline, resilience, and what it takes to perform under pressure. That foundation helped fuel his transition into acting, where he’s now making waves starring in the upcoming film Him, along with roles in other notable projects. Tyriq breaks down his journey into acting, the sacrifices it took to chase his passion, and the mental resilience required to survive an industry built on rejection and uncertainty. From navigating auditions and staying grounded to defining success on his own terms, he shares what it really means to pivot when the path isn’t guaranteed. He talks about what it was like working with Donald Glover, shares who is on-screen inspiration is and the full circle experience of learning from Marlon Wayans, who he admired growing up and then became a big brother to him during the filming of Him. But Marlon wasn't just an on-screen mentor, he also helped Tyriq navigate life during one of the darkest and difficult times after he lost his older brother unexpectedly and was met with a new wave of grief and responsibility he didn't know existed. Emotional and honest, Tyriq shares how he dealt with it while still being able to pursue his dreams and balance the success with managing deep pain. Pivoting from sports to Hollywood to betting on himself in an industry built on rejection, this episode takes a deep dive on staying grounded while navigating new levels of visibility and expectation. From embracing discomfort to redefining success beyond the scoreboard, this conversation goes deeper than credits and highlights. It’s a powerful discussion about identity, faith, work ethic, and trusting the process — on and off the field. Pivot Family, let us know what you think of this inspiring episode as we start the new year, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Don't confuse sacrifice and discipline with suffering." Ryan Clark Where did the time go? 2025 is wrapping up as we get ready to embrace the new endeavors, challenges and our biggest pivots that lie ahead in 2026! Ryan, Channing and Fred close out the year reflecting on the past 12 months of sports' biggest stories, headlines that dominated our feeds and personal milestones we embraced. We take account of our own self growth, missteps and ways we want to be better going forward knowing that perfection is an illusion, discipline and sacrifice are required for success and we take deep dive into the chaotic sports world. FBI takes on sports gambling, Luka trade to Dallas, Micah Parsons to Green Bay, Kansas City misses post season, Travis Kelce, Shedeur Sanders frenzy and the fall of Sean Diddy Combs...2025 had it's share of the unexpected and we discuss the impact of it all while the guys keep it real on the current state of the NFL. Channing says how the AFC North isn't what it used to be, Ryan says DK Metcalf incident could cost the Steelers their season and Fred weighs in on the possible end of the Chiefs dynasty. Pivoting to family, we talk about the vulnerable sides of parenting, from walking the line between wanting the best for our kids to pushing them too hard and how in the end happiness is the only true measure of how it turns out. Avoiding to set goals isn't always a bad thing while giving ourselves grace to make mistakes is how we've learned best. We also have a little fun talking about some viral fun scenarios and how we would respond to a wife's last wishes of a "casket pass". Pivot Family thank you for all the support, all the comments, the likes and follows- being on this journey with us means the world and we look forward to bringing more impactful conversations, stories and authentic content in 2026- Happy New Year, may it be filled with good health, family, memories and happiness. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I was at the highest point of my career, signed a max contract, all NBA team, top 3 player in East to boom, hit rock bottom. And I got through it. Life isn’t going to be easy, there’s a lot of adversity and challenges, just don’t quit.” John Wall In one of the most authentic and powerful conversations of the year, John Wall opens up on pulling himself out of a dark place and the moment he chose life and light over a frightening alternative. He speaks from the heart as he shares his journey with Ryan, Fred and Channing, hoping to show people who struggle with mental health, there is always a way out. The conversation is raw, honest, and formidable as we talk everything from basketball to brotherhood to parenting to resilience to grief and manage to have lots of laughs throughout. From being the No. 1 overall pick to battling injuries, criticism, and personal loss, John talks the highs and lows of his journey in the league. He reflects on what the game has taught him about loyalty, mental toughness, and finding purpose beyond the spotlight. This episode goes deeper than stats and headlines—touching on growth, accountability, legacy, and what it really takes to keep pushing forward when the world counts you out. He explains his real reason behind retirement and responds to rumors, gives his perspective on today's game and highlights the players who he respects in NBA today. Full of Kentucky Wildcat pride, John describes the differences between young athletes of now and his era, NIL and what the future of college basketball looks like. In a more personal moment, John opens up about his mental health journey, the unseen battles he faced while navigating injuries and public scrutiny, and how losing his mother—his biggest supporter and anchor—changed his life forever. With vulnerability and strength, he shares how grief reshaped his perspective on basketball, manhood, and purpose. Wall also talks about his next chapter, including his new role with Amazon Prime, stepping into media and storytelling while redefining what success looks like beyond the court. With the guys navigating the conversation, the episode goes deep, diving into healing, identity, and learning to evolve when life forces a pivot. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button! We love hearing from you and wish all of you a safe and happy holiday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Three-man weave before the holidays as Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down to talk about all that’s been going on after a rollercoaster of a week in sports and social media from the Sherrone Moore news to the "we didn't see this coming" NFL moments to Kai Cenat's surprise message to offering a glimmer of hope this holiday season. The unfortunate season-ending injuries to the NFL’s top offensive player and defensive player bummed the sports world and now has changed the landscape of the league, with no Patrick Mahomes or Kansas City Chiefs in the post season, and the Packers loss of Micah Parsons altering their chance to play deep into January. The polarizing play by play of Shedeur Sanders is still captivating everyone whether you are completely against him or 100% with him, the debate is never ending. Who doesn't love Phillip Rivers? But the future Hall of Famer was 4 years removed from the game before returning to help the Colts save their season and Ryan has one perspective on his return while Channing has another. Sherrone Moore situation shook college sports but also affected the black community as the guys dive into the further implications from one's choices affecting a much larger group. Pivot Family! Let us know what you think, we love hearing from ya, so like, comment and hit the subscribe button! Appreciate you all! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Trying to change that perception has been the most challenging thing post career…It was K-Mart the player and Kenyon the person. I didn’t let a lot of people know Kenyon the person.” Kenyon Martin Sr The former NBA All-Star, No. 1 overall pick, and one of the most relentless competitors of his era, Kenyon Martin Sr. sits down with The Pivot Podcast for a powerful, unfiltered conversation about basketball, family, and the evolution of manhood. From his rise out of Dallas to leading the New Jersey Nets to back-to-back NBA Finals, Kenyon reflects on the edge and intensity that defined his playing career—and how that same fire often shaped how he was perceived. Now, with greater perspective, he opens up about the difference between being seen as a player versus being understood as a man. He opens up about the power of his voice now, how he strives to speak from experience and how his biggest post-career challenge is being able to show the world the difference from K-Mart the player vs Kenyon the person.... The conversation takes on new depth as Kenyon discusses watching his son, Kenyon Martin Jr., carve out his own NBA journey. He speaks candidly about fatherhood, pride, restraint, and the responsibility of letting your child become their own person while still standing firm in loyalty and protection as a parent. Beyond the game, Kenyon shares lessons on accountability, family-first values, standing on principle, and how growth sometimes requires rewriting narratives—both public and personal. This episode is about legacy, love, and learning when to pivot without losing who you are. 🎙️ Raw. Reflective. Real. Kenyon Martin Sr.—beyond the jersey. Pivot Family, let us know what you think, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we appreciate you sticking with us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“You gotta always believe. When you get knocked down off your feet, there’s just something that lights your fire and makes you keep getting up and fighting, just to keep going because you have a purpose.” Malcolm Butler 2x Super Bowl Champion  In this special episode of The Pivot Podcast live from Disney's Animal Kingdom, Malcolm Butler joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for a deeply personal and behind-the-scenes story leading up to one of the most iconic moments in NFL history. Butler relives his “magical” Super Bowl XLIX interception vs Russell Wilson—the split-second decision that changed his life, secured the Patriots’ championship, and delivered him sports' famous words- "Im going to Disney World." Malcolm opens up about what it was like to go from undrafted rookie to national hero overnight, from working at Popeyes to signing with the Patriots to playing for Bill Belichick, He shares the mindset he developed on and off the field and explains how one can never truly being prepared for a singular moment but can always being ready to compete. He reveals life lessons from Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Gronk and Danny Amendola that helped shape the man he is today. Although his storied NFL career started magical and yielded him two Super Bowl rings, Malcolm shares the hard times and reveals the emotions behind sitting out vs the Patriots loss to Eagles in SBLII and how the pain truly affected him. From the locker room interactions to the surreal whirlwind of fame, Malcolm shares powerful insights on trust, readiness, and believing in yourself when the world doubts you. Now in his post NFL life, Malcolm is passing on his experiences sharing that coaching high school football and being a father prove to be the most rewarding aspect of his life. Authentic, inspiring, and full of raw reflection—this conversation shows a side of Malcolm Butler you’ve never heard before. Tap in as The Pivot takes you right into the heart of the magic that makes us all believe anything worth having and working for is possible. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button. Special thank you to our partners and friends at Disney World, Check out special offers and more information about visiting Walt Disney World here: http://di.sn/60037CGsf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I feel like no one believes in me and that’s my approach. I got the underdog mentality and that’s what I’ll have all my life.” Diego Pavia We headed to Nashville to sit with one of sports' biggest breakout stars who's improbable journey has landed him in the national spotlight and on this episode of The Pivot Podcast, we learn more about one of the most electrifying and unlikely stars in college football today—Diego Pavia. Once an undersized and overlooked kid grinding his way through JUCO ball, Pavia’s journey to the national spotlight is nothing short of remarkable as he just etched himself a part of history being named a 2025 Heisman Finalist. He opens up about how he went from fighting for reps at a junior college to becoming the quarterback who completely transformed the culture at Vanderbilt, leading the Commodores to relevance in the SEC and putting the program back on the map. Despite a season worthy of national recognition—and even securing a spot as a Heisman Trophy finalist—Pavia and Vandy were hit with a controversial College Football Playoff snub that sent shockwaves through the sport. Diego talks candidly about the fire that keeps him going, tracing it back to his upbringing, the sacrifices made by his mom, and the constant motivation he draws from his brother. It’s a story of grit, doubt, resilience, and belief—proof that heart can take you where pedigree can’t. From JUCO fields to SEC stadiums, from being overlooked to becoming a household name, Diego Pavia’s rise is one of the most compelling stories in college football—and he shares it all right here on The Pivot. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button- we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“If you get on cruise control and let everything start festering, it’s gonna find a way to get out somehow…everybody makes mistakes, I made one and I apologized for it and moved on, and I’m better for it now.” Desmond Bane In one of the most authentic and real conversations we've had on The Pivot Podcast, Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder sit with Orlando Magic star Desmond Bane — a player whose journey is as powerful as his jump shot and deep roots that have grounded him since day one. With humility at his core in all he does, Bane's talents have often been overshadowed by his quiet demeanor but this off season his value was at the forefront, when Orlando traded for the young star solidifying his place as one of the top players in the NBA. Bane opens up about the early adversity that fueled his rise, the overlooked beginnings that pushed him to grind harder than the next guy, and the deep bond he built with Ja Morant in Memphis — a brotherhood formed through shared battles, growth, and the pressures of leading a young franchise. Now, after a blockbuster trade to Orlando, Bane talks candidly about embracing a new chapter and the responsibility of being a cornerstone for a young Magic squad. He opens up on how it took a little while trying to find his place in a new arena and gives context to the uncharacteristic game ejection early on, and shares what one thing clicked that has fueled his explosive run, including his back-to-back 37-point performances that set the tone for what’s becoming a breakout year in his new uniform and has his team 4-0 in the NBA Cup. Raised by his grandparents in the tight-knit community of Richmond, Indiana, Bane reflects on how small-town values, discipline, and love shaped the competitor and man he is today. It wasn't an easy path and the young star reveals his personal anxiety battles and how he redefined his path. He talks about the pain of loss and how his wife and kids helped him redefine purpose after grieving from so much change. And in a rare pivotal moment on the show, Desmond flips the conversation to Ryan, Channing and Fred, asking them how life is for them and how they have handled certain changes....truly a powerful part of the episode. Authentic, honest, and inspiring, this conversation captures Desmond Bane at a pivotal moment — reflecting on where he came from, honoring the people who raised him, and stepping boldly into the player he’s proving he can be. Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Some of the best decisions I’ve made in my life have been rooted in faith where I couldn’t give a guarantee but I had faith and some of the worst decisions I’ve made in my life were rooted in fear.” Governor Wes Moore In this inspiring and wide-ranging conversation, Maryland Governor Wes Moore joins The Pivot Podcast to discuss leadership, purpose, and the personal journey that shaped his historic path to the governor’s office. Moore opens up to Ryan, Channing and Fred about his upbringing, his time in the military, and the pivotal moments that pushed him toward public service. He reflects on the challenges of leading a state during times of rapid change, the responsibilities of being Maryland’s first Black governor, and his commitment to expanding opportunity for all communities. Going in-depth, Moore shares the story behind writing his best-selling novel shaped how he views the world, based on the experience of 2 men with the same name who lived two different fates: one ended up doing life in prison while the other was a road scholar who became Governor. A journey rooted in faith not fear, Moore shares the key choices he made over his lifetime to give him the courage and strength to emphasize service over self. Throughout the episode, Moore’s trademark energy and clarity shine as he talks about balancing ambition with humility, the importance of mentorship, and what it means to create lasting impact. He shares his inspiring love story with wife Dawn, raising a family in the public eye while emphasizing the values that built their marriage, the support they’ve given each other through demanding careers, and the joy and purpose he finds in being a husband and father. And of course we talk football! From Maryland sports to the Baltimore Ravens to the AFC North to the true spirit and rivalry of the Army Navy game. Whether you’re interested in politics, personal growth, or stories of resilience, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at one of the country’s most dynamic political leaders. Pivot Family, tap in, like, hit subscribe and comment, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“The most dangerous person is one who truly believes in himself..." Darren Woodson 3x Super Bowl Champion It's Thanksgiving week and we have a lot to be grateful for Pivot Family and can't celebrate this holiday without talking about gratitude, family and of course football. And when we talk Thanksgiving football- we have to talk Dallas Cowboys. In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Cowboys star Darren Woodson joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for a raw, unfiltered conversation that dives deep into the dynasty years in Dallas and the life lessons that shaped him on and off the field. Known as one of the toughest safeties to ever play the game, Woodson pulls back the curtain on what it was really like lining up alongside legends like Deion Sanders, Larry Allen, Michael Irvin. and Troy Aikman during one of the most iconic eras in NFL history. Woodson brings the locker room to life with stories of competing with Irvin’s relentless intensity, Aikman’s leadership standard, Deion’s unmatched swagger, and the brotherhood that held the team together through championship runs. He also shares his firsthand perspective on the infamous Leon Lett Thanksgiving game moment, revealing how it felt on the field, how the team reacted, and why that play became one of the most unforgettable—and teachable—moments in Cowboys history but also a defining moment of who Jimmy Johnson is not just as a coach but a man. He speaks candidly of Jerry Jones and shares insight that we don't see as we often criticize and publicize the way he has built one of the most profound sports organizations. Beyond the highlights and headlines, Woodson opens up about identity, transitions, fatherhood, and building a purpose-driven life after football. From the mental toughness learned on the gridiron to the vulnerability required in the next chapters of his life, this episode shows Darren Woodson as more than a three-time Super Bowl champion—he’s a leader still evolving. Authentic, emotional, and full of championship-level storytelling, this conversation is a must-listen for fans of the game and anyone striving to redefine themselves beyond their greatest successes. It’s a masterclass in resilience and reinvention from one of the league’s all-time great competitors. Have a safe and happy holiday season from our Pivot family to yours, please take a moment to like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we are extremely grateful for your support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I think you have to have a big ego in business and in sports but I use mine to want to protect myself from failure. Ego makes me not want to fail, it’s a motivator, my ego doesn’t want me to be laughed at or labeled a failure.” Zak Brown CEO of McLaren Racing The 2025 F1 season is winding down with three races left to go and McLaren has already won its 2nd Consecutive Constructors’ Championship with the chance for their drivers to finish 1st and 2nd. At the helm of all this success is CEO Zak Brown, a high school dropout from California that pursued his passion for motor sports and turned around McLaren Racing.  On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, hosts Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder sit down with  Zak Brown for an unfiltered conversation on leadership, risk-taking, and the relentless pursuit of speed—both on and off the track. Zak pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to transform one of the most iconic organizations in motorsport, from rebuilding McLaren’s Formula 1 program to cultivating a culture where innovation thrives, no blame is placed and a team first mantra. He talks candidly about navigating high-pressure decisions, the realities of competing at the sport’s highest level, and how he balances business strategy with his pure passion for racing. The conversation amps up as Zak talks about Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri’s fierce but healthy internal rivalry, explaining how their push to beat each other is exactly what drives the team closer to the front of the grid. With only a few races left, McLaren is eyeing a 1st, 2nd finish for the 2025 season, hoping to prove doubters wrong with a drama-free relationship between his two drivers that sit atop the sport- a no favoritism, no fighting approach. From the dynamics inside the garage to the strategic vision for the future, Zak gives rare insight into what it takes to manage two hungry, elite-level drivers chasing the same trophy. Zak dives into the inspiration behind his new book, sharing the lessons, setbacks, and bold decisions that shaped his journey from young racing enthusiast to the executive steering one of motorsport’s most iconic teams. He reveals the mindset shifts that fueled McLaren’s resurgence and why embracing risk is often the only real path forward. From bold driver signings to the future of electric racing and what winning means in today’s F1 landscape, this episode offers a rare look at the mindset of a global sports executive who isn’t afraid to bet big. Whether you're a Formula 1 fanatic, a business leader, or someone inspired by reinvention, Zak Brown’s journey shows exactly what it means to pivot with conviction. Pivot Family, don't forget too comment, like and hit subscribe! A special thanks to our partners at Jack Daniels for sponsoring this conversation and inviting us to be apart of their F1 partnership with McLaren, Las Vegas has been exciting and we wish the best of luck to Lando and Oscar down the finish! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I’m at peace with who I am. I am extremely comfortable in my own skin, I am extremely comfortable with the consequences of my life…I’m not chasing anything or trying to stay relevant, I’m just being myself.” Steve Smith Sr. In this powerful and unfiltered episode of The Pivot Podcast, former NFL star Steve Smith Sr. sits down with Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor for a raw, emotional, and brutally honest conversation about the journey that shaped him and discovering peace from ultimate pain. Known for his relentless competitive fire and fearless attitude on the field, Steve opens up about the battles no one saw—his upbringing, the chips on his shoulder, and the emotional scars that fueled his greatness. From rising as an undersized third-round pick to becoming one of the most explosive receivers in NFL history, Steve breaks down the mentality that kept him fighting long after others would have quit. He discusses his struggles with anger, the importance of mental health, and how he learned to redefine manhood, fatherhood, and purpose beyond the game. The conversation covers accountability, discovering true self, the pressure of public life, and the consequences of actions off the field. Steve addresses the explosive social media allegations that surfaced in February 2025, when a man publicly accused him of having an affair with his wife. In a fury, personal messages and voice calls were released leading to swift and strenuous fallout. Through it all, Steve has largely remained silent in public — but he breaks that silence with the guys as he unpacks the emotional weight of the accusations, his reaction when confronted, embarrassment and how this controversy affected his family and ultimately his own marriage. From the highs of football royalty to the lows of fame and fallout, this conversation gives an inside look at a rock bottom moments to rebuilding from the ground up. Insightful, vulnerable, and at times hilarious, this episode showcases the side of Steve Smith Sr. fans rarely see. It’s a conversation about growth, accountability, and the power of owning your story. Whether you’re a football fan or simply someone navigating your own journey, Steve’s words will hit home. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, subscribe and comment, we love hearing from you! Thanks to Chomps for sponsoring this convo: Go to⁠ https://chomps.com/PIVOT or use code PIVOT to get 15% off your Chomps order and free shipping! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Manufacturing joy is exhausting..."Ryan Clark November is Men's Health Awareness month and a good opportunity for us to check in with each other, check in with our loved ones and have tough conversations that generate awareness. Ryan, Channing and Fred discuss the recent passing of NFL player Marshawn Kneeland and how mental health doesn't discriminate from the rich, the successful or the ones who seem to have it all. And often, times are heavier, as people try to navigate everyday life with how they are supposed to be perceived vs how it really is. Each of the guys opens up and shares what they struggle with and the ways they try to seek help when going through tough times. We talk about the pressures and struggles of athletes in this time and get into the athlete owned platforms vs former athlete's who have platforms as the media landscape continues to change where more and more people respond directly as the source and the increasing need for people to respond to everything and anything. We have a little fun and get into it when a topic that Ryan and Fred find themselves on one side while Channing surprisingly is on the other side of it, making sense of a situation that RC and Fred can't even begin to comprehend- If you pass away, is it ok for your best friend to date or marry your spouse? We discuss! Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Money couldn’t motivate me because if you are led by money, your morals will be second….my morals come first and money is a bi-product of that. Fame is not fun.” KevOnStage We got a good one for you Pivot Family!! In this episode, Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down with comedian, entrepreneur, and creator Kevin Fredericks, known as KevOnStage, for an honest, hilarious, and heartfelt conversation about comedy, family, and carving your own lane in the entertainment industry. Kev opens up about his journey from church stages to digital stardom, the ups and downs of building a brand rooted in authenticity, and what it really means to balance faith, creativity, and business in today’s world. He opens up about his relationship with his wife, Melissa, together since they were teens and still going strong almost 30 years later. Not always easy to navigate, Kev shares how he had to learn to be vulnerable and not keep emotions bundled up, especially losing his brother unexpectedly and how he was able to release his grief during dark times while finding peace in humor and faith. Turning the worst heartache of loss into laughter may be one way of coping with tragedy, but Kev prides himself on his roots and sense of community, never wavering on his beliefs to chase money. From viral sketches to building his own streaming platform, Kev shares the lessons he’s learned along the way—and the moments that tested his belief in himself and how walking away from a steady job to move across country changed his trajectory. This conversation is filled with a lot of laughs, real talk, and wisdom on how to keep pivoting with purpose and always find a way to the other side. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, subscribe and comment- we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The Pivot, Ryan Clark sits down with Dr. William F. Tate IV — fresh off his transformative tenure as president at LSU — as he takes on a new challenge: leading Rutgers University. In this candid and inspiring conversation, Dr. Tate opens up about the journey from his groundbreaking role as LSU’s first African American president and first in SEC history to his vision for shaping the future of higher education in New Jersey. Ryan and President Tate get into the recent news around firing of LSU football coach, Brian Kelly (a hire Tate helped make) as well as long time Athletic Director Scott Woodward which led to the naming of Verge Ausberry as his predecessor to oversee Tiger's athletics. Tate openly shares what goes into the process, the success of all LSU sports and the importance of state universities working in harmony with state governors. They dive deep into leadership, legacy, and the lessons learned along the way — from navigating the pressures of big-time college athletics in the SEC to building a campus culture grounded in equity, excellence, and innovation. Ryan and Dr. Tate explore how faith, mentorship, and resilience have guided him, and what it means to “pivot” from success into significance. Whether you’re a fan of college sports, education, or powerful personal stories, this episode delivers wisdom, humor, and heart from one of higher education’s most dynamic leaders. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“My biggest Pivot is when I set out to do something and people doubt me. I like to have my back against the wall, that’s something that makes me.” Norega What happens when a rap legend trades the stage for the mic, and then turns that mic into a cultural movement? Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down with N.O.R.E.—once frontman of the Queens duo Capone‑N‑Noreaga, still a platinum-selling solo act, and now one of hip-hop’s most trusted voices behind the mic. We get to know N.O.R.E behind the fame and see him as the family man who loves being a grandpa, building wealth with his wife, who wakes up at 4am to embark on training for the NYC marathon, the guy in the group chat who is always motivating you and the friend who reaches out just to check in. In this wide-ranging conversation, we cover his journey through music, from his early days in Queens, going from jail to how meeting NAS changed his entire perspective on life to being one of the originals to boast Reggaeton to shifting into podcasting, co-founding the hit show Drink Champs with DJ EFN to becoming constant presence in hip hop culture. He takes the guys behind-the-scenes of hip-hop’s biggest names, the compliment from 50 Cent that impacted his legacy to Kanye West naming his first child after him to the unexpected collaborations to the “you wouldn’t believe” stories to his regret with Michael Jordan and how he's continuing to shape culture in a forever changing society. N.O.R.E shares how he developed a "whatever it takes" mentality to stay relevant as he's seen the culture he's helped build evolve three times over—on the mic, in the studio, in media. This episode is filled with raw energy, unfiltered truths, sharp humor, and the kind of storytelling only someone who’s lived it can deliver. Whether you grew up riding the “Super Thug” beat or you’re discovering N.O.R.E.’s impact for the first time, this episode is a bridge—between then & now, between rap and media, between the grind and the growth and where we are headed next. Tune in for a conversation that reminds us- a pivot isn’t just a change—it’s a choice and a continuous movement of evolution. And when you’ve seen it all, it’s what you do next that counts. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe, we love hearing from you Pivot Family. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"It's not the money, it's the rush you get from doing it." Channing Crowder Another fun-filled Friday episode with the fellas! With so much going on in the sports world right now, Ryan, Channing and Fred are back together breaking down all the top headlines and offering a different perspective on certain storylines that have everyone in a spin! From college football powerhouses becoming a laughing stock in the SEC to coaching changes across ball to the reality of sports betting to evolution of young athletes and their approach to the game and are we seeing the best athlete ever in sports right now with Shohei Otani in baseball? Sharing personal insight into the LSU and Florida football chaos, Ryan talks about his visit to Baton Rouge this week and his experience as a former Tiger while Fred and Channing chime in on the state of their alma mater Florida. The guys get into the future of sports at college level, what young people need from their leaders, how gambling is casting a cloud, money not being the root of what sports betting truly is and we even get into the play by play of a viral bout between our guy Cam Newton and an Alabama mascot!! Also chat about the world series and if Shohei Otani is the greatest athlete we are seeing right now and if not, who is? Of course we tap into some of the viral stories circulating social media from women having secret bank accounts to marriage advice to sick monkeys on the loose to our ongoing exercise and diet struggles as Fred is embracing his new healthy lifestyle, Ryan still fighting off snack demons and Channing thinks it's all crazy haha! Kick off your weekend with your favorite trio and don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like and comment- we love hearing from you Pivot Family! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“If you are questioning what I’m doing, then why not get it from the source?” When you've consistently done the work to be one of the best, it's not just the on court respect and praise that is earned, it's how your voice resonates beyond the game and no better example of this than Kevin Durant. In this powerful and candid conversation, NBA superstar Kevin Durant sits down with Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor to open up like never before. From his early days in Prince George’s County to becoming one of the most dynamic scorers in NBA history, KD reflects on his journey through every team he’s played for — the Thunder, Warriors, Nets, and Suns — and what each chapter taught him about loyalty, leadership, and growth. He opens up about overcoming devastating injuries, finding balance off the court, and the evolution of his mindset through success, criticism, and reinvention. He doesn't shy away from the questions surrounding his choices, his direct demeanor on social media and describes how he sees his iconic career vs. how it's viewed by the world. Revealing the darkness he experienced from his injuries to rediscovering the light from his time away from the game, KD's love and appreciation for the camaraderie, the intense competition and the high demands of the sport. He shares how special Olympic moments have been, how winning a championship doesn't define his legacy and lets us in on his bond with players around the NBA, especially Anthony Edwards, who he sees a lot of himself in and compares their relationship to a similar one he shared with the late Kobe Bryant. Durant also talks deeply about family, sharing heartfelt stories about the impact of his mother, Wanda, and his relationship with his father, Wayne, and how thier love and lessons shaped the man he is today. The conversation turns to business and life beyond basketball — from his ventures in media and tech with Boardroom to his vision for empowering the next generation of athletes and creators. And of course, KD keeps it real about being a lifelong Washington Commanders fan — the highs, lows, and that unwavering DMV pride. It’s vintage Durant: honest, thoughtful, competitive, and always evolving. Don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like and comment- we love hearing from you Pivot family! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"This show should be a microcosm of life." Channing Crowder  In case you didn’t know- We are saying it now...It's ok to have different opinions and it's ok to not always agree. It’s not about right and wrong, it’s about sharing perspectives, listening to others and bringing balance to conversation, it’s called life.  Back together for a much needed 3 man Pivot- Ryan, Channing and Fred are addressing the latest social media storm, tackling latest topics, responding to backlash, going beyond sports headlines and have deeper discussions on importance of loyalty in a world of uncertainty and falsity. NBA returns, and so did Michael Jordan. The expectations of greatness from the greatest are set high, and we talk about why. When is enough, enough? The LeBron cycle continues, Stephen A apologizes, finally a side of Russell Wilson we’ve never seen before, is this the Russ Channing’s been waiting on?  Growing pressure and demands on people and platforms is at an all-time high. Ryan gets into the responsibility that comes with having a voice and differentiating between our thoughts and opinions vs others who come on our show.  The guys reflect on another NFL life lost too soon with Doug Martin passing, the mental and physical health struggles after the game is over, struggles of letting go and realization that life is shorter than we think.  The AI craze and chatpgt running point on all our lives, how do we navigate the positives while sorting through the really bad that comes with this technology. Fred loves it, Ryan and Channing not so much. It’s creating a world of fake news and public figures to be alert and on edge, what’s the future hold?  Don't forget to comment, like and hit the subscribe button and stay up to date on guests and stories- we love hearing from you Pivot family, the good and the bad! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Winning and losing is very close together, it’s really how quickly we can pivot in order to take advantage of the next opportunity that comes along.” Boris Kodjoe In this eye-opening episode of The Pivot Podcast, actor, producer, and entrepreneur Boris Kodjoe sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred to talk about his incredible journey—from growing up biracial in Germany to moving to the US to his transition from tennis to Wall Street to building a decades-long career in Hollywood, while balancing fame with family. Boris opens up about the values that shaped him, the lessons he's learned through marriage with actress Nicole Ari Parker, and how he continues to pivot with purpose in an ever-changing industry. From fatherhood and fitness to cultural identity and career longevity, this is a deep, honest, and inspiring conversation with a man who’s done the work—on and off the screen. Boris explores what it means to live with intention: how growing up in a Ghanaian‑German family influenced his choices, how therapy saved him in the darkest times, and how his strained relationship with is own father paved the path to his real-life dream role of being a father. Embarking on twenty years of marriage, Boris reveals what the secret to not just staying together but staying happy in unity, defying odds in an industry that challenges relationships and the simple rules him and his wife follow to make it all work. We dive into his latest professional work and ventures — including his directorial debut, his role in the film starring alongside his wife and gives the guys the scoop of what it was like filming Real Husbands of Hollywood and what's next for that crew. He also shares how his business and philanthropic interests, including work with his foundation and Full Circle Africa, continue to push him to expand his horizons. Whether you’re juggling career changes, nurturing relationships, or looking for insight into re‑invention, this episode offers an honest look at one man’s evolving definition of success — and how staying true to self makes all the difference. Thanks to our friends at Chomps for sponsoring this conversation- Go to https://chomps.com/PIVOT or use code PIVOT to get 15% off your Chomps order and free shipping! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I’m willing to say what most people aren’t. I’m willing to do what most people aren’t. I’m willing to be in the storm, if that’s what it takes.” Stephen A. Smith On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Stephen A. Smith invites the guys to his home for a deeply personal and an unfiltered conversation discussing everything from sports to culture to parenting to politics while under fire for recent public clashes with LeBron James, Alexis Ohanian, and Rep. Jasmine Crockett. Ryan acknowledges all the heat surrounding Stephen A. and one by one, we go through it all, leaving no stone unturned to the whys, the hows and what happens from here while delving into the man Stephen A truly is behind the mic. Known for his bold takes and unapologetic style, Stephen A. opens up about the backlash, his growing interest in politics, and how he handles being a lightning rod for controversy. He shares the background into Lebron dislike, revealing how he and one of the greatest to ever play the game. ended up in such disdain. He shares insight into the recent Alexis Ohanian situation, doubling down on his comments but offering explanation of what he truly means at the core of his words. Stephen A. also talks about the criticism and being called out for comments on Jasmine Crockett, saying it wasn't an attack on black women but taking action to be apart of the solution not the problem. He also gets personal—discussing fatherhood as his two daughters have come into public eye lately and how it influences his choices on and off the air. He goes deep into his roots with the love and respect of his mother, who's voice still guides him today and the lessons he learned the hard way from his father's choices that have all led to shaping the man he is today. And of course we had to ask him about running for President, not only is he serious but Stephen A. shares why he believes he would win the office of Presidency and his why that drives him to take on politics in this dangerous era of hate and controversy. Buckle up, because this conversation covers it all and nothing is off limits! A special thanks to our partners at Jack Daniels for sponsoring this conversation and inviting us to be apart of their F1 partnership with McLaren, check us out in Austin, TX this wknd! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I couldn’t keep my air, I couldn’t make any loud sound and I thought my career was over.” Joe Buck In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, legendary sportscaster Joe Buck takes the hot seat for a candid and wide-ranging conversation with Ryan, Channing, and Fred that's raw, insightful, and hilarious at times that goes far beyond the broadcast booth. From calling Super Bowls and World Series to growing up in the shadow of broadcasting icon Jack Buck, Joe opens up about the pressure, the privilege, and the personal journey behind the mic. He shares untold stories from the booth, the toll of living under public scrutiny, and how he's forged his own identity in the world of sports media. No topic is off-limits — from navigating criticism to growing up idolizing his dad to balancing his own career with fatherhood to revealing his biggest pivot, when he thought his livelihood was over. Now headlining Monday Night Football as lead play by play announcer, Joe opens up about his iconic partnership with Troy Aikman, reflecting on their chemistry, friendship, and how they’ve navigated decades together as one of the most recognized duos in sports media. But behind the mic is a man with even more to say about life off the field — Joe gets real about finding love again, marrying Michelle Beisner, raising twin boys as an older dad, and learning how to prioritize family after years of grinding in a high-pressure industry. He speaks with so much pride about his older daughters and admits he's not great at coaching youth sports for his kids. In a moment of reflection and honesty, Joe reveals how he almost lost the ability to do what he loves and how terrifying not being able to speak truly was but finding the courage to power through, This episode is a masterclass in vulnerability, humor, and resilience from a man who’s called the biggest moments in sports — and is now living some of the biggest moments of his life. Like, follow and leave us your comments, we love hearing from you Pivot family. Get a free trial at https://www.shipstation.com/pivot. Thanks to ShipStation for partnering with us on this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I was lying to myself, the man in the mirror, I was lying to myself about where my heart was at, where my mind was at and that was hardest for me to deal with- if I could lie to myself of course I could lie to anybody.” -Odell Beckham Jr  Pivot Family- yes! A long awaited conversation comes at the right time as star Odell Beckham Jr joins The Pivot opening up to Ryan, Channing and Fred in an emotional, deeply personal and authentic conversation as Odell navigates his recent life reflections, his football journey, life of fame and where he goes from here. Undeniably one of the most famous athletes in the world, OBJ takes the guys through his football career, the highs, the lows, the stardom, the misconceptions, the regrets, the emotions, Super Bowl win and the one thing he has to face now before getting back to the game he loves most. Announcing his return to the NFL, he speaks about what is next, the team he wants to join, the coach he is forever indebted to and the big plays that lifted him to a larger than life persona. Getting into the celebrity circles, dating famously, high-profile friends, traveling the world, the guys talk about it all and in powerful break through, Odell lets his guard down and owns up to falling short in certain areas as a man, father, son, friend and teammate. He shares how becoming a father saved his life and how being able to do right by his son is the leading factor in why he has decided to change in certain areas of life. On a new path to right the wrongs and capitalize on the time he has now, his one focus is getting back on the football field, doing what he loves and not leave the game until it's on his terms. This conversation is one of the most powerful and honest we've had on The Pivot and we are extremely grateful, that Odell's vulnerability and willingness to share not only enlightened us but also teaches valuable lessons about accountability, growth and second chances. Don't forget to comment, like and subscribe to let us know what you think of each episode and to find out the most up to date happenings with The Pivot. We appreciate you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Whatever you try to stamp out or silence, ends up making that thing more popular.” Josh Johnson  On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, the hilarious and insightful Josh Johnson joins the guys to talk about his meteoric rise in the world of comedy. From viral stand-up clips and sold-out shows to his recent appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live and taking the reins as guest host on The Daily Show, Josh is proving that smart, vulnerable, and fearless comedy has a powerful place in today’s culture. In between all the laughs and funny banter, an unbelievable conversation happens with Ryan, Channing, Fred and Josh, as we understand more about his why. Known for blending sharp observations with deeply personal stories, Josh opens up about his journey from a small town in Louisiana to writing for The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon and becoming one of the most exciting voices in stand-up. He shares how he found his voice on stage, built his audience from the ground up through digital platforms, and turned moments of uncertainty into defining pivots in his career. In this raw and funny conversation, Josh talks about handling pressure in high-stakes moments, the creative grind behind his success, and why staying true to yourself is the ultimate flex. Whether you’re chasing a dream or reinventing yourself, Josh’s story is a masterclass in resilience, reinvention, and the power of comedy to connect and transform. Don’t miss this inspiring sit-down with one of comedy’s fastest-rising stars. Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"When you stand on what matters, everything is going to fall into place for you." Anthony Ramos One's journey is never a straight line and often the path we think we are destined for is paved with lots of ups and downs that lead us to where we belong. In this pivotal conversation, Ryan, Channing, and Fred sit down with multi‑talented actor, singer, and storyteller Anthony Ramos, to explore the twists, turns, and lessons that have shaped his journey. From humble beginnings of the New York streets to Broadway stages, from major film sets to music studios, Anthony shares how he’s navigated shifting expectations, risk, and growth — all while staying rooted in identity and purpose. He shares the impact that starring in Hamilton had on his life, the wisdom from Busta Rhymes, the excitement of Spike Lee, being on set with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, his most transformative role as well as his most challenging and gives a sneak peek at some big projects in the works. It's a reflective and honest conversation on the little moments and decisions that led him to chase his dream down an unlikely path overcoming poverty, sharing how the streets taught him to act and maneuver the challenges of a rough upbringing and why pursuing a passion is often out of reach for people like him. He talks to Ryan about dealing with race and cultural barriers, staying authentically himself while balancing Hollywood pressures, choosing to be on the right side of his beliefs, betting on himself and taking risks to chase the big roles. He talks to Channing how he mended the relationship with his father before he passed and explains to Fred saying no is hard but being loyal to his roots matters the most, which he explains turning down the chance to work with J.Lo. The guys get into what “pivoting” really means when your life is already in motion as this episode goes beyond the highlight reel to dig into the grind, the doubts, and the quiet breakthroughs. Whether you’re in creative fields or facing your own pivot point, Anthony’s transparency and mindset offer resonance and inspiration. Tap into The Pivot Podcast on YouTube, hit the subscribe button, like, comment and let us know what you think! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Just being able to see you are still just a person because being a superstar is like a mask, it’s like a representative, when you get in jail and fighting for your life, you realize this shit is all an act, it’s all just a mask.”  Young Thug In one of the most raw and captivating episodes of the year, Young Thug sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for an unfiltered conversation in which he opens up in like never before after beating Georgia's biggest case, enduring a trial that shook the hip-hop world and reflecting on the emotional toll of incarceration, how he navigated leaked phone calls, and the impact it all had on his family and mental health. From the moment the guys start talking, Thug is full of emotion, remorse and takes accountability for all that he's been through and put the people closest to him through- he longs for a fresh start but doesn't waiver on who he is, his manhood and doubles down on loyalty. Ryan asks Thug how things got to where they did and why he turned to the streets, despite his overwhelming success, dating back to his childhood and growing up in a house with his father as an example of family. Acknowledging the weight of the world on his shoulders, he reveals how he's been coping, exploring the range of emotions he's experiencing and understanding ways to deal with depression. He speaks candidly about his relationship with his girlfriend Mariah The Scientist and how they survived through the storm, expresses gratitude for fatherhood, and shares what kept him grounded when his future looked uncertain.In a moment of vulnerability, Thug reveals the people who didn't turn their back on him during the dark times, including Drake, Lil Baby and how Kanye and Kim Kardashian are the ones who gave him his biggest break. Thug gives fans a glimpse into his creative mindset, impact on culture, life codes, details behind his new music and how his experiences have transformed his sound and purpose. Going through  emotional—now is Young Thug’s most pivotal moment, as he tunes out the negative noise, ignores the criticism and embraces the chance to start over.  Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I still haven’t got over that Super Bowl, I have yet to watch that game through because it’s that painful and I was that close to getting my ring. I hate the Super Bowl. I hate February.” Charles "Peanut" Tillman On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, former NFL star Charles "Peanut" Tillman joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for an unforgettable conversation that goes far beyond the football field. Known for his legendary "Peanut Punch" and Pro Bowl career with the Chicago Bears, Tillman opens up about the highs and lows of life in the NFL, the mental grind of competition, and what truly defined his time on the gridiron. He shares how it's still difficult to think about coming up short in two Super Bowls and how it pains him to this day to watch football in February. He takes the guys through his infamous career, some of his legendary plays and how he was the only player close to reaching a historic NFL milestone, of the 40/40 club with 44 forced fumbles and two picks short of 40 interceptions.  But his story didn’t end with football. In a tremendous pivot of honor, Peanut talks about his decision to join the FBI after NFL retirement—a rare and inspiring path for a professional athlete. He shares what drove him to serve in a completely different arena, the challenges of the transition, and how discipline and purpose continue to shape his life. Growing up with his father in the military, he always had a passion to serve the country and joining the bureau was his way to make an impact. But recent changes and demands in protecting the homeland led Peanut to abruptly leave the FBI after eight years of service, which he opens up on and shares why for the first time.  Peanut also reflects on the most important role he’s ever played: being a father. He gets deeply personal about his family, including the emotional journey with his daughter’s health, and how that experience changed his entire perspective on life, love, and prayer. Fred deems his storytelling as his favorite share in our Pivot history.  The guys wrap up talking ball, sharing career moments and reminisce he plays we never live down! This is an episode about resilience, reinvention, and real priorities. Don't miss this raw and heartfelt sit-down with a true game-changer—on and off the field.  New episodes every week — Comment, let us know what you think and don't forget to subscribe-- so you never miss a Pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"What's true, what's not true, the world is changing right in front of us." Fred Taylor In a world filled with uncertainty and questionable times, Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder and Fred Taylor come together for this 3-man conversation on what unites us all- humanity, sports and laughter. This week in sports, nothing is a guarantee — and that’s what makes ball great, you have to play the game to see how it shakes out. We break down the NFL's most debated questions heading into Week 3: Is Patrick Mahomes still on top, or is Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson closing the gap? Why did Shedeur Sanders not want to play in Baltimore? How is Tom Brady's dual role between owner and broadcaster affecting how he does is job and the advantages vs disadvantages of his presence. RC weighs in on player and non-player perspectives in media while Channing and Fred talk through the frenzy of it all from last couple weeks. And we get into ring talk, following Bud Crawford's victory vs Canelo and where does it rank the undefeated pound for pound champion with the greats, did this move him up on boxing's throne high enough to take Floyd Mayweather’s GOAT crown? We discuss. Pivot Bets are paid with college football rivalry wins in our family and the guys open up on sharing thoughts and feelings around all that's going on in the world today. Tap in to kick off your weekend with your favorite trio. Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices