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The Team House

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The Team House is a long-form, fiercely apolitical national security podcast hosted by Jack Murphy, featuring special operations veterans, intelligence professionals, frontline reporters, and guests who have never spoken publicly before. It delivers deep-dive conversations on conflict, tradecraft, and the forces shaping the world, alongside the sister show Eyes On Geopolitics hosted by Mick Mulroy, Andy Milburn, and Jason Lyons, focused on breaking down current geopolitical events and what they mean for national security.

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670 - Former CIA Officer & Torture Program Whistleblower | John Kiriakou
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  • 670 - Former CIA Officer & Torture Program Whistleblower | John Kiriakou

    John Kiriakou is a former CIA officer who worked as both an analyst and operations officer, serving on the Iraq portfolio, in Greece, and in Pakistan, where he helped lead the capture of Abu Zubaydah. He later became a prominent whistleblower on the CIA’s post-9/11 torture program, was prosecuted under the Espionage Act, served time in federal prison, and has since worked as an author, commentator, and lecturer.

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    00:00 – Start
    01:01 – John Kiriakou’s Upbringing & Greek-American Family
    06:29 – Studying Middle Eastern Affairs & an Early Interest in Espionage
    09:15 – The CIA Officer Posing as His College Professor
    12:29 – Joining the CIA as an Analyst
    14:53 – Briefing President George H.W. Bush During the Gulf War
    16:58 – Working the Gulf War From CIA Headquarters
    20:06 – Life After the Gulf War & Getting Burned Out on Iraq
    22:30 – Writing a National Intelligence Estimate on Saddam Hussein
    22:53 – Deciding to Leave Analysis for Operations
    25:06 – Going Through CIA Operational Training
    28:37 – Weapons, Explosives & Recruiting Spies
    29:45 – Arriving in Athens as a CIA Case Officer
    33:46 – Walk-Ins, Probes & Embassy Security
    37:52 – CIA Disguises & Fooling the U.S. Ambassador
    42:40 – The Terrorist Group 17 November
    45:12 – The Assassination of British Defense Attaché Stephen Saunders
    48:38 – 17 November Names Kiriakou in Its Manifesto
    51:26 – Who Was Really Behind 17 November?
    55:09 – How the Group Was Finally Unmasked
    1:01:24 – Interrogating Carlos the Jackal
    1:03:32 – 9/11 Changes Everything
    1:04:44 – Watching the Second Plane Hit From CIA Headquarters
    1:07:41 – Volunteering for the War on Terror
    1:08:34 – Pakistan After 9/11: “The Wild West”
    1:11:38 – Pakistan, the Taliban & the War Next Door
    1:14:02 – The Two Faces of Pakistani Intelligence
    1:15:51 – Capturing Abu Zubaydah
    1:16:42 – Inside the CIA’s Torture Program
    1:18:09 – Why Kiriakou Refused Torture Training
    1:18:43 – Going Public About CIA Torture
    1:21:17 – John Brennan Reopens the Case Against Him
    1:21:40 – Charged Under the Espionage Act
    1:22:34 – Facing 45 Years & Taking the Plea Deal
    1:23:08 – Why John Brennan Wanted Him Prosecuted
    1:23:32 – Obama’s Crackdown on National Security Leaks
    1:25:57 – Heading to Federal Prison
    1:26:24 – The Prison Assignment That Wasn’t What the Judge Ordered
    1:29:21 – Learning How to Survive Federal Prison
    1:31:30 – Becoming the Prisonhouse Appeal Writer
    1:32:36 – Race, Gangs & the Social Structure of Prison
    1:36:47 – How the Mafia Ran Prison Rackets
    1:43:10 – Using CIA Tradecraft Behind Bars
    1:46:18 – A Prisoner Puts a Contract on Kiriakou
    1:48:19 – Getting Out of Prison & Starting Over
    1:50:05 – Anger at the System & the People Who Were Never Prosecuted
    1:53:13 – Where Is the Line Between Interrogation & Torture?
    1:57:26 – Waterboarding, War Crimes & the Torture Debate
    1:59:11 – Why Did the U.S. Invade Iraq?
    2:02:03 – The WMD Intelligence Fight Inside Washington
    2:04:00 – Did Overthrowing Saddam Hand Iraq to Iran?
    2:05:45 – Why Kiriakou Went to Work for Sputnik
    2:06:48 – Criticizing Russia While Working for Russian Media
    2:12:50 – Life After Sputnik & What He’s Doing Now
    2:15:43 – CIA Declassified & Digging Through Old Intelligence Files
    2:18:16 – MKUltra & CIA History
    2:18:25 – Audience Questions
    2:29:47 – Would He Blow the Whistle Again?
    2:42:48 – Public Trust, the CIA & Government...

    Thu, 22 Oct 2026
  • 669 - Did America Just Switch Sides on Ukraine? | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS

    We break down the reported throttling of Starlink in Ukraine, the Trump administration’s shifting Russia policy, and whether U.S. decisions are now putting Ukrainians and Americans on the ground at greater risk. We also discuss Europe’s ability to operate without U.S. support, the danger of a new escalation with Iran, and growing unrest over Israeli settler violence in the West Bank.
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    00:00 – Start
    00:21 – Did the U.S. Throttle Starlink in Ukraine?
    01:07 – Russia’s Massive Strike on Kyiv
    02:37 – Has Trump Shifted U.S. Policy Toward Russia?
    03:54 – The Diesel Deal & the White House’s Russia Strategy
    05:03 – Did U.S. Policy Put Americans in Kyiv at Risk?
    06:33 – Starlink vs. Starshield Explained
    08:50 – Why Diesel Prices Are Driving U.S. Policy
    09:46 – Did the U.S. Stop Warning Ukraine About Russian Strikes?
    10:50 – “I’ve Never Seen Anything Like This”
    12:02 – The Loophole in the Russia Sanctions Law
    13:03 – Was the Lindsey Graham Bill Just Political Theater?
    14:01 – “Russia Is Not Our Friend”
    14:17 – Conservatives Begin Breaking With Trump on Russia
    15:09 – Calls to Investigate Trump’s Russia Ties
    15:57 – Corruption, Kushner, Witkoff & Russia Business Deals
    17:43 – Why Former Generals Stay Quiet
    18:37 – The Intelligence-Sharing Decision That Crossed a Line
    20:32 – Do Retired Generals Have a Duty to Speak Out?
    21:25 – Can Europe Defend Itself Without the United States?
    23:47 – NATO, Nuclear Deterrence & European Rearmament
    26:13 – Can Europe Replace Starlink?
    27:38 – The Risk of Europe Becoming Dependent on Chinese Satellites
    28:53 – How the Iran War Boxed Washington Into a Corner
    29:58 – Are U.S. Forces Preparing to Escalate Against Iran?
    31:54 – The Risk of an Iran–U.S. Miscalculation
    33:45 – How Deterrence Can Become a Threat
    34:30 – Could Iran Preempt a U.S. Strike?
    35:15 – Reports of a “Symbolic” Strike Proposal
    36:04 – Iran’s Information War Aimed at U.S. Voters
    37:05 – Why Nobody Can Predict What Happens Next
    37:55 – “There Are No Straight Lines in Nature”
    39:04 – Israeli Settler Violence & the West...

    Mon, 19 Oct 2026
  • 668 - The Gurkha Who Made It Into the 22 SAS | Krishna Thapa

    Krishna Thapa looks back on his journey from growing up in Nepal and earning a place in the Gurkhas to passing SAS selection and serving in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other operations around the world. We also discuss mountain warfare, the culture of the SAS, the loss of fellow operators, and how meditation and the “Warrior Monk” mindset helped shape his life after military service.
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    00:00 – Start
    01:04 – Growing Up in Nepal & the Gurkha Bloodline
    04:56 – His Grandfather, World War II & the Kukri
    07:21 – The Kukri: Tool, Symbol & Weapon
    08:07 – Being Born Into a Gurkha Family Legacy
    10:37 – The History of the Gurkhas
    13:03 – Attempting Gurkha Selection at 17
    14:10 – The Brutal Doko Race
    16:14 – Growing Up in the Himalayas & Preparing for Selection
    17:50 – Failing Gurkha Selection the First Time
    18:36 – Coming Back & Making It on His Second Attempt
    19:55 – Gurkha Basic Training & Learning English
    21:39 – British Officers & the Gurkha Command Structure
    24:22 – Joining 1st Royal Gurkha Rifles
    25:09 – Life Inside a Gurkha Battalion
    27:27 – Years of Training, Courses & Preparing for War
    28:41 – Jungle Warfare in Brunei
    29:32 – How the SAS Suddenly Entered the Picture
    31:07 – The First Gurkha Trial for SAS Selection
    33:41 – Arriving at SAS Selection With 375 Candidates
    37:05 – The Mental Pressure of SAS Selection
    38:33 – Only Two Gurkhas Make It Through
    40:10 – Adapting to SAS Culture
    43:16 – Jungle Selection in Brunei
    46:08 – Joining SAS Mountain Troop
    48:00 – Learning Mountaineering From Scratch
    49:36 – Why Mountain Warfare Is So Difficult
    52:08 – Nepalese Operators in the SBS
    52:40 – Mentoring Fellow Nepalese Special Operators
    54:12 – The Culture Shock of Joining the SAS
    56:56 – Deployments With the SAS
    58:03 – Going to War in Iraq
    59:16 – The Missions That Stayed With Him
    1:00:44 – Using Mountain Warfare Skills in Afghanistan
    1:02:02 – Becoming Chief of Mountain & Winter Warfare
    1:03:29 – Teaching Special...

    Sat, 17 Oct 2026
  • 667 - 22 SAS Operator | Phil Campion (throwback ep)

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    Phil Campion takes us from a brutal childhood and conventional infantry service in Northern Ireland through SAS selection, counterterrorism work, operations in the Balkans, and the Sierra Leone hostage rescue. We also discuss his post-military years in private security, the personal cost of that lifestyle, his transition into media, and the launch of Forces Radio.

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    00:00 – Start
    01:18 – Phil Campion’s Childhood & Early Life
    03:32 – Growing Up in a Children’s Home
    04:20 – Joining the Army & Finally Feeling Safe
    06:05 – How Phil Ended Up in the Infantry
    08:35 – Joining the Royal Hampshire Regiment
    10:16 – British Army Basic Training
    14:33 – Arriving at His First Unit
    16:01 – Phil’s First “Operation” as a Soldier
    17:27 – Meeting Princess Diana
    19:12 – Deploying to Northern Ireland
    19:46 – Understanding the Troubles From Both Sides
    22:29 – Counterinsurgency & Patrolling Northern Ireland
    25:19 – Fighting, Military Jail & a Troubled Young Soldier
    27:43 – Why Phil Wanted Special Forces
    29:36 – What the British Army Was Actually Doing in Northern Ireland
    31:11 – Deciding to Attempt SAS Selection
    32:06 – Going Around His Chain of Command
    34:18 – “You Should Try Special Forces Selection”
    36:40 – The SAS Hills Phase
    37:51 – Jungle Selection in Brunei
    42:14 – SERE, Escape & Interrogation Training
    44:07 – Parachute Training & Nearly Killing Himself
    48:00 – SAS Counterterrorism Training
    48:15 – Passing Selection
    50:16 – Joining D Squadron
    52:17 – Life as the New Guy in the SAS
    56:08 – Hunting War Criminals in the Balkans
    57:35 – The Stansted Hijacking
    59:19 – Preparing to Storm the Aircraft
    1:02:25 – More Stories From the Hijacking
    1:05:27 – The Sierra Leone Hostage Crisis Begins
    1:07:12 – Two SAS Soldiers Killed Before the Mission
    1:08:49 – D Squadron Gets the Call
    1:09:52 – Deploying Into Sierra Leone
    1:11:02 – How the Royal Irish Soldiers Were Taken Hostage
    1:14:25 – When the Rescue Mission Became Necessary
    1:16:02 – Intelligence & Planning the Assault
    1:17:05 – Three Plans to Rescue the Hostages
    1:18:01 – The Crazy Helicopter Assault Plan
    1:20:33 – Launching the Mission
    1:21:12 – The SAS Hits the Village
    1:22:06 – Surprise, Firepower & Securing the Hostages
    1:28:50 – Weapons, Mortars & SAS Firepower
    1:30:31 – Why Phil Left the SAS
    1:31:02 – Losing a Close Friend
    1:32:46 – Leaving the Army Days Before 9/11
    1:34:45 – Entering the Private Military Contracting World
    1:35:34 – The Early Afghanistan Contracting Boom
    1:36:43 – When the Contractor Lifestyle Caught Up With Him
    1:37:21 – Drinking, Violence & an Attempted Murder Charge
    1:38:54 – Gaza, West Africa & Anti-Piracy Work
    1:41:47 – Becoming a Civilian After Years at War
    1:42:19 – Prison, Losing Everything & Starting Over
    1:43:31 – Breaking Into Television & News Media
    1:44:18 – Reporting From Syria
    1:47:37 – How the Media Uses Veterans
    1:49:20 – Taking Back Control of His Own Story
    1:50:39 – Building Forces Radio
    1:53:03 – Launching the Forces Radio Podcasts
    1:58:31 – Audience Questions
    2:00:06 – Phil’s Favorite SAS Story From World War II
    2:01:04 – Secret Surveillance in Northern Ireland
    2:02:58 – How Conventional Troops Learned Covert Surveillance
    2:04:34 – Closing Thoughts

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    Thu, 15 Oct 2026
  • 666 - Houthis Pound Saudi Airports & Trump Throws Putin a Lifeline | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS

    We break down the escalating Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia, the growing pressure on Riyadh’s air defenses, and whether the U.S. could be pulled into a new campaign in Yemen. We also discuss Trump’s Russian diesel deal, Iran’s use of Moscow as a diplomatic channel, and the deeper political dysfunction and public apathy shaping American decision-making.
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    00:00 – Start
    00:19 – Houthis Strike Saudi Airports
    01:20 – Deadly Ballistic Missile Attack on Riyadh Airport
    03:30 – Houthis Warn Airlines Away From Saudi Airspace
    04:40 – Is Saudi Arabia Running Low on Air Defense Interceptors?
    06:30 – Should the U.S. Strike Houthi Missile Launchers?
    07:30 – An American Killed in the Airport Attack
    09:19 – Saudi-Backed Ground Offensive in Yemen
    11:13 – Jack Joins the Conversation
    11:32 – Is Iran Opening a Second Front Through the Houthis?
    13:44 – What a New U.S. Air Campaign in Yemen Could Look Like
    14:46 – Could the U.S. Put Ground Troops Into Yemen?
    16:51 – Could Saudi Forces Handle the Ground War?
    19:48 – Would Another Air Campaign Against the Houthis Work?
    22:15 – The Real Goal: Protecting Saudi Arabia
    23:31 – Bab al-Mandab, Houthi Missiles & the Ground Offensive
    25:37 – Trump’s Russian Diesel Deal
    27:09 – Why Ukraine Has Little Reason to Stop Striking Russia
    28:10 – Russia, Iran & the Contradictions in U.S. Policy
    31:07 – Diesel Prices, Midterms & the Russia Deal
    34:18 – Havana Syndrome & a New Russia Investigation
    36:55 – Iran Sends Negotiating Terms Through Putin
    38:18 – Is the American Political System Becoming Permanently Gridlocked?
    39:47 – Why Andy Thinks the U.S. Is Different From European Democracies
    44:31 – Apathy, Doomerism & Losing Faith in Institutions
    47:02 – What Could Actually Trigger a Systemic Crisis?
    48:42 – Politics, Fandom & Escapism
    49:49 – Why Americans Talk Sports More Than Geopolitics
    53:26 – Why So Many Americans Have Checked Out of Politics
    55:06 – Would Higher Voter Turnout Actually Change Anything?
    56:15 – The Slow Erosion of American Institutions
    57:55 – Politics as Entertainment
    59:01 – Money in Politics & Endless Campaign Seasons
    1:00:17 – Andy Signs Off
    1:01:15 – AUSA, Drones & the Defense Industry
    1:02:33 – Chinese Honeypots at AUSA
    1:04:10 – Closing Thoughts

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    Mon, 12 Oct 2026
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