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From combat engineer to combat medic, flight medic, Army officer, recruiting commander, and now military and veteran recruiter, Peter Mahmood’s career is a story of adaptability, service, and being willing to take the next opportunity, even when it wasn’t part of the original plan.

In this episode of the Tango Tango Podcast, sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Army veteran and Cox Enterprises military relations leader Peter Mahmood to explore his remarkable 24-year military career and the pivots that shaped his path. Peter shares stories from assignments in Germany, Korea, West Point, Washington, D.C., and Iraq, along with his transition from enlisted soldier to officer and eventually into Army recruiting. The conversation then turns to Peter’s civilian career, his work connecting veterans and military spouses with opportunities at Cox Enterprises, and practical advice for service members preparing to leave the military. Peter also discusses why translating the full scope of military experience, not simply an MOS, is critical to finding the right civilian career.

Key Takeaways

Peter’s journey is proof that a career doesn’t have to follow a straight line to be successful. Whether you’re a service member preparing to transition, a veteran considering your next career move, a military spouse, or an employer looking to better understand military talent, this conversation offers practical insights and encouragement. Tune in for a candid look at navigating career pivots, translating military experience, building meaningful relationships, and finding opportunities beyond the uniform.

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Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans and Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/veterans-arc-army-life-corporate-transition-hiring-instincts-2tt17

Not every road to purpose is a straight one. For Michelle Lang, it wound through Fulton County, Pennsylvania, a rural community of just over a thousand people, through years of military spouse life nobody prepares you for, and eventually toward a mission she built herself.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Michelle Lang, Executive Director of Operation Honor: Rural Salutes, to talk through her path from small-town Pennsylvania to founding a nonprofit focused on bringing resources to rural veterans and military families. Michelle opens up about the hard years at Fort Drum, working four jobs just to feel useful, the toxic spouse culture she encountered, and the moment during her husband's deployment that made her stop waiting and start building.

They also get into the Bush Institute Veterans Leadership Program, how the connections she made there became the foundation of her work, and what Operation Honor Rural Salutes is doing across North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and South Carolina to bring community events, VA resources, and real support directly to the people who need it most. Michelle's advice to struggling military spouses cuts straight to the point: take ownership of yourself, build your community, and remember that being a good neighbor starts with you.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:43) Growing up in small-town Fulton County, Pennsylvania

(03:51) Small-town job market and JLG Industries

(04:55) College, first jobs, and life before the military

(07:13) Learning about military life through Chris

(08:19) How they met and got married

(10:18) Struggling as a military spouse at Fort Drum

(13:46) Finding community at Fort Benning

(16:32) Chris's transition and the spark for a nonprofit

(17:11) Starting Operation Honor Rural Salutes during deployment

(20:41) Lessons and connections from the Bush Institute program

(26:38) Scaling events to four states and advice for military spouses

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans and Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/no-veteran-forgotten-rural-mission-2tt16

Transitioning from military service to a civilian career can feel overwhelming, especially when service members are unsure where to begin or which resources to use. In this episode of the Tango Tango Podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Marine Corps veteran and UPS veteran recruiter Eric Wesolowski to share honest lessons, practical strategies, and firsthand experience from both sides of the hiring process.

Eric reflects on his journey from Marine infantryman and sniper team leader to military instructor, reservist, and veteran recruiter. He opens up about leaving active duty without a clear career plan, accepting the first job he could find, experiencing a layoff, and eventually discovering a new career through an unexpected networking connection.

Drawing on their combined experience recruiting and supporting veterans, Eric and Lloyd offer actionable guidance for transitioning service members, veterans, and military spouses. They discuss the importance of starting the transition process early, building genuine relationships, using LinkedIn strategically, keeping resumes current, tailoring applications to each position, and approaching recruiters with clear, professional requests.

Key Takeaways:

Whether you are a year away from leaving the military, only weeks from transitioning, or already searching for your next opportunity, this episode offers practical advice you can use immediately. Eric and Lloyd provide an honest look at the mistakes veterans often make during the job search while showing how preparation, networking, professionalism, and consistent action can open doors. Tune in to learn how to present your experience more effectively, build meaningful connections, and take greater control of your civilian career transition.

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans and Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/from-marine-sniper-ups-veteran-recruiter-2tt15

In this classic episode of the Tango Tango podcast, sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Pat McNamara, a retired Delta Force operator, small business owner, creator of Basic Dude Stuff, and the ultimate champion of resilience. Mac opens up about his journey from elite military operations to navigating darkness after service, revealing the deeply personal story behind his second lease on life.

Listeners get a raw look at the highs and lows of Pat’s career, from failing Special Forces training to becoming one of the top performers in Delta. But the most gripping moments come after the battlefield, when he’s living in a bonus room above his garage, caring for his kids, and battling depression and burnout. It was a moment with his son and a screech owl that sparked the turnaround, and a single run that helped him remember who he was.

This isn’t just a story about combat. It’s a story of fatherhood, recovery, discipline, and the choice to grow. From surviving a towed parachute jump to creating a children’s show rooted in curiosity and wonder, Pat’s journey is a lesson in how warriors heal, rebuild, and give back.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:16) Meeting Rebecca and getting a second lease on life

(04:25) Growing up in Connecticut and love for the outdoors

(06:24) Wrestling, discipline, and turning around high school

(09:02) Joining the Army and choosing Special Forces

(10:30) The Q Course and failing first phase

(14:00) Training in weapons and unconventional warfare

(17:02) Parachute school and surviving a towed jump injury

(23:18) Returning to training and pushing through setbacks

(27:00) Spying on the Soviet army during the Cold War

(30:42) Trying out for Delta and breaking his ankle

(33:30) Leveling up and self-governance in Delta

(36:00) Missions in Bosnia and the mindset of preparation

(39:43) Retiring to care for his kids

(41:00) Transitioning, depression, and personal breakdown

(44:00) The turning point with his son and a screech owl

(46:21) Reclaiming discipline with a 6AM run

(50:00) Cop's life-changing advice and moving forward

(52:00) Reconnecting with Rebecca

(53:15) Battling chronic illness and finding natural healing

(57:30) Why Mac embraced social media and stayed authentic

(58:50) Creating Basic Dude Stuff and building a kids' show

(01:02:30) Inspiring kids through curiosity and nature

(01:07:32) Muscle cars, craftsmanship, and honoring legacy

(01:13:23) Building a multifaceted business post-military

(01:16:03) Invader Coffee and the power of quality over gimmicks

(01:17:22) Mac’s advice for struggling veterans

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans and Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/tango-tango-classic-delta-force-world-wonder-2tt14

Some paths don’t move in a straight line. They’re shaped by grit, responsibility, and the willingness to keep choosing impact, even when the original plan changes. For Katherine Torres-Pummill, that path began in Queens, New York, where she was raised by a resilient single mother in a first-generation household surrounded by culture, community, and hard-earned lessons. She once imagined a future in law and public service, but her career in media revealed another way to serve: by telling stories, creating visibility, and helping communities be seen.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Katherine Torres-Pummill, General Manager of Military & Defense at Recurrent Ventures, to discuss her journey from New York City to leading some of the most influential brands in the military and veteran space. Kathy reflects on growing up in Queens, working full-time while attending college at night, building a career across outdoor advertising, news, licensing, and digital media, and taking the leap that brought her into military media through We Are The Mighty.

They also discuss the growth of Recurrent Military & Defense, including Military Influencer Conference, MilSpouse Fest, We Are The Mighty, Task & Purpose, and TWZ. Kathy shares how these brands are working together to serve the military community through storytelling, journalism, events, resources, and connection. Today, her mission is focused on giving the microphone back to the community, elevating the people doing the work, and making sure veterans, spouses, service members, and military families have the visibility and support they deserve.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(02:47) Kathy’s Queens roots and first-generation grit

(04:33) The student who always sat up front

(05:26) Turning a VLP project into real impact

(08:11) From law school dreams to media purpose

(09:47) Working full-time and earning her degree

(15:18) Taking a chance on We Are The Mighty

(20:55) What MIC really means for the military community

(23:48) Expanding MilSpouse Fest to reach more families

(27:02) How We Are The Mighty tells military stories

(28:24) Task & Purpose and journalism that protects the community

(29:12) TWZ and trusted defense reporting

(32:09) Why MIC brings its mission to new cities

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now and CareSource Military and Veterans. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/leading-military-media-ecosystem-2tt13

Some callings start with a moment you can’t ignore. For Brandon Wilson, that moment came after the death of his childhood friend, whose helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan. Raised in Brevard, North Carolina, in a family rooted in faith, hard work, and generations of military service, Brandon left a life as a professional hunting guide and walked into a Marine Corps recruiting office ready to serve. What followed was 12 years in the infantry, deployments to Iraq and Ukraine, and a deeper understanding of sacrifice, brotherhood, and what it means to keep showing up for the people beside you.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Brandon Wilson, Marine Corps veteran, Chief Operating Officer of Asheville Buncombe Community Christian Ministry, and longtime veteran advocate, for a conversation about service, transition, mentorship, and faith. Brandon reflects on growing up in rural North Carolina, joining the Marine Corps after his childhood friend’s death, finding his footing after leaving the infantry, and the chance encounter with General Carl Mundy that became one of the most meaningful mentorships of his life. He also shares how his work as a veteran service officer grew into systems-level advocacy, from Camp Lejeune water contamination claims to helping build North Carolina’s Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.

Today, Brandon continues that mission through Asheville Buncombe Community Christian Ministry, where he helps lead programs supporting veterans, families, and communities across North Carolina. From housing and employment to suicide prevention, disaster recovery, and long-term support for Western North Carolina after devastating flooding, his work is grounded in the same belief that carried him from the Marine Corps into public service: veterans still have a place, a purpose, and something powerful to give. His advice to those struggling is simple and steady: keep the faith, find a mentor, and find your place.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:13) Brandon Wilson and his veteran leadership work

(04:51) Growing up with faith, service, and hard work

(07:51) Becoming a hunting guide before the Marine Corps

(11:28) Joining the Marines and serving as a machine gunner

(15:51) Leaving infantry and starting a new chapter

(17:12) Losing brotherhood during military transition

(19:02) Finding purpose through helping veterans

(21:23) Meeting General Mundy and gaining a mentor

(25:15) Advocating for Camp Lejeune veterans

(26:38) Moving from county support to statewide change

(30:44) Leading ABCCM’s mission across North Carolina

(32:54) Responding to Western North Carolina flooding

(36:05) Rebuilding housing and support for veterans

(44:02) Brandon’s advice for struggling veterans

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now and CareSource Military and Veterans. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/appalachian-roots-marine-corps-grit-2tt12

Some careers are built through careful planning. Others are shaped by curiosity, service, and a willingness to keep showing up wherever people need you most. For Beau Higgins, the path from New Orleans to Marine Corps colonel was never about chasing status or recognition. It was about leadership, responsibility, and taking care of the people around him. From humanitarian missions in Somalia to combat deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan, Beau learned that leadership changes as you grow, but the foundation stays the same: put your people first, stay humble, and never make it about yourself.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Beau Higgins, Marine Corps veteran, senior client partner at The Military Veteran, and VP for business development at Oplign, to discuss leadership, military transition, and the power of personal branding. Beau reflects on his journey from New Orleans to the battlefield to the corporate world, sharing lessons on mentorship, veteran hiring, networking, and why success comes from helping others succeed first.

Today, Beau continues serving the veteran community through organizations like Oplign and The Military Veteran, helping veterans and military spouses navigate careers, connect with opportunities, and build stronger futures. Whether speaking at events, mentoring transitioning service members, or simply showing up for people behind the scenes, Beau’s mission remains rooted in the same philosophy that guided him from the beginning: leadership is about helping others succeed and making sure nobody has to navigate the journey alone.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:56) Jesuit values that shaped Beau’s leadership philosophy

(05:02) Choosing UVA and walking onto football

(08:09) Joining Marines after meeting recruiter

(10:04) Camp Lejeune and first Somalia deployment

(11:41) Somalia humanitarian mission and combat realities

(17:47) Servant leadership and caring for Marines

(19:31) Lieutenant versus colonel leadership responsibilities

(21:49) First Marines entering Afghanistan after 9/11

(24:29) Leadership lessons from General Dunford

(27:43) Transitioning from Marines through networking conversations

(31:23) Building Amazon’s veteran hiring initiatives

(38:35) How the jacket brand started

(42:54) Personal branding through volunteering and consistency

(52:37) Family, running, and veteran volunteer work

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by CareSource Military and Veterans and Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/beyond-career-mission-save-veterans-2tt11

Some of the strongest leaders don’t find their voice at the peak of their success. They find it in the moments when everything starts to fall apart. Shaped by humble beginnings, hard lessons, and a constant awareness of the paths he didn’t want to take, Dr. Keith “KC” Castille’s rise to Chief Master Sergeant was built slowly through mentorship, self-discovery, and a growing understanding that leadership isn’t about rank, it’s about responsibility. Behind the uniform, though, were deeper struggles. Loss, grief, and the weight of raising three sons on his own brought him to a breaking point that forced him to confront something he had spent a lifetime avoiding.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast sponsored by CareSource, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Dr. Keith “KC” Castille, CEO of C2H LLC, for an honest, unfiltered reflection on what it means to lead when you’re hurting. Together, they move through the defining chapters of KC’s life and the quiet battles that followed him along the way. KC shares the moment he realized he needed help, the decision to seek it, and how that choice reshaped not only his life, but his understanding of strength. They explore the realities of military transition, the loss of identity that can come with it, and the uncomfortable truth that success on paper often hides personal struggle beneath the surface.

Today, KC is channeling those lessons into something bigger than himself. Through his company, C2H, and his work across the veteran and global community, he is focused on helping others connect logic with empathy, performance with purpose, and leadership with humanity. His mission is simple, but not easy: to make sure people don’t have to struggle alone, and to remind them that even in the hardest moments, there is still a path forward.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) A breaking point and a turning decision

(01:39) The early influences that shaped KC's perspective on life

(04:56) Joining the Air Force and finding direction

(09:12) KC's career journey and leadership awakening

(16:06) On failure, readiness, and becoming a chief

(19:15) Seeking mental health support after loss

(23:33) Why KC shares the struggles behind his success

(24:08) What becoming a chief taught KC about serving the 99%

(26:43) The Pentagon and strategic leadership

(33:13) Transitioning out of the military

(38:54) Building C2H and a new mission

(42:30) KC’s work with Recurrent and the Military Influencer Community

(45:58) Final reflections on community and connection

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/connecting-head-heart-leading-purpose-precision-2tt10

Purpose can be forged in the most unexpected crucibles. From growing up as a homeschooled "Grady baby" in Atlanta's South Cobb area to serving as an Army infantry officer deployed to Afghanistan with Special Forces, Zack Knight's path took him through the grind of blue-collar work, the discipline of law enforcement, the chaos of combat, and the depths of his own personal rock bottom, before finding healing and a renewed sense of mission.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Army veteran, entrepreneur, author, and ATLVets founder Zack Knight. Despite sharing a last name, the two are quick to clarify they're not related, though they've become close brothers in the veteran community. Zack reflects on his Atlanta upbringing, his years with the Smyrna Police Department, his decision to join active duty at 28, and his deployment to Afghanistan in 2019 where his unit lost six soldiers.

They discuss the physical and mental toll of combat and Zack’s spiral into survivor’s guilt and a near-fatal crisis. From that low point, a friend’s simple challenge sparked a transformational self-discovery. Zack also shares the unconventional healing practices that helped him rebuild, from Emory's outpatient therapy program and daily gratitude rituals to teaching himself piano with a partially numb hand. Today, he channels those hard-won lessons into ATLVets, a nonprofit now operating in 12 states, focused on giving veterans the continuity, community, and "now what" they need to thrive in post-service life.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(02:31) Growing up in Atlanta as a "Grady baby"

(04:00) Homeschooling and learning self-reliance

(05:45) Almost joining the Air Force at 18

(07:48) Starting a business while on active duty

(10:49) Why Zack joined the Army at 28

(11:21) Scoring in the 97th percentile on the ASVAB

(13:01) Deploying to Afghanistan in 2019

(14:08) Losing six soldiers in combat

(15:46) Physical injuries discovered after service

(18:25) Suicide attempt and the darkest chapter

(21:59) "You don't even love yourself"

(25:30) Survivor's guilt and finding the right therapist

(27:36) Learning piano with a partially numb hand

(33:20) Founding ATLVets to serve veterans

(48:15) Zack's closing advice for veterans

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com

The journey to purpose unfolds in unexpected ways. From growing up in small-town New Jersey to serving in the U.S. Marine Corps during Desert Storm, Kevin Schmiegel’s path led him through nonprofit leadership and ultimately to founding ZeroMils, a company committed to helping veterans thrive in civilian life.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight speaks with Marine Corps veteran and ZeroMils founder Kevin Schmiegel. He reflects on his upbringing in Toms River, New Jersey, his ROTC scholarship, and his career as an artillery officer in the Marines. After his service, he transitioned into nonprofit work, ultimately founding Zero Mills to support veterans in thriving beyond military service.

They discuss Schmiegel’s military service, the hardships he faced, and how his nonprofit experiences led him to create a new model for veteran success. Today, he’s focused on helping veterans build purpose, opportunity, and community in their post-service lives.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:36) Growing up in a Marine family

(03:41) How sports built Kevin’s discipline

(05:43) ROTC and military commissioning journey

(08:25) Choosing artillery in the Marines

(09:53) Serving in Desert Storm deployment

(15:07) Marine Expeditionary Unit and London orders

(22:16) Leaving the military for the U.S. Chamber

(25:28) Building “Hiring Our Heroes” program

(26:35) Shadowing CEOs at the Chamber

(27:26) Addressing the veterans hiring gap

(29:24) Media breakthrough at hiring events

(30:23) Securing funding and scaling quickly

(32:39) Facing burnout and stepping down

(34:43) Losing purpose after leaving

(37:16) The “Courage Cap” and Kevin’s turning point

(39:14) Leading new nonprofit ventures

(40:11) Founding ZeroMils to empower veterans

(43:00) Challenging nonprofit culture norms

(45:42) Emphasizing due diligence and impact

(49:23) Vision behind The Service Project

(53:24) Kevin's advice for transitioning veterans

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/redefining-veteran-narrative-broken-thriving-2tt8

In this episode of the Tango Tango Podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Air Force veteran and former Deputy of Military Affairs at USAA, Michael Kelly, for a candid conversation about leadership, transition, and building a meaningful career after service.

From his early days as a security policeman to retraining into public affairs and ultimately becoming an officer, Michael shares the pivotal moments, mentors, and mindset shifts that shaped his journey. He reflects on the realities of military life, lessons learned through deployment and leadership, and how those experiences translated into a successful 20+ year corporate career.

The conversation also dives into one of the most critical topics for service members: transitioning to civilian life. Michael offers practical advice on networking, planning ahead, and positioning yourself for success in a competitive job market.

Whether you're currently serving, transitioning, or simply interested in leadership and career growth, this episode delivers real-world insights you can apply immediately.

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/serving-those-who-serve-2tt7

Purpose often emerges from unexpected paths. For Patrick Flood, that path ran from small-town Wisconsin to Hollywood sets, from Special Forces deployments to entrepreneurship, and ultimately to helping veterans build and exit businesses with dignity.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight speaks with Army Special Forces veteran, entrepreneur, and Owners in Honor founder Patrick Flood. Flood reflects on growing up in Wisconsin, earning an ROTC scholarship to George Washington University, and beginning his career as an Army officer before an unexpected turn into acting in Los Angeles. After booking commercials, television roles, and film work, he realized that success in Hollywood still felt empty and pulled him back toward a life of service.

They discuss Flood’s return to active duty through the U.S. Army Special Operations Command, his deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq, and the injuries and hardships that shaped his leadership and sense of purpose. He also shares how his father’s business was sold for far less than it was worth due to poor exit guidance, an experience that inspired him to found Owners in Honor. Today, he is focused on helping veterans buy and sell businesses in ways that preserve dignity, strengthen communities, and create new pathways for purpose after military service.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(02:16) Growing up in Ephraim, Wisconsin

(04:53) ROTC scholarships and family sacrifice

(10:18) Commissioned, but stuck in limbo

(11:56) Los Angeles move and Army recall

(13:25) Reviving a struggling reserve unit

(17:03) An accidental start in acting

(26:11) Brother’s loss and horse therapy

(29:38) Hollywood emptiness, Army purpose returns

(32:09) Fort Bragg and early war deployments

(33:58) Advised to try Special Forces

(34:43) How acting helped in combat

(37:09) Explaining his Afghanistan combat rotations

(41:52) Bit by a cobra mid-firefight

(47:11) Blast injury, broken neck, TBI

(53:03) Why he founded Owners in Honor

(58:09) Helping veterans buy and sell businesses

(59:23) Fatherhood, walking, swimming, and healing

Additional Links & Resources:

Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tangoConnect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightConnect with Patrick Flood: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmichaelflood/Learn more about Owners in Honor: https://www.ownersinhonor.org/Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/after-battlefield-tragedy-purpose-rise-ceo-2tt6

Nobody trains and educates better than the military. That belief, shaped by decades of service and leadership, continues to guide how she develops people and advises organizations today.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight speaks with retired Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force JoAnne Bass, the first woman to serve as the senior enlisted leader of a United States military service. An Army brat who grew up moving around the world, from Illinois to Germany to Hawaii, Bass reflects on her early years, including getting into trouble as a teenager and joining the Air Force in 1993, looking for direction and discipline.

They discuss her journey from aviation management in the operations world to senior enlisted leadership at Ramstein, Goodfellow, the Pentagon, and Second Air Force. Bass shares lessons on mentorship, resilience, and learning to take care of herself after experiencing burnout. She also speaks candidly about becoming Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force during a time of global uncertainty, navigating public scrutiny, addressing suicide and people policy reform, and leading through the challenges of the digital age. Now in her next chapter, she continues to focus on national security, leadership development, and building strong people and strong families beyond the uniform.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:15) Army brat life across Germany

(03:50) Banned from Hawaii military bases

(07:07) Open general enlistment decision

(10:10) First assignment at Pope AFB

(11:40) Meeting husband at Fort Bragg

(16:58) Ramstein AMOC and DV scheduling

(20:29) NCO Academy during 9/11

(29:35) Ramstein squadron and group leadership

(31:31) Selected chief despite discouraging advice

(34:11) Command chief at Goodfellow AFB

(39:28) Leading professional military education at Pentagon

(45:26) Birthday call selecting next CMSAF

(59:10) Testifying before Congress on force issues

Additional Links & Resources:

Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tangoConnect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightConnect with JoAnne Bass: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jo-bassWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/aim-high-airman-chief-master-sergeant-air-force-journey-2tt5

Do the right thing, even if you never get the credit. That mindset guided a 36-year Army career and continues to drive service beyond the uniform.

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight speaks with retired Sergeant Major of the Army Tony Grinston, who now serves as CEO of Army Emergency Relief. He reflects on growing up in Jasper, Alabama, joining the Army for a two-year enlistment, and serving more than three decades in uniform, including multiple combat deployments and leadership at the highest enlisted level.

They discuss his path to becoming the 16th Sergeant Major of the Army, the demands of advising senior leaders and testifying before Congress, and his approach to tackling suicide, sexual assault, and quality of life by improving how the Army treats its people. Grinston also shares his transition out of uniform, his role leading Army Emergency Relief, and why continuing to serve off the battlefield remains his greatest calling.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:33) Welcome to Tango Tango with Tony Grinston

(01:48) Growing up in Jasper, Alabama

(05:26) From college scholarships to Army enlistment

(07:05) The unexpected path to SMA

(09:50) Choosing artillery over an infantry career path

(11:21) Fort Sill basic training shock

(16:01) Earning a degree during deployments

(19:55) Combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan

(21:12) Inside the SMA selection process

(24:21) Addressing suicide and linked Army challenges

(27:25) Family sacrifices behind the promotion

(30:02) Public scrutiny and protecting the family

(33:48) Helping soldiers with immediate impact

(36:48) Securing barracks funding for soldiers

(42:11) From Army service to AER leadership

(47:02) Emergency grants for military families

Additional Links & Resources:

Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tangoConnect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightConnect with Tony Grinston: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-grinston/Learn more about Army Emergency Relief: https://www.armyemergencyrelief.org/Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/next-mission-sergent-major-army-ceo-army-emergency-relief-2tt4

In this powerful episode of The Tango Tango Podcast, we sit down with Kevin Miller, a U.S. Army veteran and President of the Georgia Veterans Day Parade, to explore a journey defined by service, resilience, and community.

Kevin shares his story from growing up in rural Franklin, Pennsylvania, to enlisting in the Army and training at Fort Benning during Desert Shield. He reflects on serving with the 2nd Infantry Division in Korea near the DMZ, and how that experience shaped his pride in military service and the U.S.–Korea alliance.

The conversation takes a deeply moving turn as Kevin recounts surviving the tragic Green Ramp disaster at Fort Bragg—an event that tested his strength and forever changed his life. He opens up about recovery, brotherhood, and the extraordinary support of the military community.

After transitioning to civilian life, Kevin found new purpose in Atlanta, becoming a driving force behind the Georgia Veterans Day Parade and working with the Korea Defense Veterans Association. His mission: honor those who served, inspire future generations, and help veterans thrive beyond uniform.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

What life is really like near the DMZ in KoreaThe untold story of the Green Ramp tragedyHow veterans rebuild after traumaWhy community and camaraderie matter after serviceHow Kevin is preserving veterans’ legacy in Georgia

If you’re passionate about veteran stories, military history, leadership, and service beyond the battlefield, this episode is for you.

Additional Links & Resources:

Connect with Kevin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-l-miller-ab68257/Georgia Veterans Day Parade: gvda.orgKorea Defense Veterans Association: kdva.vetLearn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tangoLearn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/aboutConnect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightLearn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/vision-valor-veterans-day-inside-leadership-2tt3

On this episode of the Tango Tango Podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Army veteran and Washington Tattoo CEO Mark Reilly for an inspiring conversation about service, music, leadership, and healing.

Mark shares his journey from growing up as a talented young musician in New York to serving in the U.S. Army’s prestigious Old Guard Fife and Drum Corps. Along the way, he reflects on performing on international stages, representing the military through music, and navigating the transition from uniform to civilian leadership.

The conversation dives deep into the Washington Tattoo’s powerful mission to support veteran mental health through music wellness — a unique, community-driven approach that complements traditional care and creates meaningful connections for those who’ve served.

Mark also discusses the organization’s role in America 250, helping celebrate the nation’s 250th anniversary through music, service, and remembrance.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

How music shaped Mark’s military and post-service careerWhat life is like in elite military music unitsHow music wellness supports veteran mental healthThe vision behind the Washington TattooWhy America 250 matters to veterans and their communities

If you’re passionate about veterans’ stories, creative healing, and leadership after service, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

Additional Links & Resources:

Connect with Mark: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmarkreillyLearn more about Washington Tattoo: https://www.thewashingtontattoo.com/Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tangoLearn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/aboutLearn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: http://supplychainnow.com/from-old-guard-world-stage-life-precision-purpose-2tt2

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight speaks with Dr. Qwynn Galloway-Salazar, an Army veteran whose post-service mission is supporting service members, veterans, and their families. She shares how running a military mailroom revealed what lives beneath the uniform and inspired her path into criminal justice and counseling.

They discuss her work at the intersection of trauma recovery and the criminal justice system, including training law enforcement, courts, and treatment programs to recognize military-connected trauma and reduce cycles of crisis and incarceration. Qwynn also discusses compassion fatigue and the practices that help her stay grounded.

Qwynn then explains how a mentor’s terminal diagnosis led her to become a death doula and advocate for dignified end-of-life care for veterans. From building In Their Honor to leading national training through PsychArmor, she reflects on how storytelling, cultural competency, and heart-centered leadership can transform support for the military community.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:43) Meet Dr. Qwynn Galloway-Salazar

(01:51) Growing up in New York

(05:00) Choosing the Army path

(07:29) Activation and military service lessons

(11:17) Transitioning out and finding purpose

(12:33) Criminal justice, trauma, and veteran care

(21:50) Earning a PhD through adversity

(24:55) Transition advice for women veterans

(29:45) Launching In Their Honor, 2021

(30:17) Mentorship from Dr. Kate Hendricks Thomas

(32:36) Becoming a death doula for veterans

(33:49) Expanding end-of-life care impact

(36:16) Building military cultural competency at PsychArmor

(42:39) Becoming a Bush Institute Presidential Scholar

(48:43) Arlington moments that changed everything

Additional Links & Resources:

Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tangoLearn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/aboutConnect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknightConnect with Dr. Qwynn Galloway-Salazar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/qwynn-galloway-salazar-/Learn more about In Their Honor: https://www.intheirhonor.info/Learn more about PsychArmor: https://psycharmor.org/Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.comWork with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. This episode is hosted by Lloyd Knight and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/honoring-service-embracing-life-conversations-2tt1

In this special episode of Tango Tango, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Holly Joers, President, Military and Veterans for CareSource, for an inside look at one of the most important changes impacting military families this year: TRICARE Open Season and the brand-new CareSource Military & Veterans Prime option available in Atlanta and Tampa.

Holly shares her remarkable journey—from growing up in small-town West Virginia to a distinguished civil service career across the Air Force, the F-35 program, and the Defense Health Agency—before transitioning into the mission-driven world of CareSource. Her unique background offers rare insight into how healthcare innovation, military culture, and patient-centric design come together in this groundbreaking TRICARE demonstration program.

Listeners will learn:

With TRICARE Open Season ending on December 9, this episode offers timely, practical information for retirees, families, Guard and Reserve members, and veterans who want more control, choice, and convenience in their healthcare.

Additional Links & Resources:

This episode of Tango Tango was hosted by Lloyd Knight and produced by Trisha Coredes, Joshua Miranda, nd Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated episode page at: https://supplychainnow.com/mission-better-care-talk-caresource-military-1tt15

In a year defined by service, storytelling, and the power of community, Tango Tango’s first season put authentic veteran voices front and center. From Special Operations legends to storytellers preserving history, the series explored what it actually takes to translate military experience into meaningful civilian impact.

In this special Season 1 Veteran’s Day wrap-up, Supply Chain Now’s Scott Luton joins Tango Tango’s own Lloyd Knight to unpack the year: why active listening is a podcaster’s superpower, what organizations get wrong (and right) about veteran hiring, and how Season 2 will go bigger with 20 episodes and even more consequential stories.

Scott and Lloyd discuss the differences between Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and Armed Forces Day; three practical best practices for recruiting veteran talent; and highlights from standout episodes, from Pat McNamara’s raw, veteran-to-veteran conversation to Atomic Echoes, the PBS documentary that bridges U.S. servicemembers and survivors in Japan. They also preview Season 2 guests, live tapings, and crossovers with Supply Chain Now.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:38) Scott and Lloyd open the Veterans Day special

(00:52) Reflecting on their long-running friendship and work

(02:48) Best and worst chow hall stories

(09:08) Veterans Day vs. Memorial Day vs. Armed Forces Day

(12:26) Lloyd’s best practices for hiring veterans

(22:24) Lessons learned from hosting season one

(22:34) Mentorship, production support, and better listening

(24:53) Season one highlights and standout guests

(25:07) Behind the scenes of the Pat McNamara episode

(27:58) Exploring the Atomic Echoes documentary and its themes

(36:48) Season two previews and upcoming guests

(39:58) Simple, actionable ways to honor veterans

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. This episode was hosted by Scott Luton and Lloyd Knight and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/veterans-day-special-salute-tango-tango-season-1-1tt14

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes authors and filmmakers Karin Tanabe and Victoria Kelly to share the journey behind their PBS documentary Atomic Echoes. With family histories connected to both sides of World War II, Victoria’s grandfather served as a medic in Nagasaki and Karin’s grandfather was a Japanese soldier, the longtime friends uncover powerful stories of resilience, reconciliation, and hope.

They discuss how the project began, the challenges of interviewing veterans and survivors, and the intensive research required to capture voices long overlooked. From faith communities in Japan to American veterans who were never recognized for their post-war service, Atomic Echoes offers a respectful and human lens on history.

Karin and Victoria also reflect on the lessons they gained from the filmmaking process, from fundraising to finishing the project in just 11 months. More than a story about the past, their film underscores the urgent need for peace and the unifying power of storytelling today.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(02:05) Meet Victoria Kelly

(05:23) Meet Karin Tanabe

(10:45) The making of Atomic Echoes

(18:38) Challenges in finding veterans

(22:23) Veterans’ desire to share their stories

(23:19) Planting trees and symbolic acts

(25:07) Inspirational stories from the journey

(29:47) Learning from the filmmaking process

(32:23) The intersection of history and hope

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/atomic-echoes-preseving-voices-hiroshima-nagasaki-1tt13

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Army veteran, Black Hawk pilot, author, and founder of Kingdom Operatives, Adam Jones. Adam shares his inspiring journey from growing up near Mario Andretti’s hometown in Pennsylvania to fulfilling his childhood dream of flying Black Hawks in the Army National Guard, overcoming unexpected challenges, and ultimately embracing a new calling to help others.

Adam opens up about the struggles he faced balancing military life, family, and personal identity, including the moments of deep inner conflict that nearly cost his marriage and life. Through powerful mentorship and faith, he found a path to healing and transformation, leading him to write his book "Weapons of Mass Deception" and build Kingdom Operatives to equip leaders and veterans to break free from silent struggles and build resilience.

From his military experiences to his commitment to sharing his story as a message of hope, Adam offers profound insights into overcoming drift, embracing purpose, and leading with authenticity both in and out of uniform.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(04:12) Growing up in Nazareth

(10:48) Penn State, ROTC, Army National Guard

(12:39) Becoming an Army Black Hawk pilot

(21:12) Meeting wife in DC and navigating changes

(26:22) Struggles with identity and family tension

(31:41) Anger, low points, and turning toward seeking help

(37:25) Mentorship, healing, and restoring relationships

(46:44) Founding Kingdom Operatives and helping veterans overcome struggles

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/kingdom-operatives-1tt12

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Ross Dickman, CEO of Hire Heroes USA. Ross shares his journey from West Point to Army aviation, flying AH-64 Apaches with the 1st Cavalry Division, and deploying to Camp Taji, Iraq. He reflects on lessons from the cockpit, an aide-de-camp tour at the Army Safety Center, and a return to West Point as a TAC officer—experiences that shaped how he leads and how he thinks about life after service.

Now leading Hire Heroes USA, Ross focuses on employment as the foundation of post-service well-being. He talks about practical tools: clear, targeted resumes, mock interviews with real hiring managers, technology that keeps people in the process, and a push toward skills-based hiring, along with the power of partnerships and volunteers, and why providing free, lifetime career support to veterans and military spouses still drives his mission today.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:51) Ross Dickman’s background as veteran leader

(03:33) Childhood in a dedicated army family

(05:56) Overcoming challenges at West Point Academy

(12:44) Deciding on a long-term military career

(16:27) Training experiences in flight school and Apaches

(26:11) Career growth and responsibilities at Fort Hood

(30:01) West Point’s role in leadership development

(32:10) Lessons from civilian job search struggles

(37:35) Starting a career with Hire Heroes

(40:19) How Hire Heroes impacts veteran employment

(45:56) Daily leadership responsibilities at Hire Heroes

(49:09) Meeting the Secretary of Veterans Affairs

(51:25) Future goals for veteran career support

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/hire-heroes-usa-supporting-military-transition-1tt11

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Army Public Affairs Hall of Famer Gail McCabe. Gail shares her journey from working in Hollywood to becoming one of the Army’s first civilian broadcast journalists. She reflects on covering missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, including two attacks that earned her the Defense of Freedom Medal. Her stories, from tank competitions in Germany to humanitarian efforts in war zones, highlight the power of journalism to preserve history and honor sacrifice.

Now retired, Gail continues her storytelling through her company, CreativeMediaMatters. She talks about the emotional impact of covering conflict, the lessons she’s carried with her, and why helping others understand the human side of military service still drives her today.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:36) Meet Gail McCabe: A hall of famer’s journey

(01:07) Gail’s early life and love story

(02:23) From Hollywood to the Army

(05:14) Broadcast journalism and covering the military

(06:55) Covering sports and community stories

(08:41) Desert Storm and humanitarian missions

(17:16) The first defense of freedom medal

(28:44) Medical missions in remote areas

(30:56) An unexpected attack and its aftermath

(38:26) Humanitarian missions around the world

(42:41) Gail’s transition to civilian life

(52:36) Career highlights and recognitions

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/army-public-affairs-hall-fame-1tt10

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Navy veteran and entrepreneur Alex Witt, CEO of Battle Bars. From sleeping on metal grating in Iraq to building a multi-million-dollar logistics business—and walking away from it all—Alex shares the path that led him to start a mission-driven brand focused on integrity, nostalgia, and purpose.

Alex opens up about joining the Navy just before 9/11, the sense of guilt that pushed him to deploy, and the turning point that came after the tragic loss of a close friend. That heartbreak would eventually lead to a new purpose through Battle Bars, a company rooted in veteran values and a commitment to doing things differently.

From making sales calls and shipping orders himself to building partnerships with Barstool Sports and Lifetime Fitness, Alex offers powerful insights into what it takes to lead with passion, resilience, and authenticity on and off the battlefield.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:43) Chicago and Cubs fandom

(05:08) Military journey begins

(07:24) Bootcamp and 9/11 experience

(09:09) Deployment to Spain

(12:27) Transition to mobile security

(13:17) Deployment to Iraq

(17:25) Post-military career beginnings

(23:12) A life-changing tragedy

(23:59) A new path: From business to fulfillment

(25:14) The birth of Battle Bars

(26:13) Challenges and triumphs in the protein bar market

(27:43) Innovative flavors and partnerships

(35:30) Expanding the business

(37:46) Supporting veterans and future plans

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/battle-bars-alex-witt-1tt9

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, hosts Lloyd Knight and Scott W. Luton discuss workplace culture, one of the most overlooked elements of career success. From defining what culture really means to sharing hard truths about toxic environments, Lloyd draws on over 14 years of experience teaching culture to veterans and corporate teams. They talk about why many job seekers overlook culture, how leadership can affect your health, and what signs to look for when evaluating a company.

Lloyd also shares stories from his own transition from the Air Force to UPS, including how outdated policies had to evolve to attract and retain top talent. Whether you’re a veteran preparing to enter the civilian workforce or a leader trying to improve team performance, this episode offers real-world examples, personal lessons, and a powerful reminder that culture isn’t a perk, it’s a priority.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:15) Defining workplace culture

(02:59) Formal definition of workplace culture

(03:38) Implied vs. expressly defined culture

(04:07) Constructive dissatisfaction at UPS

(05:05) The impact of toxic work environments

(06:43) Advice for job seekers

(08:48) The role of recognition in employee performance

(09:42) Veteran retention in corporate america

(10:28) The impact of management on employee health

(13:14) Handling toxic work environments

(14:22) Why workplace culture matters

(16:48) Elements impacting workplace culture

(24:12) Characteristics of amazing workplace cultures

(29:26) The unique roster of guests

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/why-workplace-culture-matters-more-paycheck-1tt8

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Lacy Gunnoe, director of wellbeing at Camp Southern Ground and a fellow Air Force veteran. Lacy shares his journey from growing up in rural West Virginia to becoming a pilot and instructor in the Air Force, flying everything from the T-37 tweet to KC-135 tankers. He opens up about the challenges and rewards of military life, deployments, and the leadership lessons that shaped his path.

Lacy then takes us behind the scenes at Camp Southern Ground, a unique nonprofit founded by musician Zac Brown with a vision of inclusion and healing. He explains how the camp serves veterans and children with innovative programs rooted in wellbeing, post-traumatic growth, and community. From the sustainable facilities and organic gardens to life-changing activities and personalized support, Lacy reveals how this special place is transforming lives and helping veterans find new purpose beyond the uniform.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:10) Lacy’s upbringing in rural West Virginia

(02:00) Finding his path through ROTC and his uncle’s mentorship

(03:15) Life as a KC-135 pilot and T-37 instructor

(06:00) Deployments, camaraderie, and the tanker community

(10:50) Leaving active duty and discovering the Guard

(13:10) The decision to separate and focus on family

(14:50) Volunteering and the road to Camp Southern Ground

(17:00) Zac Brown’s vision and how the camp began

(18:45) Warrior Week and post-traumatic growth

(20:15) Holistic veteran support: career, purpose, and wellbeing

(22:00) Family Camps and connecting through play

(25:00) The camp’s design, facilities, and intentional legacy

(27:00) Culinary excellence and the healing power of food

(29:00) Garden therapy and organic nutrition

(31:00) Rebuilding trust, identity, and purpose post-service

(34:30) Real-life impact and stories of transformation

(37:00) How to support Camp Southern Ground

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/camp-southern-ground-1tt7

In this episode of Tango Tango, Scott Luton and Lloyd Knight explore the importance of personal branding for job seekers, veterans transitioning into civilian careers, and professionals aiming to boost their visibility. Whether you’re new to the job market, or looking to stand out at a job fair, personal branding is a crucial tool to differentiate yourself from the competition.

They talk about how personal branding helps you stand out in a crowded job market and establishes credibility and trust with potential employers. From perfecting your elevator pitch to managing your LinkedIn profile, Lloyd provides practical tips on how to make a lasting impression.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:10) The importance of personal branding

(01:30) Transitioning from military to civilian careers

(03:39) Key elements of personal branding

(04:45) Standing out in job applications

(07:43) The role of online presence

(09:33) Defining your personal brand

(14:03) Three key tips for personal branding

(21:25) The power of storytelling

(23:57) Upcoming live podcasts and engagement

(28:51) The origins of Tango Tango

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/top-tips-personal-branding-1tt6

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Steve Prince, a U.S. Army veteran and founder of Warrior Set Free. Steve takes us through his deeply personal journey from his struggles with discipline in his early years to his transformative experiences in the military and the profound lessons he's learned along the way.

Steve reflects on his path to joining the Army, driven by a need for discipline, college funding, and a desire to belong to something meaningful. He shares the pain of growing up without a father, whose suicide when Steve was five left a lasting impact. This loss shaped his life and drove him to the military, where he would face trials and triumphs alike.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:50) Steve Prince and his life’s journey

(08:24) Challenges and forgiveness

(10:32) Career setbacks and lessons learned

(17:12) Transition to civilian life and ministry

(24:45) Introduction to warrior freedom appointments

(25:05) Presenting the gospel

(26:49) Confession, repentance, and forgiveness

(29:08) The freedom appointment experience

(31:49) Warrior's battle and hero's return

(34:46) Personal stories and testimonials

(38:36) Reflection and future plans

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/from-soldier-healer-warriors-set-free-1tt5

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes retired four-star General John Handy, former Commander of U.S. Transportation Command and Air Mobility Command. With a career that spanned nearly four decades, General Handy shares his journey from humble beginnings in Raleigh, North Carolina, to becoming one of the highest-ranking leaders in the U.S. Air Force.

General Handy opens up about how a love for aviation shaped his path, the life-altering crash that rerouted his early career, and the leadership lessons forged in Vietnam and beyond. He reflects on the value of mentorship, the meaning of service, and why every day is a blessing. From flying the C-130 to commanding global logistics operations post-9/11, Handy’s story is one of grit, humility, and lifelong purpose.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(02:00) Early life and education

(07:15) Joining the Air Force

(18:18) Vietnam war experiences

(23:52) Post-Vietnam assignments

(28:01) New Zealand exchange program

(35:52) Transition to programming and logistics

(36:48) Assignment at Ryan Mine

(38:43) Charleston and strategic airlift

(44:07) Pentagon assignments and promotions

(50:25) Dual roles at Scott Air Force Base

(58:18) Retirement and civilian career

(01:09:50) Reflections and personal interests

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/cargo-pilot-four-star-general-1tt4

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Pat McNamara, a retired Delta Force operator, small business owner, creator of Basic Dude Stuff, and the ultimate champion of resilience. Mac opens up about his journey from elite military operations to navigating darkness after service, revealing the deeply personal story behind his second lease on life.

Listeners get a raw look at the highs and lows of Pat’s career, from failing Special Forces training to becoming one of the top performers in Delta. But the most gripping moments come after the battlefield, when he’s living in a bonus room above his garage, caring for his kids, and battling depression and burnout. It was a moment with his son and a screech owl that sparked the turnaround, and a single run that helped him remember who he was.

This isn’t just a story about combat. It’s a story of fatherhood, recovery, discipline, and the choice to grow. From surviving a towed parachute jump to creating a children’s show rooted in curiosity and wonder, Pat’s journey is a lesson in how warriors heal, rebuild, and give back.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:16) Meeting Rebecca and getting a second lease on life

(04:25) Growing up in Connecticut and love for the outdoors

(06:24) Wrestling, discipline, and turning around high school

(09:02) Joining the Army and choosing Special Forces

(10:30) The Q Course and failing first phase

(14:00) Training in weapons and unconventional warfare

(17:02) Parachute school and surviving a towed jump injury

(23:18) Returning to training and pushing through setbacks

(27:00) Spying on the Soviet army during the Cold War

(30:42) Trying out for Delta and breaking his ankle

(33:30) Leveling up and self-governance in Delta

(36:00) Missions in Bosnia and the mindset of preparation

(39:43) Retiring to care for his kids

(41:00) Transitioning, depression, and personal breakdown

(44:00) The turning point with his son and a screech owl

(46:21) Reclaiming discipline with a 6AM run

(50:00) Cop's life-changing advice and moving forward

(52:00) Reconnecting with Rebecca

(53:15) Battling chronic illness and finding natural healing

(57:30) Why Mac embraced social media and stayed authentic

(58:50) Creating Basic Dude Stuff and building a kids' show

(01:02:30) Inspiring kids through curiosity and nature

(01:07:32) Muscle cars, craftsmanship, and honoring legacy

(01:13:23) Building a multifaceted business post-military

(01:16:03) Invader Coffee and the power of quality over gimmicks

(01:17:22) Mac’s advice for struggling veterans

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/delta-force-world-wonder-1tt3

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with retired Army Colonel John Thompson, a veteran Night Stalker and one of the mission leads behind the historic raid that killed Osama Bin Laden. John takes listeners deep inside the operations of Task Force 160, the U.S. Army’s elite special operations aviation unit, sharing the mindset, logistics, and extraordinary preparation that went into one of the most consequential missions in modern history.

John also opens up about his upbringing as a Gold Star son, his roots in Georgia, and how a letter from his late father shaped the path of a 30-year military career. From a busted wrist before flight school to leading elite helicopter assault teams in Desert Storm, Iraq, Afghanistan, and ultimately Abbottabad—John’s journey is a testament to grit, humility, and excellence under pressure.

This episode isn’t just about one mission. It’s about the decades of leadership, sacrifice, and quiet service that made that mission possible.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:16) John Thompson's background and early life

(02:34) Military career beginnings

(07:45) Flight school challenges and experiences

(18:26) Deployment to Germany and Desert Storm

(26:52) Return to Germany and Fort Knox assignment

(30:07) Transition to Fort Campbell

(34:06) Special Operations recruitment

(36:05) Joining the Night Stalkers

(38:15) The unique nature of Special Operations Forces

(38:50) Introduction to the Little Bird helicopter

(39:43) The Night Stalkers and their night missions

(40:34) Career path leading to the Bin Laden raid

(42:25) Commanding in Iraq and Afghanistan

(51:40) The call from Admiral McRaven

(53:04) Planning the Bin Laden mission

(01:04:18) Executing the mission

(01:13:37) Challenges during the raid

(01:17:25) Aftermath and celebrations

(01:19:41) Returning home and reflections

Additional Links & Resources:

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/night-stalkers-bin-laden-raid-1tt2

In this inaugural episode of the Tango Tango podcast, proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now, Scott Luton and Lloyd Knight kick off a new chapter in veteran storytelling by exploring the evolution from Veteran Voices to Tango Tango. The mission remains the same—amplifying veteran perspectives, experiences, and leadership—but the format and energy get a bold refresh.

Lloyd shares his inspiring journey from a 20-year career in the U.S. Air Force to his current role leading veteran talent acquisition and retention at UPS, one of the largest veteran employers in the world. He reflects on how his experiences as a loadmaster, first sergeant, and logistics innovator shaped his leadership approach, both in service and in corporate America.

The episode also digs into Lloyd’s founding of VETLANTA, an award-winning collaboration hub uniting veteran-focused business resource groups across Atlanta, and the creation of his book and platform, Knight Work. Lloyd and Scott discuss the power of culture, community, and honest conversations—and why Lloyd chose “Tango Tango” as the perfect name for this new era in veteran advocacy media.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:38) Transitioning Veteran Voices to Tango Tango

(14:58) Lloyd's military career

(26:55) Transition to civilian life

(35:16) Balancing career and personal life

(35:34) Starting the Veterans Business Resource Group

(36:12) Special assignments and awards

(36:51) Current role in veteran talent acquisition

(40:09) Founding VETLANTA

(41:20) Challenges and successes of Vetlanta

(51:07) Future plans and personal life

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This episode was hosted by Scott Luton and Lloyd Knight and produced by Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/introducing-tango-tango-real-talk-real-veterans-1tt1