West of Everest: An Oklahoma Football Podcast

Ep. 447 - What if OU Wins Out? + South Carolina Preview As OU enters game 8, the guys take stock of a Sooners defense that remains very good , but has clearly taken a step back from last season. Why isn’t Brent Venables’ defense forcing more turnovers, what happened to the dominant run defense and pass rush, and are opposing offenses simply playing differently against OU? The guys also answer a listener question: what would it actually mean if OU wins out and finishes 9-3? The South Carolina preview includes the latest injury report (hopefully Peyton Bowen can play!), the importance of Michael Fasusi and whether John Mateer can put together another turnover-free performance. The Sooners should have a path to win at home, but nothing is predictable with this team. They finish with a look at the national scene and weekly picks against the spread. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take: Why isn’t OU’s defense forcing more turnovers?05:02 — Are opponents changing how they attack Brent Venables?09:10 — Revisiting our preseason defensive predictions14:20 — How far has Oklahoma’s run defense fallen?16:19 — Is OU’s defense actually elite this season?20:58 — Listener question: What if Oklahoma wins out?25:34 — Would a 9-3 finish prove the offense actually improved?27:23 — Sustainable success vs. another defense-driven run29:44 — Are expectations being lowered under Brent Venables?34:19 — Is Venables searching for his “head coach of offense”?42:30 — Oklahoma-South Carolina preview begins43:24 — Injury report: Peyton Bowen and other key Sooners54:34 — Breaking down LaNorris Sellers and South Carolina’s offense57:50 — Can OU’s offense build on Mississippi State?1:00:26 — The simplest key: John Mateer must protect the football1:01:16 — Should Oklahoma beat South Carolina?1:05:47 — How Grant sees the game playing out1:11:03 — Around college football1:24:04 — Weekly picks against the spread Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast.

Ep. 446 - Mateer’s Best Game at OU? Sooners Beat Mississippi State OU’s back in the win column and the offense actually looked pretty good for a full game. Lee and Grant break down John Mateer’s best performance as OU’s quarterback, the season-high 467 yards, a much-improved running game and whether Ben Arbuckle finally found a version of the offense that can work. The guys also discuss the impact of Michael Fasusi’s return at left tackle, strong performances from Isaiah Sategna, Rocky Beers, Tory Blaylock and Lloyd Avant, and the dramatic difference between Mateer’s conservative first half and much more aggressive second half. They also debate the controversial Beers no-touchdown call and why Oklahoma still failed to turn a dominant statistical performance into a comfortable blowout. The defense was great again, OU dominated, but still only won by 8 points. Plus, listener three-word reviews, Tate Sandell’s rough day, Oklahoma’s bizarre win-loss pattern and an early look toward South Carolina. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — OU beats Mississippi State 23-1505:21 — Was this John Mateer’s best game at Oklahoma?07:06 — A tale of two halves for Mateer and the offense10:13 — Oklahoma finally establishes a running game11:07 — Michael Fasusi’s return changes the offensive line15:59 — Mateer’s first-half vs. second-half numbers20:14 — OU dominated, so why was the game still close?24:39 — Is there finally something for the offense to build on?29:23 — Isaiah Sategna, Rocky Beers and OU’s top pass catchers30:06 — Was Rocky Beers’ end-zone play actually a touchdown?38:30 — Defensive standouts against Mississippi State45:20 — Three-word reviews and what the win really means53:17 — What’s going on with Tate Sandell?55:44 — Is Oklahoma’s defense still elite?1:04:03 — OU’s bizarre win-loss-win-loss streak1:05:19 — Early look at South Carolina1:09:05 — Could Oklahoma still reach the SEC Championship Game?1:26:10 — Final thoughts and looking ahead Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast.

Ep. 445 - What Would It Take To Bench John Mateer? + Mississippi State Preview What does it mean to remain invested in Oklahoma football when you no longer believe in the people leading the program? Grant tackles that question in his opening take. Then Lee and Grant turn to Oklahoma’s broken offense. John Mateer will remain the starting quarterback against Mississippi State, we hear from Ben Arbuckle and would making a change actually matter? The guys also react to Arbuckle’s explanation for why Ryan Fodje remained on the field for many snaps after injuring his foot against Kentucky. What does this say about the coordination and leadership of Oklahoma’s offense. Then it’s a preview of OU-Mississippi State, including the uncertain status of Bulldogs quarterback Kamario Taylor, Oklahoma’s depleted offensive line, what the defense needs to do and whether the Sooners can simply avoid enough mistakes to win in Starkville. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take: What happens when a fan stops believing?05:50 — Brent Venables misses the weekly press conference06:58 — Ben Arbuckle explains why Mateer is still QB109:29 — Why a quarterback change probably won’t fix OU11:01 — The strongest argument for trying Whit Neubauer11:52 — Do you trust OU’s quarterback evaluation?15:15 — Should Ben Arbuckle be worried about his job?18:07 — What if Whit Neubauer actually looked better?19:02 — Comparing Oklahoma’s QB situation with Texas20:34 — What would it take to bench Mateer?21:56 — Ben Arbuckle explains why Fodje stayed in the game22:41 — Grant: the Fodje situation symbolizes the bigger problem23:28 — Why Arbuckle’s explanation is a bad look 27:01 — Leadership and communication breakdowns 29:42 — Oklahoma’s offensive-line outlook vs. Mississippi State30:09 — Could Michael Fasusi finally return?31:10 — What OU’s offensive line may look like34:30 — Oklahoma-Mississippi State preview begins35:16 — Will Kamario Taylor play?39:05 — Why OU should win if Mississippi State starts its backup QB40:31 — How Venables may defend Jeff Lebby’s offense41:38 — What Oklahoma’s defense needs to show42:56 — Can OU generate more organic pass rush?45:20 — What Oklahoma’s offense needs to show45:30 — Can OU simply finish drives and avoid turnovers?46:39 — Breaking down Mississippi State’s defense47:46 — The simple formula: don’t turn it over48:10 — Score prediction discussion51:18 — Weekly picks against the spread52:20 — Indiana at Michigan, Tennessee-SC, Iowa-Minn, Ole Miss-Texas59:16 — USC at Wisconsin1:00:14 — Picks recap1:00:49 — Final thoughts on Starkville Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast.

Ep. 444 - OU Flops Following Texas Win, Loses to Kentucky at Home OU followed its emotional win over Texas with a 21-13 home loss to Kentucky, falling to 3-3 overall and effectively ending any realistic College Football Playoff hopes. Despite showing signs of life early, OU’s offense reverted back to their usual selves when it mattered most. The guys also examine the larger coaching picture. Kentucky looked like the more buttoned-up team under first-year head coach Will Stein, while Oklahoma continues to struggle with many of the same problems that have followed Brent Venables throughout his tenure. They discuss Venables’ newly revealed buyout, why the recent contract extension matters so much and whether Oklahoma has financially boxed itself into a difficult spot. Plus, Lee & Grant talk about Ryan Fodje’s injury and what all went into that sequence of events. Stick around for listener “3-word reviews”. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — OU loses and the same problems keep showing up 03:17 — Grant’s first reaction to the loss 08:22 — Why coaching makes players look better or worse10:27 — Mateer was playing well — until the interception 14:23 — Mateer’s turnover problem in perspective 18:37 — Venables’ contract extension and the bigger picture21:23 — Why we thought Oklahoma would beat Kentucky22:48 — OU’s turnover numbers are among the worst in college football26:30 — Venables’ $51.67 million buyout30:23 — Can Venables ever fix the offense? 34:35 — The Ryan Fodje injury situation was crazy40:59 — Reconstructing the Fodje timeline44:49 — The Mateer turnover changes everything46:36 — Why was Fodje still on the field?56:03 — Kentucky scores only 14 offensive points and still wins56:41 — Three-word reviews begin59:27 — “Numb to losses” and more fan reaction1:00:54 — Should OU just eat the buyout now?1:02:00 — Can a new offensive staff actually save this? 1:04:26 — Venables’ postgame explanation of the Fodje situation1:07:10 — More fan reaction: “John Blake bad”1:08:20 — Revisiting the fake field goal1:10:29 — Injuries and another frustrating pattern1:12:38 — What expectations should be for the rest of the season1:13:14 — Kentucky’s rebuild makes OU’s situation look worse Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast.

Ep. 443 - Did Beating Texas Save OU’s Season? + Kentucky Preview Did OU’s emotional 27-24 win over Texas change the direction of the Sooners’ season? Lee and Grant run through several reasons for optimism, followed by realistic reasons why it’s fair to be skeptical. What expectations should we have for OU over the final seven games? Then it’s a full Oklahoma-Kentucky preview. The guys break down the latest injury report, Will Stein’s Kentucky offense, Kenny Minchey, Kentucky’s offensive line, OU’s matchup advantages on defense and whether Ben Arbuckle can finally get more out of Oklahoma’s offense against one of the weaker defenses the Sooners have faced. The show closes with score predictions and the weekly college football picks against the spread. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take: Did beating Texas save Oklahoma’s season? 07:15 — Did beating Texas prove OU can beat anybody?11:11 — Did OU finally find something in the run game?11:28 — Mateer: OU is 5-1 when he doesn’t turn it over13:13 — The biggest reason for optimism: the remaining schedule17:04 — Why an unranked OU is favored over No. 15 Kentucky18:12 — Peyton Bowen’s leadership: meaningful or overrated?20:06 — Oklahoma’s defense remains the biggest reason for hope24:18 — Can OU repeat last year’s backs-against-the-wall run? 30:05 — Oklahoma has the worst offense in the Power Four33:20 — One Mateer turnover changes everything34:22 — The difficult offenses still ahead on OU’s schedule36:00 — What should Oklahoma’s expectations be now?41:05 — Oklahoma-Kentucky preview begins42:18 — Latest OU injury report43:14 — Eli Bowen, Michael Fasusi and offensive-line concerns45:36 — How injuries could reshape Oklahoma’s lineup49:00 — Breaking down Kentucky’s offense54:19 — Why Kentucky’s offense knows exactly what it wants to be55:25 — Is Kentucky’s offensive line really the best OU has faced?59:58 — Kentucky’s creative use of tight ends1:04:00 — How Will Stein schemes easy throws1:08:10 — Kenny Minchey’s strengths and limitations1:09:43 — Can OU’s offense take advantage of Kentucky’s defense?1:13:54 — What OU’s defense must do against Kentucky1:15:16 — Third downs and Oklahoma’s pass defense1:16:49 — What OU’s offense needs to show 1:18:59 — Oklahoma-Kentucky score predictions1:22:57 — Around college football1:27:59 — Ohio State at Indiana1:29:26 — Alabama at Tennessee1:30:58 — Missouri at Ole Miss1:34:00 — Wisconsin at UCLA1:35:49 — Nebraska at Oregon Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast.

Ep. 442 - OU Shocks No. 1 Texas on Sandell's Walk-Off Field Goal Oklahoma stunned No. 1 Texas 27-24 in the Cotton Bowl, and Lee and Grant break down how the Sooners found the narrow path to a massive Red River win. The guys evaluate John Mateer’s performance and whether Ben Arbuckle may finally be finding a more manageable formula for the OU offense. They also dig into Lloyd Avant’s breakout third quarter. On defense, Oklahoma made Arch Manning uncomfortable, forced seven three-and-outs and got major performances from Peyton Bowen, Courtland Guillory, Tristan Haynes, David Stone and others. The guys also read your “3-word reviews”! Chapters/Timecodes 01:40 — Grant begins the Texas victory lap03:03 — Texas blinked under the bright lights07:49 — Oklahoma followed the exact upset recipe09:42 — OU finally finds something in the run game11:09 — Why OU made the winning plays and Texas didn’t12:13 — John Mateer: not great, but good enough18:17 — OU finally gets some turnover luck19:27 — Courtland Guillory’s interception and Venables’ pressure call20:12 — Trystan Haynes shines in a huge spot22:59 — OU finally makes Arch Manning uncomfortable23:35 — Seven three-and-outs from the Oklahoma defense25:23 — Lloyd Avant and the third-quarter run-game breakthrough29:18 — Can Oklahoma build on the running game?34:00 — The new offensive formula: just manage the game34:57 — David Stone continues his breakout36:18 — Jayden Jackson and OU’s defensive front39:36 — Owen Heinecke, Danny Okoye and defensive standouts42:09 — Was Texas finally due to lay an egg?49:10 — Three-word reviews begin49:59 — The frustrating side of the John Mateer experience51:48 — Arbuckle’s play-calling and the failed trick play56:03 — Peyton Bowen talks about the pick-six57:22 — Tate Sandell’s walk-off field goal1:00:04 — More three-word reviews: Sategna, Avant and the heroes1:01:03 — Did this win change Oklahoma’s season?1:05:21 — How strong is the SEC this season?1:07:26 — Is there an elite team in college football this year?1:10:33 — More fan reaction: Golden Hat back1:12:25 — Celebrate now, but skepticism remains1:12:53 — Why Kentucky still matters enormously1:18:27 — Should Sark have kicked the late field goal?1:23:01 — Sategna’s final catch and the OU sideline reaction1:25:26 — Closing thoughts: enjoy beating Texas Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast.

Ep. 441 - Does OU’s Season Hinge on What Happens vs. Texas? Oklahoma needs a win to change the direction of its season. Lee and Grant break down whether the Sooners have a realistic path to upsetting No. 1 Texas. The guys also react to Brent Venables’ strong comments about the instability and development problems inside the offensive line room. Has the time finally come for a change with Bill Bedenbaugh? Then it’s a full OU-Texas preview: the latest SEC injury report, Arch Manning and the Texas offense, Oklahoma’s only realistic upset formula, whether Texas is truly as vulnerable as its raw offensive numbers suggest, and score predictions. The show closes with a look around college football and the weekly picks against the spread. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take: Is Texas the most beatable No. 1 team in years?02:40 — OU-Texas week: the greatest atmosphere in college football04:09 — Lee and Grant’s favorite Red River memories05:43 — Could 2009 provide the blueprint for this year?07:48 — OU-Texas history and why this rivalry is so unpredictable10:49 — Why Texas usually brings its best against Oklahoma14:13 — The one thing Texas hasn’t done poorly in this rivalry16:38 — Brent Venables’ comments on the offensive line18:54 — Was Venables calling out Bill Bedenbaugh?27:17 — OU’s last elite high-school-developed offensive lineman31:15 — Comparing OU’s offensive line development to Texas33:03 — Oklahoma’s recent O-line recruiting misses36:34 — Is this the beginning of the end for Bedenbaugh at OU?38:18 — Final thoughts on the offensive line40:15 — OU-Texas preview begins40:52 — SEC injury report: who’s out for Oklahoma?50:13 — The upset formula: shorten the game and protect the football52:49 — If Mateer avoids turnovers, can OU win?53:43 — Can Venables finally get the better of Sark? 1:04:40 — OU’s defense vs. Texas’ offense1:06:15 — What Oklahoma needs from both sides of the ball1:08:24 — Could this game change the rest of OU’s season?1:13:39 — Score predictions: can Oklahoma keep it close?1:16:07 — Who has more pressure: Oklahoma or Texas?1:17:37 — Final OU-Texas picks1:18:45 — Around college football1:22:22 — Iowa-Washington and other national games1:29:47 — Texas A&M at Missouri1:32:14 — Indiana at Nebraska1:35:00 — UCLA at Oregon1:37:00 — USC at Penn State1:38:19 — Georgia at Alabama Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast.

Ep. 440 - OU Fans Still Support Brent Venables. But for How Long? Even after OU’s 2-2 start, a new fan survey says that more than 60% of Oklahoma fans still do not want a change at head coach. Lee and Grant react to the poll, compare it with the West of Everest audience results and discuss whether expectations around Oklahoma football have changed under Brent Venables. Should Oklahoma stick with John Mateer, or is it time to see what Whitt Newbauer can do? Later, Lee and Grant answer a Spotify listener question about possible future offensive coordinators, react to the huge response to Grant’s OU coaching hot board. The show closes with a look around college football and this week’s picks against the spread. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take - OU fan polls reveal two very different views of Brent Venables04:05 — More than 62% of fans still don’t want a coaching change08:48 — West of Everest poll: 53% checked out on the Venables era10:50 — Have Oklahoma’s standards changed?15:37 — 72% want a quarterback change21:39 — The best argument for trying Newbauer23:39 — What do you actually want from Oklahoma football?24:49 — Venables says John Mateer is still QB130:00 — Everest Club update and listener engagement31:55 — Listener question: Chip Kelly or Hue Jackson at OC?33:16 — If Venables stays, does the entire offensive staff have to go?37:28 — Making the playoff should be the expectation at Oklahoma39:21 — Grant’s coaching hot board blew up on YouTube41:05 — Viewer reactions to the coaching hot board41:26 — Is it time to move on from Bill Bedenbaugh?43:20 — New OC, new O-line coach — or a full offensive reset?45:23 — Why some fans still aren’t ready to move on from Venables47:24 — “One more chance” for Venables?48:00 — Is hiring great assistants the most important head-coach skill?51:55 — More coaching candidates: Kalani Sitake, Jamie Chadwell and others52:43 — Grant adds Blake Baker to the hot board53:32 — Jim Harbaugh? Make the call anyway58:41 — Does Venables get too much benefit of the doubt?59:57 — The bigger concern: Oklahoma’s administration1:02:08 — Buster Faulkner rises on Grant’s coaching hot board1:03:07 — Jon Gruden? Absolutely not1:04:41 — Around college football and Lee wants no part of James Franklin1:07:04 — Miami-Clemson and the Week 5 slate1:09:08 — Last week’s picks and Lincoln Riley fallout1:13:31 — Alabama at Mississippi State1:17:10 — Missouri vs. Florida1:19:13 — Minnesota vs. Michigan1:21:37 — Iowa vs. Ohio State1:24:29 — Washington at USC1:26:42 — Picks recap Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast.

Ep. 439 - Georgia Blows Out OU. Where Do We Go From Here? Oklahoma is 2-2 after a 41-13 loss at Georgia, and Lee and Grant break down another disastrous offensive performance for the Sooners. John Mateer committed three turnovers and made several game-changing mistakes, but the problems go far beyond the quarterback. The guys discuss whether benching Mateer would actually solve anything, Ben Arbuckle’s role in the offensive failures, Oklahoma’s quarterback evaluation and development issues, and why the same problems continue to surface under Brent Venables. They also revisit Venables’ recent contract extension, the expectations for Oklahoma football and whether the people responsible for the program’s biggest decisions can be trusted if another coaching change eventually becomes necessary. The guys also read your “3-word reviews”.   Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Georgia exposes the same problems of the Venables era 04:35 — John Mateer’s catastrophic mistakes 08:55 — Grant: the entire offensive culture is rotten09:26 — Should Oklahoma bench John Mateer?10:08 — OU’s history after starting 2-212:00 — Where can this season realistically go?14:32 — Offensive line injuries and another major disappointment16:50 — Has apathy started to set in again?20:13 — Are 8-4 and 9-3 expectations already too low for Oklahoma?20:49 — Why the latest contract extension matters so much24:23 — Can Oklahoma’s leadership be trusted with the next hire?25:34 — What should the standard be for Oklahoma football?28:17 — Roger Denny and the Brent Venables extension31:20 — A few positives from the Georgia loss31:36 — David Stone surprisingly plays and looks healthy32:30 — Kip Lewis stands out against Georgia34:10 — Film room: breaking down Georgia’s explosive touchdown pass39:19 — Oklahoma has become Lincoln Riley-era OU in reverse41:42 — Looking ahead to Texas43:45 — Mateer showed flashes despite the turnovers46:04 — Could the offense improve against weaker defenses?49:04 — Three-word reviews begin50:13 — Has Venables turned OU into a “laughing stock”?51:52 — Is Ben Arbuckle gone after this season?52:19 — Venables closes in on Gary Gibbs’ loss total54:34 — “Pay the buyout” and Nebraska comparisons55:33 — NIL spending and Oklahoma’s roster problems56:57 — Who could play quarterback for OU next season?59:47 — Financial questions around the program01:05:42 — The human side of Mateer, Arbuckle and Venables struggling01:08:04 — Oklahoma isn’t the only major program struggling01:09:37 — “It’s a circus”01:11:04 — “I am done” and “extend him again”01:13:15 — Watching other fan bases have fun again01:14:27 — Everest Club reaches its first two members01:16:12 — Plans for the bye-week episode Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook.

Ep. 438 - What Would it Take For OU to Shock Georgia? Lee and Grant open the show by discussing the latest David Stone injury news, the conflicting reports surrounding how he was injured, and what his availability could mean for an already banged-up Oklahoma defense. Then the conversation turns back to OU’s offensive problems, including missed assignments, poor execution and questions about how well Ben Arbuckle, Bill Bedenbaugh, Kevin Wilson and the rest of the offensive staff are fitting together. Then the guys break down OU’s path to victory as a 14-point dog at Georgia. Finally, Grant answers a listener question about who Oklahoma should consider if it eventually moved on from Brent Venables? The show closes with OU-Georgia score predictions and the weekly college football picks against the spread. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Another OU injury and a trip to No. 2 Georgia02:02 — David Stone injury news and conflicting reports 08:14 — John Hoover’s report and clarification12:49 — What is Oklahoma’s path to upsetting Georgia?13:29 — West of Everest launches the Everest Club on YouTube16:22 — OU-Georgia preview begins17:06 — What Georgia has done well through three games18:36 — Can Oklahoma stop Georgia’s run game?19:28 — The upset formula: turnovers, defense and shortening the game20:31 — OU desperately needs takeaways 24:52 — Could OU’s offense somehow match up better with Georgia?25:32 — Venables points out busted tight end blocks against New Mexico27:58 — Does Oklahoma’s offensive staff have too many cooks?30:53 — What exactly is Kevin Wilson’s role?31:33 — Remember when OU had “no chance” against Alabama?33:19 — John Mateer vs. Arch Manning comparisons34:55 — What Lee wants to see from OU’s defense36:27 — Grant’s defensive key: make Gunner Stockton uncomfortable38:51 — Oklahoma is a rare two-touchdown underdog 43:44 — What does Oklahoma need from the offense?46:35 — Grant wants to see 2024 John Mateer again48:38 — OU-Georgia score predictions50:09 — Listener question: if Venables is out, who replaces him?51:58 — The dream-candidate tier54:34 — Coordinator candidates for Oklahoma 57:56 — Grant’s head-coaching candidate list begins 01:03:24 — Grant’s top four candidates 01:09:25 — Weekly college football picks begin01:09:43 — Texas at Tennessee01:11:16 — Ole Miss at Florida01:12:10 — Michigan at Iowa01:13:38 — Oregon at USC01:14:11 — Missouri at Mississippi State01:15:48 — Picks recap Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook.

Ep. 437 - OU Wins, But This All Feels Way Too Familiar The guys are back after OU tops New Mexico 14-6. Although the Sooners just played a game, the most interesting topic is OU’s future. What happens next? Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — OU survives New Mexico 14-6, but the offense sputters again01:09 — Grant reaches his breaking point with the Brent Venables era02:02 — What would it take to hit the “eject button” on this regime?03:07 — The Michigan loss exposed the offseason optimism04:03 — New Mexico’s undersized defense still controlled OU’s offense04:30 — Grant: “I’m out” on the current Oklahoma regime05:02 — Revisiting the frustration of the 2024 season06:07 — Why OU’s offense still looks broken06:45 — Tight ends and offensive line fail to create a run game08:03 — The SEC schedule will expose every offensive weakness08:46 — OU returns to 12 personnel but still can’t execute09:40 — Has John Mateer actually gotten worse?10:15 — Grant: Oklahoma doesn’t understand its offensive problems11:09 — OU’s running back room has no punch11:38 — Is Bill Bedenbaugh’s offensive line room the biggest disappointment?12:00 — Grant: changing one offensive coach won’t fix this12:45 — Questions about Oklahoma’s leadership and future hires13:29 — OU’s reported roster spending raises another red flag14:29 — Why did Oklahoma extend Brent Venables?15:29 — Venables admits there’s nothing to hang your hat on offensively15:51 — Why didn’t the staff see the offensive problems coming?17:11 — The danger of buying into offseason optimism17:33 — Could OU miss a bowl game?17:51 — “Mediocrity is a choice”18:18 — Grant: the program is “rotten to the core”18:34 — OU’s defense looks elite while the offense sinks again19:07 — Oklahoma’s brutal remaining schedule19:50 — Grant plants his flag: Venables isn’t taking OU where it wants to go20:13 — What would college football fans outside Oklahoma think of this program?21:22 — Oklahoma is back to being one-sided — just reversed from Lincoln Riley22:10 — Why are we talking about the future of the program before Georgia week?22:52 — Grant explains his breaking point during the New Mexico game23:20 — ESPN’s incorrect timeout graphic changes the end-of-half discussion24:19 — Jonathan Hatton and OU’s lack of juice at running back25:23 — Three-word reviews begin26:16 — Michael Hawkins is thriving at West Virginia — and coaching matters27:16 — Peyton Bowen’s dropped interceptions and OU’s takeaway problem28:14 — More listener reactions: “2024. Not again.”28:39 — Could Jason Eck eventually become an OU coaching candidate?29:27 — Could Oklahoma actually fire Venables after extending him?30:33 — The defense may have to carry the entire season31:01 — Could a strong defense save a mediocre season?31:40 — David Stone finally flashes dominance32:12 — OU still doesn’t have the offensive athletes other SEC teams have33:12 — Programming note and Georgia preview schedule34:02 — The Venables extension looks increasingly unnecessary34:37 — How much influence does Joe Harroz have over Oklahoma football?35:51 — What could the Venables buyout look like?36:39 — Looking ahead: Georgia week becomes a bigger-picture program discussion37:09 — Closing thoughts Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook.

Ep. 436 - John Mateer Is Who He Is. Can OU Make It Work? Lee and Grant go back through the Michigan game and take a closer look at the Mateer-Ben Arbuckle dynamic. They also revisit Oklahoma’s offensive identity, the dramatic shift away from the Week 1 approach against UTEP, the use of 12 personnel and empty formations, Mateer’s field vision, the lack of a consistent run game and whether OU truly understands what it is offensively. Trell Harris is expected to miss significant time after suffering a serious injury. Kip Lewis could also miss several weeks, creating another major concern on the defensive side. Lee and Grant also discuss Oklahoma’s defense, why missed tackles and players trying to do too much remain a problem, and whether the pressure of carrying an inconsistent offense is already affecting that side of the ball. Then it’s on to New Mexico. The Lobos are one of the more interesting G6 teams in the country. NM is well coached and experienced, and should provide a useful test for an Oklahoma team trying to get back on track. The guys also make their weekly college football picks against the spread. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take – John Mateer is who he is06:59 — Michigan rewatch: how much blame belongs on Arbuckle vs. Mateer?07:26 — Mateer misses an easy timing throw to Trell Harris08:29 — The quarterback counter Mateer could have broken for a huge gain09:39 — Hayden Hansen throwback was there, but Mateer could not complete it10:09 — Empty 12 personnel creates a QB-run opportunity Mateer misses10:47 — The fourth-and-7 miss to Rocky Beers11:28 — Were Oklahoma’s receivers really “wide open”?12:38 — The bigger question: how does Arbuckle simplify things for Mateer?16:21 — Grant: Arbuckle can draw up plays, but he has to know his personnel18:03 — Did Oklahoma’s staff misunderstand its own offense?19:11 — Mateer will still have good moments, but the Michigan performance was alarming19:56 — Mateer needs his confidence rebuilt20:34 — Ben Arbuckle’s offenses have never consistently run the ball well24:24 — How many first reads is Mateer simply not seeing?29:01 — Elijah Thomas and Parker Livingston now need bigger roles 33:45 — Michigan’s seven-minute drive that quietly helped win the game36:23 — Is OU’s defense pressing because it does not trust the offense?39:05 — Is another “season from hell” developing for Oklahoma?39:31 — Grant: Venables’ history of responding to adversity is mixed41:59 — New Mexico is a legitimate G6 test under Jason Eck42:52 — Could Oklahoma actually lose this game if the Michigan problems remain? 46:26 — How Oklahoma wins matters more than simply winning46:46 — Grant: run the core offense until OU actually gets good at it47:23 — New Mexico’s experienced defense presents a useful test 48:31 — OU’s defense should dominate New Mexico’s offense49:38 — New Mexico’s three-quarterback rotation50:42 — Jason Eck’s rise from the FCS ranks53:18 — New Mexico has created takeaways; Oklahoma has not54:01 — What Grant wants to see from OU’s offense54:17 — Lee wants a return to the UTEP offensive blueprint54:55 — Arbuckle needs to create easy completions for Mateer55:11 — Defensive key: stop trying to do too much55:37 — Grant’s defensive priority: tackle better56:22 — OU-New Mexico score predictions 59:32 — What would a convincing win mean before Georgia?01:00:33 — Early look at how big an underdog OU could be at Georgia01:01:03 — Around college football: SEC and national games to watch01:02:11 — Michael Hawkins and West Virginia hit the road at Virginia01:02:27 — James Franklin discussion01:03:14 — Weekly picks against the spread begin01:03:36 — Houston at Texas Tech01:05:39 — SMU at Louisville01:06:42 — Mississippi State at South Carolina01:08:50 — Florida at Auburn01:09:55 — LSU at Ole Miss01:12:09 — Back to Mateer’s running ability and field vision01:13:30 — Does Mateer need an eye exam? Jameis Winston tangent01:14:56 — New Mexico postgame podcast scheduling update Subscribe to the West of E

Ep. 435 - OU’s Offense Fails in 17-10 Loss at Michigan Oklahoma went to Ann Arbor with a chance to make a national statement. Instead, the Sooners left Michigan with a 17-10 loss and a lot of familiar questions about the offense. Lee and Grant react to Oklahoma’s disappointing road loss at Michigan and read your “3-Word Reviews”. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Oklahoma makes West of Everest look stupid 04:16 — Oklahoma’s offense was bad again05:16 — Grant: the game exposed offseason concerns 09:31 — The offensive sequencing felt weird from the opening drive13:20 — Offensive line injuries mattered13:44 — Fodje and the tackles struggled with Michigan’s edge rushers 18:56 — Empty 12 personnel was the failed new wrinkle 22:46 — Mateer had too many misses that should not be missed24:58 — OU still had a chance despite the offensive mess 27:00 — The standard for Oklahoma’s defense is extremely high 29:12 — Pass rush concerns and lack of disruption 30:57 — Kip Lewis’ non-contact injury  36:24 — Mateer remains the key to Oklahoma’s season36:40 — Grant: good teams can lose that game, really good teams do not 38:42 — Could OU still bounce back against Georgia and Texas?40:54 — Three-word reviews begin 42:22 — “Nice extension, Denny” 43:40 — End-of-half time management failure 46:45 — Michigan’s offensive coordinator knew Underwood’s limitations 48:12 — Was Elijah Thomas open for a touchdown?48:50 — Michigan took away Sategna and Beers in high-leverage moments49:22 — JJ Buchanan’s third-and-long explosive still bothers Grant50:32 — Running backs are mid and not dynamic51:05 — Fans pile on the offense, Venables and the extension  56:23 — Grant: year five at Oklahoma should not look like this 59:45 — Michigan fumbled twice on the same series and OU recovered neither01:00:22 — OU forces zero takeaways after Western Michigan forced three 01:04:60 — Lee still did not expect Oklahoma to lose 01:06:38 — Grant: this was the perfect script for Michigan to win 01:07:06 — OU failed to punch Michigan in the mouth early Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook.

Ep. 434 - OU-Michigan Preview: Is Michigan Really That Bad? The show opens with leftover thoughts from OU’s win over UTEP, followed by the latest injury news involving key offensive linemen. Later, the guys begin their OU-Michigan preview by talking about how the Wolverines should be 0-1. Grant compares Michigan’s offense to Oklahoma’s 2024 offense, while Lee explains why Michigan’s heavy sixth-offensive-lineman “Rhino” package may play right into the strength of Oklahoma’s defense. The guys discuss Bryce Underwood, Michigan’s struggling run game, Kyle Whittingham’s rocky start, and why OU’s defense should be eager for this matchup. On the other side, Lee and Grant discuss what Oklahoma’s offense must show against Michigan’s defense. The episode closes with Week 2 picks against the spread: Missouri at Kansas, Alabama at Kentucky, Mississippi State at Minnesota, Iowa State at Iowa, and Ohio State at Texas. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening take: OU’s a 12 personnel team 04:13 — Leftover thoughts from the UTEP win 05:30 — OU used 12 personnel on 82.7 percent of snaps 09:30 — Danny Saili’s size and role on the defensive line09:59 — Grant still thinks Saili looks undersized13:02 — Jake Maikkula and Ryan Fodje trending toward a return13:29 — Michael Fasusi availability becomes the major concern14:00 — What does OU’s offensive line look like without Fasusi?  24:23 — Michigan should be 0-1 after Western Michigan24:41 — Kyle Whittingham’s rough start at Michigan25:22 — Bryce Underwood remains Michigan’s starter “right now”26:01 — Underwood’s awkward response to Whittingham’s comments26:25 — Michigan’s offense, Jason Beck and the Wolverines’ main weapons27:01 — Western Michigan ending controversy28:01 — Grant: Michigan’s offense looked like 2024 Oklahoma 31:16 — Why Western Michigan may have a real gripe36:50 — Back to Michigan being a dumpster fire37:09 — What Oklahoma’s defense needs to do against Bryce Underwood38:31 — Michigan’s “Rhino” package plays into OU’s hands40:04 — Why using a sixth offensive lineman only works if those linemen can block42:40 — Stop the run and put Michigan in obvious passing situations43:24 — JJ Buchanan may be Michigan’s only scary skill player45:35 — Lee wants three takeaways from Oklahoma’s defense47:57 — Grant: Michigan may improve, but the offense is not good 52:18 — Michigan’s yards per play and time-of-possession context53:39 — What Oklahoma’s offense needs to show against Michigan 56:26 — Grant’s No. 1 offensive key: play a clean game57:17 — Michigan’s penalty issues against Western Michigan59:54 — John Mateer needs to keep building off Week 1 01:03:31 — Get the ball to Sategna, Trell Harris and Rocky Beers01:05:56 — Lloyd Avant can keep Oklahoma on schedule01:06:20 — Grant’s prediction 01:08:48 — Lee’s prediction  01:15:13 — OU needs to punch Michigan in the mouth early01:16:15 — Programming note: Lee on 107.7 The Franchise postgame show01:18:42 — Around college football and Week 2 setup01:20:02 — Tennessee-Georgia Tech, Auburn and Gavin Freeman thoughts01:22:12 — Ole Miss-Louisville and LSU-Clemson thoughts 01:25:24 — Oregon-Boise State and Boise as a G6 contender01:26:21 — Week 2 picks begin01:26:54 — Missouri at Kansas 01:29:26 — Alabama at Kentucky 01:31:25 — Mississippi State at Minnesota01:35:38 — Iowa State at Iowa01:36:51 — Ohio State at Texas 01:38:50 — Final thoughts before OU-Michigan weekend Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook.

Ep. 433 - OU’s Offense Actually Looks Different in 51-0 Shutout Of UTEP The Sooners opened the 2026 season by shutting out UTEP 51-0 Friday night at Owen Field. The guys discuss their likes and dislikes from the game and read your 3-Word Reviews! Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Oklahoma opens the season with a 51-0 shutout03:44 — Tight end usage was not just offseason talk04:37 — Grant: 12 personnel looked like OU’s base offense08:05 — John Mateer looked comfortable and the offense looked balanced10:31 — Easy explosive plays in the passing game11:04 — Rocky Beers looks like a real weapon11:56 — Mateer looked like his pre-injury version12:48 — Noah Best starts at center as a true freshman14:58 — Likes on Offense -- Isaiah Sategna looked like the best player on the team18:15 — Lee liked Lloyd Avant’s debut19:47 — Grant liked the easy downfield passing game20:44 — Ben Arbuckle deserves credit for adjusting the offense21:15 — Jonathan Hatton flashes on his second carry 22:53 — John Mateer’s efficiency and Hayden Hansen’s catch26:21 — Elijah Thomas gets involved early 28:10 — Trell Harris wins immediately against zero coverage28:40 — Dislikes on offense 35:53 — Overall offensive verdict: good, but run-game explosiveness remains a question36:06 — Likes on defense37:24 — OU pitched a shutout and people still had defensive complaints42:15 — Taylor Wein and P.J. Adebawore stood out 45:15 — Wyatt Gilmore and Cole Sullivan stand out47:17 — OU forces two takeaways in Week 147:56 — Dislikes on defense  55:56 — 3-word reviews 01:07:17 — Final verdict: OU looked like a good team01:07:39 — Mateer’s yards per attempt and deep passing encouragement01:08:08 — Why Jake Maikkula is needed for Michigan01:08:34 — Encouraging signs on Maikkula’s status Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook.

Ep. 432 – OU-UTEP Preview: What The Sooners Must Show in Week 1 The show begins with the latest injury news on Oklahoma’s offensive line. Just when Jake Maikkula appeared to be the main injury concern at center, Ryan Fodje — listed as the top center on OU’s Week 1 depth chart — suffered a lower-body injury. The good news: reports indicate Fodje’s MRI was negative, and Jake Maikkula is progressing well. Lee and Grant also break down Oklahoma’s Week 1 depth chart, revisit their pre-fall camp “unanswerable questions” and ask which ones actually got answered. Then Lee and Grant preview Oklahoma vs. UTEP. They discuss UTEP quarterback EJ Colson, the Miners’ new-look offensive line, UTEP’s defensive strengths, and what OU’s defense should do against an overmatched opponent. For Oklahoma, the big questions are mostly on offense: can the Sooners run the ball consistently, can the tight ends help in the run game, will Ben Arbuckle show more 12 personnel and 13 personnel, and can John Mateer push the ball downfield while staying healthy? The episode ends with the return of the weekly picks segment. Lee and Grant pick five Week 1 games against the spread: Coastal Carolina at West Virginia, Baylor vs. Auburn, Clemson at LSU, Louisville vs. Ole Miss, and SMU at Florida State. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take: Football is finally here 02:58 — Kickoff weather at Owen Field and a hot Friday night vs. UTEP03:19 — OU, UTEP and the 2000 season opener comparison05:07 — Lee’s OU hat falls, and Grant has thoughts on the old OU logo06:22 — Ryan Fodje and Jake Maikkula injury updates09:32 — Is OU telling us Caleb Nitta just isn’t very good? 12:40 — Maikkula’s MCL timeline and possible Michigan return15:16 — Week 1 depth chart nuggets begin15:38 — Parker Livingstone or Elijah Thomas at X receiver 19:44 — Running back depth chart: Lloyd Avant or Xavier Robinson20:33 — Tory Blaylock injury status and Jonathan Hatton’s opportunity 24:14 — Defensive depth chart lists 12 positions25:09 — Wyatt Gilmore backing up Taylor Wein26:47 — Tank Carrington fourth on the depth chart despite strong buzz27:10 — Bishop Thomas, Nigel Smith and interior defensive line depth28:21 — LeBron Bauer shows up at cheetah28:56 — Tristan Haynes vs. Dakota Fields as the fourth corner battle29:49 — Omarion Robinson’s flexibility at both safety spots31:15 — Revisiting the pre-fall camp unanswerable questions31:53 — Trell Harris makes it through Fall Camp healthy 35:42 — Is the running back room healthy going into Week 1?37:02 — Did Bo Bentley win the backup quarterback job? 40:09 — Elijah Thomas becomes the obvious fall camp riser40:49 — Did OU’s offense ever have its way with the defense?44:02 — OU vs. UTEP preview begins44:36 — Line update: Oklahoma favored by 40.545:38 — UTEP’s move to the Mountain West and EJ Colson’s path47:05 — Colson’s 2025 production at Incarnate Word47:31 — UTEP’s new offensive line and veteran defense48:21 — UTEP’s sack production and healthy receiver additions50:28 — Grant’s No. 1 defensive goal: no explosives51:38 — OU’s run defense opener history under Brent Venables52:37 — EJ Colson’s mobility and potential broken-play threat53:20 — Can OU completely strangle UTEP’s offense?54:24 — Can OU pitch a shutout or hold UTEP to one score?54:49 — Defensive players to watch: Tank Carrington, PJ Adebawore and Cole Sullivan55:47 — Wyatt Gilmore, Jake Kreul, Danny Okoye and Michael Boganowski56:49 — What Oklahoma’s offense needs to show57:29 — Hayden Hansen says OU is not one-dimensional anymore58:03 — How much 12 personnel and 13 personnel will OU actually use?58:26 — Grant wants to see whether the run scheme has really changed59:20 — OU needs to impose its will in the run game59:57 — Grant wants John Mateer to push the ball downfield01:01:09 — Lee wants OU to average at least six yards per carry01:01:55 — Why last year’s opener showed OU could not run consistently01:03:42 — Grant’s No. 1 offensive goal: stay healthy01:04:06 — OU-UTEP predictions

Ep. 431 - The Big Season Preview Is Back! Game week is finally here, and the Big Season Preview is back! But first, Grant can’t believe a stat he just learned about a SEC team from the 70’s, the guys discuss the ongoing battle for the starting center spot, and acknowledge that OU recently announced its 2026 team captains. Then, it’s time for the Big Season Preview as Lee and Grant go through five preseason prompts built around certainty, cautious optimism, skepticism, crazy-but-possible outcomes, and things they may not want to say too loudly. Topics include Oklahoma’s dominant run defense, whether OU will force more takeaways, whether the Sooners could have the best defense in college football, whether Deland McCullough fixes the running back room, whether John Mateer becomes OU’s most dynamic runner, whether the 12 personnel and under-center buzz is real, Elijah Thomas and Jonathan Hatton hype, PJ Adebawore’s NFL upside, the possibility of a 1,000-yard rusher, whether OU could produce two 800-yard receivers, and the uncomfortable possibility that Oklahoma could still finish 7-5 or worse. The guys also include predictions from the West of Everest community, including thoughts on Mateer, Ben Arbuckle, the tight end room, Danny Okoye, OU’s turnover total, Brent Venables’ contract extension and the Sooners’ 2026 floor. Finally, Lee and Grant revisit their past preseason predictions from 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024 before making their final 2026 record picks. The show closes with quick Week Zero thoughts on TCU, Memphis, Jackson Arnold, CJ Bailey, USC, Lincoln Riley, Gary Patterson and the arrival of real college football. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take - Oklahoma’s goal: three takeaways per game04:20 — Grant reacts to the 1970 Tennessee takeaway record 08:43 — West of Everest moves to two episodes per week during the season09:27 — Center position remains the biggest pre-UTEP storyline10:08 — Ryan Fodje may be leading the center battle16:48 — Oklahoma names nine captains17:29 — Big season preview begins and the show is about to get better because the offseason content machine is almost over 22:02 — Prompt 1: “I am so certain of this that I haven’t even considered an alternative”28:20 — Prompt 2: “I’m pretty sure this will happen, but I’m not ready to commit”36:50 — Prompt 3: “I’m hearing the positive talk, but I still need to see it” 44:06 — Prompt 4: “That’s crazy, but it could happen” 59:28 — Grant’s boldest prediction01:00:51 — Prompt 5: “I’m just going to keep my thoughts to myself”01:02:29 — Predictions from the West of Everest community 01:11:03 — OU’s floor should be higher with a great defense and returning QB 01:12:46 — Looking back at West of Everest preseason predictions01:13:19 — 2024 prediction review: Lee 9-3, Grant 8-4, OU finished 6-601:14:23 — 2023 prediction review: both picked 9-3, OU finished 10-201:16:47 — 2022 prediction review and maybe Grant’s worst take ever 01:20:55 — 2021 prediction review: Lee 11-1, Grant 12-0, OU finished 10-201:23:46 — Lee clarifies criticism of Venables is not an endorsement of Riley01:24:44 — Final 2026 OU record picks 01:29:05 — Quick national college football thoughts from Week Zero01:30:20 — TCU, Jaden Craig and Josh Hoover’s value01:31:21 — Memphis, Jackson Arnold and pressure issues01:32:33 — CJ Bailey, Virginia and the offseason quarterback hype machine01:33:46 — USC, San Jose State and another Lincoln Riley-style game 01:35:39 — Looking ahead to UTEP Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook.

Ep. 430 - OU Makes Big Bet On Brent Venables Before Massive 2026 Season OU and Brent Venables agreed to a new six-year contract that reportedly pays Venables an average of $10.5 million per year. Did OU have to make this move now? The guys also discuss the latest on Jake Maikkula’s injury and the plan at center moving forward. The latest news out of fall camp includes Reggie Powers’ growth at cheetah, OU’s run-game talk, and more under-center work for John Mateer. Later, Brady Trantham from Oklahoma Sooners on SI and Through the Keyhole joins the show to give his perspective from fall camp. Brady discusses the center situation, Xavier Robinson, Jonathan Hatton, OU’s wide receiver questions, the tight end room, Tank Carrington, the defensive line, and the bigger-picture debate over Venables’ contract extension and Oklahoma’s standard in the SEC. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take – Brent Venables gets a new contract 06:21 — Jake Maikkula injury clarity and the plan at center in the short term 17:27 — Reggie Powers buzz from fall camp 20:42 — Kip Lewis, Owen Heinecke and linebacker rotation questions 23:57 — Bigger bodies, tight ends and more command in the run game24:19 — Tight ends as extra blockers in Oklahoma’s offense  27:06 — John Mateer talks under-center work and more 12 personnel discussion34:16 — Brent Venables contract discussion begins35:46 — Venables now reportedly among the top 10 highest-paid coaches 37:52 — Grant’s opening reaction: why do this right now? 40:39 — Lee: why not wait and see what happens in 2026? 46:01 — Oklahoma’s bet on front-office structure, Venables and development 49:41 — Listener question for Grant: did OU do enough to improve the offense?50:57 — Grant’s answer: year five should mean national-level expectations 54:47 — Brady Trantham joins to talk fall camp58:14 — Brady’s biggest fall camp takeaway outside Venables and Maikkula  01:02:19 — Brady on the Jake Maikkula injury and center options  01:06:00 — Is Ryan Fodje at center a real option or emergency planning?   01:12:10 — Tory Blaylock hamstring concern01:12:48 — Xavier Robinson, Jonathan Hatton and Lloyd Avant as the healthy trio 01:14:05 — Jonathan Hatton’s physical tools and Adrian Peterson/Joe Mixon comparisons   01:19:00 — Elijah Thomas buzz and whether OU has a real playmaker emerging 01:24:00 — Tight end room talk: Hayden Hansen, Rocky Beers and Jack Van Dorselaer01:26:00 — Can Jason Witten and Deland McCullough change OU’s offensive identity? 01:30:16 — Tank Carrington hype keeps growing 01:33:06 — Brady reacts to the Brent Venables contract extension 01:38:43 — Brady puts stock in the 2025 playoff season and the challenge of SEC play 01:41:01 — Grant’s concern: OU thought things were fine before 2024 too 01:43:25 — When should Oklahoma expect more than “good”?01:44:11 — Should OU be a national title contender in year five?01:45:44 — Comparing Venables’ path to Bob Stoops and the old Big 12/Big Eight reality 01:49:52 — How the SEC exposes your flaws01:53:37 — The glass-half-full case for Oklahoma’s bet on Venables 01:58:37 — Whether the extension looks good depends on what you think 2026 will be02:00:02 — What is the eject button for Venables?  02:10:46 — What if OU goes 9-3 but makes real offensive and defensive jumps?02:14:59 — Georgia expectations and when OU should expect 11-1 or 12-0 again02:16:34 — Where to find Brady Trantham’s work02:17:32 — Closing: follow West of Everest Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook.

Ep. 429 – A Potentially Crushing Injury Overshadows a Good Week of Practice Lee and Grant react to the report that Oklahoma center Jake Maikkula was injured during the Sooners’ first full scrimmage of fall camp. The guys discuss what Maikkula means to the offensive line, why center is such a difficult position to replace, and what Caleb Nitta and true freshman Noah Best could bring if Oklahoma must adjust up front. There was actually a lot of good news this week as there’s suddenly Elijah Thomas buzz coming out of practice, Trell Harris appears to be practicing in full, Tank Carrington has a trait shared by Jayden Jackson, and OU adds Arkansas transfer Danny Saili to the defensive line room. Later, the guys answer listener questions about Oklahoma’s offensive line, the run game, the running back room, how much better John Mateer really needs to be, what Ben Arbuckle must prove in year two, whether OU’s secondary can be considered the strength of the team, and which Sooners could get drafted after the 2026 season. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take – A good week ends with bad news03:59 — Brandon Drumm reports Jake Maikkula was injured in Saturday’s scrimmage09:03 — Noah Best hype and whether he could factor into the center battle 12:15 — Why losing Maikkula would be a significant downgrade16:35 — Elijah Thomas suddenly becomes a major name to watch22:18 — Trell Harris appears to be practicing in full and making plays28:27 — James “Tank” Carrington hype keeps growing 30:27 — Comparing Carrington’s block recognition to Jayden Jackson as a freshman35:19 — Oklahoma adds Arkansas transfer Danny Saili38:40 — Todd Bates’ credibility and why the defensive staff gets benefit of the doubt39:31 — Listener poll: if OU has the best defense, how good must the offense be? 41:08 — West of Everest YouTube subscriber update and community growth41:57 — Why total offense can be misleading42:23 — Does OU need a top-10 offense to win a national title?45:28 — Listener Questions lead to O-line talk about Michael Fasusi and Heath Ozaeta47:22 — Why the offensive line should improve, but may not be elite yet 50:50 — 12 personnel, offensive philosophy and how OU may build its offense 55:38 — Under-center run game discussion 59:18 — Hunter asks about run blocking and run game health59:32 — Shane asks if any running back is emerging as the top guy01:00:42 — Why Xavier Robinson’s quick return suggests the early injury may not be severe01:01:48 — Grant’s concerns about Tory Blaylock as a top-two running back01:04:33 — What offensive success against OU’s defense would mean in camp01:06:00 — John Mateer listener question: how much better does he really need to be?01:06:55 — Did upgraded personnel change the standard for Mateer?01:07:50 — Why a small statistical improvement may not be enough01:08:17 — Mateer’s injury prevented OU from learning how much he could improve last season 01:12:48 — What a realistic Mateer statistical improvement could look like01:14:02 — Can Mateer improve pocket movement, reads and timing? 01:16:23 — Jeff asks what Ben Arbuckle must do to help the offense thrive01:16:44 — Arbuckle has to be intentional with personnel and play-calling01:18:29 — How the offense can thrive in the SEC01:20:21 — James asks whether the secondary could be the strength of the defense01:23:29 — Peyton Bowen, Reggie Powers, Omarion Robinson and safety depth  01:28:11 — Big defensive package possibilities01:31:07 — Final listener question: how many Sooners get drafted? 01:34:42 — What double-digit draft picks would mean for Oklahoma’s season 01:36:09 — Looking ahead to season preview content and show close Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook. #OklahomaFootball #OUFootball #Sooners #CollegeFootball #SECfootball #BrentVenables #JohnMateer #FallCamp #WestOfEverest

Ep. 428 - John Mateer’s Championship Chance and Fall Camp is Here! John Mateer’s got an incredible opportunity to win a National Championship this season. He’s got the defense, but what must he and the offense do in order for the Sooners to win Number 8? The guys react to early Fall Camp video and practice buzz. Topics include Courtland Guillory’s impressive clips, David Stone’s dominance, Trent Wilson’s development, defensive line depth, PJ Adebawore’s role, Michael Boganowski becoming more technical, safety depth concerns and the possibility that OU’s defense may be even better in 2026. On offense, the conversation shifts to Deland McCullough and the running back room. We liked his comments about yards after contact. Thoughts on Tory Blaylock and Trell Harris, a possible surprise wide receiver may break out, and will Jason Witten influence Ben Arbuckle’s offense so much that the style changes? Plus brief thoughts on the Coaches Poll, the new five-year eligibility ruling, Taylor Tatum’s departure from Michigan, and more hot Lincoln Riley/Brent Venables talk! Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take – John Mateer’s massive opportunity05:03 — Week Zero is getting close 07:12 — Fall Camp practice videos, a lot has stood out to Grant08:10 — Deacon Schmitt may be ready to play early08:31 — Manny Choice looks the part physically09:00 — Cole Sullivan’s length and Austin Stogner flashbacks09:34 — Courtland Guillory’s aura and defensive back clips11:00 — Deland McCullough’s running back drill philosophy12:38 — Why “yards after contact” matters for OU’s run game15:07 — Tight ends, receivers and who looks comfortable in practice clips17:04 — Running back talk begins with Lloyd Avant and Xavier Robinson19:00 — Lee declares he’s not concerned with the D-line depth21:00 — Trent Wilson as a potential breakout defensive lineman25:00 — Defensive tackle depth and the benefit of the doubt for OU’s defensive staff26:13 — Jayden Jackson and the question of durability 30:00 — Venables downplaying defensive line strength30:56 — Edge rusher questions behind the defensive line hype32:00 — PJ Adebawore entering a huge season35:00 — Defensive front possibilities and pressure packages36:00 — Michael Boganowski becoming more technical37:00 — Safety play, deep passing concerns and OU’s secondary44:00 — Peyton Bowen, Reggie Powers and young safety depth46:00 — Linebacker depth behind Kip Lewis and Owen Heinecke51:00 — Length on the edge and disrupting screens54:41 — YouTube community poll: which offensive position group worries fans most?56:00 — Tory Blaylock not available for Practice number 357:00 — Lloyd Avant appears to be RB1 if the game were tomorrow01:00:00 — Lloyd Avant’s experience at Tulsa and Colorado State01:01:00 — Avant’s wiggle, burst and potential fit at Oklahoma01:03:00 — Xavier Robinson’s instant impact when healthy01:04:00 — Deland McCullough compares Lloyd Avant to Damien Williams 01:06:00 — Trell Harris participates in individual drills with cameras present 01:10:10 — John Mateer says Manny Choice has grown a lot  01:15:07 — Tight end room discussion begins01:15:28 — Hayden Hansen as a massive blocking presence01:15:48 — Gabe Ikard’s interest in OU running out of 12 personnel01:17:06 — Jason Witten’s influence on Oklahoma’s tight ends01:19:47 — Ben Arbuckle’s Washington State personnel usage01:23:32 — Is Arbuckle’s run scheme good enough?  01:28:54 — Offensive line thoughts and remaining offensive questions01:30:11 — Grant’s frustration with OU’s transfer portal approach01:31:58 — Oklahoma ranked No. 9 in the preseason coaches poll 01:32:58 — Five-year eligibility ruling and possible roster impacts01:34:49 — Would Jaren Kanak help OU if he could return?01:35:36 — Taylor Tatum no longer with Michigan01:37:14 — Responding to Brady Trantham’s rebuttal to the Venables/Lincoln Riley debate 01:40:25 — Why that debate still matters today Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts,

Ep. 427 - OU Fall Camp Questions & the Brent Venables Reality Check Our Fall Camp preview poses unanswerable questions at this time. Will Trell Harris make it through fall camp healthy? Can OU’s RB room get to Week 1 without a wave of injuries? Which position group could produce a surprise camp star, and more! Later, we take a deeper look at Brent Venables through four seasons at Oklahoma. How does Venables compare historically to other first-time head coaches? Is there a realistic national championship blueprint for Venables based on college football history? The episode closes with a detailed conversation about the idea that Lincoln Riley “left the cupboard bare” when he departed Oklahoma. Lee and Grant revisit the 2022 roster, including Dillon Gabriel, Eric Gray, Marvin Mims, Brayden Willis, Anton Harrison, Tyler Guyton, Wanya Morris and others, and debate whether OU’s 6-7 season in Venables’ first year was really about talent, culture, coaching, injuries, or all of the above. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take – Fall Camp is upon us 06:05 — Will Trell Harris make it through fall camp healthy?12:29 — What makes a true No. 1 wide receiver?15:14 — National title expectations vs. where OU actually is17:48 — Can Oklahoma get to UTEP with a healthy running back room? 21:25 — Which position group could produce a surprise camp superstar? 29:25 — Could Bowe Bentley win the backup quarterback job? 33:16 — If Mateer gets hurt again, can OU trust its QB2?35:04 — Remembering backup quarterbacks from the Lincoln Riley era 41:17 — Side quest to talk about Lincoln Riley at Big Ten Media Days43:05 — Will OU’s offense ever have its way with the defense in fall camp?46:41 — Health is still the No. 1 fall camp priority48:28 — Brent Venables first four seasons at OU in perspective 53:01 — Comparing first-time OU head coaches through four seasons57:12 — Is there a national championship blueprint for Venables?01:02:08 — Where Venables ranks among first-time head coaches historically 01:05:01 — Random detour: Charlie Weis, Notre Dame and college football YouTube rabbit holes01:08:43 — Revisiting Lee and Grant’s initial reaction to Venables being hired 01:10:44 — OU’s 2022 floor should have been higher than 6-7 01:14:52 — Did Lincoln Riley really gut the program?01:23:19 — Why the 2022 offense was the most functional part of the team 01:25:37 — Comparing OU’s 2021 offensive personnel to the 2022 offense01:28:24 — Defensive roster comparison from 2021 to 202201:29:54 — What “cupboard was bare” may actually mean  01:34:00 — Offensive red flags heading into 2026 Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook. #OklahomaFootball #OUFootball #Sooners #CollegeFootball #SECfootball #BrentVenables #JohnMateer #FallCamp #WestOfEverest

Ep. 426 - OU Has 3 Future NFL Tight Ends? SEC Media Days have come and gone, and one of the most interesting comments of the week came from Sooners general manager Jim Nagy. Does OU really have three tight ends on the roster who will be playing on Sundays? Lee and Grant also react to Brent Venables’ correctly acknowledging OU’s flaws from 2025 and mentioning that nine offensive linemen can play winning football. The guys answer listener questions about the effectiveness of Tory Blaylock, and whether their opinions have changed on Brent Venables. Later, Brady Trantham of Oklahoma Sooners on SI and Through the Keyhole joins the show to give his boots-on-the-ground perspective from SEC Media Days in Tampa. Brady discusses what actually mattered from Media Days, Brent Venables’ confidence in the tight end room, Oklahoma’s offensive questions, Trell Harris, the difficulty of adjusting to the SEC, Greg Sankey’s comments about the future of college football, the possibility of the SEC and Big Ten reshaping the sport, and more! Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take – Jim Nagy’s Bold Claim at SEC Media Days06:50 — Could OU really have three future NFL tight ends?10:12 — Can better tight ends actually fix Oklahoma’s run game?19:26 — Brent Venables correctly identifies OU’s biggest 2025 problems21:41 — Receiver room changes and Trell Harris questions 25:14 — Venables says OU has nine offensive linemen who can play winning football25:32 — Who are Oklahoma’s offensive line depth pieces? 28:36 — Listener question: Why does Grant not like Tory Blaylock?35:33 — Listener question: Has your view of Brent Venables changed?42:48 — Brady Trantham joins the show to talk SEC Media Days 48:49 — Brent Venables’ confidence in OU’s tight end room 01:03:36 — Greg Sankey, OU hate watching, and what a SEC breakaway looks like  01:06:33 — The case for a 35-to-45 team highest level of college football 01:13:03 — Bedlam, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and the future “big boy table” 01:15:31 — Is college football trying to grow like the NFL or NBA? 01:17:48 — Why the Big 12 did not make Oklahoma better for the playoff 01:25:04 — Mid-majors, expensive football and who belongs in a playoff01:28:55 — Could some programs eventually stop playing major football? 01:33:26 — OU’s Big 12 years, playoff failures and defensive depth issues 01:38:06 — Why beating bad Big 12 teams became an unhealthy fan experience 01:42:04 — Why a softer league can hide flaws 01:43:47 — SEC Preseason Poll and no defensive players on First Team All-SEC Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook.

Ep. 425 - OU Football Breakouts, Red Flags, and SEC Predictions Lee and Grant open with a look at OU’s second-year players heading into the 2026 season. Which young Sooners will contribute, and which players will disappoint? Lee and Grant also discuss Oklahoma’s SEC Media Days representatives — John Mateer, Eddie Pierre-Louis and Taylor Wein — and whether there is any real meaning behind who Brent Venables chose to bring to Tampa. Then the guys finish their SEC team-by-team predictions ahead of SEC Media Days. This episode covers Florida, Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Mississippi State, LSU and Texas. The show closes with Lee and Grant unveiling their full predicted SEC order of finish, SEC Championship Game picks and SEC champion predictions. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Welcome. Lee’s sunburn advice 02:15 — Which second-year Sooners could contribute in 2026?06:32 — Lee picks Darius Afalava as a possible offensive contributor 09:15 — Why Oklahoma’s offensive high school recruiting track record is concerning  12:24 — Omarion Robinson and Trent Wilson as obvious defensive breakout options17:36 — Marcus James, high school recruiting and the modern transfer portal era 22:02 — Nigel Smith and whether 2026 is his make-or-break year24:51 — Lee picks Elijah Thomas as a possible offensive non-factor27:03 — Grant’s concerns about Emmett Jones and wide receiver development 30:45 — J.J. Hester’s strange Kentucky stat line 33:47 — John Mateer, Eddie Pierre-Louis and Taylor Wein heading to Tampa41:54 — The Athletic’s All-SEC team and Kip Lewis being left off43:17 — Lee’s Florida breakdown: John Sumrall, Buster Faulkner, Aaron Philo and Jadan Baugh45:35 — Grant agrees on Florida going 7-547:18 — Florida’s skill talent and offensive line concerns48:43 — Could Florida have the worst quarterback situation in the SEC?51:25 — Grant predicts Alabama at 9-3 55:36 — Could Kalen DeBoer struggle with the Alabama culture fit?56:32 — Ole Miss prediction. Crossfire here. 01:02:15 — Texas A&M prediction01:02:54 — Grant’s hesitation with the Aggies and Marcel Reed 01:07:34 — Arkansas prediction 01:09:16 — Mississippi State prediction01:11:40 — LSU prediction. Grant’s skeptical, but still high on LSU.01:14:54 — Lee predicts LSU at 11-101:17:40 — Lee’s hopefully wrong Texas prediction 01:20:09 — Texas red flags: offensive line, Arch Manning and portal questions01:22:47 — Full SEC predicted order of finish01:23:34 — Grant’s Oklahoma prediction in the SEC standings01:24:21 — Georgia as the default SEC champion pick, Lee’s surprise teams 01:26:39 — Most confident and least confident SEC predictions01:27:54 — Grant’s Oklahoma uncertainty: SEC champion or 6-6? 01:28:50 — Bonus World Cup and soccer talk 01:31:59 — Why the U.S. still lags behind elite soccer countries01:35:43 — Soccer popularity, money and American sports culture Follow West of Everest Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel for full episodes, clips and Shorts. Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook. #OklahomaFootball #OUFootball #Sooners #CollegeFootball #SECfootball #SECMediaDays #WestOfEverest

Lee and Grant open the show by digging into OU’s strange takeaway numbers from last year and talk about why 2025 was a major outlier in Brent Venables' career. The guys also discuss Parker Thune’s observation about Oklahoma’s projected defensive starters being almost entirely recruited and developed by OU, and what that says about the defensive staff under Venables. Later, the guys make predictions for half of the SEC, including Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Auburn, South Carolina, Georgia, Vanderbilt and OU. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take -- Oklahoma’s bizarre 2025 takeaway numbers 05:04 — Revisiting the takeaway discussion from Through the Keyhole 14:23 — What would be a satisfying takeaway total for Oklahoma in 2026? 17:32 — Parker Thune’s tweet about OU’s projected defensive starters 21:26 — Why OU’s defensive trajectory under Venables still has room to grow 27:16 — Running back development concerns and offensive staff questions 30:17 — Brent Venables vs. Lincoln Riley: defensive head coach vs. offensive head coach 32:05 — What OU needs to show against UTEP in the season opener 38:26 — SEC Media Days setup and preseason prediction format 42:37 — Kentucky season prediction 51:57 — Tennessee season prediction 54:02 — Lee’s concern about Tennessee and a possible late-season collapse 58:18 — Missouri season prediction 01:03:27 — Auburn season prediction 01:07:34 — South Carolina season prediction 01:10:16 — Grant predicts trouble for South Carolina 01:11:20 — Georgia season prediction 01:14:37 — Vanderbilt season prediction is a crossfire 01:17:48 — Oklahoma season prediction (we reserve the right to change this) 01:26:34 — Big 12 media days and conference realignment discussion 01:29:33 — SEC vs. Big Ten, ESPN/FPI criticism and media narratives 01:34:08 — How to compare SEC and Big Ten depth Follow West of Everest Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel for full episodes, clips and Shorts. Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook. #sooners #oklahomafootball #oufootball #sec #secfootball #collegefootball #cfb #georgiafootball #kentuckyfootball #vanderbiltfootball

John Mateer has been the talk of the college football world for the last 6-9 days. Lee and Grant discuss Mateer’s viral offseason moments and the recent reports about his thumb injury, throwing motion, mechanics, and offseason work to become a better passer.  Plus the guys talk about OU moving its 2026 season opener against UTEP to Friday night, the NCAA’s proposed five-year eligibility model, and a few corrections from last week’s episode! We save some World Cup talk for the end if that interests you. Chapters/Timecodes 00:00 — Opening Take -- John Mateer’s big week: viral squat video, Manning Passing Academy and throwing mechanics06:16 — Show correction: 31 personnel vs. 13 personnel07:19 — Lee and Grant reintroduce themselves to new YouTube viewers10:07 — West of Everest’s role in the OU football podcast ecosystem12:29 — Grant’s reaction to all the John Mateer offseason attention14:52 — Mateer’s viral front squat video and Manning Passing Academy look19:50 — Breaking down Mateer’s throwing motion and release20:08 — Why Mateer still looks like a natural three-quarter arm passer21:15 — Comparing pre-injury and post-injury Mateer24:01 — Watching Mateer’s Oklahoma debut against Illinois State24:45 — Mateer’s arm angle, release style and natural throwing motion25:03 — Mateer’s arm strength and the Josh Allen comparison25:49 — Why changing quarterback mechanics takes time and thousands of reps28:15 — Evaluating recent Manning Passing Academy clips31:09 — Reviewing more Mateer throws from Manning Passing Academy36:41 — Oklahoma’s 2026 season opener against UTEP moves to Friday night37:02 — Roger Denny’s statement on the Friday night opener37:51 — Why the Friday opener gives OU an extra day before Michigan41:04 — Looking back at OU’s previous Friday night opener against Temple41:20 — Why West of Everest sounded the alarm early on the 2024 OU offense43:25 — Comparing the Temple opener to Mateer’s Illinois State debut44:33 — What elite Oklahoma offenses used to look like against overmatched opponents45:58 — NCAA’s proposed five-year eligibility model47:06 — How the new age-based eligibility clock would work48:33 — Why the proposed model could change redshirts and record books52:52 — Can the NCAA actually enforce new eligibility rules after recent lawsuits?54:02 — Collective bargaining, unions and the future of college athlete rules57:02 — Show corrections segment begins57:52 — Revisiting the Kip Lewis linebacker discussion01:00:00 — Curtis Lofton correction: best OU linebacker since Rufus Alexander?01:01:16 — Minnesota football and paying players in the 1980s01:04:29 — Happy Fourth of July and World Cup talk01:04:48 — Why the USMNT in the World Cup still feels like a big deal01:06:02 — Folarin Balogun, red cards and FIFA decision-making01:10:19 — Soccer replay debate: slow motion, red cards and rule interpretation01:13:01 — Comparing replay in soccer to replay in football01:16:17 — Should red cards punish intent, danger or outcome?01:22:41 — What soccer might look like with a few rule tweaks01:25:19 — Closing thoughts and where to follow West of Everest Follow West of Everest Subscribe to the West of Everest YouTube channel for full episodes, clips and Shorts. Follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and please leave a five-star rating and review if you enjoy the podcast. Follow West of Everest on X, Instagram and Facebook. #OklahomaFootball #OUFootball #Sooners #JohnMateer #CollegeFootball #WestOfEverest

The guys are back for a full summer reset as the 2026 college football season gets closer. The guys start with the three most interesting things about OU football in 2026, including whether Brent Venables’ Oklahoma defense can be even better this season, why the Sooners may be underrated nationally, the importance of John Mateer taking a step forward, and what to make of Oklahoma’s difficult SEC schedule. Then, Lee and Grant play a John Mateer “Would You Rather” quarterback game, comparing Oklahoma’s QB to several major names around college football, including Arch Manning, CJ Carr, Marcel Reed, Darian Mensah, Gunnar Stockton, Rocco Becht, Connor Weigman, Kevin Jennings, Sam Leavitt and more. Later, the guys hit on Owen Heinecke’s preliminary injunction before diving into the wild Brendan Sorsby gambling/NCAA/Texas Tech/Big 12 situation, what it says about NCAA enforcement power, and why courts are becoming such a major part of modern college football. The episode wraps with thoughts on OU baseball winning the national championship and how the Sooners got hot at the perfect time. West of Everest is an Oklahoma football podcast hosted by Lee Benson and Grant Benson. Chapters / Timecodes 00:00 — Intro: West of Everest is back04:50 — Ratings, reviews, and growing the show05:30 — Top 3 most interesting things about OU football in 202606:00 — Why OU’s defense may be underrated nationally10:00 — David Stone, Kip Lewis, Owen Heinecke and Oklahoma’s defensive ceiling11:20 — Comparing Brent Venables’ OU defense to his Clemson defenses15:35 — OU player ratings, David Stone hype, and Kip Lewis appreciation21:00 — John Mateer, Ben Arbuckle and Oklahoma’s offensive continuity23:00 — Running back room concerns: Xavier Robinson, Tory Blaylock, Lloyd Avant and Deland McCullough27:10 — Can tight ends really fix Oklahoma’s run game?28:25 — Oklahoma’s 2026 win total and brutal SEC schedule30:35 — Michigan, Georgia, Texas and OU’s season-defining early stretch35:15 — John Mateer “Would You Rather” quarterback game begins37:30 — John Mateer or Connor Weigman?39:35 — John Mateer or Kevin Jennings?41:10 — John Mateer or CJ Carr?43:30 — John Mateer or Josh Hoover?46:40 — John Mateer or Marcel Reed?48:15 — John Mateer or Sam Leavitt?51:10 — John Mateer or Darian Mensah?57:00 — John Mateer or Gunnar Stockton?59:30 — John Mateer or Rocco Becht?01:01:10 — John Mateer or Arch Manning?01:03:55 — Notable other QBs around the nation01:11:00 — Brady Trantham’s wild OU rushing stat01:13:00 — Owen Heinecke preliminary injunction discussion01:14:15 — The UNC Charlotte example that may have helped Heinecke’s case01:17:40 — Grant’s view: Heinecke was probably always getting the injunction01:18:40 — Brendan Sorsby discussion begins01:19:45 — Sorsby timeline: gambling investigation, NCAA ruling, injunction and Big 12 response01:21:50 — NFL Supplemental Draft and CFL fallout for Sorsby01:23:00 — Courts, NCAA rules and the “toothless NCAA” debate01:45:20 — New NCAA eligibility rule lawsuits and where this could be headed01:46:35 — OU baseball wins the national championship01:47:40 — How OU baseball got hot at the perfect time01:51:50 — OU baseball’s title as a potential curse-breaker01:54:35 — Closing: follow West of Everest on YouTube, X, Instagram and Facebook

Lee and Grant are back after nearly 2 months off to discuss Owen Heinecke's legal action against the NCAA*. The Benson bros go over the twists and turns in the saga since they last recorded. But first, they go over major storylines in the OU Football universe since the last show. The Sooners have a new RB coach! John Mateer is changing his throwing motion! And oh yeah - Spring practice is nearly over and the Spring Game is randomly back. Come hang out with us for 2 hours. 145 days until UTEP...   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant are back to discuss the goings on in the world of OU Football in the last month. DeMarco Murray is no longer the most overpaid coach in college football, as the Chiefs do Oklahoma a huge solid. Jay Valai has been poached by the Buffalo Bills, and OU has a new Athletic Director. In the second half of the show - Lee and Grant have the most in-depth and honest discussion on the Owen Heinecke eligibility controversy that you will hear on the inter-webs. It is appointment listening if you want to understand the NCAA's decision. 201 days until UTEP...   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant are back to talk about the end of the 2025 college football season. Indiana has won a National Championship in tackle football, Curt Cignetti is the master of the universe, and Lee & Grant want to talk about DeMarco Murray and his failure in the RB room. But first, we put a wrap on OU's portal season and talk in-depth about Owen Heinecke's situation with the NCAA. 226 days until UTEP...   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant are back after a CFP-exit hiatus to discuss the goings on in the College Football Transfer Portal. OU has received 11 commits in the portal thus far, and Lee and Grant are going to rank their impact from 1 to 11. They also go over each of the 29 portal defections to tell you whether it's a big deal or not. All that, plus thoughts on new TE coach Jason Witten, the offensive coaching staff as a whole, and they give their pick for the National Championship game. Grant really despises Miami.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant are back to discuss OU's very difficult home loss to the Alabama Crimson Tide in the first round of the College Football Playoff. Come on in and let's all be miserable together. The sun will (hopefully) come out tomorrow.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

The Benson Bros are back after the bowl bye to preview Oklahoma's matchup in the first round of the College Football Playoff against the University of Alabama. Lee and Grant spend the first 90 minutes talking all about the Friday night matchup from every angle. Then, they wrap up the longest show in West of Everest history touching on ND's antics following their CFP snub (justice for the Pop Tarts Bowl!), shake their head at Sherrone Moore, and give their picks of the week. We all want to see John Mateer with a rose in his mouth late Friday night. If you're going to be in Norman, show up early, have some beverages, and cause a ruckus.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant are back to discuss the Oklahoma Sooners officially being in the 2025 College Football Playoff, and they're seeing a familiar foe - the Alabama Crimson Tide - fresh off their drubbing in the SEC Championship Game. Initial reactions from the WoE crew lie within. Please lend us thy ears.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

The Benson Bros are back and in good spirits as they bask in the glory of being idle during Championship Week while having a College Football Playoff spot all but wrapped up. We go over your Three Word Reviews from the LSU game, discuss who the Sooners might play in the First Round of the CFP, and then throw our hat in the ring of the Miami/Notre Dame debate. All that, and our Picks of the Week. Knibb High Football rules.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

The Benson Bros were in the stadium to see Oklahoma punch their ticket to the Playoff in a grimy win against stupid LSU. Lee and Grant go over their likes and dislikes from OU's win against the Tigers, have a heated argument over how a defender is supposed to tackle a quarterback, and give a slight lookahead to the College Football Playoff field. LSU is bad and everyone who likes them should feel bad. Peyton Bowen for Heisman.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Here at West of Everest, we're thankful for a win-and-in scenario heading into the season's final week. Lee and Grant are back to preview LSU's first ever trip to Norman. But first, Grant rants about knuckleheads, Brent Venables goes into detail about the running back room, then Lee and Grant talk about what they've been thankful for this football season. It's already Week 14 and time doesn't exist.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Grant and Lee are back following Oklahoma's ugly 17-6 victory over the Missouri Tigers. Brent Venables' defense is absolutely terrific. The offense...not so much. However, Lee and Grant are learning to accept this OU team for what it is as they give their likes and dislikes after OU's 9th win of the season. Plus, your Three Word Reviews. Jacobe Johnson for Heisman.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant Benson are back to preview the Missouri Tigers visiting Norman this weekend. Should OU be on upset alert off the emotional high of beating Alabama? Are there any healthy bodies in the RB room they can turn to? Is John Mateer capable of playing better? But first, we read your Three Word Reviews following last weekend's banger vs The Tide.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant are back the morning after Oklahoma earns their biggest win of the Brent Venables era, beating #4 Alabama 23-21 in Tuscaloosa. The Benson Bros go drive-by-drive, breaking down all of the key plays that led the Sooners to victory. Oklahoma likely controls their destiny to host a College Football Playoff game. Tate Sandell, Kip Lewis, Taylor Wein, and Eli Bowen for Heisman.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

We're back off a refreshing bye week to discuss OU's second consecutive CFP elimination game, this time deep in the heart of Dixie: Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Does OU's overmatched defense have any chance of slowing down Alabama's incredibly good—and certainly not fortunate—offense? The Benson Bros have a lively debate. Plus, we read your Three Word Reviews from the Tennessee game, and go over our Picks of the Week.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant have just arrived back from Tennessee after watching OU get a massive 33-27 dub over the Vols at Neyland Stadium. The Benson Bros recap the game, as well as their experience in Knoxville. Tate Sandell for Heisman.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Grant is back with Lee to discuss OU's daunting road trip to Neyland Stadium this weekend vs. Tennessee. Do John Mateer and the Sooners have what it takes to go into incredibly hostile territory and escape with a dub? One host thinks so, and another...not so much. But first, Grant gives his delayed thoughts on the bitterly disappointing loss to Ole Miss. All that, plus Picks of the Week.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Brady Trantham of Through the Keyhole and Sooners on SI joins Lee to recap OU's 34-26 loss to Ole Miss. The Sooners' defense couldn't get off the field in crucial scenarios and allowed the Rebels to possess the ball for way too long. OU's offense hit on a couple of massive touchdowns, but overall struggled to find consistency. The Sooners can still accomplish all of their goals, but this loss stings. Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

The Benson Bros are back to discuss OU's massive home matchup with Ole Miss. Will Veny be able to get over the proverbial hump as Lane Kiffin brings his squad into Norman for the first time? Is Kiffin playing mind games with Venables bringing up his propensity for stealing offensive signs? That, plus the picks of the week. Lets get a dub this week, eh?   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Before he hops on a plan to hobnob with the glitterati in London, Lee joins Grant to discuss Oklahoma's systematic takedown of the overmatched South Carolina Gamecocks. The Benson Bros are both very impressed with the Sooners' defensive effort, but are there cracks being shown that Ole Miss may exploit next week? Also, is John Mateer's thumb injury radically limiting this offense? Luckily, the OU offense may have found something in the run game at the perfect time in the schedule. On to Ole Miss.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee is back this week with Grant to talk about Oklahoma's first ever trip to the state of South Carolina to play a tackle football game. Can they continue their impressive knack for winning the week after playing Texas, or will they lose on the road following that game for the first time in 43 years? But first, Lee and Grant re-litigate last weekend's debacle at the Texas State Fair in excruciating detail.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Grant is joined by Brady Trantham to recap OU's dismal performance in the Red River Shootout against Texas. Who's more to blame - John Mateer or the defense? Is there any hope for the rest of season? Grant and Brady try to work through a difficult weekend for OU football fans.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets | Follow Brady on Twitter/X: @BradyDoesSports

Texas hasn't played poorly in the Red River Shootout in 13 years. Will this finally be the year that the Longhorns live up to their first 5 games and play a stinker? Will John Mateer defy the odds and return early from his broken thumb to etch his legacy in Red River lore? Lee and Grant are back this week to discuss the best, most competitive rivalry in American sports. Let's roll.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Grant is joined by Brady Trantham of Through the Keyhole and Sooner on SI fame to recap Oklahoma's 44-0 win over overmatched Kent State. Then, Grant and Brady shift their focus to Dallas - there are many thoughts on OU's matchup with the Longhorns, as well as Texas' loss to Florida this weekend.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets | Follow Brady on Twitter/X: @BradyDoesSports

The Benson Bros are back after a week off to discuss John Mateer's chances of playing in 10 days against Texas. Plus, is this finally the week for Jaydn Ott? What are our expectations for Michael Hawkins against probably the worst opponent OU will play this season? All that, plus Picks of the Week.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant are back to discuss the truly unfortunate John Mateer injury bombshell that dropped earlier this week. Are OU's hopes of a dream season cooked? Is Michael Hawkins up for the challenge? Then, Grant has more thoughts on Hideout-gate, we read your 3-Word Reviews from Auburn, and special 7-game Pick of the Week segment. Please, lend us your ears.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee and Grant are back to talk about OU's hard-fought win over Auburn in Jackson Arnold's return to Owen Field. Things weren't perfect, but the guys are mostly elated with OU's defensive performance and John Mateer's second half performance. A few weeks to rest up now until the schedule turns brutal in October. Meat and potatoes OU talk through and through. Give it a listen.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

The Benson Bros are back at full strength to talk about Jackson Arnold's return to Oklahoma. But first, Lee goes over his likes and dislikes from Temple after watching the game a day late.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets | Follow Brady on Twitter/X: @BradyDoesSports

Grant is joined by Brady Trantham of Through the Keyhole to recap Oklahoma's dominant 39-point win over Temple in Philly. How good is this OU defense? Is Jaren Kanak one of the best at his position in college football? Is the Jaydn Ott era at OU already over before its began? How good does it feel that Arch Manning is actually bad? Please, lend us your ears.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets | Follow Brady on Twitter/X: @BradyDoesSports

Lee and Grant are back to preview OU's odd road game Saturday against Temple. But first, we read your 3-Word Reviews from the sweet, sweet victory over Michigan, and wax gushingly over John Mateer and Jaren Kanak. Plus, Picks of the Week.   Note: Grant made an error during the Temple preview and referred to Saturday's game in Philadelphia as OU's first ever game in the state of Pennsylvania. That's hilariously wrong. OU has played in Pennsylvania 5 times (4x against Pitt, 1x against Temple), but this will be the first time in 41 years.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets   (0:00) Intro - Philadelphia: College Football Town (2:40) 3 Word Reviews (21:20) Jaren Kanak and Cooper Mathers Buddy Comedy, Who Says No? (30:05) John Mateer Is So Hot Right Now (38:52) Bad Boy Mowers Oklahoma Opponent Superlative Presented by Nissan (40:40) Temple Preview (1:07:40) National College Football Landscape (1:12:45) Picks of the Week

Lee and Grant discuss Oklahoma's big 24-13 win over the Michigan Wolverines. The guys go over their likes and (few) dislikes following the game. Real meat and potatoes OU talk here The vibes are immaculate.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

Fresh off a crazy Labor Day Weekend full of hot college football action, the Benson Bros are back to preview the biggest game of Brent Venables' tenure so far. But first, we talk about leftover thoughts from Illinois State, #FilmTimeWithLee is back, and what on earth is going on with Jaydn Ott and the OU backfield? Friends and countrymen, please lend us your ears.   Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets   (0:00) Intro: Lee Hates College Football History (7:40) #FilmTimeWithLee Makes Its Triumphant Return (20:55) Lee's Offensive Line Diatribe (39:42) Jaydn Ott is in a Great Headspace (52:00) OU Opponent Superlative (54:00) Oklahoma vs Michigan (1:32:00) National Landscape and Picks of the Week

The guys discuss Oklahoma's 35-3 season opening win over Illinois State. John Mateer breaks Baker Mayfield's passing record in an OU debut, Keontez Lewis delights, and the RB room confounds, as the defense keeps the Redbirds at arms length. Plus, we read your "3 -Word Reviews." College Football is back. Let's rejoice.   Subscribe to the show on Youtube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

We're only 2 days away from the kickoff of the 2025 season and Lee & Grant are back - this time in crystal clear high definition! The guys begin with a football meat sandwich - nearly an hour of depth chart talk, followed by the inaugural voyage of the OU Opponent Superlative (suggestions on rebranding very encouraged), Lee being aggravated by the sheer amount of Illinois State info, and finish up with the Picks of the Week.   We're on YouTube now: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets   (0:00) Intro - Showbiz Baby! (3:40) The Initial Depth Chart of the 2025 Season - 'tsup with the RBs? (23:29) Pass Catchers - We Hope Jaren Kanak is Good (36:00) Offensive Line - Lots o' ORs (45:30) Less Controversy on the Defensive Side of the Ball (53:20) Arbuckle and Veny Meet the Media (1:08:00) OU Opponent Superlative - Illinois State: Lee is Not a Fan (1:11:28) Illinois State Preview - Lee Prefers to Know Nothing About His Kills (1:22:25) What We Want to See Happen - OU Offense vs Illinois State Defense (1:27:35) What We Want to See Happen - OU Defense vs Illinois State Offense (1:29:35) What Will Happen - Game Predictions (1:32:40) National CFB Talk (1:39:38) Picks of the Week

We're only 9 days away from kickoff and the Benson Bros are back to discuss the end of Fall Camp in Norman. With Illinois State on deck, position coaches Todd Bates, Jay Valai, and Emmett Jones spoke with the media, and Grant has thoughts on how OU players look like with their shirts off. In the second hour, we discuss how the national media is looking at OU as the season begins, and we use Lee's pal Josh Pate for a fun hypothetical.   Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets   (0:00) Intro - Grant Is The New Producer Slash Host; Dow Drops 5,000 Points (8:45) Todd Bates Speaks to the Media: Meaty D-Line Talk (14:18) Markus Strong (19:38) Damonic Williams (25:02) David Stone: Film Junkie (30:08) Jayden Jackson & David Stone Are Cooking With Grease (37:18) - Jay Valai Speaks to the Media: He's Got Nicknames for Everyone (43:45) - Courtland Guillory and Devon Jordan Are Violent Within the Scheme (49:00) - Is Eli Bowen Cooked? (56:00) - Elijah Thomas is Malik Neighbors - Buy Your Tickets to Miami (1:03:05) - Danny Okoye - Be Still My Beating Heart (1:11:10) - The Solid Verbal's 5 Burning Questions for Oklahoma (1:30:00) - Cover 3 Podcast (1:36:45) - Josh Pate Has a Cool Take that Doesn't Make Sense (1:42:35) - Week 0 Picks

Lee and Grant discuss the absurd John Mateer/Venmo incident that was the biggest story in college football for one day in August of 2025. Then, they discuss the latest Fall Camp superlatives and throw a bunch of cold water on hype in the defensive secondary (sorry) before joining in on the hype over the defensive line. 16 days.... Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets   (0:00) Intro - The Theory of Relativity (8:22) Moneyline Mateer (30:20) First Fall Scrimmage (37:00) Follow-up on Injuries/Corner Talk (53:00) Bill Bedenbaugh and the Offensive Line (1:06:00) Jim Nagy, the Transfer Portal, and Recruiting (1:12:37) Cornerback Hype-Train and Lee & Grant Are No Fun (1:23:00) The D-Line: Hell Yeah (1:31:55) AP Top 25 and General College Football Talk

Lee and Grant are back and begin the show talking about the gaggle of minor injuries that have broken out at the beginning of Fall Camp, and somehow, Gentry Williams is not one of the infected. Are we worried about Jaydn Ott's shoulder injury? How concerning is Eli Bowen and Gracen Halton's absence nearly a week into Camp? Later, the guys discuss the emergence of Taylor Wein and Reggie Powers on the defensive side of the ball, and wonder what it means that Zion Kearney has started to rise to the top of the WR room. Come for the hot OU Football Talk, stay for the Independence Day references. Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant of Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

The guys are back and open the show talking some nonsense before diving into what you're really here for: hot OU Football talk. What's happened since our last episode? We've got you covered. And OU's season win total is set at 6.5 (3:20). SEC Media Days happened. It's over. Not much came out of it. Brent Venables talked for a long time. He mentioned some young players we may get to see play this fall. We couldn't get through much of the players so we're just gonna assume they didn't say anything of note. Plus some guy asked a really weird question about Navy (13:30). How are we feeling about Javonnie Gibson's injury (36:55)? Jackson Arnold made his second SEC Media Days appearance, but this time for a new team (40:45). Where do we think the SEC media will pick the Sooners to finish? Grant is putting a lot of stock in OU-Michigan (50:00). Thoughts on Joe Castiglione's upcoming retirement (1:04:35). The recruiting for 2026 doesn't sound like it's going very well, but a good 2025 season can easily reverse that trend. Are you pumped to tailgate on the North Oval (1:21:30)? Grant thinks this upcoming college football season is going to be pretty interesting. He doesn't see any obvious picks to win the National Championship (1:25:30). We read some comments from the WoE Facebook page and Lee admits he recently suffered a really stupid major injury (1:29:00). Some updates on the future of the podcast and how it may change in the coming weeks and months (1:34:00). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

After a brief intro the guys jump into talking about Gavin Sawchuk entering the transfer portal (2:15). The Sooners pick up a new wide receiver out of the portal and we have no idea if he will be a relevant player in 2025. Grant wishes OU would have paid a lot of money for the Cal transfer tight end (12:50). The Sooners picked up a new kicker out of the portal and we hope he makes field goals when asked to do so (22:40). We wanted OU to pick up a new corner out of the portal, but that didn't happen. The Sooners also lost a quarterback to the portal. Does this mean Hawkins has improved (31:10)? Danny Stutsman and Billy Bowman got drafted over the weekend plus the guys deal with some technical difficulties. Is it a problem that OU only had 2 players drafted in 2025 (38:30)? A shocking Dillon Gabriel draft position. Grant was bored by Shedeur Sanders taking up all the oxygen over the weekend (51:00). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The show opens with random NFL Draft and sports time zone talk before jumping into the David Stone situation. The guys had two very different reactions when the news broke last Friday. There's a lot to get into here (5:20). How did David Stone's freshman season compare to some recent other 5-star defensive linemen? Some guys are good right away, some aren't. Grant just wants more information about how these things happen, while Lee feels bad for Stone's situation. Where does the SOUL Mission come in here (26:30)? Breaking down John Mateer and Washington State's late-season 38-35 loss to New Mexico. It was a tale of two halves for Mateer and Ben Arbuckle shoulders some blame for this loss (47:45). Grant does not want OU to accept being a lesser tier program (1:11:10). You get Lee's live reaction to the Bears taking Colston Loveland at No. 10 for some reason. And Taylor Tatum is still on OU's roster (1:15:00). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

OU gets a big-time running back out of the transfer portal. Grant's super excited, while Lee is taking a more cautious approach (1:30). Jim Nagy has done an excellent job so far-- will he be able to bring in a tight end that actually helps (19:10)? Sam Franklin has entered the transfer portal. Grant thinks some other RBs will be out of here this spring (24:20). OU also brought in a solid interior offensive linemen who could challenge Troy Everett for the starting center job. What's the next position Jim Nagy is looking to fill from the portal (27:45)? Not much to take from the Crimson Combine. Is there any way to make a spring event, that's not the spring game, interesting (40:00)? Do you buy that Javonnie Gibson may be back for the start of the season (47:40)? We read some listener comments that are positive, pessimistic, and critical (52:35). The Nico Iamaleava saga (1:06:30). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

We don't waste any time as Grant jumps into the news that Javonnie Gibson has been injured (1:15). Trejan Bridges (13:00)?! Davon Mitchell has entered the transfer portal. Grant is not surprised in the least bit, while Lee finally watched Mitchell's HS senior highlight tape and was not impressed (19:10). So, the Crimson Combine is this weekend (29:45). Grant absolutely hated watching Washington State-Utah State from November 2024. This game showcased perhaps the best Mateer high-level quarterback moment so far, but also included some head-scratching mistakes and decisions. Stay tuned for a cameo from DJ Graham (34:10)! Grant wants to talk about OU men's basketball picking up a terrific guard out of the transfer portal (1:01:50). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Grant's feeling a bit more hopeful about the 2025 season lately, while Lee talks about having reasonable hope compared to blind hope. Nevertheless the vibes coming out of spring ball have been pretty good, particularly surrounding the WRs. Grant says it's reasonable to be excited about many parts of the roster, but there are 3-4 position groups with serious questions (2:05). We watched practice video of pass catchers taking on DBs in 1-on-1s and we've got a lot of thoughts. Probably the most we've talked about the tight ends in a long time (18:20). We also got 1-on-1s of the O-Line taking on the D-Line. Several practice thoughts commence. It seems reasonable to expect David Stone to make a jump based on the evidence on hand (37:35). It appears Lee's conspiracy theory about Gentry Williams was wrong (50:05). Brent Venables appeared with Josh Pate in a recent interview. Lee has many thoughts-- most of them negative, but we did learn at least a couple of things (53:40). Trae Young is now the assistant GM for men's basketball, but what does that mean? Rants about players transferring all the time (1:10:20). Lamenting the death of the traditional spring game (1:19:30). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The show announces a new presenting sponsor, Lee gets bleeped, and then we finally start talking about OU football. The guys are back on the practice field following spring break. Is anybody else getting a clear Dillon Gabriel/Jeff Lebby 2022 feeling with Mateer/Arbuckle? Is the Mayfield/Riley 2015 analogy more fitting? Plus fun nostalgic MTV Spring Break thoughts (2:50)! OU released a mic'd up video of Arbuckle and Mateer. There's a couple of interesting takeaways, mainly regarding two apparently key WRs (14:00). Lee doesn't understand the unnecessary expectations that was thrusted on two promising young offensive linemen. Grant doesn't find it to be that big of a deal (21:00). More reactions to the Oklahoma Breakdown Podcast as they recently talked about OU's running back room. Why does that position group not have any difference makers at the moment (32:40)? Mike Gundy's Bedlam spring proposal (42:40). Breaking down John Mateer's play in Washington State's 29-26 win over SDSU in Week 9. This game showed us something about Mateer that hopefully is a very positive sign for the future (46:00). For basketball fans, we talk about OU's first round exit to UConn in the NCAA Tournament (1:13:55).

After some brief basketball talk the guys get to talking about the ramifications of Jayden Gibson suffering a small setback in his recovery from his knee injury (1:50). Javonnie Gibson has a lot of people talking early in spring practice. Is this real (16:00)? We're all rooting for Jaren Kanak to be a good tight end (21:20). Who knows what's going to happen with the running back room (28:15)? Grant's excited about what he's heard about Troy Everett. Lee wants to know if it's okay to be positive about the offensive line again (32:50)? Let's talk about David Stone and what the defensive line could look like, but we must remind everybody that OU's secondary is a problem. And Grant wants to talk about Taylor Heim (41:15). Breaking down John Mateer's performance against Hawaii in Week 8 of the 2024 season. The stats were terrific (47:50). We give some love to the OU men's basketball team who looks to be on their way to the NCAA Tournament (57:45). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The guys are back and jump right into what Brent Venables said Wednesday at his pre-spring press conference. Venables had another incredibly long opening statement. He also announced players who will not be active during spring practice (2:05). Venables also confirmed that he did not call OU's defense in 2024 (16:30). OU will not have a spring game in 2025. Grant is not happy about college football slowly transitioning to more of a pro football model. Can the "Crimson Combine" be successful (19:10)? Thoughts on Jim Nagy being named OU's GM. What do we hope he's good at? Is the NFL front office model the future? Grant's open to this being a good hire, but the OU football program has not earned the benefit of the doubt the past three years (32:40). Grant takes a look at the preseason SP+ rankings. Let's all nervously laugh at OU's super hard schedule (50:45). Lee goes over some of the things John Mateer said at his first OU press conference. We finish up by breaking down Mateer's performance against Fresno St. during the 2024 season. Mateer did not play well (57:45). Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

We open the show with some brief talk about the upcoming segment breaking down Washington State's Week 5 game against Boise State. After that they jump into the news that Kevin Wilson has reportedly been added to the staff as an offensive analyst (2:50). The Washington State-Boise State game was a good watch and super interesting. John Mateer played pretty well against the best team he saw all season. He made one horrible mistake, but him and Ben Arbuckle continue to raise Washington State's offense (15:25). We take a look at OU's 2025 schedule and try to predict what OU's Vegas win total will be. What should be the expectation for number of wins in 2025 (50:40)? Grant jinxed the basketball team months ago. Yes, we finish up the show with our half-baked thoughts on the men's team being bad. Lee also has a quick plug for a separate podcast (1:00:55). Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The guys jump right into the news that DeMarco Murray was a candidate for the Penn State running backs coach job, but will stay at OU after all. Lock in for another DeMarco Murray/OU running backs discussion (1:30). Lee did not quite realize how lowly ranked OU's 2025 signing class is. This takes us on a journey of OU's previous recruiting classes. The 2017 class was incredible (28:05). Over to the John Mateer/Ben Arbuckle 2024 watch as Washington State won a 54-52 2OT shootout against San Jose State. Mateer and Arbuckle continued to show a lot of promise, while Mateer also provided two massive lowlights. Through 4 games we are still very much pleased about what we've seen from both Mateer and Arbuckle (41:20). Jalen Hurts and the Eagles dominated the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Unfortunately, it was a very poor game (1:14:00). The guys inexplicably close the show with thoughts on the OU men's basketball team (1:23:35). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Grant opens the show by reminding everybody that DeMarco Murray and Joe Jon Finley continue to be on staff and presents a new conspiracy theory. We transition smoothly to OU bringing on Nate Dreiling and Wes Goodwin to coach linebackers. Brent Venables also announced that he will be calling plays in 2025 (7:45). Ben Arbuckle is going to make $1.5M per year (25:05). Thoughts on John Mateer and Ben Arbuckle in Washington State's win in Week 3 over Washington. There's a lot of good with this duo through three games (28:10). Brian Hartline is going to be the next OC at Ohio State. Grant really likes this guy (1:04:45). Obligatory thoughts on the upcoming Super Bowl matchup (1:07:05). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The guys are back to talk about Jim Knowles leaving Ohio State, but not taking the OU job. Grant's not happy that OU may have lost a head-to-head battle with Penn State. Could OU have matched Penn State's offer and chose not to? Was this all about Knowles getting closer to home? We think the ceiling for 2025 could have been much higher with Jim Knowles on staff. Plus more comparisons to the 90s (1:15). We continue our breakdown of John Mateer's 2024 season at Washington State by providing our thoughts on Wazzu's 37-16 win over Texas Tech in Week 2. Mateer was not very sharp through the air, but was dazzling with his legs running the football. We saw some good from Ben Arbuckle... and some bad (36:45). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The guys are back to talk about the latest Jim Knowles rumors (2:00). Curtis Lofton stepped down as OU's GM recently (27:10). We begin our season-long watch of John Mateer and Ben Arbuckle at Washington State. First up is Wazzu's Week 1 win over Portland State (36:00). The guys give their thoughts on Ohio State winning the National Championship and Grant is still not enjoying the expanded playoff now that we're through the first year (57:40). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Grant opens the show with some recent news that required a visit to urgent care. We get past that to get to the great news that R Mason Thomas is coming back and FSU transfer Marvin Jones Jr. will join him on the defensive line (3:20) OSU transfer Kendal Daniels is joining the roster as well. What will be his role? Grant seems to think he could play more linebacker than DB (11:20). Lee saw a tweet that caught his eye that leads to a major hypothetical situation that involves OU's defensive coordinator opening (19:15). Joe Jon Finley and DeMarco Murray continue to be on staff. Is it possible Ben Arbuckle can improve the offensive staff as a whole (27:00)? We answer a listener question about the types of players OU has gotten out of the transfer portal so far. Brent Venables' formula for 2025 is looking more and more clear (34:20). We wrap it up with our final thoughts on the CFP semifinals and how the first year of the 12-team playoff has not been as fun as we had hoped (43:40). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

In the opening take, Lee gives his thoughts on Zac Alley's departure from OU's coaching staff. Then Grant joins to give his take on the matter and what it may mean (7:40). Who's going to be hired as the next defensive coordinator? What will it tell us, if anything (17:00)? OU has gotten some good news lately with some important players announcing their returns in 2025. What's up with that cryptic R Mason Thomas post? Plus we look at what you can hope for if things are going to go well for OU in 2025 (29:25). Lewis Carter entered the portal and OU has not made any staff changes. Plus we go over some other news and notes after OU adds some more random guys from the portal (48:20). Some College Football Playoff talk as Grant laments Texas and their path. Plus it's clear the seeding format needs to be tweaked (56:00). The guys make their picks for the CFP Semifinals (1:03:10). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

OU closed out the season with a 21-20 loss to Navy in the Armed Forces Bowl. The Sooners finish 6-7 for the second time in the last three years. Join us as we go over all the ups and downs of another OU loss, read your 3-word reviews, and try to figure out what's going to happen next in the world of OU football. | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The first 10 minutes is Grant announcing this is now a basketball podcast, Lee asking Grant a pressing question about Colosseum in Rome, and the history of humans consuming combat sports. To OU football and the news that John Mateer received a call from Baker Mayfield. Lee wonders if Brent Venables is trying to recreate the Jeff Lebby/Dillon Gabriel recipe? Looking at OU's transfer portal additions, Grant wants to know what the goal is for next season (9:45)? Lee wonders if OU has a chance to get an offensive tackle from Washington State? Plus we talk about more former OU players finding homes at new places (30:15). We move our attention to the Armed Forces Bowl matchup against Navy. The betting line has moved significantly against OU. We talk about the interesting storylines and what we want to see in this game. Can this one bowl game mean anything for the future (37:00)? Grant did a great job predicting the first round of the CFP games. We have thoughts on people complaining about Indiana and SMU being a part of the tournament (54:10). We make some picks in random bowl games this week (1:08:15). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Grant is back from Rome. Deion Burks is returning to OU. Grant is hoping OU is not breaking the bank for him. Lee struggles to care about all the money stuff (2:30). BREAKING: John Mateer commits to OU in the middle of the pod. Will/can OU now go get a top tier WR out of the portal? The tight end room looks to be a mess and an unknown (13:10). Is OU bargain shopping in the portal? Will Joe Jon Finley and DeMarco Murray be on staff after the bowl game (33:25)? OU got commitments from a tackle from Stanford and a punter from Kennesaw State. Grant goes over some defensive targets for OU (41:45). What's going to happen with Damonic Williams (46:50)? Jackson Arnold is off to Auburn and LSU is taking two of OU's offensive players. Kalib Hicks will look to get some playing time at OSU and Makari Vickers is off to Colorado (55:15). Alex Grinch is the new DC at UCF and Bill Belichick is going to be a head coach in college football (1:03:30). We make our Playoff picks against the spread and randomly also pick the Hawaii Bowl (1:11:20). Grant predicted almost exactly how the 2024 season would play out (1:26:00). Some parting thoughts about OU-Navy in the Armed Forces Bowl (1:27:00). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

In the opening take, Lee tries to figure out what OU's going to do to address their need for wide receivers in the transfer portal. Then Lee continues this solo show by talking about why he's struggling to find interest in all the recent OU news. He goes over some of the non-wide receivers who are departing through the transfer portal before taking a first look at the Sooners Armed Forces Bowl matchup with Navy. Lee has an issue with the way the Playoff teams are ranked, but he thinks the First Round matchups mostly have a lot of promise. He finishes up by taking a quick look at how OU's 2025 schedule sets up. | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The guys open the show briefly talking a little bit about Grant's upcoming trip to Europe, before getting into more important topics like Ben Arbuckle being hired as OU's offensive coordinator. We give our initial thoughts and go over some positive numbers. We also compare some of Arbuckle's numbers to Lincoln Riley and Seth Littrell (2:40). Venables announced that he will retain the offensive staff. Will that actually hold into 2025 (29:30)? Jackson Arnold is going to enter the transfer portal. Will Wazzu's John Mateer come to OU (42:50)? OU's going to need a lot of help on offense in 2025. Nic Anderson is entering the transfer portal as well. OU's injuries plus running back talk (53:30). Where do you stand on Deion Burks (1:02:50)? OU held on to Michael Fasusi, but the 2025 recruiting class is the lowest ranked for the Sooners in more than a decade (1:06:00). We read some comments from the WoE Facebook page (1:12:45). Discussing the College Football Playoff rankings. Grant's okay with Alabama being in line to get in. Lee thinks Miami is being under ranked. Grant was way out ahead of one very obvious problem with the current playoff system and Lee apologizes for going over the odds on who will win the National Championship (1:23:30). We finish up with our picks for Conference Championship Weekend (1:36:40). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The guys discuss OU's 37-17 loss at LSU to close the regular season at 6-6 (2-6). It does appear the Alabama game was indeed an outlier outcome as the Sooners reverted back to what they've been for most of 2024. Grant has some historical analytical stats that show where the program is now compared to the 90s. After much big picture discussion, the guys jump into the actual game and go through all the big moments (and bad moments) that led to OU losing at LSU. At least one listener disagrees with our thoughts on Brent Venables and Lee brings up one coach who may be the best case scenario comp to Venables if he's going to succeed at OU. Plus we read your "3-Word Reviews". | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Brent Venables opens the show with his story of late night Taco Bell following the win over Alabama. The guys are incredibly excited about this development and go into detail about why (00:00). Venables admitted he failed on the Seth Littrell hire. Does this do anything for you? Did the Alabama game show us what OU could have been this season with a competent offense (10:10)? Venables joked about DeMarco Murray finally letting Xavier Robinson play more. We don't think this is a laughing matter (20:35). We look at the improvement in OU's rush offense in the four games since Joe Jon Finley has been calling plays (27:00). Doesn't sound like Deion Burks or Jalil Farooq will be available this week (33:05). We preview the LSU game with all of the most interesting aspects of this matchup. LSU's pass offense is elite. Can OU's DBs cover? LSU's defense is not good. Can OU's offense replicate the success they had against Alabama? Venables has a chance to prove the Bama game was not a fluke (36:45). Brief thoughts on the SEC slate, followed by our weekly picks. Games include Memphis-Tulane/South Carolina-Clemson/Notre Dame-USC/Miami-Syracuse/Texas-Texas A&M (59:10). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The Sooners proved us wrong in all the best ways by beating No. 7 Alabama 24-3 Saturday in Norman. The offensive gameplan was terrific and included a lot of creative designs in the run game. Xavier Robinson continued to look like the best running back on the team. Joe Jon Finley deserves a ton of credit for his gameplan and execution. OU's defense was fantastic against a great Alabama offense. That was the best defensive performance since when?? And we read your 3-Word Reviews. | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The guys start out with some positive news about Xavier Robinson being available this week against Alabama. However, it slowly transitions into the negative because we have no interest in sugar coating this stuff (2:30). Do you want to see other QBs play the rest of the season? We revisit the Dillon Gabriel/Jackson Arnold discussion and Lee has came around closer to where Grant was months ago (11:40). Jackson Arnold just recently began getting some QB coaching (24:30). Why is Jacobe Johnson still repping at wide receiver? No matter how you spin it, much of this season looks very bad for Brent Venables (30:00). We read some comments about OU's offensive coordinator search from the WoE FB page. Lee is having a tough time getting into this because he doesn't think it really matters. What would Dan Mullen, Ben Arbuckle, or Joe Craddock do for you (35:50)? What would it take for you to take Lincoln Riley back at OC for OU (45:50)? Grant can't find many reasons to be compelled by this OU-Alabama matchup. We talk about it for a little bit, anyways (48:20). Grant does not like the super conferences and he is not enjoying this college football season. Lee is the exact opposite and says this season has been great. I guess it comes down to what you want out of college football (53:30). We make our picks against the spread in Indiana-Ohio State/Ole Miss-Florida/Penn State-Minnesota/Colorado-Kansas/Army-Notre Dame (1:03:10).

Lee tells us what's coming up on the show today before the guys briefly talk about OU's upcoming primetime kickoff against Alabama (0:00). Joe Harroz and Joe Castiglione gave Brent Venables a vote of confidence this week. For some reason the discussion leads Lee to think of former Tennessee HC Butch Jones (7:40). Joe Castiglione stopped short of committing to Brent Venables for next season (17:45). Turns out that OU giving Venables a new contract in June increased the Venables buy-out. This move looks horrible in hindsight and it's another reason why Grant is concerned about the future of OU (21:30). Lee found a former head coach that may end up being a very close comp to Brent Venables' time at OU (30:40). We look back at all the other notable head coaching hires from the 2022 cycle. It's pretty easy to tell if each team has found their guy, or not (38:00). Some brief CFP rankings talk. Grant's not loving the way this season is playing out (54:00). Taking a look at the SEC slate as well as a brief look back at the 2020 OU defense (56:30) before making our picks against the spread. Games include LSU-Florida/Nebraska-USC/Arizona St.-KSU/Tennessee-Georgia/Kansas-BYU (1:02:10). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

OU's loss to Missouri was more of the same as the Brent Venables era looks to be coming to a close. The only question is, "When?" | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

In the opening take, Lee talks about something very serious that impacts everybody who listens to this show. Please listen to this critical message. Then Grant joins to talk about getting after it a little too much bending the elbow and how to combat a hangover (4:30). Grant gives his thoughts on the OU-Maine game. Jovantae Barnes and Xavier Robinson are discussed. Jackson Arnold's play and the defense as a whole (7:30). Will Jalil Farooq and/or Deion Burks play against Missouri? Grant's got the SEC Availability report hot off the press. Jovantae Barnes is questionable. The O-Line is back to being injured (20:15). What's the most intriguing storyline for OU-Missouri? Missouri may start a backup QB in the game, which should be a chance for OU's defense to have a good time. Are both fanbases not expecting their team to win (32:10)? Is it a problem that people are asking if this is the most important game for Brent Venables since he's been at OU (44:10)? The CFP Rankings are out. Let's assess the projected matchups (53:15). Looking at the SEC slate. If Florida's QB was healthy, it may be interesting vs. Texas. SC-Vandy is a tough handicap, and would Josh Heupel run it up on Jeff Lebby (59:00)? We make our picks coming off a good week for Grant. The games are Georgia-Ole Miss/ISU-Kansas/Michigan-Indiana/Colorado-Texas Tech/Alabama-LSU (1:05:30). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Oklahoma picked up its 5th win of the season beating Maine 59-14 Saturday. Lee talks about the offensive explosion, this new version of Jovantae Barnes, Jackson Arnold continued his solid play, and a big picture look at OU's defense that doesn't bode well for Brent Venables. Plus we read your "3-Word Reviews". | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

In the opening take, Lee tries to find out the correct degrees of blame for OU's offensive line being terrible. Then Grant joins to give his thoughts on the offensive line and push back on some of the points Lee made. As much as we didn't want to do this, we do a long segment on the offensive line, previous recruiting classes, Bill Bedenbaugh's coaching ability, and how much blame Lincoln Riley deserves (8:00). Grant says OU being bad is boring. Brent Venables had a long press conference this week that didn't amount to much. We got some injury updates at least, Lee brings up his injury conspiracy theory again, and Grant takes another victory lap over his Jacobe Johnson take from weeks ago (37:15). We do a thought exercise involving OU losing to Maine. No, we don't want OU to lose to Maine. I'm sorry but we really like Curt Cignetti (46:00). What's the most boring result in the OU-Maine game? Grant tells us what he wants to see in this game and he goes all the way in on DeMarco Murray so get your popcorn (55:10). We thank listeners for their 5-star podcast reviews (59:00). SEC talk focuses on Grant laying out why Hugh Freeze should be inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame (1:03:50). We make our picks against the spread. Games include Ohio State-Penn State/Ole Miss-Arkansas/Minnesota-Illinois/Oregon-Michigan/Texas A&M-South Carolina (1:10:00). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Definitely a tale of two halves in Oxford this weekend. OU went into halftime enjoying a 14-10 lead over one of the better teams in college football, but the Sooners came back down to earth in the final 30 minutes. What went right? What went wrong? Jovantae Barnes had his best game as a Sooner. Jackson Arnold played solid and does seem to have a lot of potential. This OU's best game running the ball this season. The offensive line can't pass block, but somehow they were able to run block pretty well. As always we read your "3-Word Reviews". | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Lee strikes a negative tone to start the show, which Grant calls him on. Early thoughts on what to expect when OU plays Ole Miss this Saturday (0:00). Brent Venables talked for the first time about firing Seth Littrell. How is OU going to deal with recruiting offensive players during this time (8:00)? What will Venables be looking for in his next OC? Lee has a bit of a problem with what Venables said. We look back to what we were thinking when Seth Littrell was hired (19:50). Early look at who could be candidates for OU's OC job (30:20). Venables wanted a new voice, new perspective, new strategy and game planning when it comes to offense. Will we notice? What can Kevin Johns bring to the table now that he's an assistant coach (36:00)? We found out Gavin Sawchuk is injured. Why can't OU just totally change their offense moving forward? It can't get any worse right? The running back room is still not good (43:10). Grant's got a lot of good stuff on Ole Miss. The Rebels are a damn good team (49:40). What's the blueprint for an improbable OU victory (1:00:30)? Thanking listeners for their 5-star reviews (1:08:10). A brief look at the SEC slate (1:11:40) followed by our picks against the spread. We pick Boise State-UNLV/Notre Dame-Navy/BYU-UCF/Missouri-Alabama/LSU-Texas A&M (1:13:40). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Lot to talk about today. Grant wants people to stop saying "is this rock bottom?" (0:00). What does it mean for the future of the program now that Seth Littrell has been fired? Do you have any confidence that Brent Venables can find the right offensive coordinator? (6:00). The rest of the episode is essentially us talking about why it's over for Brent Venables (16:00). We go to the WoE Facebook page and X to read listener "3-word reviews" and comments before wrapping up the show with final thoughts (58:45). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

OU had a players-only meeting after the loss to Texas, so that must mean everything is fixed. Brent Venables had some puzzling thoughts about OU's running game against Texas when it comes to efficient successful plays and explosive plays. Is OU's offense too complicated? Grant gets going early with a rant about the state of the program (2:25). We're not interested in how Lincoln Riley left the program. It's Year 3 for Brent Venables (22:40). Let's say some nice things about Eli Bowen. Before we talk about OU's confusing cornerback usage against Texas (29:10). Lee says it's getting harder and harder to take this season one game at a time. Also, the running back room is not good and it's very frustrating. Yes Tawee Walker comes up (35:15). Deion Burks is questionable to play against South Carolina. What about the QBs? What's Venables' plan for Hawkins and Jackson Arnold the rest of the season (45:50)? What's there to say about this upcoming game against SC? Hoping for the best (51:20). Highlighting some past 5-star West of Everest reviews on Apple Podcasts (55:40). A quick look at the SEC slate before we make our picks against the spread. Games include Nebraska-Indiana/Alabama-Tennessee/Michigan-Illinois/LSU-Arkansas/Georgia-Texas (57:30). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

One host is a little more fired up than expected, while the other host is apathetic towards OU's latest beatdown at the hands of Texas. One thing we can all agree on is the offense being awful. The Sooners are officially the worst offense in P4 football. The one thing we can't agree upon is the state of the defense and how well (or not well) it played Saturday at the Cotton Bowl. How is it possible at this point to defend anybody on the offensive staff? We read your "3-Word Reviews" and briefly look ahead to next week's game against South Carolina. | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

Grant briefly describes being at the Minnesota-USC game and storming the field after the Gophers' win (1:10). We jump into what we learned from the Brent Venables news conference. Should OU use Texas as a measuring stick? OU's been the better team several years over the last generation and we wish the Sooners would have won more of them (3:00). Lee was proven wrong following last week's injury-related game. Dasan McCullough seems to be on track to play this week. What will his role be? Will Deion Burks be available? If there's no Burks, will Jacobe Johnson have a role on offense (11:50)? Quinn Ewers seems likely to start for Texas. Talking about Ewers and Arch Manning (22:00). Did Trace Ford give Texas some bulletin board material (27:00)? Lee's got some bye-related OU-Texas facts and figures. It's been more than 50 years since the Sooners beat Texas coming off a bye. Could that win in 1972 be a blueprint for OU beating Texas Saturday (31:45)? The guys don't see much of a point to dive deep into the matchups of this game because OU's offense is just so poor and Texas is really good on both sides of the ball. Something unexpected is going to have to happen in order for OU to win. Grant is curious to see if OU's offense will pull back the tempo (40:50). If OU had just a "good" offense Lee would be very confident in OU winning (49:20). The SEC Availability Report is hot off the press. This may mean good news for one OU running back. We also praise Luke Elzinga for being good at punting (55:00). Michael Hawkins should not be intimidated by the moment. Random thoughts on Auburn's offense, Grant has a prop on Gavin Sawchuk, and we wrap up the OU-Texas preview talk (1:01:40). Thoughts on the 2:30 kickoff time, Lee's going to a lot of State Fairs this year, and the guys talk about their first OU-Texas experience which was the 2008 game (1:07:30). We thank listeners for your 5-star reviews on Apple Podcasts (1:15:20). Thoughts on Vanderbilt's win over Alabama and we go over the SEC slate for Week 7. Also, Texas has a surprisingly difficult road schedule the rest of the season (1:18:30). Lee has one other thought about the QBs Texas has played this season and then we make weekly picks on Washington-Iowa/Penn State-USC/Ohio State-Oregon/Ole Miss-LSU/Kansas State-Colorado (1:27:15). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets

The guys open the show talking about lunch, feelings about bye weeks, and Grant's plans to attend the USC-Minnesota game this weekend (00:00). Deion Burks and Taylor Tatum have a chance to play against Texas in a couple of weeks (7:40). We dive deeper into several of OU's injured players. Who will play again this season? Who will not be back? We play a stupid game to give our answers. Lee has a theory on Gentry Williams' latest injury and we also talk about how maybe Jacobe Johnson should be moved back to corner (10:35). OU's a large underdog to Texas right now. We give our early thoughts on the matchup (41:30). We go over the things we like and dislike so far about the 2024 OU Football team (53:20). The guys talk about how they got into following OU football and how we got to the point where this podcast is in the midst of its 8th season (1:10:00). We thank those who have left 5-star reviews on Apple Podcasts. We appreciate your support (1:22:50)! There's some interesting SEC matchups this week. Grant really likes the new SEC on ABC theme (1:27:20). We make our weekly picks. The games are Missouri-A&M/Ole Miss-South Carolina/Michigan-Washington/USC-Minnesota/Miami-Cal. Plus some talk about the crazy world that is Big 12 football this season (1:33:45). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonTweets