Bible and Homosexuality: An LGBTQ Positive View

This episode challenges conventional messages on well-being and prompts listeners to question what truly contributes to their wellbeing and living “The Good Life.”

Podcast produced by: ⁠⁠Elton Sherwin⁠⁠

Audio edited and enhanced with: ⁠⁠Descript Studio Sound ⁠⁠ 

Episode Cover art: Microsoft Copilot

#Bible

#Christian

#Affirming

Pastor Danielle Parrish explores the profound biblical narrative of lost sheep, coins, and sons, emphasizing God's inclusive love.

She challenges traditional interpretations by asserting the equal importance of women in Jesus' teachings, presenting a powerful message of inclusivity and unconditional love.

Drawing from her deep understanding of first-century Jewish cultural, she takes you on a journey through Luke 15, highlighting the interconnectedness of lost sheep, lost coins, and a prodigal son, viewing these parables as one continuous narrative that invites everyone to God's table of celebration.

Danielle Parrish is the lead pastor of Spark Church, in Palo Alto, California: www.spark.church

Scriptures quoted: • Luke 15 • Ephesians 3:14-19 • Galatians 3:28

Podcast produced by: ⁠⁠Elton Sherwin⁠⁠

Audio edited and enhanced with: ⁠⁠Descript Studio Sound ⁠⁠

#Bible

#Christian

#Affirming

#ProdigalSon

#Inclusive

The podcast reflects on Pastor Steve Reed's Christmas letter, lamenting the changes in white evangelicalism and criticizing its failure to align with Jesus' teachings.

Podcast produced by: ⁠⁠Elton Sherwin⁠⁠

Audio edited and enhanced with: ⁠⁠Descript Studio Sound ⁠⁠ 

Synthesized speech using: ⁠⁠ https://maestra.ai/

Episode cover art generated by https://pixlr.com AI prompt: “a patriotic American Jesus”

#Bible

#Christian

#Affirming

#Borderwall

#Refugees

#Immigrantion

We discuss the deeply flawed practice of trying to change someone's sexual orientation.

Related Episodes:

8. Paul, Gay Marriage and Gender Pronouns

11. Why Young Christians Are Leaving the Church and Some Are Committing Suicide

12. The Problems with Purity

13. When Is Sex Between Two Unmarried People God Honoring? (Seven rules for sex between unmarried people)

21. A Trans Christian's Quest for Authenticity

Movies Referenced:

Boy Erased: https://www.netflix.com/title/80240538

Pray Away: https://www.netflix.com/title/81040370

Articles and Websites Quoted:

Statistics quoted:

Finding Affirming, Sex-Positive Counselors Who Do NOT Believe in Conversion Therapy:

On-line therapy:

Benefits of Church Attendance for Adults and Children:

Additional References and Resources

All quotes edited for clarity and brevity, and red by descript not the original authors.

The vibrant diversity of gender-fluid and non-binary individuals in Native American cultures; the tragic ban of same-sex marriages by the Navajo Nation Council; and the role of Christian churches in a cultural genocide, which attempted to erase the history of Two-Spirit individuals and their unique and respected roles in many tribes.

Quoted or referenced in podcast:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/10/23/navajo-gay-marriage-ban-lgbtq/

https://lgbtqhealth.ca/community/two-spirit.php

https://www.ihs.gov/lgbt/health/twospirit/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/oct/11/two-spirit-people-north-america

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%203%3A28&version=RSV

Additional References

https://www.theindigenousfoundation.org/articles/the-history-of-two-spirit-folks

https://www.kqed.org/arts/13845330/5-two-spirit-heroes-who-paved-the-way-for-todays-native-lgbtq-community

https://www.them.us/story/lgbtq-two-spirit-native-americans-changing-the-world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit

Podcast produced by: ⁠⁠Elton Sherwin⁠⁠

Audio edited and enhanced with: ⁠⁠Descript Studio Sound ⁠⁠ 

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#Affirming

Aiden Yang's transformation as he liberates the good troublemaker within, explores the Beatitudes, and finds inspiration from rapper Bad Bunny.

Aiden Yang, a Trans-Christian Asian American, describes the many challenges to living true to your authentic self: Challenges from your church; challenges from your family; and challenges from a capitalist society.

Aiden takes you on a transformative journey to embrace your shadow self and live authentically. Aiden shares insights from his personal experience and draws parallels with the Beatitudes, challenging societal norms and finding inspiration from rapper Bad Bunny's countercultural journey.

Aiden’s website: https://aidensyang.com

About Aiden:

Aiden’s book, “The Spineless Porcupine: Why Our Differences Are Superpowers”

Aiden’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/love_n_cr8ivity/

Aiden’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sayme/

This sermon was originally delivered at Bethel Community Church in San Leandro, CA and has been edited for this podcast.

https://bethelcommunitysl.org

Podcast produced by: ⁠⁠Elton Sherwin⁠⁠

Audio edited and enhanced with: ⁠⁠Descript Studio Sound ⁠⁠ 

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#Affirming

1946

About the movie: 1946 - THE MISTRANSLATION THAT SHIFTED CULTURE

This is a feature documentary that follows the story of tireless researchers who trace the origins of the anti-gay movement among Christians to a grave mistranslation of the Bible in 1946.

It chronicles the discovery of never-before-seen archives at Yale University which unveil astonishing new revelations, and casts significant doubt on any biblical basis for LGBTQIA+ prejudice.

Movie Reviews:

“POSSIBLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FILM OF THE DECADE…” Steve Koplan, UNSEEN FILMS

“…one of the most engaging and informative documentaries I've ever seen. Not only is it highly watchable, but it has the potential to be ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL FILMS OF THE CENTURY as it seeks to prove that queerness and religion were never meant to be at odds. A must-watch for anyone trying to reconcile the two. ” Matthew Huff, BUZZFEED

Website: https://www.1946themovie.com

Newsletter: https://www.1946themovie.com/subscribe

GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/1946themovie

Social media handle: @1946themovie on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook

The movie’s team:     

Women Make Movies: https://www.wmm.com/sponsored-project/1946-the-mistranslation-that-shifted-culture

Podcast written and produced by: ⁠⁠Elton Sherwin⁠⁠

Audio edited and enhanced with: ⁠⁠Descript Studio Sound ⁠⁠ 

Synthesized speech using: ⁠⁠Speechelo⁠⁠

#Bible

#Christian

#Affirming

7 Bible scriptures that are MISUSED to condemn the LGBTQIA+ Community.

Janet sets the record straight.

In this episode, the second half of Janet Edmonds new leaflet, we look at 7 Bible scriptures that are INCORRECTLY used to condemn sexual minorities.

Links to Janet's writing:

Janet's leaflet, read in this podcast: GOD LOVES YOU - God Loves All of the LGBTQIA+ Community!!

More details and scholarly references can be found in Janet’s longer white paper which is published several places:

Podcast written and produced by: ⁠⁠Elton Sherwin⁠⁠

Audio edited and enhanced with: ⁠⁠Descript Studio Sound ⁠⁠ 

Synthesized speech using: ⁠⁠Speechelo⁠⁠

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#Affirming

Using the Bible to condemn all queer people is a MISINTERPRETATION of the original scriptures and the initial purpose of why they were written.

In this episode, the first half of Janet Edmonds new leaflet, a look at two AMAZING Bible scriptures that are AFFIRMING and ENCOURAGING for the LGBTQIA+ Community.

Links to Janet's writing:

Janet's leaflet, read in this podcast: GOD LOVES YOU - God Loves All of the LGBTQIA+ Community!!

More details and scholarly references can be found in Janet’s longer white paper which is published several places:

Podcast written and produced by: ⁠⁠Elton Sherwin⁠⁠

Audio edited and enhanced with: ⁠⁠Descript Studio Sound ⁠⁠ 

Synthesized speech using: ⁠⁠Speechelo⁠⁠

#Bible

#Christian

#Affirming

Did God cancel Leviticus and its archaic and unjust laws?

We look at Isaiah 56 and a conservative Bible commentary. The results are surprising.

Three Scriptures used in this episode:

· Isaiah 56: 4-5(ESV)

· Leviticus 18: 22(ESV)

· Leviticus 21: 18-20(NIV)

Quoted in this Episode:

The Enduring Word Commentary by David Guzik

AboutIsaiah 56: 4-5The Enduring Word Commentary says:

“This also PROPHESIES THE PASSING OF THE DOMINANCE OF THE LEVITICAL ORDER.

“Clearly, giving eunuchs a place and a name in God’s house CONTRADICTED the command of LEVITICUS 21:17-20. BUT UNDER A COMING NEW COVENANT, THERE IS A HIGHER PRINCIPLE AT WORK THAN THE SHADOWS OF THE LEVITICAL LAW.”

Leviticus is describing who is EXCLUDED from the PRIESTHOODLeviticus 21: 18-20

“No man who has any DEFECT may come near: no man who is BLIND or LAME, DISFIGURED or DEFORMED; no man with a CRIPPLED FOOT or hand, or who is a HUNCHBACK or a DWARF, or who has any EYE DEFECT, or who has festering or RUNNING SORES or DAMAGED TESTICLES.”

#bible #biblestudy #affirming #gaychristian #queerchristian #Christian #exvangelical #pride #Lgbt #gay #ally #lgbtqia #trans

“For, there are some who have been gay from birth, so knit together in their mother's wombs and created in God's image.”

This is a modern, amplified translation of Jesus' words from Matthew 19: 11-12 and the topic of this episode.

Scripture quoted:

· Matthew 19: 11-12(ESV)

· Matthew 19: 11-12(King James Version)

· Matthew 19: 12(Multiple translations)

· Matthew 19: 12(original Greek)

· Psalm 139: 13

· Genesis 1: 27

Quotes and URLs

Dr. Jack Rogers quote:

…"eunuchs who have been so from birth," is the closest biblical term we have for someone who today we refer to as homosexual.

Reverend Jeff Miner quote:

www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/born_gay

In the ancient world, including ancient Jewish culture as reflected in the Talmud, natural or born eunuchs… they were associated with stereotypically effeminate, characteristics and behavior… As we have also seen eunuchs were commonly associated with homosexual desire.

Pastor Rick Brentlinger quote:

Historical evidence beside what Jesus said, indicates that gay, lesbians and transgendered people were included in the group known as eunuchs.

#bible #biblestudy #affirming #gaychristian #queerchristian #Christian #exvangelical #pride #Lgbt #gay #ally #lgbtqia #trans

We look at the traditional view of Isaiah’s blessing, which is surprisingly affirming of sexual minorities. Join me as we look at the great blessing in Isaiah 56: 4-5.

Scripture quoted:

· Isaiah 56: 4-5

· Matthew 19: 11-12

· Galatians 3: 28(NASB)

· Leviticus 21: 18-20

References and URLs:

Quote from Janet Edmond

“It is difficult to overstate the significance of this story about the Ethiopian eunuch to our modern quest for Biblical insights into homosexuality. The Holy Spirit could have chosen anyone to be the first Gentile Christian, but the Holy Spirit chose an African, sexual minority who showed faith.

“The Bible’s unmistakable message here is one of inclusiveness and of God’s love for all people, regardless of their sexual preferences.”

Bridgeway Bible Commentary by Don Fleming:

“When the Jews returned to Jerusalem, some Gentile converts returned with them. Among these were several eunuchs, possibly people who were previously connected with the palaces in Babylon and Persia. The law of Moses made it plain that eunuchs were to be excluded from the tabernacle worship, probably to discourage the Israelites from making their own people eunuchs (Deuteronomy 23:1). But in the new Jerusalem all foreigners, eunuchs or otherwise, who honour God and keep his law should be allowed to worship in the temple along with godly Israelites”

“Love and obedience towards God, not physical or national characteristics, are the important things in God’s sight. The temple is for the use of all people, not just Jews, because God’s mercy is for all people”

Barn's Bible Commentary:

“For thus saith the Lord unto the eunuchs - Even the eunuchs, who have hitherto been excluded from the privileges of the people of God, and who have been regarded as a separated and degraded people, shall be admitted to the same privileges as others.”

Enduring Word Commentary:

“This also prophesies the passing of the dominance of the Levitical order.”

#bible #biblestudy #affirming #affirmingchurch #gaychristian #queerchristian #Christian #affirmingyouthministries #exchristian #exmormon #belovedarise #youarebloved

No story has had a greater influence on the Christian condemnation of the LGBTQ+ community than the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. 

Told at the beginning of the Bible in Genesis 19 (GN 19: 1-29) the story has little to do with homosexuality and nothing to do with consensual sex. We examine what the prophet Ezekiel says (EZ 16: 49) and the scholar Derrick Sherwin Bailey, in his classic book “Homosexuality and the Western Christian Tradition” where he says: There is not the least reason to believe, as a matter of either historical fact or of revealed truth, that the city of Sodom and its neighbors were destroyed because of their homosexual practices.”

For more info, Check out our website:www.TheBibleAndHomosexuality.com

References and URLs for this podcast on Sodom and Gomorrah:

1. https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/

2. https://c-ucc.org/open-and-affirming-part-3-sodom-and-gomorrah-is-not-about-homosexuality

3. http://queergrace.com/sodom/

4. https://www.westarinstitute.org/blog/sodom-and-gomorrah-how-the-classical-interpretation-gets-it-wrong/

5. https://www.gaychurch.org/homosexuality-and-the-bible/the-bible-christianity-and-homosexuality/

6. https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/

7. https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-genesis

8. https://medium.com/@adamnicholasphillips/the-bible-does-not-condemn-homosexuality-seriously-it-doesn-t-13ae949d6619

9. https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/genesis-19-cf-1820/

#affirmingchurch #gaychristian #lgbtpride #FaithfullyLGBT #affirming #lgbtchristian #pride #BiblePride #churchtoo #biblestudy #lgbt #gaypride

Three things can predict successful relationships and marriages - a discussion with Grandma Clair.

From The Gottman Institute: https://www.gottman.com/

· The Magic Relationship Ratio (used in Podcast) https://youtu.be/Xw9SE315GtA

· Four horsemen https://youtu.be/1o30Ps-_8is

· “Bids” https://www.gottman.com/blog/turn-toward-instead-of-away/

· Singles newsletter https://www.gottman.com/singles-newsletter/

12 Year Study of same-sex relationships:

· https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-12-year-study/

· https://www.gottman.com/blog/what-makes-same-sex-relationships-succeed-or-fail/

Smiling

· https://marriagecounselingblog.com/marriage-counseling/6-of-the-most-interesting-research-studies-about-love-and-marriage/

· https://youtu.be/jp42DM0x1Fc

· http://tiny.cc/Smile2

· http://tiny.cc/Smile3

· http://tiny.cc/Smile4

· http://tiny.cc/Smile5

First date questions: https://www.scienceofpeople.com/first-date-questions/

Marriages from online dating: https://www.science.org/content/article/online-dating-really-can-lead-love

Psychopathy (Don’t Marry)

· https://www.mha-em.org/im-looking-for/mental-health-knowledge-base/conditions/127-psychopathy-vs-sociopathy

· https://www.bikellaw.com/blog/37/is-your-husband-a-psychopath/

Gratitude

· http://tiny.cc/Thanks1

· http://tiny.cc/Thanks2

The Power of saying: “thank you” in marriages

· https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151021170814.htm

· https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/heidi-stevens/ct-gratitude-marital-happiness-balancing-act-heidi-stevens-20151028-column.html

Top things couples fight about

https://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/the-10-things-every-couple-will-fight-about-at-some-point.html

Scripture used in this episode

· Proverbs 15: 30

· Galatians 5: 22-23

· Matthew 25: 40

· Ephesians 4: 29

· 1 Peter 3: 10

· 1 Thessalonians 5: 11

#Marriage #Dating #Christian #Research #Love

Are the rules for gay sex different than straight sex?

GRANDMA CLAIR’S: SEVEN RULES FOR SAFE SEX:

1) If you can become pregnant get a LARC.

2) When dating go slowly, start with your hands and wait awhile before you move to oral or intercourse.

3) Only have intercourse inside of a monogamous and romantic relationship.

4) ALWAYS use condoms, to protect against STIs.

5) Avoid hook-up sex. And if you do have hook-up sex use only your hands.

6) Wait on oral sex until you are in a long-term, monogamous relationship and have both been tested for STIs.

7) Try to wait until you are 19 to have intercourse.

REPORTS USED:

(Capitalization in tiny URLs matters)

Hook-up Sex Flunks Out, But Romance Rocks:

http://tiny.cc/RomanceRocks

Romantic Sex Lowers Teen Delinquency

http://tiny.cc/SexAndDelinquency

Queer Youth and School Engagement

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2835305/

LARCs Success:

http://tiny.cc/NYTLARCS

http://tiny.cc/LARCSgraduate

http://tiny.cc/OBGYNAdvice

http://tiny.cc/YesLARCS

STIs risks: Oral and Anal Sex verses using hands (fingering)

http://tiny.cc/sti1

http://tiny.cc/sti2

http://tiny.cc/sti3

Kissing and STIs

http://tiny.cc/KissingRisks

http://tiny.cc/Kiss4Gonorrhoea

Percent of Americans Having Premarital Sex

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/p.htm

http://tiny.cc/Guttmacher2006

http://tiny.cc/TeenSexStats

Teens and STIs

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5002249/

Late Bloomers Rock: Delaying First Intercourse Beyond High School Is Beneficial

http://tiny.cc/DoesTrueLoveWait

http://tiny.cc/HeritageTeenSex

http://tiny.cc/57studiesonTeenSex

A Book of Charts

http://tiny.cc/HeritageCharts

Early Sex in El Salvador and Peru Has Poor Outcomes

http://tiny.cc/TeenSexPeru

Children of Teen Moms

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK219236/

https://voxeu.org/article/why-children-teen-mothers-do-worse-life

Graduation Rates for Teen Moms:

http://tiny.cc/TeenMomsInSchool

#premaritalsex #teensex #Christiansex #gaysex #safesex

Millions of Christian’s feel guilt or shame about premarital sex. But should they? What do theGospelsand the10 Commandmentsactually say about premarital sex?

This episode is also available on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MYsj67BTnkY

References and URLs

Terry Gross Fresh Air interview of Linda Kay Klein:

Transcript and audio:

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/648737143

Linda Kay Klein’s book,PURE:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DQV274T

“Inside the Purity Movement and Its Effect on Evangelical Women” by Julie Ingersoll University of North Florida

http://tiny.cc/Purity1

Charts used from part 1:

The benefits of church attendance for women (Harvard study):

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2521827

https://ifstudies.org/blog/religious-service-attendance-marriage-and-health/

The association of religiosity and suicide in queer youth:

http://tiny.cc/Queersuicide

http://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(18)30050-3/fulltext

Falling church attendance – Pew research:

http://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/

President Carter quote:

https://youtu.be/znTO949aPNg?t=155

http://tiny.cc/Carter2015

More than 1 in 2 Americans will get STD in lifetime

http://tiny.cc/sti4

HPV and Cancer: “HPV is a group of more than 200 related viruses, some of which are spread through vaginal, anal, or oral sex…

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-and-cancer

There is a vaccine for many sexually transmitted cancers:

www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-vaccine-fact-sheet

https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/statistics/cases.htm

#safesex #purity #premaritalsex #teensex #Christiansex #gaysex

Voices: Descript.com #descript

21% of Gen Z identifies as LGBT according to a 2022 Gallup Poll. Both parents and churches are failing to keep them safe.

Research tells us there are surprisingly large benefits to health and wellbeing associated with church attendance. Unfortunately, there is a dark side to religion, particularly for some young Christians and members of the LGBTQIA+ community.

This episode is also available on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/I8oHv9tNAM4

References and URLs

21% of Gen Z identifies as LGBT according to a 2022 Gallup Poll:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx

“Homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered" Catechism of the Catholic Church:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2357.htm

Franklin Graham quote:

https://christiansforsocialaction.org/resource/what-are-christians-to-do-with-those-pesky-gay-children/

The benefits of church attendance for women (Harvard study):

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2521827

https://ifstudies.org/blog/religious-service-attendance-marriage-and-health/

Benefits of church attendance for young adults (2ndHarvard study):

http://tiny.cc/Harvardstudy1

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/187/11/2355/5094534

The association of religiosity and suicide in queer youth:

http://tiny.cc/Queersuicide

http://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(18)30050-3/fulltext

Falling church attendance – Barna Group research:

http://www.barna.com/research/changing-state-of-the-church/

Falling church attendance – Pew research:

http://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/

Friendly and Welcoming Is Not Affirming:

http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/4/03/difference-between-welcoming-church-and-affirming-one-huge

Trans godparents forbidden in the Catholic Church:

http://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

http://www.newwaysministry.org/2015/09/13/did-the-vatican-really-ban-transgender-godparents/

#churchtoo #affirmingchurch #gaychristian #FaithfullyLGBT #gay #LGBT

We review President Carter’s famous remarks affirming gay marriage. I talk about how these podcasts came to be. And we look briefly at what godly gay sex might look like. We conclude with a short rant on sexual purity.

References:

Religious upbringing linked to better health and well-being during early adulthood

http://tiny.cc/Harvardstudy1

Chilling Study Sums Up Link Between Religion And Suicide For Queer Youth:

http://tiny.cc/Queersuicide

InMenlo online article:

https://inmenlo.com/2022/01/31/elton-sherwin-offers-podcasts-on-the-bible-and-the-lgbtqia-community-here-he-explains-why/

President Carter’s interviews

2012: “Homosexuality was well known in the ancient world…

http://tiny.cc/Carter2012

2015: “I believe Jesus would approve gay marriage…”

http://tiny.cc/Carter2015

“Children born from unplanned pregnancies often face a range of developmental risks. Data indicates that these children report poorer physical and mental health compared to children born as the result of an intended pregnancy”

https://web.archive.org/web/20201024204014/https://www.michigan.gov/ruready/0,4664,7-276-57380_65294---,00.html(loads slowly)

“Almost half of pregnancies in the U.S. are unplanned. There’s a surprisingly easy way to change that”

http://tiny.cc/WPOonLARCS

More than 1 in 2 Americans will get STD in lifetime

www.sctimes.com/story/life/wellness/2015/08/21/americans--get-std-lifetime/32123427/

HPV and Cancer: “HPV is a group of more than 200 related viruses, some of which are spread through vaginal, anal, or oral sex…

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-and-cancer

There is a vaccine for many sexually transmitted cancers:

www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-vaccine-fact-sheet

90% cervical cancers from STIs

“In general, HPV is thought to be responsible for more than 90% of anal and cervical cancers, about 70% of vaginal and vulvar cancers, and more than 60% of penile cancers.”

https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/statistics/index.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/statistics/cases.htm

In this famous—but often misinterpreted—story we see God emphasizing that the Gospel message is inclusive and open to all. And that the kingdom of heaven does not discriminate on the basis of race, gender or sexual orientation. From the Book of Acts, chapter 8 verses 26 to 40.

References and URLs:

Quotes from Janet Edmonds:

https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses

Quote from Rev. Jeff Miner and John Tyler Connoley in

The Children Are Free: Reexamining the Biblical Evidence on Same-sex Relationships:

https://books.google.com/books?id=c3uCTACZ46sC&pg=PA42

See the last full paragraph on page 42, then read the surrounding pages

Additional Reverend Jeff Miner resources:

www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/born_gay

and books:www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ARev.+Jeff+Miner

Recent article from InMenlo on the origins of this series:

https://inmenlo.com/2022/01/31/elton-sherwin-offers-podcasts-on-the-bible-and-the-lgbtqia-community-here-he-explains-why/

For more from my research about eunuchs in antiquity, see the notes in episode 6.

#biblestudy #affirming #affirmingchurch #gaychristian #FaithfullyLGBT #lgbtchristian #christianparenting #progressivechristian #Christian #bible #affirmingyouthministries #queerallies #queerchristian #affirmingchristian #lgbtchristian

We continue our LGBTQIA+ positive and affirming look at the Bible. In this episode we look at same-sex marriage and gender-neutral pronouns in light of Paul's writings (in Galatians 3.28 and 1 Corinthians 7.8).

Having authored three of the infamous clobber verses, the apostle Paul is generally considered hostile to the LGBTQIA+ community. But in this episode, we see one of the most controversial of the biblical authors in a different light.

We will examine Paul’s clobber verses in a future episode

Poem: Would the Apostle Paul Approve of Gay Marriage?

Would the apostle Paul approve of gay marriage?

I think you would.

On most topics involving women sex or marriage.

Paul's writings are a bit confusing.

In several instances, his meaning is obscured.

The exact translation of old Greek words lost to antiquity.

And in at least one instance, he seems to have made up a word.

Nevertheless:

Paul—who never married—has become the Bible's authority on marriage.

And on the topic of marriage.

Paul's clearest easiest to understand guidance is in his first letter to the new believers in the Greek city of Corinth

“Now to the unmarried and the widows

I say it is good for them to stay unmarried as I do,

but if they cannot control themselves, they should marry

For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.”

1 Corinthians 7: 8-9.

Doesn't this perfectly describe some gay couples?

“…If they cannot control themselves,

they should marry

for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

I can see this becoming quite popular in gay weddings.

Jonathan, and David, stand here today, obedient to the Apostle Paul, who said:

It is good to stay unmarried.

But if you cannot control yourselves, you should marry.

So, today, we celebrate the uniting of Jonathan and David

I look forward to the YouTube videos of weddings using this scripture.

And I will celebrate the day when all churches will heed Paul’s words

and marry couples regardless of their sexual orientation or gender

Postscript: One of my early reviewers noted that some believe Paul may, at one time, have been married. I had never heard this. You can read about this controversy at:

https://www.gotquestions.org/apostle-Paul-married.html

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What did Jesus mean when he said, “Some are born eunuchs? Is this common translation(of Matthew 19.11-12)correct?

Homework Assignment from Episode 6

Who do you think Jesus is talking about in each of the three types of sexual minorities in Matthew 19: 11-12?

Answers

1. “Those who have been so FROM BIRTH.”

· Narrowest plausible answers: G or gay men; or Men who do not lie with women; or queer men.

· Broadest plausible answers: LGBTQIA+; or sexual and gender minorities; or those born sexually different; or queer people.

· Incorrect: Only those born without testicles.

Jesus is saying SOME sexual minorities are formed in their mother’s wombs for something OTHER THAN a traditional, husband-wife marriage with traditional gender roles.

2. “Those who have been made so BY OTHERS”

· Narrowest plausible answer: men who have been castrated by others.

· Broadest plausible answers: LGBTQIA+; sexual and gender minorities; those born sexually different; or queer people.

Jesus is saying SOME are sexual minorities for love. And, SOME are sexual minorities because of the influence of others (parents, friends, lovers, etc.)

3. “Those who have made themselves so FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN”

· Narrowest plausible answer: men who are celibate for life for spiritual reasons, e.g., Roman catholic priests.

· Broadest plausible answer: all people who choose celibacy, even for one night when to have sex would be adulterous, or deceitful, or dishonest, etc.

Jesus is saying there are times in everyone’s life when celibacy is the God-honoring way to live: It can be for one night; It can be for a season of life; and for a few, for a lifetime.

Greek-English Translation

· https://biblehub.com/greek/2135.htm

· https://biblehub.com/psb/matthew/19.htm

References and URLs:

Reverend Jeff Miner quotes:

www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/born_gay

and books: www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ARev.+Jeff+Miner

Janet Edmonds quotes:

https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses

For more from my research about eunuchs in antiquity, see the notes in episode 6.

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Today, we look at Jesus own words on the topic of sexual and gender minorities.

Who are the three types of sexual minorities Jesus is talking about in Matthew 19: 11-12?

1. “Those who have been so FROM BIRTH.”

2. “Those who have been made so BY OTHERS”

3. “Those who have made themselves so FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN”

For the “homework,” use whatever translation you are most comfortable with:

· “Eunuch” or “sexually different.”

· “Mother’s womb” or “birth.”

Match the letters LGBTQIA+ with the three sexual minorities Jesus calls out:

1. from BIRTH;

2. by OTHERS; or

3. for the KINGDOM

LGBTQIA+ brief definitions:https://lgbtqiainfo.weebly.com/acronym-letters-explained.html

More detailed definitions: https://abbreviations.yourdictionary.com/what-does-lgbtqia-stand-for-full-acronym-explained.html

You are answering the question:

Who is Jesus talking about in each of these 3 groups?

· Some of Jesus categories may map to multiple letters.

· And some letters may be used more than once.

· You may also use terms not normally associated with the LGBTQIA+ community. For example, “castrated men” or “infertile men.”

References and URLs:

Janet Edmonds quotes:

https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses

From my research about eunuchs in antiquity:

1. www.gaychristian101.com/eunuchs-are-gay.html

2. www.thoughtco.com/eunuchs-in-the-roman-empire-121003

3. http://epistle.us/hbarticles/eunuchs1.html

4. http://epistle.us/hbarticles/eunuchs2.html

5. http://theologyattheedge.co.uk/tears-in-god-s-wineskin/31-tigw-part-1-eunuchs-eunuchs-in-the-old-testament

6. http://theologyattheedge.co.uk/tears-in-god-s-wineskin (see bottom 4 references)

7. https://facultystaff.richmond.edu/~wstevens/riseofeunuchs.pdf see page 497.

8. https://books.google.com/books?id=tlvMHa6qKloC&pg=PA219&lpg=PA219&dq=Spadones

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We continue examining the two "clobber verses" in the book of Leviticus with an affirming, LGBTQIA+ positive view of Bible scripture.

These two “clobber verses” (Leviticus 18.22 and Leviticus 20.13) have given many Christians great heartache. Do they really condemn all male homosexuality?

For more info, Check out our website:www.TheBibleAndHomosexuality.com

An older version of this episode is available on YouTube:https://youtu.be/WSU-DOLNbmw

References and URLs:

1. Janet Edmonds quotes and sources:

http://tiny.cc/Janet1and

http://tiny.cc/Janet2

2. Dr. Ralph Blair quotes:https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/leviticus-1822-2013/

Levitical clobber verses:

3. https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22

4. https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/#:~:text=Levitical%20Law%20says

5. https://www.religioustolerance.org/interpreting-Leviticus-18-22.htm

6. List of Levitical sins:https://hill-kleerup.org/blog/2012/06/13/76-things-banned-in-leviticus-and-their-penalties.html

7. https://www.religioustolerance.org/hombiblot.htm#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22

8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Leviticus_18_and_20

9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality#Leviticus_18_and_20

10. https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-leviticus#:~:text=Preview

Travel safety for LQBTQIA+ individuals, families and employees:

A. www.asherfergusson.com/lgbtq-travel-safety/

B. www.safehome.org/data/lgbtq-state-safety-rankings/

C. www.smartraveller.gov.au/before-you-go/who-you-are/LGBTI

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These two "clobber verses" in the book of Leviticus are among the Bibles most challenging scriptures. Join us as we continue with an affirming, LGBTQIA+ positive view of the Bible.

Today: Leviticus 18 verse 22 and Leviticus 20 verse 13.

Transcript:https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/4

An older version of this episode is also available on YouTube:https://youtu.be/PrjcJpHK1yg (although the audio is not quite as good as the podcast)

References and URLs:

Levitical clobber verses:

1. https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/leviticus-1822-2013/

2. https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22

3. https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/#:~:text=Levitical%20Law%20says

4. https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/#:~:text=Leviticus

5. https://www.religioustolerance.org/interpreting-Leviticus-18-22.htm

6. List of Levitical sins:https://hill-kleerup.org/blog/2012/06/13/76-things-banned-in-leviticus-and-their-penalties.html

7. https://www.religioustolerance.org/hombiblot.htm#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22

8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Leviticus_18_and_20

9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality#Leviticus_18_and_20

10. https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-leviticus#:~:text=Preview

Travel safety for LQBTQIA+ individuals, families and employees:

A. www.asherfergusson.com/lgbtq-travel-safety/

B. www.safehome.org/data/lgbtq-state-safety-rankings/

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The deeper meaning of the first two clobber verses: “Sodom and Gomorrah” in Genesis 19 and “The Murder of the Levite’s Concubine” in Judges 19-21.

What is really going on in these two stories? Are these mobs of gay rapists…? And what should we learn from these stories?

Transcript:https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/3 

A previous version of this episode calledMobs of Gay Rapists?is available on YouTube:https://youtu.be/zsCqbh9rAGg (the audio is not quite as good as the podcast)

References and URLs:

“ANGELS OF INDETERMINATE GENDER IN GENESIS 19”

by Rev. Dave Barnhart(this URL loads slowly)

http://tiny.cc/DaveB1

More on the gender of Angels:

https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Gender_variance_in_Christianity#Angels_in_Christianity

Rape in clobber verses #1 and #2 -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Genesis_19

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Judges

And for more information on: Sodom and Gomorrah see episode 1 and its notes.

And for more information on: The Murder of the Levite’s Concubine see episode 2 and its notes.

Judges Chapters 19-21 parallels and foreshadows sexual violence against women, people of color, sexual minorities, slaves, prisoners and indigenous peoples. Here are a few references:

History of sexual violence against sexual minorities:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5791869/

www.jstor.org/stable/i40206369

www.jstor.org/stable/40663407

www.rainn.org/articles/lgbtq-survivors-sexual-violence

http://tiny.cc/Violence1

Sexual abuse of slaves in America:

http://tiny.cc/slaveryref1

http://tiny.cc/slaveryref2

Rape during wars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartime_sexual_violence

www.hrw.org/video-photos/interactive/2017/10/05/they-said-we-are-their-slaves

Sexual violence throughout history:

http://tiny.cc/Violence2

The rape of Indigenous peoples in America:

www.jstor.org/stable/25605630

Rape of men during wars and conflicts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartime_sexual_violence#Rape_of_men

This story of sexual violence has been twisted to blame gay men… Yet it has nothing to do with consensual same-sex relationships. Spanning three chapters in the Book of Judges, the Murder of the Levite’s Concubine foreshadows the treatment of minorities around the world.

Transcript:https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/2

This episode is also available on YouTube:https://youtu.be/TNFQpguSvb0 (although the audio is not quite as good as the podcast).

References and URLs for this podcast on The Murder of the Levite’s Concubine:

1. https://whosoever.org/the-bible-and-homosexuality-judges-19/

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levite%27s_concubine

3. https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/

4. https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/

5. https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/concubine-of-levite-bible

6. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/030908929502006705?journalCode=jota

7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible #Judges

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What is this story actually about? Gay men or…? The Prophet Ezekiel explains Genesis 19, the first of the “clobber verses.”

Transcript:https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/1

This episode is also available on YouTube:https://youtu.be/ySuB631FzQA(although the audio is not quite as good as the podcast)

References and URLs for this podcast on Sodom and Gomorrah:

1. https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/

2.https://c-ucc.org/open-and-affirming-part-3-sodom-and-gomorrah-is-not-about-homosexuality

3.http://queergrace.com/sodom/

4.www.westarinstitute.org/blog/sodom-and-gomorrah-how-the-classical-interpretation-gets-it-wrong/

5.www.gaychurch.org/homosexuality-and-the-bible/the-bible-christianity-and-homosexuality/

6.https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/

7.https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-genesis #:~:text=Preview 

8.https://medium.com/@adamnicholasphillips/the-bible-does-not-condemn-homosexuality-seriously-it-doesn-t-13ae949d6619

9.https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/genesis-19-cf-1820/

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In this series we will address the “clobber verses” conservative churchesincorrectly use to condemn same-sex couples.

We will discuss the many affirming verses in scripture God uses to bless sexual and gender minorities.

And we will talk about the teaching of sexual purity. How many churches are teaching young Christians—straight and queer—non-Biblical rules that few can follow. And the guilt, shame and poor decisions that follow.

Transcript:https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/intro

This Introduction is also available on YouTube(although the audio quality is not as good as the podcast): https://youtu.be/zE9lR8XJx0k

References and URLs:

The risks for LGBTQIA Youth attending non-affirming churches:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774

The Difference Between a Welcoming Church and an Affirming One Is Huge

https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/4/03/difference-between-welcoming-church-and-affirming-one-huge

Preview of this series:

https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/

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