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In Older & Wiser, two authors lovingly snark on all things publishing in Younger, as they are more familiar with the ins-and-outs of the industry than seemingly anyone who works on the show. It is co-hosted by Marisa Kanter and Kelsey Rodkey and releases every Wednesday! Follow us @olderwisercast on Twitter and Instagram.
- 29 - Episode 65: The Crown Season 6, Episode 1 Persona Non Grata Recap - Crowning Around
Sam Cheung, Carlyn Greenwald, and Ivan Vukovic, three regular everyday Americans, are back to discuss The Crown Season 6, Episode 1: Persona Non Grata. Together, they break down the shift that The Crown has taken away from Queen Elizabeth, and speculate as to what a more Queen Elizabeth-focused final season would look like. Plus, sponsors?
Wed, 22 Nov 2023 - 52min - 28 - Episode 64: The Queen (2006) Recap - Crowning Around
Sam Cheung, Carlyn Greenwald, and Ivan Vukovic, three regular everyday Americans, dive into the 2006 Oscar nominee The Queen, written by none other than Peter Morgan. Together, they ponder how the events depicted in The Queen will unfold in the upcoming final season of The Crown. Ivan breaks down his own death plan, Ghost Protocol, while Carlyn remembers her time at cotillion. Plus, the bar has never been lower to finally abolish the Kinky Crown Award.
Sun, 01 Oct 2023 - 57min - 27 - Episode 63: Diana (2013) Recap - Crowning Around
Sam Cheung, Carlyn Greenwald, and Ivan Vukovic, three regular everyday Americans, watch the garden of love that is Oliver Hirschbiegel's 2013 film Diana, starring Naomi Watts, Naveen Andrews, Charles Edwards, and Geraldine James. The film boasts a 7% Rotten Tomatoes score, but it can't be thatbad, right? Plus, some Razzie Award trivia.
Fri, 01 Sep 2023 - 50min - 26 - Episode 62: The Young Victoria (2009) Recap - Crowning Around
While waiting for the return of The Crown, Sam Cheung, Carlyn Greenwald, and Ivan Vukovic, three regular everyday Americans, watch Jean-Marc Vallée's 2009 film The Young Victoria, starring Emily Blunt, Rupert Friend, Paul Bettany, Miranda Richardson, Jim Broadbent, Mark Strong, and Harriet Walter. Was this a political drama, a low-stakes romance, or a pseudo-thriller? Why not all three! Plus, Ivan shares which movie has the lowest Rotten Tomatoes score that he still enjoyed.
Tue, 01 Aug 2023 - 46min - 25 - Episode 118: How I Met Your Father 212 Not a Mama Mia Recap - The Outfit RepeatersFri, 26 May 2023 - 47min
- 24 - Episode 108: How I Met Your Father 201 Cool and Chill Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam discuss Hulu's How I Met Your Father Episode 201: Cool and Chill, which premiered January 24, 2023. Sam wonders why Sid picked literally the worst line dance as his favorite, and Marisa is fully on board for the chaos to come that this episode teases. Plus, how likely are we to see more Sex and the City alumni show up on How I Met Your Father?
Fri, 27 Jan 2023 - 49min - 23 - Episode 52: The Crown Season 5, Episode 1 Queen Victoria Syndrome Recap - Crowning Around
Sam Cheung, Carlyn Greenwald, and Ivan Vukovic, three regular everyday Americans, are back to discuss The Crown Season 5, Episode 1: Queen Victoria Syndrome, along the way, providing their first impressions of the new cast and breaking down the transition from Season 4 into Season 5. Plus, Ivan provides his HMS Britannia expertise once again.
Thu, 17 Nov 2022 - 48min - 22 - Episode 41: The Crown Season 4, Episode 1 Gold Stick Recap - Crowning Around
Sam Cheung, Carlyn Greenwald, and Ivan Vukovic, three regular everyday Americans, are back to discuss The Crown Season 4, Episode 1: Gold Stick, in the process answering the very important question: would you rather find a nickel on the ground, or have your local hunter-rider team win a championship?
Thu, 01 Sep 2022 - 49min - 21 - Episode 97: How I Met Your Father Episode 110 Timing is Everything Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam are joined once again by Jermaine Fletcher to discuss the Season 1 finale of Hulu's How I Met Your Father, Timing is Everything, which premiered March 15, 2022. Together, they break down Robin's cameo, Jesse and Meredith's kiss, and the return of an early father candidate. Plus, updated father predictions now that Season 1 is in the books.
Fri, 18 Mar 2022 - 1h 31min - 20 - Episode 96: How I Met Your Father Episode 109 Jay Street Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam discuss Hulu's How I Met Your Father Episode 109: Jay Street, which premiered March 8, 2022. Marisa officially has a complain to file regarding the show's representation, and Sam doesn't understand how Drew (who went to FYRE Festival) remains so chill. Plus, what happened to Drew's dog, Rue McClanahan?
Fri, 11 Mar 2022 - 1h 02min - 19 - Episode 95: How I Met Your Father Episode 108 The Perfect Shot Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam discuss Hulu's How I Met Your Father Episode 108: The Perfect Shot, which premiered March 1, 2022. More importantly, they break down the budding conflict between the writers of the show and BTS fans, who are out for blood thanks to a joke that landed terribly. Plus, The Lumineers' Brightside or The Killers' Mr. Brightside?
Fri, 04 Mar 2022 - 57min - 18 - Episode 94: How I Met Your Father Episode 107 Rivka Rebel Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam discuss Hulu's How I Met Your Father Episode 107: Rivka Rebel, which premiered February 22, 2022. Marisa decides to read off of Sam's note instead of taking notes of her own, and for a brief moment, it seems like Sam's wish for a Charlie/Ellen feud might come true. Plus, what is the perfect photo to represent Sophie?
Fri, 25 Feb 2022 - 1h 00min - 17 - Episode 93: How I Met Your Father Episode 106 Stacey Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam discuss Hulu's How I Met Your Father Episode 106: Stacey, which premiered February 15, 2022. Marisa and Sam learn some alarming things about these characters pasts that they need to be explained further. Is Charlie a serial killer? Will there be a standalone Drew-at-Fyre-Festival Episode? Plus, Marisa and Sam choose the episode's cringiest line.
Fri, 18 Feb 2022 - 1h 06min - 16 - Episode 28: The Crown Season 3, Episode 1 Olding Recap - Crowning Around
Sam Cheung, Carlyn Greenwald, and Ivan Vukovic, three regular everyday Americans, recap The Crown Season 3, Episode 1: Olding, and in the process meet a brand new cast of characters including Olivia Colman, Tobias Menzies, and Helena Bonham Carter. Oh, and Winston is back, too. Plus, a surprise Crown cameo from a former Kinky Crown Award winner!
Thu, 17 Feb 2022 - 47min - 15 - Episode 92: How I Met Your Father Episode 105 The Good Mom Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam discuss Hulu's How I Met Your Father Episode 105: The Good Mom, which premiered February 8, 2022. Marisa learns on the podcast that one of her favorite Love, Victor actors has a famous father, and Sam breaks down why this episode almost made him quit the podcast. Plus, Marisa uncovers where we know Sid from.
Fri, 11 Feb 2022 - 1h 02min - 14 - Episode 91: How I Met Your Father Episode 104 Dirrty Thirty Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam discuss Hulu's How I Met Your Father Episode 104: Dirrty Thirty, which premiered February 1, 2022. Looking at all the empirical evidence, Marisa and Sam attempt to deduce if Drew is indeed a sociopath. He thinks walking in on people having sex on the shower is a good thing, so not off to a great start. Plus, a deep dive into the USPTO database to find out if "mangagement ring" is available.
Fri, 04 Feb 2022 - 1h 02min - 13 - Episode 90: How I Met Your Father Episode 103 The Fixer Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam discuss Hulu's How I Met Your Father Episode 103: The Fixer, which premiered January 25, 2022. Sam has a theory about Valentina and a suggestion for the Ellen/Charlie subplot, while Marisa sheds light on the "Sad Guy" trope and how Jesse fits right into it. Plus, is Drew actually a father contender?
Fri, 28 Jan 2022 - 58min - 12 - Episode 89: How I Met Your Father Episodes 101 Pilot and 102 FOMO Recap - The Outfit Repeaters
Marisa and Sam discuss the first two episodes of Hulu's How I Met Your Father, Pilot and FOMO. Is this a fill-in for the Lizzie McGuire reboot that they have been craving? And how does it compare to the original How I Met Your Mother franchise. And what is their favorite entry level sedan? Plus, early guesses on who the father is.
Fri, 21 Jan 2022 - 1h 14min - 11 - Episode 12: There's No Crying in Publishing (Younger Ep. 112)
Marisa and Kelsey are joined by fellow author Kaitlyn Hill to unpack the season one finale of Younger—and get particularly hung up, as romance authors, on grand gestures in the form of PowerPoint slideshows. They discuss auctions as depicted in Younger, and Liza’s experience being blackmailed by the worst white-collar criminal in publishing. And at long last, they give some credit to Kelsey after her mess of an acquisition, for finally being friendship goals. Season one of Younger is a wrap!
Wed, 14 Jul 2021 - 57min - 10 - Episode 11: L'Chaim Bitches! (Younger Ep. 111)
Marisa and Kelsey attend Lauren's hot mitzvah, an event filled with guilt gifts, manischewitz, molly...and the truth! Marisa bows down to Lauren and the inclusion of casual Jewish rep on Younger and asks, once again, why Kelsey (the character!) is seemingly unable to do her job. Kelsey (the co-host!) discusses Liza's "Book Doctor" audition, a gig that neither Marisa nor Kelsey are familiar with. And, of course, they discuss Liza's big reveal to Josh!
Wed, 16 Jun 2021 - 35min - 9 - Episode 10: The Suburban Pulse Ft. Shelly Romero (Younger Ep. 110)
Every week, Marisa and Kelsey question the choices that Kelsey (Peters) makes as an editor. This week, their guest is Shelly Romero, an Assistant Editor that works in children's publishing--and she is here to unpack the scandal that is The Scarf and confirm that Kelsey is, in fact, the worst at her job. Shelly shares her insights as an editor and shines some light on the acquisitions process, which no, is not as simple as, "make an offer." With the reveal that Kelsey lives with Lauren's rich parents, they also discuss privilege, generational wealth, and its role in the makeup of the publishing industry. Shelly also has some scorching hot Josh takes that, quite frankly, Marisa and Kelsey are still recovering from.
Wed, 09 Jun 2021 - 56min - 8 - Episode 9: Rabid Hipsters (Younger Ep. 109)
Marisa and Kelsey learn that (gasp!) Josh doesn't read in Younger Episode 109: I'm With Stupid, where Liza is searching through the slush pile -- and for reasons to self-sabotage her relationship. Kelsey imagines a world where there are still physical slush-piles for editors to peruse, then asks why Liza is even doing this when she works in marketing? Marisa waxes poetic at the ethics surrounding bringing an unrepresented, unpublished manuscript to a suburban book club! And setting up a Goodreads page for it! As authors, Marisa and Kelsey both find this concerning to say the least. As people, they find Liza's elitist attitude toward Josh's lack of a traditional education also concerning.
Wed, 02 Jun 2021 - 40min - 7 - Episode 8: Is He Watching? Ft. Jess Dallow (Younger Ep. 108)
This week, Marisa and Kelsey are going to the PEN Awards, and are joined by the lovely Jess Dallow, a literary agent at Brower Literary & Management, who is here just in time for substantial Charles content (FINALLY!). Marisa is at a loss as to why Liza, a marketing assistant, is so involved in the publicity responsibilities of Empirical's PEN planning. Kelsey explores what a fun dynamic we could have had if Diana was Kelsey's boss... because WHO is Kelsey's boss? Jess shares her thoughts on the agent representation in Younger, a mini-dissertation on why we should all be Team Charles, and a fun story about her real life run-in with the man who plays Charles himself, Peter Hermann!
Wed, 26 May 2021 - 48min - 6 - Episode 7: Sniffed & Stiffed (Younger Ep. 107)
Marisa and Kelsey discuss Liza's various creative side hustles in Younger Episode 107: Broke and Pantyless, as no one is in (entry level) publishing for the money! Marisa loved that Charles' is finally introduced as a love interest... but not so much the way introduction went. Kelsey gives an ode to Lauren, a supportive queen. And of course, they have to talk about Anton (ugh) and Kelsey's full commitment to an affair with her client. That's going to end well...
Wed, 12 May 2021 - 34min - 5 - Episode 6: A Terrible Party Ft. Annette Christie (Younger 106)
Marisa and Kelsey are joined by author and Mean Girls extra, Annette Christie, and they're going to a book launch! At a bar! With champagne and peacocks! Marisa is stressed by the conflation of marketing and publicity and emphasizes that planning a launch event is NOT Liza's job. Kelsey asks a truly ridiculous question: if it's a launch event, where are the books? And Annette declares Marisa and Kelsey 'earnest millennials' and gives the behind-the-scenes scoop (as a celebrity background actor) on why extras in party scenes have no rhythm. She also 'Annabelle Bancrofts' Marisa and Kelsey's books titles!
Wed, 05 May 2021 - 53min - 4 - Episode 5: Poison My Ensure (Younger Ep. 105)
Marisa and Kelsey discuss all things menstrual cups and female friendship in Younger Episode 105: Girl Code, a publishing-lite episode in which Liza becomes part of Kelsey's inner circle and CHARLES BROOKS IS IN THE BUILDING! Marisa and Kelsey are extremely underwhelmed by his entrance! They will also try to guess what in the world the latest empirical repackaging project is about. Wrong answers only.
Wed, 28 Apr 2021 - 32min - 3 - Episode 4: Pound Town (Younger Ep. 104)
Marisa and Kelsey are joined by Auriane Desombre, author of I Think I Love You, to verify Josh's himbo status and discuss Kelsey's messy, unprofessional behavior toward her very first acquisition. Featuring: - Who in the world DOESN'T BELIEVE IN MARKETING THEIR BOOK? - Drunk tattoos Marisa, Kelsey, and Auriane would get for their debuts! - More airtime for Charles than he has received on the show up to this point, as there has been NONE.
Wed, 21 Apr 2021 - 32min - 2 - Episode 3: Cleavage Wrinkle (Younger Ep. 103)
Marisa and Kelsey are back to discuss Younger Episode 103: IRL, a publishing-lite episode in which Liza and Josh get intimate and Kelsey is determined to acquire The Swede's book. They appreciate Kelsey's hustle... but not the incredibly unprofessional editor / author relationship that develops. They also ask, once again, who is Kelsey's boss? Where is the editorial team? Where is CHARLES?
Wed, 14 Apr 2021 - 30min - 1 - Episode 1: I Got Arrested Like Every Weekend (Younger Ep. 101)
Welcome to the first episode of Older & Wiser! In this episode, Marisa and Kelsey break down all things publishing in the pilot episode of Younger. Marisa has a lot of feelings about Jane Austen's Twitter account. Kelsey has a lot of feelings about Josh, a certified himbo. Both are more than willing to consult on shows about publishing. (Hollywood! If you're listening!)
Wed, 31 Mar 2021 - 37min
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