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Real conversations and practical advice for everyday leaders. Sit across the table from one of the foremost experts in leadership and business. In his simple and approachable style, Pat tackles every topic related to the world of work (and some that aren’t). From culture to teamwork to building world-class organizations, Pat brings his wisdom, humor, and insight together to provide actionable advice for leaders everywhere. For more on Pat and the Table Group, visit https://www.tablegroup.com
- 292 - 281. Employees Have to Suffer
Are you protecting your employees from the very challenges they need to grow?
Great leadership isn't about making employees comfortable; it's about helping them grow, even when that growth requires discomfort. In episode 281 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore why managers often struggle to let their employees face challenges and how excessive protection can undermine accountability, confidence, and development. They explain how leaders can balance genuine empathy with tough expectations, allowing employees to struggle without ever feeling abandoned.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Why Employees Need to Suffer
Why protecting employees from discomfort can prevent them from developing resilience and character.The two extremes of management: constantly rescuing employees or becoming emotionally detached from their struggles.(03:36) The Long-Term Value of Discomfort
Why removing every obstacle prevents employees from developing the skills to overcome challenges independently.How childhood responsibilities, difficult expectations, and accountability create lasting work ethic and resilience.(07:05) Letting Employees Face Difficult Challenges
Why genuine empathy sometimes requires allowing employees to experience discomfort for their long-term benefit.How stepping aside during difficult conversations and workplace conflicts helps employees develop confidence and leadership skills.(10:26) Finding the Balance Between Care and Accountability
Why the desire to be the fun, well-liked boss can interfere with an employee's growth.How managers can acknowledge an employee's struggles without rescuing them or becoming emotionally detached.(14:13) Getting Comfortable With Uncomfortable Leadership
Why challenging employees beyond their comfort zones creates opportunities for personal and professional growth.How leaders must examine their own motivations and accept discomfort rather than prioritizing their immediate feelings over employee development.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 10 Nov 2026 - 17min - 291 - 280. Closer But Further
Why does becoming a better leader sometimes make you feel like you're falling further behind?
The more you grow as a leader, the more you realize how much you still have to learn, creating a frustrating paradox where progress can make perfection seem further away. In episode 280 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore why this realization is actually a sign of maturity and how humility can help leaders overcome the discouragement of never feeling good enough. By shifting the focus from perfection and extraordinary achievements to consistency and daily improvement, leaders can find greater peace and satisfaction in the ongoing process of becoming better.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Why Getting Better Can Feel Like Falling Behind
Pat introduces the paradox of personal growth, explaining why becoming a better leader often reveals how much more there is to learn.Pat and Cody discuss how this realization applies to leadership, marriage, parenting, and faith, and why accepting that perfection is unattainable can be liberating.(03:09) The Humility of Never Arriving
Pat explains how growing older and gaining experience have helped him become more comfortable acknowledging how far he still has to go.Cody shares a childhood hiking experience to illustrate why reaching what appears to be the summit often reveals another mountain to climb.(06:22) Stop Comparing and Start Improving
Pat reflects on the unrealistic expectations he once placed on himself as a husband, father, and leader.Cody challenges the tendency to measure success against other people, while Pat emphasizes becoming a little better than yesterday instead of pursuing perfection.(09:41) Why Consistency Beats Intensity
Pat explains why consistently showing up for employees and making small improvements can be more valuable than occasional extraordinary efforts.Pat and Cody discuss the dangers of heroic expectations and why realistic, incremental progress creates healthier leaders and organizations.(12:52) The Freedom of Never Being Finished
Pat and Cody challenge the assumption that the most successful or famous leaders are necessarily the best, emphasizing the importance of steady improvement regardless of organizational size.They conclude that accepting the endless nature of growth can replace anxiety and discouragement with peace, purpose, and renewed motivation.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 27 Oct 2026 - 16min - 290 - 279. Utopia Is A Myth
How can you pursue excellence without becoming discouraged by imperfection?
Organizational health does not mean eliminating conflict, dysfunction, or difficult seasons forever. In episode 279 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson explain why leaders need to replace the pursuit of organizational perfection with resilience, learning to expect downturns while continuing to move toward greater health. When things get messy, the answer is not despair, but returning to what is true, recommitting to core principles, and getting incrementally better.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) The Myth of the Perfect Organization
Pat explains why organizational health should never be confused with creating a perfect company, team, or family.The pursuit of utopia can distort expectations and cause leaders to see normal struggles as evidence that something has gone fundamentally wrong.(02:56) When Healthy Organizations Get Messy
Pat and Cody discuss the danger of believing an organization will eventually eliminate politics, silos, conflict, and other problems forever.They argue that organizational health is better understood as resilience: the ability to work through inevitable problems instead of being defeated by them.(06:02) Progress Is Not a Straight Line
Pat acknowledges that even after 29 years of focusing on organizational health, The Table Group still experiences real problems and difficult periods.Cody describes organizational progress as a jagged line moving upward, where temporary downturns can look disastrous until leaders zoom out and see the larger trajectory.(09:31) The Danger of Expecting Perfection
Cody explains how unrealistic expectations can turn temporary difficulties into damaging conclusions such as believing you are a bad leader or your company will fail.Pat argues that leaders should continue striving to improve while simultaneously accepting that perfection will never actually be reached.(12:42) Tomorrow Is a New Day
Pat and Cody encourage leaders and parents to return to what they know is true, recommit to their values, and begin again after difficult days.Growth never really ends, and progress comes from accepting imperfection while continuing to learn, change, and get incrementally better.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 13 Oct 2026 - 14min - 289 - 278. The Horse That Isn't Dead Yet (Are You Serious)
Are you treating teamwork as a real competitive advantage or simply something your company says it values?
In episode 278 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson revisit the debate over remote work, arguing that there is an important distinction between hiring genuinely remote employees, offering reasonable flexibility, and allowing local teammates to avoid working together. They challenge leaders to consider whether policies built primarily around convenience are undermining trust, culture, productivity, and the competitive advantages that come from real human interaction. Ultimately, the episode asks leaders and employees to answer a more fundamental question: are they serious enough about their work and their teammates to prioritize being together when they can?
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) The Horse Still Isn’t Dead
Pat argues that teamwork requires people to actually know one another and spend meaningful time together.Pat and Cody introduce the recurring remote-work debate and distinguish local work-from-home arrangements from truly remote employment.(03:16) When Work Becomes “Unserious”
Cody explains why allowing nearby employees to avoid the office can feel inconsistent with a company that claims to prioritize excellence and teamwork.They imagine comparing colocated and remote teams not only on productivity, but also on loyalty, relationships, health, and culture.(06:07) Teamwork Requires Interaction
Pat compares workplace teams to sports teams, arguing that individuals cannot simply practice alone and expect the same team dynamics.They discuss practical flexibility while maintaining that regular interaction is essential when people have the ability to work together.(09:14) Convenience Versus Competitive Advantage
Pat connects employees’ attitudes toward coming to work with the idea of hunger and commitment while cautioning leaders against enabling habits that weaken the team.Cody argues that trust, healthy conflict, culture, teamwork, and organizational health are all more difficult to develop when convenience consistently takes priority.(11:46) Are You Serious?
Pat reframes the episode’s central question around whether people are genuinely serious about the work they are doing, comparing unnecessary remote work to taking an online class while already living on a college campus.Pat and Cody close by encouraging organizations to maintain flexibility and hire remotely when necessary while choosing to work together whenever circumstances make it possible.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 29 Sep 2026 - 14min - 288 - 277. The Heart of Accountability
Are you avoiding a difficult conversation because you care about someone, or because you are protecting yourself?
In episode 277 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore why accountability is consistently one of the hardest behaviors for teams and argue that avoiding difficult feedback is often selfishness disguised as compassion. They explain that real accountability comes from caring enough about another person to tell the truth, even when doing so risks discomfort, frustration, or temporary rejection. They also discuss the importance of trust, timing, leadership modeling, and practicing accountability until hard conversations become a normal part of a healthy team.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Why Accountability Is an Act of Love
Pat argues that avoiding difficult feedback is often selfishness disguised as compassion because it protects the person giving the feedback rather than helping the person who needs it.Pat and Cody introduce the idea that genuine accountability requires caring enough about someone to risk discomfort, rejection, or an unpleasant reaction.(04:39) Accountability Is More Than Consequences
Cody connects accountability to parenting and explains why loving someone sometimes requires doing something they may not appreciate in the moment.Pat and Cody distinguish real accountability from simply punishing poor performance, explaining why leaders should address problems before they reach the point of firing or other consequences.(09:43) Loving Someone Enough to Tell the Truth
Cody explains why accountability is ultimately about helping another person improve, both for the good of the team and for their own development.Pat discusses the personal cost of leadership, including the willingness to be temporarily disliked, and describes a progression for addressing problems directly before escalating them.(14:32) Trust, Timing, and Knowing When to Speak
Pat and Cody explore the role of vulnerability-based trust in making difficult conversations possible and discuss circumstances when someone may genuinely not be ready to receive feedback.They explain why leaders should normally lean toward having the conversation while also recognizing that restraint and thoughtful timing can sometimes be the more loving choice.(19:12) Run Toward the Red
Pat encourages leaders to examine their intentions, accept the inherent messiness of accountability, and move toward uncomfortable issues instead of avoiding them.Cody explains how consistently modeling accountability can create a culture of peer-to-peer accountability, before Pat challenges listeners to identify a conversation they have been avoiding and consider having it.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 15 Sep 2026 - 23min - 287 - 276. Your Team Needs More Workplace Drama
Are Your Meetings Too Comfortable?
Workplace drama has a bad reputation, but in episode 276 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson argue that genuine drama is often exactly what healthy organizations need. When teams allow real emotions, disagreements, fears, and convictions into the room, they can address difficult issues instead of letting them quietly grow. The challenge for leaders is learning to distinguish healthy drama from manufactured melodrama and then creating an environment where people can say what really needs to be said.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Why Workplaces Need More Drama
Pat and Cody challenge the assumption that all workplace drama is unhealthy, distinguishing genuine human emotion from exaggerated melodrama.They argue that organizations become more interesting, engaging, and effective when people are willing to address the emotional reality behind important issues.(04:03) Putting Real Stakes Back Into Work
Cody compares healthy organizations to compelling movies, explaining that meaningful stakes and interpersonal dynamics are what make both stories and workplaces engaging.Pat explains how companies often drain emotion from strategic conversations even though excitement, fear, disappointment, conflict, and hope are naturally part of important decisions.(08:47) Good Drama, Bad Drama
Pat and Cody explore how fear, disagreement, and other genuine emotions can help teams surface problems and address the elephant in the room.They distinguish legitimate workplace tension from manufactured or unnecessary emotion that may point to a personal struggle or dysfunctional behavior.(13:18) Leaders Have to Run Toward the Danger
Cody explains that the most valuable consulting moments occur when teams move beyond models and finally surface the real problem they have been avoiding.Pat and Cody argue that leaders should become energized by meaningful tension and run toward important issues instead of quickly neutralizing or taking them offline.(17:48) Mine for the Last Ten Percent
Pat shares a memorable prank involving a client team to illustrate how emotion and drama can make important organizational moments memorable and revealing.Pat and Cody encourage leaders to ask whether people are withholding the final 10% of what they think and to actively mine for genuine emotion and conflict.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 01 Sep 2026 - 21min - 286 - 275. Where Do You Really Work?
Where do you actually do your best and most important work?
Work does not always happen where, when, or how people expect it to happen. In episode 275 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore why thinking, brainstorming, reflecting, and solving problems should count just as much as the visible activity people typically associate with productivity. They challenge leaders to create cultures that measure people by meaningful contribution and results rather than how busy they appear at their desks.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Where Does Work Really Happen?
Pat questions whether traditional work hours and office spaces accurately reflect when people are actually doing their most valuable work.Cody expands the conversation by asking a more fundamental question: what should actually qualify as work?(03:43) Making Space for Different Kinds of Work
Pat explains why choosing to stay away from the office for an hour of focused creative thinking can sometimes be more productive than immediately sitting at a desk.Pat and Cody discuss how personality, Working Genius, and the nature of a person's responsibilities can influence where and how that person works best.(07:27) What Leaders Should Measure
Pat challenges CEOs to consider whether they want employees thinking about their work outside traditional work hours and argues that overly rigid boundaries can discourage that engagement.Cody pushes the idea further by questioning why computer work and task completion are so often treated as more legitimate than meetings, conversations, and creative thought.(10:57) The Four Types of Work
Pat introduces a two-by-two framework that divides work into thinking versus doing and collective versus solitary.The conversation explores why each type of work may require a different setting and why organizations should deliberately create room for thinking rather than defaulting constantly to execution.(14:32) Effectiveness Over Visible Productivity
Pat argues that healthy cultures can give people more freedom over how they work while still expecting meaningful results.Pat and Cody conclude that organizations should judge contribution by the work that actually needs to be accomplished rather than whether productivity is visibly demonstrated through desk time and constant activity.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 18 Aug 2026 - 17min - 285 - 274. Let's Get Physical
Why might physical work become more valuable as AI advances?
Physical, hands-on work may be entering a new era of relevance as artificial intelligence changes the future of desk-based careers. In episode 274 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore how tangible work can provide economic stability, human connection, visible accomplishment, and opportunities for personal development. They also challenge leaders and parents to consider whether efficiency should always take priority over the dignity, growth, and satisfaction that meaningful work can provide.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Why Physical Work Is Becoming Cool Again
Pat introduces the growing appeal of physical, present, and tangible work as artificial intelligence begins replacing more computer-based tasks.Pat and Cody examine how previous generations encouraged young people to pursue white-collar careers rather than jobs involving physical skill or direct service.(03:40) The Unexpected Value of a Tree Service
Pat shares the story of Rocky Hernandez, who built a successful tree-service business after coming to the United States without a formal education.Rocky’s son may discover that taking over and expanding the family business offers more opportunity and security than remaining in a high-tech career.(07:17) The Satisfaction of Visible Results
Cody explains how physical work changes people by requiring them to do difficult things and experience the concrete results of their effort.Pat broadens the definition of physical work to include teaching, childcare, restaurants, healthcare, customer service, and other careers built around human presence.(11:36) Work, Entrepreneurship, and Human Dignity
Cody contrasts an automated lawnmower with a 13-year-old neighbor who started a lawn-care business to earn money for a ski pass.Pat and Cody discuss why decisions about automation are also moral decisions involving personal growth, opportunity, dignity, and the kind of people work helps create.(15:03) Learning Differently and Building Something Real
Pat considers how technology companies can preserve physical, customer-facing work while artificial intelligence reduces the need for certain technical roles.Pat and Cody predict changes in higher education and encourage families to recognize the practical wisdom of careers that produce tangible, visible results.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 04 Aug 2026 - 19min - 284 - 273. First Impressions at Work
Why can two people leave the same meeting with completely different understandings?
A newcomer’s perspective reveals something experienced professionals often forget: work is far messier and less logical than it appears from the outside. In episode 273 of At The Table, Pat and Cody examine how fear, nonverbal communication, personality differences, and unspoken assumptions cause even healthy teams to misunderstand one another. They also explain how stronger meeting discipline, good intentions, and greater grace can help organizations navigate that messiness and move in the same direction.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) A Newcomer’s View of Work
Pat shares a surprising observation from his son Michael’s first summer working in an office environment.Michael notices that people can understand their jobs and speak the same language while still missing the deeper meaning behind one another’s words.(04:31) Why Alignment Is So Difficult
Pat and Cody discuss why even successful companies are filled with the complications and misunderstandings that come with being human.Organizational health can become a significant competitive advantage, but getting everyone to row in the same direction requires more than frameworks and good intentions.(09:15) Fear and the Things People Do Not Say
Electronic communication makes misunderstandings more likely, but even face-to-face conversations leave important meaning unspoken.Employees may withhold concerns because they fear appearing negative, losing relational capital, or being viewed as poor team players.(13:49) Building Clarity Before the Meeting Ends
Teams can improve alignment by reviewing what they discussed, what they decided, and what needs to be communicated outside the room.Even disciplined teams should assume that some percentage of the apparent clarity in a meeting may be incomplete or misunderstood.(18:14) Grace, Good Intentions, and Healthy Organizations
Personality differences can cause people to interpret the same words literally, generally, or metaphorically, creating frustration even among people who trust one another.Healthy organizations acknowledge the messiness of work while hiring humble, hungry, and smart people who can assume the best and work through misunderstandings.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 21 Jul 2026 - 21min - 283 - 272. The Profit Problem
What happens when your business starts treating profit as the goal instead of the indicator?
In episode 272 of At The Table, Pat and Cody challenge one of the most common assumptions in business: that maximizing profit should be the goal. They argue that profit is essential, but when leaders treat it as a company's purpose, they risk harming customers, employees, products, and culture. Leaders are invited to decide what is enough, invest in what matters, and build organizations that create value beyond the bottom line.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) The Assumption Behind Profit
Pat introduces the problem with assuming that maximizing profit is the goal of business.
Cody points out how natural that assumption feels, even for people who have never studied business formally.
(03:00) Winning Without Running Up the Score
Pat compares business to football, explaining that the goal is to win, not to score as many points as possible.
Cody expands the analogy by explaining why eliminating competition can hurt innovation, customers, and the overall game.
(07:27) Value Beyond the Spreadsheet
Cody distinguishes between maximizing profit and creating value for customers, employees, and the broader organization.
Pat explains why some business decisions, like giving away bread at a restaurant, may create long-term value even if they do not show up neatly on a spreadsheet.
(10:29) The Damage of Extracting Too Much
Pat describes how companies can burn goodwill with customers when they constantly squeeze them for more revenue.
Cody and Pat discuss planned obsolescence, AI, and the danger of replacing human value with decisions driven only by financial gain.
(15:48) Purpose, Ownership, and Enough
Pat connects the conversation to The Advantage and the importance of knowing why a business exists.
Pat and Cody explain how The Table Group has chosen longevity, peace, and a healthy work experience over chasing maximum growth and profit.
This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 07 Jul 2026 - 21min - 282 - 271. Time, Risk, and Innovation
What would happen if your team was challenged to do something ridiculous on purpose?
In episode 271 of At The Table, Pat, Cody, and Matthew share the story of a risky, creative experiment from The Table Group’s annual consulting conference in Franklin, Tennessee. After giving teams one hour and $400 to create something ridiculous, outlandish, and loosely connected to organizational health, they watched their consultants produce original songs, recognize an ideal team player, rent an eight-foot tree, and even paint The Table Group office. The conversation reveals how time constraints, trust, risk, and freedom can unlock creativity in ways that careful planning often cannot.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) The Power Of Limited Time
Pat introduces the idea that limiting time can actually increase innovation, creativity, and execution.Cody explains the purpose of The Table Group’s annual consulting conference and how the team wanted to create a short but meaningful offsite experience.(04:03) One Hour, $400, And A Ridiculous Challenge
Pat and Cody describe the challenge: teams had one hour, $400, and a goal to create the most ridiculous, creative idea possible.They reflect on how quickly the consultants moved through the Working Genius process, from wonder and invention to discernment, galvanizing, enablement, and tenacity.(05:47) Recognizing An Ideal Team Player
One team went to the hotel manager, taught the Ideal Team Player model, and asked her to identify someone on staff who embodied humble, hungry, and smart.The team honored the chosen employee with gifts, cake, and a standing ovation from the consultants.(08:03) Songs, Trees, And Creative Chaos
Another team found a musician at a coffee shop and paid her to write and perform an original song about The Table Group in one hour.A different team rented an eight-foot tree as a callback to the “Plant Your Friggin Tree” episode and turned it into a memorable symbol of action and urgency.(13:25) The Office Painting Risk
One team secretly entered The Table Group office and painted Matt’s podcast room red with references to the Five Dysfunctions, the Advantage model, and the Ideal Team Player.Pat, Cody, and Matt reflect on how the experiment proved that trust, risk, fun, and people-centered experiences can make business conversations more effective.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 23 Jun 2026 - 20min - 281 - 270. The More Things Change...
Why does trust become even more important in a world shaped by AI?
In episode 270 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni, Cody Thompson, and Matthew Lencioni discuss how much the workplace has changed across generations, from voicemail lights and computer labs to AI and virtual work. While the tools, speed, and structure of work have changed dramatically, they argue that trust, teamwork, clarity, and healthy culture have not changed at all. As technology becomes more accessible and commoditized, the episode argues that organizational health may be a greater competitive advantage than ever.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Technology Changes, But Leadership Doesn’t
Pat introduces the idea that the fundamentals of great relationships, teams, families, and organizations have not changed, even as technology has transformed work.Pat and Cody preview the episode’s core question: how much has work changed, and how much have leadership and organizational health stayed the same?(03:32) Remembering the Pre-Digital Workplace
Pat describes starting work in 1987 with no email, no internet, no cell phones, and only a corded desk phone with a voicemail light.The conversation explores how slower communication, physical meetings, paper reports, and travel-heavy work shaped the way companies operated.(07:15) The Shift Into Computers, Email, and AI
Cody reflects on his own early work experience with computer labs, Excel spreadsheets, landlines, and in-person college admissions fairs.Pat and Cody discuss how quickly technology has accelerated, especially as AI now allows people to do work that once required specialized technical knowledge.(11:21) Why Organizational Health Matters More Now
Pat explains that dysfunction used to spread more slowly, but today, technology can magnify unhealthy behavior more quickly.The conversation turns to culture, trust, leadership, and teamwork as increasingly important differentiators in a world where products and information are easier to copy.(16:06) The Future Hunger for Human Connection
Cody and Pat discuss how trust, nonverbal communication, healthy conflict, and interpersonal connection remain essential even in a virtual and technology-driven workplace.Matthew Lencioni joins the conversation to share his perspective on work, generational differences, and why in-person connection still matters.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 09 Jun 2026 - 21min - 280 - 269. I Assumed You Remembered
What important message have you stopped repeating because you assumed people already knew it?
In episode 269 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson make the case that people need reminders more than they need brand-new information. They explain why leaders often undercommunicate the most important things: they are afraid of sounding repetitive, annoying, or insulting. Through examples from work, church, family, and everyday life, they challenge listeners to stop assuming people remember and start repeating what matters.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Why Reminders Matter
Pat introduces the idea that people often fail to say important things because they assume others already know or remember them.Cody connects the topic to the broader need for reminders in work, leadership, strategy, church, and family life.(03:19) Returning To The Basics
Pat explains that much of his work with leaders involves reminding them of simple truths they already knew but stopped applying.Cody points out that teams often chase new, sophisticated ideas rather than revisiting the foundational principles that provide clarity.(07:57) Leaders As Chief Reminding Officers
Pat describes the CEO, parent, priest, and manager as “chief reminding officers” whose job is to transfer understanding, not entertain themselves.Cody shares how repeated stories and clarity questions help a team internalize values until they become part of decision-making.(12:09) Repetition At Home And Work
Cody reflects on how repeated family traditions and repeated words of love create lasting memories and emotional certainty.Pat explains that appreciation, love, and organizational clarity should be repeated even when people seem to already know them.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 26 May 2026 - 19min - 279 - 268. Death by Offsite
How can you design an offsite that your team actually values?
Most offsites fail because they are either too loose to be productive or too rigid to be meaningful. In episode 268 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody break down what made their most recent offsite the best in decades. They reveal why the right mix of structure, vulnerability, and flexibility can transform an offsite into a powerful catalyst for alignment and trust.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:03) Why Offsites Get a Bad Reputation
Offsites often fail because they mix too many meeting types into one session.Many teams dread them due to wasted time and lack of meaningful outcomes.(02:23) The Stakes of a Great Offsite
Pulling people away from work and family raises the bar for value.A successful offsite must create alignment, trust, and forward momentum.(07:38) Designing with Flexibility, Not Perfection
Leaders chose a few key topics but intentionally left space in the agenda.Real value comes from adapting to what’s happening in the room.(12:10) Creating Trust Through Real Conversations
Simple exercises like sharing emotions can unlock deeper vulnerability.Organic discussions—not presentations—lead to better decisions and engagement.(25:10) Blending Work, Fun, and Meaning
Social activities work best when lightly connected to the team and mission.The goal is for people to leave feeling known, aligned, and energized.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 12 May 2026 - 30min - 278 - 267. Cults vs Cultures
How can you tell if your company has a strong culture or just generic values?
Most companies don’t struggle with being cult-like; they struggle with having any real culture at all. In this episode, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson break down the critical differences between strong cultures and actual cult behavior, highlighting why clarity and conviction matter. You’ll learn why great organizations embrace distinct values, even if it means not being the right fit for everyone.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00:00) Defining Culture vs. Cult
Culture is built on shared beliefs, customs, and behaviors within a group.A cult involves coercion, isolation, or dangerous practices, not just strong values.(00:03:54) Why Most Companies Lack Real Culture
Many organizations operate with generic or weak cultural identities.Strong cultures naturally repel people who don’t align, and that’s healthy.(00:08:24) The Role of Choice vs. Coercion
Healthy cultures invite people to opt in rather than forcing conformity.The difference lies in whether behaviors are celebrated or enforced.(00:13:07) Core Values vs. Generic Values
Real core values require sacrifice and clear differentiation.Generic values like “integrity” often fail unless deeply defined and lived out.(00:22:16) Culture Fit, Growth, and Personal Alignment
Strong cultures help people grow without forcing them to change who they are.Misalignment doesn’t mean rejection; it simply means the fit isn’t right.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 28 Apr 2026 - 26min - 277 - 266. The Book That Almost Wasn't
How do you know if someone truly belongs on your team?
In episode 266 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson review the surprising origin of The Ideal Team Player and why its simple framework continues to resonate years later. You’ll learn how the combination of humility, hunger, and smarts defines great team members—and what happens when one is missing. You’ll walk away with practical ways to hire better, develop your people, and build a stronger, healthier team culture.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:02:23) Origins of Humble, Hungry, Smart
Pat explains how the three values emerged from real-world leadership experience.The framework gained traction as clients recognized its universal relevance.(00:07:24) Why the Model Works So Powerfully
The simplicity of the framework makes it easy to apply immediately in teams.The combination of all three traits, not just one, is what drives true effectiveness.(00:11:14) Breaking Down the Three Traits
Humility, hunger, and smarts are defined with practical examples.The discussion highlights common misunderstandings, especially around “smart.”(00:21:55) The Dangers of Missing One Trait
The team explains the “accidental mess-maker,” “lovable slacker,” and “skillful politician.”Each type shows how the absence of a single virtue can damage team health over time.Get “The Ideal Team Player” today!
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Tue, 14 Apr 2026 - 41min - 276 - 265. Miserable Employees
How would your team’s culture shift if you started catching people doing their jobs well and celebrating those moments publicly?
In episode 265 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson revisit Pat’s book The Truth About Employee Engagement, arguing its lessons are crucial now. They unpack the three root causes of employee misery - anonymity, irrelevance, and immeasurement - and show how any manager can improve work experience by addressing these human needs. Through stories and takeaways, they emphasize that making employees feel known, valued, and empowered to measure success requires only intentional, consistent attention.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:06:46) Why the Solution Works Everywhere
Cody reflects on how remarkable it is that the book’s solution applies equally to an airport fast-food worker and a Fortune 100 executive.Pat introduces the first sign of a miserable job, anonymity, explaining that employees who feel unseen and unknown by their managers simply cannot love coming to work, no matter how much they earn.(00:12:25) Retention, Counterculture & Practical Advice
Pat and Cody discuss how knowing employees personally is a powerful and often overlooked retention strategy, noting that people rarely leave workplaces where they feel genuinely cared for as human beings.Why leaders should be vulnerable, admit the lapse openly, and invite employees to “catch you up” on their lives, then share what’s going on in your own.(00:16:42) Why Every Job Must Matter to Someone
Pat introduces the second sign of a miserable job, irrelevance, and illustrates it vividly by describing how a manager at the airport restaurant could tell that young employee his real purpose: to introduce a moment of joy and kindness into otherwise stressed travelers’ days.Cody and Pat agree that the manager’s responsibility is not only to articulate why a job matters, but to actively “catch” employees making a difference and celebrate those moments, because what gets celebrated gets repeated.(00:23:25) Immeasurement, the One-Minute Manager Demo & Closing
Pat introduces the third sign, immeasurement, arguing that every employee needs a way to assess their own performance that doesn’t depend solely on a manager’s subjective opinion.Pat is challenging listeners to immediately improve in one area of knowing their people, reminding them why their work matters, and helping them measure their success.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 31 Mar 2026 - 30min - 275 - 264. Give It Up
What is one behavior you repeat that may be undermining your leadership?
In episode 264 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson discuss how leaders can grow by identifying habits such as interrupting others, avoiding conflict, or deflecting discomfort with humor. Leadership advice often focuses on adding new tools, strategies, and frameworks, but sometimes the most powerful improvement comes from stopping a behavior that undermines your team. By practicing “addition by subtraction,” leaders can create healthier teams simply by removing one recurring behavior.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00:00) The Idea Of Leadership Subtraction
Patrick Lencioni introduces the concept that leaders can improve by stopping behaviors rather than constantly adding new practices.The hosts frame the discussion around the Lenten tradition of giving something up and apply that idea to leadership.(00:02:11) Personal Leadership Habits That Get In The Way
Patrick reflects on his tendency to interrupt others and explains how impatience and quick thinking contribute to that habit.Cody shares his own leadership tendency to use humor in uncomfortable situations and how that can sometimes derail important conversations.(00:07:56) Examples Of Leaders Who Needed To Stop A Behavior
Patrick shares stories of leaders who weakened their credibility by constantly talking about themselves or seeking affirmation.The conversation highlights how repeated behaviors can slowly erode trust within a team.(00:09:55) When Leaders Shut Down Or Ignore Conflict
Patrick and Cody discuss leaders who shut down disagreements or avoid addressing uncomfortable moments during meetings.They explain how ignoring conflict or difficult conversations can damage team health and prevent productive debate.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 17 Mar 2026 - 20min - 274 - 263. Short Range Strategy
How can strategy stay intentional when planning cycles keep shrinking?
In episode 263 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson examine how the pace of change has transformed strategic planning. What once centered on five or ten-year plans now often lives within a three to six-month horizon.
Rather than viewing this shift as chaotic, Patrick and Cody explain why a short-cycle strategy can be more responsible and effective. They explore how clarity of purpose and strong organizational health provide the stability needed to navigate constant change.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:03:57) Why Planning Horizons Have Shrunk
Technology and the rapid flow of information have dramatically accelerated the pace of change.
Businesses and industries now evolve so quickly that long-term certainty is nearly impossible.
(00:07:24) Planning Without Panic
A short-term strategy should not be confused with constant urgency or chaos.
Leaders can use sprint-based planning and frequent reassessment to stay intentional and focused.
(00:11:13) Values Replace Long-Term Predictions
Clear purpose and behavioral values now anchor organizations more than long-range forecasts.
Teams should focus on reaching the next base camp rather than mapping the entire journey.
(00:14:08) Organizational Health Creates Resilience
Strong culture and clarity provide stability when strategies must change quickly.
Healthy organizations can survive rapid shifts while competitors without strong foundations struggle.
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Tue, 03 Mar 2026 - 16min - 273 - 262. Be Extreme
What are you willing to repel in order to attract the right people?
In this episode of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson challenge the idea that businesses should try to appeal to everyone. Instead, they argue for being intentionally extreme in two areas: core values and strategic anchors. When organizations are unmistakably clear about how they behave and how they succeed, they naturally repel the wrong employees and customers while attracting the right ones. Through examples like In-N-Out, Dutch Bros, Costco, and Nordstrom, they show how clarity and conviction create a stronger culture, cleaner decision-making, and more loyal teams and customers.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Why Great Organizations Repel the Wrong People
* How strong values naturally filter out misaligned employees and customers
* Why trying to include everyone weakens culture
(04:11) Extreme Culture as a Competitive Advantage
* How distinctive companies become “weird” on purpose
* Why noticeable culture creates loyalty and differentiation
(07:46) Strategic Anchors and the Power of Saying No
* How a clear strategy eliminates distractions and opportunistic growth
* Why discipline matters more than chasing every opportunity
(11:33) Attracting the Right Customers by Design
* How strong strategy repels misaligned customers
* Why businesses grow faster when they stop trying to serve everyone
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Tue, 17 Feb 2026 - 17min - 272 - 261. Think Like A Six-Year-Old
Are you making your work more complicated than it needs to be?
In episode 261 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore why the ability to make something simple may be one of the clearest signs that someone truly understands it. They discuss how pride, expertise, and fear of looking uninformed can prevent leaders from asking basic questions and communicating ideas clearly. From consulting and organizational health to parenting and everyday life, Pat and Cody argue that the most important things are often simple, even when putting them into practice is incredibly hard.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Think Like a Six-Year-Old
Pat and Cody introduce the idea that if someone cannot explain something to a six year old, they may not understand it well enough themselves.They challenge the assumption that complicated problems automatically require complicated solutions.(04:27) Getting to the Other Side of Complexity
Pat shares how asking engineers to explain technology as if he were five helped him finally understand the business and eventually teach it to others.Pat and Cody explain why making an idea genuinely simple requires more effort than either oversimplifying it or leaving it complicated.(09:04) Why Simplicity Creates Real Value
Pat and Cody discuss how experts, consultants, authors, and companies can make knowledge inaccessible by confusing complexity with sophistication.Examples from business books and Apple illustrate why ideas and products often become more useful when they are made easier to understand.(13:57) The Humility to Say, "I Don't Get It"
Pat argues that adults lose some of the vulnerability children have when they freely admit that they do not understand something.Pat and Cody explore how pride and fear of embarrassment can keep people from asking the simple questions that would actually give them clarity.(18:47) Simple Doesn't Mean Easy
Pat and Cody explain why coaches, consultants, therapists, and leaders often create value by helping people repeatedly practice a few basic principles.They connect simplicity to organizational health, arguing that successful organizations consistently practice simple disciplines instead of relying on intellectual complexity.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.
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Tue, 03 Feb 2026 - 23min - 271 - 260. Isolation vs. Connection
Are you creating a workplace environment that feels like a cage or a park?
In episode 260 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody unpack a powerful metaphor—“cocaine water”—to explain the dangers of isolation at work. Drawing from a well-known behavioral experiment that involves cages and parks, they connect addiction, loneliness, and disengagement to modern workplace culture. The conversation makes a compelling case that real connection at work fuels not only productivity but also dignity, healing, and human flourishing.
Topics explored in this episode:
(01:23) The Cocaine Water Experiment
* A behavioral experiment shows how isolation drives destructive choices, while community changes behavior.
* The concept of a “rat park” illustrates how connection can eliminate addiction entirely.
(04:08) Isolation and Remote Work
* Reframing the remote-work debate as a question of human connection rather than location.
(07:52) Dignity and Productivity Are Not Opposites
* Connection improves results, satisfaction, and performance simultaneously.
(13:54) Why Humans Need Multiple Communities
* People are designed for varied relationships, not constant isolation or constant proximity.
* Healthy work provides experiences worth bringing home and sharing with others.
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Tue, 20 Jan 2026 - 19min - 270 - 259. Beware the High Achiever
If you’re achieving at a high level while ignoring the health of your inner life, how can you reset?
In episode 259 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore why high achievement can be a warning sign rather than a badge of honor. They explain how leaders often use success to compensate for fear, insecurity, or unresolved personal issues. The conversation underscores that true leadership effectiveness begins with inner health long before it shows up in organizational results.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:30) The Real Cost of High Achievement
* High achievement often masks deeper personal wounds and unmet internal needs.
* Why leaders must address their spiritual, emotional, and relational health before chasing success.
(03:15) The Inner Circle of Influence
* How Stephen Covey’s “circle of influence” applies to a leader’s need to focus first on their internal well-being.
* How fear can become the engine driving unsustainable achievement.
(05:35) Organizational Health Begins With Leader Health
* Warning signs: neglecting physical health, spiritual life, or family relationships despite outward business success.
(09:27) Pat’s Personal Journey With Identity and Achievement
* Pat opens up about decades spent tying his sense of worth to professional success and learning to shift toward internal wholeness.
(14:25) Beware the High Achiever in Yourself and Others
* Encouraging leaders to pursue hobbies imperfectly, embrace being “not the best,” and refuse to let performance define identity.
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Tue, 06 Jan 2026 - 19min - 269 - 258. The Fruits of Recommitment
Why does recommitting to trust matter more than recommitting to strategy?
Episode 258 of At The Table episode explores the moments when teams and relationships reach a breaking point—where everything could unravel or deepen. Pat and Cody reflect on their own recent off-site, sharing how choosing vulnerability and recommitment led them to greater unity, clarity, and trust. They argue that the “messy” work of recommitting isn’t soft; it’s the most essential and transformative part of leadership.
Topics explored in this episode:
(03:17) Why the Cliff Always Feels Real
* Early moments in The Table Group’s history when setbacks could have ended everything but ultimately created stronger bonds.
* Parallels between organizational plateaus and long-term marriage.
(07:06) Messiness, Trust, and Misconceptions
* Why leaders shouldn’t judge their own teams for imperfection.
* Challenging the myth that offsites should be purely strategic.
(10:58) The Moment of Truth
* The “moment of truth” where a leader either risks more vulnerability or puts a ceiling on the entire organization.
(15:03) Recommitment as the Path to Fruitfulness
* Why trust—not strategy—is what makes or breaks performance, speed, and long-term health.
* How naming hard truths unlocked unity, clarity, and deeper commitment.
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Tue, 23 Dec 2025 - 18min - 268 - 257. The Art of Messiness
Do you sometimes over-rely on data to cover yourself instead of trusting your judgment?
Episode 257 of At The Table explores why leaders often cling to data, certainty, and predictability—even though business is inherently messy. Pat and Cody discuss how fear of failure drives over-analysis, slowing decisions and weakening judgment. Ultimately, they argue that great leadership is an art fueled by instinct, courage, and human interaction—not algorithms or metrics.
Topics explored in this episode:
(03:15) Data vs. Instinct in Real Business
* Why instinct and common sense dominate real executive decision-making.
* The human tendency to return to predictability even when it repeatedly fails.
(06:29) When Data Misleads and Context Matters
* How statistical predictions often fail to capture real-life variables.
* How leaders hide behind numbers to avoid personal responsibility.
(09:13) The Power of Seeing the Problem Directly
* How over-reliance on data can obscure common sense and slow down problem-solving.
(11:40) Business as Art, Not Science
* The modern trend toward treating business as a purely scientific discipline.
* Why instinct and integrative thinking will never be replaced by either data or AI.
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Tue, 09 Dec 2025 - 15min - 267 - 256. What is a Toxic Culture?
How does working in a “toxic” culture affect your ability to perform and trust others? Also, if your organization has an unhealthy work environment, how can leaders begin the process of internal correction?
In episode 256 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack what “toxic culture” really means—and what it doesn’t. They explore how toxicity rarely starts at the bottom but usually traces back to the executive team’s dysfunction, lack of clarity, or tolerance for poor behavior. They also share the signs, causes, and antidotes of toxic workplaces, encouraging leaders to create environments rooted in honesty and accountability.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:20) Defining “Toxic Culture”
* The importance of defining “toxic” and challenging the assumption that perks equal health.
(04:00) The Source of Toxicity
* Toxic cultures almost always originate at the executive level, not among lower-level employees.
(08:00) How to Diagnose Toxicity
* Cody compares toxic environments to poor sleep—you can feel it without needing a metric.
(13:00) What Toxic Cultures Look Like
* Key signs: political behavior, tolerated poor performance, and confusion from unclear goals.
* How even good leaders can accidentally create toxicity.
(17:00) Healing and Hope for Teams
* Every organization experiences some level of dysfunction—but honesty and ownership can fix it.
* The idea of replacing the word “toxic” with “dysfunctional” or “political,” emphasizing that healing begins with truth.
In this episode, Pat and Cody discussed the following study by the employment website, Monster: “Toxic Workplaces Are Worsening: 80% of U.S. Workers Now Say Their Job Hurts Their Mental Health”; https://www.monster.com/career-advice/job-search/news-and-insights/mental-health-in-the-workplace-poll-2025
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Tue, 25 Nov 2025 - 22min - 266 - 255. Efficiency vs. Humanity
What happens when innovation outpaces our moral compass?
In episode 255 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody wrestle with the tension between technological innovation and human dignity in the workplace. As artificial intelligence reshapes industries, they ask whether efficiency has become more important than humanity. This episode invites leaders and consumers alike to seek a moral “true north”—one that values people over profit and connection over convenience.
Topics explored in this episode:
(02:57) Innovation Without a True North
* Concern that the rise of AI could fundamentally displace human work.
* Innovation must be guided by ethics and human-centered purpose, not just economic efficiency.
(07:15) The Role of Leaders
* The need for leaders to assess whether their choices serve humanity.
(10:10) The Role of Consumers
* Consumers voting with their wallets and resisting convenience that devalues human connection.
(14:27) The Convenience Crisis
* How people increasingly prioritize ease over meaning.
(18:45) Dignity, Work, and the Future
* The deeper value of work beyond income—as a source of dignity, growth, and relationship.
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Tue, 11 Nov 2025 - 25min - 265 - 254. Virtual Politics
Have your remote teams been unknowingly breeding politics through silence and distance?
In episode 254 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore how remote work can unintentionally foster politics and erode trust within teams. They unpack why virtual communication creates space for misunderstanding and suspicion—even among well-intentioned people. They also offer practical advice for building connections, restoring trust, and maintaining healthy team dynamics across distance.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Understanding Virtual Politics
* How “virtual politics” can be thought of as the subtle mistrust that grows when people work apart.
(03:30) How Distance Fuels Assumptions
* How lack of information makes people fill in the gaps—often with negative assumptions.
(06:27) Building Proactive Trust
* How frequent, small check-ins can keep trust alive.
* Why men and women sometimes handle connection differently and how teams can structure regular contact.
(09:43) Efficiency vs. Relationship
* How Zoom culture prioritizes efficiency over connection.
* Pat introduces the concept of “wasting time well” as essential for maintaining team health.
(11:52) The Ladder of Inference
* Pat explains the “ladder of inference” and how remote work accelerates false assumptions.
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Tue, 28 Oct 2025 - 18min - 264 - 253. Trust Must Be Exercised
Are you unintentionally eroding trust by avoiding hard conversations? Also, what happens to your team when trust goes unexercised?
In episode 253 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack why trust isn’t something to simply build and preserve—it must be used, stretched, and tested to grow stronger. They explore how leaders unintentionally erode trust by avoiding honest curiosity, mistaking it for suspicion.
Topics explored in this episode:
(00:00) Curiosity vs. Suspicion
* How simple questions like “What are you working on?” can build or break trust.
* Why avoiding questions to “protect” trust actually weakens it over time.
(04:59) Trust Isn’t a Museum Piece
* Unused trust is like a car that’s never driven—beautiful but purposeless.
(09:56) Healthy Relationships Aren’t Fragile
* How conflict and tension signal healthy trust, not dysfunction.
* The importance of exercising trust through candid conversations.
(13:28) Trust and Remote Leadership
* How distance and fear of misinterpretation can make trust decay faster.
(17:16) Leaders Must Take the First Risk
* Pat challenges leaders to stop being afraid of awkwardness and exercise trust first.
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Tue, 14 Oct 2025 - 19min - 263 - 252. Where There's Smoke...
What happens to a culture when leaders ignore problems?
In episode 252 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody explore the leadership principle of running toward the fire. They discuss why leaders often ignore the “smoke” of personnel or cultural issues, hoping problems will resolve themselves. Instead, they argue that credibility, trust, and organizational health are built when leaders courageously confront issues before they spread.
Topics explored in this episode:
00:35 – Seeing Smoke
* Leaders set the tone by how they respond to problems.
03:33 – Defining the Fire
* Personnel problems are the most commonly ignored fires in organizations.
06:03 – Why Leaders Avoid the Fire
* Confrontation feels messy and uncomfortable, especially when emotions are involved.
09:45 – The Cost of Avoidance
* Ignoring smoke damages credibility, weakens leadership muscle, and sets a bad cultural example.
12:20 – Regaining Credibility
* Leaders can only rebuild trust through visible action, not promises.
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Tue, 30 Sep 2025 - 15min - 262 - 251. Transition Equation
In what ways can the formula for change be useful for understanding both personal and organizational change?
In episode 251 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody explore the so-called change equation, a simple yet powerful formula that explains why some change efforts succeed while others stall. Breaking it down into dissatisfaction, vision, and a first simple step—multiplied together—they show how these elements must outweigh resistance for change to occur.
Topics explored in this episode:
0:55 – The Change Equation
3:17 – D: Dissatisfaction with the Current State
* How leaders and individuals can identify and amplify dissatisfaction.
4:38 – V: Vision for a Better Future
* The importance of painting a clear and compelling future state.
6:52 – F: The First Simple Step
* Why a small, achievable action builds momentum and reduces overwhelm.
17:59 – R: Resistance to Change
* How fear, comfort, and uncertainty fuel resistance.
Here are some additional notes that relate to the equation explored in this episode:
D × V × F > R.
D = Dissatisfaction with how things are now.
V = Vision of what is possible.
F = First concrete steps that can be taken towards the vision.
If the product of these three factors is greater than R = Resistance, then change is possible. Because D, V, and F are multiplied, if any one is absent (zero) or low, then the product will be zero or low and therefore not capable of overcoming the resistance.
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Tue, 16 Sep 2025 - 21min - 261 - 250. BaaM & WaaM
How would your workplace culture change if love and service were driving forces?
In episode 250 of At The Table, Pat and Cody introduce the concepts of BaaM (Business as a Ministry) and WaaM (Work as a Ministry). They explore how viewing business and work through the lens of service and love can create healthier workplaces and stronger organizations. Whether you’re leading a public company or managing a small team, this conversation will invite how you think about purpose, culture, and results.
Topics explored in this episode:
(0:32) Business as a Ministry (BaaM)
* How businesses can be seen as a way to serve others with love, going beyond just the transactional goal of making money
(3:10) The Case for Love in Business
* Tim Sanders’ book Love Is the Killer App.
* How fear-based businesses struggle while love-centered cultures thrive.
* The challenge of applying BaaM in public companies.
(5:48) Work as a Ministry (Waam)
* WaaM can be useful for employees in less purpose-driven organizations.
(8:07) Ministry Doesn’t Sacrifice Results
* John Gordon’s belief that love fuels high performance.
* Love-driven work produces results, but should be pursued because it’s right.
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Tue, 02 Sep 2025 - 18min - 260 - 249. Hunger Wins
How can you create a workforce of hungry people who aren't trying to prove their worth by the number of hours they work? And how can you help your coworkers build a sense of ownership and passion around their work?
In episode 249 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore why “hunger wins” when it comes to building competitive, effective teams. They challenge the misconception that long hours translate to productivity. They also reveal how to create sustainable competitiveness that inspires people to go above and beyond—without burning them out.
Topics explored in this episode:
(0:40) Hunger and Competitiveness
* Global trends and misconceptions about competitiveness, including China’s 996 work model.
(4:12) The Pitfalls of Overwork
* Why excessive hours lead to burnout and inefficiency.
(7:25) Hunger in Organizational Culture
* Hunger can’t be legislated or regulated—it must be built into culture.
* The importance of avoiding extremes, hiring the right people, and providing flexibility.
(10:09) Ownership and Sustainable Competitiveness
* How ownership fuels hunger and why pushing employees is sometimes necessary for growth.
(15:41) Hiring Right and Protecting Culture
* The importance of hiring competitive people and quickly addressing poor fits.
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Tue, 19 Aug 2025 - 18min - 259 - 248. Leadership Lessons From the Kisscam
How can leaders resist the ego-inflation that comes with praise and status?
In episode 248 of At The Table, Pat and Cody reflect on the viral Coldplay kiss cam scandal—not to sensationalize it, but to draw important leadership lessons from it. They explore the dangers of ego, power, and isolation for leaders, particularly those who fail to stay grounded in their home life and faith.
Topics explored in this episode:
(0:56) When Praise Becomes Poison
* Why the Coldplay incident is more than just clickbait—it’s a cautionary tale.
(6:44) How Leaders Lose Their Way
* "Reward-centered" versus "responsibility-centered" leadership mindsets.
* Leaders often start believing praise, inflating their sense of entitlement.
(9:08) Home vs. Work
* Praise and affirmation at work can distort leaders’ expectations at home.
* Leaders become vulnerable when they fail to invest emotionally in their families.
(14:20) Guardrails and Hard Truths
* Say out loud that your family is more important than work—and mean it.
(20:26) Building a Life That’s Enough
* Practical ways to reconnect with your spouse and share a vision at home.
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Tue, 05 Aug 2025 - 30min - 258 - 247. Leadership Isn't Cool
Why might being “cool” make someone a dangerous person to work for? And why are some of the greatest leaders uncool?
In episode 247 of At The Table, Pat and Cody challenge the cultural obsession with being “cool” and examine how it can corrupt leadership. Using a global study that defined six traits of coolness—especially “powerful” and “hedonistic”—they reveal how these values run counter to responsible leadership. Through stories, examples, and hard truths, they make the case that great leaders are often deeply uncool—and that's precisely what makes them trustworthy.
Topics Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore in this episode:
(3:39) The Six Traits of Cool
* The hosts list the six cool traits: adventurous, autonomous, open, extroverted, powerful, and hedonistic.
* Pat expresses deep concern about “powerful” and “hedonistic” being celebrated.
(6:53) Cool Traits
* Cody and Pat analyze “open,” “autonomous,” and “adventurous” as potentially valid for leaders.
* They debate whether extroversion belongs in either coolness or leadership.
(10:28) Why Hedonism and Power Don’t Belong
* Why hedonism contradicts servant leadership.
* The trap of confusing likability or popularity with effectiveness.
(16:25) The Dangers of Hiring Cool Leaders
* How boards and teams often choose “cool” over capable.
* Flipping the script—celebrating uncool, authentic leaders.
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Tue, 22 Jul 2025 - 19min - 257 - 246. Party at the DMV: When Meta-Culture Shapes Workplace Culture
How does the broader culture of your location influence your organization’s internal culture?
In episode 246 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore how meta-culture—the broader geographic or societal environment—shapes the internal culture of organizations. From experiences at the DMV to moving company headquarters, they share insights on how values interact with location.
Topics explored in this episode:
(2:44) Organizational Culture Exists Within a Larger Culture
* The macro culture of a city or state can either support or resist company values.
* Remote work and multiple locations complicate maintaining a cohesive culture.
(6:15) Moving Your Company
* Leaders should consider not just financials but cultural fit when moving.
* The meta-culture can affect hiring, operations, and team morale.
* Certain locations make it easier to find people who reflect your values.
* Some environments create cultural friction, while others foster cohesion.
(9:35) Navigating Meta-Culture
* Leaders should actively ask how geography is influencing their organization.
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Tue, 08 Jul 2025 - 15min - 256 - 245. Dissecting a GOAT
What are some universal traits of successful leaders that any leader in any field can emulate?
In episode 245 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson reflect on a remarkable leader they consider one of the greatest CEOs they’ve encountered—Tony Mazzella of Mazzella Companies. Tony’s approach to leadership is rooted in humility, deep responsibility, and a relentless desire to learn, all without seeking fame or recognition. This conversation breaks down the traits that make a truly great CEO, far beyond what the public eye ever sees.
Topics explored in this episode:
(2:42) Humility in Action
* Tony’s humility is evident in how he shares credit and doesn’t perform for attention.
(5:50) Identity & Integrity
* Tony’s peace stems from knowing his identity isn’t tied to performance.
(8:06) Responsibility and Motive
* Tony makes tough calls because he cares deeply for people; there’s no entitlement—just ownership of his role.
(10:28) Curiosity & Continued Growth
* Tony proactively pursued his Working Genius certification.
(13:41) Organizational Health
* True heroes of organizational health are the leaders who consistently put in the hard work of implementation.
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Tue, 24 Jun 2025 - 16min - 255 - 244. Embracing Tension is the Key to Innovation
Are you missing out on innovation because you're avoiding discomfort? How can you embrace the tension that's required for innovation?
In episode 244 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the crucial link between tension and innovation. They argue that real creativity requires discomfort—whether from interpersonal friction or environmental urgency. Through personal stories and business examples, they offer practical ways to embrace conflict and drive change before crisis strikes.
Topics explored in this episode:
(1:14) Tension Can Be Beneficial
* Innovation is universally desired but rarely pursued.
* True creativity demands both environmental and interpersonal tension.
* Most teams avoid conflict until a crisis forces change.
(3:52) Manufacturing Tension and Creativity
* Cody discusses how companies often manufacture environmental tension to force innovation, especially when complacency sets in.
* Pat connects innovation to creativity, drawing on his experience as an author and screenwriter.
(9:17) Does Every Business Need to Innovate?
* Innovation applies to all types of companies in different ways.
* Entrepreneurs often thrive on tension, but most leaders need to learn it.
(14:15) Manufacturing Urgency
* Crises like COVID accelerate innovation by necessity.
* Teams can simulate pressure by setting rallying cries or tight timelines.
(19:24) Fear or Joy Can Drive Innovation
* A team’s willingness to engage in healthy conflict is directly tied to innovation potential.
* The best employees crave meaningful tension and will leave if it’s missing.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
* Only the Paranoid Survive: How to Exploit the Crisis Points That Challenge Every Company, a book by Andrew S. Grove.
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Tue, 10 Jun 2025 - 23min - 254 - 243. Overcoming the "I’m Not Enough" Trap
Why do so many successful leaders struggle with the feeling of "not being enough"? And how can leaders shift away from a scarcity mindset?
In episode 243 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the pervasive feeling of inadequacy among leaders. They discuss how a "not enough" mindset can drive individuals to seek validation through constant achievement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, self-awareness, and shifting from a fear-based to a joy-based approach to life and work.
Topics explored in this episode:
(0:49) The Prevalence of "I'm Not Enough"
* Many leaders share a common feeling of inadequacy, often tracing it back to their youth.
* This feeling can create a cycle of constantly striving to prove yourself, hindering your ability to find satisfaction in accomplishments.
(5:04) The Impact of Vulnerability
* Sharing your feelings of inadequacy with others can normalize these experiences, encouraging them to acknowledge their own struggles and seek support.
(9:07) The Scarcity Mindset
* Believing "I'm not enough" can lead to a scarcity mindset, affecting your perceptions of time, success, and resources.
(14:23) The Illusion of Control
* The pursuit of control over outcomes can lead to anxiety and prevent you from embracing the present moment.
(18:36) Finding Peace in the Journey
* Reframing your perspective can help you foster a sense of peace.
* Embracing the journey and finding joy in the process can lead to greater fulfillment than solely focusing on the result.
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Tue, 27 May 2025 - 22min - 253 - 242. Hard Times with Dave Ramsey: The Bright Side of Adversity
How do we as business leaders not be discouraged by hard times and instead see the good that can result from them?
In episode 242 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni welcomes legendary financial expert and leadership voice Dave Ramsey for an unfiltered conversation about hard times. As Pat mentions in the intro, this is not your average interview. They discuss the current economic and cultural moment, explore the importance of values-based leadership, and call out the failures of transactional mindsets. This episode challenges leaders to hold the line on integrity, even—and especially—when things get tough
Topics explored in this episode:
(2:46) The Ubiquity of Adversity
* Leaders should expect to face new forms of adversity as they grow their business.
* Adversity can distort one's perception, making challenges seem more overwhelming than they are.
(8:24) The Genesis of a Calling
* How Dave’s bankruptcy led him to discover his calling in helping others manage their finances.
* Helping others through hardship can transform personal struggles into a meaningful career.
(17:24) Developing Resilience
* How previous challenges can build resilience and provide perspective on current difficulties.
* Leaders must work through challenges rather than avoid them.
(22:50) Navigating the Stages of Business
* Dave outlines the five stages of business growth: treadmill, pathfinder, trailblazer, peak performer, and legacy.
* Each stage presents unique challenges and requires different strategies for success and progression.
(31:09) Continuous Learning
* Effective leaders are lifelong learners who integrate insights from various sources and generously credit others.
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* EntreLeadership: 20 Years of Practical Business Wisdom from the Trenches: https://store.ramseysolutions.com/business-and-career/books/entreleadership/
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Tue, 13 May 2025 - 35min - 252 - 241. Beware of Success
What happens when the external validation of your success conflicts with your internal values and purpose?
In episode 241 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the hidden dangers of traditional success metrics. They also discuss how businesses and individuals can lose their way when they chase recognition that doesn’t align with their original purpose.
Topics explored in this episode:
(0:40) The Michelin Star Story
* How a small restaurant in Italy gave up its Michelin star to stay true to its identity.
(4:51) Aligning Success With Intentions
* Why companies lose their way when they follow external expectations.
* The importance of anchoring decisions to the question: "Why do we exist?"
(8:46) Success and Personal Growth
* Arthur Brooks' wisdom about valuing the process over outcomes.
* How personal definitions of success change over time, especially in creative fields.
(13:02) The Cost of Chasing the Wrong Goals
* How woundedness can drive people to seek approval through achievements.
* Reflections on athletes and leaders who chose integrity over external trophies.
* Why true success means being proud of who you're becoming, not just what you achieve.
(17:53) Staying Grounded Amid Temptation
* Lessons from early Table Group decisions to resist the IPO craze.
* The ultimate call to stick to your "why" for lasting fulfillment.
Books mentioned in this episode:
* Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara.
* The Advantage: Why Organizational Health Trumps Everything Else In Business by Patrick Lencioni.
* From Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks.
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Tue, 29 Apr 2025 - 20min - 251 - 240. A Different Look at DOGE
Why is it so difficult to reform government inefficiencies? And what can organizations and households learn from eliminating waste in large, public institutions?
In episode #240 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore the concept of government efficiency through the lens of organizational health. Drawing comparisons between the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), the federal government, and dysfunctional teams, they highlight the painful necessity of accountability and cutting waste.
Topics explored in this episode:
(01:04) Reframing DOGE
* The goal is to explore waste and accountability without partisan heat, looking instead at structure and culture.
(6:09) Government vs. Private Sector
* The federal government is not set up to be a team like private sector organizations.
(10:47) The Storage Unit Analogy
* Cody shares a story of trying to help a hoarder consolidate two storage units, which becomes a metaphor for government systems that resist change.
(15:24) Accountability
* Leadership requires doing what is right, even when it’s unpopular or emotionally difficult.
(20:44) Mistakes Will Happen
* Even a well-intentioned cleanup will result in some regrettable losses.
* Without a willingness to risk minor mistakes, the entire system remains unsustainable.
(25:31) DOGE in Your Organization
* The hosts discuss applying DOGE at the Table Group.
* Even healthy organizations benefit from periodically eliminating waste.
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Tue, 15 Apr 2025 - 31min - 250 - 239. Does Fear or Joy Drive Your Leadership Style?
How can we start to address unresolved challenges in our lives that impact people profoundly and sometimes in painful ways?
In this episode, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson discuss the podcast's return after a six-month break, and a shift in content to include broader societal and cultural issues. Pat also shares his personal journey of self-discovery, focusing on addressing his own wounds and trauma, and explores how this deeply personal work relates to leadership and organizational health.
Topics explored in this episode:
* (8:04) The Impact of Wounds on Leadership
* How fear can drive leaders.
* (11:58) The Catalyst for Self-Discovery
* Pat’s realization that running from his issues was more painful than confronting them.
* The temptation to deny your own wounds.
* (16:34) The Universality of Wounds
* Everyone has wounds, such as neglect, shame, rejection, and abandonment.
* Healing is a lifelong process.
* (21:14) Encouraging Healing
* Addressing wounds sooner rather than later.
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Tue, 01 Apr 2025 - 23min - 249 - Fall 2024 Announcement
We're taking a break from uploading new episodes this fall, but we're looking forward to a return in 2025. Thank you to all of our listeners!
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Wed, 02 Oct 2024 - 00min - 248 - 238. Conflict Scarcity
We've mentioned in the past that we think the modern workplace is in a 'conflict drought'. This week, Pat, Cody and Beau discuss the relationship between trust and conflict, and get to the bottom of what we're really missing.
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Wed, 25 Sep 2024 - 20min - 247 - 237. The Heart of an Organization
There are certain parts of an organization that cannot be changed without essentially refounding the whole company. This week, the team talks about core values.
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Wed, 11 Sep 2024 - 23min - 246 - 236. The Trouble With Humility
Authority and humility are not mutually exclusive. This week, the team talks about the role of a leader and the importance of perspective, dignity, and self-awareness.
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Wed, 21 Aug 2024 - 21min - 245 - 235. The Growth Curve
To avoid pain at the expense of your core values and purpose is a terrible idea. This week, Pat and the team discuss the growth curve and how organizations must approach the navigation of inevitable downturns.
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Wed, 14 Aug 2024 - 23min - 244 - 234. The Real Cost of Mediocrity
The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. This week, Pat and the team discuss the causes of mediocrity, and why it comes with costs beyond the financial.
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Wed, 07 Aug 2024 - 22min - 243 - July Rerun: One Hour Coaching HackWed, 31 Jul 2024 - 27min
- 242 - July Rerun: Plant Your Friggin TreeWed, 24 Jul 2024 - 20min
- 241 - July Rerun: Be a JerkWed, 17 Jul 2024 - 24min
- 240 - July Rerun: Change is Easy, Transition is HardThu, 11 Jul 2024 - 26min
- 239 - 233. The Good, the Bad, and the Invulnerable
Invulnerability is ugly, and it can crush a team. This week, Pat, Cody, Tracy and Beau talk about how we can root out invulnerability in ourselves and explain why our relationships will improve as a result.
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Thu, 27 Jun 2024 - 28min - 238 - 232. The Power of the Word of Mouth
A studio can spend millions of dollars promoting a movie, but we're still most likely to see it when it's recommended by a friend. This week, Pat and the team discuss the difference in impact that hearing something directly from another person can have.
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Wed, 19 Jun 2024 - 22min - 237 - 231. Conflict; Worth the Risk
Conflict is never comfortable - and it isn't meant to be. This week, Pat and the team discuss the nature of conflict, and how it can be used not only to more effectively achieve strategic objectives, but also to strengthen relationships within a team.
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Wed, 12 Jun 2024 - 14min - 236 - 230. Local Heroes
Decisions should always be pushed to the lowest possible level, closest to where they will be making the most impact. This week, the team discusses the influence of the customer on culture, strategy, and decision-making at the executive level.
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Wed, 05 Jun 2024 - 23min - 235 - 229. The Motivation Vacuum
If a leader does not provide employees with a primary motivation, something else will fill that gap. This week, Pat and the team discuss alignment around clarity and the difference between micro and macro motivations.
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Wed, 29 May 2024 - 21min - 234 - 228. The Daily EKG
Where are the spikes in your day? This week, the team compares their energy levels throughout the day to an EKG, and explains how we can take advantage of this awareness.
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Wed, 22 May 2024 - 20min - 233 - 227. Values are Verbs
An organization's culture lives through its values, and values are first demonstrated in hiring. This week, Pat, Cody and Beau discuss the insitututionalization of culture through the intentional application of values.
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Wed, 15 May 2024 - 24min - 232 - 226. The Two Simplest Indicators
What are the two simplest indicators for determining the health of an organization's culture? This week, Pat, Cody and Tracy talk about the importance of alignment and engagement among the executive team as well as the happiness and connectedness of the employees who impact the culture the most.
The Two Simplest Indicators:
How is the executive team? Are they engaged, and how do they interact with each other?
Who are the employees that impact the culture the most? Does each person on the executive team agree on who those people are, and are those employees happy with their roles?
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Thu, 09 May 2024 - 16min - 231 - 225. Beware of the Lone Dissenter
Beware of the lone dissenter. This week, Pat and the team discuss the danger of allowing a single voice to override the interests of the team.
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Wed, 01 May 2024 - 19min - 230 - 224. Unfair Advantages
Create your own competitive advantage. This week, Pat and the team discuss unwritten rules, agility, and courage.
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Wed, 24 Apr 2024 - 20min - 229 - 223. Bubble Trouble
Which bubbles are you a part of? This week, Pat and the team discuss the existence and implications of 'bubbles' as they relate to industries, expertise, and technology.
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Wed, 17 Apr 2024 - 22min - 228 - 222. Smell Your Customers
Please don't actually smell your customers. This week, Pat, Cody, and Beau discuss why being in close proximity to customers and clients is necessary if we want our products and services to hit the mark.
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To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Wed, 10 Apr 2024 - 26min - 227 - 221. Uncomfortable Safety
The concepts of trust and conflict in the workplace are still just as simple as they were two decades ago. This week, Pat and the team discuss their thoughts on 'psychological safety'.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
This week's unpaid ad: https://turo.com/
Wed, 03 Apr 2024 - 18min - 226 - 220. Productive Eavesdropping
'Eavesdropping' is a part of our organization's culture, and it helps our team stay on the same page. This week, Pat and the team discuss the merits of having strategic conversations within earshot of your colleagues and giving others the opportunity to clue in to the content of your meetings.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
This week's unpaid ad - LOGE Camps: https://www.logecamps.com/home
Related Episodes:
167. The Never-Ending Meeting: https://www.tablegroup.com/167-the-never-ending-meeting/
191. When Gossip is Good: https://www.tablegroup.com/191-when-gossip-is-good/
Wed, 27 Mar 2024 - 24min - 225 - 219. Long Before the Headline
Strategic mistakes are not the root cause of business failure - they're a downstream symptom of organizational dysfunction. This week, Pat and the team conduct a forensic analysis of businesses successes and failures including Ford, United Airlines, and Hertz.
Hertz CEO Resigns After Big Bet on EVs Fails to Pay Off: https://tinyurl.com/HertzCEOResigns
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Wed, 20 Mar 2024 - 22min - 224 - 218. Zoom Out
For most of us, virtual meetings are now a regular part of our workday. This week, Pat and the team take a forensic look at video conferencing and discuss some simple recommendations for improving our approach to virtual meetings.
Summary Article - 8 Limitations and 4 Recommendations: tablegroup.me/zoomarticle
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Wed, 13 Mar 2024 - 32min - 223 - 217. Open on Sunday with Craig Groeschel
What's it like leading a large organization, and how is it different if that organization is a church? This week, Pat and Cody are excited to be joined by good friend and special guest host Craig Groeschel. Craig is the founder and pastor of Life Church, the host of The Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast, and the bestselling author of many books related to leadership, faith, and everything in between.
Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast: https://tinyurl.com/CGroeschelLeadershipPodcast
Craig's Newest Book, Think Ahead: https://www.craiggroeschel.com/books/think-ahead
Life Church: https://www.life.church/
Thu, 07 Mar 2024 - 47min - 222 - 216. Robin and Batman
Batman needs Robin, and the same sentiment is true in all types of organizations. This week, the team talks about the importance of the second in command, both in their relationship to the leader and to the success of the team.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
NFL Episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bonus-are-you-ready-for-some-football/id1474171732?i=1000625628299
To listen to the 3-Minute Reset: https://3minutereset.org/
Wed, 28 Feb 2024 - 22min - 221 - 215. Strategy Takes Courage
Implementing strategy requires difficult decisions. This week, Pat and the team discuss the importance of strategic anchors, and the type of courage that leaders must have in order to make sure their employees are rowing in the same direction.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
To listen to the 3-Minute Reset: https://3minutereset.org/
Wed, 21 Feb 2024 - 22min - 220 - 214. Jugglers Anonymous
Juggling too many things is dangerous, especially as a leader. This week, Pat and the team discuss the importance of simplicity as it relates to our priorities and how we spend our time.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
The 49ers may have lost, but you can still use code TEAM25 until Wednesday, Feb 14 at midnight PT to earn 25% off all assessment purchases!
Working Genius Assessment: https://www.workinggenius.com/
5 Dysfunctions of a Team Assessment: https://www.tablegroup.com/topics-and-resources/teamwork-5-dysfunctions/#5dAssessment
Unpaid ad: Lantern-style flashlights
Wed, 14 Feb 2024 - 19min - 219 - 213. The Luxury of Failure
Every experience we have is either an asset or a liability. This week, the team discusses survival and the importance of how we choose to deal with failure.
The 49ers may have lost, but you can still use code TEAM25 until Wednesday, Feb 14 at midnight PT to earn 25% off all assessment purchases!
Working Genius Assessment: https://www.workinggenius.com/
5 Dysfunctions of a Team Assessment: https://www.tablegroup.com/topics-and-resources/teamwork-5-dysfunctions/#5dAssessment
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Unpaid ad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crouton
Wed, 07 Feb 2024 - 22min - 218 - 212. Virtues, Values and Volition
It's always important to be intentional about the way we behave and apply our talents at work. This week, Pat, Cody and Tracy make distinctions between virtues and values.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Wed, 31 Jan 2024 - 20min - 217 - 211. Scrappy Doo and Don't
It's one of the most important qualities of high-performing teams and the people that make them up. This week, Pat and the team talk about what it means to be scrappy.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
This week's unpaid ad: https://areyougame.com/products/ggc3009-the-game-of-fuzzy-logic
Wed, 24 Jan 2024 - 21min - 216 - 210. Hit the Reset Button
Hit the reset button. This week, Pat and the team discuss a simple way to reinforce clarity on a team.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Wed, 17 Jan 2024 - 18min - 215 - 209. Backseat Driver
How do you influence a team when you're not the leader? This week, Pat, Cody, Tracy and Beau discuss org health and managing up.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
This week's unpaid ad: https://www.nissinfoods.com/product/top-ramen/top-ramen-chicken/
Wed, 10 Jan 2024 - 21min - 214 - 208. Human Intelligence
We may not be experts in the field of technology, but we do understand humans. This week, Pat, Cody and Beau share their thoughts about the rise of artificial intelligence.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
To listen to the 3-Minute Reset: https://tinyurl.com/3minutereset
Fri, 05 Jan 2024 - 28min - 213 - 207. Liar Liar
Being positive all the time isn't necessarily a good thing. This week, the team talks about the importance of being genuine and the danger of artificial praise.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
To subscribe to the 3-Minute Reset: https://tinyurl.com/3minutereset
Wed, 20 Dec 2023 - 34min - 212 - 206. Abnormally Normal
Being 'normal' is rarer than you think. This week, the team talks about some recent experiences as customers, and why mastering the fundamentals of running a business, managing your employees, and serving your clients is actually what makes an organization stand out.
This week's unpaid ad - The Normal Brand: http://tinyurl.com/unpaidnormalbrand
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Wed, 13 Dec 2023 - 21min - 211 - 205. 360 Degrees of Separation
What is the best way to provide feedback and evaluate performance? This week, Pat, Cody, Tracy and Beau discuss the problems with 360 degree feedback and provide some effective alternatives that increase trust on a team rather than damaging it.
Team effectiveness article: https://tinyurl.com/teameffectivenessarticle
Team effectiveness exercise pdf: https://tinyurl.com/teameffectivenessexercisepdf
Check out the 5 Dysfunctions of a Team Assessment: https://tinyurl.com/ttgteamassessment
Listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
This week's unpaid ad: https://tinyurl.com/EmberMugs
Wed, 06 Dec 2023 - 35min - 210 - 204. Multitasking Sucks
Multitasking sucks. This week, Pat, Cody and Tracy discuss switching costs, corporate attention deficit, and the problems with what we consider to be 'multitasking'.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
To take the Six Types of Working Genius Assessment: https://www.workinggenius.com/
Thu, 30 Nov 2023 - 22min - 209 - 203. A Dash of Vulnerability
It's holiday season, and for most of us, it won't hurt to be a little more vulnerable with the people around us. This week, Pat and the team discuss some simple ways to strengthen our relationships.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Wed, 22 Nov 2023 - 17min - 208 - 202. Working Towards Healing
Healing is possible within the context of work. This week, the team discusses what we believe to be a fundamental reason for making our organizations healthy.
Listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Thu, 16 Nov 2023 - 38min - 207 - 201. Beware of the Novel, Easy, and Immediate
Beware of the novel, easy, and immediate. This week, Pat and the team discuss why even the best companies, teams, and individuals ignore the simple, proven solutions in favor of comfortability and short-term results.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
Wed, 08 Nov 2023 - 25min - 206 - 200. The Smart/Humble Dilemma
Is there a gray area between the accidental mess-maker and the skillful politician? This week, Pat, Cody, Tracy and Beau look back after 200 episodes of the At the Table Podcast, and discuss the implications of wounds on the Ideal Team Player model.
Listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
Check out the Ideal Team Player: https://www.tablegroup.com/product/ideal-team-player/
Wed, 01 Nov 2023 - 30min - 205 - 199. The Company You Keep
The people that you surround yourself with probably have a greater impact on you than you think. This week, Pat, Cody and Tracy discuss the importance of being intentional about the company you keep, and how you can apply this to the people you spend 40 hours with each week.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
See Pat 'At the Whiteboard' for a free live virtual event! Info and registration: workinggenius.me/atwnovreg
Wed, 25 Oct 2023 - 19min - 204 - 198. LIVE - The Forgotten First Book
This week, the entire podcast team discusses Pat's first book - The Five Temptations of a CEO - and takes questions from a live audience of Table Group Principal Consultants.
Connect with a Table Group Consultant: https://www.tablegroup.com/consulting/
Check out The Five Temptations of a CEO: https://www.tablegroup.com/product/temptations/
Listen to the Working Genius Podcast: https://www.workinggenius.com/podcast
3M Flipcharts: https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/cobbjw018027/
Thu, 19 Oct 2023 - 40min - 203 - 197. World Events and the Workplace
When things happen in the world around us, we still go to work. This week, Pat and the team discuss the most and least effective ways managers and leaders can address current events with their teams.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
Thu, 12 Oct 2023 - 17min - 202 - 196. Leaderlessness
Why do teams need leaders? This week, Pat and the team discuss the concept of a leaderless team, and whether or not the idea has any merit.
Listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
Take the 5 Dysfunctions of a Team Assessment: tinyurl.com/5dysfunctionsofateamassessment
Unfrustrate your meetings and join Pat "At the Whiteboard" for a free, virtual live event! workinggenius.me/atwnovreg
Wed, 04 Oct 2023 - 24min - 201 - 195. The Least You Can Do
Leaders have many responsibilities, but too often the most basic aspects of the role are overlooked. This week, Pat and the team discuss employee engagement and provide some simple but necessary ways to make sure you're creating the right environment for your team.
Questions for Leaders:
What do I know about the people that work for me?
When’s the last time I asked them about these things?
Why does their job matter to somebody else (customers, clients, vendors, colleagues etc..)?
When’s the last time I reminded them of why their job matters?
How can I observe whether they’re being successful?
When’s the last time I let them know how they’re being successful?
Unfrustrate your meetings and see Pat 'At the Whiteboard' this November for a free live virtual event! Info and registration: workinggenius.me/atwnovreg
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
Thu, 28 Sep 2023 - 35min - 200 - 194. The Invisible Threat
What is your company culture, and how can you protect it? This week, Pat and the team discuss the context of organizational values and how they are affected by the culture at large.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
To become a Certified Working Genius Facilitator: https://workinggenius.me/certpodcast23
To take the 5 Dysfunctions of a Team Assessment: https://www.tablegroup.com/product/online-team-assessment/
Wed, 20 Sep 2023 - 29min - 199 - 193. Inside the Moat
Where exactly is your organization's moat, and who lives inside? This week, Pat and the team talk about why it is so important to be intentional about the way you involve and build relationships with employees, partners, and vendors within your business.
Listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
NFL Leadership Notes: https://files.tablegroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/05054954/NFL-Team-Rankings-Updated.pdf
Become a Working Genius Certified Facilitator: https://workinggenius.me/certpodcast23
Wed, 13 Sep 2023 - 23min - 198 - 192. Politics Isn't Politics
Conflict without trust is politics. But what exactly is politics? This week, Pat and the team discuss the implications of manipulative behavior in the workplace.
Pat's NFL Leadership Ranking Notes: https://files.tablegroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/05054954/NFL-Team-Rankings-Updated.pdf
Take the Online Team Assessment: https://www.tablegroup.com/product/online-team-assessment/
Listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
Article - 7 Types of Manipulation: https://tinyurl.com/manipulationarticle
Thu, 07 Sep 2023 - 27min - 197 - 191. When Gossip is Good
Gossip is always a bad thing... right? This week, the team talks about why gossip - under certain circumstances - is actually necessary and productive.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
Wed, 30 Aug 2023 - 21min - 196 - Bonus: Are You Ready for Some Football?
This week - despite Tracy's best efforts - Pat and the fellas talk football. Tune in to this special episode for a breakdown of Pat's new framework for predicting the success of NFL teams based on their leadership.
Check out Pat and Cody's short-lived "Sports Culture" podcast
Fri, 25 Aug 2023 - 32min - 195 - 190. Boring Meetings SuckWed, 23 Aug 2023 - 30min
- 194 - 189. The Leadership Hat Trick
A hat trick from Patrick. This week, the team boils down what it takes to be a good leader into three simple concepts.
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
To take the Six Types of Working Genius Assessment: https://www.workinggenius.com/
Wed, 16 Aug 2023 - 26min - 193 - 188. Whatever You Say, Boss
Conflict and discomfort is necessary on a healthy team, but when exactly is it better to be deferential to the leader? This week, Pat, Cody and Tracy discuss the humanity of managers and the importance of humility in managing others.
To take the Six Types of Working Genius Assessment: https://www.workinggenius.com/
To listen to the Working Genius Podcast: tinyurl.com/workinggeniuspodcast
To order Jon Gordon's Newest Book, The One Truth: https://jongordon.com/book/the-one-truth/
Pat's newest movie recommendation: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443536/
Wed, 09 Aug 2023 - 18min
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