Build or Break

https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/ Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team: Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen

https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/ Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team: Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen

https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/ Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team: Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen

Jamie Siminoff was personally bankrupt before Shark Tank even aired. When Kevin O'Leary offered him $700K for 10% of his company, he walked away with no deal. Amazon bought that company, Ring, for $1.15 billion. In this episode of Build or Break, Jamie breaks down the actual mechanics behind the story most people only know the headline version of: why he turned down Mr. Wonderful on national TV, how everything almost fell apart before Shark Tank even filmed, and what he says now about first-night sales numbers that most founders get wrong. He also gets into the failed products before Ring (including an email he sent Nest's founder that changed his approach), what Ring's Fire Watch tool did during the Palisades fires, and why the app has reunited millions of lost dogs with their families. Daniel Lubetzky sits down with Jamie for an unfiltered conversation about rejection, conviction, and fish tanks. Fish tanks? Yes, fish tanks.  00:00 Cold Open & Intro 0:58 Meet Jamie Siminoff, the Garage Inventor Turned Billion-Dollar Founder 8:13 The Doorbot Era: Pre-Sales, Debt, and Desperation 11:41 Shark Tank: The Pitch That Almost Saved Him 22:00 The November Miracle: When Everything Changed 26:22 From DoorBot to Ring: Rebuilding Everything in Nine Months 28:54 The Safety Pivot: When Crime-Solving Became the Mission 34:43 The Mind of an Inventor: From Fish Tanks to Floodlights 47:32 Life at Amazon: The Entrepreneur in the Machine 55:21 The Mexican Inquisition: Jamie Sets a New Record 1:01:58 Build or Break? https://x.com/JamieSiminoff https://www.instagram.com/jsiminoff https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiesiminoff/ https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/  Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team:  Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen

Andrew Yang was right about the 2024 election. He was right about AI. He was right about MATH. When he talks, you better pay attention! I sat down with Andrew Yang for a wide-ranging conversation that moves from personal to political and back again — getting bullied as the only Asian kid in his school, quitting a prestigious law firm five months in, and building the "Yang Gang" from a fringe campaign into a national movement built on a $3 million baseball cap. Andrew opens up about the hardest year of his life — becoming a father to a son later diagnosed as on the autism spectrum — and connects it directly to why he ran for president. He breaks down why 94% of Congress never loses reelection despite a 10% approval rating, why he quit the Democratic Party in 2021, and why investors will fund almost anything as long as it has "AI" in the name. Along the way: the real story behind "MATH," his viral Cupid Shuffle moment, and a live demonstration of my favorite party trick/pain tolerance tester I brought over from Mexico! Andrew is funny, blunt, and still relentlessly early on the things everyone else eventually catches up to. Watch the full interview now. 0:00 – Cold open & Intro 2:05 – Getting bullied as the only Asian kid in school 4:40 – Quitting his law career & his first failure 9:12 – The roots of his entrepreneurship 13:32 – Investors who'll only fund you if you slap "AI" on it 19:55 – The real origin story of "MATH" 24:45 – Gerrymandering, primaries, and why Congress doesn’t work 39:04 – Andrew’s vision for an independent presidential primary 44:57 – His two biggest lessons for anyone running for office 48:50 – His biggest professional regret 54:38 – What Andrew’s doing now 58:23 – Mexican Inquisition and Toques 1:08:06 – Rapid-fire: Build or Break round  Follow Andrew:  https://www.youtube.com/@AndrewYangPodcast https://www.instagram.com/andrewyang/ https://www.tiktok.com/@officialandrewyang https://x.com/AndrewYang https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewyangvfa/ https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/  Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team:  Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen

Chris Paul opens up about the night his grandfather was murdered — and the 61-point game he played right after that could have broken Michael Jordan's state scoring record. CP3 sits down with me for a conversation that goes past the highlight reel — the jump ball trick he used for 20 years that referees never called, the night in 2005 he learned his grandfather had been beaten to death, and his next game where he scored 61 points and then deliberately threw the ball out of bounds, just shy of a state record. Chris talked with me about the Clippers exit he calls "one of the most disrespectful things I've endured," why he turned down a third Olympics to be with his family, the five hand surgeries and 16 screws that came with 21 years in the league, and building his snack brand Good Eat’n the same way he built a Hall of Fame career: one rep at a time. Show Notes:  Insane CP3 comp, including the triple steal - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRowTV3zfn4 CP3 suspends the laws of physics - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QHsntNaDZh0 Follow Chris: https://www.instagram.com/cp3/ https://x.com/CP3 https://www.tiktok.com/@cp3 https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrispaul3/ Good Eat'n: https://goodeatn.com/ Chris Paul Family Foundation: https://www.instagram.com/chrispaulfamfdn/ CP3 Camps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Paul_Camps https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/  Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team:  Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen

Kendra Scott started her first company to give hats to cancer patients. It failed. With $500, a spare bedroom, and a newborn baby, she started again, and this time built one of the most recognizable brands in America. Kendra Scott sits down with me for a wide-ranging, funny, and unexpectedly emotional conversation — from getting bullied so badly in middle school she ate lunch in a bathroom stall, to the stepfather whose battle with brain cancer inspired her first (failed) business, to the ten years she spent unable to get a single investor to write her a check. Kendra opens up about building Kendra Scott out of a spare bedroom with a newborn on her hip, why she named the company after herself almost by accident, the "worst boss" who taught her the most, and what it's really like behind the scenes as the newest full-time Shark on Shark Tank. She also talks candidly about launching her second brand, Yellow Rose, why she'll never franchise, and the advisor-turned-first-investor she lost far too soon. All images from Kendra's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/officialkendrascott/ https://www.instagram.com/kendrascott/ https://www.tiktok.com/@officialkendrascott https://x.com/kendrascott https://www.linkedin.com/company/kendra-scott https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/  Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team:  Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen

Kevin O'Leary opens up about the $12.9M card he wore to the Oscars, what he did that almost ended his engagement, and the moment his stepfather told him he'd never make it. Before Shark Tank, before "Mr. Wonderful," Kevin O'Leary was a kid getting told by his stepfather that he wasn't good enough to be a photographer. In this episode of Build or Break, Kevin sits down with Daniel Lubetzky for a conversation that goes far past the TV persona — the $12.9M sports card he bought on a hunch (and turned down $21M for), the night he had to tell his fiancée he cheated, firing his best friend in the early days of his first company, and the "signal vs. noise" framework he learned from Steve Jobs that still runs his entire day. You’ve never seen Mr. Wonderful like this. I’VE never seen him like this. This is Kevin without the edit — brutal honesty about business, marriage, grief, and the stepfather he says made him who he is. Thank you for coming, Kevin! https://www.instagram.com/kevinolearytv/ https://www.youtube.com/@kevinoleary https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinolearytv https://x.com/kevinolearytv https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinolearytv/ Personal site: https://kevinoleary.com O'Leary Ventures: https://olearyventures.com Shark Tank profile: https://sharktankgroup.com/kevin-oleary.html Show Notes: All images from Kevin’s Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/  Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team:  Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen

My friends Steven Bartlett, Andrew Yang, Kendra Scott, and Jason Alexander all agree: this time I may have gone too far. Subscribe to Build or Break to hear the rest of our stories. https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/  Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team:  Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen Bz54IbbpZJY1Yddl7hbv

12 icons. One story you think you know. Mark Cuban got fired. Kevin O'Leary got fired. Chris Paul got released. Kendra Scott failed before she built a billion-dollar company. Every guest on this show has a moment where it could've gone either way. Build or Break is a new interview series from Daniel Lubetzky — founder of KIND Snacks, Shark Tank investor — sitting down with the people who've been closest to the edge and asking what it took to keep going when everyone else would have quit. This trailer features conversations from upcoming episodes with Mark Cuban, Kevin O'Leary, Chris Paul, Andrew Yang, Steven Bartlett, Fareed Zakaria, Robert Rodriguez, Jason Alexander, Jamie Siminoff, Kendra Scott, Ben Sasse, and Melva Wallace. 3 episodes drop 9/3, then weekly on Tuesdays starting 9/15. Subscribe so you don't miss them. https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ 🙋🏻Become a Builder: https://buildersmovement.org/  Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team:  Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen

Chris Paul. Steven Bartlett. The moment before everything almost fell apart. I'm Daniel Lubetzky — founder of KIND Snacks, a Shark Tank investor, and a "confused Mexican Jewish social entrepreneur." I started KIND with one bar and a hundred rejections. Now I'm building the most ambitious project of my life: a podcast about what it actually takes to build something — and the moments almost nobody talks about, when it nearly broke you instead. This is Build or Break. In this series, you’ll see Chris Paul reveal the moment he went into shock. Steven Bartlett, host of Diary of a CEO, open up about his early struggles. Kevin O'Leary on his greatest personal trial. Andrew Yang on living up to the expectations of immigrant parents. Plus Mark Cuban, Kendra Scott, Fareed Zakaria, Jason Alexander, Lucy Aharish, Robert Rodriguez, Jamie Siminoff, Ben Sasse, and Melva Wallace — builders, investors, and leaders who've all faced the same decision: build, or break? https://www.instagram.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.tiktok.com/@daniellubetzky https://x.com/DanielLubetzky https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellubetzky https://daniellubetzky.com/ Music: Amos Cochran https://www.editscoremusic.com/ Production: Straybird Studios https://www.straybird.studio/ Post Production: Jennell Lewis & Scott Convery Social Media Production: https://www.edits-etc.com/ Build or Break Team:  Executive Producer & Host: Daniel Lubetzky Executive Producer: Kristin Schneider Head of Programming & Production: Joel Rubin Marketing & Communications: Sarah Black Associate Producer & Social Media: Taylor Larned Booking & Scheduling: Kayla Rose Network Relations: Julianna Cohen