Digital HR Leaders with David Green

You’ve mapped your workforce’s skills. What changes in the decisions your organisation makes?

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green welcomes back Loïc Michel, co-founder and CEO of 365Talents, a Docebo company, to explore how organisations can connect skills intelligence, learning and workforce strategy. From closing capability gaps to redeploying talent and reducing reliance on external contractors, they discuss what it takes to make skills data useful in everyday business decisions. They also explore how AI agents could change the work of HR, and why human judgement remains essential.

Join them as they discuss:

Why learning and skills technology grew up separately, what bringing them together enables How to measure whether capability gaps are closing through a cycle of detecting, developing and assessing skills Why skills initiatives stall at the mapping stage, and how a clear business problem and committed leadership keep them moving How SNCF used skills intelligence to identify internal capabilities and reduce reliance on subcontractors Where AI agents can support learning and career development, and how to keep people in the lead on workforce decisions Why understanding skills and tasks is essential to preparing people for changing jobs and work shared with AI agents

This episode is sponsored by 365Talents, a Docebo company.

Every organisation approaches skills in its own way, so 365Talents designs its talent intelligence solutions to adapt to how each business works. HR teams use them to put skills-based strategies into action more quickly and to see the impact across the whole organisation.

Find out more about 365Talents

Building or refining your skills strategy? The 2026 Skills Toolkit brings together 14 free HR templates covering every stage of the journey. It includes a business case built for your CFO, a structured framework for comparing vendors, a strategy you can take to the board, and practical tools for day-to-day HR operations and rollout.

Get free access to the 2026 Skills Toolkit

Resources:

365Talents newsletter

365Talents skills resources

Docebo

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As AI makes knowledge more widely available, are organisations paying enough attention to the relationships that help people put it to work?

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Michael Arena and Greg Pryor, co-founders of the Connected Commons and co-authors of the forthcoming book, The New Social Code: Five Relational Edges That Outperform Algorithms. Drawing on decades of organisational network research and experience leading talent in major organisations, Michael and Greg explore how human connections shape performance, career progression and the ability to turn new ideas into action. Michael is Dean of the Crowell School of Business at Biola University and previously served as Chief Talent Officer at General Motors and VP of Talent at AWS. Greg’s career spans talent leadership and consulting at organisations including Accenture, Workday, Merrill Lynch and Juniper Networks. Together, they make the case for bringing social capital into talent practices alongside skills and experience, helping people build the relationships they need for the work they do today and the responsibilities they may take on tomorrow.

Join them as they discuss:

Why relationships become more important as AI makes knowledge easier to accessThe five relational edges: opportunity, trust, attention, insight and influenceWhy bigger networks can undermine performance, and how to balance deep trust with broader connectionsHow onboarding can help new joiners build trust and contribute more quicklyHow to recognise collaboration overload and support the people connecting different parts of the organisationWhat networks reveal about future leaders, and practical ways to apply this thinking without sophisticated analytics

This episode is sponsored by 365Talents, a Docebo company.

Every organisation approaches skills in its own way, so 365Talents designs its talent intelligence solutions to adapt to how each business works. HR teams use them to put skills-based strategies into action more quickly and to see the impact across the whole organisation.

Find out more about 365Talents

Building or refining your skills strategy? The 2026 Skills Toolkit brings together 14 free HR templates covering every stage of the journey. It includes a business case built for your CFO, a structured framework for comparing vendors, a strategy you can take to the board, and practical tools for day-to-day HR operations and rollout.

Get free access to the 2026 Skills Toolkit

Resources:

The New Social Code: Five Relational Edges That Outperform Algorithms

The New Social Code Compendium Newsletter

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What changes when the people function is designed not as a collection of separate HR processes, but as part of the operating system of the company?

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Jack Buckley, Chief People and Systems Officer at Roblox, to explore how measurement, people analytics, technology and workforce strategy come together inside one of the world’s best-known technology companies.

Jack’s career spans the US Navy, academia, applied statistics, large-scale assessment and game-based hiring before leading people and systems at Roblox. That background has shaped a clear philosophy: before organisations make better people decisions, they need to be confident they are measuring the right things, with data they can trust.

Join them, as they discuss:

Why data quality and measurement should come before advanced analytics Lessons from building a people science and analytics function during hypergrowth Why People and Finance need a shared view of workforce data and planning How the Roblox operating system brings people processes, technology and internal products together When organisations should buy technology, customise it or build their own How AI is reshaping recruiting, assessment, performance, retraining and workforce planning at Roblox Why skills atrophy could become a significant challenge as employees rely more heavily on AI tools How to balance rapid experimentation with rigorous evaluation and governance Why measuring the work and skills people actually use is essential to redesigning work and creating business value

This episode is sponsored by 365Talents, a Docebo company.

Every organisation approaches skills in its own way, so 365Talents designs its talent intelligence solutions to adapt to how each business works. HR teams use them to put skills-based strategies into action more quickly and to see the impact across the whole organisation.

Find out more about 365Talents

Building or refining your skills strategy? The 2026 Skills Toolkit brings together 14 free HR templates covering every stage of the journey. It includes a business case built for your CFO, a structured framework for comparing vendors, a strategy you can take to the board, and practical tools for day-to-day HR operations and rollout.

Get free access to the 2026 Skills Toolkit

Resources:

Roblox

Insight222 People Analytics Trends 2025/26

HR Operating Model for the AI Era

Try Roblox's Coding Cookies practice assessment

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Your organisation has committed to an AI strategy. But what does that commitment mean for the people who have to work differently because of it?

AI adoption is moving into a more demanding phase. The challenge for HR and learning leaders is translating technology investment into new capabilities, different ways of working and measurable business outcomes.

In this special episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Mike Wynn, SVP, Academy Executive for AI Capabilities & Enterprise Learning Products at Bank of America, and Himanshu Palsule, CEO of Cornerstone. Together, they explore what it takes to build an AI-ready workforce, combining the practical experience of capability building at scale with a broader perspective on workforce intelligence, skills and work redesign.

Join them as they explore:

How Bank of America is building AI confidence and capability across every career stage, from self-paced learning to collaborative, experiential workshopsWhy every AI capability the bank teaches is anchored to human skills such as judgement, critical thinking and strategic thinkingWhy organisations need to connect AI strategy with workforce strategy by understanding how work, tasks and skills are changingHow workforce intelligence can help organisations connect signals about people and work with outcomes such as productivity, mobility and workforce transformationWhy learning increasingly needs to happen in the flow of work, as technology makes development more continuous and contextualWhy course completions and attendance are insufficient measures of success, and why leaders should instead look for changes in behaviour, work and business outcomesWhat HR and learning leaders should prioritise when ambitious AI plans have yet to translate into a clear people strategy

For CHROs, CLOs and workforce leaders, this conversation offers a practical roadmap for moving beyond AI experimentation and building the workforce capability needed to turn ambition into business value.

This episode is sponsored by Cornerstone.

Industries, organisations and workforces are all changing at once, and most people leaders are trying to respond with fragmented data and processes that move too slowly to keep up. Cornerstone brings together the insights leaders need, the learning and skills that move people forward, and AI agents that turn intelligence into action, helping organisations build a workforce that’s ready for what’s next.

Explore Cornerstone Workforce AI™ and the wider platform here. And if you are building the case internally, Cornerstone's CHRO Mandate eBook on workforce readiness is a useful place to start: CHRO Mandate eBook

Find out more about Cornerstone here.

Resources:

Cornerstone Connect, Chicago

Bank of America Careers

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What if the thing slowing down AI in HR isn't the technology at all, but the way the function is set up to deliver it?

Most HR organisations already have access to AI. The bigger challenge is whether the way HR is structured, governed and measured is ready to turn that technology into sustainable business value.

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Michael Rochelle, Chief Strategy Officer, principal analyst and co-founder of Brandon Hall Group, to explore new research identifying six structural moves for building an AI-enabled HR operating model.

Join them, as they discuss:

Why the operating model can become the constraint on AI transformation, even when the technology is ready What changes when HR manages recruiting, learning, employee experience and workforce planning as continuously evolving products rather than finite programmes Why great people and well-designed processes need to come before technology, and the risks of automating processes that already need redesigning How talent pods, workforce product teams and centres of excellence can combine business proximity with scalable solutions and enterprise standards Why HR business partners need deeper business acumen and a stronger performance consulting mindset Why governance works best when it is embedded into design and delivery, helping create the trust required for innovation Why HR needs to strengthen capabilities in judgement, critical thinking, business acumen and data and analytics as work changes How leaders can measure business, workforce, system and future impact rather than simply tracking implementation activity

For CHROs and HR leaders rethinking how their function operates, this conversation provides a practical framework for creating an HR model that can continuously adapt, scale and deliver measurable value.

This episode is sponsored by HiBob.

HiBob is the people platform built for the AI era, helping organisations replace fragmented HR systems with a unified foundation for workforce management.

That's why Brandon Hall Group says unified workforce platforms are becoming the foundation for organisations looking to scale AI with confidence.

The report also includes a practical business case template with ROI modelling and executive evaluation criteria to help build your transformation strategy.

Download the Brandon Hall Group HCMS Platforms Report

Resources:

Brandon Hall Group

The AI-Enabled HR Operating Model

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As AI reshapes work, the people function has an opportunity to play a much bigger role in how organisations navigate the transformation. At Snowflake, that starts with trusted data, strong people analytics and a clear view of what technology should automate, where it should augment human capability, and what should remain human. 

In this episode, David Green is joined by Arnnon Geshuri, Chief People Officer at Snowflake. Drawing on a career that includes senior roles at Google, Tesla and Teladoc Health, Arnnon explains why data has become a common language between HR and the business, and how Snowflake is putting that philosophy into practice. 

In this conversation, David and Arnnon discuss: 

Why people analytics gives HR greater credibility and influence with senior business leaders Snowflake’s model for deciding what to automate, what to augment and what should remain human How Snowflake’s talent acquisition team is building its own tools, including an application that reduced hours of work on job descriptions to minutes Why AI is changing jobs, career paths and the skills people will need as work is redesigned Why trusted data is essential to workforce transformation, and how Snowflake puts interactive organisational insights directly into managers’ hands How Snowflake’s talent acquisition team achieved a 20% productivity improvement, and why Arnnon focuses on business outcomes rather than tool usage Why analytics, systems thinking and change management are becoming essential capabilities for current and aspiring Chief People Officers 

 

For HR and people analytics leaders, this conversation provides a practical look at how a data-led people function can help shape work, strengthen decision-making and lead organisational transformation. 

This episode is sponsored by HiBob.   

HiBob is the people platform built for the AI era, helping organizations replace fragmented HR systems with a unified foundation for workforce management. That's why Brandon Hall Group says unified workforce platforms are becoming the foundation for organizations looking to scale AI with confidence.

The report also includes a practical business case template with ROI modeling and executive evaluation criteria to help build your transformation strategy.  

Download the Brandon Hall Group HCMS Platforms Report  

  

Resources:   

Snowflake 

Careers at Snowflake 

Snowflake Education and Training

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A year ago, the challenge was getting people to use AI. Now, the harder task is turning widespread experimentation into redesigned work, stronger productivity and measurable business impact. 

In this episode, David Green is joined by Ronni Zehavi, Co-Founder and CEO of HiBob, to explore what the company has learned from its own award-winning AI transformation. Ronni also shares an early, inside perspective on Salesforce’s $166 million investment in HiBob and why it represents an important next chapter in the company’s evolution towards an Organisational Intelligence platform, built on trusted workforce context to help organisations redesign work and make better decisions as people and AI increasingly work side by side. 

Join them, as David and Ronni discuss:

Why HiBob shifted its focus from experimentation and adoption to measuring productivity, impact and business value Why managers are the critical change agents in workforce transformation, and what HiBob learned from its Leading with AI programme Why skills are becoming increasingly important to work redesign, and how this is reshaping job architecture, hiring and development How Ronni has changed his own behaviour as CEO, including building a digital twin that has become part of how he works every day Why trusted people and organisational data is central to HiBob’s vision for Organisational Intelligence, and what the Salesforce investment could mean for the company’s next chapter Why HR needs to take a leading role in redesigning work, while simultaneously transforming its own capabilities, processes and ways of working 

For HR and business leaders navigating the same transition, this is a candid look behind the curtain at what it takes to move from promising adoption numbers to meaningful changes in how work gets done and measurable business impact. 

This episode is sponsored by HiBob.   

HiBob is the people platform built for the AI era, helping organizations replace fragmented HR systems with a unified foundation for workforce management. That's why Brandon Hall Group says unified workforce platforms are becoming the foundation for organizations looking to scale AI with confidence.  

The report also includes a practical business case template with ROI modeling and executive evaluation criteria to help build your transformation strategy.

Download the Brandon Hall Group HCMS Platforms Report  

Resources:   

HiBob resources hub 

HiBob's 2026 Josh Bersin HR Pacesetter Award for AI Transformation

The $166 million investment round led by Salesforce

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Your AI adoption numbers might be climbing. But what do they tell you about your people?  

Kelly Jones, Chief People Officer at Cisco, and her team set out to answer that question, and the findings are reshaping how Cisco thinks about engagement, performance, leadership, and the future of HR itself. 

In this conversation, David and Kelly discuss:

What prompted Cisco's People Intelligence team to ask a bigger question about AI than most organisations are asking The connection between AI use, employee engagement, and career growth at Cisco Why leaders who use AI themselves are so critical to driving adoption across their teams The confidence gap Cisco is seeing between director-level leaders and mid-level employees, and what to do about it How this transformation is reshaping the HR function itself, and the skills needed to build HR for an "intelligence era" The wellbeing cost of change at this pace, and where to start if you don't know where to begin 

This episode is sponsored by HiBob.

HiBob brings HR, Payroll, and Finance together into a single platform that employees actually use. With AI throughout, you move faster, work smarter, and empower your people to power your business.   

Sapient Insights recognises HiBob’s AI vision, citing the Bob AI Companion for making everyday work faster and easier. Fosway Group also names HiBob a 2025 9-Grid™ Core Leader, recognising the strongest AI vision among Core Leaders.    

HiBob. All-in-one HCM for HR, Payroll, and Finance.   

​​​Learn all about HiBob’s modern HR platform here

Resources:  

Cisco's Journey in AI Workforce Transformation  

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If you knew you might live to 100, how differently would you think about the career you are building today? 

Lynda Gratton is Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour at London Business School, where she's taught for more than thirty years and leads the world's number one ranked programme in human resources. Lynda is also the bestselling co-author of the million selling The 100-Year Life.  

Ahead of the publication of her new book, Living the 100-Year Life: How to build a career that lasts and a life you love, Lynda joins David to explore why longer lives are stretching the traditional education, work and retirement model to breaking point, and what this means for individuals and organisations. 

In this episode, David and Lynda discuss: 

The eight threads Lynda believes can help us build resilient and fulfilling working lives, and why calm is becoming increasingly important Why “amplification”, our relationship with technology and AI, is one of the eight threads we need to manage deliberately How AI is reshaping work at the level of tasks, and what that means for the careers we build Why career architectures, mobility and development models designed for shorter, more predictable working lives need to evolve How organisations can help people navigate repeated transitions across careers that could span 50 or 60 years 

Ultimately, this is a conversation about longevity, technology and human agency, and how individuals and organisations can make the extra years we have been given count. 

This episode is sponsored by HiBob.  

HiBob brings HR, Payroll, and Finance together into a single platform that employees actually use. With AI throughout, you move faster, work smarter, and empower your people to power your business.   

Sapient Insights recognises HiBob’s AI vision, citing the Bob AI Companion for making everyday work faster and easier. Fosway Group also names HiBob a 2025 9-Grid™ Core Leader, recognising the strongest AI vision among Core Leaders.    

HiBob. All-in-one HCM for HR, Payroll, and Finance.   

​​​Learn all about HiBob’s modern HR platform here

Resources:  

Living the 100-year old Life: How to build a career that lasts and a life you love 

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Should workforce transformation belong to HR? Bettina Dietsche, Group Chief People and Culture Officer at Allianz, doesn't think so. 

Bettina leads the people agenda for around 156,000 employees at Allianz. She came to HR after 25 years in IT and digital transformation, picking up the people function while serving as COO of Allianz Commercial during a company turnaround. That background shapes her view that HR's job is to challenge and push transformation onto the business agenda - not to own it.

In this episode, David and Bettina discuss: 

Why she believes HR should challenge and nudge workforce transformation, while ownership sits with the businessHow 25 years leading IT and digital transformation, including a COO turnaround, shaped her approach to the CPO roleWhy she runs regular sessions with more than 60 CEOs across Allianz, and what that partnership actually looks like in practiceHer test for a healthy culture - what people do when no one's watching - and why she calls culture "the hardest currency"How Allianz builds daily AI habits into leadership, from "AI gem sessions" to asking each morning what AI can help with firstWhy she sees AI creating as many new early-career roles as it displaces, and how Allianz is reshaping graduate hiring around that 

This episode is sponsored by Valence.  

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before.

As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.

Learn more at valence.co/insight222

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Do you know which of your people are wired to thrive in chaos, and which ones need certainty to do their best work? 

In this episode, David is joined by Mike Flannagan, Corporate Vice President, Customer & Commercial Success at Microsoft, and Paul Burgess, founder of Instinctive Drives, to explore Microsoft's recent partnership with Instinctive Drives and what it reveals about the human side of AI transformation. Together they unpack why the biggest barrier to AI adoption isn't the technology itself, but the mismatch between people's natural instincts and the roles they're being asked to play. 

Join the dynamic trio as they discuss: 

Why AI adoption is a people transformation How the Instinctive Drives framework explains why people react so differently to change What happens when the wrong people get pushed into high-experimentation, high-failure roles Why psychological safety is the real prerequisite for AI adoption at scale How a shared language around instincts can rebuild trust and speed up team performance 

Listeners can try their own Instinctive Drives assessment for free for a limited time (expires 31st of October 2026) - the link is in the show notes below. 

This episode is sponsored by Instinctive Drives.  

As organisations invest heavily in AI, the people expected to deliver are often overwhelmed and working against their own natural wiring. Instinctive Drives' science-backed methodology reveals how each person is wired to work - which is why Microsoft chose them as their strategic partner for enterprise AI adoption worldwide. 

Try your own Instinctive Drives assessment for free at instinctivedrives.com/digitalhrleaders - available until 31 October 2026. 

Resources:  

Instinctive Drives assessment - available until 31 October 2026 

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Do you know which of your people are wired to thrive in chaos, and which ones need certainty to do their best work? 

In this episode, David is joined by Mike Flannagan, Corporate Vice President, Customer & Commercial Success at Microsoft, and Paul Burgess, founder of Instinctive Drives, to explore Microsoft's recent partnership with Instinctive Drives and what it reveals about the human side of AI transformation. Together they unpack why the biggest barrier to AI adoption isn't the technology itself, but the mismatch between people's natural instincts and the roles they're being asked to play.

Join the dynamic trio as they discuss:

Why AI adoption is a people transformation How the Instinctive Drives framework explains why people react so differently to change What happens when the wrong people get pushed into high-experimentation, high-failure roles Why psychological safety is the real prerequisite for AI adoption at scale How a shared language around instincts can rebuild trust and speed up team performance 

Listeners can try their own Instinctive Drives assessment for free for a limited time (expires 31st of October 2026) - the link is in the show notes below. 

This episode is sponsored by Instinctive Drives.

As organisations invest heavily in AI, the people expected to deliver are often overwhelmed and working against their own natural wiring. Instinctive Drives' science-backed methodology reveals how each person is wired to work — which is why Microsoft chose them as their strategic partner for enterprise AI adoption worldwide.

Try your own Instinctive Drives assessment for free atinstinctivedrives.com/digitalhrleaders - available until 31 October 2026.

Resources:  

Instinctive Drives assessment - available until 31 October 2026

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How do you bring AI into an organisation without losing what's made it work for 150 years? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Eric Dozier, Executive Vice President and Chief People Officer at Eli Lilly, to explore what it takes for HR to lead AI and workforce transformation at enterprise scale.  

Join them, as they discuss: 

Why HR has to transform twice over in the AI era, first as a function, then as an organisation  What prompted Lilly's AI journey, and how the friction points that came up shaped the approach going forward How the role of the manager is changing as AI becomes part of everyday work What separates AI capability from simply increased AI usage The principles guiding Lilly's approach to responsible AI, including where it supports leadership judgement and where it shouldn't How employee feedback has reshaped Lilly's AI strategy, and what Eric believes HR leaders should prioritise as they lead their own transformations 

This episode is sponsored by Valence.  

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before. 

As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.  

Learn more at valence.co/insight222

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What if the resistance you're seeing from your team isn't opposition at all? 

David Green is joined by Travis Hahler, who leads global strategy and transformation at Salesforce and is also the founder of Neurological Nomad, where he applies neuroscience and neuropsychology to how leaders manage change. Travis is the author of the new book Rethink Resistance, and his central argument reframes almost everything: resistance isn't personal, it's protective. 

Why resistance to change should be read as information, not opposition:

The six neurological barriers to change, and why leaders need to understand each one How routine and old habits quietly pull people back toward what made them successful before, even when they're not against the future Why cognitive load and pacing determine whether people actually learn through a transformation, or just survive it What employees are really losing in change that's genuinely good for them, and why leaders often miss it How to apply these insights practically to workforce transformation and AI adoption 

Whether you're leading a transformation right now or preparing for one, this conversation will change how you think about the resistance you're seeing. 

This episode is sponsored by Valence.  

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before. 

 As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.  

Learn more at valence.co/insight222  

Additional resources: 

Rethink Resistance: Embracing Neuroscience to Lead Transformational Change

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Is your HR function organised the way employees actually experience it, or just the way it's always been done? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Tony Truong, VP of People Strategy, Operations, Technology and Analytics at Chime, to unpack why most HR functions are still organised in silos, by specialty, while employees experience work as a series of moments: getting hired, being onboarded, going for a promotion. Tony has spent the last two years closing that gap, rebuilding Chime's people function from the ground up as the company has scaled into a public company. 

In this episode, David and Tony discuss: 

Why the real limitation holding HR back is fragmentation, not ambition What it's taken to rebuild a people function from the ground up at a newly public company How AI has reshaped recruiting at Chime, cutting a process that used to take days down to hours Tony's three-stage framework for thinking about AI's role in the business: assistance, automation, and orchestration What it actually looks like to move people analytics from the periphery of HR to the centre of how a business makes decisions 

This episode is sponsored by Valence.  

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before. 

 As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.  

Learn more at valence.co/insight222  

Additional resources: 

Deloitte Global Human Capital Trends 2026 Report

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How do you tell the difference between AI that's genuinely transforming HR and AI that's just a slide in a vendor deck? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Parker Mitchell, Founder and CEO of Valence, the team behind the AI coaching platform Nadia, to discuss what it really takes for HR to prove value in an increasingly crowded AI market. 

Join them, as they discuss: 

How to separate genuine AI capability from marketing claims in an increasingly crowded marketWhy AI budgets are increasingly coming from the C-suite rather than HR, and what that means for how HR shows up in these conversationsWhat CHROs should be asking before choosing between an AI-native provider and a legacy platform with bolted-on AI featuresHow the best people analytics teams are proving ROI from AI coaching, beyond adoption metricsWhat it looks like to make performance management continuous rather than a once or twice-a-year processWhy frontline and operational workers need a different approach to AI coaching than knowledge workersValence's recent partnership with Microsoft and what it signals about where AI coaching is heading 

This episode is sponsored by Valence.  

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before. 

 As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.  

Learn more at valence.co/insight222

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What would your organisation look like if it worked more like an octopus — distributed, adaptive, and capable of sensing and reacting without waiting for instructions from the centre? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Phil Lebrun and Jana Werner, Executives in Residence at Amazon Web Services and authors of The Octopus Organization, to explore why so many transformations fail to stick — and what a more adaptive, human approach to change actually looks like. 

Join them as they discuss:

What the octopus organisation metaphor is, and why it offers a different model to the traditional, hierarchical "Tin Man" organisation The three themes — clarity, ownership, and curiosity — that separate organisations that adapt well from those that don't Why transformation can no longer be treated as a one-time event HR's evolving role in driving and supporting transformation How to measure whether change is actually working, beyond vanity metrics Real examples of leaders and organisations putting these ideas into practice 

This episode is sponsored by Valence.  

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before. 

 As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.  

Learn more at valence.co/insight222

Resources:

The Octopus Organization by Phil Lebrun and Jana Werner 

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Is purpose at work as straightforward as we've made it out to be? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Jessica Zwaan, VP People Strategy and Operations at Leapsome and author of Built for People and Purpose and Work, to explore what the research actually tells us about purpose at work — and what that means for how HR shows up for people. 

Join them as they discuss: 

Why treating HR like a product function changes the questions you askWhat the research on purpose at work really reveals, and why the reality is more nuanced than the narrativeWhat purpose washing is, how it happens, and what it can look like in practiceWhat a more grounded alternative to purpose-led culture could look likeWhy really knowing your people is the foundation of all of itHow perceptions of HR are evolving, and what's driving that shift 

This episode is brought to you by Leapsome - the people-first HR platform that connects performance, engagement, and HR operations in one place, so you get a complete picture, not half the story.  

See it in action at leapsome.com/demo. 

Resources:  

Built for People by Jessica Zwaan  Purpose and Work by Jessica Zwaan People over Perks, the Leapsome Community

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How do you rebuild a company's entire capability infrastructure — and fund the transformation through the savings it generates? 

Zaka Farhat is Global SVP for Talent, Learning, Organisation and Capability Development at GSK, where she leads the company's enterprise-wide skills, learning and capability agenda. In this episode, Zaka shares the full story of how GSK rebuilt its capability infrastructure in 18 months - retiring more than 20 legacy systems, building a single skills and learning ecosystem, and funding the transformation through the savings it generated. 

Join them as David and Zaka discuss:

Why GSK's skills transformation began with a commercial question about capability and cost The five conditions for organisational readiness that had to be in place before any platform launched How GSK approached skills taxonomy, job architecture and inference, and what they had to redo along the way What personalised learning looks like at scale, and how skills data is now shaping workforce planning decisions What GSK chose to stop, and why decommissioning is the step most transformations skip How Zaka's team is measuring impact across three KPI layers 

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf. 

The world of work is being rewritten faster than HR systems can keep up. Skills age in months. Roles get redesigned quarter by quarter. CHROs have quietly become AI transformation leads, and the data they need to lead it doesn't exist in any HR system. 

That's why the world's most forward-looking enterprises such as HSBC, AMD, T-Mobile, GSK, ServiceNow, Pfizer, have built on TechWolf.  

As the data layer for the AI era of work, TechWolf gives enterprises the skills, they need to move faster and lead with confidence.  Skills Intelligence, Work Intelligence, and Market Intelligence, in one layer. Visit techwolf.ai.

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How do the world's most forward-thinking organisations use skills intelligence, market intelligence and work intelligence together to stay ahead? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Mik Wornoo, co-founder and President of US at TechWolf, to explore how organisations are using three signals together to build a strategic workforce planning strategy that can keep pace with AI, and what that looks like in practice. 

In this conversation, David and Mik discuss: 

What skills intelligence, work intelligence and market intelligence each bring to strategic workforce planning, and why all three matter What work intelligence actually means in practice, and how decomposing work into tasks is changing how organisations understand the impact of AI on their workforce How AI is actively reshaping roles right now, and what that means for strategic workforce planning, job architecture and redeployment Real-world case studies from organisations using all three signals to make smarter workforce decisions and align their people strategy with their AI strategy What it actually looks like to get started, and why the barrier to entry is lower than most HR leaders think 

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf. 

The world of work is being rewritten faster than HR systems can keep up. Skills age in months. Roles get redesigned quarter by quarter. CHROs have quietly become AI transformation leads, and the data they need to lead it doesn't exist in any HR system. 

That's why the world's most forward-looking enterprises such as HSBC, AMD, T-Mobile, GSK, ServiceNow, Pfizer, have built on TechWolf.  

As the data layer for the AI era of work, TechWolf gives enterprises the skills, they need to move faster and lead with confidence.  Skills Intelligence, Work Intelligence, and Market Intelligence, in one layer. Visit techwolf.ai. 

Resources:  

TechWolf podcast

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What does it take to turn a 300-year-old bank into the UK's biggest fintech? 

Sharon Doherty is Chief People and Places Officer at Lloyds Banking Group, and over the last four years she's been leading one of the most ambitious organisational transformations in British financial services - 300-year-old institution reinventing itself as the UK's biggest fintech.

In this episode, David and Sharon get into what transformation at that scale actually looks like from the inside - the governance, the culture work, the AI strategy, and the tough calls that only leadership can make. 

How Sharon thinks about her role as CPPO through three lenses: storyteller, tough lover, and disruptorThe AI governance structure at Lloyds, including the control tower she runs with the CTO and the ethics committee underpinning every decisionThe cross-functional super agent Lloyds is building with MicrosoftWhy HR leaders should be fighting to get Places on their remit, and how ownership of the physical environment transforms what the function can deliverHow Lloyds is approaching the shift from AI literacy to AI fluency across 80,000 peopleWhat Sharon thinks the world of work looks like in 2033, and the role HR must play in getting there 

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf. 

The world of work is being rewritten faster than HR systems can keep up. Skills age in months. Roles get redesigned quarter by quarter. CHROs have quietly become AI transformation leads, and the data they need to lead it doesn't exist in any HR system. 

That's why the world's most forward-looking enterprises such as HSBC, AMD, T-Mobile, GSK, ServiceNow, Pfizer, have built on TechWolf.  

As the data layer for the AI era of work, TechWolf gives enterprises the skills, they need to move faster and lead with confidence.  Skills Intelligence, Work Intelligence, and Market Intelligence, in one layer. Visit techwolf.ai.

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Are your meetings actually working? Or has your calendar just become a system nobody knows how to switch off? 

In this episode, David Green is joined by Rebecca Hinds, Stanford-trained organisational researcher, Head of the Work AI Institute at Glean, and author of Your Best Meeting Ever: 7 Principles for Designing Meetings That Get Things Done.  

In this conversation, David and Rebecca discuss: 

Why organisations should treat meetings as a product, and what that actually means in practice The concept of meeting debt, and why calendars accumulate bloat in the same way codebases accumulate technical debt What a 48-hour calendar cleanse involves, and what typically happens when organisations rebuild their calendars from scratch The patterns that show up most consistently when mapping how work actually moves between teams How AI is being used to improve meetings, and the ways it can make dysfunctional meeting culture worse What the conversation looks like in the room when CHROs start rethinking collaboration for the AI era 

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf. 

The world of work is being rewritten faster than HR systems can keep up. Skills age in months. Roles get redesigned quarter by quarter. CHROs have quietly become AI transformation leads, and the data they need to lead it doesn't exist in any HR system. 

That's why the world's most forward-looking enterprises such as HSBC, AMD, T-Mobile, GSK, ServiceNow, Pfizer, have built on TechWolf.  

As the data layer for the AI era of work, TechWolf gives enterprises the skills, they need to move faster and lead with confidence.  Skills Intelligence, Work Intelligence, and Market Intelligence, in one layer. Visit techwolf.ai. 

Resources: Your Best Meeting Ever: 7 Principles for Designing Meetings That Get Things Done 

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Most organisations are asking how to get more from their people. But what if the real question is how to get more from the time they spend at work? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Joe O'Connor, founder of Worktime Revolution, and Jared Lindzon, future-of-work journalist and author, to explore the research-backed case for the four-day working week, and what it means for how HR leaders design, lead and transform work. 

Join them as they discuss: 

Why the five-day working week is a relic of the industrial age  What the evidence from global pilots shows about productivity, wellbeing and retention Why organisations moving to a four-day week are also becoming faster AI adopters What it actually takes to make the transition work - and why culture and trust are the real foundations How HR leaders can shift the conversation from top-down mandate to shared, enthusiastic change 

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf. 

The world of work is being rewritten faster than HR systems can keep up. Skills age in months. Roles get redesigned quarter by quarter. CHROs have quietly become AI transformation leads, and the data they need to lead it doesn't exist in any HR system. 

That's why the world's most forward-looking enterprises such as HSBC, AMD, T-Mobile, GSK, ServiceNow, Pfizer, have built on TechWolf.

As the data layer for the AI era of work, TechWolf gives enterprises the skills, they need to move faster and lead with confidence.  Skills Intelligence, Work Intelligence, and Market Intelligence, in one layer. Visit techwolf.ai. 

Resources: Do More In Four by Joe O'Connor and Jared Lindzon

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What’s the value of employee experience if you can’t tie it to business performance results?

In this special bonus episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined Katarina Coppé and Jake Mealy, respectively Senior Partner and Chief Data Solutions Officer at Welliba.  

Drawing on new research analysing over 25 million data points across the S&P 500, they unpack the direct link between employee experience and financial performance, showing why companies with stronger employee sentiment consistently outperform the market. 

Join them to learn more about:  

Why traditional employee listening models are breaking down and what’s replacing them How external data can reveal competitive blind spots in attraction and retention The surprising link between employee experience and shareholder returns Why “fixing the floor” matters more than chasing high engagement scores How HR can bring employee experience into board-level and investor conversationsPractical steps to move from insight to action - faster 

Welliba, winner of the 2024 HR Unleash Global Startup Award, is redefining people, culture and organisational insights.  

Using the latest AI technologies combined with behavioural science, their EXcelerate solution, instantly analyses all available public data, delivering deep insights into people and organisations - without the need for surveys. Discover how you can elevate your talent strategy, transform your workforce, and stay ahead of your competitors.  

Learn more at offer.welliba.com/insight222-2026 

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When your business is transforming, how do you make sure your people strategy is part of leading that change? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Mattijs Mol, VP of HR Technology, Strategy and Insights at Wärtsilä, to explore what it really takes to run a people analytics function inside a business undergoing fundamental change. 

Join them, as they discuss: 

Why transformation creates new demands on people analytics and how to meet themWhat capabilities matter most when bringing workforce data sources togetherHow to make wellbeing land with the business by connecting it directly to performanceHow AI is reshaping the people analytics function and the wider workforceWhere the boundaries should be when AI starts influencing real workforce decisionsWhat the people analytics function could look like in five years 

This episode is sponsored by Visier. 

Visier Workforce AI is your GPS for workforce decisions. Spot attrition risk, uncover pay gaps, measure leadership impact, and track skills shortages before they slow growth. Then act. Align talent to real business outcomes.   

  

Across industries, HR and business leaders are using Visier Workforce AI to navigate the biggest workforce shifts of our time. Move from knowing to doing, faster.  

See it in action at visier.com 

Also, make sure to read to explore Visier’s latest research on strategic workforce planning in the AI era.  

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AI, layoffs, reskilling - everyone’s reacting to the same headlines. The question is: are they making the right decisions because of them? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Kate O’Neill, Tech Humanist, keynote speaker, and author of What Matters Next, to explore how leaders can make more deliberate, context-aware decisions in a landscape shaped by constant change. 

Join them, as they discuss: 

Why reacting to headlines can lead to poor decision-making How to take a more structured, long-term view of change The ultimate approach to prioritising in complex environments What meaningful upskilling looks like in the age of AI Why prompting reflects a deeper shift in how work gets done How to build trust and communicate change more effectively 

This episode is sponsored by Visier. 

Visier Workforce AI is your GPS for workforce decisions. Spot attrition risk, uncover pay gaps, measure leadership impact, and track skills shortages before they slow growth. Then act. Align talent to real business outcomes.   

  

Across industries, HR and business leaders are using Visier Workforce AI to navigate the biggest workforce shifts of our time. Move from knowing to doing, faster.  

See it in action at visier.com 

Also, make sure to read to explore Visier’s latest research on strategic workforce planning in the AI era.

Resources:  

What Matters Next: A Leader's Guide to Making Human-Friendly Tech Decisions 

We can not leave meaning to machine - TED talk  

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What if HR is still thinking too small about AI? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Paul, Chief Evangelist and Talent Strategist at Visier, to explore why traditional transformation approaches may no longer be fit for purpose, and what HR needs to do differently to keep pace. 

Join them, as they tackle some of the biggest questions facing the function today: 

Is the current framing of AI in HR too narrow? Does HR need to operate more like finance to remain relevant? What does it take to move from pilots to real, enterprise-wide impact? And as AI becomes embedded across the business, does people analytics become less visible… or more critical than ever? 

This episode is sponsored by Visier. 

Visier Workforce AI is your GPS for workforce decisions. Spot attrition risk, uncover pay gaps, measure leadership impact, and track skills shortages before they slow growth. Then act. Align talent to real business outcomes.   

  

Across industries, HR and business leaders are using Visier Workforce AI to navigate the biggest workforce shifts of our time. Move from knowing to doing, faster.  

See it in action at visier.com 

Also, make sure to read to explore Visier’s latest research on strategic workforce planning in the AI era.

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What does the next evolution of people analytics actually look like? 

As AI reshapes how organisations operate, people analytics is increasingly being drawn into more consultative, business-facing work - helping leaders think through decisions, guide adoption, and play a more active role in how work actually gets done. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Jamie Nevshehir, VP of HR Operations and People Analytics at NBCUniversal, to explore what that looks like in practice.  

So, hit play to learn more about: 

How to build a people analytics function from scratch and establish credibility earlyWhy strong data foundations still matter more than advanced analyticsHow to introduce a more consultative, business-facing approachThe role of people analytics in guiding and governing AI adoptionWhy dashboards are no longer enough on their ownHow the function is evolving toward influencing decisions

This episode is sponsored by Visier. 

Visier Workforce AI is your GPS for workforce decisions. Spot attrition risk, uncover pay gaps, measure leadership impact, and track skills shortages before they slow growth. Then act. Align talent to real business outcomes.   

  

Across industries, HR and business leaders are using Visier Workforce AI to navigate the biggest workforce shifts of our time. Move from knowing to doing, faster.  

See it in action at visier.com 

Also, make sure to read to explore Visier’s latest research on strategic workforce planning in the AI era.

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Are organisations overlooking one of the most important drivers of employee experience and performance? 

For many, the workplace is still treated as a fixed asset - something to manage for cost and capacity, rather than something to actively design around how work actually happens. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Phil Kirschner, Workforce Experience Consultant and author of the famous newsletter, The Workline, to explore why workplace strategy continues to sit outside of core HR and people analytics conversations - and why that needs to change. 

Drawing on his experience across Credit Suisse, JLL, WeWork, and McKinsey, Phil shares a more practical view of what organisations are missing - from the lack of basic workplace data, to the assumptions that still shape many workplace decisions today. 

So, hit play to learn more about: 

Why workplace strategy is still disconnected from workforce strategyThe key data points organisations should be trackingHow leading organisations are starting to think differently about the purpose of the officeWhat the “Chief Work Officer” role looks like in practiceWhy AI is increasing - not reducing - the importance of workplace and experience design

This episode is sponsored by Visier. 

Visier Workforce AI is your GPS for workforce decisions. Spot attrition risk, uncover pay gaps, measure leadership impact, and track skills shortages before they slow growth. Then act. Align talent to real business outcomes.   

  

Across industries, HR and business leaders are using Visier Workforce AI to navigate the biggest workforce shifts of our time. Move from knowing to doing, faster.  

See it in action at visier.com 

Also, make sure to read to explore Visier’s latest research on strategic workforce planning in the AI era.  

Resources:  

The Workline newsletter

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Are we finally at a point where the way we’ve approached workplace learning no longer works? 

For years, organisations have invested heavily in learning platforms, content libraries and structured programmes. But if we’re honest, much of it still feels disconnected from how people actually learn today - especially in a world where employees can pick up new skills instantly using AI tools. 

So what does effective learning look like now? And how do organisations build an AI-ready workforce without falling back on outdated models? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Chris Eigeland, Founder and CEO of Go1, to explore how workplace learning is evolving - and what HR and L&D leaders need to do differently. 

Drawing on his experience working with L&D practitioners across the globe, Chris shares practical insights on: 

Why traditional approaches to learning are struggling to keep up How AI is changing not just what we learn, but how we learnWhere organisations are making real progress with AI upskilling - and where they’re falling shortWhether technology can finally reduce the compliance burden on HR teamsWhat HR and L&D leaders should prioritise over the next 12–18 months

 

This episode is sponsored by Go1.  

Go1 partners with L&D leaders around the world to turn AI into a workforce advantage, combining trusted learning expertise with an AI toolkit designed for organisational assessment and skills strategy, ready to deploy when teams need it.  

 

"With a learning delivery suite designed to deliver expert-led content through AI functionality, Go1 helps people build the skills to work confidently alongside AI"  

 

Learn more at go1.com/ai-with-go1     

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If parts of a role can be automated or augmented overnight, what does that mean for job design, career development, and the way organisations build the next generation of talent? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and the Founder and creator of the widely followed newsletter I Hate It Here. 

Drawing on her experience building and leading HR teams, Hebba shares how she is approaching AI adoption inside her own organisation and what the rise of AI-powered teams means for the future of work. 

So, tune in to learn: 

Why the traditional job description model may no longer reflect how work actually gets done How AI-powered teams are beginning to reshape HR operating models What the rise of AI means for managers, entry-level talent and early career development How HR leaders can evaluate and prioritise AI investments Where HR teams can begin automating parts of their function Why governance and organisational design must evolve alongside AI adoption 

This episode is sponsored by Hibob. 

HiBob brings HR, Payroll, and Finance together into a single platform that employees actually use. With AI throughout, you move faster, work smarter, and empower your people to power your business.  

Sapient Insights recognizes HiBob’s AI vision, citing the Bob AI Companion for making everyday work faster and easier. Fosway Group also names HiBob a 2025 9-Grid™ Core Leader, recognizing the strongest AI vision among Core Leaders.   

HiBob. All-in-one HCM for HR, Payroll, and Finance.

Learn all about HiBob’s modern HR platform here 

Resources:  

I Hate it Here Newsletter 

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Are we overlooking one of the biggest human consequences of AI at work? 

As organisations race to adopt AI, much of the conversation has focused on productivity, efficiency, and redesigning work. But far less attention has been given to how these technologies may reshape something just as important: the relationships people rely on at work. 

To unpack this, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green speaks with Connie Noonan Hadley, organisational psychologist, Thinkers50 Radar thinker, and Research Associate Professor at Boston University’s Questrom School of Business. 

Connie has spent decades studying the social experience of work, including the growing challenge of loneliness in organisations. And drawing on her latest research and conversations with senior HR leaders, Connie shares insights on how AI is beginning to influence not just how work gets done, but how people connect, collaborate, and seek support at work. 

So, tune in to learn: 

Why loneliness at work remains such a persistent challenge - even in organisations investing heavily in cultureWhat CHROs are prioritising right now as they navigate AI adoption, organisational redesign, and a rapidly shifting external environmentHow employees are already using AI for things they once relied on colleagues for - from career advice to coaching and problem-solvingWhy return-to-office mandates may not solve loneliness in the way many leaders expectPractical ways HR leaders can protect human connection while embracing AI-driven transformation 

This episode is sponsored by Hibob. 

HiBob brings HR, Payroll, and Finance together into a single platform that employees actually use. With AI throughout, you move faster, work smarter, and empower your people to power your business.  

Sapient Insights recognizes HiBob’s AI vision, citing the Bob AI Companion for making everyday work faster and easier. Fosway Group also names HiBob a 2025 9-Grid™ Core Leader, recognizing the strongest AI vision among Core Leaders.   

HiBob. All-in-one HCM for HR, Payroll, and Finance.  

​​​Learn all about HiBob’s modern HR platform here 

Resources:  

We’re Still Lonely at Work 

The Surprising Power of Team Rituals 

Institute for Leadership & Work at Boston University Questrom School of Business 

Institute for Life at Work, research think tank and laboratory

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Have we made the manager’s role more complex without making it easier to make good decisions? 

Over the past decade, expectations on managers have grown significantly. They’re expected to make decisions that are fair, data-informed, and financially responsible - often in real time and under increasing scrutiny. Yet in many organisations, the systems designed to support those decisions haven’t evolved at the same pace.  

So, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green speaks with Kenneth Matos, Director of Market Insights at HiBob, to explore what it takes to design better decision environments for modern organisations. 

Drawing on new global research involving 4,700 people managers, Ken shares why the time spent stitching together data and the lack of a unified HR–Finance view are undermining decision quality - and what leaders must do to enable managers to balance people fairness with financial discipline. 

Tune in to learn more about: 

Why decision friction is emerging as a hidden barrier to organisational agility How fragmented data undermines fairness, consistency, and trust in people decisions What changes when HR and Finance operate from a shared contextWhy defensibility is becoming critical in an era of pay transparency and scrutinyHow AI can reduce decision friction when implemented with the right guardrailsWhy designing better decision environments is becoming a core leadership priority 

 

This episode is sponsored by Hibob. 

HiBob brings HR, Payroll, and Finance together into a single platform that employees actually use. With AI throughout, you move faster, work smarter, and empower your people to power your business.  

Sapient Insights recognises HiBob’s AI vision, citing the Bob AI Companion for making everyday work faster and easier. Fosway Group also names HiBob a 2025 9-Grid™ Core Leader, recognising the strongest AI vision among Core Leaders.   

HiBob. All-in-one HCM for HR, Payroll, and Finance.  

​​Learn all about HiBob’s modern HR platform here

Resources:  

Better Together: Budget-Smart People-Fair How Managers Decide with Data Report 

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Is employee experience due for a reset? 

For much of the past decade, employee experience has been framed as a competitive advantage - a way to attract talent, boost engagement, and strengthen culture. Yet in today’s environment, shaped by economic pressure, evolving workforce expectations, and the rapid rise of AI, many organisations are re-examining whether their approach is still sustainable - or whether, in trying to improve employee experience, they may have inadvertently diluted it. 

So, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green speaks with Jacob Morgan - author, keynote speaker, and Founder of The Future of Work Leaders - to explore what an employee experience reset looks like in 2026 and beyond.  

Drawing on insights from interviews with 100 CHROs, Jacob shares why this moment may mark a turning point for accountability at work, and what leaders must do to balance empathy with performance without undermining either. 

Tune in to learn more about: 

Why 2026 may be a turning point for accountability in employee experience Whether wellbeing programmes have diluted performance expectations How leaders can balance empathy and high performance standards without appearing anti-employee What the evolving power dynamic between employers and employees means in practice How AI is redefining how work is measured, managed, and valued Why HR must lead - not just manage - the responsible and ethical adoption of AI 

 

This episode is sponsored by Hibob. 

HiBob brings HR, Payroll, and Finance together into a single platform that employees actually use. With AI throughout, you move faster, work smarter, and empower your people to power your business.  

Sapient Insights recognises HiBob’s AI vision, citing the Bob AI Companion for making everyday work faster and easier. Fosway Group also names HiBob a 2025 9-Grid™ Core Leader, recognising the strongest AI vision among Core Leaders.   

HiBob. All-in-one HCM for HR, Payroll, and Finance.  

​​​Learn all about HiBob’s modern HR platform here 

Resources:  

The Eight Laws of Employee Experience 

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What can HR learn from private equity, where talent, culture, and leadership are part of the deal thesis from day one? 

In many organisations, the connection between people strategy and business outcomes is still taking shape. In private equity, however, that connection is immediate and unmistakable, with leadership quality, organisational design, workforce capability, and culture being central to the value-creation plan, with clear timelines, defined expectations, and measurable results. 

So, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green speaks with Angela Geffre, Head of Human Capital at GrowthCurve Capital, to discuss what this looks like on the ground.  

Together, they explore what it really means to run HR in a private equity environment, and what the broader HR profession can learn from it. So tune in, and learn more about:  

The key people questions to ask when assessing a new portfolio companyHow HR contributes to value creation during a 3–5 year investment horizonWhat truly drives performance and retention across industries and organisation sizesHow HR must adapt when moving from large enterprises to fast-moving portfolio businessesHow AI is reshaping products, operating models, and early-career pathwaysWhy HR must lead the responsible and ethical adoption of AI, not just manage its impact 

 

This episode is sponsored by HiBob. 

HiBob brings HR, Payroll, and Finance together into a single platform that employees actually use. With AI throughout, you move faster, work smarter, and empower your people to power your business.  

Sapient Insights recognises HiBob’s AI vision, citing the Bob AI Companion for making everyday work faster and easier. Fosway Group also names HiBob a 2025 9-Grid™ Core Leader, recognising the strongest AI vision among Core Leaders.   

HiBob. All-in-one HCM for HR, Payroll, and Finance.  

​​​Learn all about HiBob’s modern HR platform here

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Most organisations say Strategic Workforce Planning is a priority. Far fewer are prepared for what that actually requires. 

Because the challenge isn’t just predicting how many people you’ll need. It’s understanding how work itself is changing, how skills are shifting beneath stable job titles, and how today’s hiring, reskilling, and entry-level decisions are quietly shaping capability and leadership risk years into the future. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Vincent Barat, Founder and CEO of Albert, to explore whether organisations are thinking about Strategic Workforce Planning at the right level - and what it really means to make workforce planning truly strategic in today’s environment. 

Drawing on Vincent’s experience working at the intersection of business strategy, skills, and workforce dynamics, this conversation explores: 

Why SWP is shifting from a planning exercise to a capability and risk discipline What truly puts the “strategic” in Strategic Workforce Planning beyond headcount and budgeting Where organisations most often struggle when trying to move from SWP theory to execution How AI is reshaping skills and tasks beneath job titles, and the implications for reskilling and redeployment Why reduced entry-level hiring today could create leadership and succession challenges tomorrow The practical priorities HR and people analytics leaders should focus on right now 

 

This episode is sponsored by Albert.  

Albert is your strategic workforce planning co-pilot, built for global HR leaders who are done with Excel, chaos, and finance-led headcount cuts.  

Albert helps you decode complex people data, anticipate change, and make confident, cost-saving decisions on skills and hiring without hiring a single analyst.  

Discover how to handle the people side of your long-range plan with zero guesswork at albertapp.com/davidgreen 

 

Links to resources: 

The SWP Cookbook 

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People analytics has spent years building credibility through data. Now the pressure is different. Business leaders aren’t just asking for insight - they’re expecting direction. Where should we invest? What should we stop doing? What risks are we not seeing yet? 

But many teams still find themselves pulled back into reporting cycles, ad-hoc requests, and an overemphasis on metrics that don’t always lead to better decisions. 

So what shifts when people analytics starts operating more like a product and less like a project function? 

In this episode, David Green is joined by Ashar Khan, Head of People Insights and Solution Design at Autodesk, to explore how the function evolves from delivering data to shaping choices at scale. 

Join this conversation as they discuss: 

The skills and mindsets modern people analytics teams need beyond technical expertiseWhat an effective people analytics operating model looks like in practice The core capabilities required to bridge HR technology and HR strategy Where “metric fixation” leads organisations toward false confidence and poor decisions Why the assumption that AI automatically means “fewer people” misses the bigger picture Practical advice for CHROs building or redesigning a people analytics function today 

This episode is sponsored by Worklytics. 

How productive is your organisation, really? Worklytics makes it clear - with privacy-first insights from everyday work data. See how meeting volume, manager effectiveness, collaboration health, and AI adoption are impacting your team’s focus, efficiency, and outcomes - so you can make smarter decisions, faster. 

No surveys. No assumptions. Just clear insight into work. Right now, Worklytics is offering podcast listeners a free 30-day trial of their productivity analytics dashboard. 

Learn more at worklytics.co/productivity 

Link to resources: 

The Strategic Workforce Planning Handbook  David Edwards’ Dark Artistry Newsletter 

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AI is changing tasks. Skills strategies are evolving. And yet visibility into capability, cost, and risk across the workforce often remains fragmented. 

So how do organisations move from reacting to workforce change, to planning for it in a way that actually shapes business outcomes? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by David Edwards, strategic workforce planning practitioner, advisor, and author of The Strategic Workforce Planning Handbook, to explore what it really takes to make strategic workforce planning work in practice. 

Join this conversation as they discuss: 

Why workforce planning can feel “deceptively threatening” inside an organisation  What changes when leaders shift from thinking about headcount to thinking about capability, capacity, cost, and risk over time  What goes wrong when people analytics and workforce planning operate in parallel Why looking beyond permanent employees reveals hidden workforce risk How AI is forcing organisations to rethink work design, not just skills strategies The stakeholders' strategic workforce planning really needs 

This episode is sponsored by Worklytics. 

How productive is your organisation, really? Worklytics makes it clear - with privacy-first insights from everyday work data. See how meeting volume, manager effectiveness, collaboration health, and AI adoption are impacting your team’s focus, efficiency, and outcomes - so you can make smarter decisions, faster. 

No surveys. No assumptions. Just clear insight into work. Right now, Worklytics is offering podcast listeners a free 30-day trial of their productivity analytics dashboard. 

Learn more at worklytics.co/productivity . 

Link to resources: 

The Strategic Workforce Planning Handbook  David Edwards’ Dark Artistry Newsletter 

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AI was supposed to make work more efficient. So why are people busier than ever? 

As organisations move into 2026, many leaders are realising that while technology has changed quickly, the fundamentals of how work gets done haven’t kept up. Activity is increasing, output is accelerating in places - yet coordination, focus, and decision-making often feel harder than before. 

So what’s actually going on? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Philip Arkcoll, Founder and CEO of Worklytics, to unpack this very question.  

Join this dynamic duo, as they discuss: 

What the data reveals around where organisations were getting stuck in 2025, and how the way we work is changing in 2026 What collaboration and activity data reveals that traditional HR metrics often miss Why decision-making, not output, is becoming the primary bottleneck in AI-enabled organisations How increasing spans of control are reshaping the role, and load, of managers The emerging divide between teams and individuals who are benefiting from AI and those who aren’t What HR and people analytics leaders can do to measure, diagnose, and redesign how work actually happens 

This episode is sponsored by Worklytics. 

Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity and AI adoption.  

By analysing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work = 

Learn more at worklytics.co/ai  

Link to resources: 

5 Ways Work Will Change in 2026 

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Why are so many HR leaders experiencing “what just happened?” moments at work - and what does it really take to respond to authoritarian leadership with courage instead of fear? 

That’s the question Kristen Kavanaugh, Leadership Strategist, former Head of DEI and Talent Management at Tesla, explores in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast. 

In this episode, host David Green sits down with Kristen to unpack what happens when fear quietly becomes the operating system inside organisations, why authoritarian leadership styles are becoming increasingly normalised, and how HR leaders can reclaim their agency in environments shaped by power, pressure, and public leadership behaviour. 

Tune in and learn: 

Why fear-based leadership creates short-term gains but long-term damage Why HR leaders often underestimate the agency they actually have How Kristen’s Agency Loop framework helps leaders navigate tension, misalignment, and difficult decisions What courageous leadership looks like as AI reshapes roles, skills, and power at work Why HR has a once-in-a-generation opportunity to shape a more humane future of work This episode is sponsored by Worklytics. 

Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity and AI adoption.  

By analysing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work = 

Learn more at worklytics.co/ai  

Link to resources: 

Courage over Fear: Harness the Power of Agency to Lead in Uncertain Times 

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Why do organisations keep repeating the same mistakes when it comes to hybrid work - and are they now doing the same with AI? 

That’s the question Brian Elliott, one of the most respected voices on the future of work, explores in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast. 

In this episode, host David Green sits down with Brian to unpack why the hybrid and return-to-office debate continues to create tension between leaders and employees, despite years of data and experience, and the striking parallels between how organisations handled hybrid work and how many are now approaching AI adoption. 

Tune in and learn: 

Why the hybrid and return-to-office debate continues to divide leaders and employees What the evidence says about making hybrid work effective for both people and the business The similarities between hybrid work decisions and today’s AI adoption challenges How AI is changing entry-level roles and long-term talent pipelines The biggest barriers organisations face when trying to change long-established ways of working Why leadership behaviour ultimately determines whether change sticks 

This episode is sponsored by Worklytics. 

Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity and AI adoption.  

By analysing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work = 

Learn more at worklytics.co/ai  

Link to resources: 

Five leadership lessons for "tough" CEOs The burnout age The job market and AI 

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As we begin a new year, it’s natural to reflect on what’s changed - and what’s quietly no longer fit for purpose. 

AI investment is accelerating at pace, and autonomous and semi-autonomous agents are moving from experimentation to everyday work. And yet, many organisations are still operating with leadership models, workforce structures, and planning assumptions designed for a world where humans were the only actors in the system. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Sandra Durth, Partner at McKinsey & Company, to explore what happens when work is no longer just human-to-human, but human-to-agent - and what that means for the future of organisations. 

Drawing on McKinsey’s latest research, Sandra shares her perspective on: 

How AI-human symbiosis is reshaping the very definition of work Why traditional hierarchies and leadership models are starting to break down What “agentic leadership” really looks like in practice  The implications for performance, management capability, and strategic workforce planning The biggest opportunities - and the biggest risks - HR leaders need to be paying attention to right now 

Links to research: 

The agentic organization: Contours of the next paradigm for the AI era 

Six shifts to build the agentic organization of the future 

Rethink management and talent for agentic AI 

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Can AI fuel a people-first transformation at global scale? At UPS, the answer is a resounding yes. 

While many companies view AI through the lens of automation and efficiency, UPS is taking a radically different approach: treating AI as an enabler of human growth, not a replacement for it. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Danelle McCusker, Senior Vice President and Global Head of Talent, Learning and Culture at UPS, to explore how the company is redefining what workforce transformation looks like in the age of AI. 

With over half a million employees and a deeply rooted culture of promotion from within, UPS faces a unique challenge: how to prepare its people for a future defined by emerging technologies - while preserving trust, purpose, and opportunity. 

Join them as Danelle and David explore: 

Why UPS is designing AI implementations to relieve frontline burdens and elevate the value of human work - not eliminate it. How a pilot with Valence’s AI coach Nadia is creating access to consistent, personalised development for employees well beyond the executive tier. The role of psychological safety and experimentation in successful AI adoption How HR and technology teams are partnering to drive cultural and capability transformation What other HR leaders can learn from UPS’s intentional, business-first approach to AI 

Whether you're in the early stages of your AI journey or looking for practical ways to align tech with talent strategy, this conversation offers both inspiration and actionable insights from the front lines of change. 

This episode is sponsored by Valence. 

Imagine if every employee had a world-class coach in their pocket. That’s exactly what Valence has created with Nadia - the AI-powered coach helping Fortune 500 companies scale development, boost performance, and support leaders at every level.  

 

Learn more atvalence.co/insight222 

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Performance expectations are rising - but the systems designed to support people haven’t kept up. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders Podcast, host David Green is joined by Parker Mitchell, CEO and Founder of Valence, to explore how AI is transforming the way organisations think about performance.  

Tune is as they explore:  

Why traditional performance management still feels broken How AI coaching can support real-time performance improvement at scale How trust, context, and timing make the difference in effective AI tools What changes when every employee has access to a personal coach  The signals that show AI coaching is driving real performance impact How HR leaders can start small - but smart - when exploring AI coaching 

This episode is sponsored by Valence. 

Imagine if every employee had a world-class coach in their pocket. That’s exactly what Valence has created with Nadia - the AI-powered coach helping Fortune 500 companies scale development, boost performance, and support leaders at every level.  

 

Learn more atvalence.co/insight222 

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In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, Katarina Berg - CHRO at On, former CHRO at Spotify, and author of Bold: A New Era of Strategic HR - joins David Green to explore what modern, strategic HR leadership truly requires.

 

Together, they dive into the evolving partnership between the CHRO and CEO - a relationship that has never been more critical as organisations navigate AI, workforce transformation, culture, and business growth. Katarina shares how HR leaders can bring both insight and humanity to the executive table, shape decisions that drive business outcomes, and intentionally design a culture that empowers people to perform.

 

The conversation covers:

What a genuinely strategic CHRO-CEO relationship looks like - and how to build itHow Katarina approached her first 100 days as CHRO at On, and the lessons she’s bringing into the next phase of growthWhy “putting the H back in HR” is essential in the AI eraHow people analytics teams can evolve into true insight and decision-driving partnersWhy intentional leadership - not just tools or trends - will define the next era of HR

 

This is a must-listen for HR leaders who want to elevate their strategic influence and lead with courage, clarity, and humanity.

 

This episode is sponsored by Valence.

Imagine if every employee had a world-class coach in their pocket. That’s exactly what Valence has created with Nadia - the AI-powered coach helping Fortune 500 companies scale development, boost performance, and support leaders at every level. Learn more atvalence.co/insight222

 

Links referenced in the conversation:

Bold: A New Era of Strategic HR

2025 HR Predictions: Looking Into the Crystal Ball

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Why do some teams click while others struggle, despite having top talent? 

That’s exactly what our host David Green explores in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, with guest Dr. Colin Fisher - PhD Programme Director at UCL School of Management and author of The Collective Edge. 

With a background in organisational behaviour, Colin brings a fresh lens to one of the most critical - and misunderstood - aspects of modern work: how teams are structured, and how that structure shapes everything from communication to creativity to performance. 

Join them and learn more about: 

Why the seeds of team success - or failure - are planted before Day One The 60-30-10 rule for high-performing teams (and why most leaders focus on the wrong 10%) How to design work that kills free-riding and boosts engagement Why psychological safety is a non-negotiable - and how to build it fast How AI and team design intersect, and what leaders need to do right now 

This episode is sponsored by Valence. 

Imagine if every employee had a world-class coach in their pocket. That’s exactly what Valence has created with Nadia - the AI-powered coach helping Fortune 500 companies scale development, boost performance, and support leaders at every level. Learn more atvalence.co/insight222

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“Be yourself.” “Bring your whole self to work.” It sounds empowering -  but what if it’s actually bad advice? 

That’s exactly what our host David Green explores in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, with returning guest Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic - Professor of Business Psychology at UCL and Columbia, and author of Don’t Be Yourself: Why Authenticity is Overrated (and What to Do Instead). 

Together, they challenge popular leadership tropes and explore why being real doesn’t always lead to being effective - especially in today’s fast-changing, AI-driven world. So, join them as they explore: 

 

Why authenticity is misunderstood, and when it becomes a liability The leadership traits that actually build trust and influence How AI is transforming the employee experience The risks of eliminating early-career jobs in pursuit of productivity What inclusion really requires beyond buzzwords and optics The three ingredients every AI strategy needs to succeed 

This episode is sponsored by Valence. 

Imagine if every employee had a world-class coach in their pocket. That’s exactly what Valence has created with Nadia - the AI-powered coach helping Fortune 500 companies scale development, boost performance, and support leaders at every level. Learn more atvalence.co/insight222 

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The HR technology market is booming - but with so much innovation (and noise), how can HR leaders and investors tell what’s truly transformative from what’s just trendy? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders Podcast, host David Green sits down with Thomas Otter, General Partner and Venture Capitalist at Acadian Ventures - a firm dedicated to investing in groundbreaking companies that make work better. 

With decades of experience spanning SAP, Gartner, and now venture capital, Thomas brings a rare 360-degree view of the HR tech ecosystem - from building and leading product teams to backing the next generation of innovators. 

Together, David and Thomas explore: 

Whether HR tech is going through a true transformation or simply evolving Where AI is actually making a difference,  and where the hype is getting ahead of reality Why AI adoption remains slow for many organisations, and what leaders can do about it The traits and technologies that make HR tech startups stand out to investors The trends and breakthroughs shaping the next five years of HR technology and the future of work 

If you’re an HR or people analytics leader, tech founder, or investor looking to cut through the noise and understand where HR tech is really headed, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss. 

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf. 

TechWolf helps enterprises get fast, accurate, and actionable skills data—without surveys. From identifying the skills your workforce has to mapping what they need, TechWolf’s AI integrates seamlessly with your existing systems to turn messy data into strategic advantage. 

 

 Learn more at techwolf.com  

 

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The future of work won’t wait - and neither can your people analytics strategy. 

On today’s episode of the Digital HR Leaders Podcast, Rob Etheridge, Global Head of Workforce Strategy and Insights at HSBC, joins the Digital HR Leaders podcast with host David Green to reveal how the bank is building a forward-looking people analytics function - grounded in skills, AI, and trust. 

Join them, as they explore: 

The evolution of people analytics at HSBC and across the industry How to design and scale an operating model that delivers business value Why skills are a strategic priority - and how HSBC is addressing them Building governance frameworks for AI in people analytics The leadership behaviours that embed analytics into decision-making 

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf. 

TechWolf helps enterprises get fast, accurate, and actionable skills data—without surveys. From identifying the skills your workforce has to mapping what they need, TechWolf’s AI integrates seamlessly with your existing systems to turn messy data into strategic advantage. 

 

 Learn more at techwolf.com  

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In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders Podcast, host David Green is joined once again by Mikael Wornoo, Co-Founder of TechWolf - a company at the forefront of skills intelligence. 

Bringing fresh insights from the frontlines of AI and workforce strategy, together they explore where leading companies are heading, and what HR needs to do to stay ahead of the curve. From adoption challenges to ethical concerns, in this episode, you can expect to learn more about:  

How the conversation around AI and skills is shifting—and what’s driving the change Why skills-based workforce planning is becoming a business-critical priority The human side of AI: navigating adoption, mindset shifts, and ethical concerns The data and insights HR needs to lead meaningful transformation How to build a fair, skills-powered future—and avoid a “winner-takes-all” dynamic 

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf. 

TechWolf helps enterprises get fast, accurate, and actionable skills data—without surveys. From identifying the skills your workforce has to mapping what they need, TechWolf’s AI integrates seamlessly with your existing systems to turn messy data into strategic advantage. 

 

 Learn more at techwolf.com  

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What if the most valuable business strategy starts with workforce planning?

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by one of the world’s most respected voices on strategic workforce planning, Ross Sparkman, former Head of Workforce Planning

at Meta, LinkedIn, Nike & author of the recently released second edition of Strategic Workforce Planning.

With a career leading workforce strategy at companies like Meta, GE, Nike, and Walmart, Ross brings rare insight into how to turn workforce planning into a true lever of transformation. Join their conversation as they explore:

Why traditional workforce planning is no longer fit for today’s pace of change

How to integrate AI into workforce planning without falling for the hype

What it really takes to make workforce planning stick inside large organisations

The critical partnership between people analytics and SWP for future-ready strategies

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf.

TechWolf helps enterprises get fast, accurate, and actionable skills data—without surveys. From identifying the skills your workforce has to mapping what they need, TechWolf’s AI integrates seamlessly with your existing systems to turn messy data into strategic advantage.

Learn more at techwolf.com

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What if the reason HR isn’t influencing strategy… is because it’s looking in the wrong direction? 

That’s the powerful idea Jenny Dearborn - Chief People Strategy Officer at BTS and co-author of The Insight-Driven Leader - unpacks with host David Green in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast. 

Drawing on her experience as a senior HR leader in some of the world’s biggest companies, Jenny makes the case for a bold shift: from reactive, rear-view reporting to forward-looking, insight-driven action. 

Join them, as they explore: 

Why “data-driven” HR often falls short, and what insight-driven really means 

The risks of relying on outdated metrics that don’t influence business decisions 

What CEOs should be demanding from HR leaders 

How top organisations are transforming HR into a strategic, insight-generating function 

What it looks like when HR operates like a product organisation 

How CHROs can build trusted partnerships with CFOs and CIOs 

If you’re ready to unlock the true strategic potential of your HR function, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss.

 

This episode is sponsored by TechWolf. 

TechWolf helps enterprises get fast, accurate, and actionable skills data—without surveys. From identifying the skills your workforce has, to mapping what they need, TechWolf’s AI integrates seamlessly with your existing systems to turn messy data into strategic advantage. 

 

 Learn more at techwolf.com  

 

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How do you reconnect learning with business outcomes in a world where skills are evolving faster than ever? 

That’s what Vincent-Pierre Giroux, Global Learning & Talent Development Director at Alstom, explores in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast. 

Host David Green speaks with Vincent-Pierre about the lessons he’s learned from leading resets across industries, his perspective on why skills volatility is reshaping mobility and retention, and the leadership qualities that matter most in today’s environment of constant change. 

In this episode, you’ll learn: 

Why reconnecting learning with business outcomes is key to driving real impact 

How skills volatility is transforming mobility, engagement, and retention 

What leadership qualities are most critical in a world shaped by disruption 

How to think about ROI in learning and skills, and measure it meaningfully 

Practical advice for HR and people analytics leaders to keep their organisations future-ready 

This episode is sponsored by 365Talents. 

365Talents takes a flexible, tailored approach to skills and talent management—because no two businesses are the same. Their adaptive talent intelligence solutions empower HR teams to move faster, build skills-based strategies, and deliver real impact at scale. Want to learn more? Visitwww.365talents.com  

And don't forget to explore the latest thinking on skills and job architecture in this in-depth playbook:The Skills and Job Architecture Playbook  

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What if the star performers you celebrated yesterday are the very people holding your organisation back today? 

That’s what Toby Hough, HR Director for Europe at HiBob, unpacks with host David Green in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast - a must-listen for anyone rethinking how to build performance cultures that last. 

Join them, as they explore: 

Why definitions of high performance need to evolve as businesses grow 

Why traditional change management is no longer fit for purpose - and what should replace it 

How to build mental health and employee wellbeing into the foundation of performance 

What career paths and leadership may look like when people are managing both humans and AI systems 

Whether you’re scaling a business, supporting leaders through change, or preparing for the impact of AI on performance and careers, this episode is worth a listen.  

This episode is sponsored by HiBob. 

HiBob is the all-in-one HCM platform built for HR leaders who need connected data, flexible workflows, and a user experience people actually want to use. 

Learn more by visiting hibob.com/davidgreen2025.  

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What defines leadership in a modern organisation? And how do you find and support the people driving culture, clarity, and change?  

That’s what Olena Bondareva, Global HR Director at airSlate, unpacks in this episode of Digital HR Leaders – a must-listen for anyone rethinking how we define and measure leadership. 

Host David Green speaks with Olena about how she built a people strategy from scratch during a time of extraordinary uncertainty - navigating the pandemic, the war in Ukraine, and rapid global scale. 

Olena shares how she prioritized the right systems, embedded people analytics into decision-making, and uncovered the hidden influencers shaping culture and performance. 

In this episode, you’ll learn: 

How to identify the informal influencers shaping culture and driving change 

What truly defines leadership effectiveness in a fast-scaling business 

Why data literacy and human fluency are the twin skills HR leaders must master 

How airSlate is using AI to enhance performance, hiring, and employee support 

Whether you’re scaling a people function or rethinking leadership development, this episode will challenge assumptions – and leave you with actionable insights. 

This episode is sponsored by HiBob. 

HiBob is the all-in-one HCM platform built for HR leaders who need connected data, flexible workflows, and a user experience people actually want to use. 

Learn more by visiting hibob.com/davidgreen2025.  

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Last week, Microsoft announced an update to its flexible work guidelines.  As Amy Coleman, Chief People Officer at Microsoft, explained: “We’ve looked at how our teams work best, and the data is clear: when people work together in person more often, they thrive – they are more energized, empowered, and they deliver stronger results.” 

  

As such, I’m delighted that my guest on this week’s episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast is Dawn Klinghoffer, Global Head of People Analytics at Microsoft. As she explains in our conversation, Dawn and her team conducted the analysis that informed this decision - revealing a causal link between office presence and employee thriving. 

  

In our conversation, Dawn and I discuss: 

What the data shows about the ideal balance between office presence and flexibility 

Why "moments that matter" are key to in-person collaboration and connection 

How Microsoft's people analytics team is evolving its composition and strategy in the age of AI 

The impact of deep vs. broad AI adoption on employee thriving 

How AI is transforming employee listening, from sentiment analysis to real-time feedback loops 

The creation of Microsoft’s new Analytics Innovation team—and what it signals about the future of HR 

This episode is packed with data-backed insights, practical examples, and a forward-looking perspective on how HR can lead through complexity and change. 

This episode is sponsored by HiBob. 

HiBob is the all-in-one HCM platform built for HR leaders who need connected data, flexible workflows, and a user experience people actually want to use. 

Learn more by visiting hibob.com/davidgreen2025.  

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HR is standing at a defining inflection point. AI is transforming how work gets done, stakeholder capitalism is reshaping expectations, and the pressure to deliver tangible business value with less has never been higher. 

So what does HR need to do now - not just to stay relevant, but to lead? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with three of the profession’s most respected thinkers to discuss this very topic: Dave Ulrich, Co-Founder of the RBL Group; Dick Beatty, Professor at Rutgers and the University of Michigan; and Patrick Wright, Chair in Strategic HR at the University of South Carolina. 

In their conversation, you’ll learn: 

Why HR is at a historic inflection point, and what makes this moment different 

How AI is forcing a rethink of jobs, value creation, and organisational design 

What it really means to move from HR activity to business impact 

How HR can better serve external stakeholders like customers, investors, and communities 

Why CHROs must lead from the outside in - or risk being left behind 

How a new leadership development initiative, the Global HR Leadership Experience, is preparing future-ready HR leaders 

If you’re rethinking the role of HR in your organisation, navigating transformation, or preparing your team for what’s next, this is a must-listen conversation packed with wisdom, challenge, and practical insight. 

This episode is sponsored by HiBob. 

HiBob is the all-in-one HCM platform built for HR leaders who need connected data, flexible workflows, and a user experience people actually want to use. 

Learn more by visiting hibob.com/davidgreen2025.  

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bp is undergoing one of the most complex transformations in its more than 100-year history — powered by a focused strategy reset, a leaner operating model, and a global scale-up of digital and AI capabilities. But behind all of this is a fundamental reset of how people experience work - and what it means to lead through change.

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with the person leading this transformation, Kerry Dryburgh, Executive Vice President for People, Culture and Communications at bp. 

In their conversation, you’ll learn: 

How bp is using AI and automation to simplify work and unlock capacity 

 

Why performance culture is being redefined to balance accountability and development 

What skills and mindsets are essential for the future of work 

How to keep people engaged and supported through uncertainty and change 

And why HR has a critical role to play in shaping transformation 

If you’re leading transformation, scaling HR innovation, or simply curious about what the future of HR looks like at enterprise scale, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss. 

This episode is sponsored by HiBob. 

HiBob is the all-in-one HCM platform built for HR leaders who need connected data, flexible workflows, and a user experience people actually want to use. 

Learn more by visiting hibob.com/davidgreen2025.  

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The future of HR isn’t about collecting more data - it’s about knowing exactly what to do with it. 

In this special bonus episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by David Barrett (CEO) and Katarina Coppé (Chief Commercial Officer) from Welliba for a conversation about changing the way we listen to and understand employees. 

Join them to learn more about:  

Why traditional surveys are no longer enough to understand your workforce 

How passive listening and AI can surface richer, faster, and more actionable insights 

Practical ways to connect employee data to business outcomes at scale 

Strategies to navigate data privacy and regulatory challenges without slowing innovation 

Real-world examples from industries including retail, finance, healthcare, and manufacturing 

If you want to understand your employees more deeply, act faster on insights and deliver measurable impact, this episode, sponsored by Welliba, is your playbook for the future of HR. 

Welliba, winner of the 2024 HR Unleash Global Startup Award, is redefining people, culture and organisational insights.  

Using the latest AI technologies combined with behavioural science, their EXcelerate solution, instantly analyses all available public data, delivering deep insights into people and organisations - without the need for surveys. Discover how you can elevate your talent strategy, transform your workforce, and stay ahead of your competitors.  

Learn more at offer.welliba.com/insight222  

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What can your digital footprint reveal about how work really gets done? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green sits down with Brydie Lear, VP of People Analytics & Insights at Expedia Group, to explore how her team is harnessing people data at scale to understand performance, influence, and organisational effectiveness in real time. 

Tune in as they discuss: 

The key differences in how industries approach people analytics Why influence, not just insight, is the real game-changer in people analytics How Expedia uses digital signals and ONA to track how work flows The art of prioritising what really matters in a sea of data 

This episode, sponsored by Worklytics,  is packed with lessons for anyone building, leading, or rethinking people analytics in a digital-first world. 

Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity, and AI adoption. 

By analysing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work smarter, not harder. 

And here’s something special: Worklytics is offering Digital HR Leaders listeners a complimentary AI adoption assessment to understand how your teams are really using AI - and where untapped potential lies. But don’t wait - spots are limited. 

Learn more atworklytics.co/ai 

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If people really are our greatest asset, why is wellbeing still treated like a perk instead of a priority? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green explores this very question with Jan-Emmanuel De Neve, Professor of Economics and Director of the Wellbeing Research Centre at University of Oxford, co-editor of the World Happiness Report, and co-author of Why Workplace Wellbeing Matters. 

Tune in as Jan shares eye-opening insights from a massive global dataset of over 25 million workers, revealing why employee wellbeing is a business-critical priority. 

You’ll hear: 

The real drivers of happiness at work (and why most companies get it wrong) 

How employee wellbeing directly impacts performance, retention and recruitment 

The role of AI in shaping the future of meaningful, human-centered work 

This is a must-listen for HR and business leaders ready to shift from wellbeing-as-an-initiative to wellbeing-as-a-strategy. 

This episode is sponsored by Mercer. 

To thrive in an AI-augmented world, organisations must rethink how work gets done. Mercer’s Work Design solution uses AI to deconstruct jobs, redeploy tasks, and redesign work for greater agility, productivity, and impact. 

Unlock your team’s full potential. Learn more atmercer.com/wfdemo 

Links to resources:  

World Happiness Report 

Why Workplace Wellbeing Matters 

 

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If you're looking for honest lessons from the frontline of skills transformation, this episode is for you. 

Picking up from last week’s strategic deep-dive with Ravin Jesuthasan and Brian Fisher at Mercer, this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast takes a practical turn, exploring what it really looks like to bring a skills-powered strategy to life inside a global organisation. 

Joining host David Green is Amy Baxendale, Global Future of Workforce Director at Arcadis, who has spent the past three years leading a bold transformation to embed skills-based thinking across the company. 

From reimagining workforce planning to enabling talent mobility and cultural change, Amy shares a rare, unfiltered view into the challenges and breakthroughs that define real progress. 

What you’ll learn in this episode: 

What triggered Arcadis' shift to a skills-first model, and how they got started 

How to navigate early implementation hurdles and complex change dynamics 

Approaches to gaining executive buy-in and aligning with business strategy 

Why governance and structure are key to sustainable transformation 

Ways to track progress - beyond ROI - to include engagement and agility 

Unexpected lessons and eye-opening moments from the journey 

What the future holds as skill demands continue to evolve rapidly 

Whether you’re planning, piloting, or scaling a skills-based approach, this episode is packed with insight, inspiration, and grounded advice from someone who’s done the work. 

This episode is sponsored by Mercer. 

To thrive in an AI-augmented world, organisations must rethink how work gets done. Mercer’s Work Design solution uses AI to deconstruct jobs, redeploy tasks, and redesign work for greater agility, productivity, and impact. 

Unlock your team’s full potential. Learn more atmercer.com/wfdemo 

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Is your workforce strategy stuck in the past? 

As AI accelerates and traditional job structures show their age, more companies are asking a fundamental question: Are we organising work the right way? Which is why, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David and his guests explore why skills-based workforce planning has surged to the top of the HR agenda - and what leading companies are doing to turn intent into action. 

Joining David are Ravin Jesuthasan, Senior Partner and Global Leader for Transformation Services at Mercer, and co-author of The Skills-Powered Organization,and Brian Fisher, Global Solutions Lead for Skills, Jobs and Careers at Mercer, and co-author of Mercer’s Skills Snapshot Survey. 

What you’ll learn in this episode: 

Why jobs are no longer the ideal unit for workforce planning, and why skills are taking centre stage 

How to align mindset, skillset and toolset to drive lasting transformation 

The role of pilots and internal marketplaces in delivering measurable business impact 

What AI is changing about the definition, demand and shelf life of skills 

The three core capabilities every organisation must build to sustain a skills-powered strategy 

How leading companies are connecting skills to ROI, workforce agility, and employee growth 

This episode is sponsored by Mercer. 

To thrive in an AI-augmented world, organisations must rethink how work gets done. Mercer’s Work Design solution uses AI to deconstruct jobs, redeploy tasks, and redesign work for greater agility, productivity, and impact. 

Unlock your team’s full potential. Learn more atmercer.com/wfdemo 

Links to resources discussed in the episode: 

Work Without Jobs The Skills-Powered Organisation The Global Skills Technology and Adoption Survey Report  The 2024/2025 Skills Snapshot Survey report  

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What if the chaos around us isn’t a threat, but your organisation’s greatest advantage? 

In this thought-provoking episode, futurist and innovation expert Peter Hinssen returns to the Digital HR Leaders podcast to join host David Green in an exploration of why uncertainty is no longer the exception but the new normal, and how HR can lead the way in turning disruption into momentum. 

Based on insights from his new book The Uncertainty Principle, Peter challenges traditional thinking and shares a bold vision for how organisations - and their people leaders - can thrive in the “never-normal.” 

What you’ll learn in this episode: 

Why uncertainty is the new strategic advantage, and how to “weaponise” it 

The biggest myth HR believes about change, and why it’s holding us back 

AI’s promise vs. reality and why early adoption often falls short 

How to unlock HR’s most underutilised asset: unstructured data 

Real-world phoenixes  - organisations rising stronger through disruption 

The new HR mindset and how it’s redefining talent, leadership, and foresight 

Link to purchase Peter's book on The Uncertainty Principle 

This episode is sponsored by Mercer. 

To thrive in an AI-augmented world, organisations must rethink how work gets done. Mercer’s Work Design solution uses AI to deconstruct jobs, redeploy tasks, and redesign work for greater agility, productivity, and impact. 

Unlock your team’s full potential. Learn more atmercer.com/wfdemo. 

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What does it take to move people analytics from the margins to the core of business strategy? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Anshul Sheopuri, Executive Vice President of People Operations & Insights at Mastercard, to explore how people analytics is transforming from a support function into a business-critical capability. 

More than three years since his last appearance on the show, Anshul returns with a new role, a broader remit, and fresh insights into what it takes to embed analytics into enterprise-wide decision-making at scale. 

What you’ll discover in this episode: 

How the role of the people analytics leader is evolving into a portfolio leadership model 

The key catalysts behind the shift from traditional HR metrics to integrated, business-first insights 

How Mastercard is leveraging AI to drive employee success and business transformation 

A comparative look at building analytics and AI capabilities at IBM vs. Mastercard 

The importance of governance, ethics, and responsible AI in people analytics 

Practical steps to scale analytics and embed it into enterprise decision-making 

The future of people analytics—and what leaders need to prepare for next 

If you’re looking to understand how people analytics can become a true strategic partner across your organisation, this conversation offers a practical and inspiring roadmap. 

This episode is sponsored by Mercer. 

To thrive in an AI-augmented world, organisations must rethink how work gets done. Mercer’s Work Design solution uses AI to deconstruct jobs, redeploy tasks, and redesign work for greater agility, productivity, and impact. 

Unlock your team’s full potential. Learn more atmercer.com/wfdemo. 

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What happens when you stop looking outside for talent and start unlocking the full potential of the people already on your team? 

That is exactly what host David Green and his guests explore in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders Podcast. 

Joining David are Patricia Frost, Chief People and Places Officer at Seagate Technology, and Ruslan Tovbulatov, Chief Marketing Officer at Gloat, the platform partner behind Seagate’s internal talent marketplace, TalentLink. And together, they share how Seagate reimagined its approach to workforce planning by pausing external hiring and focusing on the talent already in-house. 

In this conversation, expect to hear how Seagate: 

Shifted from external recruitment to unlocking internal potential 

Created transparency and trust to support employee-driven growth 

Integrated AI to enhance - not replace - the human workforce 

Rebranded their platform to reflect a purpose-led, people-first strategy 

Helped employees navigate the emotional side of change and adoption 

This episode, sponsored by Gloat, is a practical, inspiring look at how to future-proof your workforce by starting with the people who are already part of it. 

Gloat is the world’s first work and workforce operating system for the AI era, helping leading companies like Seagate turn AI potential into real productivity by empowering people to work smarter, faster, and with purpose. 

Visitgloat.com to learn more. 

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Have you ever downplayed a part of who you are just to feel accepted at work? 

Maybe it was your background, your beliefs, or even just your personality. That quiet act of self-editing - called covering - is more common than many realise, and it comes at a high cost to individuals and organisations alike. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Rami Tzafrir, Senior Director of Talent, Organisation and Learning at HiBob, to unpack powerful new research on covering in the workplace. Together, they explore why this behaviour is not just a personal issue but a signal of deeper organisational challenges—and what HR can do about it. 

Key topics explored in the conversation include: 

What covering really means, and why so many employees do it 

Headline findings from HiBob’s global research on identity in the workplace 

Which groups are most likely to cover, and why 

How covering impacts performance, engagement, and career progression 

The link between covering and psychological safety 

What HR can do to create cultures of transparency and trust 

The complex role AI may play in either reinforcing or reducing covering 

This is a conversation that challenges traditional ideas of inclusion and calls for a more human approach to organisational culture.  

Want to build a culture where people feel free to be themselves?   

  

Download HiBob’s new report, “Hidden at work: The human cost of covering in today's workplaces”, atwww.hibob.com/covering. 

 

 

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Is your HR tech stack fixing real business problems, or just fuelling the shiny object hype? 

With new HR technologies arriving faster than ever, many organisations are quick to jump on the next big thing. But in the rush to modernise, are we losing sight of the real business problems we’re meant to be solving? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Matthew Brown, Director of Research, HCM at ISG, whose diverse career spans practitioner, former Chief People Officer, and now respected industry analyst. And together they tackle a fundamental question: Are we truly leveraging HR technology to create business value, or are we just keeping up with trends? 

Tune in and join them as they explore:  

Why the disconnect between HR and tech adoption persists, and how to bridge it 

The risks of adopting AI without clear business purpose 

Why data quality remains an overlooked but critical obstacle 

What HR tech vendors should be doing to ethically upskill their customers 

When reimplementation of existing systems may be a smarter choice than replacement 

How to distinguish genuine tech partners from transactional vendors 

If you’re questioning whether your HR tech strategy is driving real results or just driving activity, this conversation, sponsored by HiBob, offers timely insight, practical guidance, and fresh perspective from both sides of the industry. 

HiBob is a fast-growing new leader in the HCM market. In fact, according to HR tech guru Josh Bersin, HiBob is one of the few SaaS companies that have successfully cracked the code on user experience.   

Josh Bersin says that Bob is not only feature-rich but genuinely enjoyable to use.   

Read his review of Bob--as an HR tech analyst and user--atwww.hibob.com/davidgreen2025.  

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What does it really take to build an HR function that’s agile, data-driven, and truly influential at the top table? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green speaks with Janine Vos, Chief Human Resources Officer and Managing Board Member at Rabobank to explore how she has led her team through a significant transformation - shaping an HR function that not only keeps pace with business change, but helps lead it. 

From embedding agility into the day-to-day to using data as a lever for influence, Janine shares the strategies that have helped her team earn credibility and drive impact. 

Join them, as they discuss: 

What being agile actually looks like in practice, and how Rabobank brought it to life 

How to shift behaviours and mindsets to support new ways of working 

Why data is only powerful when it’s paired with trust and strong relationships 

How Janine helps her team move beyond the numbers to tell meaningful stories 

The value of having people analytics report directly to the CHRO - and what others may be missing 

What HR leaders need to prioritise today to stay relevant tomorrow 

Whether you're leading transformation or seeking to add more strategic business value, this episode sponsored by HiBob, offers practical insights and forward-thinking strategies to help you navigate what's next. 

HiBob is a fast-growing new leader in the HCM market. In fact, according to HR tech guru Josh Bersin, HiBob is one of the few SaaS companies that have successfully cracked the code on user experience.   

Josh Bersin says that Bob is not only feature-rich but genuinely enjoyable to use.   

Read his review of Bob--as an HR tech analyst and user--atwww.hibob.com/davidgreen2025.  

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How is AI redefining the HR operating model we’ve known for decades? 

With AI redefining how work gets done, the pressure is mounting to move beyond legacy structures and rethink HR from the ground up. The traditional three-pillar model is being pushed to its limits, and a new, work-centric, product-driven approach is emerging. 

To discuss this in more detail, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Volker Jacobs, CEO and Founder of TI People, an organisation at the forefront of helping enterprises transform to innovate people’s work. 

Drawing from TI People’s latest groundbreaking research, Volker unpacks how AI is reshaping HR roles, structures, and mindsets - and why it's time to move beyond services toward building HR "products" that solve real work problems. 

Join them, as they uncover: 

Why the classic three-pillar HR model is under pressure - and what might replace it 

The three ways AI is transforming HR: efficiency, innovation, and personalisation 

Which HR roles are being disrupted most, and what that means for team design 

What a product-oriented approach to HR looks like in practice 

The mindset and cultural shifts needed to make this transition stick 

Where HR leaders can start today, without overhauling everything at once 

Whether you're leading transformation or just beginning to explore what AI means for your HR model, this episode sponsored by HiBob offers practical insights and forward-thinking strategies to help you navigate what's next. 

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HiBob is a fast-growing new leader in the HCM market. In fact, according to HR tech guru Josh Bersin, HiBob is one of the few SaaS companies that have successfully cracked the code on user experience.  

Josh Bersin says that Bob is not only feature-rich but genuinely enjoyable to use.  

Read his review of Bob--as an HR tech analyst and user--at www.hibob.com/davidgreen2025. 

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Is HR leading the business, or just keeping up with it? 

As complexity increases and resources tighten, the role of HR is under more pressure than ever. But within this challenge lies a powerful opportunity - for HR to become a driving force in delivering value to all stakeholders: employees, customers and investors.  

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined once again by Dave Ulrich, Co-Founder of The RBL Group and widely recognised as the father of modern HR. Building on the success of his earlier episode with Stacia Garr, Dave returns for a reflective and practical conversation on how HR can step up to shape business strategy and deliver stakeholder value. 

Join them as they dive deep into:  

Why the HR role is becoming more complex 

What stops HR from taking the lead, and how to overcome those barriers 

What strategic HR looks like when it’s aligned to stakeholder value 

The outcome-focused metrics that matter most to the business 

How AI can support - or distract from - HR’s true purpose 

The critical skills and mindsets HR leaders need for the future 

Where work and employee experience might be headed next 

If you're an HR leader looking to have more influence and impact, this episode, sponsored by HiBob, is definitely a conversation you’ll want to revisit and take notes on. 

HiBob is a fast-growing new leader in the HCM market. In fact, according to HR tech guru Josh Bersin, HiBob is one of the few SaaS companies that have successfully cracked the code on user experience.  

 

Josh Bersin says that Bob is not only feature-rich but genuinely enjoyable to use.  

 

Read his review of Bob--as an HR tech analyst and user--at www.hibob.com/davidgreen2025. 

 

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HR is at a tipping point: lead with data or risk being led by others. 

As organisations face growing complexity - from AI disruption to shifting stakeholder expectations - the role of HR is changing fast. Today’s Chief People Officers are expected to do more than care for culture - they’re expected to influence strategy, shape business outcomes, and back it all up with data. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Dean Carter, former Chief People Officer at Patagonia, Sears, Fossil, and Guild, and now Founder and Chief Experience Officer at Modern Executive Solutions.  

Dean has spent his career pushing HR beyond tradition, embedding people analytics at the core of strategy and helping organisations hire the next generation of transformative HR leaders. 

Tune in, as they explore: 

The story behind Dean’s analytics awakening, and how it reshaped his approach to HR 

Why so many HR teams get stuck in “dashboard delivery”, and how to move toward insight and impact 

How renaming his team to “Insights and Outcomes” changed executive expectations 

The measurable business and human value of Patagonia’s four-day workweek 

Why HR must reclaim workforce planning, and treat it as a strategic lever, not a finance function 

 

Today’s Heads of People Analytics skillsets need to step into CPO roles 

What separates data-driven HR teams that lead from those that react 

This episode, sponsored by Worklytics, brings clarity and urgency to a conversation every people leader needs to hear. It is more than a call for better reporting - it’s a roadmap for turning HR into a strategic powerhouse. 

Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity and AI adoption. 

By analysing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work smarter, not harder. 

And here’s something special: Worklytics is offering Digital HR Leaders listeners a complimentary AI adoption assessment to understand how your teams are really using AI - and where untapped potential lies. But don’t wait - spots are limited. 

Learn more atworklytics.co/ai 

 

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With AI tools becoming more common across HR and people functions, HR leaders across the globe are asking the same question: how do we use AI without compromising on empathy, ethics, and culture. 

So, in this special bonus episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green welcomes Kevin Heinzelman, SVP of Product at Workhuman to discuss this very critical topic.  

 

David and Kevin share a core belief: that technology should support people, not replace them, and in this conversation, they explore what that means in practice. Tune in as they discuss:  

 

Why now is a critical moment for HR to lead with a human-first mindset How HR can retain control and oversight over AI-driven processes The unique value of human intelligence, and how it complements AI How recognition can support skills-based transformation and company culture during times of radical transformation What ethical, responsible AI looks like in day-to-day HR practice How to avoid common pitfalls like bias and data misuse Practical ways to integrate AI without losing sight of culture and care 

 

Whether you're early in your AI journey or looking to scale responsibly, this episode, sponsored by Workhuman, offers clear, grounded insight to help HR lead the way - with purpose and with people in mind. 

 

Workhuman is on a mission to help organisations build more human-centred workplaces through the power of recognition, connection, and Human Intelligence. 

 

By combining AI with the rich data from their #1 rated employee recognition platform, Workhuman delivers the insights HR leaders need to drive engagement, culture, and meaningful change at scale. 

To learn more, visitWorkhuman.comand discover how Human Intelligence can help your organisation lead with purpose. 

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At Insight222, we’re seeing more and more leading companies approach workforce planning with the same discipline and structure as financial planning - treating it as a core part of how they run the business, not just an HR process. 

And one company that is doing this exceptionally well is S&P.  

So, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green sits down with Vice-President and Global Head of Organisational Analytics and People Insights at S&P Global, Alan Susi, to explore exactly what it takes to transform workforce planning into a true strategic capability. 

Join them as they discuss:  

How S&P Global is embedding workforce planning into core business decision-making Why Finance is such a key partner in making planning successful Balancing short-term execution with long-term workforce health The role of AI and tech in shaping the future of planning What leading companies are doing differently, and what others can learn 

If you’re looking to make workforce planning a more strategic and impactful part of your organisation, this episode, sponsored by Worklytics, is packed with ideas, lessons, and real-world insights from someone leading the way. 

Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity, and AI adoption. 

By analyzing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work smarter, not harder. 

And here’s something special: Worklytics is offering Digital HR Leaders listeners a complimentary AI adoption assessment to understand how your teams are really using AI - and where untapped potential lies. But don’t wait - spots are limited. 

Learn more atworklytics.co/ai 

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Rolling out AI tools is easy. Making them deliver real value for people and performance? That’s the challenge. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Erik Schultink, CTO and Co-Founder of Worklytics, to explore how organisations can move beyond the hype and start measuring the real impact of AI in the workplace. 

Join them as they uncover: 

Why most companies aren't seeing the tangible value of their AI investment What leading organisations are doing differently to embed AI into the flow of work How people analytics teams can track meaningful signals of successful AI adoption The unintended consequences of AI on workload, productivity, and burnout The role of ONA (Organisational Network Analysis) in improving AI integration Who should own AI adoption Practical steps for HR leaders looking to shape a responsible, people-first AI strategy 

Whether you're just starting your AI journey or seeking to realign your current approach, this episode, sponsored by Worklytics, delivers critical insights to help you lead with clarity, intention, and impact. 

Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity, and AI adoption. 

By analysing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work smarter, not harder. 

And here’s something special: Worklytics is offering Digital HR Leaders listeners a complimentary AI adoption assessment to understand how your teams are really using AI - and where untapped potential lies. But don’t wait - spots are limited. 

Learn more atworklytics.co/ai 

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What does it take to scale talent acquisition at one of the world’s largest companies? 

When hiring spans hundreds of thousands of roles - from warehouses to tech hubs - the answer isn’t just more recruiters. It’s smarter systems, better data, and deep analytics. 

In this episode, David Green is joined by Ashish Parulekar, Director of Data Science and Global Head of Talent Acquisition Analytics at Amazon, to explore how one of the most complex hiring engines in the world runs on data-led decisions. 

Join them as they uncover:  

How Amazon balances cost, speed, quality, and fairness in hiring The tools and tech optimising high-volume and corporate recruitment The various ways to assess top talent without bias The evolving role of people analytics in unlocking productivity What skills matter most in this growing field of people analytics  And how to avoid the trap of “data theatre” in early-stage analytics functions 

Whether you're scaling a global team or building a people analytics capability from the ground up, this episode, sponsored by Worklytics, is packed with practical insight and strategic takeaways. 

Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity, and AI adoption. 

By analysing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work smarter, not harder. 

And here’s something special: Worklytics is offering Digital HR Leaders listeners a complimentary AI adoption assessment to understand how your teams are really using AI - and where untapped potential lies. But don’t wait - spots are limited. 

Learn more atworklytics.co/ai 

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What does it really take to make flexible work succeed - at scale and over time? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with Annie Dean, Vice President of Workplace and Future of Work Transformation at Atlassian, to explore how one of the world’s leading tech firms is boldly reimagining work for the long term. 

Sharing insights from Atlassian’s five-year journey as a fully distributed company, Annie unpacks how her team is using behavioural science, asynchronous collaboration, and AI to design a more human-centric and productive way of working. 

Join them as they discuss:  

The biggest lessons Atlassian has learned from five years of distributed work Why they built an internal behavioural science function, and how it drives their work design How asynchronous collaboration is redefining productivity and employee well-being How AI power users are saving up to 7 hours a week - and how Atlassian is enabling that shift Proven strategies to integrate AI into distributed team workflows Guidance for HR and people analytics leaders defending flexibility with data A sneak peek into upcoming research from Atlassian’s Teamwork Lab 

Whether you’re refining your flexible work strategy or looking to future-proof your organisation’s operating model, this episode, sponsored by Worklytics, is packed with practical ideas and forward-thinking insights. 

Worklytics helps leaders understand how work actually happens with data-driven insights into collaboration, productivity, and AI adoption. 

By analysing real work patterns - from meetings to tool usage - they empower teams to work smarter, not harder. 

And here’s something special: Worklytics is offering Digital HR Leaders listeners a complimentary AI adoption assessment to understand how your teams are really using AI - and where untapped potential lies. But don’t wait - spots are limited. 

Learn more atworklytics.co/ai 

 

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How can HR build agility in a BANI World? 

In a world that feels increasingly brittle, anxious, nonlinear and incomprehensible (BANI), how can HR leaders design talent strategies that keep pace with constant disruption? 

Three years since his last appearance, Loïc Michel, Co-Founder and CEO of 365Talents, returns to the Digital HR Leaders podcast to sit down with David Green and discuss how HR can shift from reactive to truly adaptive strategies in the face of ongoing global uncertainty. 

Explore how HR can build resilience and relevance by focusing on skills, agility and AI-powered innovation. In this episode, expect to learn more about:  

What a BANI world means for workforce planning and HR strategy The concept of adaptive talent intelligence and its real-world applications Examples of organisations leading the way with agile talent practices Why HR struggles to move fast, and what’s standing in the way Practical steps to implement skills-based transformation without long delays The role of agentic AI and how 365Talents is using it to drive change How people analytics and strategic workforce planning fit into this transformation An “uncomfortable truth” about AI and the future of skills in HR 

If you’re looking to simplify transformation, stay ahead of disruption, and future-proof your workforce strategy in a world that won't wait, this episode – sponsored by 365Talents – is for you.  

365Talents takes a flexible, tailored approach to skills and talent management—because no two businesses are the same. Their adaptive talent intelligence solutions empower HR teams to move faster, build skills-based strategies, and deliver real impact at scale. 

Want to learn more? Visitwww.365talents.com 

And don't forget to explore the latest thinking on skills and job architecture in this in-depth playbook: The Skills and Job Architecture Playbook 

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For a long time, coaching was an exclusive privilege—mainly reserved for senior leaders. But thanks to AI and digital platforms, that is changing. Coaching is now accessible at every level of an organisation, transforming how employees learn, grow and develop. However, this shift also raises important questions: 

Is digital coaching as effective as traditional methods? How can organisations balance human and AI-driven coaching? What challenges should HR leaders anticipate when implementing these tools? 

To uncover these very important questions, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Anna Tavis, researcher, global educator, coach, and Chair of the Human Capital Management Department at New York University.  

Together, David and Anna discuss: 

How AI-driven coaching is being used in organisations today Who benefits most from digital coaching—and who might not Key considerations for HR leaders implementing AI coaching tools Common challenges in adoption and how to navigate them The impact of AI coaching on employee feedback and workforce insights The future of learning, development and coaching in the next decade 

With AI reshaping the workplace, understanding how to integrate digital coaching effectively is more important than ever. 

So grab a pen and paper and tune in to this must-listen episode sponsored by Amazing Workplace, an AI-powered platform designed to help companies grow and succeed by unlocking the full potential of their people. 

By providing the most accurate insights into how employees feel and why, Amazing Workplace equips leaders with powerful tools to drive meaningful improvements where they matter most. 

In fact, with Amazing Workplace, companies have reduced turnover by up to 90% and have increased revenue by over 400%.  Find out more at www.amazingworkplace.com  

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Digital and AI transformation is reshaping workplaces across the globe, but why do some organisations succeed while others struggle? What sets the leaders apart in navigating change effectively? 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Lucy Adams, CEO of Disruptive HR and former CHRO at the BBC and Eversheds. With years of experience modernising HR practices, Lucy has helped thousands of HR professionals move beyond outdated, process-heavy models to adopt agile, people-focused strategies that align with today’s fast-evolving business landscape. 

Together, they explore: 

The biggest challenges HR teams face in driving transformation Practical strategies for breaking large-scale change into manageable steps How to address the emotional and behavioural hurdles of transformation Tailoring change approaches to different groups (early adopters vs. resistors) How HR can equip business leaders to be effective change champions The key skills HR professionals need to thrive in an era of rapid transformation 

If your organisation is in the midst of change—or preparing for it—this conversation is packed with insights you can start implementing today. 

This episode is sponsored by Amazing Workplace, an AI-powered platform designed to help companies grow and succeed by unlocking the full potential of their people. By providing the most accurate insights into how employees feel and why, Amazing Workplace equips leaders with powerful tools to drive meaningful improvements where they matter most. 

With Amazing Workplace, companies have reduced turnover by up to 90%, have increased revenue by over 400%, and solved recruitment. Find out more at www.amazingworkplace.com  

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Can employee happiness be the key to unlocking peak productivity? 

For years, organisations have invested heavily in employee engagement, recognising its impact on performance and retention. Research also suggests that employee engagement alone isn’t enough. Yet many organisations still overlook it or struggle to measure it effectively. 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Shon Holyfield, Founder and CEO of Amazing Workplace, to explore why happiness should be measured alongside engagement—and how doing so can transform business outcomes. 

Join them as they explore:  

The difference between engagement and happiness, and why both matter for business success The key indicators of employee happiness and how they impact performance Why traditional engagement surveys may not capture the full picture of employee well-being How a more dynamic, real-time approach to measuring happiness can drive better business outcomes The role of transparency in happiness scores How to balance privacy, authenticity and psychological safety when collecting employee insights 

Listen now to learn how you can measure and improve employee happiness to unlock greater productivity, engagement, and business success. 

This episode is sponsored by Amazing Workplace, an AI-powered platform designed to help companies grow and succeed by unlocking the full potential of their people. By providing the most accurate insights into how employees feel and why, Amazing Workplace equips leaders with powerful tools to drive meaningful improvements where they matter most. With Amazing Workplace, companies have reduced turnover by up to 90%, have increased revenue by over 400%, and solved recruitment. Find out more at www.amazingworkplace.com  

 

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For many employees, work is more than a paycheck—it’s an opportunity to contribute to something bigger. But for organisations, creating a culture where purpose is more than just a slogan requires bold action and thoughtful strategy. 

One organisation that has achieved this successfully is financial services company Manulife.  

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with Katherine Macnaughton, Vice President of Global Talent Management and Development at Manulife, to discuss how Manulife is embedding purpose into every stage of the employee journey. 

Together they explore: 

The catalyst that sparked Manulife’s cultural transformation How the Better Life Campaign is creating a more engaged workforce The business impact of aligning employees with a shared purpose Preparing for the future and Generative AI readiness with Manulife’s Pursuit Program Addressing job security concerns in the age of AI 

Listen now to learn how Manulife is redefining what it means to work with purpose. 

This episode is sponsored by Amazing Workplace, an AI-powered platform designed to help companies grow and succeed by unlocking the full potential of their people. By providing the most accurate insights into how employees feel and why, Amazing Workplace equips leaders with powerful tools to drive meaningful improvements where they matter most. 

With Amazing Workplace, companies have reduced turnover by up to 90%, have increased revenue by over 400%, and solved recruitment. Find out more at www.amazingworkplace.com  

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What if the way you give feedback, run meetings or make decisions was holding your global team back—without you even realising it?  

Cultural differences influence how we work in powerful ways, and understanding them is the key to unlocking better collaboration and leadership. 

So, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with Erin Meyer, professor at INSEAD and author of The Culture Map: Breaking Through the Invisible Boundaries of Global Business, to explore how cultural differences shape the way we work, lead and collaborate. 

Join them as they uncover: 

The eight dimensions of culture and how they impact leadership and teamwork How organisations can use The Culture Map to navigate cultural complexities Strategies for bridging high-context and low-context communication styles Practical approaches to giving and receiving feedback across cultures Aligning hierarchical and egalitarian leadership styles in global teams Navigating cultural differences in time management and decision-making 

If you’re leading a global team or working across cultures, this conversation is packed with actionable insights to help you sharpen your cultural intelligence and lead more effectively. 

This episode is sponsored by Amazing Workplace and Workhuman.  

Amazing Workplace is an AI-powered platform designed to help companies grow and succeed by unlocking the full potential of their people. By providing the most accurate insights into how employees feel and why, Amazing Workplace equips leaders with powerful tools to drive meaningful improvements where they matter most. With Amazing Workplace, companies have reduced turnover by up to 90%, have increased revenue by over 400%, and solved recruitment. Find out more at www.amazingworkplace.com  

Workhuman is the world’s number one employee recognition platform, helping the biggest companies drive engagement, improve retention and show tangible business value – all while making work more human for millions of people every day. To find out more and see it in action, come along to Workhuman Live Forum in London on March 19th. Tickets are free but limited, grab them now at workhumanlive.com/forum 

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Delivering real business value with people analytics requires more than just data—it demands the right strategies, capabilities and ecosystem.  

 

In this special bonus episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Jonathan Ferrar, CEO of Insight222, and Naomi Verghese, Research Director at Insight222, to uncover what truly differentiates leading companies in people analytics. 

 

Drawing from Insight222’s latest research, they explore: 

 

The biggest shifts in people analytics over the past five years How leading companies maximise AI and data democratisation for business impact The key skills and resources HR and people analytics professionals need to develop The critical role of a data-driven HR culture—and how to build one A sneak peek into Jonathan and Naomi’s upcoming book on the ROI of people analytics 

 

Packed with insights, research and real-world examples, this episode is a must-listen for HR leaders, people analytics leaders and anyone looking to transform their organisation with data. 

 

Listen now and take your people analytics strategy to the next level. For more of us at Insight222, check out our website, here.  

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What do you do when the workforce planning strategy that’s worked for years no longer fits the future? You rethink, reset and rebuild. 

 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with Dr. Tobias Bartholomé, Project Lead for Strategic Workforce Planning at Lufthansa Group, to explore why—after nearly a decade—Lufthansa has taken a bold step back to reimagine how it plans for the future of work. 

 

Join them as they uncover:  

 

The reasons driving a complete reinvention of workforce planning at Lufthansa Group How to align future-facing strategies with immediate operational needs Practical tactics for leveraging external labour market data to stay ahead of the competition The art of converting workforce insights into actionable, lasting change Strategies for maintaining momentum through leadership transitions Collaborative approaches within the travel and mobility ecosystem to tackle shared talent challenges 

 

Tune in to this episode, sponsored by TalentNeuron, and discover how one of the world’s leading airlines is preparing its workforce for tomorrow’s challenges—today. 

 

TalentNeuron is the future of workforce transformation. From strategic workforce planning to skill gap analysis, TalentNeuron combines external talent intelligence and internal data into one seamless platform. Why not join global enterprises already leveraging actionable insights to boost organisational performance and readiness and visit talentneuron.com today. 

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Scaling a people analytics function isn’t just about growing a team—it’s about building the right foundations, securing stakeholder buy-in, and investing in capabilities that drive real business transformation. 

 

To discuss this topic, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with Henrik Hakansson, Head of People Analytics at Volvo Cars. With a track record of building and scaling people analytics teams at Sony, Delivery Hero, and now Volvo, Henrik shares practical insights from his journey—what worked, what didn’t, and the lessons he’s learned along the way. Join them as they explore: 

 

How to establish and grow a people analytics team from scratch Key differences in building people analytics functions across diverse industries The skills, capabilities, and partnerships needed to drive real business transformation Securing stakeholder buy-in for advanced analytics The role of people analytics in strategic workforce planning 

Whether you're just starting out or looking to take your people analytics function to the next level, this episode, sponsored by TalentNeuron, is packed with actionable insights. 

 

Hit play to learn how to scale people analytics and unlock its full potential for your organisation. 

 

About TalentNeuron: 

TalentNeuron is shaping the future of workforce transformation. From Strategic Workforce Planning to skill gap analysis, TalentNeuron seamlessly combines external talent intelligence with internal data into one powerful platform. Join leading global enterprises already using actionable insights to boost organisational readiness and performance. Visit talentneuron.com today. 

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Are you still struggling to get it right? Are you struggling to make that transition from Excel sheets, align your data effectively, or executing your plans in a way that drives real impact? In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with David Wilkins, Chief Product and Strategy Officer at TalentNeuron, to uncover what it really takes to master SWP.  

 

Drawing on years of experience and TalentNeuron’s extensive research, David shares actionable insights and forward-thinking strategies to help organisations transform their workforce planning efforts. So, hit play to learn more about: 

 

Why the question of ownership is central to the success of SWP—and who should take the lead How to align internal and external data for smarter, more impactful decision-making Why getting the right data architecture in place is just the first step—and what comes next The tools, strategies and skills organisations need to move beyond traditional methods and drive real workforce transformation 

 

Whether you’re leading SWP efforts, navigating workforce transformation, or just trying to keep up with the rapid pace of change, this episode, sponsored by Talent Neuron, is an absolute must-listen.  

 

About TalentNeuron: 

TalentNeuron is shaping the future of workforce transformation. From Strategic Workforce Planning to skill gap analysis, TalentNeuron seamlessly combines external talent intelligence with internal data into one powerful platform. Join leading global enterprises already using actionable insights to boost organisational readiness and performance. Visit talentneuron.com today. 

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In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by people analytics visionary Prasad Setty to explore the proven frameworks that drive impact to the transformative potential of people analytics in HR. 

 

Drawing on his extensive experience, Prasad shares actionable frameworks and strategies to help HR leaders turn insights into outcomes, tackle adoption challenges and embrace AI’s game-changing opportunities. 

 

Join the conversation as they explore: 

 

The key ingredients that helped Google’s people analytics team achieve unparalleled impact, including unique organisational structures and actionable insights The 4E Model—Effectiveness, Efficiency, Experience, and Equity—and its practical application in people analytics The ‘Arc of Value Creation’ framework and how it bridges insight, action, and outcomes Strategies to close the adoption gap and embed people analytics into decision-making How AI and GenAI are reshaping people analytics and HR strategies The skills modern people analytics teams need to thrive in today’s AI-driven world 

 

Whether you’re looking to optimise your people analytics function or curious about the transformative power of AI in HR, this episode, sponsored by TalentNeuron, is packed with actionable insights and thought-provoking perspectives. 

 

TalentNeuron is the future of workforce transformation. From strategic workforce planning to skill gap analysis, TalentNeuron combines external talent intelligence and internal data into one seamless platform. 

 

Why not join global enterprises already leveraging actionable insights to boost organisational performance and readiness and visit talentneuron.com today. 

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2025 is officially here, and to set the tone for the year ahead, host David Green is joined by two of the most respected thought leaders in HR: Stacia Garr, cofounder and principal analyst at RedThread Research, and Dave Ulrich, the ‘father of modern HR’ and cofounder of The RBL Group. 

 

Drawing on David’s annual “12 Opportunities for HR in 2025” published on LinkedIn, this episode dives deeper into the critical pivots Chief People Officers need to make to amplify HR’s impact and deliver greater value to both the organisation and its workforce. From navigating uncertain geopolitics and economic shifts to unlocking the transformative potential of AI, David, Stacia and Dave share candid insights on the most pressing issues facing HR in 2025. 

 

Listen as they explore: 

The key drivers and challenges shaping HR’s agenda in 2025 How to proactively craft growth strategies amidst ongoing uncertainty Practical steps for creating stakeholder value through human capability Evolving DEI efforts to remain impactful, even as organisational priorities shift The game-changing power of agentic AI for HR, from enhancing business value to reimagining how HR works Rethinking organisational design and talent strategies to stay ahead in a rapidly transforming world of work 

 

If you’re eager to learn how forward-thinking HR leaders are preparing for success in 2025—and want to hear proven tips for igniting meaningful change—this episode, sponsored by TalentNeuron, is one you won’t want to miss. 

 

From strategic workforce planning to skill gap analysis, TalentNeuron combines external talent intelligence and internal data into one seamless platform.  

Want to learn more? Visit talentneuron.com today. 

 

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Taking the first steps towards becoming a skills-based organisation is exciting—but what does it really take to get started? 

 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders Podcast, David Green sits down with Christophe Cabrera, Director and Head of IT Talent and Company Reputation at UCB, to share an honest look at the early days of their transformation. 

 

Unlike the polished success stories we often hear, this conversation is all about the reality of starting out: what works, what doesn’t, and how to build momentum.  

 

Here’s what you can expect: 

The biggest challenges in getting started, from outdated approaches to experimenting with AI How UCB used proof-of-concept to build confidence in AI-powered solutions Managing the complexities of a workforce spread across production, clinical and office roles Keeping their skills framework agile as new competencies emerge Defining what success looks like, with internal mobility and personalised learning leading the way 

 

This conversation, sponsored by TechWolf, is an honest and practical look at what it takes to get started with skills-based management. TechWolf is an AI-powered solution focused on one mission: delivering reliable skills data for every role and every employee in your organisation. 

 

With TechWolf, companies like HSBC, GSK, IQVIA, Workday, and United Airlines have accelerated time-to-hire by 32%, boosted internal mobility by 42%, and saved around $1,000 per employee annually on talent management. Visit techwolf.com for more information.  

 

Links to Resources: 

 

Christophe Cabrera:LinkedIn MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 

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How can HR leaders design company cultures that are intentional, adaptive and aligned with business goals? 

 

To answer this question, in this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green sits down with Melissa Daimler, Chief Learning Officer at Udemy and author of ReCulturing: Design Your Company Culture to Connect with Strategy and Purpose for Lasting Success. With years of hands-on experience at Adobe, Twitter, WeWork, and now Udemy, Melissa brings a wealth of practical insights on how to build cultures that stand the test of change. Here’s what you can expect from this conversation: 

 

How trends like skills-based strategies, AI and flexible working are reshaping workplace culture What a healthy culture really looks like—and how to build it intentionally How Udemy is aligning its culture with skills-focused goals and preparing for AI’s growing impact Tips for staying clear and aligned as priorities shift rapidly Common missteps organisations make when trying to design culture—and how to avoid them 

 

This episode, sponsored by TechWolf, is packed with real-world advice and insights that HR and learning leaders can start applying right away. TechWolf is an AI-powered solution focused on one mission: delivering reliable skills data for every role and every employee in your organisation. 

 

With TechWolf, companies like HSBC, GSK, IQVIA, Workday, and United Airlines have accelerated time-to-hire by 32%, boosted internal mobility by 42%, and saved around $1,000 per employee annually on talent management. Visit techwolf.com for more information.  

 

Links to Resources: 

 

Melissa Daimler: LinkedIn MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 TechWolf: TechWolf  

 

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What better way to learn about the makes or breaks of skills initiatives than from an organisation whose mission is to deliver reliable skills data across the workforce?  

 

Joined by Mikaël Wornoo, co-founder of TechWolf, host David Green explores how organisations can move beyond surface-level skills discussions to drive real business impact. Sharing lessons learned from working with global organisations, this episode covers: 

 

How organisations are innovatively applying skills data to solve business challenges Contrasts between US and European approaches to skills that could shape your global workforce strategy The hidden challenges that derail skills projects and what companies often miss when trying to “get started” The roles required to build a truly effective skills team Why AI isn’t just the future of skills intelligence but the catalyst for shifting how organisations define and measure talent 

This episode, sponsored by TechWolf, isn’t about skills for the sake of skills—it’s about reframing workforce intelligence as a strategic lever for measurable business outcomes. TechWolf is an AI-powered solution focused on one mission: delivering reliable skills data for every role and every employee in your organisation. 

 

With TechWolf, companies like HSBC, GSK, IQVIA, Workday, and United Airlines have accelerated time-to-hire by 32%, boosted internal mobility by 42%, and saved around $1,000 per employee annually on talent management. Visit techwolf.com for more information.  

 

Links to Resources: 

 

TechWolf:TechWolf MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 

 

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In a world where artificial intelligence and workplace technologies are revolutionising how we work, the stakes have never been higher. How can organisations harness these powerful tools while ensuring fairness, ethics and compliance in a rapidly changing landscape? 

 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green sits down with Keith Sonderling, former Commissioner of the United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), to tackle these critical questions.  

 

With a front-row seat to the challenges and opportunities at the intersection of AI and employment law, together, David and Keith explore: 

 

The promises of AI in HR—and the hidden risks leaders need to watch for How the global regulatory landscape is shaping the use of AI in the workplace Who’s accountable when AI gets it wrong—and how liability is determined What HR tech vendors and HR leaders must do now to stay ahead of evolving regulations Real-world advice for embracing innovation without compromising on ethics or compliance 

 

Whether you’re an HR leader navigating the rise of AI, a tech innovator shaping the future of work, or someone passionate about building a fairer workplace, this episode, sponsored by TechWolf is a must-listen. 

 

TechWolf is an AI-powered solution focused on one mission: delivering reliable skills data for every role and every employee in your organisation. 

 

With TechWolf, companies like HSBC, GSK, IQVIA, Workday, and United Airlines have accelerated time-to-hire by 32%, boosted internal mobility by 42%, and saved around $1,000 per employee annually on talent management. Visit techwolf.com for more information.  

 

Links to Resources: 

 

Keith Sonderling:Keith Sonderling  TechWolf:TechWolf MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 

 

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What can we learn from an organisation that has been a skills-based pioneer for over 30 years? 

At EPAM Systems, building a future-ready, skills-based workforce has been a foundational strategy, positioning the company as one of the most mature examples in the field. In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Sandra Loughlin, Chief Learning Scientist at EPAM Systems, to discuss the lessons EPAM has learned over its decades-long journey and how organisations can apply these insights to their own skills transformations. Together, they dive into: 

 

The structure and strategy behind EPAM’s skills-based evolution, shaped by 30 years of experience in skills management Common myths around skills-based organisations The importance of defining the work itself before pinpointing necessary skills Practical guidance on selecting the right technology to support skills-based practices Approaches to validating skills data, moving beyond self or manager assessments to more reliable data sources Insights on tailoring a skills strategy to different industries and functions, and determining when high-quality skills data is a must 

 

This episode, sponsored by TechWolf, is essential for HR leaders seeking to drive business impact through robust skills data and build a truly future-ready workforce. 

 

TechWolf is an AI-powered solution focused on one mission: delivering reliable skills data for every role and every employee in your organisation. 

 

With TechWolf, companies like HSBC, GSK, IQVIA, Workday, and United Airlines have accelerated time-to-hire by 32%, boosted internal mobility by 42%, and saved around $1,000 per employee annually on talent management. Visit techwolf.com for more information.  

Links to Resources: 

 

Sandra Loughlin:Sandra Loughlin  TechWolf:TechWolf MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 

 

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As digital transformation redefines industries, organisations are faced with the challenge of building a workforce equipped for rapid change. At Lloyds Banking Group, this shift is driving a bold move towards a skills-based organisation, where agility, adaptability, and continuous learning are core to its evolution. 

 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by two leaders at the heart of this transformation: Lara Wainwright, Product Owner and Lab Lead, and Duncan Reynall, Group Talent & Development Director at Lloyds Banking Group. Together, they dive into: 

 

The broader strategy behind Lloyds’ workforce transformation agenda How both Lara and Duncan’s roles interconnect to drive the digital transformation that enables Lloyds Banking Group’s skills-based organisation goals Challenges and successes encountered along the journey, offering practical advice for organisations navigating similar digital transformations The role of workforce data in driving progress, fostering culture, and enhancing employee engagement across Lloyds Metrics that Lloyds Banking Group uses to measure success in skills development, ensuring alignment with long-term transformation goals 

 

This episode, sponsored by Workday, is essential for HR leaders aiming to leverage data and analytics to drive workforce agility and transformation. 

 

Workday is a leading provider of enterprise cloud applications for HR and finance, recognised as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for Cloud HCM Suites. Organisations ranging from medium-sized businesses to more than 50% of the Fortune 500— including Netflix, Sanofi, AstraZeneca, and Rolls Royce—have chosen Workday to build their HR systems and implement Workforce Analytics solutions. Join them and learn more at workday.com 

 

Links to Resources: 

 

Lara Wainwright:Lara Wainwright Duncan Reynall:Duncan Reynall  Workday: Workday  MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 

 

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With multiple reports predicting the disappearance of millions of jobs in the coming years, an urgent need for a reskilling revolution has sparked organisations and governments across the globe.  

 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green dives into this pressing topic with Anish Lalchandani, Global Head of Talent Management at Maersk and author of The Skills Advantage: A Human-Centered, Sustainable, and Scalable Approach to Reskilling. Packed with insights, this episode covers: 

 

The “four cornerstones” of reskilling: awareness, application, agility, and alliances, and how they drive sustainable workforce transformation The pivotal role of AI in accelerating reskilling efforts and the importance of balancing technological advancement with human-centered skills Strategies for building partnerships within and beyond the organisation to foster a supportive reskilling ecosystem Key metrics that HR leaders should use to measure the success of their reskilling initiatives and demonstrate value to the business 

 

This episode, sponsored by Workday, is essential for HR leaders looking to transform their people strategies through AI-driven talent orchestration and offers practical takeaways on how to leverage these tools for organisational success. 

 

Workday is a leading provider of enterprise cloud applications for HR and finance, recognised as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for Cloud HCM Suites. 

Organisations ranging from medium-sized businesses to more than 50% of the Fortune 500— including Netflix, Sanofi, AstraZeneca, and Rolls Royce—have chosen Workday to build their HR systems and implement Workforce Analytics solutions. Join them and learn more at workday.com 

 

Links to Resources: 

 

Anish Lalchandani on LinkedIn: Anish Lalchandani The Skills Advantage: A Human-Centered, Sustainable, and Scalable Approach to Reskilling Workday: Workday  MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 

 

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As AI reshapes the HR landscape, many organisations are still grappling with how to turn big investments into real business outcomes. Could talent orchestration be the gap between investment and actionable outcomes?  

 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Jason Scheckner, Senior Director of Business Strategy for HiredScore at Workday, to reveal how talent orchestration is the key to unlocking AI’s full potential and transforming HR operations into a strategic powerhouse. 

 

Packed with actionable insights, this episode delves into: 

What talent orchestration is and how it builds on the foundation of talent intelligence How it connects various HR systems and data to improve processes beyond traditional methods like data lakes and systems of record Why so many organisations are struggling to make real strides with AI, despite it being a top priority for executives Practical examples of how talent orchestration is enhancing internal mobility and employee retention Key strategies for ensuring AI used in HR remains ethical and safe Metrics and outcomes to gauge the success of talent orchestration efforts 

 

This episode, sponsored by Workday, is essential for HR leaders looking to transform their people strategies through AI-driven talent orchestration and offers practical takeaways on how to leverage these tools for organisational success. 

 

Workday is a leading provider of enterprise cloud applications for HR and finance, recognised as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for Cloud HCM Suites. Organisations ranging from medium-sized businesses to more than 50% of the Fortune 500— including Netflix, Sanofi, AstraZeneca, and Rolls Royce—have chosen Workday to build their HR systems and implement Workforce Analytics solutions. Join them and learn more at workday.com 

 

Links to Resources: 

 

Jason Scheckner on LinkedIn: Jason SchecknerHiredScore: HiredScore Workday: Workday  MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 

 

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How is the shift to hybrid and distributed work reshaping the very fabric of your organisation’s networks? And how you can leverage these changes to build more effective teams and drive business success? 

 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Michael Arena, a pioneer in Organisational Network Analysis (ONA), to explore how networks have evolved since the height of the pandemic. 

 

Listen in as they explore: 

 

How organisational networks have evolved in a distributed work environment Key findings from Michael’s research on optimal team size How HR leaders can implement network analysis insights to drive strategic action The role of AI in facilitating ONA and the future of network research 

 

This episode, sponsored by Workday, is essential listening for HR leaders looking to optimise team dynamics and embrace the power of organisational networks to thrive in today’s world of work. 

 

Workday is a leading provider of enterprise cloud applications for HR and finance, recognised as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for Cloud HCM Suites. 

Organisations ranging from medium-sized businesses to more than 50% of the Fortune 500— including Netflix, Sanofi, AstraZeneca, and Rolls Royce—have chosen Workday to build their HR systems and implement Workforce Analytics solutions. Join them and learn more at workday.com 

 

Links to Resources: 

 

Michael Arena on LinkedIn: Michael Arena Workday: Workday  MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 

 

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Transforming a global company like Mastercard into an AI-powered, future-focused, skills-driven organisation takes more than just bold ideas—it takes visionary leadership and a deep connection between the people and business strategy. 

 

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green sits down with Michael Fraccaro, Chief People Officer at Mastercard, to gain insight into how he and his team are shaking things up in HR. 

 

A conversation packed with inspirational actions, you’ll learn about: 

How Mastercard are using AI to rethink leadership Why they’ve gone all-in on becoming a skills-based organisation How their internal talent marketplace, Unlocked, is helping employees grow and thrive Insights on navigating the rise of the gig economy  How to connect and retain younger generations 

 

This episode, sponsored by Workday, is packed with practical takeaways for HR leaders who want to lead their own organisations into the future. 

 

Workday is a leading provider of enterprise cloud applications for HR and finance, recognised as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for Cloud HCM Suites. Organisations ranging from medium-sized businesses to more than 50% of the Fortune 500— including Netflix, Sanofi, AstraZeneca and Rolls Royce—have chosen Workday to build their HR systems and implement Workforce Analytics solutions. Join them and learn more at workday.com 

 

Links to Resources: 

 

Michael Fraccaro on LinkedIn: Michael Fraccaro Workday: Workday  MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture Insight222: Insight222 

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