Washed Up Emo

Chris Simpson joins to talk about his upcoming solo show with Davey von Bohlen (The Promise Ring, Maritime) this Friday in Milwaukee at Burnhearts starting at 6pm! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Travis and I last talked for episode 30 back in 2014! In between texts and tours, this was a great time to reconnect. Travis shares stories about the "Tales For The Rages" album. It features songs written from 2019-2025, inspired by a reunion in 2016. Out now via Iodine Recordings! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome back two guests that have joined forces for a reissue out on Solid Brass Records. It’s the album Go Kid Go by Franklin. I am joined by guitarist Brian Sokel from Franklin and the legend Sonny Kay from such bands as Angel Hair and The VSS. Yet he’s an amazing artist. Sonny made this Go Kid Go Remastered and Expanded into something special. Sonny, Brian and I talk about the process of putting this together, the influx of reissues lately from this era, and what’s next for them in their creative lives including more reissues for Sonny and music from Brian with Dead Best. Go Kid Go [Remastered & Expanded] via Solid Brass Records The official release date is 7/17/26. Orders begin shipping on 7/13/26. https://solidbrassrecords.com/products/franklin-go-kid-go-remastered-expanded Dead Best https://www.instagram.com/deadbestband/ Sonny Kay https://www.sonnykay.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast is Jim Ward from Sparta. Sparta has a new album called Cut A Silhouette is out May 29th on Equal Vision Records! Jim and I speak about guitar tones, recording with J Robbins, co-writing for the first time on a song with Frank Iero, and how Sparta connected with Equal Vision. Lastly we talk about Jim always taking it to the bridge. You’ll get it when you listen.  https://www.sparta.band/ Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The 90s resurgence continues! The band have a bunch of upcoming shows including new music on the horizon. If you haven't heard, Portraits Of Past also recently released a cover of Rites of Spring on a split 7" with Saetia on Solid Brass. A fun conversation with a legend of the 90s era. Hope you enjoy! Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After a decade of silence, Marietta is officially back and currently in the middle of a massive resurgence. We talk about the feeling Ethan felt after going to Best Friends Forever, the emo revival, a resurgence of new generations getting into emo, and the upcoming shows.  https://linktr.ee/mariettatheband https://www.instagram.com/mariettatheband Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast is Kevin Duquette from Topshelf Records! They just turned 20 years and Kevin and speak about the label over the years, the changes and what Kevin and the crew are looking forward to.  As always a great conversation about the state of emo and the once revival era that’s coming up more and more as the eras have done before.  Topshelf Records 101 on WUER https://www.instagram.com/topshelfrecords/ https://www.instagram.com/kevinduquette/ https://www.instagram.com/tonedotaudio/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jon and I chat about the recently released 25th Anniversary reissue of "Just Enough Bright," emo, and Wendy's. Listen/Buy: https://beacons.ai/timespentdriving IG: https://www.instagram.com/timespentdriving/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladd from Park comes on to talk about his work as an author, musician, and association to the word emo. We also speak about his experience with the Washed Up Emo Copycaster by Baldwin Guitars that he has been playing recently. Ladd has been on my list for a long time, happy to have it finally happen! Thanks for the support of this podcast and historical endeavor. https://www.patreon.com/cw/washedupemo https://www.baldwinguitars.com/product-page/washed-up-emo-copycaster Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Excited to announce a signature Washed Up Emo guitar called the Copycaster! I speak to Nate Baldwin from Baldwin Guitars on how this partnership came about, the tech behind the guitar, and the emo and non emo inspirations behind it. We also talk about how he grew up in the Goleta scene and his mom getting hit on by Tom Selleck. Baldwin Guitars: https://www.baldwinguitars.com/ Guitar Ideas YouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCllM0wf-4U&list=PL2DTNmcnpwBOUTdMc30uO-c4pvxaq9wuz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Keith Latinen from Count Your Lucky Stars, Empire! Empire! (I Was a Lonely Estate), Mt. Oriander, and Parting is finally on the show. We had a chance to reconnect at Best Friends Forever 2026 and reconnect again for the pod to talk about his bands, his career, and life up to this point in the world of emo. Keith has never shied away from the word and always was championing bands that slipped through the cracks for many as this genre continues to gain popularity. Learn more about Keith and his label and artists: https://countyourluckystars.limitedrun.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris and I spoke recently after seeing each other in Las Vegas for Best Friends Forever Festival. We chat about the festival, Elliott, and his new band Mirrorless. Support: https://www.patreon.com/c/washedupemo Photo of Chris Higdon by Melissa Mullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Connor Gilroy dressed up as the crow from Death Cab for Cutie's "Transatlanticism" album and posted it on Twitter. Hours later he went viral. I found it the next day thanks to my wife and posted it on Instagram. We connected after someone tagged him on the post and couldn't wait to hear the story behind this amazing costume and his own music. Listen to Connor: https://gilroy.bandcamp.com/album/singles-beach Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jake Snider is part five of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alex Rose is part four of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Knudson is part three of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cory Murchy is part two of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Bayles is part one of a five part series celebrating the 20th anniversary of "Menos el Oso" by Minus the Bear! They're on tour and Suicide Squeeze has put out an anniversary edition for your ears as well. https://www.minusthebear.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome back David Bazan! Last time we spoke was in 2019 on episode 149. Today we speak about the Headphones 20th Anniversary that’s out now on Suicide Squeeze, his upcoming tour with Grandaddy and lots of talk about Best Friends Forever festival. Lastly we touch on how his last interview changed my life for the better.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Galm from Snowing fame has a solo record called "River of Blood" that's out now on Count Your Lucky Stars! We talk about everything under the sun and hope you enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome John Congleton. John and I speak about emo, his old band, The Paper Chase, and the bands he's worked with. It's extensive and impressive! A truly remarkable and open talk about emo with someone who's worked with the best! https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan and Sam speak about the upcoming untitled Promise Ring documentary and how they need your help! https://www.thepromiseringdoc.com/ https://www.instagram.com/thepromisering_documentary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we have back for a 3rd time, Chris Simpson. He recently released a new Mountain Time album called “Dream Homes” on Spartan Records. We talk about the album and really go deep on the making of and the artwork.  We also talk about death, planning, and doing things out of love.  Lastly you can tell we’ve spoken a lot as it’s just a lot of jokes and sorta feels like we just recorded one of many conversations together over the years. I could not be more proud to speak with Chris and know he’s still making music. It’s a gift.  https://spartanrecords.com/collections/mountain-time/products/mountain-time-dream-homes https://mountaintime.bandcamp.com/album/dream-homes Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Best Friends Forever 2025 was just announced, and I have instant feedback on who's playing and the changes for 2025. Listen to all the bands via this playlist on Soundcloud Support the show via Patreon patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Jason Bishop and Bryan Hoffa from the band Bells on Trike. Fun fact: they were around for only a few years in the late '90s, and this is their first-ever interview! Numero Group has their music up on streaming services. Go search it out.  https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Amanda MacKaye. Amanda and I chat about the new Bed Maker record that’s out on Dischord, a big discussion about genre, emo, and her take on it from the world she came from in DC. We talk about the industry as a whole and what’s exciting for Amanda in 2024. This was a really great conversation and I kept a lot of the back and forth in more than usual to keep that feeling for you the listener.  https://linktr.ee/bedmakerdc https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Kristin Thomson and Jenny Toomey from Tsunami and Simple Machines.  We talk about the 90s, running Simple Machines, their new box set out on Numero Group, what DIY means to them, and how it impacts their lives and current work.  I learned a lot from this episode. It was so fun to sit back and be reminded how much more I need to know and listen.  Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We talk about the Seattle scene he grew up in, Acceptance, Anberlin’s new stuff, and we go deep into his years on the road and how he’s balanced his career and family. Plus, your favorite topic, emo. Please listen to the latest Anberlin record, Vega, out on Equal Vision Records. Support: patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome Will Sartain from S&S Presents and Best Friends Forever Festival. Will and I talk about Kilby Court, the longest-running all-ages venue in SLC, and his DIY past. We dive into first thoughts and planning for the festival. It's a really fun look behind the curtain on one of the most unique festivals hitting a specific time frame and Venn diagram we all know and love. If you’re on the way, you’re on your way back. If you've never heard of it, take a second and check it out.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome sunny day real estate. Jeremy Enigk, William Goldsmith, and Dan Hoerner recently took time to chat with me ahead of this run around the anniversary of Diary.  I didn’t edit it. I just talk to them as you would if you got to sit with them for an hour. I hope you feel you’re next to them, chiming in or nodding along. i can’t explain listening back to this the joy I feel hearing them all happy. This is a celebration. A band so cherished and revered is better than they were when you say you saw them first. Go see them now.  I can’t explain how much getting 250 episodes feels, either. I can try, but through many ups and downs, as I’m sure you have going on now, in the past, or up ahead, it felt right to have this happen now. I struggle a lot with keeping up, and I struggle with thinking no one cares. This past year, I spent a lot of time looking for support in those ups and downs.  Hearing SDRE laugh, talk over each other, remind each other of things, and support each other as they go down this road of not nostalgia but celebration and continuation of a band that goes beyond a word, a phase, or even a scene.  From the bottom of my heart, thank you to Jeremy, William, and Dan for coming on and sharing a little about themselves. I hope you enjoy listening along with all the mistakes, my usual questions about emo. I think 250 in, I am not changing the format, there are plenty more stories to hear from our heroes, here’s to 250 more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tony and Jamie from Prawn come on the podcast to talk about getting back together, doomsday prepping, Erewhon, and we inform Tony about a Key and Peele sketch on texting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I last spoke to Orenda for episode 181 with her bandmate Maria Taylor for the band Azure Ray. Today, we’re discussing her new book, “The Witch’s Daughter.” I finished this book in about four days and couldn’t put it down. It’s an amazing book about trauma. There will be something that resonates with you, a family member, or a friend at some point while reading this book. If you aren't convinced, you will want to read this book after listening to the conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Vagrant Records was on fire in the 2000s. That fire was fueled by their music videos, which, at the time, was how you got to the kids. Maureen Barry was a true pioneer in making amazing videos in this scene, and with some timing, millions saw them. This is how she started; the stories are attached to some of your favorite band's music videos and careers. Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Newsletter: https://washedupemo.substack.com/ Podcast network: https://www.doubleelvis.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome John Anderson from Boys Life and Suburban Eyes. We talk about the recent unreleased songs from Boys Life streaming via Numero Group and his new group, Suburban Eyes, with Eric Richter from Christie Front Drive and Jeremy Gomez from Mineral. Suburban Eyes' record is out in August via Spartan Records. I hope you enjoy the episode! Support: https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Boys Life / Suburban Eyes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David NeSmith has been part of some groundbreaking bands in emo. He's not afraid to say it throughout the episode, either! From Maximillian Colby's screamo days to the dissonance of Sleepytime Trio and his work with Bats & Mice. They all scream not just emo but a need to create and share new sounds still to this day. Dave made a playlist you can check out on WashedUpEmo.com or below on the discography of his career. Dive in. The new Bats & Mice record is called Ps: Seriously. Dave's playlist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome John O'Callaghan from The Maine. The Maine have had a long history in the scene and are about to jump on the Sad Summer Tour. John and I spoke about emo extensively and how the band and the music have stayed alive after all these years. I love how little it took to edit. I had a blast talking to John about all things music and emo.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Vish Khanna from the Kreative Kontrol podcast. Vish has had almost 900 guests from across the creative spectrum. A truly amazing interviewer, and it was an honor to have him on the show. Thanks to Holmes from American Football for connecting us! http://vishkhanna.com/ https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome David Mitchell from the Montreal-based band Gulfer. I have loved them since I first heard them in the 2010s. I’ve had a soft spot for their sound and continued work ethic to make music through things that happen in life. Their most recent album, out as of late February, is called Third Wind, and boy, do we get on the chats about waves of emo and the in-between waves as well. Thanks to Topshelf Records, the excellent label that helped put this interview together. Go check out Gulfer. It's a gem worth taking repeated spins in the car with the windows rolled down.  https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo Gulfer's Definitive Guide to 4.5 Wave Emo (2015-2018) https://www.topshelfrecords.com/roster/gulfer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Dallas Green from City and Colour and Alexisonfire. I’ve had the pleasure of working with him over the years and he helped shape who I am. We got to catch up about emo, what Elliott means to him, Canadian bands you should check out, who has been lost, and what he’s looking forward to. Thank you for listening and thanks to all at Dine Alone team for helping make this happen.  Photo credit: Vanessa Heins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Originally from Baltimore, Christine Osazuwa got her start in music at 15. She holds degrees in music, marketing and data science and combined those passions into roles in data & marketing at Universal Music Sweden and Warner Music Group in London. Currently, Christine is the Chief Strategy Officer for ticketing & event marketing startup Shoobs where she leads their marketing & brand partnerships strategy. In addition, she sits on the board of The LIVE Association, Indie Venue Week, and Keychange US. Christine is also the Founder of Measure of Music–part conference, part hackathon– which introduces music & data to others while highlighting majority minority attendees and speakers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Tim Semple, drummer from Boilermaker. Boilermaker was a band from the San Diego area and was on a few labels, including our friends Better Looking Records, who had a CD compilation called Leucadia that has been taking on a life of its own over the years. As the constant feeding frenzy for what’s not streaming, Boilermaker had a few things not up as they say, and Numero Group stepped in to help get them in the ears of those searching.  One person in Boilermaker hasn’t been able to see this rebirth. Terrin Durfey, who played bass and sang in Boilermaker, passed away from cancer in 2008. Tim speaks about hearing Terrin live and the weird crew of people they connected with within their short time together as a band.  A must listen.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Jason Trabue. He’s an accomplished tour and production manager for many bands, including Jimmy Eat World and Garbage. His story of how he got there slides into hardcore and emo with his roots in Kansas City, deciding to try something and started learning the road from the other side. You may have seen him with Hopesfall or alongside other bands in that world. This episode is an excellent lesson for working hard and being calm in a place with constant chaos. Look out for some new Casket Lottery with Jason on the drums or see him on the largest tours in the world, holding it down for many years to come. It was an honor to have him talk about his life.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Garrett Rothman started Art Monk Construction with a friend back in the 90s to release some amazing records. I was obsessed with some of their releases including Seven Storey Mountain and Kerosene 454. Garrett was also in some amazing bands like Junction and Don't Sleep. His most recent project Calling Hours has a new album out now on Revelation Records. Garrett has some amazing stories about his time in bands, running the label, and his connection to DC. Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome Nicholas Pye from the mid-90s band Shotmaker. Recently, Solid Brass compiled all of their music into some beautiful vinyl and digital releases for your ears. They are a fantastic band that was only around for a short period of time, but their sound and influence still resonate today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome back Matt Pryor. Matt is on to talk about his recently announced memoir he wrote called Red Letter Days. It’s up for pre-order right now, or if you’re in the future, head over to Washed Up Books to get one!  Matt and I discuss how he started writing, how he feels about it now, how his adversity and stories helped him deal with many things, and how he’s better for it.  Quick note: We mentioned a guy named Frank early on. We were talking about Frank Turner, the musician who helped Matt start the process of writing. This has been a fantastic partnership where Matt trusted me as I dove deeper into book publishing, and he did the same by bearing his soul in this book. I hope you enjoy the book, or if you’re coming back after reading and listening to this, I hope it adds to the pages you’ve read. Either way, thanks for supporting Washed Up Emo.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With the launch of Matt's first memoir, "Red Letter Days," I listened to the first time Matt and I spoke for the podcast. It was great that I thought it was worth having those who may have missed. Plus, this was a big launching point for the show as I was starting to get bigger and bigger guests. Crazy to think that was 10 years ago this month. Please pre-order Matt's book "Red Letter Days" at WashedUpBooks.com Newsletter sign up Notes from episode 20 I wrote in 2013... "It was an absolute honor to have Mr. Matt Pryor from The Get Up Kids be a part of the podcast. I just noticed after listening back to this episode that the only person left to interview from my opening musical montage is Jeremy Enigk. What a trip it's been. Matt was great to chat with and even had to scold his kids who you can hear at times during the interview. We dove into the first time Matt sang live in front of someone, Kansas City, Boy's Life, ripping off "Static Prevails" and why bands do 10 year anniversaries. Matt also mentioned his opinion on the word "emo" and throughout the podcast you can hear his voice ring with truth that also transcends to the bands he was in and his way of life. And you have to hear what song The Get Up Kids never have to practice that you love. Finally, download his recently launched podcast "Nothing To Write Home About" which is a great listen and unique insight into the scene." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, on the podcast, there is a massive announcement. This morning, I launched a book publishing company called Washed Up Books. After two volumes of Anthology of Emo, I really felt there was more to do in this space and because of your support, it’s time to make this a real thing.  Today, I’m proud to announce Red Letter Days, the debut novel from Matt Pryor from the Get Up Kids, New Amsterdams, and Terrible Twos. Today, it’s available for preorder via WashedUpBooks.com or via our friends at PolyvinylRecords.com. And yes, it is available worldwide. Wherever you are in the world, you can get this! I thought it would be fun to recap the releases of Anthology of Emo and how we got to doing Red Letter Days with the designer Jesse Reed. Jesse’s day job is Order, a design firm, Standards Manual book series, and in a fantastic band called Sharkswimmer, where he’s the drummer. It’ll make sense as you hear the episode. Jesse was invaluable to making these a reality, and we go into the story of how we started doing books and dive into books and music.  This is overwhelming to have happened. It’s amazing to think someone like Matt Pryor, whom I idolized, has put pen to paper and written a fantastic series of stories that I have been waiting to tell you for so long.  Truly, thank you for the support on this podcast and the books. Shout out to everyone who helped make the Anthologies happen, Polyvinyl Records, Ian King, and many others… This is just the start of Washed Up Books.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Eric Richter and Glenn Maryansky from the band Antarctica. Eric was in Christie Front Drive and has been on the podcast before. Eric had this other band with an amazing group of musicians in the late 90s in NYC that went more toward the NYC electronic scene and more Underworld, New Order, The Cure, Ride, etc. At the time, it was largely forgotten. Solid Brass Records is getting this stuff online for everyone to enjoy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Denver Dalley from bands such as Desaparecidos, Statistics, and Weak Nights. If you haven’t dove into any of these bands, they’re a fantastic assortment of unforgettable riffs and sounds. Be on the lookout for more from Weak Nights.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Elise Okusami from Oceanator. She is signed to Polyvinyl Records and currently on a run of dates with Braid and going to rock with Into It Over It as well. Elise is an amazing musician and recently released Nothing’s Ever Fine back in 2022 and has a new single called "Part Time."  You can find everything out about Oceanator at Oceanator.surf  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Bull Gervasi from Policy of 3, Four Hundred Years, and R.A.M.B.O.! Bull has an amazing story to tell about his music and personal life. An absolute legend in the scene from Policy of 3 to Four Hundred Years, he pursued punk and DIY in a way that should be modeled and taught in schools. Even if you don't know the bands, you will after this interview. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Colin McCann from Don Martin Three, Vulture Feather and Wilderness. Don Martin Three were from St Augustine Florida from the years 1993 to 1996. If you’re a fan of Moss Icon, Indian Summer and Policy Of 3. Screaming, quiet loud parts, and amazing guitar work, this is a band to listen to. We talk about that time and the bands from the 90s when the word didn’t mean much. We then get into Vulture Feather, a new album called Liminal Fields is out now and one of the best albums of the year. So search it out. We talk about the meaning behind the band and struggles Colin had before making music again. This was a beautiful conversation with someone I never expected to reach out and happy they did.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's an honor to have J. Robbins on the podcast. As someone that I've enjoyed his music performances in bands like Jawbox and Burning Airlines, to being a part of some of the most influential albums in my life as a producer/engineer, it was hard to not geek out the entire time. He couldn't have been nicer to talk through his life, influences, and his impression on emo and music making today. Be sure and check out his website JRobbins.net to learn more about the projects he's been a part of and his own music that he's continuing to make. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome back Michael Malarkey. I had him on episode 197 and we’re back again to chat about his new music with the group Burial Clouds. Michael, especially on Instagram, is always first to comment on an an obscure screamo band from the 90s. We caught up about some of his fav bands from the 90s ear, what he has to do before every show or play he performs. We talk festivals for a bit and how he handed Jake Bannon from Converge his demo when he was 20 years old. Plus get stoked on Botch and how getting called for movie or tv gigs messes up his show plans.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome again Jeff Caudill from Gameface and his new band called Low Coast. They have an album out right now called Existing the Dream out on Spartan Records. Think Death Cab for Cutie meets Wilco. What was great is that Jeff and I did this in person and was so nice after so many interviews have been done remote. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Ben Green from Fairweather and Ivakota Recording Studios. Ben and I speak about his time growing up, being exposed to music, forming Fairweather, struggles in the mid 00s, and was really candid about not just the successes but the mistakes the band made. Fairweather has new music that you should check out and enjoy the many stories about Equal Vision Records and someone named Dan, who is the GM over there and a dear friend of Ben and I. Also we get into Ben’s 2nd life at his studio as a producer/engineer running Ivakota Recording Studio. A really fun way to end speaking about how he learned things from his band and helping today’s bands try not make the same ones. Lastly, we nerd out a bit on metal throughout the episode including a story at the end you won’t want to miss. And to celebrate the metal chat, we both made metal playlists on Spotify and those will be linked on Washed Up Emo dot com or below depending on your podcast player. Learn more about Ben at BenGreenSound.com or Ivakota.com Metal Playlists!!! Tom - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/14Fe716gzA4oxGEqJhzLVo?si=1bb7531726a34735 Ben - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6EnEhYn1sW4U4YCbK9N2Hm?si=c8fd59a899ab4c64 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Popeye Vogelsang from Farside, Your Favorite Trainwreck, and a new band he’s in called Calling Hours. Popeye is most well known for being a guitarist and vocalist of the band Farside, founded in Orange County, California in 1989 and released their records on Revelation Records. Farside played with a ton of hardcore, punk, and emo bands throughout their life. We talk about his musical family, hardcore, his interesting life after full time music by being a well known as a voice actor and much more. Popeye is a legend in the scene and someone I’ve wanted to have on for a long time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode, I chat with a staple of the Long Island scene, Vinnie Caruana from The Movielife and I Am The Avalanche. Vinnie had some great insight in his early days with music, touring and the LI/NYC scene. We finished up the podcast with what is next for Vinnie and even included some sports chat about his favorite football club, Liverpool.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast are the members of Braid talking about their 25th Anniversary and tour for Frame & Canvas. I thought it’d be funny to interview them in order asking similar questions about the album, their feelings on resisting this record, the remixing of the album from J Robbins, and touring. What’s amazing is everyone gave different answers and memories. Plus, the secret gem of the episode is worth listening through the whole thing I promise you. I had each person describe the other band members in one word. The answers they give are insightful, sweet, and hilarious. First up is Todd Bell, then Bob Nanna, Chris Broach, then finishing up with Damon Atkinson. What’s amazing listening back to these interviews is how different everyone is but how they need a vote of 4 to decide anything as Braid. They’re back, ready to rock again. Lastly, please stay for Damon’s stories which had me laughing and a great set closer to the episodes. We hadn’t spoken before for the pod, so we had a little extra time to chat. This was an absolute blast to do and put together. Thanks to Polyvinyl, Tito and the dudes for being game to have some fun.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Sohrab Habibion from Edsel, Kids for Cash, Obits and SAVAK. Sohrab also filmed a ton of shows back in the day in the DC area and his YouTube channel is full of amazing performances from a time when many shows weren’t filmed. We tap about his time in NYC, DC, bands, his musical life that continues to this day. Sohrab's YouTube Channel  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Rich Balling from The Sound of Animals Fighting, Hospital Gown, Pyramids, and RX Bandits. Rich and I reconnected recently as we last crossed paths during my days at Equal Vision during The Sound of Animals Fighting release “Lover, the Lord Has Left Us…” back in 2006. Now The Sound of Animals Fighting has a new EP called “APESHIT” out on Born Losers Records. Rich and I discuss his career balancing music, collaboration and his day job. Old shows he saw growing up in LA, plus his amazing knack as a teacher in real life to provide some real knowledge about listening to your heart, your mind, and realities we face as creative people. And yes, we talk emo. It’s a podcast about emo.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Melody Caudill. She’s the name behind Career Woman, that’s currently partnering with the fabulous Lauren Records. You may recognize the last name. Melody is the daughter of Jeff Caudill from Gameface and a new band called Low Coast. All that to say, Melody recently released a song called “Patience (I Like You)” that blew me away. Jeff had been sending me her music since she began writing and I was always intrigued with how a rock star’s daughter could go down the same path when most often times they rebel and do something opposite. I threw out the idea to chat with them together. Melody and I kicked Jeff out after about 20 minutes or so and got talk directly about her musical journey, writing process, her wants and dreams. For those listening, Melody is a freshman in college and way the hell ahead of how I was at her age and it was an absolute joy to hear her perspective on things in life and music. She even played Gilman Street in SF recently. Can’t get any cooler than that. To learn more about Melody’s music search out Career Woman on all the socials or through Lauren Records. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome M.C. Taylor of Hiss Golden Messenger and Ex-Ignota. They may have never crossed your path. That’s ok. Upon further inspection, a singer songwriter signed to Merge may bring more questions than answers. We met through a post I made on Instagram. I went, why does that name seem familiar. I reached out and after recognizing the name of his old band on Ebullition called Ex-Ignota, which were a hardcore band from the 90s in Goleta/Santa Barbara area. Fittingly, I took a drive up recently to see him perform in Santa Barbara and speak in person for the podcast. MC was insanely generous with his time and even shouted out the podcast to the crowd during the show. You’ll hear about how M.C. had house shows that would make anyone yearn for a time machine and a love for the early days of emo that was super deep and I learned a ton from him about his position in the scene and where he is today and how it shaped him. His past may be in hardcore and emo with his pedal full on a now full time career as a musician as Hiss Golden Messenger, which we talk about at length. You can hear it in his songs, there’s a little hardcore in em and after this episode it’ll be even more clear. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Vanessa Downing from Samuel or as they known now as Samuel SC. SC is for State College in Pennsylvania where they got together. Samuel was around for 2 years from 1993-1995 and released a split 7” with Texas is the Reason and releases with Art Monk and others. They’re this great moment in that era after the alternative boom and hardcore/emo intermixed. What’s amazing is the band members reconnected further during the pandemic and are back with a new album, touring upcoming and a realization that people cared about their old band. Vanessa and I speak about her life and music endeavors that still burn bright today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome David Knudson from Botch and Minus the Bear. I was so excited that David said yes to the podcast and we spoke recently after the first set of Botch reunion shows. We talk about being creative, Seattle in the 90s outside of grunge, and his battle with making better choices in life. Including a deep conversation on how alcohol can catch up with you and the lessons he learned from rehab but also his family. This new Botch tour and music wouldn’t have happened without love from his family and friends to see this other side. We’re the lucky recipients of that but now knowing the struggle and the strength David had during that time was truly inspirational. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Jake Brennan. I’ve wanted Jake on the podcast for years! You may know him from his podcast Disgraceland or as a member of the band Cast Iron Hike. He also started Double Elvis, a podcast network that I’m a part of. So full disclosure, we’re partners but that being said, I’ve probably had Jake on my wishlist since I started the podcast. We get into a lot about intention and what drives creators like Jake and others. He is in such a great place doing something he loves and it came out of intent. We discuss Fugazi, storytelling, origins of why he tells the stories he does and what his favorite sport is. A truly great conversation with Jake on being a creator and you know it, we talked about when he heard the word emo and his thoughts around it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Daniel Littleton from The Hated. Daniel has a whole other band called Ida and that’s a whole separate episode. Today, we just stick to The Hated, which has had their catalog meticulously handled by our friends at Numero Group and recently played some reunion shows. The Hated were an early emo band. Daniel goes to great lengths to explain his fascination and frustration with the word but in the end he weaves a tale that talks about his upbringing in a biracial family that shaped his life and also seeing bands like Bad Brains or women in music helped guide where he is today. A true legend and I invite you to sit back and listen, which I do for most of this, on a time and place before the word was even uttered. This one is an absolute trip to listen back to and I hope you enjoy.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome back for the 3rd time, Evan Weiss. Evan and I have spoken two other times, episode 23 (2013) and episode 66 (2016). Today we talk about his new projects, his favorite emo albums of all time, and we look back at the emo revival era with a critical eye. We only had an hour with this busy man, so strap in for a quick one. I’m sure he’ll be back sooner than later. https://www.intoitoverit.com/ https://www.patreon.com/stormchasersltd Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Ken Shipley from Numero Group and Tree Records. Many may know Numero Group for their fantastic reissues and they have a show coming up this weekend in LA celebrating 20 years called Numero 20. A very special show with bands we’ve featured on the podcast the last few weeks and more to come. What we’re going to touch on more for this episode is how he got to Numero and his first experiences figuring out the world of record making under the name Tree Records. A fantastic run of releases highlighted by a series called Post Marked Stamps that put many bands we love in the emo genre on the map. A true honor to spend an hour with a person that I look up to professionally. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Ted Leo from Chisel. You may know Ted Leo or Ted Leo and the Pharmacists. Or you’re wondering what Ted is doing on the podcast. We’re deep in our Numero Group 20 Celebration and if you heard the last episode with John Dugan of Chisel, Ted has a great history in hardcore in the NYC area going to shows at ABC No Rio among others and we talk about those days, his thoughts on emo from DC, the early 2000s scene and how special this upcoming "Set You Free" reissue and shows with Numero Group means to him. Ted was an absolute blast to chat with and you’ll wonder where the time went as he weaves stories and moments together that at one point says he’s never said in any other interview. A true honor to have a DIY legend on the podcast and couldn’t have been happier to have it line up with Numero Group’s reissue of “Set You Free” and their upcoming shows. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome John Dugan from Chisel, which we talk extensively about and they’re about to do some reunion shows for Numero Group and reissues for some classic 90s that crossed over into many genres. One that I didn’t realize happened that I do a podcast about was emo. This band is really close to my heart too. I found this band through John’s younger brother Mike. I met Mike my freshman year on campus after someone on our hall said someone down the hall likes weird music too. The first record Mike played for me was Chisel. We became fast friends and ended up seeing Chisel in 1997 with Karate at a house show in Chapel Hill. Little did we know the band would dissolve soon after that show and that would be the end of it. Years later, I’ve spoken to John through his various musical endeavors or at family functions when I’d see the Dugans in Northern Virginia. Full circle moment and happy to have John on to talk about Chisel and his many musical band over the years. We touch on his experience with Revolution Summer, Amanda MacKaye recommending he buy an album that went on to change history, his time at the City Paper and the opportunities that Brough about and the post-Nirvana boom of labels trying to sign Chisel. We even talk Fall Out Boy and the renewed interest in Chisel.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome Chris Sheppard from Everyone Asked About You. If you’re not aware, this band was a late 90s gem of a band that I missed myself during this time. After finding out about them through some friends at Numero Group and talking to Chris, they intersected and overlapped with many of the bands of the time in their home of Little Rock Arkansas. Chris and I talk a lot about where he’s from, seeing early emo bands, being in a band with a woman around that time, connecting with Ken Shipley from Tree Records who now runs Numero Group and the subsequent reunion shows and music being available again for the world. Plus we preview the upcoming Numero 20 showcase they’re playing in LA next month. Finally, we talk to Chris about his career now that I guarantee you will not want to miss. I have to say, talking to bands I never knew then but connect with instantly continues to affirm my belief in this special time as a genre and as a music scene. This band I would have been obsessed with back in the day. Girl and guy vocals, super dissonant and great peaks and valleys. Heaven. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Erik Fisher from The Hated. The Hated were a 4 piece emo band from Annapolis Maryland who were active from 1985-1990. They are considered an early emo band and around the same time as many we know like Rites of Spring, Gray Matter, and Moss Icon. Thankfully, Numero Group has their music streaming and available. Go search it out. Now to the interview. For those that have been in college or had a really great teacher in high school perhaps. This is for you. That one class that you felt so engaged with someone and the flow back and forth on ideas kept on a path that enlightened both the student and the teacher. I let this one stay more open than usual because the flow of this with Erik, who is a professor by profession, is glorious to listen back on. If you haven’t had a class like this before, this is close to it. When the bell rings, you felt you could take on the world and a new appreciation for what you just learned. I learned so much talking to Erik about his perspective on emo, his band, and music and philosophy. My favorite part is when Erik talks about seeing Rites of Spring for the first time. Holy shit, fucking epic. I can’t wait for you to listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Justin Pearson. If that name is unfamiliar, head to Three One G dot com right now. Justin was and is a musical force. He’s been in a lot of projects over the years and worth diving into his work now with Dead Cross, Deaf Club or where I found out about him when I was younger with Swing Kids and then The Locust. Justin was a little older than me and hearing about his history with punk, hardcore, and the word emo was again eye opening for me as someone that only knows so much. Justin was honest and open about how he felt about the scene and is an inspiration for myself and hopefully you after listening to this interview. Again, search out Three One G, we’ll have links on Washed Up Emo dot com and dive into him if you’ve never heard about him or ride alongside with the emo nerd and get schooled from a legend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Tim Kasher, again! He’s been on prior as a guest talking about his entire career and also was included in volume 2 of the Anthology of Emo book series, now we dive even deeper. This time we dive into the absolute classic “Domestica.” Released in June way back in 2000, this album released posthumously, really was an evolution of their last two records and started to almost restart the band out of chaos and unrest. The album, rumored to be about a divorce, as you will hear, is close but also far away as well. Tim was generous was his time to dive really deep into the album, cover, and every single track. Including some about Braces, a short lived band that was a 3 piece that you’ll hear on the reissue. Enough of me talking, this album is a shade over 30 minutes but we’ll spend the next hour to let Tim tell us all about “Domestica.” I hope you enjoy. Reissue is available via 15 Passenger. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Eva Alexiou-Reo, many of us know as Eva Fata. Think about it, you’re 18, living in Pennsylvania and some of the first bands you start booking are Hot Water Music, Elliott, and Jimmy Eat World. How’s that for a start? FATA Booking Company turned 25 in 2021 and still going strong today. Eva came up around a similar time and saw the emo boom first hand with booking and managing bands. Eva is someone I’ve wanted to have on for a long time and I’m so happy we had a chance to talk. You may even start your own business after this one, she’s that inspiring. Learn more at fatabooking.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Kip Uhlhorn from The Red Scare, Panthers and Cloudland Canyon. We speak about emo and hardcore from the late 90s and the many ways that I can sneak in another band that was screamo during that era. Kip has a long history of being in the industry across scoring and bands from the 90s through today. I encourage you to search out and find his music and head over to KipUhlhorn.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast we welcome an absolute legend. Sonny Kay. You may know Sonny from Angel Hair which put out records on Gravity Records or his own label Gold Standard Laboratories or maybe The VSS. If not, that is totally fine. You’ll learn about them all and other projects he was a part of over the next hour or so. Sonny is a pillar in the early days of emo/screamo/hardcore that shouldn’t be overlooked. He’s someone that even if you haven’t heard his bands, you’ve seen his work as an artist for The Mars Volta and many others. I can’t stress enough how much I implore you to search Sonny out, his music, his art and projects. Learn more about Sonny at SonnyKay dot com. Sit back and listen to one of the original legends. It’s an absolute honor to have him on the podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Cam DiNunzio from Lazycain and Denali. Today, he makes his wares as a composer and music supervisor. We spoke about his early days in Virginia Beach, moving to Richmond, and his thoughts on music as he navigated and survived the emo label. Cam’s contribution to music, this genre, and further throughout the musical landscape is a reason for you to stick around if you haven’t heard of the bands or his name. If you have, you’re in for a treat. We dive into the Lazycain and Denali days. At the start as context, I mention Cam’s bandmate John, who we worked together when I first moved to NYC back in 2000. With that said, as comforting as when a 718 area code calls a 917, listening back this felt more like a conversation, not an interview. I hope you enjoy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Josh English from the band Six going On Seven. Josh was raised in Portland Oregon, seasoned in Boston and an influence on many bands you love today. He should be on the tip of your tongue in this scene. Maybe after this interview the band and Josh will be. Their influence personally has stayed with me for years from their days on Some Records in the late 90s to "American’t (or Won’t)" on Big Wheel Recreation released back in 2001. The band shortly broke up and their CDs and 7”s I had have been staring back at me since. I honestly always had Josh on a list to interview and as this podcast creeps past its 200th episode and 10th year, it was an honor to speak to Josh about his life and what’s he got up next in his career. Listen to all episodes here. Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Ryan Shelkett from Blank, Cross My Heart, Dead Red Sea, and Liars Academy. If you haven’t heard any of those aforementioned bands, get on that and you’ll see why Ryan is right at home here on Washed Up Emo. His time in punk, years at Deep Elm Records, and the time I spent working Liars Academy is discussed at length. Ryan’s honest reflections on his time in music both good and bad showcase how this little genre pokes its head out even after you left it in the drawer for years and years. I’ve honestly wanted Ryan on since the day I started this podcast so on the even of 10 years of this podcast, no better friend could be had and I think you’ll agree.   Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome a very special guest and friend, Adam Lazzara from Taking Back Sunday. It’s fitting he’s number 200. I met him early on in my days at college when I’d see him at shows all the time. He was in high school at the time and it was something where no matter the show, Adam was there. During the podcast, we catch up on live and I bring up one of the worst shows he’s ever played at a band that coincidentally led to him moving up to Long Island. As someone who was a fan of him before the band, it was this magical thing. Someone from around here in North Carolina is going to live in NYC? Wow! As the years past and releases, we’d spare a minute or a quick hello as life runs by. It’s fitting for 200 because we’re coming up on 10 years of the podcast and 14 years of washed up emo. You tend to look back and remember who was there next to you at the beginning. Adam was that person. It feels good to know Adam is a part of this series and like emo, no matter if you showed up today or 20 years ago, it’s all here waiting for you.  Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Jonathan Fuller. You may know him from such bands as Sleepytime Trio, Bats and Mice, Denali, and my personal favorite Engine Down. We talk about his bands, career, and what he’s doing now writing music for some of your favorite commercials. Special shout out to Dave from Lapeche for hooking Jonathan and I up. Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome Walter Schreifels. Walter has been in some of the most influential hardcore bands including Gorilla Biscuits, Youth of Today, Quicksand, Rival Schools and his label he ran, Some Records. We also touch on emo, post-hardcore and his life today. Walter couldn’t have been nicer during this interview. He’s still huge in the scene and continues to make music for the masses. Life pro tip. Enjoy the legends today.   Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on the podcast, we welcome actor and musician Michael Malarkey. You may know Michael from his acting roles in the Vampire Diaries to Project Blue Book. His most recent album “Graveracer” was released in early 2020. Michael is a huge fan of emo, punk, hardcore, and screamo. My favorite quote was fitting to many that have a love of something not their job and hope they can do one to help the other. He said, “I’m a musician with an acting problem.” Both are great and it was an honor to have Michael be a part of this podcast. If you’re a fan of him or not, or know too much or not enough, you’ll enjoy this episode.   Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

An absolute honor to have Mike on again to chat about what he's up to right now. He's been on so many times, we get right to the life updates and he gives me shit about my sports teams. Plus, we went track by track through his latest Owen record "The Avalanche."   Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome musician Jim Ward. You may know him from At the Drive-In, Sparta, or Sleepercar. He has a new solo record called “Daggers” out June 11th. If you’re listening to this in the future, I’m sure it’s on whatever streaming service or implant we all have to enjoy our favorite tunes. Jim was an absolute blast to talk to and someone I’ve been wanting on the podcast since I started this back in 2011. We spoke a lot  about his life weaving in music, touring, and what he’s learned over the years. Jim pulled zero punches and was hopeful in his words that resonated deeply with me listening back. If you’re a fan of him or not, you’ll dig this chat.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome Johnathon Ford from Unwed Sailor and Roadside Monument. Johnathon and I have been trying to make this happen for years as we’d connect via mutual friends or at a show. Most recently in Brooklyn back before the pandemic we ended up talking for a long time after an Unwed Sailor show and it went places where you don’t expect a conversation to go and all the sudden you get a text or the bartender goes, “yea it’s closing time.” I wanted to do that again so I got Johnathon to come back on to talk about his music career from his early bands to Roadside Monument and his latest album “Truth or Consequences” that is out now on Spartan Records. As with any guests that got to take in the 80s, I was smitten with his stories of Seattle, Tulsa, and what laid the groundwork for his musical taste, ideals, but also where he is today. If you’ve never heard of either band, they are bedrocks for this scene and worth your time to dive into. If you have and looking to hear Johnathon speak at length about his life, you’re going to love this too.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome singer/songwriter Brian Fallon. You may also know him from The Gaslight Anthem or The Horrible Crowes and many other bands. Brian and I caught up to chat about finding music, his love of emo and influences that many may not realize. From The Gloria Record, Planes Mistaken for Stars, Mineral, Sunny Day Real Estate, I Hate Myself… these all shaped his writing from his time in a band and solo career. It was an absolute pleasure to chat with Brian about his life in music so far and there’s plenty more ahead that will always include some influences from our scene both old and new.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Brian Sokel from Franklin and AM/FM. Franklin were a Philly area band from 1992-2000 that had releases and played with many of your favorite bands during that time. Brian was the guitarist of Franklin and put out a bunch of great music that runs the gamut from post to dub to low-fi indie. With releases on Tree, Workshop, File 13, etc and then with Polyvinyl, for his days with the project AM/FM, Brian has spent time putting together photos and audio online for whoever may stumble upon this. It’s how we met today. We also get to spend time talking about his neighbor Atom from Atom and his Package fame. Let’s hear it for “E is for Enya.” Here’s how to learn more. Check out the website GoKidGo.org and GoKidgo.Bandcamp.com. That’s the way to check out all the music and find more stories about this era and scene around Philly.   Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome Mario Rubalcaba from Clikatat Ikatowi! Mario has been in many bands from Earthless, Rocket from the Crypt, Hot Snakes, and Off!. As with the podcast, we spoke a lot about his time skating, the formation of Clikatat Ikatowi and the surrounding scene of San Diego that shaped him. A lot of great stories from Mario about his time in music. An absolute legendary drummer and so happy he took some time to chat about his time in music with me.   Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome Sara Lund from Unwound. Unwound were around from 1991 to 2002 and Sara joined soon after they started in 1992. Their influences on music and culture run vast from Botch, Garden Variety, Blonde Redhead, Modest Mouse, Pg. 99, and many more. In 2013, The Numero Group released the band’s entire studio output, so it’s out there for you to dive into. Jason Heller from the AV Club and past guest on the podcast was quoted saying “Unwound was the best band of the 90s.” Quite the compliment. Sara has been in many bands since and well worth your time to dig those out. She’s also a drum teacher which you can book an online drum lesson if you want. Learn more at http://www.saralundrum.com/   Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Brianna Collins from Tigers Jaw. The band just released a new album on Hopeless Records called "I Won’t Care How You Remember Me" and it is fantastic. I had Ben from the band on allll the way for episode 77 so it was time for another episode and why not time it around the new album. Brianna and I talk about the band’s evolution, the new record, and her thoughts on the scene from the revival up to today. It was an absolute honor to have time with Brianna to hear her perspective on the scene and music.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome guitarist and singer from Ryan Ferguson from the band No Knife. I had Mitch Wilson (the other half of the guitar vocals of No Knife) on episode 153 and today, we welcome in Ryan. We talk a lot about his music both solo and No Knife, the scene, and I sorta didn’t realize but I read a super low Pitchfork review of one of his solo albums that Ryan never knew they reviewed or read it. So I read the review and you’ll hear how that turned out. If you haven’t heard No Knife or Ryan’s solo stuff, give it a try. An absolute unique sound and their records never sound old to me whenever they come on… No Knife were one of the best bands ever to come out of San Diego and I’m so happy Ryan spent some time to chat about it EDIT: 3/1/21: Not Ken Griffey, Jr. it was Barry Larkin. Ken Griffey Jr. played for the Mariner’s farm system which was a few years later.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome Alex Stoitsiadis from Dogleg. They’re an amazing band and recently for the 7th annual Washed Up Emo Awards, which is only voted on by fans, won multiple awards and we found some time together to chat about the band and their history up to this point. If you’re not familiar with the band, they’re from Detroit, Michigan and released a record called “Melee” last year on Triple Crown. One of the best new bands out there right now, Dogleg and Alex’s words are worthy of your time.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network.             Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris Carrabba from Dashboard Confessional stops by to chat about his accident recovery and favorite songs from his catalog.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we welcome Jim Adkins again on the podcast to discuss a classic, their 3rd album "Clarity" in detail. He and I go deep into every single song, the album overall, and the upcoming livestream where they’re playing this front to back for us on February 12th. If you’re in the future, maybe this is on streaming services, vinyl or some futuristic platform. Learn more about these livestreams, buy a ticket or some merch too, at jimmy eat world live dot com.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we have a special episode with Zach Lind from Jimmy Eat World. He and I spoke recently talking about each song off of their 2004 release "Futures" for WUER, Washed Up Emo Radio that’s on Spotify right now. During the track by track we got into more about the band’s relationship with the fans now during this epidemic and what it’s been like re-learning and playing songs from past albums. I realized I had a ton from the cutting room floor that was worth for ya'll to hear in full. So this episode was quite fun to put together and hope you dig it.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome singer and guitarist Brian Carley from the New Jersey emo/indie/post-hardcore band Penfold. If you’re a fan of the 90s emo like The Promise Ring and Mineral, you’re in for a treat. If you haven’t heard of them, meet your new favorite band.    Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices