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TIE Unearthed

TIE Unearthed

Philippa White

Welcome to the TIE Unearthed podcast. This is the show where we unearth new ways of looking at ever evolving life around the world. Seen from a number of different industries, cultures, and backgrounds. And there’s one thing that unites everyone I speak to. They all want to do their part to make the world better in their own unique ways. It’s a uniting passion. Whether they’re from the commercial world, third sector, or public sector. From the Global North or the Global South. If you’re looking for inspiration that will get you thinking in new ways, then come on this journey with me.

125 - Ep #123: The Things Data Can’t Tell Us, with Michael Swaisland
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  • 125 - Ep #123: The Things Data Can’t Tell Us, with Michael Swaisland

    What happens when the people whose job is to know have to become increasingly comfortable with not knowing?

    We have more data, more opinions and more intelligence at our fingertips than ever before. And yet working out what deserves our attention, and what to believe, may be getting harder.

    That tension sits at the heart of my conversation with Michael Swaisland, Vice President of Consumer Intelligence and Transformation at Arla Foods.

    Michael and I have worked closely together over the past couple of years through TIE Leadership’s work with his team at Arla, so this conversation comes from questions we’ve been exploring together in real time.

    We talk about what happens when AI can analyse more information than any human possibly could, and why that may make curiosity, judgement and empathy more important, not less.

    We explore the increasingly different realities created by our feeds, what that means for trust, and why expertise alone is no longer enough when every problem can be seen through multiple frames.

    And perhaps most importantly, why we need to deliberately create space to be uncomfortable, vulnerable and genuinely unsure.

    A fitting place to begin this new series of TIE Unearthed.

    So, whether you’re heading out for a run or settling in with your favourite drink, here’s Michael.

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    If you would like to order my international bestselling book Return on Humanity: Leadership lessons from all corners of the earth, you can do that here.


    Fri, 11 Sep 2026 - 36min
  • 124 - Ep #122: When Access Changes What’s Possible, with Debbie Ahenkorah and Cameron Milne

    Most conversations about AI begin with speed. What can be done faster, cheaper, with fewer people involved.

    But almost none begin with what an organisation has never been able to do at all.

    And that's where my conversation with Debbie Ahenkorah and Cameron Milne ended up, although it started somewhere else entirely.


    They first met through TIE Leadership during the pandemic. Debbie was leading Golden Baobab in Ghana and needed help translating an ambitious social-impact idea into something the corporate world could understand. Cam, then working in advertising in New York City, became a bridge between the two.


    Six years later, Cam is the founder of Braid, focused on the human side of AI transformation, and Debbie is part of that work.

    During our conversation, Debbie makes an interesting observation: for a small organisation that has always had the ambition but not the resources, AI can become “their Cam.”


    Which then opens up a much bigger question.

    If capability is becoming less scarce, what might become possible for organisations that have always been constrained by access to it?


    We talk about what that could mean for social-impact organisations, why AI only becomes useful when people know how to weave it into the work, and the agency we need to have over how we choose to use it.


    Episode 122 of TIE Unearthed is available now.

    👉 Don’t forget to share your thoughts on the episode, leave a review, and subscribe.

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    If you would like to order my international bestselling book Return on Humanity: Leadership Lessons from All Corners of the Earth, you can do that here.


    Fri, 28 Aug 2026 - 41min
  • 123 - Ep #121: What It Takes to Build What Doesn't Yet Exist, with Faisal Kiwewa

    Some ideas don’t fail because they are wrong. They fail because the world has nowhere to put them yet.

    We often assume that if something is good enough, an audience is already there, waiting. But sometimes what you are actually building is the audience itself.

    That idea runs through my conversation with Faisal Kiwewa, founder and Artistic Director of the Bayimba Foundation in Uganda.

    Faisal began as a musician himself. But when performing became too expensive to sustain, he realised the problem was much bigger than his own career.

    So, over twenty years ago, Faisal set out to create opportunities for Ugandan artists who had talent but few places to perform, collaborate or build sustainable careers.

    Today, Bayimba has helped shape Uganda’s thriving arts landscape, from live music and festivals to training and art forms that simply weren’t there before.

    We talk about what it takes to keep building before the market exists, why Faisal chose to stop performing himself, and what becomes possible when fresh perspectives enter a world you know almost too well.

    And I love the thought that Faisal ends with: you can achieve a mission. But if you can achieve your vision, perhaps the vision wasn’t big enough.

    So, whether you’re heading out for a run or settling in with your favourite drink, here’s Faisal.

    👉 In the meantime, don't forget to share your thoughts on the episode, leave a review, and subscribe!

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    Fri, 14 Aug 2026 - 44min
  • 122 - Ep #120: What Curiosity Needs to Survive at Work, with Jeppe Fischer-Mogensen

    Curiosity is easy to praise and surprisingly hard to organise.

    Most organisations say they want more of it.

    Then they reward speed, certainty and the person who arrives with the answer.


    That tension sits at the heart of my conversation with Jeppe Fischer-Mogensen, Head of Strategic Planning at Arla, on this week's episode of TIE Unearthed.


    Jeppe grew up in a small town in Denmark, feeling slightly outside of things, following interests nobody else around him cared about. That sense of being on the edge shaped how he sees organisations now, and how rarely they make space for genuinely open thinking.


    We explored why curiosity needs purpose, but also room. Why something as small as calling a session a “presentation” rather than a “workshop” can change how people show up. And why brave ideas rarely emerge because people are told to be braver.


    And he leaves us with a thought I love: Have strong opinions, but hold them lightly.


    A useful place to leave any conversation about curiosity.

    Episode 120 of TIE Unearthed is available now.


    👉 In the meantime, don't forget to share your thoughts on the episode, leave a review, and subscribe!

    If you'd like to stay updated on future episodes and other inspiring stories from TIE, join our newsletter here.

    If you would like to order my international bestselling book Return on Humanity: Leadership lessons from all corners of the earth, you can do that here.


    Fri, 24 Jul 2026 - 39min
  • 121 - Ep #119: What if work has become incompatible with being human, with Kimberly Shaw

    What if the problem was never that people can't cope, but that we've built a way of working no human was ever meant to sustain?

    Just think about that for a moment.

    This thought sits at the heart of my conversation with Kimberly Shaw, founder and principal of the Canadian change and transformation consultancy Changify.

    For more than twenty years she has worked inside complex organisational change, helping businesses navigate mergers, transformations and the realities of leading through uncertainty.

    Where Kimberly goes is somewhere more interesting than frameworks. She takes one of leadership's favourite words and then turns it back on itself.

    Resilience, she suggests, has become something organisations expect from people, rather than something they are willing to build for them.

    And a bigger question then follows.

    If trust, connection and psychological safety are the first things to disappear whenever the pressure rises, were they ever really part of the system at all?

    We cover a lot of ground, and Kimberly's energy carries all of it.

    The full episode is out now.

    👉 In the meantime, don't forget to share your thoughts on the episode, leave a review, and subscribe!

    If you'd like to stay updated on future episodes and other inspiring stories from TIE, join our newsletter here.

    If you'd like to order my international bestselling book Return on Humanity: Leadership Lessons from All Corners of the World, you can do that here.


    Fri, 10 Jul 2026 - 43min
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