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UnCommon Law

Bloomberg Industry Group

On UnCommon Law, legal issues, public policy, and storytelling collide. We'll explore the most important legal stories of the day: Will lawmakers be able to rein in artificial intelligence before it's too late? Can the government ever consider race in college admissions? How much power do federal agencies have to make the rules that shape our lives? Can you sue a haunted house for being too scary? Produced and hosted by Matthew S. Schwartz. Winner of the American Bar Association's Silver Gavel Award for Media and the Arts

78 - Fear Inside Trump’s DOJ: How One Lawyer Reached Her Breaking Point
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  • 78 - Fear Inside Trump’s DOJ: How One Lawyer Reached Her Breaking Point

    What happens when a government lawyer stands before a judge without the answers she needs and fears her own credibility is slipping away? Former Justice Department lawyer Sarah Wilson goes on the record about working inside President Donald Trump's DOJ and the changes that brought her to a breaking point. Wilson spent fourteen years defending immigration policy for Democratic and Republican administrations alike. Within weeks of Trump's return to the White House she says her job began to change. A colleague was fired after acknowledging a mistake in court. Career lawyers had less say over their cases. And in some of the highest-profile cases she says career lawyers were told they could no longer advise the agencies they represented on complying with court orders. Those decisions would be made higher up the chain of command. Last time on UnCommon Law, we explored why some judges have started to question whether government lawyers still deserve the presumption of regularity. Now Wilson offers the view from inside the DOJ: the fear, the delays, and the pressure on the lawyers expected to answer those judges' questions. Featuring: Sarah Wilson, former Acting Deputy Assistant Attorney General overseeing the Justice Department's Office of Immigration Litigation; now a partner at Colombo & Hurd Stephen Vladeck, professor of law at Georgetown University Law Center Suzanne Monyak, judiciary reporter at Bloomberg Law Zoe Tillman, senior reporter at Bloomberg News *** CREDITS Host/Producer/Sound Design: Matthew S. Schwartz Editor/Executive Producer: Josh Block Cover Art: Jonathan Hurtarte Special Thanks: Cesca Antonelli, Tom Taylor, Seth Stern

    Wed, 21 Oct 2026
  • 77 - When Judges Stop Believing the Government

    Federal courts run on a quiet assumption: when the government speaks, it's telling the truth. Over the past two episodes of UnCommon Law, we've watched longstanding norms between the White House and the Justice Department erode. Now we turn to the judges. Over the next two episodes, we'll look at how the courts are responding to Justice Department attempts to carry out the president’s agenda — the questions judges ask, the deference they typically give, and what happens when some judges begin to question whether they can trust what government lawyers are telling them. Through a remarkable case involving hundreds of Guatemalan children, we examine what happens when that trust begins to break down — and what judges can do when government lawyers no longer get the benefit of the doubt. Guests: Efrén Olivares, vice president of litigation and strategy, National Immigration Law Center Ryan Goodman, professor, New York University School of Law Suzanne Monyak, reporter, Bloomberg Law *** CREDITS Host/Producer/Sound Design: Matthew S. Schwartz Editor/Executive Producer: Josh Block Cover Art: Jonathan Hurtarte Special Thanks: Cesca Antonelli, Tom Taylor, Seth Stern

    Wed, 12 Aug 2026
  • 76 - SPECIAL: Justice Stephen Breyer on Trump, the Rule of Law, and Whether the Supreme Court is Political

    In this special episode of UnCommon Law, former Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer sits down with Bloomberg Law's Matthew S. Schwartz to discuss the Court, executive power, Dobbs, judicial independence, and the rule of law. Reflecting on nearly three decades on the bench — and the perennial question of whether politics shapes when justices choose to retire — he explains how justices make decisions, and why preserving public trust in the Supreme Court and the Constitution is essential, even as polls show trust in the judiciary near a 50-year low.

    Wed, 01 Jul 2026
  • 75 - How the DOJ Decides Who Gets Charged and Who Doesn't in America

    How does the Justice Department decide who gets charged with a crime and who doesn't? In the post-Watergate era, the Justice Department developed policies and institutional safeguards intended to separate political considerations from prosecutorial decisions: typically career attorneys delve into the law and investigate the facts, evaluate the evidence needed to secure a conviction, and recommend whether a case should move forward. However, Trump administration critics say that process is under pressure, pointing to a series of high-profile cases involving political figures and former government officials. On this episode of UnCommon Law, we explore the doctrine of selective prosecution — the claim that someone was targeted for prosecution because of who they are, what they said, or the political positions they hold. Through the cases involving James Comey, Letitia James, and Eric Adams, legal scholars, journalists, and former Justice Department officials examine how the DOJ decides whether to pursue or abandon a case, and what that process reveals about prosecutorial discretion, independence, and accountability. We'll also examine the changing role of the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section, the office created after Watergate to help oversee politically sensitive prosecutions. Guests: Bennett Gershman, professor of law at Pace University and a former prosecutor in the New York State Anti-Corruption Office; author of the treatise Prosecutorial Misconduct Stanley Brand, former general counsel to the US House of Representatives and a veteran white-collar defense attorney; now Distinguished Fellow in Law and Government at Penn State Dickinson Law John Keller, former chief of the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section; now a partner at Walden Macht Haran & Williams Chris Strohm, senior reporter at Bloomberg News covering the Justice Department *** CREDITS Host/Producer/Sound Design: Matthew S. Schwartz Editor/Executive Producer: Josh Block Cover Art: Jonathan Hurtarte Special Thanks: Ben Penn, Chris Strohm Thank You: Andrew Satter, Cesca Antonelli, Tom Taylor, Seth Stern

    Thu, 18 Jun 2026
  • 74 - Justice Transformed: When DOJ Norms Disappear

    When Robert Jackson stood in the Great Hall of the Justice Department in 1940 and told the country's federal prosecutors that they held more power over life, liberty, and reputation than any other person in America, he was not describing a rule written into law. He was describing a creed. For the better part of a century, attorneys general from both parties invoked Jackson's words as a kind of shared oath. The principle was simple: no fear or favor, just the law. The catch was that almost none of it was codified. In President Trump's second term, he has broken traditional norms of independence by purging career staff, calling for the prosecution of his enemies, and challenging the judiciary. In the season premiere of UnCommon Law, host Matthew Schwartz traces those norms from their origins through their greatest tests — and asks whether the system that held through Watergate, the Clinton impeachment, and even the first Trump term was ever as durable as it seemed. In this episode and the ones ahead, we will explore: Allegations of selective prosecution — indictments of political adversaries, dropped cases against allies — and what the law actually permits. How the federal judiciary has responded, and what judges can and cannot do when the executive branch refuses to comply. A reckoning with the parts of the Justice Department that have been dismantled — the Civil Rights Division, the public integrity section, the career staff — and what their absence means in practice. Also, the stories of the prosecutors and lawyers who quit — and what they saw on the way out. Featuring: Stuart Gerson, former Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division under President George H.W. Bush; co-founder of the Society for the Rule of Law Jed Shugerman, professor of law at Boston University School of Law Chris Strohm, senior reporter at Bloomberg News covering the Justice Department Ben Penn, senior reporter at Bloomberg Law covering the Justice Department *** CREDITS Host/Producer/Sound Design: Matthew S. Schwartz Editor/Executive Producer: Josh Block Cover Art: Jonathan Hurtarte Special Thanks: Ben Penn, Chris Strohm Thank You: Andrew Satter, Cesca Antonelli, Tom Taylor, Seth Stern

    Wed, 06 May 2026
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