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By The Way...with Harriet Rose

By The Way...with Harriet Rose

By The Way...

By The Way... hosted by Harriet Rose is the show that dives into the things no one asked about, but you’re desperate to bring up. From niche obsessions to the random "did you know" facts that sneak into every conversation, Harriet sits down with celebrity guests to celebrate the art of the overshare. Follow us @bythewaypodcastishere on instagram. Follow our host @iamharrietrose

33 - Sabrina Zohar on Anxious Attachment, Dating Mistakes & Toxic Relationships
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  • 33 - Sabrina Zohar on Anxious Attachment, Dating Mistakes & Toxic Relationships

    Ever sent 173 texts to someone who didn’t want to date you? Sabrina Zohar has. But what makes us chase the people who aren’t right for us, even when we know better?


    Dating coach and author of Why Am I Like This? Sabrina Zohar joins Harriet Rose to unpack anxious attachment, toxic dating patterns and why healthy relationships can sometimes feel more terrifying than unhealthy ones.


    From sleeping her way through Manhattan to meeting her partner on Hinge, Sabrina shares the dating mistakes that changed her life. Plus, Harriet opens up about her own relationship history, why she kept falling for emotionally unavailable people and the lessons that finally helped her break the cycle.


    ABOUT BY THE WAY


    By The Way with Harriet Rose celebrates the art of the overshare. Forget the usual interview questions. Every guest chooses where the conversation starts, leading to unexpected tangents, hilarious confessions and conversations that go completely off-script.


    New episodes every week.

    Thu, 29 Oct 2026 - 44min
  • 32 - Saffron Hocking on Football Hooliganism, Dating Dramas & Bathing With Her Cats

    BAFTA-nominated actress Saffron Hocking, star of Top Boy, The Devil’s Hour, Moon Knight and Hit Point, joins Harriet Rose on By The Way to spill on her Arsenal obsession, dating disasters and life behind the scenes, revealing why she’s a self-proclaimed “born-again football hooligan”.


    From turning up to Arsenal games in kitten heels and planning her wedding at the Emirates, to why she'd NEVER date a footballer from her favourite team, Saffron is making football hooliganism chic again.


    Plus, she reveals her hilarious dating dealbreakers, why she takes her cats out in a pram (and even bathes with them!), and what really goes on behind the scenes of her acting career, from on-screen kisses to researching roles at a real police station.
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    00:00 Meet Saffron Hocking: A Born-Again Football Hooligan

    00:45 Making Football Hooliganism Chic Again

    02:10 How Saffron Became Obsessed With Arsenal

    04:26 The Date That Changed Her Life

    06:27 Planning a Wedding at the Emirates

    07:04 Why Saffron Would NEVER Date an Arsenal Player

    07:46 Her Love for Arsenal Women, Leah Williamson & Chloe Kelly

    09:11 Why Everyone Loves Saffron's Mum

    10:36 Are Glory Supporters Really That Bad?

    13:45 The Perks of Being a Football Girl

    14:23 Harriet Tests Saffron's Football Knowledge

    16:38 Why Saffron Refuses to Play Football

    18:10 Football, Drinking Rules & Champagne at the Emirates

    21:29 Meet Saffron's Cats, Figaro & Blue

    22:14 Would Saffron Date a Dog Person?

    22:45 Yes, Saffron Actually Bathes With Her Cats

    24:01 Relationships, Pets & Dating Dealbreakers

    26:00 Dating Stories and Cat-Related Drama

    29:29 The Reality of Being a Famous Cat Mum

    30:03 Finding a Man Who'll Push the Cat Pram

    33:13 Behind the Scenes of Saffron's Acting Career

    33:44 The Truth About On-Screen Kissing

    35:27 Saffron's Detective Obsession

    37:00 Going to a Real Police Station for Role Research

    39:14 Method Acting, Police Badges & Getting Cancelled

    40:35 Hit Point, The Devil's Hour & Final Confessions

    Thu, 22 Oct 2026 - 40min
  • 31 - Hayley Kiyoko on Coming Out, Justin Bieber & Life After Disney

    Before she became known as Lesbian Jesus, Hayley Kiyoko was rocking a questionable bob on Wizards of Waverly Place and opening for Justin Bieber. But how did a Disney Channel star become a queer pop icon?

    Hayley joins Harriet Rose to talk coming out, growing up in Hollywood and the terrifying moment that changed her career. From finding love and embracing her identity to the pressures of being a voice for the LGBTQ+ community.

    Plus, she reveals the heartbreak behind Girls Like Girls, why it took 11 years to bring her story to the big screen and what it really means to be Lesbian Jesus.


    ABOUT BY THE WAY

    By The Way with Harriet Rose is a podcast celebrating the art of the overshare. Forget the usual interview questions. Every guest gets to choose what they want to talk about, leading to unexpected tangents, hilarious confessions and conversations that go completely off-script.

    Thu, 15 Oct 2026 - 42min
  • 30 - Lucas Jones on Grief, Ghosts & What Happens After We Die

    Break Clause actor and poet Lucas Jones joins Harriet to talk death, grief, the afterlife and the signs from beyond that are almost impossible to explain.

    Lucas has one belief he can’t shake: death is a myth. But what does he actually mean by that - and can experiencing loss completely change the way you look at being alive?

    From losing a childhood friend to a mysterious voicemail that appeared months after someone died, Lucas and Harriet share the experiences that have made them question what really happens when we die. Harriet also opens up about losing her dad at 17 — and one unexplained moment that has stayed with her ever since.

    And because this is By The Way, things take a turn. Lucas reveals the childhood identity he nearly adopted, a honeymoon encounter that may have uncovered a long-lost relative, and the bizarre school experience that changed how he saw himself. Plus, Harriet makes a confession about her teenage years that explains… quite a lot.

    Content warning: This episode contains conversations about death, grief and bereavement, including the loss of a parent and a friend in a motorcycle accident. It also contains discussions of sex and sexual experiences, including references to teenage experiences, and strong language.


    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Meet Lucas Jones
    00:32 “Death Is a Myth”
    03:34 Losing Someone Too Soon
    05:08 Where Do We Go When We Die?
    07:32 Harriet Opens Up About Losing Her Dad
    15:33 How Grief Changes You
    17:23 Signs From Beyond
    20:17 Do Coincidences Really Exist?
    24:13 Do You Believe in Ghosts?
    25:00 How Death Can Make You Live Better
    26:14 BY THE WAY: Lucas Almost Renamed Himself “Ice”
    30:22 Growing Up, Parties & Teenage Chaos
    34:06 Harriet Realising She Was Gay
    34:56 Marriage & Lucas’ Barbados Roots
    38:03 BY THE WAY: Have You Seen Succession?
    40:59 BY THE WAY: Lucas’ New Series Break Clause
    43:17 Becoming a “Smooth Operator”
    44:22 Growing Up Mixed Race
    47:13 Why Talking About Death Doesn’t Have to Be Sad


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    By The Way is the podcast where Harriet Rose skips the small talk and embraces the overshare. Guests choose what they actually want to talk about - leading to unexpected tangents, honest conversations and the kind of stories you don’t usually hear in an interview.

    Fri, 09 Oct 2026 - 37min
  • 29 - Nicola Thorp on OCD, Maternity Leave & Investigating Mohamed Al-Fayed


    Content note: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault and mental health. Please listen with care and skip any sections that aren’t right for you


    Nicola Thorp is a broadcaster, journalist and campaigner, dubbed the “Vigilante in Pink” for taking conversations directly to the people she disagrees with.


    This week, Nicola joins Harriet for a conversation that goes from OCD and motherhood to Mohamed Al-Fayed and the far right - with quite a few unexpected detours along the way.


    Nicola and Harriet get candid about living with intrusive thoughts, the moments when your own brain becomes impossible to trust, and what happened when motherhood brought Nicola’s experience to a whole new level. 


    Then, by the way… Nicola can drive a boat, but not a car. Harriet has questions. Lots of them. And five years of living on a canal boat provides some answers she probably wasn’t prepared for.


    Things take a turn when Nicola opens up about her investigation into Mohamed Al-Fayed - and why she believes what happened can’t be explained by looking at one man alone.


    And then there’s the “Vigilante in Pink.” Why does Nicola willingly walk into far-right protests and start conversations with people who fundamentally disagree with her? And what happens when one of those conversations goes very wrong?

    Thu, 01 Oct 2026 - 58min
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