From Underdog to Entrepreneur: Building Dreams with Pat Miller

What do you do when the only job you can get after graduation is nannying, and it ends up launching a 10-year career? In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Melissa Farley, an entrepreneur, media host, producer, and founder of her own communications business who has turned storytelling, marketing, and community connection into thriving ventures. Melissa built a marketing company and a daily morning show from the ground up, and she's now working on a book and podcast about mortality.

Melissa shares her "accidental career" path: graduating in 2008 during the recession, taking a nanny job for the editor-in-chief of the Arizona Republic, and rising through the ranks over nearly a decade to manage a team of 20 producers and 38 properties. After being told she was "unmanageable" for standing up for her young team, she decided to bet on herself. She left in 2019, took a deliberate pause, and went on to launch her marketing company, Stronger Today, which passed the six-figure mark quickly. When the work started to feel like a content churn machine, an Instagram video led to her own morning show, giving small businesses a free platform to tell their stories.

Chapters

0:01 Intro – Welcome Melissa Farley 1:11 From Nanny to Newsroom Career 3:23 How Her Morning Show Started by Accident 5:02 Why She Left Corporate Media 6:52 Building a Six-Figure Marketing Business 10:14 Being Underestimated as a Woman 12:41 You Don't Have to Burn Out to Succeed 14:30 Her "Year of the Hermit" 17:27 The Day She Said No to a Promotion 20:05 Journaling and Taking Thoughts Captive 24:41 Advice She Ignored: Scaling Up 31:21 Action Is the Antidote to Fear 33:51 Women, Confidence, and Failing Forward 39:22 Choosing Clients and Business Partners 44:14 New Book and Podcast About Death 50:47 Advice: Schedule Quarterly Check-Ins 54:52 Where to Find Melissa Farley

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The story of how a girl who ate last at the dinner table built a construction company from a $100 bill. How she lost her husband and still got back up. How every person who tried to hold her back ended up building her up instead.

👉 Get your copy now at: www.patmiller.net

Connect with Melissa Farley.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa-farley-b8097531

What does it take to walk away from a six-figure salary, a Miami lifestyle, and a 20-year career in luxury fashion? In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Melissa Hidrobo, creator of The Stellar Soul, who helps high-achieving professionals design strategic exits from corporate America through a blend of personal clarity and practical strategy. Melissa spent two decades climbing the ladder at luxury brands, including Chanel, Louis Vuitton, and Tiffany & Co. before leaving to build something of her own on her own terms.

Melissa shares how growing up around her aunts' luxury boutique in Ecuador sparked a lifelong passion for fashion, which led her to an MBA in international luxury brand management in Paris and a career with Louis Vuitton, her dream brand. She opens up about the night in the summer of 2019 when, sinking into her couch after closing the boutique, she heard a clear thought: "I don't want to do this anymore." Rather than quitting overnight, she built a bridge, earning a master's degree in transpersonal psychology while working full-time, hiring a financial advisor, and forming what she calls her "personal board of directors."

Chapters

0:00 Intro – Welcome Melissa Idrobo 1:52 Growing Up Around a Luxury Boutique 3:12 Landing a Job at Louis Vuitton 5:43 The Night She Decided to Leave Corporate 6:12 Questions to Ask Before Changing Careers 8:29 Building a Quiet Exit Plan 8:57 Studying Transpersonal Psychology 11:18 The Hardest Part of Leaving a Six- Figure Career 12:33 How Her Network Grew After Leaving 15:42 Defining Success on Your Own Terms 19:26 Why a Financial Advisor Was Key 23:11 From Golden Handcuffs to Freedom 24:42 Turning Fear Into Fuel 32:44 Building a Personal Board of Directors 37:04 Letting Go of Perfectionism 43:21 Why Working for Yourself Feels Different 46:13 Advice for Women Who Feel Stuck 51:46 Where to Find Melissa

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Pat's new book — Underdog to Empire: Breaking Barriers and Building Businesses with Strength, Strategy, and a Sense of Humor — is available for eBook pre-sale now. Widely available everywhere on September 22, 2026.

The story of how a girl who ate last at the dinner table built a construction company from a $100 bill. How she lost her husband and still got back up. How every person who tried to hold her back ended up building her up instead.

👉 Get your copy now at: www.patmiller.net

Connect with Melissa Hidrobo

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melissahidrobo/

From splicing underground cable in Manhattan to co-founding a $10 billion global media empire, this episode is packed with one of the wildest entrepreneurial journeys the show has ever featured. In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Larry Namer, CEO of LJN Media and co-founder of E! Entertainment Television, a cable network now valued at over $10 billion and broadcast in 142 countries. Larry's career spans more than 50 years, including launching media companies in Russia and China, and he's the author of the book Off Script: Never Followed the Crowd.

Larry shares how he started as an assistant underground cable splicer making $90 a week in New York, rose through the ranks at Manhattan Cable, and eventually landed in Los Angeles to build the country's first fully underground cable system. From there, an idea sparked over movie trailers, a scrappy business plan, and just $2.5 million led to the creation of E! Entertainment, a network that grew from 11 employees to over 1,100 in three years and helped launch the careers of Howard Stern, Ryan Seacrest, Greg Kinnear, and the Kardashians.

Chapters

0:01 Intro – Welcome Larry Namer

1:38 From Coney Island to Cable Splicer

2:52 Rising Through the Cable TV Union Ranks

4:19 Building the First Underground Cable System in LA

5:46 Moving to LA and Chasing Hollywood

6:13 The Idea That Became "The Trailer Channel"

7:35 The Idea That Became E! Entertainment Television

9:03 Raising Money with 31 College Interns

11:39 E!'s Explosive Growth to 1,100 Employees

12:42 Launching Howard Stern, Kardashians, and Talk Soup

14:07 Producing Music Festivals in Russia

15:40 Starting a Concert Company with David Bowie, Bowie & More

17:14 "Influence Is Temporary, Impact Is Timeless"

20:00 Why He Finally Wrote His Book

21:45 Blending Memoir and Cookbook in "Offscript"

22:45 Using AI to Hit the Bestseller List in 4 Days

24:50 Backstage Stories: Kardashians, Stern, and O.J. Simpson

26:23 Expanding East: New Jersey Film & Media Growth

28:37 Embracing AI in Business

39:56 Defining Legacy Beyond Money

41:26 Closing Thoughts and Where to Find Larry

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Pat's new book — Underdog to Empire: Breaking Barriers and Building Businesses with Strength, Strategy, and a Sense of Humor — is available for eBook pre-sale now. Widely available everywhere on September 22, 2026.

The story of how a girl who ate last at the dinner table built a construction company from a $100 bill. How she lost her husband and still got back up. How every person who tried to hold her back ended up building her up instead.

👉 Get your copy now at: www.patmiller.net

Connect with Larry Namer.

Larry Namer is the co-founder of E! Entertainment Television and CEO of LJN Media. He is available for board, advisory, and consulting roles focused on architecting global strategies.

📖 New Book: Two Minute Television

Larry's latest book, Two Minute Television, is now available on Amazon in Kindle, softcover, and hardcover editions.

📖 Also Available: Offscript… Never Follow the Crowd

Get your copy of Offscript… Never Follow the Crowd on Amazon in Kindle, softcover, and hardcover editions.

Contact Larry: ljn@ljnmedia.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/larrynamertv/?hl=en

Why do so many ambitious women hit the same wall, no matter what industry they're in? In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Stefanie O'Connell, an award-winning journalist and author of the new book The Ambition Penalty: How Corporate Culture Tells Women to Step Up and Then Pushes Them Down. Stefanie's reporting spans industries from Silicon Valley to the military to the trades, and what she found was strikingly consistent: women who speak up, ask for more, and assert their ambition are met with backlash regardless of the field they're in.

Stefanie shares how her career evolved from writing about personal finance in the early 2010s to uncovering a much bigger story: that when the same effort produces different outcomes depending on someone's identity, that's not an individual problem; it's a systemic one. That realization led to years of reporting, data analysis, and interviews that became the foundation for her book.

Chapters

0:01 Intro – Welcome Stephanie O'Connell 3:52 Staying Silent to Avoid Being Labeled 8:38 Why This Book Starts a Bigger Conversation 15:34 The Gender Pay Gap Hasn't Moved Since 2005 16:56 How DEI Became a Cover, Not a Fix 20:34 Why Women Drop Off at the Partner Level 22:59 The Backlash Against Ambitious Women 27:04 Burnout Isn't Personal; It's Environmental 30:53 Pat's Story: Starting a Company With $100 34:26 The Shocking Leisure-Time Gender Gap 39:09 Why "Doing It All" Is Unsustainable 44:13 Turning "Underdog" Status Into a Strength 47:31 Why Equality Benefits Everyone, Not Just Women 48:35 Pat's Fight for Her WBE Certification 51:51 Where to Find Stephanie's Book

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The story of how a girl who ate last at the dinner table built a construction company from a $100 bill. How she lost her husband and still got back up. How every person who tried to hold her back ended up building her up instead.

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What if the thing holding your business back isn't a strategy problem but baggage you've been carrying since childhood? In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Curtis McCullom, creator of Legit Mindset, who helps CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs eliminate the blind spots that have silently held them back, often since childhood. Curtis draws on nearly 40 years of practicing self-hypnosis and neurolinguistic programming, combined with mental and emotional release (MER), to help high-achieving entrepreneurs break through invisible ceilings.

Curtis walks through the four pillars behind Legit Mindset: Learning, Growing, Expanding, and Transforming and explains why so many successful entrepreneurs hit a wall even after achieving real financial success. He shares the science behind why change is so hard (our behavior is roughly 5% conscious and 95% subconscious) and why simply talking to the conscious mind rarely creates lasting transformation. Curtis also opens up about a deeply personal story: uncovering a belief he'd unknowingly carried since he was two years old that "success is hard and difficult" and how identifying and releasing it changed the way he shows up in his own business.

Chapters

0:00 Intro – Welcome Curtis McCullom 2:19 What Is "Legit Mindset"? 4:37 The Universal Capacity Principle 7:39 Why Your Success Doesn't Limit Mine 8:47 Uncovering Your True Identity 10:34 The 11 Million Bits vs. 50 Bits Theory 11:45 The 5% Conscious vs. 95% Subconscious Mind 13:04 How Bespoke Mental Audio Supplements Work 15:11 Discovering the "Legit Mindset" Framework 17:14 Why Curtis Sees Clients as Already Whole 17:39 Understanding Hypnosis and Trance States 19:59 How Media Normalizes Negative Programming 22:14 The Power of Daily Mental Conditioning 23:37 Processing Grief Through Loss 25:25 Why Outside Perspective Matters for Healing 28:06 Resetting Yourself When Out of Alignment 29:43 Why Boundaries Matter in Business and Life 30:47 Pat's Story: Losing Her Husband and Staying Professional 39:19 Why Successful Clients Still Feel Stuck 40:38 What It Feels Like to Release the "Baggage" 42:44 Turning Adversity Into Power 44:01 Doing the Hard Stuff First 45:20 Holding Grief and Gratitude at the Same Time 46:38 Curtis's Own Breakthrough: "Success Is Hard and Difficult" 51:20 Why It's Okay Not to Be Okay 53:09 Pat's Story: Surviving Birth Against the Odds 55:44 Where to Find Curtis McCullom

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Pat's new book — Underdog to Empire: Breaking Barriers and Building Businesses with Strength, Strategy, and a Sense of Humor — is available for eBook pre-sale now. Widely available everywhere on September 22, 2026.

The story of how a girl who ate last at the dinner table built a construction company from a $100 bill. How she lost her husband and still got back up. How every person who tried to hold her back ended up building her up instead.

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This week, From Underdog to Entrepreneur flips the script. Instead of hosting, Pat Miller sits in the guest chair as fellow podcaster and friend Sarah Walton takes over the mic to interview Pat about her brand-new book, Underdog to Empire. It's a rare, personal look behind the scenes of the show and behind the woman who's spent every week asking other entrepreneurs to share their stories.

Pat opens up about the difference between her first book, a memoir written from a dark, rebuilding chapter of her life, and this second book, which captures her shift from surviving to thriving. She shares the real, unfiltered story of nearly shelving the project entirely, juggling schedules, doubting herself, and wondering if it was even worth finishing, and the moment that changed her mind.

Chapters

0:01 Intro – Sarah Walton Takes Over as Host 1:05 Why Pat Did a Role Reversal Interview 4:34 Pat's First Book: "Kicking Karma's Ass" 6:06 Why She Wrote Book Two: Underdog to Empire 8:28 Standing Out Instead of Fitting In 9:51 The Story of "Nobody Listens to the Blonde" 11:18 Confronting a Client Who Crossed the Line 17:02 Almost Not Finishing the Book 18:56 Feeling Disheartened After Losing Bids 19:38 The Phone Call That Changed Everything 20:50 "Rejection Is God's Protection and Redirection" 21:27 The Moment She Decided Not to Quit 24:34 Why She Keeps Writing and Sharing Her Story 26:43 The Importance of In-Person Connection 28:10 Advice for Anyone in an "Underdog Moment" 30:58 Surviving vs. Thriving 31:34 Her Favorite Chapter to Write 32:59 Where to Get Underdog to Empire & Launch Party Details

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Pat's new book — Underdog to Empire: Breaking Barriers and Building Businesses with Strength, Strategy, and a Sense of Humor — is available for eBook pre-sale now. Widely available everywhere on September 22, 2026.

The story of how a girl who ate last at the dinner table built a construction company from a $100 bill. How she lost her husband and still got back up. How every person who tried to hold her back ended up building her up instead.

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What do you do when everything you built gets taken from you in 22 minutes? In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Summer Dey, an award-winning TV host and executive producer, six-time best-selling author, and two-time Comma Club Award recipient who equips leaders to communicate with bold faith and lead from their God-given identity. Summer has built and scaled multiple seven-figure businesses and is also a fierce advocate for victims of sex trafficking, having helped raise over six figures to support survivors.

Summer opens up about the day her board of directors voted to strip away everything she'd built just weeks after a miscarriage and months before COVID would shut down another business she was building. She shares how that devastating betrayal, and the depression and PTSD that followed, ultimately became the turning point for an entirely new chapter: launching a coaching business in April 2020 that hit six figures in its first six months, publishing six best-selling books, and building a media and speaking brand from the ground up.

How forgiveness of others and of yourself became the tool that ended Summer's seizures and PTSD, and why she now offers a free course on it

How an "accidental" Facebook Live to read the Bible together grew to over 6,700 women in a matter of weeks

Why authenticity, even when it feels risky, is one of the most powerful tools in business and public speaking

The difference between a "talker" and a true transformational speaker, and why nonverbal communication matters so much on stage

Why Summer believes live events and real human connection will become even more valuable as AI reshapes media and content

How she and her family sold nearly everything and spent three years traveling in an RV to 31 states after feeling called into ministry

Why setting aside intentional time to rest and unplug is essential to avoid burnout, no matter how busy business gets

How a single moment of loss and betrayal can redirect your entire path toward something greater

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesummerdey/?hl=eFacebook: https://web.facebook.com/FearIntoFaith/

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The story of how a girl who ate last at the dinner table built a construction company from a $100 bill. How she lost her husband and still got back up. How every person who tried to hold her back ended up building her up instead.

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What happens when you discover your father was a footnote in mob history and it's your own name in the index? In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Glenn Wichinsky, a distinguished gaming and business law attorney licensed in Florida and Nevada and author of Things Left Unsaid: My Dad, The Mob, and Growing Up in the Nevada Gaming Industry. His memoir, recently featured at the London Book Fair, traces his journey to understanding the truth about his father, a man whose life intersected with organized crime, the early Nevada casino world, and the formative years of a now-global industry.

Glenn shares the extraordinary story of stumbling on his father's name in a book by Danielle Gomes, daughter of a Nevada Gaming Control Board investigator, and how that discovery led him to review sealed FBI and military records that finally connected the dots on a lifetime of unanswered questions. He talks about growing up around unexplained moments and surveillance in a wedding parking lot, photos pulled from albums, warnings at customs, and how his father, despite his associations, worked hard to shield his son from that world entirely.

How Glenn uncovered his father's hidden past through a stranger's book and sealed archival records

Why his father pushed him toward law and away from the family business

How gaming law emerged as a brand-new legal specialty in the 1980s, and how Glenn became one of its pioneers

The story of rebuilding his career and finances from scratch at 51 after an unexpected divorce, including running a casino in Laughlin, Nevada, while living in a $15-a-night motel

How an unplanned pivot into international business and marketing became one of his greatest professional skills

Why trusting your gut and acting on opportunity quickly matters more than overthinking it

How the gaming industry has evolved from handshake deals to heavy regulation, and what problem gambling looks like in the online era

Why Glenn now teaches gaming law and established a scholarship in his father's name for students entering the field

About Glenn Wichinsky

Glenn Wichinsky is a distinguished gaming and business law attorney licensed in Florida and Nevada and the author of Things Left Unsaid: My Dad, The Mob, and Growing Up in the Nevada Gaming Industry, a memoir recently featured at the London Book Fair. Glenn originally set out to become a meteorologist before moving to Las Vegas to work alongside his father and later attended law school, where he went on to become one of the pioneers of gaming law as a legal specialty in the 1980s. His career has included running a casino in Laughlin, Nevada, serving as president of a gaming cabinet manufacturing company, and practicing gaming law with a national law firm. Glenn has been teaching gaming law and regulation as an adjunct professor at the University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law, for nine years and established a scholarship in his father's name for students pursuing careers in gaming law.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenn-e-wichinsky-attorney-98b460

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New episodes are released regularly.

What do shoveling coal in Pittsburgh, working on the set of Ocean's Thirteen, and helping companies use AI have in common? They're all chapters in the story of Maury Rogow. In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Maury Rogow, CEO of RIP Media Group and author of Sell Your Superpower in an AI World. Maury has produced over a thousand brand films, teaches more than a hundred thousand students on LinkedIn Learning, and has been featured in Forbes, Entrepreneur, and Success Magazine.

Maury shares his winding path from a cold childhood in Pittsburgh to sales roles at AT&T and Lucent to helping build a startup that sold to Cisco for over a billion dollars, only to lose it all when the market crashed in 2001. That setback pushed him to reinvent himself, this time moving to Hollywood to work on major film sets before ultimately combining his sales background, storytelling instincts, and love of authenticity into the marketing and AI consulting work he does today.

Why the "underdog story" is one of the most powerful tools in sales and marketing

How real, authentic storytelling helps businesses stand out instead of competing purely on price

Why most people using AI are only scratching the surface and how to actually put it to work

How to set up AI "projects" with clear rules, knowledge bases, and no fluff to get sharper, more useful answers

Why businesses need to protect their intellectual property and privacy settings when using AI tools

How live streaming and video add authenticity that helps entrepreneurs build trust with potential clients

Why companies like Blockbuster and Borders failed to adapt and what business owners today can learn from it

The importance of following up after losing a bid or deal to learn and improve, rather than taking it personally

About Maury Rogow

Maury Rogow is the CEO of RIP Media Group and the author of Sell Your Superpower in an AI World. He has produced over a thousand brand films and teaches more than a hundred thousand students through his LinkedIn Learning courses, with features in Forbes, Entrepreneur, and Success Magazine. His path took him from sales roles at AT&T and Lucent, through a startup sale to Cisco, to working in Hollywood before shifting into marketing and AI consulting. He also serves as Chief Marketing Officer of the Applied AI Association.

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mauryrogowofficial/

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/MauryRogowOfficial/

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New episodes are released regularly.

What happens when you sell your house to bet on a travel business idea, survive the world's longest COVID lockdown, and still come out building a multi-seven-figure empire? In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Lisa Pagotto, founder of Crooked Compass, an immersive travel company specializing in off-the-beaten-path destinations and experiences for fragile and emerging communities. Lisa is also a keynote speaker on leadership under pressure and a two-time Entrepreneur of the Year winner who gained national attention after appearing on Shark Tank Australia.

Lisa walks through her surprising journey from corporate travel employee to founder, starting with a travel blog that built a loyal following before it ever became a business. She opens up about selling her house with her then-husband to fund Crooked Compass, her surreal 18-month journey to filming Shark Tank Australia, and how a 12-minute segment aired nearly two years later completely transformed her business overnight, even though she walked away with no deal and full ownership of her company.

How a "no deal" on Shark Tank still led to massive exposure, mentorship, and business growth

Why selling everything to bet on yourself isn't for everyone, but conviction and gut instinct matter.

How Lisa rebuilt her business by launching private plane tours across Australia during the COVID lockdowns, after her original tourism business came to a complete halt.

Why recognizing you're "stuck" is often the first step toward meaningful change

The importance of taking small, actionable steps to build momentum instead of waiting for a perfect plan

Why compartmentalizing personal hardship (divorce, financial stress, single parenthood) while staying professional is a skill entrepreneurs have to learn

How intuition and gut feeling have shaped major turning points in her business

Why paying it forward and helping other entrepreneurs is part of the culture Lisa values most

About Lisa Pagotto

Lisa Pagotto is the founder of Crooked Compass, an Australian travel company specializing in immersive tours to off-the-beaten-path destinations. She's also a keynote speaker on leadership under pressure and has built multiple seven-figure businesses. Lisa gained national attention on Shark Tank Australia, and though she walked away without a deal, the exposure sent her business into rapid growth. During Australia's COVID-19 lockdowns, she pivoted and launched a second business offering private plane tours. Since then, the business has expanded to bring American travelers to Australia for unique travel experiences. She has also been named Entrepreneur of the Year twice.

Connect with Lisa Pagotto.

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lisa-pagotto?originalSubdomain=au

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisapagotto

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New episodes are released regularly.

Not every great career story starts with owning the company. In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller switches things up to spotlight the other side of the journey building a name for yourself while working for someone else. Her guest is Nicholas Verzicco, who runs the construction management staffing division for New Jersey at Actalent (formerly Aerotech), placing hundreds of professionals with general contractors, subcontractors, and AEC firms. A five-time President's Club winner, Nicholas shares how a chance conversation with a former college classmate led him into an industry he never studied for recruiting and how he's built a thriving career in construction staffing just seven years out of college.

Nicholas opens up about his path from Monmouth University, where he studied finance through the Educational Opportunity Fund program, to landing his first staffing role through a simple breakfast conversation and a willingness to take a chance on something unfamiliar. He and Pat dig into networking, mentorship, and what it really takes for young professionals to stand out in a competitive industry like construction.

Why networking and relationships can completely redirect your career path

How AI is being used (and not used) in construction staffing and estimating and why human trust still matters

Why "blue collar" skills remain valuable and future-proof, even in an AI-driven world

The importance of mentorship for the next generation entering the workforce

Why energy, effort, and enthusiasm can set you apart in any role

How giving back through mentorship programs and organizations like Professional Women in Construction (PWC) helps open doors for the next generation

Why staying true to yourself and tuning out critics is essential to long-term success

Nicholas Verzicco runs the construction management staffing division for New Jersey at Actalent, where he places professionals including project managers, superintendents, assistant project managers, and estimators with general contractors, subcontractors, and AEC firms. He has placed hundreds of people in the industry and has won the President's Club for five consecutive years. Nicholas is originally from Mays Landing, New Jersey, and attended Monmouth University through the Educational Opportunity Fund program, earning a degree in finance while serving as president of his Student Government Association, senior class president, and president of the club lacrosse team. He entered the staffing industry through a college connection and has spent close to seven years building his career at Actalent. Outside of work, Nicholas is involved in mentorship, participating in a program for high school students through the Lena Harris Foundation and supporting organizations like Professional Women in Construction (PWC).

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-verzicco-76a404151/

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Cut From the NBA, Built a Million-Dollar Coaching Empire

What does it take to turn 60 rejections into a nine-year pro basketball career and then build an entirely new business from scratch?

In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Dre Baldwin, founder of Work On Your Game, a TEDx speaker, 43-time author, and former professional basketball player who spent nine years playing overseas. Dre shares how he went from a walk-on at a Division III college to building a company that helps entrepreneurs and experts install the mindset, systems, and strategy needed to scale from six to seven figures.

Dre opens up about cold-calling 60 basketball agents and mailing VHS tapes of his footage just to land his first pro contract and how he started posting training videos on YouTube back in 2005, years before "influencer" was even a word. That early audience-building experience taught him lessons about ownership, platforms, and personal branding that still guide his business today.

Why being an underdog can actually be an execution advantage

How relationships and "tap-rooting" knowing someone who knows the right person open doors in business

The real difference between motivation and discipline, and why only one of them is repeatable

Why building on rented platforms (social media) means you don't actually own your audience

How relatability and authenticity build stronger connections than raw talent or fame

Why slowly transitioning clients to other team members protects a business built around one person

The importance of structure, self-discipline, and controlling distractions as your own boss

Dre Baldwin is the founder of Work On Your Game, a company that helps experts and entrepreneurs install the mindset, systems, and strategy needed to scale their businesses from six to seven figures. He's a TEDx speaker and a 43-time author. Before entrepreneurship, Dre spent nine years as a professional basketball player overseas, mostly in Europe, after walking on at the Division III college level. While still playing, he began posting training videos on YouTube back in 2005, building an audience that eventually extended beyond basketball players to professionals and entrepreneurs interested in his lessons on discipline, confidence, and mental toughness. In 2015, he stopped playing basketball to focus full-time on that mindset-driven business, moving through professional speaking before shifting into the consulting and coaching work he does today, centered on execution reliability and building presence and power in business.

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Why Diversity Training Fails and What Actually Works

What happens when you've spent 30 years telling CEOs the truth nobody else will?

In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Mauricio Velasquez, president of Diversity Training Group (DTG) and author of the newly released book Tackling Toxicity: A Skills-Based Guide to Addressing Toxicity. Mauricio has trained, consulted, and coached over a million people across every U.S. state but one in a career spanning three decades.

Mauricio opens up about starting his business on a houseboat in Baltimore's Inner Harbor, a $520-a-month setup with no insulation but a "billion-dollar view," and how growing up watching racism directed at his immigrant parents shaped his life's work. From there, he built a career doing the jobs nobody else wants to touch: sexual harassment training, executive coaching, and calling out toxic behavior that most companies would rather ignore.

Why most people are conflict-averse and avoid addressing toxic behavior and why that silence only makes it worse

The difference between responding and reacting when someone is being toxic or bullying

Why "soft skills" are actually the hardest skills to master, and why the label undersells them

How writing a book and speaking at conferences became a lead-generation engine for his consulting business

Why diversity and inclusion work is tied directly to business growth, market expansion, and staying competitive

Real, unfiltered stories from Mauricio's career from a car dealership salesman ignoring his wife, to a model home saleswoman questioning whether he could afford a house, to his own mother's initial rejection of his wife

Why he believes DEI work is set for a resurgence, even amid current industry headwinds

Mauricio Velasquez is the President of Diversity Training Group (DTG), a company he founded that is celebrating 30 years in business this year. Over the course of his career, he has trained, consulted, and coached more than a million people in every U.S. state except North Dakota. His work covers diversity and inclusion training, sexual harassment training, mentoring, and executive coaching, helping organizations and leaders address issues they'd often rather avoid. Mauricio is also the author of the newly released book Tackling Toxicity: A Skills-Based Guide to Addressing Toxicity, which draws on real stories from his three-decade career to teach practical, skills-based approaches for calling out toxic behavior in the workplace and beyond. He got his start in business working out of a houseboat in Baltimore's Inner Harbor, and his motivation for the work traces back to witnessing discrimination directed at his immigrant parents as a child.

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From Wall Street to Dog Walking Empire

What happens when you walk away from a 22-year career on Wall Street to pursue something completely different?

In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur: Building Dreams with Pat Miller, host Pat Miller sits down with Amanda Anderson, founder of Ring and Run Dog Walkers, to explore her remarkable transition from the fast-paced world of New York's Financial District to building one of Staten Island's premier dog walking businesses.

Amanda shares how she recognized the changing landscape of Wall Street, started building her business while still employed, and eventually turned a side hustle into a thriving company. She explains why entrepreneurship isn't always about chasing millions, but about creating a lifestyle you genuinely enjoy.

Throughout the conversation, Amanda offers honest advice on hiring, setting boundaries, automating operations, building customer trust, and creating systems that allow a business to grow without consuming your entire life. Her story is a powerful reminder that success can look different for everyone.

Whether you're considering leaving a corporate career, building a service business, or looking for inspiration to pursue a more meaningful path, this episode delivers practical lessons from someone who successfully made the leap.

Why Amanda left a 22-year Wall Street career to become an entrepreneur

How to build a business while still working a full-time job

The importance of running your side hustle before making the leap

Why relationships and customer trust matter more than marketing

How hiring the right people can transform your business

The systems every growing business should implement early

Why entrepreneurs need clear boundaries with clients

The difference between working in your business and on your business

How to create a business that supports your lifestyle instead of consuming it

Why success isn't always measured by revenue alone

Amanda Anderson is the founder and owner of Ring and Run Dog Walkers, Staten Island's premier dog walking service. After spending more than two decades working on the trading floor in New York City's Financial District, Amanda made the bold decision to pursue entrepreneurship full-time.

Today, she has built a trusted pet care business known for exceptional customer service, strong client relationships, and personalized care. Amanda combines her passion for animals with a people-first approach, proving that businesses built on trust, reputation, and genuine service can thrive through referrals and organic growth.

Follow Amanda and Ring and Run Dog Walkers on social media to learn more about her entrepreneurial journey, pet care insights, and growing a service-based business with purpose.

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What does it take to go from organizing small events at 19 years old to working with Grammy-winning artists, launching one of Hollywood's hottest nightlife venues, and building a successful talent management company?

In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur: Building Dreams with Pat Miller, host Pat Miller sits down with Connor Treacy, an entrepreneur, talent manager, and former music producer who turned his passion for music and entertainment into a thriving business in Los Angeles.

Connor shares his unconventional journey from promoting concerts while still in college to becoming one of Hollywood's most connected young promoters. He explains how those relationships led him to Universal Music Group, where he helped develop rising talent and worked alongside artists who would go on to win Grammy Awards. Later, he co-founded one of LA's most exclusive nightlife venues before pivoting once again to build his own management company.

This conversation is packed with lessons on entrepreneurship, relationship building, calculated risk-taking, and adapting through uncertainty, including surviving the entertainment industry's shutdown during COVID-19. Whether you're pursuing a career in music, launching a startup, or building your own brand, Connor's story proves that success rarely follows a straight line.

If you're interested in becoming a creative entrepreneur, building a music industry business, or learning how to turn passion into a sustainable company, this episode is full of practical insights.

How Connor built a successful career as a music producer and entrepreneur

Why relationships are the foundation of every successful music industry business

The lessons learned from promoting concerts before turning 21

How networking opened doors at Universal Music Group

What it takes to build a successful business in Los Angeles

The reality of becoming an LA business owner in the entertainment industry

Why calculated risk is essential for entrepreneurs

How COVID forced entrepreneurs to pivot and adapt

The importance of momentum in business and career growth

Why your entrepreneurial journey doesn't have to follow a traditional path

Connor Treacy is an entrepreneur, talent manager, and entertainment executive based in Los Angeles. After launching his entrepreneurial journey by promoting concerts and nightlife events, Connor built relationships that led to opportunities with Universal Music Group, where he worked alongside emerging artists and Grammy-winning talent.

He later co-founded Off Sunset, one of Hollywood's most exclusive nightlife venues, before returning to his passion for talent management. Today, Connor helps build artists, brands, and strategic partnerships across music, entertainment, hospitality, and culture while continuing to grow his management company. He recently completed his MBA at USC Marshall, combining real-world entrepreneurial experience with advanced business strategy.

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If you've ever wondered why you can't close a sale, this episode is for you.

In this powerful episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur: Building Dreams, host Pat Miller sits down with Kayvon Kay, internationally recognized keynote speaker, Master Closer, sales strategist, and revenue architect, to break down the psychology behind closing deals and why most entrepreneurs unknowingly sabotage their own sales.

Kayvon shares the mindset shifts, communication skills, and sales techniques that separate top performers from everyone else. From handling objections with confidence to understanding why people really buy, he explains that great sales isn't about pressure or manipulation. It's about creating trust, solving problems, and becoming someone people naturally want to buy from.

The conversation also explores the rapid rise of AI and how today's entrepreneurs can use technology to sell more effectively without losing the human connection that ultimately wins business. Whether you're a business owner, freelancer, salesperson, or entrepreneur, you'll discover practical insights that can immediately improve your ability to influence, communicate, and grow revenue.

If you're looking for actionable sales training, better ways of overcoming objections, and proven methods for how to close a sale, this episode delivers a masterclass from one of the industry's leading experts.

Why most people struggle with closing deals

The biggest mistake salespeople make before asking for the sale

Practical sales techniques that build trust instead of pressure

How to confidently handle and overcome objections

The mindset every Master Closer develops

Why sales is about solving problems, not convincing people

How entrepreneurs can use AI to improve productivity without replacing human relationships

The importance of authenticity in modern selling

Why embracing new technology creates more opportunity, not less

How to future-proof your business in an AI-driven world

Kayvon Kay is a globally recognized keynote speaker, sales strategist, revenue architect, and Master Closer who has trained thousands of entrepreneurs, founders, and sales professionals around the world. Through one-on-one coaching, group programs, live events, and corporate training, Kayvon helps businesses increase revenue by mastering communication, improving sales performance, and building scalable systems that consistently close more deals.

His practical approach combines psychology, leadership, and modern technology to help professionals sell with confidence while creating genuine, long-term relationships with clients.

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In this inspiring episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur: Building Dreams with Pat Miller, Pat sits down with Mark Khuri, CEO and Co-Founder of SMK Capital Management, to uncover the remarkable journey from working in a corporate cubicle to building a $1.5 billion real estate investment portfolio.

Mark shares how a simple conversation with a coworker sparked his passion for real estate investing and led him to purchase his first property while still working a full-time corporate job. Through persistence, calculated risks, and years of learning, he transitioned from fixing up duplexes after work to leading a private equity firm with investments spanning more than 120 properties across 36 states.

The conversation dives deep into today's real estate market, recession-resistant investment strategies, mobile home park investing, passive income opportunities, and the importance of diversification when building long-term wealth. Mark also opens up about setbacks, including a devastating property fire, lessons learned from raising investment capital, and why character and relationships matter more than chasing quick profits.

Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur, a seasoned investor, or someone looking to build financial freedom through real estate, this episode delivers practical insights and timeless business wisdom.

How Mark turned a corporate finance job into a $1.5B real estate business

Why starting real estate investing while keeping your day job can reduce risk

The biggest lessons from building SMK Capital Management

Why mobile home parks remain one of the most resilient real estate investments

The truth about today's self-storage and multifamily markets

How successful investors evaluate risk before making a deal

Why diversification is essential for protecting wealth

The importance of surrounding yourself with trustworthy partners

Lessons from raising private investment capital

Why entrepreneurship is about freedom, relationships, and long-term thinking

Mark Khuri is the CEO and Co-Founder of SMK Capital Management, a family-owned private equity real estate firm specializing in institutional-quality, recession-resistant investments. With more than two decades of experience, Mark has participated in over 120 real estate investments valued at more than $1.5 billion and has built more than 70 successful investment partnerships. His mission is helping investors create long-term wealth through carefully selected passive real estate opportunities while emphasizing education, integrity, and disciplined investing.

Website: https://www.smkcap.com

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What if the biggest opportunities are hiding where everyone else isn't looking?

In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with John Petrocelli, founder and CEO of Bulldog DM, whose work has generated more than 1 billion audience engagements for brands including Apple, Coca-Cola, Samsung, Netflix, and YouTube.

John shares his journey from working in telecommunications and Hollywood mailrooms to helping pioneer the livestreaming industry. Along the way, he collaborated with Prince on one of the first direct-to-consumer music platforms, learned entrepreneurial lessons from Mark Cuban, and built a business by constantly anticipating where technology was heading next.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• Why successful entrepreneurs focus on where the market is going, not where it is today • How Prince helped shape the future of digital media and direct-to-consumer business • Why live streaming, AI, and social commerce are creating massive opportunities right now • The importance of listening to customers and solving real problems • How embracing change can keep you ahead of the competition

John's story is a powerful reminder that innovation rewards those willing to adapt, experiment, and stay curious.

If you're building a business, reinventing your career, or searching for your next big opportunity, this episode will challenge you to think bigger and move faster.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnpetrocelli

https://bulldogdm.com

What if the biggest thing standing between you and success is the excuse you've been telling yourself?

In this candid conversation, Pat Miller sits down with entrepreneur, author, and security industry veteran Greg Wier to unpack the hard lessons behind building and selling multimillion-dollar companies. From becoming a young father with no money and a failed business to leading a national security empire, Greg shares the unfiltered stories that shaped his journey.

Along the way, he reveals why bad partnerships nearly destroyed him, how work ethic opened doors that education couldn't, and why resilience matters more than talent when building a business that lasts.

Key takeaways: • Why excuses are often the biggest obstacle to success • The costly lessons Greg learned from multiple business partners • How focusing on revenue, relationships, and discipline creates long-term growth

Whether you're launching your first business or navigating the challenges of scaling one, this episode is packed with real-world wisdom from someone who has lived through the highs, lows, lawsuits, setbacks, and victories of entrepreneurship.

Success is rarely luck. It's built one decision, one lesson, and one hard-earned experience at a time. Tune in and discover what's possible when you refuse to quit.

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What if every setback you've survived was actually preparing you for something bigger?

In this special six-month anniversary episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, host Pat Miller steps behind the guest chair and into the spotlight to share the story she's never fully told before. Pat introduces her upcoming book, Underdog to Empire: Breaking Barriers and Building Businesses with Strength, Strategy, and a Sense of Humor, and reads powerful excerpts that reveal the grit, heartbreak, resilience, and determination behind her entrepreneurial journey.

From growing up overlooked and underestimated, to building a construction company with just $100, to rebuilding her life after the loss of her husband and business partner, Pat shares the lessons that shaped both her business and her life.

In this episode:

This episode is a celebration of resilience, entrepreneurship, and the underdog spirit that refuses to quit. If you've ever wondered whether the hard road is worth it, this conversation is for you.

Your story isn't over. Your next chapter might be the one that changes everything.

Success means nothing if you lose yourself chasing it.

In this powerful episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, host Pat Miller sits down with David to unpack the mindset shifts, daily rhythms, and painful life lessons that transformed him from a troubled teenager facing prison into a successful entrepreneur, coach, and mentor helping others unlock their purpose.

David shares the philosophy behind his "B7 Rhythm," a seven-day framework built around motivation, gratitude, forgiveness, intuition, humility, and personal growth. He also opens up about bankruptcy, addiction, family struggles, rebuilding after failure, and why true wealth is about impact, not possessions.

In this episode, you'll learn:

This conversation is a reminder that your past does not define your future. One decision can change everything.

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At 16, Sarah Walton had to choose between feeding her family or chasing her dream. That painful moment shaped her beliefs about money, worth, and success for years until she finally rewrote the story.

In this powerful conversation, host Pat Miller sits down with entrepreneur and coach Sarah Walton to unpack how childhood scarcity can silently control adult success, and how women can reclaim abundance, confidence, and personal power.

Key Takeaways: • How early money trauma shapes your future decisions • Why success without fulfillment feels empty • The small mindset shifts that create real abundance

If you've ever felt stuck between responsibility and your dreams, this episode will remind you that a new path is always possible.

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What happens when you lose everything, trust the wrong people, and still find the strength to rebuild from scratch?

In this powerful episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Chef Kim Leo, founder of Kitchen by Kim Cooks, to unpack her incredible journey from restaurant legacy to bankruptcy, betrayal, Hurricane Sandy, and painful business collapses, all before rising again through grit, faith, and purpose. Kim shares how Covid unexpectedly became her breakthrough, transforming her home kitchen hustle into a thriving business while helping others along the way.

In this episode, you'll discover: • How devastating setbacks can become your greatest redirection • Why bad partnerships can teach your biggest business lessons • The power of resilience, service, and finding purpose beyond profit

This is more than a story about food. It's about survival, reinvention, and proving that your greatest comeback can come after your hardest fall.

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What starts as a side hustle can turn into a life you never imagined.

In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with Alexa Englesbe, founder of Alexa Lynn Photography, to unpack how she went from chasing a career in magazines to building a thriving photography business from the ground up. Through trial, networking, and relentless self-teaching, Alexa turned curiosity into craft—and craft into a full-time career.

From Facebook groups to 26 weddings a year, Alexa shares the real journey behind building a brand in a saturated industry—and what it actually takes to stand out.

In this episode, you'll learn:

If you've ever wondered whether you can build something of your own—this is your sign.

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He looked perfectly healthy—until one test revealed a life-threatening truth at just 30 years old.

In this episode, host Pat Miller sits down with Boomer Anderson, CEO of Smarter Not Harder Inc., who shares how a high-powered career in investment banking led to severe burnout, hidden heart disease, and a complete life pivot. What started as a personal health scare turned into a mission to help entrepreneurs optimize their health, performance, and longevity.

Boomer breaks down why burnout isn't just "in your head," how stress silently destroys your body, and why most health advice online is misleading without personalization.

In this episode, you'll learn:

If you're building a business but neglecting your health, this conversation might just change—and save—your life.

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What if everything you've been told about "following your passion" is wrong?

In this episode, Pat Miller sits down with Courtney Spies, Sales Director at Clark Dietrich, whose career started in the Yellow Pages and evolved into leading a major force in a male-dominated industry. Her journey wasn't driven by passion—it was built through grit, discipline, and the relentless pursuit of mastery. From cold calls to commanding rooms she "wasn't supposed to be in," Courtney proves that success isn't found—it's earned.

In this episode, you'll learn:

Why passion is a byproduct of mastery—not the starting point

How to turn self-doubt into your biggest competitive advantage

The mindset shift that separates underdogs from leaders

If you've ever questioned your path, doubted your ability, or felt like you didn't belong in the room—this conversation will change the way you see everything.

Because success isn't about where you start… it's about how hard you're willing to work to become who you're meant to be.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneyspies

What if the life you want is just one pivot away?

Cameron Philgreen went from shooting hundreds of weddings to building a real estate portfolio of 25+ properties, without using his own money. In this episode, he shares how a single book sparked his journey, how he leveraged the BRRRR method to create passive income, and how he's now scaling a thriving coffee business while protecting what matters most: his time and family.

In this episode, you'll learn:

If you've ever felt stuck trading time for money, this conversation will challenge how you think about freedom, wealth, and what you're really building.

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She built a career helping others find opportunity while overcoming her own fears along the way.

Alka Bahal, partner and chair of Corporate Immigration Services, shares how she went from a shy, introverted law student avoiding the courtroom to a respected leader with nearly 30 years of experience. Along the way, she reveals what it really takes to succeed in law, navigate complex systems, and build a reputation rooted in trust.

In this episode, Alka and Pat dive into the realities of entrepreneurship, the challenges women still face in leadership, and the lessons learned from decades of working with people whose lives are on the line.

Key themes:

If you've ever doubted your path or felt like an underdog, this conversation will remind you what's possible when you keep going.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/alkabahal/

What if the life you built isn't actually yours?

In this episode, Pat Miller sits down with Jane Bond, a high-level strategist who helps successful people confront the truth beneath their achievements. From growing up in the hood to navigating multiple careers across industries, Jane shares how she had to unravel decades of identity to finally discover who she really is.

This conversation dives deep into the hidden cost of success, the pressure of societal expectations, and what it really takes to reinvent yourself without losing everything in the process.

Key Takeaways:

If you've ever felt like something is missing, this episode will challenge you to look inward and rebuild from the truth.

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She chased success and found burnout, then rebuilt everything on her own terms.

Sarah Saffari shares her unconventional path from aspiring doctor to entrepreneur, revealing how a chance encounter while traveling sparked her vision for freedom. From opening a gym that made money but drained her life, to pivoting into marketing and building a global influencer agency, her journey is filled with risks, setbacks, and relentless self-belief.

In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur with host Pat Miller, Sarah breaks down what it really takes to succeed as an entrepreneur and why most people quit too early.

Key themes and takeaways:

If you've ever questioned your path or felt stuck between comfort and ambition, this conversation will push you forward.

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What if the odds stacked against you were actually the beginning of your greatest story?

In this powerful episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, host Pat Miller sits down with author, speaker, and entrepreneur Paul Lamar Hunter, the 19th of 21 children who rose from poverty and homelessness to become the first in his family to graduate from college. Paul shares how rejection, hardship, and being told "no" by the media only fueled his determination to build a legacy of impact.

From growing up in a massive family to honoring a mother who founded Wisconsin's first homeless shelter, Paul's story is a testament to perseverance, faith, and purpose. Today, he inspires the next generation through mentoring, speaking, and podcasting—proving that where you start doesn't determine where you finish.

In this episode, you'll hear about:

If you've ever felt counted out, underestimated, or overlooked—this conversation will remind you that your story isn't over.

Listen now and discover how underdogs become entrepreneurs.

On this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, host Pat Miller sits down with Michael Grinberg, CEO and Founder of The RevOps Shop, to unpack a journey that starts in a tiny Brooklyn apartment and scales into the world of AI, tech, and high-growth entrepreneurship. From selling on eBay at 13 to working at HubSpot and launching his own AI-enabled services firm, Michael shares the sacrifices, risks, and lessons that shaped his path.

Together, Pat and Michael dive into what today's entrepreneurs are getting wrong—and what actually builds lasting success.

In this episode, you'll learn:

This is a conversation about grit, gratitude, relationships, and playing the long game. If you're building something meaningful—or thinking about it—this one's for you.

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www.revops.shop

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sales-and-marketing/

A random conversation in a crowded Nashville bar sparked a career shift that would change everything.

On this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, host Pat Miller sits down with Heather Creech, Marketing and Business Development Manager at Echo Power Electric, to talk about how a former educator found her calling in the blue collar world. From mentoring students to championing workforce development, Heather shares how the trades opened doors she never expected and why more women and young people need to see what is possible.

Together, they dive into:

This conversation is about grit, growth, and giving the next generation more than just options. It is about showing them the path.

If you have ever felt stuck, underestimated, or unsure of your next move, this episode is your reminder that sometimes the path finds you when you least expect it.

Listen in and see what could be waiting on the other side of opportunity.

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What if the greatest business school you ever attended was your father's dinner table?

Steven Padernacht grew up in the Bronx watching his father build a vertically integrated real estate business from the ground up, and those dinner-table deal talks became the foundation of Steven's own two-decade career in real estate. After losing his father at just 27, Steven took the five life lessons his dad left behind and turned them into a blueprint for building wealth, community, and legacy in one of New York's toughest markets.

In this episode, Steven and host Pat Miller dig into the raw, unfiltered truth about entrepreneurship, the wins, the gut-punch losses, and the relentless mindset it takes to show up anyway. From Bronx apartment buildings to New Jersey developments, Steven's story is proof that where you come from doesn't define your ceiling.

Key takeaways from this episode:

If you're an entrepreneur who's ever lost a deal, doubted yourself, or wondered whether it's all worth it, this one's for you. Get back up. Keep going. The windshield is bigger than the rearview mirror for a reason.

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Connect with Steven Padernacht:

Instagram @steve_pad & @padernachtpodcast

What if the path you never planned becomes the one that transforms your life and business?

In this conversation, luxury designer and strategic renovation advisor Rachel Niederhofer shares how she went from corporate finance to building a thriving design, construction-management, and real-estate brand. She opens up about the unexpected turns that shaped her entrepreneurial journey, the power of vision, and why mastering the fundamentals matters more than rushing the process. Rachel also reveals the real truth behind renovations, scaling as an investor, and why collaboration—not shortcuts—is the key to profitable, beautiful spaces.

In this episode, we explore:

Rachel's story is an inspiring reminder that purpose evolves, skills compound, and the road to success rarely looks like the plan. Tune in and take the next step on your own entrepreneurial journey.

Connect with Rachel Niederhofer: • Instagram: @audaciousdesigns • @returnondesign • LinkedIn: Rachel Niederhofer • Website: audaciousdesigns.design

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What if the money you leave your kids actually ruins them?

In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, Pat Miller sits down with nationally recognized estate planning attorney Blake Johnson to unpack why traditional inheritance often creates entitlement—and how intentional legacy planning builds stronger families instead. Blake shares his journey from working alongside his father to buying him out, scaling a multi-state law firm, and developing the Family Bank Method, a framework designed to teach responsibility, not dependency.

Together, they dive into what it really means to build wealth that lasts, how entrepreneurs must evolve from survival mode to leadership, and why values matter more than money when building a business… or a family legacy.

In this episode, you'll learn:

If you care about building wealth and raising capable, grounded humans, this episode will change how you think about success, money, and legacy.

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Connect with Blake Johnson:

https://yourfb.com/

https://trustedepa.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/trustedepa/

What if the fight that almost broke you became the discipline that built your success?

In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, host Pat Miller sits down with business development coach, former Golden Gloves champion, and podcast host Ron Marvo to unpack a journey shaped by resilience, grit, and relentless curiosity. From a life-altering childhood crisis to championship boxing and ultimately building a scalable business development framework, Ron shares how discipline, trust, and asking better questions can change everything.

Together, Pat and Ron break down what separates transactional selling from true business leadership—and why the best entrepreneurs stop chasing deals and start becoming the most trusted resource in the room.

Key takeaways from this episode:

If you're an underdog with a vision—and the courage to bet on yourself—this episode will challenge you to step into the ring and build something that lasts.

What if success wasn't about closing deals—but about eliminating the option to quit?

In this episode, real estate coach, investor, and author Josh Cadillac joins host Pat Miller to break down what it really means to build a business that lasts. From being raised in entrepreneurship at age nine, to losing everything in the 2008 crash, Josh shares how underdogs win—by outworking, outlasting, and outthinking the competition. Together, Pat and Josh unpack the mindset shifts, discipline, and systems required to turn clients into lifelong relationships and chaos into momentum.

Key takeaways include:

If you're building something from the ground up—and refusing to take the off-ramp—this conversation will remind you why underdogs win more often than anyone expects.

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What if the setback you're facing right now is actually your greatest opportunity?

In this episode, host Pat Miller sits down with entrepreneur, manufacturer, and mentor Rosemary Cescolini to unpack a powerful journey that began in teaching and evolved into building a multi-generation construction and manufacturing legacy. From learning the shop floor in a male-dominated industry to growing over 200 product designs and mentoring the next wave of entrepreneurs, Rosemary shares what it really takes to pivot, lead, and endure.

Key themes include:

If you're standing at a crossroads in your career—or wondering how to turn experience into impact—this conversation will challenge you to lift your head, stay ready, and move when opportunity shows up.

Connect with Rosemary: 🌐 onlywomenentrepreneurs.com

Instagram: @rosemarycescolini @onlywomenentrepreneurs Tiktok only.women.entrep FB Only Women Entrepreneurs LinkedIn Rosemary Cescolini LinkedIN OWE

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What happens when a lawyer stops thinking like a prosecutor—and starts thinking like a business owner?

In this episode, Pat Miller sits down with Damian Conforti, a former prosecutor turned trusted corporate counsel, to unpack what it really means to practice the business of law. Damian shares how relearning law through an entrepreneurial lens transformed the way he advises CEOs, founders, and leadership teams facing real-world operational and governance challenges.

Rather than just reacting to legal problems, Damian explains why the most valuable counsel anticipates risk, understands the business inside and out, and empowers leaders to make smarter decisions—before issues ever reach the courtroom.

In this conversation, you'll hear about:

If you're a founder, executive, or advisor navigating high-stakes decisions, this episode will change how you think about law, leadership, and long-term strategy. Press play and start thinking like both an owner and a lawyer.

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A heart attack, a bankruptcy, and a lifetime of grit pushed Dan Sachkowsky to rebuild himself—and redefine what success really means.

In this powerful conversation, Dan ("Big D") opens up about humble beginnings, multimillion-dollar wins, losing everything, and the wake-up call that turned pain into purpose. He and host Pat Miller dive deep into what it really takes to grow a business, lead with integrity, and build a life that actually matters.

In this episode, you'll learn:

Dan's journey is a reminder that success isn't what you have—it's who you become. Lean in, get inspired, and let this episode push you toward the life you know you're meant to build.

Website: DanSachkowsky.com Instagram: big_dan_official Podcast: Big D Podcast LinkedIn: Dan Sachkowsky

Instagram: thepatmiller11 Website: patmiller.net

What happens when life forces you to reinvent yourself?

In this episode, Pat sits down with Chris Graffagnino — Army Veteran, Purple Heart Recipient, and Founder of Graff Global — to talk about how an unexpected injury and an unshakable instinct led him from law enforcement to building an international risk management enterprise. Chris opens up about betting on himself, navigating unknowns, losing friends along the way, and why complacency is the enemy of progress.

Key Themes:

Chris's journey is proof that the underdog can win — if they're willing to leap, learn, and keep climbing. Tune in and get inspired to take your next step.

✨ Connect with Chris Graffagnino LinkedIn: Chris Graffagnino

✨ Connect with Pat Miller Instagram: @thepatmiller11 Website: patmiller.net

Most people run from the hard road — Ron Nussbaum runs toward it.

In this episode, Pat sits down with Marine veteran, software founder, and Construction Champions podcast host Ron Nussbaum to talk about what it really means to start from nothing and build a life you're proud of. Ron shares how the underdog mindset shaped his journey from working his way up in construction, to walking away from the "safe path," to launching his own software company and mission-driven work supporting veterans.

In this episode, we cover:

This is a conversation about grit, clarity, faith, and finding the courage to build the life you were actually meant to live — not the one you settled for.

Lean in and get inspired to take your next step.

Connect with Ron Nussbaum: Construction Champions Podcast BuilderComs: https://buildercoms.com

Connect with Pat Miller: Instagram: @thepatmiller11 Website: https://patmiller.net

When life gave her no choice but to rise, Lena Piccininni built a career—and a legacy—out of pure grit.

In this episode, Lena shares how losing her father at 17 forced her into survival mode, eventually leading her into the male-dominated world of barbering where she had to earn every ounce of respect. From teaching nationwide with Pacinos, to building a loyal client base from scratch, to launching her own product line Manan Haircare, Lena reveals how confidence, resilience, and relentless work ethic transformed her from an underdog into a thriving entrepreneur. She also opens up about balancing motherhood, running a studio, and scaling a brand that's now carried in salons across multiple states.

Key Takeaways:

Lena's story is a reminder that strength is born in the hardest seasons—and that anyone willing to outwork their circumstances can build something extraordinary.

Website: mananbeauty.com Instagram: @lenapiccininni | @manan_haircare Email: lenapiccininni@gmail.com

Instagram: @thepatmiller11 Website: patmiller.net

What if your side hustle on a school bus became a coastal lifestyle brand?

In this episode, Pat Miller sits down with Tomas Gesumaria, founder of East Waves Surf Co., to unpack how a high school passion for social media grew into a thriving East Coast surf community and apparel line. From screen-printing in his mom's garage to partnering with surf shops and breweries across the coast, Tomas shares the real story behind the grind—turning unemployment checks into opportunity and fear into fuel.

Key themes:

Dive in for a conversation about grit, growth, and the wave of entrepreneurship that starts with a single spark.

✨ Connect with Tomas Gesumaria: Website: eastwavesco.com Instagram: @tomasgesu | @eastwaves | @eastwavesco | @eastwavesprintingco LinkedIn: Tomas Gesumaria

✨ Connect with Pat Miller: Instagram: @thepatmiller11 Website: patmiller.net

What if being overlooked was actually your greatest advantage?

In this solo episode, host Pat Miller shares her powerful journey from loss and survival to resilience and success. Starting with just $100 and a relentless will to provide for her family, Pat reveals how being an underdog has shaped her path as an entrepreneur—and why your disadvantages can become the very foundation of your success.

You'll discover:

Pat's story is proof that you don't need permission to build your dream—you just need grit, clarity, and the courage to keep moving forward. If she can do it, so can you.

✨ Connect with Pat Miller:

Website: patmiller.net@thepatmiller11 on FB, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricia-pat-miller-72492666/