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这期节目我们分享韩国导演李沧东的1999年的电影「薄荷糖」与瑞典导演伯格曼 1957 年的「野草莓」。

这期节目的编辑推荐是

美剧 Dark，Netflix

电影 Paterson，Jim Jarmusch

电影 Perfect Days，Wim Wenders

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这期调戏栏目我们分享古希腊悲剧作家 Sophocles 的经典名作 Oedipus Rex「俄狄浦斯王」，我们观看的是 1957 年 Tyrone Guthrie 制作的版本。

Youtube 资源

本期节目的编辑推荐是

美剧 Fallout 辐射 第一季

非虚构 「燕食记」，葛亮

非虚构 Magus by Anthony Grafton

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这期误读会我们分享 Joseph Conrad 的代表作「黑暗的心」The Heart of Darkness 链接

这本书是科波拉导演的电影「现代启示录」Apocalypse Now 的原作 链接

另外一个更忠实原著的同名电影「黑暗的心」链接

关于当代对「黑暗的心」的批评，大家可以参考

Achebe, Chinua. "An Image of Africa: Racism in Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness'" 链接

Said, Edward. "Two Visions in Heart of Darkness" 链接

最后推荐的 David Denby 观察哥伦比亚大学学生讨论「黑暗的心」的文章：The Trouble with Heart of Darkness 链接

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这期三刷节目我们分享的东方电影是

1992年高志森导演的香港贺岁片「家有囍事」

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1300064/

西方电影是1986年法国导演让-雅克·阿诺的「玫瑰之名」

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1294634/

节目中提到的其他作品有

Youtube Channel Mo Moments by 毛舜筠

https://www.youtube.com/@MoMomentsTeam

Youtube Channel 藍嬌雙寶 by 蓝心湄和宝妈

https://youtu.be/cQRd58psylE?si=TfdeIasmi9XxMtD0

Youtube Channel The Do Show by 郑裕玲

https://www.youtube.com/@TheDoShow0909

电影「金手指」，庄文强

https://movie.douban.com/subject/35074609/

电影「审死官」，周星驰主演

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1305355/

电影「鹿鼎记」，周星驰主演

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1297223/

小说 The Name of the Rose「玫瑰之名」, Umberto Eco/ 沈萼梅 / 刘锡荣

https://book.douban.com/subject/3836566//

其他让-雅克·阿诺的作品有：

电影「情人」https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291868/

电影「」

电影「熊的故事」

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1300334/

电影「狼图腾」

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3993588/

编辑推荐

英剧 Slow Horses「流人」第三季

https://movie.douban.com/subject/35918976/

非虚构「埃隆·马斯克传」, Walter Issacson

https://book.douban.com/subject/36518892/

英剧「万物生灵」

https://movie.douban.com/subject/34446269/

文学期刊 The Drift

https://www.youtube.com/@TheDoShow0909

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在巴以冲突再次不幸占据了大部分国际新闻版面的2023年末，我们和大家分享一本迅值得一读的当代小说，爱尔兰/美国作家科伦·麦凯恩 Collun McCann 的 《无极形》Apeirogon。

这期节目的编辑推荐有

Podcast 加州 101

Alan Resnais 的纪录片夜与雾 Nuit et Brouillard

英剧 诺言 The Promise

历史教材History of the Modern Middle East

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这期三刷我们重温的西方电影是 Agnes Varda 的 Mur Murs；东方电影是侯孝贤的「悲情城市」，主要是在梁朝伟获得了威尼斯电影节终身成就奖之后回顾一下他文艺电影的原点。

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1294194/

https://movie.douban.com/subject/2238785/

编辑推荐包括：

自然写作的经典「游隼」The Peregrine https://book.douban.com/subject/36175314/

北岛的「必有人重写爱情」https://book.douban.com/subject/35817787/

历史传记「青年王阳明」杜维明 https://book.douban.com/subject/27104768/

同样一本写王阳明的「入圣之机」，陈立胜 https://book.douban.com/subject/30302916/

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这期误读会我们破例分享一本非虚构作品，诺贝尔文学奖得主切斯瓦夫·米沃什（Czesław Miłosz）出圈的成名作「被禁锢的头脑」（The Captive Mind）。

节目中提到的作品包括

非虚构「被禁锢的头脑」

以及一下米沃什的作品：

米沃什词典

米沃什诗选

乌尔罗地

旧金山海湾景象

诗的见证

另外提到的之前一期误读会聊：

Arthur Koestler 的「中午的黑暗」

编辑推荐是

电影「风再起时」

非虚构「迷样的人生」

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本期节目分享莎翁名著 Romeo and Juliet。因为已经是第好多次分享莎士比亚的剧作，我们就不在赘述剧作家的背景信息。关于莎翁和莎翁的时代，大家可以参看 Folger Shakespear Library 收藏的丰富的史料和研究成果。

我们观看的影像版本是 2009 年在伦敦 Shakespear Globe Theatre 上演的版本，大家可以在 B 站上看到字幕版本。

本次编辑推荐，Gigi 推荐大家选读「西厢记」中张生翻墙去看崔莺莺的桥段，方老板推荐大家阅读 Stephen Greenblatt 的 Will in the World: How Shakespeare Became Shakespeare，大陆译本叫「俗世威尔」，糯米推荐的是 Other Voices 系列出版。

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这周我们分享纪录片「人生七年系列」，英文名字叫 The Up Series。它的第一集 7 Up 是 1964 年由两位电影制作人 Michael Apted, Paul Almond 共同制作的，从第二集开始由 Michael Apted 独立完成，每七年一次，跟踪采访 14 位 1957 年英国出生的人，最新一期完成于 2019 年，是整个系列的第 9 集。这个系列虽然在全球有很多模仿者，甚至包括前苏联的 Born in the USSR 系列，它至今依然是跨度最长，也是影像最大的。Roger Ebert 将它列为影史 10 大片之一。

「人生七年」国内观众可以通过 Bilibili 免费观看

英国观众可以通过 ITVX 免费观看

这周的编辑推荐：

非虚构：「不平等的童年：阶级、种族与家庭生活」，安妮特·拉鲁

非虚构：「孤独的力量」，尼采、叔本华、卢梭、爱默生、歌德、卡夫卡、司汤达等

纵向研究：British Social Attitudes https://bsa.natcen.ac.uk/

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本期节目我们分享百老汇最经典的音乐剧之一 Leonard Berstein 1957 年作曲的 West Side Story 「西城故事」。我们观看的版本是 2021 年斯皮尔伯格拍摄的电影版本，但同时我们也有提到 1961 年拿到 10 项奥斯卡奖的电影版本。

编辑推荐

1996 年小李子主演的电影「罗米尔与朱丽叶」

美剧「熊家餐馆」第二季

小说 A Little Life by Hanya Yanagihara

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大家好！非常抱歉我们等了这么长时间才再次恢复录音，原因是最近修了两个月的陪产假，希望现在可以陆续恢复之前出节目的节奏。

这周我们的误读会分享最近辞世的日本作家大江健三郎的代表作「万延元年的足球队」。这本书的英文译本叫 The Silent Cry。

我们的编辑推荐是：班宇担任艺术指导的电视剧「漫长的季节」，美国天体物理学家 Neil deGrass Tyson 的「星际信使： 宇宙视角下的人类文明」，还有美国记者 James Reston Jr. 写的一本伽利略的传记「Galileo: A Life」。

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本期节目分享法国导演阿兰·雷奈 Alain Resnais 的第一部故事长片「广岛之恋」Hiroshima Mon Amour 以及李安 2000 年的当代经典「卧虎藏龙」Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

节目中提到的作品有：

Resnais 的早期艺术短片：「梵高」「高更」「格尔尼卡」

奥斯维辛纪录片片：「夜与雾」（1955）

剧情长片 「广岛之恋」（1959）、「去年在马伦巴」（1961））

玛格丽特·杜拉斯的小说「情人」

莫文蔚和张洪量的歌曲「广岛之恋」

普里莫·莱维的回忆录「如果这是一个人」（文化土豆Unpack曾经分享过）

李安的电影

卧虎藏龙（2000）

断背山（2005）

比利·林恩的中场战事（2016）

谭盾为「卧虎藏龙」编曲的电影原声碟

马丁·麦克唐纳的电影「伊尼舍林的女妖」（2022）

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这期误读会我们分享 Graham Greene 的 The Power and the Glory 「权力与荣耀」

（节目里忘记说明）书名来自于天主教的主祷文最后一句“国度、权柄、荣耀，全属于你”

这周的编辑推荐是：

综艺：种地吧，爱奇艺

视频：王刚拜师学鲁菜, YouTube

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这期调戏栏目我们分享 1950 年代新英国剧场的一部代表作品，19 岁的女剧作家 Shelagh Delaney 的代表作 A Taste of Honey，这部剧讲述了一对“风尘母女”相互逃离又相互依赖的故事。

节目中聊到的作品信息：

话剧 A Taste of Honey, ntathome.com

剧本文献 A Taste of Honey, 大英图书馆

编辑推荐

美剧 Poker Face, Peacock

非虚构 Hayek: A Life 1899-1950, Bruce Caldwell and Hansjoerg Klausinger

电影 France, Bruno Dumont 导演，Léa Seydoux 领衔主演

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这周我们分享的两部动画片经典：

Fantasia (1940), Disney

新世纪福音战士剧场版（1997），庵野秀明

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新年好！兔年第一期误读会分享 Paulo Coehlo 保罗·柯艾略的「牧羊少年奇幻之旅」The Alchemist。

节目中提到的作品：

小说「牧羊少年奇幻之旅」，保罗·柯艾略

小说「小王子」，圣-埃克苏佩里 

小说 「维罗妮卡决定去死」，保罗·柯艾略

小说「朝圣」，保罗·柯艾略

让我们一起误读阿西莫夫的「基地」，阿西莫夫

编辑推荐

剧集「狂飙」

剧集「舞伎家的料理人」，是枝裕和

网站 https://furnaceandfugue.org/

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这期节目益康糯米和OpenAI的人工智能聊天软件ChatGPT展开了一场高端论坛，因为ChatGPT偶尔话唠，有少量剪辑，原版对话请见 culturepotato.com 网页版会员通讯专页。

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这期调戏栏目我们分享德国作家 Georg Büchner (1813-1837) 的代表作 Dantons Tod 「丹东之死」(1835)

我们观看的 1963 年电视版歌剧录像是根据 Gottfried von Einem 的歌剧重拍的：

YouTube 🔗

Bilibili 🔗

Büchner 的作品有：

杂文：Der hessische Landbote

话剧：丹东之死 Dantons Tod

话剧：莱昂斯和莱娜 Leonce und Lena

话剧：Woyzek

根据 Woyzek 改编的：

赫尔佐格导演的电影：Woyzek (1979), Wener Herzog 🔗

Alban Berg 改编的歌剧：Wozzeck, 1988 年维也纳国家歌剧院版本 🔗

节目中提到的法国文化大革命相关书籍

Hilary Mantel: A place of greater safety ()

Thomas Carlyle: The French Revolution ()

Edmund Burke: Reflections on The French Revolution ()

Victor Hugo: Ninety-Three ()

Charles Dickens: A Tale of Two Cities ()

🎄圣诞编辑推荐🎄

英剧 A Spy Among Friends 敌友难辨, ITVX 🔗

英剧 Slow Horses Season 2 流人第二季, AppleTV+ 🔗

英剧 Motherland 我的妈啊, Netflix 🔗

电影 Dangerous Liaison 危险关系 (1988)，约翰·马尔科维奇... 🔗

纪录片剧集 Welcome to Wrexham 欢迎来到雷克斯汉姆，🔗

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这周我们分享今年诺贝尔文学奖得主，法国作家 Annie Ernaux 安妮·埃尔诺的代表作 Les années / 悠悠岁月 / The Years。

节目中提到的作品信息

自传小说：悠悠岁月，埃尔诺 🔗

埃尔诺母子合拍的纪录片：超八岁月 Les années Super-8 🔗

据埃尔诺同名小说改编的电影：A Simple Passion 🔗

据埃尔诺小说 L'événement 改编的电影 Happening 🔗

小说：岁月 The Years，弗吉尼亚伍尔夫 🔗

美剧：1899，Netflix 🔗

文化土豆给Jon Snow电大话，🔗

非虚构：碌碌有为，王笛 🔗

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节目中提到的作品信息

文化土豆之前讨论黑泽明的「梦」🔗

电影「罗生门」，黑泽明 f🔗

电影「美国往事」，莱昂内 🔗

短篇故事「竹林中」，芥川龙之介 🔗

短篇故事「罗生门」，芥川龙之介🔗

回忆录「蛤蟆的油」，黑泽明 🔗

视频 The Death of American Gangster Film, Eyebrow Cinema 🔗

论文 Memory of Defeat in Japan: A Reappraisal of Rashomon 🔗

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这周我们分享美国剧作家爱德华·阿尔比 Edward Albee 1962 年的代表作 Who's Afriad of Virginia Woolf? 谁害怕弗吉尼亚伍尔夫？英国作家名字的出现和这部话剧的荒诞风格一样是没有理由的，一个更合适的标题也许是把咱们分享过的尤金奥尼尔的那部话剧名字颠倒过来：A Long Night's Journey Into The Day。

节目中提到的作品和其他信息：

Who's Afriad of Virginia Woolf? NTLive

剧作家的基金会：The Edward F Albee Foundation 官网

我们提到的Albee的作品还有：

The Seascape (1975)

The Goat; or, Who Is Sylvia (2022)

The Play About the Baby (1998)

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节目中提到的作品信息

小说：「起初·纪年」，王朔

文化土豆聊王朔的「顽主」

记录汉武帝历史的一些文献：

史记·孝武本纪

汉书·武帝纪

资治通鉴·十七卷起

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这周我们三刷的东方电影是谢晋的代表作「芙蓉镇」，一直是主播最喜欢的国产电影之一，也是和嘉宾说了好久要录制的，这是在相对宽松的 1980 年代，谢晋根据作家古华的同名小说翻拍的一部电影，讲述了在山区农村的一位做小买卖的妇女从1963年到粉碎四人帮期间的创业、婚姻、挨整再到平反的艰辛历程；西方电影这回风格迥异，是二战期间卓别林拍摄的「大独裁者」The Great Dictator，在看似架空的历史故事里，卓别林一人分饰两角，分别扮演了原型基于希特勒的「大独裁者」和一位生活在他“光辉统治”下的犹太人理发师的双线索故事。

节目中提到的作品信息

电影「芙蓉镇」完整版 YouTube

电影「大独裁者」豆瓣资源

节目中提到的文革电影

阳光灿烂的日子 - 姜文1994

活着 - 张艺谋 1994

芙蓉镇 - 谢晋 1986

蓝风筝 - 田壮壮 1993

山楂树 - 张艺谋 2010

孩子王 - 陈凯歌/阿城 1987

霸王别姬 - 陈凯歌 1993

太阳照常升起 - 姜文 2007

天浴 - 陈冲/严歌苓 1998

归来 - 张艺谋/严歌苓 2014

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这周我们分享英国剧作家 Mike Bartlett 2014 年的话剧 King Charles III，这部作品的历史背景正好是我们目睹的英国王位因伊丽莎白二世逝世世袭给王储查尔斯亲王，但是在这部虚构的作品中，我们看到查尔斯三世上位后立刻经历了英国王室百年来最重大的一次宪政危机。

节目中提到的作品包括

话剧：King Charles III，Mike Bartlett

英剧：Doctor Foster，Mike Bartlett

话剧：Earthquakes in London, Mike Bartlett

话剧：Game，Mike Bartlett

英剧： Hollow Crown，BBC

英剧：The Crown 王冠，Netflix

编辑推荐

MV: The Queen is Dead, The Smiths，导演 Derek Jarman

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这期误读会我们分享智利作家 Roberto Bolaño 波拉尼奥的成名作「荒野侦探」Los Detectives Salvajes / The Savage Detectives。

节目中提到的作品信息：

小说

荒野侦探，波拉尼奥

小说

2666，波拉尼奥

小说

智利之夜，波拉尼奥

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这周调戏栏目我们回顾最近辞世的英国话剧导演 Peter Brooks 1985 年的代表作，也是他根据印度史诗 Mahabharata「摩诃婆罗多」改编的同名话剧。

节目中提到的作品信息

「摩诃婆罗多」电视录像版

https://youtu.be/qlsmROjcLBk

原文中文译本

https://book.douban.com/subject/1736919/

Peter Brooks 纪录片 Brook on Brook

https://youtu.be/JA9cuQagp78

Baghavat Gita/薄伽梵歌

https://book.douban.com/subject/1763757/

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这周我们分享两部值得三刷的电影，西方电影是1964年帕索里尼的代表作「马太福音」，可以作为一部的耶稣传记片观看，另外一部东方电影是印度和英国合拍的1982年奥斯卡奖得主「甘地传」，导演是理查德·阿滕伯勒。

节目中提到的作品和其他信息：

马太福音/The Gospel According to St Mathew，Pasolini 帕索里尼

甘地传/Gandhi，Richard Attenborough

Salo/索多玛的120天，帕索里尼

帕索里尼的其他作品清单

奥维尔写甘地，巴黎评论

罗曼·罗兰的「甘地传」

Louis Fischer 的「甘地传」

甘地与托尔斯泰的关系

文化土豆最近一些节目都和英国殖民、印度宗教有关：

库切的等待野蛮人

黑塞的悉达多

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这周我们分享 NT Live 一步口碑很好的话剧「雷曼兄弟三部曲」，英文名字是 The Lehman Trilogy，虽说是三部曲，其实是一部三幕剧，每一幕一个钟头，讲述了南北战争前从德国移民美国的犹太人三兄弟和他们子孙后代在美国发展的故事，从一家小卖部经营到2008年金融危机前夕是华尔街如雷贯耳的投资银行，这部剧的三位主演分别是 Adam Godley, Simon Russel Beale 和 Ben Miles，导演 Sam Mendes，剧本是由 Ben Powers 从意大利作家 Stefano Massini 的同名诗歌小说改编。

节目中提到的作品信息：

The Lehman Trilogy,NTLive

在线播放链接

雷曼三部曲原文，Stefano Massin

调戏话剧 Medea，文化土豆

英剧 「空王冠」Hollow Crown，Ben Power 制片

Patrick Stewart 版本的「李尔王」：King of Texas

英剧「连带伤害」 Collateral，David Hare 编剧

调戏话剧 Yerma，文化土豆

话剧 Enron, Lucy Prebble

电影「华尔街之狼」The Wolf of Wall Street，斯科塞斯

电影 「洗钱风云」 Laudromat，Netflix

电影 「美国往事」Once Upon a Time in America，Sergio Leone

虚构 「美国牧歌」American Pastoral，飞利浦·罗斯

编辑推荐

非虚构：地中海与菲利普二世时代的地中海世界，费尔南·布罗代尔

非虚构，远方之镜，芭芭拉·塔奇曼

纪录片，「参与其中」The Offer， Paramount+

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南非作家 JM Coetzee 库切是可能是得奖最多的在世的英文作家，这期误读会我们分享他1980年的成名作，Waiting for Barbarians，「等待野蛮人」。

节目中提到的作品信息

小说「等待野蛮人」Waiting for Barbarians，库切 🔗

小说「耻」Disgrace，库切 🔗

电影「查理和巧克力工厂」，Johnny Depp 🔗

电影「剪刀手爱德华」, Johnny Depp 🔗

电影「信条」Tenet，Christopher Nolan 🔗

小说「人性的污秽」Human Stain，菲利浦·罗斯 🔗

电影「人性的污点」Human Stain，Robert Benton 🔗

社会思想委员会的书单 🔗

编辑推荐

美剧 「流人」Slow Horses，Apple TV+ 🔗

电影 「战前童年」The Childhood of a Leader，Brady Corbet，🔗

电影 「安可玛莎」，宋康欣 🔗

电影「等待野蛮人」，Ciro Guerra 🔗

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这期 Unpack 节目免费开放，伯爵益康糯米和大公主艺术家叶甫纳和民间艺术研究者一起分享一下李一凡导演的纪录片「杀马特我爱你」。

纪录片「杀马特我爱你」，李一凡

https://www.bilibili.com/s/video/BV1ob4y1d7un

艺术家叶甫纳的主页

http://funaye.com

艺术家叶甫纳的 Instagram @oyster

叶甫纳在 Hoxton Books 的分享会记录

https://youtu.be/dszgixMU1z8

Vice 的杀马特记录片

https://youtu.be/gVKjwc5Cx-U

纪录片「三和大神」，NHK

https://youtu.be/eGvbLpBVgbU

纪录片「摇摇晃晃的人间」，范俭

https://movie.douban.com/subject/26324232/

华语电影放映组织 SineScreen

https://www.instagram.com/sine_screen

QueerEast 电影节

https://queereast.org.uk

短片 晓迪 Xiaodi，陈军米 / 高国

https://movie.douban.com/subject/35465019/

罗福兴的抖音账号 @罗福兴

美食博主泥土的清香

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRiI8SGGqKRI23IuCI-i6cQ

美食博主@赳赳在努力，抖音

杀马特土味视频@三炮表哥，抖音

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这期三刷我们分享跳戏王家卫的「春光乍泄」 和 Merchant Ivory 的「看得见风景的房间」。

节目中提到的王家卫作品包括

春光乍泄

东邪西毒

一代宗师

阿飞正传

堕落天使

节目中提到的 Merchant Ivory 的作品包括

看得见风景的房间 A room with a view

霍华德庄园 Howard's End

长日将尽 Remains of the day

莫里斯 Maurice

以你的名字呼唤我 Call me by your name

提到的其他电影作品有

霸王别姬

故园风雨后

提到的 E. M. Foster 福斯特的作品除了上面提到的同名电影「房间」和「庄园」之外还有

印度之行 A passage to India

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这期节目分享英国战后杰出的社会议题剧作家/导演戴维·黑尔 Sir David Hare 在新冠疫情期间以自己亲身经历编导的一部独角戏 Beat The Devil，拉尔夫·费因斯主演。

节目中提到的 David Hare 的作品有：

话剧录像 Beat the devil, David Hare 编导 YouTube 可看

电影 「时时刻刻」The Hours, David Hare 编剧 豆瓣

电影 「朗读者」The Reader, David Hare 豆瓣

NTLive 「天窗」Skylight, David Hare 编剧 豆瓣

英剧 「弃之不理」Roadkill, David Hare 编剧 豆瓣

话剧 Via Dolorosa, Dave Hare 编剧 出版社官网

NTLive: Straight Line Crazy, David Hare 编剧 官网

非虚构 「论晚期风格」On Late Style, 爱德华·萨义德 豆瓣

话剧 The Breath of wife, David Hare 编剧 出版社官网

非虚构 「贝多芬：阿多诺的音乐哲学」，Theodor Adorno 豆瓣

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这次我们分享一部被誉为史上最厉害的反战小说，他是美国小说家 Kurt Vonnegut 冯内古特 1969 年出版的Slaughterhouse-Five 「五号屠场」。

节目中提到相关信息:

文化土豆第一次聊冯内古特的作品是「时震」Timequake，大家可以参考那一期节目中对于作者生平的介绍，这次节目就不再重复：链接

小说「五号屠场」，冯内古特

小说「时震」，冯内古特

张宇凌提到的艺术史学家温克尔曼的著作是「希腊人的艺术」

德累斯顿收藏了古典大师绘画的博物馆是茨温格宫

这期节目我们中途放弃阅读的小说是 James Salter 的「光年」

文化土豆聊过一战讽刺小说「好兵帅克」链接

彩色二战纪录片纪录片WWII In Colour有一集是关于德累斯顿 链接

非虚构「给青年诗人的信」，里尔克

电影「信条」Tenet，Christopher Nolan

小说「你一生的故事」，Ted Chiang（电影「降临」的原著）

编辑推荐：

非虚构：「巴巴罗萨行动，1941绝对战争」Barbarossa: 1941. La guerre absolue, Jean Lopez, Lasha Otkhmezuri

中剧「天下粮仓」

中剧「北平无战事」

美剧「城市主宰」We Own This City，HBO

美剧「人生切割术」Severance，Apple TV+

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这期节目是4月5日上海时间8PM与几位土豆的嘉宾主播临时决定的夜聊。

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这次我们三刷两部充满了个人特色的纪录片，一部是1929年维尔托夫（Dziga Vertov）主要在基辅拍摄的「持摄像机的人」，第二部是1972年安东尼奥尼（Michelangelo Antonioni）在中国拍摄的「中国」。

节目中提到的作品信息：

纪录片「持摄影机的人」Man with Movie Camera ，维尔托夫

纪录片「中国」Chun Kuo/Cina，安东尼奥尼

记录片「意志的胜利」Triumph of the Will，莱妮·里芬施塔尔

展览 Infinity Mirror Rooms, Tate Modern, 草间弥生

维尔托夫的22部 Kinok Pravda，奥地利电影博物馆

文化土豆聊安东尼奥尼的「扎布里斯基角」

安东尼奥尼的疏离/爱情四部曲包括：「奇遇」、「夜」、「蚀」、「红色沙漠」，他的“革命圣地旅游”三部曲包括：「放大」、「扎布里斯基角」、「中国」

文集「中国人民不可侮」

艾科 Umberto Eco 评论「中国」的文章 The Difficulty of Being Marco Polo

文章「最后的针刺麻醉」，温江

文章「二十世纪七十年代电影《中国》引起的风波」，陈东林

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这期调戏我们分享莎翁名剧「麦克白」！

节目中提到的信息有：

莎翁的四大悲剧是：

哈姆雷特 Hamlet

奥赛罗 Othello

麦克白 Macbeth

李尔王 King Lear

我们提到的麦克白版本分别有：

一锤定音的甘道夫版: Ian McKellan & Judi Dench 饰演，Trevor Nunn 导演，RSC 1979 制作 YouTube🔗

服化道惊人但是表演无力的 Apple TV 版：Denzel Washington & Frances McDormand 饰演，Joel Coen 导演，A24 2021 制作 A24🔗

NTLive 泥地版：Ken Branagh & Alex Kingston 饰演，Rob Ashford 导演，曼切斯特国际艺术界制 2013 制作 imdb🔗

波兰斯基电影写实版：John Finch & Francesca Annis 饰演，Roman Polanski 导演，1971 imdb🔗

此外我们还提到了中戏鲍国安版、费雯丽/Olivier版、Christopher Eccleston RSC版、黑泽明日本版、Rory Kinnear/Ann-Marie Duff版、奥森·威尔斯版……

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这期文化土豆，主播益康糯米与在伦敦工作的乌克兰工程师 Ahmed 和他的华人伴侣 Lanyi 促膝而谈过去 10 日发生在乌克兰的战事，以及 Ahmed 家人的近况，还有他们的想法。这期节目几乎没有任何剪辑，为的就是呈现我们聊天的全貌。背景里的一些噪音来自于借住在主播家的小狗，后来我得知，Ahmed 的父母和妹妹，在三十多个小时逃离基辅的路途中，也带着他们家另外两个动物成员，一只小鸡娃娃和一只仓鼠。节目标题前两句出自「祭侄文稿」中的："贼臣不救，孤城围逼。父陷子死，巢倾卵覆。天不悔祸，谁为荼毒？"，谨以表达主播自己在过去几天的情绪。

In this episode, the host discusses the Ukrainian crisis with a London based Ukrainian programmer Ahmed and his Chinese partner Lanyi.

另外主播新的微博账号是这里

为了帮助大家理解，我用 Otter.AI 和 谷歌翻译 整理了节目中的英文内容和对应的翻译（点击这里访问），肯定还会有很多不准确和完全翻译错误的地方，但是总比没有要强，请多包涵。

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本期误读会我们分享德国作家，1946年诺奖获得者 Hermann Hesse 赫尔曼·黑塞的代表作 Siddhartha 「悉达多」，也有翻译是「流浪者之歌」。这是一个生活在释迦摩尼（乔答摩·悉达多）年代古印度的贵族青年，他与乔达摩同名，也叫悉达多，而且他们的相似之处还并不止于此。

节目中提到的作品

小说「悉达多」，黑塞

古籍「金刚经」，鸠摩罗什 译

古籍「奥义书」，黄宝生 译

节目中还提到的两期误读会节目：

误读「罪与罚」上集、下集

误读「失明症漫记」

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这周我们三刷的两部电影碰巧都是不太寻常的“公路电影”，第一部是九十年代北野武的金狮奖获奖作品「花火」，第二部是六十年代开启了美国新浪潮的电影，Arthur Penn 阿瑟·佩恩导演的 Bonnie and Clyde 「雌雄大盗」。

节目中提到的作品信息：

电影「花火」，北野武

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1302642/

电影「菊次郎的夏天」，北野武

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293359/

电影「那年夏天，宁静的海」，北野武

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1295815/

电影「坏孩子的天空」，北野武

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1299062/

非虚构「北野武的小酒馆」，北野武

https://book.douban.com/subject/27174130/

电影「雌雄大盗」， 阿瑟·佩恩

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1294584/

一个更早也不错的 Bonnie and Clyde 版本是 1937 年 Fritz Lang 拍摄的 You Only Live Once

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029808/

1967 年「纽约客」杂志的影评人 Pauline Kael 写了一篇很有名的 Bonnie and Clyde 的影评

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1967/10/21/bonnie-and-clyde

另外一位当年就赞赏 Bonnie and Clyde 的影评人是 Roger Ebert

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/bonnie-and-clyde-1967

电影「音乐之声」，罗伯特·怀斯

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1294408/

美剧「劫匪」The Highwaymen, Netflix

https://movie.douban.com/subject/6538697/

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调戏马丁麦克唐纳的「枕头人」

祝大家春节快乐，虎年万事如意！这周调戏，我们一起分享一部当代戏剧，剧作家/电影导演马丁麦克唐纳1995年代写成，2003年在伦敦国家剧院首演的一部充满了格林童话和黑镜画风的 The Pillowman/枕头人。

节目中提到的作品信息：

枕头人 The Pillowman, Martin McDonagh

剧本：https://www.joculartheatre.com/scripts/The%20Pillowman.pdf

B站录像英文版：https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1yW411S7t3

中国巡回演出：https://www.douban.com/location/drama/11610316/

麦克唐纳女友的英剧作品是Fleabag/伦敦生活：https://movie.douban.com/subject/26838164/

麦克唐纳的奥斯卡奖得奖作品「三块广告牌」：https://movie.douban.com/subject/26611804/

1998 年是伦敦 Finborou Theatre 首次举行了「枕头人」的剧本朗读会，节目中年份口误：https://finboroughtheatre.co.uk

Gigi 提到的杀猫的戏剧是麦克唐纳的 The Lieutenant of Inishmore

另外一部 Gigi 提到的有点残酷的戏剧是 Edmond Bond 的 The Saved

糯米提到的 Theatre of Cruelty 首先是是先锋派剧作家、演员、评论家及理论家安托南·阿尔托在其著作《戏剧及其重影》中阐述的一种戏剧形式。这个短语正好也被纽约书评前主编 Ian Buruma 用来作为自己的一本书名。两者没有关系，节目中说得比较模糊。

方瞾提到的麦克唐纳的丽南山三部曲是：

The Beauty Queen of Leenane (1996)

A Skull in Connemara (1997) 以及

The Lonesome West (1997).

Gigi 提到的德国恐怖儿童故事叫「蓬头彼得」Struwwelpeter

方瞾提到的「白夜行」是东野圭吾的一部推理小说。

糯米提到的 Netflix 警察审犯人的系列叫 The Criminal

节目中两次提到卡夫卡的小说，糯米提到的是主角叫 Joseph K 的「审判」，方瞾提到的是主角叫 K 的「城堡」。

糯米推荐的医生分析医疗剧的 YouTuber 叫 Dr Hope’s Sick Notes： https://www.youtube.com/c/DrHopeSickNotes

节目中提到两个 B Movie 一个是

Mean Girls

另外一个是最近 Netflix 比较火的

Don’t look up

节目中提到的「卫报」左派剧评人叫 Michael Billington，他 2007 年出版的一本书叫 State of the Nation。

节目尾声方瞾提到的「此房是我造」是拉斯·冯·提尔 2018 年上演的恐怖片 The House Jack Built.

祝大家春节快乐，愿意大赏赞助土豆的朋友请前往：http://culturepotato.com/shop

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这期误读会我们读一本美国作家，1962年诺奖获得者 John Steinbeck 约翰斯坦贝克的「人鼠之间」Between Mice and Men。这本书在美国是学生的必读经典，讲述了1930年代经济大萧条时期，两个在加州搬砖青年的遭遇。

节目中提到的作品信息

斯坦贝克的的代表作品

人鼠之间

伊甸之东

罐头厂街

珍珠

愤怒的葡萄

电影版

人鼠之间

愤怒的葡萄

老舍的骆驼祥子

菲兹杰拉德的了不起的盖茨比

斯坦贝克的诺奖演说

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这期节目我们纪念 2021 年 12 月 25 日在 New Haven 去世的中国历史研究学者史景迁 Jonathan Spence 。史景迁生前是耶鲁大学的 Stirling Professor of History，曾担任美国历史学会会长，“擅长从微小细节中发现中国历史的大背景”，“深入考察了代表着更大文化力量的个人生活和奇异时刻，并以生动的故事将它们包裹在一起”，他的《追寻现代中国》更是全世界中国历史学生的必读书目。这期 Unpack 栏目主播和方瞾（前「东方历史评论」执行主编）和郭婷（多伦多大学助理教授）和大家一起分享史景迁 1978 年出版的 Death Of Woman Wang 「王氏之死」。美国文学批评家 Harold Bloom 说过 “无论作为虚构文学还是历史重构来评判，（「王氏之死」的）叙事与文风都堪称大师之作。”

这里是这期节目的 30 分钟试听版本，这期 Unpack 总长度为 90 分钟。您可以选择去culturepotato.com购买“文化土豆赞助人计划”后，收听全部 Unpack 栏目的内容，获得会员通讯等福利。如果你使用苹果海外账户和 Apple Podcast，也可以直接在 Podcast 应用内通过月付的方式订阅每月一次的非虚构Unpack 栏目。

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这期#三刷的西方电影是 1983 年塔科夫斯基的「乡愁」Nostalghia，东方的电影是阮玲玉 1934 的代表作「神女」The Goddess。

节目中提到的作品信息：

电影「乡愁」Nostalghia，塔科夫斯基

非虚构「雕刻时光」Sculting in Time，塔科夫斯基

电影「伊万的童年」Ivan's Childhood，塔科夫斯基

电影「安德烈·卢布廖夫」Andrie Rublev，塔科夫斯基

电影「镜子」Mirror，塔科夫斯基

电影「潜行者」Stalker，塔科夫斯基

电影「牺牲」Sacrifice，塔科夫斯基

电影「战争与和平」，谢尔盖·邦达尔丘克

电影「神女」，阮玲玉

文化土豆三刷周旋的「马路天使」

非虚构「历史中国的内与外」，葛兆光

片尾曲「極夜後」，Denis Ho

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印度裔英国作家萨曼·鲁西迪 Salman Rushdie 的成名作，是他 1981 年出版的 Midnight's Children 午夜之子，一举获得当年的布克奖（Booker Prize），而在布克奖 25 周年和 40 周年纪念的时候，这本小说再次当选了 Booker of Bookers 的奖中奖殊荣，这本小说在英语文坛的地位可见一斑。主人公 Saleem Sinai，生于 1947 年 8 月 15 日凌晨，就在现代印度建国的时刻，他与另外 1000 个印度国庆的「午夜之子」因此拥有了非凡的能力，他们的人生经历也成为了现代印度的一面镜子。这期节目的嘉宾是张宇凌和高高。

节目中提到的作品信息：

午夜之子 Midnight's Children，萨曼·鲁西迪

文化土豆第一次讨论鲁西迪的作品「黄金屋」的节目

文化土豆讨论马尔克斯的「百年孤独」节目

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20世界后半页百老汇最受人尊重的音乐剧大师，作曲家和作词家 Stephen Sondheim 史蒂芬•桑德海姆（也作史蒂芬•桑坦）11月29日在美国去世，享年91岁。为了纪念大师此事，我们调戏栏目第一次和大家分享的音乐剧，就是Sondheim 1984年的的百老汇音乐剧，也是当年的普利策奖得主，Sunday In The Park with George，「星期天与乔治在公园」。

节目中提到的作品信息

Sunday In The Park with George（1984）

观看链接

Sunday In The Park with George（2017）

观看链接

Sweeney Todd（桑坦曲词）

The Lion King

The Sound of Music

Cats

Phantom of the Opera

West Side Story (桑坦作词)

Gypsies(桑坦作词)

Whatever Will Be, Will Be

The King and I

Guys and Dolls

Oklahoma!

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节目中提到的作品：

The Argonauts by Maggie Nelson

On Freedom by Maggie Nelson

Roland Barthe by Roland Barthe by Roland Barthe

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这次三刷我们集中火力讨论一部 3 个小时长的意大利电影「豹」，1963 年意大利导演 Luchinop Visconti 根据 Tomasi di Lampadusa 的经典同名原著 Il Gattopardo。

节目中提到的作品信息

电影「豹」The Leopard，维斯康蒂

小说「豹」The Leopard，兰佩杜萨

文化土豆聊「东京物语」

小说「战争与和平」，托尔斯泰

一篇纽约客的介绍加里波第的好文章

后记：小晏在节目中屡屡说意大利人不善战，我表示不能如此搞民族本质主义，后来看到一篇讲”留平教授“的文章，摘抄一段：

“除了周作人之外，还有另一名“留平教授”附逆投敌，他就是清华大学的钱稻荪。钱稻荪祖籍浙江吴兴。1887年出生于一个世代书香之家，精通日语、法语、德语、意大利语。但他却是个民族失败论者，早在抗战前就有过许多消极言论。据金岳霖回忆，日本人占领北平前，金岳霖表示非抗日不可。而钱稻荪则说“万万抗不得，抗，不只是亡国，还要灭种”，如此言论逼得金岳霖这样谦和的学者都要动手打他。”

钱稻荪就是民国翻译意大利文学的先驱 😂

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调戏契诃夫的「樱桃园」

这期调戏栏目我和Gigi分享契诃夫的「樱桃园」The Cherry Orchard，方瞾病假。

节目中提到的作品信息

话剧樱桃园剧本，焦菊隐译

林兆华版樱桃园

2021亚维农戏剧节版樱桃园

文化土豆聊契诃夫的万尼亚舅舅

亚威农戏剧节官网 Festival Avignon

亚威农戏剧节创始人 Jean Vilar 生平

TS Elliot 的话剧大教堂谋杀案 Murder in the Cathedral

托马斯·贝克特的维基百科

乔叟的坎特伯雷故事集

茅盾的子夜

论文 What's so Funny about Losing One's Estate, or Infantilism in "The Cherry Orchard" by Svetlana Evdokmova

莎翁剧 Measure for measure 一报还一报

心理学家武志红的非虚构巨婴国

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这期误读会我们分享诺贝尔奖得主，美国作家 Saul Bellow 索尔·贝娄的 1987 年的小说「更多人死于心碎」。嘉宾是张宇凌和高高

节目中提到的作品信息

More die of heartbreak 更多人死于心碎，索尔·贝娄

其他提到的索尔·贝娄的小说包括

奥吉·马奇历险记、雨王亨德森、洪堡的礼物、赫索格、拉韦尔斯坦 等

张宇凌推荐的贝娄散文集是

太多值得思考的事物：索尔•贝娄散文选1940-2000

益康糯米提到的美剧是

火线、亿万、反美阴谋

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下一期误读会的书目是

午夜之子，萨曼·鲁西迪

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接着卡尔波普尔那期 unpack，这期节目我们再分享一位伦敦政经学院的教授，也就是「通往奴役之路」的作者哈耶克（Federick von Hayek）的最后一本书「致命的自负：社会主义的谬误」The Fatal Conceit: The. Errors of Soclialism。分享 Popper 和 Hayek 从多个学科瓦解社会主义和历史决定论的思想，并不是文化土豆有政治立场要表达，更多的找机会研究一下之前并不熟悉的话题。希望大家喜欢。

节目中提到的作品信息：

致命的自负，哈耶克

https://book.douban.com/subject/1070007

https://www.mises.at/static/literatur/Buch/hayek-the-fatal-conceit.pdf

通向奴役之路，哈耶克

https://book.douban.com/subject/27010229

自由秩序原理，哈耶克

https://book.douban.com/subject/1005813

美剧公园与游憩 Parks and Recreations，NBC

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3419246/

Leo Rosten 采访哈耶克视频

https://youtu.be/34Bre91Ey3Q

货币论，凯恩斯

https://book.douban.com/subject/3115964

就业、利息和货币通论，凯恩斯

https://book.douban.com/subject/1137246

美国的困境 An American Dilemma: The Negro Problem and Modern Democracy , Gunnar Myrdal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_American_Dilemma

自小说 Childhood，Jan Myrdal

https://book.douban.com/subject/12542443/

播客 Unpack 毛泽东思想全球史，文化土豆

https://culturepotato.com/unpackmaoism

论文「知识在社会中的运用」，哈耶克

https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-use-knowledge-society.pdf

感觉的秩序 The Sensory Order，哈耶克

https://book.douban.com/subject/30170102/

美剧「基地」Foundation，Apple TV+

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0804484/

播客「让我们误阿西莫夫的基地」，文化土豆

https://t.hk.uy/apuC

经济学家讨论是否应该施舍给乞丐，Freakonomics

https://freakonomics.com/2007/08/09/freakonomics-quorum-the-economics-of-street-charity/

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这周我们分享两部和老上海有关，童星出演的老电影，已不是袁牧之导演，12岁的周璇出演的「马路天使」，另外一部是英国作家 JG Ballard 的同名小说改编，13 岁的 Christian Bale 出演的「太阳帝国」。

作品信息

电影「马路天使」

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1307708/

电影「太阳帝国」

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1299811/

文化土豆的「上海24小时」

https://t.hk.uy/ahTH

电影「摩天大楼」 High Rise

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3346365/

电影「欲望号快车」Crash

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292682/

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这期节目是放松闲聊，不剪辑，也没有 Shownotes 😄

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这周三刷两部时代背景都是冷战时期的电影，有核战争的刺激也有小人物的悲剧，一部是杨德昌的「牯岭街少年杀人事件」/ A brighter summer day ，另外一部是库布里克的「奇爱博士」Dr. Strange Love，嘉宾是樊夏和晏礼中。

节目中提到的作品信息：

牯岭街少年杀人事件，杨德昌

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292329

一一，杨德昌

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292434

奇爱博士，库布里克

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1322848

库布里克的豆瓣主页

https://movie.douban.com/celebrity/1054533

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这周我们分享英国剧作家 Tom Stoppard 1967 年上演的成名作 Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead，中文译名是「君臣人子小命呜呼」，它可以说是「哈姆雷特」的同人剧，从两位莎翁剧中工具人，也就是 Rosencrantz & Guildenstern 的角度，重走了「哈姆雷特」的时间线以及部分剧情。嘉宾是方瞾和Gigi。

节目中提到的作品信息：

我们提到 Tom Stoppard 创作的话剧有：

Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead（1966）

Arcadia（1993）

Rock ’n’ Roll（2006）

The Coast of Utopia trilogy（2002）

Leopoldstadt（2020）

我们观看的制作

Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead，NT Live

https://www.oldvictheatre.com/news/2017/01/rosencrantz-and-guildenstern-are-dead-in-cinemas-with-nt-live

我们提到 Tom Stoppard 担任编剧的电影有“

太阳帝国，斯皮尔伯格

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1299811/

莎翁情史，John Madden

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1300220/

话剧

哈姆雷特，莎士比亚

话剧

等待戈多，贝克特

话剧

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, W. S. Gilbert

https://gsarchive.net/gilbert/plays/rosencrantz/index.html

非虚构

安妮日记

https://book.douban.com/subject/1042434/

讲稿

Lecture on Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, Ian Johnston

https://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/engl_258/Lecture%20Notes/johnstonstoppardlecture.htm

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暑假结束了，文化土豆恢复周更。这期误读会我们阅读的是英文短篇故事作家公认的最厉害的作者，加拿大作家，2013 年诺奖获得者 Alice Munro 爱丽丝·门罗 创作生涯较晚期,2001 年的一部短篇集 Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Love, Marriage./ 「恨，友谊，追求，爱情，婚姻」

节目中讨论了这个集子里的三则短篇

Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Love, Marriage/恨，友谊，追求，爱情，婚姻

What is Remembered /留存的记忆

The Bear Came Over the Mountain / 熊从山那边来

Alice Munro 现已出版的短篇集有

Dance of the Happy Shades/快乐影子之舞 – 1968

https://book.douban.com/subject/25747866/

Lives of Girls and Women/女孩和女人们的生活 – 1971

https://book.douban.com/subject/25747867/

Something I've Been Meaning to Tell You/我一直想要告诉你的事 – 1974

https://book.douban.com/subject/30255676/

Who Do You Think You Are?/你以为你是谁 – 1978 

https://book.douban.com/subject/25743884/

The Moons of Jupiter/木星的卫星 – 1982

https://book.douban.com/subject/30361613/

The Progress of Love/爱的进程 – 1986

https://book.douban.com/subject/25747868/

Friend of My Youth/我年轻时的朋友 – 1990

https://book.douban.com/subject/27609266/

Open Secrets/公开的秘密 – 1994

https://book.douban.com/subject/25746421/

The Love of a Good Woman/好女人的爱情 – 1998

https://book.douban.com/subject/25747869/

Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage/恨，友谊，追求，爱情，婚姻 – 2001

https://book.douban.com/subject/25747871/

Runaway/逃离 – 2004 

https://book.douban.com/subject/26863797/

The View from Castle Rock/岩石堡风景 – 2006

https://book.douban.com/subject/27609832/

Too Much Happiness/幸福过了头 – 2009

https://book.douban.com/subject/25747874/

Dear Life/亲爱的生活 – 2012

https://book.douban.com/subject/25870629/

节目中提到的其他作品/信息

门罗书店的Instagram账号

https://www.instagram.com/munrobooks/

文化土豆聊莱辛的「金色笔记」

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/%E6%96%87%E5%8C%96%E5%9C%9F%E8%B1%86-culture-potato/id1243945491?i=1000430389084

太多值得思考的事物：索尔•贝娄散文选1940-2000

https://book.douban.com/subject/35367135/

根据「恨，友谊，追求，爱情，婚姻」改编的电影「爱恨一线牵」

https://movie.douban.com/subject/20399859/

根据「熊从山那边来」改编的电影「柳暗花明」

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1874383/

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这期 Unpack 我们分享意大利作家 Primo Levi 1947 年出版的奥斯维辛回忆录 If this is a man「如果这是一个人」，也有翻译为「这是不是个人」。Primo Levi 25 岁作为意大利裔犹太人被押送至奥斯维辛，在那里度过了 11 个月，直至俄国红军的到来。Primo Levi 是战后一批集中营回忆录作者中，出现得最早，也最经久不衰的作者。这本书至今是意大利每个学生的必读。

这是这期节目的试听版本，完整版大约1小时05分钟长，你可以在文化土豆的官网，通过订购赞助人计划后，收听到所有 Unpack 栏目，如果你是 Apple Podcast 海外商店的用户，也可以在博客应用里搜索 “文化土豆 Unpack” 付费订阅完整版的 Unpack 栏目。

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这期调戏栏目我们分享瑞典除了易卜生之外在19/20世纪之交的另外一位戏剧大师，现代戏剧、尤其是表现主义奠基人的 August Strindberg 以及他的代表作之一 The Ghost Sonata 「鬼魂奏鸣曲」，也有翻译为「魔鬼奏鸣曲」。嘉宾是方瞾和Gigi。

视频链接

魔鬼奏鸣曲，英格玛·伯格曼2000年版

https://youtu.be/HJ3tvOni270

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ks411G7DC

节目中提到的作品信息

话剧

鬼魂奏鸣曲，斯特林堡

朱莉小姐，斯特林堡

https://book.douban.com/subject/1968004/

话剧

群鬼，易卜生

https://book.douban.com/subject/1792474/

话剧

玩偶之家，易卜生

https://book.douban.com/subject/3534238/

小说

红房间，斯特林堡

https://book.douban.com/subject/1987674/

非虚构

Strindberg and Van Gogh, Karl Jaspers

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strindberg-van-Gogh-Karl-Jaspers/dp/0816506086

非虚构

A History of Scandinavian Theatre, Federick Marker

https://book.douban.com/subject/12034267/

小说

逆流，于斯曼

https://book.douban.com/subject/26666169/

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这周我们分享文学史上的一部奇书，法国作家于斯曼（Joris-Karl Huysmans）的颓废主义经典小说「逆流」/ À rebours。高高请假，只有益康糯米和张宇凌参与录制。

节目中提到的作品信息

小说

逆流/À rebours，于斯曼

https://book.douban.com/subject/26666169/

误读会

让我们一起误读冈查洛夫的「奥勃洛莫夫」，文化土豆

https://cutt.ly/cmN3JsU

摄影集

Carlo Mollino Polaroids

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Carlo-Mollino-Polaroids/dp/8862083785

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这周三刷是文化土豆第二次了费里尼经典之作的「八部半」，为了搭配这部梦幻和现实同在的电影，我们同时也看了黑泽明1990年的人生最后一部作品，由八部短片组成的「夢」。

节目中提到的作品信息:

文化土豆另外一次聊「八部半」的节目

电影

8½ / 八部半，费里尼

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1361276

电影

Dreams /「夢」，黑泽明

https://youtu.be/RcXk_PLrHp8

电影

太阳照常升起，姜文

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1766086

电影

胭脂扣，关锦鹏

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1299288

编辑推荐

小说

喀耳刻/Circe，玛德琳·米勒

https://book.douban.com/subject/35268450

小说

阿基里斯之歌，玛德琳·米勒

https://book.douban.com/subject/25858746

小说

逆流，于斯曼

https://book.douban.com/subject/26666169

电影

La Strada/大路，费里尼

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292719

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这期 Unpack 栏目我们分享 Adam Smith 的 The Theory of Moral Sentiments。这期节目可以在苹果播客应用中付费订阅收听（中国内地苹果ID账户除外），或者在 culturepotato.com 付费注册收听。

节目中提到的亚当·斯密的作品

正式出版

道德情操论/The Theory of Moral Sentiments

https://book.douban.com/subject/1116367

国富论/The Wealth of Nations

https://book.douban.com/subject/1261560/

学生笔记整理:

修辞学和文学/Lectures on Rhetoric & Belle Lettres

法理学讲义/Lectures on Jurisprudence

https://book.douban.com/subject/26143661/

另外在节目准备中主播参考的资料

Adam Smith: What He Thought, and Why it Matters, Jesse Norman

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adam-Smith-What-Thought-Matters/dp/0241328497

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这期我们第一次走进日本舞台，观看日本著名话剧导演蜷川幸雄的「武藏 Musashi」，剧本是剧作家是井上厦根据1930年代吉川英治的小说「宫本武藏」。这部剧曾经在上海巡演。

节目中提到的作品信息

舞台剧

武藏 Musashi，蜷川幸雄导演

https://www.douban.com/location/drama/11602716/

播放链接：https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Mt4y117oQ

历史小说

宫本武藏·剑与道，吉川英治

https://book.douban.com/subject/1441488/

南柯梦记，汤显祖

https://book.douban.com/subject/3112058/

非虚构

菊与刀，鲁思·本尼迪克特

https://book.douban.com/subject/1022238/

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上周主播去了一趟利物浦，中午到，第二天下午走，暴走 24 小时，利物浦双年展，嘉宾是播客艺术有读的主播 Sammi。

节目中提到的信息

利物浦双年展

https://www.biennial.com

秘密遣返中国海员，卫报调查

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/may/25/chinese-merchant-seamen-liverpool-deportations

Liverpool International Slavery Museum

https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/international-slavery-museum

“火锅教堂” Liverpool Metropolitan Museum

https://www.liverpoolmetrocathedral.org.uk

利物浦美味轩餐厅

https://www.meimeiliverpool.com

利物浦奴隶贸易在线导览

https://youtu.be/pMody0pLUAw

探访利物浦中国城

https://youtu.be/ZwG4t9HE6mk

艺术家郑波主页

http://zhengbo.org

LUSH 利物浦旗舰店

https://www.lush.com/uk/en/a/inside-worlds-biggest-lush-shop

The Blue Coat

https://www.thebluecoat.org.uk

Monobloc 椅子

https://www.design-museum.de/en/exhibitions/detailpages/monobloc-a-chair-for-the-world.html

Pan African flags by Larry Achiampong

https://www.biennial.com/2021/exhibition/artists/larry-achiampong

利物浦 St George’s Hall

https://www.stgeorgeshallliverpool.co.uk

Index 系列，Xaviera Simmons

https://www.biennial.com/2021/exhibition/artists/xaviera-simmons

Crosby Beach Another Place, Antony Gormley

https://www.visitliverpool.com/things-to-do/another-place-by-antony-gormley-p160981

Tate Liverpool

https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-liverpool

Don McCullin 摄影展，Tate Liverpool

https://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-liverpool/exhibition/don-mccullin

餐厅 The Italian Club Fish

https://www.theitalianclubfamily.com/the-italian-club-fish/

益康糯米利物浦照片集

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DFAih6Dbqhvuz5FR6

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欢迎大家收听文化土豆第200期节目! 这期节目之前有两位听众发来的问候 ❤️。这周轮到我们的看老片的新栏目“三刷”，我们看的东方电影是小津安二郎的「东京物语」Tokyo Story，西方电影是得过六次奥斯卡最佳导演奖的约翰·福特的「青山翠谷」How Green Was My Valley。

节目中提到的作品信息

电影

东京物语，小津安二郎

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291568/

非虚构

我是开豆腐店的，我只做豆腐，小津安二郎

https://book.douban.com/subject/22542435/

电影

东京家族，山田洋次

https://movie.douban.com/subject/5996409/

电影

茶泡饭之味，小津安二郎

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1306183/

文章

日本美學淺談：「物哀」的秘密

https://www.tsunagujapan.com/zh-hant/mono-no-aware/

电影

How Green Was My Valley/青山翠谷，John Ford

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293322/

电影

城南旧事，吴贻弓

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1300894/

编辑推荐

电影

一路北上 Long Way Up，Apple TV+

https://movie.douban.com/subject/35165400/

非虚构

製造反革命: 柳幸福案與文革時期的基層法制生態，王海光

http://t.hk.uy/uBq

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1921-1932年陆续出版的捷克长篇小说「好兵帅克历险记」The Good Soldier Švejk 讲述了一个性格温顺，头脑简单的中年男人“帅克”在第一次世界大战中假装积极参军的历险故事。这本书的的插图是由艺术家 Josef Lada 完成，全书一共三卷半，作者哈谢克 Jaroslav Hašek 在小说完成前心脏病去世，当时不到40岁。

节目中提到的作品信息

小说

好兵帅克历险记（人民文学），哈谢克

https://book.douban.com/subject/26786086/

诗集

世界美如斯，雅罗斯拉夫·赛弗尔特

https://book.douban.com/subject/1469414/

电影

好兵帅克（1957）

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1458187/

电影

西线无战事（1930）

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1295116/

播客

一战百年特别节目，文化土豆

https://youtu.be/xBff_Dvaj_c

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这期“调戏”栏目我们分享在美国 Oregon Shakespeare Festival 2018 年上演的美版「窦娥冤」Snow in Midsummer。这部剧是基于我们的主播 Gigi 受英国 Royal Shakespeare Company 委托翻译的元杂剧剧本，由美国剧作家 Frances Ya-chu Cowhig（高雅竹）改编，Justin Audibert 导演。

节目中提到的作品信息:

舞台剧

Snow in Midsummer，Frances Cowhig

https://www.osfashland.org/en/productions/2021-digital-plays/d-snow-in-midsummer.aspx

元杂剧

感天动地窦娥冤，关汉卿

https://www.shiwenlu.com/qu/68812.html

戏剧节

Oregon Shakespeare Festival

https://www.osfashland.org

翻译计划

Chinese Classics Translation Project

https://www.rsc.org.uk/about-us/our-work-in-china/chinese-classics-translation-project

仙侠剧

陈情令，郑伟文

https://movie.douban.com/subject/27195020/

动画

魔道祖师，墨香铜臭

https://movie.douban.com/subject/27015848/

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公元前431年，Euripides 的 Medea 首次在雅典的酒神节演出，观众可能预期看到的悲剧是“妈妈再爱我一次”，但是剧作家给到雅典观众的，确是一个母亲冰冷的复仇逻辑，这个故事想必在当时的雅典造成了不小的丑闻，在三出参与竞赛的戏剧中排名第三。在希腊男人的世界里，没有什么比一个喜欢搞事的聪明女人更可怕的事情，Medea 可能是希腊女人中最聪明的一个，Medea 当然在成为历史上最可怕母亲之前，早已因为协助 Jason 获取金羊毛名声在外，一个危险、聪明，来自异乡的巫女。因为 Euripdes 的这部作品，Medea 成为了戏剧史上最不朽的女性角色，在两千多年的历史中，大部分时间由男性扮演。我们今天讨论的Meda是NTLive 2014年版本的，出演 Medea的是最近辞世的英国演员，Helen McCrory 海伦·麦克洛瑞。

节目中提到的作品信息

话剧

美狄亚/Medea，欧里庇得斯/Euripides，NTLive

https://movie.douban.com/subject/26329520/

播客

文化土豆聊浴血黑帮

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000451488752

播客

文化土豆聊国土安全

https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000475410922

美剧

亿万 Billions，HBO

https://movie.douban.com/subject/26200198/

英剧

狼厅，BBC

https://movie.douban.com/subject/25823904/

话剧

俄狄浦斯王，索福克勒斯

https://book.douban.com/subject/1076330/

话剧

俄瑞斯忒亚，埃斯库罗斯

http://dwz.date/eYpH

非虚构

诗学，亚里士多德

https://book.douban.com/subject/1036446/

剧本

费德尔/Phaedra，拉辛/Racine

https://book.douban.com/subject/3237917/

游戏

刺客信条奥德赛/AC Odyssey，Ubisoft

https://www.douban.com/game/30237482/

油画

Medea about to Kill her Children/Medée furious, Eugene Delacroix

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/702769

播客

调戏贝克特「克拉普最后的碟带」

https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000510992874

原声带

Medea，Goldfrapp

https://youtu.be/kZQ1_Xelb_o

电影

爱 Amour, Michael Haneke

https://movie.douban.com/subject/4798707/

电影

Downfall/帝国的毁灭，Oliver Hirschbiegel

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1309115/

关于阿波罗于酒神的意向出自

悲剧的诞生，尼采

https://book.douban.com/subject/1063852/

小说

法国中尉的女人，John Fowles

https://book.douban.com/subject/27071333/

剧本

西厢记，王实莆

https://book.douban.com/subject/1016631/

剧本

窦娥冤，关汉卿

https://book.douban.com/subject/1023595/

剧本

赵氏孤儿，纪君祥

https://book.douban.com/subject/1023595/

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这期是我们分享经典老片的 #三刷 栏目第二期，我们分享两部大名鼎鼎，值得七刷八刷的「公民凯恩」和「小城之春」。更正：节目中益康糯米提到的 The War of the Worlds 不是电影，是 1938 年 Orson Welles 导演和主演的根据 HG Wells 同名小说改编的广播剧。

节目中提到的作品信息

电影

「公民凯恩」Citizen Kane，Orson Welles

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292288/

广播剧

War of the worlds, Orson Welles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(1938_radio_drama)

电影

「小城之春」，费穆

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1323746/

电影

「斩经堂」，费穆

https://movie.douban.com/subject/2295850/

电影

「古中国之歌」，费穆

https://movie.douban.com/subject/2295855/

编辑推荐

非虚构

「梦余说梦」，黄爱玲

https://book.douban.com/subject/30230104/

电影

「狼山喋血记」，费穆

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1461808/

电影

「青山翠谷」How Green Was My Valley，John Ford

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293322/

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这周我们 unpack 一本攻击人文主义的当代经典非虚构，英国哲学家 John Gray 的 Straw Dogs。

参考信息：

非虚构

稻草狗，约翰·格雷

https://book.douban.com/subject/27127383

动物沉默，约翰·格雷

https://book.douban.com/subject/27159647/

Feline Philosophy，John Gray

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/309/309154/feline-philosophy/9780241351147.html

哲学家 A. C. Grayling 对John Gray 的两篇批评文章:

Through the looking glass

https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/1423/through-the-looking-glass

Gray's Elegy

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/mar/18/grayselegy

视频

作家 Will Self 和 John Gray 辩论“猫还是狗”，Intelligence Squared

https://youtu.be/4TEJZWQW7wE

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这期误读会我们分享捷克作家米兰·昆德拉Milan Kundera1990年出版的小说「不朽」。嘉宾是张宇凌和高高。

昆德拉的小说作品分别是：

「玩笑」（1967年）

「好笑的愛」（短篇小说集，1968年）

「生活在他方」（1969年）

「告别圆舞曲」（1976年）

「笑忘書」（又譯「笑忘錄」）（1978年）

「生命中不能承受之輕」（1984年）

「不朽」（1990年）

「慢」（1995年）

「身份」（1998年）

「無知」（2000年）

「慶祝無意義」（2013年以意大利文發表，中譯本2014出版）

节目中提到的作品信息：

小说

Immortality 「不朽」，米兰·昆德拉

https://book.douban.com/subject/1060117

小说

The Unbearable Lightness of Being 「生命中不能承受之轻」，米兰·昆德拉

https://book.douban.com/subject/1433377

电影

布拉格之恋，丹尼尔·戴-刘易斯 / 朱丽叶·比诺什 

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291859

非虚构

米兰·昆德拉：一种作家人生，让–多米尼克•布里埃 

https://book.douban.com/subject/35285924/

口述历史

二手时间，S. A. 阿列克谢耶维奇

https://book.douban.com/subject/26704403/

德剧

德国八九年 Deutschland 89，Sundance TV

https://movie.douban.com/subject/30454891/

报道

Report Says Acclaimed Czech Writer Informed on a Supposed Spy, NYTimes

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/14/world/europe/14czech.html?smid=url-share

播客

Unpack 以赛亚柏林的「浪漫主义的根源」，文化土豆

https://culturepotato.com/unpack-the-roots-of-romanticism

编辑推荐：

英剧

Line of Duty/「重任在肩」第六季, BBC

https://movie.douban.com/subject/27062703/

杂志

「三联生活周刊无聊研究」

4.12日出版

小说

「克拉拉与太阳」,石黑一雄

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这周调戏栏目分享的剧目是这部美国剧作家 Augusut Wilson 奥古斯特·威尔逊 1984 年的话剧「莱妮大妈的黑臀」Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom。这部话剧最近被 Netflix 翻拍成为同名电影，也正好是今年奥斯卡奖最佳男主提名，Chuck Boseman （漫威海报扮演者），生前最后一部作品，电影的中文名叫「蓝调天后」。

威尔逊以编年史的方式创作了10部发生在匹兹堡的系列话剧，分别展现了20世纪美国黑人在每一个10年的历史。Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom 的故事发生在 1920 年代。

威尔逊的匹兹堡系列话剧 Pittsburg Cycle分别是：

1900s: Gem of the Ocean (2003)

1910s: Joe Turner’s Come and Gone (1986)

1920s: Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom (1984)

1930s: The Piano Lesson (1987)

1940s: Seven Guitars (1995)

1950s: Fences (1985)

1960s: Two Trains Running (1990)

1970s: Jitney (1982)

1980s: King Hedley II (1999)

1990s: Radio Golf (2005)

节目中提到的作品信息：

电影

「蓝调天后」Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom, Netflix

https://movie.douban.com/subject/34439631/

电影

「冲出康普顿」Straight Outta Compton, F Gary Gray

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3608742/

电影

「为奴十二年」12 Years a Slave，Steve McQueen

https://movie.douban.com/subject/6879185/

电影

「白宫管家」The Butler，Lee Daniels

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3292949/

美术馆

National Museum of African American History & Culture, Smithsonian

https://nmaahc.si.edu

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这周我们 Launch 一个新的月播栏目叫 #三刷，每次重温两部历久弥新的电影作品。这个栏目的的常设主播搭配是晏礼中和樊夏，我们准备先做10期看看。

节目中提到的作品信息

电影

少林寺，李连杰

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1301198/

电影

佐罗，阿兰·德龙

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291866/

编辑推荐

时装秀

Celine Homme “Teen Knight Poem”

https://youtu.be/JXEjb7VpkjI

美剧

基地恶灵第一季，AMC

https://movie.douban.com/subject/24722767/

小说

中士还乡，阎连科

https://book.douban.com/subject/26337746/

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玛格丽特·米德（Margaret Mead）可能是全世界最有名的人类学家，她在 1925 年前往南太平洋岛国的萨摩耶岛（Samoa），融入当地部落生活，在调查了萨摩亚人的生活后写成的一本「萨摩亚人的成年」（Coming of Age in Samoa）1928 年在美国出版引起轰动。米德记录下的萨萨摩亚少女，在青春期就有开放自由的性生活，同性恋情，晚婚，婚外恋和和离婚并不让人惊讶，而且似乎有着比文明社会人们更健康的心理。在过去的近一百年间，虽然这本书一直饱受争议，但是米德的这本书不仅改变了人类学的研究方式，似乎还像先知一样，指明了现代人性观念的变化方。这里是这期节目的预览部分，完整节目一共 45 分钟，只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com，购买赞助人计划后，在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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这期节目我们和上海的樊夏连线聊聊赵婷的金球奖、金狮奖桂冠得主 Nomadland 和 Netflix 上的新黑白电影 Malcolm & Marie。

节目中提到的作品信息

电影

Nomadland 无伊之地，赵婷

https://movie.douban.com/subject/30458949/

非虚构

Nomadland，Jessica Bruder

https://book.douban.com/subject/27146694/

电影

骑士 The Rider，赵婷

https://movie.douban.com/subject/27012772/

音乐视频

Elegy for the Arctic，Ludovico Einaudi

https://youtu.be/2DLnhdnSUVs

航海Vlogger

Sailing La Vagabond

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZdQjaSoLjIzFnWsDQOv4ww

电影

Malcolm & Marie/马尔科姆与玛丽, Netflix

https://movie.douban.com/subject/35135958/

电影

婚姻故事/Marriage Story，Noah Baumbach

https://movie.douban.com/celebrity/1049678/

编辑推荐

动画短片

Lost & Found

https://www.lostandfound.film

纪录片

Fake Famous 虚名，Nick Bilton

https://movie.douban.com/subject/35337704/

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这周调戏栏目我们看看爱尔兰剧作家，1969年诺贝尔文学奖得主塞缪尔·贝克特 Samuel Beckett 的话剧作品，但不是「等待戈多」！而是「克拉普最后的录音带」—— 一部很多男性老戏骨在演艺生涯尾声都会尝试发挥和解读的独角戏。嘉宾是Gigi和方曌。我们观看的是 John Hurts 2000 录制的版本。

克拉普的最后碟带 Krapp’s Last Tape 观剧链接

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cx411p7Zm

其他链接也可以在 YouTube 上搜索到

节目中提到的其他作品信息

Samuel Beckett 的话剧

Krapp’s Last Tape/克拉普最后的录音带

https://movie.douban.com/subject/2243290

Waiting for Godot/等待戈多

https://book.douban.com/subject/26747147

Endgame/终局

https://book.douban.com/subject/26747152

Happy Days/开心的日子

https://book.douban.com/subject/26747155

视频

Harold Pinter on Samuel Beckett

https://youtu.be/-N99S8n2TiA

小说

Effi Briest，Theodor Fontane

https://book.douban.com/subject/1880661/

小说

The man in the gray flannel suit/穿灰色法兰绒套装的男人，David Sloan

 Wilson

https://book.douban.com/subject/25838255/

小说

The Mandarins/名士风流，Simone de Beauvoir

https://book.douban.com/subject/1079208/

电影

哥斯拉（1954）, 本多猪四郎 

https://movie.douban.com/subject/2059276/

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很多人都看过铁叔饰演的「故园风雨后」，但是也许你并不了解英国作家伊夫林·沃的拿手好戏其实是他在加入天主教之前的写得那些精干恶毒的讽刺小说。这期误读会我们选择了一篇结合了婚外恋、游记、还甚至有点“黑镜”的「一抔尘土」，故事发生在英格兰乡村古宅、伦敦的绅士俱乐部和亚马逊的原始丛林里。嘉宾是高高和张宇凌。

文化土豆的的一些其他节目也和伊夫林·沃及其时代有关：

一战停战日百年纪念特辑

https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000423512699

威廉·莫里斯与工美运动

https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000460912527

节目中提到的作品信息

小说

一抔尘土/A Handful of Dust，Evelyn Waugh

https://book.douban.com/subject/27045891

长诗

荒原 Wasteland，TS Eliot

https://book.douban.com/subject/6440343

报告文学

The Coronatino of Haile Selassie, Evelyn Waugh

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/883282

小说

故园风雨后/Brideshead Revisited，Evelyn Waugh

https://book.douban.com/subject/26975428

英剧故园风雨后（1981）

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1439497/

电影故园风雨后（2008）

https://movie.douban.com/subject/2034997/

小说

衰落与瓦解/Decline and Fall，Evelyn Waugh

https://book.douban.com/subject/21346006/

小说

独家新闻/Scoop，Evelyn Waugh

https://book.douban.com/subject/27045190/

法剧

Engrenages（共八季）

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3661930/

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这期春节期间发布的节目，主播和 Richard 一起分享 Hoxton Books 书店的装修工作，特别是不同的书架、桌椅、吊灯背后的故事。这个 pop-up 系列是通过简单慢速英文录制，文字信息由 Otter.AI 整理。

节目中提到的信息链接

606 Universal Bookshelf

wiloyem255@donmah.com

纪录片 RAMS

https://www.hustwit.com/rams

Krossing 书架

https://www.kriptonite.com/en/products/krossing

Tylko Type 2 书架

https://tylko.com/shelf/bookcases/1504423/

Tiptoe 桌腿

https://www.tiptoe.fr/en/table-legs/

Bertoia Molded Shell Side Chair

https://www.knoll.com/product/bertoia-molded-side-chair

Dr Glob Chair by Philippe Starck

http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O144604/dr-glob-chair-philippe-starck/dr-glob-chair-starck-philippe/ 

文字信息：

Yifan 

Hi, Richard

Yifan 

So what are we going to talk about this week? 

Richard 

Well, actually, let me let me wish everyone a Happy New Year. Oh, right. Happy, happy, happy New Year of the ox. Yeah. Thank you. Happy New Year, everyone. So this week, we're gonna talk about the shop design. So the format is going to be slightly different. In that, I will be asking you fun, a few questions about how the design of the shop came about. Just a little update on the situation here.

Richard 

Real lockdown, the country is still under national lockdown, which means that only only food shops could open pretty much.

Richard 

Which means we and we still don't even though the numbers have come down. We still don't know when we're going to open. So we're waiting.

Yifan 

In the meantime, I think in Scotland, bookshops are open. Oh, really? Oh, you didn't know? Yeah. No, I was not aware. But I've not been keeping a close eye on Scotland. They just had more snow than us. That's That's all I know.

Richard 

So maybe, maybe you find you could just provide us with a brief description of the location and the space where the shop is.

Yifan 

Thanks, Richard. So if you listen to our very first episode, we did describe roughly the layout and the location of the shop. The shop is in an area called Hoxton in London. And it's next door to a Chinese supermarket.

Yifan 

The building is actually not one of those you see in their London Film. Like Notting Hill, it's more like a building you would see in a second tier City in, in China, I guess, but probably smaller, less.

Richard 

It's, it's a modern building.

Yifan 

Now you say it that way. It's a five storey, what 10 years old, 10 years old, five storey tall apartment block in a busy road. And so on the ground floor, you have what's called commercial units. So within this apartment block, there are two commercial units. One is a Chinese supermarket. And the other is going to be a half Chinese bookshop within our commercial unit Chinese bookshop.

Unknown Speaker 

Well, it's kind of like a Chinese British run bookshop. Within our unit,

Unknown Speaker 

we are sharing the book The shop space with a with an art gallery. So we only occupy one third of the space. And the art gallery occupies two thirds the space, but we share the same entrance.

Unknown Speaker 

If that makes sense.

Unknown Speaker 

There's just one entrance for both. So you have you enter the gallery to enter the bookshop. Yes, exactly. So when you enter if you turn left is the bookshop. If you turn right is the gallery ish. Maybe I should also say something about the floor of our the our half of the shop is about 15 to 20 square metres. And we have fairly high a fairly high ceiling so from floor to ceiling is about four there is Yeah, shall we say? four metres? three metres, at least three point something. Yeah, it's a pretty high ceiling. Yeah. So yeah, 3.5 metres. But the shape of the space is a triangle. It's one of those classic triangles as Rachel would say, you study in a trigonometry class. So the road runs along I would say p pata news I bought a news hypotony news. And then we have an along that side. Let me maybe just use Chinese to describe this. So the triangle is like a different like a ghost ankles, the shell Dominica, semiotic Chung, okay. So a hypotenuse is the shroud was a bit okay. And what chord adjacent is the Jericho sank was the neighbour and then the opposite side is the Was it the right the right angle sides are opposite the opposite the hypotenuse? Yes, this is great. This is like Pythagoras theorem, a squared plus b squared equals c squared. Exactly. So

Unknown Speaker 

Basically imagine hypotenuse is the seat is the? Yes. So imagine the voice is three, four and five metres long, which roughly it probably is it's slightly bigger than that. Yeah, yeah, that's the class. Yeah, Pythagoras. theorem try Yes. And the opposite side is the three, the adjacent side is the four. And the hypotenuse side is the five.

Unknown Speaker 

That a 10 out. Okay, so that's a space. And when you go into the shop, you go through the smallest acute angle, kind of, right? Again, it's a gap in the wall, never mind like a little, rather than in the middle of a side, it's on the side of a side, if that makes sense. Basically, as you go in, and maybe you want to explain that one in Chinese,

Unknown Speaker 

it's already very confused as you go into the shop. On your left, it's the hypotenuse. And it's got a window in the middle, and that's facing the busy road. And then on your right is the adjacent side, that's just like a wall that's dividing our bookshop and the shop next door. And then we have the opposite side, you have another wall.

Unknown Speaker 

That that's the layout. Is that essentially, it sounds like a lot of wolves to put put bookshelves on exactly. Basically this. There's one takeaway from all this. And what was your question? So he did the desert? Yeah, yeah. So essentially, what was what we went back, but essentially, the question was, who did the design planning? Okay. So there were two designs. So one, we consulted a friend in Beijing, who's a who's a interior designer. And he gave a, you know, very simple layout, which actually looks pretty much like much like what we got in the end, like what we got in the end. But what happened was, we also engaged a London designer, who's also a friend and practically worked for free on this. And I wouldn't say she designed the shop, she walked through, you know, with us the different options. And yeah, she guided us with design work, I would say helped us to choose colours and

Unknown Speaker 

etc. and sounds fine. Yeah. Yeah. And then should we name checker or name checker practice? Yeah. What is her practice called?

Unknown Speaker 

Gatti? Ruth Rhodes? Yes. I think they won some awards recently. Oh, yeah. That's right there. She had all sorts of Yeah, she had. She had an award. At the end of her email address, there was an award for some young architect. Yeah, yes, yeah, that sort of thing.

Unknown Speaker 

But I think they never did a bookshop project. And that's why she was very happy to work on this project for next to nothing fee. So that she would, you know, have this in her portfolio. Right to to,

Unknown Speaker 

to show off the

Unknown Speaker 

show for versatility. So as you walk into the bookshop, what you first notice is you are facing a massive three metre wide bookshelf. And that's kind of a wooden bookshelf, then you notice a round table.

Unknown Speaker 

And then you notice pendant seating light hanging above the round table.

Unknown Speaker 

And on two sides, you have these

Unknown Speaker 

hanging shelves, that's not standing on the floor, on the two sides. That's the main thing. And on the three wars, we have two tones. So on the

Unknown Speaker 

top one metre, about one metre, it's white, and then

Unknown Speaker 

from floor to up to say 2.2 metres is a very light grey. And we have positioned our bookshelves such that you have a top line, the grey line runs neatly on top of all the bookshelves.

Unknown Speaker 

And let's say above the above the bookshelves are white. Yes, the walls are white. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

Again, making something very simple, very confusing. It's what we're doing here. And we have two chairs as well. So all we have is 12345677 items. So three sharps, one table, two chairs and one light. That's it

Unknown Speaker 

right

Unknown Speaker 

This This was all furniture that the architectures I mean, the the most important things are the bookshelves. So the architects, we wanted to do this thing as cheaply as possible. And when I first that's the wish, and when I first Yes, imagine the bookshop, I thought we could spend 1000 pounds 2000 maximum on just getting a basic bookshop up and running. Right? So our architect told us the cheapest option would be to buy 10 IKEA Billy bookcases

Unknown Speaker 

and the Billy set and then just set them up like soldiers all over all around over all around covering up all the walls. Yeah, a BNC that will look ugly for sure. Because you have you can't choose the colour and then or the each individual bookshelf they will be slightly wobbly. They won't line out straight.

Unknown Speaker 

Yeah, they will be flush. So what happens is the architect proposed that a carpenter would what's called a box out so to build fake walls above the Billy bookcase. So it looks like we have the Billy bookcases are living inside the walls. Yeah, like building built in. Yeah. Built in bookcase. Yeah. And that boxing out alone is like 4000 pounds or something. Wow. Or maybe 2000 pounds. It's a lot of money. But anyway, it's about like a lot of money for what was basically air behind it. Yes. For a bit basically, you're actually shrinking the room. Right? You're building additional wars. Yeah, you're shrinking the room in a room that's not that big, you know, huge to start off. Exactly. And then we can build 10 Billy bookcases as we write, we actually tried this option and literally try this, didn't we? Yeah. So successful.

Unknown Speaker 

The architect I think they told us, you might want to buy one billet bookcase and then put it up, and then see if you like it really look like Yeah. And, and I think they realise that. Yeah, there's a good chance we won't like it. And we didn't. Right. Right. So they set us on the kind of you could try this. We don't think you're gonna like it, but you know, try anyway. Yeah. And, but they're different option is they would design like custom make bookshelves twice, which are going to be also very expensive. So that would have been more than the 4000 pounds to enclose the top of the bookcase for sure. That would be I would say twice as much. I did say in the beginning, I wanted a minimalist look. Just the focus should be the books and not the shelves. Right? That's true. And in the book shelving world there is a very famous, what's called a modular bookshelf. 606 universal shelving system. It's designed by Dieter Rams. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dieter Rams is very famous. I would say he's the Jonathan Ive Yes, a knife took a load of inspiration of Yeah, like he's like Jonathan Ives God. Right. Okay. I didn't know that the calculator design an app is basically just copy and pasted from a Dieter Rams calculator design. Right? So for people who didn't know Dieter Rams was probably working in the 60s and 70s. And maybe late even later, German. He worked for German, a German company, brown brown. That still makes toothbrushes and kitchen staff and shaving razors, etc. But they did a great documentary. We could link

Unknown Speaker 

link about ram RAMs, Rams. I think it's just called Rams Rams. Yeah. Yeah, we could link in the notes. I don't know.

Unknown Speaker 

But do know that back then. To compare it to, to Jonathan Ive of apple. Brown. Made loads of electronic goods, right like they made Yeah. record players, speakers. Sure. Yeah. calculators alarm clocks, which back then? Probably high tech.

Unknown Speaker 

So yeah, yeah, they were like yeah, what you know what I noticed is brown is reviving a Dieter ram kind of ish design of speakers. And that's interesting because, yeah, because now I think the brown products they don't really look as interesting.

Unknown Speaker 

I nearly did. I think what years ago? Exactly. So they handed the the baton to I would say Mooji. And apple.

Unknown Speaker 

Hmm. And yeah, probably, but then then the Rams also does this v2 thing nowadays, that's his, that's his outfit. This is what sort of going back to the 606 shelf? Yes. Which is now sold by a company called v2. But then, you know, it's massively expensive, isn't it? I mean, we could buy a lot of books without money

Unknown Speaker 

to buy three to fit our bookshop with Fitz who would cost a Tesla basically

Unknown Speaker 

right a model three it's a cheaper Tesla Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

Yeah. And but in the end, you know, we found cheaper options. Yeah. That you found these cheaper options or Yeah, I did. Yeah. And right because the architect really was was going to be too expensive designing his own shelves or Yeah, her own shelves. I found two separate things. I basically googled you know alternatives to Dieter Rams bookshelves.

Unknown Speaker 

Alternatives to Dieter Rams. bookshelves. Yeah. And exactly. And all the options are still too expensive. What happened was then I went to a furniture shop in London. that sells nice furniture. It's Conrad Conrad shop. And of course, yeah, yeah. Who who started the shop is Terrence Terrence Conlon who died last year, didn't he? He died not that long ago. Was he a designer himself? Or is he just a dealer? That's a good question. Anyway, I think but basically known as a as a as a furniture seller than a furniture maker. Yeah. So he sells a lot of minimalist furniture, let's say, from continental Europe. And so in his shop, I found this

Unknown Speaker 

what's called a crossing shelf by an Italian company and Milan Milan based company called kryptonite. Right? And it's super minimal. It's even more minimal than Dieter Rams, bookshelves and rave. And it's a lot cheaper. It's still expensive, but it's a lot cheaper. So then a 606. Yeah, so what happened was, if we were to buy crossing shops for all three wars,

Unknown Speaker 

that would be too expensive.

Unknown Speaker 

I so for the longest war. So this is why we've got two different sets of shelves in this bookshop, you know, yeah. you'd imagine you just have one kind of bookcase. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

So basically, as you walk into the bookshelf on the left and right hand side, you have this very minimalist shelf that's floating on the wall. And then right the shelf that's facing you, it's a floor standing. It's kind of like a billy bookshelf. But you know, it's a it's probably nicer looking. And that's a lot cheaper. And I thought it's better to have something that contrasts that looks totally different than, you know, to similar type of bookshops.

Unknown Speaker 

Okay, yeah. break some of the break some of the uniformity. Yes, exactly. So, so that's our bookshops. And I must say the the Niam the architects in it and ended up complimenting you and your choice of of bookcases, and in fact, also showed the design to a friend of mine who was an turns out to be an interior designer, and he was he was amazed at the look of these at least the first bookshelf. Yeah. That went in. So So that's, that's a bookshelf called telco it's a Polish company. And they advertised on Instagram. So Oh, maybe it's in Pinterest. Yeah, I think post is a great source once you you look for bookshelves and then you click on the pictures you use save some you like then they work out your taste and then advertise to you.

Unknown Speaker 

And

Unknown Speaker 

and these telco bookshelves, basically you can on their web website, you can say, you can completely customise how wide how tall, how many shelves you want, do you want doors, and then once you have the design, they tell you the price you pay, then they produce it and ship it to you. And everything is super simple to assemble. You just do it yourself. Yeah. So it's like really simple bespoke. Yeah. Okay, I would say on our bookshelf, still

Unknown Speaker 

cost over 4000 pounds. So it's still right. So we're double the original idea, right? Like the original 2000 pound idea was sort of double that. Yes. But we're not like, given what we just talked about, we could have been way beyond 4000 pounds. Yeah, at this stage. Yeah. I don't know I, because we're going to sell books. And we also want to be able to sell other items as well. Because the margins on books are quite thin. And so we don't want to limit our options. So we want the bookshop to look fancy, kind of fancy, not fancy to look tasteful. And so that we can sell other stuff as well. So I guess that's why we overspent a bit on ice shelves. Yeah. Right. Okay. I didn't want two people to walk in and think this shop, you know, is a budget shop, and they didn't feel like spending money.

Unknown Speaker 

Indeed, yeah. Yeah. That's,

Unknown Speaker 

that's

Unknown Speaker 

retail psychology here. Exactly.

Unknown Speaker 

Is that I mean, anything else you'd like to add to all the various bookshelves? Nope. What about you? Okay. Short, big? Because, I mean, beyond shelves, you there's there's a table in the middle of the space. And a future couple of chairs. Yeah. Now, is that is that just combined to form a, some sort of workstation? I mean, what's going on there? Yeah. Because you need to sit somewhere, right. You're going to work in the shop. And yeah, that's basically your your desk and your desk. And yeah, maybe you can talk about the two chairs. And, and then I write the table. Yeah, yes, a couple of couple of

Unknown Speaker 

couple of random chairs which were

Unknown Speaker 

provided on a long term loan from my father's company.

Unknown Speaker 

They seem to have a collection of chairs. And as a few years ago, they moved offices, they move to smaller offices, it means that they had to reduce their collection of chairs, they can add too many chairs for the new smaller premises. So I asked if we could you borrow a couple for our space because I thought they probably fit in quite nicely.

Unknown Speaker 

So out the the chair collection, we have a better, hairy better tire moulded shell side chair. Which one is that? Oh, that's the yellow one. Yeah. Yeah. With the polished Chrome Frame finish. And that's apparently 1960 design. Yeah. Harry bertoia. And then the, the turquoise one

Unknown Speaker 

is a Phillip stock, Dr. globe model, or Dr. glubb, isn't he? Which one's the turquoise one? I don't even remember that. Look, now. Is it turquoise green, you know, with amazing colours, but that I just somebody says because blue. The yellow one is so yellow. That's the only one I remember. Okay, so there's a blue chair. I see. And what's nice green was turquoise. I don't know it's green. Let's say it's green. It's probably green. It's probably too green to be turquoise. My mistake. And, and what he likes is Dr. glob, sorry, what legs? Does the grill? Yeah, what legs they have? It's got

Unknown Speaker 

aluminium. Okay, so the rear legs are aluminium. But the front legs are plastic. Are they so is this from the 80s 90s this is Yeah. 1988. Okay, I said she remember when my father got that one? Yeah, it's dead. Exciting. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

Anyway, so.

Unknown Speaker 

So, thank you. Thank you to thank you to them for the for the loan of the chairs. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

Which of course, means that now one can sit down.

Unknown Speaker 

But I would like to just add those two chairs are mighty uncomfortable to sit on. Really? Yes.

Unknown Speaker 

Gosh,

Unknown Speaker 

right.

Unknown Speaker 

We're gonna need to pad them out with something. I don't know. Yeah. But they look nice. Yeah, they look very, very nice. Yeah. But that's the thing though. These designers you know, they make chairs and then this kind of like, I don't know, I think I think most tears are not designed to be sat on you. No, no.

Unknown Speaker 

So

Unknown Speaker 

the law I mean, the last thing I was gonna ask you about it.

Unknown Speaker 

The space so the thing that sort of crowns the whole space is is the hanging light in the centre, which is a is quite the showpiece. Where did you find that event? So that I found in a

Unknown Speaker 

little it's kind of like, Is it like

Unknown Speaker 

a flying open book? Yes. Sort of half bird half book. Yeah. It's like a metal sculpture. It's quite, quite airy and light and hung from two pieces of very thin steel cables. from the ceiling. Yeah. So it looks like you have a book opening up. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

Where'd that come from? Just walking past a secondhand shop. In right, yeah, somewhere. I saw the thing before I knew we were going to have this bookshop, bookshop and I wanted yet light. And that light was very expensive. It's, I wrote it down somewhere. It's nearly 900 pounds. Right? So I thought, okay, that's out of the question that will be too extravagant.

Unknown Speaker 

But when we had, you know, have this project, then we then I thought, okay, so we need something interesting in the shop to make it instagrammable. I thought that's exactly what I thought, you know, this is the only thing I thought people might come in, even as they walk past us in the street. It might catch their attention. And do you think do you think they'll wonder if we got any of those things on sale?

Unknown Speaker 

Yeah, I'm sure. Like, if I saw it, I would ask. Yeah, yeah. And I did ask about, you know, the dealer, the secondhand furniture dealer, and he told me that this is probably to his knowledge, a unique piece. That was designed by a Swedish designer. I don't have the name for some clients in the 60s. Right, right. Right. Right. So we need to do a bit of research. Yeah, that that was his sales. Research. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

Okay. Well, we didn't talk about the table.

Unknown Speaker 

Yeah, what's happening with the table, it's the proudest achievement I have. So it's a it's a circular round table. And

Unknown Speaker 

again, it's from Instagram, there is a French company called tip toe, they make the technical term I think, is called f clamp, table legs. So a clamp is something

Unknown Speaker 

that holds or holds or grabs something. So these table legs is like a letter F. And then you can actually fit the F opening

Unknown Speaker 

to any tabletop that you may have yourself and then you can screw it tight. So in basically like a workman would use f clamps to clamp anything, but these ones are actually nice looking. And

Unknown Speaker 

so basically, they are universal table legs.

Unknown Speaker 

So you can order for circular table again, we can save on the cost. We only need three legs for a circular table, whereas if it's a they just go to the legs individually. Yeah, well, or three in Yeah, I ordered the legs from from tiptoe.

Unknown Speaker 

They were posted from France. They are they're actually Alright, the price it's about 55 pounds each so on

Unknown Speaker 

and, and we save on the tax as well. So it's actually less than 55 to us.

Unknown Speaker 

And then the table top the round circular disk top is from the cheapest shop in the UK called Argos. And that's like 100 pounds for a 1.2 metre wide circular table top. But that came in a wooden colour, like a natural key light or oak colour. And I painted it with the surplus floor paint we have the grey colour and the rack as it matches the floor. So our table and the floor is the same colour but that's the designer that's the architects idea.

Unknown Speaker 

Right? Yeah, they you executed it or I executed it terribly. I think you would call it I think you got the clamps. You got the actual piece of wood. Yeah. And then you painted it. I couldn't I painted three coats and I couldn't get it to look very smooth. So what happened was, in the end, I took a sandpaper and I sanded down the surface. So the table already

Unknown Speaker 

He looks kind of worn out a little bit worn out. And tired. You may not I mean, we just did. Yeah. Once we put lots of books on it. Yeah, you You Won't you won't notice he won't notice.

Unknown Speaker 

All right. Yeah, indeed. Yeah. That Yeah, I think we've covered it all. Pretty much. Yeah. Right. So that's the design.

Unknown Speaker 

Essentially it. Yeah. And some some good brands and quite good value for money. brands that, yeah, if you guys are interested to buy these products, you can take a look. I recommend them. Sure. Are we going to include some links? or? Yeah, we're gonna put put some links. Yeah, I look at I want to also add, you know, with those kryptonite crossing shelves that's floating. So you those shelves are screwed into the wall. So they are,

Unknown Speaker 

you know, like 20 screws.

Unknown Speaker 

And if you're going to put books on them, those walls were strengthened, especially. So a builder have put a 20 Cm perhaps plywood against what their reward was there originally, and then painted the whole thing. So we have an extra wooden layer for the so the nails can have some. What would you call it a bite to catch? Oh, I see. Yeah, thing. I don't know. depth. It's depth. Yeah. So you can actually go in there and then take the weight.

Unknown Speaker 

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, because Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We don't want any collapse in bookshelves.

Unknown Speaker 

Nope, not at all. Yeah. most embarrassing.

Unknown Speaker 

The shop now it looks beautiful. Because it has no books and no customers. So it looks very clean.

Unknown Speaker 

No browsers. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

Yeah, hopefully it won't. It won't continue to be like that. But at this rate, who knows? Given that we're, yeah, we're still very much in lockdown. Yeah. So have you have you have a word? An interesting English word for for this audience reading English word. Goodness gracious. Sure. Yeah, I have a word. So I was thinking as it's Chinese New Year, and you will all be receiving some money

Unknown Speaker 

with all my late look at you know, another word for money, perhaps something that could be considered slang, you know, not, not what we'd say Queen's English.

Unknown Speaker 

And the hundreds of the plenty of different terms for money, but one of them we thought would be interesting is quid.

Unknown Speaker 

Especially as in lungu. Qu ID to EU ID in London. You know, people be just to, you know, to say, rather than, say two pounds might say it's two quid, three quid or whatever. 500 quid, there's no, really? Yeah, until you get into probably lots of zeros. Or you might even say that, you know, still say a million quid. Yes. Interestingly, you might say a million quid. But if you're 10,000, you wouldn't say 10,000 quid you'd be saying 10 grand. So there's a bit where sort of, you know, you might say in the hundreds, you're still on quid, but then once you get to be on the 1000 you might be talking about grand. And then when you reach a million, you'd probably be back on a million quid. Okay, would you reckon? I mean, I don't know. I've never really heard anyone talk about 1000 you know, 100,000 quid, you're right. So when when we were in English class, we were told British money is pounds. And yeah, but when you come to England, nobody actually says this is three pounds. They would say three quid. Can you can you lend me five quid? So it's a good way to know.

Unknown Speaker 

And what Richard mentioned is

Unknown Speaker 

1000 quid is

Unknown Speaker 

a grant

Unknown Speaker 

right? So this time is one grand one grand, grand assuming 1000 Yeah, I think short 5000 is five grand. Yeah, so quit and grant the quit doesn't doesn't end in Chinese. Don't you talk about quiet. Yeah, we say quiet quiet. And creating brand that you don't put SS at the end. I know you don't say yeah, you don't talk say one quit two. Yeah. Two quids is just quit.

Unknown Speaker 

Well, yeah, yeah, whereas you might say one pound two pounds. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

But interesting. I think it's also interesting if you visit North America, they don't understand quid, but they do understand grand. They say grand as well. Yeah, they'll say grand. Yeah. Yeah, but they won't. Yeah, quid. Yeah, no, don't say bucks. bucks. Oh, exactly quit his back. Yeah, yes, but the JC one buck two bucks. Yes. Yeah, I see. Yeah, they pluraleyes it. Yeah. But I don't know whether they say a tenner and a fiver. Oh, five quid into a fiver thing that Yeah. But do they talk in like, you know, whatever it is. Hamilton's and

Unknown Speaker 

the 100 Franklin Franklin. Benjamin, even Benjamin? Oh, no, you should tell us about that word. What is up in Latin? What do you mean what is it been Loudon? You know, like, Benjamin Franklin is on the $100. Bill. Yeah, that's 100. So people say one Franklin or one Benjamin? I don't know. Yeah. In Europe, you have 500 euro note? Cat. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't you tell me that's called a binladin? I did I yes. Like as terrorists etc. A mass 500 euro notes? Yes. Rather than $100. Rather than Benjamin's. They'd rather have 500 euro notes. You don't remember this? Yeah, I might have known this and then forgotten about it. Yeah. Well, anyway, so I think that that's really interesting. It's a 500 pound or sorry, 500. euro note is a binladin. Okay, right. Okay. I see what you mean. So you got 500 has been logged in $100. Benjamin? Yeah. And then otherwise, we got one quit to quit. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

But just a tip. If you visit Europe don't bring any bin Laden's nobody accepts them.

Unknown Speaker 

It's Yeah, let's say you see any of them. Yeah, yeah, it's no it's in France. It's illegal now.

Unknown Speaker 

Really? Yeah. Wow. You don't remember last time I had up in London and I had to visit the Bank of France. Two weeks to break it up. Really? Oh, yeah. That rings a bell. Like Excuse me. I've got too many been lardons

Unknown Speaker 

Can you give me give me a few days something smaller. How about a couple of you know a few Benjamin's? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 

Anyway, I'm not sure people say Benjamins. But. Well, thank you very much a joke about Benjamin's famous song. It's all about the Benjamins baby. Oh, I see. Okay, sorry. Yeah. Okay, that's true for you, as well. I mean, we, you know, we've gone off course from quid.

Unknown Speaker 

Alright. Okay. Let's call it tonight. Thank you, Richard. Hello. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you all. Let's talk next month. Okay. Ciao. Ciao.

Unknown Speaker 

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这期 Unpack 栏目我分享阅读奥地利/英国哲学家 Karl Popper 的 The Poverty of Historicism。这里是这期节目的预览部分，完整节目一共 45 分钟，只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com，购买赞助人计划后，在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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本期节目益康糯米和方曌聊聊这周在社交媒体和美股圈发生的一场“散户大胜金融哥斯拉”的有趣事件，希望大家能多赚点钱！

节目中提到的一些信息：

/wallstreetbets 论坛

http://reddit.com/wallstreetbets

纽约时报对 GameStop 事件的技术小结

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/business/gamestop-stock-market.html

或许是英文里最长的单词

Anti-establishmentarianism

https://www.econlib.org/archives/2017/05/antiestablishme.html

杨奎松：怎么会有人这样写历史？——评金一南《苦难辉煌》

http://www.aisixiang.com/data/43890.html

英剧「毒蛇」The Serpent

https://movie.douban.com/subject/27119312/

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这期调戏栏目我们讨论在 London Hammersmith Lyric Theatre 编排的一套印度版本的「玩偶之家」A Doll's House。易卜生是19世纪晚期组重要的挪威剧作家，他 1879 年的话剧 Et dukkehjem/A Doll's house/玩偶之家上演之后，与其说是批判或呼吁社会改革，不如说把人们既定观念中的社会和家庭关系轰炸得体无完肤。

英文版/中文版/印度版人物名称对照

Nora/娜拉/Niru

Torvald/托瓦德/Tom

Dr. Rand/蓝克医生/Dr. Rank

Kristine/克里斯蒂娜/Mrs Lahir

Krogstad/克洛斯塔/Das

节目中提到的作品信息

话剧

玩偶之家，Lyric Theatre

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Xp4y1S7FJ

Lyric 剧院版本的官方介绍

https://lyric.co.uk/shows/a-dolls-house/

演讲

娜（nuo）拉出走后怎样，鲁迅

https://www.marxists.org/chinese/reference-books/luxun/01/018.htm

文化土豆之前的节目

温夫人的扇子，王尔德

http://dwz.date/dZg3

非虚构

易卜生书信演讲集，易卜生

https://book.douban.com/subject/5348061/

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这期误读会我们聊聊 John le Carré 的卡拉三部曲之二，「荣誉学生」The Honourable Schoolboy。这是一本发生在 1970 年代香港和东南亚的经典间谍小说。嘉宾是高高和张宇凌。

节目中提到的作品信息:

小说

荣誉学生，约翰·勒卡雷

https://book.douban.com/subject/3662544/

卡拉/史迈利三部曲的另外两部小说是

锅匠，裁缝，士兵，间谍

https://book.douban.com/subject/10529972/

史迈利的人马

https://book.douban.com/subject/3662542/

小说

柏林谍影 The spy who came in from the cold，勒卡雷

https://book.douban.com/subject/26389907/

小说

夜班经理，The Night Manager, 勒卡雷

https://book.douban.com/subject/30212811/

小说

女鼓手，The Little Drummer Girl，勒卡雷

https://book.douban.com/subject/30480992/

小说

Agent Running in the Field: A Novel，勒卡雷

https://book.douban.com/subject/33125997/

回忆录

鸽子隧道，勒卡雷

https://book.douban.com/subject/30463116/

英剧

夜班经理，The Night Manager，BBC

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3610655/

英剧

女鼓手，The Little Drummer Girl，AMC

https://movie.douban.com/subject/27190054/

电影

柏林谍影，Richard Burton

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293190/

电影

锅匠，裁缝，士兵，间谍（2011），Gary Oldman

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3338851/

英剧

锅匠，裁缝，士兵，间谍（1979），Alex Guiness

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1438520/

法剧

传奇办公室 Le Bureau des Légends，Canal+

https://movie.douban.com/subject/26379912/

法剧

精忠报国 Au service de la France，Netflix

https://movie.douban.com/subject/26711470/

中剧

潜伏，姜伟

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3314870/

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这期节目主播和Richard介绍我们是如何为一个面积很有限的小书店选书的。这期节目依然适用慢速、简单英文录制，下面是我们的录音稿文字，是通过 otter.ai 整理，希望对大家有所帮助。

Yifan 

Did you listen to the last episode, your first podcast? 

Richard 

Once I could bet to hear myself recorded?

Yifan 

How many times?

Richard 

Once? All right, did you show this to your parents? Nope. Your girlfriend? Nobody? I don't think, Oh, actually, no, my girlfriend sent the culture potato podcast link to one of her friends. Just to tell him about, oh, we're doing this bookshop and I'm doing you know, we're doing this bookshop together. And this is a guy who's like, an I was obsessed, well obsessed with all sorts of things. But when she knew him, when the window in the living together, he was obsessed with learning Mandarin. So she said, Oh, here's a podcast for you. It's Richard's friends podcast. And then she probably said the list and maybe further down he saw, you might have seen because you did two more episodes to three more episodes since. So he might have noticed that one. Okay, I don't know if he went there.

Yifan 

Okay, so this week, we want to talk about our book choices, you know, as a bookshop, how we choose books. But before we get into all that, can you talk about perhaps the most memorable book you read in 2020? Well,

the book I've chosen for this is probably it will be crashed by Adam Tooze, which is a book about the financial crisis of 2008. And it actually came out in 2018, as a 10 year anniversary, but I finally read it during lockdown. He's a professor of financial history. So there's a lot of data, a lot of material, yet it reads like a thriller.

So it's heading to a Netflix.

Yeah, it could, it could head to Netflix. But I'm thinking it also, didn't you read? too big to fail? Yes, I did. When it came out, and maybe it's like that as well. Although, because then that isn't that supposed to be super readable and reads like a thriller and so forth? and Netflix material, potentially?

Yeah. Is that that's even HBO material? I would say.

Yeah. So yeah, that probably finally getting around to reading that, from one year from one economic crisis to a health crisis.

And what is the conclusion? Has anything changed? In the 10 years? Since?

I'm not sure, really, there's a bit of optimism, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Okay. But personally, in the last 10 years, you know, one of the big actors in the 2008 financial crisis is Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan. And over the last 10 odd years, I have seen a big transformation in his attitude and to a certain extent, reputation. He has embraced at least superficially. A lot of the new ideas that's that was fermenting in the business world. Yeah. The moving away from maximising shareholder value to to more of a socialist outlook, to the extent that it is possible that, you know, the care for society for employees. I don't know, does the book talk about this?

Richard 

No, no, no, no, not not really less of a thing.

Yifan 

So even if England is still in full lockdown mode, however, in the background, we are busying you know, compiling lists of books who are going to order and to to fill our shelves. So as the general manager, Richard, can you talk about how you are approaching this, how we are picking our books and how we are presenting it to them to our customers?

Richard 

Sure, looking at the fact that we're somewhat constricted by space, and we obviously can't stock every single book that's out there and buy every single genre, like you would in a big bookshop with obviously selecting what we like, but also books that people think are relevant, whether they're classic works of literature, or authoritative works of nonfiction. And some of these recommendations, we're also taking from what we've read in reviews or whether it's from people discussing books in science. on social media, or on podcasts, or even books that public figures recommend.

Yifan 

So in a way we are mimicking, or were thinking about how most general readers would come across a book, they might have read it in the newspaper or through word of mouth, or, you know, their favourite YouTubers talking about it. That's the that's the idea.

Richard 

Yeah. And maybe with a certain emphasis on various influences, who recommend books, whether again, the, their newspapers, or, you know, traditional book reviewers, like the London Review of Books, or the times literary supplement, to YouTubers who review books, or public figures, you publish lists of books, and so forth.

Yifan 

 Cool. I imagine we might even organise our bookshelves according to these influencers who recommend the books. And I know that for this week's programme you have prepared, for example, book lists that you know, that's right, wait, we are working on? Can you briefly introduce the four book lists?

Richard 

So we got two lists by public figures, probably none of them need much introduction. One is Bill Gates, the formerly richest man in the world. The other one is Barack Obama, formerly the American president, who periodically published their lists of books that they've recently read, as it was the end of 2020. They both did a round up and published the list of books for Christmas. So those are those two lists, and then rather differently, we're going to talk about a radio programme start the week, which is a key radio programme or podcast from the BBC, that talks about books or that talks to people who have written books, and introduces the subject matter. And then one final list will be by a YouTuber, who presents and reviews, various works of fiction, which could be considered classics, 20th century classics or even, you know, even cult classic books.

Yifan 

What's the name of this YouTuber?

Richard 

So yeah, his name is so his YouTube channel is better than food. And he's a man named Clifford Lee Sargent. And he lives he seems to periodically move about America. I think the latest count us in Portland, Oregon.

Yifan 

Yeah, so let's dive into the these four very different and hopefully interesting book lists to give our audience that flavour. Let's start with Bill Gates, Bill Gates. I imagine he would. He's a tech guy. And he's, since he left Microsoft. He's running a globally powerful foundation. He's also at the centre of some of the of the most topical conspiracy theories around.

Richard 

Yeah,

Yifan 

it's it's no laughing matter. But what kind of books has Bill Gates chosen? In 2020?

Richard 

Yeah, sure. So he's got five books. They're all nonfiction, all on different topics. But one you could say is, is somewhat related to Black Lives Matter. It's called The New Jim Crow: Mass incarceration in the age of colorblindness by Michelle Alexander. Jim Crow being the the laws the racial segregation laws that used to apply in the American deep south. Another title is range why generalists triumph in a specialised world by David Epstein. Then we got the splendid and the vile, a saga of Churchill family and defiance during the Blitz by Eric Larson, the spy in the traitor, the greatest espionage story of the Cold War by Ben MacIntyre. And then finally, we have breath from salt, a deadly genetic disease, a new era in science and the patients and families who changed medicine by bcl two ready. So these are the five books. So one of them the splendid and the vile of saga of Churchill family and defiance during the Blitz by Eric Larsen, which is set up in 1940s 1942. When London and other cities in Britain were bombed by the German Air Force. I think he ties this into sort of how people experience the Blitz. In a kind of parallel way to how people are experiencing lockdown due to COVID. You know, as he says the the fear and the anxiety they felt, even if probably the Blitz was a lot more frightening than even COVID. Now we got the book about generalists range where generalists triumph in a specialised world, where he argues companies do better off employing people who have more breadth than people, then having too many people focused on a very narrow subject. For instance, I think Roger Federer seems to be the the author's a big example of how he started playing several sports before really becoming a big tennis star. Breath from Salt at a deadly genetic disease, a new era in science and the patients and families who changed medicine. Sorry, the subject matter of this book is a pet project of his in that it's about research into cystic fibrosis, which is something he's been involved in a message of hope, I suppose. Is there any would appeal to you?

Yifan 

Not really, no. Not at all, perhaps the Ben MacIntyre book on the spy and the traitor but in a way I would, I would just Google and Wikipedia, you know, the spies name, and read all about it. You know, but one interesting I would say is, I think Bill Gates is a massively respected figure in the tech world and beyond. And he's someone a nerd, turned humanitarian. And sometimes we imagine nerds or people in Silicon Valley to be reading about coding about big trends in the industry. And right, yeah, or about future, right, like about gurus books about the future. But I think really the best minds in tech, like the best minds in business, they really have a very wide range of appetites in, in their reading, and I think this list illustrates that quite well. Yeah. Especially if he's in the business of giving money out to, to solve the world's problems. He needs to understand the world's problems and the context in which they arise. And the underlying mechanisms or just to understand the world better and deeper. And I think this Yeah, I would say it's a it's a good list. Personally. It's not my interest for lockdown reading. Yeah. But but then let's move to a somewhat perhaps different it's a very different person, you know, by no means a nerd. So it's President Obama.

What What has he been reading?

Maybe first thing we should say about Obama is that he's now he's got his new book out, which is done very well. And he sees himself as very much a man of a man of letters, somebody who'd like you. He likes his books he's seriously into he's always been into reading a thoughtful person, perhaps a thoughtful person. Yeah. And he looked at his list, we won't go through the whole thing. There are many more titles than Bill Gates. 15, let's say, a mix of fiction and nonfiction. A lot of them I'd say, probably very, for an American president, very American centric, a lot to do the American experience whether it's fictionalised or, or not. So there's a Chinese American perspective story. There's, you know, South Asian American, there's obviously an afro American, that kind of drive. Otherwise, there are more say, more straight non fiction in to do again, with this one. It looks interesting cast, the origins of our discontents. But Isabel Wilkinson Wilkerson's right, where she contracts a sort of social and Rachel describes the social and racial system in America and includes it or uses the caste system in India, as well as Nazi Germany to describe Yeah, sociological and racial differences in America. There's even a debut on here. Fiction Again, I think it's a lustre by Raven leahlani, which I think is add some, some good reviews some high praise about a young Afro American woman in New York again in the midst of all that's going on at the moment, politically. Yeah, there's also a thing about Latino or Latin x Americans. And this is a work of nonfiction as somebody who's surveyed undocumented Americans, which is the title of the book, the undocumented Americans by capital up codenamed Villa a few cents you. Aside from that there's also a book about the twilight of democracy, the failure of politics and the parting of friends by Anna Applebaum.

I have this book, Anne Applebaum.

Maybe I miss wrote it. I don't know. We can double check that,

because she's the famous author wrote about the gulags in Russia. Yeah. And she's like the only conservative columnist in the New York Times for a while I think. All right. I want to pick out something that you mentioned what people call in quotation mark the American experience. Yeah. You know, it's about, for example, they C Pam Zhang, how much of these hills is gold? I know that she's a, she's an immigrant. She's part of an immigrant family from Beijing. But this is a fiction. I think it goes back in history. It's about how a Chinese family during during the Gold Rush, right. That's right. And there are, as you say, that the undocumented Americans. So it's about searching for a better life dealing with the inequalities in America, and about pursuing the American dream, I suppose. Yeah. Considering Obama's political background, and racial background. I'm not criticising Bill Gates. Bill Gates, doesn't talk about maybe these issues are too controversial. I don't know.

Richard 

Yeah. What do you have the Michelle Alexander book, and I suppose what I mean, Obama, the other hand doesn't have much science or anything to, you know, in that in that kind of realm. He's also got this the splendid and the vile, the saga of church or family in defiance stream, the Blitz by Erik Larson. So Bill Gates and Obama cross over on that book. Yeah. What was I gonna say? Oh, yeah, there's one book which is set in Hawaii. Right. Yeah. which follows his book about his own upbringing there. And that is sharks in the time of saviours by kawhi and kawhi. Strong Washburn? interesting name. Yeah. kawhi. Sounds like my idea of somebody from Hawaii, but I don't know. Right?

Yifan 

Not Japan. Okay.

Richard 

Well, yeah, exactly. I'm not sure what else to add, it seems like, you know, a very sort of American presidents list, sort of. Except Now, having said that thinking if Trump Look, look, look nothing like this.

Yifan 

I think Trump is reading legal defence for Dummies. How to appeal this court. Anyway. Let's move on. You prepared another two lists that's coming from the podcast, YouTube. Universe, can you shall we start with start the week the you mentioned, it's a BBC programme. Can you talk about what kind of podcasts This is?

Richard 

Yes, so this is probably a key per gramme for books on the BBC. I mean, it's every Monday at 9am in the morning, after they've done the whole breakfast news kind of show, hence, it's called start the week. And it's used to be presented by Andrew Marr, and now he rotates with other presenters. He's a journalist himself, and he picks every week. A number of guests who talk about a subject matter or they talk about different subjects matters. And often, most of that, not always, but often they've written a book, which ties in to the subject under discussion. A lot of the time he has academics and journalists, so we're looking at more nonfiction. However, occasionally, he also has fiction writers. Probably the you know, the biggest names that you recently had down Hutch link and Margaret Atwood

Yifan 

giving us a weekly programme. So you know, their list is quite long. So even for 2020 we may have dozens of books can you pick out a few that that are quite representative of the kind of issues the programme is interested in? And yeah, I would just add that Andrew Marr made and honourable appearance on cultural potato in our episode talking about a Maoism that was a paid for programme unpacked Maoist Maoism, a global history in that episode, when Andrew Marr was a student, he was a committed communist fanatic. And he wrote during the Cultural Revolution to the Chinese Embassy in London requesting a free case of Mao's little red books to share with his fellow students. Anyway, so yeah, give us some notable books.

Richard 

Yeah, yeah, he, for instance, he had a book where they talked about sort of farming and what can we say country? Well, country nature? Yeah, really. And one of the books on there was a book called entangled life by Merlin Sheldrake, and this is about funghi. This band was just talking about the mushrooms, mushrooms, different mushrooms, and what they can teach us. Something else we've had, so maybe more in conjunction with black lives matter. He had the biography of a Haitian revolutionary of the 19th century. Black Spartacus, the life of Toussaint l'ouverture by Sudhir Hazara Singh, and in conversation with olivette hotelli, who's written a book called Africans, Europeans, an untold history. 

Yifan 

Interesting I see on the on the list, there's a title called China's good war by Rhino jmeter. What which war is this about? 

Richard 

Rana Mitter previously wrote about the second world war again in the Second World War.

Yifan 

Oh, I think I know. Yes, yes. This is about how the West often forgets about China

Richard 

 Ok yeah that's it. China in the global order? That was

Yifan 

Yeah. So it seems that this and I see that there's a new translation of the Aeneid. It's in a way quite a European or British list that you know, it is a title called English pastoral that that's the farming book about mushroom. about these, you know, like gardening, artful farming. There's a book is it is there a book by Hitler? And even you know, classic study is like a very British thing as well. Yeah. So start the week strikes me as compared to the other two are definitely more UK. Not I wouldn't say UK centric. But definitely the taste is

Richard 

definitely more so than Barack Obama. Yeah, most definitely. You could say yeah, this is what sort of thinking people or you know, educated people in in Britain might be likely to read is a is going to be on here. Yeah,

Yifan 

let's go to the last list. This is a YouTuber you mentioned called better than food to the channel is

Richard 

the channel is better than food. And by as he says his host, Clifford, US hosts Clifford Lee Sargent. So this I came to having read, I'd been actually somebody had told me sort of a while back George Bataille story of the eye, which I don't know if you've read it.

Yifan 

No, I have not read any of his books

Richard 

It's very short. When it came out. It was probably a shocking story. shocking thing to write. I found it very intriguing. And I wanted to find out more. And somehow ended up on YouTube and came across this person talking about how he wanted to adapt it into the film, which I thought was completely crazy was bonkers. I don't think you're anywhere with that. But essentially, I found then found his channel. He at least talked about story of the eye and gave me his insights, which I thought were interesting. His premise is that, you know, in our lifetime, how many books is one going to read especially if you just stick to fiction and so He has this measure. Is the book better than food? Oh, I see. Right see one needs food to survive. Yeah. So, so the measure is is the book better than food? So at the end, he might say better than food? Or he might just say better than food? I don't think so. Some of the titles or merps may be more obscured so some of the titles or maybe famous famous either forgotten books or bit more forgotten or not necessarily known in the English speaking world because that's another thing he has for somebody, let's say is an English speaker is all these got a lot of a lot of books on that that are in that he's reading in translation in English. And that's unusual, because you know, the English speaking book world can be quite narrow minded. Always, always think about, you know, when they announced the Nobel Prize for Literature, usually nobody nobody in this country's heard of who who the winner is. Yes, and so I think a lot of these books are kind of you could say 20th century classics maybe some of them you could say a cult classics sort of book that not not necessarily like there's sort of liked by you know people in in the know as it were.

Yifan 

Can you give us some examples of these cult classics?

Richard 

But you even the George Bataille story I'd say is a good you know, is what is the story about? I think that's a that's another podcast entirely. Let's not go there. In a way you could say the story of the I two best thing to sum it up. I was thinking about it just now. You could say it's like a book form of a Salvador Dali painting. And even you know, you think of like, what's that film? He made? The slicing slicing eyeballs?

un chien andalou

Yeah, un chien andalou. Y eah, it ties into that whole kind of milleu. And. Bataille was first part of those surrealists

Yifan 

strange and disgusting 

Richard 

Yeah, strange and disgusting. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the things that probably the obvious ones would be things like jack Kerouac on the road. What's it? Blood meridian is Yeah, there's a few Mishima Confessions of a mask. Fight Club. Chuck Palahniuk, they'll probably be like, at least a you know, a recent cult book,

Yifan 

which one was that sorry?

Richard 

Fight Club Palahniuk, which was turned into that film in what in the late 90s. So a lot of these books as well, they link so he might see a lot more lashonda Moldova, which might? Again, you'd say that cult in the sense that a lot. That's a book that inspired a lot of people on the list, like, say, George Bataille. Yeah, like the most of the surrealists, but might not necessarily be known if you hadn't read these authors or knew much about the surrealist writers. And so he kind of goes up, he goes up the kind of what's it called? The sort of family tree of literature in a way.

Yifan 

And

yeah, I'm just thinking about from, like, you know, when we have his collection in the bookshop, like, Who are they for? And could you say that his list is a pretentious list?

Yeah, maybe you could say it's a bit pretentious. I think the pretention here is really to just, yeah, to try and read things that actually matter, or they're gonna leave an impression on you. Yeah. And again, they're also the colour aspect is important. Because also, you know, if you want to be part of, you know, of a club as it were of a colorist, and you know, know, what, certain people what books certain people have read, you know, this is a way of, yeah, getting in there. Yeah, I don't know how to sort of explain but meet perhaps the sort of people who are, there are tea because, you know, like, artists who is I like to reference, like, Great authors, or even more obscure authors like this, you know, there's a certain kind of cachet about like, referencing very, very obscure and niche artists of all sorts, whether they're writers or others.

Yeah, and I would say, you know, this list is isn't arty list potential slash artists in a good way. In that these are authors who are trying who in you know, in their time, they were trying to do new things, and

you're trying to experimental

Yeah, they're not in one way or another. Right, a popular novel. I think none of these were We're written thinking, that's write a book to make money.

Richard 

Exactly. I mean, some of these writers remain pretty obscure.

Yifan 

So that concludes our four lists as examples of, of how we how we pick our books. And the very last item before the end of the programme is, you know, like Word of, is a good word of the month or just to introduce a fun English word to our listeners. Well,

I just used five minutes ago, is the word bonkers, right? essentially means crazy. And it's spelt

B o n k e r s.

Richard 

There we are. If something's bonkers. It's crazy. It boggles the mind. 

Yifan 

And is that the same as bananas? No. 

Richard 

That's true. Yeah. Bananas. It's completely bananas.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yifan 

Okay. Two words. bountiful. And bananas. It's bananas. exactly the same as, as the bananas that you eat. I don't know. Why do people think bananas are crazy?

Richard 

They usually say going bananas, don't you?

Yifan 

Yeah. Why is that? I wonder? Maybe we should find out. Bananas are bonkers. Okay. All righty. That's another interesting word. All righty. All righty. This is the second programme talking about book lists in Hoxton books. Our bookshop is still not open yet. thanks for bearing with us.

Thank you.

Okay, Cheers.

Bye.

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美国当代中国政治研究的奠基人 A Doak Barnett 鲍大可 1947-1949 年走访了国统区的大部分地方，进行了深入细致的调查研究，撰写了一本详细记录新中国成立前中国城市和农村政治经济生活风貌的珍贵作品。这本名为 China On The Eve of Communist Takeover 就是这期 Unpack 栏目要分享的内容。 这里是这期节目的预览部分，完整节目一共 45 分钟，只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com，购买赞助人计划后，在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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这周是我们2020年的圣诞节目，我们聊一部非常轻松欢快对白妙趣横生的的话剧：Lady Windemere‘s Fan，「温夫人的扇子」，剧作家是爱尔兰才子奥斯卡·王尔德 Oscar Wilde。嘉宾是 Gigi 和方曌。这部剧在B站可以看到录像版本。

节目中提到的作品信息

话剧

温夫人的扇子，王尔德

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hW411g7vB

电影

快乐王子 The Happy Prince，王尔德

https://movie.douban.com/subject/11524958/

小说

道林格雷的画像，王尔德

https://book.douban.com/subject/26912631/

播客

不然就做一个颓废的美男子，文化土豆

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000423043461

王德的其他话剧分别是：

莎乐美 Salome

理想丈夫 An Ideal Husband

不可儿戏 The Importance of Being Ernest

无足轻重的女人 A Woman of No Importance

非虚构

The Rest Is Noise，Alex Ross

https://book.douban.com/subject/3148771/

歌剧

莎乐美，Richard Strauss

https://movie.douban.com/subject/25780373/

传记

王尔德传，Ricahrd Ellmann

https://book.douban.com/subject/25986499/

文章

百年沉浮：王尔德在中国的文学命运，祁寿华

https://www.britishlibrary.cn/zh-cn/articles/the-importance-of-being-oscar-wilde-rise-and-fall-of-wildes-literary-fortune-in-china/

文章

一笑百年扇底风──《温夫人的扇子》百年纪念，余光中

https://www.britishlibrary.cn/zh-cn/articles/notes-on-lady-windermeres-fan-100-years-anniversary/

文章

From Chinese Wisdom to Irish Wit: Zhuangzi and Oscar Wilde, Jerusha McCormack

https://www.jstor.org/stable/25505043

编辑推荐

舞台剧

Official Dick Whittington - A Pantomine for 2020, National Theatre

https://youtu.be/3LkdSBlkwbU

情景剧

Dinner For One， Freddie Frinton & Mary Warden

https://youtu.be/BN9edpdCH7c

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这期节目我们一起砍砍王朔 1987 年的中篇小说「顽主」。「顽主」同时也是王朔的一步中篇小说集的名字。加班是张宇凌和高高。

节目中提到的作品信息：

王朔的中篇小说集「顽主」里包括：

「顽主」、「一点儿正经没有」、「你不是一个俗人」、「许叶」、「动物凶猛」

https://book.douban.com/subject/1151876/

电影

「顽主」，米家山

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1307690/

电视剧

「编辑部的故事」，王朔/马未都/冯小刚

https://movie.douban.com/subject/2154390/

电视剧

「我爱我家」，梁左，英达

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3901388/

小说

「麦田守望者」，塞林格

https://book.douban.com/subject/2117062/

电影

「阳光灿烂的日子」，姜文

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291875/

访谈

锵锵三人行，王朔嘉宾

https://youtu.be/J3pnBBkWH0o

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伴随益康糯米和朋友理查德在伦敦的小书店项目 Hoxton Books 的启动，文化土豆决定尝试在未来几个月尝试每月录制一期慢速简单英语的节目，记录书店的成长，也希望大部分文化土豆的听众能够跟上。这期节目是我们第一次录制，希望大家多提意见。

节目中提到的作品信息：

Bitter Sweet Symphony by The Verve

https://youtu.be/1lyu1KKwC74

为了帮助部分听众的理解，下面是 Otter.ai 制作的文字整理。（两人同时说话时错误比较多，但是基本够用！）

Yifan 0:00

Welcome to culture potato, a new hope this is a brand new, slow English speaking podcast where my friend Richard and I are going to talk about our brand new project a bookshop in London. Yay, Hi Richard!

Richard 0:19

Hello

Yifan 0:20

Could you introduce yourself to our listeners, and maybe say one interesting thing about our friendship.

Richard 0:28

So Hello, everyone. My name is Richard. I've been a friend of the fans for about 15 years. He described me as bookish because I grew up amongst lots of books. My father's in the book business. I've worked in bookshops, I've worked in publishing companies. I've even worked for my father. And I'm always always wanting to buy books and reading them. So that's roughly why I'm here.

Yifan 1:05

And I just want to add until very recently, because we have to work on this bookshop project. Richard had no internet at home.

Yeah, that's right. Indeed.

No Internet how hardcore?

Richard?

Richard 1:26

Yeah, sceptical of all the inventions after the book. So if and what's the what's the latest? Or at least how, how is the bookshop looking? How are the how's the the site progressing towards completion?

Yifan 1:43

So, I have been in this project, our division of labour or what each of us do is I have been taking charge on the decoration, buildings work of the bookshop, while Richard is preparing on the content and what books to choose.

So in the last month, I have been working with builders and interior designer on the site, our bookshop is tiny, it's about 25 or 30 at a push maybe 25 square metres somewhere in England, it's probably in square feet have no idea what what that is.

We currently have strengthened all the walls to make it stronger because we have some hanging bookshops. So we have one bookshelf that's freestanding, and two shelves are hanging so screwed on to the war. So the war needs to be able to bear heavy weight strong. Yeah, yeah. The builders have put plaster on the war now so it's now painted white. But we are going to paint it give it another coat of paint. So we have been choosing paint colours over the last week. I forget what colour we have settled on.

Richard 3:11

I think it was called something like ash grey. And what was it?

Yifan 3:15

No that's for the floor.

Richard 3:17

No. As Gray 's for the wall and for the full floor was a good light

Cree or something

Yifan 3:24

scree

Richard 3:24

scree.

Yifan 3:25

Okay, so we have a concrete looking floor and we have a bluish I think it's not is it gray to me Yes. blueish wall anyway. Yeah. yet to be done are lights, installing spotlights and a hanging pendant light in the middle. That looks like a book actually. You haven't seen them.

Richard 3:51

I've only seen photos. Okay, it was very nice. very tasteful.

Yifan 3:56

That's half of our budget

Richard 3:57

as as as is to be expected from you.

Yifan 4:00

And then I have ordered the checkout machine. So it's like an iPod iPad? No, it's like an iPhone thing where people can swipe their credit card or contactless card and I'm hoping to get alipay and WeChat pay a machine to do that as well because there are a lot of Chinese students in London who may benefit from that or we may benefit from that.

Richard 4:24

We may right.

Yifan 4:27

What else is to be done? I think the toilet Yeah, we have a small toilet and the toilet needs to be

Richard 4:34

very important. Especially with Coronavirus with water. There are no public glues, no public toilets,

Yifan 4:42

but maybe we shouldn't say that we have a toilet. It's not a public toilet.

Richard 4:46

There's no McDonald's but otherwise we can't.

Yifan 4:48

When people ask we have no toilet.

Richard 4:50

People ask us, we have no toilets, but we definitely need

Yifan 4:53

your listener for culture potato Okay, so this Is our shop our shop is in an in an area called Hoxton. That's h o x to n. Hoxton. That's in East London. So Richard, why don't you you are a West Londoner, tell us about an East London and Hoxton.

Richard 5:15

Yeah, I was actually born not very far from the shot but by the time I was four years old, my parents moved west. But yeah, it was the West London is where, you know, typically is thought of more affluent than the east and so forth. So East London, Hoxton, traditionally a working class part of London. Nowadays, like with all these, like a lot of former working class areas in major European cities, they're undergoing a lot of change a lot of what people call gentrification and Hoxton is not immune to that. It's also one thing. It's

Yifan 5:59

a pioneer of

Richard 6:01

Yeah, could even be considered a pioneer. Definitely. And yeah, probably in London, it would be a pioneer. Of course, in the 90s, late 90s, when Britpop was all the rage, the famous clip, the video clip of the Verves, unfinished sin, no, not unfinished with any, a bittersweet Symphony. Sorry, a bittersweet Symphony by the verb. Were you land that's a band, right? And this singer is walking down Hoxton Street, barging into people. But at least he's not making way for anybody else. He's just walking down in the straight line. Anyway, that's that's a link to that video, I'll post a link I definitely will post a link to the video. And that is Hoxton. And that street probably not changed that much. So just a few more hipster new places. hipster new I don't know. Yeah, they hit the places I don't know. Definitely weren't there when the video was shot. But otherwise, it probably retains a similar feel.

Yifan 7:09

There's a very famous British person laying rest nearby our bookshop. Our address is 99 East road about five minutes walk up, say 10 minutes walk at most. We have

Richard 7:23

we have the bunhill is it bunhill Cemetery. Yes. Or bunhill fields where William Blake is buried. And is that Daniel Defoe as well?

Yifan 7:38

of Treasure Island.

Richard 7:40

No he's of Robinson Robinson Crusoe. Yes. Different Island. Yeah. Yeah, and I feel like there's somebody else we're missing out. Anyway, Daniel Defoe, and obviously William Blake will do for for a bookshop.

Yifan 7:57

That's where we will be having our sandwiches during lunch

Richard 8:00

break. Exactly. That's where we'll be. lunch breaks. Look forward to look forward to at one point so at one point, we you thought of calling or referring to it as the podcast bookshop, can you elucidate

Yifan 8:20

it is the date that was my idea. And nobody understood the idea. It was a much misunderstood idea. I might still launch a campaign to to make it our tagline, the podcast bookshop,

Richard 8:35

Hoxton books, the podcast bookshop,

Yifan 8:37

okay, because I think there is a idea that people who love the internet and social media who stay on Weibo WeChat all the time they don't read books. And books is for bookish people who are you know, who have no internet had home here?

Richard 8:54

no internet, no to sceptical of everything that was invented after the book.

Yifan 8:59

Yeah. And that concept is very strange to me. Because I have in obviously been the next journalist or somewhat, probably still working in the field that's related to journalism. I love books and social media, because our job is essentially transferring knowledge from books to social media. And in in Chinese, we call this brick carrying, right so a lot of marketing people and journalists writers, their job is essentially book carry a brick carrying, carrying but either from the English speaking world to the Chinese world, or from the book to more popular fields. Yeah. And also, I think podcast is a medium where you really engage with the content like you do with a book. You spend hours on it.

Richard 9:53

That's it. It's sort of like an individual.

Yifan 9:55

Yes. Yeah. Very private.

Richard 9:58

Yeah, private thing. Exactly.

Yifan 10:00

And so I think they, they go together. And I take book recommendations from a lot of podcasters. So I thought, you know, why don't we use this as an angle for our book, bookshop? And because you need a unique selling point nowadays? Well, yeah.

Richard 10:18

What's the last book you? You read for, or at least the last book you opened that was recommended to you by, by podcast?

Yifan 10:28

Um, can I talk about the next one? So the next. The next one is, it's a very, it's a cookbook by Ottolenghi and his collaborator, one of his collaborators

Richard 10:40

here. Is is his husband, the Palestinian? Yeah. Was he called cesifo? Sami?

Yifan 10:47

No. So it's someone else. Maybe someone I need to meet me, but it's like it's it's about vegetarian cooking and vegetables. Okay. And I heard it on kcrw the goodfood. Bought it yesterday. And I thought, well, Okay, very good. That so that was the next one. previous one. The thing is, since I started the book club project for cultural potatoes, and my nonfiction project, unpack. I have no time to read other. I have no,

Richard 11:20

so a lot of projects you've got going on.

Yifan 11:23

No, it's just with this A New Hope it's just four because they are financing the bookshop? Yeah, so each each week I do a different thing. That is to say so my podcast listening has decreased the time I spent on podcast. Sure, we have opportunities to recommend other podcasts plenty. The next question I want to ask you is obviously you know, London's bookshops the best So looking at our competitors are not necessarily competitors. tell our listeners or three independent bookshops that you love.

Richard 12:03

Okay, so first of all, we're selling starting we'll start with Daunt's that's the most obvious one because they're almost like I mean, they are independent but they're like a mini chain as well because they got quite a few they were four or five bookshops in London, mostly in the West and the North. The the the flagship shop in Marylebone is essentially based on well essentially grew out of a travel bookshop and they still categorise their books by country

Yifan 12:38

like a Lonely Planet? travel books or travel literature.

Richard 12:42

Well travel literature, so they've Yeah, they do in the sense that under each country, you find guides, like you know, Lonely Planet, etc, you'll have books about the history of that place, and writers from there or when he's in translation, but the major writers from that place, so in a way you'd have History Fiction, and guidebooks or all mixed together by country, if that makes sense.

Yifan 13:18

I love Daunt's, but somehow they are the least, they are almost the opposite to the way I would imagine our shop. I don't know why.

Richard 13:28

Yes, we're definitely probably wouldn't be doing much by country. I don't know. Unless...,

Yifan 13:35

but also they have a very English cottage.

Richard 13:39

Yeah, there's something quite Yeah, there's something quite traditional or exactly quite cottagey very English. Maybe what we could say a bit. how likely are you?

Yifan 13:49

I like how you said your English your French accent surfaced. Richard is half French

Richard 14:01

I'm half French? But um yeah, it feels quite quite

Yifan 14:07

safe maybe twee is the

Richard 14:10

yeah tweet by twee at an effort Yeah, how how accurate what it's great though it's great if obviously like you know people who come from abroad love going then it's because it's it's very I don't know if pittoresque is the word but

probably have the most visible tote bag

Oh, yeah. They've got the they got the whole they got the pioneers they send throughout the world with their tote bags. Yeah. Referencing themselves. Yeah. They you know, people buy the travel books that they get the tote bag, they travel elsewhere. bag.

Yifan 14:50

So it's a long standing tradition.

Richard 14:53

Exactly. Yeah. Must be.

Yifan 14:57

Okay, number two, choice number two

Richard 14:59

Probably a bookshop that's not very far from where, from where Hoxton books is, and that's the Broadway bookshop on Broadway market. And that said, I mean, that's a, you know, relatively small shop. But with the space they have, they do very well with filling it with books, or at least books that I would love to read. And there's not much you know, when we talk about separating the wheat from the chaff. I'd say there's not, there isn't much chaff in that bookshop. Um,

Yifan 15:39

why is this so many agricultural metaphors in English and separating the sheep from The what?

Richard 15:49

The wheat from the chaff?

Yifan 15:50

Yeah, but also people say,

Richard 15:52

separating sheep and white sheep and black sheep.

Yifan 15:55

No man from the sheep. I don't know. Yes, yes.

Richard 15:59

Yes. Lamb dressed as mutton.

Yifan 16:02

Is that all yours? No, never mind Skinner. Forward, but I would recommend, you know, like, visitors to London to check out Broadway market. It's probably not in any guidebook. And yet, it's probably the most London in a way. I don't know, young London, hipster.

Richard 16:23

Young London is very young. Do you want to see

Yifan 16:26

how young people in London live

Richard 16:30

and get a Broadway market? In a idealised? Yeah.

Yifan 16:34

I mean, it's true. There's a lot of self love is definitely a lot of self love.

Richard 16:40

Yeah, there's Yeah, they Yeah. Yeah. They're very pleased with themselves. Yes. But definitely the bookshop is great. And the bookshop has been there a while. Yeah, I really don't have a bad word to say about them. Another bookshop I find interesting is in Chelsea, in West London, you know, very affluent area. And that's Sandoe's. Then, like, the ceilings are so low, there's maybe two floors. Yeah, there's two floors, low ceilings, books stacked everywhere. except they're all new books. So you could you know, you imagine that kind of bookshop, imagine selling secondhand books, where they've just have all these secondhand books, and I don't know where to put them. Here. It's all new books. They're all stacked everywhere. Lots of art books. You know, big, big expensive art books that people in Chelsea will buy coffee table books, coffee table books. Yeah, but not too not too frivolous coffee table books like serious coffee table books, okay. And and then they like to you they stack so on their tables, they like stacking books by author. So for instance, you might have like, you might have Philip Roth and all his books are on top of each other on a table. Okay. So different titles they mix them up. So you'd like you unwind the pie or to find the entire oevre the particular writer.

Yifan 18:14

So how is Broadway because you mentioned don'ts in their flagship travel shop. Things are organised by country right like the geography department. And then in in Sandoe's, Sanders is is called Sandel's or Sandoe's. Sandoe.

Richard 18:32

the with an apostrophe s at the end. Sandoe's?

Yifan 18:36

Yeah, they are organised by author.

Richard 18:40

Yes. And then but they have a more traditional way of running things by sort of, you know, fiction, and fiction A to Zed, but then when you look on the tables, they'll have like, it's a bit like I'm not saying it's messy. But they can also like, yeah, you might find fit on the shelf and Philip Roth, it might be one or two books, but then if you look on the table, there might be more there. So it's a bit random says maybe a bit random.

Yifan 19:07

Yeah, and what about in Broadway, but books,

Richard 19:10

Broadway bookshop is oh? Yeah, no, they also like the country thing, where if you look under France, you have find books about France, as well as books by French writers. Yeah, which is how it should have described don't earlier, and how are you going to organise boxing our bookshop?

So how we're going to organise them? Well, either by service, all sorts of I think there are sorts of all sorts of ways and they might intersect in different ways. So we might have a shelf with books recommended by certain people. Books might also figure in

so we're talking about Obama's reading list.

Yeah, so we could talk about Obama's reading list. But that Like, you know, there might be one or two things there that double up with, say, a shelf full of books by people who write for The New Yorker. Yeah. As well as maybe we'd have books on certain topics there might intersect with the book kinda know to do with to do with black lives matter for instance. Okay.

Yifan 20:20

No podcast. Sorry. No.

Richard 20:24

Yeah, of course. Yeah. podcast. podcasts are your thing the podcasts?

Yifan 20:29

Right, so

Richard 20:30

yeah, definitely like yeah, for instance. I mean, it start the week is the the obvious one when it comes to at least nonfiction books.

Yifan 20:38

Yeah, that's a popular UK BBC Radio Show. That's also a podcast. Yeah. Anyway, right. Okay.

Richard 20:47

You've stopped me there.

Yifan 20:48

But one night, we might talk about you know, this more in detail in in a future episodes. Yes, exactly. That's

Richard 20:55

Yeah, exactly. How are we going to how we're going to categorise and now we're going to shelve everything is by almost recommendations, different products from different places. Yeah, exactly. recommendations, but yeah, from different sources. See how that pans out? How see how how we manage that?

Yifan 21:17

Yeah. Okay, more More on that in a future episode. And also, I think our listeners, this is going to be a simple English slow English, a shorter programme that we're hoping to. So in future episodes of A New Hope. One week we might talk about our bookshelves and other week we might talk about our book lists, whatever you want to hear about our Hoxton books, bookshop, let us know and then we'll try to talk about it. And lastly, for today, can you that is Richard recommend a podcast and perhaps in English podcast you like?

Richard 22:01

Okay, so thinking about this I'm going to go for a podcast which is completely just different. In fact, maybe a lot of people who are into books or read books are not necessarily interested in, ie football so this is a podcast about English football where these various supporters mostly younger I mean, youngest guys you support different team gather around the television watching a premier league game, but they end up just talking about football so they don't they comment on the game a bit. So last Sunday, it was the North London Derby between Arsenal and Tottenham, but most of the time they're just Yeah, they're just talking to each other about various things going on in in with football, and it lasts for about three hours or something. You can think you can even catch him on Twitch live but then they also release a podcast

Yifan 23:07

that's a highly technical term coming from someone who is not very technical twitch

Richard 23:11

twitch yeah twitch I'm yeah, I'm with I'm with the twitch kids, except that to them. My understanding is twitches, just people playing video games. In this case, they're watching football, and they're just reacting to what's going on. Either during the match or, or more widely. And they're the fun bunch. They're their ragtag collection. So different supporters. So there's one guy you know, who support Liverpool and other guys supports Chelsea, then they have a guest on depending on the one of the teams that's playing. And yeah, they they joke around and, and they kind of like kind of people I don't hear about my life. I don't really know many people who support football, even though I live in England. So it's just it's just refreshing. Basically. Okay, so you're up to date with what's going on in world of football.

Yifan 24:07

Okay, and very Lastly, Richard before we say goodbye, this month. The new word A New Hope. Okay, this is our finishing segment. tell our listeners a fun English word that they may not know.

Richard 24:28

Okay, sure. So we have a word, which is probably the informal to mean food.

Yifan 24:35

Like,

do you want food?

Richard 24:37

Like I'm starving? Let's have some grub. grub grub said that spelled GRUB grub? Not sure what the origin is but definitely loads a lot at least London term understood by all have some grasp, but it's also at the If you combine it with the word street grub Street, the grub street refers to aspiring writers, poets trying to make a living in the 19th century. And grub Street was a street not very far from our bookshop, in fact, also close to where William Blake and Daniel differ we mentioned we're buried. So this street no longer exists, but it was around there. And it was just a sort of bohemian place where where writers poets, aspiring journalists

Yifan 25:44

lived or so some general term you can say grubstreet to refer to them collectively Yeah, like to

Richard 25:51

Yeah, that is a column I think in pro in the satirical magazine Private Eye This is a comment column about sort of the world of journalists and basic facts Yeah. And the the column is called grubstreet. That's too many words hacks.

Yifan 26:07

Okay. Let's Let's hit stop and have some takeaway grub, does it even work?

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你可能听说过加速主义，总加速师这些网络用语，但是究竟什么是加速主义？谁来加速？去哪里？为什么马克思主义者和白人至上主义者都在过去几年热衷于这个理论？这期节目我们 Unpack 加速主义。这里是这期节目的预览部分，完整节目一共30分钟，只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com，购买赞助人计划后，在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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这期我们和方曌、Gigi 一起讨论柏林剧团（Berliner Ensemble）演出的「高加索灰阑记」Der kaukasische Kreidekreis，这是一个我们第一次聊德国剧作家 Bertolt Brecht (贝托尔特·布莱希特) 的作品和他为戏剧舞台带来的疏离效果、史诗剧场等理论和风格。

节目中提到的作品信息：

话剧视频

高加索灰阑记，柏林剧团

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12f4y127d1

剧本

高加索灰阑记，上海译文版本

https://book.douban.com/subject/6784967/

剧本

The Caucasian Chalk Circle，James & Tania Stern with W. H. Auden

https://edisciplinas.usp.br/pluginfile.php/4627961/mod_resource/content/1/BRECHT%20COLLECTED%20PLAYS.pdf

元杂剧

包待制智勘灰阑记，李潜夫

https://www.douban.com/location/drama/11620570/

电影

Borat / 波拉特2，Sacha Baron Cohen

https://movie.douban.com/subject/4135439/

话剧

椅子，Eugène Ionesco

https://book.douban.com/subject/10598740/

话剧

犀牛，Eugène Ionesco

https://book.douban.com/subject/1372741/

话剧

等待戈多，贝克特

https://book.douban.com/subject/1051714/

目的地

布莱希特故居 Brecht-Weigel Museum，Chausseestrasse 125

https://www.museumsportal-berlin.de/en/museums/brecht-weigel-museum/

小说

布登勃洛克一家，托马斯·曼

https://book.douban.com/subject/21267640/

川剧

列宁在十月，双流县川剧团

https://youtu.be/SNbcezwLLUY

英剧

Belgravia 贝尔格维亚，Julian Fellowes

https://movie.douban.com/subject/26701184/

真人秀

Judge Judy，CBS

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3112224/

话剧

四川好人，布莱希特

https://book.douban.com/subject/6784956/

元杂剧

赵氏孤儿，纪君祥

https://book.douban.com/subject/2320760/

电影

刘三姐，乔羽

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1298755/

游戏

刺客信条：英灵殿，Ubisoft

https://www.douban.com/game/35051450/

话剧

高加索灰阑记，中澳合作版

http://dwz.date/dvWb

话剧

魔方，王晓鹰导演

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av50157566/

小说

巴士司机的蜜月，Dorothy L. Sayers

https://book.douban.com/subject/24721222/

话剧

三分钱歌剧，布莱希特

https://www.douban.com/location/drama/19956482/

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金阁寺是三岛由纪夫1956年根据金阁寺纵火事件主犯的生平虚构的一部小说，奠定了他成为当时全球最畅销日本作家的地位。今天这期误读会益康糯米和张宇凌还有高高一起讨论三岛由纪夫、金阁寺和很多生死、善恶、美丑的大问题。希望你会喜欢。

节目中提到的作品信息

小说

金阁寺，三岛由纪夫

https://book.douban.com/subject/3391248/

词条

Yukio Mishima，大英百科全书

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Yukio-Mishima

三岛由纪夫的其他主要小说作品有

假面的自白

https://book.douban.com/subject/3391245/

潮骚

https://book.douban.com/subject/3391246/

禁色

https://book.douban.com/subject/5366440/

丰饶之海

https://book.douban.com/subject/1091904/

宴后

https://book.douban.com/subject/5921800/

非虚构

叶隐入门

https://book.douban.com/subject/4903188/

传记片

Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters，Paul Shrader

https://book.douban.com/subject/4903188/

纪录片

The Strange Case of Yukio Mishima, BBC Arena

https://youtu.be/Ctufj50w9a0

论文

A Wildean Theory of Yukio Mishima, Andrew Rankin

https://www.jstor.org/stable/45270260

电影

闪灵， 斯坦利·库布里克

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292225/

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这期节目转载不久前益康糯米和张宇凌参加的一期「艺术有读」录制。因为我开头的口播，下面的时间戳都需要顺眼33秒。

主播

· Sammi：Tabula Rasa Gallery 画廊联合创始人，总监

嘉宾

· 张一帆：播客“文化土豆”主播

· 张宇凌：艺术史学家、作家

文字编辑

· Sammi、Sixing、Jingyi

剪辑

· Sixing

阿尔泰米西娅・简提列斯基 Artemisia Gentileschi

Artemisia Gentileschi 是十七世纪的意大利女画家。她的大型回顾展正在伦敦的国家美术馆展出，展览将展出到明年的1月24日。 这是一个万众瞩目的展览，从两年前宣布要做开始，就受到了很多关注， 最主要的一个原因也是因为伦敦国家美术馆196年历史上第一次给女艺术家做的大型展览。 

她1593年出生， 父亲Orazio Gentileschi 是一名画家，同时也是当时非常著名的画家卡拉瓦乔的好朋友。Artemisia 从小和他父亲学画， 她的绘画当然也深受卡拉瓦乔那种戏剧性和强明暗对比法的影响，她的一生经历传奇， 16岁的时候被父亲的朋友，也是一位画家 Tassi 强奸，Artemisia 的父亲将这位 Tassi 告上法庭，为了证明自己的清白， Artmesia 在法庭上遭受酷刑，同时强调“这都是真的，这都是真的。”最终这位强奸犯被判有罪，被逐放出罗马（但事实是判刑并没有被执行）。Artemsia 之后结婚并搬家到了佛罗伦萨，生育了五个孩子，但只有一个女儿最终成人，和丈夫关系一直不好，并且后半生都和丈夫分开，自己一个人带女儿生活，并曾多年拥有一位情人。

Artemisia 现在最被大众熟知的作品几乎都和她前半生的经历有很大关系，比如宗教主题中的一些和女性遭遇相关的《朱迪思割下荷罗孚尼的头颅》、《苏珊娜和老人》、《卢克丽霞》等。1616年， 她在佛罗伦萨成名， 受雇于美第奇家族，支持家中生计。同时，她也是佛罗伦萨美术学院接收的第一位女成员。她之后也曾返回到罗马生活，也曾在威尼斯居住过三年，最后在那不勒斯定居至去世。在她四十多岁的时候，也被当时英国皇室的查尔斯一世雇佣到伦敦绘画了一两年的时间，所以和伦敦也有很深的渊源。 

伦敦国家美术馆为本次展览出版了图录，其中包含了多篇文章，从画家个人经历、绘画技法、私人信件以及女权主义批判等多个角度深入了 Artemisia 的人生与创作。

🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_Gentileschi

🔗 https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/artemisia

收听导航丨Index

Ξ 00:55 Artemisia 生平简介

Ξ 04:01 艺术史中对 Artemisia 的书写

Ξ 07:28 审判与酷刑

Ξ 13:28 Artemisia 的创作题材

Ξ 20:39 朱迪思割下荷罗孚尼的头颅

Ξ 27:55 “这是真的”：Artemisia 创作中的真实性

Ξ 30:30 自画像与画家的“商业”推广

Ξ 42:56 Artemisia 创作年代的社会变革

06:21

《作为绘画寓言的自画像》 

Self-Portrait as the Allegory of Painting 

约1638-1639

12:04

反宗教改革（Counter Reformation）

反宗教改革是在1545至1648年间天主教会面对宗教改革的冲击，巩固罗马教会在欧洲的地位而实行的革新运动，也被成为天主教改革。

🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Reformation

13:48

历史绘画（History Painting）

历史绘画是源自文艺复兴时期的流派，描绘的主题包括历史、宗教、神话、传说等等。它们通常是由统治者委托创作的，多为尺幅宏大的油画或壁画。在19世纪学院艺术的统治地位遭到动摇前，历史绘画被认为是等级最高的艺术形式。

🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_painting

14:23

Hilary Mantel《狼厅》（Wolf Hall）

《狼厅》是英国小说家 Hilary Mentel的一部历史小说，获2009年布克奖，描述了英国都铎王朝期间，国王亨利八世与其宠臣托马斯·克伦威尔、安·博林之间的恩怨情仇。本书及其续作《提堂》（Bring Up the Bodies）于2015年改编为电视剧。

🔗 https://book.douban.com/subject/5260193/

20:39

《朱迪思割下荷罗孚尼的头颅》

Judith Beheading Holofernes

约1612-1613；约1620-1621

24:21

《朱迪思割下荷罗孚尼的头颅》，约1598–1599或1602

《手提歌利亚头的大卫》，约1610

卡拉瓦乔（Caravaggio）

意大利画家，1593年到1610年间活跃于罗马、那不勒斯、马耳他和西西里。他通常被认为属于巴洛克画派，对巴洛克画派的形成有重要影响。他的油画作品光影对照强烈，具有浓烈的戏剧色彩。

🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravaggio

26:30

美第奇家族（Medici）

美第奇家族是佛罗伦萨15世纪至18世纪中期在欧洲拥有强大势力的名门望族，在文艺复兴时期对艺术极力赞助，创建美术学院与美术馆，并委托制作大量艺术品，其中包括多件米开朗基罗的雕塑。

🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Medici

28:43

《陶醉的抹大拉的马利亚》

Mary Magdalene in Ecastasy

1623

30:13

佛罗伦萨美术学院（Accademia delle Belle Arti di Firenze）

1561年，佛罗伦萨美术学院在美第奇家族克西莫一世的资助下创建，由乔尔乔·瓦萨里出任第一任校长。达芬奇、米开朗基罗等人均在这里就读，后者知名的大卫像也收藏于此。

🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accademia_di_Belle_Arti_di_Firenze

31:21

伦勃朗（Rembrandt）

荷兰画家，巴洛克画派代表人物，一生间留下了大量自画像作品，包括素描、速写、版画和油画，反映出了艺术家不同时期的创作特色。

🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rembrandt

32:20

《作为亚历山大圣加大肋纳的自画像》

Self-Portrait as Saint Catherine of Alexandria 

约1615-1617 

《作为琵琶演奏者的自画像》

Self-Portrait as a Lute Player

约1615-1618 

39:26

查尔斯一世（Charles I）

查尔斯一世是英国斯图亚特王朝的国王，于1625-1649年间在位，此间宗教冲突不断。他在世的最后几年两度与国会爆发英国内战，最终被判叛国罪处死。他曾委任 Artemisia 与其父亲绘制格林威治皇后宫的天顶。

🔗 https://www.rct.uk/collection/408464/an-allegory-of-peace-and-the-arts

43:30

《1698年权利法案》（Bill of Rights）

英国光荣革命后，威廉三世成为国王，于1698年签署了这部权利法案。法案中限制王权，加强了对国民权利的保障，是英国宪法重要的组成部分，也成为了美国宪法的前身。

🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689

48:42

《苏珊娜和老人》

Susannah and the Elders 

约1610；约1649

53:42

乌菲齐美术馆（Galleria degli Uffizi）

又译乌菲兹美术馆，位于佛罗伦萨乌菲齐宫内。这里本是美第奇家族的办公厅，几百年间家族成员将收藏的艺术品存放于此，后改建为对公众开放的美术馆。

🔗 https://www.virtualuffizi.com/

延伸阅读

Jonathan Jones 《Artemisia Gentileschi》

🔗 https://www.amazon.com/Artemisia-Gentileschi-Lives-Artists-Jonathan/dp/1786276097

Mary Garrard 《Artemisia Gentileschi and Feminism in Early Modern Europe》

🔗 https://www.amazon.com/Artemisia-Gentileschi-Feminism-Modern-Renaissance/dp/1789142024

《詹森艺术史》（Janson's History of Art）

🔗 https://book.douban.com/subject/21363162/

《加德纳艺术通史》 （Gardner's Art Through the Ages）

🔗 https://book.douban.com/subject/21363162/

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这期 Unpack 节目不是一本非虚构的讨论，而是配合美国大选结果揭晓前夕，我们邀请到传媒研究者方可成和经济分析师庄波一起讨论过去四年川普给美国和国际政治带来的颠覆性变化，以及他给美国留下了怎样的政治遗产。这里是这期节目的预览部分，完整节目一共36分钟，只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com，购买赞助人计划后，在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

完整节目讨论问题的时间标签：

1:36 嘉宾的立场

11:10 2016 年川普的胜出是否是一个历史巧合？

23:00 我们是否进入了一个全球性的后-GDP时代？

30:12 如何看待 #FakeNews、假新闻、Disinformation 和美国主流新闻的偏激？

37:20′ 川习是最好的伙伴，还是最大的敌人？

44:42 为什么有那么多华人川粉？

54:58 在外交领域，Trump Doctrine/川普主义是有道理的吗？

1:03:46 川普主义的内核是什么？它会卷土重来吗？

1:10:03 如果你是川普，会如何面对退休生活？（轻松搞笑环节）

1:14:59 编辑推荐

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本期节目我们聊美国剧作家 Tony Kushner 的代表作 Angels in America: A Gay Fantasia on National Themes。嘉宾是 Gigi 和 方曌。

以下是 NTLive 版本的官方介绍：

上世纪八十年代中，美国处于列根的保守政权之下，正经历爱滋病危机。 《天使在美国》正讲述在这种社会背景下，一群纽约客徘徊生与死、爱与性、天堂与地狱之间，挣扎求存、奋斗的故事。

东尼．库什纳 (Tony Kushner) 的《天使在美国》可谓近几十年来最重要的戏剧之一。此剧共分两部分，总长逾七小时，于1992年至1993年间在伦敦英国国家剧院首演，并赢得普立兹戏剧奖等多项大奖。该剧有趣又感人，尖锐又富有深刻洞见，以充满想象力的方法，探讨爱、痛苦、疾病、死亡、信仰、政治等主题，即使在25年后的今天，仍然发人深省。

本次复排版的演员阵容鼎盛，荷里活及英国剧界的一线演员纷纷登场。饰演主角普莱尔的安德鲁加菲(Andrew Garfield)曾获奥斯卡最佳演员提名，代表作包括电影《蜘蛛侠：惊世现新》(The Amazing Spider-Man)及《钢锯岭》(Hacksaw Ridge) 。其他主要演员包括主演BBC剧集《宝拉》(Paula)的丹妮斯高弗(Denise Gough)，曾演出《星球大战：原力觉醒》(Star Wars: The Force Awakens) 的占士麦卡德(James McArdle)，曾演出英国国家剧院《高校男生》(The History Boys)的罗素托维（Russell Tovey），以及演出音乐剧《金牌监制》(The Producers) 和电影《假凤虚凰》(The Birdcage) 的尼芬连恩（Nathan Lane）。

本剧导演玛丽安．艾略特 (Marianne Elliott) 是奥利花奖及东尼奖双料得主。她为英国国家剧院导演的《深夜小狗神秘习题》(The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time) 及《雷霆战驹》(War Horse) 都大获成功。这次，她为我们谱写了一曲感人至深的人性赞歌。

节目中提到的作品信息：

话剧

天使在美国，NTLive

https://movie.douban.com/subject/27021257/

https://movie.douban.com/subject/27045950/

美剧

天使在美国，HBO

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1417082/

电影

慕尼黑 Munich，史蒂文·斯皮尔伯格

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1438338/

电影

林肯 Lincoln，史蒂文·斯皮尔伯格

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1889242/

话剧

大亨游戏 Glengarry Glen Ross，David Mamet

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1303278/

话剧

奥利安娜 Oleanna，David Mamet

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1459224/

美剧

科莱特 Colette

https://movie.douban.com/subject/26721646/

话剧

历史系男生 History Boys，阿兰·本奈特

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1871817/

播客

talkArt，Rossell Tovey & Robert Diament

https://play.acast.com/s/talkart

非虚构

Complications，Atul Gawande

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0312421702/

非虚构

And the band played on, Randy Shilts

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0312374631

电影

费城故事， 乔纳森·戴米

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293145/

演唱会

We Are the World，迈克尔杰克逊

https://movie.douban.com/subject/3921776/

电影

断背山，李安

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1418834/

电影

请以你的名字呼唤我，卢卡·瓜达尼诺

https://movie.douban.com/subject/26799731/

电影

Love, Simon，格里格·伯兰蒂

https://movie.douban.com/subject/26654498/

播客

调戏罗尔卡的「耶尔马」，文化土豆

http://dwz.date/danT

播客

调戏田纳西·威廉斯的「欲望号街车」，文化土豆

http://dwz.date/danU

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这里是这期节目的预览部分，完整节目一共36分钟，只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com，购买赞助人计划后，在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。Unpack 栏目是每月一次的非虚构书籍分享栏目，由主播益康糯米单口播出。赞助人计划分为6个月和1年两个有效期，收取的费用会用来支持文化土豆所有节目对制作，包括每月一次的小说节目「误读会」、戏剧节目「调戏」和其他影视作品的观后讨论。这些节目都会坚持为所有听众免费提供。

相关信息链接

非虚构

Maoism: A Global History, Julia Lovell 蓝诗玲

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/109/1094511/maoism/9780099581857.html

作者主页

http://www.bbk.ac.uk/history/our-staff/academic-staff/professor-julia-lovell

非虚构

鸦片战争，蓝诗玲

https://book.douban.com/subject/26430798/

论文

人民战争胜利万岁，林彪

https://www.marxists.org/chinese/linbiao/marxist.org-chinese-linbiao-196508.htm

非虚构

红星照耀中国，斯诺

https://book.douban.com/subject/26820347/

还有一些延伸观看的影视作品

电影

巴德尔和迈因霍夫集团 Der Baader Meinhof Komplex

https://movie.douban.com/subject/2298609/

电影

一切安好，戈达尔

https://movie.douban.com/subject/1401582/

电视剧

Citizen Smith，BBC

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7m1nwv

纪录片

The Act of Killing, Joshua Oppenheimer

https://movie.douban.com/subject/11538029/

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这期节目我们聊日本作家太宰治的「人间失格」，这本写于1948年的小说长期位居日本畅销榜的前十，作者在这篇由三本札记组成的中篇小说叙述了一个自认为是废人的主人公的童年、少年和成年的一些生活片段，和他无法理解他人的苦恼。

作者介绍

太宰治（生于1909年6月19日，日本青森县卡纳吉市-1948年6月13日去世，死于东京），小说家，在二战结束时作为当时的文学声音出现。 当传统价值观被抹黑，而年轻一代却空无一物地拒绝了过去的一切时，他那黑暗而苦涩的语调完美地捕捉了战后日本的困惑。

更多：https://www.britannica.com/biography/Dazai-Osamu

节目中提到的作品信息：

播客

初次日本请多关照，文化土豆

https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/play-episode/id1243945491?i=1000418860331

小说

人间失格，太宰治

https://book.douban.com/subject/26647769/

动画

人间失格，MADHOUSE

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1PW41157xs/

小说

厨房，吉本芭娜娜

https://book.douban.com/subject/4127527/

小说

源氏物语，紫式部

https://book.douban.com/subject/1006113/

电影

小丑，华金·菲尼克斯

https://movie.douban.com/subject/27119724/

小说

罪与罚，陀思妥耶夫斯基

https://book.douban.com/subject/1858568/

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这周益康糯米和高高一起分享 Ridley Scott 监制的美剧 Raised By Wolves「异星灾变」 的观后感。

节目中提到的作品：

美剧

异星灾变，HBO Max

https://movie.douban.com/subject/30345691/

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这期节目我和方曌、Gigi一起分享法国最伟大的喜剧作家莫里哀 Moliere（1622-1673）的代表作，也是最具争议性的作品 Tartuffe「伪君子」。

节目中提到的作品信息：

话剧

伪君子，莫里哀

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1eC4y1H7Ao

视频

法国新古典主义，Crash Course Theatre

https://youtu.be/fXRpTLvPdT0

图书

世界五千年，少年儿童出版社

https://book.douban.com/subject/1041568/

电影

夺冠，陈可辛

https://movie.douban.com/subject/30128916/

小说

三个火枪手，大仲马

https://book.douban.com/subject/5388095/

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节目中提到的作品信息

非虚构

Capital and Ideology, Thomas Picketty

https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674980822

非虚构

21世纪资本论，托马斯·皮凯蒂

https://book.douban.com/subject/25947310//

纪录片

Capital，Netflix

https://www.netflix.com/title/81239470

小说

兄弟，余华

https://book.douban.com/subject/4882133//

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