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Adrian and Leon share an album with each other. Adrian loves the album he shared with Leon and the same goes for the album Leon shared with Adrian.

However, the person sharing the album has carefully chosen an album that the other will hate. The exercise is to choose an album that will cause extreme irritation and displeasure by listening to it.

The joy of this chat is hearing the different ways that each person hears the same album.

Adrian has recommended Aja by Steely Dan and Leon recommended Chance Meeting on a Dissecting Table of a Sewing Machine and an Umbrella by Nurse with Wound.

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In 1977 NASA launched two Voyager spacecraft.

Each craft contained a special Golden Record.

Each record was a time capsule, containing sounds and images selected to portray the diversity of life and culture on Earth, and were intended for any intelligent extraterrestrial life form who may find them.

They also include 90 minutes of music.

Our challenge in this episode?

Imagine being tasked with selecting 10 tracks to include on the next NASA space probe. Specifically, rock music. What tracks would you choose?

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There is a great joy in sharing a band or artist with a good friend. Particularly when that friend is new to the sounds on offer.

Adrian shares Parliament's funkadelic masterpiece, Mothership Connection and Leon shares the dirty, experimental Independent Worm Saloon by Butthole Surfers.

The chat combines years of listening with fresh ears and the results are excellent.

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Welcome to Season 5 of Super Sonic Chat!

We're back for more musings and meanderings across music fandom.

We kick off with an episode about the art of the parody song.

As kids we loved parody songs.

As teenagers we loved parody songs.

As middle aged men we still love parody songs!

I think we all know who the King of parody songs is right? So let's chat about him! The one and only Weird Al Yankovic.

What makes a great parody song?

Who are the contenders for Weird Al's title?

Leon shares the genesis of his, and probably many peoples, first love for the parody song.

Ade thinks he's found the next wave of parody artists and the challenge is to work out if they themselves know?!

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One of the things that started this whole podcast is the sheer joy of sharing musical discoveries.

Adrian and Leon share 10 songs each that they have discovered over the last 6 months.

That's 20 songs (and some cheeky honourable mentions) that have brought joy to the ears and may bring you joy too.

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Leon and Adrian love Australian music.

However, Australian Music has a big problem.

You may not be aware of it but it will shock you!

The boys call out the issue and set about identifying the root causes and offering up some solutions.

Of course November is AusMusic Month. At th heart of this episode is a love for Australian Music and the desire to see the next wave of great Australian bands rise up and dominate the globe.

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Leon and Adrian love Australian music.

Australia loves Australian music. So much so that November is AusMusic Month. This is not something made up for Super Sonic Chat, it's an actual thing.

This episode celebrates all things Australian Music.

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Think of those places you visit that are cool.

Do you remember what music they were playing last time you were there?

We take on a physical challenge to see what the music gods will serve up to us.

The challenge: contact 5 cool places and find out what music they are playing at that moment.

The results were surprising, refreshing and a whole bunch of fun.

Listen to find out what new favourites we discovered and to see which places get to choose their own music and which ones are subjected to management's choice.

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Today Adrian and Leon pay penance.

They admit that they have never listened to the albums, Last Splash by The Breeders and Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen in their entirety. Have they listened to songs from those albums? Of course, but to know an artist, you have to hear an album from start to finish.

What did they think? What was the verdict of these universally acclaimed albums? Listen to find out.

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"Dear Adrian and Leon,

Help me.

My Father-in-law is a jazz nut.

I don't hate jazz but would describe myself as jazz ignorant.

I need some helpful insights and interesting talking points about jazz so I can relate to my father-in-law and not look like an ignorant jazz hater.

What have you got for me?"

Dear listener,

Don't worry, we've got you covered.

In this episode we've provided you with 10 interesting jazz talking points, all illustrated with key jazz songs and highlighting key jazz legends.

You've got this!

Good luck.

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Do you ever look at someone and just know they are a fan of a certain band?

Have you ever met someone and just know they'd be into a certain artist?

This chat is about the weight of expectation.

Adrian kept having a certain band recommended to him by many people, including Leon.

'Oh you'd love them!' many people would say. 'I can't believe you've never listened to them before!'

Is Adrian the kind of person that looks like he'd love The National?

Is Leon the kind of person that looks like he'd love Yeah Yeah Yeahs?

The weight of expectation can change the way we experience music and this episode is a perfect example.

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One of life's greatest pleasures is discussing music with a mate and that is what we do here on this show.

And whether we are recording or not, we ask each other, "What have you been listening to lately?"

We sum up the last 6 month's new discoveries; whether they are new to the world, or just new to us, we offer each other a 5 course meal on what we have been digesting, musically so far this year.

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Royel Otis, Kool Aid, 2023

Department of Eagles, No One Does It Like You, 2008

Department of Eagles, Classical Records, 2008

Bad Dreems, Jack, 2023

Bad Dreems, See You Tomorrow, 2023

Black Pus, CGI Swamp Beast, 2020

Black Pus, Heebee Geebees, 2012

Plack Pus, Nuronic Knife, 2012

Budjerah, Therapy, 2023

Budjerah, Ready for the Sky, 2022

Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum, The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion, 2004

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Where do you start with that classic or cult band that you seem to have avoided over the years?

It's a big ask to dive in to a full album or a lengthy playlist.

It's dangerous to ask a superfan to give you a simple overview.

In this episode we do the heavy lifting for you on an introduction to perhaps the most influential alternative rock band of the 90s: Faith No More.

Listen in real time as we curate the perfect 5 song set to whet your Faith No More whistle.

These are not our favourite Faith No More songs.  

These are not be the best Faith No More songs.

These are the five songs that best represent all that Faith No More encompass to a new listener.

If we've done our job correctly, you'll have a Faith No More experience and be left with a curiosity to hear more. 

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How does a musician take unrestrained, red hot rage and contain it within a carefully composed set of sounds?

Adrian and Leon explore a range of musical styles and approaches that capture this feeling through a range of lyrical and sonic tactics.

Language warning: Lyrics of rage often contain expletives of a very colourful nature.

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Featured Songs:

Take the Power Back, Rage Against the Machine, 1991

Sleep Now in the Fire, Rage Against the Machine, 1999

Fuck tha Police, NWA, 1988

Kiss Off, Violent Femmes, 1983

Power and the Passion, Midnight Oil, 1982

All Hail the New Flesh, Strapping Young Lad, 1997

You Oughta Know, Alanis Morissette, 1995

Rudy x 3, The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza, 2012

Gacked on Anger, Amyl and the Sniffers, 2019

The Collapse, Frontierer, 2015

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There’s a story about Ernsest Hemmingway, famous author, taking a bet that he couldnt write a story in 6 words.

Needless to say, when he read out six simple words, everyone paid up.

It got us thinking about the simple songs.

Not the songs loaded with lyrics.

Not those dense and lengthy songs.

But those songs that manage to say so much with so little.

If you will, what are some great ‘6 word’ type songs?

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When two good mates see different bands in different cities on the same night, then a sharing of experiences becomes inevitable.

This is a simultaneous event, but which is separated by 900 kilometres. The bands are different, but within a congruous genre. This is the concert experience of Leon watching Black Midi in Brisbane while at the same time, Adrian watches King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard in Sydney.

*Please note some sound samples were taken from the actual concerts discussed, whereas some sound samples were taken from recordings of similar live shows to get a truer representation of the experience.

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Sometimes you need to talk about the things you can't see or touch.

For millenia the role of the artist has been, in part, to touch the sublime, to transcend the every day, to access something bigger than themselves and invite us to be a part of that.

In this chat we tackle this uplifting role that music plays in our lives whilst visiting the cathedrals of the everyman: the pub and the sporting arena.

We hear about the Romanticists and sci-fi author and philosopher Aldous Huxley.

We chat about Pub Choir, singing when your team is winning, the magic of anthemic choruses as well as music for psychedelic therapy and much more.

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Here's the challenge:  how do you distill an artist down to 5 songs for a first time listener?

When introducing someone to an artist or band they've never heard, it can be tricky to pick a playlist.

Too many songs can overwhelm the listener - so Adrian and Leon have developed the technique of choosing five for the unfamiliar. Five songs that impart a sense of what the artist is about. Not your five favourite songs. Not the five best songs. Five songs that hint at the flavour of the artist without delivering the full course. If done correctly it should be enough to leave them wanting more if they like what they're presented with.

This is the experiment: to pick only five songs of an artist you love that are tailored to hook the uninitiated.

In this episode, your hosts put this into practice for each other.

Adrian recommends the cool, catchy compositions of Bahamas.

Leon recommends the esoteric, sonorous sounds of Beirut.

Both artists filed under the letter 'B'.

Both artists with monikers you'll find on the world map.

Featured Songs:

Bahamas

No Expectations from Earthtones, 2018

Caught Me Thinking from Barchords, 2012

Lost in the Light from Barchords, 2012

Never Again from Barchords, 2012

All the Time from Bahamas is Afie, 2014

Beirut

Nantes from The Flying Club Cup, 2007

Postcards From Italy from Gulag Orkestar, 2006

Scenic World from Lon Gisland, 2006

Gibraltar from No No No, 2015

Two Blue Eyes from Berlin- Albuquerque Sessions, 2022

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There are many well regarded, classic albums that neither of us have listened to.

Our Confession Booth series is designed to get us out of our musical lanes and dive into these albums for the first time.

Will we love it?

Will we hate it?

Either way, we now have an informed opinion and a new listening experience.

In this episode we listen to:

The Cult 'Love' (1985)

Tracy Chapman 'Tracy Chapman' (1988)

Spoiler alert:  we clash wildly on our opinions of one of these albums!

We also incidentally mention some artists along the way such as:

Peter Gabriel Public Enemy U2 Echo and the Bunnymen Motorhead ACDC Guns n Roses Soundgarden Alice In Chains

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What makes a great love song? 

By chatting about our favourites maybe we can find the common elements. 

We were inspired by recording our 69th episode in the middle of February which felt like the right convergence of events to talk about songs that express a sentiment of love.  

Not lust. Not fleeting moments of teenage attraction. Not a rendezvous at the local discotheque.  Long lasting, true, heartfelt, dedicated love. But also the pang of love lost - or true love yet to come to fruition.  

Featured songs: 

Pagan Poetry by Bjork, from Vespertine, 2001
To Make You Feel My Love by Adele, from 19, 2008
To Make You Feel My Love Trisha Yearwood, from Hope Floats soundtrack, 1998
A Chicken with its Head Cut Off and I Don't Want to get Over You by The Magnetic Fields, from 69 Love Songs, 1999
Everlong by Foo Fighters, from The Colour and the Shape, 1997
Ore D'Amore by Mike Patton, from Mondo Cane, 2010
Gold to Me by Ben Harper, from Fight for Your Mind, 1995
Soldier by Richard Dawson, from Peasant, 2017
Fix You by Cold Play, from X&Y, 2005
Good Woman by Cat Power, from You Are Free, 2003
All I Need by Radiohead, from In Rainbows, 2007
La La Love You by The Pixies, Doolittle, 1989
Is This Love by Bob Marley, from Kaya, 1978
Lover, You Should Have Come Over by Jeff Buckley, from Grace, 1994
I Can't Help Falling in Love and I Need Loveby Luka Bloom, from Acoustic Motorbike, 1992 

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Artificial Intelligence has arrived en force.

'Chat GPT' has set the world abuzz with the potential of Artificial Intelligence in our lives.
What does this mean for the music industry?  What about for consumers and producers?

Leon and Adrian ask the tough questions about the current impact and future potential of AI in music and art. 

The discerning listener will pick out key clues throughout the episode for a big reveal towards the end.  

It's fair to say this episode is unlike any previous from Super Sonic Chat.

AI Song Samples Included:

Daddy's Car: Sony CSL Research Lab - Flow Machines, 2016

Sunspring Soundtrack, 2016

Z Machines Performance, 2013

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Experience a radical paradigm shift that changes the way you think and feel about art and music.

We chat about context and use a little experiential storytelling to make a point about how context creates a paradigm shift that can unlock art and music in new ways.

Have you looked at modern art and thought 'a six year old could've done that!'?

We chat about that scenario, about artists intent and about context that changes everything.

Have you ever heard a story about an album or received new information about a record that changed the way you thought and felt about that piece of music?

We also chat about that scenario.

Context is king in unlocking art and music.  It's endlessly fascinating! 

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Nostalgia.  The sentimental longing or the wistful affection for a period in the past. 

When everything old is new again.

Have you noticed cassette tapes are back?

Have you noticed bands are touring album anniversaries?

Have you watched any of the myriad documentaries spruiking the glory days of yore?

Nostalgia is powerful and wonderful and alluring, something marketers are fully aware of.

In this chat we debate the pros and cons of the recent wave of nostalgia, we cover off a recent jaunt to an incredible anniversary album show and we dive into what makes us nostalgic.

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In this, our final episode of 2022, we ask each other 'What have you been listening to this year?''

Trusted friends are the greatest source of new music.  

So in this episode we dive right in:

11 albums new to Adrian in 2022.

11 albums new to Leon in 2022.

Some honourable mentions too.  

We'd love to hear from you:

what were your favourite albums from the year? what was your favourite episodes of the podcast?

Hit us up!

And as always, we are super grateful for everyone that tuned in this year, or left us a message, a voicemail, an email or a review.

We'll be back for more chat, debate and thought experiments about all things music and art in 2022.

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Have you noticed there's a terrifying abundance of music out there?

A. Terrifying. Abundance.

How do you find new music? 

How does new music find you?

The choice can be both overwhelming and paralysing.

Join in on this week's challenge.  It's a simple one: go out and find new music that you love.

We gave ourselves a week to do this.  The only rule was we could not ask each other!  We dived in and fully experienced the process of searching for something new and interesting to listen to. 

Our chat revolves around the obstacles and observations involved in navigating this challenge.  

We definitely discuss curation in both art and music and how critical curation is now more than ever.

Where do you find new music?  Who or what are the trusted sources?  Can Artificial Intelligence play a role? Is the algorithm a trusted source?

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In the life of a music obsessive there are unwritten responsibilities.

There are albums that at some point in your life you must listen to.

In particular, when you are faced with a wrong, you must take all necessary steps to right it.

In this semi-regular series we call Confession Booth, we publicly confess our wrongs and take corrective action.  We present this subsequent recorded chat as our penance.

Let it be known that Adrian, and his comrade Leon, had previously never listened to either:

the 1985 album by Kate Bush called ‘Hounds of Love’

OR

the 1960 album by Miles Davis called ‘Sketches of Spain’.

In this chat we record our initial reactions and discuss our thoughts and feelings on these two universally acclaimed albums.

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This is part two of Adrian's therapy program where we go from saxophone aversion to saxophone acceptance to possibly saxophone love. 

We've called in a bona fide sax expert Kirk Hamilton for a second opinion.  Kirk is an expert on not only the sax but contemporary music as a whole, and is the host of the great music podcast Strong Songs. 

We were extremely excited to be chatting with the host of Strong Songs, a podcast that is not only incredibly and impeccably made, but also has the capacity to not only introduce the listener to previously overlooked music, but also to open up facets of music that you have listened to for an incredibly long time. 

Dive deep into the wonderful world of the saxophone as Kirk breaks it wide open for us, playing live examples of incredible sax as well as beautiful, wonderful tangents that will hold you captivated. 

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Have you ever invented a game? 

We chat with the very creative, super innovative and absolutely fascinating Eran Thomson, creator of Song Saga: the #1 music and memory game that rocks! In a moment of inspiration, Eran created the game, developed it and took it to market. He walks us through the process from idea to product and fronting up to game fairs to pitch Song Saga to distributors. He chats about early market tests on unsuspecting friends and beautiful ‘aha’ moments when the game takes off. 

And then the best bit..... we play the game! Play is simple: Pull cards. Choose songs. Share memories. Best song + story wins. No singing required, just a music app. Get ready to break into the memory bank, learn new things about your friends, and reconnect with the music you love. 

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Why is Adrian so averted to the sound of the saxophone? Not the sound of sax in jazz or an orchestra, but when he hears sax as part of a rock band, Adrian cringes.

As a former saxophonist, Leon takes on the role of sax therapist and attempts to help Adrian overcome these feelings of disgust.

Will they make a breakthrough?  Will they be able to reclaim the saxophone's place in modern music?

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In another of our semi-regular Confession Booth series, Adrian and Leon have something to get off their chests: never in their lives have they ever heard the following albums in their entirety - The Clash by The Clash and Dusty In Memphis by Dusty Springfield. 

It is a blight on their listening record which has thankfully now been rectified with repeated, deep listening.
Hear what they have to say on two very different records from two very different, but equally important, artists.

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What can taint a true fans love for a band?

Is there anything?

Can an experience ruin a record forever? Or does true fandom triumph?

Adrian and Leon chat about how a band's music can be stained, bent, wrecked or ruined by a range of factors. 

Some are hilarious. Some are shocking. 

What has ruined a band, album or song for you? 

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There is no other stimulus on earth that simultaneously engages all areas of our brains as widely as music does.

We chat with Steven Hunt, Chief Operating Officer and co-founder of Music Health, a fast-growing Australian tech start up.

Music Health builds the tools to empower anyone to manage their mental wellbeing through personalised music intervention.

Their first product, Vera, is an easy to use app that uses AI technology to play personally significant music for a person living with dementia.

Studies have shown that the right music at the right time can modify our mood and behaviour in a positive way and increase brain stimulation.

In our wide ranging chat Steve outlines the science behind the significant role music can play in improving the quality of life for those living with dementia and their carers.  He also touches on the process taking an idea from inception and creating a business around it.

It's compelling stuff!

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This episode is a celebration of the EP. The 'Extended Play'.  

That concise collection of songs that often arrives early in an aritst's career, that delivers more than a single but never overstays its welcome.  The best EP leaves you wanting more, a tasting plate that mostly sits outside the cannon of a band's work.

This week’s episode explores what makes a great EP, why a band might choose to record one and of course we chat about our favourite and most loved examples.   

In a time when the album's relevance is being questioned, we think the EP is still worth celebrating.

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I wonder:  do you listen to mostly music by male artists or by female artists?

We were inspired by the great Australian band Spiderbait and their recent compilation 'Sounds in the Key Of J' that celebrates all the best songs sung by their female vocalist Janet as opposed to the songs sung by their male vocalist Kram.

In a band that has two lead singers, Kram, male, drums and singer AND Janet, female, bass player and singer, you get an incredible balance of both sounds.

This compilation was conceived as a celebration and was driven by Kram who says:

“Janet's talent is so undeniable, it's easy to forget that she was a bit of a trailblazer in the blokey 90s scene.

"In the '90s, women songwriters were few and far between, and thankfully it’s not that way anymore."

Which brings us to this chat about female artists.

We wanted to tackle the topic head on, chat about our favourite female artists, about some inconsistencies in the music industry, the imbalance toward male skewed artists, some startling statistics and our thoughts about unconscious bias and what we can do to address the situation.

Of course we took on a challenge to share a favourite female artist album and get each others opinions upon our first listen.

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Recently, we fell down a rabbit hole when discovering the music of Traun.
Traun is the artist the algorithm recommends to you after you listen to Mr Bungle, Secret Chiefs 3, Fantomas and Estradasphere.   

Traun captured our imagination and demanded our attention with its wonderfully dense, multi-genre, and eclectic approach.  We were totally absorbed by both the sounds and the world birthed by the project that includes a science fiction narrative complete with a short animation. 

The music utilises string ensembles, electronic elements, heavy metal, experimental jazz, and more - often within the same song.

Interested? 
So were your hosts! 
So they reached out to Dave Murray, the composer and producer of this ambitious project and he agreed to have a chat. 

The chat is about: artistic process,  how to go from inspiration to execution,  collaboration,  obsessive focus  what it takes to see a creation through to completion. 

Dave Murray was also a member of Estradasphere and chats a little about his time spent playing and touring with them.  
He also has an exciting current project called High Castle Teleorkestra. 

Find the links to those bands and more below.

Find more about our guest here:
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Traun:
Apple: https://music.apple.com/au/artist/traun/1269336617
Spotify:  https://spoti.fi/3zw3XoF

Estradasphere:
Apple: https://music.apple.com/au/artist/estradasphere/6461811
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3Qvn9ZR

High Castle Teleorkestra:
Apple: https://music.apple.com/au/artist/high-castle-teleorkestra/1615647280
Spotify:  https://spoti.fi/3NQ3BgI

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Picture this:  you meet someone for the first time.  Naturally, you ask "What kind of music do you like?"

In this situation what do you think would be the most common answer?

Is it something like "Oh, I like all kinds of music".

Personally, that answer doesn't cut it.  I need specifics.

So I always follow up by asking "What have you been listening to lately?".

Then we get down to the nitty gritty!

In this episode we chat about what we've been listening to lately.  There's some surprising, and very interesting inclusions.

Plus, we get a bonus quiz and the inaugural edition of Podcast Bingo.

Of course, we'd also love to hear about what you've been listening to lately.  Let us know!

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Remember those bands you used to love? Whose albums you'd intensely absorb? In this episode we chat about those bands that once burned bright in our lives but we now no longer love. 

What changed? It wasn't the music. It must've been something else.  

We dig deep to discover why we fall out of love of bands when once they meant the world to us. 

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Nickelback has developed meme status as being one of the worst bands of all time.

We dared ourselves to ask the question: is the hatred justified? Could it be just a feedback loop where the rhetoric of hating Nickelback leads to actual hatred leading to more hate-talk? Having never listened to Nickelback, Adrian and Leon put their ears, brains and their precious music streaming algorithm on the line and dive into the most successful Nickelback album, All the Right Reasons. 

The challenge is to then deliver an objective, in-depth review, to reflect on what this band is creating and in doing so determine whether Nickelback deserve the harsh criticism flung their way.  

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Adrian and Leon have something to get off their chests, never in their lives have they ever heard the following albums in their entirety - Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express and PJ Harvey's Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea. It is a blight on their listening record which has thankfully now been rectified with repeated, deep listening.
Hear what they have to say on two very different records from two very different time periods. 

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Just what is it that makes some songs sound timeless half a century later, and some songs sound dated less than a decade after recording?

What is it that makes Chuck Berry, Louis Armstrong, Adele, (certain) Nirvana songs and Marvin Gaye timeless?

Huey Lewis and the News, Depeche mode, Linkin Park and Atlantis by Donovan (just wait for that treat) all date so badly. Why is that? 

Leon kicks it off by taking the conceptual standpoint.

Adrian balances the ideas by talking about the sound. 

Between them, can they consolidate the elements that make a sound timeless? 

Reach out on the socials and let Super Sonic Chat know what you think makes a song timeless.

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“Any band that is still together after ten years—Please. Break up. Do your solo albums. Move on”, so said Sufjan Stevens, the acclaimed indie artist.

Is he right?  Does he have a point?

Does every band have a golden period that is over after ten years?

Which bands have gone on too long?

Which bands did it well and went out on top?

Leon cracks the case with a salient point about why bands end up stuck in a rut, making different versions of the same album after many years.

Adrian poses a thought experiment that would keep bands relevant, interesting and interested in making great, risky, creative music.

And what on Earth could the Indian Premier League Cricket have to do with it?

The boys also chat about an era in musical history where bands did not stay together long but broke up and reformed new ensembles over and over again, cross pollinating and creating a vibrant, rich vein of output.

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Did you know Jim Morrison of The Doors predicted the future of electronic music back in 1969?  We listen in to his prediction and chat about it's accuracy.  

We discuss a franchise plan to fund Daft Punk's retirement and debate whether it really is the dynamic pair of Frenchmen on stage when you see Daft Punk live.  We chat about The Chemical Brothers Live at the Big Day Out, warehouse parties, club culture, synthesizers and how innovation offers new pallets for musicians to paint with.  

The devil's advocate might say electronic music live is just a person on a stage pressing play on a laptop. Pointless.

We say otherwise.  Aphex Twin helps us make a point.  As does Frank Zappa, Nine Inch Nails, the Bloody Fist label from Newcastle in the 90s and more.

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A new stereo leads to a chat about the joys of deep listening.

But first, there's some things you can't unhear!  See if you can pick the mistakes in the three famous song snippets Ade plays for Leon.

Then the question is asked: When listening to music are you a researcher?  Or do you refuse to read a single thing and let the music move you? 

If you just listen, will you miss something crucial? If you research and read, are you allowing the influence of others to sway you too much? 

Ade and Leon do a deep dive into the pros and cons of both sides. Hear examples of how each method directly impacts on albums or songs. 

And most importantly, the episode centres on the absolute wonder of deep listening.

Tell us on the socials your experiences of deep listening. 

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In this, our 30th and final episode of 2021, we ask each other 'What have you been listening to this year?'

When I ask people 'What've you been listening to?', I love it when they reply with specifics.  So in this episode we dive right in with 5 albums each that we've been listening to in 2021.

We chat about new albums from new artists, old albums from old artists and other great discoveries, all of which were new to us and stuck with us across the year.

To close out the episode we ask each other 'what was your favourite Super Sonic Chat episode from the year'?

We'd love to hear from you: 

what were your favourite albums from the year? what was your favourite episodes of the podcast?

Hit us up!

And as always, we are super grateful for everyone that tuned in this year, or left us a message, a voicemail, an email or a review.

We'll be back for more thought experiments, debate and sonic chat about all things music and art in 2022.

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Is it possible convey the breadth and depth of everything an artist offers through the careful selection of only 5 songs? This is the fifth instalment in a short series where Super Sonic Chat strives to sum up the sonic palette of an artist to a hypothetical, uninitiated audience. 

Listen as Leon is introduced to the psychedelic sounds of Tame Impala, an artist that Adrian is very familiar with.

Follow along as Adrian meets the sultry tones of Tom Waits another individual that Leon understands intimately.

This time, the audience is real and the boys chat about being on the receiving end of this experiment, what it's like to discover new music and what they think of the other's recommendation.

Let us know if we picked the best 5 songs for this task.

Or if you met these artists for the first time, let us know what you thought.

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Where do you start with that classic or cult band that you seem to have avoided over the years?

It's a big ask to dive in to a full album or a lengthy playlist.

It's dangerous to ask a superfan to simply give you a quick overview.

In this episode we do the heavy lifting for you on an introduction to perhaps the greatest rock band of the 90s: Soundgarden.

Listen in real time as we curate the perfect 5 song set to whet your Soundgarden whistle.

These are not our favourite Soundgarden songs.  

These are not be the best Soundgarden songs.

These are the five songs that best represent all that Soundgarden encompass to a new listener.

If we've done our job correctly, you'll have a Soundgarden experience and be left with a curiosity to hear more. 

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It's almost an impossible mission!  

To sum up one of the most important modern bands in music history in only five songs.

In this episode we present to you our tasting plate for the Radiohead novice.

Imagine you meet someone who has little to no idea about a band you've loved for a long time.

You have a choice to make:

Do you launch in with the full backstory?  A deep dive into the members, the albums, the tours, the songs, the side projects, the role they played in music history and the depth of love you feel for them?

OR

Do you pique their interest with a few juicy tidbits and give them five key songs that deliver a good insight into the band?

We choose the second path.

Radiohead is a band we both have loved for a long time.  They're a totally unique band that played a pivotal part in the evolution of alternative rock from the 90s til now. 

Without wanting to overwhelm you, we simply present to you our Radiohead Primer: a band in five songs.

If you're a Radiohead fan, let us know if we get it right.

If you have no idea who Radiohead is, enjoy the journey and let us know your impression.

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In this episode we present to you our tasting plate for the Primus novice.

Imagine you're chatting with someone and it becomes apparent they have no idea about a band you've loved for a long time.

You have a choice to make:

Do you launch in with the full backstory?  A deep dive into the members, the albums, the tours, the songs, the side projects, the role they played in music history and the depth of love you feel for them?

OR

Do you pique their interest with a few juicy tidbits and give them five key songs that deliver a good insight into the band?

We choose the second path.

Primus is a band we both have loved for a long time.  They're a totally unique and cult level band that played an interesting part in the alternative rock explosion of the 90s.

Without wanting to overwhelm you, we simply present to you our Primus Primer: a band in five songs.

If you're a Primus fan, let us know if we get it right.

If you have no idea who Primus is, enjoy the journey and let us know your impression.

Either way, just remember Primus Sucks!

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One of the greatest chats you can have with a mate centers on an ultimate showdown: making them choose between two equally loved bands or artists. 

There is a special kind of joy in watching someone squirm as they struggle to make a decision and the process is often fascinating.  

These kind of conundrums and hypotheticals have been fueling classic music chat for decades.

We wanted to capture a series of these ultimate showdowns on this episode. 

Leon and Adrian set up several hypothetical and torturous situations and ask the other to make a choice. A final and ultimate choice between two favourites. 

If forced, what choices would you have made? We'd love to hear your take on these hypotheticals! 

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The Top 5. The 10 Greatest. The 500 All Time. 

Music commentary is filled with lists.  Fans are fascinated by them. Music media salivate over them.

Why?

In this very meta and totally experiential episode, Leon and Adrian set out to make their own list containing Ten Super Sonic Music Lists.  By dedicating themselves to this mission they aim to discover the answer to 'why people love music lists'!

The chat contains serious lists, weighty lists, ridiculous lists, frivolous and funny lists, inane and interesting lists.

There's outrage, frustration, amazement, hilarity and good times.

There's also some pointed conclusions about the joy and the junk of music lists.

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Some light relief for an uneasy time and current state of isolation. Leon and Adrian recall some of the songs that have given them the most joy through irreverence, biting social commentary, light-hearted whackiness and pure wit. 

Does humour belong in music? The chaps at Super Sonic Chat say unequivocally, "Yes!"

Some musicians discussed: Weird Al Yankovic, The Lonely Island, Primus, Electric Six, TISM, Bo Burnham and a smattering of others.

A quiet word of warning, there are some relatively adult themes discussed due to the provocative nature that comedy tends to have. 

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How fun is falling down rabbit holes when chasing new music?

This chat is about the joy of stumbling down a side alley in a town where you think you know most of the streets.

Its about new and interesting scenes that take you by surprise.

We chat about four moments in time and space that gave rise to new sounds, new fashions, new movements.

It's so fun to see how these moments changed music history forever.

We chat about:

- The new sounds emerging from kids coming of age in post-World War Two Germany that became known as Krautrock.

- New York in the fresh post-punk early 80s where artists are exploring a new noise.

- West-Africa in a post English commonwealth, post civil war 1970s where politics and funk combine with African rhythms to give birth to Afrobeat.

- The technical wizardry and incredible playing taking heavy music to an intricate and brutal new level in the Math-core scene.

Music fandom is endlessly rewarding.  We hope you enjoy this Super Sonic Chat as much as we did. 

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Leon and Adrian go head to head on the topic of Pop Music.
Adrian takes the stance that Pop has a legitimate place as a stylistic expression and Leon asserts that it is empty and predictable.
In preparation, Adrian developed a playlist of music that he enjoys thoroughly and that Leon had never heard in his life.
Leon weighs in with his opinion and they have at it!
Adrian prepares a surprise quiz and Leon prepares some a bonus extra never before heard on Super Sonic Chat: his first ever original pop song performed for your Super Sonic pleasure.  

If you love it, or if you can barely stomach it, you will take a side. Hear music from Carly Rae Jepsen, Harry Styles, Billie Eilish, Lorde, Niall Horan, Taylor Swift, The Weekend and more.

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It's time to tackle that moment when the front man takes a back seat - yep, this one is all about 'Instrumentals'.  No vocals. It's the bands time to shine.  In this episode Leon and Adrian discuss how instrumentals can be more than just filler and can be a fundamental part to a project. You'll also hear about their favourite examples that survive the ‘skip’ test. 

Bands chatted about in this episode: - Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Neu  - Parliament, Pavement, Primus - Spiderbait, Tame Impala, TOY, Tea Party - Throbbing Gristle, Three Trapped Tigers, - Frank Zappa, Dirty Three, Mike Patton, Fantomas, Mogwai, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Explosions In The Sky - El Michels Affair, Khruangbin, Combustible Edison. 

All this and more.  

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Machine learning and artificial intelligence. How is it being used in music today? How might it be used in future music? Is it music? Is it just a curiosity and gimmick? 

Adrian and Leon hash out the sounds of the present and science fiction future discussing music from The Lost Tapes of the 27 Club, Beautiful the World by Uncanny Valley, Holly Herndon, Yacht and a couple of other tidbits thrown in. 

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So much music, so little time. Once again we seek to make good our misdeeds by listening to classic albums we have never previously pressed play on.

In Rolling Stone's 2020 poll "The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time", Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon' and Neil Young's 'After the Gold Rush' were ranked number 55 and 90 respectively.  Embarrassingly, neither of your hosts had ever taken the time to listen to them.

In this episode Adrian and Leon make up for lost time, giving each album some deep listening before offering up our thoughts. It's not often you get to hear epic albums filtered through fresh ears.  Take the trip with us and find out if these classic albums live up to the hype.

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In this episode we tackle the famous Ship Of Theseus thought experiment and give it a Super Sonic twist. 

For centuries philosophers have debated whether a ship that has all its parts replaced over time is still the same ship.

Given a music twist, we ask if a band replaces all its members over time, is it still the same band?

At the heart of the matter is the question 'what is a band'?  What defines it?  Songs? Sounds? Members? Contracts?

We chat about bands that survived the departure of lead singers, some that did not and others that found a new way round the issue.  We even chat about a famous band that still plays and tours yet has no original members and the current members are from a completely different country than where the band formed and first found fame. 

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On 22nd April 2021 Leon and Adrian saw King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard play at the Enmore Theatre in Sydney, Australia.    The opening act was the equally incredible Tropical F%*k Storm.  We are very excited to tell you all about it.

Originally sold as a seated and masked show as per COVID restrictions, we were very excited when restrictions were lifted the week of the gig.  What transpired was a good old gig, standing up shoulder to shoulder amongst the throng, getting sweaty and having a time just like the old days.  Remember those?

In Australia we have had very little to no community transfer of COVID for a long time.  Venues are starting to open back up to gigs and it feels excellent.

Please support musicians and artists:  go to a show, buy a t-shirt or a record.

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There's a moment in a band room when one member turns to the rest and asks 'Does this work?'

A new riff, a new sound, a new style.

Is it fresh and new?  Dated or derivative?

What will fans think?  Should an artist care?

Should a band push the envelope or stay true to what made them successful?

In this episode we explore bands that have changed sounds:  the good, the bad and the ugly.

We traverse the fine line between exploration, creativity, commerce and bands as brands.  We knock around the idea of fan expectation versus an artists duty to follow the muse.

Which bands have made a name around changing style?

Which bands will never change?

Which bands found success with a new style and followed that sound?

Which bands grew in skill with instruments and technology, giving light to a new found sound and experimentation?

Which bands changed style and created an abomination!

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In a world where 60,000 songs are uploaded to streaming services every day, it is easy for quality recordings to get lost in the flood. This episode places these songs in the spotlight so they can get some attention they deserve. Hear a song about Anna, a lonely boy with a twist, then groove to some mambo and bop to channel z. There is a song about someone with a big mouth, someone who wants to fly like an eagle, gypsies and police also make an appearance. 

These may not be smash hits, may not be culture shifting sounds but we think these songs are worth your attention and deep listening will be rewarded.

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Is there anything that creates more fear and terror in a music fan than when their favourite band announces they are putting out a ‘concept album’.

Ade says 'No.  It's terrifying'. 

Leon says 'Hang on, I often listen to concept albums'.

Thus the debate commences.

Is it the sign of a desperately uninspired band to develop a song cycle based around a common theme?

Or is it an intelligent and creative way of creating a bigger, bolder piece of work?

We start off this chat with a challenge:  

- pitch a concept album as if we were members of a band (a band from a previous challenge in the episode 'Naming the Sound: The Best Band Names of All Time')

From there throw around the good, the bad and the very, very strange in the world of concept albums.

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For an artist, their instruments are their tools of trade.  Voice, piano, guitar and more.  They provide the colours that artists paint with, the tools that give language to their art.

It makes sense then that an artist can find fresh expression and explore new realms by simply reaching for a new instrument.  It's a new tool, a new colour giving way to new possibilities.

In this episode we chat about the strange, weird and very interesting instruments that musicians have taken up to create fresh and inspired new songs and sounds. Sometimes the instrument is familiar but how the artist chooses to use it is weird and wonderful.

We chat about musical worlds colliding; East meeting West, art meeting science, classical meeting modern.  We chat Flying Microtonal Bananas, Blue Maqams, non-instruments, music machines, stage lightning and when orchestras get weird.

The world of music fandom is endlessly interesting and always rewarding, especially when you venture off the beaten path.  Join us!

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So much music, so little time. Once again we seek to make good our misdeeds by listening to classic albums we have never previously pressed play on. 

In Rolling Stone's 2020 poll "The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time", Bob Dylan's 'Highway 61 Revisited' and Joni Mitchell's 'Blue' were ranked number 18 and 3 respectively.  Embarrassingly, neither of your hosts had ever taken the time to listen to them.

In this episode Adrian and Leon make up for lost time, giving each album some deep listening before offering up our thoughts. It's not often you get to hear epic albums filtered through fresh ears.  Take the trip with us and find out if these classic albums live up to the hype.

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We bravely tackle what some have called 'the worst album of all time' and dissect what the hell happened!

In 2011 two colossal icons of rock spent time jamming together.  Birthed from these sessions was Lulu: an album by Metallica and Lou Reed. Pitchfork called it 'especially repellent', NME called it 'baffling' and 'gruelling' yet David Bowie called it 'a masterpiece'.

At the core of this episode is a chat about the merits and necessity of artistic collaboration even when the result is divisive at best!

Collaboration is more important than just shifting units and gaining streams from a fresh fanbase.

There's much more at play here.... and we discuss both the great, and the not so great collaborations.  We delve into why all collaborations are potentially useful in the broad spectrum of music appreciation.   It's compelling stuff! 

Please.... subject yourself to as much Lulu as you can handle prior to listening to this episode.  Leon's reaction to the album is worth the price of admission alone!

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What are the most provocative lyrics you know?

When an artist seeks to deliberately provoke, how much is too much? Is there a line that should not be crossed? And what happened when teenaged Ade found his Mum reading the booklet to his Red Hot Chili Pepper's 'Blood Sugar Sex Magik' CD?

Join in as we start by playing a game of "guess how Kidz Bop turned this extremely risque pop sing into wholesome, parent approved content". 

We then kick around some serious philosophical ideas on lyrics, meta-physical poetry and the mirror that artists hold up to society.

Fair warning:  there's some explicit content and adult themes in this episode.

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When walking down the street why the hell does Leon wear noise cancelling headphones to block out noise only to listen to music that is pure noise? 

There is beautiful noise in the distortion of rock music, but what about music that only consists of noise? Is this still music? Even without obvious structure? 

Can a jackhammer make music? Why do we not enjoy the sound of an interrupting lawn mower, however we can enjoy noisy music? 

Today, this episode wrestles with these conundrums. 

Listen as we chat all things experimental, noise art, ambient, neo-classical, performance art, Dada, Music for Airports, The Futurists art movement and the paradox of white noise.

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Noise Playlist: http://apple.co/3cRVkJu

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This episode is about musical awakenings and to be more specific, it’s about our own musical awakenings with the birth of grunge. 
What the hell is grunge?
How do you know it when you hear it?
Get a little nostalgic with us as we debate the most important bands to dominate that beautiful era known as grunge.  

We try to hash out who the three big names are and why.  As always, hit us up on the socials and tell us who you think the big three names in grunge are.  

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Musician's want more fans right?

Can fandom be broken down scientifically?

If so, can musicians use that information to move people to a deeper support and appreciation of their music?

In this wide ranging chat Adrian poses a theory on how casual music fans can become super fans.

The boys take you on a journey down a winding road past Damien Rice's special intimate fan experiences,  to Marina Abramovic's provocative performance art and on to the famous psychological study on intimacy that suggests anyone can fall in love if they use these 36 Questions with a special finishing twist. 

Is there a link between being a super fan and falling in love?

Take a listen and let us know what you think.

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We imagine the most drool-worthy, incredible, sometimes impossible, hypothetical covers.

Naturally this leads us to a chat about cover songs that are better than the original.

What makes a good cover version?

Why do established artists make cover songs at all?

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This is a community service announcement for you dear listener.  In the near future when the pandemic apocalypse is upon us and the internet is fried, when we need to seek shelter in our lockdown bunkers and isolate for 12 to 24 to 36 months we will all be required to select five, and only five physical albums to accompany us and sustain us through tough times.

This is our take on the classic desert island discs discussion with a contemporary twist.  Lets get prepared.

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Consider this our gift to you, dear listener!  A sweet bonus episode full of the best new music we experienced in 2020. Adrian and Leon have each selected the top 10 albums that knocked on their door and followed them around this year leaving you, dear listener, with 20 albums worthy of your attention. To accompany this episode we have curated a sweet playlist that is compiled of two songs from each album for your listening pleasure. You can find it on Spotify and Apple Music. It bounces from indie rock, garage psych, space jazz, bent electronica, post-disco beats, experimental electronica, indie folk, post-rock, industrial noise and metal with a strong Australian music flavour. That's 20 + 20 songs to sum up our 2020 audioscape.  
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It's the most wonderful time of the year!  Or is it? 

Is Christmas music a tawdry commercial sell out or a spectacular celebration?

In this episode we order Michael Buble and Mariah Carey back into their Christmas cave and scratch a little further beneath the surface of Christmas music.

We even manage to share the Christmas music that gets a spin in our houses each year, discuss the joys of communal singing and pontificate where the hell all this Christmas music craziness comes from.

Merry Christmas to you and yours from us at Super Sonic Chat.

Thankyou for giving our first ten episodes such gracious attention.

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Naming your band, your art or your audio style seems as hard as packing a house into a suitcase.  

Listen as we tackle the challenge in real time. 

Twenty four hours prior to recording this episode we gave each other a fictitious band to name.   

You are invited to be a fly on the wall as we reveal the names we have chosen for these fantasy bands and talk through the process. 

We also count down our Top 5 band names of all time and the bands we like whose names we don't.  

Listen and tell us, how did we do? 

Can you think of a better name for our imagined bands?  

What are your favourite band names? 

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Album art sears itself in your mind. In this episode Adrian and Leon demonstrate that by describing an album cover for the other one to guess. 

Play along with the game yourself and discover how an album's image is as recognisable as the tunes on it. 

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This one is all about the magic of music videos.

The videos that stay with you forever.

The directors that break new ground.

And a bit about the 'Rage game'.

Let us know on Facebook your favourite music video of all time.

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Is music is a medium for the ears only or do we also experience music with our eyes? 

In this episode,  using only our voices, we compose the images in your mind as we paint a picture of how sound can colour our lives, in harmony with the visual realm.

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Adrian has a confronting experience when listening to some new music and looks to Leon for help. Why do some people seem to only want to listen to music from a particular era? Why were the [60s/70s/80s/90s/00s] the greatest time in music history? Super Sonic Chat is here to help. You can reach us at supersonicchat@gmail.com

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Vinyl records. Are they a big scam? Are they worth every cent? Why, in the age of access to an almost infinite streaming library, are people still compelled to buy a large, plastic disc and go to all that trouble to make that sound come out the speakers? 

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Does the perfect album exist? 

If so, how do you know when you are listening to perfection?

Listen up as we saddle our horses, check our maps, find true north and gallop off to seek out the hiding place of the perfect album. 

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What do you do when your significant other is a metalhead and you're not?  This episode discusses the gateway songs and sounds to find some common ground for a new couple.

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A thought experiment: what is the artist or band with the greatest appeal to absolutely everyone?

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