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After seven years, 133 episodes, and hundreds of hours of conversations with some of the world's most interesting coaches, The Coach's Journey Podcast is coming to an end. When I started the podcast in 2019, I didn't know how to make a podcast. I certainly didn't know where it would lead, who I'd meet, or how big a part of my life it would be. Seven years later, I'm a different person. In this final episode, I look back on the journey and share six of the biggest lessons I've learned. Not just about coaching and building a coaching business, but about making things that matter, the choices we make along the way, and how the work we do changes who we become. This includes the businesses I’ve decided not to build, the things that surprised me the most and the tension between following my energy and sticking with things long enough for them to be significant. This is a goodbye to the podcast, but not to the work. The conversations we've created will remain here for coaches to discover, revisit and learn from. Thank you for being part of the journey. If you like this episode, you’ll love Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg THINGS I TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: Why I’m closing the show: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/123-why-im-closing-the-coachs-journey-podcast Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach's Journey (Episode #132 / original #42): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/132-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-necessary-terror-of-our-growth-repost Adam Hulme on The Coach's Journey (Episode #13): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-swale-adam-hulme-podcasting The 12-Minute Method books: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books Steven Pressfield: https://stevenpressfield.com/ Seth Godin: https://www.sethgodin.com/ Marcia Reynolds on The Coach's Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-14-marcia-reynolds-becoming-world-number-five-coachin-guru-rgdph-b5j29 Meaningful Productivity with Robbie Swale (Episode #99): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/99-robbie-swale-the-secrets-of-meaningful-productivity-honourable-leadership-and-tilting-the-world-towards-heaven The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/book/ Jamie Smart on The Coach's Journey (Episode #16): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-16-jamie-smart Myles Downey on The Coach's Journey (first appearance): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack Joel Monk on The Coach's Journey (Episode #6): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Julie Starr on The Coach's Journey (Episode #58): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-58-julie-starr-the-world-works-from-the-inside-out The 12-Minute Method 100 Podcasts Challenge: https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge Kim Morgan on The Coach's Journey (Episode #25): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan Claire Pedrick on The Coach's Journey (Episode #44): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching The Coaching Business Flywheel and free ebook: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/ The Coach's Journey Group Programme: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/group-coaching-programme

As we wrap up The Coach’s Journey Podcast after seven years, we’re sharing some of our favourite episodes from the back catalogue… Unleash Your Complexity Genius is the fourth published work by Jennifer Garvey Berger, the co-founder and CEO of Cultivating Leadership, and when she says that her books are getting shorter there is a sense that it's because she's honing in on the rich essence of her life's work. In this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast, Jennifer and I share a conversation that traverses adult developmental theory, complexity, vulnerability, and the transformative power of community and of "fierce friendship". We explore the junctures of growth that often appear as binary choices, and how the way forward tends to spring from a more balanced or holistic approach. Jennifer pulls these strands together into something of a manifesto for the power of connection between coaches, leaders and people who together can hold uncertainty, and support each other to dream bigger and create a future filled with possibility – even as the world around us changes beyond recognition.  In this episode, we talk about: The necessary terror of change Developmental theory The trap we fall into when comparing ourselves to others The simplicity on the far side of complexity Polished and unpolished vulnerability, and how to create more love in organisations Jennifer also shares personal reflections on growth, and the inspiring story of how she came to live and work with her friends in a shared house in France. To learn more about Jennifer, visit https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/team-member/jennifer-garvey-berger or https://twitter.com/jgberger. For information about Robbie’s wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Download the free ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg - Unleash Your Complexity Genius by Carolyn Coughlin and Jennifer Garvey Berger https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/book/__trashed - Jennifer's other books https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/books - Joel Monk on the Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching - Art of Developmental Coaching with Coaches Rising https://www.coachesrising.com/artofdevelopmentalcoaching/ - The book that Robbie mentions, that is now finally out - The Power to Choose: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-power-to-choose - Robbie's 12-minute series of books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books - Catherine Fitzgerald https://changeelemental.org/people/catherine-fitzgerald/ - Executive Coaching, by Catherine Fitzgerald https://www.amazon.co.uk/Executive-Coaching-Practices-Perspectives/dp/0891061614 - Robert Kegan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan - In Over Our Heads, by Robert Kegan https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674445888 - Dave Snowden and Cognitive Edge https://thecynefin.co/ - Jean Piaget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Piaget - Cathy Presland on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-17-cathy-presland-government-advisor-to-three-principles-coach - Brené Brown https://brenebrown.com/ - Amy Edmondson https://amycedmondson.com/ - The article about Jennifer's dream of moving to France: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dreaming-good-company-jennifer-garvey-berger/ - Wendy Bittner http://www.cultivatingleadership.com/team-member/wendy-bittner - Nicole Brigandi https://www.nicolebrigandicoaching.com/

As we wrap up The Coach’s Journey Podcast after seven years, we’re sharing some of our favourite episodes from the back catalogue… Jamie Smart, Sunday Times best-selling author, speaker and coach, got to where he is today through a series of moments of profound realisation and insight. The first of which was a calling to public speaking even though he was terrified of it at the time. In 2003, Jamie started the company Salad, and quickly grew a tribe of over 80,000 people who devoured his articles and personal development products. Salad soon became one of the world’s leading NLP product businesses but, despite its success, Jamie once again found himself looking for something more. In 2008, a series of significant insights brought him to a new paradigm, the principles of CLARITY®. He stopped teaching NLP, sold Salad, and never looked back. Today, Jamie has five books to his name. He works with individuals and businesses helping them create the results that matter to them as well as running professional development workshops. He has appeared on Sky TV, the BBC, and in numerous publications including The Daily Telegraph. In this episode, we talk about: The two most valuable things that anyone can learn - the truth of how our experience is created and who we really are. Why he recommends working with a package model over charging by the hour - how to avoid losing your business over night. The breakthroughs in psychology that he believes are as significant as the discovery of germs were to medicine.  The five questions to ask yourself and your client at the beginning of a new engagement. Plus, we find out about childbed fever in the 1800s and what we can learn from four-year-olds.For more information about Jamie, visit: www.jamiesmart.com For information about Robbie’s wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Download the free ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg For links and shownotes visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/131-jamie-smart-how-having-a-100-belief-in-your-clients-innate-capacities-can-transform-the-way-you-work-repost

As we wrap up The Coach’s Journey Podcast after seven years, we’re sharing some of our favourite episodes from the back catalogue… Claire Pedrick was speaking at the ICF Conference in 2019 when a publisher approached her and said: “Have you got a book in you?” That book is Simplifying Coaching, and in it Claire offers a rallying cry for filtering out the noise of the coaching industry and honing in on the very human essence of transformative conversations. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Claire traces the steps that led her into a burgeoning coaching landscape around the turn of the century and reflects on the precious lessons learned from moments that sometimes felt like missteps. She shines a light on the “guru-ing” and “pedestal-ing” that can lead to problematic power dynamics in coaching, and shares the foundational values such as equity and fairness that underpin the success of 3D Coaching and saw her recognised with the 2022 Outstanding Contribution to Coaching Award from Henley Business School. Claire is a master of the art of communicating complicated things simply, but admits it took a long time to have the confidence to cut through complexity and offer straightforward truths when coaching or mentoring coaches. Listening to her speak, you cannot fail to appreciate the fundamental importance of her approach, which is explained with refreshing clarity.  In this episode, we talk about: Whether we have to be the things we want to develop in people The impact of modelling the boundaries we set The holy ground in the coaching space and how to interact with it Being wise about how many coffees to have with someone and still call it work Learning how to be silent and how to wait while coaching clients are doing good work Claire also talks about how to value your time, how to balance delivery and business development, and the importance of – as coaches – telling the truth about ourselves. To learn more about Claire, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairepedrick/ For information about Robbie’s wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Download the free ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): For full shownotes and links to everything we talked about, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/130-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching-repost

As we begin to wrap up The Coach’s Journey Podcast after seven years, we’re sharing some of our favourite episodes from the back catalogue… Ruth Rochelle’s life and career changed when, in 1979, she met Ariana Huffington and took part in the first Insight Seminar ever to happen in the United Kingdom. Ruth describes this moment as her invitation into self-reflection, the start of her career, and the time when she started to become the leader in her own life. In Café Royal on London’s Regent Street, with 100 people – including some famous names – she had an experience she calls mindblowing and heart-opening, revealing deep truths that had previously been hidden from view. In this episode of the Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ruth sheds light on the vast worlds of discovery that opened up to her following that first Insight Seminar, which propelled her into a career as a global facilitator and as a renowned expert on conscious leadership in teams and organisations. Ruth tells host Joey Owen how her remarkable appetite for learning and exploration also led her to study Internal Family Systems, which now underpins her work as an accredited master executive coach, IFS practitioner, systemic team coach and coaching constellations practitioner. In this episode, Ruth and Joey also talk about: Psychosynthesis and other therapeutic models that are harnessed by coaches How to shift from protective behaviours in order to stand up in your authenticity The ripple effect and how it can amplify both our limiting patterns and our effective ones The way systems theory can help us stay in balance and adapt to our current truth Ruth ends the podcast with a truly vital message about the parts of ourselves that we bring to interactions with others and the roles we all have to play in taking humanity forward. For more information about Ruth, visit https://www.ruthrochelle.com/ For more information about host Joey Owen, visit http://www.joeyowencoaching.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Download the free ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Ariana Huffington https://www.instagram.com/ariannahuff/?hl=en - Insight Seminars https://insightseminars.org/ - John Roger https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-08-14-vw-882-story.html - Russell Bishop https://russellbishop.com/about - Internal Family Systems https://ifs-institute.com/ - Psychosynthesis Coaching, Auburn Howard https://www.psychosynthesiscoaching.co.uk/ - NLP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming - Results Unlimited https://www.upwork.com/agencies/1140793201640026112/ - Internal Family Systems Therapy by Richard Schwartz https://www.amazon.co.uk/Internal-Family-Systems-Therapy-Guilford/dp/1572302720 - The Leadership Circle https://leadershipcircle.com/leadership-assessment-tools/leadership-circle-profile/ - Robert Kegan and the Immunity to Change model https://www.gse.harvard.edu/hgse100/story/changing-better#:~:text=Based%20on%2030%20years%20of,distortions%20that%20keep%20you%20from - AOAC master systems coach https://www.aoac.org/aoac-training-courses/ - Third Space https://www.thirdspace.london/ -Download the free ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

As we begin to wrap up The Coach’s Journey Podcast after seven years, we’re sharing some of our favourite episodes from the back catalogue… Sat atop a Welsh mountain in 2007 in a moment of depression and despair, Chris Joseph had the first in a series of instances of clarity that would eventually lead him to coaching. On the brink of a meltdown, he knew his Ph.D. in Computational Mechanics was no longer serving him. Buddhism, yoga and mediation became the elixir for him and soon he found he couldn't sleep with excitement at the discoveries he was making. His life changed when he trained to become a mindfulness teacher with Breathworks, and Chris went on to complete his Ph.D. and launch his first coaching practice. But it wasn't a success and in the end he gave it up. His extraordinary journey includes a multitude of highs and lows, from making £10,000 a month in passive income to losing it all to a fraudulent trader. Now he’s back coaching and headed for a seven-figure year with his highly successful practice. In this episode, we talk about: Where his practice went wrong the first time round. Why the inner work is so important - understanding that you can only take people as far as you can go yourself. Why a true insight always comes packaged with an action - an ‘outsight’ or an ‘outer action’. How to invite an individual to coaching - how to make it feel like a gift to the individual and not a request for yourself. Alongside the practical we get into some big topics: death, impermanence, the importance of play and the effects of all these on our lives. And it is a total pleasure to be in a space with Chris' beautiful open-heartedness. For more information about Chris, visit www.christopherjoseph.co.uk, find him on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/drchrisjoseph/ or on Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisjoseph.uk/ For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com. Read more about The Coach's Journey and sign up to our mailing list at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Download the free ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Music by My Good Man William listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): ~ Alex Swallow on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-62-alex-swallow-life-is-better-when-we-choose ~8: Rich Waterman: https://www.richwaterman.com/  ~10: The Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan Haidt: https://www.happinesshypothesis.com/ ~12: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/ ~12: Dick Bettinger: http://3principlesmentoring.com/index.html  ~12: Sydney Banks: https://sydbanks.com/ ~14: Breathworks: https://www.breathworks-mindfulness.org.uk/ ~20: Unleash the Power Within with Tony Robbins: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/events/unleash-the-power-within/  ~25: Unleash the Power Within with Tony Robbins: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/events/unleash-the-power-within/ ~26: The Coaching Academy: https://www.the-coaching-academy.com ~26: Richard Bandler: https://richardbandler.com ~26: John LaValle: https://www.nlplifetraining.com/trainers/john-lavalle ~26: The Prosperous Coach by Steve Chandler and Rich Litvin: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prosperous-Coach-Increase-Income-Clients/dp/1600250300  ~26: Breathworks: https://www.breathworks-mindfulness.org.uk/ ~27: Simon Coulson: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prosperous-Coach-Increase-Income-Clients/dp/1600250300 ~27: Peter Thompson: https://peterthomson.com/  ~27: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/  ~27: Project Kairos with Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/kairos/ ~30: Steve Hardison video: https://youtu.be/0Tine-9dz-Y FOR FULL SHOWNOTES VISIT https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/128-chris-joseph-how-to-become-an-overnight-success-in-10-years-from-ponzi-scheme-ruin-to-six-figure-coaching-months-repost

As we begin to wrap up The Coach’s Journey Podcast after seven years, we’re sharing some of our favourite episodes from the back catalogue… Coaching found Julie Starr without her looking for it, and she started to practice coaching before she knew what it was. As a project manager of large-scale change initiatives in big organisations, Julie was someone who people naturally turned to with problems ­– often complex, personal matters that required care and attention to their inner world. Julie acquired skills to enhance her ability to perform this role; tools like neuro-linguistic programming helped her to navigate one-to-one work, and also prepared her for the future that awaited her. At a time when coaching qualifications had yet to be developed, Julie began writing a book that would help people understand the one-to-one work she was doing. That book is The Coaching Manual and it is now in its fifth edition, having garnered critical acclaim from the likes of Sir John Whitmore, widely regarded as one of the founding figures of the coaching industry. Julie, now an executive coach, mentor, writer and speaker, has since written two more best-selling books on coaching as well as two works of fiction, all of which are inspired by her belief in the interdependency of people, and by her passionate enquiry into the nature of reality. A self-described seeker, Julie’s journey of exploration through personal and professional development charts a fascinating course through the last three decades and is full of interesting insights and suggestions for coaches on their own journey.  In this episode, we also talk about: Not allowing models and frameworks to become limiting factors in our work as coaches The power of non-attachment and the importance of working joyfully Staying true to ourselves, and resisting the temptation to climb a ladder that is against somebody else’s wall How to charge what you would be delighted with but not amazed by How to pursue the pathways that make sense to you in a turbulent, disorienting world We also discuss the biggest challenge we face as coaches: the inner and outer work we have to do to get ourselves out of the way in conversations. For more information about Julie, visit www.starrcoaching.co.uk or www.learnstarr.com. For more information about this episode’s host, Neil Mackinnon, visit https://neilmackinnon.net/. Download the free ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Links: -  Neuro-linguistic programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming - Richard Bandler and John Grinder https://www.pocketbook.co.uk/blog/2017/08/01/john-grinder-and-richard-bandler-nlp-neuro-linguistic-programming/ - Milton Erickson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson - Effective Coaching by Myles Downey https://pocketwisdom.blog/2022/08/10/effective-coaching-by-myles-downey/ - Coaching for Performance by Sir John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/coaching-for-performance-book - Co-active Coaching https://coactive.com/about/what-is-coactive - The GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Tim Gallwey https://www.performanceconsultants.com/tim-gallwey - Writing coach Marcia Yudkin https://www.yudkin.com/index.htm - Eloise Cook https://reedsy.com/eloise-cook - Kim Morgan on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan - The Institute of Self-Actualisation https://isaexperience.wordpress.com/ - Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum - The Journey https://home.thejourney.com/ - Julie’s first non-fiction book, From Magic to Memphis https://starrcoaching.co.uk/introducing-julies-debut-novel-magic-to-memphis/ - Truth Keeper, book one, by Julie Starr https://www.linkedin.com/posts/juliestarrcoach_truth-keeper-book-one-julie-starr-activity-7076863795129655296-cjpg/

For Dr. Erek Ostrowski, the quality of our reflection is the quality of our coaching. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, he describes how intentional, multifaceted reflection produces new understanding and enables us to take action in ways we could not previously envisage. As well as holding a PhD in Organisational Development and Change, and being a senior leadership and executive coach who founded Verve Coaching, Erek is the author of The Capable Group Coach, which “invites coaches and organisations to embrace the complexity, relational depth, and unique human potential that only group coaching can unlock”. Erek’s passion for group coaching, which he believes can help us to address a crisis of meaning that is emerging in the workplace, has fuelled his rise to the very top of his field, and in discussion with host Alex Whitton he explains why there is an increasing demand for group coaching from forward-thinking organisations. The vital importance of experimentation in coaching is a focus of this conversation, and Erek and Alex discuss how coaches can ensure their work is grounded in a solid evidence base while freeing themselves up to be guided by the knowledge that emerges through play and by trying out new things. Erek also speaks sagely about the indispensible value of curiosity in a multifaceted career, and about the tremendous cost we risk if we fail to attend to our gut instincts. This episode is packed full of wisdom and insight from a true innovator and thought leader, who shares his expertise on how to increase the value of your work by developing a practice that produces impact, meaning and possibility far beyond what takes place in the coaching room. Erek and Alex also talk about: • How often practice leads research and the power of learning through doing • The nuanced approaches required when working in different group coaching contexts • How shiatsu and embodied work inform Erek’s practice • The different possibilities that open up when working with a capabilities-based model rather than a competencies-based model • How to attune yourself to emergent demand, and create something that people really want! • The benefits of getting involved in scholarship to your positioning in the field of coaching • The crucial differences between group coaching and team coaching THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT: - Systems theory https://thedecisionlab.com/reference-guide/psychology/systems-theory - Organisational theory https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/computer-science/organisational-theory - The GROW model https://www.coachingcultureatwork.com/the-grow-model/ - David Kolb, learning cycle - https://www.britishschoolofcoaching.com/kolbs-learning-cycle-in-coaching/ - John Dewey, Learning by doing - https://www.simplypsychology.org/john-dewey.html - William Bridges, Transition theory - https://wmbridges.com/about/what-is-transition/ - Malcolm Knowles, adult learning theory - https://infed.org/dir/welcome/malcolm-knowles-informal-adult-education-self-direction-and-andragogy/ - The Capable Group Coach, by Erek Ostrowski https://www.routledge.com/The-Capable-Group-Coach-Bridging-Knowledge-and-Practice-for-Transformative-Learning-and-Change-in-Groups/Ostrowski/p/book/9781041158516 - Tony Grant, https://instituteofcoaching.org/author/grant-anthony - Irvin Yalom, The Theory and Practices of Group Psychotherapy https://www.yalom.com/ - David Drake, https://www.davidbdrake.com/ - Ken Giglio, Mindful Leadership https://mindful-leaders.com/ - Jevons Paradox, https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2025/02/04/g-s1-46018/ai-deepseek-economics-jevons-paradox BIOGRAPHY FROM EREK Dr. Erek J. Ostrowski, PhD, PCC, is a senior leadership and executive coach, coaching author and researcher, and founder of Verve Coaching. With over 25 years of experience, he designs and facilitates systemic coaching interventions for senior leaders and organizations navigating rapid change, growth, and scale.

When five-time published author Helen ONeill entered the coaching space, she found that many coaches had misconceptions about writing and publishing. Some felt they needed permission to write their book, while others were held back by gatekeeping, snobbery and exploitative business practices. Her response was to set up Coach Write, the book coaching business she runs to help coaches make the choices that are right for them as they navigate their publishing journey, drawing on her expertise as an EMCC-accredited coach and a published author in a range of genres. The Coach Write stream of Helen’s business forms part of her portfolio career, and in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, she tells host Alex Swallow about how she spent 20 years gaining experience in recruitment, human resources and psychometrics before becoming a portfolio career and change management specialist. Helen helps people who want a life and a career comprised of several threads to weave them together in a way that is sustainable and nourishing, ensuring the common pitfall of burnout is avoided altogether. She speaks about the boundaries and strategies that underpin this process, and describes the many synergies between the secrets of building a thriving author business and becoming a successful coach. Helen is passionate about creating a space for coaches to write and publish, where they can build a truly fulfilling life of variety, challenge and achievement. In this episode she cuts through the nonsense with practical, inspirational advice for anyone seeking to make a well-chosen next step in their career. Helen and Alex also talk about: • How to structure a portfolio career to ensure your time, energy, and income are in balance • Setting up a no-stress side hustle that puts a bit of joy into the world • The “messy middle” of mid-to-senior level work and the many different paths that it can lead to • ‘AI vertigo’ and how to get on the front foot rather than living in fear of AI • How to build your online presence without draining your soul by focusing on what you love doing THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Coach Write https://coachwrite.co.uk/ - Gather and Grow https://www.gatherandgrow.community/ - EMCC https://emccglobal.org/ - Time to Think by Nancy Kline https://www.timetothink.com/books/time-to-think/ - Barefoot Coaching https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/ - The Sheffield Coaching Exchange https://www.linkedin.com/company/sheffield-coaching-exchange/ - Robbie Swale’s Coaching Business Flywheel https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel BIOGRAPHY FROM HELEN Helen ONeill spent 20 years leading complex change portfolios before embarking on her own successful portfolio career. Today she’s an EMCC accredited coach, five-time published author, and the founder of Coach Write, where she helps coaches write and publish books that position them as thought leaders. She rarely watches television, she’s rubbish at updating social media, and she tries to avoid the news as much as possible. Instead, she packs her life with experiences, achievements, and laughter, and she loves helping others do the same.

When we truly trust a client with our thinking, we can make space for them to use it in their own way. This trust is at the heart of Nishe Patel’s coaching practice, and in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast she explains how occupying a space of not-knowing can pave the way to deep and genuine connections between coaches and their clients. In conversation with Alex Whitton, Nishe brings her expertise to bear on vital questions about the very nature of the curiosity that we prize so highly in coaching and how we can harness curiosity in the spirit of play, creativity and an interest in the person rather than the problem. Nishe experienced a magical moment when she first encountered coaching, and she speaks about the one question that brought her to tears when it was first asked to her within a thoughtfully held coaching framework. This magic gave her the confidence to quit her job in order to embark on several years of training that transformed her career and her life. Nishe’s training includes neuro-linguistic programming, hypnosis, and emotion-focused therapy, and she discusses the benefits of being able to integrate working with the unconscious as well as the conscious mind in her practice. Nishe also explains how taking a step back from her coaching career in order to recover from an operation produced insights into the expectations she placed on herself and her clients that would reshape her approach to her work. The rise of AI coaching and mentoring are discussed, along with the principles that underpin various modalities of practice with an ever-increasing reach and appeal. After over a decade in practice, Nishe remains hugely excited by the learning and development that coaching still has to offer her. This episode captures the unfolding nature of a coaching practice, as Nishe shares how she is still discovering new layers of meaning in her work. Nishe and Alex also talk about: How to create the conditions for a deep connection with coaching clients that goes beyond cognitive understanding Striking a balance between reassurance and challenge How to ensure your business enables you to live the lifestyle you want to lead The times when coaches need to disappear for their clients to own their growth How to let go of the need to know why, in order to be with what is THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Master Certified Coach training from the ICF https://coachingfederation.org/credentialing/icf-credentials-overview/mcc/ - NLP coach training https://nlpuktraining.com/ - Cyclothymia https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/cyclothymia/ - ADHD https://adhduk.co.uk/ - ACTP https://myactp.com/coach-certification/ - Animas https://www.animascoaching.com/ - EFT (Emotion-focused therapy) https://www.priorygroup.com/our-services/types-of-therapy/emotion-focused-therapy-eft - Eric Berne and Transactional Analysis https://ericberne.com/transactional-analysis/ - Sir John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/about-us/sir-john-whitmore/ - Eriksonian hypnotherapy https://www.hypnotherapy-directory.org.uk/approach/ericksonian.html  - Anise Frost https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/118-anise-frost-how-to-craft-presence-and-ask-magic-questions - Sam Isaacson https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/112-sam-isaacson-the-challenges-facing-coaching-in-the-age-of-ai - Shruti Sonthalia https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/108-shruti-sonthalia-awareness-combined-with-action-is-the-key-to-creating-change BIOGRAPHY FROM NISHE Nishe is a coach, facilitator, mentor, and supervisor with a genuine passion for helping people think differently and be themselves in whatever way they choose. Her approach is ever-evolving as she thoughtfully integrates a variety of techniques, theories, and personal experiences into her practice. Nishe predominately works through associate roles, coaching senior leaders and small business owners as they navigate the complexities of work.

After almost 7 years, I’ve decided to close The Coach’s Journey Podcast this autumn. As I have done throughout The Coach’s Journey, I want to share my thinking about my business with you, in service of supporting you to think about yours in new ways. And so in this episode, I share my thinking on closing down this podcast, what will happen between now and the final episode in October, and what I’ve learned from the process of deciding to close the show. I also share big news about The Coach’s Journey Community, and how my work with coaches is evolving in an exciting new group programme for coaches launching this year. In particular, I talk about: How I use my energy as a compass in my business. What can happen if we’re brave enough to say ‘No’ to things most people aren’t brave enough to say ‘No’ to. The crucial distinction between the work and the container. How I’m going to take what was magical about The Coach’s Journey Community and build it into a new programme, which creates even more tension and possibility for transformation. It's exciting times... and it's bittersweet.  But I'm so proud of what we've made here at The Coach's Journey, and I know you've valued it too. I'm looking forward to sharing some fantastic new content - and shining a spotlight on some amazing old content - over the final few months of the show, before we close in October.  And if you’re curious to find out more about my new group programme, which I outlined in this episode, you can read more and apply here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/group-coaching-programme If you like this episode, you’ll love Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg THINGS I TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: My new group programme for coaches - read more and apply here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/group-coaching-programme The Coach’s Journey Mailing list: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/subscribe Episode #56: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-56-introducing-the-new-hosts-ushering-in-the-future-of-the-coachs-journey My ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel A podcast deep dive series on the flywheel and all its parts: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/dive-deep-into-the-foundations-of-a-sustainable-coaching-business-via-the-coaching-business-flywheel Neil’s interview with Julie Starr: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-58-julie-starr-the-world-works-from-the-inside-out 12-Minute Method Books: https://geni.us/12minutemethodseries The Power to Choose: https://geni.us/powertochoose Robbie’s mailing list: https://www.robbieswale.com/mailing-list Joey interviewing Robbie, particularly about Meaningful Productivity: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/99-robbie-swale-the-secrets-of-meaningful-productivity-honourable-leadership-and-tilting-the-world-towards-heaven Robbie’s Meaningful Productivity Blueprint: https://www.robbieswale.com/meaningful-productivity The podcast episode about creating The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-new-work-group-coaching-tcj-communty If you’ve consumed ALL the content at http://www.thecoachsjourney.com and still want more, email me here: hello@thecoachsjourney.com.

Throughout a career spanning roles as a teacher, BBC television producer, coach and prolific author, Jenny Rogers has never been afraid of getting things wrong. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, the executive coach, supervisor, trainer and author of coaching titles such as Are You Listening? tells host Neil Mackinnon about the vital importance of experimentation and of embracing our mistakes in order to benefit from a lifetime of learning experiences that make us better coaches and ground us in our humanity. Jenny flies the flag for a whole-life perspective in coaching, eschewing narrow approaches in favour of a style that acknowledges the way our personal and working lives are inextricably intertwined, and makes room for all the parts of us. A deep interest in psychotherapy has enriched Jenny’s coaching practice and she highlights the modalities that fascinate her the most, as well as the key therapeutic ideas and techniques that are readily transferrable to any coaching practice. Jenny also discusses her latest books, which address important questions about navigating boundaries as a new coach and working through the challenges many women face in midlife. This episode is full of sage advice drawn from a wonderfully diverse, rich career in coaching and creativity, shared by a practitioner whose dauntless spirit of curiosity and passion for understanding human relationships is as infectious as it is inspiring. Jenny and Neil also talk about: - The relationship between trauma-aware coaching and psychodynamic therapy - Nurturing a healthy writing practice and overcoming creative blocks - How we accumulate rigid ways of thinking, and why it is hard to make change on your own - The art of embodying a place of non-judgement, and offering challenge with compassion THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Jenny Rogers https://www.jennyrogers.com - BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk - Delia Smith https://www.deliaonline.com - Madhur Jaffrey https://www.madhurjaffrey.com - BBC Two https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo - BBC Books https://www.penguin.co.uk/company/publishers/bbc-books - Columbia University https://www.columbia.edu - Management Futures https://www.managementfutures.co.uk - Are You Listening (book) https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/111/1115931/are-you-listening/9780241973986.html - Julia Vaughan-Smith https://www.juliavaughansmith.com - Nscience https://nscience.uk - Franz Ruppert https://www.franz-ruppert.de/en/ - Irvin Yalom https://www.yalom.com - The Gift of Therapy (book) https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-gift-of-therapy-irvin-d-yalom - Carl Rogers https://www.britannica.com/biography/Carl-Rogers - Gabor Mate https://www.upaya.org/person/dr-gabor-mate - University College Hospital London https://www.uclh.nhs.uk - Guildhall School of Music & Drama https://www.gsmd.ac.uk - How Not to Be a Doctor, by John Launer https://www.duckworthbooks.co.uk/book/how-not-to-be-a-doctor/ - Barbican Centre https://www.barbican.org.uk - City of London Corporation https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk - EMCC Global https://www.emccglobal.org - ILM https://www.institutelm.com - Coaches Training Institute (Co-Active) https://coactive.com BIOGRAPHY FROM JENNY I am an executive coach, coach trainer and supervisor, and accreditation assessor for APECS, the premier coaching accreditation body of the UK. Along with these roles, I am a writer, textile artist, cook, grandmother and keen walker. Thirty five years ago, I was an early entrant to the world of coaching, after earlier careers in teaching, television production and publishing. Typically, my clients are facing a major transition in their lives and find that a coaching perspective is the key to finding solutions that work. As a coach I work with senior clients in the law, medicine, finance, healthcare, performing arts and media along with volunteer roles for severely disadvantaged women.

Myles Downey’s new book, The Sessions, marks a transition, a metamorphosis in his influential body of work. And that becomes the theme of this, his third appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast. What happens when it is no longer sustainable to remain what you have been? What is it like to have an idea - like Myles did with The Sessions more than 30 years ago - and not be able to let it go? And for Padraig, the protagonist of The Sessions, what is it like for someone to step into their own shoes, becoming a leader, becoming oneself as a leader? That is just the start, though, in a wide-ranging conversation about Myles’ work, his new book, and what he has coming up next as part of what has already been an incredibly influential and impactful career, which started working closely with Sir John Whitmore in the early days of coaching in the UK and passed through The School of Coaching, his bestselling book Effective Modern Coaching and his powerful work on genius, which culminated in the book, Enabling Genius. In particular, we talk about: Whether it is our duty and responsibility to express ourselves. Poetry, prose, fiction, non-fiction, and Myles’ relationship to reading and writing (and what this has to do with coaching). Myles’ passion for human nature, creativity and how human beings should be more of themselves, not less of themselves. The close relationship between genius and being seen as mad, and why some leaders and CEOs see genius as dangerous. One of the most powerful coaching exercises Myles did with Robbie when he was Robbie’s coach. And at the end, Myles tells a moving story about the influence of his wife, Jo, on The Sessions and his wider work, and gives a tantalising trailer for what might be his next book: The Inner Game of Leadership - what it takes to express oneself, configured around the notion of leadership. To listen to Myles’ first appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey To listen to his second appearance on the show, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/69-myles-downey-what-is-effective-coaching-performance-coaching-when-to-be-directive-changing-clients-maps-of-reality-and-more For more information about Myles, visit www.mylesdowney.com or find him on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/mylesdowney For more information about Robbie Swale, visit www.robbieswale.com. Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): Myles' previous appearances on The Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/69-myles-downey-what-is-effective-coaching-performance-coaching-when-to-be-directive-changing-clients-maps-of-reality-and-more The Sessions by Myles Downey: https://thesessions.online/ and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sessions-tale-leadership-Dublin-pubs-ebook/dp/B0GKCWPD4B/ The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inner-Game-Tennis-ultimate-performance/dp/1447288505/ Myles’ books: Effective Modern Coaching, The Enabling Manager, Enabling Genius: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Effective-Modern-Coaching-principles-successful/dp/191595116X/ The fantasy novels where Robbie learned why poetry matters was The Long Price Quartet by Daniel Abraham: https://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Long-Price-Quartet/dp/B074CFZ29B Joseph Campbell: http://robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2024/10/9/the-insecure-way-is-really-the-secure-way Strong Ground by Brene Brown: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strong-Ground-Leadership-Tenacity-Vermilion/dp/178504320X Roberto Assagioli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Assagioli BIOGRAPHY FROM MYLES Myles Downey is a recognized authority on Performance, Coaching and Leadership and the author of three classics in the coaching and performance arena: ‘Effective Modern Coaching’, (330,00+ books sold); ‘Enabling Genius – a mindset for success in the 21st Century’; ‘The Enabling Manager – how to get the best out of your team’. Myles is one of the leading executive performance coaches in Europe, with global experience (Europe, North and South America, Asia-Pacific, UAE). He has worked across the C-suite in many prestigious organisations over the past 35 years, in a wide variety of industries, including Banking and Financial Services, Manufacturing, Oil and Gas, Professional Services, Tech, the Public Sector and Sports. Myles was the founder of The School of Coaching (1996 to 2012), at the time the premier institution for coach training in Europe. Myles has deployed his performance coaching programs with the Senior Coaches of the England Rugby Team and with the New Zealand Elite Rugby Coaches. Myles has been a speaker at many leadership conferences, including the BBC’s Conference for its top 400 senior executives, the McKinsey Global Partners Conference in Singapore and the ICF Global Conference in Malmo, to name a few. After 33 years living in London, Myles now lives in Norfolk, England. He was born in Dublin, Ireland in 1959. Myles plays for Norfolk Veterans Tennis and competes occasionally on the ITF Masters Tour.

When Mel Sims discovered coaching, she was adamant that nobody could understand her life. Her journey into coaching allowed her to put down the mask, harness her strengths, and re-emerge into the world as a neurodivergent emotional coach. Mel trained as a coach while learning about herself through the lens of an ADHD diagnosis. As well as offering her a pathway of personal growth, these experiences helped Mel find her niche through the realisation that neurodivergent people need a particular coaching approach. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Mel speaks to host Joey Owen about different styles of emotional communication, and the many ways in which people can be misunderstood. She talks about how being an “unpolished” coach enables her to offer a space where people can let go of their need hide their feelings and be guided by an authentic intuition. Mel offers several brilliant metaphors and visualisation techniques that illuminate this episode, such as the idea of wearing a colander on your head as a way to filter information, and thinking of neurodivergent minds as stars that have become more visible in our world of modern telescopes and greater understanding. The challenges of time management, rest and staying grounded are explored in this episode as Mel describes how she tailors coaching to people who might need alternative approaches to scheduling, flexibility, communication and depth. Mel and Joey also talk about: The intuitive, bordering-on-magical connection that neurodivergent people share having navigated shared challenges How to make space for emotional outpourings that can have a transformative impact in coaching sessions A psychological technique that enables a kinder, more compassionate approach to self-coaching How to own your weak spots and set healthy expectations Mel also explains why she starts some of her inspirational coaching talks wearing a snorkel, a diving mask and a pair of flippers! For more information about Mel, visit: https://melsimslifecoach.co.uk or @theadhdhummingbird on Facebook and Instagram For more information about host Joey Owen, visit http://www.joeyowencoaching.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Robbie Swale’s 12-Minute Method books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books - Ruth Kudzi https://www.ruthkudzi.com/ - ICF https://coachingfederation.org/ - John Demartini https://drdemartini.com/ - Calendly https://calendly.com/ - Meta Business Suite https://www.facebook.com/business/tools/meta-business-suite - Inside Our Minds with Chris Packham https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0bbnh47 - Eye movement desensitisation and reprocessing (EMDR) https://emdrassociation.org.uk/ - Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria (RSD) https://www.additudemag.com/rejection-sensitive-dysphoria-and-adhd/ - Transactional Analysis https://www.simplypsychology.org/transactional-analysis-eric-berne.html - Episode #116 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, on the importance of having your own coach https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/116-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-investment-youll-make-in-your-coaching-business - Patience https://www.channel4.com/programmes/patience LINKS FROM MEL: - My favourite ‘emotions in individuals’ viewing https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p0b8kmch/couples-therapy - Shame and ADHD https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002c6bb - Being different and anxious as an Autistic person - https://www.channel4.com/programmes/are-you-autistic Free additional training for coaches with Positive Intelligence (do the test first to see what your Sabateurs are) https://www.positiveintelligence.com/saboteurs/ - Discovering your values quiz (I realised my ad agency days and working with under 5’s was all about loving helping people) https://drdemartini.com/pl/play?url=%2Fwhat-are-values%2F - Great book on RSD (hating people being cross with you) https://atlantic-books.co.uk/book/the-courage-to-be-disliked/ - And another one written by a brilliant ADHD podcast host https://www.sheldonpress.co.uk/titles/alex-partridge/why-does-everybody-hate-me/9781399827843/

If coaching was a competition, Dorie Clark would be a truly fearsome competitor. A university graduate at the age of 18, she has since embarked on a unique career spanning journalism, politics, writing, coaching, consultancy, education and community building. And that’s without mentioning her musicals, stand-up comedy, TED talks and conferences! Thankfully, Dorie is with us on this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast to insist that coaching is not a competition. On the contrary, she says we all need each other and must find a community of practitioners who can support us in our goals as we navigate an ever-changing coaching landscape. Dorie launched her first consulting and coaching practice in 2006, before rising to the very top of her profession. She was named the world’s #1 communication coach in the Marshall Goldsmith Leading Global Coaches Awards, and is the bestselling author of books like The Long Game, Entrepreneurial You, and Stand Out, which was named the #1 Leadership Book of the Year by Inc. magazine. In conversation with Alex Swallow, Dorie draws on her vast and varied experience as she shares personal and professional insights about overcoming barriers to success in coaching, debunking commonly held myths and barriers to personal development that keep many of us from fulfilling our potential. She offers an invaluable perspective on what coaches can do to future-proof themselves in the age of AI, and shares learning from her Trajectory Mastermind thought-leadership group and her Recognized Expert reputational development course. Dorie also speaks about her long-term goal to be US ambassador to a foreign country, and reveals an exciting announcement she is about to make that will be important for coaches everywhere to pay attention to! Dorie and Alex also talk about: • The challenge of being a beginner and how to cultivate an authentic, confident stance • Where to find the roots of our self esteem and how to strengthen it • Handling knockbacks and rejection in a way that actually drives you and your business forward • How to spot structural risks in your coaching business and how to protect yourself against the winds of fortune THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Cheryl Richardson https://cherylrichardson.com/ - Recognized Expert https://learn.dorieclark.com/courses/expert - Dorie’s work in Harvard Business Review https://hbr.org/2011/03/reinventing-your-personal-brand - Dorie’s podcasts https://dorieclark.com/resources/podcasts/ - Dorie’s TED Talks https://www.ted.com/speakers/dorie_clark - Dorie’s LinkedIn newsletter https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/dorie-clark-newsletter-6640647216497209344/ - Jim Rohn, You are the Average of the Five People You Spend the Most Time With https://www.jimrohn.com/wisdom/articles/average-of-five-people-you-spend-time-with - Dorie’s musicals https://dorieclark.com/musicals/ - RExCon/REx Summit conference for Recognized Expert https://learn.dorieclark.com/courses/rexsummit - Marshall Goldsmith https://www.marshallgoldsmith.com/ - Dorie’s books https://dorieclark.com/books/ - dorieclark.com/subscribe  - Dorie’s course on Writing for High Profile Organisations https://learn.dorieclark.com/courses/highprofile - Trajectory Mastermind https://learn.dorieclark.com/courses/mm

By studying Plato and Socrates for more than a decade, Anise Frost learned the art of asking questions that unlock the hidden parts of people. Her mastery of that skill has forged relationships of trust with brands and organisations who turn to her for team coaching and consultancy. In return she helps them explore deeply and unearth new pathways for development. Anise was a maths teacher when she discovered coaching, and her years in the classroom gave her relational skills, resilience and an ability to hold space that would be difficult to develop in the same way in any other setting. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Anise describes how team coaching allows her to bring “all the magic” of teaching, coaching, and neuro-linguistic programming together to enhance collaboration, make group dynamics visible, and instill purpose in the teams she works with. In conversation with host Alex Whitton, Anise describes how she curates coaching spaces in which men can be vulnerable, as well as spaces where women in leadership can accelerate their development. She also speaks about the Executive Round Table discussions she facilitates for her LinkedIn contacts, offering a space where people from divergent industries can reflect on resonant themes and topics. Anise and Alex also talk about: Having the confidence to not only sit with uncertainty but flex in response to it How to keep your cup full and avoid the common pitfall of compassion fatigue What happens when we focus too much on asking the right question and not enough on being curious How to stop working against the grain of your own preferences when building your coaching business Anise also shares the story of meeting with one of the world’s biggest brands and explains how she side-stepped her imposter syndrome to allow her expertise and brilliance to shine undimmed. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: -  The Coaching Academy https://www.the-coaching-academy.com/ - More Happi https://morehappi.com/ - Women in Business Network https://wibn.co.uk/ - Sam Isaacson on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/112-sam-isaacson-the-challenges-facing-coaching-in-the-age-of-ai - Claire Pedrick on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching - NLP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming - Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/ - Nicky Davies https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicky-j-davies-executivecoach/ - Patrick Lencioni, The Five Dysfunctions of a Team https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Dysfunctions_of_a_Team

When your coaching business feels too hard, it’s rarely just about strategy. In this conversation (a follow-up to Episode #115), Ruth Saville, Alex Whitton and Robbie Swale explore three of the biggest pressure-points coaches face as they try to stay in the work for the long game: self-doubt, money, and the quiet temptation to question everything when things feel wobbly. Together, we talk about: Self-doubt: how it shows up, why it’s so persistent, and what helps you stay grounded (including building your own evidence bank of impact) Tactics and alignment: the difference between “hard because it’s growth” and “hard because it’s avoidable suffering” Money pressure: why financial scarcity affects how we think, and how simple, practical actions can bring steadiness back Staying in the game: creating systems that help you keep moving even when you’re tired, overwhelmed, or questioning your path This is an episode for coaches who want to keep going - without pretending it’s easy, and without needing to take themselves quite so seriously along the way. And if you’d like support with all of this - building the business and staying human while you do it - you can explore The Coach’s Journey Community here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community Listen to Part 1 of this conversation: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/115-what-do-you-do-when-your-coaching-business-feels-too-hard Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. For more information about Ruth, visit https://www.ruthsaville.co.uk/ For more information about Alex , visit http://www.exploregrowbe.com/ For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN Free Ebook: An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community Get to know Ruth better: Robbie’s interview with Ruth on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-66-ruth-saville-how-to-be-a-rebel-misbehave-more-and-set-your-sights-on-being-a-master-coach Get to know Alex better: Robbie’s interview with Alex on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-64-alex-whitton-balancing-the-being-and-the-doing Part 1 – What Do You Do When Your Coaching Business Feels Too Hard https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/115-what-do-you-do-when-your-coaching-business-feels-too-hard The Power to Choose by Robbie Swale: https://geni.us/powertochoose The Power to Choose in conversation on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-114-robbie-swale-the-power-to-choose-calm-complexity-and-the-courage-to-be-fully-yourself The Coach’s Journey – Writing: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing The Coach’s Journey – Videos: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/videos Joseph Campbell quote from the Power of Myth and Alex’s blog on it: https://www.exploregrowbe.com/blog/what-are-the-rules-we-hold-ourselves-to-where-did-they-come-from-and-how-are-they-serving-us-nownbsp  Campbell and Bill Moyers talking about Myth, Sacrifice and Bliss: https://billmoyers.com/content/ep-4-joseph-campbell-and-the-power-of-myth-sacrifice-and-bliss-audio/  Philosophise this - Silence, Obedience and Joy https://www.philosophizethis.org/podcast/episode-158-the-creation-of-meaning-nietzsche-the-ascetic-ideal-f8k5h-k8xfx Ashana Crichton on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/98-ashana-crichton-the-potential-for-true-partnership-if-we-pay-attention-to-power Chloe Garland on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-65-chloe-garland-the-jam-donut-principle-quarter-life-crises-and-the-philosophy-of-coaching Jenny Bird on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/109-jenny-bird-the-joy-of-sparkly-new-things The ICF’s Global Coaching Study report - https://coachingfederation.org/resources/research/global-coaching-study/  Patrick Quinton-Smith on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/107-patrick-quinton-smith-clarity-is-revealed-in-momentum-so-build-momentum-and-clarity-will-come Henrietta Nelson on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-46-henrietta-nelson-nobody-else-can-put-a-feeling-in-you Rebecca Norton  on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/96-rebecca-norton-how-coaching-walks-can-guide-us-to-new-pathways-through-life Robbie’s book How to Keep Going When You Want to Give Up: https://geni.us/justdoit Dan Pink – “When” (timing & energy rhythms) https://www.danpink.com/books/when/ Elizabeth Gilbert - Big Magic - https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/ Ellie Scarf on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/102-ellie-scarf-our-stories-and-scars-can-be-points-of-connection Ellie Scarf’s podcast episode, The Funds are in the Follow Up - https://www.elliescarf.com/podcasts/the-business-of-executive-coaching/episodes/2148989827 James Clear, Atomic Habits - https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits Atomic Habits – Business appendix (PDF) https://s3.amazonaws.com/jamesclear/Atomic%2BHabits/Business%2BAppendix.pdf The Art of Possibility (Zander & Zander) https://www.benjaminzander.org/the-art-of-possibility/ Robbie’s Zone of Genius blog - https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/2/3/the-zone-of-genius-the-most-powerful-thought-experiment-for-personal-transformation The Prosperous Coach (Rich Litvin & Steve Chandler) - https://richlitvin.com/book/

Why is it that so many coaches support others to grow… but hesitate to invest in support for themselves? In this episode, Robbie reflects on a simple but powerful belief: if there’s one thing that consistently makes the biggest difference to the success and sustainability of a coaching business, it’s having a coach of your own. Drawing on his own experience - including working with many coaches over the years - Robbie explores what really changes when you stop trying to do this alone and allow yourself to be supported… And how it has surprisingly wide-reaching impacts on your business. This isn’t a pitch. It’s an honest account of what happens when a coach becomes a client. Robbie shares: What you learn about enrolling clients by being on the other side of the decision How working with different coaches shaped his values, style, and way of leading conversations Why hiring a coach accelerates your development as a coach - not by copying, but by trusting your own style How being coached helps untangle money stories, pricing doubts, and questions of worth What it’s like to experience the middle of a coaching journey as a client - including doubt, fear, and the urge to quit Why being coached deepens your belief in coaching in a way nothing else can How having a coach helps you stay on the path when the work - and the business - gets hard At its heart, this episode is about commitment: to coaching, to your own development, and to the long game of building a practice that can sustain you. If you’re serious about coaching as a livelihood - and as a way of contributing to the world - this conversation offers a grounded, human reflection on why investing in yourself may be the most important move you make. For the transcript of the episode and loads of links, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/6-reasons-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-thing-for-you-to-do-if-you-want-a-successful-coaching-business If you like this episode, you’ll love Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack The writing section of The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing My interview on the Coach Write Podcast: https://coachwrite.co.uk/robbie-swale-the-12-minute-method-series/ The full transcript of the episode, including lots more links: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/6-reasons-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-thing-for-you-to-do-if-you-want-a-successful-coaching-business

What do you do in the moments - or seasons - when your coaching business feels too hard? In this episode, Ruth Saville, Alex Whitton, and Robbie Swale explore the emotional reality behind building a coaching business: the doubt, comparison, financial pressure, cancellations, unpredictability… and the unexpected beauty that sits alongside all of it. This episode began with a simple observation: every coach goes through periods when the business feels heavy. From there, the three of us look at what helps, what doesn’t, and what it means to keep going in a work we care deeply about. Together we talk about: The many moments that make coaching feel hard - and why they surprise us every time Comparison, LinkedIn spirals, and the relief of remembering other coaches struggle too Cancellations, no-shows, reschedules - and how to respond without collapsing inside The very personal nature of coaching, and how easily confidence gets entangled with identity Why ‘you have everything you need’ is easier to say to clients than to ourselves How to navigate hard seasons with more steadiness, self-respect and perspective What we each reach for when we hit the ‘break glass’ moment Why the challenging parts of the journey are often where the growth is This is an episode for coaches at every stage - whether you’re right in the middle of a difficult moment now, or you want to feel more resourced the next time you hit a wobble. As always, we hope it helps you feel less alone and more grounded in your own path as a coach. Oh, and if you like this, there’s a Part II coming in the new year. Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. For more information about Ruth, visit https://www.ruthsaville.co.uk/ For more information about Alex , visit http://www.exploregrowbe.com/ For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN Free Ebook: An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Get to know Ruth better: Robbie’s interview with Ruth on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-66-ruth-saville-how-to-be-a-rebel-misbehave-more-and-set-your-sights-on-being-a-master-coach Get to know Alex better: Robbie’s interview with Alex on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-64-alex-whitton-balancing-the-being-and-the-doing Robbie’s Subject–Object Move Blog https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2025/4/25/the-subject-object-move-how-we-grow Alex’s blog post on the impact of how we see difficulty - https://www.exploregrowbe.com/blog/what-is-the-impact-of-when-and-how-we-see-difficulty Alex’s blog post on what feelings of inadequacy may be telling us - https://www.exploregrowbe.com/blog/what-can-inadequacy-tell-usnbsp The article Robbie wrote when someone cancelled on him - How I Became a Full-Time Coach Less Than Two Years After Starting My Training: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training The same article as a podcast episode: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/100-how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack Jordan Peterson’s book 12 Rules For Life, and a blog Robbie wrote about it: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/4/8/failure-is-relative-and-heres-how-to-deal-with-that Robbie’s blog: No One Can Compete With You at Being You: https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2024/9/22/authentic-personal-branding-no-one-can-compete-with-you-at-being-you Robbie’s new book, The Power to Choose: Finding Calm and Connection in a Complex World: https://geni.us/powertochoose The video series Robbie mentioned on Mastering Your Personal Brand: https://www.robbieswale.com/mastering-your-personal-brand Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching James Clear – Atomic Habits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Habits Phil Bolton on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders The Coach’s Journey Intensive is part of The Coach’s Journey Community – learn more here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community Julie Starr on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-58-julie-starr-the-world-works-from-the-inside-out TCJ Short: Jennifer Garvey Berger on Comparison: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/93-how-comparison-sets-us-up-to-feel-awful-about-ourselves-tcj-short-with-jennifer-garvey-berger The Coach’s Journey Podcast episode #99, where Joey stumps Robbie with his own question: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/99-robbie-swale-the-secrets-of-meaningful-productivity-honourable-leadership-and-tilting-the-world-towards-heaven Joey Owen on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-59-joey-owen-you-never-know-when-the-value-of-a-coaching-session-ends Sydney Banks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Principles_Psychology The 3 Principles feature in this episode with Jamie Smart on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-16-jamie-smart Polyvagal Theory: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/9/2/are-you-above-or-below-the-line Robbie’s article about creating a steady stream of clients https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/the-step-by-step-guide-to-finding-coaching-clients-without-feeling-icky Joseph Cambell’s Hero’s Journey: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/17/the-heros-journey-of-growth Patrick Quinton Smith on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/107-patrick-quinton-smith-clarity-is-revealed-in-momentum-so-build-momentum-and-clarity-will-come

In this special episode, Alex Whitton and Alex Swallow take the reins to interview Robbie about the release of his new book, The Power to Choose: Finding Calm and Connection in a Complex World. What unfolds is a warm, honest and surprisingly vulnerable exploration of choice, mindset, relationships, and the inner work that helps us meet complexity with more skill and less fear. Across the conversation, Robbie shares the nine-year journey behind the book - from a powerful coaching question asked by Joel Monk in 2016 through to the resistance, the rewrites, and the emotional cost of releasing something deeply personal into the world. Together, the three of them explore themes at the heart of both the book and coaching itself. In this episode they explore: Why in almost every moment, there’s more choice available than we think. The idea of the Higher Self - and why we all have moments where we forget it. How curiosity becomes an antidote to reactivity and contraction. What really happens when we assume others are doing their best. Why connection and calm matter so much in a complex world. How writing a book becomes its own developmental journey. The castle metaphor for working with shadow parts of ourselves. The stories that shape us - and the ones we get to rewrite. Why none of this work is ever really finished. Robbie also shares two stories that bring these ideas to life in very human ways: a tense exchange with a neighbour, and a moment on a crowded train that turned into a masterclass in choosing calm rather than escalating conflict. This episode is thoughtful, grounded and full of practical wisdom - for coaches, and for anyone navigating the complexity of modern life. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ To buy The Power to Choose, visit http://geni.us/powertochoose For more information about Alex Whitton, visit http://www.exploregrowbe.com/ For more information about Alex Swallow, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexswallow/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Get Robbie’s ebook for coaches, An Introduction to The Coach’s Journey Flywheel at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The Power to Choose: Finding Calm and Connection in a Complex World http://geni.us/powertochoose Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Gay Hendricks’ idea, The Zone of Genius https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/2/3/the-zone-of-genius-the-most-powerful-thought-experiment-for-personal-transformation Robbie interviewing Alex Swallow on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-62-alex-swallow-life-is-better-when-we-choose Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach’s Journey Podcasthttps://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both Philip Crocker on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/88-philip-crocker-coaching-is-the-most-natural-thing-in-the-world Minor Arias on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56 Robbie on Neil Mackinnon’s podcast, Creative Practice https://creative-practice.net/2021/01/29/robbie-swale-coach/ Rising Strong — Brené Brown (referenced re: “everyone is doing their best”) https://brenebrown.com/book/rising-strong/ Man’s Search for Meaning — Viktor Frankl https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/1033737/man-s-search-for-meaning Useful Not True — Derek Sivers (idea referenced about beliefs & utility) https://sive.rs/useful Robbie’s article about Harry Kane https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/15/sometimes-it-doesnt-matter-if-what-you-believe-is-true-it-matters-whether-it-is-useful Meaningful Productivity Blueprint (Robbie’s framework mentioned in the conversation) https://www.robbieswale.com/meaningful-productivity An Introduction to The Coach’s Journey Flywheel https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel “It’s Not About the Chicken” — Fred Kofman story referenced in the episodehttps://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2023/2/3/its-not-about-the-chicken-harry-its-about-the-last-20-years The early Choose Your Own Adventure reference https://www.cyoa.com/ David Gemmell (author referenced) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gemmell How to Start When You’re Stuck (12-Minute Method Book 1) https://geni.us/startwhenyourestuck

What can coaches and leaders learn from the people who have mastered the art of appearing on stage and screen? And what can coaching give back to the creative industries? Answering these questions through his work at the intersection of coaching, corporate leadership and on-screen presentation skills is Gareth Davies, renowned executive television producer of shows like Strictly Come Dancing and Top of the Pops, who is now one of the industry’s leading presenter coaches. Gareth co-founded The Presenter Studio with fellow executive producer Leon Campbell in 2013, and since then the company has honed and nurtured talent at every level of the TV and film industry, working with the likes of Hugh Grant and Madonna, all the way through to aspiring actors and presenters just starting their careers. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Gareth shares insights from a glamorous world that he believes has everything to gain from a coaching approach, and he reflects on what it takes to help people embody their authentic selves and communicate to audiences of all sizes. With media skills being something every business needs in an era dominated by screens, Gareth works with corporate businesses to help them find their voice, and he can still be found practising what he preaches in his ongoing work as a presenter and public speaker. Gareth and episode host Alex Swallow also talk about: How to identify the aspects of your personality that reflect who you are in a relatable, interesting way The concept of hustle and the benefits of going the long way round How to leverage the power of Instagram to build your audience and grow your business Presentation skills, tips and approaches that can help you communicate with authenticity and impact Gareth reveals the huge gaps that exist in creative industries, highlighting the opportunities there are for coaches to help nurture skills and develop talent. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: -  The MOE Foundation coaching programme https://moefoundation.com/certified-coach-training-course/ - The Presenter Studio http://www.presenterstudio.com/ - The Presenter Studio on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thepresenterstudio - Gareth’s LinkedIn page https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethdavies2408/ - Gareth’s business partner, Leon Campbell https://www.linkedin.com/in/leon-campbell-58bb583/

Sam Isaacson saw the rise of artificial intelligence coming, and he was ready for it. With his background in managing technology risk and change, he could see the impact that rapid AI development would have on his current profession as a coach, and in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast he addresses some of the most pressing issues facing coaches all over the world. Very few people are as well placed as Sam to speak about the threats and the benefits AI holds for human coaches. After all, he has developed his own AI coaching product, AICoach.chat, which provides its clients with a “distraction-free space for thinking, challenging and reframing, not reacting”. In conversation with episode host Neil Mackinnon, Sam addresses questions of ethics, efficacy and economy that have been brought to bear on the coaching industry by the rise of products like his. The coach, author and founder of The Coachtech Collective offers his perspective on the qualitative difference between being coached by a human and an AI, and the crucial question of what role relationship plays in successful coaching engagements. Sam, who was the first person to ever coach people in virtual reality, describes this and many other remarkable achievements in vivid detail, painting a picture of the limitless possibilities held by emergent technologies. Sam and Neil also talk about: The AI-enabled coaching products and facilities that are available now The work Sam has done to align the world of coaching with the world of apprenticeships The pros and cons of content creation as a coach The coaching conferences Sam recommends (including his own!) In this deep-dive into cutting edge coaching technology, Sam picks out the products that can be of most benefit to your coaching practice right now, and explains the transformative impact they can have. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Transforming Coaching with AI and Technology with Sam Isaacson – Delenta podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa3q3KqXzhc - Myers Briggs https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/myers-briggs-overview/  - Sam Isaacson – Coach, author, founder of The Coachtech Collective https://isaacson.uk/ - The Coachtech Collective – community exploring coaching + tech https://isaacson.uk/buy/the-coachtech-collective/ - EMCC – European Mentoring and Coaching Council https://www.emccglobal.org/ - ILM – Institute of Leadership & Management https://www.institutelm.com/ - Apprenticeship Trailblazer (UK coaching apprenticeship framework) https://www.instituteforapprenticeships.org/ - Patrick Lencioni – The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, founder of The Table Group https://www.tablegroup.com/ - Challenging Coaching by Blakey & Day https://www.amazon.co.uk/Challenging-Coaching-Transforming-Performance-Organisations/dp/1857885753 - “High Support, High Challenge” https://www.maier.co.uk/insights/high_support_high_challenge/ - Toku McCree – Coach, author of “Love on the End of a Sword” https://coachingmba.co/about/ - John Whitmore – Coaching for Performance, GROW modelhttps://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Nancy Kline – Time to Think model https://www.timetothink.com/ - Nicholas Janni – Leader as Healer https://www.nicholasjanni.com/book-leader-as-healer/ - Video session by Nicholas Janni (theme: presence-based coaching) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuXDCUcDsu4 - WBX / Coaching.com Summit – Global coaching & leadership summit https://www.coaching.com/summit/ - Coaching.com – Coaching management platform https://www.coaching.com/ - Alex Pascal – Founder of Coaching.com (in memoriam) https://www.coaching.com/about/ - Coach Is Rising – Coaching organisation & training platform https://www.coachisrising.com/ - Digital & AI Coaches’ Conference (founded by Sam Isaacson) https://isaacson.uk/digital-and-ai-coaches-conference/ - Jonathan Passmore – Coaching psychologist, author, academic https://www.henley.ac.uk/people/dr-jonathan-passmore - Sandra Diller – Editor / academic in coaching and leadership (co-editor with Passmore & Isaacson) (No central site; academic publications: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8793-1946) - Max Blumberg / Max Brantle (likely Max Blumberg, co-editor of coaching texts) https://www.maxblumberg.com/ - Joel Monk – Host of Coaches Rising podcast (sometimes written as Munch in transcripts) https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/ - Robbie Swale – Coach & author (How to Start When You’re Stuck) https://robbieswale.com/ - The World Humanoid Robot Games https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cvg3mv3rz60o - AICoach.chat – Sam’s AI coaching product https://www.aicoach.chat/ - Make.com https://www.make.com/en - The CoachTech Collective http://coachtech.uk/ BIOGRAPHY FROM SAM Sam Isaacson is a coaching thought leader and consultant whose work leans into technology as an enabler for revolutionising coaching strategies and approaches. He has been writing about cutting-edge technologies, including AI, blockchain and the metaverse, for many years and now works with organisations and coaches around the world on their use of technology. Sam's books include several on the impact of technology on the coaching profession, and others on the use of coaching as a strategic tool within organisations. He has regularly contributed to Choice magazine and Coaching at Work, and frequently speaks at respected coaching conferences. Sam lives in West London in the UK, in a home made noisy by his four sons. In his spare time he is deeply involved in the world of tabletop miniature wargaming, where he co-hosts a podcast.

What does the future of coaching look like… and what can we learn from those who helped build it? Ruth Rochelle returns to The Coach’s Journey Podcast to reflect on how the coaching world has evolved over the past four decades and where it might be heading next. Prompted by a listener’s question, Ruth shares stories from the early days of coaching - when it was more movement than industry - through the professionalisation of the 1990s to today’s fast-changing, tech-enabled landscape. Alongside the history, she offers her vision for what’s emerging now: deeper work, greater humanity, and a renewed sense of trust. Ruth and Joey explore how coaching has shifted from performance to presence, from achievement to wholeness, and from certainty to curiosity. They discuss scepticism in the early days (and now), the rise of coaching bodies such as the ICF and EMCC, the impact of technology and AI, and why compassion and simplicity remain at the heart of great coaching. In this episode, Ruth talks about: Why the earliest coaching approaches focused on the inner game and self-belief How the field grew from informal practice to global profession The evolution from performance and achievement to whole-person coaching Why trust, compassion, and presence still matter most for coaches today Ruth also invites every coach to listen inwardly and lead the way forward for the profession. If you’ve ever wondered how the coaching profession began - or where it’s going next - this conversation offers wisdom, warmth, and hope for coaches building meaningful, sustainable practices in a fast-changing world. For more information about Ruth, visit https://www.ruthrochelle.com/ For more information about host Joey Owen, visit http://www.joeyowencoaching.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: FREE Ebook: An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/thecoachingbusinessflywheel Ruth Rochelle on The Coach’s Journey Podcast (previous episode) https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/78-ruth-rochelle-insight-seminars-systems-theory-and-the-path-to-our-current-truth International Coaching Federation (ICF) https://coachingfederation.org/ European Mentoring and Coaching Council (EMCC) https://www.emccglobal.org/ Tim Gallwey – The Inner Game of Tennis https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inner-Game-Tennis-Classic-Performance/dp/1447288505 Robert Kegan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan Suzanne Cook-Greuter https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanne-cook-greuter-60056322b/ Bill Torbert https://gla.global/team_member/professor-bill-torbert/ For more on Adult Development on The Coach’s Journey, see our interview with Jennifer Garvey Berger https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both Sir John Whitmore – Coaching for Performance https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coaching-Performance-Principles-Personal-Professional/dp/1473658128 The Coach’s Journey Podcast with Ruth Rochelle and Joey (video version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kby9-D_5JwA BIOGRAPHY FROM RUTH For more than 25 years Ruth has been a coach – an executive and team coach, workshop facilitator, transformational coach and coach supervisor – with private clients and with organisations. Ruth is an Accredited Master Executive Coach with APECS, an IFS (Internal Family Systems) Practitioner with the IFS Institute and a Coaching Constellations Practitioner, and her clients have included creative professionals, start-up founders, senior managers, young emerging leaders, celebrities, coaches, and many more. Ruth supports her clients to create and achieve their visions, enrich their relationships, navigate changing circumstances, embark on new life directions, start and grow businesses, address specific challenges, experience greater wellbeing and connect to a meaningful purpose.

What if almost every coaching challenge you face in your practice could be solved with better coaching contracts and clearer agreements? That’s what Robbie dives into in this short episode. Drawing on his own coaching practice, experiences in supervision, and lessons learned from mentors and peers, Robbie explains why contracting with clients is one of the most important skills a coach can develop… and how better contracting could have solved almost every challenge he’s ever brought to supervision. He shares how he builds contracting into every part of his work: from the very first client conversation, through re-contracting midway, to closing an engagement with clarity. Robbie explores the written coaching agreements he uses, the questions he asks clients, how he contracts with stakeholders while keeping confidentiality intact, and why he has stopped sending written coaching notes. Along the way, he also reflects on ICF ethics, the role of supervision, and what really matters for coaches who want to build a meaningful, sustainable business. In this episode, Robbie talks about: Why most coaching challenges come back to contracting and agreements The questions he asks to set up effective coaching contracts How he re-contracts with coaching clients partway through an engagement The importance of private goals when coaching within organisations Why he stopped sending coaching session notes and what he does instead How ethics, supervision, and simplicity shape his coaching practice If you’ve ever wondered how to contract in a way that supports your clients, strengthens your coaching practice, and makes your work more impactful, this episode offers plenty to take away. Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. Buy The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack - including all the emails Robbie sends to his clients at every stage of his business, plus a flowchart, coaching agreements and his favourite emails for creating clients. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS ROBBIE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robbie’s article about starting coaching sessions well: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/how-to-start-your-coaching-sessions-so-they-practically-run-themselves The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack Robbie’s Meaningful Productivity workshops: https://www.robbieswale.com/meaningful-productivity-workshop-series The video version of this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhjuhKWx9iA Episode #8, containing this and lots more nuts and bolts of coaching: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-structure-first-conversations-marketing-price Simon Feldman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonfeldman/ Robbie’s video with ways of talking about coaching: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/106-how-to-lead-a-powerful-first-conversation-with-a-potential-coaching-client Robbie’s video about endings and reflecting on coaching: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/91-how-to-create-a-powerful-ending-to-a-coaching-engagement Miles Downey – Effective Modern Coaching - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Effective-Modern-Coaching-Developing-Professionals/dp/1441186102 Robbie’s conversation with Miles Downey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/ep-14-myles-downey BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/ 64 Million Artists https://64millionartists.com/ The ideas of Zone of Genius and Zone of Excellence: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/2/3/the-zone-of-genius-the-most-powerful-thought-experiment-for-personal-transformation Mike Toller on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller International Coaching Federation (ICF) Code of Ethics https://coachingfederation.org/ethics Free Ethics Training from the ICF https://learning.coachingfederation.org/products/ethics-training

Ever since she was a child, working in her father’s clothes shop in Derbyshire and standing on a box to see over the counter, Jenny Bird has spent her life being interested in people. She drew upon the principles of communication honed during those formative years as she blossomed into one of the United Kingdom’s very first master coaches, going on to co-author renowned coaching titles such as The Art of Coaching: A Handbook of Tips and Tools, and How to Work with People... and Enjoy It! In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Jenny describes the experience of leaving community education and training to be a coach at the turn of the century, when stacks of materials were posted across the Atlantic and she joined conference calls with coach trainers located all over the world. Throughout her training and her early forays into coaching at global corporations and in the NHS, Jenny surveyed the landscape of personal and development for those who do things differently, describing her “joy for sparkly new things”. By consistently forging relationships with innovators and brilliant thinkers throughout the field, Jenny has enriched her career. She shares invaluable wisdom accumulated across her career through her books and in her role as co-founder of Coach Continuum, which provides CPD, networking and supervision to help coaches flourish. Jenny and host Joey Owen also talk about: • The benefits of being a risk taker • How to barter your way to getting what you want • Partnering generously and being paid what you are worth • How to tend to your LinkedIn garden • Bringing poetry and creativity into coaching to cut through to the emotion Jenny also shares some invaluable advice to new coaches, outlining the mindset, behaviours and conditions that form the essential foundations of a successful business. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Ruchi Shah-Mehta https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruchi-coach/ - Coach Continuum https://coachcontinuum.com/ - CoachU https://www.coachu.com/home/ - Thomas Leonard, The Portable Coach https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=L0IVLyDUQ14C&printsec=copyright&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false - EMCC https://www.emccglobal.org/accreditation/ - ICF https://coachingfederation.org/ - The Clean Sweep Questionnaire https://www.lifecoach.com/free-quizzes/clean-sweep-quiz/ - Common factors theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_factors_theory - AoEC https://www.aoec.com/ - Sarah Gornall https://peopleuntapped.com/ourglobalteam/sarah-gornall/ - The Art of Coaching https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9OuPCgAAQBAJ&printsec=copyright&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false - Coaching Development https://www.coachingdevelopment.com/ - Business Network International https://www.bni.com/ - Quotes from golfer Gary Player https://www.yourgolftravel.com/19th-hole/gary-player-quotes-from-the-black-knight/ - Animas https://www.animascoaching.com/ - Erik de Haan http://www.erikdehaan.com/

Shruti Sonthalia says purpose is her superpower. A strong sense of purpose helped Shruti to demolish seemingly insurmountable barriers to becoming a Master Certified Coach and a globally renowned industry figure, and in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, she implores all coaches to find their ‘why’. Shruti began her journey without coaches around her to learn from, living and working in a culture that assumed expertise was the preserve of men with white hair. Believing it was her purpose to create sacred spaces in the workplace, Shruti grafted with steadfast resolve to defy the gatekeepers and doubters who stood in her way. By taking the path less travelled and proving herself time and again, Shruti developed a work ethic that took her to the top of her profession, empowering leaders across global markets to embody a coaching mindset. She pays forward her expertise in the training curricula she devises and delivers to the next generation of coaches, founding her structured, evidence-based approach on the values and principles she speaks about in this episode. In this conversation, Shruti invites us all to ask: which parts of our journeys do we struggle to own? And how might addressing them enable changes within us that ripple out to the ecosystems we operate within? Shruti and host Neil Mackinnon also talk about: - Whether coaching has the same effectiveness in different areas, geographies, and realities - Accessibility of supervision as a vital aspect of coaching’s growth and integrity - The learning we can take from our own procrastination - How a coaching mindset can help us embody shared power - The principle that says that which you focus on expands, and how to harness it THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - AoEC - Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/ - ICF - International Coaching Federation https://coachingfederation.org/ - ICF Foundation https://foundationoficf.org/ - Shruti's paper on effectiveness of coaching in emerging markets https://radar.brookes.ac.uk/radar/file/08d2850c-51fe-42ab-aeea-e7ec829bc5a9/1/IJEBCM%2022_1_10.pdf - London School of Economics https://www.lse.ac.uk/ - Yannick Jacob on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/97-yannick-jacob-going-beyond-blueprints-to-challenge-the-status-quo-of-coaching - Richard Layard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Layard,_Baron_Layard - Viktor Frankl, Man’s Search for Meaning https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4069.Man_s_Search_for_Meaning - Martin Seligman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Seligman - David Foster Wallace, This Is Water https://fs.blog/david-foster-wallace-this-is-water/ - Theory U by Otto Sharma https://www.amazon.co.uk/Theory-Learning-Emerges-Futures-Business/dp/1576757633 - Robbie Swale’s writing on resistance https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2025/3/28/the-more-resistance-we-feel-towards-a-call-or-action-the-more-important-that-call-or-action-is-to-our-souls-evolution - The War of Art by Steven Pressfield https://www.amazon.co.uk/War-Art-Through-Creative-Battles/dp/1936891026 - IFS, parts work, what’s in the way is the way https://matthewharwood.uk/ifs/ - RUHCO https://ruhco.org/

A commitment to “directional correctness” has helped Patrick Quinton-Smith solve existential questions on the way to becoming the co-founder of a multigenerational coaching consultancy, Gen Z Coach. In his fast-paced career, Patrick has overcome huge challenges by remaining true to his philosophy of maintaining a steady direction – even when sidewinds threaten to blow him off course. When rapid success in the energy sector failed to bring Patrick fulfilment he took a bold step towards coaching, giving up one day per week to build his business. Just three years on, he works full time at the head of a consultancy that coaches young people while helping businesses to lead multigenerational teams more effectively. Patrick speaks about the importance of the power of a clear and deep purpose and mission. He also explains the role of breathwork and emotional awareness in becoming a skilled navigator along his particular journey, which has taught him valuable lessons about the roots of his self-worth and the nature of what drives him forward. This episode offers a refreshingly frank account of just how hard it can be to overcome fear, doubt, adversity and the deeply personal challenges that we all face as we seek to grow and live in accordance with our values. Patrick and host Alex Whitton also talk about: • The number of times you might have to receive a “no” before achieving your goals • The benefits of having a niche, and how to let your niche find you • How to weather the storm of lean spells and hold onto the bigger picture while building a business • What we can learn from the challenges that scare us • The relationship between adventure and growth THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - General Assembly – Seven Career Coaching https://sevencareercoaching.co.uk/career-and-life-coaching-blog/seven-x-general-assembly-future-proof-your-career-in-2019-beyond - Bulb Energy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulb_Energy - Derek Appau - http://linkedin.com/in/dereka/?originalSubdomain=uk - Mindset by Carol Dweck https://fs.blog/carol-dweck-mindset/ - Coaching for Business course, City University https://www.citystgeorges.ac.uk/prospective-students/courses/short-courses/coaching-for-business - International Coaching Federation https://coachingfederation.org/ - Gillian McMichael, Full Circle Global https://fullcircleglobal.com/ - Joel Burgess https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachjoelburgess/?originalSubdomain=uk - 16 'no's video/post https://www.linkedin.com/posts/maya-raichoora_getting-nos-and-rejections-used-to-crush-activity-7351498362937901057-teIC/ - Diary of a CEO, “roll the dice” https://www.tiktok.com/@steven/video/7504384000891391254 - The Coaching business flywheel - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

In this episode, Robbie walks you step‑by‑step through how he leads the first conversation with a potential coaching client - with authenticity, honour and integrity, and without being salesy or pushy. Packed with clear guidance and real‑world examples, you'll learn how to: Prepare clients in advance and set expectations before the call Model leadership in the first conversation to build credibility and trust Guide the conversation through contracting, coaching, and honesty Lead naturally toward a decision: no pressure, just clarity about what comes next If you’re tired of ‘discovery calls’ or ‘coffees’ that feel awkward or wind down without clarity… this episode is for you. Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. Buy The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack - including all the emails Robbie sends to his clients at every stage of his business, plus a flowchart, coaching agreements and his favourite emails for creating clients. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS ROBBIE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack The video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/ub_gFNZ8bsY Episode #8, containing this and lots more nuts and bolts of coaching: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-structure-first-conversations-marketing-price My video about contracting as a coach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhjuhKWx9iA Phil Bolton on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders Rich Litvin: How To Coach Someone You Don't Yet Know - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1mBCDWOX-I Jamie Smart on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-16-jamie-smart Giovanna Capozza on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza Rich Litvin: The Art of the Proposal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjwzfLIA8w0

What does it really look like to take your coaching practice on the road? In this short episode, Robbie and Alex Swallow get together to explore the possibilities and challenges of coaching as a digital nomad — or simply working remotely and flexibly as a coach. They talk about their experience working from Costa Rica, Dar es Salaam, cafés in the UK, and the practical and emotional realities of taking coaching work on the move. This conversation is filled with candid reflections, personal stories, and valuable tips for coaches curious about location-independent work. Together, Robbie and Alex discuss: What it’s really like to coach while travelling The difference between remote work and being on holiday The impact of environment on coaching conversations Energy management, internet mishaps, and time zone headaches Why solo digital nomad life might not be as dreamy as it sounds The power of experiments — like working from a different UK city — to test what works How being in new places can boost creativity and reflection If you're a coach who’s ever dreamed of working remotely, coaching from anywhere, or building a location-independent coaching business, this episode offers encouragement, perspective, and a few gentle warnings… Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ For more information about Alex, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexswallow/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

James Bianco is a leadership and career coach and the founder of 16 Degrees Coaching. He spent 11 years working for the UK Department for International Development, working with ministers and introducing the Lean Start-Up methodology across DFID’s development programmes. Then, a desire to really see the positive impact of his work led him to discover coaching. He hasn’t looked back, clocking up over 2,000 hours of coaching in the first four years of his practice, including running career change webinars for thousands of people. In this episode, we talk about: - How learning the craft of coaching works and how ‘trying hard’ to become a great coach in fact is not the way to become a great coach. - The power of the stories we have about our success: how the simple story he had about successful coaches – that they work only on recommendation – at first empowered him to create a thriving business… and then made him doubt himself. - What he learnt from running coaching calls for over 100 people at a time for career-change experts Careershifters. - Networking: how James used his network to create opportunities, recommendations and referrals, and the importance of dispelling the myths we have about our networks. And listen out for the beautiful - and surprising - answer James gives when I ask him how he filled all the time he had when he left his civil service role to coach full time. www.thecoachsjourney.com For more information about James, visit his website: https://www.16degreescoaching.co.uk/ or find him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-bianco/ For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): ~10: The Grameen Bank: http://www.grameen.com/introduction/ ~10: Overseas Development Institute Fellowship Programme: https://www.odi.org/odi-fellowship-scheme ~13: Marianne Craig: https://www.coachlifeandcareer.com/ ~18: Phil Bolton – Read about Phil here: http://phil-bolton.com/ or get to know him by listening to my interview with him in Episode #2: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders ~18: The Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk/ ~22: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer ~32: International Coach Federation (ICF) Competencies: https://coachfederation.org/core-competencies ~38: Oxford Brooks Certification as a Skills and Performance Coach: https://www.brookes.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate/coaching-and-mentoring-practice/ ~67: Jennifer Garvey Berger: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-garvey-berger-7b4a264 and her book: Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unlocking-Leadership-Mindtraps-Thrive-Complexity/dp/1503609014 ~72: Omidyar Network: https://www.omidyar.com/ ~72: Luminate: https://www.omidyargroup.com/pov/organizations/luminate/ ~74: Careershifters: http://www.careershifters.org/ ~75: The Careershifters articles Robbie most regularly shares with clients: https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/the-lean-career-change-how-to-reduce-the-risk-and-increase-the-speed-of-your-shift and https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/struggling-to-find-your-ideal-work-why-looking-for-your-career-umbrella-will-get-you ~96: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/ ~104: OCHA: https://www.unocha.org/ ~104: Social Tech Trust: https://socialtechtrust.org/

Catriona Horey is an executive coach based in London and a lead trainer, supervisor and assessor of coaching for the MOE Foundation. She spent the first ten years of her career transforming the performance of nonprofits, social enterprises and leaders in social innovation, but in 2013 a bereavement and a collapsed lung led to her reassessing her priorities, with the message ‘I’m too far away from the joy’ appearing in her mind. That set her off on her journey into coaching, leading to a thriving business today working with leaders in social innovation, high potential professionals and women who want to redefine their priorities. In this episode, we talk about: - How becoming a mother has been fundamental in the way she has developed her business and how it is possible to have it all, but over a lifetime. - The question her coach asked her which made her look at her whole career plan completely differently. - Marketing: why you should choose the marketing strategy that works for YOU, and the marketing distinction that made the difference for Catriona. - What Catriona did to generate 11 clients when her first batch of practice clients wrapped up. - The way Catriona thinks and talks about her purpose in life. Over the course of this podcast, Catriona and I hit SO MANY of the common questions and challenges coaches face, including money, the question of niche, coaching on the phone, networking, connecting and more. And in case we had missed any, make sure to listen to the end for Catriona’s five brilliant tips to shortcut to coaching success! www.thecoachsjourney.com For more information about Catriona, find her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/catrionahorey or visit her (minimalist) website, which has been ‘coming soon’ ever since I met her, at https://www.withcatriona.com/ For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): ~2 mins – Future Leaders Trust, now rebranded as Ambition School Leadership: https://www.ambition.org.uk/ ~4 - Andrea Berkeley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-berkeley-4056673/ ~15 – Camilla Mendoza: https://camillamendoza.com/ ~22 –Simon Hampel: https://leadersquest.org/people/simon-hampel ~23 – MOE Foundation: https://moefoundation.com/ ~25 – Culture at Work: http://www.coachingcultureatwork.com/ and Carol Wilson: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/coachingcultureatwork ~27 – Natalie Scholey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-scholey/ ~28 – Tony Phillips: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/tonyjphillips ~32 – Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/ ~33 – Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/ ~33 – CTI + their certification programme: https://coactive.com/ ~37 - Nicole Berg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolejberg/ and Coaching at Work: https://www.coaching-at-work.com/ ~42 – International Coaching Federation (ICF): https://coachfederation.org/ and their credentials, ACC and PCC: https://coachfederation.org/icf-credential ~44 – Anna Lundberg: https://annaselundberg.com/ ~45- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/ ~48 - My LinkedIn Articles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ and the first post I wrote as part of the ’12 minute’/train practice I designed with my coach: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-1-stories-robbie-swale/ ~64 – Catriona’s LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catrionahorey ~66 – Climate Change Coaches and their Coaching Circle: https://www.climatechangecoaches.com/startyourjourney ~69 – The Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust, Slimbridge: https://www.wwt.org.uk/wetland-centres/slimbridge ~70 – Ramsar Treaty: https://www.ramsar.org/ ~93 – Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/ ~95 – Darren Robson: https://www.darrenrobson.com/ ~96 – Ben Dooley: http://bedo.org/ ~99 – Catriona’s List of Training: Masterful Coaching Mentor Group - Ben Dooley MCC - Completed 2018; Narrative Coach Enhanced Practitioner - WBECS (Dr David Drake) - Qualified 2018; Certified Professional Co-Active Coach (CPCC) - The Coaches Training Institute - Qualified 2015; Associate Certified Coach (ACC) and Member - International Coach Federation - Qualified 2015; Licensed Firework Career Coach - The Firework Coaching Company - Qualified 2015; Organisation & Relationship Systems at Work - CRR Global - Completed 2015; Core Skills Coaching Programme (Education Sector) - Growth Coaching International - Completed 2015; Coaching and the Enneagram - Success Intelligence (Robert Holden) - Completed 2014; MOE Professional Certified Coach - The MOE Foundation - Qualified 2014 ~102 – Ann Farrell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annfarrell1/ ~109 – WBECS: https://www.wbecs.com/, London Coaching Group: https://www.londoncoachinggroup.co.uk/ ~110 – Hub Dot: https://hubdot.com/

Minor Arias is a Costa Rican coach and entrepreneur and the author of two forthcoming books: VIVE por DISEÑO (LIVING by DESIGN) and Ya soy Coach, ¿y ahora qué? (I’m a coach, now what?). After 17 years working, managing and leading in multinational corporations, Minor became the first Hewlett Packard employee to receive coaching training in Costa Rica and set off on a journey into the world of coaching. It wasn’t all plain sailing, though: at the end of his first year as an entrepreneur he had made less than he would have in a month at Hewlett Packard and was on the edge of bankruptcy. Then a chance encounter via Toastmasters set him off on a journey to the thriving coaching business he runs today. In this episode, we talk about: - How Minor didn’t find coaching, coaching found him. - Why he chose to focus his work around coaching and not two other things he loves: speaking and training. - The simple calendar tool that his first coach taught him which led to turning his failing coaching practice around. - The origins of his new company, Vive Por Diseno (Living By Design). - What Minor has learned from founding that company: three key ideas for designing your own life. Plus, listen out for my incredibly shaky Spanish and Minor’s beautiful English and wonderful accent.   For more information about Minor, visit www.lideresdeterminados.com  or find him on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/minorarias/ For full show notes, an extended biography of Minor and more about the podcast’s host, Robbie Swale, The Coach’s Journey podcast as a whole and The Coach’s Journey group programme, visit www.thecoachsjourney.com. For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg   Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): ~22 - John Maxwell Team and Certification: https://johnmaxwellteam.com ~24 – The 360 Degree Leader by John Maxwell ~28 – Toastmasters: https://www.toastmasters.org/  ~45 – Toastmasters Costa Rica: https://www.toastmasters.org/Find-a-Club/05159852-toastmasters-costa-rica ~51 – Jason Leonard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%E2%98%85jason-leon-l-i-o-n-9k-followers-%E2%98%85-33594a32 ~60 – The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler ~60 – The other podcast guest I mentioned, who read the Prosperous Coach and was relieved to find she was already doing it, was Katie Harvey. Listen to the full interview with Katie here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

Phil Bolton is an International Coaching Federation Accredited Master Coach. After training as a forensic accountant and then working as an in-house coach at Deloitte in California, Phil moved back to his native UK and set out to become the go-to career coach in London. Then, after supporting hundreds of clients to take control of their career and find work they love, he started his second coaching business: supporting leaders and organisations that are pushing the boundaries, innovating and aiming to creating a better and more joyful world. Phil was also fundamental in Robbie’s (and many others’) development and learning as a coach through his now ‘resting’ coach training organisation, The Coaching School. Through that experience and others, he carries a wealth of experience in how to create amazing coaching experiences for clients on everything from holding boundaries with clients, to co-creating and partnership, to sales. In this episode, we talk about: - How he transitioned from forensic accountant to the go-to career coach in London, including how he created and developed that niche. - What he learned about how to structure a coaching engagement for someone changing careers from coaching hundreds and hundreds of people going through transition. - Why he left behind a full practice working with career changers to shift to working with MDs, CEOs and owners not just coaching them but supporting them across their businesses. - The ‘hard’ third or fourth coaching session: why his favourite bit of coaching engagements is the moment where clients doubt if the change they want is going to happen. - What Phil has learnt about sales from 13 years of running his businesses. - Why building a business that supports his lifestyle and self-care is fundamentally important to Phil. For more information about Phil, visit www.phil-bolton.com or find Phil on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lessordinaryliving/ For full show notes, an extended biography of Phil and more about the podcast’s host, Robbie Swale, The Coach’s Journey podcast as a whole and The Coach’s Journey group programme, visit www.thecoachsjourney.com For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): IPEC coaching training: https://www.ipeccoaching.com/ Rich Litvin: http://richlitvin.com The Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk

Katie Harvey has been coaching for more than 18 years. In that time, she has racked up more than 14,000 hours of coaching which, she says, is more than any other coach she has met over that time. She was part of the vanguard of coaches in the UK and for more than 12 years has worked to support other coaches: supervising and mentoring coaches and training new coaches through CoachU. In this episode, we talk about: - How she racked up more than 14,000 hours of coaching. - The advantages and disadvantages of being part of the vanguard of coaching. - The question of 'niche' and why Katie calls herself a generalist coach. - What business and pricing model Katie has settled on after 18 years of experimentation. - And how a trying a coaching sales technique on a photographer.... ended up with them getting married! For more information about Katie, email her at katie@katieharveycoaching.co.uk. For full show notes, an extended biography of Katie and more about the podcast’s host, Robbie Swale, The Coach’s Journey podcast as a whole and The Coach’s Journey group programme, visit www.thecoachsjourney.com For information about Robbie’s wider work, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com Music: My Good Man William. Listen to more of their music on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): ~13 minutes: CoachU - http://www.coachinc.com/CoachU/ ~25: Vegard Olsen – https://coachingpartner.net/cp/en/vegard-olsen-2/ ~26: Laura Burkey - https://www.facebook.com/LauraBurkeyCoaching/ ~35: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler - https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/ ~46: Clare Pedrick - https://www.3dcoaching.com/claire-pedrick-mcc/ ~46: Bill Cummings - https://www.theboothbyinstitute.org/ ~70: Robbie’s video about how his coaching fees evolved over time - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BSI5Cb8mU ~80: Katie’s website - http://katieharveycoaching.co.uk/ ~96: Michael Neill - https://www.michaelneill.org/ ~99: Local International Coaching Federation Chapters: https://coachfederation.org/why-icf/chapter-map ~99: Local Association for Coaching events: https://www.associationforcoaching.com/page/EventsOverview

What if the way you sell your coaching is getting in the way of the coaching itself? In this solo episode, Robbie shares how his thinking and practice around selling coaching packages has evolved — from charging by the session, to selling time-bound coaching engagements that prioritise impact, flexibility and real transformation. This candid, behind-the-scenes reflection covers everything from awkward money conversations to powerful client breakthroughs — and invites coaches to rethink how they price and package their work. Drawing from his own business journey, the coaching he’s received, and the coaches he's supported, Robbie lays out a compelling case for selling periods of time, not sessions. Whether you’re new to coaching or looking to grow a more sustainable, generous practice, this episode will help you: Reflect on how your current engagements are serving you — and your clients Explore how time-based engagements can build trust, accountability and transformation Set ambitious goals with clients in ways that feel natural and expansive Avoid the session-counting mindset that can limit both coach and client See how changing the way you package your coaching can change the value clients see in it. Embrace the idea of being a companion on your client’s journey — not just a service provider With honesty and nuance, Robbie invites you to experiment with what works for you — and to create coaching offers that feel both nourishing and powerful. Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS ROBBIE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN The video version of this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzeyK2yvWOI Episode #8, containing this and lots more nuts and bolts of coaching: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-structure-first-conversations-marketing-price Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

Every village and every community throughout human history has relied upon people who can facilitate conversations, allowing sacred truths to be passed along generations. In a modern world gripped by a process of massive transformation, this vital, ancient work now falls to coaches. That is the view of Bob Singha, a master coach who has spent 28 years helping people connect the day-to-day reality of their lives with the eternal teachings of their ancestral heritage. In conversation with Alex Swallow, Bob reflects on his evolution as a coach and as an elder, which he sees as a process of remembering rather than one of learning. Across decades of work with young people around the world, facing lives blighted by trauma and violence, Bob has found that communities everywhere face similar problems, and that the solutions to them lie in the deep wisdom of our ancestral memories. Using stories as medicine and as conveyors of wisdom, Bob helps people to remember something about themselves. In this conversation, Bob and Alex acknowledge the call being sounded for coaches who don’t feel at home in the standard business models that commodify and separate us. They also illustrate the remarkable role coaches can play in connecting communities with the intelligence that gave birth to them. In this episode, Bob and Alex also talk about: • How studying something as if you’re going to teach it leads to accelerated learning • Our connection with the sages, the rishis, the sadhus and fakirs who throughout history have integrated spiritual wisdom and worldly responsibilities • The power of the question: what are the whispers of your ancestors saying in this moment? • The relationship between the way we play games and the way we live our lives • A hilarious story that revealed to Bob at a young age the importance of language, and how we can use it to speak to both the temporary and the eternal. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Timothy Gallwey https://theinnergame.com/ - John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/about-us/sir-john-whitmore/ - Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ - Stephen Covey on interdependence https://challengingcoaching.co.uk/stephen-covey-interdependence-the-deeper-facts/ - Spark Inside https://www.sparkinside.org/ - The Coaching Inn https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/ - It Takes A Village https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llpz6bADkZU - Gladeana McMahon http://gladeanamcmahon.com/ - Anthony Eldridge Rogers https://uk.linkedin.com/in/anthonyeldridgerogers

How do we keep working when tragedy shakes our lives? If seismic events disrupt our foundations, is it possible to build something new with confidence? For Ellie Scarf, suffering a heartbreaking loss led to profound changes that have moved her from her zone of excellence into her zone of genius, where she draws upon her experiences to offer her coaching clients an approach and a service that is uniquely her own. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ellie recounts the steps that took her from working as a lawyer in top tier legal firms to becoming a national sales coach for a billion dollar company. She describes how her coaching work was in the midst of a booming resurgence after the COVID-19 pandemic when tragedy struck. In conversation with host Ruth Saville, Ellie explains how she integrated her profound emotional experiences into a new way of working, turning her pain into a point of connection that deepened her client relationships. Now, alongside the client work that brings her joy every day, she also runs the Corporate To Coach Accelerator, building foundations for people on the runway to launching a business, and supporting coaches who are pivoting to leverage their skills in new ways. She is also CEO of Lucent Global coaching consultancy, which supports leaders and companies through significant periods of transition. She also has her own podcast, The Business of Executive Coaching Podcast, where she is just as inspiring a host as she is a guest in this episode. In this episode, Ellie and Ruth also talk about: • A brilliant strategy to solve the problem of building business development into your schedule • How to meet your clients where they’re at on their particular developmental journey • What happens when non-directive coaching comes into conflict with a knowledge gap • How many coaching programmes selling quick pathways to success prey on people’s fears Ellie also shares one crucial tip for anyone coach who is struggling to bring in business at the moment, offering a tried and tested way to make progress during lean times. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Tony Grant https://www.sydney.edu.au/science/news-and-events/news/2020/02/07/vale-professor-anthony-grant.html - Dr. Suzy Green https://instituteofcoaching.org/suzy-green - Masters course in Coaching Psychology at the University of Sydney https://www.sydney.edu.au/handbooks/science-pg/coursework/psychology-coaching.html#:~:text=The%20Master%20of%20Science%20in,working%20with%20non%2Dclinical%20populations. - The Positivity Institute https://thepositivityinstitute.com.au/ - The Positivity Prescription https://thepositivityinstitute.com.au/product/the-positivity-prescription/ - Dr. Susanne Cook-Greuter https://instituteofcoaching.org/author/cook-greuter-susanne - Robert Kegan’s theory of adult development https://aliveandthriving.substack.com/p/kegans-theory-of-development-framework - Bill Torbert’s development theory https://developingleadership.net/bill-torbert - The GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/resources/the-grow-model - The House of Change model https://www.thevirtualtrainingteam.com/articles/change-management-models-the-change-house/ - Dr. Louise Kovacs https://au.linkedin.com/in/louise-kovacs-9ba55a - Myers Briggs overview https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/myers-briggs-overview/ - Dr. Saba Hasanie https://www.linkedin.com/in/saba-hasanie-dprof-mcc-icf-1747572?originalSubdomain=sg - The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-big-leap-gay-hendricks?variant=32205677625378 - Lucent Global https://www.lucentorg.com/about - Corporate to Coach Accelerator https://www.elliescarf.com/cca - The Coaching Business Flywheel https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel - Ellie’s podcast episode on metrics for coaches https://www.elliescarf.com/podcasts/the-business-of-executive-coaching/episodes/2148566834 - Tim Ferriss’ billboard question https://medium.com/@podclips/the-top-25-answers-to-tim-ferriss-famous-billboard-question-3f19fba1a49c - The upper limit problem https://melodywilding.com/are-you-unconsciously-afraid-of-being-happy-why-we-self-sabotage-with-the-upper-limit-problem/

The question that new coaches ask most often: do I need a niche and how do I choose one? We don’t know why that idea is so pervasive among new coaches, but it is, so when Robbie got a question about it from a subscriber recently, he thought he’d make a short episode about it. Excuse the audio - he recorded on his phone - and see below for links to a few things he mentions in the episode. For more information about Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. HERE ARE LINKS TO SOME OF THE THINGS WE MENTIONED: Katie Harvey (a coach with no niche) on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/thecoachingbusinessflywheel The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

To celebrate the 100th episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Robbie takes us back to where the whole Coach’s Journey adventure began: the story of how he grew his coaching business so it could support him full time, less than two years after he started training as a coach. As you’ll hear him say in the introduction, coming back to this story - which forms the basis of Robbie’s most-read piece of writing about coaching - reminded him how, when it comes to the fundamentals, little has changed in how he thinks about and works on his business. Indeed, much of what you’ll hear Robbie talk about in this episode maps onto The Coaching Business Flywheel, brought to life through the eyes of a new coach, fresh from experiencing the successes, failures, glory and mistakes of the first two years of his business. In particular, Robbie gets into: The principles of invitation and referral as a way to build a coaching business. How to find shortcuts to the client critical mass. Why you MUST keep coaching. How if you aren’t making space for your business to grow, you may not be serious about coaching. We hope you take as much inspiration from this story as thousands of coaches have over the years. And thanks for being with us on this amazing journey - we hope you’ll be with us for the next 100 episodes! For the transcript of the episode and loads of links, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training If you like this episode, you’ll love Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The first episode in our series giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business-coaching-business-fundamentals The second episode in the series, focusing on Connecting with People: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals The fourth, focusing on creating insight for people, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/82-want-more-clients-create-more-insight-coaching-business-fundamentals The fifth, focusing on talking about how you work and how much it costs, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/83-if-you-want-to-make-more-money-talk-about-money-more-coaching-business-fundamentals The sixth, focusing on working with clients and generating referrals, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/85-get-more-referrals-for-your-coaching-business-coaching-business-fundamentals A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach Phil Bolton on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders Joel Monk on the Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Mike Toller on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller Catriona Horey on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-4-catriona-horey-too-far-away-from-the-joy How to choose a coaching training programme: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/89-how-to-choose-a-coaching-training-programme- The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack The full transcript of the episode, including lots more links: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training

In a world so focused on productivity, Coach’s Journey founder and host Robbie Swale is interrogating what this word really means. His work on the concept of meaningful productivity explores up questions like: “What do I need to do in order to be at peace with myself?” And: “Do I want to be more productive or simply not feel like I’m failing all the time?” In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Robbie joins Joey Owen for a conversation that gets to the very heart of Robbie’s work as a leadership and careers coach with over 2000 hours’ experience, and as an author whose decade-long writing practice has led to valuable contributions to the field, such as The 12-Minute Method and The Coaching Business Flywheel.  Robbie and Joey tackle fundamentally important questions about how coaches can make a difference in a world ravaged by conflict and division, how to stay humble in our work, and how to ensure we feel at peace with ourselves. You will hear Robbie and Joey speak about the importance of living and working with a code of honour, about learning to trust the strange and unexpected things that arise in coaching sessions, and how to integrate spiritual practices into your life through the rituals, hobbies, passions and habits you already do. If you would like to be doing more of what really matters to you, feeling better about the work you are doing, and living a rich life regardless of your financial situation, this episode is for you. Robbie and Joey also talk about: - How to cultivate a practice of trust that conversations happen at the right time - Not lying to ourselves about what we “have” to do - The places in our lives where we can practise presence and connection - How to manage your focus, attention and attitude in order to actively work towards the goals that matter most to you - The power of telling a story twice to embed an idea in your memory They also explore practical ways to keep yourself in the energy possibility, and Robbie shares the story of how “crashing and burning” while running a coaching event taught him powerful lessons about group dynamics, scapegoating and the importance of contracting. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Episode 45 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, with Raquel Ark https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-45-doing-the-right-thing-even-when-its-hard-raquel-ark-interviews-robbie - Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/ - The 12-Minute Method https://www.robbieswale.com/the12minutemethod - Workshop with Robbie and Claire Pedrick https://www.3dcoaching.com/artful-coach-soulful-business/ - Robbie’s article about leading with honour (A Man Got to Have a Code) https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2024/10/11/a-man-got-to-have-a-code-leading-with-honour-iii - The Meaningful Productivity Blueprint https://www.robbieswale.com/meaningful-productivity-blueprint-download-page - Gay Hendricks, Zone of Genius https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/2/3/the-zone-of-genius-the-most-powerful-thought-experiment-for-personal-transformation - Robert Holden, questions about purpose https://www.robertholden.com/blog/9-questions-help-find-purpose/ - A Warren Buffet story about how he helped the pilot of his private jet prioritise more https://passionateaboutoss.com/the-story-of-mike-flint - Seth Godin on setting fees https://seths.blog/2024/11/understanding-pricing/ - Parkinson’s law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law - Douglas Hoffstatter’s law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law - Ramit Sethi’s podcast https://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/podcast/ - Ffelyn Uchaf https://www.felinwales.org/ - Jim Dethmer and Joel Monk on Coaching from Sourcehttps://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/jim-dethmer-coaching-from-source/ - Frank Turner, The Way I Tend to Be https://frank-turner.com/tracks/the-way-i-tend-to-be/ - Frank Turner, The Gathering https://frank-turner.com/tracks/the-gathering/ - Frank Turner, Journey of the Magi https://frank-turner.com/tracks/journey-of-the-magi/ - Internal Family Systems (IFS) drama triangle https://www.stroudtherapy.com/news/2024/02/25/dramatriangleifs - David Gemmell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gemmell - The Wheel of Time novel series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time - The ‘Yes, And’ teambuilding exercise https://openpracticelibrary.com/practice/yes-and/ https://www.radicalagreement.com/post/yes-and-and-improv-teamwork - David Deida https://deida.info/ - Freedom to Learn https://freedomtolearn.org.uk/ - An Introduction to The Coach’s Journey Flywheel https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Being made redundant 18 months after moving to America transformed Ashana Crichton’s life because, in her own words, when you take away the security blanket you have to leap into something new. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ashana fondly recalls having the rug pulled from under her feet, because it set her on the path to becoming a certified Master Executive Coach and the founder of Arc Growth, which cultivates spaces of shared belonging for influential leaders and under-represented mid-career professionals. Having returned to her native London after five years abroad, Ashana issues a plea to remove the stigma around the term ‘life coaching’ in the UK, which she sees as a barrier to inclusivity and accessibility, and she shares reflections from her groundbreaking work with the Diverse Executive Coaches Network. Ashana delivers coaching and consultancy to businesses wishing to progress diversity, equity and inclusion, and here she offers crucial insights on the way biases and power imbalances can impact coaching relationships, along with practical guidance on how to address them. This episode is a manifesto for the power of working in true partnership with our clients, as Ashana illuminates the vast potential of knowledge, experience and inspiration that can be shared when we create the conditions for coaching’s unique value exchange. In this episode, Ashana and host Alex Whitton also talk about: • How to allow time for context to emerge before asking questions that can overwhelm our clients • Unexpected responses and how to harness them in supervision • The benefits of doing a lot of things and not expecting anything from them! • Reverse-mentoring programmes, where leaders are signed up to be mentored by a team member with a different lived experience Towards the end of this episode, Ashana shares the tools, skills and approaches she uses to continually further her personal and professional development, and expand her already broad horizons. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - The Association for Coaching https://www.associationforcoaching.com/ - Alex Whitton on the Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-64-alex-whitton-balancing-the-being-and-the-doing - The Bridging Project https://www.thebridgingproject.co.uk/ - The Diverse Executive coaches network https://diverseexecutivecoaches.co.uk/ - Hay, J (2007) Reflective Practice and Supervision for Coaches. Open University Press https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lV-wefs6JoUC

Growing up with a father and brother who were “never wrong” left Yannick Jacob seeking a life that wasn’t about right answers. That led him to coaching, and more specifically to existential coaching, a space where humanity’s oldest and most profound questions – and the plethora of answers to them – can be explored at a deeper level. Yannick is an existential life and leadership coach, a positive psychologist, and the programme director of the Accredited Certificate in Integrative Coaching (ACIC) at the School of Positive Transformation. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey, he shares what he learned about himself in order to hear his calling and live his truth as someone driven to explore the whole spectrum of what life has to offer. Host Neil Mackinnon helps Yannick to illuminate the links between his many passions, such as existential philosphy and DJing, and to demonstrate how integrating his variety of interests enriches his all areas of his work. Yannick also discusses his groundbreaking Coaching Lab, which offers the chance to witness highly experienced coaches live at work, and Rocket Supervision, which provides coaches with the support they need to practice at the top of their game. This episode will resonate with anyone who wants to feel empowered to shake up traditional coaching paradigms and create a practice that feels authentic and energising, as Yannick brings his remarkable breadth of experience and expertise to bear on some of the most fundamental questions we face as coaches and as human beings. In this episode, Yannick and Neil Mackinnon also talk about: Courageous choices, and how embracing discomfort can help to build meaning Enlarging your sphere of influence to enable people to connect with you The power of being financially committed to something, and the benefits to your clients of raising your fees When we should be brave enough to challenge the traditional frame and share more of ourselves with our clients Yannick issues a rallying cry to everyone in the coaching space to frame their space, sculpt the approach that works for them, and lean into their passion for their own way of doing things. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: Rocket Supervision www.RocketSupervision.com  Coaching Lab www.GoCoachingLab.com  Yannick’s Nuggets (mailing list) https://gocoachinglab.com/nuggets Dr Nash Popovich https://www.personalwellbeingcentre.org/nash-popovic Martin Seligman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Seligman RS Lazarus on the Positive Psychology movement https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232977091_Does_the_Positive_Psychology_Movement_Have_Legs Soren Kierkegaard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B8ren_Kierkegaard Jean-Paul Sartre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Sartre New School of Psychotherapy and Counselling https://nspc.org.uk/ Christopher Neubert https://human-edge.com/team/christian-neubert/ The Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/ An Introduction to Existential Coaching: How Philosophy Can Help Your Clients https://www.aoec.com/ Yannick’s book, An Introduction to Existential Coaching: How Philosophy Can Help Your Clients Live with Greater Awareness, Courage and Ownership https://www.amazon.co.uk/Introduction-Existential-Coaching-Philosophy-Awareness/dp/0367139995 Albert Bandura’s Social Learning Theory https://www.simplypsychology.org/bandura.html Coaching Starter Kit https://rocketsupervision.com/coaching-starter-kit/ Erik de Haan http://www.erikdehaan.com/ Peter Hawkins https://thoughtleadership.org/staff-member/peter-hawkins/ Montessori https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montessori_education The Coach’s Journey Flywheel https://www.animascoaching.com/about-animas/our-team/nick-bolton/ Nick Bolton, Animas https://www.animascoaching.com/about-animas/our-team/nick-bolton/ Heron’s six categories of intervention https://challengingcoaching.co.uk/herons-six-categories-of-intervention/ Nancy Kline https://www.timetothink.com/nancy-kline/ ICF https://coachingfederation.org/

How do our surroundings affect our ability to think? And can we connect with our sense of place and purpose by immersing ourselves in nature? In this episode of the Coach’s Journey Podcast, walking coach Rebecca Norton brings her combined expertise in coaching and mountain leadership to bear on these questions and many more, in conversation with host Alex Swallow. Rebecca and Alex explore the lasting impact that access to the natural world has on our lives, from infancy through to adulthood, and how the coaching walks that Rebecca offers her clients help them to navigate new pathways – both in the physical environment and their internal worlds. Rebecca, who delivers workshop facilitation and social prescribing alongside her coaching and “wonder walks”, describes how she carefully built up her coaching business while continually developing her skills and experience as an outdoor activities instructor. She links the idea of being a tourist in your own city and developing curiosity about new perspectives with the importance of getting alongside coaching clients and seeing the world through their eyes. The many twists, turns, ups and downs of Rebecca’s adventures in the hills act as a powerful metaphor for journeys through the challenges of careers, relationships, families and life decisions. Just as her clients gain new perspective on their lives as they ascend into the hills with Rebecca, so do we as she reflects on her unique, brilliant approach to coaching conversations and many other aspects of her work. In this episode, Rebecca and Alex also talk about: The power of experiencing coaching techniques from both sides How to integrate experiences as we train and gain qualifications The barriers we place between ourselves and our own fulfillment Seeing who we need to become in order to achieve our goals How to lower the importance of gaining a client when building your coaching business Rebecca also reminds us that personal development can be a grueling expedition, and that if we fail to interrogate our deeper purpose and connect the ‘why’ that guides us, we can be at risk of losing our way. She generously ends this episode with an array of tips to help coaches stay at their best. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The Coaching Academy https://www.the-coaching-academy.com/ Skill Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkillForce Wonder Walks https://senseofdirection.life/wonder-walk/ Peter Sage https://petersage.com/ The Life Coach Directory https://www.lifecoach-directory.org.uk/ The Self-Love Journal: https://senseofdirection.life/product/self-love-journal/

GiveDirectly is an extraordinary organisation, working to end extreme poverty through an idea that is simple but revolutionary: give cash directly to people in extreme poverty and let them decide what they need most. Research shows this approach is not only effective but also deeply empowering. Since I (Robbie) first read about GiveDirectly in 2017, it has been the focus of almost all my charitable giving: I find the research-backed practices and incredibly meaningful recipient stories so compelling that almost every time I have thought in detail about the organisation and what they do, I have increased my regular giving. In this special Podcasthon episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Stephanie Hill, the VP, People at GiveDirectly, joins me to explore the connections between teaching, coaching, and leadership, and to outline the transformational work that GiveDirectly does. From her days working to recruit and develop thousands of teachers in New York City to her role in helping a rapidly scaling global nonprofit build strong teams, Stephanie shares deep insights into learning, growth, and the power of trusting people to know what they need. In this episode, we discuss, on GiveDirectly: Why giving cash directly to the poorest people in the world works! Common misconceptions about cash transfers as a form of philanthropy. Amazing stories from GiveDirectly’s recipients. The Power of Trust – why both great coaching and effective philanthropy start from the belief that people know what they need. And on learning, coaching, culture and more: The Gradual Release Model – how great teaching (and coaching) helps people build confidence and autonomy over time. Lessons from Scaling – what it takes to grow an organization quickly while keeping core values intact. Building a Culture of Learning – how GiveDirectly fosters ongoing development among its globally distributed team. Leading with Values - how has GiveDirectly taken its company values and actually brought them to life. Stephanie’s personal leadership journey – what she learned from recruiting and training 5,000 teachers a year and how those lessons apply to coaching, leadership and organizational growth today. This episode is packed with wisdom for coaches, leaders, and anyone passionate about learning, development, and making a meaningful impact. I can’t wait to share GiveDirectly’s amazing work with you, but it’s not just that this is an amazing charity that made me want to feature GiveDirectly on the show; it’s that it’s a charity whose work closely aligns with the philosophy of coaching. At its heart, coaching is about trusting people, believing they have the answers within them, and supporting them to make the best choices for their own lives. GiveDirectly operates on the same principle. Rather than imposing solutions, it hands people the resources to create their own change. For coaches who want to make a difference in the world beyond their work, I can’t think of a better organization to support: if you’ve never quite found a focus for your charitable giving that really resonates, or if you’ve ever wondered how you can contribute in a way that aligns with the values of coaching — courage, trust, empowerment, and belief in human potential — GiveDirectly could be a powerful answer. If you have a few pounds or dollars to spare this month or every month, consider giving to GiveDirectly. They will send it to someone for whom those few pounds or dollars will go further than you can possibly imagine, as part of a story of courage, empowerment and trust in the beauty of human nature. For more information about GiveDirectly, visit: https://www.givedirectly.org/ or https://www.linkedin.com/company/givedirectly To donate to GiveDirectly, visit: https://www.givedirectly.org/donate/ For more information about Stephanie, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-hill-1232028 For more information about Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/. Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. This episode is part of Podcasthon.org: a global movement to convince as many podcast hosts as possible to dedicate one episode of their show to a charity of their choice and to release these episodes simultaneously, in a coordinated effort, mid-March 2025, creating a massive and international wave of inspiring audio content. We’re delighted to be part of it - you can read more here: https://podcasthon.org/ THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: Rutger Bregman: https://www.rutgerbregman.com/ Bregman on tax at Davos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ijiLqfXP0 Bregman’s TED Talk - "Poverty isn't a lack of character; it's a lack of cash": https://www.ted.com/talks/rutger_bregman_poverty_isn_t_a_lack_of_character_it_s_a_lack_of_cash/ Utopia for Realists: https://www.rutgerbregman.com/books/utopia-for-realists GiveDirectly Live: https://live.givedirectly.org/ GiveDirectly’s Research: https://www.givedirectly.org/research-at-give-directly/ Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs GiveDirectly Donation Link for the US: https://www.givedirectly.org/donate/ GiveDirectly Donation Link for the UK: https://cafdonate.cafonline.org/5197#!/DonationDetails How to donate to GiveDirectly from other countries: https://www.givedirectly.org/giving-internationally Teach for America: https://www.teachforamerica.org/ TeachFirst: https://www.teachfirst.org.uk/ The GROW Model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GROW_model Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inner-Game-Tennis-ultimate-performance/dp/1035047926 GiveDirectly NPR Article: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/12/02/781152563/researchers-find-a-remarkable-ripple-effect-when-you-give-cash-to-poor-families Carol Dweck and Growth Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/Mindset-Psychology-Carol-S-Dweck/dp/0345472322 Elena Aguilar and "Mind the Gap": https://www.edweek.org/education/opinion-the-key-to-working-with-adult-learners-mind-the-gap/2018/02 Fred Kofman: https://www.fredkofman.org/ The GiveDirectly Values: https://www.givedirectly.org/givedirectly-values/ The Leadership Pipeline (book): https://www.amazon.com/Leadership-Pipeline-Second-Edition-Developing/dp/0470894563 How to Help GiveDirectly: https://www.givedirectly.org/how-to-help/ Work at GiveDirectly: https://www.givedirectly.org/careers/ Podcasthon: https://podcasthon.org/ Book your place at Robbie and Claire Pedrick’s event in Malvern in 2025: The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business. Read more here: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1504338 FULL BIOGRAPHY FROM STEPHANIE Stephanie began her career as an educator. After university, she joined Teach For America in New York City and taught English Literature to low-income High School students in The Bronx while getting her Master’s degree in teaching. She then worked for Teach For America as a coach to cohorts of new teachers. After a brief stint as a recruiter, she joined the New York City Department of Education to build a new model for teacher preparation - one that would integrate theory and practice and include a longer, more intentional gradual release of responsibility for new recruits. The program also created a new career-ladder position for the supervisors of these aspiring teachers - experienced educators who were selected and trained to not just share their classroom, but also provide targeted, actionable modeling and feedback that would accelerate the learning process. Stephanie worked to scale that program to prepare over 500 new teachers for NYC’s hardest to staff schools each year, while eventually taking on leadership of the city’s overall teacher recruitment and preparation - where she led a team to recruit and place over 5,000 new teachers each year. In April of 2020, she joined the international non-profit organization GiveDirectly as their first VP, People, just as the organization was going through a period of rapid growth, with ~75% headcount increase year over year. GiveDirectly takes an innovative approach to aid by giving unconditional cash to people living in extreme poverty, often using a technology-forward approach to maximize efficiency (and therefore dollars to recipients). Stephanie is proud to have led the People function for the past 5 years - building and defining recruitment, people operations, learning and development, talent planning and employee engagement for the organization.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, hosts Robbie Swale, Alex Swallow and Alex Whitton reflect on some of their most practical takeaways from over 90 episodes of the show. These are the things that they have taken and used in their coaching and coaching businesses… and you can too! In particular, they talk about: Working over a period of time not a number of sessions. Creating rolling coaching engagements. Making the invitation to a coaching session a gift. Using neuroscience in the sales process. What to do when your client says they need help making a decision. Constantly humanising ourselves and others. Focus on serving (and sales and leads being an indicator of that). Going to the toilet in coaching sessions and creating insight when you do it. Creating clients by writing on a napkin. And loads more! Plus, they open the episode exploring the value of focusing on inspiration, and we get to hear what has been inspiring each of them recently. There are links to the episodes and resources they discuss in the shownotes below. Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN Free Ebook: An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/ Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both Pete McKee: https://www.petemckee.com/ The Invention of Nature - Alexander Humboldt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_Nature Goethe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community Chronos and Kairos: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2025/1/24/chronos-and-kairos-enlist-both-the-gods-of-time Toku McCree’s second appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-54-toku-mccree-zen-and-the-art-of-coaching Claire Pedrick and Lucia Baldelli on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-55-claire-pedrick-and-lucia-baldelli-the-human-behind-the-coach Philip Crocker on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/88-philip-crocker-coaching-is-the-most-natural-thing-in-the-world Episode #8 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, with loads of other nuts and bolts stuff from Robbie: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-structure-first-conversations-marketing-price The Coach’s Journey Video Page: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/videos Bill Small on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-48-bill-small-the-key-to-creation-is-dealing-with-being-uncomfortable Myles Downey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/69-myles-downey-what-is-effective-coaching-performance-coaching-when-to-be-directive-changing-clients-maps-of-reality-and-more Chris Joseph on The Coach’s Journey Podcast (Alex’s key moment is 1:05 in): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph Amy Brann on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/87-amy-brann-neuroscience-for-coaches Marcia Reynolds on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-14-marcia-reynolds-becoming-world-number-five-coachin-guru-rgdph-b5j29 Pbil Bolton on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders Catriona Horey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-4-catriona-horey-too-far-away-from-the-joy Minor Arias on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56 Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Jamie Smart on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-16-jamie-smart Marie Quigley on The Coach’s Journey Podcast (Alex’s bit is 46 minutes in): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/71-marie-quigley-living-in-fulfilment-is-a-radical-act-ybxyl Sheffield Coaching Exchange: https://uk.linkedin.com/company/sheffield-coaching-exchange Ruth Saville’s Leeds Coaching Walk: https://www.ruthsaville.co.uk/leeds-coach-walks Coaches Walking LinkedIn Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12827884/ The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

So many coaches find themselves lost in comparison as they work on their coaching businesses. In this TCJ Short, an excerpt from Episode #42, you can hear developmental psychologist Jennifer Garvey Berger sharing the metaphor she uses to support her clients to gain more perspective on the impossible comparisons they create for themselves. As Jennifer and Robbie discuss, even just hearing this metaphor will help anyone who finds themselves trapped in comparison to gain even a tiny bit more perspective, so that they can respond differently in the face of comparison pressures. Listen back to Episode #42 in full here, for Jennifer’s story and many amazing ideas and tips for you and your coaching business, including a broader discussion of comparison for women and the underpinning ideas of complexity and vertical development: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both You’ll also find links to everything Robbie and Jennifer discuss on that page. To learn more about Jennifer, visit https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/team-member/jennifer-garvey-berger or https://twitter.com/jgberger. For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. FOR LINKS TO EVERYTHING DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE, VISIT: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both Download Robbie’s FREE ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Read about Robbie’s upcoming workshop with Claire Pedrick here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robbieswale_the-artful-coach-and-the-soulful-coaching-activity-7285744469444812801-gBzq?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop Book your place on the workshop, The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1504338 Listen to Robbie and Claire discussing artful coaching and soulful coaching businesses in Episode #92: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/92-the-artful-coach-and-the-soulful-coaching-business-a-joint-episode-with-clare-pedrick-and-robbie-swale  ABOUT JENNIFER GARVEY BERGER The co-founder and CEO of Cultivating Leadership, Jennifer blends deep theoretical knowledge with a driving quest for practical ways to make leaders’ lives better. She coaches executives and executive teams, and designs and teaches leadership programs. Jennifer has written three highly acclaimed books on leadership and complexity and how to grow the capacities we need for the world in which we live. She hopes her newly-released fourth book, Unleash Your Complexity Genius, will change your life. When she’s not working with clients and colleagues, you can find her in the French countryside, where she has bought a house with eleven friends who live in community and try to keep the dog from terrifying the cats.

In this unique crossover episode of The Coaching Inn and The Coach’s Journey Podcast, hosts Claire Pedrick and Robbie Swale come together for the first time to discuss their upcoming collaborative workshop, The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business, scheduled for 10th May, 2025. This episode is a delightful blend of humor, insightful conversation, and a deep dive into the themes of artful coaching and soulful business practices. In particular: Claire delves into the concept of the Artful Coach and why she prefers that to the idea of ‘mastery’. Claire unpacks why it’s not coaching when the coach is doing more thinking than the thinker. Robbie shares the accidental discovery of the phrase, The Soulful Coaching Business, and why it aligns with what he has seen in the coaching industry. Robbie explains how we can follow our fear to create a business that fulfils us without us having to compromise who we are. As Claire and Robbie wrap up the episode, it’s easy to feel the excitement and anticipation they have for the upcoming workshop… they hope to see you there! Book your place on the workshop, The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1504338 Robbie’s longer description of the workshop: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robbieswale_the-artful-coach-and-the-soulful-coaching-activity-7285744469444812801-gBzq?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop Book your place on the walk the following day: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1206619 Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN Claire on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching Claire on The Coach’s Journey Podcast with Lucia Baldelli, talking about The Human Behind The Coach: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-55-claire-pedrick-and-lucia-baldelli-the-human-behind-the-coach Robbie on The Coaching Inn: https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-robbie-swale-how-to-start-when-you-re-stuck/ and https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-robbie-swale/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKVEJqdqiTg and https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/s4-episode-24-claire-pedrick-s-3d-supervision-community-with-guest-host-robbie-swale/ Claire’s workshop with Ruth Davey, also in Worcestershire: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1506834 Henley Business School: https://www.henley.ac.uk/ Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coach’s Journey Podcast Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Fred Kofman: https://www.fredkofman.org/sobre-fred-kofman-ing.php Elena Aguilar and Mind The Gap: https://www.edweek.org/education/opinion-the-key-to-working-with-adult-learners-mind-the-gap/2018/02 Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both The War of Art: https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/ Book your place at Robbie and Claire Pedrick’s event in Malvern in 2025: The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business. Read more here: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1504338 BIOGRAPHY FROM CLAIRE Claire Pedrick is, in her own words, a human who facilitates other people’s thinking. She is a business owner. A mother. A friend. A volunteer. An MCC Master Coach with over 13,000 hours of experience. And she is the author of Simplifying Coaching and host at The Coaching Inn podcast. About these descriptions, Claire says: “All of these are true and each will impact how we start a conversation. With some definitions you might assign me power which I do not deserve.” Claire established 3D Coaching in the 1990s to bring together the simplest and best learning from coaching, to support people in organisations to have more effective conversations with an edge. Coaching for more than 35 years, she believes that the essence of coaching is simple and that it takes time to learn to work that simply.

This short episode contains Robbie’s answer to a question every coach should ask themselves, especially if they want a sustainable coaching business: how do create a powerful ending to a coaching engagement? It’s so easy as a coach to completely miss the opportunity to create meaning and transformation at the end of our coaching programmes. But that's what's possible if we pay attention to this key moment in our work. In this episode Robbie explains: What I learned about endings from my coaches, like Rich Litvin and Joel Monk. The exact words I use with clients to help make the ending of our work a part of their transformation. What I say to create the possibility for more referrals from my clients after our work.  How we can support our clients to rewrite their scripts around endings. There are links to most of the people and resources Robbie mentions below. Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS ROBBIE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN The video version of this episode: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/91-how-to-create-a-powerful-ending-to-a-coaching-engagement Robbie on the Better Bolder Braver Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqhR6lGgNgA The episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast Flywheel Series about working with clients and creating referrals: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/85-get-more-referrals-for-your-coaching-business-coaching-business-fundamentals Episode #8 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, with loads of other nuts and bolts stuff from Robbie: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-structure-first-conversations-marketing-price His video about working with clients over a period of time not a number of sessions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzeyK2yvWOI&t=0s Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/ Claire Pedrick on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching Robbie and Claire Pedrick’s event in Malvern in 2025: The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business. Read more here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robbieswale_the-artful-coach-and-the-soulful-coaching-activity-7285744469444812801-gBzq?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

In this TCJ Short, an excerpt from Episode #47, you can hear Lindsey Lewis describing the six key skills she had to develop in order to create a successful coaching business, inspired by experts in the field like Amber Krysz, Carolyn Freyer Jones and Steve Chandler. Lindsey outlines the skills, and then she and Robbie and dive into some of them in detail. The things Robbie and Lindsey discuss here give practical texture to some of the stages of The Coaching Business Flywheel. Download the free ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel here. Those six skills that every coach needs to build a successful coaching business are: Being your professional self Mastering invitations Running skilful initial conversations Maiking proposals Navigating what comes after the proposals Creating a healthy relationship with money and wealth. And all in just a few minutes! Listen back to Episode #47 in full here, for Lindsey’s story and many amazing ideas and tips for you and your coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent You’ll also find links to everything Robbie and Lindsey discuss on that page. For more information about Lindsey, visit https://imlindseylewis.com/coaching/ and https://www.instagram.com/imlindseylewis/ For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. FOR LINKS TO EVERYTHING DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE, VISIT: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent

This short episode contains the answer to one of the questions Robbie gets asked the most, a question that is really hard to answer as you set out on your journey as a coach: how do I choose a coaching training programme? There are links to most of the people Robbie mentioned, as well as the article about changing careers, below. Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS ROBBIE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN - Robbie’s article about how to find work you love (look at The Lean Career Change section - skip to number 9): https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2020/9/11/10-step-process-to-find-work-you-love Episodes on The Coach's Journey Podcast from people who train/have trained at: Barefoot Coaching: Kim Morgan: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan Alex Swallow: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-62-alex-swallow-life-is-better-when-we-choose Ruth Saville: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-66-ruth-saville-how-to-be-a-rebel-misbehave-more-and-set-your-sights-on-being-a-master-coach Animas: Robert Stephenson: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change The Academy of Executive Coaching: Neil Mackinnon: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-57-neil-mackinnon-when-you-step-into-the-hallowed-ground-of-coaching-show-up John Monks: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-39-john-monks-closing-the-circle-and-becoming-closer-apart MOE: Catriona Horey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-4-catriona-horey-too-far-away-from-the-joy Jeffrey Wotherspoon: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-24-jeffrey-wotherspoon Mark Bixter: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/74-mark-bixter-to-see-the-true-value-of-coaching-look-beyond-the-fees Alex Whitton: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-64-alex-whitton-balancing-the-being-and-the-doing Chloe Garland: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-65-chloe-garland-the-jam-donut-principle-quarter-life-crises-and-the-philosophy-of-coaching But those are just four options - the key thing is to try them out and see what gives you a great feel.

Can coaching teach us to love ourselves more? Can it help us come to terms with injustice and pain? Does it offer a route towards peace? Executive coach, consultant and facilitator Philip Crocker explores all of these questions in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, and shares the wisdom and insights he uses in his work with senior leaders from some of the world’s most innovative organisations. Philip tells host Alex Whitton what he learned from launching several successful businesses before training as a coach and coach supervisor – an experience he describes as “a brilliant illumination”. Weaving together threads from physics and human relationships, Philip describes ways to increase the flow of energy between people in coaching conversations, utilising conductivity in much the same way as electrical circuits do. Philip says his purpose is to help people who feel written off to live a whole life. He is an expert in strategic facilitation and his own podcast, Alongsider, brings people from all walks of life into alignment with each other, allowing them to find their place and also take it. In this episode, Philip and Alex also talk about: • How to grow a coaching client base full of the people you need to help you learn and develop. • Slowing down when finding your niche, and how to navigate towards it. • The theories and relationships that underpin successful business growth. • The power of coaching to help people fall in love with themselves more. • The particular quality of connection that creates influence between people in coaching conversations. Philip also illuminates the shift we all have to make when we move from the separateness of our education system into the complexity of the world, and how coaching offers a space of integrity that can help us grapple with and utilise that complexity. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): Clare Pedrick https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-55-claire-pedrick-and-lucia-baldelli-the-human-behind-the-coach Clare’s books Simplifying Coaching and The Human Behind The Coach https://www.3dcoaching.com/shop/book-bundle-human-behind-the-coach-simplifying-coaching-signed-copies/ Robin Yourston https://www.linkedin.com/in/gandrprobin/?originalSubdomain=uk Dr. David Rock, Quiet Leadership: Six Steps to Transforming Performance at Work https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2602650-quiet-leadership Dr. David Rock's SCARF model https://modelthinkers.com/mental-model/scarf-model Dr Sally Vanson and the Performance Solution https://theperformancesolution.com/the-coaches/dr-sally-vanson/ NLP https://anlp.org/knowledge-base/definition-of-nlp Carl Jung typology test https://jung.test.typologycentral.com/ ILM Level 7 Leadership and Management https://www.i-l-m.com/learning-and-development/management/management-and-leadership-generic/8617-level-7-leadership-and-management Human Conductivity https://www.humanconductivity.com/ Debra Green https://roc.uk.com/about/team/debra-green-obe/ Measure What Matters by John Doerr https://www.whatmatters.com/the-book Jung's personality types https://www.thesap.org.uk/articles-on-jungian-psychology-2/about-analysis-and-therapy/typology/ DISC theory, which employ Jung's personality types  https://discboulevard.com/en/theory-behind-disc/

Amy Brann has been studying neuroscience since she was 15. Now, as the founder of Synaptic Potential, she brings all that expertise to working with organisations to create meaningful change backed by scientific underpinnings. Named 2023 HR Most Influential Thinker, Amy is the author of three books about neuroscience, including Neuroscience For Coaches, which is on the reading lists of many of the best coach training organisations and forms the foundation for this episode: a deep dive into how to make coaching and learning really work. In conversation with The Coach’s Journey Founder Robbie Swale, Amy busts myths, teaches hard-to-understand science in ways we can grasp, and tells a story of hope and optimism for what is possible if we can understand brain science and move towards our Whole Brain Potential. In particular, Amy and Robbie talk about: The pitfalls of setting high expectations with your clients and how to avoid them. The neuroscience of visualisations, and how to use them effectively to increase autonomy for your clients. Crucial areas of neuroscience for coaches to know about: neuroplasticity, mirror neurons and more. Why trust is one of the things coaches should pay more attention to and how to do that. Plus Amy coaches Robbie live on how to let his emotions help him pay attention to the right things. For more information about Amy, visit https://neuroscienceforcoaches.com/resources/, ttps://www.linkedin.com/in/amybrann/ or https://synapticpotential.com/ For more information about host Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The Reticular Activating System note from Amy: ‘The reticular activating system spans an extensive portion of the brainstem. Most of the neurons comprising the midbrain reticular formation lie dorsal and lateral to the red nuclei. Complex interactions between multiple neurotransmitters modulate the action of the reticular activating system with both cholinergic and adrenergic neurotransmission having key roles. The reticular activating system's fundamental role is regulating arousal and sleep−wake transitions. The ascending reticular activating system projects to the intralaminar nuclei of the thalami, which projects diffusely to the cerebral cortex. The ascending projections of the reticular activating system enhance the attentive state of the cortex and facilitate conscious perception of sensory stimuli. Additionally, the collective role of the brainstem reticular formation is to regulate autonomic function, muscle reflexes, and tone.’ B.L. Walter, A.G. Shaikh, in Encyclopedia of the Neurological Sciences (Second Edition), 2014 - note from Robbie: So it is part of the brain, but only a small part of it is about attention/conscious perception. To fully understand this, we’ll have to invite Amy back on the show! Curly Martin - The Life Coaching Handbook: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Life-Coaching-Handbook-Everything-effective/dp/1899836713/ Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach Seth Godin - The Bannister Method: https://seths.blog/2018/03/the-bannister-method/ Jacinta Jimenez on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-26-jacinta-jimenez-the-burnout-fix-betterup The Maya Angelou quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/5934-i-ve-learned-that-people-will-forget-what-you-said-people Antonio Damasio - The Somatic Marker Hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_marker_hypothesis Unconscious Incompetence -> Unconscious Competence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence Richard Strozzi-Heckler: https://strozziinstitute.org/staff/richard-strozzi-heckler/ Jeffrey Schwarz: https://jeffreymschwartz.com/ Dan Siegel: https://drdansiegel.com/ Henry Stapp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Stapp Zoe, the personalised dieting company: https://zoe.com/ BIOGRAPHY FROM AMY BRANN Amy is the founder of Synaptic Potential, a consultancy that supports sustainable high performance enabling people to contribute more to their organisation by working smarter not harder. She is an author and a global speaker who’s ‘Fact not Fluff’ approach is a welcome authority in a world awash with questionable theories. She passionately believes that a great way to achieve your full potential in life and work is by knowing more about how your brain works so you can work with it. Her ombination of scientific expertise and practical real-world experience give audiences easy-to-implement frameworks that uplift brain performance. Over the past 20 years, Amy has been trusted by hundreds of businesses of all shapes and sizes across the globe, including Tesco, Warner Brother, EY, Twinings, Novartis and BNP Paribas, sharing fresh evidence-based insights that challenge people’s status quo, and delivering practical frameworks on how to improve performance and close the potential-performance gap that stops individuals and organisations achieving their Whole Brain Potential TM. As frequent keynote speaker at international business events, Amy gives audiences invaluable bite-sized, actionable takeaways based on the latest neuroscience research that leaders, managers and teams can implement in their daily work practices to improve key skills from creativity through to decision-making. Over the years, Synaptic Potential have partnered with The Wales Centre for Behaviour Change to support organisations, the Moller Institute at Cambridge University to deliver programmes and Manchester Metropolitan University to lead the neuroscience component of the Masters of Sports Directorship. Amy is the author of three compelling books - Make Your Brain Work, Neuroscience for Coaches, and Engaged: The Neuroscience Behind Creating Productive People in Successful Organizations - that show organizations practical ways to approach people development through the lens of neuroscience.

In this TCJ Short, an excerpt from Episode #53, you can hear Sarah Fox and Robbie outlining powerful and simple ways for a coach (and any freelancer or self-employed person) to take control of their finances and manage them more skilfully: both for now, and for the future. In particular, they talk about: Separating priceless you from the business and work you do so you can get clear on your numbers. The practical change that Robbie made that transformed both how well his finances are organised and how he felt about it. How these changes affect how we feel about investing in our business. Why a rainy day account is VERY important for coaches. The insight that stopped Robbie procrastinating and finally made him take control of his finances. And all in just a few minutes! Listen back to Episode #53 in full here, for Sarah’s story and many amazing ideas and tips for you and your coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-53-sarah-fox-how-to-do-good-in-the-world-and-do-well-for-yourself For more information about Sarah, visit http://www.sarahfox.co.uk/. For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

This is the sixth and final episode in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business. In this episode, Robbie and Ruth get to grips with the final part of the flywheel, the thing we all got into this coaching thing for: working with clients. They share the most effective ways to make your coaching more powerful and useful for your clients and – more than that – how to make your coaching more likely to create future referrals and connections, making each client coached a seed planted that could sprout as new business at any time. The episode is packed with ways to create more referrals: get your pens ready and start thinking about how to turn the ideas in this episode into actions you can take. In particular, Robbie and Ruth cover: How to use the science of deliberate practice to improve your work as a coach. The ONE question to ask yourself to help generate more referrals from your clients. The two most important qualities to make your coaching more impactful. Why having a niche can be really useful as a coach. We hope you’ve enjoyed this series – we certainly have. The shownotes on this page and the other episode pages are a treasure trove of resources to help you with your business – but if you want more, consider joining The Coach’s Journey Community. Listen to the first episode in this series, giving an overview of the Flywheel and why it matters here:  https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business The second, about using connections to create coaching clients, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals The fourth, focusing on creating insight, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/82-want-more-clients-create-more-insight-coaching-business-fundamentals The fifth, focusing on talking about how you work and how much it costs, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/83-if-you-want-to-make-more-money-talk-about-money-more-coaching-business-fundamentals More episodes on the nuts and bolts of coaching businesses are coming soon – sign up here to be the first to hear about them: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/subscribe To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business The second episode in the series, focusing on Connecting with People: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals The fourth, focusing on creating insight for people, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/82-want-more-clients-create-more-insight-coaching-business-fundamentals The fifth, focusing on talking about how you work and how much it costs, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/83-if-you-want-to-make-more-money-talk-about-money-more-coaching-business-fundamentals A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel The ONE Thing by Gary Keller: https://the1thing.com/book/ Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0141036257 Bounce by Matthew Syed: https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/book/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/ Myles Downey on The Coach’s Journey the first time: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey Myles Downey on The Coach’s Journey the second time: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/69-myles-downey-what-is-effective-coaching-performance-coaching-when-to-be-directive-changing-clients-maps-of-reality-and-more The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey: https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/ Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach Gary Buxton’s Coaches Walks in the North West: https://www.garybuxton.co.uk/walk Ruth Richards’ Coaches Walks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-richards-46153a23/ Claire Pedrick’s Coaches Walks in the Malverns and a LinkedIn Group for coaches walking everywhere: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12827884/ Julie Starr Reflection Form: https://learnstarr.com/courses/the-coaching-manual-free-downloads/ Jim Dethmer on Coaches Rising Podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/jim-dethmer-coaching-from-source/ Robbie’s article, Recommiting Is The Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/recommitting-is-the-journey The Meaning Revolution by Fred Kofman: https://www.fredkofman.org/lrds-ing.php Robbie’s article, It’s Time For You To Die: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/15/its-time-for-you-to-die Mike Toller on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller The Coach’s Journey videos page: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/videos Kim Morgan on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan Robbie’s friend, Nina O’Farrell: https://www.ninaofarrell.com/ Jackee Holder on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/73-jackee-holder-trauma-informed-coaches-have-never-been-more-needed The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

Gary Buxton admits he spends his life stuck in rabbitholes. As a psychologist and executive coach, he loves nothing more than to geek out about the evidence base for coaching, ensuring his own practice is built on the latest science. While Gary is a firm believer that coaching is always a process and never a destination, in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast he warns against the pitfalls of being overwhelmed by study, reminding us that it is through practice that we cultivate and nurture our own unique coaching stance. Gary’s own journey has encompassed work as a director, CEO and head hunter in the private sector, as well as helping people back into work in the social impact sector, honing his coaching skills in diverse, challenging settings. Awarded an MBE in 2014 for Services to the Young People of England, Gary now trains new coaches on the Barefoot Coaching postgraduate programme, He is a qualified coach mentor and coach supervisor with ICF, and is on his way to becoming a chartered coaching psychologist with the British Psychological Society. In conversation with host Ruth Saville, Gary explores a vibrant array of concepts from psychology and coaching that centre around creating balance in our lives and having our value reflected in our work. In this episode, Gary and host Ruth Saville also talk about: • The benefits of keeping a third of your time free for play • How to nurture your task-positive and default mode networks • What psychologists have to teach coaches...and vice versa! • How to turn your friends into your marketing department Gary also speaks about how to hold onto the value of your work in a coaching landscape filling up with new tools, technology and solutions, and how to put enough of yourself out into the world to allow people to choose you. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/ British Psychological Society https://www.bps.org.uk/ Lisa Feldman Barrett https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/ Barefoot Coaching https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/ Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/ ICF https://coachingfederation.org/ Three Principles and Sydney Banks https://threeprinciplesfoundation.org/about-sydney-banks Coaching Psychology Network https://www.thecoachingpsychologynetwork.com/ BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/en-gb CoachHub https://www.coachhub.com/en/ Know You More https://www.knowyoumore.com/ Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/ The Little ACT Workbook by Michael Sinclair https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/michael-sinclair/the-little-act-workbook/9781780592435/ The Coach’s Casebook by Kim Morgan and Geoff Watts https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/product/the-coachs-casebook-kim-morgan-geoff-watts-2015/ Simplifying Coaching by Claire Pedrick https://www.3dcoaching.com/shop/simplifying-coaching/ Erik de Haan https://instituteofcoaching.org/erik-de-haan

This episode is the fifth in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business. In this episode, Robbie and Ruth focus on the part of the Flywheel that often creates the most fear and resistance for coaches: telling people how you work, how much it costs and how to pay you. It couldn’t be clearer that unless you do this, there are no clients to coach. And yet, so many of us are filled with fear, hesitance and/or ickyness when it comes to the money conversation. In this conversation, we’ll try to change that. We cover: Resources and tactics that can help you think about how YOU want to work with clients, and how to talk about that authentically. How to rewrite your stories about money. Why buying coaching for yourself will make ALL the difference to your money conversations.   How to change the default so that you tell more people how you work and how much it costs, instead of almost never doing that. Listen to the first episode in this series, giving an overview of the Flywheel and why it matters here:  https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business The second, about using connections to create coaching clients, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals The fourth, focusing on creating insight, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/82-want-more-clients-create-more-insight-coaching-business-fundamentals The next episode will be out soon – sign up to our mailing list here to be the first to hear about it: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/subscribe To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business The second episode in the series, focusing on Connecting with People: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals The fourth, focusing on creating insight for people, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/82-want-more-clients-create-more-insight-coaching-business-fundamentals A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel The Coach’s Journey videos page: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/videos Rich Litvin – The Art of the Proposal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjwzfLIA8w0 The Prosperous Coach and Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/book/ Robbie’s brother, Ewan Townhead, on money: https://www.ewantownhead.com/money-is-not-what-you-think-it-is/ Jen Sincero – You Are a Badass At Making Money: https://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Are-Badass-Making-Money/dp/0735222975 Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Giovanna Capozza on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza Robbie’s article - 6 Reasons Why Hiring a Coach is the Most Important Thing For You to Do If You Want a Successful Coaching Business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/6-reasons-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-thing-for-you-to-do-if-you-want-a-successful-coaching-business Toku McCree on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

This episode is the fourth in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business. In it, Robbie and Ruth dive into the power of focusing our energy and action on creating insight, and how, if we create insight enough, we almost can’t help but have the coaching business we want. Robbie shares why he believes that the more we can create insight for someone before they become a client, the better it is for our businesses, and outlines just how powerful creating insight can be for putting energy into our business that will pay back again, and again, and again. We cover: What is insight and why does it matter? The advantages of ‘The Prosperous Coach Approach’ and just coaching people even before they are clients. (We touch on the disadvantages, too.) Why we forget that we know MANY ways to create insight for people. A question you can ask yourself every day to get into action building your coaching business. Listen to the first episode in this series, giving an overview of the Flywheel and why it matters here:  https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business The second, about using connections to create coaching clients, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals The next episode will be out soon – sign up to our mailing list here to be the first to hear about it. To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business The second episode in the series, focusing on Connecting with People: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel The Prosperous Coach and Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/book/ Robbie’s video on how to structure a conversation with a potential client, and loads of other practical videos are here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/videos Claire Pedrick on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching Neil Mackinnon on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-57-neil-mackinnon-when-you-step-into-the-hallowed-ground-of-coaching-show-up Lindsey Lewis on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent Toku McCree on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword Giovanna Capozza on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza Jackee Holder on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/73-jackee-holder-trauma-informed-coaches-have-never-been-more-needed Iyanla Vanzant: https://iyanla.com/ The video Ruth mentioned about “Imposter Syndrome”, featuring Reshma Saujani: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoHDDgeQtlc Ruth’s website – sign up to her mailing list to find out when you can next access her free course: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/ Robbie’s 12-Minute Method: https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

George Warren describes “growth through discomfort” as a key theme in his life and in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, he lays down a challenge to the coaching industry to step out of its comfort zone and explore questions that might challenge the very foundations of our work. While many of us place the principles of being client-led and non-directive at the centre of our practice, George views coaching through a lens of universal interconnectedness where there is always more than one voice to consider. Drawing upon Gestalt psychology, Eastern mysticism and his experiences as a solo traveller in the Middle East, George’s work highlights the unique role coaching can play in finding answers to some of society’s most pressing questions, from global conflicts to the loneliness epidemic. In this conversation with host Neil Mackinnon, George describes how his innate emotional sensitivity became a “nuclear reactor”, fuelling him along a path from the world of luxury travel sales to the cultivation of a deeper connection with the environment through coaching. In this episode, George and Neil also talk about: The complimentary tools of support and challenge Why George believes coaches do not need a niche How supervision can become “an amphitheatre of profound learning” The “beautiful gift” of ignorance when working with new clients George ends this episode by placing coaching at a fascinating crossroads, describing contrasting futures that might lie ahead depending on the choices we all make in the coming years. - Coaching for Performance by Sir John Whitmore - https://www.performanceconsultants.com/resources/coaching-for-performance-book/ - The GROW Model - https://www.performanceconsultants.com/resources/the-grow-model/ - Animas - https://www.animascoaching.com/ - Anita Rolls (https://careerintelligenceacademy.com/about-us/) and Karen Smart (https://www.aoec.com/author-page/karen-smart-author/) at AOEC - AoEC https://www.aoec.com/ - ILM https://www.i-l-m.com/ ICF https://coachingfederation.org/ - AC https://www.associationforcoaching.com/ - EMCC https://emccuk.org/Public/default.aspx - The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk https://www.besselvanderkolk.com/resources/the-body-keeps-the- score - AOCS https://www.linkedin.com/company/aocs-association-of-coaching- supervisors/ - Myles Downey on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/69-myles-downey-what-is-effective-coaching-performance-coaching-when-to-be-directive-changing-clients-maps-of-reality-and-more - Ian McGilchrist https://channelmcgilchrist.com/ - The Edge of Coaching https://edgeofcoaching.substack.com/ - George Warren Coaching https://www.georgewarrencoaching.com/ - BACP Article https://www.bacp.co.uk/bacp-journals/coaching- today/january-2024/where-is-the-humanity/ - Coaching in the Climate Crisis, Association for Coaching https://www.associationforcoaching.com/page/CITCC_podcast_ser ies - CCA climate coaching - This this might be the AoEC Certificate in Climate Coaching https://www.aoec.com/programmes/certificate-climate-coaching/ - Hetty Einzig https://hettyeinzig.co.uk/

In this episode, the third in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business, Robbie and Ruth slow down and take a deep dive into perhaps the most powerful step in the Flywheel for taking control of the future of your coaching business. That is: making offers and, in particular, offering people the opportunity to experience you more. Robbie explains why giving people opportunities to experience you makes your sales easier and easier, and shares stories about how to give people the most undiluted, pure experience of you. If you’re feeling stuck or hopeless in your business, this is the episode for you. We cover: Practical ways you can offer people opportunities to experience you more. How powerful inviting people into coaching conversations can be and how to do that with integrity. How a conversation on a training course took Robbie out of scarcity in his business and got him into action. The pitfalls and doubts that we run into when making offers to people, and why we shouldn’t listen to them. Listen to the first episode in this series, giving an overview of the Flywheel and why it matters here:  https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business And listen to the second, about using connections to create coaching clients here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals The next episode will be out in a few weeks - sign up to our mailing list here to be the first to hear about it. https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/subscribe To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business The second episode in the series, focusing on Connecting with People: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel The Prosperous Coach and Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/book/ Brené Brown: https://brenebrown.com/ Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach Robbie’s 12-Minute Method: https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method Allegra Stein on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-22-allegra-stein-how-to-flourish-as-a-coaching-misfit Lindsey Lewis on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent Joel Monk (Coaches Rising) on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Minor Arias on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56 Steve Chandler: https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html Carolyn Freyer Jones: https://carolynfreyerjones.com/ The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

In this episode, taken from Robbie’s appearance on Aly King-Smith’s A Listening Life podcast, Robbie gives one of his most most concentrated downloads ever on everything he knows about growing a coaching business. In particular, Robbie and Aly cover: Why, despite being a prolific writer and producer of content, Robbie thinks content creation is a terrible way to grow a coaching business. How Robbie reframed proposals and pitching to an opportunity to practice, and the difference that can make. A deep-dive into pricing and money, including how Robbie started from £30 per session and how he grew from there. The Coaching Business Flywheel - to see a diagram of Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel This episode is packed with practical advice and personal anecdotes from Robbie’s journey in the coaching industry. Whether you're a new coach or an experienced practitioner, Robbie's insights on pricing, client acquisition, and content creation offer valuable lessons for building a sustainable and profitable coaching business. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ For more information about Aly and A Listening Life, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/alykingsmith/ and https://open.spotify.com/episode/6wGHaf6oeebH6qFbTwZHsy?si=ciFxJttsRa64Poo_qmIvyA Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The 12 Minute Method: https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method Joel Monk: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Rich Litvin and The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/book/ Steven Pressfield and The War of Art: https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/ Jim Collins on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/ Good to Great by Jim Collins: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Good-Great-Some-Companies-Others/dp/0066620996 Turning the Flywheel by Jim Collins: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Turning-Flywheel-Monograph-Accompany-Great/dp/0062933795 Brené Brown on Teddy Roosevelt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JXOnFOXQk&t=0s RUNNING ORDER ~5m - Realizing Coaching Could Be a Commercial Success ~8m - Setting Initial Coaching Rates ~10m - The 90 Day Money Game ~12m - Increasing Proposal Amounts ~13m - Overcoming Internal Dialogue and Resistance~14m - The Importance of Making Proposals ~16m - Learning from Pitching and Proposals ~20m - Overcoming Fear of Rejection ~21m - Creating Content and Its Role in Coaching ~22m - Avoiding Procrastination in Business Building ~26m - The Coaching Business Flywheel Concept ~33m - Authenticity in Content Creation ~36m - Direct Invitations vs. Content Creation ~39m - Podcast as a Long-Term Strategy ~42m - Research Projects as an Alternative to Podcasting ~45m - Robbie's Experience with Writing and Podcasting

Ruth Rochelle’s life and career changed when, in 1979, she met Ariana Huffington and took part in the first Insight Seminar ever to happen in the United Kingdom. Ruth describes this moment as her invitation into self-reflection, the start of her career, and the time when she started to become the leader in her own life. In Café Royal on London’s Regent Street, with 100 people – including some famous names – she had an experience she calls mindblowing and heart-opening, revealing deep truths that had previously been hidden from view. In this episode of the Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ruth sheds light on the vast worlds of discovery that opened up to her following that first Insight Seminar, which propelled her into a career as a global facilitator and as a renowned expert on conscious leadership in teams and organisations. Ruth tells host Joey Owen how her remarkable appetite for learning and exploration also led her to study Internal Family Systems, which now underpins her work as an accredited master executive coach, IFS practitioner, systemic team coach and coaching constellations practitioner. In this episode, Ruth and Joey also talk about: Psychosynthesis and other therapeutic models that are harnessed by coaches How to shift from protective behaviours in order to stand up in your authenticity The ripple effect and how it can amplify both our limiting patterns and our effective ones The way systems theory can help us stay in balance and adapt to our current truth Ruth ends the podcast with a truly vital message about the parts of ourselves that we bring to interactions with others and the roles we all have to play in taking humanity forward. For more information about Ruth, visit https://www.ruthrochelle.com/ For more information about host Joey Owen, visit http://www.joeyowencoaching.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: - Ariana Huffington https://www.instagram.com/ariannahuff/?hl=en - Insight Seminars https://insightseminars.org/ - John Roger https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-08-14-vw-882-story.html - Russell Bishop https://russellbishop.com/about - Internal Family Systems https://ifs-institute.com/ - Psychosynthesis Coaching, Auburn Howard https://www.psychosynthesiscoaching.co.uk/ - NLP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming - Results Unlimited https://www.upwork.com/agencies/1140793201640026112/ - Internal Family Systems Therapy by Richard Schwartz https://www.amazon.co.uk/Internal-Family-Systems-Therapy-Guilford/dp/1572302720 - The Leadership Circle https://leadershipcircle.com/leadership-assessment-tools/leadership-circle-profile/ - Robert Kegan and the Immunity to Change model https://www.gse.harvard.edu/hgse100/story/changing-better#:~:text=Based%20on%2030%20years%20of,distortions%20that%20keep%20you%20from - AOAC master systems coach https://www.aoac.org/aoac-training-courses/ - Third Space https://www.thirdspace.london/ BIOGRAPHY FROM RUTH For more than 25 years Ruth has been a coach – an executive and team coach, workshop facilitator, transformational coach and coach supervisor – with private clients and with organisations. Ruth is an Accredited Master Executive Coach with APECS, an IFS (Internal Family Systems) Practitioner with the IFS Institute and a Coaching Constellations Practitioner, and her clients have included creative professionals, start-up founders, senior managers, young emerging leaders, celebrities, coaches, and many more. Ruth supports her clients to create and achieve their visions, enrich their relationships, navigate changing circumstances, embark on new life directions, start and grow businesses, address specific challenges, experience greater wellbeing and connect to a meaningful purpose.

In this episode, the second in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business, Robbie and Ruth slow down and take a deep dive into connecting with people. Robbie tells stories about how working with his coaches supported him to develop a connection practice that is authentic to him and supports the growth of his business. They discuss how to connect with others authentically and why connecting with people might in fact be the most fundamental part of a sustainable coaching business. In this episode, we cover: Why you DON’T hate connecting with people to support your coaching business, even if you think you do. How to make it more likely that the connections you make can become clients. The power of tracking your connections to raise your awareness and change your mindset. Tactics for how to talk about your coaching business authentically when people ask you ‘What do you do?’ Listen to the first episode in this series here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business. The next will be out in a few weeks. To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel The Prosperous Coach and Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/book/ Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Steve Chandler: https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html The RSA: https://www.thersa.org/ The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

This episode is a unique chance to get inside a group coaching call with Robbie Swale. In it, you can hear Robbie coaching David Norris, Joey Owen, Hazel Martin and Alex Swallow, exactly as he would in one of his group coaching programmes for coaches or leaders. It demonstrates the way that he runs The Coach's Journey Community, which is his flexible, affordable group coaching programme for coaches, designed to support them to create thriving businesses and thrive as they do that. It shows both the practical value of working in this way and the incredible - almost magical - synchronicity that can emerge in work like this. In particular, we worked together on: How to finish a year strong, when doing so means you have to go against what society expects of you. How to be proud of the way we interact with our children rather than ashamed. Time, boundaries and how not to resent the people we love when they interrupt us. How to be a professional coach when there are many things buffetting us in our personal lives. But most importantly, this gives you a chance to feel the multiple levels of learning available in a group experience as a coach: learning from what the coaches bring as clients and how Robbie coaches them (and what you might do similarly or differently). We hope we might see you on a similar call as part of The Coach’s Journey Community sometime soon - now is a great time to join, as the September and November calls are available to Diamond Members, meaning you can sign up for £20, try it out and if it’s not the right thing for you, cancel any time. Learn more at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ To find out about the other coaches on this episode, visit the links below: David Norris: https://www.davidnorriscoaching.com/ Joey Owen: https://joeyowencoaching.com/ and https://freedomtolearn.org.uk/ Hazel Martin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/hazelmartinexecutivecoaching/ Alex Swallow: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexswallow/ and http://theinfluenceexpert.com/store/ (where you can get Alex's book about influence) Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: Watch the video version of this coaching session and follow us on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANwh_WKq9_Q The David Gemmell story Robbie shared is in full, here: http://www.wisdomofgemmell.com/the-pebble-in-the-moonlight/ The other group coaching call that Robbie mentions is on YouTube is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBvAVfZrKQ You can buy the 12-Minute Method books here: https://geni.us/12minutemethodseries The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

The Coaching Business Flywheel is the culmination of Robbie Swale’s seven years of supporting coaches to grow their coaching businesses and five years of interviewing coaches on this podcast. It is his attempt to take all that work and answer the question: how do you grow a coaching business? In this episode, the first in a series exploring this question and model, Robbie and Ruth slow down to explain how the Flywheel can support you in creating an authentic, sustainable coaching business. Robbie shares the origin of The Coaching Business Flywheel, and why he thinks this is an important contribution to the field, including what he got wrong when he first delivered talks and workshops about flywheels and coaching businesses. In this episode, we cover: The five fundamental things you HAVE to do as a coach if you want a sustainable business (and why no coach can have a business without them). How a flywheel can be used to create a virtuous cycle in any business, and what that looks like for coaches. Why this isn’t six easy steps to six figures in six months. Why practising each element on the Flywheel is desirable regardless of the business outcomes. The next episode in the series will be out in a couple of weeks. To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Robbie’s solo podcast episode about The Coach’s Journey Community and Group Coaching Programmes: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-new-work-group-coaching-tcj-communty Robbie’s solo podcast episode about using The 12-Minute Method to grow your coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-35-robbie-swale-12-minute-method Robbie’s solo podcast episode bringing together videos about the nuts and bolts of a coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-structure-first-conversations-marketing-price Robbie’s solo podcast episode bringing together videos about the three key stages of a coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-12-robbie-on-three-of-the-most-important-parts-of-growing-a-coaching-business-commitment-creating-it-and-doing-your-own-work Jim Collins on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/ The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/book/ Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Phil Bolton on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders Robbie on The Coaching Inn with Claire Pedrick: https://podtail.com/podcast/the-coaching-inn/s4-episode-11-business-builder-for-coaches-the-coa/ Robbie’s video about The Prosperous Coach Flywheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2FkyWOIGeQ Robbie’s talk for Henley Business School Marketing Group for Coaches: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/72-creating-clients-and-cultivating-confidence-a-deep-dive-into-coaching-business-growth-robbie-at-the-henley-business-school-coaching-marketing-group The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Does the coaching industry privilege the boardroom over the community? And is the intrinsic value of our work reflected in our earnings? What is the potential impact coaching can have in communities that often have less access to coaches? These questions and many more are explored in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, by host Alex Whitton and his guest, Association for Coaching master-accredited coach Mark Bixter. Mark has applied his coaching skills in a wide variety of settings, working with people who are often unable to access coaching, including in prisons and with those in underprivileged communities. In this episode Mark reflects on how he has created a sustainable and accessible coaching business that aligns with his values and the dialogue that is needed about who is and who is not being served by our profession. When people hear the words “coach” or “life coach”, they often imagine a person who has achieved some kind of perfect alignment and lives in total harmony with the world. But like many coaches, Mark arrived at the profession following a tumultuous period of his life, and his journey is both relatable and moving. A former actor and food critic and an accredited celebrant, Mark reflects on the ways all aspects of his life have informed his strengths as a listener and also his growth areas, such as challenging his clients when they need it. In this episode, Mark and Alex also talk about: • How coaching is a shared learning journey between client and coach • The ‘Three Cs’ framework for coaching: contracting, competence and clients’ best interest • The unique potential of coaching to help people access other forms of help and support • What to do when you don’t know where your work is going to come from • The interplay between coaching and mental health • How our experiences as coaches show up in other aspects of our lives, from parenting to friendships Mark also discusses the conversations and social media posts that enabled him to make the shift from coaching people he already knew to bringing in clients from beyond his existing network. For links to many of the things we talked about in this episode, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/74-mark-bixter-to-see-the-true-value-of-coaching-look-beyond-the-fees

As the world untangles itself from the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic, there is important healing work to be done. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, trauma-informed wellbeing and resilience coach Jackee Holder maps out the impact of events on our collective consciousness, and points the way forward for our profession. A true coaching trailblazer, Jackee was among the very first black coaches in the UK and become one of the first black British authors to publish in the self-help genre when she released Soul Purpose in 1999. From earning her degree in government and politics, Jackee moved into youth and community work, where the quality of listening she received from a supervisor altered her perspective on her own career. Preferring to describe herself as “a human who gets to be on purpose” than as a coach, Jackee’s work is currently focused on the therapeutic benefits of journaling and expressive writing. This work has taken her into her zone of genius, and she describes the remarkable changes that manifest when we are in alignment with our work. Jackee opens up about her journey to becoming a successful author, leadership coach and coach supervisor, reflecting on the hardships and the breakthroughs that shaped her remarkable life and career. In this episode, Jackee and host Ruth Saville also talk about: ·      How journaling can be harnessed as a growth process ·      Moving into coaching without throwing out your old career ·      How to skilfully navigate how you show up in the world without losing your sense of identity ·      Ways to amplify the work you do in your own time: your personal reading, learning and podcast consumption Jackee also generously shares advice and guidance to anyone interested in becoming a trauma-informed coach, and suggests key reading that can act as a springboard into this work. For links to many of the things we talked about in this episode, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/73-jackee-holder-trauma-informed-coaches-have-never-been-more-needed

In this episode, Robbie was hosted by the Henley Business School Marketing Group for Coaches, where he shares his personal transition from feeling like a newcomer to fully embracing his identity as a coach. In his talk and the questions that follow, Robbie uses philosopher Ken Wilber's analogy of enlightenment being akin to having an accident – something you can't force but can become prone to – to set the stage for his approach to making oneself ‘client-prone’ in the coaching business. While you can't make a client to say yes, there are strategies to increase the likelihood that you will accidentally find yourself with a client. In this episode, Robbie covers: The Prosperous Coach Flywheel, and how it can create a virtuous cycle that naturally leads to a growing coaching practice. The importance of creating a body of work, which serves as a powerful tool for connecting with potential clients before they even meet you and how to use the 12-Minute Method to make a body of work without it being time-consuming. How to navigate money conversations with confidence and integrity, ensuring that clients understand the value of the coaching experience. Transitioning from gifted sessions to paid clients. The session concludes with an audience Q&A, and among many things what comes across is that Robbie's approach to coaching is deeply rooted in authenticity, service, and a commitment to personal growth – both for himself and his clients. To read Robbie’s latest thinking on Flywheels and coachings businesses, including his newly designed The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN: Robbie’s 100 Podcasts Challenge: https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge Robbie’s 12-Minute Article: The Second Best Time is Now: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/15/the-second-best-time-is-now Robbie’s 12-Minute Article: The Lost Relics of our Art: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/4/the-lost-relics-of-our-art Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel Ken Wilber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber Jamie Dru: https://www.jamiedru.com/ Robbie on Jamie’s podcast, The Career Climb: https://www.jamiedru.com/post/climb-08-robbieswale Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey (first appearance): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/book/ Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching BetterUp: https://www.betterup.com/ Elizabeth Gilbert and her book Big Magic: https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/ Giovanna Cappozza on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza The 12-Minute Method: https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method Druss the Legend: https://davidgemmell.fandom.com/wiki/Druss David Gemmell: http://www.wisdomofgemmell.com/ Jim Collins on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/ RUNNING ORDER ~7m - Robbie's Journey to Becoming a Coach~9m - Making Yourself "Client Prone" ~9m - The Five Habits for Growing a Coaching Business ~10m - Exploring Creativity and Overcoming Challenges ~11m - The Importance of Skilled Coaches in the World ~12m - Robbie's Experience and Earnings as a Coach ~13m - The Influence of "The Prosperous Coach" Book ~15m - The Concept of a Flywheel in Business Growth ~19m - The Prosperous Coach Flywheel Explained ~22m - Detailed Breakdown of the Prosperous Coach Flywheel ~25m - How to Oil the Flywheel for Business Growth ~31m - The Role of a Body of Work in Creating Clients ~31m - The Personal Transformation Through Creating Work ~33m - Susan's Question on Money Conversations ~37m - Strategies for Discussing Coaching Fees ~38m - The 90-Day Money Game Challenge ~39m - The Importance of Creating Powerful Coaching Experiences ~40m - Susan's question on the Value of Coaching ~43m - Xenia's question on Transitioning from Free to Paid Sessions

Marie Quigley approaches coaching in much the same way as she does her passion for global travel: with curiosity, openness and an unquenchable desire to explore. As a Master Certified Coach who has trained with the likes of Brené Brown, Marie can draw upon a wealth of experience and expertise. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast she describes the mindsets and skills that have helped her achieve success as a coach, as a co-founder of coach-training business Empower World, and as co-host of her company’s podcast. Underpinning all of her achievements are the values and wisdom she gained through life-changing moments while travelling the world, and she shares some of the stories that instilled in her a commitment to live in fulfillment – and help her clients do the same. Marie believes that we have something to learn from everyone, and she reflects on the profound learning opportunities that arise when our coaching clients trust us enough to allow us into their inner worlds. In this episode, Marie and host Alex Swallow also talk about: How to distinguish between what our clients want and what we want for them The changing mirrors we present to others as we learn, develop and grow Contracting with clients and how to agree upon ways of working that lead to strong coaching relationships Daring Leadership and Marie’s experience of training with Brené Brown The different approaches required to develop as a coach and to grow your business Marie also shares remarkable techniques she uses in coaching sessions that build attunement through bodily communications and deep listening. For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/71-marie-quigley-living-in-fulfilment-is-a-radical-act-ybxyl

Mike Toller works as a professional coach and psychodynamic psychotherapist, supporting individuals privately and in organisations, and training people to bring coaching skills and mindsets into their personal and professional lives. That makes him the perfect person to answer one of the big questions that coaches ask and get asked: what is the difference between coaching on the one hand, and counselling and psychotherapy on the other? In this new format, an excerpt from Episode #32, you can hear Mike and Robbie exploring that big question. As Robbie says in the introduction to this episode, the clarity of what Mike talks about here has changed how Robbie thinks and talks about the difference between coaching and psychotherapy (and counselling). It just might do that for you, too. Listen back to Episode #32 in full here, for Mike’s story and many amazing ideas and tips for you and your coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller. For more information about Mike, visit https://www.clarenormancoachingassociates.com. For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. BIOGRAPHY FROM MIKE Mike was born in Germany and moved to the UK when he was six years old. He lived in Oxfordshire, Leeds and Norfolk with his parents and three brothers. When he was 19, he studied Linguistics in Cambridge, and then moved to London. Mike first worked for a graduate recruitment startup, then followed a passion for writing and made a leap to publishing, editing travel guides. In his spare time, he put on clubnights for fun and later took the plunge and left his job as an editor to turn the nights into a successful events company. Realising he wanted his work to be more fulfilling and align directly with his values and wider goals, Mike began a process of self-reflection and worked with some amazing mentors, who inspired him to take his career into his own hands and choose a new direction. He made a plan for change, and in 2010 began training as a psychotherapist. Along the way, he decided to develop a portfolio career and trained as a coach in 2014. He also co-founded The Coaching School, a centre of excellence for coaching committed to training and supporting the next generation of outstanding coaches. Mike now works as a professional coach and psychodynamic psychotherapist, supporting individuals privately and in organisations, and training people to bring coaching skills and mindsets into their personal and professional lives.

Myles Downey has been practising coaching for more than 40 years. His book, Effective Modern Coaching, has sold more than 330,000 copies and is a recommended read on many coaching training courses. In this episode, Myles returns for his second appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast, with the questions asked by Robbie and Neil – doubling the hosts in order to double the insight! We dive deep into the nuances of coaching, exploring themes of self-actualisation, performance, and the delicate balance between directive and non-directive coaching, leveraging Myles’ experience coaching senior executives and leadership teams across the globe. This episode coincides with the release of a new edition of Effective Modern Coaching, which has enabled him to fine-tune everything he has learned about effective coaching over the last 40 years, including through founding The School of Coaching in 1996, the first institution in Europe to focus solely on the development of coaching skills for coaches, managers and leaders. The episode is a treasure trove of insights for new and experienced coaches alike. Myles' wisdom provides a deep dive into the art and science of coaching. Whether you're a seasoned coach or just starting your journey, this episode offers valuable perspectives on how to elevate your practice and truly make a difference in your clients' lives. In particular, we talk about: Pushing back against the culture contagion of compliance: how we get engineered in society and lose the capacity to trust ourselves. Performance coaching and self-actualisation: how to align personal expression with professional performance. Tim Gallwey’s Inner Game and its influence on Myles and Neil, including diving into Gallwey’s Self One and Self Two. Construing, constructs and creating our maps of reality (and how non-directive coaching makes all the difference). ‘Transcend and include’ as an underpinning principle in our development as coaches and that of our clients. Proposing: the delicate balance required to offer suggestions to our clients without imposing them. Plus, we talk about whether the shine has come off coaching and other changes Myles has noticed over his decades in the industry, and Neil invites Myles to get into the business-building parts of his work: how he structures engagements, how his sales process looks and more... To listen to Myles’ first appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey For more information about Myles, visit www.mylesdowney.com or find him on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/mylesdowney For more information about Robbie Swale, visit www.robbieswale.com and for more information about Neil Mackinnon, visit www.neilmackinnon.net. Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): Myles' previous appearance on The Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey Myles on The Edge of Coaching Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0EWTGZa8XnMF1n13Q76wSr?si=YF9zAEILScCunFai85RIaQ The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inner-Game-Tennis-ultimate-performance/dp/1447288505/ The Inner Game of Music by Timothy Gallwey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inner-Game-Music-Timothy-Gallwey/dp/1447291727 The new edition of Effective Modern Coaching: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Effective-Modern-Coaching-principles-successful/dp/191595116X/ David Clutterbuck: https://clutterbuck-cmi.com/ Aristotle Onassis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle_Onassis Enabling Genius by Myles Downey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Enabling-Genius-Myles-Downey/dp/1910649538 Academy of Executive Coaching: https://www.aoec.com/ Mihaily Csikszentmihaly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihaly_Csikszentmihalyi Roberto Assagioli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Assagioli The Craftsman by Richard Sennett: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Craftsman-Richard-Sennett/dp/0141022094 Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both The Prosperous Coach book: https://richlitvin.com/book/ BIOGRAPHY FROM MYLES Myles Downey is one of the leading executive coaches in Europe, with global experience (Europe, North and South America, Asia-Pacific, UAE). He has worked across the C-suite in many prestigious organisations over the last 30 years, in a wide variety of industries, including Banking and Financial Services, Manufacturing, Oil and Gas, Professional Services, Tech and the Public Sector. Myles is a recognized authority on Performance, Coaching and Leadership and the author of three classics in the coaching and performance arena: ‘Effective Modern Coaching’, ‘Effective Coaching’ (between them 300,00+ books sold); ‘Enabling Genius – a mindset for success in the 21st Century’; ‘The Enabling Manager - how to get the best out of your team’ published in July 2022. Myles has deployed his performance coaching programs with the Senior Coaches of the England Rugby Team and with the New Zealand Elite Rugby Coaches. Myles has been a speaker at many leadership conferences, including the BBC’s Conference for its top 400 senior executives, the McKinsey Global Partners Conference in Singapore and the ICF Global Conference in Malmo, to name a few. After 33 years living in London, Myles now lives in Norfolk, England. He was born in Dublin, Ireland in 1959. Myles plays for Norfolk Veterans Tennis team and competes occasionally on the ITF Masters Tour.

Clare Norman is a master certified coach with the International Coaching Federation, whose latest book, The Transformational Coach, maps out a journey to coaching mastery that begins with unlearning the old beliefs and mindsets that are not serving you or your clients, in order to reset and replace them with a new set of thought patterns. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Clare shares some brutally honest financial advice for coaches and talks through the developments in contracting, process and values that helped her go from coaching internally in a large corporation to building and running her own business as a coach, coach trainer and supervisor. Clare also flies the flag for mentor coaching, telling host Neil Mackinnon why she believes it is the best way for a coach to “sharpen their edge”, and she generously shares wisdom on how new coaches can successfully position themselves in a fast-changing industry. In this episode, Clare and Neil also talk about: Getting your name ‘out there’ as an independent coach Why coaching bodies matter and what they can do for us How to lead an ethically sound, mentally healthy coaching practice The power of experiencing different organisational cultures and their values Achieving sustained change through shifting mindsets rather thanskillsets Clare also shares examples of the unhelpful mindsets we, as coaches, need to unlearn in order to be of service to our clients and ourselves (there are a total of 83 of these mindsets listed in her book!). For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-68-clare-norman-glimmers-of-hope-structuring-a-coaching-business-and-unlearning-mindsets-on-the-journey-to-coaching-mastery

Is the mass-marketisation of coaching de-valuing the practice? Or does widening access to coaching help everyone? Tori Jeffers is a Professional Certified Coach who has amassed over 1,000 hours of experience in just three years. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast she explores the shifts in the coaching landscape that are transforming the industry. After spending more than a decade pursuing her passion for conservation, which took her to Madagascar and the Amazon to work with sea turtles, sharks and monkeys, Tori found herself in a battle with burnout. In conversation with Ruth, Tori describes how the roots of her coaching career reach all the way back to her first job in conservation and a manager who shared approaches and tools that made a lasting impact. Tori discusses her current coaching work with BetterUp, reflecting on the experience of coaching through an organisation rather than establishing a private practice, and also explains how she co-founded and organisation that supports emerging environmental leaders.  In this episode, Tori and Ruth also talk about: Contracting and how it is the answer to everything Questioning the urge to help others, and asking what we might be denying them Our ‘beetle shells’ – the defences we put up in order to get through challenging times The balance between empathy and sanity The importance – and difficulty – of building a network Giving yourself permission not to be busy Tori also shares the highly impactful books she wishes she had read earlier in her coaching career, and speaks about how she intends to grow her client base while continuing to inspire improvements in environmental leadership. For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-67-tori-jeffers-who-wins-and-who-loses-as-coaching-goes-mainstream

Would you like to have more fun while still working in your zone of genius? Are you concerned you might need to shake things up to avoid becoming a boring coach? Ruth Saville’s advice to coaches everywhere – including herself – is: misbehave more. Listen to your inner rebel. Dance in the moment and create systems that work for you. Since the COVID-19 pandemic forced Ruth to step back from her successful performing arts franchise and examine the toll her work was taking on her life, she has followed her inner seeker into the world of personal development and coaching. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ruth takes Robbie back to the small towns in the north of England where they both grew up, retracing the steps of a life and career that began with a focus on helping people to express themselves through dance, theatre and music. Ruth, who is one of the new hosts of this podcast as well as her own show, Women of a Certain Age, is now focusing on working with emerging leaders in all fields, having arrived in her zone of genius, taken her own approach to mastery, and become anything other than boring.  In this episode, Ruth and Robbie also talk about: Big hairy audacious goals (BHAGs) Cults, pyramid schemes and other perilous industry pitfalls How to accept who you are, in order to know what you can do Ways to market yourself without exploiting others Taking a step back to spot the signs of burnout Ruth also grapples with the models and methodologies that can fuel or frustrate new coaches and unpacks problems that have plagued certain sections of the coaching industry, making important distinctions about the ways in which different practitioners work. For more information about Ruth, visit https://www.daretorise.co.uk/ . For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/. Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - You Will Be Found from Dear Evan Hansen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq9FlLVh6yg - Gretchen Rubin and the Four Tendencies: https://courses.gretchenrubin.com/4tc/ and her book Better Than Before - Gallup coaching https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/253958/become-coach.aspx - GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Claire Pedrick and Lucia Baldelli on The Coach’s Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-55-claire-pedrick-and-lucia-baldelli-the-human-behind-the-coach - Barefoot Coaching https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/ - The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-big-leap-gay-hendricks?variant=32205677625378 - Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/ - Animas https://www.animascoaching.com/ Marianne Craig on The Coach’s Journey Podcast - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-10-marianne-craig-founding-firework-question-everything-where-were-coaches-when-banks-went-down - Co-active Training Institute https://coactive.com/ - Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/ - Kim Morgan on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan - Brene Brown on The Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2015/08/28/brene-brown-on-vulnerability-and-home-run-ted-talks/ - Mel Robbins: https://www.melrobbins.com/ - Rachel Hollis: https://msrachelhollis.com/ - Ruth's podcast, Women of a Certain Age: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/podcast - Ruth's blog on perimenopause: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/blog/an-enforced-perimeno-pause - The Lighthouse scandal: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65175712 - Ruth's instagram post and the picture of her aged 20: https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct1HvaYIQfd/ BIOGRAPHY FROM RUTH Ruth is a leadership and business coach who specialises in working with emerging leaders. With 20+ years experience of being self employed she is also an entrepreneur, having grown and scaled a successful franchise business. After 16 years Ruth decided to sell this business to allow her to work full time as a coach. With an extensive background in arts education and a self confessed personal development fanatic, she brings all this experience together to offer her clients transformational coaching. Her practice is made up of an eclectic mix of private clients, organisational and corporate work as well as supervision and coach skills training. Recently Ruth has also been working with new coaches, focusing on developing both themselves and their businesses.  She is comfortable working in a high challenge, high trust relationship and has been described as a down to earth Northerner, a title she is more than happy with! She brings a sense of humour and a light touch to her work, which she sees as a valuable tool in the coaching relationship. Ruth firmly believes that the idea of play, fun and creativity can create an expansive and transformational coaching environment.

A quarter-life crisis is a period of intense soul searching that arrives when we are first confronted with the question of what to do with our lives. That’s according to Chloë Garland, the founder of QuarterLife, a company that works with individuals and organisations to help people in their 20s and 30s not just survive, but thrive. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Chloë sheds light on the generational shifts that have prolonged adolescence, and how many of us encounter our first truly meaningful life choices in our mid or late 20s. Chloë tells host Alex Whitton how studying philosophy encouraged her to ponder life’s big questions, and how in her first coaching session – at age 22 – she was asked questions she had never considered before. That session left Chloë feeling ignited, and she describes the unusual experience of being called into coaching at a young age, knowing she had a gift for conversations but perhaps unaware of the profound impact she would have on the lives of young people she would meet along the way. In this episode, Chloë and Alex also talk about: • Living emergently, holding goals lightly, and embracing opportunities as they arise • The jam donut principle of purpose and presence • The power of metaphors and fables to simplify complex ideas • Psychodemographics, and how to find your niche • The value of shared experience in coaching, and the importance of owning your story Chloë also shares some hugely valuable lessons on growing a coaching business, reflecting on investments, outsourcing, and how the fear of success can be as much of a hindrance as the fear of failure. For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-65-chloe-garland-the-jam-donut-principle-quarter-life-crises-and-the-philosophy-of-coaching

The question of what makes a life well-lived is at the heart of Alex Whitton’s work, both as a coach and as the CEO of a charity that supports young people to realise their potential. In this episode of the Coach’s Journey Podcast, Alex tells Robbie about the story of his career so far, from studying at Oxford University, to his volunteer work with young people, to running a social enterprise and then deciding to become a coach. He describes how he emerged from a mindset of scarcity into one of abundance and opportunity as he came to recognise his strengths as a coach, which were cultivated through his work with Universify and the MOE Foundation. Alex shares insights into how he has built his coaching business alongside his work with Universify, and also how he is fulfilling his childhood ambition of becoming an author. He speaks about the fundamental importance of authenticity, vulnerability and creativity – principles that underpin his writing practice as well as his work as a coach and CEO.  In this episode, Alex and Robbie also talk about: - Stories, memories and listening for insight - How coaching skills can empower young people throughout their lives - The power of someone taking your dreams seriously - Taking a bigger-picture view, in order to see your own abundance - A highly effective way to invite people to be coached and enhance your agency as a coach Alex also offers a refreshing approach to framing conversations with prospective clients, capturing the spirit of co-creation in a way that has universal appeal. For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-64-alex-whitton-balancing-the-being-and-the-doing

Jo Wright admits she had to get her dad’s permission before deciding on No More Sh*t Managers: Seven Steps to a Coaching Culture as the title of her book. Thankfully he agreed and the book has made Jo a bestselling Amazon UK author as her message about the power of a coaching culture spreads to people and organisations around the world. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Jo tells host Alex Swallow about the foundational experiences in early life that instilled her with a belief in the positive change that can happen when people have better conversations. She describes the life-changing conversations that have shaped her career, from managing a small team and noticing her flair for mentoring, to co-founding a coaching business and magazine that helped propel the industry forward by creating digital coaching solutions. Jo’s book is a love letter to humanity, and what shines through in this episode is her desire to help as many people as possible, by making sure that coaching – and the life-changing experiences it offers – is for everybody. Having embedded coaching cultures in some of the world’s biggest organisations, she is succeeding in her aim quite spectacularly.  In this episode, Jo and Alex also talk about: The human development that takes place when training as a coach How far we can go when we’re willing to be vulnerable The fundamental importance of maintaining hope that things can be better The value we invest in ourselves and how our clients experience our personal growth and self-development Jo also shares some invaluable advice about getting your work out into the world, generously opening up about the steps she took to reach her audience. For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-63-jo-wright-we-can-make-things-better-but-we-have-to-do-it-together

When Alex Swallow sees people doing great work, he experiences an almost evangelical urge to help bring others into connection with that work. His ability to do just that, and to boldly spread the reach of ideas, initiatives and projects worth championing, led him to become The Influence Expert – a coach and thought leader who helps individuals, companies and institutions to grow and deepen their impact on the world. Alex is also one of the new hosts of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, and this episode is a chance to hear about the journey he has been on, from being the first in his family to go to university, to becoming the chief executive of a national charity, and to writing his first book, How To Become an Influencer. The conversation between Alex and Robbie explores influence, authenticity, and the philosophies and principles that shape our view of the world and the work we do in it. Alex shares insights into how he has used social media to great effect in his career, and how he has carefully aligned himself with communities of people who are fuelling the next steps of his career as a coach, influencer and writer.  In this episode, Alex and Robbie also talk about: The ‘golden threads’ in our experiences that lead us into the future How humans get trapped by simple stories, and how that can limit our view of the world The importance of agency, and how we can give it back to our clients Why, how and when you might be a better coach than even the most experienced practitioners in the industry Feedback, and how communities can enrich our practice Alex also speaks about the new book he is collaborating on, which is tantalisingly focused on a particular method for getting clients. For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-62-alex-swallow-life-is-better-when-we-choose

This episode is sponsored by Heyday: https://heyday.xyz/ New developments in artificial intelligence make the news headlines so often that many people – including coaches and their clients – are wondering just how AI advances will affect their jobs, their careers and their lives. In this sponsored episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, AI expert Samiur Rahman offers a rare insight into the way machine learning is shaping the future of coaching by fuelling the creation of tools that can save coaches time and improve their productivity. Samiur is the co-founder of Heyday, an AI thought partner that helps coaches and other knowledge workers by generating automatic session notes, detecting patterns in client conversations, and aggregating information about clients. In conversation with Robbie, Samiur opens up about the impact coaching has had on his journey through a career in which he has founded two start-ups and worked in others, and how he sought out the coaches who could bring out the very best in him. He also describes the development process that led to Heyday’s creation, which involved careful consultation with coaches and produced revelations about the way practitioners work and their most pressing needs. In this episode, Samiur and Robbie also talk about: The power of coaching for new managers and founders alike How the coaching we need changes at different stages of our careers The ways AI and machine learning are likely to disrupt the world of work and the coaching industry (and the ways they aren’t) What strange and admirable qualities coaches have, from the perspective of someone who has studied them as customers. Samiur also describes how Heyday, which offers a free two-week trial to all new sign-ups, has changed the lives and work of coaches who use it, and the impact upon their clients. For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-61-samiur-rahman-ai-heyday-and-the-quest-to-capture-meaningful-moments

Despite being told that one day coaching would lead her to burn out, Katie Harvey has discovered that the opposite is true: coaching gives her energy. Now into her third decade as a coach, Katie has carefully honed a practice that enriches her life and allows her to express her core values through her work, and in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, she explains how she did it. Katie reflects on how coaching has helped her to move beyond a binary view of the world in order to sit more comfortably with seemingly conflicting truths, such life being both painful and beautiful, or people being both loveable and difficult. This is Katie’s third time as a guest on the podcast, and host Joey Owen helps her unpack the story of the years since her first appearance, over four years ago, and her second, which came at the height of the coronavirus pandemic. Alongside her work with individual clients and with leaders, and the coaching she delivers at Coach U and London Business School, we were excited to hear Katie is finally writing the book she speaks about in her first appearance on the podcast, which she hopes will bring her into more connection with coaches and help them achieve a sense of integration. In this episode, Katie and Joey also talk about: Optimising energy for coaching by paying attention to the four pillars of self-care Supervision, listening partners, and the tools and aids that help coaches develop space, time and improvements in their practice The ways in which coaching is shaping the future in educational spaces The love that runs through our work, and the boundaries that allow us to work with love How to identify our core values, through the activities that express our essence Katie also generously shares the changes she has made to her pricing structure and the rationale that has helped her reach a place of comfort and fulfilment. For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-60-katie-harvey-beyond-the-binary-lies-balance

Joey Owen is a coach whose unique gifts allow her to connect with the humanity of her clients. Joey ’s formative training in drama and in theatre for development instilled her with the ability to unlock people’s innate creativity and confidence. With that skill she has enriched the lives around the world, helping individuals, organisations and communities to thrive. Joey is part of the new team of hosts at The Coach’s Journey Podcast, but in this episode she answers Robbie’s questions about her remarkable life and career, describing the adventure-driven steps that led her from training in theatre for development to founding Freedom To Learn, a charity that improves access to education for children in India and Nepal. She describes how the foundational listening skills and work around confidence that helped her to transform communities in rural Asia now underpin her work as a coach, and how spiritual practices she developed in India allow her to connect deeply with people from all walks of life.  In this episode, Joey and Robbie also talk about: How to access a deeper sense of connectedness and to work from the heart The creative processes that we can use to build confidence Insight Seminars, and the courses that can reveal our natural coaching abilities Lead generation tools for new coaches to use when building their business The way our work ripples out from our clients, to the benefit of everyone around them (including us!) Joey also shares the daily rituals that keep her steady in her work and help her to develop a profound sense of empathy and connection with her clients. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Mike Toller on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller - Robbie’s website www.robbieswale.com - Joey’s website www.joeyowencoaching.com - Freedom To Learn https://freedomtolearn.org.uk/ - Insight Seminars https://www.insightseminarsuk.com/ - Tom Flatau https://team-working.com - The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler https://richlitvin.com/book/ - Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum - Ben Carter https://www.bencartercoaching.com/ - Strategic Intervention Coaching Certifications: https://rmtcenter.com/certification-programs/ - Tony Robbins on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2014/10/15/money-master-the-game/ - The Tony Robbins documentary Robbie mentioned: https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80102204 - Lamda exams: https://www.lamda.ac.uk/lamda-exams/our-exams - The Choir guy from TV who was mentioned! Gareth Malone: https://www.garethmalone.com/ - Forest Arts Centre: https://www.forest-arts.co.uk/ - Forum Theatre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_theatre - Cardboard Citizens: https://cardboardcitizens.org.uk/ - ERSF:  https://ersf.org.uk - The December Episode where Joey talks about Indra's Net: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-56-introducing-the-new-hosts-ushering-in-the-future-of-the-coachs-journey - Indra's Net: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net - Joey's Bark Profile - https://www.bark.com/en/gb/company/joey-owen-coaching/RvZ2l/ - Chris Joseph on the Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph - SGI: https://sgi-uk.org/ - SGI's introduction to chanting page: https://sgi-uk.org/Intro - Tina Turner's book, Happiness Becomes You: https://www.waterstones.com/book/happiness-becomes-you/tina-turner//9780008398637 - I Heart https://iheartprinciples.com/ - Henrietta Nelson on The Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-46-henrietta-nelson-nobody-else-can-put-a-feeling-in-you - The chanting audio on Apple Podcasts that Joey mentions: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/nam-myoho-renge-kyo/1391365531?i=139136 BIOGRAPHY FROM JOEY Joey is a fully qualified Theatre for Development Practitioner (MA), Applied Drama and Community Coach (BA Hons) and LAMDA drama teacher (LLAM). Certified as a Strategic Intervention (SI) Coach with the Coaching Institute, she has 20 years experience in the education and development sectors as a facilitator and coach in the UK, Europe and South Asia. Alongside her private coaching practice she is also Programmes Director at Freedom to Learn, an NGO working in South Asia Nepal, improving access to and quality of education for children from vulnerable backgrounds.

Coaching found Julie Starr without her looking for it, and she started to practice coaching before she knew what it was. As a project manager of large-scale change initiatives in big organisations, Julie was someone who people naturally turned to with problems ­– often complex, personal matters that required care and attention to their inner world. Julie acquired skills to enhance her ability to perform this role; tools like neuro-linguistic programming helped her to navigate one-to-one work, and also prepared her for the future that awaited her. At a time when coaching qualifications had yet to be developed, Julie began writing a book that would help people understand the one-to-one work she was doing. That book is The Coaching Manual and it is now in its fifth edition, having garnered critical acclaim from the likes of Sir John Whitmore, widely regarded as the founder of the coaching industry. Julie, now an executive coach, mentor, writer and speaker, has since written two more best-selling books on coaching as well as two works of fiction, all of which are inspired by her belief in the interdependency of people, and by her passionate enquiry into the nature of reality.  In this episode, we also talk about: Not allowing models and frameworks to become limiting factors in our work as coaches The power of non-attachment and the importance of working joyfully Staying true to ourselves, and resisting the temptation to climb a ladder that is against somebody else’s wall How to charge what you would be delighted with but not amazed by How to pursue the pathways that make sense to you in a turbulent, disorienting world We also discuss the biggest challenge we face as coaches: the inner and outer work we have to do to get ourselves out of the way in conversations. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Neuro-linguistic programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming - Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ - Richard Bandler and John Grinder https://www.pocketbook.co.uk/blog/2017/08/01/john-grinder-and-richard-bandler-nlp-neuro-linguistic-programming/ - Milton Erickson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson - Effective Coaching by Myles Downey https://pocketwisdom.blog/2022/08/10/effective-coaching-by-myles-downey/ - Coaching for Performance by Sir John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/coaching-for-performance-book - Co-active Coaching https://coactive.com/about/what-is-coactive - The GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Tim Gallwey https://www.performanceconsultants.com/tim-gallwey - Writing coach Marcia Yudkin https://www.yudkin.com/index.htm - Eloise Cook https://reedsy.com/eloise-cook - Kim Morgan on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan - The Institute of Self-Actualisation https://isaexperience.wordpress.com/ - Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum - The Journey https://home.thejourney.com/ - Joe Dispenza https://drjoedispenza.com/ - Julie’s first non-fiction book, From Magic to Memphis https://starrcoaching.co.uk/introducing-julies-debut-novel-magic-to-memphis/ - Truth Keeper, book one, by Julie Starr https://www.linkedin.com/posts/juliestarrcoach_truth-keeper-book-one-julie-starr-activity-7076863795129655296-cjpg/

Neil Mackinnon describes himself as a curious human, and his curiosity has guided him throughout a remarkable career in which he has been immersed in creative projects, surrounded by creative people, and focussed on creative potential. Crucially, he has also spent a great deal of his life listening and being truly present to what has occurred around him, and these qualities aided a sense of catharsis and newfound aliveness when he first experienced coaching. Neil is one of the new hosts of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, and in this episode he gets to the heart of why coaching has become such a prominent focus of a life in which he has worked as a professional musician, a creative producer for Europe’s largest centre for the arts, and now as a faculty member at the Academy of Executive Coaching. He explains how skilful coaches helped him access the power and potential of coaching to overcome profound challenges in his work, and how coaching appealed to his sense of adventure and his disposition as a man fascinated by all industries, all people, and all walks of life.  In this episode, we also talk about: How to choose a coaching organisation to train with The hidden messages that lie within our resistance to coaching Building autonomy through your locus of control The profound potency of core coaching competencies Coaching as a relational business, in which your network really matters Neil, who has his own podcast called Creative Practice, also speaks to the deeper work of coaching, and the change that becomes possible when we find the courage to step into our shadow. For more information about Neil, visit https://neilmackinnon.net/ For information about Robbie’s wider work, his writing or to buy his books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - The Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/ - The Coach’s Casebook by Kim Morgan and Geoff Watts https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/product/the-coachs-casebook-kim-morgan-geoff-watts-2015/ - Robbie appearing on Neil’s Creative Practice podcast https://creative-practice.net/2021/01/29/robbie-swale-coach/ - Kate Rees - https://www.katereescoaching.com/ - A Job To Love by Alain de Botton https://www.theschooloflife.com/shop/a-job-to-love/ - Designing Your Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Evans https://designingyour.life/the-book/ - Richard Hawley - https://www.frycreative.uk/richard-hawley - Gaylene Gould on Neil’s podcast, Creative Practice https://creative-practice.net/2021/08/12/episode-13-gaylene-gould/ - Link to the art behind Neil on the wall: Jet propulsion library, NASA https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/galleries/visions-of-the-future  - Jude Kelly https://thewowfoundation.com/about-wow/about-jude-kelly - The WOW Foundation https://thewowfoundation.com/ - RD 1st Coaching Training https://relationaldynamics1st.co.uk/ - Theatre People, Greg Jauncey's cultural sector HR Consultancy https://www.theatrepeople.uk/who-are-we - Paul Williamson from The Ambassador Theatre Group https://www.associationforcoaching.com/members/?id=52110032 - ABC Creative Music https://www.abcmusic.org.uk/ - InterMusica https://www.intermusica.com/ - Jerry Seinfeld on The Tim Ferris Show https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/485-jerry-seinfeld-a-comedy-legends-systems/id863897795?i=1000501727043 - The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/book/ - Chilly's Water Bottles https://www.chillys.com/uk/categories/bottles - The quote Neil mentions at the end: in his book Reboot, Leadership and the Art of Growing Up, executive coach Jerry Colonna writes about this sort of radical self-inquiry: “I laugh loudly when folks suggest that this is some sort of yoga-inspired soft-bellied call to leadership. ‘Namaste my ass,’ I say with my Brooklyn-born chip firmly, squarely, and proudly on my shoulder. ‘Try entering the cave, walking to the dark recesses, and retrieving the treasure wa-a-a-y in the back. Then come tell me about being soft.’” BIOGRAPHY FROM NEIL Neil is a London-based leadership and executive coach, accredited by the International Coaching Federation and the European Mentoring and Coaching Council. He works with ambitious individuals, leaders and entrepreneurs, across the cultural and creative industries, tech and beyond. He coaches people to fulfill their potential through helping them establish clarity of purpose, supporting personal growth and enabling valued professional contribution and sustained personal fulfilment. Following an early career as a professional musician Neil worked in various management and leaders roles in the cultural and creative sectors, including 12 years at London’s Southbank Centre, Europe’s largest centre for the arts. During his time there he discovered coaching through a transformational experience of working with a coach. This sparked a journey of discovery that led to his initial coach training and building coaching skills into his style of leadership. He now splits his time between his private coaching practice and a part time faculty position at the Academy of Executive Coaching, a leading global coaching organisation offering executive coach training, coaching solutions, executive coaching certification.

What do we do when faced with big decisions about the future? How do we get in touch with our intuition and trust in the choices we make? The Coach’s Journey Podcast has been at a crossroads and in this episode Robbie announces some exciting new developments that will shape its future. He also introduces some very special guests, who are not just guests! These guests – Neil Mackinnon, Joey Owen, Ruth Saville, Alex Swallow and Alex Whitton – are in fact the new team of hosts who will be helping Robbie to evolve The Coach’s Journey Podcast. This evolution includes the podcast becoming fortnightly in 2024, and having five amazing coaches join Robbie in hosting episodes. We all hope these changes will take everything that’s good about The Coach’s Journey and build something even greater on those foundations, helping to deepen our work, reach more people, and serve the coaching community more powerfully and effectively than ever. Each new host has a passion for coaching that is evident in this episode. They know Robbie's work and the podcast inside out, and will bring their own unique approaches to the interviews and guests that feature on the podcast in 2024 and potentially beyond. This episode is a chance to meet the new team, but it’s about much more than that.   In this episode, we also talk about: How to get in touch with your intuition to help you solve problems The power of podcasts to empower us and help us feel less alone Why the Coach’s Journey has mattered so much to each of the team How being on purpose can change our energy about a project Indra's Net and how changing just one person changes the world We also take a journey through the history of the podcast, highlighting each member of the team’s favourite episodes, and reflecting on moments where authenticity, warmth, honesty and ordinary human qualities made the podcast accessible, powerful and meaningful. For more information about our new hosts, use the following links: Alex Swallow: http://alexswallow.com/ Neil Mckinnon: https://neilmackinnon.net/ Ruth Saville: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/ Alex Whitton: https://www.exploregrowbe.com/ Joey Owen: https://joeyowencoaching.com/ For information about Robbie’s wider work, his writing or to buy his books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Robbie on How I Became a Full-Time Coach Less Than Two Years After Starting My Training https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training - Robbie on the Association for Coaching Podcast Marketing series: https://www.associationforcoaching.com/page/Why_Purpose_and_Practice_Creates_Effective_Marketing_with_Robbie_Swale - Amayah Pelegrin - https://www.thefield.consulting/about - Ruth's podcast: Women of a Certain Age https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ruth-saville/episodes/Claire-Eden-on-the-importance-of-failure--sitting-in-discomfort-and-Obliger-Rebellion-e2a8cgb - Neil's podcast: Create Practice https://open.spotify.com/show/3ww01iVMpHRX2BQldamCPc - Alex Swallow's podcast: How to Influence https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/how-to-influence/episodes/What-does-good-look-like-for-you-and-why-e11aggd  - Robert Holden’s Purpose Club https://www.robertholden.com/events/purpose-club/ - Phil Goddard’s podcast, The Coaching Life https://www.philg.com/podcast/ - Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both - Myles Downey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey - Brené Brown’s podcast https://brenebrown.com/podcast-show/unlocking-us/ - The Tim Ferris Show https://tim.blog/podcast/ - Insight Seminars https://insightseminars.org/  - Claire Antrobus https://www.claireantrobus.com/ - Maintenance Phase podcast https://www.maintenancephase.com/ - Conspirituality podcast https://www.conspirituality.net/ - The Athletic Football Tactics Project https://open.spotify.com/show/1o2ZogNQQmPKCntcdKnXPT - The MOE Foundation https://moefoundation.com/ - Catriona Horey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-4-catriona-horey-too-far-away-from-the-joy - Jeffrey Wotherspoon on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-24-jeffrey-wotherspoon - Allegra Stein on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-22-allegra-stein-how-to-flourish-as-a-coaching-misfit FAVOURITE PODCAST EPISODES Neil's favourite episode: episode #5 with James Bianco https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-5-james-bianco-beware-your-simple-stories-about-coaching-success Joey's favourite episodes: episode #1 with Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach and episode #46 Henrietta Nelson https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-46-henrietta-nelson-nobody-else-can-put-a-feeling-in-you Ruth's favourite episode: episode #6 with Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Alex Swallow's favourite episodes: episode #25 with Kim Morgan https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan, episode #19 with Chris Joseph https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph, episode #15 with Toku McCree, https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword  and episode #27 with Robert Stephenson https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change Alex Whitton’s favourite episodes: episode #19 with Chris Joseph https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph and episode #20 with Giovanna Capozza https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza Robbie’s favourite episodes: episode #9 with Barry Ennis https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire and episode #47 with Lindsey Lewis https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent

Every coach has a human story, and these stories contain the wisdom, vulnerability and invaluable lessons that inform our work. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Claire Pedrick and Lucia Baldelli share some of the human stories that have shaped their lives and careers, leading them to become Master Certified Coaches and co-authors of a powerful new book. That book is The Human Behind The Coach, and it’s about the inner work we need to do to cultivate a simpler practice and to demonstrate art in the coaching room. It is a guide to the principles that inform a more human approach to coaching: one that is not bound by tools or hacks, but allows for a natural process and a letting go. The vibrant dynamic between Claire and Lucia gave rise to the book and it shines through in this episode as they share their infectious enthusiasm for transformative coaching work with individuals, teams and organisations.  In this episode, we also talk about: How Agile methodologies help people adapt to change The importance of holding endings The times when it’s appropriate to break the rules How we navigate fundamental differences between our beliefs and values and those of our clients The power of being able to sit with not knowing Claire and Lucia also discuss their virtual book launch, which is taking place on Monday November 13th at 6pm (UK time) - click here for details. For more information about Claire, visit https://www.3dcoaching.com/claire-pedrick-mcc/. For more information about Lucia, visit http://www.luciabaldelli.com/. For more information on The Human Behind The Coach and the course Claire and Lucia mention, visit: https://www.thehumanbehindthecoach.com/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Coaching Agile Teams by Lisa Atkins https://lyssaadkins.com/product/coaching-agile-teams-paperback/ - Listen by Kathryn Mannix https://www.kathrynmannix.com/books/listen/ - With the End in Mind by Kathryn Mannix https://www.kathrynmannix.com/books/with-the-end-in-mind/ - The best chair in the world (according to Claire's LinkedIn connections) https://www.hermanmiller.com/en_gb/products/seating/office-chairs/ - Lucia's husband Marco's website: https://www.marcolattarulo.com/ - The Coaches Walking LinkedIn Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12827884/ - Coaching Outside The Box https://www.coachingoutsidethebox.net/ - Claire’s book https://spckpublishing.co.uk/how-to-make-great-appointments-in-the-church - Nancy Kline https://www.timetothink.com/nancy-kline/ - Brene Brown’s TED talk on vulnerability https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_the_power_of_vulnerability?language=en - Siobhan Miller https://www.linkedin.com/in/siobhan-miller/?originalSubdomain=uk - Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both - Chapter 12 of The Human Behind The Coach is available for free on the website https://www.thehumanbehindthecoach.com/ - Bounce by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/book/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/ - Claire and Lucia on a writing retreat https://www.linkedin.com/posts/clairepedrick_thehumanbehindthecoach-activity-7044305188907544576-Gbpi/ - The Coaching Inn Podcast https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/

When Toku McCree first learned his purpose, he wondered where it had come from and who had said it—even though he was alone with his thoughts when it came to him. He describes in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast how that particular thought, when it arrived, felt “untouchable” and instilled in him the purpose that now guides him through his life and work. Toku spent more than two-and-a-half years living in a monastery, and insights from his former life as a Zen monk permeate his writing, his creativity and his work as a renowned executive coach. In this episode we dive into Toku’s forthcoming book (you can read three chapters for free here) and he reads aloud sections that offer valuable wisdom on how to allow your coaching style to evolve, how to avoid getting stuck in a rut, and how to invite clients to take the first step when they arrive at coaching with trepidation. If you are struggling with your work or with finding your purpose, this episode explores ways to make that struggle meaningful and guide you forwards towards satisfaction.  In this episode, we also talk about: Finding your creative voice and how to think about the body of work you’re creating Bringing reverence to your work and finding satisfaction beyond the hustle Knowing when to challenge and when to encourage our clients The six areas of mastery Toku focuses on in his writing and his coach training How to view your coaching as art and how that can guide you to do your best work We also zoom in on how to accept the times when our work is not our best, and even explore the value in being willing to do bad work! To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Toku, visit http://unexecutive.com/. Read three chapters of Toku’s forthcoming book here: https://coachingmba.co/journey-zenandcoaching For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Toku’s first appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword - Toku’s blog https://unexecutive.com/theblog/ - The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/prosperous-coach-2-0/ - Robbie’s 12 Minute Method https://www.robbieswale.com/the12minutemethod - Zen Mind, Beginner’s Mind by Shunryu Suzuki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Mind,_Beginner%27s_Mind - When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron https://pemachodronfoundation.org/product/when-things-fall-apart-book-grouped/ - Everyday Zen by Charlotte Joko Beck https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/everyday-zen-love-and-work-charlotte-joko-beck?variant=32755860766798 - Zen and the Art of Archery by Eugen Herrigel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery - Toku’s coaching MBA https://coachingmba.co/about/ BIOGRAPHY FROM TOKU Toku McCree is a distinguished executive coach, speaker, and writer, celebrated for his one-of-a-kind combination of ancient wisdom and modern psychology. His life journey weaves an extraordinary tapestry of diverse experiences, contributing to a profound understanding of human nature and personal growth. From a degree in philosophy from George Washington University, to eight years working in the entertainment business alongside record labels and award-winning artists, to over two years dedicated to training as a Zen monk, Toku's multifaceted expertise fuels his approach to coaching. Today, he leverages this unique blend of academic, spiritual, and professional experiences to empower others on their paths of self-discovery and personal growth, making him a leading figure in the field.

Imagine being able use your skills, expertise and resources in a way that makes the world a better place, while meeting all of your own needs as well. It is a bold, brave goal and one that Sarah Fox, founder and CEO of Do Good and Do Well has put at the very centre of her work as an EMCC accredited coach, mentor, teacher, trainer and facilitator. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Sarah shares the personal and professional experiences that shaped her vision for a company that helps people to flourish, enhances their wellbeing, and allows them to contribute meaningfully to the change they want to see in the world. Sarah sheds light on the hardships and injustices that instilled her with the determination to use her gifts to bring about positive change, and describes how the highs and lows of self-employment led her to create Lasting Impact – a programme to help freelancers contribute to the greater good while ensuring they remain financially stable. Sarah’s journey into coaching – which took her from drama and theatre studies to roles in data entry, education, and the not-for-profit sector – is an inspiring one. The theme of belonging appears throughout her story, along with the values of empathy, care, kindness and courage, which permeate her work.  In this episode, we also talk about: Surefire ways to grow your coaching business How to know when it’s the right time to go freelance The deep thinking required behind how to set your fees How we can contribute to the greater good in the world The importance of cultivating the healthy, wise, Jedi parts of ourselves Sarah and I also share our approaches to managing the finances of our businesses, explaining the tips and tricks that have empowered us to feel better about money and secure in our work. To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Sarah, visit http://www.sarahfox.co.uk/. For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Robbie’s 100 Podcasts Challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge - Robbie’s appearance on Sarah’s podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/048-a-12-minute-podcast-about-finding-your-voice/id1544267713?i=1000590634149 - Sarah’s blog about coaching 100 people for free https://sarahfox.co.uk/blog-1/goldenmilk-wf7rd -  WBECS https://www.wbecs.com/ - Marcia Reynolds on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-14-marcia-reynolds-becoming-world-number-five-coachin-guru-rgdph-b5j29 - EMCC https://www.emccglobal.org/ - Jonathan Rees https://twitter.com/JonathanRees_ - Megan Metcalf https://meganmetcalfstudio.com/ - People United https://peopleunited.org.uk/?doing_wp_cron=1690294077.4754209518432617187500 - Tom Andrews https://peopleunited.org.uk/our-people/tom-andrews/ - Sarah’s podcast episode with Tom Andrews https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/058-purpose-the-how-and-starting-with-self-with-tom-andrews/id1544267713?i=1000618007837 - People United’s research papers https://peopleunited.org.uk/our-research/ - Rest Is Resistance by Tricia Hersey https://thenapministry.com/ - Relational Dynamics 1st (RD 1st) https://relationaldynamics1st.co.uk/ - Deb Barnard MBE https://www.associationforcoaching.com/member/debbarnardAC - Kathryn Powell https://leadwithoutlimits.co.uk/ - Clore Leadership https://www.cloreleadership.org/ - Isabel Mortimer https://www.cloreleadership.org/about-us/associates/8920 - Lasting Impact https://sarahfox.co.uk/lasting-impact - Robbie’s article about the money stories holding you back https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2023/2/24/beware-the-money-stories-holding-you-back - Marketing without the ick https://sarahfox.co.uk/blog-1/marketing-without-the-ick - The Profit First method https://relayfi.com/blog/profit-first-method - Sarah hosting a podcast about philanthropy https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sarahfoxcoach_kent-community-foundation-podcast-the-good-activity-7077898941115027456-E_wL/ - Association for Coaching https://www.associationforcoaching.com/ BIOGRAPHY FROM SARAH Sarah Fox is founder and CEO of Do Good and Do Well, a coaching and consultancy company that helps individuals and organisations use their time, skills, expertise and/or wealth to contribute positively and make the world a better place. Sarah is an EMCC senior practitioner accredited coach and mentor, as well as a qualified teacher, trainer, facilitator and podcaster. Before becoming a coach, Sarah spent 20 years in the not-for-profit sector exploring belonging, kindness and connection. Sarah lives in Ramsgate in Kent and lives with her two children (13 + 11), her husband, one dog, one cat, two crayfish, one shrimp, six fish and two hamsters.

As a self-described introvert, it was a surprise to Susana Gonçalves when she found her calling in coaching. In our conversation in episode #52 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Susana explains how she experienced “an awakening” that led her forward from her background in IT, engineering and finance. When the organisation she worked for invested in team coaching, Susana witnessed first-hand the evolution of her colleagues as they worked with a coach, inspiring her to invest in her own development and transformation to become a coach. In this episode Susana shares her experience of rising up through male-dominated industries in the early part of her career, instilling her with a deep belief in the power and importance of diversity within organisations – a belief that shapes her work as a coach. Now, as an ICF Master Certified Coach with more than 2,500 hours of experience in coaching leaders and executives, she works with clients across the world, from Saudi Arabia to Brazil.  In this episode, we also talk about: The art of team coaching and its transformative potential The impact of mindfulness on a coaching practice The different ways in which people live and work as coaches The differences between ICF certifications Imposter syndrome, and how we manage it Through her coaching company Meaningful Works, Susana has enabled herself to be location-free, delivering her work from wherever she needs to be in the world, and we discuss the sensitivity and understanding required when working cross-culturally. To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Susana, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/susana-goncalves. For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - ICF coach training https://coachingfederation.org/credentials-and-standards/find-education - John Monks on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-39-john-monks-closing-the-circle-and-becoming-closer-apart - Robbie’s group coaching session on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBvAVfZrKQ - Bounce by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/book/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/ - Rebel Ideas by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/book/rebel-ideas-the-power-of-diverse-thinking/ - Headspace https://www.headspace.com/ - Insight Timer https://insighttimer.com/en-gb - MCC certification https://coachingfederation.org/credentials-and-standards/credentials-paths/mcc-credential - Live coaching sessions by MCC coaches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgQvPII9BKg - Janet Harvey https://mccmentorcoach.com/janet-harvey - Janet Harvey video with commentary on a coaching session https://youtu.be/2C8aIPA82UY - Centre for Creative Leadership (CCL) https://www.ccl.org/ - ‘Luck is the residue of design’ – John Miltonhttps://scottturman.com/luck-is-the-residue-of-design - ICF Converge https://coachingfederation.org/events/icf-converge BIOGRAPHY FROM SUSANA Susana Gonçalves is an ICF Master Certified Coach with +2,500 hours’ experience coaching leaders and executives globally and a strong background in IT, organisational development and team leadership. She is a seasoned professional with over two decades of experience in multinational organisation environments with a breadth of cultural influences, including invaluable international experience, bringing a wealth of personal and professional experience to her role as executive coach and team coach. She excels in coaching individuals and navigating the complexities of global and culturally diverse teams, yielding remarkable outcomes. She is driven by a profound passion for empowering leaders and guiding them to forge their own transformative paths. Through the creation of a safe coaching space, she brings awareness to their aspirational potential, inspiring them to reach new heights.

Matt Thieleman admits that for many years he “wholeheartedly dismissed” the coaching industry. He also says he denied an important part of himself. Now, as the author of This Is Coaching and a renowned transformational coach, visionary and featured TEDx speaker on the topic of mindful leadership, Matt is adept at identifying when people and organisations have shut off vital parts of themselves. In this episode Matt talks frankly about the barriers he had to overcome to allow the hidden parts of himself to be seen, and how experiences like the Samurai Coaching Dojo transformed his own sense of belonging as well as the spaces he creates for his coaching clients. He shares what becoming CEO of founders coaching organisation Pilea taught him about growing sustainably and building without burnout, and outlines his goals for every business founder in the world to have a coach, for every coach in the world to be world class, and for every human in the world to have the skills of a coach.  In this episode, we also talk about: Broken leadership models, and how we can fix them How to handle difficult feedback and criticism Harnessing deliberate practice to train and improve as a coach How we fall into the trap of outsourcing our decision-making capability The process of pitching, publishing and marketing a book on coaching Matt shares details about his new pilot group program called Mastering the Coaching Game, which will take the principles of his book deeper and support coaches in applying them to their life and work. To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Matt, visit https://goldenbristle.com/. For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Toku McCree on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword - Aaron Caulfield https://www.aaroncaulfield.com/ - Mike Harris https://michaelvharris.com/ - Rich Litvin’s Prosperous Coach Intensives https://richlitvin.com/intensive/ - Pilea coach community https://joinpilea.com/ - Pilea (the plant) https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/grow-plants/how-to-grow-pilea-peperomioides/ - Jomar Gomez https://www.facebook.com/jomargomez.coach/ - Chris Joseph on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph - This Is Coaching by Matt Thieleman https://goldenbristle.com/book - Blink by Malcolm Gladwell https://www.gladwellbooks.com/titles/malcolm-gladwell/blink/9780316005043/ - Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ - Wayne Dyer https://www.drwaynedyer.com/ - Dave Ulrich https://www.rbl.net/about-us/consultants/dave-ulrich - Marshall Goldsmith https://marshallgoldsmith.com/ - Matt’s TEDX talk on mindful leaderships https://www.ted.com/talks/matt_thieleman_why_the_world_needs_mindful_leaders - The Samurai Coaching Dojo https://tokumccree.medium.com/our-origin-18f2b41e5f0c - Adam Quiney https://adamquiney.com/ - David Deida https://deida.info/ - The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida https://deida.info/the-way-of-the-superior-man/ - Kari Sulenes https://www.linkedin.com/in/kari-sulenes-3847a350/ BIOGRAPHY FROM MATT Matt Thieleman is a transformational coach, visionary, speaker, advisor, and author. Matt works with leaders and change-makers to help them live into their purpose more fully, and bring their masterpieces to the world. He educates and trains coaches to be world-class in their field, and help their clients reach their full potential. You can learn more about him at goldenbristle.com. Prior to becoming a coach, Matt was in the marketing world, working with clients in practically every industry imaginable. He has been a leadership coach since 2016 and spent 2021 as CEO of Pilea, a coaching organisation for venture-backed founders. After a year of intense growth and hard work, Matt turned his focus back to coaching and other soul work he’s called to bring to the world. It’s simply a continuation of a lifelong mission to heal himself, help others heal, and lead others with authenticity. He is the author of This is Coaching: How to Transform a Client’s Performance, Life, & Business as a Master Coach & Warrior of Love.

Heart-based leadership is an approach to solving problems, building relationships and creating flow that expert practitioner Marie Reig Florensa uses to transform individuals, teams and organisations. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Marie describes how, during 15 years as a producer on live television shows, she became adept at living in the moment and honed her intuition as she navigated the “big live opera” of broadcasting. Marie shares her journey of self discovery and how she came to recognise the intangible factors – aspirations, emotions, imaginations – that quietly drive our experiences and shape our lives. She also shares a precious technique that you can start using today to unlock your own ability to lead from the heart, follow your intuition and be at your best.  In this episode, we talk about: How we feed our imagination, and thus shape the world How to harness discomfort and drive yourself forward The real uniqueness of our own authenticity Turning to ancient indigenous cultures for insight into human nature How to follow your curiosity towards beautiful gifts Marie reflects on the transition from being a creative problem solver to becoming a facilitator of regenerative spaces, describing the principles that lie at the heart of her revolutionary work. To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Marie, visit https://mariereig.com/. For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - The Berlin School of Creative Leadership https://www.berlin-school.com/ - Berkley Executive Coaching Institute https://www.berkeleyeci.com/ - Guy Sengstock https://circlinginstitute.com/about/ - The HeartMath Institute https://www.heartmath.org/ - Presence-Based Coaching by Doug Silsbee https://presencebasedcoaching.com/ - The Four-Fold Way by Angeles Arrien https://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/books/reviews/view/7721 - The ‘journal’ section of Marie’s website https://mariereig.com/learn-more-about-heart-based-leadership/ BIOGRAPHY FROM MARIE Marie Reig Florensa is a humanist, executive coach, and heart-based leadership expert exploring the crossroads of human values, leadership, and creativity. She is on a global discovery quest to better understand and communicate what it truly means to lead from the heart, beyond assumptions and stereotypes. Marie supports creative leaders, teams, and organisations to fast-track their leadership development, unlocking their "best self" – the self in alignment with their values and soul purpose for positive social impact. She does so by means of tailor-made playful and artistic strategies that unleash genuine human connection, ignite creative genius and awaken self-generative learning. Her heart-based creative leadership coaching methodology is supported by expert practitioners' work, contemporary academic and scientific research, and ancient cross-cultural indigenous and spiritual wisdom. Marie has more than 20 years of experience working in the creative industries, in mainstream and unconventional projects, teams, and organisations. Her mission is to catalyse human flourishing, demonstrating that every small gesture is a weapon of mass construction and that our lives are our most precious works of art.

Many of us live out our lives while tied to our careers, our homes, our families and our friends. This can be joyous, but for some it is stifling. Ray Martin lived that life and achieved great success, even being named Daily Telegraph Business Leader of the Year in 2002 as the CEO of a company that developed business leaders. But when his personal life changed dramatically, he realised his work was not making him happy and he set out on a mission to discover his authentic self. Now, as the author of Life Without A Tie, Ray tells the story of a journey of exploration that took him to 28 countries and saw him launch a global foundation, become a marathon runner, act in a play and turn himself into a coach whose clients have included more than 100 people across Asia. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ray describes how he learned to serve people who are trapped in a life that others expect of them, and how he allowed his inner voice to return and guide him to a life of possibility, fulfilment, and greater self-awareness. In this episode, we talk about: The confirmation signals we need when making decisions How acts of service can lead to personal breakthroughs How we become the actor, scriptwriter and director in our own lives The shift from materialism to experientialism The power of intention to deliver the work and life you want The freedom that comes from feeling less attached to each possibility Ray shares wisdom about the cycles of desire and craving that don’t always lead us to what we need, and offers sage advice on the tools that can guide us to a place of authenticity. To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Ray, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymartin/ or https://lifewithoutatie.com/. For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Life Without A Tie https://lifewithoutatie.com/ - The Better Bolder Braver Podcast https://betterbolderbraver.com/ - Robert D’Aubigny and Exegesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis_(group) - The Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum - Henrietta Nelson on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-46-henrietta-nelson-nobody-else-can-put-a-feeling-in-you - Sydney Banks https://sydneybanks.org/ - Wait But Why https://waitbutwhy.com/homepage - Stuffocation by James Wallman https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/07/stuffocation-living-more-with-less-james-wallman-review - Joseph Campbell and The Hero’s Journey https://www.skillshare.com/en/blog/the-heros-journey-stages-and-structure/ - Bernadette Russell https://www.bernadetterussell.com/ - Undefended Love http://www.undefendedlove.com/ - The Hoffman Process https://www.hoffmaninstitute.co.uk/about-the-process/ - Ray’s blog https://thedailyexplorer.com/blog/ - Asia Pacific Alliance of Coaches https://apacoaches.org/ - Robbie’s appearance on the Leadership Live podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqsdH23Nm4o - Coach in a Box https://www.linkedin.com/company/coach-in-a-box - Robert Stephenson on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-41-robert-stephenson-the-scaffolding-of-change-and-when-to-discard-it - Steve Biddulph https://www.stevebiddulph.com/ - The Sabbatical Project https://thesabbaticalproject.org/ - The Untethered Soul by Michael A. Singer https://untetheredsoul.com/ - Quote from Marcel Proust https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22270761/

Bill Small’s voice is a powerful creative tool that has been creating songs and conversations throughout his life as a professional musician, entrepreneur and business coach. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Bill describes the challenge of blending his passions for music and conversation in order to create the life he wanted, highlighting key shifts in his mindset that enabled a balance to emerge. During 35 years of performing and playing music and 20 years helping small business owners to thrive, Bill has accrued some wonderful stories and a huge amount of wisdom, not least through his experience of two of the biggest movements in personal development: The Landmark Forum and the Law of Attraction. In our deep and searching conversation he reflects on creativity, integrity, personal responsibility, and money. Alongside his work as a coach and as a musician, Bill is the co-host of The Subtle Art of Not Yelling podcast and co-founder of a creative community called The Box, both of which serve to help people chunk down their projects and get out of their own way in order to finish what they’ve made.  In this episode, we talk about: Important versus interesting, and how we choose between them Why finishing our creative projects matters The comparison sticks we beat ourselves with How to show up as everything we are, instead of our divided selves Integrity, and what it means to honour your word as yourself Finishing his work is something Bill has committed to in order to honour the creative process, and hearing him speak about how he approaches all aspects of his fiercely creative life is truly inspiring. To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Bill, visit https://www.artistmind.co/. For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Bill’s podcast The Subtle Art of Not Yelling https://subtleartofnotyelling.com/ - Toku McCree on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword - Toku McCree on the Coaches Rising Podcast https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/the-path-to-coaching-mastery-and-what-new-coaches-get-wrong-with-toku-mccree/ - The Coaches Rising Podcast https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/ - Robbie’s 100 podcast challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge - Robbie’s appearance on The Subtle Art of Not Yelling https://subtleartofnotyelling.com/robbie-swale/ - The Tim Ferriss Show https://tim.blog/podcast/ - Steven Pressfield’s appearance on the Tim Ferriss Show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RhIp9C5OO8 - Julia Donaldson and Axel Scheffler https://www.gruffalo.com/julia-and-axel - 12-minute article on The Lost Relics of our Art https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/4/the-lost-relics-of-our-art - Bill’s music https://billsmallmusic.com/ - The Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum - Walt Wilkins and the Mystiqueros https://www.mystiquero.com/ - Erhard Seminars Training (EST) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Seminars_Training - Phil Bolton on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders - The Secret https://www.thesecret.tv/the-secret-documentary/ - BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/ - Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html - Bob Doyle https://thelawofattraction.com/about-bob-doyle/ - Mastering Your Personal Brand https://www.robbieswale.com/mastering-your-personal-brand - Miles Hanson https://twitter.com/mileshanso - The Box https://subtleartofnotyelling.com/box/ - The 12-Minute Method https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method

Lindsey Lewis was a sensitive child. “The one crying about the bird that fell out of the nest,” as she puts it. Her intimate connection to living things was a challenge early in her life, but in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast she describes how she harnessed the power of her sensitivity to become a passionate, brave and creative coach. Throughout her life as a magazine editor, communications consultant and now as the owner of a thriving coaching business, she has always taught and practiced yoga. She explains the importance of physical bodily awareness to the phenomenal energy she beckons into her coaching sessions. The power of an invitation is a key theme in this episode, and Lindsey explains how she learned to instigate and lead interactions that recognise and reflect the value of what she has to offer her clients. Our conversation comes at an exciting time and Lindsey discusses her work on a documentary that will showcase the work of brilliant people seeking to make positive change in the world – something she is well-placed to promote.  In this episode, we talk about: Easeful conversations Being ‘on path’ and what that can do for our health and our work How to create timely invitations to engage The terrifying, transformative thrill of group experiences How the way we do one thing is the way we do everything Lindsey has a wonderful way of describing the call to adventure, and how to overcome resistance to those ideas that just won’t leave us alone. She also outlines what she has learned about the skills that every coach needs to build a successful coaching business: Being her professional self Invitations Initial conversations Proposals Navigating what comes after the proposals She generously shares practical tips and advice on each one. To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Lindsey, visit https://imlindseylewis.com/coaching/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Robert Holden’s workshops https://www.robertholden.com/events/ - Martha Beck https://marthabeck.com/ - Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/ - Amber Krysz https://amberkrzys.com/ - Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html - Carolyn Freyer-Jones https://carolynfreyerjones.com/ - The Prosperous Coach https://richlitvin.com/prosperous-coach-2-0/ - The Coach’s Journey Community https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community - Joseph Campbell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell - Finding Joe documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8nFACrLxr0 - Clear Self vs Clouded Self https://imlindseylewis.com/resources/ ABOUT LINDSEY LEWIS Lindsey Lewis is a professional life and business coach. In the business arena, she works primarily with small businesses run by caring, passionate people who want to create more freedom and income. She also mentors and supports coaches wanting to grow their practice and income. She has appeared on Roundhouse Radio, Breakfast Television, the cover of WHERE Magazine; has been a featured speaker at Green College at The University of British Columbia, Rhodes College and Simon Fraser University; plus businesses and organisations including SAP Labs Canada, The City of Coquitlam, The Vancouver Business Network, Grace Club Vancouver and CPHR BC and FuturPreneur Canada. Her work initially focused on supporting people with handling stress, and increasing happiness. Over the years, it has evolved into a mission to help create a world where each person experiences and shares their own inner strength, capabilities, and true gifts – in their work and in their life.

Henrietta Nelson has always been interested in people’s minds. She describes how, during a decade spent working as a solicitor specialising in insurance litigation, she would study her colleagues’ faces, observing their drives and motivations. After a friend recommended a two-day course at The Coaching Academy, Henrietta felt the pieces begin to fall into place. Becoming a coach has given Henrietta fresh perspective. In this episode she talks about facing down feelings of impatience, and shaking off the sense that life is happening elsewhere. We discuss the beauty and the difficulty of becoming free to choose how we work as coaches. As a lawyer, nobody wanted Henrietta to indulge in experiments, but as a coach she works creative wonders with her clients.  If you’re dealing with self-doubt, caught up in comparisons, or in need of a reminder that the journey you’re on is valid, full of potential and uniquely yours, Henrietta’s reflections on her arrival at a place filled with meaning might be just what you need to hear.  In this episode, we talk about: The inside-out phenomenon, and how our thinking about the outside world impacts us Dealing with perceived rejection and early setbacks Letting go of getting everything right, and of linear trajectories Coping with anxiety in order to find inspiration The balancing act required when coaching part-time or navigating the demands of family life Henrietta also shares what she gleaned as a listener to this podcast, offering valuable reflections on particular episodes and insights that stood out for her. To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Henrietta, visit https://henriettanelsoncoaching.com/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Catriona Horey, who appears in episode #4 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-4-catriona-horey-too-far-away-from-the-joy - Barry Ennis, who appears in episode #9 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire - Lucy Ball, who appears in episode #40 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-40-lucy-ball-how-to-be-what-you-teach - Robbie’s books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books  - The Coaching Academy https://www.the-coaching-academy.com/ - Influence by Robert B. Cialdini https://medium.com/power-books/influence-the-psychology-of-persuasion-a-book-summary-7ae0ebf8950f - Jamie Smart, who appears in episode #16 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-16-jamie-smart - Allegra Stein, who appears in episodes #22 and #43 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-43-allegra-stein-when-is-it-time-to-quit-the-business-of-coaching - Jamie Smart’s Career Transition Blueprint https://www.jamiesmart.com/career/ - Three Principles coaching https://changeinaction.com/3-principles-based-coaching/ - Jamie Smart’s Clarity Certification Training https://www.jamiesmart.com/cct - Robbie’s testimonials https://www.robbieswale.com/work-with-me - Dr. Keith Blevens http://www.consciousleadershipschool.com/facultys/dr-keith-blevens-tst/ -The Inside Out Revolution by Michael Neil https://www.michaelneill.org/insideoutrevolution/ - Man’s Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankl https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4069.Man_s_Search_for_Meaning - Terri Rubenstein at iheart https://iheartprinciples.com/author/terry-rubenstein/ - Jonathan Haidt on the Tim Ferriss show https://tim.blog/2022/12/21/jonathan-haidt/ - Phil Goddard, who appears in episode #30 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-30-phil-goddard - Claire Pedrick, who appears in episode #44 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching - Jennifer Garvey Berger, who appears in episode #42 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both - Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html - How to Get the Most Out of Coaching by Karen Davis and Alex Mill https://karendaviscoaching.com/book/

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, I invited a true master of the art of listening to interview me about my own journey and the transformations that have happened – and continue to happen – along the way. Raquel Ark, the founder of listening ALCHEMY, deftly opens up a conversation in which I share what it was like to realise that my life was not what I wanted it to be, and how the pain of that realisation prompted me to look at uncomfortable things. I now know that an experience being uncomfortable does not make it the wrong thing to do – and often, the opposite is true. Raquel makes space for me to talk about how I discovered what is unusual and different about me, and how these things made me well suited to coaching. Our conversation hones in on the transformational power of being true to yourself, being aligned with your values, and letting that inform the outcomes that emerge.  In this episode, we talk about: How Agile methodology guided a transformation in my life and career Getting ourselves off the hook of the outcome How to feed our energy, and not drain it The people who see our potential and help us reach it Leading with honour and putting all of you into your work How to be successful without compromising your values I also talk about the meaning behind my resistance to partnerships in a conversation that allows me to simultaneously discover and share insights into my development as a person and as a practitioner. To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Raquel, visit https://listeningalchemy.com/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Robbie’s 100 Podcasts Challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge - Robbie on Raquel’s Listening Superpower Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-listening-as-a-powerful-tool-to-help-you-get/id1457489060?i=1000578499986 - Episode #33 with Raquel https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-33-raquel-ark - Waking up the Workplace http://www.wakinguptheworkplace.com/ - Robbie’s train series https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/11/23/the-train-series-1-stories - Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/ - Robbie’s 12-Minute books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books - Miranda Kaufmann http://www.mirandakaufmann.com/ - Jordan Hall and the two types of time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933qDMh1J3g - Career Shifters https://www.careershifters.org/ - Natasha Stanley https://www.careershifters.org/author/natasha-stanley - Richard Alderson on the lean career change https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/the-lean-career-change-how-to-reduce-the-risk-and-increase-the-speed-of-your-shift - Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching - Agile methodology https://www.wrike.com/project-management-guide/faq/what-is-agile-methodology-in-project-management/ - Phil Bolton https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders - The Coach’s Journey Community https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community - Robbie’s former teacher, Mr Leeming https://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/4491805.farewell-to-mr-leeming-and-the-travelling-teddies/ - Jo Hunter, co-founder and CEO of 64 Million Artists https://64millionartists.com/team/jo-hunter/ - Rachel Feldberg https://www.ilkleyliteraturefestival.org.uk/posts/home/rachel-feldberg-step-artistic-director-ilkley-literature-festival - Vegard Olsen https://www.linkedin.com/in/vegard-olsen-2944591 - The War of Art by Steven Pressfield https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/ - Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/ - Robbie’s blog, The Wisdom of David Gemmell http://www.wisdomofgemmell.com/author/robbie/ - Fred Kofman https://www.fredkofman.org/sobre-fred-kofman-ing.php - Robbie on Raquel’s Listen In podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/om/podcast/self-listening-as-a-powerful-tool-to-help-you-get/id1457489060?i=1000578499986 - Robert Holden on dysfunctional independence https://www.robertholden.com/blog/dysfunctionally-independent/ - Enneagram Type 6 https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-6 - Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller - The Prosperous Coach salon https://richlitvin.com/the-salon-is-no-more/ - Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach - Dan Sullivan on courage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBlJ5HbFpYQ - The 12-Minute Method Podcast https://anchor.fm/12-minute-method - Unleash Your Complexity Genius by Jennifer Garvey Berger and Carolyn Coughlin https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=34941

Claire Pedrick was speaking at the ICF Conference in 2019 when a publisher approached her and said: “Have you got a book in you?” That book is Simplifying Coaching, and in it Claire offers a rallying cry for filtering out the noise of the coaching industry and honing in on the very human essence of transformative conversations. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Claire traces the steps that led her into a burgeoning coaching landscape around the turn of the century and reflects on the precious lessons learned from moments that sometimes felt like missteps. She shines a light on the “guru-ing” and “pedestal-ing” that can lead to problematic power dynamics in coaching, and shares the foundational values such as equity and fairness that underpin the success of 3D Coaching and saw her recognised with the 2022 Outstanding Contribution to Coaching Award from Henley Business School. Claire is a master of the art of communicating complicated things simply, but admits it took a long time to have the confidence to cut through complexity and offer straightforward truths when coaching or mentoring coaches. Listening to her speak, you cannot fail to appreciate the fundamental importance of her approach, which is explained with refreshing clarity. In this episode, we talk about: Whether we have to be the things we want to develop in people The impact of modelling the boundaries we set The holy ground in the coaching space and how to interact with it Being wise about how many coffees to have with someone and still call it work Learning how to be silent and how to wait while coaching clients are doing good work Claire also talks about how to value your time, how to balance delivery and business development, and the importance of – as coaches – telling the truth about ourselves. To learn more about Claire, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairepedrick/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Robbie’s upcoming event, How to Be More Productive (and why time management won’t help you): https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/how-to-be-more-productive-and-why-time-management-wont-help-you-tickets-470005598397 - Claire’s podcast, The Coaching Inn https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/ - Sarah Cartwright https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-cartwright-28659815/ - Claire’s book, Simplifying Coaching https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/56199938-simplifying-coaching - Alex Swallow http://alexswallow.com/about/ - Robbie’s 100 podcast challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge - Transforming Conversations https://www.3dcoaching.com/transforming-conversations/ - Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3228917-outliers - Ed Watson https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-watson-training - Good Housekeeping https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/ - Thomas Leonard https://coachville.com/connect/founder-thomas-leonard/ - Coach U https://www.coachu.com/home/ - 3D Coaching https://www.3dcoaching.com/ - Moneypenny https://www.moneypenny.com/uk/ - Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals, by Oliver Burkeman https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/54785515-four-thousand-weeks - Phil Bolton and Inga Umblija on The Coach’s Journey podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-28-inga-umblija-phil-bolton-abundance-formula - Barry Ennis on The Coach’s Journey podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire - Reid Hoffman https://www.reidhoffman.org/ - Robbie appearing on The Coaching Inn https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-robbie-swale-how-to-start-when-you-re-stuck/ - Vegard Olsen coachingpartner.net - Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ - ILM https://www.i-l-m.com/ - John Blakey https://johnblakey.co.uk/

How can we be free to do the work we love? This is the fundamental question at the heart of my conversation with coach, community builder and eternal adventurer Allegra Stein, who is navigating a crucial turning point in her multifaceted career. Following on from our first conversation on the podcast, in this episode Allegra and I tackle an issue faced by coaches at all levels: how to stay creative and uphold your values while carving out a viable business. After more than a decade in which she has gone against the grain of the coaching industry and developed her own maverick approach, Allegra is seeking the freedom to coach without the burden of business. The insights she shares as we reflect on her journey and look to the future will resonate with anyone who has found themselves craving more creative freedom or wrestling with the challenges of entrepreneurship. As a high relater who loves to contribute to what’s possible, Allegra is brimming with energy and ideas as she anticipates a new chapter of her career and steps bravely towards it.  In this episode, we talk about: The difficulty of being creative under pressure The benefits of a strengths-based approach Why offering something for free might not be helpful Whether entrepreneurship is for everyone, and how to tell if it’s for you The difference between running a food truck and being a chef Allegra focuses much of her attention towards mentoring new coaches, and shares her experience of forming an energising new partnership that has transformed her approach to that work. To learn more about Allegra, visit https://www.allegrastein.com/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - The previous episode featuring Allegra https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-22-allegra-stein-how-to-flourish-as-a-coaching-misfit - Gay Hendricks and the zones of excellence and genius https://www.thejoyofbusiness.co.uk/how/how-to-find-your-zone-of-genius/ - B-School https://marieforleobschool.com/ - The Prosperous Coach by Steve Chandler and Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/ - YouMap https://www.myyoumap.com/ - Mighty Networks https://www.mightynetworks.com/ - Patreon https://www.patreon.com/ - BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/en-gb/ - Robbie’s article on the six cycles of an entrepreneur https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/8/11/6-cycles-of-an-entrepreneur - Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach - The CliftonStrengths Online Talent Assesment https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/252137/home.aspx - Tim Ferriss and Debbie Millman https://tim.blog/2017/01/12/how-to-design-a-life-debbie-millman/ - Mike Toller https://birkbeckcounsellingassociation.org/therapist/michael-toller-counselling-psychotherapy/ - Nicole Brigandi https://www.nicolebrigandicoaching.com/ - Gallup https://www.gallup.com/home.aspx - Joyce Campbell http://charisnlp.co.uk/

Jennifer Garvey Berger has a new book out, called Unleash Your Complexity Genius. It is the fourth published work by the co-founder and CEO of Cultivating Leadership, and when she says that her books are getting shorter there is a sense that it's because she's honing in on the rich essence of her life's work. In this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast, Jennifer and I share a conversation that traverses adult developmental theory, complexity, vulnerability, and the transformative power of community and of "fierce friendship". We explore the junctures of growth that often appear as binary choices, and how the way forward tends to spring from a more balanced or holistic approach. Jennifer pulls these strands together into something of a manifesto for the power of connection between coaches, leaders and people who together can hold uncertainty, and support each other to dream bigger and create a future filled with possibility – even as the world around us changes beyond recognition.  In this episode, we talk about: The necessary terror of change Developmental theory The trap we fall into when comparing ourselves to others The simplicity on the far side of complexity Polished and unpolished vulnerability, and how to create more love in organisations Jennifer also shares personal reflections on growth, and the inspiring story of how she came to live and work with her friends in a shared house in France. To learn more about Jennifer, visit https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/team-member/jennifer-garvey-berger or https://twitter.com/jgberger. For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Unleash Your Complexity Genius by Carolyn Coughlin and Jennifer Garvey Berger https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/book/__trashed - Jennifer's other books https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/books - Joel Monk on the Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching - Art of Developmental Coaching with Coaches Rising https://www.coachesrising.com/artofdevelopmentalcoaching/ - A preview of the book that Robbie mentions, that isn’t out yet, The Power to Choose https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2020/3/23/why-am-i-sharing-parts-of-my-forthcoming-book-the-power-to-choose - Robbie's 12-minute series of books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books - Catherine Fitzgerald https://changeelemental.org/people/catherine-fitzgerald/ - Executive Coaching, by Catherine Fitzgerald https://www.amazon.co.uk/Executive-Coaching-Practices-Perspectives/dp/0891061614 - Robert Kegan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan - In Over Our Heads, by Robert Kegan https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674445888 - Dave Snowden and Cognitive Edge https://thecynefin.co/ - Jean Piaget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Piaget - Cathy Presland on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-17-cathy-presland-government-advisor-to-three-principles-coach - Brené Brown https://brenebrown.com/ - Amy Edmondson https://amycedmondson.com/ - The article about Jennifer's dream of moving to France: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dreaming-good-company-jennifer-garvey-berger/ - Wendy Bittner http://www.cultivatingleadership.com/team-member/wendy-bittner - Nicole Brigandi https://www.nicolebrigandicoaching.com/

Robert Stephenson no longer carries trinkets in his pockets. His need to wear crystals that represent his spirituality has lessened. This, he says, is because he has come to embody the meaning of those items in his very being. This shift has characterised an important period in Robert's life, in which he has departed from his role as director of Animas Centre for Coaching and launched his own coaching business, Fan the Flames Ltd. Robert talks about openly and honestly about why he left Animas and the impact this change has had on him, and he describes how he has truly stepped into his power since his first appearance on The Coach's Journey Podcast in July 2021. Back then, Animas provided a framework – or scaffolding – for Robert's work. So what happened when that scaffolding was no longer present? Our conversation explores Robert's transformation in depth, offering valuable lessons about how to manage change and how to grasp opportunities that arise when our circumstances change. Robert explains how he made decisions led by intuition, discovered through play, or inspired by dreams, as he took ownership of his future while embracing his "nowness". In this episode, we talk about: Recognising change in ourselves What are the stabilisers we use in our lives? And can we take them off? Embracing endings and managing change Listening to our bodies and accessing our deeper knowledge How to move "from loss to legacy" Robert also talks about the courage it takes to remove the masks we wear in our lives and careers, and the new ways people relate to us when we show up as ourselves. To learn more about Robert, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-stephenson-2491a21/ or listen to his first appearance on the podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - Robert’s previous appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change - The Hero's Journey, by Joseph Campbell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero's_Journey_(book) - Founder of Animas Nick Bolton https://www.animascoaching.com/about-animas/our-team/nick-bolton/ - Johan van Bavel – https://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-van-bavel-mcc-4826b34/ - Claire Mitchell https://claire.simplero.com/ - Coaching Inside and Out https://coachinginsideandout.org.uk/ - Jenny Bird https://www.coachsupervisor.co.uk/ - Todd Roache https://www.toddroache.com/ - Natasha Harris https://mindbodysoulenergy.co.uk/ - Claire Dale https://www.companiesinmotion.com/claire-dale - Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/ - Poem by Ingrid Goff Madoff - https://www.facebook.com/hollieholdenlove/photos/what-do-you-do-when-you-are-stuck-do-you-know-to-go-inside-to-ask-for-inner-guid/1417314465052422/ - Isik Tlabar https://www.isiktlabar.com/ - Kate Lander https://www.ivyhouse.co.uk/team/kate-lander/ - Extraordinary, by Elke Edwards https://www.ivyhouse.co.uk/thebook/ - Three Principles https://changeinaction.com/3-principles-based-coaching/ - Elaine Rémy https://viesjamaicanrumcakes.co.uk/coaching-cake/ - Andy Cahill's podcast, The Wonder Dome https://mindfulcreative.coach/the-wonder-dome - Information about Robert’s group programme https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robert-stephenson-2491a21_fantheflamescoaching-fantheflamesgroupciaching-activity-6961262939651637248-9gQS?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

When Lucy Ball found herself throwing golf balls into buckets at Deloitte in the mid-90s, she became caught up in the first sparks of the corporate coaching boom that would sweep through countless industries in the decades that followed. In our conversation, she describes how the people she met during that time – such as GROW-model creator Sir John Whitmore – offered a new leadership pathway, which involved a departure from dictative models and allowed coachees to lead their own development. While Lucy was director of the international leadership consultancy, Ideas Unlimited, she began to transition into high-performance coaching. She describes how, by facing fears of going it alone without backup and facilitating teams of “heavy hitting people”, she found a sense of power and influence while shaking off her inner critic and her need to be rescued. A self-described “magpie" in her twenties, Lucy now focuses her attention on Lucy Ball Consulting, where she applies her skills as an accredited Master Coach and Gestalt practitioner while working with clients such as NatWest, PepsiCo, HSBC, UK Sport, M&C Saatchi Group, BUPA and the NHS. Lucy is training to be a psychotherapist and finding ways to channel her work more altruistically, with people who might not have access to sizeable training budgets. She is also finding agency and empowerment through her passionate climate activism.  In this episode, we talk about: How to get comfortable talking about being a coach The benefits and pitfalls of coaching accreditation programmes Knowing when to partner up and the power of taking people with you What happens when you choose a modality and "go deep" Going "back to the source" of counselling and psychotherapy Pairs coaching and the new lens it can offer leaders We also talk about finding community and the joy that can be unlocked when people work together on big problems. To learn more about Lucy, visit https://www.lucyballconsulting.com For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in): - The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/ - David Hemery https://www.performanceconsultants.com/david-hemery - Sir John Whitmore's GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Myles Downey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey - Tricia Bey https://www.dundee.ac.uk/people/tricia-bey - Myers Briggs training https://eu.themyersbriggs.com/en/Training/MBTI-training - The Coaching Academy https://www.the-coaching-academy.com/ - APECS https://www.apecs.org/ - Jean Balfour https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-36-jean-balfour - Ideas Unlimited http://www.ideasunlimited.com/ - Dick Robertson http://www.ideasunlimited.com/portfolio-item/dick-robertson/ - Clore Leadership https://www.cloreleadership.org/ - Jo Hunter, CEO and co-founder of 64 Million Artists https://64millionartists.com/team/jo-hunter/ - Gestalt Cycle of Experience http://www.clevelandconsultinggroup.com/articles/gestalt-cycle-of-experience.php - Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller - The Gestalt Centre https://gestaltcentre.org.uk/ - WPF Therapy https://wpf.org.uk/ - The Cape Cod Model https://www.gisc.org/introduction-to-the-cape-cod-model - Michael Jacobs, texts on counselling and psychotherapy https://www.karnacbooks.com/Author.asp?AID=5130 - Executive Pairs https://www.executivepairs.com/ - The Amazing Development of Men – Expanded Second Edition https://www.alisonarmstrong.com/products/amazing2ndedition.html - Harthill Leadership Development Framework https://www.harthill.co.uk/leadership-development-framework - Terri O'Fallon https://www.terriofallon.com/