What a Lad

Daniel Lienert-Brown is one of the great servants of New Zealand rugby. With 140 games for the Highlanders, 100 for Canterbury, a Super Rugby title and four NPC titles, DLB has built an incredible career through consistency, resilience and a genuine love for the game.

In this episode of What a Lad, DLB opens up about the full journey — from growing up in Christchurch dreaming of one day playing for Canterbury or the Crusaders, to getting his first taste of professional rugby, receiving the call from Jamie Joseph to join the Highlanders and becoming part of their historic 2015 Super Rugby title.

What stands out most is just how grateful he is for every opportunity rugby has given him. He talks about those early “pinch yourself” moments, becoming the Highlanders’ most capped forward and reaching 100 games for Canterbury.

DLB also opens up about the tougher side of the journey. He reflects on a time when being “the rugby player” became his identity, how that affected his life away from the game, hitting rock bottom in 2021 and how faith, family and perspective helped completely change the way he sees himself today.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

DLB is a special man and there is no man who his more grateful for his career then this man, I know you'll enjoy this one!

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I know everyone will remember Sean Maitlands beautiful stride as he galloped down the field, what an athlete and what a journey he has had! From growing up in Tokoroa, to playing for the British and Irish Lions and everything in between!

In this episode of What a Lad, Sean opens up about his career for the first time on a podcast and he did not disappoint, some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Growing up in Tokoroa alongside Quade Cooper and Isaac John

- Playing for Waikato at just 17 while still at school

- Walking into a Crusaders changing room full of his childhood idols

- His experience during the devastating 2011 Christchurch earthquake

- Missing out on the All Blacks and making the decision to head overseas

- How quickly everything happened after joining Glasgow and Scotland

- Being selected for the British & Irish Lions after only a handful of Tests

- The incredible culture and team trips behind Saracens' success

- Knowing when it was finally time to call time on his career

And heaps more!

As you'll hear, Sean is an absolute lad who has experienced just about everything the game has to offer, he's played with almost every rugby legend alive and there are some incredible stories in this one. Enjoy!

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Well that's the Greatest Rivalry tour all done and dusted and it was a tour that lived up to the hype. This tour had high expectations but after producing 4 incredible tests full with intensity, quality rugby and of course some controversy, everything about this series was a success.

South Africa proved why they are the number 1 side in the world claiming the series 3–1, so where does that leave the All Blacks heading towards the Rugby World Cup?

For this episode I'm joined by Searley as we cover:

South Africa have confirmed themselves as the best team in the world — but after using 49 players on tour, there are still plenty of reasons for New Zealand fans to feel optimistic.

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The final Test of the Greatest Rivalry Tour is here, with the All Blacks and Springboks heading to Baltimore for one last showdown!

South Africa lead the series 2-1 after two huge wins at home, but what's install for this one!?

Searley is back to break down everything ahead of the final Test, including Richie Mo’unga’s return to the No.10 jersey, Ethan Blackadder’s massive opportunity, the battle at scrum time and whether the All Blacks can find a way to nullify the Springboks’ biggest strengths.

We also look at South Africa naming another incredibly strong side, what playing in Baltimore could mean for the game, the importance of the bench, and why this could almost feel like a preview of a potential World Cup quarter-final.

Can the All Blacks level the series in Baltimore, or will the Springboks finish the tour with three straight wins?

Let me know your prediction in the comments!

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The All Blacks vs Springboks Greatest Rivalry Tour continues to deliver, with another massive Test match that had everything!

Bryn Hall joins me to break down the third Test, where the All Blacks produced some outstanding rugby early before the Springboks once again showed why they’re the best in the world, using their set-piece in particular their scrum to take control of the match.

We also dive into Jordie Barrett’s incredible form, the impact of losing Ardie Savea, the controversial yellow card, South Africa’s scrum dominance, Jessie Kriels form and Man of the Match Ethan Hooker.

We also look ahead to the final Test in Baltimore. Will Richie Mo’unga get his opportunity? How will the All Blacks replace their injured stars? And can New Zealand level the series 2-2, or will the Springboks finish it off 3-1?

Let me know what stood out for you in this test match in the comments!

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The Greatest Rivalry Tour is all square at 1-1 and Test Three is set to be massive!

Bryn Hall joins me to break down where the All Blacks can improve, the Springboks’ set-piece dominance, the kicking battle, scrum tactics and the key selections ahead of another huge Test in South Africa.

We also look at Cheslin Kolbe’s move to fullback, Cam Roigard’s influence, Asafa Aumua getting his opportunity to start and finish with our score and man of the match predictions.

Who do you think is going to win this one?

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Dr Kerry Spackman has spent decades studying one fascinating question — what separates the very best from everyone else?

As a cognitive neuroscientist and high-performance consultant, Kerry has worked with Formula One legends, Olympians, key All Blacks and some of the world's highest performers, helping them understand how the brain works and how to perform when it matters most.

In this episode of What a Lad, Kerry shares some incredible insights from his career. From working with three-time Formula One World Champion Sir Jackie Stewart and discovering his relentless attention to detail, to seeing firsthand the work ethic and mindset required to become a world champion.

Kerry also breaks down the science behind elite performance — why athletes choke under pressure, how the best performers see things others don't, why being the best youngster doesn't guarantee future success, and how our emotions and experiences can shape the way we think and behave.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

Working with Sir Jackie Stewart and discovering what made him so different

The incredible work ethic Kerry has witnessed from world champions

Why some Wimbledon champions can predict where a serve is going before the ball is even hit

Why thinking too much under pressure can actually make you perform worse

Why being the best athlete at 16 doesn't mean you'll become the best as an adult

The mentality behind Hamish Bond and Eric Murray's incredible success

Why there are no shortcuts when it comes to becoming world-class

How confidence can be built just like a muscle

How emotional experiences from our past can continue to influence us years later

Why Kerry believes we have a far greater ability to change ourselves than we realise

This is one of those episodes that will make you think differently about performance, confidence and what we're actually capable of. Whether you're an athlete, coach, business owner or simply someone wanting to improve, there's plenty of gold in this one.

If you enjoy hearing how some of the world's best think and what we can learn from them, you'll love this episode.

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Episode 3 of The What a Lad Greatest Rivalry series, reviewing the All Blacks’ thrilling midweek clash against the Lions and previewing a massive second Test against the Springboks in Cape Town!

For this episode, I’m joined by the great Jeff McTainsh, who has been calling the action throughout the tour and joins me directly from South Africa to share his insight into the games and the incredible atmosphere surrounding this rivalry.

We break down how the All Blacks recovered from a 14-0 deficit against the Lions, including Ethan Blackadder’s enormous performance, Timoci Tavatavanawai’s impact, Emoni Narawa’s footwork and Rieko Ioane looking back to his explosive best.

We also discuss the challenges of preparing a midweek All Blacks side, which players have pushed their case for Test selection and the big decisions facing Dave Rennie ahead of Cape Town.

Then we preview Test 2, looking at the aerial battle, the importance of winning collisions and how the All Blacks can disrupt the Springboks’ structured game. 

The All Blacks are 1-0 up, but with Handre Pollard and Siya Kolisi returning to the Springboks can they inspire a win to keep their series hopes alive, Cape Town is set up to be an absolute classic!

Can the All Blacks go 2-0 up, or will the Springboks fight their way back into the series?

Let me know your thoughts in the comments!

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Episode 2 of The What a Lad Greatest Rivalry series, reviewing an incredible opening Test between the All Blacks and Springboks at Ellis Park!

For this episode, I’m joined again by the great Searley from Searley Talks Sport as we break down how the All Blacks managed to come away with a huge 33-16 win, despite the Springboks dominating large parts of the first half.

We look at the massive moments that swung the Test, including the All Blacks bench front row completely changing the scrum battle, Fabian Holland’s charge down, Jordie Barrett’s incredible defensive effort, Will Jordan’s Man of the Match performance and Cam Roigard’s game management under pressure.

We also discuss just how impressive Cheslin Kolbe and Jasper Wiese were for the Springboks, the refereeing and TMO decisions, Rassie Erasmus’ reaction to the loss and what both sides will need to change heading into Test 2.

The All Blacks have drawn first blood, but with the Springboks now needing to win the remaining three Tests to take the series, this Greatest Rivalry Tour has been set up perfectly!

Can the All Blacks go 2-0 up in Cape Town, or will the Springboks bounce back?

Let me know your thoughts in the comments!

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Episode 1 of The What a Lad Greatest Rivalry preview show where we preview all you need to know about the test between the All Blacks and the Springboks this weekend!

For this episode we get an insight from inside the All Black camp with All Black assistant coach Tamati Ellison as well as the usual insight from the great Searley from Searley talks sport as we look back on the tour so far as well as preview the first Test!

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Uilisi Halaholo has a story so good it was one of the reasons I started this podcast. A naturally gifted player from a young age, who was heading down the wrong path to make the most of his talent. Caught up in the wrong lifestyle, drinking and getting into trouble on a regular basis.

A turning point came when he became a young father ultimately forced him to change direction. He put down the bottle, transformed himself physically and decided to give rugby a genuine crack. That decision started a journey that would take him from fighting for an opportunity with the Southland Stags, to the Hurricanes, winning a Super Rugby title, moving across the world to Cardiff and eventually representing Wales.

But reaching the top didn't mean the challenges stopped. Willis opens up about the criticism he received for representing Wales, devastating injuries, missing the opportunity to play against the All Blacks, losing a close family member, financial uncertainty and one of the darkest periods of his career.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

What his life as a teenager was like!

Why having his daughter changed his mindset.

Why the move to Southland was the best thing for him

Why he chose a contract with the Hurricanes over other offers

How he ended up on a Wider Squad contract in 2016 the year he started in the final!

The decision to move to Cardiff

The brutal run of injuries and juggling being a father to 5 girls

How all of those highs and lows shaped the person he is today

As you’ll hear Uilisi is a lad! His story is an incredible example of how much can change when you decide to take control of your life. Plenty of laughs in this one, but also some incredibly raw and powerful moments.

As always, if you enjoy the episode please give it a like, subscribe to the channel and share it with a mate.

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Dan Kirkpatrick was an age grade superstar who was starting Super Rugby with the Hurricanes at just 20 years old. He’s a guy I always remember as being just a genuine good guy and he’s had a hell of a journey both on and off the field

In this episode of What a Lad, Dan opens up about becoming a father at just 19 and the challenges of balancing that with professional rugby, why he decided to leave New Zealand at 23 despite still having an All Blacks dream, and the serious injuries that eventually contributed to the end of his career.

Some parts that stood out for me were…

- What growing up looked like for him to be school boy star

- Becoming a dad at 19 while trying to establish himself in professional rugby

- what it was like at the Hurricanes as a young 10

- More about his decision to leave for France

- How he felt walking away from his All Blacks dream

- Winning the Top 14 with Castres as massive underdogs

- The concussion and neck injury that impacted the back end of his career

- His transition out of rugby and into business

- Building @hiit_crew_auckland and a new community after rugby.

And heaps more!

Dan’s another great example of how everyone’s journey is different and how important it is to enjoy the path you take and tackle whatever challenges come at you with a positive mindset. I really enjoyed this one and I’m sure you will too!

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Kurt Eklund has one of the most unique journeys in New Zealand rugby. A Super Rugby champion, Māori All Blacks captain and one of the most respected hookers in the country, Kurt's path to the top was anything but conventional.

He spent eight years working as a builder, and admits he never thought professional rugby was a realistic goal. After only starting two games for Auckland across four seasons, a devastating knee injury left him ready to walk away from rugby altogether. But after losing his mum to breast cancer, everything changed. Determined to make her proud, Kurt found a new purpose, reignited his love for the game, and eventually made his Super Rugby debut for the Blues at the age of 28.

Some other parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Why he never believed a professional rugby career was possible

- How losing his mum completely changed his outlook on rugby and life

- The story behind making and captaining the Māori All Blacks

- Winning Super Rugby with the Blues after years of grinding away

- Why he's heading to Japan and the next chapter for his young family

- His passion for fishing, protecting New Zealand's oceans and life beyond rugby

- Plenty more hilarious stories

Kurt is one of the most genuine people you'll come across. Humble, funny and incredibly self-aware, his story is a reminder that success doesn't always come early and that everyone's journey looks different. He truely is one of the great lads in NZ rugby!

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Antonio Shalfoon is someone who is a very different person off the field than he may seem on it. Known as a bit of a grub on the field, off the field he is one of the greats and his journey to professional rugby is as inspiring as any.

To start he wasn't offered his first full Super Rugby contract until the age of 26 after years of grinding away in club rugby, moving provinces to chase opportunities, and overcoming setbacks that would have made most people give up. Add to that Antonio opens up about the frightening story of being diagnosed with myocarditis, where he was told he may never play the game again.

Some other parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Hearing about the time he had a fight with a kids dad while playing Cricket

- Why he got punched in the head in his first Waikato training

- The scary heart condition that nearly ended his rugby career

- His pathway into the Crusaders and what kept him going

- His selection into the Maori All Blacks and what that mean for him

- Why he's signed in Japan for next season

And plenty more great yarns.

Antonio is exactly the type of person you want around a rugby team. He's funny, authentic, incredibly resilient and proof that there is no single pathway to achieving your goals. This was an awesome conversation and one I know you'll enjoy.

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Jeremy's story is one of the most powerful we've ever shared on What a Lad.

Growing up in an abusive household, Jeremy experienced years of physical violence. Carrying that trauma into adulthood, he eventually became the very person he never wanted to be, repeating the cycle of violence he had witnessed as a child.

In this incredibly honest conversation, Jeremy opens up about the darkest moments of his life, the roleplay that completely changed his perspective, and the counsellor who helped him confront his past for the first time. Today, he dedicates his life to helping others break the same cycle, working with men, families, organisations, and New Zealand Police to create lasting change.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Growing up surrounded by physical abuse and violence.

- His experience of sexual abuse at boarding school.

- How childhood trauma shaped his behaviour as an adult.

- The moment he realised he had become everything he hated.

- The roleplay exercise that changed his life forever.

- How he turned his lived experience into helping thousands of others across New Zealand.

- His advice for families supporting someone struggling with anger and violence.

This is one of the most courageous and important conversations we've ever had on the podcast. Jeremy's willingness to share both the harm he experienced and the harm he caused takes an incredible amount of honesty, and I have no doubt his story will help people better understand trauma, accountability, and the fact that real change is possible.

If you’re struggling with anger or worried about your behaviour, find support near you and take the first step. Changeispossible.org.nz

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Daniel Hobbs may not be a household name in New Zealand sport, but his story is one of the most powerful we've ever shared on What a Lad.

Known throughout Tasman rugby as a respected strength and conditioning coach, Daniel opens up about the horrific abuse he endured growing up at the hands of his stepfather. From living in constant fear, to enduring years of physical and emotional abuse, to the heartbreaking moment he nearly took his own life at just nine years old, this is a story of incredible resilience.

Daniel shares how he overcame the lasting effects of childhood abuse, the PTSD that still impacts him today, and why he made a conscious decision to become the kind of man and father he never had

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Growing up in a household filled with fear, violence and control.

- The unimaginable abuse he, his mum and sister endured for years.

- The moment he nearly took his own life at just nine years old.

- The long-term effects of PTSD and childhood trauma.

- Discovering the truth about his biological father later in life.

- Why he's most proud of breaking the cycle of abuse.

- His advice for anyone currently going through a difficult time.

This is one of the bravest conversations we've ever had on the podcast. Daniel's willingness to share his story is an incredible act of courage, and I have no doubt it will help people who are facing similar struggles or know someone who i

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Lukhan Salakaia-Loto has one of the most remarkable stories in Australian rugby. He didn't even start playing rugby union until Year 12, yet just a few years later he was making his Super Rugby debut before earning his first Wallabies cap against the Springboks.

In this episode of What a Lad, Lukhan opens up about the journey that shaped him. From missing representative teams as a teenager and using rejection as motivation, to becoming one of Australia's most respected forwards, playing for the Reds, Northampton Saints, the Rebels, the Barbarians and the Wallabies.

He also shares his thoughts on missing this year's Wallabies squad despite making the Super Rugby Team of the Year, why he's at peace with the decision, and how becoming a father has completely changed his perspective on rugby and life.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Starting rugby union in Year 12 after growing up playing rugby league

- Missing representative teams and the conversation with his dad that changed his mindset forever

- Earning his first Wallabies cap only a year after his Super Rugby debut

- The influence Brad Thorn had on his career and development

- His experiences playing for Northampton Saints, the Rebels, the Barbarians and against the British & Irish Lions

- Why family now comes before rugby and what he hopes his kids remember about him

Lukhan is one of the genuine good guys in rugby. Honest, humble and incredibly resilient, this conversation gives a great insight into the mindset behind one of Australia's best forwards.

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Ben Volavola has one of the most unique careers in world rugby. Across a 13-year professional journey, he's played for the Waratahs, Crusaders, North Harbour, Canterbury, Rebels, Racing 92, Bordeaux, Perpignan, Agen, Leicester Tigers, Queensland Reds and now returns home to join the Fijian Drua.

A two-time Rugby World Cup representative and one of Fiji's most experienced first fives, Ben has experienced the highs of winning Super Rugby and the lows of missing a Rugby World Cup squad. Throughout it all, he's built a reputation as one of rugby's ultimate professionals and a respected teammate wherever he's played.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Why rugby was the only plan he ever had growing up

- The decision to represent Fiji after coming through the Australian pathway

- What he learned from the Crusaders culture and why the best cultures win championships

- The heartbreak of missing Fiji's 2023 Rugby World Cup squad and how he found motivation again

- Playing alongside stars like Israel Folau & Richie Mo'unga

- Why he's returning home to join the Fijian Drua and help build the future of Fijian rugby

- The lessons he's taken from playing professionally across Australia, New Zealand, France and England

Ben has experienced almost every corner of professional rugby, but what stood out most was his humility, gratitude and perspective. This is a fascinating conversation about resilience, culture, leadership and what it really takes to build a long career in professional sport.

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The 2026 Super Rugby season is officially done and what a finish it was. The Hurricanes capped off a remarkable campaign with a dominant 60-5 victory in the final, producing one of the most complete performances we've seen in Super Rugby history.

In this episode, we break down the final, review some of our preseason predictions, discuss the standout performers from the year and look at what made the Hurricanes such a dominant force throughout the competition.

We also dive into Dave Rennie's first All Blacks squad, discussing the bolters, unlucky omissions, selection surprises and what the squad tells us about how the All Blacks will look to play moving forward.

Some of the topics discussed include...

- We breakdown what we thought were the keys to the Hurricanes success

- The players who stood out throughout the season

- Who had the best predictions from the preseason epiosde

- The biggest talking points from Dave Rennie's first All Blacks squad

- Which players were unlucky to miss selection

- Who could become the All Blacks' best player in 2026

- Predictions for the upcoming test season and South African tour

And heaps more

With the Super Rugby season wrapped up and a massive international season ahead, this was a great chance to reflect on the year that was and look ahead to what's shaping up as one of the biggest years for the All Blacks in recent memory.

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Liam Squire was one of the most feared players in world rugby, he had an incredible ability to throw his body into contact with zero thought of self preservation. While that approach helped Liam Squire the player, it's taken a serious toll on the body of Liam Squire the man. He's had an endless amount of injuries throughout his career and is now left with serious hip pain, shoulder pain and knee pain as he moves into the next chapter of his life.

In this Fan Favourite episode of What a Lad, Liam opens up about the full journey through rugby and life. From growing up in Tokoroa and finding his way into professional rugby, to becoming an All Black, dealing with injuries, stepping away from the 2019 Rugby World Cup and ultimately being forced into retirement.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

How quickly his rise from provincial rugby to becoming an All Black

Dealing with the fame of becoming an All Black

Winning a Super Rugby title with the Highlanders and the culture that made that team special

Why he never felt completely comfortable in the All Blacks environment

The pressure and scrutiny leading into the 2019 Rugby World Cup

His battles with injury and the mental toll of spending so much time on the sidelines

Being told by a surgeon that if he wanted quality of life later on, it was time to retire

How he has adjusted to life after rugby and what retirement has really been like

This episode was recorded back in 2021 but this conversation shows a side of him that most people have never seen. Honest, reflective and incredibly open, this is a fascinating insight into the highs and lows of professional rugby and the price that can come with giving everything to the game.

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Jayden Broome is one of the most inspiring young rugby players you'll come across. A proud Gore local who spent his childhood with a rugby ball in his hands with a dream to become a professional rugby player. He was doing everything he could to reach that dream and everything was tracking that way. He captained all Southland age grade sides before leading New Zealand Māori Schoolboys to a historic victory over New Zealand Schools and even earned a preseason opportunity with his beloved Southland Stags.

Then one moment changed everything for Jayden. After falling from a roof at a flat, Jayden suffered a traumatic brain injury that left him fighting for his life. He was placed in an induced coma, spent months in hospital and was ultimately forced to make the heartbreaking decision to walk away from the game he loved.

Despite everything he's been through, Jayden's outlook on life, positivity and determination to keep moving forward is what makes this episode so special.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Walking 40 minutes to school and back every day and how that shaped him

- Writing down his rugby goals as a teenager and dreaming of one day becoming an All Black

- Getting his opportunity with the Southland Stags and realising he was good enough to compete at that level

- The night of the accident and the reality of waking up after weeks in a coma

- Learning just how close he came to losing his life

- Coming to terms with the fact he would never play rugby again

- Why he chose life over rugby and the powerful message he now wants to share with others

- What his plans are in the future and how he wants to stay in the game

This is a story about much more than rugby. It's about resilience, perspective, gratitude and finding purpose when the path you thought you were on suddenly disappears. Jayden's maturity, positivity and self-awareness at such a young age make this one of the most powerful conversations we've had on the podcast.

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Kieran Read is one of the greatest All Blacks of the professional era. A two-time Rugby World Cup winner, four-time Super Rugby champion and former All Blacks captain, Kieran built a career defined by consistency, leadership and an incredible work ethic.

From a typical Kiwi childhood in Papakura, to representing Counties in both rugby and cricket, Kieran's path to the top wasn't as straightforward as many would think. He wasn't a player who came through every representative system, and by his own admission was a shy kid who often kept to himself. Yet through hard work, resilience and a constant desire to improve, he became one of the most respected leaders New Zealand rugby has ever produced.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

* Why cricket was arguably his best sport growing up and how close he came to pursuing it professionally

* The moment rugby went from being something he loved to something he wanted to chase seriously

* Making New Zealand Secondary Schools despite not being part of the traditional rugby pathway

* Playing 49 consecutive games at the start of his Crusaders career

* Becoming Canterbury captain at just 22 years old

* His memories of winning Rugby World Cups in 2011 and 2015

* Taking over from Richie McCaw as All Blacks captain and learning to lead in his own way

* The sacrifices that come with professional rugby and being away from family for long periods

* The leadership lessons he's taken from rugby into business and life after retirement

Kieran is one of those rare people whose achievements speak for themselves, yet remains incredibly humble. This episode is packed with stories from one of rugby's greatest careers, along with plenty of lessons on leadership, resilience and personal growth.

Let us know what you thought of this episode in the comments 👇

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Jeff McTainsh is quickly becoming one of the leading voices in New Zealand rugby. From growing up in Dunedin dreaming of the All Blacks, to commentating games off the TV as a kid, Jeff has built an incredible career through persistence, passion and years of hard work behind the scenes.

After working through radio, journalism, TV news and sports reporting, Jeff slowly carved his way into the commentary world — eventually earning the opportunity to call All Blacks test matches on Sky Sport. Along the way he’s covered Olympic Games, NPC rugby, Super Rugby, international rugby and become one of the most respected commentators in the country.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- The story behind sending a commentary clip to Sky Sport in hopes of getting an opportunity

- Getting the call to commentate college rugby and how that changed everything

- The surreal moment he got called in to commentate the All Blacks at Eden Park

- How commentators prepare for games, player pronunciations and big moments

- His hilarious impressions of Dave Rennie, Ray Warren, Hamish McKay and more

- Why balance, fitness and routine completely changed his life over the last few years

- His thoughts on the future of rugby, commentary and the All Blacks

Jeff is one of those genuine good blokes who clearly loves rugby and loves storytelling. This episode is full of awesome insight into sports broadcasting, plenty of laughs, some elite impressions and a seriously cool story about chasing a passion and slowly building your way to the top.

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Bryce Heem is one of the most underrated rugby players New Zealand has produced. From leaving school early and working trades, to partying his way through his late teens, Bryce carved out a 15-year professional rugby career through hard work, resilience and taking every opportunity that came his way.

Playing for the Auckland, Northland, Tasman, the Chiefs, the Blues, NZ Sevens, Worcester and Toulon, Bryce built a career that took him all around the world and made him one of the most respected teammates in the game.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- How he's found his transition from rugby to mortgage broking

- Going from working in refrigeration and air conditioning to marking Hosea Gear in his first professional game

- The brutal fitness standards and lessons he learned under Gordon Tietjens in NZ Sevens

- Why he chose to leave New Zealand rugby for Worcester and the reality of overseas rugby life

- Returning home from France after his dad was diagnosed with lung cancer

- How a simple message helped earn him a contract with the Blues

- Winning Super Rugby with the Blues after years of being so close

- His thoughts on missing out on the All Blacks and why he has no regrets about his career

- Why “don’t burn bridges” became one of the biggest lessons he learned through rugby

Bryce is one of those lads everyone he played with will conform he's a legendary man. Tough as nails on the field, humble off it and full of great perspective from a career that took him all over the world. Plenty of laughs, honest reflections and awesome stories in this one!

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Peter Gubb is one of rugby league’s great characters. A Queensland Cup legend known for his physicality, longevity and hilarious stories, Gubby shares plenty of great yarns in this one. From the 3rd XV at school to still playing high-level footy at 37, his journey is anything but ordinary.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Hearing his side of the story on what growing up was like for him with his brother Charlie.

- The reality of chasing an NRL dream.

- His unique thoughts on training, longevity and being a “lifetime trainer”

- The dangers of superstitions and when they can become too much

- What the ultimate amount of caffeine is to take pre a podcast

- His thoughts on confidence, backing yourself and saying yes to opportunities

And some of the funniest stories you'll hear!

It's not often I'll listen back to and episode and be laughing out loud but there's something about the Gubb brothers that crack me up! Peter is one of those blokes you could listen to for hours — authentic, funny and just a genuine lad.

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Brad Thorn is one of the most unique athletes to ever come out of New Zealand. A cross-code legend known for his physicality, discipline and longevity, Thorn built an incredible career winning amore variety of titles than anyone to have played the game.

In this episode of What a Lad, Thorny opens up about his full journey through rugby league and union. From dominating in the NRL as a teenager, to making the bold decision to switch codes and start again, and everything it took to become one of the most respected forwards in world rugby.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Reflecting on previous stories that had been told on the podcast about him before

- The moment his mindset changed and he was a whole different beast

- How he dealt with what came with being an NRL star as a teenager

- Making the call to leave rugby league at his peak and sacrifice his prime years to learn rugby union

- Being told he was hurting the team and how he dealt with that pressure

- The mindset behind his training and pushing himself when no one else was watching

- The pressure of playing for the All Blacks and what it really means to represent New Zealand

- Winning the Rugby World Cup and how it felt in the moment

- His journey into head coaching at the Reds and the pressure involved with that

- His reflections on his career and the standards he held himself to throughout

And heaps more!

This episode is full of honesty, perspective and a real look into what it actually takes to reinvent yourself at the highest level. Thorny is one of the toughest and most respected players to do it, and this one gives a proper insight into how he became that guy.

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Seti Tafua has one of the most powerful and inspiring stories you’ll hear in New Zealand rugby. A talented young player chasing his dream overseas, Seti’s life changed in an instant after a horrific neck injury left him paralysed and fighting for his life. Doctors told him he may never walk again.

In this episode of What a Lad, Seti opens up about that journey through rugby and life. From the moment of the injury, to the reality of being unable to move, the long road through rehab, and the mindset that helped him defy the odds and walk again. He also shares how he found purpose after rugby and built a new career as the Hurricanes Analyst.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- The moment he made a tackle and instantly knew something was seriously wrong

- Being told by doctors he would likely have to rely on others for the rest of his life

- Spending over two years in a wheelchair and the reality of daily rehab

- The mindset he used to stay positive and never give up despite the odds

- Taking his first steps again and the emotion that came with it

- The unbelievable support from the rugby community during his recovery

- How he managed to become part of the Hurricanes Analyst team.

- His outlook on life now and the importance of staying positive and being grateful

And heaps more!

This episode is incredibly powerful. Seti’s mindset, resilience and positivity through everything he’s been through is something special. He’s the kind of person that puts life into perspective and reminds you what really matters.

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Jason Holland is one of the most respected coaches in New Zealand rugby. A brilliant rugby mind known for his attacking detail, leadership and ability to get the best out of people. The man known as Alfie has built an impressive career through Manawatu, Taranaki, Munster, Canterbury, the Hurricanes and the All Blacks.

In this episode of What a Lad, Alfie opens up about his full journey through rugby, from a young kid growing with a love for the game, to coaching the All Blacks and everything in between.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Always having a ball in hand as a kid and how rugby became ingrained in him from a young age

- While always loving the game but not always training as hard as he could have

- Heading overseas to Munster and the moment he realised what it took to become a true professional

- Spending over a decade at Munster as both a player and coach and how that shaped his career

- Getting the opportunity to move into coaching and the challenges involved

- His time with the Hurricanes and winning a Super Rugby title with a special group of players

- The transition into the All Blacks environment and the pressure that comes with coaching at the very top

- Reflection on his time in the All Blacks and an insight into his decision to step away

- An insight into his move to Head Coach the Blues next season.

And heaps more!

This episode is full of insight, honesty and some great perspective on the realities of professional rugby and coaching. Alfie was one of my all time favourite coaches, such a genuinely good guy who loves talking footy. I'm sure you'll enjoy this episode as much as I did.

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Marc Ellis is one of the most iconic and entertaining characters New Zealand rugby has ever produced. A former All Black known for his speed, skill and ability to light up a game, Ellis became just as famous off the field for his larger-than-life personality, quick wit and outrageous stories that have become the stuff of legend.

In this episode of What a Lad, Marc opens up about the journey through rugby and beyond. From his rise through Otago and into the All Blacks, to the wild days of student life, media, business ventures and everything in between, this one is packed with laughs, chaos and a few unexpected insights.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

His rise through Otago rugby and what it took to reach the All Blacks

The famous stories from his university days and how loose things really got

Buying a fire engine with his mates and the chaos that came with it

The reality behind some of the stories people have heard over the years

His mindset around taking opportunities and backing yourself

His memories from the All Blacks including score 6 or 8 tries in one game!

How he found the Warriors and the culture difference to rugby

His perspective on risk, failure and why you’ve just got to have a crack

And heaps more!

This episode is pure entertainment. Marc brings unbelievable energy, humour and honesty, with story after story that somehow just keep getting better. There’s a lot of laughs in this one, but also some great perspective around life, backing yourself and making the most of every opportunity.

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Cameron Suafoa is one of the toughest and most resilient players ever! A hard-working loose forward who earned everything through grit and determination, Cam built his career through Auckland, Tasman and North Harbour before becoming a standout for the Blues and earning selection for the Māori All Blacks and All Blacks XV.

In this What a Lad exclusive, Cam opens up like never before. From his journey through the rugby ranks to the battle he’s faced off the field, this is an incredibly powerful and emotional conversation. Cam shares what it was like being diagnosed with a rare sarcoma, playing rugby while unknowingly dealing with cancer, and the physical and mental toll that followed.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- The determination to fight for every opportunity as a player coming through

- Finding a lump in his back and later being diagnosed with a high grade sarcoma

- Playing through the NPC season while unknowingly dealing with cancer

- Undergoing surgery to remove the tumour and the brutal recovery that followed

- Going through radiation while still training and playing rugby

- The moment he found out his cancer had returned and spread

- Coming to terms with being told he is terminally ill

- The mindset he’s used to stay positive through everything

- Leaning on family, especially his wife Britt, during the toughest moments

- Making the most of life and appreciating the small things

This episode was the hardest episode I've ever done but honestly Cam's positive outlook and ability to see things for what they are was incredible to witness. His honesty, courage and perspective are seriously inspiring. The way he has held himself during his battle has been so impressive, he's such a champion man who I know will fight with all he can.

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Pasilio Tosi is one of the most unique stories in New Zealand rugby right now. A 140kg powerhouse known for his brutal scrummaging and ball carrying, Tosi has quickly become a key figure for the Hurricanes and has fully earnt his place as an All Black. But his journey to the top was anything but straightforward.

In this episode of What a Lad, Tosi opens up about that journey through rugby and life. From working on the veggie farms with his old man, to moving away from home at a young age, battling through the Southland system as a number 8, and eventually making the switch to prop that changed everything.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Growing up and the work ethic he learned from his dad working long days on the farms

- Playing both rugby league and union before being forced to choose between the two

- Moving away to Rotorua Boys and dealing with homesickness and losing his mum during school

- Heading down to Southland, living alone for the first time and learning how to be independent

- Playing as a number 8 before making the tough decision to switch to prop

- Getting “pumped every scrum” early on and learning the dark art of scrummaging

- Putting on 20+ kilos during lockdown and the wake-up call that followed

- Struggling financially early in his Hurricanes career while supporting a young family

- Missing selection and being told he needed more experience before finally getting his chance

- The moment Jason Ryan told him he was close to the All Blacks

- Getting the call that he had made the All Blacks and what that meant for his family

- And heaps more!

This episode is full of honesty, humour and real insight into what it takes to make it at the highest level. Pasi is one of the real characters in the game, great energy, enjoys life and is full of sharns! There are some classic stories in this one and a lot of perspective around the journey.

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Paul Tito is one of the most respected figures in New Zealand rugby. A tough, uncompromising forward known for his work rate, leadership and physicality, Paul built an outstanding career with Taranaki, the Hurricanes and overseas with Cardiff, where he played over 120 games and captained the club.

In this episode of What a Lad, Fish opens up about the full journey through rugby and coaching. From getting thrown into provincial rugby at just 18, to playing alongside legends like Jonah Lomu, Christian Cullen and Tana Umaga

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Getting told at 18 he was starting against Argentina

- Playing alongside Hurricanes legends like Jonah Lomu, Christian Cullen and Tana Umaga

- The call from John Mitchell that made him think he was about to be named an All Black

- Missing out on selection and how he reflects on his career without regrets

- His move overseas to Cardiff and becoming a leader and captain of the club

- Finishing his playing career and transitioning into coaching

- Starting out coaching his school and working his way into professional rugby

- Moving to France and spending 18 months away from his family during COVID

- The sacrifices that come with coaching and constantly being away from home

- His experience coaching Georgia and being part of a historic win over Wales

- Why he believes taking opportunities is the key to building a great career

This episode is full of honesty, perspective and classic rugby stories. Fish shares the highs, the setbacks, and the sacrifices that come with a life in rugby, both as a player and a coach. There’s some seriously good insight in this one and a few unreal stories along the way.

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Tane Edmed is one of the most exciting young playmakers in Australian rugby. A great Aussie lad with a fierce competitive edge and a relentless work ethic, Tane has already built an impressive career with the Waratahs, North Harbour, the Brumbies and of course represented his country with the Wallabies.

In this episode of What a Lad, Tane opens up about the journey to international rugby. From chasing his dream growing up in Sydney to taking a risk heading to North Harbour, where a standout NPC season helped launch him into the Wallabies squad. He also shares the reality of professional rugby from the pressure, the setbacks, and the lessons that come with it.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Growing up in Sydney in a house full of sport and why cricket was originally his dream

- His journey through rugby league and union before committing to rugby

- Why he believes hard work has always been his biggest strength

- Taking the opportunity to head to North Harbour and how that season helped his game

- The moment he saw Joe Schmidt calling and realised he might be heading to the Wallabies

- Making his Wallabies debut and the brutal reality of being knocked out after just two minutes

- Learning how to deal with pressure, criticism and expectations in professional sport

- The mindset shifts that helped him enjoy rugby again

- His goals with the Brumbies and the dream of playing in a home Rugby World Cup

This episode is full of honesty, perspective and some great insights from one of the most thoughtful young players in the game. Tane talks openly about the ups and downs of chasing the dream and the lessons he’s learned along the way. He's a wise soul and great lad!

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Patrick Tuipulotu has been one of the most respected forwards in world rugby for over a decade. A powerful lock known for his physicality, leadership and work ethic, Patrick has built an incredible career with the Blues and the All Blacks, playing more than 50 tests for his country and captaining the Blues to Winning A Super Rugby title.

In this episode of What a Lad, Patty opens up like never before. From the highs of becoming an All Black to the setbacks that nearly ended his career, there are some unbelievable stories in this one.

Some parts that stood out for me in this episode were…

- Growing up in Auckland and how his dad shaped his work ethic

- Switching from basketball to rugby and discovering First XV footy

- The moment John Kirwan told him he was an All Black

- The brutal injuries he’s battled throughout his career

- Missing the 2015 Rugby World Cup and how hard that was to take

- The mistake that cost him the chance to play the Lions

- The false positive drug test that nearly led to a four year ban

- Winning championships with the Blues and leading the club

- His perspective on rugby, family and life after the game

This episode is full of honesty, perspective and some unbelievable yarns from one of the most respected men in New Zealand rugby. Patty shares the highs, the lows, the mistakes, and the lessons he’s learned throughout his career.

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Tim Bateman is a former professional rugby player who has transitioned from pro sport into the world of business and for me personally is the smartest man I met in the game.

Every conversation I have ever had with him I have learnt something and this is certainly no different. From the structure and discipline of professional rugby to the chaos and pressure of running a fast-growing wellness franchise, Tim opens up about what it really takes to build something that lasts. He speaks honestly about fear of failure, responsibility, timing, sales, leadership, and why business can feel even harder than playing the game.

In this episode of What a Lad, Tim breaks down the framework he uses to think about business — PRIME — This is a real look at what works, what fails, and what most people get wrong before they even start.

In this episode, we cover…

- The fear of failure that drives him

- Why business is “sport on steroids”

- The first question you need to ask before starting a business

- Why opportunity comes before passion

- Why product is the most important part of any business

- The biggest factor in success (and it’s not talent or resources)

- Why great businesses can still fail

- Sales being the lifeblood of a business

- Building systems so your business doesn’t rely on you

- The importance of energy, language, and culture

- Risk, timing, and why waiting until you feel ready might be too late

Tim is articulate, thoughtful, and refreshingly honest about what life after rugby can look like. This episode is packed with practical wisdom for athletes, entrepreneurs, and anyone thinking about building something of their own.

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Pita Ahki is living proof that careers aren’t always built in a straight line.

From struggling for opportunities in New Zealand and watching contracts dry up, to being told by Toulouse doctors that he had a “bad knee” and might not even get signed — Ahki’s journey could have gone very differently. Instead, he backed himself, took the gamble, and went on to become a 5x Top 14 champion and 2x Champions Cup winner in one of the toughest competitions in world rugby.

In this episode of What a Lad, Pita opens up about the tough years at the Blues and Hurricanes, asking Super Rugby teams for any opportunity just to stay in the system, nearly walking away from the game after failing a medical in France, and the sliding doors moment that changed everything.

In this episode, we cover…

- Growing up in Auckland and the Kelston Boys brotherhood

- Making NZ U20s and starting NPC straight out of school

- The struggles of injury battles while trying to crack it

- Asking Super Rugby teams for wider training — and getting nothing

- Taking a six-month deal at Connacht just to stay alive in the game

- Flying to Toulouse, signing a pre-contract, and being told he had a “bad knee”

- Nearly walking away from rugby

- Starting a Top 14 final and chasing that feeling year after year

- Winning 5 Top 14 titles and 2 Champions Cups

- Life in France, the culture, and playing with Antoine Dupont

- Representing Tonga at a Rugby World Cup

- Why he returned to the blues

- And of course his memory of the classic Pita Pit prank!

This episode is a deep dive into resilience, growth, sacrifice, and what it really takes to turn rejection into legacy. It’s honest, reflective, and full of perspective from a man who’s seen both sides of the game. Pita is a champion man, such a legend and it's awesome seeing him back out there in Super Rugby!

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Tom Savage is one of those players who never took the easy route and deserves every bit of success that he gets!

From jumping from level five rugby to the Premiership in a single summer, to playing over 190 games for Gloucester, moving to Japan at the peak of his career, and now helping build something special at Moana Pasifika — Savage’s story is built on consistency, work ethic, and knowing exactly what he brings to a team.

In this episode of What a Lad, Tom opens up about having no academy pathway, cleaning changing rooms just to stay in the game, the shock of his Premiership debut at Franklin’s Gardens, and what it really takes to last at the top level for over a decade.

In this episode, we cover…

- Growing up without a clear rugby pathway and discovering the game later than most

- Choosing Hartpury as his only route into professional rugby

- How he managed to play 190+ games in one of the toughest competitions in the world

- Why he left Gloucester after eight years of loyalty

- The unexpected call to move to Japan

- The chaos of COVID and flying home to an empty Heathrow Airport

- What Japanese rugby is really like behind the scenes

- Joining Moana Pasifika and buying into the culture

- Leadership lessons learned across three different countries

- Differences between Premiership, Japan & Super rugby

This episode is a proper deep dive into resilience, professionalism, and building a career the long way. Plenty of lessons, plenty of perspective, and exactly what you’d expect from an all-time team man.

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Super Rugby is back! And so is the What a Lad Super Rugby Preview and who better to talk to than the great Searley from Searley Talks Sport to break down everything you need to know about Super Rugby 2026.

We go through every team, highlight key players and share some bold predictions as we look forward to what looks to be the tightest and most entertaining Super Rugby season ever!

In this episode, we cover…

- Why the Hurricanes are genuine championship contenders

- Whether this is finally the Chiefs year

- How the new Christchurch stadium could change the Crusaders style

- The Highlanders backline and their game-breaking X-factor

- What Aussie teams are a real threat

- Players who could force their way into All Blacks selection

- Why the Fijian Drua at home is one of the toughest trips in rugby

- The new law changes and how they may change the game

- Round one predictions and season top-four picks

- And heaps more!

If you're excited about Super Rugby than this episode is for you, and if you're not, well I suggest you give it a listen anyway and just feel your fizz levels for this great competition build aggressively.

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Manasa Mataele is one of the players who is incredibly hard to tackle! His power, speed, athleticism, and freakish offloads has made him hard to handle for any opposition! From growing up in Suva, Manasa’s journey has taken him from Fiji to New Zealand, across to Australia, and now back home with the Fijian Drua.

In this episode of What a Lad, Manasa opens up with rare honesty. He reflects on the highs of Super Rugby, the pride of representing Fiji, and the moments that nearly forced him away from the game altogether. From battling injuries and self-doubt, to losing his mum and questioning whether he could keep going, this is a powerful look at resilience, faith, and finding purpose beyond rugby.

In this episode, we cover…

- Growing up in Fiji and the environment that shaped him

- The sliding-doors moment that could have changed his life forever

- Moving to New Zealand and adapting to professional rugby

- His rapid rise through NPC and Super Rugby

- Almost signing with the Blues before a last-minute call from the Crusaders

- What it was like walking into a Crusaders locker room full of legends

- The mental battles that made him his own worst enemy

- His pride in representing Fiji on the international stage

- Losing his mum, fracturing his spine, and questioning his future

- The role faith played in getting him through his darkest moments

- Why returning home to play for the Fijian Drua means so much

- Wanting to give back and help the next generation of Fijian rugby players

As you'll hear Manasa is very articulate and honest about the journey rugby has taken him, he's such a good lad who will no doubt have a big season for the Drua!

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Chris Jack was one of the all time greats! A perfect combination of a massive workrate an incredible skillset, deceptive speed and a high rugby IQ which he showed during his 67 cap test career.

In this episode of What a Lad, you'll hear Chris like you've never heard him before. From the good times on winning championships to some of the struggles he faced, there is plenty in this one!

Some parts that stood out for me in this one were...

- How his brothers shaped his work ethic and toughness

- Making the Crusaders early and being thrown straight into a South Africa tour

- Old-school Crusaders culture and earning respect as a young player

- What it actually felt like being around All Black legends

- Scoring on debut and still feeling like he didn’t belong

- How he felt winning the NZ player of the year in 2002

- Dealing with shyness, pressure, and confidence off the field

- What happened during the 2007 RWC QF Loss

- Life after rugby and the lessons he learned

This episode is full of honest perspective from a man who always let his actions do the talking. Chris shares what the jersey meant to him, the cost that came with it, and why he wishes he’d enjoyed the moment more.

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Jeremy Manning’s rugby journey is anything but ordinary. At just 16 years old he was playing against for the Marlborough Red Devils in the NPC which included playing in a Ranfurly Shield game against Canterbury while still being at school. He made the NZ secondary schools team on the wing ahead of Hosea Gear and out of school decided to take up a year offer with the Munster academy. Fast forward a few years later and he's doing the Haka against the All Blacks for Munster in a match!

In this episode, we dive into:

- Growing up in Marlborough and spending hours kicking goals alone

- What it was like being a 16 year old playing with men under Grizz Wylie

- Making New Zealand Schools and then missing out on U19s and how that shaped his path

- Moving to Ireland and joining Munster

- Winning Heineken Cups and learning behind Ronan O’Gara

- Playing against the All Blacks for Munster and performing a Haka

- Why his time at Newcastle Falcons turned him off rugby

- Life after rugby, including working with the Royal Family

- Helping Fiji Sevens during their Olympic success

- The emotional journey of IVF, surrogacy, and becoming a father

Jeremy is a massive lad with an incredible story. His story is different to most and has had some unique challenges. The way he shares his story with such honesty and vulnerability is super powerful. I know you'll enjoy this one, so let me know what you thought in the comments.

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Cam McBride is the very talented man behind the camera responsible for bringing the Crusaders to life every week.

In this episode of What a Lad, Cam talks about his time in the police, finding a new career through content creation, and working behind the scenes at the Crusaders.

In this episode, we cover…

- What he's noticed from his first year working with the Crusader

- How he started working as a sports masseuse with sports teams

- Why he joined the New Zealand Police and working frontline for nearly a decade

- The toll it took on him and how hard it was witnessing some horrible scenes.

- Shooting everything from local rugby to weddings while still policing

- Applying for the Crusaders role and what set him apart

- Stepping into big shoes and overcoming imposter syndrome

- How trust with players is built behind the scenes

- What game day really looks like for a Super Rugby content creator

- Capturing iconic Crusaders moments — including finals runs

- His vision for the future of Crusaders content

This episode is an awesome insight into what's involved with being a content creator, huge insight, plenty of tips and all from a massive lad!

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produced and after this episode it’s easy to see why.

A 108-test All Black, multiple-time World Cup winner, and a cornerstone of the Crusaders’ most dominant era. Owen built his career on work ethic, consistency, and doing whatever it took to get himself in the best position to perform week in and week out.

In this episode of What a Lad, Owen opens up like never before. From earning respect as a young All Black, to facing a battle far bigger than rugby when he was diagnosed with testicular cancer. This is a rare look at what it actually takes to stay at the top — physically, mentally, and emotionally.

In this episode, we cover…

- Growing up in Motueka with his brother Ben

- How he put on the size to become a front rower

- The brutal start to professional rugby dislocating his elbow in his first Canterbury scrum

- His All Blacks debut and why he never felt overawed

- What the All Blacks environment is really like behind closed doors

- Earning respect, driving standards, and ruthless competition

- Walking out for World Cup finals

- Why he went to the gym the next day after World Cup glory

- The battle that came with being diagnosed with testicular cancer

- Why chemotherapy was tougher than any rugby pain

- Life after rugby, coaching, and a new perspective

This is one of the most inspiring episodes ever from a man who was (along with his brother) certainly the most professional player I ever saw. He’s someone who deserved every bit of success he got and I’m sure you’ll enjoy this one!

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Holly Parkes and Greg Johnson are two of the most purpose-driven people you’ll ever hear from.

Holly Parkes first came on the podcast during one of the toughest times of her life, sharing what it was really like trying to support someone battling a serious brain injury and searching for answers that never seemed to come. Greg is a former NZ SAS operator who spent years exposed to explosive blasts, before discovering his own brain injury had been misdiagnosed for years.

Together, they are now doing incredible work helping players, veterans, and everyday people who have struggled with brain injuries

From believing there was no hope to discovering a clinic that is actually helping people recover, this conversation is full of knowledge, and deeply important.

In this episode we dive into:

- Greg’s SAS career and how repeated blast exposure damaged his brain

- Being misdiagnosed with mental health issues instead of brain injury

- What brain injury actually does to your body, energy, personality and relationships

- Why so many athletes and veterans are slipping through broken pathways

- How Holly desperately searched for help and finally found a clinic doing things differently

- The Brain Health & Biofeedback Clinic in Dunedin and how it works

- Real people they are helping right now and the changes they’re already seeing

- Why brain injuries are not a death sentence

- What needs to change in sport, medicine, and support systems

And heaps more.

As you'll hear these two are super passionate about this topic which I know is a topic of relevance for many. The best thing about this episode is that if you are concerned or worried about your head there is hope!

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Reuben O’Neill has one of the most interesting stories in New Zealand rugby! A proud Taranaki lad, a cult hero in every team he’s played in, and a man who battled more adversity than most ever knew. From crippling cramps, constant injuries, and being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes — to somehow rising all the way into an All Blacks camp before he’d even played Super Rugby.

In this episode some of the things we talk about were..

- How he's always embraced being himself

- Being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes and having no idea how to manage it

- The shock All Blacks call-up having played just a few NPC games

- The setbacks of a Neck fusion surgery, Achilles issues, stress fractures and how he kept coming back

- How injuries turned him into a DJ, a truck driver, a nutritionist and more

- The story behind “DJ Mince on Toast”

- Why he believes the Crusaders have had more success than the Chiefs

And he answers all your questions!

Rueben is a unique human, always happy to be himself, enjoys taking the piss and is not afraid of awkwardness. He's genuine lad and someone who makes every environment better in his own unique way. I'm sure you will enjoy this inspiring story from this great man!

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The Welsh Rugby superstar Hadleigh Parkes is one of the great stories in rugby! A self described battler who played for Manawatu, Auckland, the Blues and the Hurricanes and at one point nearly walked away from the game altogether! It wasn't until a life changing call, a change of mindset and a move to Wales where he quickly turned himself into one of the best midfielders in the World!

In this episode here are some of the things we talk about:

- The glory days of ripping it up for Palmy boys with a stacked 1st XV side.

- Crazy stories from playing in South Africa

- The mindset shift that changed his entire career

- Why he felt it was so important to learn the Welsh national anthem

- Two tries on debut for Wales

- How he played in a Rugby World Cup with a broken hand!

- He answers all your questions!

- And so many more great yarns

Anyone who has played with Hadleigh will know he is one of the all time champion lads. The teammate you just you to be around. Such a humble man who has always enjoyed a good time! I'm sure you'll enjoy this one with the great man.

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Sam Lane is one of NZs very best hockey players and an absolute lad! He is 100+ gamer for the New Zealand Black Sticks, two-time Olympian, captain and full-time financial advisor… somehow all at once. His journey is one of the most unbelievable combinations of talent, tragedy, resilience and pure Kiwi grit you’ll hear.

This episode has everything — the brutal reality of playing for a national team with almost no funding, a run of injuries that would end most careers, the inspirational comeback to make the Paris Olympics, and the heartbreaking loss of his mum during the biggest years of his life.

In this episode, Sam opens up on:

- How NZ Hockey lost 60% of its funding overnight

- How humble the Black Sticks set up is with players literally having to take unpaid leave to represent their country

- The injury setbacks he's had including his knee exploding and his foot collapsing

- The emotional toll of losing his mum to cancer

- His partner Greta's horrific accident after being hit by a car

- The challenge to be available for the Paris Olympics

- What it’s really like playing in the Indian Hockey League

- And the mindset that’s kept him going through it all

He’s humble, tough, honest and one incredibly inspiring lad. I know you'll enjoy this one with the great kiwi Sam Lane!

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Freedom Vaha'akaolo’s story is one of the wildest and most emotional you’ll ever hear. He is one incredibly talented rugby player who certainly didn't take the typical pathway.

From the age of just 11 years old he was homeless, eating from trash cans, and learning how to survive. Years later, he was scoring tries for Otago using his speed and power which earned him a spot with the Highlanders.

During that time he was involved in a cruel catfish scam almost ended it all.

In this episode, Freedom opens up about:

- What made a kid with two loving parent want to be homeless

- What life was like on the streets as a young teenager

- The impact that moving to 7 new schools had on him

- His identity struggle coming from mixed heritage and the impact that had.

- How he made the NZ schools camp in basically his first year of rugby

- His pathway into professional rugby and the challenges involved.

- How an online relationship turned into a disaster being catfished,

- And how he’s rebuilt himself through faith, therapy, and sport again.

It’s raw. It’s real. It’s one of the most powerful stories ever shared on What a Lad and that is no exaggeration. Let me know what you thought about it in the comments👇

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Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens is one of the most electric players in New Zealand rugby!

A proud Taranaki man, who went from Blues prospect to a Highlanders star as his story takes a wild turn when a routine game left him with a fractured neck!

What followed is a powerful story of perspective, gratitude, and rediscovering his love for the game. Jacob’s honesty and maturity in this chat is incredible and the way he speaks about identity, family and resilience is seriously inspiring.

Some parts that stood out for me were..

• Growing up in Taranaki with his Fijian/Dutch heritage

• Breaking into Super Rugby straight out of school

• Losing the love for rugby and finding it again in Dunedin

• The incredible story of playing on with a broken neck

• How close he was to being paralysed

• The mindset shift that changed everything

• Life beyond rugby — content creation, purpose and gratitude

And heaps more

Jacob is genuine, humble and wise beyond his years. He's a real talent and someone I believe will have a massive future in the game. I'm sure you will enjoy this one!

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Two absolute lads on one outrageous mission. Alex and Ben decided they wanted to do something that would really push them to their limits for Movember so became the first ever to walk across New Zealand in a straight line. What followed was six days of chaos: rafting rivers in a leaking dinghy, crawling through blackberry, dodging bulls, and getting zapped by electric fences, all to raise money and awareness for men’s health.

In this episode they open up about around the challenges they have faced which included losing loved ones to prostate cancer and suicide. They found these challenges and Movember has given them a purpose bigger than themselves. They also reveal their next wild challenge as they continue their mission to get blokes talking and checking in.

Some bits that stood out for me were..

• Why they decided to walk in a perfectly straight line across NZ

• The madness of rafting rivers, bulls, and electric fences

• How the six-day adventure raised over $11,000 for Movember

• The deeper reason behind their mission – losing loved ones to men’s health battles

• The power of mateship during difficult times

• What they've got planned in the future

And heaps more!

It’s raw, funny and bloody inspiring. These lads are a serious reminder to talk to your mates, get checked, and step outside your comfort zone. If you've been thinking about getting something checked then get it checked today!

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Steve Devine is one of the toughest men to ever pull on a rugby jersey. A proud Aussie who moved over to NZ for an opportunity with Auckland, where he quickly made NZ home. Where the fearless competitive halfback played a huge part in Auckland and the Blues success. From that came an his chance to wear the All Black jersey which he managed to do 10 times.

But behind that toughness was a brutal reality, years of repeated head knocks that left him battling crippling migraines, light sensitivity, and a fight just to feel human again.

In this episode, Steve opens up on:

- Life growing up in Australia and why the move to NZ

- Stories from the Auckland and Blues glory days

- The 40+ concussions that changed his life

- The miracle treatment that helped him get his life back

- How he’s now leading the charge with NeuroCheck, a game-changing concussion scanner

- How he's found his transition with life after rugby becoming a fireman

And heaps more

Steve story is honest, powerful, emotional and even shocking at times. Sharing his story from a place of just wanting to help others and for no one having to go through what he has been through. He is such a champion lad and let me know what you thought of the episode in the comments.

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Tom Christie is one of the toughest workhorses in New Zealand rugby.

In this episode the multiple Super Rugby champion opens up on leadership, injuries, and why he’s leaving the Crusaders to chase a new challenge with Newcastle’s Red Bulls.

From captaining the NZ U20s to battling setbacks and rediscovering his love for the game, this is Tom Christie like you’ve never heard him before.

In this episode we chat about...

How he learnt to tackle as a young fella

What it meant leading the NZ U20s side

Life at the Crusaders and what it takes to stay consistent

How his mindset has changed around topping the tackle count

The injury battles and how he rebuilt his confidence

His honest reflections on missing All Blacks selection

How he's handled non selection better than anyone I have worked with

Why he's decide to move to Newcastle and the next chapter of his journey

And heaps more.

As you'll hear, Tom is such a champion and has played a massive part of the Crusaders success during his time. He's one of the most self aware and articulate players I have coached. While players love playing with him cause they just know he will never let you down. He is a lad!

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Mitchell Scott was one of the most talented outside backs in New Zealand rugby, electric pace, unreal footwork, and a try-scoring instinct few could match. But behind the highlight reels was a rollercoaster journey through tragedy, addiction, injuries, and redemption.

From losing his father at just three years old, to wearing an ankle bracelet just months before representing New Zealand U20s in one of the greatest teams ever assembled. Mitch’s story is raw, honest and full of lessons.

In this episode we dive into:

- His early years and the loss that shaped his drive.

- The influence of drugs and alcohol from a young age

- How he made the NZ 20s after just coming off home detention.

- Why he had to get out of Perth while playing for the force

- Addiction, psychosis and recovery

- Finding peace, purpose and passion again through coaching in Otago

- The power of mental health, routine, and clean living

- How he’s preparing for fatherhood and helping young players avoid his mistakes

And heaps more.

This episode sums up what the What a Lad podcast is all about, it’s brutally honest, funny, emotional, and inspiring, a true What a Lad story!

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Jacob Ellison is one of Wellington’s great unsung heroes – a tough, mobile front-rower who gave absolutely everything every time he pulled on a jersey. From the Wellington Lions and Hurricanes to the Highlanders, the Māori All Blacks and several seasons in Japan, Jacob built a reputation as the ultimate team man.

But this chat is about far more than scrums. Jacob opens up about his remarkable life:

His unusual pathway from the wing to the front row

The shift from Hurricanes to Highlanders and life as a “middle-ground” pro

How he's managed having epilepsy throughout his career

His powerful and emotional journey with IVF, loss and finally becoming a dad

The key to managing the life after rugby transition

Some classic stories including an interesting epilepsy diagnosis from a Japanese doctor

Learning the hard way about agents, contracts and preparing for life after rugby

And heaps more including your questions!

It’s funny, raw and inspiring – from yellow-jersey court sessions to Jamie Joseph’s sniper-rifle pep talks, right through to the lessons he passes on to young players today.

If you love genuine stories from genuine people, this is a special listen.

#WhatALad #RugbyPodcast #JacobEllison

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Kylem O’Donnell is a lad who has truly lived the highs and lows of chasing the rugby dream. From starring at Hamilton Boys’ High to winning an NPC title with Taranaki and travelling the world with the All Blacks Sevens, he looked destined for it all. But behind the speed, fitness and flair, Kylem’s story is one of setbacks, mental battles, and resilience.

In this episode he opens up like never before from the challenge of dealing with injuries and non-selection, to a being on the receiving end of brutal bouncer assault. He even shares some incredibly hard moments in his life including a terrifying drug-induced psychosis that had him running along the motorway naked! However the most powerful of all are the moments where Kylem shares his raw struggles with mental health, including times he nearly didn’t make it through, and the support that helped him fight back.

This episode is not just about the rugby it’s about honesty, vulnerability, and rediscovering who you are. An incredible chat with a man who is now using his own journey to inspire and help others.

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Mark Hammett has done it all in the game. With 81 games for the Crusaders, 4 Super Rugby titles, 29 Tests for the All Blacks and now a spot in the Crusaders Hall of Fame, Hammer’s rugby journey is an incredible one. Add in a coaching career that’s taken him from the Crusaders, Hurricanes, Cardiff Blues, Sunwolves, Tasman and Highlanders, the influence he has had on each side has been huge!

In this episode we dive into his remarkable journey: from a soccer player, to the early days of professional rugby, and the mindset that carried him through as both player and coach.

In this episode we go through..

The competitive edge that drove the Crusaders dynasty

What he learnt from coaches like Robbie Deans and Wayne Smith

The realities of early professional rugby contracts and suspensions

All Black memories including the infamous SAS camp

His move to coach the Hurricanes & the controversial decisions around Ma’a Nonu and Andrew Hore

His stints overseas with Cardiff and Japan’s Sunwolves

Lessons learned at the Highlanders and what he’d do differently

His passion for neuroscience, brain health and life after rugby

What he’s most proud of and the advice he lives by

And heaps more

Hammer is humble, competitive, brutally honest and one of the most authentic leaders you’ll hear from. There's so much gold in this one for everyone and whether you loved him or not as a player or a coach I know you'll have a new found respect for him after this one!

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Will Genia is one of the all-time great halfbacks and after this conversation I'm sure you'll understand why. With over 100 Tests for the Wallabies, a Super Rugby title with the Reds and stints with the Rebels, Stade Francais and the Kintetsu Liners Will had a bit of everything in his career!

In this episode we dive into his remarkable journey: from growing up in Papua New Guinea where he dreamt of becoming a cricketer, to falling in love with Rugby and the insane work ethic that took him from Colts to the Wallabies in the blink of an eye.

In this episode we go through..

One of the strongest mindsets to continually get better I have hear.

His journey through the grades and how he felt like an imposter at each step.

Winning super rugby and that incredible try that he scored in that final!

The highs and heartbreaks of three Rugby World Cups

His brutal ACL injury and his comeback to star against the Lions

Life in France and six more years in Japan

Why he walked away when he still could’ve played on

His transition into coaching alongside Quade Cooper

And heaps more.

If you think you work hard this episode might question that, Wills work ethic and drive blew me away. He's also humble, honest, insightful and just one of the absolute great lads!

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In this powerful episode I’m joined by Holly Parkes, someone who lived through the reality of caring for Shane Christie in his final years. Holly has bravely come on the podcast not for herself, but to continue Shane’s mission, to shine a light on the devastating impact of brain injuries and to give others a clearer understanding of what life with CTE really looks like.

She opens up about what it was like supporting Shane day-to-day, the heartbreaking changes she witnessed, and the strength it took to stand by him as he fought through some heavy paranoia episodes. Holly also shares her own journey — the lessons, the love, and the hope she wants to pass on to players, families, and anyone impacted by brain injury.

This was the hands down the heaviest podcast I've ever done. It’s raw, honest and emotional, but above all it’s a conversation that Holly wanted to have so that Shane’s suffering wasn’t in vain. This is an episode that will move you, challenge you, and hopefully help those who might be facing similar battles.

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Du’Plessis Kirifi has had one of the more inspiring journeys to the top and is one heck of lad to top it off. From growing up in Taranaki and spending part of his childhood in Samoa, to working three jobs while chasing his rugby dream, Dups has had anything but a straight road to the top.

He opens up on the setbacks that shaped him — missing out on NZ U20s after being told he was “good enough but a bit of a dickhead”, the grind of trying to pack on size when everyone said he was too small, and the lessons he learned from competing hard in his early Hurricanes days.

But through sheer hard work and resilience, he’s gone from labouring on worksites and sleeping in mates’ garages to captaining Wellington, becoming a leader at the Hurricanes, and finally achieving his All Black dream.

In this episode we chat about…

An inspiring story of perseverance, self-awareness — this is such a good epiosde. Dups is not only a competitor on the field but also one of the most thoughtful and articulate players in the game. What a lad!

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The latest Western Force signing George Bridge is our guest this week and what a lad he is! From humble beginnings in Gisborne, to carving up for Canterbury, the Crusaders, and then going on to wear the black jersey on the biggest stage of all! But it hasn’t all been smooth sailing. George had his struggles moving down to Christchurch as a 17 year old, he had to deal with some brutal injuries – knees, pec tears, appendicitis, he had three surgeries in eight months! He even played a Super Rugby Final with a nasty vomit bug. Despite all that, he kept bouncing back and showing his class and always finishing of tries!

Some highlights for me in this one were..

Hearing why he made the leap from Gisborne to Christchurch,

The pathway he took to becoming an All Black,

The influence of Leon MacDonald,

The heartbreak of the 2019 World Cup semi-final,

Why he moved to France and how he found it

His next chapter with the Force,

And heaps more including all your questions.

George is someone who always took his opportunity on the field through work rate and the never give up attitude. Players loved playing with this man cause he would never let them down and he is a champion lad!

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For this one I am joined by one of the Black Ferns’ most exciting talents, Amy du Plessis. Amy’s journey has been nothing short of inspiring, from growing up in South Africa to becoming a Rugby World Cup winner with the Black ferns! Her silky skills and ability to play anywhere has made her a hugely valuable asset for NZ Rugby and now she’s now preparing to take on the world again in the 2025 Rugby World Cup! 

In this episode we chat about..

* Life growing up in South Africa and why her family moved to NZ

* How she got into Rugby

* Why she travelled 5 hours a day to play for Otago

* Why her move to Canterbury was “the best thing I’ve ever done”

* Being named in the Black Ferns and working under legends Wayne Smith & Graham Henry

* Playing in front of sold-out crowds and winning the RWC

* Her love for Super Rugby and Matatū

* The build-up to the upcoming RWC and her expectations heading in

* And plenty of great advice

As you’ll hear, Amy is such a champion human, and this yarn is packed with stories, laughs and some really inspiring takeaways. This is such a cool insight into the women’s game as we look to cheer on our Black Ferns to hopefully another RWC!

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Angus Ta’avao is one of the biggest characters in New Zealand rugby, someone who is always good value to be around and has a great ability to bring a side together with his personality.

Angus has done it all: NPC champ with Taranaki, Super Rugby champ with the Blues, he's an All Black, TV star, saxophone shredder and he is still playing rugby as good as he ever has! Angus is the ultimate lad.

In this episode we get into

- Why he has decided to move down to the Highlanders for 2026!

- He talks through the moment when he said he’d never play rugby again.

- He reflects on "that tackle" where he was concussed, red carded and suspended.

- The journey he has been on as a father

- He goes through the potential options for life after footy

- We chat why he’s decided to move south

- And of course plenty of random chat

This one’s got everything – laughs, honesty and a heap of inspiration from one of the great characters of our game.

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Oli Mathis is one of the most talented young players in the country. The Hamilton Boys star produced some of the most iconic NZ Schools performances we’ve ever seen. Whether he’s been playing loose forward or on the wing, the 20-year-old has been unstoppable playing for Waikato, the All Blacks 7’s side & the NZ U20s.

In this episode, we chat about:

As you’ll hear Oli is a passionate rugby man, he always has been! And then when he’s not on the field, he is up on the hills hunting in true kiwi style. This is an awesome insight into someone with a huge future ahead of him, a special talent and one of the great lads.

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Jamison Gibson Park has gone on to be without a doubt one of the best 9s in world rugby! He's one of my favourite players to watch the way he plays with speed and controls the tempo of games while always nailing the basics. He was also one of my favourite team mates to play with because he was just a massive lad. 4 years ago this episode was recorded where he had just debuted for Ireland so it's pretty cool to hear some of the conversations we had around his future plans to see how far he has exceeded them!

Some other parts that stood out for me in this episode...

Hearing about the rural upbringing Jamison had on Great Barrier Island.

How he handled missing out on the NZ 20's even though many felt he should've been in there.

How he was shafted by the Blues.

Winning the Super Rugby with the Hurricanes, starting as a wider squad member.

Why he left NZ.

How he had found it over in Ireland & with Leinster.

And heaps more!

As you'll hear, Jammo is a massive lad and it's been so cool seeing him starring at RWC's with Ireland and now on the Lions tour. He is one of the greats!

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Daniel Bell might not be a recognisable name for you all, but as soon as you hear that voice – you will definitely recognise the voice. The man widely regarded for having the greatest larynx in the country which we have heard delivering some of the great moments in Heartland Rugby! Donny Bell has an infectious love for the game and brings the fizz like no other.

In this episode, we chat about:

•Why he always wanted to be a commentator as a kid 

•Commentating with some of his childhood hero’s including Chainsaw Laney

•His commentary impersonations of almost every commentator in the game (including the South African special!)

•An awesome insight into what goes on behind the mic 

•Plenty of great yarns from travelling around the country

And heaps more! 

This is a very entertaining episode with a great insight into what goes on behind the mic, Donny brings impressive energy to this one and I voice I could listen to all day.

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Sam Darry is a massive lad! Standing at over 2 metres tall and at just 24 years old the man has achieved and been through a lot! And it feels like he is still just getting started,

After dominating schoolboy footy, Sam signed with Canterbury young and then made a bold move to head north to the Blues, a decision that he felt gave him the opportunity to become one of the best young locks in the game. It's fair to say it's worked out pretty well for him, being an important piece of the puzzle in the Blues 2024 winning season and going on to become an All Black.

In this episode we dive into:

Big Sam Darry is sharp, humble, and full of unreal yarns. He is on his way to becoming one of the greats, and this episode gives you an insight into the journey and the man of the future legend.

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No one has won more Super Rugby titles than Mitchell Drummond! A man who has done it all in the red and black jersey, Drummy has won 3 NPC titles with Canterbury and a ridiculous 8 Super Rugby titles with the Crusaders – yes, 8 titles! Add to that a test for the All Blacks, a stint with the Barbarians, over 100 games for Canterbury, and being the youngest ever Crusaders centurion and you start to get the picture.

But beyond the stats, Mitch has been the Glue Guy for the Canterbury Region for over a decade, a man who has genuinely put the team first and always nailed his role in the side whatever that may be.

In this episode, we chat about:

- An exclusive announcement on where he will be playing his rugby this season

- Why he chose Rugby over a promising Cricket career

- Why he turned down an offer from another Club

- How he went from playing against the All Blacks one week to playing for them the next

- An insight into the competitive rivalry with Bryn Hall

- His struggles with social media comments

- How he feels about his Dad owning the Highlanders

- And all of your questions!

Drummy also gives some great insights into leadership, what’s made the Crusaders successful, and great advice for young aspiring rugby player.

Mitch Drummond is one special human and this episode is one of the great episodes!

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Rugby fans don't get much bigger than Colin Mansbridge! Who also just happens to be potentially the most successful CEO in all sport, having been the Crusaders CEO for the last 8 years which includes 7 Titles! However, for many it was the way he handled himself and the organisation last season when Crusaders missed the top 8 which was most impressive!

In this episode, Colin brings plenty of honesty, insight, and laughs and we go through some of the challenges and triumphs of being the boss!

Some parts that stood out in this one were...

Why he decided to ban the Cow Bells from the Super Rugby final

His take on Super Rugby and where it’s heading

Why he stood by Rob Penney and didn’t panic after the 2024 season

His love for rugby and in particular scrums

How he landed the CEO gig despite thinking he couldn’t run a rugby club

The decision behind the Crusaders rebrand

His thoughts on the new stadium

How he ended up on TikTok,

Who he reckons is the best player he’s ever CEO’d

And of course… his secret to locking down a good scrum

Colin brings the same level-headedness and wit to this chat that he brings to one of rugby’s most demanding jobs. If you want to understand what really goes on behind the curtain at the Crusaders, this one is for you.

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He’s trained the greatest All Blacks of the modern era, he's survived the pressure cooker of test rugby, and has done so for the past 18 years! Nic Gill, the legendary All Blacks trainer, sits down for one of the great yarns full of honesty, laughs, and elite-level insight.

In this episode we cover:

If you’ve ever wanted a peek behind the curtain of the All Blacks machine — or what it takes to build and sustain excellence — this is it. One of the great men, with a stack of stories and a massive impact on NZ rugby. What a lad!

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For this weeks Fan Favourite episode we throw back to one of the most powerful episodes to date, I’ll always remember this episode for the feeling of goosebumps I got down my spine as Michael Fatialofa shared his incredible journey. Fats was one of the toughest players on the field I ever played with and he proved he was even tougher off it after a life changing tackle.

The former Auckland, Southland and Hurricanes star was over in the UK playing for Worcester, when he was hit awkwardly in a tackle that caused him to be Paralysed from the neck down. He was told he will never walk again! From that moment his life had changed forever and hearing the battle he has gone through the last 3 years left me feeling inspired, sad and proud of what he has been able to achieve.

This episode is an awesome reminder to be truely grateful for everything you have in your life, as like in Michaels case it can literally be taken away from you overnight. I'm so grateful to Fat's for coming on What a Lad and speaking so openly about his journey, it is one of the most powerful and inspiring episodes ever!

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This one has it all — Scott Waldrom, one of the most explosive loose forwards to play the game, jumps on for an absolute ripper of a chat and does not hold back. From growing up as a rugby super fan idolising his hero’s to playing with legends like Jonah Lomu, Jerry Collins, Christian Cullen and Justin Marshall, to getting dropped from Sevens after a scrap in Lower Hutt, Scooters career is full of highs, lows, and unreal yarns.

We talk about:

Honest, hilarious, and full of insight — this one’s got everything. A top man with a stack of stories. Scooter Waldrom is an absolute lad!

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Marty Banks was a cult hero, fans loved him. He looked like your average kiwi bloke, tall, low muscle mass and ran a distinctive curly mop. On the field he was a point scoring machine, he kicked goals from everywhere and made a habit of scoring long range tries which his deceptive pace.

That's the Marty we all knew from the screen. The Marty you'll hear from in this episode is the one who struggled with self confidence, the one who battled through serious injury pain and the one who has had his challenges transitioning into post footy.

Marty played all around the world and experienced so much from the game, having played in Russia, Italy, Japan, Refton, Nelson, Wellington and Dunedin. He's someone who always enjoyed a good time and never took himself to seriously, he even famously chopped a beer a fan threw at him before kicking a conversion to beat Taranaki!

He's definitely a massive lad so it was awesome to get him on What a Lad again.

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We got back to an early fan favourite for this one with the great Mark Stafford!

The beauty of a podcast, you think you know someone well, then you sit with them on the podcast and you are absolutely blown away with their story. That is exactly how this episode with the great man Mark Stafford aka Staffy went. 

Staffy has had an incredible journey to become the face of the TAB and the face of sport here in NZ but he certainly had a few bumps along the way. He shares some mind blowing stories in this episode including one how he died in a car crash but was brought back to life, in an event that ended his rugby career. 

Staffy also gives some unreal insight in to what goes on behind the scenes at the tab and some unbelievable match fixing stories.

I loved this episode as it has a bit of everything in it and you can hear what a genuinely great lad Staffy is!

If you enjoy this episode as always please share it, this is a great one to share with anyone who is having a tough time. 

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"Who's that new hooker at the Crusaders?" That's a question I'm hearing everywhere! Well in fact that man is Ioane Moananu and this is your chance to hear all about this great man in his first ever podcast. Now Ioane is incredibly humble and down to earth with a infectious laugh and cool story. From struggling to start for Counties Manakau to becoming arguably the form hooker of Super Rugby Ioane has had an incredible 12 months and the future is so bright for this great man.

This episode is a good reminder of when you play the game because you love it, the setbacks become easier to handle. Ioane has had plenty of challenging injuries early in his career and his mum recommended he shouldn't play anymore. That was never an option for Ioane who has a passion for the game.

It's also a reminder that as you move into the professional game, all those professional habits like recovery, sleep, nutrition all add up to make a massive difference in performance as we've seen with Ioane. So there is plenty of great advice in this one!

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Scott Fuglistaller was one of those champion team mates who did everything he could to be the best he could be. Unfortunately for the self acclaimed battler it was just never quite enough during his time at the Hurricanes competing with some pretty gifted athletes. He found a way though with moves to the Highlanders and then the Melbourne Rebels for him to become a regular Super Rugby starter and even captain. Sitting at a natural weight of around 80kgs, Scotty had to work so hard in the gym and with his diet to get to a weight that he could survive in the forwards at Super Rugby level. That came at a price, having 11 major surgeries during his career which took it's toll.

Some other parts that stood out for me in this one were..

The freedom Scotty had growing up which meant he grew up quick

How finding rugby was a turning point in his life

How he got from 80kg to 106kgs

His battles with self confidence and why he played his best under pressure

Why he moved to Japan and his time playing there

The struggle of life after rugby

And how he landed in his current role of helping retired players tranisition with the NZRPA.

As you'll hear Scotty has had a journey to get where he is, he's such a top man who will always put others first. Let me know what stood out for you in this one in the comments 👇

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Voted by you guys as the funniest episode ever!

Charlie Gubb is one of my all time favourite Warriors, not just because of the way he played on the field (even though he was an absolute animal) but more importantly because of how big of a lad that he is off it.

Gubby is the kind of team mate everyone loves to have in the team environment, loves a yarn, loves banter and just loves being around the lads. What I didn't realise before going into this podcast was the incredible journey Rugby League took him on!

Some of the interesting points were..

How he made his own highlights package and posted it to all the NRL clubs to get his first opportunity,

How he eventually worked his way into the Warriors and some classic stories from his time with them,

Why he moved to the Raiders (another crazy story that) followed by a move to the UK,

His battles with concussion and mental health,

Why he walked out on his contract in the UK,

and how he ended up starting up Wellingtons favourite porta loo company, Porta Kings.

This is without a doubt one of the funniest episodes so far. I found myself laughing away through this episode at the time and then in the edit. At the end of this episode you'll realise why everyone regards the great Charlie Gubb as one of the all time great team mates.

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Taha Kemara is one of the most talented players in the country, he's fast, he's tough, he has an incredible skillset and more importantly he is a champion lad! For a 21 year old he has certainly experienced plenty of highs and lows from the game already some parts that stood out for me were..

- Growing up as a bigger sized kid which lead him to playing prop until college.

- His time at Hamilton Boys and the influence Nigel Hotham had on him

- Signing with the Crusaders for 3 years straight out of school

- How he's learnt from Richie Mo'unga, Aaron Cruden, Fergus Burke, James O'Connor, Stephen Donald in his first few years.

- He shares his memory from the moment he ruptured his bowel in the NPC

- The challenges involved with moving away from home

- What lies ahead and heaps more.

As you'll hear Taha is such a good human, hard to believe he is only 21! The potential he has is massive and I'm sure you will enjoy following his journey after hearing what a lad he is!

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After 5 years of What a Lad here is one of your selected favourite episodes with the great Robbie Flynn. Robbie is was widely regarded as one of the most talented players in the country but as we all know talent will only get you so far. The beauty of this episode is how honest Robbie is with what held him back from fulfilling his potential.

Robbie Flynn really should be a household name. He should be known as a rugby player who played at the highest level, with the natural talent that he had. Unfortunately, Robbie blew chance, after chance, after chance, as he struggled with self discipline and like many talented kids, he just kind of expected things to happen.

Hearing Robbie talk about his upbringing was incredible and to say he had a tough start to life would be a massive understatement. His love for rugby throughout the episode is clear and self confidence that he has is refreshing to hear.

I hope you all find this episode as inspiring and funny as I did and if you know a young talented athlete please send it on to them

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Andy Ellis is one of the most well connected lads on the planet and after this episode it’s clear to see why. He’s the ultimate ‘yes man’, happy to give anything a crack which is evident by his list of achievements.

Some of his achievements include…

➖ Hosting the no1 TV show in NZ ‘Moving Houses’

➖ Having the no1 song in NZ with C-City Brothers

➖ Hosted the morning radio show

➖ Qualified landscaper

➖ Business owner of Black Origin (Wagu Beef), Gravity (internet company), Hello Kiwi (internet domains)

➖ NPC winner with Canterbury

➖ Super Rugby winner with the Crusaders

➖ RWC winner with the All Blacks

➖ Japan Top League winner with Kobe

➖ MLR winner with New York

So there is obviously plenty to talk about in this one and Andy is a natural story teller and it’s easy to see why he is so well respected, he is just a massive lad! Plenty of gold advice throughout that I’m sure you’ll enjoy and if you do please give it a share to anyone else you think might enjoy it as well.

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Harry Wilson in 2023 missed out on the Wallabies RWC squad and was even struggling to make the Australia A side! Fast forward to 2024 and he is not just in the Wallabies but he's captaining his country to some of the best form they have been in for a long time. For the last 5 years Harry has been one of the best loose forwards in Super Rugby, where his work rate and collisions are up there with the best in the world! At only 25 years old, he's got a massive future still ahead of him!

Some other parts that stood out for me in this one were..

His mindset off a goal line dropout

Hearing his pathway to the Wallabies through Brothers Rugby Club and the Reds

Why he choose rugby over cricket

How he dealt with being in and out of the Wallabies for several years

Where he feels Australia Rugby is at right now

Why he decided to stay in Australia for 4 more years

And all of your questions!

As you'll hear Harry is the ultimate lad, just a good human who loves his footy and a good time. He's the type of guy you'd love to follow into a battle!

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Kyle Preston is someone who deserves every bit of success he gets. His work ethic is unmatched and to hear his journey and how he has stuck to the plan even when he wasn't getting the rewards was truely inspiring. Having had one of the all time great Super Rugby debuts a few weeks ago scoring 3 tries, it was an opportunity for Kyle to show the world he was as ready as he knew he was. Whether it was doing body weight exercises till tears, kicking and passing at the park by himself for 2-3 a day or avoiding all junk food from a young age, Kyle has definitely made plenty of sacrifices to get his opportunity.

Some other parts that stood out for me were..

Where this drive for Kyle to train like he does come from

How he handled non selection for being "too small"

How hard the juggling of roofing and chasing the professional rugby dream is

Why he decided to move to the Crusaders over his hometown Hurricanes

Kyle clears the air on who is dad really is

And heaps more!

As you'll hear Kyle is committed to being the best player he can be and its clear that he has a huge future ahead of him. I hope you enjoy the episode and if you do please give it a share.

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The fact that Christian Lio-Willie is a qualified dentist still blows my mind! Almost every player I have spoken to has said it's too hard to juggle both but this man has done it! How he has got to this point has been some effort, juggling huge days of study while playing professional rugby, he mentions he had to plan every minute of the day.

Having focused on his study straight out of school after a recommendation from his mum, Christian felt like he may have missed the boat on his rugby career as his peers all started making the teams. After an outstanding club season and then a very impressive debut for Otago, he'd done enough to impressed Razor to get him up to the Crusaders. A few years later after a couple of outstanding seasons for the Crusaders he was called up as an injury replacement into the All Blacks.

This episode was inspiring hearing how hard Christian hustled to set himself up to succeed not just on the field but off it. He speaks openly about the struggles and has plenty of good yarns. If you enjoy this episode or there is a young player out there trying to juggle sport and study, please share it on to them.

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Get ready for one of the most inspiring episodes yet with the legendary lad Morgan Mitchell. Born deaf, Morgan’s journey to becoming a professional rugby player was never going to be easy. Although he was an absolute beast on the rugby field from a young age, he was always told that he would never be able to play professional rugby. Thankfully the man who is known for his stubbornness was not having a bar of it and did manage to debut for his beloved Southland stags in 2014. He has since gone on to play over 50 games for the Stags as well as playing overseas with the Toronto Arrows

Kamaishi Seawaves and Houston SaberCats.

This story is a great one about never giving up on your dreams and a great reminder of some of the obstacles you can overcome when you put your mind to it. Morgy is such a champion, a very funny man and like his brother Brayden can tell a hell of a yarn. It was an honour to be the first podcast to share Morgans journey and if you enjoy this episode then I ask if you could please like the video and let me know what you enjoyed about this one in the comments.

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With Super Rugby just around the corner, who better to talk to than the Super Rugby CEO Jack Mesley. The fact that Jack was keen to come on What a Lad and share his very honest thoughts on the game and where it is heading, is proof that this man will do what he can to grow the game.

Transparency was a big part of what Jack wants to see going forward and he certainly leading the way with how open he was around the challenges Super Rugby is facing but also some great ideas he has around the opportunities we have in the game. We speak about the highly anticipated fantasy rugby game that was be live for the 2025 Super Rugby season which will be an absolute game changer.

I left this conversation very exciting about the 2025 Super Rugby season, I do believe it will be one of the best yet and I was also left excited about where the competition and the game is heading. Jack will be an outstanding addition to the competition, he's a passionate rugby man who is a massive lad and I'm sure you'll enjoy this insight.

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Tom Walsh has been one of the best shot-putters in the world for the last decade so it was an honour to get him on What a Lad for this one.

Plenty of people have suggested over the years to get him on and I can see why, he isn’t just good at what he does but he’s a massive lad with an incredible mindset which has seen him win Gold Medals at the World Champs (outdoor and indoor) and the Commonwealth games while twice picking up a Bronze at the Olympics

Some parts that stood out for me were..

How he is sometimes awkwardly mistaken for the great Joe Moody.

Growing up with Dyslexia and the challenges that came with that.

His upbringing in all sports, a rugby no8, cricket wizard and shot put beast.

How he ended up in shot-put and the unique lifestyle of a shot-putter

Why he kept throwing at this years Olympics even with a torn abductor

As well as plenty of great advice for everyone!

As you’ll hear Tom Walsh is a very likeable character, who has had an incredible career to date and the best thing is that it is not over yet. Hearing the mindset that Tom has, I've got no doubt there's more success to come for this great New Zealanders.

If you enjoy this episode please give it a share!

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Everyone who has played with Brayden Mitchell will testify that he is one of the greatest lads to play the game, he was a champion team mate on and off the field, who loved a good time and could always back it up when on the pitch. Some of the stories and reflections that the man they call Scratcher has in this episode were incredible to hear. He was so honest, held back nothing and can tell a seriously good yarn!

Some bits that stood out for me in this one were...

How hard the struggle of retiring from rugby due to a neck injury was for him

His relationship with gambling throughout his career

Getting his first contract straight out of school.

Dealing with a lack of confidence in himself

His relationship with alcohol during his career and during the transition post footy

Dealing with injuries and his regret in how he attacked his rehab

Becoming the Stags captain and the pressure involved with that

And honestly some of the best behind the scene stories of a professional rugby player you will hear.

I've got so much time for Scratcher, just a champion human who played the game for enjoyment and he certainly did that! If you enjoy this episode please give it a share and let me know what stood out for you in the comments.

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Mark Nawaqanitawase has had one of the most eventful 12 months in sport! Firstly heading to the Rugby World Cup with the Wallabies before changing code to the 7’s format of the game for the Paris Olympics, where he narrowly missed out on a medal. He then changed codes again, this time to the 13 man game playing NRL for the Sydney Rooster to cap off what was an incredible 12 months.

What stood out for me in this one was..

How his Fijian heritage plays a significant role in his identity and sports career.

He emphasizes the importance of having fun while playing sports.

How his Waratahs debut in Super Rugby was a dream come true for him.

What it was like debuting for the Wallabies.

How his transition to the Aus 7s team was a rewarding challenge for him.

Why he moved to the Roosters.

Adjusting to NRL required learning new rules and strategies.

All the questions you want to know, fastest player, hardest to tackle etc! 

And heaps more! 

Mark is one of those players who is just a joy to watch whatever game he is playing, the way he can leap in the air, beat defenders and score tries! You’ll also learn in this episode that he is a massive lad, such a likeable character who has a huge future ahead of him.

If you enjoyed this episode let me know what stood out for you in the comments and share the episode if you can. 

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Mark Nawaqanitawase

03:01 Cultural Heritage and Family Background

05:51 Early Sports Journey and Transition to Rugby

08:55 Pathway to Professional Rugby

12:02 Joining the Waratahs and Initial Experiences

14:56 Debut in Super Rugby and Family Support

18:02 Transition to the Wallabies and International Experience

25:06 Mark Nawaqanitawase's Wallabies Debut

28:12 Coaching Changes: From Dave Rennie to Eddie Jones

30:07 Experiencing the Rugby World Cup in France

33:21 Transitioning to Olympic Sevens Rugby

39:26 Signing with the Roosters: A New Chapter

51:04 Adjusting to NRL: The Challenges of Transition

52:59 Transitioning from Union to League

55:55 Mastering Aerial Skills in Rugby

57:54 Debut Excitement and Family Support

59:58 Future Aspirations and Potential Returns

01:00:59 Fan Questions and Personal Anecdotes

01:04:00 Comparing League and Union

01:08:04 Tackling Challenges in Rugby

01:10:07 Speed and Athleticism in Rugby

01:11:49 Advice for Aspiring Players

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The life of a head coach can be as brutal at times and it's fair to say that Rob Penney has been on the receiving end of his fair share of public criticism. However, what I am excited to share with you in this episode is just what a champion man he is. From playing 100 games for Canterbury as a tough loose forward to becoming a Head Coach who has coached all around the world, the Rob Penney journey is a fascinating one!

Some parts that stood out were...

Firstly hearing his thoughts on the Crusaders 2024 season and expectations for 2025

What he remembers about the infamous name calling of the reporter

Growing up in Canterbury dreaming of playing for them and then achieving that dream.

Hearing how hard it was for a young guy coming into those environments back then

How he made his transition into coaching

Hearing all about coaching Canterbury, NZ u20s, Munster, the Waratahs, Shining Arcs.

His recall on the Simon Zebo phone call with the Lions

How his high optimism has got his through the tough times of head coaching

And heaps more.

As you'll hear Rob Penney has so much wisdom, he has had so many highs and lows in the game so was able to share plenty of gold advice from his experiences. If you enjoy this episode please give it a share and I will promise to keep bringing you more great guests like Rob Penney.

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This week on What a Lad we are joined by Hugh Pyle who in my opinion is the greatest Australian rugby player never to be capped by the Wallabies. Standing at over 2 meters tall, Hugh's combination of skillset and workrate has seen him have a remarkable career firstly in Australia with the Rebels before moving to France, where he became a centurion with Stade Français. He finished off in Japan with Toshiba before calling time on his Rugby career.

In his podcast debut, Hugh shares candid insights about his life post-rugby, including his transition to a career as a mortgage broker. He dives into his unique method of reflecting on his career through four key pillars: enjoyment, playing form, salary, and game time, revealing the lessons he learned along the way.

Hugh also talks about plenty of challenges he faced while playing which included battling with dodgy knees, adjusting to life in different parts of the world and even dealing with a serious brain injury.

As you'll hear, Hugh is a massive lad, someone who's reflective personality makes for thought provocative content, he also has a great sense of humor, and can tell a yarn. I'm sure you'll enjoy this one and if you do please give it a share so I can keep bringing you great guest like Hugh.

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Hamish Kerr is officially the greatest High Jumper in the world having recently won Gold at the Paris Olympics. However, what you're about to hear in this episode is an insight into the mind of the Olympic champion and you'll be amazed at how close he came to bowing out in the Qualifiers which in his mind would have meant retirement. The pressure that come on one single jump is insane and when you need to be relaxed and in flow when jumping how you handle that pressure is the difference.

Some other cool parts of this episode that should out for me was..

Growing up playing lot's of sports, playing on the wing in rugby

How at the age of 11 he was arguably faster than Rieko Ioane

His journey into High Jump and why he quit after school

An insight in to the training schedule of an individual athlete

How important your mindset in as a world class athlete

Why he wasn't keen to settle on the split gold medal

What made him take off to the middle of the Javelin field once he had won the gold

And heaps more!

As you'll hear Hamish is a very smart, open and honest man who gives so much gold (excuse the pun) in this episode. What he has done for High Jump and Athletics in this country has been massively and he is such a champion! If you enjoyed this episode please give it share and I will continue to bring you more great guests like Hamish.

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Christian Cullen is a legend. You only have to watch a few minutes of his highlights package to remind yourself how good he really was. The speed and agility, his ability to change direction at full pace, his deceptive strength, add on top his attacking mindset and his braveness in defence! He was a joy to watch. He's also such a champion man who prefers not doing things like this so super grateful to get him on.

In this whopping 2 hour episode some parts that stood out for me

Growing up Christian Cullen was my absolute hero, he inspired me to play the game so to sit down with him and have this conversation was truely incredible. What I'm sure will stand out for you is how humble and down to earth he is, you certainly wouldn't think I'm talking to one of the greatest to ever play the game listening to this. If you enjoy this one, please give it a share and I will continue to bring you the big guest like Christian Cullen.

Special mention to Paraparaumu Rugby Club for allowing me to record this episode in their Clubrooms.

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Casey Laulala is one of the most likeable characters you'll meet with an inspiring story from growing up in Samoa to becoming an All Black. 

Some bits that stood out for me in this one were..

As you'll hear Casey is a very well spoken and honest man who shares some great insights and advice from his journey to the top. If you enjoyed this episode please give it and I will continue to bring you more great guest like this!

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Ross Filipo is one of the greatest lads in our game, whose journey through rugby has been nothing short of fascinating. Starting his rugby journey at 15, Ross shares his evolution from a talented but hesitant first five who could goal kick off both feet, to becoming the skilful and physical lock forward we knew him as.

In this episode we explore key moments throughout his career, including: 

Early Years: Ross always had the talent however he was naturally inclined to just cruise before a change of mindset saw a change in outcomes.

Becoming a Pro: The challenges that came with the transition into professionalism and how a move down to the Crusaders shaped him as a person.

Becoming an All Black: The pressures and challenges of international rugby and what stopped him from having more games

Injuries and Comebacks: Ross opens up about significant injuries, including a neck injury and how he returned from shoulder surgery in record time.

Life Abroad: His overseas adventures, from playing in France to coaching in Japan and the struggles that come with living in a foreign country without your family.

Personal Growth: Ross's candid reflections on mental health, life changing decisions he has made , and how it transformed his life as a father and a coach.

As you'll hear in this one, Ross is a such a genuine human being who has plenty of wisdom and shares plenty of classic stories throughout. If you enjoy this one which I'm sure you will make sure you give it a share and I will continue to bring more great guests like this.

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When we talk about the greatest rugby family in this country ever, it's almost impossible to go past the Barretts. Kevin 'Smylie' Barrett was a Taranaki legend who also played for the Hurricanes, Beauden is a 100 game All Black, RWC winner and 2 x World Player of the year, Scott has captained the Crusaders to 4 Super Rugby titles and is the current Captain of the All Blacks, Jordie at just 27 has racked up over 50 games for the All Blacks and dominated where ever he plays. Kane was tracking the same path before 2 significant head injuries forced him to retire at just 22 years old.

It was awesome to sit down with Kane and talk through where he is at now and how he looks back on his career, some bits that stood out for me were..

This was such an incredible insight from such a champion lad, you can only admire the way Kane has gone about his life post footy and it was so cool to hear about his journey.

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Aaron Mauger loves rugby, he's so passionate about the game and he is so grateful for his involvement in the game and he's certainly been involved!

From playing for Canterbury straight out of school, to becoming a Crusader and All Black not long after. He then moved to Leicester were he won premierships over there, before injuries forced him to retire at just 30. Post playing he was always going to stay in the game and with his incredible rugby knowledge has gone on to become a great coach!

Some bit's that stood out for me were...

I loved hearing about Azza's mindset on how he approaches life, he's very grateful for every thing and he has a real passion for the game of rugby. It made me realise how good this game is, so many great people involved in the game and Aaron Mauger is certianly one of those.

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Everyone loves a battler and when it comes to one of the greatest battlers to ever play the game the great Laurence Corlett has to be up there. The man who debuted for the Hurricanes 10 years after his first class debut for Canterbury, the man known as Frank put in a 7 minute shift that will never be forgotten at the Hurricanes. The story of Laurence Corlett is one that has so many layers, he's a true yes man who put himself out there and he can tell one heck of a story.

Some bits that stood out for me in this one were...

Lads don't get much better than Frank, such a genuine guy, he has great energy and great yarns. I know you'll enjoy this one and when you do please give it a share.

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Colin Cooper is one of the great great human beings, he's one of the wisest souls on the planet – a true legend of rugby in New Zealand with an incredible career spanning over four decades!

Having played over 100 matches for Taranaki and represented the NZ Maori, and Junior All Blacks Colin has left a huge mark on the game as a player. After hanging up his boots, Colin transitioned to coaching, where he made his mark as the coach of the NZ U21s, an assistant at the Crusaders, the head coach of the Hurricanes, and the Chiefs, and of course, led the Taranaki Bulls to an NPC championship.

He has also coached the Junior All Blacks and the NZ Maoris, showcasing a remarkable versatility in the sport. Beyond his impressive accolades, anyone who has worked with Colin will know that he is one kindest and most genuine people you'll ever meet. I've got so much respect for Colin and learnt plenty in this episode so I know you will enjoy this one.

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Carlo Tizzano has burst on to the international rugby scene this season with an incredible work rate and tackle success rate and after this conversation it's easy to understand why.

Growing up as an angry child, with 3 other brother constantly winding him up the aggression in his game was always going to be there. Having started out as a winger, he decided to move in to 7 a move with had plenty of doubters and even cost him a spot in the academy. However, as you'll hear Carlo has an incredible self belief, while also having incredible discipline to achieve goals quickly. 

Carlo has also recently been diagnosed with ADHD which he describes as an absolute game changer and has made sense of a lot of his behaviour growing up especially at school. His ability to focus on tasks especially in games has been a big part of his rapid rise.

The best part about this episode is that Carlo is an absolute lad who doesn't filter anything, he tells it straight and is very true to himself which always makes for the best podcasts. I'm sure by the end of this you'll have a new favourite Wallaby!

Chapters

01:30 Introduction to Carlo Tizzano
03:00 Playing Style and Transition from Winger to Number Seven
08:42 Italian Background and Growing Up in a Household of Boys
11:39 ADHD Diagnosis and Overcoming Burnout
19:00 Meal Planning and Putting on Weight
24:08 Mindset and Success in Club Rugby
28:13 Becoming a Professional Rugby Player
29:29 Confidence and Debut Experiences
36:08 Challenges and Growth in Different Teams
44:05 Moving to Ealing and Embracing a Different Style of Rugby
48:22 The Wild Ride at Ealing and the Importance of Enjoyment
53:19 Opportunity to Return to the Western Force
59:49 Playing for the Force
01:11:52 The future of the Western Force
01:19:06 Toughest players to tackle
01:23:46 Advice for listeners

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Ross Devlin was your classic old school player, he threw his body and head into everything and was too tough to ever want to come off. Now Ross is convinced that he has CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy) from multiple concussions which included a very significant car crash. He now just wants to help others who may have it or even better prevent people from getting it.

The key message in this episode is to try and help players, coaches, parents or whoever, that concussions and multiple concussions need to be taken more seriously at all levels of any sport. It's never an injury to tough it out because the danger and potential long term affects are massive. If you know someone this episode might help, please pass it on.

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