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World Class

Podcast from the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies (FSI) at Stanford University, featuring Director Colin Kahl, former under secretary of defense for policy at the U.S. Department of Defense. Colin and his guests dive into critical international issues, offering insights into the history and context of the biggest stories in the news.
- 175 - A Technological Pearl Harbor? Amy Zegart on AI, National Security, and Who Holds Power
Great powers were once built on tangible assets: territory, armies, oil, ships and steel. While those still matter, power in today's world also comes from data, knowledge, and algorithms. And, unlike in previous eras, much of that power now sits with private companies, a domain U.S. intelligence agencies weren’t designed to track. FSI Senior Fellow Amy Zegart warns this leaves America open to a technological Pearl Harbor, where a competitor like China leapfrogs the U.S. in the technology race with devastating results for national security. She joins Colin Kahl on World Class to discuss how intelligence agencies can keep up, why frontier AI models need independent testing, and what this summer’s OpenAI–Hugging Face hack says about concentrated corporate power. They also explore how drones are changing the rules of coercion. As Russian drones probe NATO’s skies and U.S. interceptor stockpiles run low, Zegart makes the case for why the spear factory, rather than the tip of the spear, may become a nation's most credible signal of resolve and deterrence.
Fri, 16 Oct 2026 - 33min - 174 - Why Do Nations Go to War? Jim Fearon on Ukraine, Iran, and His Pentagon Years
James Fearon, one of the preeminent thinkers in international relations, joins Colin Kahl to talk about why conflicts around the world are roaring back, and how more might be prevented. Fearon shares his perspectives from academia and government on why and how the conflicts in Ukraine and Iran are unfolding, and how an active conflict could be avoided with China in the Indo-Pacific.
Tue, 8 Sep 2026 - 33min - 173 - Policy Leaders at OpenAI and Anthropic on AI in National Security
The heads of national security policy at OpenAI and Anthropic join World Class to discuss how artificial intelligence is intersecting with national security, the U.S.-China AI race, and how the risks and advantages of AI are resonating in the national security space. Together with host Colin Kahl, Sasha Baker (OpenAI) and Tarun Chabra (Anthropic) dive into the Hugging Face server breach, AI safety proposals on Capitol Hill, and new models like Kimi K3 coming online.
Tue, 4 Aug 2026 - 42min - 172 - The Technology Reshaping Our World
Artificial intelligence, social media, biotechnology, energy systems, propaganda, and geopolitics — each is transformative on its own, but together they're converging in unprecedented ways that are rapidly reshaping our world. On this episode of World Class, Colin Kahl shares expertise and insights from a panel of scholars on how emerging technologies are impacting society, politics, and global security.
Thu, 21 May 2026 - 43min - 171 - How to Prevent a War with China Over Taiwan
Even though China is the main global competitor to the United States, has there been sufficient planning in Washington on how the U.S. might respond to aggression against the island of Taiwan by Beijing? Eyck Freymann wants to make sure there is. He joins Colin Kahl on World Class to discuss his new book, "Defending Taiwan: A Strategy to Prevent War with China," which outlines how the U.S. can integrate its military strength, economic leverage, technological leadership, and diplomatic influence into a single, coherent plan to prevent war.
Tue, 28 Apr 2026 - 44min - 170 - An Iranian, Israeli, and American Perspective on the War in Iran
On February 28, 2026, the United States and Israel launched wide-spread, coordinated attacks against Iran which struck military, naval, and nuclear infrastructure and killed many of the country’s senior leaders. On a special episode of World Class, Colin Kahl discusses the war, its immediate impacts, and its possible trajectory with Israeli security expert Ori Rabinowitz and Iranian studies professor Dr. Abbas Milani. The audio of this episode was originally recorded during a panel discussion held at the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University on March 4, 2026.
Fri, 6 Mar 2026 - 54min - 169 - Two National Security Advisors on Two Breakneck Months of U.S. Foreign Policy
H.R. McMaster and Jake Sullivan, the respective national security advisors of the first Trump administration and the Biden administration, join Colin Kahl to sort through everything that has happened in U.S foreign policy since the start of the year, from Venezuela and Iran to Greenland and strain on U.S.-European alliances, and the ever-present competition with China and Russia, and how all of these issues may affect the rest of 2026.
Wed, 18 Feb 2026 - 37min - 168 - A New Global Order and a New Host of World Class
There are a lot of changes happening in the world, from the "rupture" in the global order to a new host of World Class! Colin Kahl, the new director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University, joins Michael McFaul to take on the role of podcast host and discuss how institutions like FSI can better study and contribute understanding about the rapidly changing world.
Mon, 26 Jan 2026 - 25min - 167 - Hope and Despair: The Emotional Response to the War in Ukraine
Gabrielius Landsbergis, former minister of foreign affairs of the Republic of Lithuania, and host Michael McFaul discuss the roller coaster of emotion that has surrounded developments in the war of Ukraine, how to understand the real picture of what's happening, and what actions must be taken to ensure there are concrete strategies in place to support Ukraine for the long-term.
Mon, 15 Dec 2025 - 24min - 166 - How to Tackle Global Challenges
Scholars from the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies share insights into climate change, the AI race between the U.S. and China, security in the Middle East, global tensions between autocracies and democracies, and Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine.
Mon, 24 Nov 2025 - 27min - 165 - The Global Showdown Between Autocrats vs. Democrats
Michael McFaul moves out of the host seat to let Professor Jim Goldgeier interview him about his new book, Autocrats vs. Democrats, which traces the evolution of great power competition between China, Russia, and the United States, and offers strategies for how America can remain competitive in a new era of geopolitics.
Tue, 28 Oct 2025 - 22min - 164 - How Democracy Is Doing Around the World
Larry Diamond joins host Michael McFaul to discuss how civic discourse and political institutions are holding up in the United States, South Korea, Taiwan, and other democracies after the "Year of Elections."
Tue, 15 Jul 2025 - 19min - 163 - Sanctions and Security in a Changing Global Order
Sanctions are the go-to tool for imposing costs on bad actors on the global stage. But what happens when the sanctions cause humanitarian crises? Ruth Gibson joins World Class to discuss the latest research into how sanctions impact child and maternal mortality, and the stability of the global order as a whole.
Mon, 7 Jul 2025 - 15min - 162 - Lessons from the Latest India-Pakistan Clash
The escalation between India and Pakistan over the terrorist attack in Pahalgam, Kashmir is revealing important insights into India's evolving defense posture and military capabilities. Arzan Tarapore joins Michael McFaul to discuss what happened, what the clash says about the security landscape of the Indo-Pacific region, and why it matters in global politics.
Mon, 16 Jun 2025 - 23min - 161 - Is There a Future for U.S.-Europe Security Partnerships?
Unclear negotiations over the war in Ukraine; uncertainty about the unity of NATO; increased transatlantic mistrust. Jim Goldgeier joins Michael McFaul to discuss the growing divide in U.S.-European relations, what's causing it, and what it means for the future of security on both sides of the Atlantic.
Mon, 28 Apr 2025 - 22min - 160 - The Great Retreat of Political Parties
People are fed up with political parties, and that's a big problem for democracy, says Didi Kuo. She joins Michael McFaul to discuss why we need well-functioning parties, how we got the party system we have today, and what can be done to course correct.
Fri, 14 Mar 2025 - 22min - 159 - Three Years of War in Ukraine
Three years into Russia's full-scale invasion, Ukraine remains a sovereign democracy. But changes in the U.S. and shifts in the international security landscape could drastically impact the trajectory of the war and Ukraine's future. Former ambassador Steven Pifer joins Michael McFaul to discuss what's been happening and how it may affect Kyiv, Europe, and the world order more broadly.
Mon, 24 Feb 2025 - 26min - 158 - Understanding China's 'Upstart' Strategy
China is rapidly gaining influence and power on the global stage, and if the United States wants to stay ahead, Oriana Skylar Mastro says we need to fundamentally rethink our understanding of how Beijing is competing and the strategies America can use to counter an "upstart" great power.
Wed, 19 Feb 2025 - 24min - 157 - Vladimir Kara-Murza on the Future of Russian Democracy
Former political prisoner Vladimir Kara-Murza joins Michael McFaul to discuss why he believes the long-term stability of Europe depends on the existence of a free, fair, and democratic Russia, and what can be done now to start preparing for that future.
Fri, 13 Dec 2024 - 26min - 156 - Whatever Victory Takes: Ambassador Audra Plepytė on Support for Ukraine
Audra Plepytė, Lithuania's Ambassador to the United States, shares her views on Ukraine's struggle against Russia from the perspective of Lithuania, another former Soviet state, and explains why preserving Ukraine's sovereignty is crucial for maintaining stability and security in the international order.
Fri, 8 Nov 2024 - 27min - 155 - Global Threats Today: The 2024 Edition
Climate change, Russia and Ukraine, China, the Middle East, global democracy: how are we doing on some of the biggest challenges facing the world today? Michael McFaul talks to a panel of experts to assess what progress has been made and what more can be done to tackle these issues.
Thu, 31 Oct 2024 - 35min - 154 - An Inside Look at Policymaking with Susan E. Rice
Ambassador Susan Rice shares some of the lessons she's learned about perseverance and humility during her long career in government and policy making.
Wed, 17 Jul 2024 - 34min - 153 - The View on Russia from Estonia
Estonia's Ambassador to the U.S. Kistjan Prikk joins Michael McFaul to discuss his country's view on Russia's military, Putin's nuclear threats, and the long-term impact the war in Ukraine will have on European security.
Mon, 17 Jun 2024 - 17min - 152 - Strategic Responsibility in the EU, United States, and Beyond
Josep Borrell, the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, joins Michael McFaul to discuss how the European Union, United States, and their allies can better cooperate on pressing global issues like the war in Ukraine, the conflict in Gaza, competition with China, and rapidly evolving cybersecurity threats.
Thu, 6 Jun 2024 - 29min - 151 - Global Security Lies in Human Security, Says Oleksandra Matviichuk
A world that is not safe for some is a world not safe for anyone. On this episode, Michael McFaul brings you remarks from Oleksandra Matviichuk, an accomplished human rights lawyer, who explains what's at stake if democracies fail to stand by their values and win wars against autocracies.
Tue, 30 Apr 2024 - 28min - 150 - The Widening Cracks in Iran's Regime
The historically low voter turnout at Iran's recent parliamentary elections is a warning to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei that the public is not content with the regime's oppressive status quo, says Dr. Abbas Milani. He joins Michael McFaul on World Class to discuss the implications of the growing dissent and how it might shape Iran's domestic and international politics.
Thu, 21 Mar 2024 - 20min - 149 - The War in Ukraine at Two Years
Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine began on February 24, 2022. Two years later, Ukrainians are still valiantly fighting to preserve their rights to freedom, democracy, and self-determination. To commemorate this tragic milestone, World Class host Michael McFaul is joined by four Ukrainian civic and governmental leaders from Kyiv to share their experiences of how the war continues to impact daily life in Ukraine, and to give their perspectives on what Russia’s aggression means both for Ukraine's future and the vitality of the global democratic order. This audio is adapted from an event originally hosted on February 23, 2024 by the Center on Democracy, Development and the Rule of Law.
Sat, 24 Feb 2024 - 1h 10min - 148 - Sean Penn on Ukraine's "Superpower"
When Academy Award-winning actor Sean Penn set off to make a documentary about Ukraine, he thought he would be telling the story of a comedic showman-turned president named Volodymyr Zelenskyy and the young democracy that had elected him. Instead, Penn found himself witnessing the start of a horrific war of aggression. Sean Penn joined Michael McFaul at Stanford University for a special screening of "Superpower," a film co-directed by Penn and Aaron Kaufman about the days leading up to and immediately following Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. During their discussion, Penn shares what it was like to be an accidental witness to history, and the inspiration he continues to take from President Zelenskyy, Ukrainians, and their fight for freedom. Natalia Antelava, editor-in-chief of Coda Story and a John S. Knight Journalism fellow at Stanford, moderates the conversation.
Thu, 1 Feb 2024 - 45min - 147 - How Did We Get Here? A Conversation on the Crisis in the Middle East
To understand why the conflict in Gaza is so complex, you have to understand the history of Israel's relationship with Palestine and Hamas well before October 7, 2023. In this episode of World Class, we bring you a conversation with Ambassador Dennis Ross and Ghaith al-Omari, two experts on the Middle East, who help contextualize the current situation in Gaza, offer a framework for how to understand the conflict between Israel and Hamas, and share their thoughts on what it will take to bring stability to the region. Their discussion is moderated by Janine Zacharia, a lecturer in the Department of Communication at Stanford University. Ambassador Dennis Ross is the counselor and William Davidson Distinguished Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and teaches at Georgetown University’s Center for Jewish Civilization. For more than twelve years, Ambassador Ross played a leading role in shaping U.S. involvement in the Middle East peace process, dealing directly with the parties as the U.S. point man on the peace process in both the George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton administrations. Ghaith al-Omari, the Rosalinde and Arthur Gilbert Foundation Senior Fellow in The Washington Institute's Irwin Levy Family Program on the U.S.-Israel Strategic Relationship, is the former executive director of the American Task Force on Palestine. He served as advisor to the negotiating team during the 1999–2001 permanent-status talks in addition to holding various other positions within the Palestinian Authority.
Mon, 18 Dec 2023 - 1h 20min - 146 - Global Threats: What's at Stake and What We Can Do About It
Conflict between Hamas and Israel; the ongoing war in Ukraine; rising tensions between China and Taiwan; climate change; dissatisfaction with national politics. These are some of the most pressing challenges facing the world today. What do we need to understand better about these issues, and what can be done to address them? On this episode of World Class, host Michael McFaul brings you a conversation with four scholars from the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies held during Stanford University's 2023 Reunion and Homecoming. Together they unpack what's at stake, how these challenges are related, and offer policy recommendations for how to solve them. Featuring: Michael McFaul, Director and Senior Fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies; the Ken Olivier and Angela Nomellini Professor of International Studies in the Department of Political Science; the Peter and Helen Bing Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution; and former U.S. Ambassador to Russia. Marshall Burke, Deputy Director at the Center on Food Security and the Environment; an associate professor in the Doerr School of Sustainability, and a Senior Fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment, and the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. Larry Diamond, the Mosbacher Senior Fellow of Global Democracy at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies; the William L. Clayton Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution; and a professor, by courtesy, of sociology and of political science. Didi Kuo, Center Fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies and associate director for research at its Center on Democracy, Development, and the Rule of Law. Amichai Magen, the inaugural Visiting Fellow in Israel Studies at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies; In Israel, a senior lecturer (U.S. associate professor), head of the MA Program in Diplomacy & Conflict Studies, and director of the Program on Democratic Resilience and Development (PDRD) at the Lauder School of Government, Diplomacy and Strategy, Reichman University.
Wed, 15 Nov 2023 - 30min - 145 - On the Ground in Ukraine
In September 2023, Michael McFaul and political philosopher Francis Fukuyama traveled to Kyiv to participate in the Yalta European Strategy conference. They met with policymakers from Ukraine, Europe, and beyond; military experts; Ukrainian alumni of fellowship and development programs from the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies; and even President Zelenskyy himself. On World Class, they recap what stood out to them from their trip, what they learned, and the stories from everyday Ukrainians that have stuck with them.
Wed, 18 Oct 2023 - 21min - 144 - Understanding Israel's Democracy
Changes to the legal code. Massive protests from the public. Walk-outs by members of the legislature. What exactly is going on in Israel? Law and governance expert Amichai Magen joins World Class host Michael McFaul to discuss the growing crisis Israeli democracy faces. Magen gives context on the crisis, explains some of the cultural and institutional reasons that led Israel to this point, and offers his thoughts as to how Israel might move forward from here.
Wed, 2 Aug 2023 - 29min - 143 - Finland's Role in Global Security and Defense
Finland is no stranger to the ambitions of Russia. Sharing a nearly 900 mile border with their neighbor, the Finns lived through their own invasion by Soviet troops during the winter of 1939. Almost 85 years later, Finland and its leaders have been some of the most vocal supporters of Ukraine since the full-scale invasion by Russia began in February 2022. At a special event hosted by the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, President Sauli Niinistö and his visiting delegation joined a panel of Stanford scholars to discuss the unique leadership role Finland can play in furthering global security, defense, and cybersecurity alliances. On this episode of World Class, we're bringing you the highlights from that discussion.
Mon, 20 Mar 2023 - 1h 01min - 142 - What a Year of Putin's War Looks Like in Kyiv
It's been a year since Putin launched his full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Few people have had a closer view of the realities of that war than Sergiy Leshchenko, an advisor to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s chief-of-staff and an alumnus of the Draper Hills Summer Fellows program at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies. He joins Michael McFaul on World Class to report on what a year of brutal fighting looks like from inside Ukraine, and shares what progress he hopes to see in the coming months as Ukraine continues it's fight to remain a sovereign, democratic state.
Fri, 24 Feb 2023 - 22min - 141 - Women, Life, and Freedom in Iran
"Women, Life, and Freedom:" this phrase has become the rallying cry of tens of thousands of Iranians around the world. What began as protests over the death of Mahsa Amini, a young Kurdish woman detained by Iran's strict morality police, has become a groundswell in Iran's society unlike anything since the Iranian Revolution in 1979. "Those three words [are] even more progressive than 'Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness,' because women are central to it. It has life. It has joy," says Dr. Abbas Milani, the director of Iranian Studies at Stanford University. He joins Michael McFaul on World Class to discuss what Dr. Milani calls the "seething volcano" of anger, disappointment, and frustration many in Iran feel towards the corruption, cronyism, and economic mismanagement the regime of Iran has perpetrated against its citizens. Could Mahsa Amini be the spark that sets off a democratic explosion? Milani and McFaul discuss what the latest calls for change might mean for the country, and how a democratic Iran could rewrite the calculus of the global geopolitical stage.
Tue, 31 Jan 2023 - 19min - 140 - Addressing Policy Challenges: The 2022 Report Card
In this episode of World Class, we're bringing you a conversation from the 2022 Stanford Reunion. In this recording, you'll hear Michael McFaul and a panel of experts from the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies discuss some of the biggest policy challenges of the moment — climate change, Russia and the war in Ukraine, China and Taiwan, and maintaining democracy at home and abroad. Each panelist will give their assessment of a challenge, then provide feedback on how policymakers are addressing it and what more can be done. Michael McFaul is the director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University and former U.S. Ambassador to Russia. Marshall Burke is the deputy director of the Center on Food Security and the Environment and a senior fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute, Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment, and Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. Didi Kuo is a senior research scholar at the Center on Democracy, Development, and the Rule Law. Oriana Skylar Mastro is a center fellow at FSI, working primarily with the Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center and the Center for International Security and Cooperation. Steven Pifer is a former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine and an affiliate at the Center for International Security and Cooperation.
Fri, 23 Dec 2022 - 32min - 139 - The War in Ukraine: What's Next?
As winter in Eastern Europe settles in, the Russian military continues to cede ground to advancing Ukrainian forces. The question many people are asking now is: “What happens next?” Steven Pifer, a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, and political scientist Francis Fukuyama join Michael McFaul on World Class podcast to discuss Ukraine’s progress in the war so far and offer possible prognoses for the future.
Mon, 21 Nov 2022 - 20min - 138 - What We Need Talk About When We Talk About Taiwan
While the world still watches the conflict in Ukraine, on the opposite side of the globe, the potential for conflict between Taiwan, China, and the United States is increasing. Will China forcibly try to reunify Taiwan with the mainland? And if they do, how will the United States respond? Larry Diamond, an scholar of Taiwan and Chinese sharp power, and Oriana Skylar Mastro, an expert on the Chinese military and security, join Michael McFaul on the World Class to discuss possible timelines for China’s ambitions against Taiwan, and how the U.S. and its allies can deter Beijing.
Thu, 3 Nov 2022 - 24min - 137 - Putin's Failed War
To launch our new season of World Class, we're bringing you a special extended interview with Michael McFaul and Ray Suarez of the World Affairs podcast about the changing conditions on the Ukrainian battlefield and the political situation inside Russia. Their conversation originally aired on World Affairs on September 23, 2022. Just before Putin's military order on September 21, 2022 mobilizing up to 300,000 additional troops from Russia to fight in Ukraine, former US Ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, spoke with Ray Suarez to give a sense of what we can expect from the war in Ukraine in the coming weeks and – perhaps – months, and how it's impacting Russia's international standing. For more from World Affairs, visit their website at — https://www.worldaffairs.org/index.php.
Thu, 29 Sep 2022 - 59min - 136 - Putin's Fear of a Democratic Ukraine
This is a special crossover episode of World Class and the World Affairs podcast, hosted by Ray Suarez. Michael McFaul, the director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, joins Ray as a guest to discuss what motivated Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine and how is his war changing the balance of power between Russia, the US, Europe and China. This episode was first published on March 7, 2022 by World Affairs. To learn more, please visit: https://www.worldaffairs.org/media/blog/951
Mon, 14 Mar 2022 - 38min - 135 - Taking the Temperature on the Climate Crisis with Marshall Burke
Data clearly shows that extreme weather patterns like those seen across the globe in 2021 are driven by climate change. But is that fact driving policymakers to make meaningful inroads to address the climate crisis? Marshall Burke, the deputy director of the Center on Food Security and the Environment, joins Michael McFaul on World Class podcast to review the latest data on what’s happening with climate change in the field and in Congress.
Thu, 17 Feb 2022 - 22min - 134 - Spies, Lies and Algorithms with Amy Zegart
There are plenty of glamorous Hollywood spies, but how does the world of real espionage and intelligence work? In her book Spies, Lies and Algorithms, national security and intelligence expert Amy Zegart separates facts from fictions about the U.S. intelligence community. She joins FSI Director Michael McFaul on World Class to trace the history of intelligence in America and unpacks the challenges intelligence organizations need to address in an increasingly digital world.
Tue, 1 Feb 2022 - 24min - 133 - Ukraine, Russia and the Fight for Democracy
The situation on the Ukraine-Russia border continues to change, but the ideological fight between democracy and autocracy is as hot as ever. Former prime minister of Ukraine Oleksiy Honcharuk joins Michael McFaul to give an inside view on the Ukraine-Russia conflict and discuss the bigger strategy Putin is using to undermine democracy in Eastern Europe and beyond.
Wed, 29 Dec 2021 - 26min - 132 - Alexander Vindman on Why Right Matters to Democracy Here and Abroad
Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman joins Michael McFaul on World Class to discuss why values and integrity are crucial to upholding democratic norms here in the United States, and why democracies everywhere should support and encourage those norms in places like Ukraine. His testimony before Congress was key part of President Trump's first impeachment trial in 2019 over his phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. He shares his story of becoming an unexpected public figure, and the life experiences that guided his decisions in his book, Here, Right Matters.
Mon, 13 Dec 2021 - 22min - 131 - We Need To Rethink Our Assumptions about China’s Strategic Goals
Taiwan. Hypersonic missiles. The South China Sea. In the last few months, China’s activities have grabbed headlines and imaginations. But how much of this action is posturing, and how much should U.S. policymakers and strategists take seriously? Oriana Skylar Mastro, an expert on China's military and strategic planning and active member of the United States Air Force Reserve, rejoins Michael McFaul on World Class to debunk some of the myths that persist about China’s capabilities and reframe how the U.S. needs to think about strategic competition with Beijing.
Mon, 29 Nov 2021 - 25min - 130 - Understanding the Global Rise of Authoritarianism
In the last 30 years, authoritarian regimes have gained significant ground in countries around the world, and democracy norms are in decline. Why? Former Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications and Speech Writing and veteran podcaster Ben Rhodes joins Michael McFaul to discuss his new book, "After the Fall: Being American in the World We've Made," which tries to understand why democracy is faltering through the stories of individuals on the front lines trying to defend it.
Mon, 8 Nov 2021 - 29min - 129 - Democracy in Peril
In his inaugural address, President Biden declared, “Today we celebrate the triumph not of a candidate but of a cause — the cause of democracy.” But is the United States still a beacon for aspiring democratic societies around the globe? In a crossover episode with the World Affairs Podcast, World Class host Michael McFaul and Dr. Francis Fukuyama — Senior Fellow and Director of the Center on Democracy, Development and the Rule of Law — look at the current state of democracy.
Thu, 18 Mar 2021 - 33min - 128 - Russia Resurrected
In a special crossover episode with the World Affairs Podcast, Mike and FSI Senior Fellow Dr. Kathryn Stoner take a closer look at Russia — a country whose economy has continued to grow despite international sanctions — as Vladimir Putin cracks down on protestors. They also discuss her new book, "Russia Resurrected: Its Power and Purpose in a New Global Order."
Thu, 11 Mar 2021 - 28min - 127 - What’s Going on in Georgia? A Democracy Activist Explains the Nation’s Current Political Crisis and Turbulent History
Last week, riot police used force to remove Nika Melia, the leader of Georgia’s main opposition party, from his political headquarters. Meila’s arrest has deepened political rifts within Georgia and is plunging the nation into crisis, with opposition parties vowing to boycott Parliament until Melia is released by the government. Nino Evgenidze, a Georgian activist and executive director of the Economic Policy Research Center in Tbilisi, tells Mike what Melia’s arrest means for Georgia, the region and the rest of the world.
Thu, 4 Mar 2021 - 28min - 126 - President Biden on the World Stage
In a special crossover episode, World Class host Michael McFaul discusses how the U.S. can mend relationships with the rest of the world after four years of unpredictability on the World Affairs Podcast. Mike and Jorge Castañeda, former Foreign Minister of Mexico, join World Affairs co-host Ray Suarez to talk about how to best address foreign policy moving forward.
Thu, 25 Feb 2021 - 59min - 125 - Biden Administration Should Strike a Deal with Iran
Iran’s economy is at its worst point in decades, its Supreme Leader is ill, and the country is “desperate” for a nuclear deal with the United States, says Abbas Milani, an expert on U.S.-Iran relations. On this episode, he and Mike discuss the Iranian economy, the future of Iran’s leadership, and what a potential new nuclear deal might look like.
Thu, 18 Feb 2021 - 20min - 124 - Biden Administration Should Aim to Bring Positive Change to a Tense U.S.-Russia Relationship
While we should expect some big changes over the next four years when it comes to U.S. foreign policy toward Russia, President Joe Biden should be willing to cooperate with Russia on select issues, says Steven Pifer, former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine. In this episode, Pifer discusses the Biden administration’s approach to Russia and its priorities in working with the Kremlin.
Wed, 27 Jan 2021 - 21min - 123 - What a Biden Presidency Means for U.S.-China Relations, with Oriana Skylar Mastro
Relations between the U.S. and China are more tense than ever over issues such as trade, a new national security law in Hong Kong, U.S. attempts to restrict Chinese apps TikTok and WeChat, and the COVID-19 pandemic. International security expert Oriana Skylar Mastro joins the podcast to discuss the tension between China and Taiwan and why it matters for the U.S. and the world, as well as her predictions for how relations between Washington and Beijing will play out during the Biden administration.
Tue, 8 Dec 2020 - 21min - 122 - World Class Trailer
We bring expertise on international affairs from Stanford's campus, straight to you. Hosted by former U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, experts from the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies offer insights into the history and context of the biggest stories in the news.
Thu, 3 Dec 2020 - 00min - 121 - How China’s Rural Population Will Influence its Economic Future, with Scott Rozelle
840 million people — or about one-ninth of the world’s population — live in China’s rural areas. They tend to settle in the regions in which they are born, and they’re generally not depicted in mainstream media outlets, but they are going to play an instrumental role in the country’s economic future. In this episode, Scott Rozelle discusses how the wealth gap between the richer urban parts of China and the poorer rural areas could contribute to a slowdown in China’s economic growth, which he calls “the biggest problem China faces that no one knows about.”
Tue, 17 Nov 2020 - 20min - 120 - Inside the Fight Against Election Disinformation, with Renée DiResta
During the 2016 presidential election cycle, Russian operatives used Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and other social media platforms to spread disinformation in order to divide the American public. Four years later, misleading and false information about the 2020 presidential election is still rampant online. And this time around, more of that misleading information is coming from domestic actors within the U.S. As research manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, Renée DiResta investigates the spread of malign narratives across social networks, and assists policymakers in devising responses to the problems that those narratives create. On today’s episode, she discusses what it’s like to navigate this online world of propaganda and conspiracy theories.
Wed, 28 Oct 2020 - 24min - 119 - How to Ensure a Free and Fair Election During a Pandemic, with Nathaniel Persily
We are nearing the end of the election season in the U.S. that has been anything but ordinary — the country is in the midst of a global pandemic, which has caused a seismic shift in how Americans will vote. Nearly three-quarters of American voters are eligible to receive a mail-in ballot for the 2020 election. Nathaniel Persily is one of the leaders of the Stanford-MIT Healthy Elections Project, and he has been working very hard over the past several months to ensure that we have a free and fair election in November. In this episode, Persily weighs in on the risk of voter fraud, questions about mail-in ballots, and his work with the Stanford-MIT Healthy Elections Project.
Wed, 14 Oct 2020 - 20min - 118 - The Importance of the New START Treaty, with Rose Gottemoeller
Signed by President Barack Obama and former Russian President Dmitri Medvedev in 2010, the New START Treaty caps the number of strategic missiles and heavy bombers that the U.S. and Russia can possess. The nuclear arms control treaty is set to expire in February 2021 unless an agreement is signed in the coming months. Rose Gottemoeller, the chief negotiator of New START, joins World Class to discuss what it’s like to negotiate with the Russians and the path ahead for extending the New START Treaty.
Fri, 11 Sep 2020 - 23min - 117 - Belarusians Demand New Leadership and Free and Fair Elections, with Aleś Łahviniec
Described by some as “Europe’s last dictator,” Alexander Lukashenko has headed an authoritarian regime in Belarus for the last 26 years. Following his recent victory in Belarus’ presidential election, which is widely considered to have been rigged, citizens have taken to the streets to protest. Belarusian scholar and activist Aleś Łahviniec breaks down what happened during Belarus’ election in early August, why people are protesting, and what it feels like to be out on the streets in Minsk.
Fri, 28 Aug 2020 - 30min - 116 - Decisions That Will Shape China’s Future, with Jean Oi and Thomas Fingar
Many see China as having a desire to displace the United States as the preeminent power in the world. In this episode, Jean Oi and Thomas Fingar (co-editors of "Fateful Decisions: Choices That Will Shape China’s Future") explain why they disagree with this belief. They also discuss China’s growth and achievements over the past 40 years, the choices that will shape China’s future, and the role of political parties and leaders in China.
Tue, 14 Jul 2020 - 27min - 115 - Cracking Down on Police Violence, with Beatriz Magaloni
With protests continuing after the tragic killing of George Floyd by Minneapolis police, people around the world are demanding more transparency and accountability from police officers. What steps can be taken to curb police violence and abuses of power? Dr. Beatriz Magaloni is a senior fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies and the founder and director of the Poverty, Violence and Governance Lab. She has been conducting research on institutionalized police brutality in Mexico and police violence in Brazil for many years. In this episode, Magaloni discusses what she’s learned about police brutality and the abuse of power in those countries, as well as how community-oriented policing and constitutional reform can impact violence committed by police.
Tue, 30 Jun 2020 - 21min - 114 - Systemic Racism and the Future of American Democracy, with Larry Diamond
Following the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer, widespread protests have erupted in cities around the United States and around the world. What can we learn from these protests, and what implications might they have for democracy in the United States? Larry Diamond is a senior fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies. In this episode, Diamond discusses institutional racism and police brutality in the U.S., how recent protests for racial justice compare to the civil rights movement, and why he’s worried about the upcoming United States presidential election.
Tue, 16 Jun 2020 - 21min - 113 - COVID-19 and its Impact on Democracy, with Nate Persily and Larry Diamond
As the coronavirus pandemic continues, its effects could be potentially devastating to global democracy and the upcoming U.S. presidential election. Nate Persily, a senior fellow at FSI and co-director of the Stanford-MIT Project on a Healthy Election, and Larry Diamond, also a senior fellow at FSI, discuss how democracies and autocracies are doing in response to the global crisis, why some democracies are doing better than others, and the potential effects of the pandemic on the U.S. election in November.
Tue, 26 May 2020 - 23min - 112 - COVID-19 and the Importance of Immunity, with Michelle Mello and David Relman
COVID-19 has established itself around the globe and will be with us for the foreseeable future. What do we know about the virus so far, and what makes it unique? Michelle Mello is a professor of law and medicine at Stanford whose research focuses on law, ethics, and health policy. David Relman is a professor in the departments of Medicine and Microbiology & Immunology at Stanford, and a Senior Fellow at the Center for International Security and Cooperation at FSI. In this episode, Mello and Relman discuss what scientists have learned about the virus, the U.S. response to the pandemic on both a state and national level, and lessons that can be learned from the global response.
Mon, 11 May 2020 - 20min - 111 - Global Populisms and Their Threats to Democracy, with Anna Grzymala-Busse, Didi Kuo, and Frank Fukuyama
Global populism is on the rise. Once associated with Latin American and post-communist democracies, populist parties and politicians have now gained support and power in established democracies. In a new white paper, “Global Populisms and Their Challenges,” co-authors Anna Grzymala-Busse, Didi Kuo, Frank Fukuyama, and World Class host Michael McFaul explore the threats that populism poses to democracy and what can be done to alleviate those problems. In this episode the trio define populism, and discuss how to spot a populist and whether the movement can be stopped.
Mon, 9 Mar 2020 - 21min - 110 - What You Need To Know About the Coronavirus, with Karen Eggleston and David Relman
The coronavirus has infected more than 75,000 people and killed more than 2,000 since it was first identified in Wuhan, China, in late December. Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies experts Karen Eggleston and David Relman join host Michael McFaul to discuss what you should know about the virus, its impact on China and the world, and whether there is any truth to the rumors about its origins.
Mon, 24 Feb 2020 - 21min - 109 - Post-Soleimani Life in Iran, with Abbas Milani
In the wake of the assassination of Qassem Soleimani by the United States, Abbas Milani — an expert on U.S.-Iran relations — discusses Iran’s economic and political troubles, Soleimani’s role in Iranian politics, and what the country’s decision to fire missiles at two Iraqi bases housing U.S. troops means for relations between Iran and the U.S. going forward. Abbas Milani is the Hamid and Christina Moghadam Director of Iranian Studies at Stanford, Adjunct Professor at the Center on Democracy, Development and the Rule of Law at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, and a Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution.
Wed, 15 Jan 2020 - 21min - 108 - Ukraine’s Fight for Democracy, with Francis Fukuyama
With an average age of 41, Ukraine’s new parliament — elected in July 2019 — is its least experienced one yet. 80 percent of the legislature had no political experience before the election last summer, and the nation is at a crossroads of sorts: will it transition into a successful reformist government, or will its efforts fail? Francis Fukuyama — the Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at FSI, and the director of both the Center on Democracy, Development and the Rule of Law and the Ford Dorsey Master’s in International Policy program — is optimistic. In this episode, Fukuyama discusses the struggle for democracy in Ukraine, and why we all should be paying attention.
Thu, 12 Dec 2019 - 18min - 107 - The Fight Against ISIS, with Brett McGurk
President Donald Trump recently made the decision to pull U.S. troops out of northern Syria. Why was the U.S. there in the first place; where do things stand now with Turkey, the Kurds, and Syria; and what effect did that decision have on the fight against ISIS? Brett McGurk is the Payne Distinguished Lecturer at FSI and the Center for International Security and Cooperation. He previously served as Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS at the U.S. Department of State. In this episode, McGurk discusses why the removal of U.S. troops from Syria is a big deal, the effect it has had on the fight against ISIS and security in northern Syria, and what it signals to the rest of the world.
Mon, 4 Nov 2019 - 22min - 106 - What Actually Happened Between Joe Biden and Ukraine, with Colin Kahl
Former Vice President Joe Biden’s name has appeared regularly in discussions about the controversial situation with Ukraine. What was Biden trying to achieve during his visit to Ukraine in 2015, and what is his connection to the controversy surrounding the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky? Colin Kahl is co-director of the Center for International Security and Cooperation and a senior fellow at FSI. From 2014 to 2017, he served as deputy assistant to President Barack Obama and national security advisor to Biden. In this episode, Kahl provides an inside look into what really happened between Biden and Ukrainian officials during that time period.
Tue, 15 Oct 2019 - 26min - 105 - Understanding Ukrainian Politics, with Sasha Ustinova
Ukraine has been in the news a lot lately in the context of U.S. politics, but we haven’t heard many Ukrainian perspectives in the U.S. media following the controversy surrounding the recent interactions between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. In this episode, Sasha Ustinova shares a Ukrainian perspective on the Trump-Zelensky phone call, provides context and background of Ukrainian politics, and discusses the fight against corruption inside Ukraine. A member of the Ukrainian parliament, Ustinova is also an alumna of the Ukrainian Emerging Leaders Program at Stanford’s Center on Democracy, Development and the Rule of Law.
Tue, 8 Oct 2019 - 20min - 104 - The Controversial Phone Call Between the U.S. and Ukrainian Presidents, with Steven Pifer
Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Steven Pifer breaks down the controversial July 25 phone call between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky. He talks about the context of what was going on between the U.S. and Ukraine when the call took place, what was discussed during the call, and why the situation is damaging U.S. diplomatic relations with Ukraine.
Wed, 2 Oct 2019 - 25min - 103 - The Fight Against Disinformation, with Alex Stamos
Following the Russian disinformation campaign surrounding the 2016 U.S. presidential election, election security and disinformation are now global issues. What should be done in order to protect the integrity of the upcoming 2020 U.S. presidential election, and who should be responsible for creating these protections? Alex Stamos — the former chief security officer at Facebook, who is now a research scholar at the Cyber Policy Center — picks up where he left off when he was on World Class in May, discussing the growth of — and battle against — online propaganda.
Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 22min - 102 - Retreating From Democracy, with Larry Diamond
Between 1991 and 2006 the world was dominated by liberal values and institutions, and we saw a major increase in the number of democracies around the globe. But for the past 13 years, global freedom has been on the decline. Larry Diamond, a senior fellow at the Center on Democracy, Development and the Rule of Law, discusses why the world may be on the cusp of a “democratic depression.”
Mon, 26 Aug 2019 - 23min - 101 - Human Rights and Free Speech in the Digital Age, with Eileen Donahoe
What is the evolution of thinking about digital technology, the companies that dominate it, and their responsibility to users of their platforms and the tenets of free speech? Eileen Donahoe, the executive director of the Global Digital Policy Incubator (GDPI) at FSI’s Cyber Policy Center, discusses the need for global internet guidelines, and GDPI’s mission to improve democratic values and human rights in the digital realm.
Wed, 24 Jul 2019 - 22min - 100 - The 2020 Election is a Big Test for Democracies Worldwide, with Nathaniel Persily
More needs to be done to protect against foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. election, and not just by the American government. Nathaniel Persily, co-director of the Cyber Policy Center and a senior Fellow at FSI updates us on how technology companies have changed the way they display political advertising, why other countries need to be on the lookout for disinformation campaigns, and how Americans’ attitudes toward the media could impact who becomes the next U.S. president.
Wed, 12 Jun 2019 - 19min - 99 - The Presidential Standoff in Venezuela, with Harold Trinkunas
The standoff over the presidency in Venezuela continues, with two men, Nicolás Maduro and Juan Guaidó, still claiming the office. Dr. Harold Trinkunas, deputy director of the Center for International Security and Cooperation at FSI, updates us on how the situation has evolved since the beginning of the political conflict, the interests of the U.S. and Russia in the country, and explains the three most likely scenarios of what might happen next.
Tue, 4 Jun 2019 - 21min - 98 - Facebook’s Former Chief Security Officer Alex Stamos Weighs in On the Mueller Report
Three weeks after the release of the Mueller Report, much of its content is still off-limits to the public. In this episode, former Facebook Chief Security Officer Alex Stamos shares his thoughts on what was and was not included in the public report, and what surprised him the most. A cybersecurity expert, business leader and entrepreneur, Alex Stamos is an adjunct professor at the Freeman Spogli Institute and a visiting scholar at the Hoover Institution.
Thu, 9 May 2019 - 22min - 97 - A Journalist’s Perspective on the Russia Investigation, with Greg Miller
Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his report to the Attorney General, but additional investigations into Russia’s interference in the 2016 U.S. election are now expected. Greg Miller and Mike McFaul discuss the challenges that policymakers and journalists face in investigating Russia, and how democracy in the U.S. has fared since 2016. Greg Miller is a national security correspondent for the Washington Post, a two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, and a Stanford alumnus (MA ’93). He is the author of "The Apprentice: Trump, Russia and the Subversion of American Democracy," a book exploring Russia’s effort to undermine the 2016 election. This podcast was recorded on March 20, 2019, two days before Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted his report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Fri, 5 Apr 2019 - 21min - 96 - Demystifying the U.S.-North Korea Relationship, with Scott Sagan
The United States-North Korea summit in Hanoi, Vietnam, was cut short and did not produce any agreement between the two countries on denuclearization. What does this outcome mean for the prospect of future diplomacy and the potential for armed conflict? Scott Sagan is a professor of political science at Stanford University, and a senior fellow at FSI and the Center for International Security and Cooperation. He has written and edited several books and articles on nuclear strategy and security, and the risks and proliferation of nuclear weapons worldwide. In this episode, Sagan analyzes President Trump’s uneven relationship with Kim Jong-un, assesses potential outcomes of an armed conflict with North Korea, and presents recent polling data on the American public’s support of nuclear weapon use.
Wed, 20 Mar 2019 - 22min - 95 - The Roots of Political Polarization, with Murat Somer
There’s a range of issues dividing voters in America today. As it turns out, though, the current polarization is not limited to the U.S. political system. What is triggering polarization, and what is the relationship between polarization and the populist movements underway globally? What, if anything, can be done to alleviate deepening political divides? Murat Somer is a Professor of Political Science and International Relations at Koç University in Istanbul, Turkey and a Visiting Scholar at Stanford. He has written several articles and books on polarization, democracy and democratic erosion across the world. In this conversation he explores the roots of polarization, the surprising similarities between Turkey and the US, and how we might heal divisions by taking a different approach to democratic politics.
Fri, 8 Mar 2019 - 24min - 94 - The Science of Gun Safety and Violence, with David Studdert
Gun violence is one of the most polarizing topics in America, and the gun debate is about to heat up. The Supreme Court has decided to hear a significant gun rights case, and House Democrats recently unveiled a landmark bill requiring background checks. All of this comes in the wake of the worst year for gun deaths in two decades. Gun violence goes beyond homicides – a large share of deaths are attributed to accidents and suicides. For many in the medical community this is a public health crisis, and they are working to understand the impacts on the health and safety on Americans. David Studdert is a professor of medicine and law at Stanford, and a core faculty member at Stanford Health Policy at FSI. In this discussion he shows us how emerging science may be able to clarify some of the most contentious issues surrounding gun safety.
Fri, 22 Feb 2019 - 20min - 93 - How Southeast Asian Nations Balance China-US Relations, with Don Emmerson
The economic and diplomatic tensions between the US and China are creating ripple effects across Southeast Asia. China is pursing an aggressive agenda of economic development throughout the region, and while there is undoubtedly a strong need for infrastructure projects, the Chinese strategy could limit the future autonomy of the Southeast Asian nations. If the US-China trade war were to escalate, Southeast Asia could be the battleground for a new cold war. Political Science professor Don Emmerson has spent his career working with scholars and policymakers in the region. Emmerson is a senior fellow at FSI and director of the Southeast Asia Program. In this interview he helps us understand the ASEAN coalition, why the South China Sea remains an area of contention, and what steps the US Congress is taking to assure Southeast Asian nations that it is committed to progress across the region.
Fri, 8 Feb 2019 - 22min - 92 - Religion, Rationality, and Democracy, with Dan Edelstein
Ever since the the scientific revolution of the 17th century, there has been tension between the institutions of science and religion. This tension between religion and science has a direct effect on governance. After all, the United States was conceived as a system of democratic institutions that valued reason and deliberation. But are religious beliefs and rationality completely at odds with one another? What exactly does it mean to be "rational?" Might it be necessary to understand more religious forms of rationality in order to heal some of the polarization present in America today? In this conversation we talk with Dan Edelstein, who is the William H. Bonsall Professor of French and an affiliate of the Freeman Spogli Institute's Europe Center. Professor Edelstein helps us understand the conflict between religion and rationality, how this conflict continues to play out in the present day, and what it all means for democratic institutions around the world.
Fri, 25 Jan 2019 - 21min - 91 - Former Facebook Chief Security Officer Alex Stamos on Russian Election Interference
We are still learning the details about Russia’s disinformation and manipulation campaigns during the US 2016 elections. Tech companies have come under intense scrutiny, and, according to former Facebook’s Chief Security Officer Alex Stamos, much of the spotlight on Big Tech is warranted. However, Stamos also argues that our government, the media, and we as citizens all have a role to play in the security of our elections. Stamos is now the William J. Perry Fellow at FSI, and in this conversation he offers an unrivaled diagnosis of everything that went wrong during the 2016 election cycle. In a future episode, Stamos will share his ideas of what we can do to prevent similar failures in the future.
Fri, 11 Jan 2019 - 23min - 90 - Marshall Burke on the Surprising Relationship between Suicide Rates and Climate Change
Climate change is likely to have far reaching impacts, and some consequences are particularly unexpected. In a provocative study, Marshall Burke and his colleagues demonstrate that suicide rates increase on hot days, regardless of other factors. Burke's findings raise significant questions. Are the underlying drivers of this relationship tied to economic forces, or are there human biological factors that exacerbate mental health issues? Can we forecast the overall effect as greenhouse gases and temperatures rise in the coming decades? What steps might we take now to mitigate the damages? In this conversation with World Class producer, Nicole Feldman, Burke offers a clear-eyed perspective on the wide-ranging implications of his research. Burke is the deputy director of FSI’s Center on Food Security and the Environment.
Fri, 28 Dec 2018 - 13min - 89 - Casper Klynge, Denmark's Ambassador to Silicon Valley
Silicon Valley's role in the world is now so big that some people argue the power of tech firms is similar to the powers of a nation-state. So maybe it's not too surprising to learn that Denmark has taken an unusual step, and has dispatched career diplomat Casper Klynge to serve as the world’s first tech ambassador. Klynge's role is to create avenues for dialogue, to work with firms to establish appropriate regulations, and to engage with Silicon Valley from a foreign policy perspective. In this conversation, Ambassador Klynge tells the story of how this came about, how he views his priorities, and how western societies are working to nurture innovation while simultaneously protecting the core principles of open democracy.
Fri, 14 Dec 2018 - 26min - 88 - Ambassador Wendy Sherman on negotiating the Iran Nuclear Deal
From 2011 to 2015 Ambassador Wendy Sherman was Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, the fourth-ranking official in the State Department. She was the lead U.S. negotiator on the Iran nuclear deal, and before that she served as policy coordinator on North Korea for President Clinton. She has a new book, Not for the Faint of Heart: Lessons in Courage, Power and Persistence. In this conversation, Ambassador Sherman shares the backstory on the Iran nuclear deal, the future of relations with Iran, and what it's like being the only woman in the room doing diplomacy.
Fri, 30 Nov 2018 - 26min - 87 - How Do We Stop a Man-Made Pandemic? with David Relman and Megan Palmer
Biosecurity threats are often overlooked. For years scientists have been saying that the world is overdue for a pandemic, and there's an ongoing risk that terrorists or nation states might weaponize diseases. If that's not worrying enough, the risks of pandemics increase as climate change worsens. What steps are we taking to understand and prepare for the next outbreak? David Relman is a senior fellow and Megan Palmer a senior research scholar at FSI’s Center for International Security and Cooperation. They are part of an interdisciplinary research initiative working to assess the threats posed by biological agents. In this wide-ranging conversation with Michael McFaul, Relman and Palmer unpack the complex issues, and offer their perspectives on how best to counter these threats.
Fri, 16 Nov 2018 - 23min - 86 - Colin Kahl on Khashoggi and Where the US Stands with Saudi Arabia
It is now clear that the murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi embassy in Turkey was a pre-planned execution, likely ordered by people at the very top of the Saudi government. The incident has sparked an international outcry, and raises questions about the US’s relationship with the Saudis. What is the underlying nature of the US-Saudi alliance? How has Trump's strategy differed from Obama’s, and what impact might all of this have on relations with Iran and elsewhere across the Middle East? Colin Kahl was deputy assistant to President Obama and a national security advisor to Vice President Biden from 2014 to 2017. He’s now the co-director of FSI’s Center for International Security and Cooperation, and the head of its Middle East Initiative. In this discussion with Michael McFaul, Kahl outlines the unease some American diplomats feel towards our relationship with Saudi Arabia. He explains steps that President Obama took to restructure the alliance, and he argues that President Trump’s decision to double-down in Saudi Arabia has narrowed the options for responding to an increasingly fractured relationship.
Tue, 6 Nov 2018 - 22min - 85 - Ambassador Eileen Donahoe on Digital Threats to the Midterm Elections
With the US midterms fast approaching, we are still trying to make sense of everything that happened in the 2016 elections. What do we now know about vulnerabilities in our democratic processes? What risks do we face from foreign adversaries? Beyond the US, how are governments around the world adjusting to threats posed by digital technologies? Eileen Donahoe was the first US Ambassador to the United Nations Human Rights Council during the Obama Administration. She’s now the Executive Director for the Global Digital Policy Incubator at FSI. Her current research focuses on cyber sovereignty, digital literacy, election security, protecting freedom of expression, and the impact of AI. In this conversation with Michael McFaul, Ambassador Donahoe frames the various threats posed by digital technologies, and the implications for the midterm elections.
Fri, 2 Nov 2018 - 22min - 84 - Francis Fukuyama Explains Identity Politics
“Identity politics" has become a driving force in political conversations in the U.S. and abroad, but what exactly is it? Where did it come from, and how will it shape the future of our society? FSI Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow and CDDRL Mosbacher Director Francis Fukuyama joins host Michael McFaul to explain how his new book, “Identity: The Demand for Dignity and the Politics of Resentment,” sheds light on these questions and reveals how our political trajectory from the civil rights era to 21st century populism has been shaped by a universal human desire for respect and recognition.
Fri, 19 Oct 2018 - 22min - 83 - Improving Black Men's Health in a Single Step
African American men have the lowest life expectancy of any major demographic group in the U.S. The reasons for this are many and complex, but new research from FSI's Stanford Health Policy suggests that there may be a straightforward solution: hiring doctors who look like the patients they're treating. Dr. Marcella Alsan, an associate professor of medicine at Stanford Health Policy, and her research partner, Dr. Owen Garrick, President and CEO of Bridge Clinical Research, join host Michael McFaul to discuss the reasons behind the health disparities for African American men; the theory, ethics and outcomes of their study; and what their findings should mean for the future of health care.
Fri, 5 Oct 2018 - 23min - 82 - Who Won the Trump-Kim Summit?
President Trump says the nuclear threat is behind us, but do the experts agree? Gi-Wook Shin, Scott Sagan, Kathleen Stephens, and Michael McFaul tell us about the winners and losers from the 2018 U.S.-North Korean Summit, what we should worry about, what denuclearization really means, and the eternal question: what comes next? Kathleen Stephens is the former U.S. ambassador to South Korea and a William J. Perry fellow at FSI. Scott Sagan has authored many books and articles on nuclear weapons as a senior fellow at FSI’s Center for International Security and Cooperation. Gi-Wook Shin founded the Korea Program at FSI’s Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center, which he directs. In addition to hosting World Class, Michael McFaul is the former U.S. ambassador to Russia and current director of FSI.
Wed, 12 Sep 2018 - 1h 22min - 81 - Michael McFaul: When Geopolitics Gets Personal
What’s it like to have a dictator after you? In the wake of Vladimir Putin’s “request” to interrogate former ambassador and World Class host Michael McFaul, the US public backlash was swift and strong. It’s extremely unlikely that McFaul will be asked to respond to Russian investigators - but many Americans were unnerved at the Trump administration’s response. Where do US-Russia relations stand in the aftermath of Helsinki? What are the practical implications for McFaul, and what will be the lasting impact for transgressing the diplomatic norms? Michael McFaul addresses all these questions in this candid conversation.
Fri, 3 Aug 2018 - 21min - 80 - How to Make a New Country
It's not so easy to create a whole new country, and the world map is much more fixed than it used to be. While there are many secessionist and independence movements around the globe, the truth is that international powers are extremely reluctant to redraw borders. Where are the unrecognized states in the world, and what commonalities do they share? What happens when our normal understanding of "sovereignty" breaks down? In this conversation with FSI Deputy Director Kathryn Stoner, Joshua Keating shares stories from his new book, Invisible Countries: Journey’s to the Edge of Nationhood. Keating is a foreign policy analyst and a staff writer at Slate.
Fri, 27 Jul 2018 - 20min - 79 - A Democracy Divided: The Roots of our Political Polarization
The gulf between right and left in America is widening by the day. How long has this been going on, and what can we learn by studying other Western democracies? Didi Kuo is an expert on democratization and political parties. She's a research scholar at the Center on Democracy, Development, and the Rule of Law at FSI, and she has a new book called, Clientelism, Capitalism, and Democracy: The Rise of Programmatic Politics in the United States and Britain.
Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 22min - 78 - When Your Government Doesn’t Want to Govern
The Venezuelan economy is disintegrating, yet president Nicolas Maduro has thus far been successful in squashing his political opposition. How has Maduro been able to remain in power, and what's the best-case scenario for Venezuela's future? We're joined today by Harold Trinkunas to examine the situation in Venezuela since the death of Hugo Chavez. Later in the conversation we also talk with Trinkunas about his book, Militants, Criminals, and Warlords: The Challenge of Local Governance in an Age of Disorder.
Fri, 13 Jul 2018 - 24min - 77 - Rebroadcast: Both Sides of The Border
Today's episode is a rebroadcast. In November of 2016, FSI's Center on Democracy, Development & The Rule of Law co-hosted a panel with Stanford's Center for Latin American studies. At this event, Latin scholars, students, and staff at Stanford explored what Donald Trump's election would mean on the US's southern border. Now, almost two years later the analysis and perspectives of our panelists continue to resonate.
Fri, 6 Jul 2018 - 1h 21min - 76 - Daniel Ellsberg on the continuing nuclear threat – from the US
Daniel Ellsberg is well-known for the Pentagon Papers, but few people realize he also has extensive experience with US nuclear weapons policy dating back to the 1950s and 60s. Last year, Ellsberg published a memoir called "The Doomsday Machine," where he argues that US developed immoral and dangerous policies during the Cold War, and that surprisingly little has changed in the years since. Ellsberg recently visited FSI’s Center for International Security and Cooperation (CISAC), where he participated in a Q&A about his new book.
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