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Ellen and Harriet are a mother and daughter who have been talking about Jane Austen together since Harriet was first old enough to read her. In this podcast, we will be doing a close reading of the books.In each episode, we will look at a few chapters. As well as talking about anything that strikes us in the chapters, we will also pick a favourite sentence, have a discussion about one of the characters, and then Ellen will give a social historian perspective about some element of the nineteenth century that seems pertinent, and Harriet will talk about the chapters in pop culture adaptations of the book.
- 45 - S04E10 Emma, Chapters 46 to 50
In this episode, we are joined by Harriet’s partner, Michael, and read chapters 46 to 50 of Emma. We talk about Emma’s emotional roller coaster, reactions to the Frank-Jane revelation, the proposal scene and Emma’s commitment to her father.
The character we discuss is Frank Churchill, and then Michael talks about the changing lifestyle of Regency gentleman. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about three books that are modernised versions of Emma.
Things we mention:
Character discussion:
Serene, The Piano Scene: through Jane’s eyes (11 December 2023) – and some other posts about EmmaPopular culture discussion:
Alexander McCall Smith, Emma: A modern retelling (2014)Sonali Dev, The Emma Project(2022)Audrey Bellezza and Emily Harding, Emma of 83rd Street(2023)Mäda Primavesi by Gustav KlimtCreative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Mon, 08 Apr 2024 - 44 - S04E09 Emma, Chapters 42 to 45
In this episode, we read chapters 42 to 45 of Emma. We talk about the dropping of clues about Jane and Frank, Donwell Abbey and Mr Knightley’s arrangements for the strawberry picking, how nobody is enjoying themselves at Box Hill, and the pressures on Jane.
The character we discuss is Emma, and in the historical section Ellen talks about watering places. In the popular culture section, Harriet reflects back on the screen adaptations of Emma, considering her favourite moments from each version, and then how they dealt with some of the major characters.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
Richard Cronin and Dorothy McMillan [Editors], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Emma (2005)Pod and Prejudice podcastJohn Sutherland, Is Heathcliff a murderer?: Puzzles in 19th-century fiction (1996) and Who Betrays Elizabeth Bennet?: Further Puzzles in Classic Fiction (1999)‘The Thing About the Irish Car Party‘, The Thing About Austenpodcast, Episode 70 Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Historical discussion:
Dorothy L. Sayers, Have His Carcase (1932)Beau Nash (1674-1762), well-known dandy and Master of Ceremonies at Bath‘The Thing About Weymouth‘, The Thing About Austenpodcast, Episode 45Arthur Ransome, Swallows and Amazons (1930)Popular culture discussion:
Adaptations:BBC, Emma (1972) – starring Doran Godwin and John CarsonMiramax, Emma (1996) – starring Gwyneth Paltrow and Jeremy NorthamITV, Emma (1996) – starring Kate Beckinsale and Mark StrongBBC, Emma (2009) – starring Romola Garai and Jonny Lee MillerWorking Title Films, Emma (2020) – starring Anya Taylor-Joy and Johnny FlynnModernisations:Paramount Pictures, Clueless (1995) – starring Alicia Silverstone and Paul RuddYouTube, Pemberley Digital, Emma Approved (2013) – starring Joanna Sotomura and Brent BaileyFor a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
Thu, 15 Feb 2024 - 43 - S04E08 Emma, Chapters 37 to 41
In this episode, we read chapters 37 to 41 of Emma. We talk about the parallel narratives, the ball at the Crown, Emma’s awareness of Mr Knightley, the section from Mr Knightley’s point of view and the tension between Jane and Frank.
The character we discuss is Mr Knightley, and in the historical section Ellen talks about poverty and the labouring classes. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 2017 YouTube series The Emma Agenda.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
Pod and Prejudice podcastTea with Cassiane YouTube videos about Regency dancingSomerset MaughamHistorical discussion:
The Speenhamland systemAnthony Trollope, The Warden (1855)Robert RaikesHannah MorePopular culture discussion:
Main version considered:YouTube, Quip Modest Productions, The Emma Agenda (2017) – starring Selis Maria Vargas and Angela Wong CarboneOther referencesYouTube, Pemberley Digital, Emma Approved (2013) – starring Joanna Sotomura and Brent BaileyITV, Emma (1996) – starring Kate Beckinsale and Mark StrongWorking Title Films, Emma (2020) – starring Anya Taylor-Joy and Johnny FlynnCreative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Thu, 28 Dec 2023 - 42 - S04E07 Emma, Chapters 32 to 36
In this episode, we read chapters 32 to 36 of Emma. We talk about the civil society of Highbury, why Jane puts up with Mrs Elton, and Emma’s dinner party.
The character we discuss is Mrs Elton, and Ellen talks about governesses. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 2013 YouTube series Emma Approved .
Things we mention:
Character discussion:
Diana Birchall, In Defense of Mrs Elton (1999) John Mullan [Editor], The Oxford World’s Classics Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Emma (2022) Mary Deforest, ‘Mrs. Elton and the Slave Trade‘ Persuasions 9, 1987Lona Manning, ‘What is Austen saying with Mrs. Elton?‘, 9 February 2023John Sutherland, Can Jane Eyre be happy? (2000)Thomas Gray, ‘Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard‘ (1751)Historical discussion:
Elizabeth Eastlake, ‘Vanity Fairand Jane Eyre‘, Quarterly Review 84, 1848Anna Jameson, The Diary of an Ennuyée (1826)William Makepeace Thackeray, Vanity Fair (1847)Maria Edgeworth, The Good French Governess (1801)Ellen Jordan, The Women’s Movement and Women’s Employment in Nineteenth Century Britain (1999)Graphshowing percentages of governesses, female milliners and domestic servants in various age groups as shown in the census of 1851.Popular culture discussion:
Main version considered:YouTube, Pemberley Digital, Emma Approved (2013) – starring Joanna Sotomura and Brent BaileyOther referencesYouTube, Pemberley Digital, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) – starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhParamount Pictures, Clueless (1995) – starring Alicia Silverstone and Paul RuddFor a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
Fri, 17 Nov 2023 - 41 - S04E06 Emma, Chapters 27 to 31
In this episode, we read chapters 27 to 31 of Emma. We talk about the entwined group of people who visit one another, how so many scenes read differently the second time through, Miss Bates’s monologues, Jane and the piano, reactions to the plan of having a ball, and Emma encouraging Harriet to stop thinking about Mr Elton.The character we discuss is Harriet Smith, and Ellen talks about illegitimacy. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 1995 modernisation Clueless.
Also, we are now on Instagram, at reading_jane_austen.Things we mention:
General discussion:
John Mullan, What Matters in Jane Austen?: Twenty Crucial Puzzles Solved (2012)Character discussion:
Edith Lank, ‘“The word was blunder”: Who was Harriet Smith’s Mother?‘ Persuasions 7, 1985: 14-15Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016)Historical discussion:
Max Weber (1864-1920)Claire Tomalin, Charles Dickens (2011)Christine Kenyon Jones, ‘Ambiguous Cousinship: Mansfield Park and the Mansfield Family‘ Persuasions On-line 31 (1), 2010BBC, Olivia Colman episode of Who Do You Think You Are (2018), Season 15, Episode 2Popular culture discussion:
Main version considered:Paramount Pictures, Clueless (1995) – starring Alicia Silverstone and Paul RuddOther 1990s/2000s high school films based on classic literature10 Things I Hate About You (1999), based on The Taming of the ShrewCruel Intentions(1999), based on Les Liaisons dangereusesShe’s All That (1999), based on Pygmalion/ My Fair LadyO (2001), based on OthelloShe’s the Man(2006), based on Twelfth NightEasy A (2010), based on The Scarlet LetterFor a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
Sun, 10 Sep 2023 - 40 - S04E05 Emma, Chapters 22 to 26
In this episode, we read chapters 22 to 26 of Emma. We talk about Frank’s arrival, the dinner at the Coles, and the way so much looks different in a second reading,
The characters we discuss are Mr and Mrs Weston, including a consideration of what we know of Mrs Weston’s pregnancy. Ellen talks about social customs, including calling and dinner parties. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 2020 Working Title Films adaptation of Emma.
Things we mention:
General discussion:
Richard Cronin and Dorothy McMillan [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Emma (2005)Character discussion:
Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Historical discussion:
‘Regency Dinner Parties and Etiquette‘, The Jane Austen Centre (2011)Popular culture discussion:
Main version considered:Working Title Films, Emma (2020) – starring Anya Taylor-Joy and Johnny FlynnVideos and web pages about costumingYouTube, Bernadette Banner, ‘5 Historical Films That Got the Costumes RIGHT‘ (2020)YouTube, Karolina Żebrowska, ‘Are “Emma.” (2020) Costumes Historically Accurate? aka What Makes Good Period Drama Costumes‘ (2020)‘Emma (2020)‘, Frock Flicks (2020)Filming locations:Firle PlaceWilton HouseCreative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Mon, 10 Jul 2023 - 39 - S04E04 Emma, Chapters 16 to 21
In this episode, we are joined by Harriet’s partner, Michael, and read chapters 16 to 21 of Emma. We talk about the mystery plots, Emma’s fantasies, Emma and Mr Knightley’s interactions, and Harriet’s encounter with Mr Martin (which had us revisiting the map of Highbury).
The character we discuss is Miss Bates, and then Michael talks about army widows and orphans. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 2009 BBC adaptation of Emma.
Things we mention:
General discussion:
John Mullan, What Matters in Jane Austen?: Twenty Crucial Puzzles Solved (2012)Map of Highbury, created by Professor Penny Gay of the University of Sydney, and reproduced with her permission. The map was drawn in the 1980s and published in Penny Gay’s work Jane Austen’s Emma (Horizon Studies in Literature) Sydney University Press, 1995. More information about it is available in ‘A Hypothetical Map of Highbury‘, Persuasions Online, Volume 36, No. 1, Winter 2015.Character discussion:
Elizabeth Gaskell, Cranford(1853)Agatha Christie’s books and stories featuring Miss MarpleLucy F. March Phillipps, My life and what shall I do with it? By an old maid (1918)Mary Russell Mitford, Letter to W.W. Ogbourn (April 3, 1815) – read the extract about Jane AustenDorothy L. Sayers, Gaudy Night (1935)Popular culture discussion:
Main version considered:BBC, Emma (2009) – starring Romola Garai and Jonny Lee MillerOther versions mentionedBBC, Emma (1972) – starring Doran Godwin and John CarsonMiramax, Emma (1996) – starring Gwyneth Paltrow and Jeremy NorthamITV, Emma (1996) – starring Kate Beckinsale and Mark StrongFor a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
Thu, 25 May 2023 - 38 - S04E03 Emma, Chapters 11 to 15
In this episode, we read chapters 11 to 15 of Emma. We talk about the introduction of John and Isabella Knightley, how Emma really doesn’t understand the social world, the clash between Isabella and Mr Woodhouse about health – and how Emma and Mr Knightley are running interference – and the way in which the Frank/Jane plot is beginning to be introduced before the Harriet/Mr Elton plot is resolved.
The character we discuss is Mr Elton, and then Ellen talks about apothecaries. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 1996 ITV telemovie adaptation of Emma.
Things we mention:
General discussion:
Google Map of Emma locationsCharacter discussion:
John Mullan, What Matters in Jane Austen?: Twenty Crucial Puzzles Solved (2012)Historical discussion:
Irvine Loudon. 1986. Medical Care and the General Practitioner, 1750-1850. (1986)S W F Holloway, ‘The Apothecaries’ Act of 1815: A Reinterpretation.’ Medical History 10, 1966: 107-29, 221-36Popular culture discussion:
Main version considered:ITV, Emma (1996) – starring Kate Beckinsale and Mark StrongOther versions mentionedBBC, Emma (1972) – starring Doran Godwin and John CarsonMiramax, Emma (1996) – starring Gwyneth Paltrow and Jeremy NorthamCreative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Fri, 21 Apr 2023 - 37 - S04E02 Emma, Chapters 6 to 10
In this episode, we read chapters 6 to 10 of Emma. We talk about the hints Jane Austen gives us about Emma’s blunders, Emma’s manipulation of Harriet after Mr Martin’s proposal, the argument between Emma and Mr Knightley, Harriet’s riddle book, Emma’s and Mr Elton’s respective views of his place in the social hierarchy, and Emma’s lack of need to get married. (There was also a lengthy discussion of ‘Kitty, a fair but frozen maid’, which we ended up editing out, and just pointing to Lona Manning’s article and blog posts on the subject.)
We discuss the Martin family (specifically, Mr Martin and his mother), and in the historical section Ellen talks about vicars and parish business. Harriet talks about the 1996 Miramax film adaptation of Emma.
For a list of references, see this episode on our website.Sun, 19 Mar 2023 - 36 - S04E01 Emma, Chapters 1 to 5
In this episode, we read the first five chapters of Emma. We give a brief publishing history, and talk about how much we learn about the occupants of Highbury, the introduction of the relationship between Emma and Mr Knightley, Emma’s manipulation of Harriet, and Emma’s personality (and how our views of her are changing on this readthrough).
The character we discuss is Mr Woodhouse, and in the historical section Ellen talks about boarding schools. Harriet gives an overview of all of the popular culture versions of Emma, and explains that due to the number of adaptations there have been, she will talk about one version each episode, rather than trying to cover all of them. For this episode, she talks about the 1972 BBC adaptation.
For a list of references, see this episode on our website.
Mon, 20 Feb 2023 - 35 - S03E11 Mansfield Park: Episode 11, Chapters 46-48In this episode, we finish up reading Mansfield Park, with Chapters 46 to 48. We talk about contrasts within the book, the attitude to Maria and Henry, Edmund and Fanny’s views of Mary, Sir Thomas’s reflections in the final chapter, the wrapping up of the other characters and how we are told about Edmund falling in love with Fanny.
We discuss Fanny Price, then Ellen talks about principle and education, and Harriet looks at how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
Margaret Drabble, “Introduction”, Mansfield Park (1996 – Signet Classics edition)Anthony Powell, Casanova’s Chinese Restaurant [volume 5 of A Dance to the Music of Time] (1960)William Shakespeare, Henry IV Parts 1 and 2Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Tony Tanner, various works including “Introduction”, Mansfield Park (1966 – Penguin Books edition)Marvin Mudrick, Jane Austen; irony as defense and discovery (1952)Mary Brunton, Self-Control (1810)Linda V Troost and Sayre N Greenfield, “A History of the Fanny Wars”, Persuasions 36 (1), 2014, pp. 15–33.D W Harding, ‘Regulated Hatred: An aspect of the work of Jane Austen’, Scrutiny, 8 (4), 1940, pp. 346–362.C S Lewis, ‘A Note on Jane Austen’, Essays in Criticism, IV (4), October 1954, pp. 359–371.Lionel Trilling, “Mansfield Park“, Partisan Review 21 (September-October 1954): 492-511. Also published in Encounter, September 1954: 9-19.Kingsley Amis, “What Became of Jane Austen?”, The Spectator, 4 October 1957 – republished in What Became of Jane Austen? And Other Questions (1970)Historical discussion:
Maria Edgeworth, Moral Tales: Angelina; Or L’amie Inconnue. the Good French Governess. Mademoiselle Panache. the Knapsack (1801)Popular culture discussion:
Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O’Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)D.E. Stevenson, Celia’s House (1943)For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
Sun, 06 Nov 2022 - 34 - Bonus mini-episode - 'Rational Creatures' co-creators
In this bonus mini-episode, Harriet has a discussion with three of the co-creators of webseries Rational Creatures.
This series, based on Persuasion, started in 2019, but then had to go on a long and unexpected hiatus due to the global pandemic.
Just as Jane Austen used her books to shed light on social issues of her time, RATIONAL CREATURES reflects the world around us now by including complex female characters, happy queer stories, mental and chronic illness, and a bisexual Latina lead.
(https://rationalseries.wixsite.com/site/about)
The series paused after Episode 5, on 15 October 2019, and resumed on 20 September 2022. Shortly before this, Harriet was invited to have a conversation with three of the co-creators: Jessamyn Leigh, Anya Steiner and Hazel Jeffs.
You can check out Rational Creatures at:
Official websiteYouTubeFacebookTwitterInstagramSun, 02 Oct 2022 - 33 - S03E10 Mansfield Park: Episode 10, Chapters 40-45
In this episode, we read Chapters 40 to 45 of Mansfield Park. We talk about the plot of a girl brought up in privileged circumstances returning to her family, Mary’s letters and how Fanny responds to them, the success of Henry’s visit, Edmund’s letter to Fanny, and Tom’s illness.
We discuss the Price family (with a slight digression into the idea of disposition and principle), then Ellen talks about servants and Harriet looks at how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Charlotte M. Yonge, The Pillars of the House (1873)Historical discussion:
Claire Tomalin, Charles Dickens: A Life (2011)Popular culture discussion:
Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O’Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)Other references:Susan Coolidge, What Katy Did Next (1886)Creative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Fri, 30 Sep 2022 - 32 - S03E09 Mansfield Park: Episode 9, Chapters 35-39
In this episode, we read Chapters 35 to 39 of Mansfield Park. We talk about how Edmund and Mary dismiss Fanny’s concerns about Henry, Sir Thomas’s decision to send Fanny back to Portsmouth, Fanny and William’s journey, the comedy of the arrival in Portsmouth, Fanny’s reaction to the house, and the very realistic and grounded nature of the Portsmouth scenes .
We discuss Edmund Bertram, then Harriet’s partner Michael talks about the Marines. Harriet looks at how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters, and then Ellen talks about a later nineteenth century novel influenced by Mansfield Park.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943)Historical discussion:
Brian Southam, Jane Austen and the Navy (2003)Popular culture discussion:
Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O’Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)Charlotte M. Yonge, Heartsease (1854)
And an article about the connection with Mansfield Park:June Sturrock, “Money, morals, and Mansfield Park: the West Indies revisited“, Persuasions: The Jane Austen Journal, vol. 28, annual 2006, pp. 176+.For a list of music used, and a map of Mansfield Parklocations, see this episode on our website.
Sun, 04 Sep 2022 - 31 - S03E08 Mansfield Park: Episode 8, Chapters 31-34
In this episode, we read Chapters 31 to 34 of Mansfield Park. We talk about Fanny's initial failure to realise she has received a true proposal, the amount of pressure placed on her to accept, the picture everyone has of little, modest Fanny, and the difference between Sir Thomas and Fanny's views of marriage.
We discuss Henry Crawford, then Ellen talks about ordination, and Harriet looks at how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters, particularly the scene between Fanny and Sir Thomas.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
Barbara Pym, Excellent Women (1952)The Daily Knightley (2021) [podcast]Historical discussion:
Irene Collins, Jane Austen and the Clergy (2002)The 1559 Book of Common PrayerGeorgina Battiscombe, John Keble: A Study in Limitations (1963)Popular culture discussion:
Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O’Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)Comment on previous episode
The Thing About Austen [podcast]Creative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Sun, 07 Aug 2022 - 29 - S03E07 Mansfield Park: Episode 7, Chapters 26-30
In this episode, we read Chapters 26 to 30 of Mansfield Park. We talk about Fanny’s preparations for the ball, the amber cross, her emotion reactions after Edmund gives her the chain, her post-ball meeting with Mary, and the scene where Henry tells Mary he plans to marry Fanny.
We discuss Lady Bertram, then Ellen talks about what is meant by being ‘out’, and Harriet follows this with some information about balls and dancing. Harriet also talks about how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016) [sees the amber cross and chain as a metaphor for slavery and Christianity]Jillian Heydt-Stevenson, Jane Austen’s Unbecoming Conjunctions: Subversive Laughter, Embodied History(2005) [sees the amber cross, chain and necklace as a sexual metaphor]The topaz crosses that belonged to Jane and Cassandra Austen:
Credit:Jane Austen’s House Museum, photography by Peter SmithAdrian Dickens, Jewels of the Regency (2022 – YouTube video of presentation to the Jane Austen Society of Australia)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) The Daily Knightley (2021) [podcast]John Sutherland, Can Jane Eyre be happy?(2000)William Hogarth, The Painter and his Pug(1745)
The Regency novels of Georgette Heyer (1902-1974)Historical discussion:
Tea with Cassiane YouTube videos about Regency dancing5 Things That Jane Austen Films Always Get Wrong About the Dancing (2020)A Regency Dancer Analyzes Jane Austen’s Ballroom Scenes (2021)A Regency Dancer Reads Jane Austen Part 2 (Mansfield Park, Sense and Sensibility, and The Watsons) (2022)Popular culture discussion:
Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O’Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
Tue, 24 May 2022 - 28 - S03E06 Mansfield Park: Episode 6, Chapters 22-25
In this episode, we read Chapters 22 to 25 of Mansfield Park. We talk about the friendship between Fanny and Mary, the tension between Mary and Edmund, Henry’s plan to make Fanny fall in love with him (and Mary’s reaction), William’s view of Fanny, the tour de force of Chapter 25 (the Speculation chapter), and Ellen’s articulation of why she cares about what happens to Fanny.
We discuss Dr and Mrs Grant, then Harriet’s partner Michael talks about the navy, with a focus on the process of passing from midshipman to lieutenant. Harriet talks about how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Pam Perkins, “A Subdued Gaiety: The Comedy of Mansfield Park“, Nineteenth-Century Literature, Vol. 48, No. 1 (Jun., 1993).Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) Barbara Pym, Excellent Women (1952) Mary Grant Bruce, Back to Billabong (1921) [NB Goodreads has put up a quite misleading cover illustration.]Charlotte Brontë, Jane Eyre (1847)Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist (1838)Charles Dickens, David Copperfield (1850) Kate Douglas Wiggin, Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm (1903) L.M. Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables (1908)Eleanor H. Porter, Pollyanna(1913)J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone (1997)Frances Burney (Burneyesque heroine)Elizabeth Goudge, Henrietta’s House (1942)Historical discussion:
Brian Southam, Jane Austen and the Navy (2003) Samantha Cavell, Playing at command: midshipmen and quarterdeck boys in the Royal Navy, 1793-1815 (2006) [Master’s thesis] and A Social History of Midshipmen and Quarterdeck Boys in the Royal Navy, 1761-1831 (2010) [Ph.D. thesis]For a list of other references and music used, see this episode on our website.
Mon, 18 Apr 2022 - 27 - S03E05 Mansfield Park: Episode 5, Chapters 17-21
In this episode, we read Chapters 17 to 21 of Mansfield Park. We talk about Fanny’s moral trajectory during the theatricals, Mary’s casual acceptance of Henry’s behaviour with Maria, the cliffhanger ending of Volume 1 in the first edition, and Fanny’s question to Sir Thomas about the slave trade (with Harriet’s theory as to why she asked it).
We talk about Sir Thomas, first considering how he is presented in the text, and then how we reconcile this with the fact that his estate in Antigua is worked by enslaved people. Ellen looks at the clergy, including the presentation of livings, pluralism and absenteeism, and the career path for the clergy. Harriet talks about the popular culture versions.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) Edward Said, Culture and Imperialism (1993)Lona Manning, In Defense of Sir Thomas (2021)Octavia Cox, Which is the worst marriage in Jane Austen’s novels? (2021 – YouTube video)HBO, The Sopranos (1999-2007 – television series)Historical discussion:
Susannah Fullerton, Susannah Fullerton’s Best Books about Jane Austen (2021 – YouTube video)Irene Collins, Jane Austen and the Clergy (2002)Popular culture discussion:
Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O’Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)Creative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata&Tue, 22 Mar 2022 - 26 - S03E04 Mansfield Park: Episode 4, Chapters 12-16
In this episode, we read Chapters 12 to 16 of Mansfield Park. We talk about why Fanny refuses to act, why Edmund agrees to join in, the sheer amount of comedy in the scenes of the theatricals, and the Cinderella aspect of the plot.
We talk about Tom Bertram, and then Ellen looks at theatre in the Regency period, and why Fanny and Edmund disapprove of the the theatricals. Harriet talks about the popular culture versions, including some modernisations and a variation that she hasn’t looked at before.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Lionel Trilling, “Mansfield Park“, Partisan Review 21 (September-October 1954): 492-511. Also published in Encounter, September 1954: 9-19.Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943)Historical discussion:
Chuck Hudson, ‘Theatre in Georgian England’ (2015)Elizabeth Inchbald, Lovers’s Vows [full text on Project Gutenberg] (1798)Deirdre Le Faye [Editor], Jane Austen’s Letters (1995)Lionel Trilling, “Mansfield Park“, Partisan Review 21 (September-October 1954): 492-511. Also published in Encounter, September 1954: 9-19.Claudia L. Johnson and Clara Tuite, 30 Great Myths about Jane Austen (2020)Popular culture discussion:
Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O’Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:Westerly Films, Allagash Films, Metropolitan (1990) – starring Carolyn Farina and Edward ClementsYouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)D.E. Stevenson, Celia’s House (1943)John Mullan, Live at the Hay Festival(2014) [YouTube] – referred to in the discussion of Celia’s HouseVariations:Lona Manning, A Contrary Wind(2017), A Marriage of Attachment (2018) and A Different Kind of Woman (2020)For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
Sun, 27 Feb 2022 - 25 - S03E03 Mansfield Park: Episode 3, Chapters 8-11
In this episode, we read Chapters 8 to 11 of Mansfield Park. We revisit the issue of how Jane Austen opposes Fanny and Mary, and look at the flirting techniques of Mary and Henry, Fanny’s expectations of Edmund, whether there is symbolism in the scene at the ha-ha, and Mary’s criticism of Dr Grant.
The characters we talk about are Maria and Julia, and then Ellen looks at the idea of improvement of estates – and what a ha-ha is. Harriet’s discussion of the popular culture versions is a bit shorter than usual, owing to the fact that two of the adaptations completely omit the Sotherton section.
For a list of references and other links, plus photographs of ha-has, see this episode on our website.Tue, 25 Jan 2022 - 24 - S03E02 Mansfield Park: Episode 2, Chapters 4-7
In this episode, we read Chapters 4 to 7 of Mansfield Park. We talk about the character-revealing scenes, how the presentation of Fanny may make some readers dislike her, why Maria became engaged to Mr Rushworth, and Henry Crawford’s behaviour.
We discuss the character of Mary Crawford – who is perhaps almost as divisive as Fanny Price – and then Ellen talks about baronets, Members of Parliament, and the idea of ‘interest’. Harriet considers how the three adaptations, and two of the modernisations, present these chapters.
Things we mention:
General and character discussion:
John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Lionel Trilling, “Mansfield Park“, Partisan Review 21 (September-October 1954): 492-511. Also published in Encounter, September 1954: 9-19.Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)John Mullan, Live at the Hay Festival(2014) [YouTube]Kingsley Amis, “What Became of Jane Austen?”, The Spectator, 4 October 1957 – republished in What Became of Jane Austen? And Other Questions (1970)The Daily Knightley (2021) [podcast]Popular culture discussion:
Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O’Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)D.E. Stevenson, Celia’s House (1943)Creative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen. Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Fri, 31 Dec 2021 - 23 - S03E01.5 Mansfield Park, Extras from episode 1
This is a bit of an in-between episode. About two months ago, when we were getting ready to record Episode 2, Ellen came down with a bad virus – not COVID, but recovery has been a slow process. We’re just about to start recording again, but it means there’s going to be more of a gap before Episode 2, and probably between the other episodes as well, since we don’t have any edited and ready to go in advance.
To fill in the space before Episode 2, we’ve put together some of the bits we had to edit out of Episode 1. It’s a bit disjointed, but we hope you enjoy it.
Creative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Sun, 05 Dec 2021 - 22 - S03E01 Mansfield Park, Chapters 1 to 3
In this episode, we read the first three chapters of Mansfield Park. We give a brief publishing history, and talk about how the opening chapters really prepare the way for the rest of the book, with all of the characters and relationships being set up, how the three Miss Wards come from a not dissimilar background from Pride and Prejudice’s Miss Gardiners (Mrs Bennet and Mrs Phillips), and how the novel’s themes of education and principle are introduced. The character we talk about is Mrs Norris.
In a longer than usual historical segment, Ellen talks about the historical background to Sir Thomas’s estate in Antigua, and the extent to which all members of the gentry were complicit in slavery. We follow this up with a conversation on how discussions of slavery are now part of the discourse on Mansfield Park. Harriet identifies four different approaches:
People who can’t read the book because of the connection with slaveryPeople who feel that perhapsthe estate in Antigua did not use enslaved peoplePeople who feel that the novel is aboutslavery – and, specifically, that it is an abolitionist novelPeople who feel that slavery is part of the context of the novel – one of the aspects of Janen Austen’s society that today we find abhorrent – but it is not a focus of the novel. We need to be open to discussing the novel in a post-colonial light, but that does not mean the novel is about slavery.We would like to thank Damianne Scott, who runs the Facebook page Black Girl Loves Jane, for reviewing the historical segment for us, and providing feedback.
To finish the episode, Harriet gives an overview of various popular culture versions of Mansfield Park.
For a list of references and other links, see this episode on our website.
Tue, 23 Nov 2021 - 21 - S02E10 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 47 to 50
In this episode, we read the final chapters of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about Elinor being the ‘moral spokesperson’ for the book, why Marianne marries Colonel Brandon, how Edward is less dashing than both Willoughby and Brandon, the social and financial gap between Elinor and Marianne after their marriages, and Lucy’s marriage to Robert. We also revisit the sense vs sensibility concept, and how the novel is both flawed and wonderful.
We discuss the character of Elinor, then Ellen talks about art, music and writing, and Harriet takes a final look at the popular culture versions.
Things we mention:
References:
Marjorie Theobauld, Knowing Women: Origins of Women’s Education in Nineteenth-Century Australia (1996) Claire Tomalin, Jane Austen: A Life (1997)Robert Chapman [Editor], Jane Austen’s Letters to her Sister Cassandra and Others (1969)Eighteenth- and nineteenth-century women writers:
Married/de factoMary Brunton (1778–1818): Self-Control (1810)Fanny Burney (1752–1840): Cecilia (1782 – written before she was married), Camilla(1796 – written after she was married) Anna Barbauld (1743–1825)Martha Sherwood (1775–1851): The Fairchild Family (1818)Mary Shelley (1797–1851)Margaret Gatty (1809–1873)Elizabeth Gaskell (1810–1865)Anna Lefroy (1793–1872)George Eliot (1793–1872) SingleCharlotte Brontë (1816–1855) Emily Brontë (1818–1848) Anne Brontë (1820–1849) Maria Edgeworth (1768–1849): Belinda(1801)Hannah More (1745–1833): Coelebs in Search of a Wife (1808) Susan Ferrier (1782–1854)Read more:Adaptations of the book, Modernisations of the book, Creative Commons music used.
Mon, 28 Jun 2021 - 20 - S02E09 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 42 to 46
In this episode, we read Chapters 42 to 46 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how Marianne’s illness is presented (including the un-dramatic way in which she gets sick, and the lack of emotional response), what Colonel Brandon could be doing all day, how Mrs Dashwood is pushing Colonel Brandon and Marianne together, and Jane Austen’s use of grotesques.
We discuss Willoughby (with a digression onto Miss Grey), and Ellen talks about medical practitioners in the early nineteenth century. Harriet reviews how the popular culture versions deal with some of the key events in these chapters: how Marianne gets sick, Willoughby’s visit, and the development of a relationship between Marianne and Colonel Brandon.
Things we mention:
References:
Edward Copeland [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Sense and Sensibility (2006)Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016) Ann Radcliffe, The Mysteries of Udolpho(1794)Anthony Trollope, Can you forgive her?(1865)Walt Disney Pictures, Beauty and the Beast(1991)Adaptations of the book:
BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes)Modernisations of the book:
Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiMWM Studios, From Prada to Nada (2011) – starring Camilla Belle and Alexa PenaVegaYouTube, Elinor and Marianne Take Barton (2014) – starring Abi Davies and Bonita TriggCreative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio. Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Wed, 02 Jun 2021 - 19 - S02E08 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 37 to 41
In this episode, we read Chapters 37 to 41 of Sense and Sensibility (which was where Volume 3 started in the original publication). We talk about how the news of Edward and Lucy is spread, the picture we get of Lucy and Anne’s relationship, the resurgence of the ‘cautionary tale’, and how this is the second time Colonel Brandon asks Elinor to deliver a message for him.
We discuss the character of Edward, including our disagreement with Helena Kelly’s view in Jane Austen: the Secret Radical(and see also our extended argument against her claim that there is symbolic meaning behind Edward cutting up a scissors sheath). Ellen talks about the clergy in Jane Austen’s day, and Harriet reviews the popular culture versions, particularly looking at how the adaptations treat the scene between Edward and Elinor, and what the modernisations do with the Edward-Lucy-Elinor plot.
Things we mention:
References:
Edward Copeland [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Sense and Sensibility (2006)Robert Rodi, Bitch In a Bonnet: Reclaiming Jane Austen From the Stiffs, the Snobs, the Simps and the Saps (2011) Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016) See also our argument against her claims of symbolic meaning behind Edward Ferrars cutting up a scissors sheathLona Manning, ‘Jane Austen: the Secret Radical by Helena Kelly, a review in three parts’ (2017)Adaptations of the book:
BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes)Modernisations of the book:
Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiMWM Studios, From Prada to Nada (2011) – starring Camilla Belle and Alexa PenaVegaSilver Peak Productions, Scents and Sensibility (2011) – starring Ashley Williams and Marla SokoloffJoanna Trollope, Sense & Sensibility (The Austen Project #1) (2013)YouTube, Elinor and Marianne Take Barton (2014) – starring Abi Davies and Bonita TriggTue, 11 May 2021 - 18 - S02E07 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 32 to 36
In this episode, we read Chapters 32 to 36 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how this is a transitional section, and yet contains some of the funniest scenes in the book. We consider the different styles of the intertwined plots (the ‘Marianne plot’, the ‘Elinor plot’ and the ‘moral story’), talk about the comic scenes with Robert Ferrars and with John Dashwood, and the emotional – but also funny – scene with Edward. We also talk about primogeniture and family obligations.
We discuss Mrs Dashwood, and Ellen talks about the London locations in the book (see also this map Harriet has put together). Harriet reviews how the popular culture versions deal with these chapters.
Map of locations:
Google map of the places mentioned in Sense and Sensibility, including approximate locations of the houses. Zoom in to see the London locations.
Things we mention:
References:
Edward Copeland [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Sense and Sensibility (2006)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950) Elaine and LancelotWalter Scott, The Bride of Lammermoor (1819)Alexander Pope, ‘Elegy to the Memory of an Unfortunate Lady‘ (1717)William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Much Ado About Nothingand Twelfth NightMaria Edgeworth, Moral Tales(1801) Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016)Film and television adaptations of the book:
BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes)Modernisations of the book:
Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiMWM Studios, From Prada to Nada (2011) – starring Camilla Belle and Alexa PenaVegaJoanna Trollope, Sense & Sensibility (The Austen Project #1) (2013)Creative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio. Extract frSat, 17 Apr 2021 - 17 - S02E06 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 26 to 31
In this episode, we read Chapters 26 to 31 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how unsatisfying Ellen found several of these chapters, the role of gossip, the similarity between Elinor’s and Marianne’s situations, the importance of reputation, and whether the turnaround in our perception of Mrs Jennings was planned for by Jane Austen.
We discuss the character of Marianne, then Harriet’s partner, Michael, talks about duelling in Regency England. Harriet talks about how the adaptations present these sections, and how the modernisations update the Willoughby-Colonel Brandon-Marianne stories.
Things we mention:
References:
Claire Tomalin, Jane Austen: A Life (1997) Dorothy L. Sayers, Gaudy Night (1935) – it is in this book that Lord Peter Wimsey comments on duelling with pistols rather than swords The Regency novels of Georgette Heyer (1902-1974)Adaptations of the book:
BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes)Modernisations of the book:
Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiMGM, Material Girls (2006) – starring Hilary Duff and Haylie DuffMWM Studios, From Prada to Nada (2011) – starring Camilla Belle and Alexa PenaVegaSilver Peak Productions, Scents and Sensibility (2011) – starring Ashley Williams and Marla SokoloffJoanna Trollope, Sense & Sensibility (The Austen Project #1) (2013)YouTube, Elinor and Marianne Take Barton (2014) – starring Abi Davies and Bonita TriggCreative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio. Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen. Extract fromTue, 23 Mar 2021 - 16 - S02E05 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 21 to 25
In this episode, we read Chapters 21to 25 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about Jane Austen’s use of compound sentences, Lady Middleton’s concern with gentility, the verbal fencing match between Elinor and Lucy, Elinor’s emotions, and Mrs Jennings’ invitation to Elinor and Marianne.
We discuss Lucy and Anne Steele, and then Ellen talks about childhood in the time of Jane Austen. Harriet talks about adaptations, and two of the modernisations.
At the end of the episode, we respond to some listener feedback about the book Jane Austen, the Secret Radical. As an extension of this, you can read our analysis of the timeline around the birth of Eliza Williams.
Things we mention:
References:
Edward Copeland [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Sense and Sensibility (2006)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950) Peter Laslett, The World We Have Lost (1965) Philippe Ariès, Centuries of Childhood: A Social History of Family Life (1960)Mary Martha Sherwood, The Fairchild Family (1818)Thomas Day, The History of Sandford and Merton (1783) Honora Edgeworth and Richard Lovell Edgeworth, Practical Education (1780)Charlotte Brontë, Jane Eyre (1847)Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016)See also our discussion of Kelly’s arguments about Brandon’s story. Since recording the episode, we've come across this review by Lona Manning which mentions several points (and more) that we talked about but had to cut due to time.Robert Rodi, Bitch In a Bonnet: Reclaiming Jane Austen From the Stiffs, the Snobs, the Simps and the Saps (2011)Adaptations of the book:
BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes)Modernisations of the book:
Joanna Trollope, Sense &Tue, 02 Mar 2021 - 15 - S02E04 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 16 to 20
In this episode, we read Chapters 16 to 20 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how Marianne indulges her feelings, whether Jane Austen knew what Marianne and Willoughby talked about before he left, the clearer picture we get of Edward in these chapters, and Edward’s invisible servant.
The characters we discuss are Mr and Mrs Palmer. Ellen talks about sensibility and romanticism, which leads into a discussion of Marianne and Elinor’s different views of feelings and behaviour. Harriet talks about adaptations, including the Bollywood modernisation, Kandukondain Kandukondain, which she has finally watched.
Things we mention:
References:
Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Hannah More, ‘Sensibility’ (1782)Oliver Goldsmith, The Vicar of Wakefield (1766)Laurence Sterne, The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman (1759) and A Sentimental Journey (1768)The poetry of George Crabbe (1754-1832)The poetry of William Blake (1757-1827) Samuel Richardson, Pamela(1740) and Clarissa, or, the History of a Young Lady (1748) The works of Sir Walter Scott (1771-1832) The poetry of William Wordsworth (1770-1850), including ‘My Heart leaps up’ and ‘Daffodils’ The poetry of Samuel Taylor Coleridge (1772-1834), including ‘Kubla Khan’ and ‘The Rime of the Ancient Mariner’ The poetry of William Blake (1757-1827) The poetry of William Cowper (1731-1800)Artworks:
The works of William Turner (1775-1851)Théodore Géricault, The Raft of the Medusa (1818/1819)Eugène Delacroix, Liberty Leading the People (1830)Adaptations of the book:
BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes)Modernisations of the book:
Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiJoanna TroMon, 08 Feb 2021 - 14 - S02E03 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 12 to 15
In this episode, we read Chapters 12 to 15 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how Margaret's contribution to the plot, how Elinor and Marianne's debate on sense vs sensibility moves from the theoretical to the practical, the linking of propriety with morality, how the mystery subplot is quite unusual in Jane Austen, and the nasty tone of some of Willoughby's jokes about Colonel Brandon.
We discuss the character of Colonel Brandon, then Harriet’s partner Michael talks about the military, with a focus on service in the East Indies. Harriet talks about how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters, and the presentation of Colonel Brandon.
Things we mention:
References:
Jane Nardin, Those Elegant Decorums: The concept of propriety in Jane Austen’s novels (1973)Samuel Richardson, Pamela(1740)Samuel Richardson, Clarissa, or, the History of a Young Lady (1748)Horace Walpole, The Castle of Otranto (1764)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950) Marvin Mudrick, Jane Austen: Irony as Defense and Discovery (1974)Adaptations of the book:
BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes)Modernisations of the book:
MGM, Material Girls (2006) – starring Hilary Duff and Haylie DuffJoanna Trollope, Sense & Sensibility (The Austen Project #1) (2013)YouTube, Elinor and Marianne Take Barton (2014) – starring Abi Davies and Bonita TriggVariations on the book:
Amanda Grange, Colonel Brandon’s Diary (2008)Creative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio. Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang AmadMon, 25 Jan 2021 - 13 - S02E02 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 6 to 11
In this episode, we read Chapters 6 to 11 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how Barton Cottage and its location are described in some detail, consider how the bedrooms are shared out, the closeness between the two sisters in spite of their differences, the theme of sense vs sensibility, and the way Willoughby and Marianne criticise Colonel Brandon.
We discuss the character of Mrs Jennings, then Ellen talks about how members of the gentry spent their time, and Harriet talks about how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters (including a discussion about how the Dashwoods have adapted to having less money). Harriet also gives an overview of the other Jane Austen podcasts that are out there.
Things we mention:
References:
Edward Copeland [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Sense and Sensibility (2006)The epigrams of Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)Thorstein Veblen, The Theory of the Leisure Class: An Economic Study of Institutions (1899)Karl Marx (1818-1883)Max Weber (1864-1920)Sue Birtwistle and Susie Conklin, The Making of Pride and Prejudice (1995)Emma Thompson, The Sense and Sensibility Screenplay and Diaries: Bringing Jane Austen’s Novel to Film (1995)Adaptations of the book:
BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes)Modernisations of the book:
Joanna Trollope, Sense & Sensibility (The Austen Project #1) (2013)YouTube, Elinor and Marianne Take Barton (2014) – starring Abi Davies and Bonita TriggOther Jane Austen podcasts:
First Impressions: Why all the Austen haters are wrongBonnets at DawnThe Daily Knightley: A Jane Austen journeyThe Austen ArchivesManners and MadnessReclaiming JaneCreative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio. Extract fromMon, 11 Jan 2021 - 12 - S02E01 Sense and Sensibility, Chapters 1 to 5
In this episode, we read the first five chapters of Sense and Sensibility. We give a brief publishing history, and talk about the themes of sense and sensibility, the lack of dialogue in the first chapter, how much money the Dashwoods have, the emphasis on caring about the arts, how very young the girls are, and the lack of presentation of Edward.
We discuss the characters of John and Fanny Dashwood, then Ellen talks about wills and marriage settlements, and Harriet gives an overview of the popular culture adaptations, modernisations, continuations and variations on the book.
Things we mention:
References:
Claire Tomalin, Jane Austen: A Life (1997)Edward Copeland [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Sense and Sensibility (2006)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Adaptations of the book:
BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes)Modernisations of the book:
Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiMGM, Material Girls (2006) – starring Hilary Duff and Haylie DuffMWM Studios, From Prada to Nada (2011) – starring Camilla Belle and Alexa PenaVegaSilver Peak Productions, Scents and Sensibility (2011) – starring Ashley Williams and Marla SokoloffJoanna Trollope, Sense & Sensibility (The Austen Project #1) (2013)YouTube, Elinor and Marianne Take Barton (2014) – starring Abi Davies and Bonita TriggVariations on the book:
Amanda Grange, Colonel Brandon’s Diary (2008)Ben H. Winters and Jane Austen, Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters (2009)Creative commons music used:
Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio. Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract fromSun, 27 Dec 2020 - 11 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 58 to 61
In this episode, we read the final chapters of Pride and Prejudice. We talk about the dialogue in the final proposal scene, and more generally about proposals in Jane Austen; Mr Bennet’s response to the news, and also Mrs Bennet’s; what the final chapter, and James Austen-Leigh’s Memoir, tells us about what happens next to the characters; the passing reference to the “restoration of peace”; and how the closing sentence is far less memorable than the opening sentence.
We discuss the character of Mr Bennet, then Ellen talks about some social changes that happened after the book finished , and Harriet looks at how the adaptations finish – with the surprising discovery that a lot of them give the last word to Mr or Mrs Bennet.
Things we mention:
Books:
J.E. Austen Leigh, Caroline Austen, Henry Austen, Anna Austen Lefroy, A Memoir of Jane Austen (1869) Charlotte Brontë, Shirley(1849) George Eliot, Middlemarch (1871) D.A. Bonavia-Hunt, Pemberley Shades: A Lightly Gothic Tale of Mr. and Mrs. Darcy (1949)Emma Tennant, Pemberley: Or Pride and Prejudice Continued (1993) and An Unequal Marriage (1994)P.D. James, Death Comes to Pemberley (2011)Colleen McCulloch, The Independence of Miss Mary Bennet (2008) William Shakespeare, A Midsummer Night’s Dream (1595)Movies and television:
MGM, Pride and Prejudice (1940) – starring Greer Garson and Laurence Olivier BBC, Pride and Prejudice (1980) – starring Elizabeth Garvie and David RintoulBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) – starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth Bestboy Pictures, Pride and Prejudice: A Latter Day Comedy (2003) – starring Kam Heskin and Orlando Seale Pathé Pictures International, Bride and Prejudice (2004) – starring Aishwarya Rai and Martin HendersonFocus Features, Pride & Prejudice (2005) – starring Keira Knightley and Matthew MacfadyenYouTube, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) – starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhCreative commons music used:
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Wed, 17 Jun 2020 - 10 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 53 to 57
In this episode, we talk about how Jane Austen keeps up the suspense so close to the end of the book, the fact that Kitty has forgotten Mr Darcy, Elizabeth’s embarrassment at her mother, Bingley and Mr Bennet shooting together, the physical descriptions of Longbourne, the question of how Lady Catherine got her news and the meeting between Lady Catherine and Elizabeth.
We discuss the character of Jane, then Ellen talks about what makes someone a gentleman, or gentlemanlike, and Harriet looks at how the adaptations deal with events such as Lady Catherine’s visit.
Things we mention:
Books:
Claire Tomalin, Jane Austen: A Life (1997) Tom Stoppart, Arcadia (1993) Oscar Wilde, The Importance of Being Earnest (1895) Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950) Anthony Trollope, The Prime Minister (1876)Websites:
YouTube, John Mullan – Jane Austen’s writing style and voice (2017)Ellen Moody, A calendar for Pride and Prejudice (2003)Movies and television:
MGM, Pride and Prejudice (1940) – starring Greer Garson and Laurence Olivier BBC, Pride and Prejudice (1980) – starring Elizabeth Garvie and David RintoulBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) – starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin FirthFocus Features, Pride & Prejudice (2005) – starring Keira Knightley and Matthew MacfadyenYouTube, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) – starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhCreative commons music used:
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen. Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Mon, 01 Jun 2020 - 9 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 47 to 52
In this episode, we talk about the steps taken to find Lydia and Wickham, how much Darcy paid to get them married, the moral and social approach towards what Lydia has done, why Mrs Bennet thinks there will be a duel, the letter from Mr Collins, and Elizabeth’s changing feelings towards Darcy.
We discuss the character of George Wickham. Ellen talks about marriage settlements and marriage laws, and Harriet looks at how some modernisations of the book adapt the Lydia plot.
We also revisit the subject of enclosures, in response to some feedback, and talk about social inequality and how it’s not really addressed in Jane Austen’s work.
Things we mention:
Books:
W.C. Sellar and R.J. Yeatman, 1066 and All That: A Memorable History of England (1930)Flora Thompson, Lark Rise to Candleford (1939)The works of Charles Dickens (1812 – 1870)Curtis Sittenfeld, Eligible (2016) Claire LaZebnik, Epic Fail (2011) Also two books Eszter included in her comment to us, but which we didn’t include in the recording:Guy Shrubsole, Who Owns England? (2019)Brett Christophers, The New Enclosure: The Appropriation of Public Land in Neoliberal Britain (2018)Movies and television:
BBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) – starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin FirthBestboy Pictures, Pride and Prejudice: A Latter Day Comedy (2003) – starring Kam Heskin and Orlando Seale Pathé Pictures International, Bride and Prejudice (2004) – starring Aishwarya Rai and Martin Henderson YouTube, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) – starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhCreative commons music used
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP. Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Sat, 16 May 2020 - 8 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 42 to 46
In this episode, we talk about the way Darcy is reintroduced into the narrative, Jane Austen’s thoughts on architecture and landscaping, the possible connection between Pemberley and Chatsworth and how Georgiana Darcy is presented in a very different manner from Anne de Burgh.
We discuss Elizabeth Bennet, perhaps Jane Austen’s most popular heroine. Ellen talks about the landed gentry, and Harriet looks at how the film and television adaptations treat the visit to Pemberley – including the scene that is probably the best known in all the adaptations.
Things we mention:
Books:
Donald J. Greene, ‘The Original of Pemberley’ (1968), later collected in The Selected Essays of Donald Green (2004)John Mullan, What Matters in Jane Austen?: Twenty Crucial Puzzles Solved (2012)George Eliot, Middlemarch (1871)Popular culture:
MGM, Pride and Prejudice (1940) – starring Greer Garson and Laurence OlivierBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1980) – starring Elizabeth Garvie and David RintoulBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) – starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin FirthFocus Features, Pride & Prejudice (2005) – starring Keira Knightley and Matthew MacfadyenBBC, Death Comes to Pemberley (2011) – starring Anna Maxwell Martin and Matthew RhysYouTube, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) – starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhCreative commons music used
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen. Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP. Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Tue, 28 Apr 2020 - 7 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 35 to 41
In this episode, we talk about Darcy’s letter and Elizabeth’s reaction to it, consider what Wickham might have done in his youth, revisit the Collins marriage, discuss Mr Bennet’s abrogation of parental responsibility and look at how Elizabeth is now seeing her family through new eyes. We then look at the character of Lydia.
For this episode, we are joined by Michael, who gives us some background information about the militia and the regular army in Jane Austen’s time. Harriet looks at how the film and television adaptations deal with dramatising the letter, and the presentation of Lydia, and Michael adds a couple of points about the military uniforms.
Things we mention:
Books:
Claire Tomalin, Jane Austen: A Life (1997) John Burrows, Computation into Criticism: Study of Jane Austen’s Novels and an Experiment in Method (1987) Amanda Grange, Mr Darcy’s Diary (2005)Illustrations:
William Hogarth, A Rake’s Progress – III The OrgyMovies and television:
MGM, Pride and Prejudice (1940) – starring Greer Garson and Laurence Olivier BBC, Pride and Prejudice (1980) – starring Elizabeth Garvie and David RintoulBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) – starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin FirthFocus Features, Pride & Prejudice (2005) – starring Keira Knightley and Matthew MacfadyenPathé Pictures International, Bride and Prejudice (2004) – starring Aishwarya Rai and Martin HendersonYouTube, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) – starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhCreative commons music used:
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen. Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Tue, 14 Apr 2020 - 6 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 27 to 34
In this episode, we talk about Elizabeth’s feelings towards Wickham and Colonel Fitzwilliam, the married life of the Collinses, why we find Lady Catherine de Burgh more funny than Mr Collins, and what we know about Anne de Burgh.
We discuss Mr Darcy in some detail, and then Ellen talks about the the presentation of livings to country rectors. Harriet looks at how the film and television adaptations present Mr Darcy, and also which is her favourite screen version of Lady Catherine de Burgh.
Things we mention:
Books:
The character of Uriah Heep in Charles Dickens, David Copperfield (1850) Amanda Grange, Mr Darcy’s Diary (2005) Phyllis Ferguson Bottomer, So Odd a Mixture: Along the Autistic Spectrum in ‘Pride and Prejudice’ (2007) Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950) Robert Rodi, Bitch In a Bonnet: Reclaiming Jane Austen From the Stiffs, the Snobs, the Simps and the Saps, Volume 1 (2011)The character of Heathcliff in Emily Brontë, Wuthering Heights (1847) The character of Rochester in Charlotte Brontë, Jane Eyre (1847) Jilly Cooper, Prudence (1978)Anthony Trollope, Barchester Towers (1857)The works of Charlotte M. YongeLaurence Olivier, On Acting (1986) The works of Georgette Heyer Sue Birtwistle, Sue Conklin, Susie Conklin, The Making of Pride and Prejudice (1995)Movies and television:
MGM, Pride and Prejudice (1940) – starring Greer Garson and Laurence Olivier The Samuel Goldwyn Company, Wuthering Heights (1940) – starring Merle Oberon and Laurence Olivier BBC, Pride and Prejudice (1980) – starring Elizabeth Garvie and David RintoulBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) – starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin FirthFocus Features, Pride & Prejudice (2005) – starring Keira Knightley and Matthew MacfadyenPathé Pictures International, Bride and Prejudice (2004) – starring Aishwarya Rai and Martin HendersonYouTube, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) – starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhCreative commons music used:
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić,<Tue, 31 Mar 2020 - 5 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 19 to 26
In this episode, we talk about the two marriage proposals by Mr Collins, the precise timetabling of the events, and the matter of obedience to one’s parents.
We discuss Charlotte Lucas in some detail, and then Ellen talks about the ‘marriage market’. Harriet looks at where the two mini-series versions of Pride and Prejudice have their episode breaks in this section, the fact that in some versions Mr Bennet can see through Wickham, how Charlotte is presented in the 2005 movie, and her favourite song in Bride and Prejudice.
Things we mention:
Books:
The works of Charlotte M. YongeLawrence Stone, The Family, Sex and Marriage in England, 1500-1800 (1977)Edward ShorterLaurence Sterne, A Sentimental Journey (1768)Henry MacKenzie, The Man of Feeling (1771)The works of Jean-Jacques RousseauThe US Declaration of IndependenceJoseph Addison and Richard Steele, The Spectator (1711-1712)Popular culture:
BBC, Pride and Prejudice (1980) – starring Elizabeth Garvie and David RintoulBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) – starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin FirthFocus Features, Pride & Prejudice (2005) – starring Keira Knightley and Matthew MacfadyenPathé Pictures International, Bride and Prejudice (2004) – starring Aishwarya Rai and Martin Henderson ‘No life without wife’Creative commons music used
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen. Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP. Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Mon, 16 Mar 2020 - 4 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 13 to 18
In this episode, we talk about the arrivals of Mr Collins and Mr Wickham, and the Netherfield Ball: we consider how Mr Bennet didn’t give the family any warning about Mr Collins’s arrival, the number of letters in the book, the amount of foreshadowing we’ve seen, how Wickham was able to fool Elizabeth, and Elizabeth’s and Darcy’s conversation while dancing.
We discuss Mr Collins in some detail, and then Ellen talks about entails. Harriet looks at how Mr Colllins and Mr Wickham have been presented in the various film and television versions of Pride and Prejudice, and also how they deal with the Netherfield Ball.
Things we mention:
Books:
Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Illustrations:
Illustrationof Mr Collins by Philip Gough in a 1951 edition of Pride and Prejudice.Popular culture:
MGM, Pride and Prejudice (1940) – starring Greer Garson and Laurence OlivierBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1980) – starring Elizabeth Garvie and David RintoulBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) – starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin FirthFocus Features, Pride & Prejudice (2005) – starring Keira Knightley and Matthew MacfadyenPathé Pictures International, Bride and Prejudice (2004) – starring Aishwarya Rai and Martin Henderson YouTube, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) – starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhCreative commons music used
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen. Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP. Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.Mon, 02 Mar 2020 - 3 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 7 to 12
In this episode, we talk about Jane and Elizabeth's visit to Netherfield: we consider why Jane was invited, Darcy's feelings about Elizabeth, the types of conversations everyone has and what Darcy reads.
We discuss Mr Bingley in some detail, including how he and Darcy might have met, and then Ellen talks about accomplishments. Harriet looks at how Mr Bingley has been presented in the various film and television versions of Pride and Prejudice.
Things we mention
Sue Birtwistle, Sue Conklin, Susie Conklin, The Making of Pride and Prejudice (1995) Charles Dickens, Bleak House (1853)Hester Chapone, Letters on the Improvement of the Mind, Addressed to a LadyHannah More, Coelebs in Search of a Wife Georgette Heyer, Cotillion (1953)
Books:Popular culture:
MGM, Pride and Prejudice (1940) - starring Greer Garson and Laurence OlivierBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1980) - starring Elizabeth Garvie and David RintoulBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) - starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin FirthFocus Features, Pride & Prejudice (2005) - starring Keira Knightley and Matthew MacfadyenPathé Pictures International, Bride and Prejudice (2004) - starring Aishwarya Rai and Martin Henderson YouTube, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) - starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent Gordh Curtis Sittenfeld, Eligible (2016)Creative commons music used
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen. Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP.Mon, 17 Feb 2020 - 2 - Pride and Prejudice, Chapters 1 to 6
In this episode, we look at chapters 1 to 6 of Pride and Prejudice. We talk about how the book sets up the relationship between love and marriage, the way the characters are introduced so gradually, what we see in Darcy and the fact that we quickly learn how much money everyone has.
John Mullan, What Matters in Jane Austen?: Twenty Crucial Puzzles Solved(2012)John Burrows, Computation into Criticism: Study of Jane Austen's Novels and an Experiment in Method(1987)Adaptations of the bookMGM, Pride and Prejudice (1940) - starring Greer Garson and Laurence OlivierBBC, Pride and Prejudice(1980) - starring Elizabeth Garvie and David RintoulBBC, Pride and Prejudice (1995) - starring Jennifer Ehle and Colin FirthFocus Features, Pride & Prejudice (2005) - starring Keira Knightley and Matthew MacfadyenModernisations of the bookPathé Pictures International, Bride and Prejudice(2004) - starring Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and Martin HendersonYouTube, Lizzie Bennet Diaries(2012) - starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhBestboy Pictures, Pride and Prejudice: A Latter Day Comedy(2003) - starring Kam Heskin and Orlando SealeHelen Fielding, Bridget Jones's Diary(1996) - also a 2001 filmCurtis Sittenfeld, Eligible (2016)Continuations of the bookP.D. James, Death Comes to Pemberley (2011) - also a 2013 BBC mini-seriesVariations on the bookSeth Graham-Smith and Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies (2009) - also a 2016 film
We discuss Mrs Bennet in some detail, and then Ellen talks about class in the early nineteenth century, and the type of neighbourhood Pride and Prejudice is set in. Harriet gives an overview of the pop culture versions of the book (dividing them into adaptations, modernisations, continuations and variations) and then looks at how some of them deal with the opening sentence, the period setting and the character of Mrs Bennet.
Things we mention:Creative commons music used:
Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract fromSun, 02 Feb 2020 - 1 - IntroductionSun, 02 Feb 2020
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