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Get the inside story of how AI is being created and uncover the extraordinary ways artificial intelligence (AI) is transforming our world. In the highly-praised, award-nominated "DeepMind: The Podcast", mathematician and broadcaster Hannah Fry goes behind the scenes of world-leading research lab DeepMind to find out how AI can benefit our lives and the society we live in. The first season explores the link between neuroscience and AI, the importance of games, and building safe AI. Now in its second season, Hannah uncovers how AI is accelerating science in critical areas, takes an in-depth look at building artificial general intelligence (AGI), and so much more.
- 19 - The promise of AI with Demis Hassabis
Hannah wraps up the series by meeting DeepMind co-founder and CEO, Demis Hassabis. In an extended interview, Demis describes why he believes AGI is possible, how we can get there, and the problems he hopes it will solve. Along the way, he highlights the important role of consciousness and why he’s so optimistic that AI can help solve many of the world’s major challenges. As a final note, Demis shares the story of a personal meeting with Stephen Hawking to discuss the future of AI and discloses Hawking’s parting message.
Tue, 15 Mar 2022 - 30min - 18 - Fair for all
AI needs to benefit everyone, not just those who build it. But fulfilling this promise requires careful thought before new technologies are built and released into the world. In this episode, Hannah delves into some of the most pressing and difficult ethical and social questions surrounding AI today. She explores complex issues like racial and gender bias and the misuse of AI technologies, and hears why diversity and representation is vital for building technology that works for all.
Tue, 1 Mar 2022 - 33min - 17 - Me, myself and AI
AI doesn’t just exist in the lab, it’s already solving a range of problems in the real world. In this episode, Hannah encounters a realistic recreation of her voice by WaveNet, the voice synthesising system that powers the Google Assistant and helps people with speech difficulties and illnesses regain their voices. Hannah also discovers how ‘deepfake’ technology can be used to improve weather forecasting and how DeepMind researchers are collaborating with Liverpool Football Club, aiming to take sports to the next level.
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 - 35min - 16 - AI for science
Step inside DeepMind's laboratories and you'll find researchers studying DNA to understand the mysteries of life, seeking new ways to use nuclear energy, or putting AI to the test in mind-bending areas of maths. In this episode, Hannah meets Pushmeet Kholi, the head of science at DeepMind, to understand how AI is accelerating scientific progress. Listeners also join Hannah on a [virtual] safari in the Serengeti in East Africa to find out how researchers are using AI to conserve wildlife in one of the world’s most spectacular ecosystems.
Wed, 16 Feb 2022 - 33min - 15 - The road to AGI
Hannah meets DeepMind co-founder and chief scientist Shane Legg, the man who coined the phrase ‘artificial general intelligence’, and explores how it might be built. Why does Shane think AGI is possible? When will it be realised? And what could it look like? Hannah also explores a simple theory of using trial and error to reach AGI and takes a deep dive into MuZero, an AI system which mastered complex board games from chess to Go, and is now generalising to solve a range of important tasks in the real world.
Tue, 15 Feb 2022 - 32min - 14 - Let's get physical
Do you need a body to have intelligence? And can one exist without the other? Hannah takes listeners behind the scenes of DeepMind's robotics lab in London where she meets robots that are trying to independently learn new skills, and explores why physical intelligence is a necessary part of intelligence. Along the way, she finds out how researchers trained their robots at home during lockdown, uncovers why so many robotics demonstrations are faking it, and what it takes to train a robotic football team.
Tue, 8 Feb 2022 - 33min - 13 - Better together
Cooperation is at the heart of our society. Inventing the railway, giving birth to the Renaissance, and creating the Covid-19 vaccine all required people to combine efforts. But cooperation is so much more. It governs our education systems, healthcare, and food production. In this episode, Hannah meets the researchers working on cooperative AI, and hears about their work and influences from the famous American psychologist - and pigeon trainer - BF Skinner to the strategic board game Diplomacy. CTA: For questions or feedback on the series, message us on Twitter @DeepMind or email podcast@deepmind.com. Interviewees: DeepMind’s Thore Graepel, Kevin Mckee, Doina Precup & Laura Weidinger Credits Presenter: Hannah Fry Series Producer: Dan Hardoon Production support: Jill Achineku Sounds design: Emma Barnaby Music composition: Eleni Shaw Sound Engineer: Nigel Appleton Editor: David Prest Commissioned by DeepMind Thank you to everyone who made this season possible! Further reading: Machines must learn to find common ground, Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01170-0 Introduction to Reinforcement Learning, DeepMind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pWv7GOvuf0 B.F. Skinner, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner The Tragedy of the Commons, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons Staving Off The Ultimate Tragedy Of The Commons, Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgebradt/2021/11/02/staving-off-the-ultimate-tragedy-of-the-commons-by-making-better-complex-decisions-cooperatively-in-glasgow/ Understanding Agent Cooperation, DeepMind: https://deepmind.com/blog/article/understanding-agent-cooperation The emergence of complex cooperative agents, DeepMind: https://deepmind.com/blog/article/capture-the-flag-science YouTube addition: Find Seasons 1 & 2 on YouTube: http://dpmd.ai/3geDPmL Or search “DeepMind: The Podcast” and subscribe on your favourite podcast app: Apple Podcasts: http://dpmd.ai/2Rzlmcu Google Podcasts: http://dpmd.ai/3geDjp5 Spotify: http://dpmd.ai/3w29cb4 Pocket Casts: https://pca.st/30m1
Tue, 1 Feb 2022 - 34min - 12 - Speaking of intelligence
Hannah explores the potential of language models, the questions they raise, and if teaching a computer about language is enough to create artificial general intelligence (AGI). Beyond helping us communicate ideas, language plays a crucial role in memory, cooperation, and thinking – which is why AI researchers have long aimed to communicate with computers using natural language. Recently, there has been extraordinary progress using large-language models (LLM), which learn how to speak by processing huge amounts of data from the internet. The results can be very convincing, but pose significant ethical challenges.
Tue, 25 Jan 2022 - 38min - 11 - A breakthrough unfolds
In December 2019, DeepMind’s AI system, AlphaFold, solved a 50-year-old grand challenge in biology, known as the protein-folding problem. A headline in the journal Nature read, “It will change everything” and the President of the UK's Royal Society called it a “stunning advance [that arrived] decades before many in the field would have predicted”. In this episode, Hannah uncovers the inside story of AlphaFold from the people who made it happen and finds out how it could help transform the future of healthcare and medicine.
Tue, 25 Jan 2022 - 39min - 10 - DeepMind: The Podcast with Hannah Fry – Season 2 coming soon!
The chart-topping podcast which uncovers the extraordinary ways artificial intelligence (AI) is transforming our world is back for a second season. Join mathematician and broadcaster Professor Hannah Fry behind the scenes of world-leading AI research lab DeepMind to get the inside story of how AI is being created – and how it can benefit our lives and the society we live in.
Mon, 10 Jan 2022 - 03min - 9 - Demis Hassabis: The interview
In this special extended episode, Hannah Fry meets Demis Hassabis, the CEO and co-founder of DeepMind. She digs into his former life as a chess player, games designer and neuroscientist and explores how his love of chess helped him to get start-up funding, what drives him and his vision, and why AI keeps him up at night. If you have a question or feedback on the series, message us on Twitter (@DeepMindAI using the hashtag #DMpodcast) or emailing us at podcast@deepmind.com.
Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 36min - 8 - Towards the future
AI researchers around the world are trying to create a general purpose learning system that can learn to solve a broad range of problems without being taught how. Koray Kavukcuoglu, DeepMind’s Director of Research, describes the journey to get there, and takes Hannah on a whistle-stop tour of DeepMind’s HQ and its research. If you have a question or feedback on the series, message us on Twitter (@DeepMindAI using the hashtag #DMpodcast) or emailing us at podcast@deepmind.com.
Tue, 10 Sep 2019 - 26min - 7 - AI for everyone
While there is a lot of excitement about AI research, there are also concerns about the way it might be implemented, used and abused. In this episode Hannah investigates the more human side of the technology, some ethical issues around how it is developed and used, and the efforts to create a future of AI that works for everyone.
Tue, 3 Sep 2019 - 29min - 6 - Out of the lab
The ambition of much of AI research is to create systems that can help to solve problems in the real world. In this episode, Hannah meets the people building systems that could be used to save the sight of thousands, help us solve one of the most fundamental problems in biology and reduce energy consumption in an effort to combat climate change. But whilst there is great potential, there are also important obstacles that will need to be tackled for AI to be used effectively, safely and fairly.
Tue, 27 Aug 2019 - 31min - 5 - AI, Robot
Forget what sci-fi has told you about superintelligent robots that are uncannily human-like; the reality is more prosaic. Inside DeepMind’s robotics laboratory, Hannah explores what researchers call ‘embodied AI’: robot arms that are learning tasks like picking up plastic bricks, which humans find comparatively easy. Discover the cutting-edge challenges of bringing AI and robotics together, and learning from scratch how to perform tasks. She also explores some of the key questions about using AI safely in the real world.
Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 32min - 4 - Go to Zero
In March 2016, more than 200 million people watched AlphaGo become first computer program to defeat a professional human player at the game of Go, a milestone in AI research that was considered to be a decade ahead of its time. Since then the team has continued to develop the system and recently unveiled AlphaZero: a program that has taught itself how to play chess, Go, and shogi. Hannah explores the inside story of both with Lead Researcher David Silver and finds out why games are a useful proving ground for AI researchers. She also meets Chess Grandmaster Matthew Sadler and women’s international master Natasha Regan, who have written a book on AlphaZero and its unique gameplay.
Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 25min - 3 - AI and Neuroscience: The virtuous circle
What can the human brain teach us about AI? And what can AI teach us about our own intelligence? These questions underpin a lot of AI research. In this first episode, Hannah meets the DeepMind Neuroscience team to explore these connections and discovers how our brains are like birds’ wings, what training a dog and an AI agent have in common, and why the simplest things for people to do are, paradoxically, often the hardest for machines.
Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 34min - 2 - Life is like a game
Video games have become a favourite tool for AI researchers to test the abilities of their systems. In this episode, Hannah sits down to play StarCraft II - a challenging video game that requires players to control the onscreen action with as many as 800 clicks a minute. She is guided by Oriol Vinyals, an ex-professional StarCraft player and research scientist at DeepMind, who explains how the program AlphaStar learnt to play the game and beat a top professional player. Elsewhere, she explores systems that are learning to cooperate in a digital version of the playground favourite ‘Capture the Flag’.
Tue, 20 Aug 2019 - 26min - 1 - DeepMind: The Podcast - trailer
Over the past 12 months, mathematician and broadcaster Hannah Fry has explored DeepMind's headquarters in London to get an inside look at artificial intelligence (AI) research and where it is going. The result - DeepMind: the Podcast - offers diverse perspectives from scientists, researchers and engineers. Along the way, she explores what they are working on, how they’re approaching the science of AI and some of the tricky decisions the whole field is wrestling with at the moment. Programmes delve into the link between neuroscience and AI, why scientists use video games in their research, building safe AI, how AI can be used to solve scientific problems and more.
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