The Economy of Everything

Weight loss drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy are already transforming lives – but could their impact on the economy be even bigger?

Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker look at predictions GLP-1 drugs could boost the US economy by hundreds of billions of dollars, slash healthcare costs and fundamentally change the food industry.

And could New Zealand be one of the big winners as demand shifts towards protein?

Plus, they break down the latest OCR decision, why different parts of New Zealand arguably need very different interest rates, and what to expect from the next GDP figures.

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New Zealand’s economic data is finally showing some signs of life – but for many businesses and households, it certainly doesn’t feel like a recovery.

Nearly 3,000 hospitality businesses ceased trading in the past year, liquidations remain elevated, and unemployment is likely to take longer to turn around. At the same time, confidence is improving and economists are increasingly optimistic about what comes next.

Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker look at the conflicting signals in the economy, why the recovery may take time to reach ordinary New Zealanders, and what NZ’s march towards $1 trillion in total debt really tells us.

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The Financial Times says Auckland has solved its housing crisis — but has it really?

Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker look at why housing affordability has improved, the economic pain sitting behind falling Auckland house prices, why older workers may be particularly vulnerable in the current jobs market, and what mortgage holders can expect from next week’s Reserve Bank decision.

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New Zealand’s housing market remains stubbornly flat, our birth rate has fallen to historic lows, and Auckland is once again talking about another Harbour Crossing.

Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker ask whether the great Kiwi property boom is truly over, what slower population growth means for the economy, and why New Zealand can spend decades talking about major infrastructure without actually building it.

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CMC Markets managing director Chris Smith joins Liam Dann to talk about the investing bug that started when he was 16, why New Zealand has historically favoured property over shares, and the mistakes that taught him the most.

He also discusses market crashes, AI investment, KiwiSaver, our appetite for risk and why he believes simply earning a salary may not be enough to build the wealth needed for retirement.

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New Zealand businesses have spent much of the past year waiting for the recovery, but what if the economy they’re dealing with now is the new normal?

Join Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker as they ponder whether Christopher Luxon had actually had a point when he shared his controversial thoughts with the Rotorua business community. They also unpack the latest unemployment figures, and look ahead to reporting season.

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Could more babies be the answer to New Zealand’s economic problems?

Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker unpack Winston Peters’ proposed $45,000 Kiwi Kids Grant, ask whether cash can really lift the birth rate, and look at why migration may still be the more realistic path to growth. Plus, why Christchurch and the regions are outperforming Auckland—and whether rising building consents offer a glimmer of hope.

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New Zealand’s unemployment rate is already at an uncomfortable level, and may be heading higher again.Young people and jobseekers in Auckland, Wellington and the Bay of Plenty are facing an especially tough market, leaving many wondering why the recovery is taking.

Tamsyn Parker and Liam Dann discuss the latest unemployment figures and whether AI is squeezing the juice out of entry-level roles.

They also chat about how global conflict and rising oil prices could continue to impact inflation and mortgage, and they ask the question: could Australia’s approach to taxing beer offer a lifeline for NZ’s struggling pubs, bars and city centres?

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First it came for the groceries, the mortgage and the power bill. Now the economy is coming for our fun.

From $12 glasses of wine and $27 movie tickets to streaming subscriptions that keep creeping up, the cost of enjoying yourself is becoming harder to justify.

Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker unpack “funflation”, the latest inflation data, and whether bird flu could make chicken and eggs the next household staples to surge in price.

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Could compulsory KiwiSaver help make New Zealanders wealthier and build a stronger economy? In this episode of Money Talks, Liam Dann speaks with policy advocate and economics student Leonard Hong about why he believes New Zealand needs a more ambitious approach to saving, investment and long-term wealth creation.

Leonard reflects on his Korean-New Zealand upbringing, his fascination with economics and politics, and the lessons New Zealand could take from Australia and Singapore. He also discusses Gen Z’s financial anxiety, the future of work in an AI-driven economy, and why compulsory retirement saving could give ordinary Kiwis a far more secure future.

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The Official Cash Rate has risen for the first time in three years — but does that mean mortgage rates are about to climb too?

Tamsyn Parker is joined by NZ Herald Wellington Business Editor Jenée Tibshraeny to unpack the OCR hike, the risk of inflation becoming embedded and why fixed-term borrowers may not feel the impact immediately.

They also examine an OECD report suggesting New Zealand’s real wages are near the bottom of the developed world, why workers are struggling to negotiate pay rises, and whether restrictive employment contracts are holding back productivity.

Plus, thousands of properties could carry a hidden natural-hazard warning that may affect insurance claims, renovations and even the ability to secure a mortgage.

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There are signs of optimism in the New Zealand economy, but are we ready to believe in the recovery?

Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker look at the latest economic signals, from falling petrol prices and a stronger sharemarket to the lingering pressure on households. They also discuss new research showing young New Zealanders are more worried about the cost of living than their global peers, the impact of AI on the future of work, and why the Indian Prime Minister’s visit could mark a major trade moment.

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Could the AI frenzy end in a painful market correction? Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker discuss the warnings and what it could mean for KiwiSaver. Plus, should the Reserve Bank should leave interest rates alone? And what does the falling New Zealand dollar mean for you?

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National's proposal to make KiwiSaver compulsory could be one of the biggest changes to New Zealand's retirement system in decades. Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker break down what it would mean for workers, businesses and future retirees. Is compulsory saving the key to closing the wealth gap with Australia?

They also examine new data on the cost of living, wage growth and why so many New Zealanders feel poorer than they did a few years ago. Plus, are younger generations giving up on the traditional Kiwi dream, and what does that mean for our future economy?

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The US-Iran peace deal has brought down oil prices and eased some inflation fears. Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker discuss what that means for Kiwi wallets, the outlook for interest rates, and whether New Zealand's long-awaited recovery might finally be gaining momentum.

Plus, what can we learn from Switzerland's debate over immigration and population growth?

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From collecting bottles for pocket money in small town South Canterbury to advising governments at the IMF, Westpac chief economist Kelly Eckhold has spent a lifetime thinking about how economies work. He joins Money Talks to discuss inflation, productivity, inequality and why New Zealand's biggest challenge may not be how we divide the pie, but how we grow it.

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House prices are still falling in real terms, construction is slowing and businesses are losing faith in a quick recovery. Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker discuss what could be New Zealand's biggest property reset in decades, 

They also explain why Auckland's economy is feeling the pain and consider whether upcoming GDP figures will show the recovery has stalled once again (probably).

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Should the retirement age rise to 67? Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker discuss the growing cost of NZ Super and whether younger generations are being asked to foot the bill. They also look at the surprising figures opposed to the potential rise in retirement age.

Plus, a new levy on banks and insurers, the Heartland-TSB merger and what a split OCR vote could mean for mortgage holders.

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Thursday's Budget is being illed as 'grown-up' with no lolly scrambles under a cloud of tough choices ahead. But with rising mortgage costs and stubborn inflation, will the Government deliver something people can actually feel in their wallets? Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker unpack what’s been revealed ahead of Budget day and what might still be hiding in the numbers.

Plus, are mortgage holders already trapped by rising rates, and is AI becoming a convenient excuse for job cuts?

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Oil prices surged, inflation risks are rising again, and all eyes are now on the Reserve Bank’s next OCR decision. Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker break down why petrol prices haven’t hit worst-case forecasts, what it means for the wider economy, and whether interest rate hikes are coming sooner than expected.

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It might feel weird telling the young people in your life to pack up and head across the ditch for better prospects, but right now it may actually be the best advice.

Youth unemployment is sitting at worrying levels in New Zealand, the cost of living crisis is dragging on and somehow our mates in Australia seem to have jobs to spare and money to burn.

Join Liam Dann and Tamsyn Parker as they unpack why so many young Kiwis are eyeing Australia, what’s driving the latest brain drain fears and whether New Zealand’s economy is about to get even tougher.

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Welcome to the first episode of The Economy of Everything, with thanks to CMC Markets. To kick things off, our hosts Tamsyn Parker and Liam Dann tackle the cost of living crisis, what's happening with markets as the Middle East war kicks back into gear, and the significance of today's unemployment data release. 

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For the final episode of season eight,  Liam is joined by Money Talks producer Jane Yee to look back at the best bits of the show for 2025. 

A huge thanks to all our guests for sharing their money journeys with us. Thanks also to editor Richard Martin for bringing the show to life. See you in 2026!

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In May, we launched this season of Money Talks with Nigel Latta - clinical psychologist, author, broadcaster, and friend of host Liam Dann. With the sad news of Nigel’s passing, we’re reissuing that conversation to honour his voice and perspective.

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Liam Dann sits down with broadcaster Sam Wallace to explore the financial realities behind the glitz and glamour of fame.

Sam opens up about the pressures of maintaining a public image, the unexpected costs of staying relevant, and the personal sacrifices made along the way.

From hair transplants to high-end home furnishings, the conversation delves into the hidden expenses that come with a career in the spotlight. Join them for an honest discussion about the true price of fame and the lessons learned from navigating the financial challenges of public life.

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What’s really behind rising health insurance premiums? Southern Cross Medical Care Society CEO, Nick Astwick, joins Liam to talk about the challenge of funding care and striking the balance between health and wealth, and why he reckons your health is a more valuable asset than your house. Nick also shares his own money journey, from childhood lessons to career-defining choices, offering his perspective on what it takes to live well.

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Pic Picot has lived his life like it's one big experiment. He's tried a bit of this, had success with a bit of that, lived on a commune, sailed the Pacific and modified a concrete mixer to roast peanuts in. The latter was the humble beginnings of what you'll now know as Pic's Peanut Butter. The self-confessed hippy joins Liam to talk risk-taking, money-making and the future of the beloved Pic's brand after a majority stake was recently sold to an Australian firm. 

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What does it mean to be responsible for one of New Zealand’s biggest banks? Westpac CEO Catherine McGrath joins Liam Dann to discuss the responsibility of holding billions in public trust, how she manages risk, and the human side of leading in high-stakes environments.

From money management lessons to her personal journey in banking, Catherine shares insights on resilience, leadership, and financial literacy for all New Zealanders.

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Broadcaster, author and Taskmaster NZ star Bree Tomasel reckons her whole job can be summed up as “talking shit for a living.”  But behind the laughs is grit, hustle and a surprisingly conservative approach to money. She chats with Liam Dann about farm life, broke uni days, indulgent splurges and whether she'd take a million right now or risk it all for a 50/50 shot at a billion.

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Chef, TV host and farmer Mike Van de Elzen has worked in some of the toughest kitchens in the world, from London’s high-pressure restaurant scene to running his own award-winning eateries in Aotearoa. He joins Liam Dann to talk about growing up on a Henderson poultry farm, funding his first motorbike with chicken manure sales, surviving on scraps in London and why the term “celebrity chef” makes him uncomfortable. Michael also shares how Eat Well for Less has adapted to the cost-of-living crisis, his battle with cancer and the lessons he’s learned about money, work and life after 37 years in hospitality.

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This week, prolific board director Wayne Boyd shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, including pivoting from his planned legal career to helping break up Telecom, and his other high-profile board roles.

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This week, founder and managing partner of property investment company Opes Partners, Andrew Nicol, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. From his family's financial struggles growing up in Christchurch, bothering banks for their reports for a school competition, choosing a career over uni - and how that led to him buying his first home at 19, sparking a career and a business

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This week, Rosa Powers and Margot Flanagan - better known as the Two Raw Sisters - join Liam Dann to share their best and worst money stories, from how their parent's were early motivators in their careers, to the health battles and personal struggles they had to overcome in order to mend their relationship, and how that has led to a successful brand that covers cookbooks, apps, and podcasts. 

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This week, Perpetual Guardian chief executive Patrick Gamble shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, including his family's life changing move to Ireland when he was a toddler, his experiences dabbling in the property market while at university - and failing - and how he ended up as a Special Envoy for Ukraine. 

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This week, the co-founders behind sexual wellness brand Girls Get Off, Viv Conway and Jo Cummins, join Liam to discuss how their different experiences at school and growing up lead to them crossing paths, and eventually starting a business that wants to change how people talk about sex - even if banks, insurers and social media companies aren't quite on board yet. 

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This week, the founder and CEO of KidsCan and Pet Refuge, Dame Julie Chapman, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, from how she originally planned to being a cop to how the need for her charities has increased over the years. 

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This week, Liam is joined by entrepreneur Derek Handley to discuss his varied career in the tech and startup space and how that has changed over the last two decades, and why he is now trying to get young people into their first homes faster with his latest venture, Aera. And he weighs in on the future of AI and our jobs, and his feelings about politics after the public controversy over the Labour Government's attempt to appoint him Chief Technology Officer. 

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This week, CEO of The Icehouse Olivia Blaylock shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann - from her start in the business world, her experience running her own company, what more can be done to help entrepreneurs and business owners in NZ, and how dealing with lockdowns, the GFC and cancer in her family helped her learn what's important in running a business. 

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This week, multi-talented entertainer Chris Parker shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, from his first childhood job starring in a milk ad, to being unable to buy a drink on his first date with his future husband, and how he maintains his increasingly varied workload. 

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This week, the chief executive of 2degrees, Mark Callendar, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, including his unusual path to running a major company, and the current state of the telco industry. 

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This week, Liam is joined by singer-songwriter Georgia Lines, who shares her best and worst money stories - from starting her own businesses as a teenager, to how money has impacted her art. 

Georgia is nominated for four Aotearoa Music Awards, being handed out tonight, and will perform Under the Stars with Friends at the Auckland Live Cabaret Season - tickets and details available here: https://www.aucklandlive.co.nz/show/cabaretfest25-georgia-lines 

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This week, Liam is joined by Mat Croad and Nick Marshall, co-founders of RTD business Pals, to discuss how a previous failure informed their meteoric rise in the drinks world, growing up in Tauranga together, and the different career paths they took before working together. 

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This week, chief executive of the NZ Super Fund, Jo Townsend, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann - from her upbringing in rural Tasmania in the 1970s, to working on the trading floors in Sydney, to getting into the super industry. 

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This week, for the first guest of the new season, Liam is joined by clinical psychologist, author and TV presenter, Nigel Latta, to discuss his career on and off camera, his cancer diagnosis last year, and his new app Parentland.

You can find more details on it and how to download it at https://www.parentland.app/ 

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For the final episode of the year, former Prime Minister Sir Bill English shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Musician and Shihad frontman Jon Toogood shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Former National Party MP and Minister, acting CEO of Westpac, CEO of TVNZ, and now CEO of Fisher Funds, Simon Power, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Economist Oliver Hartwich shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Businesswoman, TV star and informercial icon Suzanne Paul shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

Suzanne returns to Celebrity Treasure Island, airing on TVNZ2 from Monday September 9th.

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Darren Shand, who spent 20 years as manager of the All Blacks before launching his own company, Winning Teams, shares his and best money stories with Liam Dann. 

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EnableMe founder and author of Kill Your Mortgage & Sort Your Retirement, Hannah McQueen, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Chief Executive Officer for Bayleys Auckland, Lloyd Budd, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Foodstuffs chief executive Chris Quin shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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TVNZ and Newstalk ZB host Jack Tame shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Rich-lister, Sunshine Books founder, and author of Teaching the World to Read, Dame Wendy Pye, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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ACT leader, MP for Epsom and Associate Finance Minister - amongst other portfolios - David Seymour shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Ockahm Award-winning author of Lioness, Emily Perkins, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Briscoes Group managing director and majority owner Rod Duke shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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ASB CEO and the highest paid female executive in New Zealand, Vittoria Shortt, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Business leader Rob Campbell shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Labour's finance spokesperson and former tax lawyer, Barbara Edmonds, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Emma Lewisham, co-founder and CEO of her eponymous beauty brand, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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The first female CEO of AA, Nadine Tereora, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Broadcaster and host of RNZ's new '30' podcast, Guyon Espiner, shares his best and worst money stories with his childhood friend, Liam Dann. 

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Former Perpetual Guardian boss turned four day working week pioneer, Andrew Barnes, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Co-founder and development manager for Ockham Residential, Mark Todd, shares hi best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Comedian, Flech, Vaughan and Hayley co-host, and co-host of the Sex.Life podcast, Hayley Sproull, shares her best and worst finance stories with Liam Dann.

Hayley's show, Wild Flutters, is at the International Comedy Festival this month. Click here for tickets for Auckland and Wellington: https://www.comedyfestival.co.nz/find-a-show/wild-flutters/ 

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Flava Breakfast co-host and host of the Up to Speed podcast, Stacey Morrison, shares her best and worst finance stories with Liam Dann.

New episodes of Money Talks return in 2024. 

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Healthcare entrepreneur and philanthropist Ranjna Patel shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Founder of Sudima hotels Sudesh Jhunjhnuwala shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Spark chief executive Jolie Hodson shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Founder and CEO of Mint Asset Management Rebecca Thomas tells Liam Dann that the financial ups and downs of a life in business were clear to her from an early age.

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Comedian, host of Queer Academy, and Celebrity Treasure Island 2023 winner, James Mustapic, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Co-founder and Managing Director of Simplicity KiwiSaver scheme, Sam Stubbs, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Chefs, restaurant owners and hosts of My Kitchen Rules NZ, Manu Feildel and Colin Fassnidge, share their best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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RNZ Afternoons host, The Project co-host and Viva restaurant reviewer, Jesse Mulligan, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Newshub National Correspondent and host of Paddy Gower Has Issues, Patrick Gower, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Chair of Air New Zealand, ASB and Project Zero Dame Therese Walsh shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Sharesies co-founder and co-chief executive Leighton Roberts shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Coast Breakfast and We Need to Talk podcast host Toni Street shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. 

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Comedian and writer Michèle A'Court shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Former investment banker turned city councillor and TOP leader Raf Manji shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Businesswoman and founder of Partners Life Naomi Ballantyne shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Former Finance Minister and co-founder of the ACT Party Sir Roger Douglas shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Former New Zealand Prime Minister Sir John Key shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Bestselling author of Call Me Evie, In the Clearing and The Wrong Woman, JP Pomare, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Broadcaster Corin Dann shares his best and worst money stories with his brother, Liam Dann.

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Financial journalist, columnist and author Mary Holm shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Economist Shamubeel Eaqub shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Journalist and host of Newstalk ZB Drive Heather du Plessis-Allan shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Chief Executive of ANZ New Zealand Antonia Watson shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Grant Robertson share his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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The Hits Breakfast presenters, TV personalities and comedic duo Jono and Ben share their best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Menswear icon Murray Crane shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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NZIER economist Christina Leung shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under Kita Means shares their best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Economist Brad Olsen shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Actress and award-winning comedian Kura Forrester shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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Businesswoman Joan Withers shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.

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