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Mark Ellen and David Hepworth have been talking about and writing about music together and individually for a collective eighty years in magazines like Smash Hits, Mojo and The Word and on radio and TV programmes like "Rock On", "Whistle Test" and VH-1.
Over thirteen years ago, when working on the late magazine The Word, they began producing podcasts. Some listeners have been kind enough to say these have been very special to them. When the magazine folded in 2012 they kept the spirit of those podcasts alive in regular Word In Your Ear evenings in which they spoke to musicians and authors in front of an audience.
Over these years they've produced hundreds of hours of material. As of the Current Unpleasantness of 2020, they've produced yet hundreds of hours more with a little help from guests kind enough to digitally show them around their attics such as Danny Baker, Andy Partridge, Sir Tim Rice and Mark Lewisohn. For the full span of the Word In Your Ear world, visit wiyelondon.com.
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- 669 - The “amniotic throb” of modern pop, the eternal life of the Top Gear theme and the Blue Nile’s lucky break
With Mark Ellen in foreign parts David Hepworth and Alex Gold light cigars, pass the port in the correct direction and discuss…..
…..the fact that there is only one way to play a Beatles song and that is the way the Beatles did it.
…..the chances that Taylor Swift is reaching her imperial phase and nobody is prepared to tell her what she really needs to hear.
….the very good reason that all contemporary pop records do literally sound the same.
…the 50th anniversary of Richard and Linda Thompson’s “I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight”.
….the story of the Allman Brothers’ “Jessica”, a jam that turned into Dickey Betts’ pension.
….how the Blue Nile got a plug which is worth all the bought media in the world.
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Sun, 21 Apr 2024 - 47min - 668 - Hollywood Babylon, the inspired gimmickry of Catch A Fire and the luck of Ron Wood
We lobbed the feathered arrows of enquiry at the rock and roll dartboard this week and these got the highest scores …
… rock stars v the new league of the Super-Rich.
… package tours of the mid-‘60s – eight acts, an interval, a compere plus God Save the Queen.
… ‘Hits, Flops and Other Illusions’ by Edward Zwick and the fantastic tale about arrogance, money-squandering and Julia Roberts at the Halcyon Hotel.
... pop music used to be about persuading people to cut loose; now it’s about getting them to tighten up.
… why you can read Ron Wood’s memoir as either comedy or tragedy.
.. Chris Blackwell’s post-production trickery that sold Bob Marley to a rock audience.
… Master Tape Rescue: the arduous task of panning for gold.
... and why there should be a movie about the making of Shakespeare in Love.
Plus birthday guest Chuck Loncon in Savannah, Georgia – Neil Young v Spotify, Lady Antebellum, the Dixie Chicks and the tangled world of political correctness.
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Mon, 15 Apr 2024 - 58min - 667 - Neil Tennant remembers life “with dyed red Bowie hair and clattering platforms”
Neil’s an old friend from our days back at Smash Hits in the early ‘80s. The first Pet Shop Boys demos were played on the office tape machine, though he was a bit self-conscious about “the one with the rap on it”. He’s always had a journalistic capacity for story-telling, remembering everything in famously entertaining detail, and we had so much material from this reunion we turned it into a two-part podcast. Here’s a taste of what you’ll find in this second half ...
… “every group has to have an angle”.
… pop’s current obsession with identity.
… why Bronski Beat were so significant.
… David Bowie’s scathing one-word reviews of Michael Jackson and Oasis at the Brits.
… “the whole world of pop songs is a giant ever-expanding artwork”.
… meeting Frida from Abba, “a song waiting to happen”.
… the ‘Pits & Perverts’ gay benefit for the miners in 1984.
… London clubs in the early ‘80s - “we had a competition to see who could wear the highest heels”.
… how everyone at Smash Hits thought Michael Jackson’s Thriller was “a damp squib”.
… recording West End Girls.
… first hearing a 12-inch single.
… appearing on Soul Train with Don Cornelius – “like being on a different planet”.
… why Dusty Springfield gave Jerry Wexler a nervous breakdown.
… seeing the last Ziggy Stardust show.
… meeting Steven Spielberg, Micky Dolenz and Joni Mitchell.
… and Boy George's gag about George Michael.
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PSB tour dates: https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/pet-shop-boys-tickets/artist/735852
Order the new Pet Shop Boys album ‘Nonetheless’ here:https://www.amazon.co.uk/nonetheless-Deluxe-2CD-Shop-Boys/dp/B0CTKKBBVF
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Thu, 11 Apr 2024 - 43min - 666 - Richard Thompson – “you know it’s time to go when the audience starts throwing chairs”
Richard Thompson first appeared onstage aged 14 playing Beatles covers in a school group “so bad we were pelted with pennies”. Sixty years later his range of operations includes touring solo and with his band, occasional reunions with Fairport Convention, residencies on Adriatic cruise ships and running a Guitar Camp in the Catskill Mountains (along with his sons and grandson). Much has he seen and learned about live entertainment along the way and he talks to us here from his home on the American East Coast on the day of the solar eclipse. Among the highlights …
… memories of the Marquee in 1965 – the Who, the Yardbirds, the Spencer Davis Group: “if you wanted to see both sets, you’d have to walk ten miles home”.
… seeing Nick Drake and the value of being “a silent, tortured genius”.
… life as a support act and how to “attack an audience”.
… Carl Perkins and Chuck Berry at the Finsbury Park Astoria in 1963 “when Chuck was at the height of his attention span”.
… Segovia at the Festival Hall.
… the perils of playing on sea cruises in rough weather.
… old and current album sleeves. “Dressed as a fly and now dressed as a fisherman … that’s progress.”
… how Ian Anderson and Captain Beefheart told the audience who’s boss.
… and watching the Band at the Albert Hall from a box with Fairport Convention.
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Richard Thompson tour dates: https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/richard-thompson-tickets/artist/736296
Order the new album Ship To Shore here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ship-Shore-Richard-Thompson/dp/B0CVXHMFPB
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Wed, 10 Apr 2024 - 24min - 665 - Neil Tennant remembers the pop press and “the last great era of forward-looking songs"
Neil’s an old friend from our days back at Smash Hits in the early ‘80s. The first Pet Shop Boys demos were played on the office tape machine, though he was a bit self-conscious about “the one with the rap on it”, and he’s one of the few people who’s seen the music press from every angle - as a reader in the ‘70s, as a writer and interviewer and as a musician on its front covers. We had so much great material from this wide-ranging conversation that we’ve turned it into a two-part podcast. Here’s a taste of what you’ll find in this first half ...
… the NME article he and his brother pinned to their bedroom wall.
… the event at a Sex Pistols show “which stopped me going to gigs for about three years”.
… the first time he saw his name in print.
… interviewing Marc Bolan in his “fat phase”.
… a barbed chat with Morrissey.
… the pop press shift from “super-showbiz to super-counter-culture”.
… Television, the Clash and other music he discovered through the NME.
… meeting John Taylor 35 years after interviewing him.
… the pop decade when “something extraordinary happened every day”.
… his mother’s horrified reaction when he left Smash Hits to start the Pet Shop Boys.
… the Human League in their Imperial Phase.
… Phil Collins showing him round Abba’s studio in Stockholm.
… and why ‘80s pop stars were “the most controlling”.
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PSB tour dates: https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/pet-shop-boys-tickets/artist/735852
Order the new Pet Shop Boys album ‘Nonetheless’ here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/nonetheless-Deluxe-2CD-Shop-Boys/dp/B0CTKKBBVF
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Tue, 09 Apr 2024 - 36min - 664 - The Stones’ clothes, our love affair with Abba & rock’s most appalling spectacle
We lobbed the cracked wooden ball of enquiry at the rock and roll coconut shy this week and a few choice items dropped off their perch, among them …
… was Kate Bush ‘the Queen of Prog’?
… ELP, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple playing to 350,000 people on a Speedway track.
… the three things that sparked the Abba revival.
… the Further Adventures of Desmond and Molly Jones, Mean Mr Mustard, Polythene Pam, Father McKenzie, Rocky Raccoon, Maxwell Edison, Rose and Valerie, Sweet Loretta Martin, Vera, Chuck and Dave … Beatles characters awaiting development deals.
… was Britpop the moment the engine went into reverse?
… the two years went rock went ‘fancy dress’.
… why the Stones in 1964 were five walking fashion statements.
… Bookends by Simon & Garfunkel and its Yes connection.
… how the Beatles were in uniform on every album cover.
… David Vine at the 1974 Eurovision: “if all the judges were men, this lot would get a lot of votes and you’ll see why in a moment!”
… plus a birthday guest party - Al Hearton’s life in a Kate Bush tribute band and Stephen Lambe on the complicated birth of 90125 by Yes.
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Mon, 08 Apr 2024 - 47min - 663 - Big Characters we have loved and why the Clash wouldn’t last ten minutes in 2024
We’ve applied our celebrated sheep/goats separation technique to the rock and roll pasture and shepherded the following into this week’s pod …
… Beyoncé and why it’s hard to connect with songs written by committee.
… are we too old for biopics?
… Marvel films, the Arctic Monkeys and other things you either love or avoid.
… reviewing Human Touch and Lucky Town in a high-security studio (and how you can only tell if an album’s any good if you’ve lived with it for two months).
… why Tony Blackburn is the greatest British DJ.
… “Bing was no more Bing than Sinatra was Sinatra”.
… hoary old tales that were the engine of the rock press - the Clash shooting pigeons, Kevin Rowland stealing his own master-tapes, Cliff v Elvis, Beatles v Stones, Hendrix v Clapton, Bowie v Bolan, Clash v the Pistols, Spandau v Duran, Oasis v Blur.
… are Oasis songs mostly about being Oasis?
… “fame is no longer enacted in the public space”.
… indie cliches – escaping the drudgery of the Man and mundanity of Small Town life.
… “the harder I practice, the luckier I get”.
… Scots punk act get movie soundtrack windfall!
… Alex is arranging a woke stag do - “you go to places where ladies put clothes ON”.
… plus birthday guest Andrew Newbury wonders if Country is more than “the three Ds - driving, dogs and divorce”.
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Sun, 31 Mar 2024 - 46min - 662 - How Paul Cook broke into Hammersmith Odeon to see the Who, Slade, Queen & Alex Harvey
Paul Cook’s post-Pistols band the Professionals were once, rather surprisingly, on the cover of Smash Hits - “the pinnacle of our success!” – and they’re including the 100 Club on their upcoming tour, the location of another career highlight. He talks to us here about how the first time he played live was also the Pistols’ first appearance (Saint Martin’s College of Art - “utter chaos”), how their old Denmark Street rehearsal room is now an AirBnB (Rotten’s cartoons still on the wall), old punks in the audience, Danny Boyle’s TV series and the very slim chance of a reunion (“never say never”). But much of this is about climbing through back windows to see bands in the early ‘70s, Stevie Wonder, the Four Tops, Queen and Mott the Hoople among them. And seeing Alex Harvey on the day the whole of Scotland descended on London for the match against England at Wembley.
The Professionals are playing four UK dates (and often chuck in a couple of Pistols' tunes):
https://www.ents24.com/uk/tour-dates/the-professionals-1-1
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Thu, 28 Mar 2024 - 18min - 661 - Sharleen Spiteri saw Joe Strummer onstage and thought “that’s what I want to be”
exas are touring in the autumn and she talks to us here about what’s required to make it all look easy, a conversation that includes …
… why working in a Glaswegian hair salon was the perfect preparation for pop stardom.
… the difference between the first second onstage and everything that follows.
… the advantage of being a singer with an instrument.
… seeing Jim Kerr in his mother’s blouse at Tiffany’s in Glasgow when she was 15.
… how Dusty Springfield remembered lyrics.
… Chrissie Hynde, Siouxsie, Depeche Mode, Cameo and the Clash.
… the overpowering spectacle of Prince’s Sign O’ The Times tour in Paris.
… playing racecourses and the unsettling sight of an audience wearing fascinator hats.
… supporting Fleetwood Mac (her second gig) and something useful learnt from Stevie Nicks.
… and the nocturnal sound of lions “going at it full swipe” near her house by Regents Park.
Texas tickets here: https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/texas-tickets/artist/742180
Texas & Spooner Oldham sessions:https://www.texas.uk.com/
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Tue, 26 Mar 2024 - 35min - 660 - Album sleeves as lifestyle statements and 5 seconds that made Phil Manzanera a fortune
The all-seeing telescope of truth scanned this week’s rock and roll heavens and noticed a few patterns emerge, among them …
… the real story of the writing of Layla and who nicked what from where. And who didn’t get paid.
… why Sally Grossman was on the cover of Bringing It All Back Home.
… album sleeves with overflowing ashtrays that screamed ‘welcome to my bohemian world!’ – Soft Machine’s Third, Man’s Rhinos, Winos + Lunatics, Back Street Crawler …
… album sleeves that said “meet my girlfriend!” – McDonald And Giles, the Madcap Laughs, The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan, Love Chronicles, the Paul Simon Handbook …
… album sleeves suggesting the powerful aphrodisiac of music and the allure of ‘the bachelor pad’ …
.. our night out at a Leo Sidran show and what we’ll expect – indeed insist upon - at all gigs in the future.
… when rock stars read 12th Century Persian poetry.
…the time Lucinda Williams toured with Dylan and Van Morrison and never met either of them.
… the glorious squalor of ‘70s flats.
… “comedy is tragedy at a different speed”.
… mentioned in despatches: Sharleen Spiteri, John Mellencamp, James Burton, Bobby Whitlock, Daniel Kramer.
The Everly Brothers’ Walking The Dog. Is that the original Layla riff at 2.20? …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=072OpLw-l_s
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Mon, 25 Mar 2024 - 36min - 659 - Phil Manzanera Part 2: an insider’s guide to Roxy Music (and a great Bob Dylan story)
Phil Manzanera – who thought “every day in the band felt like Christmas” – has just published his memoir, Revolución to Roxy, and talked to us about it in front of a rammed and captivated audience at London’s 21Soho, an evening so full of detail, intrigue and revelation we’re putting it out as two podcasts. This is the second. He lifts the bonnet of the Roxy Music “art collective” in its various line-ups and shows you how the engine worked and why the idea of Eno onstage was “frightening”. He remembers working with a whole range of people – David Gilmour, Robert Wyatt, Heroes De Silencia, Quiet Sun, 801, David Bowie, Keith Richards, Jack Bruce and Tim Finn among them. He talks about the five seconds of guitar he knocked off in 1975 that’s made him “more money than all my Roxy earnings put together”. He reflects – and very poignantly – that bands never talk to each other and how he hopes the other members read his memoir as they’ll discover things about him they never knew. And he tells the fantastic story of the Guitar Legends festival in Seville and the way he managed Bob Dylan.
And you can order a copy of ‘Revolución to Roxy’ here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Revoluci%C3%B3n-Roxy-Phil-Manzanera/dp/1783242817
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Sun, 24 Mar 2024 - 43min - 658 - Phil Manzanera’s enviable life in Roxy Music and beyond
Phil Manzanera – whose relatives include a Colombian pirate, a spy and an Italian opera musician - has just published his memoir, Revolución to Roxy, and talked to us about it in front of a packed and enthralled house at London’s 21Soho, a life so fascinating, detailed and colourful we’re releasing the conversation as a two-part podcast. Here’s Part One which looks back at an exotic childhood in Hawaii, Caracas and Cuba – with first-hand memories of Castro’s revolution in 1959 – and then his school days, early bands (the Drag Alley Beach Mob, Pooh & the Ostrich Feathers, Quiet Sun), the audition for Roxy Music, how they were styled, supporting David Bowie and their rapid and eventful ascent to the first hit single. When he joined the band, he said, “every day felt like Christmas”. Part Two to follow!
Order a copy here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Revoluci%C3%B3n-Roxy-Phil-Manzanera/dp/1783242817
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Fri, 22 Mar 2024 - 38min - 657 - Fish is bowing out to become a Hebridean shepherd. What’s he learnt in 45 years onstage?
Fish has announced a Farewell Tour in 2025. “I’ve been there, done that and sold the t-shirt.” He’s moving to a croft on a remote Scottish island with nesting eagles, a flock of sheep named after the Hibernian FC team of 1972 and part-ownership of what’s just been voted “the best beach in the world”. Getting there is like the journey in Brigadoon. This covers a wide range of bases, among them …
… how the fall of the Berlin Wall changed the tour circuit.
… his first gig as “a big, gangly, geeky teenager” at the Golden Lion in Galashiels playing Steely Dan and Ry Cooder covers.
… the lies boys tell when trying to get into bands.
… supporting Queen for an audience of 200,000 and how he “over-toured” Europe.
… how it feels to be “the Anti-Christ in the Church of Marillion” and their very public divorce in 1988.
… seeing Yes at the Usher Hall in for £1.25 and Genesis on the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway tour.
… the music press v the New Wave of British Prog.
… girls called Kayleigh whose mothers fancied the singer from Marillion.
… irate fans on social media.
… the fine art of “guerrilla touring”.
… plus the Faces, Sven Hassel, Edgar Rice Burroughs and a curious analogy about Sioux Indians.
UK tour dates here …
https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/fish-tickets/artist/740885
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Wed, 20 Mar 2024 - 46min - 656 - The extraordinary story of Steve Harley’s greatest hit
Make Me Smile (Come Up and See Me) was a slow-paced, vicious dirge about the band members who forsook and betrayed him which magically evolved into what appeared to be an optimistic love song, a radio staple that never stopped selling. David and Mark remembered its transformation.
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Mon, 18 Mar 2024 - 6min - 655 - Great divorce albums, Powerpop snobs and dark tales of 1999
Various items set off the alarm in the rock and roll bag-check this week and were hauled back for closer inspection, among them …
… when did records first try to sound like the past?
… why Karl Wallinger and Robbie Williams fell out over She’s the One.
... how Marillion and Chuck D changed the digital landscape.
… the only word for the sound of Free is “lascivious”.
… Blood on the Tracks, Here My Dear, Shoot Out The Lights, Tapestry, Tunnel of Love and other accounts of marital fracture.
… proof the mainstream no longer exists: Glastonbury headliner SZA has had 1.7b streams yet people claim they’ve never heard of her.
… the poignancy commercial failure lends to pop music.
… the Wire’s ‘100 Records That Set the World On Fire (While No-One was Listening)’.
… how Marvin Gaye married a woman 17 years older than him and left her for a 17 year-old.
… Eamonn Forde - in bed! - talking about his new book ‘1999: The Year the Record Industry Lost Control’, the people who knew the digital revolution was coming and the ones who didn’t believe it.
… Big Star, Dwight Twilley, the Raspberries, World Party and why Powerpop appeals to music snobs like us.
… “a Golden Age is when things behaved in such a way that you believed they’d behave that way forever”.
… plus Frank Sinatra, Ava Gardner, Andy Fraser, Steve Winwood and the days when “music down a phoneline” felt like science fiction.
Order Eamonn Forde’s 1999: The Year the Record Industry Lost Control here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/1999-Year-Record-Industry-Control/dp/1913172775
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Sun, 17 Mar 2024 - 1h 01min - 654 - Stephen Fall’s reviewed 3,333 of his albums. Buy the book!
Stephen Fall wrote reviews of his records, one a day, to make him a better listener. A decade later he published them in a book so colossal that we drop it on a desk to prove it’s passed the Boff Test. ‘Reviewing My Record Collection: 3,333 Albums from A to Zuma’ is a laudable labour of love, records he bought years ago and revisited, records he found in charity shops and took a punt on, records with reputations, records that deserve “a mauling”, records he wants the world to hear, records arranged alphabetically by title from A by Jethro Tull to Zuma by Neil Young & Crazy Horse. He’s evangelical about the album format and never skips a track. It’s an attractively personal view and often mentions when the relationship began – “I found Moon Pix by Cat Power for £1.50 in a Cancer Research in North Finchley”. This fascinating conversation about a love that knows no bounds touches on CDs you always find in charity shops (eg by REM, Dido and Travis), how strange it is that the same records you can pick up for 50p are often being repackaged as “top-end super-deluxe vinyl reissues” and how he felt a sense of bereavement when he finished the book. Which he’s why, oh yes, he’s begun Volume Two.
You can buy the first one for £17.99 from Amazon …
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Thu, 14 Mar 2024 - 22min - 653 - It’s Arthur Brown, the god of hellfire … paging Health & Safety!
Arthur Brown – enduring psychedelic godfather – is out on tour again 57 years after first performing Fire in a flaming metal crown. He’s nearly 82. This is the most old-school podcast we’ve ever done, talk of seeing Salvador Dali in his audience in a Paris nightclub, jazz bands on the back of trucks, his grandmother’s hotel being bombed in WW2, the birth of Flower Power, gigs at the UFO club, Palaeolithic art, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, panicked security personnel with fire blankets and memories of the key components of his incendiary headgear over the years among them cow gum, Army gaiters and a pie dish full of petrol. As you’ll discover – and this couldn’t be more old-school either – Zoot Money once had to extinguish the flames with two pints of Newcastle Brown.
Arthur’s keeping the home fires burning on a European tour. Dates here …
https://www.songkick.com/artists/333715-crazy-world-of-arthur-brown/calendar
Website - thegodofhellfire.com
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Tue, 12 Mar 2024 - 20min - 652 - Suzi Ronson - Bowie’s stylist - knows why rock and roll is all about hair
Suzi Ronson was working in a hairdressers in Beckenham in 1970 when a Mrs Jones dropped in for a shampoo and set talking gaily about her son, “an artistic boy who plays guitar and piano”. The same son who’d had a hit with Space Oddity and occasionally drifted down the High Road in a dress. Within weeks she’d become the first rock stylist, transforming Bowie’s hair, image and stage clothes and launching him in the direction of Ziggy Stardust and an international audience. She was a key part of his entourage that toured the UK, America and Japan and she talks about later life married to Spiders’ guitarist Mick Ronson, the role he played in Bowie’s success and the trials of his solo career in its aftermath. Both this podcast and her memoir (Me And Mr Jones: My Life With David Bowie and the Spiders From Mars) look at Bowie’s early career from a wholly new and original angle - in fact someone should base a film on it. A few highlights ...
… Haddon Hall and its exotic inhabitants.
… Schwarzkopf Red Hair Dye and other trade secrets.
.. how it feels to see an audience with the haircut you invented.
… expeditions to Liberty’s and Mr Fish with Angie Bowie.
… the Spiders’ northern sensibilities adjusting to the brave new world.
… how Tony Defries made Bowie mysterious and unreachable.
… why Lou Reed was a revelation.
… America’s Southern states reacting to the 1972 tour.
... and the magnetism of Bob Dylan and why Mick Ronson ended the Rolling Thunder tour with an invoice not a wage packet.
Order Suzi’s book here …
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Me-Mr-Jones-Suzi-Ronson/dp/057137185X
Suzi’s the special guest on the Lust For Life tour reading extracts from the book …
https://www.lustforlifetour.com/special-guest-support
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Mon, 11 Mar 2024 - 37min - 651 - How the Beatles invented pop video and acts we love who always sound the same
Nutritious items on the rock and roll tasting menu this week include …
… the curious life of Tom Verlaine, his grocery cart and his 50,000 books.
… was March 9 1984 the worst week ever for the British album charts?
… what all great records have in common.
… Yesterday’s news today! ‘Soundies’ at the cinema and the Scopitone colour video jukebox.
… why A Hard Day’s Night was the greatest advert for the magical qualities of the Beatles and the scene that was the blueprint for the pop promotional clip.
… comforting acts with a narrow range – JJ Cale, the Fabulous Thunderbirds, U2 (“like getting into your parents’ car after a school trip”). And what made JJ Cale’s recordings so mesmerising.
… did Johnny Marr ever play a guitar solo?
… “I work in advertising but tell my mother I play piano in a brothel”.
… the link between JJ Cale’s Call Me The Breeze and Family Affair by Sly & the Family Stone.
Mentioned in despatches … Cab Calloway and the Hondells, The Hoodoo Gurus, the Style Council, Jimmy Reed and the Inkspots.
Tom Verlaine’s 50,000 books …
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Sun, 10 Mar 2024 - 33min - 650 - Is social media killing pop music? And where have all the bands gone?
Caught in the piercing super-trouper of perusal this week …
... the BRITS 2024, a howling embarrassment.
… Medieval Beatles! She Came In Through the Privy Window, Everybody’s Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Kestrel, Comely Rita, I’m Happy Just To Joust With You …
… the wisdom of Tony Hancock.
… The Last Dinner Party and other ‘art concepts’.
… the Pattie Boyd/George Harrison/Eric Clapton love triangle.
… the days when “forming a band was a conspiracy against the tedium of life”.
… is it all over for young blokes in pop music? And is being in a band still considered sexy?
… the oldest musicians still touring: if Willie Nelson’s still going at 90, won’t Ed Sheeran be on the road at 100?
… “these days hanging a guitar round your neck insinuates that you might be homeless”.
.. and a whole range of facts that make starting groups seem less attractive (the cost, the likely profit, the decreasing appeal of ‘abroad’, digital gangs, how big ticket prices soak up all the live circuit cash).
... plus new patrons piped aboard!
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Mon, 04 Mar 2024 - 43min - 649 - For Henry Normal comedy is like “sugar and salt”
Henry Normal set up Baby Cow Productions with Steve Coogan, co-wrote the Royle Family, Coogan’s Run and Mrs Merton and produced Gavin & Stacy and Red Dwarf. He’s been a central plank in British comedy since the early ‘90s and, throughout it all, developed his own stage show built around poems and stories. He’s touring the UK with Brian Bilston. This podcast is full of hard-won insight into what makes comedy work and how the best poetry connects with “a greater truth”. And much besides including …
… what middle-class BBC execs wanted to change about the Royle Family and why it worked as it was.
… touring with John Cooper Clarke “who lived by a cemetery and had egg custard for breakfast”.
… putting on a Pensioners’ Disco, aged 14, that featured The March of The Mods played at 33.
... the influence of Roger McGough and the Liverpool poets.
… how, apart from the Office, American versions of British comedies mostly fail to get the point.
… seeing Juicy Lucy at the Nottingham Boat Club when he was 17.
… what made Spike Milligan’s Small Dreams Of A Scorpion so original.
… working with Caroline Aherne and Craig Cash and the Guardian’s first review – “three middle-class writers”.
… how to structure spoken word shows – “salad rather than soup”.
… and reflections about Mr Inbetween, Derry Girls, Clive James and Norman Gunston.
Get tickets for Henry Normal and Brian Bilston here: https://www.ents24.com/uk/tour-dates/henry-normal
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Sun, 03 Mar 2024 - 28min - 648 - Steve Howe of Yes tells a few tales from topographic oceans
Steve Howe talks to us from the old house and studio in Devon where they rehearsed ‘The Yes Album’ in 1970. He’s been recording there for 54 years and is part of the current line-up about to set out around Europe. He looks back here on what he’s learnt from 60 years onstage and mentions …
… the effect of seeing Chuck Berry, Carl Perkins and The Animals in 1964.
… playing old Shadows tunes at the Barnsbury Boys School in Holloway, aged 14.
… how Yes songs evolved and the cover versions they used to play (America by Paul Simon, Something’s Coming from West Side Story).
… “the dark 1968 that followed the rainbow 1967”.
... Duane Eddy, Hank Marvin, Chet Atkins, Alison Krauss and the Big Three.
… how Sgt Pepper – and blues, jazz and classical music - lit prog’s blue touchpaper.
… the value of “homework” and the hours of painstaking rehearsal that allowed them to play Fragile onstage.
… how Iron Butterfly helped transform the Yes stage show.
… Starship Trooper, Roundabout and other songs they’re guaranteed to play.
… old memories of Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe.
… and the road ahead: “I’ll keep going while I can still do the twiddly bits”.
Yes tour dates: https://www.yesworld.com/
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Thu, 29 Feb 2024 - 32min - 647 - The evergreen record that’s 50 years old & Jeremy Thorpe at a hippie commune
As this week’s rock and roll steeplechase thunders out over the jumps, the following runners and riders make it past the post …
… “First he changed music. Then he changed the world!” and other over-cooked biopic sells.
… Billy Joel returns by the miracle of Artificial Ignorance.
… what you learn from visiting rock stars’ childhood homes.
… what’s Malta done to deserve a four-day Liam Gallagher festival?
… the one thing that’s never changed about Country Music.
… how Hotel California ended up in court.
… Sam Mendes’ Beatles project and the problem with actors playing very famous people.
… Beyoncé’s ‘Texas Hold ‘Em’: sampled banjo and other misdemeanours.
… from Watergate to Putin: the 50 year-old record so lean, smart and cynical that the world’s only just catching up.
… Don Henley on Irving Azoff: “He may be Satan but he’s OUR Satan.”
… Rock sea-cruises: “get your marital vows renewed by a member of Weezer!”
... why CD has ruined Jackson Browne’s For Everyman.
… what Hugh Grant superimposed on the character of Jeremy Thorpe.
… and birthday guest Adrian Ainsworth - Arse Curtains and other career-limiting band names.
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Sun, 25 Feb 2024 - 59min - 646 - Richard Coles has faced every audience imaginable, one armed with pea-shooters
The Reverend Richard Coles is back on tour with his ‘Borderline National Trinket’ show and talks to us from his home in Sussex where he’s “the only person in the village who hasn’t won a BAFTA”. This looks back at his life – “a CV like the work of a fantasist” - and what he’s learnt from 50 years of watching various types of stage entertainment and playing to audiences ranging from the Wollaston Over-‘60s Methodist Ladies Fellowship to a bunch of delinquent Spanish pop fans with catapults. And he talks fondly of the Communards and how ‘80s pop was a Golden Age. Among the highlights …
… Morecambe & Wise at the Kettering Granada with Arthur Tolcher on the mouth organ.
… finding your “pulpit voice”.
… Sir Robert Helpmann’s great gag about referees.
… why time is a healer.
… the “marble denim and mullets” of Legs & Co’s interactive dance to the Communards on Top Of The Pops.
… on the literary circuit sandwiched between John Lydon and Marti Pellow – “dreams do come true”.
… if he’s ever met a shy vicar.
… the stagecraft of Danny Baker, Adam Kay and Grayson Perry.
… standing on a chair to conduct the RPO, aged 8 and the time he wrote a Magnificat For Choir And Snare Drum in A Minor.
… seeing Bauhaus, John Otway and the 4-Be-2s.
… sitting between Lenny Henry and Torvill & Dean at a Kylie show.
… his teenage punk band Zerox playing Clash covers.
… and why there are never any forks in a Green Room.
Get ‘Borderline National Trinket’ tickets here, last date March 11 at London’s Shaftesbury Theatre …
https://www.seetickets.com/tour/reverend-richard-coles
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Fri, 23 Feb 2024 - 30min - 645 - For Jah Wobble driving tube trains was even more thrilling than playing Glastonbury
Jah Wobble - aka John Wardle - wrote ‘Dark Luminosity: Memoirs of a Geezer’ in 2009. It’s just been reworked, expanded and republished and it’s well worth reading, full of detail about growing up in the East End, unexploded bombs, pickling factories, grim schooldays, record shops and clubs, the bands he saw and his arrival at Kingsway College where he met John Lydon and Sid Vicious and became a cornerstone of the punk rock inner circle. And then two challenging years as the bassist of Public Image Ltd, the time he worked as a train driver and ticket collector for London Transport, a series of collaborations – Brian Eno, Baaba Maal, Holger Czukay, Sinead O’Connor, Chaka Demus – and some bold and original solo albums (you’ll enjoy Island Records' reaction when he pitches an album based on the poems of William Blake). Among this podcast's highlights …
… the Kafkaesque world of working for the London Underground in the days when you could “punch an area manager and not get sacked”.
… why great rhythm sections are like great football players.
… his dad, an El-Alamein survivor, on seeing Mick Jagger on Top of the Pops: “the Rolling Stones should be used for mine clearance.”
… Public Image Ltd – “three of the weirdest people you could ever meet”, the band that kept their cash in a shoebox.
… “you can’t go through life as a tourist”.
… the secret of the perfect bass sound.
… watching the first Sex Pistols’ rehearsal.
… seeing Bob Marley & the Wailers at the Lyceum.
… the record that reversed his dislike of the Beatles.
… why working with Pharoah Sanders was the highlight of his musical life.
… his 2023 album, ‘The Bus Routes of South London’.
… Jim Reeves, Burl Ives and further sounds of the family homestead.
... and a powerful aversion to hippies.
Order John’s memoir here …
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dark-Luminosity-Memoirs-Geezer-expanded/dp/0571375359\
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Tue, 20 Feb 2024 - 35min - 644 - Steve Wright and other great radioheads, McCartney’s bass & the non-profits of Python
Pausing occasionally to spark a Senior Service and sink a milk stout, we kick cans down this week’s rock and roll boulevard stopping off at the following hotspots …
… the “Grunge Dripdown”: why Pearl Jam can play 60,000 seaters.
… the Elton Line, the Dury Line, the Bragg Line, the Kirsty Line …. What the London Overgrounds should have been called and why.
... how Steve Wright made radio and sowed the seeds of the Fast Show and Stella Street.
… actors who’ve joined the Choir Invisible but live on in voice-over.
… is any musician as closely linked to any instrument as McCartney to his Hofner bass? And the mysterious tale of its theft.
… J&M Studios (where Little Richard’s Tutti Frutti was recorded) is now a launderette with a jukebox. What became of Olympic, Town House, Motown and Bearsville?
… the Radio 2 v Greatest Hits ratings land-grab.
… does anyone under 60 still care about Monty Python?
… the latest glorious chapter in Taylor Swift and Kanye West’s 15-year “beef”.
… “All pop music is Strictly”: what David learnt from his six-year old granddaughters.
… the voice of Tommy Vance returns by the miracle of AI.
… “an elephant is a horse designed by a committee”.
... plus birthday guest Nick Foreman and why “underrated” is overrated.
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Mon, 19 Feb 2024 - 51min - 643 - Max Décharné reboots the golden age of the Teddy Boys
If a film director wanted to flag up incoming violence in the late ‘50s, the camera would fall upon a couple of Teds lurking in the street outside. The teenage Keith Richards remembers razors, bike chains and bloodshed at dance halls and there was an infamous Teddy Boy murder on Clapham Common that plunged the nation into frantic, media-led moral panic. Max Décharné sets out to reclaim the Teds from their “Cro-Magnon, knuckle-dragging cliché” in his new book Teddy Boys and relives this dangerously thrilling rock and roll revolution – the music, clothes, films, press stories, the birth of Ted, Peak Ted, its eventual demise and what’s kept the flame alive since. Things of note include …
… the full effect of Blackboard Jungle on a packed 4,000-seater cinema.
... that poignant sight of an old Ted pushing a pram with a woman with a beehive.
… Joan Collins in ‘Cosh Boy’.
… the first UK rock and roll gig, Bill Haley & the Comets at the New Theatre Royal in Portsmouth in 1956.
… the crepe-soled, velvet-collared Duke of Edinburgh, unlikely ’50s fashion icon.
… Little Richard, Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis at the London Rock and Roll Show at Wembley in 1972, a key point in the Ted revival.
… Malcolm McLaren, Johnny Rotten, Wizzard and assorted Ted torch-carriers.
… Viv Stanshall and ‘Teddy Boys Don’t Knit’.
… fingertip drapes from Savile Row and how Teds subverted top-end fashion.
… Fleetwood Mac as Earl Vince & the Valiants doing ‘Somebody’s Gonna Get Their Head Kicked In Tonite’.
… and how the Beatles and James Bond helped kick the Teds into touch.
Order Max’s book here …
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Teddy-Boys-Post-War-Britain-Revolution-ebook/dp/B0C3SFMTFH
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Sun, 18 Feb 2024 - 35min - 642 - Guy Garvey remembers the Grumbleweeds in panto, Santana fantasies & a song nicked from Roy Castle
Guy Garvey and Elbow start touring the UK in May and he looks back here at the first shows he saw growing up in Bury in the ’70s - when his five elders introduced him to punk, prog, folk, soul and Elton John - and proudly admits he still doesn’t know the names of the guitar strings. Look out for …
… the secrets of the “Vanity Thrust” and other 21st Century stagecraft.
… the time they supported the Stones.
… being with the same band members for 34 years and each “wanting to be a different member of Santana”.
… what he’s learnt about live performance - “never announce new material”.
… his 6Music show, Guy Garvey’s Finest hour (“one hour too long” – Mrs Guy Garvey).
… the un-PC death of Roy Castle in the Peter Cushing movie Dr Terry’s House of Horrors.
… good things about Little Simz.
… the time a snowstorm doubled their audience.
… working with the BBC Concert Orchestra – “if it’s Wagner you’ll miss two tea breaks”.
… when Paul McCartney turned “Partridge-esque”.
… and the possible ‘star guests’ on the upcoming tour.
Elbow tour dates …
https://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/elbow-tickets/artist/886289
Guy Garvey’s Finest hour …
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0072q60
Elbow are on Radio 2’s Piano Room with the BBC Concert Orchestra on Feb 21…
https://elbow.co.uk/bbc-radio-2-piano-room-month/
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Wed, 14 Feb 2024 - 27min - 641 - Lulu, when Prince did a bad thing and how the Beatles changed the shape of the human head
This week the two-man kayak of curiosity tackles the following rock and roll rapids …
… when was the last time there was a truly universal hit?
… why Waylon Jennings walked out of We Are The World.
... the story of Everybody’s Talkin’ and Midnight Cowboy.
… why the Beatles’ 1964 American invasion was the biggest surprise party in the world and how the Maysles Brothers’ doc became the template for A Hard Day’s Night.
… the secret haikus of Wes Anderson.
… the best moments in Jaws.
... why Tracy Chapman stole the Grammys.
… how USA For Africa v Band Aid showed a fundamental difference in the British and American character.
… the inscrutable world of Spotify royalty payments.
… when Lulu, Dusty and Sandie Shaw were re-booted.
… Mojo Nixon RIP, a “corner on two wheels on fire” kinda guy.
… Springsteen and Steve Van Zandt’s hair.
… “Let me die a young man's death” - Adrian Henri.
… plus birthday guest Keith Adsley suggests cover versions in movie soundtracks that are better than the originals – eg Fiona Apple’s Across the Universe, the Gypsy Kings’ Hotel California and the Soggy Bottom Boys’ Man of Constant Sorrow.
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Mon, 12 Feb 2024 - 53min - 640 - Musicians and their mothers and the records we could never sell
We spun the week’s rock and roll roulette wheel and this is where the balls landed …
… why all rock biopics are worth seeing once.
… ‘demixing’: we spent ages perfecting records. Now we’re unperfecting them.
… the adorable hand-drawn flyer the 15 year-old Robert Plant made for his band Blacksnake Moan 60 years ago – “the weirdest, wildest sound in R&B!”
… are all musicians driven by the urge to please their mums?
… Pyjamarama, Crazy Diamond, Cigarettesnalcohol and other rock and roll racehorses.
… why “The Room” by Fabiano do Nascimento and Sam Gendel is “healing music”.
… has anyone been ‘bigger’ than Taylor Swift? And how can she be so universally popular and yet we can go through life without hearing a note of her music?
… the Pet Shop Boys at the London Palladium: “we don’t do waving”.
… “Something's lost but something's gained in living every day” – Joni Mitchell.
… are any possesions more precious than records?
... and birthday guest Kevin Rose recommends the Brian Wilson biopic Love & Mercy – and we talk about Control (Joy Division), Backbeat (the early Beatles), Rocket Man and Baz Luhrmann’s Elvis.
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Sun, 04 Feb 2024 - 47min - 639 - Tom Hibbert (the world’s funniest music writer) and why Madonna should be sued
Our piercing Hubble Telescope Of Truth scans the rock and roll heavens to see what new patterns emerge, among them …
… running into Rod Stewart at a friend’s funeral.
… the priceless spectacle of rock critics dancing.
... Prefab Sprout and the fine art of bathos – “We were songbirds, we were Greek Gods, we were singled out by fate/We were quoted out of context - it was great!”
… the best songs about being in a band.
… Jackson Browne’s Running On Empty (and its hymn to self-love).
… King Kong, the most famous movie of all time - and why, like Jaws and Jurassic Park, the special effects now seem creaky but the drama still holds.
… our new pop star category: “dancer-singer”.
... how Tom Hibbert invented a whole new whole method of music journalism (and the only song that could get him on a dancefloor).
… “the crack of the backbeat on Vine Street”.
… and birthday guest Roger Millington on Heroes by David Bowie, the Archers theme tune and anything else that might make a new National Anthem.
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Sun, 28 Jan 2024 - 46min - 638 - TV's greatest musical moment - and are we still allowed to laugh at hopeless old rock bands?
Applying our patent ACME wheat/chaff separator to the rock and roll cornfield, this week’s podcast reaps the following harvest ….
… Stray, Budgie, Fat Mattress, Atomic Rooster … ropey bargain-bin fixtures reborn as costly and collectible vinyl classics.
… Neil Or No Neil: Let’s Impeach the President, The Lone Ranger And Tonto Fistfight in Heaven … spot the fake Shakey song title.
… what they did with the Beatles’ Twist And Shout in the opening sequence of True Detective 4.
… the curious tale of the last line in Casablanca plus Dooley ‘Sam’ Wilson and his off-screen piano double.
… when the Dave Matthews Band tour bus tipped 800lbs of raw sewage onto a pleasure cruiser.
… why it’s hard to feel nostalgic about online magazines.
… “deep-end record-shop-haunting bores” (like us).
… the first three Robert Palmer albums and their old-school sleeves.
… life in the ‘70s without the NME: unimaginable.
… when Neil Young was sued for not sounding like Neil Young and John Fogerty for plagiarising his own material.
... and birthday guests Paul Knox and the biggest musical moments on TV, among them Magical Mystery Tour, John Martyn on Whistle Test, the Pistols on So It Goes ….
Is this the greatest musical moment on TV?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pKpfs5EK_s
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Mon, 22 Jan 2024 - 50min - 637 - Graham Gouldman knows where to alphabetically file 10cc records
In March Graham Gouldman and 10cc are coming your way and here he talks to David Hepworth about:
- seeing Cliff and the original Shadows at his first live show
- playing live in the sixties, when a band would plug all three guitars into the same amp
- where he keeps his fifty guitars
- what’s going on when it all goes quiet on the 10.c.c. tour bus
- the songs you have to play for the audience
- the ones you play for yourself
- what goes through his head every night when he’s standing in the wings
- the proper place to put 10 cc in an alphabetical record collection
Full tour dates here: https://www.10cc.world/events
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Sun, 21 Jan 2024 - 17min - 636 - Annie Nightingale (“the great goth auntie”), choirs on pop records & the music they sent into space
We stuck a coin in this week’s jukebox of news and cranked up the volume and these were the tracks that got played …
… fond memories of Annie Nightingale at Radio One and Whistle Test.
… the delicious melancholy of Sunday night pop radio.
… how David Gilmour writes songs.
… sex, clothes, gangsters: the eternal allure of Bonnie & Clyde.
… how the first Police album (including three hit singles) was recorded by a former doctor in a four-track studio above a dairy in Leatherhead for £1,500, and the band’s touching tribute when he died.
… the British Library hijack hack.
… the fantasy theme of so many ‘60s movies: ‘escape’.
… Ridley Scott’s Hovis ad.
… Blind Willie Johnson, Chuck Berry … Blodwyn Pig? The five tracks you’d send into space to represent life on earth.
… how future wars will be started.
… plus birthday guest Sandra Austin on the best use of choirs on records among them Aretha Franklin’s You’ve Got A Friend, Blur’s Tender, the Stones’ You Can’t Always Get What You Want, Roy Harper’s When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease.
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Mon, 15 Jan 2024 - 53min - 635 - Jim Gordon - the supernatural gift and tragic fate of “the greatest rock drummer” with Joel Selvin
Jim Gordon played the drums on Wichita Lineman, Good Vibrations, the Byrds’ Mr Tambourine Man and hundreds of other recordings we all own and worked with pretty much everyone including Steely Dan, Tom Waits, Tom Petty, Randy Newman, John Lennon, Frank Zappa and the Everlys. He toured with Delaney & Bonnie and Joe Cocker’s Mad Dogs And Englishmen package and was a member of Derek & the Dominos. He played with a “bounce, a lilt, a boiling undercurrent” that added a whole new melodic dimension and he saw two different worlds from the inside, the studio-based pop factories of the ‘60s singles boom and the big ‘70s tours of the heyday of the rock album. West Coast author and music columnist Joel Selvin considers his supreme talent and ultimately catastrophic story in his new book ‘Drums & Demons: the Tragic Journey of Jim Gordon’ alighting here at various points in detail, among them …
… the intersection between “rock and roll and true crime”.
… the secret of “a compositional drummer”.
… how he started at the top, aged 17, touring with the Everlys and the Rolling Stones.
… how Rita Coolidge was robbed of her royalties, twice.
… his appetite for fame and recognition at a time when “being a rock star was the most elevated position in the world”.
… why he turned down a Dylan tour.
… the long, tangled evolution of ‘Layla’ and what Jim added to You’re So Vain that transformed it.
… and why he was sentenced to 16 years (for the murder of his mother) and ended up doing 38.
Order Joel’s book here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Drums-Demons-Tragic-Journey-Gordon/dp/1635768993
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Sat, 13 Jan 2024 - 33min - 634 - Great albums now 50 years old, the best gag ever & the haircut that launched folk-rock
Leaping across puddles, walking between the raindrops, its collar turned to the cold and damp, our weekly podcast builds a defence against the rigours of the rock and roll weather and offers shelter from the storm. Remain warm and dry with the following …
… the 11 musicians who turned down a Knighthood, MBE etc.
… why Dylan & the Band’s 1974 tour set the template for all tours to follow.
… Rod Stewart minus the hair: unimaginable.
… the old duffers’ perfect New Year’s Eve.
… happy 50th to Joni Mitchell’s Court and Spark, Van Morrison’s It’s Too Late To Stop Now, Steely Dan’s Pretzel Logic, Gram Parsons’ Grievous Angel, Big Star’s Radio City, Todd Rundgren’s Todd and Frank Zappa’s Apostrophe.
… Mr Bates v the Post Office and why sad films and books get harder to process as you get older.
… the wit and wisdom of our old pal Rod Sopp, the Smash Hits ad man - “a roll of cash big enough to choke a donkey”; “he’s so thin he has to run around in the shower to get wet”.
… Sting, Debbie Harry, Elvis Presley: spot the natural blond.
… how Woody Allen uses music to “make films look better”.
… the story of Everybody’s Talkin’ in Midnight Cowboy.
… why movie dance sequences are often filmed in silence.
… and birthday guest Andrew Slattery: All Along the Watchtower in Withnail, Sanctus in If, Didn't Leave Nobody But the Baby in O Brother Where Art Thou? and other great movie soundtrack moments.
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Sun, 07 Jan 2024 - 53min - 633 - Noel Coward, Gallagher & Squire’s superpower summit & the art of the Bob Dylan backbeat
Amid the detritus of tangerine peel, half-eaten chocolates, broken toys and jars of home-brewed chutney beneath the rock and roll Christmas tree we found various items still unwrapped and awaiting this week’s podcast, among them …
… how to create the Dylan Blonde On Blonde shuffle in under two minutes.
… “Middlesex Hepworth!” David’s triumph on University Challenge and an inside view of the whole experience.
… Noel Coward revisited through the 21st century lens in the ‘Mad About The Boy’ documentary.
… Liam Gallagher & John Squire’s super-duo: it’s the Mancunian nostalgia jackpot but are the days of pre-release hype now over?
… the most creative thing anyone can do.
… actors from humble backgrounds used to pretend to be posher, now the posher ones affect to be working class.
… how to listen to live albums: new Hepworth research reveals essential ingredient to enhance audio experience!
… ‘a mix is never finished, it’s merely abandoned’, ‘snapping to the grid’ plus the idiosyncrasies of a ‘smart drummer’.
This is the link to creating the Dylan shuffle: https://youtu.be/BMPoFYAwXQ0?t=78
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Sun, 31 Dec 2023 - 54min - 632 - Hipgnosis album art, the hardest working man in showbiz & the moment the world went mad
We check this week’s luggage on the rock and roll baggage carousel and remove the following items for inspection …
… The People v OJ Simpson and why it’s worth re-watching.
… the only two convincing films about magazines and journalism.
… bands that look like mini-cab drivers.
… David’s upcoming appearance on University Challenge (cue the voice of Roger Tilling: “Middlesex Hepworth!”)
... the source of the phrase “Bring on the empty horses!”
… why someone called Riley asked John McVie and Nick Mason for his life back.
… who was more prolific, Michael Curtiz, Barbara Cartland or Mozart?
… the eternal destination of all Peter Pan royalties.
… the man who saved Po Powell from a spell in the cooler.
… “Morning, Gentlemen. Nice day for murder!”
… writing bands’ names on school bags.
… ‘I need a sheep, a psychiatrist’s couch, a vet and a ticket to Hawaii!’
... the old Word magazine gang and what they’re doing now.
Mentioned in despatches – the Atom Heart Mother cow, a duff Barry Gibb movie, the Mark Leeman Five and Balaam And the Angel.
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Mon, 18 Dec 2023 - 48min - 631 - Denny Laine, the Move’s catastrophic court case & the man who's made 700 albums in 2 years
This week’s wheat/chaff separation process sifts the following from the rock and roll cornfield …
… Tony Secunda, his gangsterish suits and the publicity stunt that backfired spectacularly.
… our old Word magazine pal Rob Fitzpatrick talking about the Japanese composer Michiru Aoyama who's released an album a day since December 2021, each 20 minutes 20 seconds long. And the role of streaming in the ambient music boom.
… the life of Denny Laine and the great “chamber pop” hit he wrote.
... why the Move’s Flowers In The Rain has never earned the band a cent.
… how the death of John Lennon was the dawn of the ‘black border’ magazine tribute.
… Willie Nelson’s way with a middle eight.
… the last men standing in the Band On The Run album shoot.
… is there anyone still on the road older than “the French Bob Dylan” Hugues Aufray (94) and Marshall Allen 0f the Sun Ra Arkestra (99)?
… and mentioned in dispatches - Harold Wilson, Frank Ifield, Ginger Baker’s Air Force, ‘Ronnie & Clyde’ and birthday guest Rob Collis and the best rock and roll movies.
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Sun, 10 Dec 2023 - 59min - 630 - The Beatles as seen by their roadie, co-conspirator & friend Mal Evans – and Kenneth Womack
Mal Evans was the Beatles’ right-hand man, their bouncer, bodyguard, gofer, chauffeur, drug-runner, roadie, fellow party animal, confidante and friend. Along with Neil Aspinall he was the man who allowed the band to function daily and catered to their every need. He was such a central cog in the machine that Ringo declared, “now Mal’s left, the Beatles are really over.” Mal’s son delivered his archive of photos, manuscripts and memorabilia to the author, lecturer and world-renowned Beatles authority Kenneth Womack and asked him to write his father’s memoir, and the result – ‘Living The Beatles Legend: On the Road with the Fab Four – the Mal Evans Story’ – has just been published. It sees the whole story through a completely different lens. Among the highlights in this illuminating conversation with Ken you’ll find …
... Mal’s delicate relationships with the band and role as a peace-keeper.
… further proof that Allen Klein “caused despair”.
… why Lennon said life on the road “was like Satyricon”.
… Mal’s brief tenure as Apple’s MD.
… how Cynthia Lennon unknowingly shopped him to his wife.
… the internal world of “the eight outsiders” (the Fabs, Brian, George M, Neil and Mal).
… the reunion with John and Paul at a Harry Nilsson session and the Jesse Ed Davis incident on the Lost Weekend.
… echoes of Mal in John Junkin’s character in A Hard Day’s Night.
… and the tragic and complex circumstances of his death at the hands of the police in 1976.
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Tue, 05 Dec 2023 - 43min - 629 - A drink to Shane MacGowan, Spinal Tap rebooted and lunch with Randy Newman
Belfast author and old pal of the pod Stuart Bailie joins us to remember the lost captain of the good ship Pogues and we touch on Shane’s “feral” early life and the character he constructed to keep the world at bay; his place in the Irish literary pantheon, his intelligence worn lightly and Joycean use of language; the night they drank the proceeds from Fairytale Of New York; why the band’s St Patrick’s Day shows were three-day events and a magnet for lost Celtic souls, and how they became good by stealth but were so divisive in Ireland. This alongside other savoury and invigorating ingredients in this week’s rock and roll hot-pot, among them …
… David’s five most-played tracks on Spotify in 2023.
… real or imaginary Xmas singles? De La Soul’s Millie Pulled A Pistol On Santa? Sonic Youth’s Santa Doesn’t Cop Out On Dope? Ol’ Dirty Bastard’s Santa’s In The Clan? ….
… the life and exceptional times of John Mayall, 90, and the people who passed through his blues academy.
… why Spinal Tap might be best left alone.
…and the song Randy Newman wrote about missing his ex-wife plus a tremulous joint recitation of Simon Smith & the Amazing Dancing Bear.
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Mon, 04 Dec 2023 - 40min - 628 - Pauline Murray’s kids have finally found out what Mum did in the Punk Wars
Pauline Murray kept a diary when she and Penetration were on the punk rock frontline and her vivid and emotional memories appear in a new memoir, Life’s A Gamble, beautifully illustrated with personal photos, press cuttings, late ‘70s gig listings and other lovingly archived memorabilia. It teleports you back to a time when pop music made daily headlines and battles were lost and won in fragrant dancehalls and knackered vans on motorways. As does this podcast, recorded with an audience at London’s 21Soho club in late November. Aged 14 she was travelling to London from County Durham and sleeping in railway stations to see the Pistols and the Clash. She formed Penetration in ‘76 and for two hectic years they were caught up in the whirlwind. This account of it all includes Alan Freeman, Gilbert O’Sullivan, Jonathan Richman, Tim Curry (as Dr Frank-N-Furter), why the deaths of Sid and Nancy has such symbolic significance, the female punk ‘sisterhood’ giving her the cold shoulder, her unwise marriage, and the profit and loss statement of the debt she still owes Virgin (the annual reminders have never stopped). And she talks movingly about the experience every group endures when their first flush of mutual love and enthusiasm turns to bitter inter-personal fall-out. One of her kids was in the audience. As was Gaye Advert!
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21Soho:https://www.21-soho.com/
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Sun, 03 Dec 2023 - 41min - 627 - Glen Matlock and the ‘Sliding Doors moment’ that sparked the punk rock fuse
Glen Matlock came to our live podcast recording at London’s 21Soho at the end of November and lit up the audience with tales from his new memoir ‘Triggers’, stories of his early life in the late ‘50s and ‘60s, his brief and riotous shift in the Sex Pistols and his colourful adventures since. The full cast list includes Jeff “Skunk” Baxter, the DJ Mike Raven, Gary Glitter, John Peel, Kenneth Horne, Malcolm McLaren, Nick Kent, Ian McLagan, Ronnie Lane, Midge Ure, Wally Nightingale, Blondie and Bill Grundy.
You get a real sense of the fabric of London around Ted Carroll’s record stall in Ladbroke Grove and around Denmark Street when the Pistols lived and rehearsed there. And look out for the night they played a Conservative Club to a crowd of six, the time McLaren begged him to return as “it wasn’t working out with Sid”, the Filthy Lucre reunion and his luminous account of Johnny Rotten’s audition backed by a jukebox playing Alice Cooper.
Glen Matlock came to our live podcast recording at London’s 21Soho at the end of November and lit up the audience with tales from his new memoir ‘Triggers’, stories of his early life in the late ‘50s and ‘60s, his brief and riotous shift in the Sex Pistols and his colourful adventures since. The full cast list includes Jeff “Skunk” Baxter, the DJ Mike Raven, Gary Glitter, John Peel, Kenneth Horne, Malcolm McLaren, Nick Kent, Ian McLagan, Ronnie Lane, Midge Ure, Wally Nightingale, Blondie and Bill Grundy.
You get a real sense of the fabric of London around Ted Carroll’s record stall in Ladbroke Grove and around Denmark Street when the Pistols lived and rehearsed there. And look out for the night they played a Conservative Club to a crowd of six, the time McLaren begged him to return as “it wasn’t working out with Sid”, the Filthy Lucre reunion and his luminous account of Johnny Rotten’s audition backed by a jukebox playing Alice Cooper.
Recorded in front of a live audience at 21Soho, London, on November 27th 2023.
Glen’s tour dates are here:http://www.glenmatlock.co.uk/
And you can order ‘Triggers’ here:https://www.waterstones.com/book/triggers/glen-matlock/9781788709446
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Fri, 01 Dec 2023 - 1h 02min - 626 - Does anyone know more about rock stars than Jenny Boyd?
You wonder why her life hasn’t been made into a movie. Jenny Boyd’s mother had so many children she didn’t realise her daughter had quit school and become a model. The world of London clubs and fashion magazines was the start of 60 years’ close observation of rock stars in every context leading, eventually, to the publication of ‘Icons of Rock’, her interviews with 65 musicians. Among the highlights in this pod she talks about...
… what life’s like when your sister marries a Beatle.
… the day a besotted Donovan played her the song he’d written about her (‘Jennifer Juniper’).
… how the 16 year-old Cheynes’ drummer Mick Fleetwood took one look at her and declared “that’s the girl I’m going to marry”.
… the Crazy Elephant and the Scotch of St James.
… watching the Beatles write songs in Rishikesh.
… her transition from being “a dollybird” to "a searcher".
… modelling in California and the Monterey Pop Festival.
… the characteristics songwriters have in common and the meaning of “the peak experience”.
… being the only mum in the Fleetwood Mac orbit, life at their Kiln House commune and why Mick was “the pot of glue” that held the band together.
… “talent is inherited but stamina often isn’t”.
… and memories of Peter Green, Joni Mitchell, David Crosby, Graham Nash and “Magic” Alex.
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Wed, 29 Nov 2023 - 45min - 625 - Who’s next for an AI movie, first use of sampling & rock stars in unsuitable clothes
We ran our metal detector over this week’s rugged rock and roll terrain and dug deep when it beeped. Among those prime locations …
… the secret of Top Gear’s golden age.
… is Bob Dylan a “cold weather concept”?
… why Holger Czukay’s ‘Movies’ is a pivotal record.
… Daryl Hall’s restraining order on John Oates: inter-band fall-out scales brave new heights.
… the ground-breaking ingredient in ‘He’s Gonna Step On You Again’ by John Kongos.
… why Joni Mitchell, Lee Perry and Pink Floyd were early pioneers of sampling.
… the night some loon climbed the scaffolding above the E Street Band.
… pre-McLaren theft of the Burundi Beat.
… the irksome mob rule of the internet: “all bands are now sacred and anyone who says different is a heretic”.
… when an album cover is a “lifestyle statement”.
… plus birthday guests Kevin Walsh and Simon Poulter and best of this year’s rock books.
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Mon, 27 Nov 2023 - 1h 00min - 624 - Kanye West & the billion dollar gym pumps plus the album sleeve that changed the game
The week’s rock and roll luggage was put through the scanner by our sharp-eyed security chiefs and the following items kept back for scrutiny …
… 82 year-old jazzer in lucrative samples windfall!
… is there a more excruciating ‘mum’ moment than the 12 year-old Elijah Blue Allman’s in the Cher video If I Could Turn Back Time?
…. the staggering sum total of what the Beatles did on 30 July 1963.
… “Mailbox money”: how Phil Manzanera made more from a hip hop record than from 15 years of Roxy Music
… why would anyone be a pop star these days?
… further proof that in the world of the internet nothing is forgotten.
… why the quantity of cash Kanye West pulled from the “athleisure” shoe market makes the music business look like toytown. And are “vintage trainers” the new rare vinyl?
… when was the first sample?
… and Christmas with David’s Uncle Stan.
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Tue, 21 Nov 2023 - 38min - 623 - The 2-Tone story - Daniel Rachel remembers the school playground “turning black and white”
As if by some magical alignment of the planets, the Specials, Madness and the Beat were all listening to the same music and developing the same look at precisely the same time, though completely unaware of each other. And when they started releasing records, the 10 year-old Daniel Rachel was transfixed. What happen next is recorded in his hectic and engrossing book, Too Much Too Young: the 2-Tone Records Story, the huge characters, the daily dramas, “the dance sensation that’s sweeping the nation”, a period whose white heat really only lasted 18 months but had a massive cultural impact at the time (indeed its crucible, Coventry, now has a 2-Tone Village!). And the movement’s main architect, Jerry Dammers, was a middle-class, ex-hippie art student raised in the church. All sorts of points come up in this engaging pod, among them …
… the pivotal meeting between Suggs and Dammers at the Hope & Anchor.
… the significance of Walt Jabsco and the 2-Tone merchandise – “when the rag trade gets hold of you, you’re made”.
… the crossover between violence at gigs and football matches in the late ‘70s and the right-wing factions that attached themselves to Madness.
… how the music press adored 2-Tone then brutally turned the tables.
… Rico, Saxa and the revolutionary twin-generational line-ups of the Specials and the Beat.
.… why the Bodysnatchers only lasted 11 months.
… why 2-Tone failed in America until the Dance Craze movie arrived.
… how each member of the Specials thought they were in a different band.
… why there were so many “2-Tone casualties”.
… and the brief window between punk and electronic pop that helped 2-Tone take off.
Order ‘Too Much Too Young: the 2-Tone Records’ story here:https://www.amazon.co.uk/Too-Much-Young-Soundtrack-Generation/dp/1399607480
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Sat, 18 Nov 2023 - 44min - 622 - Why Kirsty MacColl was so funny, honest, original and impossible to sell – by Jude Rogers
Jude Rogers – writer, broadcaster, old pal of the pod - first heard Kirsty MacColl when she was nine and felt a connection ever since. She’s just written the sleevenotes for ‘See That Girl’, the best, most diverse and exquisitely packaged compilation of her music ever assembled, an eight CD box-set of singles, rarities, unheard songs, live and Glastonbury appearances, demos, BBC sessions and collaborations, along with an entire unreleased album.
As Jude points out she wasn’t overlooked, but all the things you applauded about her made her very hard to market. She wouldn’t play the game. She refused to be fashionable. She was funny and honest and wrote about an unvarnished, real world which robbed her of a sense of mystery, and a lot of her songs were about fallibility and failure. Among the highlights here …
… a long-running lyric thread that began with There’s a Guy Works Down The Chip Shop Swears He’s Elvis.
… why what she wrote about men (and women) was so original.
… her strained relationship with her father.
… what Johnny Marr admired about her and the power of her “Elysian chorus”.
... why you’ll never find another song like ‘Autumnsoupgirl’.
… how she and Dave Robinson’s hairdresser launched Tracey Ullman’s career.
… and David Hepworth’s inspired idea for ‘In These Shoes?’, the West End Kirsty MacColl musical.
Order the 8CD box set ‘See That Girl’ here:https://www.amazon.co.uk/See-That-Girl-1979-2000-8CD/dp/B0C9GCDZST
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Tue, 14 Nov 2023 - 27min - 621 - Mystery people on album sleeves, Elton dressed as a hornet and Leonard Cohen’s favourite song and why
This week’s winning hand from the rock and roll card deck includes …
… a silver salute to musicians who don’t dye their hair.
… did Al Pacino play Phil Spector? Roger Daltrey as Franz Liszt? Was Gary Oldman Joe Strummer?
… rock stars you’d swap lives with.
… the “theme-park-ification” of pop music.
… the mysteries of rock and roll are slowly evaporating. As Tom Waits said: “before the internet, we used to wonder. I miss the wondering.”
… the immortality of the Florida salesman who appears on the cover of Abbey Road (and had obituaries when he died).
… why Leonard Cohen thought his romance with Joni Mitchell was “like living with Beethoven”.
… how a split-second made and destroyed the lives of two photographers covering Lee Harvey Oswald at the Dallas Police Headquarters.
… musicians who look even better older.
… how Pink Floyd helped kick-start rock’s love affair with football.
… the unenviable world of Robbie Williams.
...and is Abba the only act that works as holograms?
Plus Led Zeppelin’s Victorian Wiltshire thatcher and birthday guests Mike Sketch and Peter Petyt.
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Mon, 13 Nov 2023 - 53min - 620 - Slade, a rambunctious reminder of a vanished world by Daryl Easlea
Slade were as revolutionary as T. Rex or Roxy Music, Daryl Easlea points out. At one stage they were outselling Bowie and Bolan. They were the band that hauled the sedentary early ‘70s audience to its feet. The sound of the Ramones was built around ‘Slade Alive!’ and you can feel them in the bones of the Pistols and Oasis. We talk here to Daryl about his funny, energetic, nostalgic and affectionate new book, ‘Whatever Happened to Slade?: When The Whole World Went Crazee’, stopping off at various stations on the route, among them …
… why there are “two tiers of Slade”.
… the drunken conversation that turned them into a skinhead band overnight.
… a key moment involving Crispian St Peters, Kim Fowley and the Tiles Club.
… what made them football terrace heroes.
… how these “smashers and grabbers” tore up the live circuit.
… the very ‘70s way they dealt with Don Powell’s accident.
… why American audiences had their “mellow harshed”.
… the publican’s son who styled them.
… the transformational moment at the '72 Lincoln Festival.
… the story of the ‘Give Us A Goal’ video filmed at Brighton’s Goldstone Ground.
… and why the main salesman in their line-up was the one “with tinsel in his veins”.
Slade were as revolutionary as T. Rex or Roxy Music, Daryl Easlea points out. At one stage they were outselling Bowie and Bolan. They were the band that hauled the sedentary early ‘70s audience to its feet. The sound of the Ramones was built around ‘Slade Alive!’ and you can feel them in the bones of the Pistols and Oasis. We talk here to Daryl about his funny, energetic, nostalgic and affectionate new book, ‘Whatever Happened to Slade?: When The Whole World Went Crazee’, stopping off at various stations on the route, among them …
… why there are “two tiers of Slade”.
… the drunken conversation that turned them into a skinhead band overnight.
… a key moment involving Crispian St Peters, Kim Fowley and the Tiles Club.
… what made them football terrace heroes.
… how these “smashers and grabbers” tore up the live circuit.
… the very ‘70s way they dealt with Don Powell’s accident.
… why American audiences had their “mellow harshed”.
… the publican’s son who styled them.
… the transformational moment at the '72 Lincoln Festival.
… the story of the ‘Give Us A Goal’ video filmed at Brighton’s Goldstone Ground.
… and why the main salesman in their line-up was the one “with tinsel in his veins”.
Order Daryl’s book here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Whatever-Happened-Slade-Whole-Crazee/dp/1783055545
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Thu, 09 Nov 2023 - 33min - 619 - The KLF torched £1m "and are haunted by it daily". John Higgs knows why
John Higgs' brilliant and wide-ranging book 'The KLF: Chaos, Magic and the Band Who Burned A Million Pounds' came out ten years ago and just keeps on selling. It sold initially to the fans who bought their records. Then to those absorbed by the fringe figures in their mythology - Ken Campbell, Alan Moore, Robert Anton Wilson, the Discordians. And then to people who just wanted a staggering and barely believable story about the attacks by two free-wheeling cultural terrorists on the worlds of art and music at the end of the 20th century. It sold so well in fact that it's just been republished in a 10th Anniversary edition with additional material.
John Higgs is an exceptional speaker as this pod demonstrates and talks here about the outer reaches of their extravagantly lunatic strategies - the ABBA court case, the dead sheep, the pagan rituals on Jura, the collaboration with Tammy Wynette - and how many backfired on them and why Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty have barely seen each other in almost 30 years. This podcast was recorded in front of an enthralled audience at 21Soho in London on October 30th 2023.
Order the 10th anniversary edition here:https://www.amazon.co.uk/KLF-Chaos-Burned-Million-Pounds/dp/139961035X
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Tue, 07 Nov 2023 - 47min - 618 - What did we think of the Beatles' last hurrah?
"The Beatles gave us a continuing soundtrack of unparalleled charm and reassurance", Derek Taylor said. "As long as they kept on delivering fresh songs along with the morning milk, everything was right in our optimistic world". It happened again on Thursday. Is the old magic still there?
Also on the menu in this week's podcast...
... Fact or fiction? The extravagant adventures of Bill Drummond and why burning £1m still haunts the KLF.
... does it matter if musicians falsify their past? Paging Buffy St. Marie, Sixto Rodriguez, Seasick Steve...
... why calling the Beatles "the original boy band" is so ridiculous and wrong and how their story fires our desire to believe.
... how Lucinda Williams beat the autocue system.
... Crowded House, the strange tale of 'Woodface' and the track that kept them off American radio for two years.
... why Peter Jackson's 'Now And Then' video is like "fan fiction".
... Giles Martin's theories about producing music the way people remember it sounding (and why he was sacked by Martin Scorsese and then re-hired a few weeks later).
... and - in other piping hot news - the man behind 'Manuel and His Music of the Mountains' and the tax problems of the Singing Nun!
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Sun, 05 Nov 2023 - 1h 00min - 617 - For Ian Broudie & the Lightning Seeds, 'Three Lions' has been a blessing and a curse
There are broadly three Ian Broudies in the public imagination. One is the songwriter with a catalogue of softly psychedelic left-field pop tunes. The second is the record producer behind Echo & the Bunnymen, the Fall, the Coral and Terry Hall. The third is the co-composer of our new national anthem. He talks here about early life in Liverpool and the records that enthralled him (See Emily Play, Autobahn), what he learned from his mentor Roger Eagle (who ran Eric's Club), a life-shifting moment with Steve Wright, what matters most in production, the disastrous time he introduced the Spice Girls on Top of the Pops and why the FA rejected the original version of Three Lions, wanted a new title and asked him to drop Skinner and Baddiel. He's funny, outspoken, candid, modest and affectionate and movingly philosophical on the rigours of composition: "as soon as you finish a song it becomes something - but it loses 90% of what it couldhave become".
This podcast was recorded in front of a live audience at 21Soho in London on October 30th, 2023 and Ian's new memoir is just out - 'Tomorrow's Here Today: Lightning Seeds, Football and Post-Punk'.
Order Ian's book here:https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tomorrows-Here-Today-Lightning-Post-Punk/dp/1788709020
21Soho:https://www.21-soho.com/
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Fri, 03 Nov 2023 - 44min - 616 - Billy Sloan, the man who interviewed Grace Jones in a bath
Billy Sloan, Glaswegian broadcaster and music columnist, has written his memoir, ‘One Love, One Life’, about a career that’s allowed him to point his microphone at an astonishing array of musicians and started back in the old analogue world of tight-deadline newspaper journalism where you hammered out your Chuck Berry interview as the rolls of film were biked back to the office to be processed. This covers a lot of ground including …
… the moment that changed his life.
… why the London Press Corps were “a pack of hyenas”.
… Rod Stewart v Michelle Mone – a classic revenge saga that ticked every box.
… interviewing a naked Grace Jones (and how Dame Edna got involved).
… the exquisitely “horrible” Chuck Berry.
… queuing all night for 85p Who tickets, aged 15.
… the Sensational Alex Harvey Band, “boo-ed onstage, roared off”.
… a trip to the Reeperbahn via Rory Gallagher.
… life at the Sunday Mail and the Daily Record.
… the great Scottish rock boom of the early ‘80s “when if you had a floppy fringe and desert boots you’d expect to be flagged down by an A&R man with a chequebook”.
… and the star that made him feel and “you’re only one duff question away from getting a right hook”.
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Thu, 02 Nov 2023 - 38min - 615 - The greatest guitarist & the strange tale of Mike Raven - plus a leaked Radio One memo!
We spin the reels of the rock and roll fruit machine this week and get the following pay-outs …
… the preposterous present they gave Bobby Charlton when he retired.
... “the leaning man from Alabam”.
… ‘Skinny Minnie Shimmy’ by Lattie Moore And The Emperors and other apparently fictitious rock and roll hits.
… a Radio One DJ who was also an actor, erotic sculptor, travel writer, sheep farmer, flamenco guitarist and ballet dancer. Why has no-one made a film of the life of Mike Raven?
… why Born To Run was “a quantum leap”, the record where Springsteen wanted “to sing like Roy Orbison and write like Bob Dylan on an album that sounded like it was produced by Phil Spector”.
… a leaked 1982 Radio One memo of ground rules for DJs! “Don’t resort to ‘common talk’ in a pathetic attempt at humour.” “You can say Cornflakes but not Shredded Wheat …”
… how rock is adopting the Gilbert & Sullivan business model.
… Richard Thompson, Steve Cropper, John Fahey, Hubert Sumlin … : who’s the greatest guitarist of all time?
… the story-spinning genius of John Prine.
… the afterlife of the Love Affair.
… Ernest ‘Boom’ Carter’s brief but marvellous moment of glory.
… and birthday guest Giles Fraser wonders at what point a band shouldn’t use their original name.
Rolling Stone’s top 250 guitarists …
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-guitarists-1234814010/nile-rodgers-5-1234814197/
The amazing story of Mike Raven …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Raven
Everybody’s in the Mood by Howlin’ Wolf …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV0gDlzEnYU
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Mon, 30 Oct 2023 - 44min - 614 - Pin-Ups’ 50th, Morrissey The Eternal Teenager and what the Stones should be writing songs about
Toothsome hors d’ouvres, mains and ‘items from the trolley’ on the rock and roll menu this week include …
… Bowie’s Pin-Ups v Ferry’s These Foolish Things: who won?
… the worst band name in history and why.
… the fan who hired a plane to fly a message past Morrissey’s record label.
… the Stones’ Hackney Diamonds: best album since Black And Blue or tedious riff-less dirge?
… why only solo acts can tell stories onstage.
… why the Dutch love the Byrds.
… things we never imagined 50 years ago.
… Spanky McFarlane, Gloria Salt … country music siren or twinkle-eyed PG Wodehouse dame?
… the two main topics the Stones write songs about.
… how modern fandom is expressed.
… who ever thought they’d hear Dylan say the word ‘Wikipedia’ onstage?
… and has anyone got a copy of ‘Darker Than Blue: Soul From Jamtown’ on Mick Hucknall’s Blood And Fire label? And who remembers the ‘Hard-Up Heroes’ album?
Plus cycling with an umbrella, Barbra Streisand’s autocue and birthday guest Cathal Chu on the best and worst onstage banter.
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Mon, 23 Oct 2023 - 53min - 613 - The “gangsterish” charm of Andrew Loog Oldham and Immediate Records, by Simon Spence
The godfather of British independent labels, Immediate, was started in 1965 by the Stones’ manager Andrew Oldham and Tony Calder, its winning slogan: “happy to be part of the industry of human happiness”. As Simon Spence correctly puts it, “it all got very messy”. Oldham tended to fall out with people and then threaten to kill them. Simon’s excellent book, ‘Immediate: the Rise And Fall of the UK’s First Independent Record Label’ has the details (he also co-authored Oldham’s two memoirs, ‘Stoned’ and ‘2Stoned’). Immediate has been a touchstone ever since and their roster included the Small Faces, PP Arnold, the Nice, the Who, Fleetwood Mac, Twinkle, Scott Walker and various others discussed here. Also includes …
… “no Andrew Oldham, no Rolling Stones.”
… the part played by Tony Hancock’s doctor.
… “if you didn’t want to be ripped off, why are you in the music business?”
… the range of Immediate’s catalogue from Nico and Rod Stewart to the Turtles and Jimmy Tarbuck.
… an advert for the Nice involving three assassinated politicians.
… the time Oldham left his hairdresser in charge of A&R.
… Don Arden, the Small Faces and £25,000 in a paper bag.
… a secretly recorded blues album and why Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page fell out.
… why Oldham wanted to poison the Nice and murder Amen Corner.
… invaluable advice from Phil Spector.
… and why Immediate finally fell apart.
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https://www.backstage-books.co.uk/
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Sat, 21 Oct 2023 - 41min - 612 - Denmark Street, London's Tin Pan Alley, where the Sex Pistols met Pink Floyd and a luverly bunch of coconuts, by Peter Watts
As it emerges from the upheaval of Cross Rail, music historian Peter Watts looks at this densely-packed thoroughfare between Charing Cross Road and Covent Garden, which started off selling sheet music, grew into the place where many writers sold their tunes for a few quid while a wise minority hung on and made fortunes, a street that continues to provide a home for music businesses to this day. Includes....
...the Victorian "rookeries" of St Giles
...how a coal mining accident made the street's first big hit
...the true meaning of the Old Grey Whistle Test
...when every office boy played the piano
...how the Beatles changed music publishing
...how the Rolling Stones made their first (and best ?) album
...how the Sex Pistols and the Stones made their first music yards from each other
...what exactly are they doing with Denmark Street today?
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Thu, 19 Oct 2023 - 27min - 611 - Madonna’s karaoke show, albums that sound their covers and whatever happened to protest music?
Spicy and nutritious items in the rock and roll bouillabaisse this week include …
… Roger Waters at the Palladium: a masterclass in how to insult an audience.
… “without Andrew Loog Oldham, the Stones would have been Manfred Mann.”
… the only rock star who can tell a story onstage.
… Nempnett Thrubwell, Hinton Blewett, Glaister Fagan … Leafy Somerset hamlet or venerable reggae dubmeister?
… the money Dave Grohl made from Nirvana (and it’s less than you’d imagine).
… why Barry McGuire’s Eve Of Destruction was so terrifying.
… please, someone, stage an exhibition of original paintings used on album sleeves!
… the rise and rise of the rock spectacle.
… Hogg, Fat Grapple, Makin’ Bacon? Real or fictitious pork-related acts from the Melody Maker Club Calendar 1971.
… has social media taken the place of protest music? Why has no-one made a statement the Israel/Hamas war?
… more smoking-themed album covers.
… what, in her darkest hour, Madonna must think about Taylor Swift’s movie triumph.
… and In The Court of the Crimson King and other albums that sound like their covers.
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Tue, 17 Oct 2023 - 54min - 610 - Jarvis v Jacko and why drummers are like goalkeepers. Let Pulp’s Nick Banks be your guide
Nick Banks - nephew of the great Gordon Banks – saw a note pinned by his favourite band to a wall in 1986, his Sliding Doors moment: ‘Pulp Want Drummer. Call Russell or Jarvis’. What happened next he records in his memoir ‘It Started There: From Punk To Pulp’. We talk to him about life in Sheffield in the ‘70s and ‘80 and why it took 15 long years for Pulp to crack it. Among the highlights …
… why punk rock was like “Harry Potter’s Sorting Hat”.
… what drummers bring to groups.
… Pulp’s stage act in 1982 – “trombones, backing singers, orange paper fish”.
… being denied a Number One by Robson & Jerome.
… the band’s response to Jarvis Cocker’s brave new direction – “Barry White meets the Pet Shop Boys”.
… what happened at the BRITS and who’s to blame.
… real life in what promised to be “the gilded palace of stardom with limousines and dancing girls”.
… the moment that caused “the raised eyebrows of disdain” in the Pulp story.
… and his first sighting of “that mesmerising, bespectacled, lanky streak of piss”.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/So-Started-There-Punk-Pulp/dp/1915841100
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Thu, 12 Oct 2023 - 39min - 609 - Smoking on album sleeves, Smash Hits The Musical and records you own but have never played
Engaging blips on the rock and roll radar this week include:-
… Iron Maiden album title or novel by Jeffrey Archer?
… selling Ringo’s ashtray.
… the Blood Doner: the Hancock script that keeps on giving.
… “Terrible album title. Terrible album cover, too.” The start of Rolling Stone’s review of which immortal record?
… how come acting runs in families but writing and music don’t?
… Smash Hits: the Musical - you heard it here first. And why the Live Aid musical will work.
… A Salty Dog, Shades, Smokin’ OP’s – album sleeves based on fag packets.
… the curious tale of the Equinox and the imposters on their album cover.
… which pop stars are in the Barbie doll range?
… why smoking is part of the DNA of rock and roll. And who smoked what? Bob Hope (Chesterfield), Lennon (Woodbines), Bowie (Gauloises) …
… the significance of Weaver D’s Delicious Fine Foods of Atlanta, Georgia.
… and musicians who outsold their famous parents.
Plus birthday guests: Matthew Elliott on records you own but have never played, and Phil Turner “the Elton John album so bad it put me off him for 20 years.”
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Mon, 09 Oct 2023 - 1h 00min - 608 - Echo & the Bunnymen, why the rock press were “divs” and the secret of good hair by Will Sergeant
Will Sergeant’s just put out the second volume of his memoirs, both of them Sunday Times best-sellers, Echoes and the first edition, Bunnyman. Here he revisits the Liverpool of the ‘60s and ‘70s in extraordinary detail - the clothes, the records, the gangs, the school days, the early shows he saw - and the many reasons he wanted to form a band. On the agenda …
… ‘rockist’ cliches the Bunnymen detested.
… why America loved early ‘80s British groups.
… the powerful appeal of Jethro Tull, Status Quo, Slade, Roxy Music, the Sensational Alex Harvey Band and rock and roll theatre.
… clothes bought from NME small ads in the ‘70s.
… absurd rivalries with Simple Minds and the Jesus & Mary Chain.
… fond memories of David Thomas of Pere Ubu smashing a pig iron spike with a lump hammer.
… the ‘Porcupine’ cover shoot in Iceland.
… the charisma of the teenage Mac McCulloch.
… bands that borrowed from the Bunnymen.
… why the Ramones were “Status Quo with drainpipes”.
… and the magic ingredient that held Mac’s hair aloft.
Order Bunnyman here …
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bunnyman-Memoir-Sunday-Times-bestseller/dp/1472135032
And Echoes here …
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Echoes-memoir-continued/dp/1408719304
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Sun, 08 Oct 2023 - 43min - 607 - An Insider’s Guide To Goth by Cathi Unsworth (via Cruella De Vil and the Cure)
Crime novelist Cathi Unsworth turned Goth in her teens in rural Norfolk fired by a cocktail of Dennis Wheatley, the Damned on the Peel show and the dark arts of the York Festival “Gothtopia” bill in 1984. She devoted long hours to trying to construct Robert Smith’s “tarantula hair” and acquiring black lace garmentry. Something about its music and folklore chimed with a life marooned in the middle of an East Anglian beanfield pondering tales of Shuck, the fabled fire-eyed ghostly hound alleged to roam the neighbourhood at night. We talked to her about her marvellous ‘Season of the Witch: the Book of Goth’ for a live podcast recorded at London’s 21Soho on 25 September, a very funny and wide-ranging exchange that included …
… why Goth is like no other tribe: you never make a full recovery – or ever want to.
… the part played in its family tree by Aleister Crowley, Aubrey Beardsley, the Brontes, Joy Division, Magazine, the Cramps, Jim Morrison and Bobby Gentry.
… why Leeds became one of Goth’s key spiritual centres.
… the shocking spectacle of Dave Vanian in full Stygian rig in broad daylight.
… “the three Goth Ians” - Astbury, Curtis, McCulloch.
… the significance of Cabaret and A Clockwork Orange.
... why Goths feel obliged to dress the part.
… the romantic allure of Robert Smith against that of Nick Cave.
… the curious link between Siouxsie and Margaret Thatcher.
… and how Goth keeps finding new recruits.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Season-Witch-Book-Cathi-Unsworth/dp/1788706242
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Wed, 04 Oct 2023 - 36min - 606 - Nick Drake – a whole new perspective by Richard Morton Jack
Richard Morton Jack interviewed over 200 people when assembling what’s unquestionably the best, most colourful, comprehensive, revealing and accurate portrait of Nick Drake ever published. We talked to him about ‘Nick Drake: The Life’ at a live podcast recording at 21Soho on September 25 and explored various remote corners of this sad, surprising and eternally gripping story, among them ….
… the fate of the tape of the 20-year old Drake playing for the Stones in Morocco in 1969.
… what the press and public made of Five Leaves Left, Bryter Layer and Pink Moon when released and Joe Boyd’s reaction to their eventual success.
… the early school days of the head boy who won a cup for “General Efficiency”.
… his obsession with Francoise Hardy and the disastrous day he met her.
… the peaks and troughs of his live performances including the time he played an event for a Birmingham rugby team supporting Genesis (required to play the Hokey-Cokey).
… Kirstie Clegg, his on-off girlfriend from 1969.
… Drake’s uncelebrated fondness for TV sitcoms and Benny Hill.
… Peter Paul And Mary and other unlikely staples of his early repertoire.
… and the events that helped re-boot his legacy.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nick-Drake-Richard-Morton-Jack/dp/1529308089
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Tue, 03 Oct 2023 - 37min - 605 - Gary Numan, unlikely sex symbols and U2’s £1,000 night in the desert
Spice-filled items tossed into the conversational cooking-pot this week include:-
… our charming encounter with Gary Numan, possibly the world’s most contented man.
… the next step in the age of spectacle: the sensory bombardment of U2’s shows at the Las Vegas Sphere and the crippling cost of experiencing it.
… Taylor Swift’s genius for publicity and the subtle art of connecting with “Joe Six-Pack”.
… the shockingly unwise and unfathomable pronouncements of Roger Waters and how his fall-out with David Gilmour makes Lennon’s ‘How Do You Sleep?’ seem like a love letter.
… pop stars and their hair transplants.
… what do bands think of their tribute acts?
.. the ‘Austin Powers’ albums of David McCallum, a star so huge he needed a police motorcade.
… Hugh Laurie, James Gandolfini, Carrie Fisher, Colin Firth, Felicity Kendal and others whose TV roles made them sex symbols.
… and do rock stars really change people’s political views?
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Mon, 02 Oct 2023 - 54min - 604 - Does Gary Numan regret throwing the glo-stick that hit David Bowie?
Gary Numan is about to set out on a UK acoustic tour, some of it in churches and one date in a cathedral. He talks here - from the Scottish estate house he’s just bought – about some of the first shows he saw and what he’s learnt about live performance. This includes ...
… the peculiar effect of seeing Nazareth at the Rainbow in 1973.
… the fate of the £5 note he’d asked Queen to autograph.
… why he doesn’t talk onstage, and why that’s about to change.
… what musicians take for granted.
… the church that insisted on his lyrics before they let him perform there.
… what happened when he dodged the security for Bowie at Wembley Arena.
.. what’s involved in creating a “relentless” live act.
… a fondness for the Monkees and Marc Bolan and the secret of his 1981 Bogart hat.
Gary Numan’s tour dates here ..
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Sun, 01 Oct 2023 - 26min - 603 - Why a sumptuous new book about the Island label is “like entering the record shop of your dreams”.
Neil Storey is an old pal from our magazine days who worked in the press office at Island. He looked after U2, Bob Marley, Steel Pulse, the B-52’s and many others. About 15 years ago he began the mammoth task of compiling a series of books telling the story of virtually every record the label released in its pioneering history, tracking down and talking to all those involved - musicians, producers, designers, photographers, label staff – and collecting old music press ads and ephemera from the time. The book’s almost a foot square so LP sleeves can be reproduced ‘actual size’. The first volume is just out, The Island Book Of Records 1959-1968, a thing of very great beauty. As David says, “it’s like entering the record shop of your dreams.” We talked to Neil at his home in France about this and much else besides …
… Chris Blackwell’s involvement in the making of Dr No and the single Jamaican beach shot that told them they had a hit movie.
… the album they released that no-one involved could remember.
… Shotgun Wedding by Roy ‘C’, Byron Lee and the Dragonaires, Lance Hayward, Millie Small’s ‘My Boy Lollipop’ …
… the letter Blackwell sent to the workshy Spooky Tooth with threats of wage deductions.
… the lucrative ascent of Jethro Tull.
… the little-known compilations of Rugby songs, ‘Bawdy British Ballads’ and risqué adult comedy that “saved the label’s bacon” in the mid-‘60s.
… the time Neil stumbled across Traffic’s fabled Aston Tirrold cottage on a school camping trip.
… the highly collectable “Birth of Ska’ album that was never released.
… one immortal week at the Marquee Club.
… and why Island were banned for Olympic Studios.
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Wed, 27 Sep 2023 - 39min - 602 - Mojo’s 30th birthday plus bands whose t-shirts you’d wear even if you didn’t have any of their records
Both of us were involved in the launch of Mojo 30 years ago in the autumn of 1993 and we dug out our copies of the first issue. As editor Paul Du Noyer said on page 3, it was “our confirmed intention to pitch a wang-dang-doodle – all night long, if necessary.” The cover story was about a sequence from Eat The Document, the film by DA Pennebaker of Bob Dylan’s ’66 tour that was never released and could only be seen on bootleg VHS cassettes. And this bit was so rare and controversial it had even been deleted from most of the bootlegs - none more niche! – and featured Dylan and John Lennon’s stoned ramblings in a black cab after Bob had played the Albert Hall in May ‘66. The piece by Richard Williams also focused on 10 days in the life of Dylan and the Beatles at the time, the kind of specific, deep-end trawl that helped start a whole new wing of rock book publishing. You can see the seeds of the emerging ‘heritage rock’ in that first edition too. Mojo have a wonderful 30th anniversary issue out now, by the way.
Further logs on this week’s conversational fire include …
.. why people buy ‘vinyls’ when they don’t own a record player.
… David’s story about the HMV security guard who built a shrine to James Last.
… the brilliant – and fiercely competitive - mixtapes made and played in music magazines offices.
... the dreadful allegations about Russell Brand and the media rush to cut ties with him.
… the band t-shirt favoured by well-heeled businessmen to signify they were once a ‘wild card’.
… the Clones Roses, A Band Called Malice … the Dutiful South?
… mentioned in despatches: Cat Mother and The All Night Newsboys.
… and birthday guest Steve Way on the avenues of discovery encouraged by his love of Paul Weller (including the ruinous pursuit of being a Blue Note completist).
Ps Dizzying pop facts: go back 30 years from the launch of Mojo and it’s ‘I Want To Hold Your Hand’. There are copies of that first issue on eBay for £44.99 amazingly.
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 - 54min - 601 - The “unknown woman” in McCartney’s photos, the Human League and a new U2 game
This week’s pod was recorded just after we saw ‘Paul McCartney Photographs 1963-64: Eyes of the Storm’ at London’s National Portrait Gallery, a warm and winning show that starts with him as a wide-eyed fan trying to take pictures of his heroes and soon switches to his shots of the whole world trying to photograph him. We talk about his pictures of French jazzers, Paris boulevards, backstage rooms at TV shows, models, paparazzi, light entertainment stars, screaming fans, American police guns, Miami beaches, billboards, views from plane windows, hotel rooms, cocktails and a New York theatre showing “Christine Keeler Goes Nudist plus Playgirls”. And wonder how it feels to discover 60 years later you had your photo taken by a Beatle.
PLUS …
… the top-flight rock and roll star we passed in Soho.
… the record David tries every year to force himself to like.
… the wonderful Geoff Davies of Probe Records, the much-loved Liverpool figurehead who signed the Farm and Half Man Half Biscuit.
… bands who’ve had the most members.
… ‘Norman Wisdom, Johnny, Joey, Dee Dee, good times”. What’s not to love about the Human League’s Dare?
… the new U2 parlour game.
… why CDs sales are on the up.
… and what the police would know about you if they found your phone.
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Mon, 18 Sep 2023 - 39min - 600 - Pulitzer Prize winner David Remnick takes the long view of Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, Macca and more
David Remnick got his Pulitzer for his reporting on Russia. These days he edits The New Yorker, in which capacity he has had close encounters with some of music’s legends during their final acts, some of which is gathered in “Holding The Note”, a collection of his writings on music. From his ill-lit Manhattan eyrie he talks to David Hepworth of many matters, including:
….what was in the handbag which remained on the piano during Aretha Franklin shows
….what it was like being on the receiving end of an almighty dressing-down from the elderly Leonard Cohen
….how Bruce Springsteen learned nothing at school but has picked up a great deal since
….how Bob Dylan reckons he’s in a “post-interview” phase of life - or is he?
….how his father took him to see Louis Armstrong and Ella Fitzgerald and he has taken his own kids to see Radiohead
….how Keith Richards found a ghost writer who could throw his voice
….what was really the last good Stones album.
…why you should never try to get rock stars to like you.
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Sun, 17 Sep 2023 - 29min - 599 - The Stones return, rock’n’roll marriages and Freddie’s 50 kimonos
Recorded together in Mark Ellen’s attic! Among the conversational footballs booted round the park this week you’ll find:-
… Freddie’s “exquisite clutter”: would YOU buy one of his bonzai plant-holders, his catsuit with ballet shoes and a $0.5m silver bangle?
… when did the story change from “the Stones are old, knackered and ought to give up!” to “the Stones are old, brilliant and should carry on forever!”?
... do all enduring legacies need an element of tragedy?
… who calls the Ezra Collective “a jazz band”?
… who’s been married the longest … Bono, Alice Cooper or Peter Noone from Herman’s Hermits?
… 1984 was the annus mirabilis of the album? Birthday guest Matthew North has the records to prove it.
… the perils of celebrities chairing press conferences (QED Jimmy Fallon).
... how they’ve only gone and wrecked the Rugby World Cup anthems.
… and useful phrases to deploy when you didn’t much care for your mate’s band but don’t want to hurt their feelings – eg You’ve done it again! Only YOU could have put in a show like that! You took it to a whole new level!
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Tue, 12 Sep 2023 - 46min - 598 - Plaid shirts? Brown ale? A smoke-stained pub rock special with Simon Matthews
Fired by the rock and roll revival of 1970 and a post-Easy Rider taste for American music, a circuit of some 35 London pubs filled with bands playing fizzing, small-scale shows that never sounded quite the same on record, bands whose moment in the sun was ultimately wrecked by the arrival of punk rock. This pod – and Simon’s book ‘Before It Went Rotten: the Music That Rocked London Pubs 1972-1976’ – raises a dimple jug to some of its forgotten heroes including Meal Ticket, Roogalator, Ducks Deluxe, the Winkies and the Kursaal Flyers. Be honest, when did YOU last hear mention of the Count Bishops or GT Moore & the Reggae Guitars? So what was it about Southend? How did Eggs Over Easy play such a pivotal role in it all? And Creedence Clearwater Revival? And Dave Edmunds? Why was this the perfect launchpad for Ian Dury? And what was the final nail in the pub rock coffin?
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Wed, 06 Sep 2023 - 31min - 597 - What Kevin Armstrong learnt as the sideman for Bowie, McCartney, Morrissey, Sinead and Iggy Pop
Kevin Armstrong was the guitarist in the band David Bowie asked him to assemble for Live Aid and toured and recorded with him many times. Playing the guitar intro to Rebel Rebel in a stadium, he says, is “like lighting a match”. Start the Passenger with Iggy Pop and you’re greeted with “a great mass of love”. His memoir, Absolute Beginner, is “a window onto the high table of rock and roll” and full of insights into life in studios and on the road and the fathomless levels of diplomacy often required to collaborate. This entertaining pod expands upon …
… why he turned down the offer to join the Smiths.
… how Jim Osterberg transforms himself into Iggy Pop.
… the Sinead O’Connor’s tour manager’s trick to speed the band through security.
… the song Bowie dropped from the Live Aid set.
… why Michael Hutchence is “terrified of small crowds”.
… Bowie’s ex-Navy Seal minder and the old decoys-under-blankets ruse.
… why Morrissey is “thin-skinned”.
… and the eternal curse of “Imposter Syndrome”.
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Tue, 05 Sep 2023 - 30min - 596 - Which acts will “go down in history” and what matters more than their music?
We dipped the shrimping net of curiosity in the rock and roll rockpool this week and transferred the following items to the podcast bucket …
… who now regrets being the “little tyrant” that broke up their band 30 years ago?
… who was the real Bungalow Bill and how did the song about him change his life?
… Bing Crosby and Paul Whiteman are almost forgotten. Are the Doors and the Kinks heading the same way?
… the unique and extraordinary Bill Wyman, “more a witness to the Rolling Stones than a member”, plus Nellcôte and the Birds’ Custard.
… is the ice finally melting in the Talking Heads camp?
… an everyday tale of Culture’s “Two Sevens Clash” on the mean streets of North London’s garden suburbs.
… was Lennon v the Maharishi an early example of “career cancelling”?
… is Life During Wartime from Stop Making Sense the greatest live performance ever filmed?
… the curse of the Budokan.
… and birthday guests Avi Chaudhuri and Jelltex (who strongly recommends The Mood Elevator's second album, Married Alive).
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Sun, 03 Sep 2023 - 51min - 595 - Bob Dylan - why he signs autographs left-handed and other mysteries solved by Ray Padgett
Ray Padgett lives in Vermont, first discovered Dylan when he was 16 in the 21st Century and was fascinated and besotted, later launching the newsletter ‘Flagging Down the Double E’s’ and now publishing the enthralling ‘Pledging My Time’, a collection of his interviews with over 40 people who’ve worked, performed and recorded with the inscrutable old rogue. Both the book and this fast-moving, whip-smart and very funny conversation are revelatory and highly recommended, the podcast shedding light on …
… the daily life of Bob Dylan – eg the piles of gifts he routinely receives and the security men who scour his vacated hotel rooms to remove anything that could be nicked and put on eBay.
… the only friend who seemed to co-exist with him on “an equal footing”.
... an eye-witness account of his first performance (aged 13) at a Jewish summer camp in Minnesota.
… the childhood friend who owned a fish business in Duluth and ended up running the Rolling Thunder Revue - as Dylan enigmatically put it, “if you can sell fish, you can sell tickets”.
... the time he went to a business conference and nobody recognised him.
… how he tells musicians to “never play the same thing twice”.
… the chance meeting with Scarlet Rivera – two hours later she was onstage as “my violinist” with Dylan and Muddy Waters.
… multiple examples of his love of spontaneity and the extraordinary way he hires musicians.
… a rare moment when his career seemed to stall.
… and honourable mentions of Richard Thompson, Paul Stookey, Jim Keltner, Stan Lynch and Jeff Bridges.
Pledging My Time …
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pledging-My-Time-Conversations-Members/dp/B0C6VRBZQC
Flagging Down the Double E’s newsletter …
https://dylanlive.substack.com/about
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Sat, 02 Sep 2023 - 25min - 594 - Achtung Baby, rock fantasy friends and the band that inspired the Bad News Tour
Its tyres pumped, its engine tuned, its air-con still on the blink, the rock and roll charabanc trundles off on its circuit which, this week, makes the following stops …
… the singer who sold vials of her tears as part of a merchandise range.
… when Billy Bragg entered a Paul Simon lyric in his school poetry contest and only got 7 out of 10.
… why our favourite music still tends to be the stuff we heard in our teens.
… how Bill Graham’s “Electric Ballroom Experience” changed the landscape – “we were out there with no compass”.
… former Kursaal Flyers drummer Will Birch re-watches their ’76 TV film documentary: “There are only two good things about Scotland - the whisky and the road out of there.” “Five autographs? Wasn’t like this at the Carnegie Hall!”
… “creamy mousse with ripe stone fruits, bright citrus and a biscuity length”: home-brewing with Alex James.
… and how Wreckless Eric’s made a living for 46 years out of just one song.
That Bill Graham interview …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVeuDS0n3XI
Melvyn Bragg introduces the Kursaal Flyers on the BBC’s 2nd House in 1976 …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQKNeWlQzdI&t=11s
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Tue, 29 Aug 2023 - 47min - 593 - Robbie Robertson, Billy Connolly, Bridge Over Troubled Water and the “fake history” of Punk
Even podcasts take “annual leave” but we’re back and once again propelling the two-man Pedalo of Enquiry down the rock and roll seafront stopping off at sundry wave-rippled spots, among them …
… what Chuck Berry said about the Clash.
… a band whose keyboard player is the King’s second cousin.
… the song Art Garfunkel sang for years without realising it was about him.
… Billy Connolly’s bicycle gag and other things you couldn’t get away with now.
… Ian Hunter remembering “that little bloke from Beckenham”.
… why Punk was like a religious movement. Guest Paul Burke claims it was a “passing fad and its over-cooked legacy was fashioned by the middle-class media”.
… the Shakespearian echoes of ‘The Boxer’.
… what Bowie would have done if the Laughing Gnome had been a hit.
… how Robbie Robertson lived the life Bob Dylan claimed to have lived and never recaptured the spirit of the first two Band albums.
… Earl Shilton, Norbert Putnam … American session player or remote place in Leicestershire?
… lost TV documentaries about Gene Vincent and the Global Village Trucking Company.
That Global Village Trucking Company doc …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SNrBey7yQI
Punk’s fake history, Spectator column by Paul Burke …
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/punks-fake-history/
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Mon, 21 Aug 2023 - 1h 03min - 592 - Sinead O’Connor, that Morrissey outburst, over-long films and the pitiful plight of roadies
The mellifluous melody and soaring counterpoint of this week’s podcast were comprised of the following notes …
… Morrissey’s broadside on the treatment of Sinead O’Connor – and her electrifying moment at Dylan’s 30th Anniversary tribute two weeks after she’d torn up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live.
… two unsettling events in the later life of Randy Meisner.
… Adele revives the old Las Vegas business model (at about £8m a night).
… the eternal mystery of Bob Dylan’s motorcycle crash and his Shea Stadium and Russian shows that never happened.
… how long news took to travel: the Battle of Waterloo (three days), the death of Jim Morrison (two weeks).
… Oppenheimer and why so many films are so long.
… Things It’s Almost Impossible To Accept, No 97: Mick Jagger is 80!
… in 2006 BBC viewers voted Morrissey second in a Greatest Living British Icons poll (Sir David Attenborough was first, McCartney third). Where would he be if they ran they voted tomorrow?
… that photo of Pulp and their 57-strong entourage.
… the time the Troggs turned psychedelic.
… the endless value of the mantra “never apologise, never explain”.
… TV clips from the Lost World of Rock And Roll – Hush tour Australia in 1997 (and pay their road crew $1 an hour);
Quintessence in 1970, ‘the sound of Notting Hill Gate’.
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Clips:-
Sinead O’Connor at Dylan’s 30th anniversary concert two weeks after she tore up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKeJifOXAnA
Glam-rock roadhogs Hush in 1977 …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Iyytr1AJ4
Getting It Straight In Notting Hill Gate …
https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-getting-it-straight-in-notting-hill-gate-1970-online
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Mon, 31 Jul 2023 - 53min - 591 - Tales of Hipgnosis sleeves (and the new film) and why the world needs Steely Dan more than ever
Blips on the rock and roll radar this week include …
… Things You No Longer See, No 97: the celebrity airport arrival shot.
.. do we, in all honesty, need Roger Waters’ re-interpretation of the Dark Side Of The Moon for it is upon us on October 6?
… is there really an Edinburgh Fringe show called ‘Bald Man Sings Rihanna”, ‘A Shark Ate My Penis’ or ‘In The Court Of The Crimson Ting: Prog Rock in A Reggae Style’?
… a 1976 clip of Elton John as the jobbing pianist on the Morecambe & Wise Show. “Elton John? Sounds like an exit on the motorway.
… the poignant story of 1968’s lost psych-rock voyagers the Mike Stuart Span and what happened when they became Leviathan.
… the time Hipgnosis put a sheep on a psychiatrists’ couch in the Hawaiian surf and landed a chopper in the Alps to photograph a statue.
… the Scottish stately pile Bob Dylan’s just put on the market.
.. and – with birthday guest Patrick Butler - six theories as to why Steely Dan are hipper now than ever.
The Mike Stuart Span TV clip …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufD0e8tE-UY
Elton with Eric & Ernie …
https://twitter.com/eric_ernie_col/status/1673207024702636033
Roger Waters’ Money redux …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUVmeYgo1Iw
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Mon, 24 Jul 2023 - 1h 15min - 590 - PP Arnold remembers life in the Ike & Tina Turner Revue aged 17
Pat “PP” Arnold was hired as an Ikette by Ike & Tina’s Revue in 1965 and set off a 2,000 mile tour of America, coming to London a year later to support the Rolling Stones. Offered a record deal by Andrew Oldham, she lived in England for many years becoming “the First Lady Of Immediate” with a wide circle of friends and collaborators including the Small Faces, Cat Stevens, Hendrix, Rod Stewart, Nick Drake and the Bee Gees, all recorded in her memoir 'Soul Survivor'. Here she looks back at:-
… the rigours of the Ike & Tina tours where she was once fined $50 for crying onstage.
… the contrast between “the Chiltin’ Circuit and the Albert Hall.
... supporting the Stones in ’66 and her romance with Mick Jagger “who wanted to walk and talk like a black man”. She taught him how to do the Pony and the Mashed Potato.
… the success of The First Cut Is The Deepest.
… her unique American take on the Swinging London of the mid-‘60s and quaint English expressions like “taking the piss”, and how an “unsophisticated” girl from the Watts district of Los Angeles saw the bohemian world (eg Chelsea restaurants where you got three sets of cutlery).
… her time with “my brothers” the Small Faces who were “a lot more ghetto than the Stones”.
… and a mention of recent collaborations with Paul Weller and Ocean Colour Scene.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Soul-Survivor-Autobiography-P-P-Arnold/dp/1788705785
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Wed, 19 Jul 2023 - 35min - 589 - The things Bruce and Bing have in common and the adventures of Punch in 1976 clubland
As Mark Ellen had taken his shrimping net to the coast Alex Gold steps into the breach to talk to David Hepworth about
….how solo acts like Bing Crosby and Bruce Springsteen get to play the common man in a way they never could if they were in a band
….the extraordinary sight and sound of the band called Punch trying to make their name on “Opportunity Knocks” in the vanished land of 1976
….what to do with your wedding ring if you find yourself on the world’s largest cruise liner
….Cat Stevens’ “Father And Son” and a few less exalted things that Dads say.
Don’t miss the amazing Punch doc
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Mon, 17 Jul 2023 - 45min - 588 - Nick Drake - and what Richard Morton Jack learnt from 200 people who knew him
In his new biography “Nick Drake: The Life”, Richard Morton Jack set out to correct the misconceptions spread by magazines and former biographies, some ending up on Wikipedia. This involved talking to as many people as he could track down who’d met and remembered him, from key players like Joe Boyd, Francoise Hardy and Drake’s sister Gabrielle to the girl who played the cello on ‘Cello Song and a childhood friend who wrote a poem about him in the school magazine. The result is, by some margin, the clearest and most comprehensive picture of him to date, far more accelerated and self-promotional in the early days than we’d been lead to believe – “not just sitting in his ivory tower singing to the moon” – though it’s still hard to think of a musician worse equipped for the rigours of the music business and having, as Richard perfectly puts it, “a personality fundamentally ill-suited to display”. This covers a wide landscape from his lack of support (no real manager, no agent, no proper PR), the unusual and often disastrous gigs he played, the luckless timing of his record releases (Five Leaves Left out the day Brian Jones died), the mysteries of his love life, his time with John Cale, playing for Mick Jagger in Marrakesh, an awkward Parisian dinner with Francoise Hardy and his eventual decline and withdrawal from the outside world. It’s also a charming portrait of what real life was like in the late ‘60s when evenings revolved around a record deck, overflowing ashtrays and games of Monopoly.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nick-Drake-Richard-Morton-Jack/dp/1529308089
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Fri, 14 Jul 2023 - 49min - 587 - Cathi Unsworth was a teenage goth. Think “Robert Smith’s tarantula hair” and “cider like turps”
Growing up in remote rural Norfolk, crime writer Cathi Unsworth had a Goth conversion, a condition from which, she happily admits, you never fully recover. And never want to. She discovered Dennis Wheatley’s ‘To The Devil A Daughter’, heard Siouxsie & the Banshees on the Peel Show and saw a picture of Robert Smith in a magazine which she stuck by her bedroom mirror to help her construct his spectacular dishevelment. She’s just published ‘Season Of The Witch: the Book of Goth’, a highly entertaining account of the dark side of rock starting out with the Brontes, Edgar Allan Poe and Aubrey Beardsley and heading, via Jim Morrison, Jacques Brel and Nico, to Joy Division, the Cure and the Sisters of Mercy. This is a very funny and self-mocking pod in which you’ll find the following …
… why Yorkshire is “Goth’s Own Country”.
… the secret ingredient in Mac McCulloch’s vertical hair.
… Nick Cave - “the Dark Lord of Goth Music” (©️ the Daily Mail) – at the Coronation.
… Lee Hazlewood’s advice to Nancy Sinatra when recording Goth staple These Boots Are Made For Walking.
… “changing into fishnet tights in the bogs at school”, rival pop gangs, mooching about in graveyards and a mate “who used to sit up trees reading Dennis Wheatley and summoning Satan”.
.. the joy of crimpers and backcombing.
… “spreading the virus” at the Batcave.
… the inventor of the term Goth and the key Gothmothers and Gothfathers.
… local folklore about hellhounds in Norfolk.
… her first gig, the York Rock Festival in 1984 featuring the Bunnymen, Sisters of Mercy, Spear of Destiny and the Redskins: “Gothtopia”!
… “Beer Girls and Beer Boys” and why it was best to avoid them.
… dark Satanic mills.
… and the greatest Goth record ever made.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Season-Witch-Book-Cathi-Unsworth/dp/1788706242
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Thu, 13 Jul 2023 - 33min - 586 - Wham!, Rock Follies and lost ‘70s prog foot-soldiers Renia – we will remember them!
Filling the spinnaker of enquiry on the careering, two-mast schooner of rock and roll this week you will find …
… the prog drummer who made a fortune.
... did Brian Wilson bring a horse into a recording studio? Or write a symphony for drums? Or have an idea involving a hen in tennis shoes?
… why the New York Times review of the new Wham! documentary is ridiculous and wrong.
... the eternal allure of The Larry Sanders Show – “Madam, I killed a man like you in Korea!”
… the curse of identity journalism.
… the most influential British DJ of all time.
… Kenneth Tynan’s exquisite profile of Johnny Carson in the New Yorker and the dark art of being a TV chat show producer.
… the mathematical certainty that every review you ever write will eventually resurface. “Nothing will be forgotten - the afterlife is always longer than the first flush of success.”
… was there ever a briefer ‘fashionable’ moment than that of Guns N’ Roses?
… the great new expression for being drunk – “overserved”.
Watch that deathless Renia clip here …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv0VyHHEj2s&t=11s
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Mon, 10 Jul 2023 - 49min - 585 - Cocteau Twins song or Farrow & Ball paint colour? plus the day Beatlemania began
This week we paddle the two-man kayak of curiosity across the rock and roll seafront and make a few stops on the way, among them …
… “the future is always in the past”.
… the pure theatre of the E Street Band and its cast of characters – “our lives are repaired by the fact that they’re still together”.
… the growing appeal of Country & Western - and even “shronking” jazz – as you get older.
… Bless the Barn, Featherwash and Franny Wisp, Portlandia’s low-volume crowd-pleasers.
… the ‘Barry’ TV series (starring Bill Hader): that rare beast, a contract killer who’s a nice bloke.
… the 60th anniversary of the recording of She Loves You, why engineer Norman Smith predicted a flop and the fan break-in at Abbey Road that energised the session.
… is the success of Nick Drake partly an antidote to the age of technology?
… how our concept of ‘old’ has changed: McCartney at Live Aid was a coffin-dodging 43, same age as Kelis at Glastonbury.
… is cricket now the drunkest spectator sport? And which is the greater agony, seeing England doing badly when you’re there or watching at home with the commentary?
… and the Elton John Band have been together 53 years – but that’s only six years longer than Madness.
… plus birthday guests Andrew Stocks and Patrick Cleasby and a roll-call of new patreon supporters.
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Mon, 03 Jul 2023 - 52min - 584 - Grotesque/brilliant sleeves plus does upping the price make a ticket more desirable?
Sizzling hot topics patted back and forth across the ping-pong net of conversation this week include …
… the republishing of Giles Smith’s Lost In Music, one of the funniest books ever written about our real life relationship with pop stars, records and being in bands. Giles – and Nick Hornby – kick-started a whole new literary vogue.
… has Cate Blanchett won Glastonbury?
… why do we update book jackets but never change a record cover?
… how the Stones’ Steel Wheels tour changed the gig economy.
… the Stackwaddy game: song titles - George Formby or Frank Zappa?
… how gigs became a status symbol and tickets a statement purchase.
... did a record sleeve ever put you off buying the album?
… what are YOU going to do with your vinyl collection? Original new “estate plans” considered.
… amusing things said by George Melly (and who was Mucky Alice?).
… Recession? What recession? 650,000 people bought arena/stadium tickets in London last weekend.
Plus Toe Fat, Blind Faith, “the Larynx on Legs”, author Giles Smith and birthday guests Blaine Allen and Richard Lewis.
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Tue, 27 Jun 2023 - 1h 00min - 583 - Harvey Lisberg – managing 10cc, meeting Elvis and “Peter Noone’s extra tooth”
Aged 21 in 1963, Harvey Lisberg wanted to be the next Brian Epstein and ended up managing Herman’s Hermits and 10cc, among others, before relaunching the snooker stars Jimmy White and Hurricane Higgins. We thoroughly recommend his just-published memoir ‘I’m Into Something Good’ and this wide-ranging encounter takes in …
... the unique division of labour in 10cc and the magnificently doomed invention of ‘the Gizmo’.
… the perils of $100,000’s credit in Las Vegas casinos.
… life for the wives of rock stars “in love with music”.
… his friendship with Colonel Tom Parker and a day spent with Elvis in Honolulu.
… a prickly relationship with Mickie Most.
… why America fell in love with Peter Noone.
… Herman’s Hermits’ US tours with the Stones and the Who.
… and how he changed the snooker world by remodelling the “Artful Dodger” Jimmy White.
Buy Harvey’s memoir here …
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Im-Into-Something-Good-Managing-ebook/dp/B0BSHGRN5V
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Fri, 23 Jun 2023 - 32min - 582 - Record shops in movies and what Glenda Jackson did that no other actor ever dared try
This week’s pod veers off the conversational highway to break out its picnic hamper at the following leafy locations ….
… the Stackwaddy game: metal band or clawed demon from Dante’s Inferno?
… when bands stopped being good-looking.
… Paul Simon’s Seven Psalms: how long can you give a record before it clicks?
… Tony ‘TS’ McPhee of the Groundhogs (RIP) and the great British blues underground: cue the scent of damp greatcoats.
… does anything capture the time better than a record shop in a movie?
… the hard-fought life of Glenda Jackson plus “All men are fools and what makes them so is having beauty like what I have got”.
… eternally recommended: the crestfallen, poignant, melancholy world of the Fountains of Wayne.
… the moment in A Clockwork Orange that gave us Heaven 17 and Fuzzy Warbles.
… streaming services are now editing the movies they carry (eg the French Connection): Doesn’t this infantilize the audience?
… We Are Family. Are Ringo Starr and Joe Walsh related? Is Suzi Quatro Sherilyn Fenn’s aunt?
… a unique literary double-act: Robert Caro and the late Bob Gottlieb.
… how subtitles change the way we watch.
… Paul McCartney, consummate press-wrangler.
… and the lost appeal of late-night movie screenings.
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Wed, 21 Jun 2023 - 58min - 581 - Revenge songs, Nick Drake and that sorry tale about Primal Scream
The super-trouper of gentle enquiry alights this week upon …
… why bands are at their biggest when they’re over the hill.
… Fats Waller v Morrissey song titles: can YOU tell your Waller from your Wallower?
… how could Dylan have written Queen Jane Approximately aged only 24?
… why you should hear Pieces Of Treasure by Rickie Lee Jones, particularly the track All The Way.
… the social media bin-fire that’s shredding the reputation of Bobby Gillespie and how Twitter loves a character assassination - “Pound shop Mick Jagger! Always a charlatan!”
… was anyone worse equipped for the rigours of the pop circus than Nick Drake?
… “big” 20-album record collections, board games and no telly: fond memories of real life in late ‘60s London.
… Richard Thompson and Nick Drake’s painfully awkward tube journey.
… what risible sum Astrud Gilberto was paid for The Girl From Ipanema.
… and why Springsteen was called “the Boss”.
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Sun, 18 Jun 2023 - 47min - 580 - Word In The Park 2023 #4 – Clare Grogan's adventures in TV, film and music
Forty years ago Clare Grogan was on the cover of Smash Hits yet again and was the fourth guest at our garden party on June 3. Here she remembers the key events that have happened since which include meeting Bill Forsyth and the success of Gregory’s Girl (and why she only saw it for the first time recently), touring with Siouxsie & the Banshees when still at school, life as a pop star in the golden age, being Kristine Kochanski in Red Dwarf and its obsessive fans, her time in Father Ted, Kim Wilde’s call to get her to join the Here And Now ‘80s pop package tour and a great story about Nik Kershaw and John Taylor. Listen to what happened when she told the audience how she loves and needs applause – and loves “loud cheering” even more. Spoiler alert: contains both laughter and tears.
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Fri, 16 Jun 2023 - 26min - 579 - Word In The Park 2023: How the Beatles and James Bond shaped us all
The first record by the Beatles came out on the same day as the first James Bond film. Over sixty years later they still send their differing forms of Britishness out into the world. John Higgs has written a book, “Love And Let Die”, about how closely they have been intertwined over the years, about how they stood for very different sorts of masculinity, how they changed the way we wanted to dress and behave and how they have, between them, shaped the British psyche of today.
Love And Let Die: https://www.waterstones.com/book/love-and-let-die/john-higgs/9781399600163
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Thu, 15 Jun 2023 - 20min - 578 - Word In The Park 2023 #2 – 60 years of the Bee Gees with Bob Stanley
Author, DJ, member of St Etienne and a regular on our podcasts, Bob Stanley was the second guest at our sun-baked garden party in the auditorium of Opera Holland Park on June 3 talking about his new book “Bee Gees: Children Of the World”. He feels – and very rightly – that in some quarters they’re still the punchline to a heartless joke and deserve infinitely more critical respect. This illuminating conversation touches on the “teenage delinquent” years in Manchester, their struggles in Australia, signing with Robert Stigwood, success and how badly they handled it, what the press made of them, how they invented the sound of Jive Talkin’ and Night Fever, the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, why they were known as “Pilly, Potty and Boozy” and the various people who’ve loudly sung their praises – Diana Ross, Pet Shop Boys, Take That and Noel Gallagher among them.
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Sun, 11 Jun 2023 - 22min - 577 - Word In The Park 2023: 60 years of the Stones with Lesley-Ann Jones
It’s a barely believable sixty years since the Rolling Stones put out their first single, “Come On”, so we asked Lesley-Ann Jones, the author of “The Stone Age", along to talk about them and how they have related to the women in their lives, from Brian Jones’s strange relationships with his Cheltenham girlfriends, Mick Jagger’s powerful attraction to women who look like him, the sexual competition that raged between him and Keith Richards and the mid-life crises of Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman. As they say on the disclaimers this podcast contains adult themes.
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Thu, 08 Jun 2023 - 18min - 576 - What bands are becoming unfashionable?
This week’s rock and roll gumbo includes the following spicy and nutritious ingredients …
… “the internet is designed to let middle-aged men think they’ve had the last word”.
… will the Royal Blood storm-in-a-teacup do them more good than harm?
… Barry Gibbs’ beard.
… what ‘Three Lions’ did to the Lightning Seeds’ Scottish, Welsh and Irish fanbase.
… old memories of Kevin Coyne and Marjory Razorblade.
… why no band is ever “forgotten”.
… what’s so sacred about Love Will Tear Us Apart?
… can AI music ever work if you don’t feel a connection with the person making it?
… why are the Doors fading from view?
… there are only two degrees of adulation: too little or too much.
Plus Birthdays guests Ray Roscoe and Paul Thompson.
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Tue, 06 Jun 2023 - 37min - 575 - Which is the most two-faced world - movies, music or daytime TV?
Fond and appraising enquiry of recent events, this week featuring …
… we now feel we have to approve of artists/musicians/writers before we can say we like what they do. When did all this start?
… a new Stackwaddy game – Hari-Krishna Stomp Wagon? Starchelle Chicago Bear? Flaming Lips song title or exotically named winner of Crufts’ Best In Show?
… in defence of men with bad reputations eg Evelyn Waugh, Martin Amis, John Lennon …
… re-pressed versions of albums that were 70p in the late ‘60s now sell for £29.99. What fresh madness is this?
… Liam Gallagher’s son Lennon and Paul Weller’s daughter Dylan ‘toast the 20th anniversary of an iconic Mulberry bag’: an ‘It’s like punk never happened’ special!
.. how the Silicon Valley TV series tells the truth.
… Noel Gallagher’s magnificent use of the word ‘disingenuous’ (possibly to wrong-foot and baffle his brother). And why he wrote Acquiesce.
… the now comically over-the-top Cannes standing ovations and what’s behind them.
… and the weaselly worlds of film and daytime telly.
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Sun, 28 May 2023 - 38min - 574 - Farewell Tina Turner – “all you needed was Nutbush City Limits and a Watneys Party 7”
A special extra podcast recorded just after hearing the news. We can barely remember a time when we weren’t aware of her. This looks back at the Ike & Tina R&B hits of the ‘60s, the Ikettes dance routines and how he copyrighted her stage name, the story of the recording of River Deep Mountain High with Phil Spector, Proud Mary on the Ed Sullivan Show, supporting the Rolling Stones, her unique vocal style and the way she sold the drama of the songs … and then the greatest comeback imaginable: the arrival of manager Roger Davies, the B.E.F.’s recording of Ball Of Confusion at Abbey Road (and the impossible demands of James Brown), Mad Max: Beyond the Thunderdome, Private Dancer (and Bowie’s 1984) and the record-breaking 180,000-crowd show at Brazil’s Maracana Stadium in 1988. And the fine art of dancing in high heels.
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Thu, 25 May 2023 - 23min - 573 - Robert Johnson, Shakespeare and the rock star image of Martin Amis
Put through the boil-wash of enquiry and hung upon the washing line of truth this week you’ll find the following one-size-fits-all garments …
… which acts are fading from memory and who’ll be remembered in 50 years’ time?
… how Paul Simon, Leonard Cohen and Warren Zevon addressed mortality – (‘My Ride’s Here', ‘Enjoy Every Sandwich’ ...).
… actors who’ve made albums.
… the photo that changed the perception of Johnny Cash.
… why you should watch the Pet Shop Boys’ new BBC interview, Reel Stories.
… the prog star who stage-invaded Jacob Rees Mogg’s speech at the Conservative conference.
… “Nothing will ever beat the first time you hear yourself on the radio”: Sting and the law of diminishing returns.
.. how Will Self capsized his own career.
… how Shakespeare and Robert Johnson’s reputations were both made by a ‘Greatest Hits’.
… Brian Jones’s fall from grace.
... who invented the term ‘goth’?
.. and the genius of Andy Rourke.
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Wed, 24 May 2023 - 51min - 572 - Is there a more annoying rhyme than “arms” and “charms”?
Further nutritious items on the pod’s tasting menu this week include …
… the story of Tubular Bells and how the Exorcist sent its sales through the roof.
… beneath the surface of every band is a drama waiting to kick off: the View’s reunion gig was “a brotherly bust-up that went too far”.
… one of the following didn’t endorse a credit card, but which? – Beyoncé, Michael Jackson, Kiss, the Wu-Tang Clan, U2 and the Sex Pistols.
… crimes in rhyme perpetrated by Tom Waits, Bruce Springsteen and Boney M - plus do YOU know a better one than ‘You told me love was too plebeian/ Told me you were through with me an’ …”?
… Beyoncé’s tour is “a celebration of black queer dance music” but that didn’t stop her playing a private gig in Dubai for $24m.
… plus stadium tour profits, singing bassists and 2001: A Space Odyssey and the Blue Danube.
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Mon, 15 May 2023 - 28min - 571 - How a nine-year-old boy kick-started Rock’n’Roll (and other stories)
Where the Gold Bracelets of Sincerity and Wisdom and the Rod of Equity and Mercy meet the piping hot music news agenda in a weekly podcast and alight upon the following ….
… the greatest singer of sad songs we’ve ever heard.
… the extraordinary tale of the B-side of ‘13 Women And Only One Man’.
… songs you couldn’t record these days.
… Rufus Wainwright’s re-recording of Neil Young’s Harvest – but CAN modern technology possibly make it sound any better?
… Noel Coward in the Italian Job.
... the mystifying UK pop charts at the time of the last Coronation.
… old records we’ve re-discovered: this week, Bonnie Raitt’s magnificent Give It Up (and especially Love Has No Pride).
… John Prine’s Angel From Montgomery.
… Gordon Lightfoot: why Dylan adored him and the tale of The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald.
… the return of Frankie Goes To Hollywood and the excellent current occupation of Brian ‘Nasher’ Nash.
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Tue, 09 May 2023 - 47min - 570 - Groups that look like a check-out line at B&Q? We have a winner!
Encountering the cheerful ping-pong bats of conversation this week you’ll find …
… the most unprepossessing rock band on God’s green earth.
… Ed Sheeran v Marvin Gaye – “the case continues”. But does anybody genuinely copy anyone else these days?
… Springsteen and Michelle Obama and their irresistible thirst for publicity.
… the return of the Stack Waddy game: Spencer Birtwistle? Wilfred Mott? … Bernard Cribbins sitcom character or former member of the Fall?
… Santana’s Caravanserai still sounds like it was made yesterday.
… what Paul McCartney and Coldplay were paid to play Glastonbury.
… if you tell people they’ll like things they tend to look for reasons to disagree but can we (cautiously) recommend the Australian comedy Colin From Accounts?
… Happy 70th, Bill Drummond. We remember his deafening ‘retirement’ exit at the BRITS in 1992 and his exotic activities since.
… the delicate rhythms of the funniest lines by PG Wodehouse.
… a chilling stat involving football academies.
… Harry Belafonte, the original “singer and activist”, and the time he was in a drama class with Walter Matthau and Marlon Brando.
… plus Shakespeare, a light-fingered Noel Gallagher and amplified busking.
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