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REACH OR MISS - Entrepreneurial Marketing Success

REACH OR MISS - Entrepreneurial Marketing Success

Hayut Yogev

The REACH OR MISS podcast is about the customer focused entrepreneur. Hayut Yogev chats with Guy Kawasaki, John Lee Dumas, Michael Stelzner, Kate Erickson, Chris Brogan, Mark Schaefer, Joe Pulizzi, Marcus Sheridan and more successful entrepreneurs and opinion leaders about their Customers Approach and Focus. The goal is to help entrepreneurs and startup founders to reach business success with the right strategy, marketing and sales approach.

267 - Ep. 266 – From the biggest failure to the biggest success – the successful entrepreneurs that reached new success records
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  • 267 - Ep. 266 – From the biggest failure to the biggest success – the successful entrepreneurs that reached new success records

     

    Toccara Karizma is a digital marketing consultant and business growth strategist. She is the CEO of Karizma Marketing, a full-service digital marketing agency dedicated to growing elite eCommerce brands online through email marketing, social media marketing, PPC, SEO, website conversion optimization, and more.

    Having built her own successful eCommerce business back in 2007, Toccara is now considered one of the world's top eCommerce marketing experts. Her out-of-the-box approach to digital marketing and expertise in the online business growth space is why I've asked her to join me today.

    The biggest, most critical failure with customers

    I have a two-fold failure. The biggest failures are taking on clients without the bandwidth, without the support system that I need. We are in demand and are blessed to be in demand. At some points, we want to take on clients when we just don't have the right support team in place. And that's not a fair thing for us to do because when we do that, we don't give them the best results or the best client experience with us. We want to be the Four Seasons of ad agencies. The second failure would be taking any client, especially when you’re newer. That was when we failed because we weren't working with a partner that had everything in place. It was kind of like putting a Ferrari engine in a VW Bug.

    Biggest success with customers

    I stand for full reporting. When we talk to our customers, it's almost like we're flipping all the ways in which they were mishandled and mismanaged by other agencies and saying, “You deserve this.” We do full transparency. We'll tell you when we're wrong and when we've done something wrong. We want to meet with you regularly and build a long-term relationship. We're always on camera with them. So, it's doing business with people. My son was working on a project at school. (He’s in high school now.) He was using a video editing software. I looked up that video editing software’s ads because I ran ads, and I realized that they were struggling. They just did not have great customer feedback. I went directly to this company, it's a SAS company, and said, “Can I get connected with your director of digital marketing?” I got the client, and I think it's funny because I had just interviewed someone for my own YouTube.

     

    Michael Cannavo started his career on social media. He was able to infuse his own understanding of viral content, social platforms, and demographic interests into Super73, causing it to accelerate the growth and visibility of the company.

    As the company grew, so did his social media presence. With 500,000 followers online, Michael has been able to pull back the curtain on what life is like within Super73, how the company has succeeded, and where it is going next.

    The biggest, most critical failure with customers

    I think it’s a matter of really understanding what they want. Early on, we had this idea of what we wanted to do, and we kept trying to insist to our customers, “Hey, this is what you want. This is the product for you.” We were missing a few key features. We heard that directly from the customers and I think it has really changed the way that we view our products, from designing to prototyping to testing it. We really engage with the customers now.

    Biggest success with customers

    We recently released a bike called the ZX. It's not necessarily too remarkable of a product, but it is a perfect product for a demographic that was asking for it for a long time. We really took into account what customers were saying in the comment sections, what they were saying on reviews. That really created something so magical because it was exactly what our customer was looking for. When we released that bike, it was positivity across the board. Everybody was so happy. The customers were happy. Our design team was happy.

     

    Khaled Maziad is a marketing consultant who specializes in the Psychology of persuasion and high-ticket sales.

    He helps coaches transform their uncharged-non-monetary offer into a high-ticket one without having Tony Robbins like Brand.

    He shares his story on struggling to give away his stuff for free to charging high-ticket offers and helping his clients from all around the world do the same.

    The biggest, most critical failure with customers

    One of them was not testing offers before validating them. I worked on a product once that I was perfecting and I didn't show it to anyone. I didn't get any feedback. I didn't ask anyone if they wanted it or not. I worked for about a month on it. When I put it out there, no one even cared about it. The tool was a really big failure.

    Biggest success with customers

    We had a product that helped people by working on their messaging. We did a beta test first at a lower price, just to test how it worked. When we took a small group for the beta test, we were surprised that the people got value from the test. When we published the course and pushed the program, some of the beta testers asked to pay full price.

    I’d love to hear what are your favorite episode?

    Mon, 09 May 2022 - 24min
  • 266 - Ep. 265 – Rick Elmore: “Build the best relationships you can with your first clients. Those are your lighthouse customers.”

    Rick Elmore is an entrepreneur, sales and marketing expert, and former college and professional football athlete. As the Founder and CEO of Simply Noted, Rick developed a proprietary technology that puts real pen and ink to paper to scale handwritten communication, helping businesses of all industries scale this unique marketing platform to stand out from their competition and build meaningful relationships with clients, customers, and employees.

    Founded in 2018 and based in Tempe, Arizona, Simply Noted has grown into a thriving company with clients of various sizes across the country including in hospitality, real estate, insurance, nonprofit, franchise, B2B, and others. Rick has served as the company’s CEO since its founding, for more than three years, and has over a decade of sales and marketing industry experience.

     

    most passionate about

    My background is in athletics. I played college and professional American football. When I got done, I made the transition into sales and marketing. I started with medical companies in the United States, Stryker and Straumann, and in orthopedics and dental. I had a pretty good career. I'm currently doing Simply Noted. We help companies send and automate real, genuine handwritten notes with technology and have been doing that for the last three and a half years. We have developed technology – a handwriting robot that puts real pen to paper and helps businesses connect on a more personal level, building relationships with their clients.

    Rick’s career and story

    During my MBA, we had to start a project. When I was recruited in college, the coaches who always stood out the most to me were the coaches who sent handwritten notes. One year, in 2016, my wife and I had 400 clients. We tried sending out 400 printed holiday cards. All we did was hand-write the envelope and it took us over two weeks. I was like, “There has to be a better way.” So, I started researching. I looked up some technologies that were available. It wasn't until 2017 that I dove into it for a school project, but, really, I’d researched the technology for about a year.

    Best advice for entrepreneurs

    A lot of people want to become entrepreneurs or start a business, but they have analysis paralysis, overthink They think, 'I can't do it.' They think they have to have all the answers, but really, it's just taking that first step and getting started. Absolutely build the best relationships you can with those first clients. Those are your lighthouse customers. Those are the risk-takers. Those are the ones who are going to give you an opportunity. You have to make sure everything goes through.

    The biggest, most critical failure with customers

    I would say scaling a company is really hard. I'm struggling with figuring out how to scale a service like this when you're selling a $2 and $3 item. We want to help every client out, and we need to figure out an effective, efficient, really personal way of doing that.

    Biggest success with customers

    Something that I'm really good at is perseverance, relentless competition. That’s just baked into who I am. Being patient is important. When you're an entrepreneur and starting a business, it's really hard to be patient because you have bills to pay.

    Rick’s recommendation of a tool

    Zapier it's a platform that allows you to automate tasks between software.

    Rick’s one key success factor

    The first thing you need is a really good support system. I have a wife and two kids and my parents live in Arizona. I absolutely couldn't do this if it wasn't for them. It takes time to get a business off the ground. One other thing that’s important is to remember that you fail only when you give up or quit.

     

    Rick’s Mountain

    Since we believe that the best way for entrepreneurs to get fast, big, and sustainable success is by leading your (new) market category, and the entire entrepreneurial journey reminds me of mountaineering, I want to ask you: Is there a mountain you dream of climbing or a mountain you have already climbed?

    I'm an avid outdoorsman. Being in the mountains is where I love to go. I've climbed Mount Whitney in the United States and I climb Humphreys, here in Arizona, pretty regularly or a few times a year. I think entrepreneurship can be broken down to what it's like to climb a mountain. Every step gets a little bit harder and challenges you a little bit more. You're going to be a little bit tired, but you need that inner fire to keep pushing. There will be a lot of times in your journey as an entrepreneur when you feel like you're getting there and you're going to make it. Then, you get there and something happens that knocks you back down. You're like, “Oh my gosh, I thought this was going to make everything easier.” I think, as an entrepreneur, it's false summit after false summit, but there are a lot of great views along the way and you have to appreciate that. You have to enjoy the journey.
    [caption id="attachment_7732" align="aligncenter" width="700"] Mount Whitney[/caption]

     

    The best ways to connect with Rick

    My Website Social Media Profiles: LinkedIn


     

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    Mon, 02 May 2022 - 21min
  • 265 - Ep. 264 – Rhonda Petit advise entrepreneurs: Learn what the true value of your business is!

    Rhonda Petit is a Sales and Business Peak Performance Coach with 35 years of Sales and Sales Management experience in Corporate America in the life sciences and diagnostic markets. She has experience working with Fortune 500 and Fortune 1000 companies.

    Today she works enthusiastically with Corporations and Individuals with champion mindsets, who know school is never out, who want to continually grow to unleash and activate more of their true potential and power.

    She helps people discover their deepest desires, leverage the untapped potential in their hearts, activate their potential and achieve their personal and professional goals so they can create the life they want and realize true fulfillment.

    Rhonda is a seasoned Sales Professional, a certified coach, leader, in-demand speaker, and author of “The Spirit of Selling.”

     

    Most passionate about

    I am most passionate today about helping people realize the potential that lies within them, especially given the fast-paced changes that are occurring in the world today. I'm passionate about selling. I wrote a book about selling and how you can tap into the subconscious mind and your potential by understanding it and understanding more about the divinity within you.

    Rhonda’s career and story

    I intended to be a chemist, but I got a double major in business because I was always fascinated, especially living in the United States, with free enterprise, being an entrepreneur, and building my own business. I was working as a chemist for chemical company and called the representative for J.T.Baker. The chemical company had been promoted and, there, the sales position was open. My lab manager knew I liked the business end of things. My position was eliminated in 2019 and I had been going to coaching school because I always knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur. I had my own business when they informed me of the news. I looked up at the sky and said, “Okay, I guess it's time for me to do this now, as opposed to later.” That's when I started my coaching business.

    Best advice for entrepreneurs

    Recognize that your business is serving people and what the value of your business is. Know your worth and the impact you can make on other people with your services. Don't be timid or scared to step out and do what you love.

    The biggest, most critical failure with customers

    In the beginning, I was caught up in a lot of the mechanics and the details. Because I was not aware of, and really conscious of, the value of my service, I would let people off the hook. If they came up with an objection, I would be timid, stand back, and listen to what they were saying.

    Biggest success with customers

    The greatest success is when you deliver a service and feel the energy from the people who got something from it. You see they've had an alteration and a shift that has put more life into them. They're excited that they've had a breakthrough. They recognize something that was holding them back and now they see why it was holding them back and how they're going to proceed. They're lifted, like virtual chains are coming off.

    Rhonda’s recommendation of a tool

    Zoom Having a Zoom meeting is much more impactful than when you had meetings on the phone.

    Rhonda’s one key success factor

    I find that my biggest strength is when I really get present and honest with myself. I lean back into myself and say, “You can do anything you set your mind to.” I think about my successes as opposed to the failures. That allows me to keep going and make the results happen, to go with the punches. It's always served me.

     

    Rhonda’s Mountain

    Since we believe that the best way for entrepreneurs to get fast, big, and sustainable success is by leading your (new) market category, and the entire entrepreneurial journey reminds me of mountaineering, I want to ask you: Is there a mountain you dream of climbing or a mountain you have already climbed?

    I love being out in nature, as an avid gardener, and to have climbed mountains. For me, the mountain analogy is that while I like being one with nature, there’s also the analogy of persistence. When we go on these entrepreneurial journeys, we must be persistent. We can never lose sight of our goal. We have to know that, with every step forward we're taking, we take one step at a time. Enjoy the journey and the scenery as you climb, and just keep climbing.
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    The best ways to connect with Rhonda

    My Website My book’s site Social Media Profiles: LinkedIn

     

    Want to learn how to start your Entrepreneurship?
    Download for Free

     

    HOW TO START ?

    The 7 initial marketing essentials
    for entrepreneurs

     

    Want to learn how to choose the best Name and Logo? Not sure which customers to focus on right now and where they are? Want to build your website, or trying to figure out how and what content to share on social media?

    Yes, take me there
    Mon, 25 Apr 2022 - 17min
  • 264 - Ep. 263 – Jake Jorgovan: “It helps to launch a business in a rising tide, like in a rising wave. That’s what we are doing with podcasting right now.”

    Jake Jorgovan is a Serial Entrepreneur, Podcast Producer and Business Advisor.

    He is the Founder of Content Allies and Lead Cookie. Through these companies he has generated $40M+ in sales for his clients. Jake is the host of the Working Without Pants Podcast, and Leaders of B2B Podcast. He also shares the raw lessons of his entrepreneurial journey at Jake-Jorgovan.com.

    Jake is the producer behind podcasts for brands such as Facebook, Siemens Energy, Stampli, and more.

    Jake’s professional focus is to build companies that enable freedom of time and financial profitability. He does that by being an active entrepreneur in the trenches and through training others on entrepreneurship, leadership, sales & marketing.

    Jake has degree in entrepreneurship from Belmont University and has been awarded Nashville’s Youth Entrepreneur of the Year. He has spoken at conferences such as SXSW and has been featured in publications such as Inc & Forbes.

    Jake lives a nomadic life and has traveled the world while running multiple companies.

    Current location: Barcelona, Spain

     

    Most passionate about

    I currently run Content Allies, which is a podcast agency. I'm really passionate about building this business up. Then, personally, on the side, I'm really passionate about playing with synthesizers. We produce revenue-generating B2B podcasts. That means we work primarily with businesses. These would be companies that are looking to launch a podcast. They tend to be of a decent size.

    Jake’s career and story

    I have been in entrepreneurship for about 12 or 13 years now and have been in a video agency for a while. I got really into the event, industry, and music industry early in my career. Then I went off and did freelance digital marketing—various iterations of digital marketing agencies. Eventually, I decided: Okay, I want to focus at the agency on content. My previous agency wasn't lead generation and got heavily disrupted; it kept changing the game. I started Content Allies. We did a bunch of different iterations of content offerings and eventually landed on podcasting as our core service, with a full suite of content marketing. We found that podcasts are growing. There are tons of stats out there, saying that every year podcasts are growing and that more people are listening to them. What is really interesting for B2B companies is that podcasts can become the epicenter of their content strategy. Out of a podcast, we'll create videos, we'll create articles, we'll create social posts, we'll create quote blocks, we'll create short, social videos, and YouTube videos. We'll also often lead that into collaborations with the guests to post content on their site.

    Best advice for entrepreneurs

    It helps to launch a business in a rising tide, like in a rising wave. We're doing the same thing with podcasting right now. It's like podcasting is a wave and we're riding that. At some point, that will plateau or stabilize and commoditize as any industry does.

    The biggest, most critical failure with customers

    One of the things that's hard about being an entrepreneur is that you have to learn every facet of the business. People deny this early on. I'm not a finance guy; that's how I started. So, I tried to hire out the job of keeping my books to the cheapest person I could, but that meant I didn't have visibility into finances. Not knowing at least the basics led to really bad failures for me in the past.

    Biggest success with customers

    It came down to being intentional about the niche we were going to pick with Content Allies. The biggest success comes from testing different offers and then trying to really think through things like, ‘This is going to become my core business.’

    Jake’s recommendation of a tool

    Process Street It replaced very expensive project managers on our team. It’s great if you have a team of people and are trying to organize the work or are in the process of building SLPs and trying to streamline your business.
    fm We record all of our podcasts on it. It records a local file on each person's computer and then uploads those.

    Jake’s one key success factor

    One of the big things for any entrepreneur is to have a high level of self-awareness about where you're good and where you're not. I think that helps each person succeed. It’s just a tactical recommendation.

     

    Jake’s Mountain

    Since we believe that the best way for entrepreneurs to get fast, big, and sustainable success is by leading your (new) market category, and the entire entrepreneurial journey reminds me of mountaineering, I want to ask you: Is there a mountain you dream of climbing or a mountain you have already climbed?

    I live in Denver, Colorado, so I love mountains. I'm a mountain person over an ocean person. I always look at business as, like, you're moving toward this milestone. And by the time you get to that next milestone, you're like: Oh, well, there are new problems here. We've grown pretty drastically over the past couple of years. I have to learn how to build a hiring system. I think you could say this is the peak. Then there's always a higher peak because you get somewhere and you're like, I thought I got really good at this and now I'm hitting another level of having to grow and learn. The mountain analogy is great.
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    The best ways to connect with Jake

    My Website Content Allies - Helping B2B tech companies launch revenue-generating podcasts Leaders of B2B Podcast - Weekly Interviews with experts in B2B Tech Social Media Profiles: LinkedIn

     

    Want to learn how to start your Entrepreneurship?
    Download for Free

     

    HOW TO START ?

    The 7 initial marketing essentials
    for entrepreneurs

     

    Want to learn how to choose the best Name and Logo? Not sure which customers to focus on right now and where they are? Want to build your website, or trying to figure out how and what content to share on social media?

    Yes, take me there
    Mon, 18 Apr 2022 - 24min
  • 263 - Ep. 262 – Dan Zavorotny: “You just gotta go and try to sell to someone to see who wants your product. The goal is to get them to put their credit card in”

    Dan Zavorotny is the co-founder of NutriSense – a metabolic health company that utilizes Continuous Glucose Monitoring (GCM) technology to provide real-time data to clients.

    He launched 3 months before Covid, and he has grown the company from an idea to over $150 million valuation in just 26 months and 120 employees. Previously, he worked as a management consultant for KPMG where he consulted for 3 out of top 5 hospitals in the world.

    When Dan’s not working, he loves to travel, and he has been to over 100 countries before the age of 30.

     

    Most passionate about

    I was working in healthcare consulting and saw a trend over and over. We saw people, hospitals, and insurance companies spend more money every single year on healthcare. I ran into one of my friends who was wearing a device called a continuous glucose monitor. It tracks your glucose in real-time, 24/7. I put on a device and it completely changed the way I looked at health. We said, “Let's start a company around it.” We basically launched in two weeks. I quit my job and then we just started going, going, going. Since then, we've gotten to an over $150 million value.

    Dan’s career and story

    We immigrated from Ukraine. My parents didn't have much money. So, I picked jobs in corporate finance that let me live in France for a year. Then I focused on my career. I said, “How do I become the best employee possible?” I was doing healthcare consulting. I quickly realized that there are fundamental shifts in the industry of healthcare that need to happen, and there's not enough drive or change inside. So, that has to happen from external forces. I started looking at, like, “What can I start? How can I help this industry?” This was when I ran into my friend, Alex, whom I started a company with and who was an acknowledged expert. We brought in a third person, Kara, who's our head of nutrition. We can focus on the business, the software, and the human capital in this area to change behavior. That's been guiding us. It's been very effective by focusing on hiring the best people.

    Best advice for entrepreneurs

    The first one is, in every business, there are always two things that are most important. It's either build the product or service and offering or sell that product or service and offering. You must always say who's doing the first and who’s doing the second. Remember, no matter what you're doing, always focus on those two functions at the beginning. Number two is, you just gotta go and try to sell this to someone to see who wants it. The goal here is to get them to put their credit card in. Always focus on credit. Until someone's putting a credit card down, they're not actually your customer. To me, the signifier is, did you collect their cash? If you did, your product has value.

    The biggest, most critical failure with customers

    It's that we listened to the customers who are the loudest customers, but they might not be our main customers. It’s important to remember that just because someone is very loud as a customer, that does not mean this is the person you should be billing for it. I think that's a mistake we made. It doesn't sound that bad, but if you actually think about it, we're a software company. We're telling our engineers to build something and retain all that money on salaries, product development, and a user experience for this one individual, while the other 99% of people might be less vocal. Oftentimes, they're the silent majority. We're basically neglecting them because every time we're building for this one individual, we're not building for those other ones.

    Biggest success with customers

    When we first started, we had about 12 customers sign up. One of the packages got lost by the United States post office. We emailed the customer and said, “Hey, it looks like your package got lost in Arizona. Do you want us to ship you another one?” The person said, “No, it's okay.” In a desperate move, I basically got on a flight to Paris from Chicago to deliver this package to them in Paris, in an effort to get this person to try the product because we needed customers. So, I handed the product to the person in person, in France. They put it on and they loved it. They became one of our biggest advocates, which meant they referred a lot of other customers.

    Dan’s recommendation of a tool

    If you are a brand new company, the first thing you have to do is establish trust.

    Dan’s one key success factor

    I am an obsessive learner, which has given me the opportunity to succeed. I came from healthcare consulting and finance. It started with a simple Google search, a couple of conversations, and understanding all the possible way we saw online. There were hundreds and hundreds of ways, so it was about slowly using deduction of, “Well, which ones take a long time to build and sell versus which ones are shorter?”

     

    Dan’s Mountain

    Since we believe that the best way for entrepreneurs to get fast, big, and sustainable success is by leading your (new) market category, and the entire entrepreneurial journey reminds me of mountaineering, I want to ask you: Is there a mountain you dream of climbing or a mountain you have already climbed?

    Sometimes people ask me, “Why did you start this company?” I say, “Because there was an issue that we needed to solve, which is that we are getting less healthy.” It makes no sense to me that we are the richest country in the world, yet we are also one of the least healthy countries in the world. Before, it was so prestigious to climb mountains. It was an endeavor and there was a risk of death. Now, things have changed so much. You can almost buy your way to the mountain. If you have enough money, you can have professionals come with you and set up camp for you. They give you high-quality food and carry your equipment for you, or you’re just jogging next to them. It's still not an easy task. You still have to, to some extent, be prepared for this. I look at mountains, unfortunately, as less romantic than they used to be. Nevertheless, I do want to climb mountains. I think the ocean is really the next facet that we need to explore. To me, what’s really fascinating is getting into the depth of the ocean.
    [caption id="attachment_4932" align="aligncenter" width="700"] I think the ocean is really the next facet that we need to explore[/caption]

     

    The best ways to connect with Dan

    My Website Social Media Profiles: LinkedIn Twitter

     

    Want to learn how to start your Entrepreneurship?
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    HOW TO START ?

    The 7 initial marketing essentials
    for entrepreneurs

     

    Want to learn how to choose the best Name and Logo? Not sure which customers to focus on right now and where they are? Want to build your website, or trying to figure out how and what content to share on social media?

    Yes, take me there
    Mon, 11 Apr 2022 - 32min
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