Crime Insiders

On New Years Eve, 1998, in the small town of Wee Waa, a 91 year old woman was horrifically attacked. Incredibly, she survived, and quickly notified police of the attack. But, after months of case work without any leads, the case went cold…

Two years later, then detective Robin Napper was asked to investigate. 

He arrived in the town of just 1,900 people with a controversial, new age tactic to catch the offender. But, to use it, he needed internal policing politics to fall his way, and…the undying support of the town…

Host Brent Sanders sits down with Robin Napper to discuss this case, and to hear about how his career evolved through the years. 

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Businessman Paul Nguyen left Sydney’s Hilton Hotel in May 2014 and was never seen alive again.

A police investigation uncovered secrets that exposed Mr Nguyen’s murky underworld connections, leading authorities to a makeshift grave around an hour’s drive, south of Sydney.

The excavation and identification of Mr Nguyen’s remains was forensic anthropologist, Dr Hayley Green’s, first case. In this episode, hear about the complexities of collecting, analysing and documenting human bones in a murder investigation.

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On the 26th of June, 2006, police were notified that a young girl had gone missing in Perth. Moments later, her body was found, and an expansive crime scene was established. 

With an unknown, and clearly dangerous offender on the run, police were working against the clock to preserve crucial evidence, and find who was responsible. 

Then detective Paul Litherland was too close to the victim’s family to investigate, so was forced to watch on as police began their search for the offender. 

Brent Sanders sits down with Paul to hear this story, and understand how Paul went from General Duties Cop to WA's Australian of the Year.

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Bikies live in a world where loyalty is fierce and silence is golden. So, when a member of the Gypsy Jokers was killed in outback Western Australia, a deadly game of cat and mouse began. The Gypsy Jokers were convinced the culprit was Don Hancock, a former Police Chief with a colourful past. And, as the investigation heated up, the stakes became deadly.

In this episode, Hadyn Green takes us inside the forensic investigation that followed - a tale of bombings, one of WAs most notorious bikie wars, and what it’s like to come face to face with a ruthless group bent on revenge.

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After coercing farmers to plant marijuana crops in their fields, organised crime figures laid the seed for a dominant and violent drug empire across the Victorian borders. But, when police raided the farms, it was the growers who faced the consequences, as mob members threatened them and their families to stay quiet.

Former Victoria Police detective Ray Shuey was at the pointy end of that investigation, and sits down with host Brent Sanders to explain how he helped organise the 50kg drug buy that busted the crooks, and the complexities of protecting the growers whilst pursuing the mafia. 

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The body of 27-year-old mother of two, Samantha Bodsworth, was found in Noosa, surrounded by wattle trees. The killer thinks it’s the perfect crime, but what they underestimated was the power of the tiny, silent witnesses clinging to almost everything they touched – pollen.

In this episode, Dr Lynne Milne, the scientist at the forefront of forensic palynology, reveals how, for the first time in an Australian criminal case, pollen helped unmask a murderer.

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For decades he was an adored media personality. But, after an iTV documentary exposed him as a sex offender, Jimmy Savile's story turned sinister, and questions were soon asked about the people who enabled his behaviour despite rumours and innuendo.

For many of the children and young people Jimmy Savile offended against, they were finally heard - but, as former Detective Mark Williams-Thomas explains, justice will never be served against the now dead Savile, and the impact of his behaviour will never leave the victim survivors he assaulted. 

Hear the story of how Mark constructed and investigated the documentary that helped exposed Saville, and hear host Brent Sanders unpack Mark's career and the incredible story of Exposure: The Other Side of Jimmy.

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Every word leaves a trace. A disgruntled employee's late-night Facebook rant, cryptic messages, riddled with emojis, arranging a drug deal, a threatening letter from a scorned ex. These are more than words to forensic linguist, Professor Georgina Heydon. They’re crucial clues that can act like a phonetic fingerprint, revealing the identity of the culprit - because sometimes the key to solving a crime isn’t what’s said, but how it’s said.

In this episode, hosted by Kathryn Fox, Georgina explains how the scientific study of language can help solve crimes and expose the truth.

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As a door was bashed in, and a very ordinary seeming man was put in cuffs, the heinous crimes of the Claremont Serial Killer were finally brought to light.

Todd Bowler, who spoke exclusively with Crime Insiders, is a former WA Tactical Group member has been on the other side of these investigations for several years, and during his career, was a lead member in several high profile cases. 

He sat down with host Brent Sanders to talk through his career and to explain how he was part of the dramatic investigation that caught the Claremont Serial Killer. 

To hear more from Todd, visit this link.

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For 20 years, Henry Keogh was imprisoned for a crime he didn't commit. What was a tragic accident turned into a full-blown murder trial, fueled by dubious evidence from now-discredited forensic pathologist, Dr. Colin Manock.

In this episode, host Kathryn Fox talks with Forensic Photographer, Professor Gale Spring, one of the key experts who helped overturn Keogh's conviction in 2014. Hear about the intricate complexities of interpreting images and video, the misplaced trust juries often have in CCTV footage, and the human propensity to perceive patterns where none exist.

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After finding a fragment of a skull several metres within a toilet plumbing system, police knew they were dealing with something sinister. 

Mike Bush is a former commissioner of the New Zealand Police Force and has had a decorated career. However, his time as a Detective and a lead investigator saw him take on some gruesome and confronting cases - a far stretch from the press conferences and media appearance as commissioner. 

He sat down with host Brent Sanders to explain some of these cases and to walk us through the way police investigated and finalised some of New Zealand's most high profile cases. 

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A blood-stained cloth was the only evidence police had to work with when Marlene Maria Smith didn't turn up to work in August, 2000. This small clue would soon become part of the huge web of forensic evidence, ultimately leading to the conviction of a killer.

Peter Baines OAM spent over two decades as a specialist forensic crime scene investigator with the NSW Police. In this episode with host Kathryn Fox, hear how a real CSI handles a crime scene, from start to finish. 

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A man described as "pure evil", understand how police investigated his heinous crimes, caught him in and the process of holding him in prison whilst seeking a confession.

Decorated former Victorian Police Detective Adrian Paterson joins host Brent Sanders to unpack his career, and go deep into how he helped catch some of Australia's most high-profile criminals.

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Drowning is the third-highest cause of death around the world, yet underwater recovery and aquatic forensic investigation remain heavily underresourced and underresearched. 

Forensic investigator and scientific diver, Sarah Mormino, is on a mission to change this. 

In this episode, host Kathryn Fox and Sarah unravel the fascinating and often perilous process of collecting and preserving evidence underwater. Discover why turtles can be unexpected adversaries for investigators and hear about the case that ignited Sarah's passion for aquatic crime scenes.

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A tragedy that rocked Melbourne in the late 80s, and one that left the nation questioning its own attitude towards guns and violence. 

Former Commissioner of Victoria Police Kel Glare was just a few months away from getting the top job when an armed gunman killed seven and injured 19 people in Melbourne's inner North. It's a case that stood out to Kel for its violence and senselessness, and one that shook him him despite him being as experienced as he was. 

Hear about that case, and others as Kel sat down with host Brent Sanders in this episode of Crime Insiders: Detectives. 

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Heartbreaking was the only word that could be used to describe the death of a 10-month-old baby in Perth. What was less clear cut is the question that was posed to the judge - was the baby boy’s death an accident, or was he murdered by his father?

Judith Fordham has been lauded as one of Western Australia’s most high-profile criminal lawyers, but her dual expertise in law and forensics sets her apart from her colleagues. In this episode with host Kathryn Fox, hear about one of the most divisive areas in both forensic science and the law - "shaken baby syndrome". 

This episode references child abuse and infant loss. If you or someone you know is experiencing, or at risk of experiencing, domestic, family or sexual violence, call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732, text 0458 737 732 or visit 1800RESPECT.org.au for online chat and video call services. For support relating to infant loss, contact Red Nose Grief and Loss on 1300 308 307 or visit rednosegriefandloss.org.au. 

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What happens when back up is three hours away, and you're faced with a violent and desperate situation? 

Mark Tregellas is one of Victoria's most experienced regional police officers. He's spent decades tackling violent and intense criminal situations, ones that are unique to that of Australia's wild and often unpredictable regional areas. 

Join host Brent Sanders as Mark walks him through two cases that stand out to him from his time in the force. 

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Semen is the crack cocaine of the fly world, and while maggots love a corpse, flies feast on live human flesh and fluids. So, could a fly frame you for murder? And how do police differentiate fly 'artifacts' from human biological material at a crime scene?

These are all things forensic biologist, Dr Annalisa Durdle has studied. Join host Kathryn Fox as Annalisa redefines what it means to be a 'fly on the wall'. 

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The AFP and customs intercept hundreds of tonnes of narcotics every year. But, the techniques of criminals and smugglers are becoming more complex, and unfortunately, more effective. 

Nigel Phair is a former Australian Federal Police Officer who took on a range of high profile drug importation cases. This saw him intercepting large quantities of drugs, investigating its origin and surveilling its eventual destination in Australia. 

Understand this work and hear Nigel walk host Brent Sanders through how the police undertake these investigations and how things have changed over the years. 

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It took 37 years, a failed murder trial, and an Australian mathematician to finally prosecute one of Scotland's most infamous serial killers. 

Professor David Balding is a pioneer in the field of mathematical computational genetics. Join host Kathryn Fox and hear how using things like probability, David can calculate the likelihood of DNA belonging to offenders, victims and crime scenes. 

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The gangs of New Zealand are like nothing else, and as an undercover cop, you're forced to prove yourself, demonstrate you're a criminal and show you're capable of committing violent and often dangerous crimes. 

That was the life of undercover operative Mark Van Lee Warden, who spent years as a covert officer deep inside the underworld of the New Zealand ganglands. He was required to tackle some of the country's most powerful underworld figures, including the infamous convicted murderer Ricki Goodin. Mark sat down with host Brent Sanders to explain how he became an undercover cop, and the impact it had on him in his professional and personal life. 

To hear more about Mark's time in the force, his book is available here. 

Mark's work post policing at Warden Consulting. 

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Victims of stalking are systematically let down. So, how do the police handle reports of stalking? And what does the research tell us about effective intervention?

24-year-old Alice Ruggles was stalked and murdered by her ex-boyfriend. Alice did all the recommended things, including reporting his dangerous behaviour to the police multiple times. Unfortunately, Alice's story is not a one-off. It's a typical story illustrating the link between coercive control and stalking. 

Join host Kathryn Fox for part 2 of her discussion with forensic psychologist, Professor Troy McEwan from Swinburne University. 

This episode is part 2 of 2.

To learn more about Alice's story, and the work of the Alice Ruggles trust, head here.

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The consequences of online abuse can be fatal, and in the early 2000s, even experts were naive to the dangers of the online world for us, and our kids.

Yasmin London is a former NSW Police Officer who took on a diverse set of roles in her decade in the force. She tackled the everyday stress of general duties, the diverse crimes of Rosebay in Sydney and the complex and unknown world of cyberbullying in the early days of the internet. 

Yasmin joined host Brent Sanders to talk through her career, and to unpack how her time in the force impacted her motivation for the work she does now. 

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Stalking is disturbingly common, yet often misunderstood by wider society. 

Professor Troy McEwan from the Swinburne University of Technology is a forensic psychologist specialising in understanding, assessing, and treating stalking behaviour. In this episode with Kathryn Fox, hear about the 5 different types of stalkers, and gain insights into their problematic behaviours. 

This episode is part 1 of 2. 

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Once an admired figure in NSW police, the now disgraced Roger Rogerson left a trail of corruption and death as he moved his way through the force. 

Former NSW Detective Deborah Locke was at the centre of Rogerson's grip on the police, and faced horrific consequences for standing up to him and his corruption. Deb sat down with host Brent Sanders, and unpacked the details of her life in the force and how she overcame both Rogerson and the police itself. 

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Even when removed or burnt, forensic experts can use tattoos to identify offenders and victims of crimes. This is one of many techniques forensic photographers like Karen Byrne use to document everything from crime scenes to autopsies. 

Hear about the surprising ways evidence can be captured, the emotional weight of the job, and how forensic photography plays a crucial role in securing justice.

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One of the country's most effective crime fighting arms, Queensland Police have some of the world's most dedicated officers. Their experience in fighting online child sexual abuse is second to none, and James Maskey was part of that team. 

Join host Brent Sanders as he unpacks James' career. From General Duties, to the CPOL team, hear about the cases that defined James and eventually lead to his decision to leave the force. 

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https://fortemaustralia.org.au/

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They say pigs will eat anything. But can they diminish a whole human body? Surprisingly, science didn't have an answer to this question until recently.

Forensic anthropologist, Dr Penny McCardle, has helped police investigate some of the most high-profile crimes in recent history, including the disappearance of William Tyrell and the 1986 murder of Roxlyn Bowie. 

In this discussion with Kathryn Fox, hear about the investigation into the murder of Roxlyn, which included the biggest excavation in NSW Police history, and what would become the world's first study into what happens if a human body is fed to pigs.

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Matt Newlands is a former NSW Police Officer who undertook general duties for much of his career. His career was well regarded, but was also peppered with difficulties and would end as part of a slippery slope of incidents in Matt's personal life. 

We'll understand what lead to that situation with host Brent Sanders, as he unpacks stories and cases from Matt's career and the one mistake which ended it.  

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Technology has become a weapon for perpetrators of abuse. And, in our digitally intertwined lives, cyber forensics has become an essential step in almost all aspects of criminal investigation, particularly cases involving child exploitation and family violence. 

Cyber forensic expert, Rose MacDonald, has made it her life's mission to combat this insidious form of abuse. Her work ensures the complex process of evidence preservation of spyware-infested devices and encrypted apps brings these offenders to justice. 

To hear more of Rose, you can find her on The Briefing. 

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A person of interest driving over five days and distributing drugs across the country was finally brought down after a complex sting. 

Noel, who's last name has been redacted for operational reasons is one of Victoria's most seasoned detectives, and has seen the state thrashed through a period of uncertainty by Melbourne's high-profile criminal underworld. 

He joins Brent Sanders, and talks us through his time in the force and what he's working on post policing. 

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Heard of a smoking gun? What about a smoking shovel? 

Tracking down killers has never been part of the traditional job profile for people who study soils, but when the bodies of two women believed to be murdered could not be located, police gave pedologist, Professor Rob Fitzpatrick a call.

In this episode with Kathryn Fox, Rob reveals how soil has been the key to cracking complex criminal investigations, from unsolved homicides to illegal dinosaur nest smuggling and counter-terrorism operations. 

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Tony Hines' body was found strewn against a cliff face in Maroubra. How did police begin their investigation, and what contributed to the eventual outcome of the case?

Former NSW Police Deputy Police Commissioner Dave Owens is one of the states' most respected officers, and has seen some of NSW's most intense criminal operations unfold. 

Join host Brent Sanders as he unpacks Dave's illustrious career, and gains an understanding of how Dave took on the infamous Bra Boys. 

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Two young girls shot dead in a town of less than 1000 people. With local law enforcement stumped, they turned to the renowned FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit for answers.

Julia Cowley is a retired FBI criminal profiler with a twist - she's a forensic scientist too.

In this episode with Kathryn Fox, hear about Julia's very first assignment with the BAU, where her unique dual skillset provided insight into the motivations and behavioral traits of an offender who could commit such a crime - ultimately resulting in the conviction of the man responsible for 'The Weleetka Murders'.

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When Detective Brett Lee was told one of his colleagues was a potential sex offender, he took on not only the investigation, but the pressure of prosecuting one of his own. 

Brett was a career detective, and was involved in some of QPol's most heinous investigations. Working in child protection has its difficulties, but for Brett, he found the challenges to be rewarding.

Understand his work and what it took to undertake it with host Brent Sanders, as he dives into Brett as an officer and as an educator post policing. 

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If you’re concerned about the thoughts and behaviour of yourself or another adult or child -there is support available.

Stop it Now is an anonymous Australian helpline that aims to support adults who have sexual thoughts about children, to prevent offending.

The helpline is for parents, professionals, family and community members who come across child sexual abuse.

If you’re worried about an adults or child’s behaviour, online or offline, you can call the anonymous helpline on 1800 01 1800 or use a live chat or secure messaging service.

To find out more, head to stopitnow.org.au

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After being arrested for drink driving, how did a hair sample and forensic expertise help save Silverchair lead singer Daniel Johns from a prison sentence?

Dr Michael Robertson has over 20 years of forensic expertise. One of his most common cases is drink driving, and even though it seems black and white - you're either over the limit or you're not, it's actually far more nuanced and complex.

Join host Kathryn Fox as she unpacks Michael's work and the case involving Daniel Johns. 

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When an off-duty officer made a disturbing discovery off a country road in Sheffield, detectives were immediately notified. They rushed to the scene to preserve evidence and begin piecing together clues. For Detective Nigel Donohue though, despite the horrific scene, this case proved much more complex, and more disturbing than what initially appeared. 

Former South Yorkshire Detective Inspector Nigel Donohue joins Brent Sanders to walk him through his 31 year plus career, and offers insight into the UK police system and how things are different to Australia. 

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Several shots fired, a body in a driveway, and an abandoned meat cleaver. How does forensics piece together the scene and catch the killer? 

Angus Newton is one of Oceania's most respected ballistic experts. His career has seen him take on hundreds of intense and complex cases - spanning from discrete robberies to violent and devastating killings. 

Unpack his work with host Kathryn Fox, as Angus walks her through the strange case of Operation Blue. 

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A wounded gang member, a set of abandoned shotguns in a playground and a witness who refuses to testify. How do police piece together the case to not only make sense of what happened, but gain a conviction? 

Luke Taylor is a 14 year veteran of the force. His time in the police saw him take on unique challenges, and meant he was on the frontline of policing for some of NSW's most violent crimes. 

Understand his career with host Brent Sanders, and hear about Luke's post policing endeavours as he takes his law enforcement experience into schools. 

For more information about Luke's work now, visit crimestory.com.au/

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After her convictions were quashed, many touted forensics as the saviour for Kathleen Folbigg. But, how did they fail her in the first place, and what led to one of Australia's greatest ever miscarriages of justice? 

Host Kathryn Fox is joined by Professor Stephen Cordner, who is one of Australia's most respected forensic experts. In 2021, Stephen was one of 90 eminent scientists who signed a groundbreaking petition calling for the immediate pardon and release of Kathleen Folbigg.

Understand the forensics behind Kathleen's final and successful bid for freedom, and unpack why her case was such a gross miscarriage of justice in the first place. 

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Red Nose provides specialised bereavement support free of charge to any person affected by the sudden and unexpected death of a baby or child during pregnancy, birth, infancy or childhood.

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A man brandishing two shotguns brought one of Adelaide's busiest streets to a standstill, with former Chief Superintendent Mick Symons caught in the crossfire.

in this episode, understand Mick Symons' illustrious policing career, from his time in the high-stakes Armed Offenders Apprehension Group to leading gripping homicide investigations, including the tragic case of Samantha O'Reilly. In this discussion with Brent Sanders, Mick delves into the evolution of policing techniques and technology, contrasting the gritty realities of the 70s and 80s with modern-day investigative methods. Explore the intricate relationship between law enforcement and the media, and learn how police leverage this dynamic to their advantage.

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How do forensic investigators decipher the scene of a violent car crash? Why is the filament in a brake light so important? And what evidence can lead investigators down the wrong path?

Dr Raphael Grzebieta is an expert in car crash analysis, and has worked for decades in the field. His goal is to bring road safety to the fore of transport conversations, and refuses to acknowledge car crashes as accidents, claiming there is always a reason. 

Join host Kathryn Fox as she unpacks the work of Raphael, and uncovers just how he and other investigators come to their forensic conclusions. 

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Countless victims over a 20 year period, only uncovered thanks to the bravery of the victim-survivors who came forward and told their story. In the mid 1990s, Detective Troy Grant received a report from two men who had been sexually abused by Paedophile Priest Vincent Ryan. What followed was an investigation that uncovered decades of horrific and ongoing abuse within the Catholic Church. 

Join Brent Sanders as he unpacks this investigation with Former Police Minister Troy Grant, as he walks us through the process of handling an investigation like this and what it means to the victim survivors. 

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A long standing theory, but one ballistics supports, at least in the mind of some of those who worked the case, is that Ivan Milat didn't act alone and that there were multiple shooters at several of his crime scenes. 

Host Kathryn Fox sits down with one of Australia's most respected forensic experts, Gerard Dutton to understand why some think there was more than one shooter, and how specific ballistic evidence supports this. 

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Known for its violent, unpredictable atmosphere, and for being a home to Sydney's organised crime kingpins. The Cross is an intense place to be for anyone, especially a cop. 

Brett Stevens is a former NSW Police Officer who spent years in the heart of Sydney's inner city, and took on cases that still affect him now, almost 20 years later. Join host Brent Sanders as he unpacks Brett's life in the force, and seeks to understand how things are different now that he's left the force. 

This episode contains references to suicide, violence against women and sexual assault. For support, contact 1800 RESPECT on 1800 737 732, or dial Lifeline on 13 11 14. 

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Forensic data and pattern recognition tell us a lot, but how does it help in the fight against domestic violence? And how are some data points more important than others? 

Dr Lyndal Bugeja is the research lead of the Violence Investigation Research and Training Unit at Monash University, and is an expert in interpreting forensic data sets to gain an understanding as to how people are dying/being killed and what can be done to stop it. 

Lyndal sits down with host Kathryn Fox to explain how a tragic case in the late 90s proved one of her hypothesis false, but also changed the way she went about research and data recognition. 

This episode contains references to violence against women and children. If you or someone you know needs help, dial 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732). If you're in Australia, and you're in immediate danger, dial 000. 

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A hefty bribe landed in the hands of a supposedly crooked cop, courtesy of a heroin kingpin's brother. Little did the briber know, this cop was Michael Kennedy, a former detective with an unwavering moral compass.

Michael spent over two decades with the NSW Police, working in the Major Crime Squad, Bureau of Crime Intelligence, and the NSW State Crime Commission. In this episode with Brent Sanders, Michael reflects on his unusual path to policing, which meant he could form and maintain relationships with career criminals, uncovering dark secrets involving international drug trading and political corruption.

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When a merciless serial killer terrorised the women of Manchester with a spate of brutal attacks, police and forensics were left stumped. Now, almost 50 years later, forensics has learned, and built more advanced technologies that could've helped catch the killer sooner, and saved more lives. 

To understand how forensics has learned from this case, and to unpack the current strategies being employed to catch criminals and save lives, host Kathryn Fox sits down with expert Dr Marie Morelato. 

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Two cousins, both wives to the same man, found dead under mysterious circumstances. Was this the world's unluckiest husband, or a serial wife killer?

Former detective Peter Seymour has dedicated over two decades of his life to the people of Western Sydney, serving in the NSW Police as both a detective and police prosecutor. 

In this episode, Brent Sanders talks to Peter about the shockingly bizarre investigation of Thomas Keir, and the life-altering case that pushed Peter to his limits, prompting him to make a critical decision that changed the course of his career.

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One of Australia's greatest ever miscarriages of justice. For decades, The Crown and much of the Australian public called for Lindy Chamberlain to be gaoled. Then, when she was, it was only until a chance discovery of new evidence was she released. 

Uncover the failings of forensics in one of Australia's most infamous criminal matters with expert Mackenzie de la Hunty. Hear as she walks host Kathryn Fox through the case, and gives intricate detail into what was involved in the forensics of the case and how things would be different today. 

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Working in child protection takes you to the darkest corners of humanity. Former detective Jack Roney, devoted over a decade to Queensland Police's Child Protection Unit, where he not only tackled some of the most heinous offences in the Crimes Act, but also took on the role of guardian for children who had witnessed unimaginable horrors, including homicide.

In this discussion with Brent Sanders, Jack shares the harrowing story of two parents who were murdered in front of their seven children. Hear about the complexities of working in this field, the emotional toll it takes on an officer, and the nuanced challenges of dealing with minors in the aftermath of such traumatic events.

This episode has descriptions of child sexual abuse and SIDS. For further information and support for issues regarding sexual assault, family, and domestic violence, contact 1800 RESPECT. For further information and support regarding SIDS or the loss of a child, contact the Red Nose Foundation. If you or someone you know is in crisis, call Lifeline on 13 11 14. If it's an emergency, dial 000.

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CCTV has helped capture criminals all across the world, but, catching a killer on camera isn't as clear cut as you might think. In fact, what may seem like the smoking gun in a case, forensic photography is actually a complex and often misunderstood field. 

Glenn Porter is an expert in forensic photography, and has spent decades taking pictures of crime scenes, presenting evidence and explaining how the science of video and photography works in a forensic investigation. 

Join host Kathryn Fox as she unpacks a brutal double murder, and understands how CCTV footage lead to a conviction, but not as immediately as you might suspect. 

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100 tactical operators, and lasting for nearly 40 hours. It's one of Australia's most intense, and high profile siege operations. 

Brett Pennell is a former NSW Police Officer who spent almost 20 years in the force. As part of the Tactical Operations Unit, Brett was involved in high level raids, drug import intercepts and complex, high profile arrests. 

One of those jobs, the Tumut Siege, saw him make a split second decision, that still impacts him to this day. Understand this job and more with host Brent Sanders, as Brett takes us through, in intricate detail, the operationally concepts of the siege. 

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An innocent woman was jailed for 16 years for a murder she did not commit. It wasn't until The Innocence Project became involved that Kirstin Blaise Lobato was finally able to walk free. 

Professor Gail Anderson is Canada’s first-ever full-time forensic entomologist and has been working in the field for nearly 35 years. Her work is dedicated to the study of insects, and what they can reveal about miscarriages of justice. 

In this discussion with host Kathryn Fox, Gail details her involvement in exonerating Blaise Lobato, as well as Steven Truscott, who at age 14 was wrongfully convicted, and sentenced to death for the murder of his classmate. 

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The world's most notorious criminals, unknowingly spilling their secrets on a 'secure' app run by... the cops. That's exactly what happened in Operation Ironside, a covert operation run by the FBI in collaboration with the AFP.

Chris Craner is one of Australia’s most experienced tactical operators. His 30-plus-year career had him at the forefront of some of the country’s most intense and high-stakes investigations, including Ironside and the Lindt Cafe Seige. 

In this episode hosted by Brent Sanders, Chris shares never-before-heard details about the Lindt Cafe Seige, and pulls back the curtain on Ironside. Hear how authorities infiltrated the underbelly of organised crime syndicates, seizing millions in dirty cash, blocking large importations of drugs and intercepting homicide plots.

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Do you know what a forensic sexual assault examination actually entails? What are the processes and how do they affect the outcome of a case?

In this episode, former GP Kathryn Fox speaks to forensic physician Dr Maaike Moller to demystify and debunk the process of reporting a sexual assault. Maaike will walk us through how and when to report an assault, how evidence and DNA is collected from a survivor, and the autonomy of the survivor throughout the whole process. Maaike also shares her expertise on drug-facilitated assault and stealthing. 

Please note, this podcast is not a replacement for professional advice. If you believe you've been assaulted or have had your drink spiked, please contact your local police or seek medical advice from a health professional or local hospital. 

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After an attempted murder left a man brutally injured, one cop decided to change the way police in Queensland respond to violent crimes. 

Queensland Police Sergeant Dustin Osborne is one of the best examples of how proactive policing can not only prevent crime, but save lives. 

He designed and implemented QPol’s groundbreaking Tactical First Aid Program. An initiative which has received global acclaim for its ability to train first responding police in critical medical intervention techniques.

Join host Brent Sanders as he unpacks how Dustin copes with his role as a first responding police officer, and what is next for the future of police medicine. 

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In 2016, a mum of three and a wannabe serial killer became two of Australia's most calculated female murderers.

Dr Kari Pitts is a forensic chemist and trace evidence expert, who has worked on over 300 criminal cases, including homicides, violent assaults, arson, and fatal hit-and-runs.

In this episode, Kari explains how a dyed blue hair and some carpet helped convict Perth's female thrill kill pair. Kari also tells host Kathryn Fox about an initiative she pioneered with the WA Police, that has so far assisted in over 150 sexual assault investigations.

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In March 1991, five violent offenders stole a prison garbage truck and smashed their way through the gates. The pursuit that followed left the country and those watching live on Channel 7 stunned. 

Shaun O'Gorman is one of Queensland's most experienced dog handlers. He worked in the K9 unit for much of his career, and became one of the state's most effective operators. Understand his career with host Brent Sanders, and learn about what goes into training police dogs and the cops that go with them. 

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In 2000, a violent daylight attack on two children rocked the Netherlands. The fatal event set the stage for the wrongful arrest of an innocent man, and would later go on to radically change the Dutch legal system forever. 

In this episode, host Kathryn Fox is joined by Rossanne de Roo, Forensic Advisor to the Dutch Courts, who reveals the shocking details of the bungled police investigation. Hear about the innovative role of forensic advisors, who close the gap between science and the law, to prevent an injustice like that of Schiedam Park from ever occurring again.

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A 40 hour long raid. This was Derrick McManus' day at work in May 1994. Shot 14 times in a mere 5 seconds, and bleeding out on the ground for 3 hours. 

Derrick is a 40-year veteran of the South Australia Police. After joining the force in 1976, he moved up the ranks and was eventually selected for the exclusive STAR Group, an elite tactical special operations unit that took on some of the state's most intense cases. 

In this episode, Derrick tells host, Brent Sanders, how an arrest warrant turned into what would become South Australia's largest siege, with the offender firing over 2500 rounds in 40 hours, and how he managed to survive against all odds.

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How does a single footprint help solve a homicide case? 

Dr Paul Bennett is a forensic podiatrist with a particular talent for identifying patterns left behind in footprints.

His knowledge and expertise have assisted police in decoding evidence from crime scenes across Australia, including several high profile cases. 

Join host Kathyrn Fox as she unpacks the work Paul has undertaken and what it means to him. 

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Ted Kaczynski terrorised the US for almost 20 years. But, what was it like forensically analysing the letters of a twisted genius?

Max Houck is one of the world's most respected and recognised forensic scientists. During his time at the FBI, he worked on some of the world's most infamous forensic investigations, including 9/11, D.B Cooper, and The Unabomber. 

Understand Max's career with host Kathryn Fox, as we dive into these cases and hear the incredible stories of their forensic investigations. 

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Buying, selling, and using drugs. Deceiving almost everyone in your life, and watching the horrors of crime unfold, whilst being unable to do anything about it. 

Former undercover operative Keith Banks is one of Queensland Police’s most decorated officers. He spent over two years undercover, jumping from identity to identity, dicing his way through drug deals and deceiving his way into friendships and high intensity operations. 

Join host Brent Sanders as he unpacks the work of Keith Banks, and understands the traumatic nature of his career and life post policing.

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Unraveling the web of child exploitation deeply impacts everyone involved.

In the second instalment of Brent Sanders’ chat with Narelle Fraser, delve deeper into Narelle’s time as a Detective in the Sex Crimes Squad where she investigated child exploitation.

Learn about Narelle's personal approach when working alongside child victim-survivors, understand the delicate process of delivering earth-shattering news to parents and gain insights into what Narelle learned about the type of offenders who commit these crimes.

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When two men are found dead off a main road in Honolulu, Hawaii, forensics is called to the scene. The state of the bodies is suspicious by nature, but there's something about one of the decedents that makes them almost impossible to identify. 

That's when Dr David Carter is called. David is the Director of Forensic Sciences at the Chaminade University in Hawaii. He's experienced, highly skilled and sought after by police for investigative consulting.

His knowledge is broad, and with host Kathryn Fox, we dig into the world of forensics in the Hawaiian environment, and go granular with understanding how humidity, rain and unique wildlife can affect forensic investigations. 

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A 'low-level' break-in is reluctantly reported to police. Only one female officer seems concerned, and it's because of her 'creep radar.' The result, an offender terrorising his home and neighbourhood for months is finally identified and apprehended. 

That officer was former Detective Narelle Fraser. 

In this candid discussion with host Brent Sanders, hear about Narelle's unique skillset as a female detective, giving her profound insight into the minds and behaviours of perpetrators of sexual crimes, and the advice she has to make sure police take you seriously when you just know something isn't quite right. 

This episode is part one of two with Narelle. 

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In 1994, the lifeless body of a likely murdered man known only as 'The Gentleman' was discovered by German Police floating in the North Sea. For 28 years, the case baffled authorities, until a small team of forensic scientists and students in Perth, Australia, made a bombshell discovery no one saw coming. 

Brendan Chapman is the Director of Murdoch University’s Cold Case Review group and a senior lecturer in forensic science. In this discussion with Kathryn Fox, Brendan takes us inside the international, multi-jurisdictional cold case investigation of The Gentleman, and shares some exciting research labeled the 'Sexome' project that could change the way sex offenders are identified. 

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Yvette Erskine spent over a decade with the Tasmanian Police, serving as a Detective in the Criminal Investigation Branch and as an investigator in one of the state's most lucrative covert task forces. 

Understand the immense pressure she felt in a hostage situation, and how she was able to escape and control it.

Join host Brent Sanders as he unpacks Yvette's career and life after the force.

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When the body of Frances Tizzone was found, the only physical evidence located at the scene was several coarse fibres adhering to the soles of her shoes. 

Distinguished Professor Claude Roux is the Director of the UTS Centre for Forensic Science and President of the International Association of Forensic Sciences. 

In this episode, join host Kathryn Fox, and gain a deeper understanding of how the smallest details can unlock the doors to justice, and how Claude's research, in the middle of a murder trial, led to the conviction of a killer.

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A regular night early in his career ended with him stabbed and bleeding out on a Sydney back street. Now, 25 years on, Jason Semple is one of NSW Police's most decorated and experienced operators. 

Since that infamous night, he's served overseas with some of the country's most highly trained special operations units, where he tackled some of the world's most high risk and intense situations. 

Understand how Jason recovered from that life changing night, where he lost his colleague and friend Peter Forsyth and turned into a ruthless and effective operative. 

Host Brent Sanders sits down with Jason in the Sydney studio, as he walks us through his career and his life post police. 

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One of your family members could be missing, and your DNA could help find them. The AFP is putting out a call to the general public to help solve cold cases that have police them for decades. 

Associate Professor Jodie Ward is the Program Lead of the National DNA Program for Unidentified and Missing Persons at the Australian Federal Police. Funded by the Confiscated Assets Account, the program is a nationwide effort to find, or identify people who are unaccounted for.

Understand it all with host Kathryn Fox, as Jodie takes her through exactly what the program does and how it's helping track down and identify hundreds of missing Australians. 

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The tragedy of a murder investigation never leaves detectives. The scenes, the circumstances, and how confronting it all is remain - it's just a matter of how police deal and cope with what they see, whilst remaining professional.

As a former Victoria Police Homicide Detective, Graeme Simpfendorfer has seen and investigated horrific and tragic cases. He's a 27-year veteran of Victoria Police and was a highly valued member of Vic Pol's prestigious homicide team. 

Understand Graeme's career with host Brent Sanders, and learn what led him to where he is now. 

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The murder of Inge Lotz is one of the most controversial homicide investigations in South Africa's history. A lone fingerprint police claim to have lifted from a DVD case led to the acquittal of the alleged murderer, and resulted in accusations of fabricated evidence.

Dr Scott Chadwick is a fingermark detection expert and leading academic at the UTS Centre for Forensic Science. His research focuses on optimising existing fingermark detection techniques and developing new reagents for revealing fingermarks on the most challenging of surfaces.  

In this episode, join host Kathryn Fox, and hear about the science behind the acquittal of Inge Lotz's accused killer, and the importance of transparent and accurate crime scene investigation.

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One of New Zealand's most experienced police negotiators. From suicide prevention to high-intensity prison hostage situations, Lance Burdett has seen it all. 

Even though he joined the police late, at 35, Lance was able to blaze a path that led him to the top of New Zealand police. After 22 years, he retired as New Zealand's most skilled hostage negotiator, with a 100% record in suicide-related incidents. 

But, it wasn't all smooth sailing for Lance, as he explains to host Brent Sanders. 

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A place in the Blue Mountains where scientists perform tests on human remains, train sniffer dogs and understand what happens to the body in strange circumstances. 

Professor Maiken Ueland is the Deputy Director at the Australian Facility for Taphonomic Experimental Research, or more commonly known as AFTER. She is a leader in the field of forensic taphonomy, where she uses analytical biochemical and spectroscopic techniques to conduct human post-mortem investigations. 

The work she does is fascinating, and host Kathryn Fox is taken through exactly how Maiken is helping solve and prevent crime. 

If you're interested in learning more about how you can donate your remains to AFTER, visit the following resource: 

https://www.uts.edu.au/about/faculty-science/after-facility/body-donation

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A case that beggars belief. How does a detective cope with such a scene, and complete an investigation when having to take it all in?

On September 2nd, 2001, a father murdered his three children. Jackson, six years old, Taylah, 11 months, and Mikaylah, 11 weeks. Still to this day, police don't have a motive. But what did the investigation look like, and how does a detective cope?

Former Detective Carla Tomadini is an example of exceptional police work, and someone who deserves the recognition she's received. Now lecturing at Charles Sturt University, Carla spent nearly two decades in the police before moving into the DPP as a solicitor. 

Her career is immense, and one host Brent Sanders goes through in intricate detail. 

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It's a horror scenario, but more common that you think. If you find remains, what should you do? Situations like this lead to convictions all the time, but if the improper process is followed, evidence can be contaminated and a conviction potentially lost. 

Professor Samantha Rowbotham is a forensic anthropologist at VIFM. She sees bones and human remains on a daily basis, and has an intimate understanding of what they tell us and how they can help solve crimes. 

Understand it all with host Kathryn Fox, as Sam talks specific cases and the broad world of bones and the deceased. 

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In 2016, Dustin La Mont was found not guilty of murder - but, it was a verdict that split New Zealand. After five hours of deliberation, the jury ruled he had acted in self-defence. But, as he left the courtroom, the family of the deceased swore at La Mont, and called him a 'murderer'. 

So why is this case so controversial? 

NZ Police Association President Chris Cahill was working that case, and he was part of the prosecuting team that alleged La Mont had pre-medidated his acts, and deliberately stabbed Whangarei man Nathan Pukeroa and Devaray Junior Cole-Kurvaji. 

Unpack this case and understand why it had such an impact on New Zealand with host Brent Sanders. 

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When the bodies in the barrels were found, Australia was rocked. A murder investigation was underway, and forensics was set to play a huge part. But where to even begin?

Roger Byard had been working in forensics for just two weeks when he got the call. A set of barrels had been found in a bank vault, and he was needed at the scene. The investigation that followed was taxing on Roger, and the community in South Australia, but the work was meaningful and would lead to successful convictions and answers for families. 

Unpack this case and more with host Kathryn Fox, as Roger takes her through his career in forensics and beyond. 

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The murder of Boggabilla woman Theresa Binge is still unsolved, more than 20 years later. Why? 

On 29 June 2003, Theresa's body was found approximately 10 kilometres south of the Queensland border on Boomi Road. Forensic evidence indicates the crime was committed elsewhere before her body was moved. 

Former Detective Greg Lamey will never forget this case, even after having left the force and moved on. This case struck him and gripped him, as it did much of the Queensland and NSW communities. 

Greg is an 18 year veteran of the NSW police force, and is now a crime author under the name Greg James. His book, Bordertown can be found at the link below: 

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44586469-bordertown

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In the 1990s, a deliberately fire in Sydney left 8 people dead. But how was it lit? How can forensics tell, and what information do they need to build a case for conviction? 

Professor Peter Ellis is a veteran of forensics in Australia and has worked across a number of high profile criminal investigations. As well, he's worked overseas, in mass grave sites in Kosovo and mass disasters like the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami. 

In this episode of Crime Insiders: Forensics, understand Peter's career, and the toll this type of work takes as Kathryn Fox takes us through his career and his incredible work. 

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A group of bikies converged on Sydney airport. Within minutes, one was dead and others injured. It was an incident that set off one of the world's most intense and effective gang operations, and lead to a plethora of law changes and high profile convictions. 

Deborah Wallace is a titan of NSW Police. Retiring in 2019 after 36 years in the force, she became known across Australia as 'The Gangbuster', after successful operations in the intense region of Cabramatta, and then the aforementioned Strike-force Raptor. 

The beginning of her career though was much more abstract. She was involved in one of Australia's most horrific cases. The rape and murder of Anita Cobby in 1986. Understand the impact of that case on Deb, and Australia as a whole as Brent Sanders steps through the career of one of Australia's most decorated police officers. 

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15% of the DNA on your hands isn't even yours. So, could you be found guilty of a crime you didn't commit? Just because your DNA was found at the scene?

Professor Georgina Meakin is an expert in DNA transfer. She studies how DNA is moved from people to things, from things to people, and what it means in the context of crime. She exclusively works in defence, and has worked across an incredibly high profile case in the UK, involving a man named 'Flakey Dave'. 

Hear what happened to Flakey Dave, as host Kathryn Fox unpacks Georgina's work, and gets an understanding of how DNA can be used to convict, but also defend. 

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An exclusive, never before heard retelling of how the Newcastle Knights superstar was covertly surveilled and arrested for drug trafficking. It threw his career and sport into disrepute - and, gave an insight into the fascinating culture of organised crime and sport in Australia. 

As well as arresting high profile sports stars, Former NSW Detective Sergeant Craig Semple has tackled some of Australia's most vicious, and high profile outlaw motorcycle gangs. Craig's career takes some incredible turns - including a high profile murder case in Yamba which shocked almost all of the NSW police department, and several high intensity bikie operations which ended Craig's career, and almost his life. 

Some of the stories you’ll hear from Craig today are just extraordinary. His honesty, candour and emotional vulnerability goes beyond what we expect from our guests, it shows the type of character he is now, and was in the force.

Unpack it all with host Brent Sanders, and understand the ups and downs of policing in NSW and Australia as a whole. 

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How were the bodies found? What forensic techniques were used to catch Milat? And what findings helped bring closure to families? 

Professor Chris Griffiths is one of Australia's most experience forensic experts. In his time, he's helped bring closure to families by identifying victims. As well, his work has contributed to the convictions of some of the country's worst serial killers, including Ivan Milat. 

Join host Kathryn Fox as she unpacks Chris' career, and understands the toll this type of work has on him professionally and personally. 

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The psychology of this policing is like no other, and requires a particular set of skills. For Anthony Macklin, it suited his attention to detail and unrelenting work ethic. He was dedicated to his work, and to the force. But, when bureaucracy and the decisions of those above him meant an offender slipped through the net - he had to rethink his career. 

Anthony Macklin is a former Detective Inspector in the NSW Police. He worked tirelessly in the force, and took on several high ranking positions across a number of stations. Now, he works alongside fellow guest Danny Mikati as a private investigator. 

It was a distinct pleasure to have Anthony on the show, the whole Crime Insiders team extends a warm thanks to him for his time. 

Join host Brent Sanders as he unpacks Anthony's career and gets to know the man behind the badge. 

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It started with a bite, and ended in a violent shooting. Forensics employed unique techniques to help crack not only the murder, but the complex circumstances that led to it. 

Richard Bassed is one of Australia's most experienced forensic odontologists. His work is complex and important in solving high profile murders - like that of The Vampire Gigolo - but also, in identifying victims of mass fatalities and mass disasters. 

Unpack his work with host Kathryn Fox, and understand how forensic odontology is helping to solve and prevent crime in Australia. 

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A case that started a manhunt, and ended in tragedy. A quiet town in the Blue Mountains, thrown into chaos by a shooting and the police's effort to track down the offender. 

Alan Leek is a 35 year veteran of the NSW Police. He spent almost his entire career as a detective; investigating high stakes and high profile investigations. For much of his life, violent crime was on his door step, and it was up to him to take it on - whilst balancing, life, family and more.

Join host Brent Sanders as he unpacks Alan's career, and gains an understanding of how he had such a long and successful career in the force. 

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A first hand account of how the GSK case was solved, the science used in Australia to crack similar cases and the ethical complexities that are muddying the waters. 

The case of the Golden State Killer puzzled police and amateur sleuths for decades. Then, in April 2018, a Sacramento man was arrested and charged. How did police find their man, and what led them to him after years of nothing but cold clues and lack of leads?

Genealogy is a complex, and often misunderstood science. But, according to Professor Dennis McNevin, an expert in the field of forensic genetics, it's a technique police are becoming more and more interested in, and something we could see used in Australia very soon. 

Join host Kathryn Fox as she unpacks Dennis' work and career, and dives into cases like the Golden State Killer and the Somerton man. 

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A single incident, can lead police down a path, which if they're not taken off, can lead to horrific consequences.

Beth Docksey had an illustrious career in the force, and should be recognised as one of NSW Police's shining lights. However, it took a surge of immense courage and resilience to get to where she is now. After a critical incident at the Eastwood Shopping Centre in Sydney - her husband Glenn began down a path that not many understood, one which culminated in a horrific incident years later.

The Crime Insiders team would like to extend a sincere thanks to Beth Docksey for giving her time and candour for this interview. Brent and the whole team would like to thank her for her service, and her continued work in bringing awareness to the challenges of mental health in policing. 

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Comedian Eurydice Dixon and student Aya Maasarwe were both victims of horrific crimes. The first responding forensic expert to those scenes was Jo Glengarry. She facilitated the investigation and performed the forensic tasks which contributed to convictions. 

Understand Professor Glengarry's process when being a first responding forensic expert to violent and confronting scenes, and understand the personal and professional toll that these cases had on her. 

Host Kathryn Fox talks to Jo about  and understands the nature of these crimes and how forensic experts respond and what processes go into facilitating a successful conviction.  

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It's more common than you think - a missing persons report is made every 18 minutes in Australia, and over 2,600 people are missing right now. 

Val Smith is a 35 year veteran of Victoria Police and an expert in the elusive field of missing persons. Throughout his time in the force he created a set of rules; engagement techniques that should be used if your loved one is lost or unaccounted for.

After retiring from the force, Val is helping families and police track down those often lost through the system. Through the charity Footsteps in the Wilderness, he investigates cold cases, discarded situations or simply forgotten stories. 

Unpack it all with host Brent Sanders, as he talks to Val about his extensive career and those crucial steps to potentially save someone from going missing. 

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A first hand account of how in a mass shooting, the preservation and storing of bodies is a horrific, but necessary process. It's crucial to ensure no evidence is lost and that they remain in a dignified and respectful state. 

Jodie Leditschke is the Manager of Forensic Technical Services at the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine - essentially meaning that she manages the mortuary. So she's responsible for the storage and maintenance of remains all across the state and country. 

Understand her incredible work, with host Kathryn Fox and hear the first hand account of Jodie's experience at the Broad Arrow Cafe in the aftermath of the Port Arthur Massacre. 

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A never before heard insight into centre of the siege. From communicating with snipers across the scene, to briefing the Prime Minister. But it's not all as it seems. The public was told a different story. 

Danny is a former NSW Police Officer who was a pivotal part of three of Sydney's most high profile criminal investigations. The Bilal Skaf case, also known as the Sydney Gang Rapes saw Danny as part of a search crew - looking for victims and building a case against Skaf and his affiliates. 

The Cronulla Riots, where Danny stood guard at the Lakemba Mosque amid an onslaught of violence; and then the Lindt Cafe Siege, arguably Sydney's most notable hostage situation.  

Danny goes into intense detail, and outlines beat by beat the details and processes of the investigation and the convictions. Unpack Danny's career in the force and the work he's doing now with host Brent Sanders. 

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Digging up a body is rare, and it's a strange and complex process. But why does it happen? And what do forensics learn by doing it?

Dr Jo Dufluo is a privately practicing forensic pathologist. He's worked across a range of forensic fields and has performed thousands of autopsies, examinations and post mortem analyses. Throughout his career, he's undertaken only a few exhumations - which is the process of removing a body from it's grave - but, the ones he has done, have been fascinating. 

Understand the process of Jo's work with host Kathryn Fox, and learn how the work of forensic experts around Australia and the world are helping solve crime. 

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Sandra Nicholson was at the heart of chaos. Whilst Melbourne was under siege during the Gangland Wars, and bushfires wreaked havoc across Victoria, those at the top of Vic Pol were forced to front the media and take responsibility for the intensity surrounding the city.

Sandra Nicholson was Assistant Commissioner at Victoria Police for 5 years, and steered the ship with Commissioner Christine Nixon. Sandra joined the service in 1975, and rose through the ranks until her retirement almost 40 years later. 

Brent Sanders chats with Sandra as she reflects on her career, and the high stakes work that took her from Social Service in NSW, to the second highest ranking female officer in the history of Victoria Police. 

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A body found wrapped in a carpet, and a species of fly that verified an alibi. The bugs and insects that end up on bodies contribute to a lot more than just decomposition, they can act as evidence for conviction or help prove innocence of a suspect. 

Dr Paola Magni is a forensic entomologist is considered the global face of the specialist forensic science that uses insects and other small creatures to help solve murders, suspicious deaths and cold cases.

Unpack the incredible work of Paola with host Kathryn Fox, and understand the intricate nitty gritty details of bugs, insects and dead bodies. 

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What toll does it take on a detective to investigate a missing persons case for 40 years? What do you tell the family? When do you stop looking, if ever? 

David Plumpton is an old school detective. A Tasmanian local, he joined the force because he wanted to make a difference. In his 40+ year career, he did much more than that. Unpack his career with host Brent Sanders, and hear how a double murder in Hobart, changed his career forever and why the case of Lucille Butterworth still stays with him, even now. 

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